The Kristian Harloff Show - GAME CHANGER?! New UFO Whistleblowers with Firsthand knowledge will come before congress!!
Episode Date: January 30, 2024Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow Welcome back to UAP Tuesday on The Big Thing. Jeremy Corbell recently released the Jellyfish UFO video that showed a UAP over Iraq base in 201...7. Recently the co-host of the Weaponized Podcast claims that more UFO whistleblowers will be coming before congress to give their testimony of first hand knowledge of the reverse engineer programs that have been claimed by David Grusch and others. How will this change the public perception if at all? Last week we discussed former AARO head Sean Kirkpatrick and the article he released saiying that much of what is said about UAP's are being fantasized by those who want it to be true. A new report that has been released shows that the AARO are not equipped to handle whatever the UAP phenomenon is. Is this why Kirkpatrick released what he did? The Daily Mail writes a sensationalized headline about this, is this just adding to the stigma. Finally we check out some footage and give our thoughts on what we think is real or fake. Join Kristian Harloff and Mark Reilly on another episode of UAP Tuesday on The Big Thing! #uap #ufo #ufos #whistleblowers #government #conspiracy #politics #hearing #phenomenon OUR SPONSORS: AG1: http://www.drinkAG1.com/BigThing NUTRAFOL: Find out why over 4,500 healthcare professionals and hair stylists recommend Nutrafol for healthier hair. Http://www.Nutrafol.com/ men and enter promo code BIGTHING MAGIC SPOON Go to http://www.magicspoon.com/BIGTHING to grab a variety pack and try it today! And be sure to use our promo code BIGTHING at checkout to save five dollars off your order! BLUE CHEW: BlueChew wants to help you have better sex! Discover your options at http://www.BlueChew.com
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What's going on, everybody?
Welcome back to the big thing.
It is UAP Tuesday.
Thank you guys for joining us here on the show.
A lot to talk about.
Again, Jeremy Carbell was on a show,
and he said that there are more whistleblowers coming forward.
There are going to be more coming forward to Congress.
There are going to be more this time with first-hand knowledge.
That is what people have been looking for.
The question, obviously, in the conversation in this show is going to be when, where, how.
We'll talk about all of that.
There's other footage that we saw.
There's some footage that we have seen.
It's a little older, but I'm just curious about what it is in general.
Some stuff you could be, we always look at certain things.
Is it actually something that was floating around in the sky?
Was it a balloon?
Was it a CGI?
What was it?
We'll look at one of those for sure.
Shankar Patrick last week we talked about it.
That's been the big story for a lot of different places right now saying that, well, he came out and said it's just all this stuff is human stuff.
So that's what it is because he said it and that's what they,
told us and we believe it. It's what CNN says. CNN says, well, Sean Carpatrick says it,
so you guys are making stuff up. So we'll discuss that because there was another report that came
out that kind of negated what Carpatrick was saying, what he was going to say, and it looked
like that that report came out was going to come out, and that's why he released what he did.
So we'll get into that. We'll discuss that for sure, because there's a lot. And that'll be
the kind of the topic, the most of the topics that we talk about today are going to be those
very ones. Thank you for joining us here today. I have to thank everybody who tunes in every
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It helps the show. It helps the conversation. And it helps us continue. We're starting to get
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into the subject and it's trying to just basically find out answers and we're trying to be the
voice of the regular folk going what the hell is going on out there and to instead of the
conversation when you have it because I'm sure people who are watching this right now you bring
this up at dinner you bring this up somewhere and people still look at you like you're what the
hell are you talking about? So we're just asking questions. And everybody should be asking questions
because nobody on the big outlets are really covering it, on the major outlets on television,
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subscribe. We're on Apple Podcasts. We're on Spotify. We're on all of that. So it's me and Mark Riley
here today. It's UAP Tuesday. Let's do it. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. It is indeed
UAP Tuesday here on the big thing.
It's myself, Christian Harloff, and, as always, Mark Yodius Riley.
Happy to be here, as always, Mr. Harloff.
Happy to have you here, Mr. Riley.
So we got some stuff to talk about as always.
Yeah.
It's good to see so many people tune in on Tuesdays to really be part of the conversation,
asking the questions.
I know I'm sure you've been looking at a lot of the comments and things that are coming in,
and people are very curious, and people are starting to get more.
what's the word more
knowledgeable
about this stuff
and I think it's good
we're still in that spot
though you know
I even had this conversation
with a buddy of mine
I think I said it last week
but I said it again
I was talking my friend from home
and he's like I noticed you've been doing
this stuff on Tuesday
he's like you know
you don't really believe in that stuff do you
I'm like yeah
and if you paid attention
to what's going on the news
you know you and when I say believe
in that stuff I'm just talking about
like just that there are things
in the sky there's stuff out there
yeah and it's like I said
dude if you if you
if you paid attention to the actual,
I said,
I asked him about the,
if he knew about Schumer and rounds,
he had no clue.
Nope.
I asked him if he,
if he knew about,
about the hearings,
I kind of heard about that.
It's like,
it's insane that people are like,
I kind of heard about that.
He's like,
I did see the jellyfish thing.
And he goes,
he goes,
I'll be,
no, you know what?
That's not true.
He actually said that to me
after the initial conversation
that we had with him.
Oh, really?
So to be fair to him, he went back and he said,
he said, look, I looked at that jellyfish thing.
He goes, I don't know how to explain that.
And I saw somebody on the comments last week goes,
yeah, it was a smudge.
Cut it out.
The Pentagon is not going to.
It's not a smudge.
It's a smudge.
It's a smudge.
It's a smudge.
If it was a smudge on a camera.
If it was like a drone, okay, maybe it's a drone.
Maybe it's a weird drone that we don't know what is,
and they don't want to let, you know what the secrets are.
I'll give you that.
Yeah.
Smudge, cut it out.
Yeah.
And listening to Weaponize with Corbell and Knapp, I mean, they really make a good case.
They do.
And I listen to it.
And, you know, we've been back and forth on this, on this show.
I mean, you're an internal struggle with this.
It really is.
I go, you're right, guys.
I listen to Corbella and app.
I go, God, you're right.
This is huge.
What is this?
And then I'll watch some, you know, military guy that was on the base.
And he's like, look, they're balloons.
We've been there.
We've done this.
It's, I go back and forth.
Like I said, this is where I'm landing.
We don't know what the hell it is.
Yeah, well, that's why it goes back to what you and I have been saying since the day we started this podcast.
And that's, it's just going to need, it's just going to need something else.
It's going to need something else to say, you cannot argue with what that is.
Right.
And that, and that footage that is missing, you know, where it comes in the water and out of the water and takes off.
We need that.
And they believe it's out there.
They, you know, they address that.
Yeah, what do they say?
Well, they say it's, hopefully we can.
get that footage, but that is the sourcing
that they have, and they put it through
the ringer on what they're
going to share. And they even
recorded parts of their
episode with the jellyfish
video, didn't release it until
they had all their, you know,
cross their teas and dot their eyes.
And that's admirable.
So, and I have to, when you say the ringer,
the website, they're putting stuff on the ring?
No, no, sorry, that's just the
terminology, as the saying goes.
Yeah, I've gone through the ringer. I didn't know if they were actually
going to put stuff on the ring. Right, right, right. No, they, they vet it. They vet this stuff.
And, you know, I have since changed my idea that it's balloons because it, it's, it's, it moves weird.
And I, and, and so it is the definition of a UAP. It is, could be a drone. It could be a drone.
