The Kristian Harloff Show - GODZILLA MINUS ONE Director Wants Kaiju battles In The Sequel!

Episode Date: February 26, 2024

Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow Godzilla Minus One was the talk of the movies last year! Director Takashi Yamazaki recently discussed what he would like for the sequel and it involves Kaju battles. WWE had it's Elimination Chamber this weekend. How did we rate it? The box Office saw Bob Marley reign supreme again. Dune 2 is getting rave reviews, will it show up in the box office? SAG awards, Goslinbg singing at the Oscars and we take your questions LIVE on today's show with Kristian and Rocha. #godzilla #dune #duneparttwo #movies #boxoffice OUR SPONSORS: AG1: http://www.drinkAg1.com/BIGTHING THE PERFECT JEAN: F*%k your khakis and get The Perfect Jean 15% off with the code BIGTHING15 at http://www.theperfectjean.nyc/BIGTHING15 #theperfectjeanpod BLUE CHEW: BlueChew wants to help you have better sex! Discover your options at http://www.BlueChew.com Chew it and do it!  TUSHY Over 3 Million Butts Love TUSHY. Get 10% off TUSHY with the code BIGTHING at https://hellotushy.com/BIGTHING  #tushypod ROCHA CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/@JohnRochaSays OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-... FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff   AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls...

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UAP show in the morning sometimes. And there's so much, you have no idea. If you watch the UAP show tomorrow, who wee, it's going to be a stacked one hour and a half. Me, Riley and Pavel, talking about that Jesse Michael's doc that just came out. And it is crazy if you haven't watched it. But anyway, we'll get to that tomorrow. Today, we got some stuff. I do a poll on the community tab. And we say, listen, I got a couple of different topics that I want to go over. And what do you guys think we should lead with and do the thumbnail? I've done that a few times and you guys have picked the winner.

So you pick the winner again. And we got Godzilla minus one. And director says, sequel, Kaiju coming, battles. And to which I respond, F yeah. Can't wait for that. And we'll talk about that for short. he's mentioned that he wanted to do Star Wars too, the director. I wonder if that'll ever happen.

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And the outlaw, John Roker is here. John, what's up, buddy? How are you doing? What's up, buddy? I'm good. I'm good. Good weekend. Yeah. Feeling excited for another week. And so there's a lot of stuff starting to happen. You know, January and February, you know, those are tough months, Christian. Not a lot of smoking, not a lot of going on that's smoking hot and exciting to talk about. And then bang, here we go. Everything's starting to come with Doom 2 and everything comes. So I'm really excited, looking forward to a summer season coming real soon. I think that's one of the reasons I like the fact that, I mean, as you know,

I've gotten really into the UAP subject for the last six or seven months. And it's been, it's been a passion project. We've really into it. We've been watching a lot of the news and keeping up to it. And I feel like, I don't know, I feel like it's an obligation now to tell people like the news that the mainstream media isn't really a lot of times. and it's been a lot of fun. And I think it's almost a little foreign to me in a good way.

What you're saying is normally in January, February, because the channel always covered just movie culture stuff. But we've been busy January and February because there's been so much news with all the upcoming potential like field hearings and all this other stuff too. But you're right because March does start. It's almost like a summer season. Yeah. You have three major movies alone.

with Dune, Ghostbusters, Godzilla and Kong. And I think there's like one other one that comes out. And it's imaginary that, that, there's quite a few movies that are coming out that it's like, whoa,

this is like the start of it. So I understand what you're saying for sure. And then TV shows, nothing massive yet. Game of Thrones in summertime, I think. Like Abbott Elementary's come back, which I love. But I've been getting into the reality show.

So, like, Love is Blind season six has come back. And that's been my obsession for the last couple of weeks. And the lady outlaw and I've been diving into old amazing race seasons. So we're loving that on Paramount Plus. That show is fucking excellent. So there is. Okay. Well, we got some stuff.

You know, let's just start off with the main topic here, John. You know, this is I did a poll for the audience. And as I said beforehand, too, I see the questions coming in. If you're brand new to this stream, you haven't been here before. Basically, what happens is John and I go through all. the topics and at the end we go through all the super chats and we keep them open until we sign off yeah so you can fire them in there uh greatly appreciated okay let's start with the main topic here which of course is this godzilla minus one news it was my favorite film of last year yeah loved it um godzilla minus one

director takashi yamazaki says that he wants to have a kaiju battle in the sequel director takashi yamazaki was initially hesitant to talk about a godzilla minus one sequel but even he knows that a follow-up is inevitable after the film's box office performance mark julian over a comic book oh no this is that over at uh he's usually a comic book movie but this is s f gazette so i guess this is like a counter to uh kind of uh anyway he with tons of accolades and an impressive hall at the box office from a modest production budget a sequel to godzilla minus one is inevitable however in the midst of minus one's theatrical run, director Takashi Yamazaki, was loath to discuss any possibility of a sequel. However, after the film's Oscar nomination, even he acknowledges that he'll be making a sequel at some point. Interesting enough, it seems that he wants to have Godzilla fighting another kaiju in the sequel rather than rampaging through Japan's city streets. Speaking to Empire Magazine, he said, I don't know if anyone has achieved a more serious tone of kaiju versus kaiju with human drama. That challenge is something I would like to explore. He went on to add, when you have movies that feature kaiju bottles, I think it is very easy to put the spotlight and the camera on the spectacle, and it detaches itself from the human drama component.

However, there might be a lengthy wait for the sequel, as he recently told Collier that he's already committed to filming another project that he'll need to wrap up before starting work on a minus one sequel. I can tell you that the minus one sequel is not going to be my next film. I've already got next film and development that I'm working on. But will it be the one after that? That remains to be seen. Minus 1 recently ended its North American theatrical run as the third highest grossing foreign language film of all time after Life is Beautiful and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon.

The film also recently secured a Best Visual Effects Oscar nomination where it will compete against the creator Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3. Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning 1 and Napoleon. It's the first Oscar nomination for the Godzilla franchise in the IPs history. Okay, so let's just get to the news there. John, first of all, what do you think?

I know you loved Godzilla minus 1 as much as I did. Did, loved it. So I'm black and white the other day. Oh, did you really? Yeah, it was a blast. Awesome. So what are your thoughts on, first of all, just the idea of an overall sequel? You know, I'm always hesitant when something comes up and is incredible and kind of shows you

that there is some magic within the genre that you remembered, but still makes it, like, relevant to the topics that we're talking about today in our world. So I love Godzilla minus one for that. Yeah, spectacle alone, it's awesome, the story, but the commentary it's making, you know, the anti-government commentary it's making, and the jaws references throughout. So it's great.

So you hear a sequel, you're like, oh, can you capture the magic again? You start to worry, can you really capture the magic again? And then you throw in that he's going to find another kaiju, and I read his response to the director's response. He says, we've never seen the kaiju versus kaiju with the human drama done really well. Right.

That would be my hesitation. Do I trust that he can do it? Consider what we got on Godzilla minus one. Yes, but I'm also cautiously optimistic because I don't want it to go down the road that the Warner Brothers once have gone. And if it does, it's going to lose the magic of the original. I agree with you 100%.

I think that it's like, it's like one of those things where, well, he has my trust. Yes. He has my trust. And I actually think it's a good thing that it's not his next project. It's like, don't do. I love Matthew Vaughn, but Matthew Vaughn inside of that Kingsman franchise, like, dude, get away from that franchise. Don't do spies anymore.

Stay away from the spy stuff. And now you get this guy who knows what he wants to do. And he's like, I got a different project. And then I'm going to come back to it. And it gives him time to marinate on it, decide, because he said the right things. He said, and it's funny because he actually talked and gave some kind words to the Godzilla Warner Brothers franchise. I'm sure it was political also, but like he gave it and he was more or less than how much fun they were. But yet in this comment, he's like, it hasn't really been done right.

And he's not wrong. It hasn't been done right. It's like I never give a crap about those characters, the human characters. Who cares? Just come show me the fights. With Godzilla minus one, I'll be upset if it's just fights. Yeah. Because he's established that I, that I've cared.

Now, if he can pull off the trick and he can pull off the, okay, now you got Kaiju plus the human story. Right. And you've got to now, Godzilla's got to do a face turn. Right. You've got to go to heal the face. And because he's a,

he's a son of a bitch in the first one. So why do I like him in the second one? Which is another trick. He's got to pull off. So I'm down for this. I'm really down for this because I love him. But I also want to see him do some other stuff. And I want to,

it's like, it's like almost like I'm so glad that Denneville and a while ago. Wonder if Denievelinov would do Star Wars. He did something better than Star Wars right now. Star Wars right now does not compare to what Dune 2 is just a.

Dune 2 is one of the best science fiction movies. I don't know what I'm to say ever yet. I could say that, but I'm definitely saying the last 10 years. Movies, it's, when was the last time you had an experience like that in the movies theater? I mean, when you're looking in sci-fi, this is absolutely in the top five

already. Not even a question. Not even a question. And it will take time for multiple rewatches and then multiple reassessments and then we'll see where it lands. But it's absolutely a groundbreaking film in how it's telling the story. And you don't even have to have seen the first one.

That's the real trick. I don't agree with that, though. You don't? No, really. I know Denise even said that too. I don't agree with that. I think that I think it elevates It's the first, this is a second half of a film. Yeah, yeah. But you could watch the second half and know what's going on, but you don't have the same

impact if you're as invested to the story of what Paul Atratus has to go to and the visions he saw in order to get there and the relationship we have with his dad and the things, all that stuff is so relevant. And the stuff that Duncan taught him, like, there's just so much that he's got to go through in that first one in order to have that impact of the second one. I'm not going to say that you'll be lost. You can probably, you won't be lost. lost, but you won't, you won't experience it the same way because you won't have an attachment

to everything that leads up to it. The, the, like, just the idea of how he, what happens with his mom and the journey, there's just so much. It's like, the movie is, it's a big six-hour epic film. That's what I'm just saying, you can go and see it, not having seen it because they give you the background. But what you're talking about is, will you feel full weight of these moments given the context of what you get in the first movie and you're absolutely right in that way you're not

you get it there's two different conversations right there's two different questions right the first question is will i be confused if i see the second without seeing the first one no no you'll you'll start to ask but you'll when you're watching the question you're like well who's that guy who's that person who's because you're not set up the same way like i i i actually i think it is a mistake not to see the first one without before the scene the second one i think it's a right but a mass But you can go back. What's great is going back, as you said, when we talked about this. Sure. I think a week or ago where you said, like, if you go back and watch part one, it has even more residents after you've seen part two.