A really weird drone. It could be something. And that's, it kind of goes to the big picture here of what we're
talking about. We're not saying that there are aliens from Mars, you know, every time. They could be drones.
They could be, it's the tech, it could be this crazy tech that is classified information or tech that's from China or Russia or whoever and are the enemies of the United States and are we at risk as just civilians.
And that is what we want to know.
I happen to believe there's even a bigger explanation and bigger implications on what this changing my worldview, all that kind of stuff.
We just want some answers.
We just want the transparency.
That is the theme always.
And it is, especially, you mentioned Corbella.
Well, this is the kind of main topic that we're going to be talking about today is that
right before we went on the air, Mark and I were talking about how when there is another hearing
and there should be one, I mean, it seems like when they came out of that skiff,
it seemed like everybody was on the same page that there will be another hearing.
The question is, will that hearing be in February?
Will it be in March?
Will it be the end of the year?
Whenever it will be.
Ryle and I have also discussed that we will be doing a kind of,
live watch along with it. We hope you guys will join us for trying to do a live one and watch
it whenever it is out. And the reason I bring that up is because of what Jeremy Corbell said on
this show. And I'm going to play it in a second is that there are more whistleblowers. You have to.
I mean, because even Burchett was talking about there, they have people lined up that are going
to do the same kind of wow impact that that Grush had, right? Because you got to have more
than just Grush. They have Grush come back and say,
well, this is what I heard from somebody.
And I say this, I think Grush is an American hero.
I think Grush is.
But if you have them keep coming, well, I heard this, and I interviewed this person,
and they said this, you're going to get the same skeptics going.
Okay, he heard it from somebody who heard it from a somebody who heard it from a somebody.
What does that mean?
As opposed to someone who goes, no, I was working on these things.
We saw this.
We did that in front of Congress.
Because there are people who are talking about a podcast.
You got Lakatsky, who I showed the wrong picture of last week,
who said that they breached the Hull.
of the ship. Get that guy in front. And that's what Pavel last week said that that's what they
probably would try to do is get him. Good. Get that guy in front of Congress to say,
have them say it under oath. Yeah. And have people then report on that. The mean outlets will still
not report on it, but still. Right. Well, that's what we really need. That's, that's what a lot of the
people that are skeptics and rightly so, you know, you're not going to really move the needle until,
I mean, we're going to move the needle.
Grush moved the needle, I feel.
More so than it was in the last like five years, for sure.
Absolutely. Even just 60 years.
But once that needle moves just a smidge,
and then the people come out of the woodworks
and they're like, and the questions and the debunkers
and all those different things,
you need to get those firsthand people.
And so that that needle moves even more.
Right.
And that's what we're talking about here.
Yeah. And you're going to get, and here's the other thing
I say about Kirkpatrick, because they've asked them,
I think they've asked them,
and you guys can correct me in the comments
or I'm wrong, but from what I've seen,
why isn't he testified?
If this is all this stuff that he's putting it on LinkedIn
and he's writing little articles,
well, then testify and say that,
testify in front of the next hearing
and testify and say no, we have no evidence whatsoever.
We've done, testify, let's be,
I think it's healthy to have someone
in that hearing also that's going,
no, what they're also saying here
is not factual, it's this,
because they don't want to be called out
by the people that are in the room.
He doesn't want to be called out
by the people in the room.
Right.
That should tell you something.
Now, if he winds up, now I'll eat my shoe, if he winds up going over there and testifying,
but he should.
He was the head of the AARO.
He should.
He absolutely should.
And, you know, it's so frustrating to see, like, you know, we were talking off air,
a CNN opinion piece that he was at the center of basically saying, look, yeah, there's
really nothing to see here.
There are people that want to believe this stuff and they're in the Senate and they're in Congress.
And, you know, the Pentagon said, I mean, it's just human from the way, all the way down.
And it's like, that's, that's it.
That's the opinion piece is that there's nothing to see here, move along.
I find that really hard.
And why does Chuck Schumer want to believe it?
Right.
During an election year.
Right.
And he brings up, he brought up Harry Reid, who, you know, passed away years ago, but that, you know, he's like, well, he wants to, you know, believe that they're angels and that there's some kind of higher purpose.
It's a religious angle to it.
And, you know, you just have true believers that are within Congress and everything.
And I said, it's so hard to hear that and listen to that.
And without any proof, without any, like, if you back it up with documents from the Pentagon saying, this is what it is, it's human, it's human, it's human, nothing to see here.
Great.
That's the whole point.
There's no proof on that.
It's like, look, okay, didn't want to let this know because it's national security, but the conversation,
has been going on long enough,
and it's been going on where it's got to be,
it's, we have to be rational here.
Here is the deal.
This is craft that we've been working on.
We have higher technology that we've been working on
for years.
It's what it is.
We cannot release exactly what it is,
but we want to get the information out there,
or it's technology we recovered from other governments.
We're not gonna release which governments that are,
but we have that, this is the proof, this is it.
And put that proof out there.
In the same way that we're saying,
you need the proof of the freaking ship landed
on the White House lawn in order
for people to say, oh, it's from another dimension,
it's from another planet.
The same thing should be said for, okay, fine.
Like, you can't just have some guy who has been,
you know, criticized for being a government or pawn
or is in Carpatrick or a guy who's Lockheed Martin,
whatever it might be, a guy who's playing,
he's a quarterback for the other team.
Yeah, it works both ways, I would say.
It's just as we want proof, and, you know, if Rush comes out and says, yes, this exists because somebody told me.
Right.
Right.
And then Kirkpatrick says, this doesn't exist because the Pentagon told me.
But then there's no backing up on any of it.
So it does work both ways.
And I understand that.
Yes.
And so, again, we're just asking for proof or transparency.
On anything?
Just on anything.
if it is just Russian, Chinese, American technology that we're testing out and it's flying in the skies,
well, why are there so many close calls, according to some people in the military, like Graves,
who says this thing flew like 30 feet from us or one of his people in his command?
Like, that's scary to consider, you know?
What is it?
What is it?
So, and speaking of the firsthand knowledge, speaking of the witnesses that could
come across. Here is the interview with Jeremy Corbelle that I want to play, and then we'll
talk about it after we watch it. Here it is. Now, looking ahead to the rest of the year,
what developments do you predict in the field of UAP disclosures? Well, look, man, I don't have a crystal
ball. I cannot predict the future. I don't even know when my alarm clock's going to go off,
even when I said it. But what I can say for sure is that people have been encouraged. They have
come forward to me and to George Knapp. We are getting them in front of Congress. We are getting
them in front of the Senate Intelligence Committee. And that information, some of it, will be going
public. So my prediction for 2024 is what I know is going to happen. More people are coming forward
with firsthand direct knowledge of these government programs, reverse engineering UFOs.
Are there any revelations, Jeremy, that you think the public should be prepared for in
2024? Yeah. If you don't know by now, then it's time to catch up. And if you don't catch up,
you're going to be left behind.
This is not something that should be shrouded in secrecy.
This is not something that should be overlaid with stigma.
This is a real issue,
and people are on a daily basis
encountering UAP or UFOs in our military
and in other militaries around the world.
Okay, so with that,
the thing that stands out to me
is that he's talking mostly about the programs,
the reverse engineer programs.
That seems what I feel is going to be the main focus
of this next hearing.
It's going to be these reverse.
engineer programs that someone who had direct knowledge, and he seems to say a few of them, right?
So let's say there's two or three that have this exact information that worked on the programs,
know how they got the craft in general, whatever it might be. That information alone will be something
that people will be like, whoa, they got it from here, they found it here, this is where they
were keeping it, this is what they worked on, this is what the intent of the program is. That is a lot
that if you don't cover that in the mainstream media,
your network should be shut down.
If that is indeed the case,
do you think that this is what it is,
or is it going to be something?
Maybe they have somebody who says,
oh, yeah, yeah, I worked on it once.
I mean, it's the idea of reverse engineering
is in itself one of the things we're talking about.
That's scary, too, for me at least.
The idea that there is technology that exists
that is so incredibly advanced.
advanced and they're like, whether it's Lockheed or Boeing or whatever, whatever company's doing this work is like, ah, nothing to see here. That's one thing.
Right. Okay. Do I think they're going to, I think it should be a focus. I mean, it's all under the same kind of banner for me, which is like, you know, what is it? Who's working on it? Are they flying around in the skies now? Because I like to take a plane every once in a while. That scares me to think that you're like testing something.
that might endanger civilians, but whether or not that becomes the central focus of it,
I mean, I hope so.
I hope that we get just broken record here, transparency.
Right.
I just hope we get answers.
Doesn't have to be.
But they can't do a hearing if there's, they can't just do another hearing that is like,
oh yeah, there might be crap.
We might have recovered something.
It's got to be significant.
It's got to be significant.
And we have to know what exactly is out there.
and if you don't know, say it,
and have whatever supporting documents you can bring
or supporting witnesses that can say,
well, I saw this, we don't know what it is.
That would give us some kind of answer, maybe.
But reverse engineering is a scary thing to consider
if it is, let's say, the what if possibilities.
Let's call it something that they don't know what it is.
That Grush has said, oh, we have,
there was one in Italy.
When he was on Rogan, he was like,
there was something that crashed in Italy.
In the 30s.
In the 30s or 40s.
I think it was even the 40s.
No, it was the 30s?
It was like 1933.
It's before the Roswell one.
My God.
Something like that.
So the idea of then transporting whatever that is and then reverse engineering that.
That's one thing.
Again, we're not saying, you know, it's alien and we don't know where it came from.
But now we have ships that can fly from San Francisco to New York in three seconds.
It's like, oh, that's a lot to hand.
So why can't we just, I don't know, why, it's if these big companies, Boeing, Lockheed, whatever, are working on advanced technology, you know, show your hand a bit.
I know that you might want to protect a lot of things.
I was going to say, wouldn't the argument against that be, well, why are we going to show our hand when, because we in the States are showing our hand, but Russia's not showing their hand, and China's not showing their hand.
Japan's not showing, no one's showing there.
Legitimate, yeah, that is a legitimate point
because we want to protect our secrets,
and I get that, because we don't want, you know,
whoever it may be to, you know, steal the technology
if that's what it is.
Or haven't, or what Grush said on, I think it was on Rogan,
is that what happens if inside, you know,
one of the, someone slips and says something
that they were working on or they were trying to do that,
in the same way when you look like Oppenheimer.
You know, like there's that one thing
when the Germans were working on how to do the science,
they were doing it wrong,
and then Oppenheimer went,
that they were trying to do it.
that. Yeah. But reverse that and do that instead. Right. And that comes up and they go, oh,
they were trying to do that. Wait a minute. We've been doing that too. Do that instead.
I think that's the strongest argument for not sharing things because I would think that there are
military people out there that have either served or, you know, know what national security and what
it takes to protect us. Yeah. Being like, do not say shit. We do not want others to just
like rush is like we can uh you know how many crashes were there he said multiple he said multiple
he didn't want to give a number because then he said well there could be rush and rushes
though too he said he said he just said ships because there's a theory that these things
because there's a question i think that um i even um paula shoot it was it was it was uh rogan's
head on paula oh i'm not grabbing yeah i'm sorry doctor it was a thing about consciousness
and all these different things and they talked about it's fascinating how rogan was
there's a lot of ships that crash she's like well if you believe that she's because she's part of
the Gary Nolan crew who recovered bits of the crash stuff.
And Rogan asked her, like, well, that's a lot of crash ships.
These things are so advanced, why they're crashing?
She's like, I have a theory that a lot of people have these theory that they're not crashing,
that they're almost like gifts.
Yeah, I don't know.
That's interesting.
What I'm saying is like Grush not wanting to confirm or deny how many, because then the
Russians could be maybe listening and go, if he says, yeah, there were 12.
And then the Russians like, wait a minute, we only had nine.
Right.
So send some more people out to get the information of where the rest of those are, the other four or five or whatever the discrepancy is.
And so I get protecting that.
I mean, I get more than anything, even saying this out loud on the show right now, just how important it is to protect us as a nation and the government making sure that it's like, you don't want to know these things because of people that are, you know, going to listen and try to harm.
us using our own technology maybe but it is a fine line when these things and you said it at the
top of the show like something is flying around out there there are a number of people that have
seen it you're me included i've seen something i've said it many times here so what the hell is that then
and why aren't we like why aren't we aware of certain things where i see something in michigan in
the middle of the night it moves just like the the go fast video
It moves just like the tick-tac.
Right.
Okay, that's a drone.
That's the United States.
And again, I just answered my own question, I think.
We can't exactly say that if we want to protect these secrets.
But if it's like, that is military testing,
and that's what kind of they've fallen under everything.
Ah, it's a military thing.
It's a balloon.
Don't worry.
Move on.
But one of the things, though, with all of that is,
basically, because I kind of post that question to you,
is like, you've got to be careful on what you say as far as national security.
But is there something to be said about, look, here's the deal.
And this is, I think, what Schumer was trying to get to is, here's the deal.
We have recovered this.
We believe it is this, whatever this might be.
We believe all of this.
We have this, this, and this, and we've been working on this.
We cannot go into details on what this is for matters of national security.
but to let you know as not only people of the United States, but people of the world,
we have these things and we're working on these things and this answers this particular question.
Now we cannot give you any more than that because there are other things and there are other places that are working on these things
that we don't know how they're going to be used for.
We don't know what the...
Now, yes, will that open up a major can of worms and a major investigation?
It will.
but what will continue to happen is if people keep because I do believe though there are people on the side even the side of it because it's like in any in any game that you play in when I say games is it spy games or all these things yeah any of these games there's always that person who you think that they're on your team but then they're on the other team I believe that there's somebody inside of the team of the Lockheed Martin all those people that's it's time it's time it's time
And they go to work and they go,
Hey, you know, zip, right, zip, zip it up.
Yeah, zip it up, zip it up.
Listen, this is coming, doing this, doing that.
I think they got moles.
I think, I mean, there's no, I've got no, I've got no, I've got no, there's, I'm not
Jeremy Corbell.
I don't have any of that.
Yeah, no, but we're two regular guys asking questions.
That's what this show is all about.
Yeah.
We're just the regular people out there that are looking into the skies,
right, whether we're having our own experience or watching the videos that
do leak or do come out or do are released like, you know, the government has done with the websites that's like, these are officially leaked, not leaked, official things that we don't know what these things are.
And I think you answered my question because I was thinking about this. If they were to come out and say, all right, we can tell you this. It is not extraterrestrial in origin. But we know what they are. We can't say anything more than that. Is that an answer?
It's an answer, but I don't think it's going to be an answer.
It's not a great one.