Because you'll see, like, how these things are being laid out even more effectively in part one. Yeah. And that movie's right around the corner. And there's already, as we, you and I already have seen the film. People went and saw it last night. People are losing their minds over it. It's still only has four negative rotten reviews. And I read all of them.

I don't agree with a single one of them. I was trying to find the points. It's their takes. Yeah, of course. And it was, and they weren't done in any way except just didn't work for them, but I just didn't agree with any of their points. Some of the stuff of how,

what they said that they left out some of the main kind of political themes. I'm like, what are you talking about? The whole thing, like the religious fanaticism of it. It's just like, it's just such, such justice.

It's like, if you do science fiction right or science fiction fantasy, what is you do that right? you're going to get me like that, right? And you put some level behind it. And this is like Game of Thrones meets Star Wars, like the things I love about Andor is in there. Like everything, like it's just big, huge moments and over the top action.

And but, but then it stops and gives you like, it gives you like meat on a sandwich. It just doesn't just give you the bread. Right, right. No way, look, we were just talking about Godzilla minus one, right? The idea of two kaiju's going at it.

In essence, Austin Butler and Timothy Shalame are the two kajus of this movie and they give you an incredible human element and drama and story throughout this one with twists and turns and if you've read the book you obviously

see the things that are coming but if you haven't the twists and turns work really well and are effective and organically laid out and logically laid out as the by the direct by a Denisville-Leneuve here as you go along with the movie and I love that I love that and I keep saying

And they limited walking, which I thought was great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was impactful when he, when he needed to be. Exactly. But the, the movie, I keep saying the third film, by the way, is called legacy, and that's not correct. People keep correcting me. It's prophecy is the next, the next way. Then he's got to do it now.

He's got it. So I still don't think this movie's making a billion dollars. I don't think it's making a billion. But I, but I will say it's going to do. I think it probably hits close to six, maybe even seven. A billion. You think it's going to make a billion? I hope you're right.

I hope you're right. It's not a bet that I would take. I think word of mouth is what's going to get it over. I think you might be right. I think that, you know, it's just like, and I also forgot Kung Fu Panda, by the way, it comes out. It's which is a big one for the kids. Obviously, that's the next one.

That's the following week. That's not going to be, it's not going to take any business away from Dune. Yeah. So, yeah. It's just going to be hard because, like, you got Godzilla versus Kong coming out. And I think more people sometimes, there is that audience. And look, there's just, I'm also excited to see that movie because there's sometimes that I just want to throw popcorn in my face. Yeah.

And I know what I'm going to get. I know I'm not going to give a shit about any of the humans. Right. I know that it's going to be Apollo and Rocky running on the beach with the two monsters. And they're, yeah, okay, cool. And that's all it is. You're not going for substance. You're just going to watch things blow up and watch.

fights, right? That's what you're doing. There is that audience like me is going there for that, for that fun of it. And then there's the audience that just is like, we don't like dialogue. We just like boom boom all the time. Like the boom boom audience, right? Like there was a lot of, and there were some people who just were bored by Andor. And then there was the boom boom audience. It just wasn't enough boom boom. So they were bored. And I think that that's, that's going to help and hurt Dune. It's going to help Godzilla and Kong. And what's is so strange, why do the hell, I guess, because of the pushback because of the, the strikes, why are you competing against your own movie?

Yeah, I know. It's weird. WB did this in December as well, right, with color purple, Wonka and whatever else. I forget the third movie that came out. Oh, Aquaman. They were competing with each other all through December. So they're doing it again here with Godzilla versus Kong. Maybe they think, you know, it's like, Dune 2 gets the ramp up, gets the early release.

So all the people who want to see it are going to go out and see it. And then the repeat watchers are the people. people who are going to like fill in the holes after that and they think Godzilla versus con we got to just got to get that going right off the bat to kind of kick off summer in a way so it's maybe they think that's and there's two different maybe they think it's two different audiences too like you said the boom boom audience godzilla and Kong the other audience was a little more intellectual goes to dune two but to be fairly but look but there's and that's why I wanted to make a distinction between it too because I like the boom boom stuff as much as you know yeah sometimes but it's like but it's just a matter

it's not all I like. Right, right, right. Like I saw somebody in the comments go, and or his complete ass. If you think that, up to you. But like, show me what you wrote. But no,

no, no, but I don't do that. That's me. That's me. I don't do the, well, what did you write? I can't do that because it's like,

I don't write a bunch of stuff, and I still get my thoughts on stuff all the time. So people can give their opinions on it, but I'm just saying, that's not an opinion, though, calling something ass. It has no depth of complexity to it. True,

but it depends on why. If you're saying it, but just, are you going to be part of the crew goes into it boring then then i'm not listening to you right if you're like no because i'll tell you why when i watch certain parts of that conversation it doesn't make sense to me because of this this this this and i didn't like the way they set that up you have that kind of conversation i'm going to listen right if you call that that show boring i don't listen to you i tune out yeah you just it was a little too slow for my taste because when it started out it just took too long for me to

get it's legitimate it's like it just took too slow for me to get going because by the time i by the time i was finally like interested it was too late i'm like okay that's fair that's fair i don't feel the same way but that's fair but is boring not i can't i can't listen to you i can't work with this i can't work it's not boring yeah but it's not laura kelly on the jedi way not a fan of andor but she eloquently lays out why she doesn't like the series right that's how you do it right she actually and you can disagree with her yeah exactly but it's just like you know if you make the statement of andor's ass okay well you've already lost me yeah but but why why exactly let's go lay it out what's your reasons why so and i'm sure you're going to see the same that i saw some people say dune one was

boring and i'm like what we're talking about like but again it's like okay yeah he but but it's not i can defend his point exactly yes and what i said to him afterers i was like but but two elevates one it's you got to watch this one big film it's one big movie like if you come at the end you're like okay now I think that the first one to the to the educated person who goes to it I think they're going to go even if they found it boring the first one yeah I'm gonna go well wait a minute

now that I've seen this first one I watch a second one my opinions changed on it because it's like it's just it's the first half of the movie laying the groundwork for everything you're going to enjoy in two right if one doesn't do an effective job laying the groundwork you're not going to enjoy too that's right yeah so I'm so you think it's going to make a bill

yes I'm still I'm even more adamant after having seen it. Yeah, I get it. I mean, I might even go tonight to a, to a one of those press, oh, not press and press and, um, regular people screenings, you know, for lack of a better term. Yeah. And those are usually chock full of people who are, you know, talking on their phones, farting, whatever while they're watching the movie. I might even risk that tonight to go see it again. Yeah, I want to see the nine next. I know. Oh, yeah, but it's, it's, you're just, you're not, but you're not in the theater when you're watching. You're on, you're on like planet you're just you're transported there it's like there's a i don't know i'm not spoiling me but there's just

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and we're going to talk about all of those so don't you fret i'm so i'm almost say fred enough um this one elimination chamber it has i've been watching a lot more wrestling lately because I'll tell you, the product is better now. It's better. It's better right now. And it's got, the stories are working for me. They're paying as it. And I was thinking about it too.

There's not a lot of this like, you know, I know that sometimes it's fun matches, but I was thinking like when they did that whole thing, God rest of soul, Bray Wyatt, uh, I thought he would have, how beloved he was. But like when they did that whole thing with John Cena, when it was like, it was something of like a horror movie and they do all these different things. And it detaches me from the place. I don't feel like it's like the sports thing. And a lot of times when you're like the real, you know,

when people are disappearing and coming back in and like, I like it. I like when it feels like it's an actual sporting event. And what seems like more so when they're doing it with the way that they've been doing it lately. And this, what was your overall ranking for the entire event? Well, I'd give it an, I'd probably give it an eight in terms of the overall matches and the approach to everything. usually I don't like the Grayson Waller. I'm not a Grayson Waller guy. I know

a lot of people are. Yeah. But that worked so well. Yeah, I really enjoyed that. It may have even seen an Austin Theory face turn, we shall see. And even the tag team match, which I wasn't that jazzed about, overall, delivered a good product. But those matches were, the chamber matches were great.

And I'll tell you this, I had no expectation for the Nia Jack's match against Ria. I thought that was just going to be terrible, because I'm not a big I am person and damn if it didn't deliver so yeah well it shows you how big of a star rhea rippley is in general but it also shows that you know i think nialli jacks has come to play she's been she's been pretty stiff and hurt people in the past but i think that she had to come to jesus with somebody i don't know and um charlotte i think it was charlotte it was it okay

well either way she's she's turned her whole game around and she's been and they've built her really well i mean you knew she wasn't going to win you know right and and corey graves is that his name yeah cori graves the color guy yeah he messed up like five different calls throughout the whole thing the one thing that he said at one point he's he it was so bad he's like he goes and then you got be gonna be facing uh you know ria ripply at russomania and he's like oh i just got an angry text from nia jacks who says uh don't forget about her and it's like oh yeah that was brutal yeah it's like dude you know you're setting up your title match like that everybody the whole time has been saying it what are you doing yeah yeah i'm always

back and forth on Corey, man. I was never the biggest fan of his. And I know some of the stuff he's done behind the scenes you've read about with him and coachman. I mean, not the nicest dude. So for me, I'm always kind of half in, half out on Corey. And the fact that there was a former wrestler who was hurt by injury. You know what I'm saying? It's like when you hear those journeyman quarterbacks trying to tell you what's going on in the NFL, you kind of laugh at those guys. So in a lot of ways, I kind of laugh at Corey with some of the analysis. So no surprise I see him mess up a few times. Yeah, it was a few times. But, It doesn't take away from the overall event.

I thought the event was really, really good. I thought that they, I make sense that Becky won. There's no way she's going to beat Ria Ripley, but it's a good, it's a good match to have. Yeah. They set up a good two, two good women's match now for WrestleMania. Yeah. The idea that they said totally with Cody and the Rock,

you're probably going to now have, I would assume, a team's match because. It seems there's going to be a tag match on night one, right? Maybe and then Corey and, or Cody and Roman on night two. Maybe. And maybe then Rock has respect for Cody the next day and helps Roman out. Who helps Cody be Roman? Who knows? Either way.