Because people are going to go, well, wait a minute, what do you mean you can't tell us what it is?
Tell us what it is.
Because let's say it's an advanced drone or something that is going to revolutionize the travel industry as we know it.
Okay.
I would say to you, well, fine.
Then behind a skip or behind it, or whatever it is to, show the proof to our representatives.
There you go.
Let those representatives come out and go, okay, we saw concrete proof.
That's exactly what this stuff is.
All of the different reports from 1940 until last week yesterday.
Yeah.
They're all this.
Then I think you'd have to go, all right, I don't know, maybe.
That's when you have your faith in your elected officials, hopefully, right?
If Burchett comes out out of nowhere and starts saying, look, we saw stuff that changed my opinion on this,
that we thought that it was this particular thing.
and it is now this
and I, without a shadow of a doubt,
think that this is this,
you at least have to go, huh,
but the chances of that happening are slim to none.
And that's what we're talking about.
Right.
That's all, and I get, in my proposed question,
it is so that they are protecting their,
whether it's an investment,
protecting the technology that maybe they created,
so that it will advance
the betterment of,
our United States civilians and whatnot.
I get that.
But that's not what they're doing.
They're protecting their ass.
They are.
That's what they're protecting.
And that's what's so frustrating is like I can pose that question.
And I can poke holes in it too because you're like, well, you know.
But Bershett is a great, I think, example of if he came out and said, look, okay.
I'm changed.
I tend to believe him because he's such a straight shooter.
Right.
Because that's just an instinctual thing for me is the idea that he comes out and he
says it like it is and I like the way he says it you know it's just he's just he's a straight
shooter it seems like so there's certain and even grush you know there are credible people out there
that do this and then the people like Kirkpatrick there's something off about what he is saying
and that's instinctive that's just my gut feeling now now look the flip side of that is that the
the 180 type of podcast from us would be saying the same thing about burschette on the opposite they
I don't know, Bershette always seems like he's just like one of these guys that wants to believe in this.
But Carpatrick, to me, seems like the straight shooter.
So there is that particular side of it that's going to see it that way, but there's got to be something.
And that's why I think these hearings.
And so when to bring up Jeremy Corbell, for those people who listen to the other stuff on this channel, the movie news, you'll know the name Jeff Snyder, who's just been breaking every news story.
Jeremy Corbell is essentially the Jeff Snyder of the UFO community.
Right.
Yeah.
And so when it comes to that, he may sit in front row at the hearing.
with Knapp, and so he's the one who released this jellyfish video.
So I tend to take his idea or notion that there's going to be more whistleblowers coming forward
at these hearings.
And I haven't listened to that full interview, but I wondered, and I would have asked
them this.
And by the way, I've reached out to Jeremy Corbell.
I've tried to get him on this show.
If you guys tag him, let them know.
I think the people inside of this community, whether it's a German Corbell, James Fox,
you know, Gary Nolan, any of them.
The reason why I believe that they should be on a show like this
is because you're not just talking to the same people
that have been following this community for years.
You're talking to people that were trying to open eyes to,
or at least ask questions to.
So that's why I reached out to Jeremy Carbell.
I haven't gotten a response, and that's fine.
I understand he's super busy too,
and he's doing the major outlets, and I get it.
But the reason why I'd like to have him on,
because I would have asked him the question of whether or not
we're going to have, like when he thinks that next hearing is going to be. And they very well
might have asked him that question. I didn't hear the whole interview. Yeah. But that's my question.
When is it? Because it needs to happen sooner than later if you're going to kind of move it.
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All right, let's move on, Riley.
I want to talk about this.
All right, this is from Politico.
Uncoordinated, internal watchdog
wraps the Pentagon's UFO tracking effort.
The Defense Department's effort to identify UFOs
is uncoordinated and could have overlooked threats
to the United States,
according to an unclassified version
of a report from the Pentagon's internal watchdog
released Thursday.
In the report, originally released last August
but containing classified sections,
the DOD's Inspector General,
reviewed the department's policies and procedures for detecting, reporting, and analyzing UFO
reports that have flooded the departments in recent years. After an investigation, the IAG found
the Defense Department doesn't have a coordinate approach, has developed varying processes for
collecting and analyzing UFO reports, and has largely excluded regional military commands which are
responsible for detecting and deterring threats against the United States and developing
policies. We determined that the DOD has no overreaching UAP policy, and as a result, it lacks
assurance that national security and flight safety threats to the United States from UAP has
been identified and mitigated, the report said, using the acronym for the unidentified anomalous
phenomena, which is how the government refers to UFOs. The UFO flared up last year after a highly
anticipated House hearing in which lawmakers bashed the Pentagon's lack of
transparency and how it was handling reports.
The unclassified IG report was released given the significant public interest,
according to a press release.
According to the report, DOD officials, who spoke with the IG, said they had been waiting
for comprehensive guidance from leaders before developing their own strategies.
The Inspector General found the Pentagon's response to UFO incidents is uncoordinated and
concentrated within each military department.
The report reads, the Defense Department has attempted to address concerns for those who
have reported UFO sightings on bailing.
a secure form in October that service members and government employees can use to report
sightings of the phenomenon to a government office. In the report, DOD offices largely agreed with
or addressed recommendations from the Inspector General. So this seems to me this report was going to come
out, it looks like, before the Kirkpatrick stuff, right? And it seems like, yeah, they're not,
they're really handling it. They don't know. I mean, what do you make of this?
Well, it just, it was, I was thinking about, like, when you hear something and, you hear something,
And you call somebody else and you tell them that.
And then that person calls somebody else.
And then before you know it, it's a game of telephone.
And then, well, this person didn't tell me that.
Basically, it's a mess.
Right.
It's a mess that they don't know who's doing what, who's seen what.
And so because of this internal political thing here, we got going here, we don't know who's scratching our back or grabbing our ass, you know?
Right.
And that's what it seems like to me is that everybody, it's uncoordinated.
And it reminds me of stuff where in Oppenheimer,
the development of the atomic bomb,
we had husbands and wives working on different things
that had no idea what the other was doing,
and they couldn't say anything.
Well, it's this secrecy problem.
It's absolutely a secrecy problem.
It's because we can't let that department know about this,
and we can't let this know about that.
So there's no coordination between it,
because they're trying, and this is why
when you hear people say this all the time,
I don't trust that the government
would be able to keep this quiet.
I don't, they're not.
Clearly, that's why you got jellyfish videos floating around.
Right. That's why you have all these things, and that's why you have these, they're trying
so hard, keep that away from that person, keep that there, don't let that person say this,
because what, God forbid, we have another David Grush, we have this, we have that, don't
tell a person that, and then you get this of just, like, this kind of mess of, like, well,
they don't know how to, they're not equipped for that.
They don't, they can't handle that.
There's no reason to do that.
They have this bill now that you're going to do for, that they should have had a long time
ago that if you're a commercial pilot and you're flying, and you're flying,
and you see something floating around right next to you.
Yeah.
You have somewhere to report it now.
Yeah, that's what we need.
It reminds me sometimes when there could be like breakdowns in law enforcement if somebody
is murdered or missing or whatnot.
And then it travels into different jurisdictions and you have one jurisdiction that doesn't
want to share this information because they're doing their investigation and it bleeds
over to another county and another jurisdiction wants to get involved.
So they go, hey, I want to get that information.
So it helps ours.
And they go, no, no, we can't.
give you that. And guess what happens? The person gets murdered because they're sitting around
twiddling their thumbs trying to argue on like who has the jurisdiction over which
jurisdiction. It's really shitty to think that you have one person in this side of things in
the Pentagon or wherever it may be who has this information or wants to report something and they
don't know where to go because somebody over here is like, no, no, that's over here. No,
you want Bill down in third level here, right? It just seems like the uncoordinated nature. And Bill's
been fired for years, you know?
You know, it's like we got to get Milton out of here, put them in the basement, you know, whatever
it may be.
It's scary to think that, you know, if something like a pilot, you know, who's afraid to report
something because of the, what could happen to their job or their security, what, depending
on what it is, to think that if they finally do take that step and they're reported to something,
it can get lost.
Yeah.
It could just get lost in what is ultimately.
comes down to politics.
Right.
That's what it feels like.
Well, yeah, I think it's,
and there's definitely,
absolutely, you're 100% right,
the politics of it,
but there's also,
and this is something
that we've talked about
many times over,
and I want to hammer down the point,
that the second,
that fingers crossed,
the roof of this thing
finally does blow off.
One of the main reasons
they're trying to keep this quiet,
the amount of lawsuits,
the amount of criminal investigations
that will go on,
And people are, why?
Because you're taking money from what,
think about the lawsuit in general.
So let's say Lockheed Martin,
somehow was the reason that they came across the contract.
They've been the ones working with this.
They were the ones that putting the money into it.
They're the ones that have the most investment to it.
And there's other companies that could have put a bid on it
and could have it, but they didn't know about it.
They had no clue.
They had no clue they could have worked on it.
But they weren't included in it.
They could sue.
We never had an opportunity to put a bid.
We'd have an opportunity to do this.
The amount of stuff that if it does come out,
that this was kept quiet, this was handled illegally, this was paid off, all that stuff.
Like the amount, and for years that will be investigated, and that's, if you believe, again,
that's all this really is, a lot of this is rumors.
And I can't remember where it came from because it's just been paying attention to all of it.
That there was apparently a president that was going to want it to get full disclosure.
Now, some people think it was Obama, some people think it was Trump, whoever it was going to be.
that person was told, do not, and we cannot do this,
because the amount of investigations that will come through
and the amount of, I think there's actually,
Gresh talked about this on Rogan,
and the amount of things that will happen
will be astronomical.
And then that president backed off.
I bet. I bet.
I mean, it's like people don't want to share their secrets
and there's a million reasons why.
But I think that that would, I think what you said,
too. I mean, the amount of lawsuits that could baby pop up, people getting in trouble, losing jobs.
It's just a, we are in that world of, of, you know, misinformation, social media, spinning things out of
control, whatever it may be, the idea of just not knowing what this person said and what this
person knows and what they are saying to this person, it gets so confusing that you hide behind
the stigma of it and just say
UFOs are
I always say it like this
it's a dragon
right you know we're not going
there because most people
not us and people watching
here but most people are not really
asking those questions they don't want to know
they got or they don't even or they don't
are not even aware of it most
cases I would say they're not even aware of it because
again and it goes to the media going
not even covering that Schumer is up there
going hey everybody right let's figure
this out tell me what's going on we want to
transparency, that the speaker of the House, whoever maybe a Senate majority leader is saying,
we want answers, and that doesn't even make it to my father who reads the news every day,
you know? Which is crazy to think, but that's what they will see, though, but what he will
see is that opinion piece on CNN. That will somehow in the algorithm, that will wind up in his
inbox, that will wind up somewhere. Isn't that interesting? It's strange that the ones that are always
trying to like, you know, negated or give,
and I'm not telling you that that guy shouldn't have wrote that piece.
Fine.
But it's just interesting that that's the one that's going to start floating around.
When you do like a UFO news thing,
the amount of articles from real outlets
that are talking about Sean Kirkpatrick saying,
no, no, no, as opposed to when the Schumer and rounds thing
was going on limited.
Yeah.
It's weird.
It's really weird because I mean,
I think that these debunkers and these people, like you said,
they're like they're better at this.
The George Knapp said that.
Yeah.
Napp said that, right?
So the idea that it's, they do hide behind,
and they can hide behind the simple debunkering.
This is just fantasy.
This is just, because most people will go and not look past that.
So the opinion piece on CNN, Patrick's saying,
Pentagon has said, I don't have the report, though,
Pentagon is saying it's human from all the way down.
person reading that isn't saying, oh, I don't care about the report, they're just going,
oh, another thing where.
They'll go see.
Yeah, let's see.
It was a balloon in Roswell.
You're right.
You're right.
Yep.
Move on.
Who won the game last night?
Exactly.
That's what they want.
It's a subliminal kind of, you know, back in like the 50s and 60s when I would do the,
the drive-in theaters and then they would pop a quick picture of like popcorn.
Yeah.
I know.
I want popcorn.
Right.
Yeah.
And it's like that.
It's like, well, no, no, no.
Trust me.
Because someone's coming.
They're not paying attention to this stuff anyway, except like, you know, those
Idiots on Tuesday who do that show and, you know, and Corbell and Navia, they're going to keep
talking.
But the average person that we don't want really knowing about this stuff, they'll see this.
They'll go, okay, nothing to see here, move along.
Yeah.
And that's it.
Because there's stuff going on that, you know, and rightly so, you know, our world is terrible.
You know, there's stuff going on all over the world.
War is happening.
People dying.
You know, politics making a big difference in whether the, you know, there's, you know,
those wars are going to be handled or we're going to step in and now we have an election year
and most of these people are worried about their kids, worried about making bills on time,
paying, you know, making sure their house doesn't get taken out from under them.
And it's fantasy to them.
That's what I'm saying.
Right.
They, they, they, all they have to see is Kirkpatrick says Pentagon has documents that this is just
human.
See, I told you, there's no UFOs out there.
It builds on that narrative of, again, nothing to see here.
It's just the people who want to believe in it
are kind of making it kind of happen.
And this grush guy is whatever
and all this other footage that they have.
It's all explainable.
Don't worry.
Go back to doing what you're doing.
You're okay.
It's like they live.
You know what I mean?
Exactly.
So anyway, all that.
And then look, there is this thing also.
This was released by the Inspector General.
This is January 24th.
This is an unclassified summer.
You can see this.
I'm going to put this in the,
in the description below, so you guys want to check it, because I'm not going to read all this stuff,
but it's unclassified summary of report number DODIG, 203-109, evaluation of the DOD's actions regarding
unidentified anomalous phenomena. This is from August 15, 2020, but released on, I guess, January.
Note, a classified version of the evaluation of the DOD's actions regarding the UAPs formed the basis of the unclassified summary.
There is this whole thing here that's just going through the whole breakdown.
This is official, official breakdown of the UAP.
And just showing, the reason I show this at all,
and again, I can't read through this whole thing,
but it's just basically to break down,
everything kind of going down with the history.
Let's go back to that Kirkpatrick thing and all that stuff.
Why is this, if it's that, if there's something serious enough
to make this, put it out there.
You can access this right now.
And like I said, I'll put it in the description.
You can check it out.
it's just a little too like
to me if it's what
Kirkpatrick says is like yeah it's just
it's we have a program we have technology we don't want to talk about
and these people are making stuff up
come out and say it
and don't have documents like this floating around
about the whole about the whole time
and a whole I mean it's just like it's
it just smells like farts
it does smell like farts and it's confusing as hell
because it you know it'll be like nothing to see here
but here's an official document
where there's something to see.
Right.