And then, yeah, I thought the elimination chamber itself, I'll tell you, I know that probably either three or four years ago, probably, especially during all the height of the controversy, what are you talking about? When it comes to wrestling, when it comes to wrestling, I'm a Logan Paul fan. Yeah. I'm going to come to wrestling. When it comes to wrestling, if you tell me, you can't respect, but this guy has this guy has picked up wrestling faster than most of the main wrestlers have 100% of all time like

there's no how fast he picked this up he's a natural athlete yeah and not i'm not just talking about the in ring stuff he knows how to pull up heel the only thing i want him to stop doing is stop shaking hands when he's walking to the ring he shakes people's hands on the it's a brand thing i think but yeah i know but he's shaking he's shaking people's hands like are you bad guy you're not a bad guy but he but dude he's he he gets the heat that he's supposed to get yep and it's not just like you know as they say x-box heat or whatever too yeah and i love x-box that's just the term um and it's it's the yeah i he's he's he's a star he's a star and i was kind of secretly kind of going that he was going to win i knew he wouldn't yeah yeah but i thought that drew mackintyre for the long time because

i used to because aaron mutual friend yeah i don't turn it right yeah talk about how he was like the big star and I'm like, he's a dud. He's a dud. And they never got him over there they wanted to. Never. Turning him heel was the best thing because now I think he's a star. Yeah. The story he's telling now, that I understood why he won't.

He's eviscerating everybody on social media. Most of all, CM Punk, and he should send CM Punk a Buck and gift basket for giving him material to go after him for it because it's been great to see that. But yeah, his in-ring product, since Clash at the Castle, I've been a Drew McIriter fan, even though

I think he's kind of dopey at times of some of his moves because he's a big dude. But he has earned this moment. He's earned this spot. So I'm looking forward to him and Rawls. And the social media battle between those guys is going to be off the charts. So overall, I mean, I really thought it was a good. Even the pre, even the women's tag match in the pre show, I thought was pretty good. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. I want to say this with Logan Paul. You're absolutely right, dude. The Logan Paul fight with him and Kevin Owens inside the James. That was awesome. And him taking the spear from Bobby, good night, man. Good night. That was incredible.

I got nothing. When it comes to wrestling, I got nothing but respect for that kid. Yeah. I got nothing about respect for him. He has put, he put his money where his mouth is. Yeah. Or whatever, vice versa. Mouthwood, whatever the hell of it goes.

But he is so, he is, he is, he's really good. But I, my favorite part of the whole elimination chamber was I watched it with my six and a half year old. She was invested. We took breaks, obviously, because it was. in Australia. They did the thing. So we were able to take like our breaks and we went to got some food. We did some stuff. We watched like hour and hour hour and a half intervals. And she's a she's a, she's a rear Ripley fan. She is a, she is a Becky Lynch fan. And she was like, she was really,

it was funny because she's watching the men's elimination. She's like, this one's longer. I like the women's one much better. It's funny. Yeah, the woman was good. Tiffany Stratton is a, is a star in the making. And she showed up. Yeah, time in that women's. Elimination Chamber match. I thought Liv acquitted herself well, and I've never been the biggest Liv fan. I thought she wrestled really well. And so at the end,

they telegraphed the Becky thing from the WrestleMania press conference, but it still worked. It worked. That's quality. Yeah, it worked. So it was, it was a good, I thought it was a really good event.

It was entertaining as a good buildup to mania. So for the wrestling fans out there, give your thoughts on it. What do you think? We're going to see, we're talking about Dune before. We know Dune's going to be the overall winner of box office this week.

We know that. I don't think it's going to be a surprise to anybody. But I think this was a surprise. Bob Marley just made another, I think it made a total of 100 million, I think, thus far. So this week, weekend, rather. Bob Marley was 13.5 million on its, what, the second or third week, I think. So that's pretty good. Demon Slayer, I don't know what that is, 11.6.

I don't even know what that is. Oh, I don't know what demon slay. That is. Ordinary Angels made 6.5. Madame Webb made six point, no, just made six, and migration with three, finally knocking Wonka out of the top five, but Bob Marley thus far, 120 million so far, and 120 million dollars. I mean, that's really good for that movie.

And then Madame Webb is a disaster, 77 million so far worldwide. So, I don't know what Demon Slayer is. It's an anime. Oh, that's what it is. Okay, okay, 28 million to me. And I got it. Okay, Demon Slayer, Kmitzhu Nojava to the Hashira training. Okay.

So, obviously, a lot of people know what it is and wanted to see it. Yeah. Ordinary Angels was the Hillary Swank, Alan Richardson movie. I don't know how much that cost to make, but 6.5 is what it made. So, yeah, I think that, John, what you're, I mean, you saw, I heard your thoughts on Hot Mike on Bob Marley. I think we're on the same page that it's like, it's, good, not great. Yeah, it's good, not great. I really went in worried that it was not going to be

an enjoyable biopic, but it was very enjoyable. And now, did they skirt a lot of the drama and tension in Bob Marley's life, a lot of the issues that he had with his wife and issues he had outside the political stuff? Yeah, they kind of skirted around the edges of it. Didn't dive too deep into it. I would have liked more time with a lot of these ancillary characters that they had, the ensemble characters. But overall, the performance here from Kingsley Benadier and LaShauna to lynch to a lesser extent because they give her less to do. These are the reasons to go see the movie. They're both fantastic in the

film and they still hit the emotional beast that they're supposed to hit with the biopic. So you forgive some of its shortcomings because overall it's an enjoyable experience. Yeah, if I'm that studio, I'm pretty happy with we're going to put it out in January at one

point and they went up putting in a in February. They initially did it. They probably thought, oh, we're only against a comic, but movie we're going to be in trouble. Well, little did they know, you know, the biggest stinker in a while. So they made the right move. So it's going to have its last run.

This, you know, probably drop significantly this week with June. Everything, get out of the way of June. But it's, yeah, it's done really, really well. I think that June probably, like, opening weekend for June, what do you want to predict for June opening weekend? Oh, I see people saying 85. Do you

think 85? I think you're doing, I think 7. I say, 125, 150. That's what I say. You're out of your mind. I know I am. Your mind. I don't think it's, I don't know, I think it's pretty crazy. 125, I don't know.

I think between 75, I think 75, between 75 and 80, if it hit 80, I wouldn't be surprised. But like, it's, it's still, I still think it's, you know, more people are going to want to see it, but I still think it's more niche sci-fi than it's like, than it is the big grand blockbuster they want it to be. And remember, Aquaman, which part two, and part one, we're part one. Part one, we'd probably better when to use, which made a billion dollars, only made like 65 million this opening weekend. Yeah, yeah, true. Head legs. Yeah, head legs. I still think, I would say 75, yeah, 70.

I'll go right near it. I'll say 78 million. Okay, okay. And you're going to say 120. I say 120. I mean, 100 probably more logically, but 120 is me pie in the sky type of thing because of word of mouth and people excitement over it. Yeah. You're talking domestic here.

Yeah, yeah, domestic. You look at Oppenheimer. I mean, Oppenheimer came out, and it made almost a billion dollars. That's a three-hour, heady piece. So why wouldn't something with action and cinematography and huge battle sequences, why would, there's enough boom, boom there in that whole film. I know. To balance out the more talky scenes.

So I think there's a lot to. I think going for it. I think Oppenheimer had the benefit of the Barbie thing. That was, that's part of it. I also think like a social media. be a thing yeah yeah i think that not not skill wise but i think name wise i think no one's a much bigger name than than he is yeah um and um and i think that the well timothy chalmay pretty bad this star is star stud cast so yeah yeah not not really much you could probably make the same argument

but i i just think that it's it's just so dense it's it's a dense film um not that oppenheimer wasn't you think dune two is a dense film yeah I think it's a wrestling film. There's a good faction and a bad faction, and Vince, you know, use another name, fine, was behind the thing. And so it's like, okay, you find out what's going on and they battle to see who gets the title.

I think it's, he lays it out. I'm not using dense as a negative thing. Oh, I know you know. I know you know. But I definitely think it's, I think it's, yeah, I think it's dense. And I think that it's, you know,

I wanted to be paying attention. think that if you don't pay attention to a lot of stuff that's going on there you're going to be you'd be like what so i think it needs to be paid attention to and i think um but either way i would yes you're going you're going you're going 120 i'm going uh i'm and i this is one that i i definitely want to be wrong about i hope i hope it like just exceeds expectations and it does in a tremendous amount so we'll see um okay we're going to move on to the next uh topic here which there's quite a few other ones that I saw that popped up on

Dark Horizons. Okay. Oh, you know, there's actually, let's go back to Dune for a second because a new story from the Denis Villeneuve just talked about. There's a statement that he just made that I want to, I'm going to read, hold on, this is from Deney.

And they said that one of the most acclaimed directors is Dark Horizons. Deneve Villanou is known for his often stunning and incredibly cinematic shot compositions. He's also a champion of the moviegoing experience a man who understands the importance of big-screen visuals and that a film itself is primarily a visual storytelling medium. In a recent interview with the Times of London, he took to task the Hollywood industry approach to film these days, saying that movies have been corrupted by television.

He explains that films should be more ambitious and experimental and primarily driven by the visuals. In fact, he'd do a film dialogue free if he could. He said, frankly, I hate dialogue. Dialogue is for theater and television. I don't remember movies because of a good line. I remember movies because of a strong image. I'm not interested in dialogue at all. Pure image and sound, that is the power of cinema, but it is something not obvious when you watch movies today. Movies have been corrupted by television.

In a perfect world, I'd make a compelling movie that doesn't feel like an experiment, but does not have a single word in it either. People would leave the cinema and say, wait, there was no dialogue, but they won't feel the lack. While he might be down on the industry, he's not down on younger audiences. Talking about the decision to split his adaptation of the first June novel, into two parts. He said younger audiences today are craving meaningful content

and have no issue with longer films. He said, I trust the audience. This story is too dense. I would never make Dune as one movie. This was the only way I could succeed. Also, think of Oppenheimer. It is a three-hour rated R movie about nuclear physics

that is mostly talking. That's dense. But the public was young. That was the movie of the year by far for my kids. There was a trend. The youth love to watch long movies because if they pay they want to see something substantial they're craving meaningful content so i absolutely love these comments what's hilarious though is if you read the first the first part of those comments you'd think that that was michael bay talking when he's like i would

never do dialogue and he's a because i don't take it i understand what he's saying but he does dialogue so well right and his and when his when his characters are talking it's so meaningful and i'm so locked into it that I'm like yeah maybe you don't love it but you do it good so I'm not going to take too much with what you're saying here when I take this a little with a grain of salt because I get what you're trying to say but you know how to use dialogue you use it masterfully you play you you define your characters so I'll give you the pass on saying that because everything else you said was absolutely magnificent he's right he's right that you know there is something about television that takes away there is a reason that when you go there the spectacle of it if you do it the right

way that you should be you should always kind of take a swing when you're going for these films and and i think his his um the way that he breaks down the three-hour film the oppenheimer of it all the young audience and having substance to it now you can do like there's certain movies like i don't think and i like the movie way more than you did but killers of flower moon right or or napoleon or those are movies the killers of flower moon is a three hour 40 minute movie but you're not allowed to ask how come no one came to see this right right no no no good people get upset if you ask that question yeah it's it i went i'm a scorsese nut right like go and i'm and i'm and i'm i want to go see it but like i was feeling like i was feeling it like i was feeling it i was like where's the tushy

at 340 at this point and but like it's either those are some of certain movies you got to take your time with but i love denies comments here about you yeah the first part i think is ridiculous but look he's got a right to feel how he wants to feel about it him saying no one remembers movies for the quotes is nonsense. We've been quote in movies since the 1920s, the 1910s, for God's sake. So give me a break. That's nonsense. But the other stuff, I think, is an interesting point.