I mean, that's what it comes down to.
If you dig into that,
and they are counting on people,
the regular people out there
that are worried about their mortgage
and the next election,
they're not going to go into that document.
They know that.
And these people, like Kirkpatrick,
I think are betting on that.
Right.
So they can read it.
So here's the point.
Read it.
I'm going to put it in the link of the description.
Read it.
Read about, in general.
If you're a skeptic,
please read it.
it. I'm not telling you're not going to be a skeptic after not reading it, but get the information.
Read it. And that's why Riley makes a fantastic point. This is out there in the same way that
Kakamami website with all the actual footage is out there, but it looks like it was created in a
Apple classroom in 1988. And that's out there and it's not promoted. You don't know it's out there
unless you're listening to shows like this. Unless you're looking for it. They're not making it aware.
They're not having it. Look, if you want to go check out exactly.
of what it is. Look at this document from the DOD.
Look at this unclassified document now.
Look at it. Read it.
Get your information. Be informed.
That's the whole point. That's the point of this show.
And that's the point in a lot of this. Be informed as where Jeremy Corbell was talking about.
It's like just being in the know.
What you don't want to do is this is the thing where we had, we had breakfast this morning, me and you and my wife joined us.
And she was talking more so about like she just, it's one of those things that she'll know when she has to know.
It's essentially what she said, right?
Yeah.
And I saw some people in the comments, like,
but your wife's poor or the problem.
Maybe when it comes to it,
but she's not,
but she's concentrated in other things.
We have kids, she's doing it,
she's concentrating on other things.
But my wife and a lot of other people
where one day,
if all this information kind of comes out
and networks have to cover it,
and it's everywhere.
They're going to go,
holy shit,
that thing you've been doing on Tuesday.
I guess there's some merit to that,
huh?
Like what, I guess I should start watching it.
What's happening?
The news,
not just my show,
but anybody's show.
that's covering this stuff and getting the news on it and all that because you're going to go
whoa this isn't because you're going to if you paid attention to that Kirkpatrick thing and you're
like I guess that was full of shit yeah I read that and thought it was legit yeah and you're just
going to have all this flood of information it's going to go bo bo bo and hit you in the face it's going to
be a lot it's going to be a lot oh and and and I would like it's that she's not part of the
problem that the problem is part of it is the mainstream media not reporting on this stuff
because you do have to put it in front of people like our wives, both of our wives, are very much like, I got this to worry about.
My wife's pregnant.
Do you think she's going to be looking up in the sky?
No, she's looking down going on.
She's trying to figure out what's going on.
Exactly.
So in my dad, I always bring him up, you know.
He's not getting it from his most trusted, you know, the OC register or LA Times or whatever the hell he's reading now.
That's the actual paper because it's not being covered.
So again, they are counting on that
That people are not looking
Because it is, yeah, you go to one of these websites
That might have the stuff that we're talking about
That we believe in and whatnot
And it looks like
I mean, it looks like somebody created in the basement
And it's like it's the inquire or something
Exactly, you know, you bring up your dad
You know what the other day, probably like a week ago
It's talking to my dad
And I've never, I haven't talking about this stuff at all
And he's asking, I said, well, you know
So how's the show's going?
What's going?
And I told him about
He's like, well, Tuesday's been really kind of great for me
because I've been able to go out there and talk about this thing
that I'm really passionate about and it's doing well for us
and I'm glad to be talking about.
And he's like, well, what is it?
I told him, ready, you know, for the, and he's so into it.
Is he into it?
He believes in it.
He believes in all this.
He thinks that the government's definitely not telling me.
My dad's a Vian, I'm more of that.
You know, like, and he's like, he's very much so like, yeah,
there's more.
There's more out there that.
And he's like, if anybody tries to tell you that we're the only ones here.
Yeah.
And he's like going straight.
He's, I was so happy to like hear.
We didn't like geek about, geek out about all this stuff too.
And he's not like, he's not super like well in for, because again, he does people watching the news and they're not covering it.
But like if he's, if he's paying attention to certain things, he kind of knows about Grush a little bit too.
But he, he's the type of guy that should know about all of it.
But he's not because he watches.
he can barely work streaming.
He turns on, and he's waiting for the news,
and he watches the news,
and he watches his sports and movies,
and he goes to sleep.
He walks the dogs, but if it's on the news,
he's going to pay attention to it.
And he was about as informed as he could have been
for someone who's watching mainstream stuff,
but his take on it was something that was really,
it was great, it was great.
Yeah, and, you know, my dad,
very similar, but, you know,
they come from, you know, that era,
the Kennedy assassination,
was my dad being like, they're not telling us.
There's something stinks here.
I mean, I talked to my dad.
We're listening to that great podcast that Reiner's doing.
Oh, Ron Reiner, yeah.
Finish now, yeah.
Yeah.
And it's, you know, all about, and you listen to this thing.
And, I mean, I don't care who you are.
You listen to this thing.
It's like, it's not Oswald.
Right.
It can't be just Oswald.
It's got to be something more to it.
And that's the one thing that got my dad to go, to perk up.
I go, the government's not telling us everything.
Just like Kennedy, Dad, and he goes, yeah, yeah, you're right, you know, because they have to protect their secrets.
That's what it starts with, and then it's just, like, misinformation campaigns and just not getting people to look at, not wanting people to see what they're talking about.
I'd love to get Reiner's thoughts on this.
I wonder what Riner feels about this.
I wonder.
I mean, I think he would be 100% in on the idea that the government was hiding something.
Because they've got to be hiding things to protect their ass.
but Reiner, I wonder, would be like, yep, there's probably hiding some kind of program to protect their interests.
And I would think Reiner would be like, it's military.
Right.
You know, and it's advanced technology.
They don't want to say, whether it's aliens, I don't know about that.
But that's where I think he'd land on this.
It'd be very interesting.
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to start with this article that I think it's, I don't think it's, I think when you title it like this,
you're asking for the...
But there's a question behind it.
Let me show it.
The Daily Mail, you know,
when they had that whole thing about the CIA program
and everything, too, is that people were like,
well, you can't take the Daily Mail serious.
And there's a lot of stuff that they have
that they report on that, I think,
is pretty damn good.
But like, I don't know, I love this title.
And the title itself is...
I can't imagine why.
The title itself is,
what are they trying to tell us?
Internal Pentagon Report warns that America
is unequipped to defend itself from an alien invasion.
All right.
So this is kind of, I think this is the thing that I just, that I just read, but it isn't
anything about an alien invasion.
No.
This is what, and this is what, and this is, you can't, this is the kind of stuff.
We're not, you can't dump this kind of title.
You just can't.
U.S. officials do not have the capabilities to defend America against the hypothetical
alien invasion.
Internal Pentagon watchdogs have determined.
A newly classified document found the deputies.
Department of Defense lacks comprehensive or coordinated effort to track and analyze UFOs,
which have been re-branded UAPs in recent years.
And this is the article that I, or the document that I just read.
There was no mention of aliens in there.
There was no mention of extraterrestrials, nothing.
Yeah.
The Office of Inspector General made the eerie conclusion that this blindspot in DOD's
defensive capabilities poses a threat to military force and national security, which it absolutely
did say that.