I think he's right. And too many people and too many analysts on here, too many pundits, want to discount the younger audiences as, you know, they just want things, just because they're watching TikTok or they're watching way back when, what was it, the V1, that we were six seconds, whatever that was called. Yeah, Vine, right, Vine. and right, Vine. Just because they have short attention spans for things like that on their phones and social media, it does not mean they don't want to enjoy content that is of longer

form that has something to say that is that sparks their interest. You've just got to make an interesting film. And that's the difference. I see people all the time. I see people in the chat going, we don't need three hour movies anymore. Nonsense. You do when they're done well. Because that's been the history of films for decades. We've seen three hour films for decades that have been. some of the greatest films we've ever seen because they're done really, really well. Yeah, I agree with you. Killers of the Fly Moon, well, I don't agree with you,

but you're right in assessing that I wasn't the biggest fan of it. But look at fucking John Wick 4. That's a two hour and 45 minute film that is just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, but it keeps your attention because the way it's constructed as well. Well, Killers of the Flan Moon kept my attention. There's no bad.

And so it just, and I'll tell you, as much as I like John Wick for it, that movie felt a little long. Like, there's some movies that feel a little long, And you could probably cut him down a little bit too. I did not feel that with you. I didn't know, right. When it was done, I wanted more, Christian.

100%. And there was a point in the movie where it was, I think it was almost like two hours in. And I'm like, because I didn't know the runtime. I know. Yeah. And I'm going, this movie has to be three hours long. I'm like, it has to be.

I'm like, because if it ends now, I'm going to feel cheated. I'm in a matter of 10, 15 minutes. It just can. And they didn't. They spent another hour with it. You're like, okay, they needed to do that. And it's just a great rhythm. That's why I don't agree with his comments on the dialogue and stuff too.

He uses dialogue so wonderful. What's Sicario with that dialogue? It would work. Yeah, maybe this doesn't. You know, I guess I can't say I disagree with his take that he doesn't like it. Yeah. But I disagree with the fact that he doesn't, you just have to have visuals because not everybody can do what he does. And that's why I brought up Michael Bay.

Right. You just have things blowing up on screen and doing these other things. And it's like, it's just a visual. It's just cotton candy. And it's like, that's what happens. That's what happened to a lot of these Marvel films recently. It's just the same paint by numbers. Look, big superheroes fighting and CGI.

Yay. And it's like, it's not, it's not that you got to have something behind it. Again, Godzilla minus one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. Dialogue. Exactly. I mean, you know what's so funny about that movie is you know that the thing I loved about Avatar too is there's a moment in the beginning where Jake tells everybody that the reason

why you're going to basically, he doesn't say it like this, but essentially what he's saying is the reason to The reason why you're going to hear English for the rest of it is because to him, all the Navi stuff, he hears it so much. It's like he's hearing English. Right. That's how I felt with Godzilla minus one. I started reading the subtitles. If you told me I saw that film in English, I would have believed you. Yeah, right.

You could have so invested that I read everything and didn't lose it for a second. I was so invested. You could have told me everything. It was like I was if I was hearing it all and as if I knew Japanese. Like, it was crazy. So anyway, um, There was some kind of audibles here, by the way, and we're going to get to one more story. Okay.

And then we're going to go to the questions. So I see people who have thrown in questions again. If you didn't throw in your super chats, we're going to get to them. As soon as we're done with this last topic, we're going to go through all of them. So we'll be here until the very last one. So anything you want to talk to, John and I, if we didn't cover anything, if there's any other questions you want to ask us, throw them in now. So the Thunderbolts, this movie, they've been talking about this thing forever. It's been so many different, what's happening with it?

When's it going to happen? Is it going to happen? Delays, delays, delays. Well, guess what? Marvel's Thunderbolts begins filming. No way. I don't believe it. I know. Appearing at the official June 2 premiere on Sunday night, Florence Pugh confirmed that filming has begun on Thunderbolts. She was talking to entertainment tonight. She said, I've just started my next movie. My next Marvel movie, Thunderbolts. I've been shooting that. Pew reprises her role of Yelena Belover, which she played in Black Widow and three episodes of Hawkeye. The project, which sees a group of anti-heroes teaming up, was originally scheduled to begin in mid-June and last for six months. However, the strikes led to filming being pushed back to its newer date. Filming is taking place in Atlanta, Utah, and New York, and is expected to run into July.

Team also includes Sebastian Stan, Wyatt Russell, David Harbor, Olga Corleyenko, Hannah John Kamen, and Julia Louise Dreyfus as Valentina Allegra de Fontaine. also on board harrison ford uh lewis pullman and others a film is being directed by jake shriar with a script from joanna calo leis sung jinn and eric pearson thunderbolts is set for may twenty twenty twenty five so john you don't believe it no i don't believe it i don't believe the thing it no this is this is all a ruse to trick you into thinking that this movie's going to happen yeah um they're going to start shooting it and then all of a sudden delays are going to happen and they're never going to release it they're going to do it a tax write off for this movie. There's never been seen. Yeah, I don't know about that one. I think that once they actually do start filming, Marvel seems to get it done. It's a matter of, now, Blade, if Blade's ever going to happen, who knows? I don't know if Blade's ever going to happen either. Blade is like

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yes i'll watch it but if i have to pay for it no i won't it'll be on youtube eventually that's where that's where i watch a lot of these things like if i don't care about them like i i what happened AEW, man? Just kind of took a dump, huh? Dude, as soon as Cody went over there and exploded, it were kind of on the ropes, then punk left and exploded. Now they're like just clamoring about how great they are in the ring.

And it's fine that they're great in the ring. And they're getting decent ratings, but no one's talking about AEW that. W. Yeah, I saw some clips of people getting dumped on their heads and like this are some. Oh, yeah, the Deanna Parazzo with Madison Rain. Yeah, that was. And you hear that Mercedes Monet wants to go there.

I'm like, how would you watch that clip and not go, you know what? I'm not coming. You have much more to lose with a mistake like that. Well, here's two questions for you with that. Yeah. First of all, they're going to give her the belt. They're going to give her a lot of money. And then she'll go back to the WWE in about a year.

100%. Is Paige going to go back to the WWE? No. No. They won't clear her. Edge is never going back either. If they do, they go back for like a royal rumble or something after they've retired. But no way, because WWE does.

not want to take a chance on their physical necks, and they just don't want the insurance. They took the risk on Daniel Bryant. They did when he came back initially, but then they started to limit him and didn't want him to wrestle that much. That's why Daniel went to AEW. I see. Okay. All right, Mike Joyce, I saw a TikTok of someone proposing to his girlfriend with a ring on

house. What's the strangest way you've heard of seeing someone propose? I mean, you can just go down the rabbit hole on the one that I, the one that I like the best. The one I actually really liked a lot was that one, that one viral, that Bruno Mars song. And they had, they put, he put the woman on the back of his, on the back of the car, and then he put the headphones on her and he did like the whole dance to the, to the song. Do you ever see that one? No, no, I haven't seen that one. It was really, really good. That's cool. Yeah, it was really, I mean, I don't know, it was the strangest ways. It was most,

one of the most creative ways. Yeah, the strangest ways, I think was in, I saw one, remember when the woman turned him down at the baseball game? She was, was like, super freaked out that he asked her in public. I mean, Lily made it very clear. She was like, don't you fucking dare do it during a shmodeon event. Don't you dare? She thought I would do it at the retirement that I was going to get on my knee. Do you think about it?

Of course I thought about it. But, you know, if you've never seen her with those fire in her eyes, man, you don't want to cross that line. I did. Understood. Understood. Jacob Pinchin. What? The F happened to the pizza.

He's got me cravings so much. I'm taking your trip to NYNLA. Any suggestion for best pizza? Well, as far as the pizza reviews, well, two things happen. Okay. One, my cholesterol happened. Like, it was like, the doctor was like, cut it out. And so I'm one of these reasons I went on this diet.

So I just wouldn't die for this show. That's really where it came down to. I just couldn't, in order to put the end, well, there's three reasons, I guess. Two is that it took a good, it combines reason two, combines a reason three. It takes a good two, three hours out of the day to do because I got to drive to the place. I got to get Brett there. I got to get Frank there and we got to do it. And it's got to be worth it.

And the problem was they were only doing five to six thousand views. And it just doesn't justify me taking time out of the work to do more. So to answer you know what I will say is Joe's is lucky. Joe's is lucky that I did that review with them when I did it because their quality and the one in Beverly Hills has gone down. Oh, no. Yeah, I went recently. The last three times I've gone have not been good. The last time I went that was good was actually the time I went with Frank.

The one I went to recently, it was bad. It was a real bad. My little one was like, I don't want this. I was like, wow. So right now, I'd say that prime pizza is really good. good um prince street if you get it hot is really good um probably apollonia is really good vdos is okay veto isn't bad um those are the ones that i would say try and as far as new york goes go to the prince street pizza in in the city and i mean there's tons of what i would just

recommend also going for new york ones check out port nice stuff in new york he's got he he's got all the spots that like he he knows these spots to go to um and there's a lot of it there's one actually that he recommended in garden city in long island that i went to oh oh it was so good so good so that's uh that's what happened okay uh mike choice what show movie totally changed the way you you thought about an actor watching what's asap for the and now always sunny in philadelphia oh oh okay um i would tell you that i'm going to give you a recent one Okay. Josh Hartnett in Oppenheimer.

Yeah. I always thought, I thought he was okay in that, and he was, he was fine in Blackhawk down. He was fine in that, uh, in that 30 days a night or whatever, too. I never watched Penny Dreadful, but he was fantastic in Oppenheim. Yeah. Fantastic. So I'm going to, I'm going to say him.

What about you? Yeah, two of them. I would say, I agree with you with Hartnet, although I had seen Penny Dreadful. This was like a next leveling up for Hartnet, which I thought was great. And Crumholtz in that movie I thought was stellar as well. well, who I'd enjoy as an actor, but I'd never seen him kind of age into the warmth, friendship, older character actor type of vibe. So I hope I see more from him.

For me, it's Jennifer Connolly, who I thought was kind of a lightweight actress until I saw Requiem for a dream. And then I was like, what is this? And she has been on, you know, just an incredible ride ever since as an actress. So that's one I would throw out there for sure. All right. Weakest BP nom this year. What's that? What's BP Nom?

Oh, best picture nomination? Oh, okay, there we go. I'm not good at these abbreviations. My mother-in-law does the abbreviations all the time. Just spell it out, will you? Those words. I need, I have to see it before I can say it was a weak nom. I just haven't, I haven't seen it.

So I don't know. So we get best picture nominally to the ones that are nominated? What's a shoot, I don't know which ones are nominated. You're looking it up right now, John? Yeah, I'm looking up right now. I mean, I don't know. Let's see here. Do they have it here?

I'm on the Oscars. Well, here we go. So American Fiction Anatomy of a Fall, Barbie, the holdovers, killers of the flower moon, Meistro, Oppenheimer, past lives, poor things, zone of interest. I think it's, for me, it's between Maestro and Killers of the Flower Moon, but probably Maestro

is the weakest overall of those. And not saying that it's a weak film, but of those, I think it's the weakest one. Not because I don't think it's a good movie. The best picture, past lives, that was good. I don't think it's best picture. I don't think it's the best picture. I think good performances, good story, but best picture.

I would say that one. And then I'm not, I mean, it's hard for me to say because like, Barbie to me is a minute. I knew you were going there. But I would take Meisha out before I take Barbie out. Yeah, 100%. Right? Yes.

Because even though I didn't love Barbie, I have to acknowledge it. It's a very well-made film. I think directing wise, it's just the story to me was just a little all over the place for a lot of it. but but I understand how that would get nominated. So I would say out of the, I'd say that out of the two past lives my first one that I would take out, but I can't say weakest. I just would say that there's no,

there's no world what I would vote for it. Right. There's no world I'd vote for it. But yeah, and then I haven't seen zone interest, so I don't know. It's a rough one, man. Yeah, it's a rough one.

That's why it's going to be hard for me to watch. Yeah. Al, Rensha, Sam Jackson said in an Empire article that he wants a Disney plus Mace Wind is serious. You know for everything. We will see Mace again. I say this lovingly. I hope not.

I hope not either, but I hope there's no reason for it. I mean, if it's a flashback scene and they deage him when he's sitting on the council or something, he's not running around. He's just sitting there and they deage him for a little bit and he's, and he has a scene with somebody in like a,

you know, a clone war scene. Sure. Why not? But if they bring him back again. Yeah. And it's like, oh, no,

he lived. Well, where was he? You know, where was he's recovering for that long? It's like, no, I, I hope not.

He's been talking about how you want it for a bit. I don't think it'll ever happen. I don't think it should. Come here. Come here. I'm going to show you the secret invasion ratings, and you tell me if there should be a Mace Windu, Disney podcast series.

Cut it out. No, the time has passed. He's too long in the tooth. You can have him show up, but doing a series, that makes no sense at all. Much love to Sam Jackson, much love to that character.

But it's always rubbed me the wrong way, Christian, that he got himself, his own personal lightsaber color. That guy's never liked that. But, you know, it didn't bother me as much. but let's see martinus jerkus uh hey huge fans in sclyde alive thanks man any thoughts on sag awards winners this past weekend keep up the great work i will say that it's very similar to uh elimination chamber

for the most part yeah for the most part um i think the lily gladstone side of it it's going to show you oh and and uh killiam murphy i think that because those two won it makes the awesome a little bit more interesting. Yeah. Because now you don't know who's going to get it. Right. Because they've split awards here and there a lot of time. If Emma Stone would have won and Paul Giammati would have won,

you'd be like, it's a lock. It's over. It's over. Right. But a lot of these people who are voting in SAG, a lot of them, are some of the same peers that vote in the Oscars. So this might have changed it up a little bit. So I think that it was, those are the ones that stood out to me.

and the Pedro Pascall win for Last of a lot. That was big. I didn't, especially when he beat the entire cast of succession. Yeah, yeah. And I thought Nick Offerman's win for his episode of last to us, I thought was great.

And what he had to say, I thought was fantastic as well. But yes, overall pretty predictable stuff. I don't know, man, people get so passionate about this stuff. They get so crazy about this stuff.

Maybe I've just gotten older and I don't really like go crazy about who wins you who does in terms of the. I read it moved on. I read it. Yeah. And some people have been saying the Oscars need to happen earlier in the year. I'm kind of in the same boat. Like, why are we doing this in the middle of March?

Like, we're already focusing on 2020. That's good point, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Let's go. Yeah. Well, the reason why they do it as you as well as you know is because they want to get people because now that the nominations come out and then they can put a re-release of the movies on.

Now that, oh, I want to see that. It was nominated and they hope that it's going to do a little bit more business. And a lot of times it does. But I mean, like, yeah, I'm with you. Cap it at the end of January. Yeah. You know, we got to move on. That's it.

I agree, but they're never going to do that. No. Let's see. How many parties to put on? It's 100%. Chris Minor. Harlow Farlofaroca, amazing race team. We both drop dead within 10 minutes.

Yeah, absolutely. Or we kill each other. Either one was the way it would work. Both, yeah. Two hours. David Reese, my damn web is a stink bomb. What about an Aunt May movie? Schnepp's reaction to that news on the old AMC channel's layers.

It was the absolute best. I think it was like an actual. So what the story was, I think was there was a report. There was going to be an Ant May movie. And him and Ellis kind of just like ripped on it forever. And it became like this really funny, funny bit where, you know, it's, I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to try to do it again because they don't know what they're doing over there. Brut, they hinted at something like that with Sally Field in the Amazing Spider-Man movies.

There was more going on here with Ant May than you think. And so. That might have been where it stem from, I think. Yeah. I liked the Lily Tomlin approach to it in the Spider-Man. reverse thing, that's great for that, for what it was. But in no way should they do an on May movie. No, no. Carlton Rudder, what's up, man? Pumped for June 2, are there politics in June 2 portrayed in the same riveting way they were in Andor? Unfortunately,

release days for next year's Oscars. Yeah, I released date for next year's Oscars. Yeah, it's true because well, it was supposed to come out in November, the beginning of November of last year. And I think that that was because they were taking a crack at the Oscars for sure it's going to be a long road to get there because we're in march in order to get to so it's going to be tough i think that it'll be nominated for a handful of things but visual effects and those i hope i hope that it's able to actually you know hit the big ones because i think it deserves the best picture nom for sure um now as far as policy yeah tons of politics in dune two and it's that's part of the density i thought that comes into it because it's the whole thing and and it it almost

plays, it's funny that he said that about TV because it almost plays, as I mentioned, Game of Thrones. Like, you'll be following a storyline for a bit. And then you won't see those characters for a while because you're focusing on another portion of people that you want to set up their things and their politics and what they're. And that worked for me. So I think it's handled very well. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that. Yeah, the politics are handled really well overall with that film. And so, yeah, if you're going in for that aspect of it, it's done done really well. Yeah. Uh, next Pete Parker 2288. Any chance of getting Finstock on a Monday show at Roka

or any show, period. Any favorite Finstock moments for you and Roka? So Finstock on, you got to be able to find him. Yeah, I haven't seen him since the Schmodown ended, bro. He's been golfing, dude. He's been golfing nonstop and he's running his walkie-talkie business, but that's all he's got. Those two things, he's, it's golfing and playing.

I'll text him anytime he's like Stallone News, and he always writes me back on that. But that's really that's really that's really it's for so as far as getting on shows. We were doing those live streams on the other channel before I switched it to the full Shmodown channel. I was supposed to do something with him, Kate, Roxy and JT. and every time I can never get them all in the same room. I mean, I've tried like 20 different times to get them all in the same room.

They're all busy. Right. So, um, hard. But as far as my favorite Finstock moment for me, I'll tell you right now, was his match against Nost. Oh my God. It is the funniest portion of any show ever. Like he messes up.

he calls it chasik bosman or chavik bosman but then after we don't give it to him he tries to like grab the whiteboard and it nails in the air and falls and i just lose it it's the funniest moment but uh any moments for you that stand that with uh with that well anytime he's shirtless it always stands out always ever yeah his man the manager bowl when he won in orlando nobody saw that coming his reaction that was a great moment and honestly a lot of quiet moments between him and him and I during the final year of that I was on the show. A lot of great conversations in Finstock and I that I very much appreciate it. So those are private ones.

But yeah, the manager ball is the one. That's the one. No one saw that coming. Nobody saw that coming for sure. Elipsis 10. FYI, the original Dune book, Trilogy consists of Dune Part 1 and Part 2, Messiah. Is that what I said? Did I say Messiah before?

I think you said prophecy or something. Oh, prophecy. It's Messiah. Okay. So finally, I got it now finally I get a right it's Messiah and I'm promising and children of Dune there's a 3,500 year jump into the fourth I hope dene goes beyond the second until so it's not going to be 35 year jump for Messiah is I think no no no to children of Dune right yeah right and then I wonder and then you're

going to have the the Benny Jesuits series right that's going to be pretty great too yeah Angry City thank you for that by the so I got to remember it's Messiah not prophecy dumbass I'm sorry myself angry city thoughts on bad batch going closer explaining Snoke with its latest episodes. Spoiler. Thanks for the spoiler. Yeah. Thanks for the spoiler.

Do you think this will help the brand by bringing up sequel elements? So I guess they explain Snow. Not really. They just explained the, I think they're off. Okay. So I- They connect with the Palpatine. That's what I'll say.

Okay. Well, I talked about this last week is Mike and Steph and I, which we did Sith Council forever. We started the show because it was Sith Council. We all looked at each other. and said, oh yeah, Bad Batch debuted. Not one of us watched a single episode. And then I'd have all, I guess, eight episodes sitting in my inbox for four weeks.