To address the issues identified in this report, the OIG has made 11 recommendations, including
the enforcement of protection policies and the development of new tools in the event of an
extraterrestrial attack. DoD efforts to identify and understand UAP has been irregular because of
competing priorities, lack of substantial progress, and inconclusive findings, reads the
evaluation of DOD's actions regarding unidentified anomalous phenomenon previously issued in
2023. However, military pilots have continued to report UAP incidents despite the sporadic efforts of the
DOD to identify report and analyze the events. The 2020 report was a collection of evaluations to
whether the Pentagon military branches, defense agencies, and counterintelligence organizations
conducted actions to detect, report, collect, analyze, and identify UAP. The DOD has not issued
a comprehensive UAP response plan that identifies roles, responsibilities, requirements, and
coordination procedures for detecting, reporting, collecting, analyzing, and identifying UAP incidents.
The agency conducted the work for the evaluation from May 2021 through 2023 and interviewed presidential and DOD policies, directives, and guidance.
Okay.
However, the OIG has questioned the abilities of the nation to organize and defend itself in a summary of the classified report.
They found that due to a lack of DOD-level guidance, the AARO has not developed a formal process to detect and report on unidentified objects in the U.S. skies.
This is probably one of those things where, you know, this is probably why Sean Kirkpatrick started to do what he was doing.
is indeed the case. UAPs are designated as special interest items among military officials who
require air crews to document and report sightings within 24 hours of shutting down the engines
of their own aircraft. Some of those unexplained observations have been sent to the AARO, but the
reported noted that DOD does not require military services to do so. I think the article itself is
a valid article, and it's just saying that it's not equipped to handle whatever this is, but the
flashy headline is they're not prepared for an alien invasion. It's like, what are you doing?
That's a sensational headline.
What are you doing?
It's like that's the kind of stuff.
But you're given merit to what Carpatrick is saying in the first place.
Yeah.
Even if it's 100% true, that, I mean, essentially what they're saying isn't wrong.
It's like if this report is accurate, what AARO is talking about is that they're not, they
didn't have, they haven't set up this system the right way.
They don't know who's doing what.
They don't know what's happening over there.
They're not prepared whatever these things are.
Right.
So, yeah, if it turned out that there was a bunch of hot dogs in the ship, we wouldn't be ready for a hot dog invasion.
You could have said anything.
But to do that, I mean, that's, you're asking for people go, daily mail again, doing their stuff, because they could have done that whole article without that silly headline.
That was a silly, silly headline.
Yeah.
It was that report, I would, I think they would have benefited themselves more if they talked to.
about is this why Sean Capacrick released what he did because he knew this was coming.
Right.
And made it about that because everything they said in there was good article.
Stupid headline.
Yeah.
It's a sensationalized headline, you know, because they want somebody, they want just your
average Joe surfing the internet, looking for, you know, tracking his package of whatever
he's getting from Amazon and there's an ad for maybe daily mail.
And he goes in the, and literally it's one of those, I got to see what I.
And they're not going to get, because then, as you said, the article actually gives you some great information and goes into some specifics.
Maybe that's what they're trying to do is get you with the headline and then say, but read what this is really about.
But the problem is that you're going to lose people before even.
You're turning into the National Inquirer bat boy stuff.
Remember that?
Yeah, Bat Boy.
Yeah, Bat Boy.
It's like you can't do that.
Even if it's true, you can't lead with that right now.
It's like you're not there yet.
Yeah.
This is a bad move by them.
Yeah, you're only going to get a few of.
people I would think like Randy Quaid
from Independence Day
to clicking on that thing.
I told you they're out there, they're coming, you know,
and it's like, that's not what we're saying.
Right. You know, people will
debunk you in the sense that if you bring this up,
they think you're immediately talking about
little green men from Mars. Right.
That's not what we're talking about.
Especially not even in this article that's not what they're talking.
They're just like... Farthest from what we're talking about.
Yeah, essentially what they're saying in this article is, there is no
plan in place to show whatever this is, whatever these things are, that if they were indeed
hostile, whatever they are experienced or well-advanced drones, crafty from, yes.
Whatever they are, we're not well-equipped to battle them. That to me is enough of it,
like, whatever, even the title, whatever these UAPs are, we are not handled to defend against
them. That's it. Yeah. Whatever they are. Not alien invasion. You do that and you're just asking for
the, that was, that was a bad move.
And I liked their article about the CIA stuff.
I thought it was, it was pretty good.
No, there's good stuff within the article.
But yeah, you are, then you are using the sensationalized, like saying it over and over again,
but you are, you are adding to the stigma that we were trying to buck up against, which is,
you know, it's not, it's not a three mile wide saucer that's hanging over the White House.
You know, it's not E.T. coming down to be best friends with a 10-year-old.
We were talking about something that.
might be a drone or something from Russia or China.
It could be.
It could be.
That's what we're talking about.
Not Little Green Men, War of the Worlds and Tom Cruise is going to have to save us.
Because if it is that side of it, if, again, from all the reports and things that they've been
for thousands of years, you would have seemed that they would have tried to do this.
They've done something by now?
Years ago.
Like, from the reports are when I mentioned last week and people were excited that I did,
and I'll mention it again, did you watch that episode of Wi-Fi?
that I sent you yet?
No, I haven't.
You got to watch that.
I know, I really do.
I'm going to sit down and watch that thing.
You need to.
And they mentioned inside of that, too,
that the reports that they had from these
remote viewers was that,
or I think,
was that these,
that whatever these creatures are,
they look at us like the way
that you and I look at birds.
And like, oh, look at that bird.
Oh, the bird flew in my hand.
Okay, that's a nice bird.
I'll take care of that bird.
And then the bird,
you forget about the bird.
You're going to pay attention to the bird.
And then the bird gets its hand on nuclear weapons
and you go,
oh,
Maybe we should pay attention to that bird for a second.
Get that out of there.
Okay, let's go back to our business.
Yeah.
You don't, us as humans were so freaking arrogant that we want to, we can't imagine that.
We can't imagine we're not the center of the universe.
And it's like, you could be, we, and I've always, I've always said this even before I start
getting into this stuff, is that the idea that we're the smartest.
You turn on the flora, flora bama shore.
We're not the smartest.
You turn on any reality TV show.
We might be the dumbest.
And yet we're wondering, oh, if they have this kind of technology, wouldn't we know?
No.
Yeah.
If they could do things that like Ben's space time, how do we know we couldn't do that?
Because we can't.
We're dumb as opposed to what they could potentially do.
Anyway, a lot of stuff.
What do you guys think about the headline first and foremost with the Daily Mail?
Do you think that there's nothing wrong with it?
Do you think it was a good headline?
Do you think that they're right?
Or do you think it was a stupid headline?
They should have focused more so on the DOJ?
D. Tell us, comment, let us know what you think. Okay, so here it is. This is before we go.
I have two videos that I want to get Riley's opinion on. I want to get your opinion on.
These were two. One, they're both fairly older, and our buddy Pavelle, who's been on the show, sent these to me.
And I want to see what you make of them. I want to see what you think of them. Do you think that
they're legit? You think they're BS? Do you think that, you know, what do you think about these?
Let me play both of them. Here's the first one. All right, here it is, Riley. Ready?
Yeah.
Is the empire attacking?
It looks like the dust.
It looks like...
It looks like something out of Star Wars.
I mean, it really does.
But like, that's about...
Listen, now that's as clear of a footage
that you're ever going to get and play it again.
Someone says it's a TR3B.
Whatever that is.
What is the hell is that?
Whatever that is.
I mean, it's moving weird right there.
It makes me think it's CGI or somebody effing around.
Right.
I don't know.
You know, it looks...
Yeah. It looks like the first order is attacking, you know, crate.
Yeah, someone says, this is a bearded believer.
It looks like the TR3B. I've seen patents for it.
July 26. What is that? I don't know what that is.
Yeah. He's saying it like we know exactly what you're talking about.
A lot of people are saying that.
TR3B, secret government craft, anti-gravity with conventional navigation.
Google, there's lots of stuff on it.
Wow.
So, I mean, that's what, so it, people are saying it looks pretty legit.
I mean, look, it did, it, but today, I don't know, with CGI and everything, too, it's so hard.
It's so hard to tell.
So, yeah, I think something floating around like that, but if it's a secret craft, I mean, you're flying pretty low, you have somebody to get you like that.
I mean, that's the most clear footage I've ever seen of everything.
If that's one of ours, I mean, you might have.
Yeah, if it's one of hours and it's, you know, patent pending.
What is it?
Then why the hell is it flying so low?
And how is it not, how is that footage not taken away?
I tend to call bullshit just that it's, you know, it's like, all right, it looked weird,
but I mean, I'm willing to buy that it's like patent pending.
This is one of ours.
Right.
And they were testing it out somewhere.
Again, that's what we would like to know, I suppose.
If you're going to, if you're going to test something that is, you're going to change our technology as we know it, like it's the next iPhone,
but it's anti-gravity, whatever.
You know, I think, you know, it would behoove people to let us know so we don't freak the F out.
But it's also, if that is, let's play the side of it that that's legit.
That's that thing that they're talking about, whatever the hell it is.
Right.
Now, if that is the case and that's something, then I'm going to start saying, we've got to have a reverse engineer program.
Like, what is that?
Yeah, right.
Like, what is that?
Like, what is that?
How do you...
I mean, how you could develop that already?
You can develop...
I mean, that is, it's something right out of Star Wars.
It really is.
It's nuts.
Now, this is the other one.
This one's interesting also.
It's...
It could be CGI.
I don't know.
But what say you guys?
All right, Riley, have you seen this one yet?
I have.
You have seen this one.
I have seen it.
So here's why...
This seems to be on, like, a commercial flight or something.
It is.
It seems.
Okay.
So here's why I think this is capital B, capital S.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Why isn't every single person on that plane losing their minds, screaming?
What is that?
It's so close to the airplane.
This is hysterical.
When you sent this to me, I saw this thing in 2008.
This video.
Okay.
And that video that you shared is a copy of a copy of a copy of the original, probably.
Okay.
And the person that shared it, and this is why I know, I found this video.
I was working on at the time a UFO script with a producer and a manager that was when we were going back and forth and rewrites all over the place.
And as you know in Hollywood, sometimes they just drop off the face of the earth.
Right.
You can't get them on the phone.
You can't get them the answer in email.
So I went and I Googled and I found somebody that said, yeah, I made this CGO.
guy thing of a UFO
flying next to an airplane. Here it
is. And I grabbed that
video and I had just gotten
married for the first time years ago
and I came back from my honeymoon at the time
and I wrote this producer
and I said, hey, I just got back from my
honeymoon and these guys buzzed our
plane and I got footage of it and they want
to know what's going on with our script.
That was to get, you know,
to make myself stand out.
And I grabbed that video
and I sent it to him and
He dropped me soon after.
We can't, we can't.
Yeah, we figure we can't really go any further with this project.
And I was like, you son of a bitch.
But that is the video.
That is the exact video I grabbed.
So it's the farts.
It's not real.
It's the farts.
So this is where it gets complicated overall.
Because when you go on, whether it's UAP, Twitter, UFO, Twitter, whatever it is,
you're going to see tons of these things.
Now, this is something that is, I think, benefits the secret people, the people who are keeping the secrets.
Because who knows what's out there that's real.
There could be something.
I've seen stuff where there's a guy and he's like, he's all like out of breath and he sees this thing on the field and the thing takes off in the air.
And you're like, well, that's clearly fake.
And I would say there's probably a 99% chance.
that it's fake.
But that 1% because something's floating around out there,
you're like, because they go, there's so much.
Because if you're working at, let's say, Lockheedmore and whatever it is,
and you go, hey, they just put that thing on Twitter.
There's tons of stuff on Twitter.
Yeah, but they're going to think that one's real.
No, they're not.
Why?
Because everything else out there looks exactly the same.
You got somebody doing this.
And guess what?
The legit one, that's legit.
The corridor crew just said it was fake.
We're good.
Right.
Because the second they say it, then if people go,
The corridor crew said it.
I like the corridor crew a lot, but they say everything's fake.
And so, and the stuff that they looked at, very well, all that could have been fake.
But they're going to say everything's fake.
Right.
So that's where you're like, we're good.
Don't worry about it.
Let them release everything they want.
The jellyfish is out.
Do they have the part with the water?
No.
No. We're good.
Yeah.
You got to understand that those conversations are definitely happening.
Sure.
So that's the footage we found here, guys.
What do you think?
You think they're both, I guess the first one is, is it ours?
Is it fake?
The second one is, clearly, we know from someone who knows, it ain't real.
Did you think it was real when you saw it?
Looks good.
There's a lot of stuff.
And I get people that have been sending me, sightings and stuff that they have seen and things that they have seen.
And who knows what the hell it is?
Because that's the other side of you.
You look up and I have one that I haven't shown.
Maybe if I can find it, I'll put it up while I'm talking about it.
But like, I was in, I was grilling.
And I don't know what this thing was.
This red thing just zipped across the sky.
Yeah, you sent it to me.
And I was like, what is that?
I don't know what it was.
Yeah.
And I'll play it if I can find it on my phone.
And I was like, well, I don't know what that is.
And a month earlier, I had seen that thing of the things zipping around my sky and doing that.
And I'm like, well, the chances I've never seen these things.
Then I start talking about it on a show.
And then it starts popping up.
Am I imagining things?
But the red one was like daytime.
And it's like, I don't know what it is.
And just don't tell, don't write you that it's a balloon.
Just don't write a balloon.
No, that wasn't a balloon.
I don't know what it was.
I don't know what it was.
But it was, but it was something.
It was like, I don't know what that was.
And it's just kind of zipped across the sky.
I was like, what the hell was that?
And I sent it to you because I got it.
Yeah.
I don't know how I got it, but I got it.
And I don't, that's the first time I actually put that out there.
But I don't know.
Right.
At all this stuff, you know, I guess we're going to be, the big things that I believe that are going to happen over the next two months is that Gary Nolan, S.
the sole footage stuff, that's going to come out.
Yeah, me too.
The information's going to come out.
That's going to probably like a two-hour episode for you and I.
Yeah.
We do that.
And then the question of the hearing, like, when's that going to happen?
Yeah.
Right?
So, like, that's the big one for me, honestly.
I mean, I think the sole thing is definitely coming because there's been leaks from it.
And, you know, but it's the hearing that always gets to be interested because we,
that's what we're trying to do is get our elected officials to know, to get the
information so that they can, you know, maybe make us feel better.
about what's going on, you know, that they get some, some, the answers and that it's in a skiff,
that that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that it's going to be classified, so that, that, that is their,
it's the first line of defense for them, and maybe it's technology or they don't know,
and it could be extraterrestrial, or you know, interdimensional, whatever you want to say.
At least that we have our elected officials that are looking into this so that they can now
tell their constituents, it's real, or we don't know, or that's bullshit.
Right. Well, there you go. What do you think it is?
Thanks for joining us here today.
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