I haven't touched it. I watched part one, the first episode on Saturday, after I put my daughter to sleep and we had finished Elimination Chamber, I watched it was good. Yeah. First episode, not bad. And like I said, I enjoyed it. I'm just not excited about it, but I thought it was a good episode. first three episodes of the new season are excellent.

And they kind of realized like, okay, we need to make it just like the end of the second season. Stakes high, great action, good dialogue, and fantastic voiceover performances and real emotion. And I think they nailed it in the first three episodes. I just hate that they have to find a way to explain the sequel trilogy and connect things up and make this lazy writing. They have to now work really hard to validate that lazy writing for terrible. or terrible stuff that happened in the sequel trilogy, like the Palpatine clone nonsense, and you have to make it work.

And it's frustrating to see that. I'm like, there are other stories I want you to tell that doesn't validate the sequel trilogy, you know? Al Rensha, minus one is the best human story ever in Kaiju film. It's, I would probably have to agree with you on that. It's the most invested I've ever been in a Godzilla movie. I've always liked them, but it's the most invested. Like it was, like I said, if you would have told me,

it wasn't on my most anticipated list. And if you were totally, it was going to be my number one. Like, like I said, it's my favorite movie. I don't think it was the best movie, but my favorite movie of that of last year. And if you would have told me that that was going to be my number one, I almost didn't even see it. It was like, because Ed Harold. Ed kept telling me, he's like, dude, it's pretty good. And I'm like, all right, we'll go check it out.

Fine. Why not? And it took my daughter to see it. I took Vivian to see it. And we just both were like, that's a good movie. It's just a good movie. And I went, you know, I didn't go to the screening. I said no to the screening.

I didn't think I was going to care. And I was wrong. I was so glad I was wrong. In the same way, like, what's funny is that this year, last year, my number one anticipated didn't even make my top 10 list, Indiana Jones. Right. And this year, it's going to be hard for my number one most anticipated movie to not be my number one movie.

Right. June 2. So I don't know. All right, let's see. Elusive Rock. Can't stop watching Adam Ray as Dr. Phil. It is really funny. You need to get him on the show.

show, have him react to Kalinowski standup. Well, Kalinowski hasn't done it yet. I got to get to, I got to 600 patrons. You guys got to get to get to 600 patrons. And then I'll tell you what, if you get to 600 patrons, then I'll get Adam on to react to Kalanowski standup. June 2 versus... I'll be front row for that.

Yeah, for sure. Kalnowski for standoff. Front row. You got, everybody would. Everybody would. If I, what we got to do is you get to get 600 paid patrons and then Mike's going to do five minutes. I'll, I'll broadcast it live. I'll do all of it. I'll do all of it.

Just got to get you guys to 600 patrons. So it's Patreon.com slash the big thing, big thing show. Dune 2 versus Deadpool and Wolverine. Who wins the 2024 box office? Deadpool Wolverine. You can't you, you've, this is where and as much like, you're telling me that I should trust a film from Sean Levy

over a film from Denisville and New. No, Marvel. To win the best, uh, actually no, actually don't because if you, because if you pick the other one, it means that I'm going to win my bet hands down we're going to steak or maybe it's sushi i go dune too i think

dune two wins the 2024 box office no way okay and they might not me either one of them might not win because this if despicable me is decent oh right good point yeah yeah it's something we don't even see coming right or joker too could be the one that broke it we don't know the musical side of that's gonna it's gonna turn people away um but yeah as far as adam ray goes i've been back and forth of them I'm getting him back on. So I just, I haven't, I haven't actually had them on my channel. So I'll reach out to him for sure. He's, he's blowing up right now, though, too, and I'm happy for him.

Eric Kirby, Mr. Roku, whenever you guys get a chance, can the geek buddies, please, please, please, do a review for Robot Dreams. It's an amazing movie. It has heart. Eric, it's very nice, but at this point, man, we have to be ruthless. We have to look at things that are going to get views as we're still building the show. So I don't know that Robot Dreams has a massive audience for us to review it. But if we ever start the Patreon,

on little things like that, I think we will do privately for anybody who might be into those. But it's very kind of you to ask, Eric. Thank you. Yeah. Okay, Tim Sim, dropping this here to take a look later as I'm busy right now. Thank you, Tim. If given the choice of more Dune content at the expense of no Star Wars, Marvel, and D.C., would you take it? Hope you all are doing good.

Loaded question. Loaded, very. Load a question. Now, if you're telling me that Deneve-Lanube is going to be the director-slash-executive producer slash Kevin Feige of the Dune universe moving forward, I'd be tempted. I'd be tempted. If it's, he's just doing those moving on, we're giving it to other people, probably not. But, you know, it's the same way that you look at like, look at Peter Jackson did with the Lord of the Rings films, didn't have as much success with The Hobbit, but then they gave the Amazon,

they didn't even talk to him about the Amazon series and then look at that. So, so that's where I would, I would say it just depends on what is presented. But I think that if Apple actually does buy Disney as, as rum, I'm hoping that they just gut Lucasfilm and just do a whole new thing and make it and just and take it like what they're doing with and looking at what they could do. And it needs a whole new. It needs a facelift. Star Wars needs a facelift.

It's Star Wars is a disaster right now. It needs an animal. It does. It needs a full facelift. And it needs to be changed. As far as tone, it needs to change so many different directions. And when you look at what something like Avatar did and what Dune's about to do, and you're not looking at that direction,

you're still trying to do this old school mentality stuff, the way they're trying to make Star Wars, it's not working. It's not working. And so I hope it just gets gutted, to be honest with you. Well, I'm not a fan of monopolies on anything. So I would never sacrifice all the franchises for one. So I would never agree to that. So I like the balance of all of them coming up.

But like Christian said, we just need them to be good again. It'd be nice. Yeah. Mallory Garrett, did you see that the Bear season three is dropping the summer? No. No, what? Great news. Where is that?

Thank you, Mallory. Yeah. With the super chat of the day. You win. That's what I can start doing. I got to start giving prizes to the super chat of the day. That'd be good. I think Mallory is going to win that one because the,

the Bear, the Bear season three is dropping this summer. Are you looking at that up right now? It's us weekly. Wow. Minutes ago. Mallory, thank you. That is great. I'm super.

Look at that. That's my most anticipated show the year now. Maybe that and still House of the Dragon are up there. But that's fantastic. Yeah. Wow. All right. All right.

Yeah. There you go. Yeah, June of 2024. There is. Wonderful news. Ryan's Horizon is a big Snyder fan. I hated the way WB handled him and Cavill. I had no interest in gun until Millie Alcock was cast,

has there been in a similar situation where casting has brought you around on a movie. I'm sure the answer to that is yes. It's always hard for me to like, it's like one of these ones where at the end of the show, I'll start, I should have answered that person with this. But I can't, I can't remember where castes brought me around.

Like, okay, well, that person was cast. I'm kind of more into it. I'm sure. The answer is yes. I just don't know.

I just don't, I just talk of the top of my head, think about it. do you have one i i can't think of anything yeah i necessarily would have i think but it's a great question i just i just i would need some time to think about it for sure uh bodey ramssey saw dune last night and thought it was incredible a lot of changes from the book dune one or dune two a lot of changes from the book but i thought they served the movie well summer improvements i mean i guess that that could be a testament for either one of the movies sure sure but yeah i mean

yeah that's that's what they got to do that's what they have to do with um with some of the with it's a movie. Yeah. In the TV show, you got more, you have more opportunity to be more, you know, like, like, last of us to be, even though it changed some stuff up, but to be moving more and sing. But when it comes to a movie, you only have so much time. Like, you know, so, uh, okay, here's another one. Peter Parker again, 2288, just bought the 4K Blu-ray collection of Beverly Hills cop, watching them for the first time. It's three really that bad. Yes. Yes.

Yeah, three is, wasn't it PG-13? Yeah, it was PG-G-13. terrible it's terrible i've seen it once and i never see it again um and then the tv show wasn't good either and he hopes for the new one i do i thought the hope i thought that the uh the tv the trailer for the netflix one was actually more on brand of the first two than then you know i i hope a hundred percent dude they had an harder edge to it with the humor mixed in and it didn't feel like a nostalgia grab it felt like they're actually telling you a pretty uh balls out story so i love and i love that tagger and rosewood are back i love yeah it's crazy however tiffany Stratton is already from Bob Skywalker. Yeah, she, she, she held her own. She's going to be,

she's going to be a big star. Wait, wait, you're telling me it's crazy how over a beautiful, blonde, athletic woman who is good at pro wrestling is over with the pro wrestling fans. Of course, she's over because you want to see great talent and you, when you see great talent and it's also gorgeous and beautiful, you're 100% in as a pro wrestling. Well, but her attitude too, dude, her approach to it. Her moxie, she's got a great arrogance about her. too because when I saw her, I was like, who's this? I've seen like a million people that look like her before. Who is this? And I was like, oh, now I know exactly who she is. And like my daughter's like she's cool. Yeah. So like she just did it right. But poor

Naomi though, by the way. Dude, you know the deal. I know. Naomi's got all the talent in the world, got all everything, but for whatever reason, she's never going to be at the Becky Lynch or Charlotte Flare or Sasha Banks level ever. And it's a shame. It's a shame. She's not. I mean, she's, she's good to,

like, get people over, but she's just can't get herself over, unfortunately. So you know who the most controversial figure on our show is, by the way? What? Besides me?

How could it be? Big balls. Johnny, so it's crazy. It's so funny. Like, I almost did a poll the other day because he came on. And there was like,

there's always controversy. It's people who love them and there's people who hate them. I don't want to interview them myself on a, on a show, like go back and forth on the camera and interview him. because people like there's people who absolutely love them and they give the and there's other people go like there's one guy in roxy's comments like christian's got to stop doing that and i just wrote back and i go no and it's just like he he i've never seen a character that we've done on the show causes much controversy as big while maybe maybe fin stock um but like people either love them or hate him if i ask the audience right now that they get rid of him or keep them i bet you it's half and half so many people told me never do it again and people told me never stopped doing it again There you go. All right.

Let's see. Oh, wait, by the way, this is, Joey says it. These genes are genuinely great. He has two pairs. Nice. Tell me, get those genes. A perfect gene. Get them.

All right. Renetta, W. Hey, John, on your show, the Hot Mike, wait, on your show, the hot mic, I love your shows, by the way. I love your take on Daniel Craig as Dr. Doom. I really like that one. What do you think?

So is that, was that a scoop or is that your choice? No, it was a, Jeff was making speculation. And then people took it and ran with it because they want to get clicks and likes for their own shows and whatever. But Jeff just said, Balder the Brave, there was rumors that Daniel Craig was interested in being, there was rumors that there were talks between Marvel and Daniel Craig to play

Thor's half brother there, Balder the Brave, but they didn't, they haven't 100% come through with it. So if that didn't happen, wouldn't it be interesting if maybe they're looking at him for Dr. Dune? The ages are correlative.

That's all Jeff said. He didn't say, from what I hear, Marvel is talking about Dr. Dune. People just ran with that and assumed that. So that's been the issue with that situation. But I love the idea. I did too.

I think it's good. What I saw, I think I saw it on your, did you put it on your as a headline? Yeah, I changed it because, you know, we talk about,

you know, headlines is the way to get it. So I was like, people are talking about it, my own way headline it. Yeah. I saw, I saw that and I said,

yeah, I wasn't sure if it was like a speculation or it was like report. You never know with you guys seen because it could be. It's true. And I look and I was like, that's a good,

because of the age range with, with, I like that choice. I like the choice. Okay, Killers of Flower Moon is from Elipsis 10. The FBI doesn't show up until the two hour mark and for some, that's a flaw of the film. For me, that's the point.

These murders were happening in the open and it took years for the FBI to step in. I mean, I get it. I get that as far as the pacing goes to, but the thing is, like I said, I was on board for it. I was never really, I was never bored but a three hour and 40 minute movie, you can

ask questions of why you didn't get people into the theater. You just can't. And a $200 million budget, you can't. It's just like that's, and especially with a subject matter that is not an easy watch. No, not an easy watch. Like, that was my, my wife, it took my wife three days to watch that movie. She watched it at home, right? And she was just like, she was like, she was like really, it was rough. And the time she was done. Like she, she went, she went through it emotionally because I had seen it already. I wasn't there watching it with her. She was just like, oh, she was a good movie. Could never watch that movie ever again.

Yeah, yeah, 100%. Yeah. So, all right, here's the next one. This is Mike Joyce. You guys excited for the new roadhouse. So I am and I am and I'm not. I am in the fact that it looks awesome. Yeah.

I'm not because I don't know what's going on with this whole Doug Lyman thing. Yeah. Like, it's like, it's weird because it's like, what's the, what's the truth? What's the truth? What's the truth? Damn it. I'm afraid. You want to hear me say it.

I'm afraid. But the first time in my life, I'm afraid. What's wrong? You're human, aren't you? That's right. We have cars. We have house. We have money. Anyway, people are wondering what is... Greatest scene of any Rocky movie ever. That scene on the beach is the number one greatest scene.

When you get so tough, I'm married a fighter. But anyway... It doesn't matter what I tell you. It doesn't matter because you're the one that's going to live with it. It's not Apollo. It's just you. And when they're done chanting your name... Anyway. It's just going to be us. You can't live like this.

You can't live like this. I think you can do it. Paul thinks you can do it. Are you too excited for the new roadhouse? So the answer is the movie itself, yes. I think Connor McGregor looks ridiculous in the best way. In the best way. In the best way.

It looks ridiculous. So over the top and insanely ridiculous. But I can't wait. I do think it should have been a theatrical movie. But if you look at the report, the report was something, and I'm probably quoting this wrong, you probably know better than I do. But it was something along the lines of that they basically,

basically Amazon made a deal with them that said, okay, we will give you either X amount to make the movie. Yeah. And you get a theatrical release or we'll give you more here, but it won't be a theatrical. And you guys can take the money here and do that. And they chose deal two and then complained about it.

So I- That's what bothers me. Doug is lying if that's the truth. Right. Doug is lying about, well, making some kind of phantom stand against Amazon Prime, when he's the one that took the 80 million to do as a streaming as opposed to 60 for theatrical.

So I don't know. So I don't know what the truth is. But the answer, am I excited for the movie itself? Yes. I think it looks great. Simon section. In my universe, Matthew Vaughn has already directed two more layer cake movies, one in Oscar. And Daniel Craig has retired on an island like Bond and no time to die.

Yeah, I know. It's like, can I give like a spoiler to Argyle? I don't know if I can do that for people who. Who fuck's going to watch? Okay, fine. You know what I'll do? I'm going to give a quick spoiler to Argyle. And it's a post-credit scene.

So it's a post-credit scene. I'm going to make so you guys can come back in like four minutes, four minutes. So if you want to see Argyll and you don't care or you do care, you're warned doing a quick spoiler. I put it in the time code. So you can pause it, whatever, four minutes. And I'll wave my hands around like this one. The spoiler's over. All right.

You've been warned. The end. When he relates it to a. another Kingsman movie. Like, first of all, is the most confusing post-credit scene ever. Like, wait, what is that supposed? Wait, you think I'm as invested in this as you, as you are? Like, what are you talking about? I don't know, like, I love the first Kingsman movie. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about here. I don't know what this is. And I don't care. This is related to the Kingsman? Who cares? Like, why is this related to the Kingsman?

Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's so nonsense. And it's no reason. I was like, why are you doing this? You're trying to create this? Like, why can't you let Kingsman go? Like, why is everything have to be averse here? Everything. Yeah. So anyway, all right. So, all right. So, but yeah, I'd like to see him do way more.

I really do like him, but I don't know. Joey Petrus, any plans for New York stand-up live show soon? So the answer to that question is, I might be doing, well, Ellis invited me to do his show for Comic-Con this year, so I'll probably do that. Nice. And then I might be doing something else there. later on in the year depending i'm working on something but as far as the big thing goes and doing it i'm not doing anything outside of l a bit because that new york show dude cost me my ass yeah

oh dude like because the problem is you got to sell out the shows you got to sell them out like if you put the shows the show out the tickets up two months in advance you got to sell out within three weeks if you don't because then you can add another show and if you don't And if you don't, then we sold out like the day of at a 120 seat venue place. That's awesome. Not really because it's awesome. We sold out and it was great. It was a great show.

It was really fun. Problem was had to pay for everybody's flights, had to pay for everybody's hotels, had to pay for certain things, you know, other, other expenses and things too. And, you know, it doesn't, it just doesn't, it doesn't make sense unless it's an end, unless I'm doing like a 500 seat venue, 600 seat venue. And I just don't think that there's enough people. ready to come out for those yet so the that's always the goal that's always the goal because i love doing them this proud of that they were everybody was great it was awesome so i think i'd rather do like outside shows with people and then eventually maybe do another one so um well i just got asked to do a show with jama costa here in los angeles right it's great and i love jamie so much but

he's like he gave me the date and then i'm like oh he's again it's going to be a great show and all this different great, great talent. And he's like, it's 9.30 on a Sunday. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, dude, I'm not you. I'm not 30 years old anymore. I'm the kid's like 32 years old. I'm like, I got, I'm like, it's not my full time gig anymore. Like back when it was my full time gig, I would drive anywhere to do,

to get stage time. And I'm like, Jamie, I love you. But I don't know if I'm going to Burbank at 930 at night. I just on a Sunday. I just don't think I'm going to do it. And you're not going up to like 1130. I went up until like 10, 11 o'clock. It wouldn't be home before one in the morning.

Then I got to start the day all over on Monday. And it's like, it's just not my full time. It's not my, it's not my gig anymore. And I don't have that kind of energy. I just don't. So, yeah, it'd be tough. All right. Al Rensha.

So I'm minus one for the second time. And your friends loved it. That's, yeah. It's a fantastic movie. I can't wait for it to come. Is that on Blu-Rie yet? I don't think yet. I think it's coming soon, though.

I hope it comes out in a fucking 4K. man. Yeah. Lusive Rock makes a good point. Don't forget that everything everywhere all at once came out in March and it did pretty well. You're not wrong, but you know, you're not wrong. It does happen, but it's just hard. Well, Black Panther came out in February. So it's possible. It's going to have to endure a lot to get there. Ben, David, hey, Christian, John, why do you think we don't get great gangster films anymore? I wasn't a fan of the Irishman or many saints in Newark. Yeah, I didn't mind the Irishman. It's, but I understand that it's not like, it's not one that everybody talks about anymore. And many saints in Newark is they, they, I think they dropped the ball. I didn't mind the movie, but I think they dropped the ball on what they, they should have made it a young Tony Soprano story. I mean, the Maltesanti side of it, it means what David Chase wanted to do. And it's fine.

And he didn't even pay attention to a lot of stuff. He even set up in the Soprano story. He kind of retcon some stuff. Yeah. But I didn't mind as much as everyone else did. But, you know what I'm bummed about is that movie that I keep talking, the, De Niro, Catherine Narducci one. And I always say, it's not Sonifeld.

It's Levinson, right? Yeah, Levinson's DeVisselm. I hear that the test screenings aren't good. I know. Levinson's 95 years old. What do you expect? Oh, I know, but I'm just like, I, that, but I don't know the answer to that. I guess it's just a different time. Maybe people aren't, aren't as enamored by it the way they are.

Yeah, I don't think we're resins to it. When we find out that our politicians and the fucking corporate guys are the gangsters, for real, like, we're just kind of not as interested. in it anymore, I think, you know. All right, mad Sinister McHale. Are we ever going to get a room tour? We'd love to see a Blu-ray collection video. Those Blu-rays look beautiful.

Great show. Love the Bruno story. Oh, thanks, man. That Bruno story. Yeah, I was with you when I was a nice story, right? Yeah. So, yeah, I think that what I want to do. I might want to do that.

People have been asking me about that, a tour of the actual studio. But I might do it for Patreon, though. I might do, do like, a full, like, studio thing on Patreon. It's probably where I could do it the most on. So I probably, if people want to, If people want to see that on Patreon, if you guys sign up and if you are signed up, let me know if that's what you want to see.

Maybe I'll do a tour of it. But yeah, that Bruno thing. Someone thought I should sell it on stage. Maybe I will. I don't know. All right, Bob Skywalker, what was your overall thoughts on Elimination Chamber? Saw Dune 2 IMAX last night.

It was amazing. Music was top notch. Dude, the music at the end. Is the score out yet? Oh, I don't know if it's out yet. I'm going to download it. I got it again. The soundtrack was incredible.

Yeah. So we gave our thoughts in elimination chamber earlier. John gave it 8 out of 10. I would probably mimic that. I'd say probably 8, 8.5. I thought it was really well done. I know. There wasn't anything.

Even the teams matches, John said, that was the one I was like, I don't know, you can fast forward through this. I was like, I'll watch it. I thought those guys who, I don't remember their names.

What was it? The something Republic, who were they? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the younger guys, yeah. You don't remember either. So, right. So those guys, I thought they, I thought they fought really well.

I thought it was going to be new. like I said, it was predictable. You knew who was going to win. But it was a good match. And I thought, and I used, Dom's another one. Tom's a great. Oh, my God.

Such a great heel of it. Now, now his gimmick is that the audience boos him so loudly you can't talk. 85,000 people booing him in Australia. Loudish shit. Really great. Yeah. Musty reviews.

What did you think of Rebel Moon? So this is what I said about it. Like, I still haven't finished it. That's part one. Part two is I didn't hate it, but it's not great. It's definitely. missing it's missing that dense the density that we talked about it's missing

the substance to the characters like the Godzilla minus one but I like original IP science fiction there's too much slow motion I know that's his thing but it's too much and you're in the middle of a really good fight and here comes Sophia Boutelle yeah stop just

have a punch what are you doing slow motion but I and I think not making it a rated R movie putting the rated R version out was stupid I think it was stupid. That should have been the first. Then you put the version out that you want first and then put the other one out. So ridiculous, man.

Yeah. So, but I thought it was, I, I, I'm curious. And I thought Ray Fisher was overacting. I thought he was overacting. But other than that, it's like still, I'm interested in the world. I'm interested in part two. And I want to finish the first one. But you liked it more than I did, right?

I did. No, I did. I liked Sophia, who impressed me. I didn't anticipate she'd be able to carry the film because I haven't seen much from her acting. would make me believe that. But I thought she did a really nice job with the film. I thought some of the visuals here were incredible,

the battle sequences were fun. They just did not take enough time assembling the team and letting us get to know each of the characters. And they thought exposition would give you enough. And I thought that's where the film failed. But I loved Anthony Hopkins as that droid. I thought he was great as that droid. And the main, the bad dude, I thought.

Yeah, yeah. Ed Scaran. I thought he was good as well. You're good too. Anthony, anything geeky. When a golfish here. Love the show.

Perfect. I love that. That was one of my favorite bits ever. Haskell 420. The Bear season three and the boys, drop it in June. It's going to be a big June. It's going to be a big June.

Okay. Next one. Musty reviews. What year would you predict a new Justice League movie would release? Should James direct it? Who should the villain be? Hard to say it should James directed because you got to set everything up, too. But if Superman's got to deliver.

Superman has to deliver. Supergirl has to deliver. right and then Batman will deliver so you're looking i'm going to say that justice league shouldn't come out before 2000 and 331 32 okay you got to set it you need at least eight years i agree with you 100 percent 2035 would be my i would go all the way to 10 years from now we would get a judge if you're going to do it right you know so yeah thanks time to lay them all out don't rush though man like you said It's my legacy. Like, just hope that that's good.

Because if that's not good, it's over. It's over. It's over. All right. Let's see. So someone said they muted big balls? Jesus Christ, not big balls again, please. I'm muted every time that squirrel comes on.

The problem is, though, that he's got Xbox heat. Yeah, yeah. But I'm just going to be like, just like what they did back in the day, he's going to get more air time because of it. Right, of course. Like, I love that he gets the heat. It's so I love that they, there are some people who hate him, and there's some people who love them.

And the people who hate him, I love even more. Catboys fan 92. Madam Webb's so sticky that my box office is not sticking my box office. Can't stop the goblin bombs from popping. Fun facts. For you two, the script was drastically rewritten after Dakota signed on. No, I heard that. Yeah, that's what she said.

Listen, I don't believe anybody, anything that anybody says when it comes to this kind of stuff. Because whenever it fails, it's always like, oh, we wrote it. We wrote it. 10 people were involved. But if it had been a success, nobody would be saying we drastically rewrote the script. It's always whenever a film fails. All of a sudden, it's not what I signed on to. It's all brand saving.

Man, bullshit. Tim Sim, just got here and heard the answer to my earlier super chat. So regarding Star Wars, yes, it needs a facelift on the film side and knowing the TV. besides i think it's still doing great post mando season two i don't think it's doing great and the mando season three didn't go over that well um yeah true news is into asoka yeah well osoca kind of and didn't ratings wise didn't do very good i had kind of a major turn on asoka like i really enjoyed episodes one and two and in my and then i love the annikin one and then i and i really like the seventh but then after watching the finale and going back yeah i was really disappointed with that

series actually yeah yeah um more so than in in hindsight because like watching it i i liked it more and then watching it in hindsight it was like yeah it's not it's terribly written it's really guy looks really bad in that in that show and then um obi won obi won was not good um so i still i think the whole damn thing needs a great as and or i think the whole damn thing needs a needs a facelift yeah um but that's me uh let's see next uh let's see i'm try Oh, yeah, there was another one. He was a grown man and he made his own decisions, also from Rocky 3. Very well done.

Very well done. Yeah, she didn't mean anything. Yeah. Saul doesn't agree with us, by the way, that Connor McGregor looked over the top. He says, as opposed to what, his normal personality? That's ironic that Saul said that. That's Saul personality himself, you know? Yes.

I know this takes fresh into a dark place. However, I will pay money to see Big Balls versus Professor Crow. more anticipated than Joe Rogan interviewing Kat Williams hilarious. You know what's funny is that someone that asked me to do the professor crow again. I don't even know how I got there last time. I mean, I remember the stories, obviously,

because it was something that happened to me in college. But I just don't, I just don't know if I can do that character anymore. It was during the S-E-N things. No, I don't have it. Someone asked me if I had a room tour already on Patreon. No,

I haven't done that yet, actually. NLFC 96. Thoughts on Heel Rock and his promo at Salt Lake City. Thought it was classic and his closer spot on. I thought he was great. I thought it was a good, I thought it's, you know,

it's to me a good setup for him to turn in face again. You can't keep the rock with his brand as it is. You can't keep him heel, but I thought it was great the way that he did it and it was good kind of like double Asian type thing. Yeah, it was fine. It was like going to see REO Speedwagon.

No. It was like going to see REO Speedwagon. Yeah. I'm going to get the hits, but the original record sounded better. So, yeah, it's fine. It was fine. He did his thing. He took the sleeves off, so you see his muscles,

and he gave you the Zapruder stuff. But overall, we'll see, we'll see how his next promos do. I'm just looking forward to the next promos. I'll say that. All right. Renetta, I'm so happy about Pedro winning the award, the SAG award for Best Actor. Wholeheartedly deserving of that win.

He was funny as hell. I didn't see the speech, but, yeah, the performance was great. I was surprised. That was one of the big surprises. I mean that when I read it, I don't watch these. It was on Netflix, right? Yeah, it's streamed on Netflix. Wow, that's, that's smart.

Smart. And this is what I'm saying. This is what the Oscars should be on. Yeah, 100%. Get them off network television. I know that Sag was never on network television in the first place. Yeah, they're on TV after TNT rather, yeah. Right.

Smart. Put these things on streaming. Like, let, find your review, find your ratings through that because the, the average person hasn't seen eight out of the, of 10 movies for Best Picture. Yeah, yeah. So put it on streaming. That's what you do for the Oscars from now on.

Get it off ABC. Get it off. Yeah. I said it years ago on Collater Mailbag that people were starting to not care about award shows. You got to put them on streaming because that's where people want to go to see these things. The ones who are hardcore addicts will go find it and watch it. The people who don't want to, casual people aren't watching these award shows anymore,

man. That's why the ratings are in the shit. Yeah. And it's just too much, there's too much politics at these things too. Oh, 100%. Too much. It's like too much. There's certain times that it's called for like obviously if Lily Gladstone wins the award. Right. She should be talking about everything that her people have gone through. Right. Of course.

All that because it's relevant to all of this stuff that especially, you know, and when there's certain awards and certain people when they're saying things, there are certain times that it is relevant. There's certain times when somebody wins and they start talking about something. You're like, what are you doing? Yeah. Yeah. I'm right now. You're talking to you. It's not. And even if I agree with you, I don't agree. with you. What are you doing? Because right now, you just turned off a whole section of this audience that's probably never going to watch this award show ever again because what you just did. And it's like there's sometimes that it's, I'm not telling you that you're never. Merited and sometimes what it is. Exactly right. Exactly right. Like Lou, like, I don't want to bring up examples. Here we go. Bobby Jackson,

happy Monday, guys, with the accolade dropping in June. What are the chances we get a trailer during the Oscars, especially to this broadcast in ABC? see. Possible, but I don't know if they're going to think that their audience is the same audience for that show, but I mean, but maybe. But it's probably going to just drop online in the morning of or whatever and get people kind of chatting about it so it has the news cycle. Yeah, yeah.

That's where I agree with that. Yeah, I would be surprised to get dropped there in the Oscars. Maybe the NBA finals, maybe something like that. Maybe one. One of the finals though, right? Yeah, May. So they would be up before then. Yeah, I guess a second one.

It's probably going to come out. you know, soon. Yeah, soon. Joshua Lemmy, I respectfully disagree with John's take on AID. Sure people get hurt and accidents happen and that's not different from WWE. Yeah, but I mean, that kind of accident, like you can see like with Biggie how he got hurt outside the ring with that flip, you can say, but that is so public. And when you're, it's a different barometer.

Like the WW has been successful for so long that you'll see that occasional mistakes happen. When you're an up-and-coming wrestling promotion, your mistakes get magnified and augmented because you're trying to compete with the big boys. So your record's got to be cleaner. And we're not seeing that with AEW. And that's the unfortunate truth. So, you know, that's the perspective you have to have when you're looking at these kinds of things. Yes, they're correlative in terms of they have, they both make mistakes.

But one has much more space to make mistakes versus the other one. Luce of Rock. I love Killian, but Bill Burr should have been Guy Gardner. I mean, Roke is going to disagree. that's 100% incorrect. It's 100% no offense, but no. I mean, I would love to see it. What are you telling me, Babbit, where, where is, where is he?

He should be, why is he about, why is he, why is he with a kid? You listen to the big blue boy scout. His sidekick is a child. Sidekick's a child. Did you see Lovitz on his show? Jesus Christ, Christian. What? Lovitz skinned him alive.

It was so shocking to see. I'm Bill Burr. Yeah. He did Bill, he did Burr's whole act for him. It was like, oh my God. What do you think you're a one of a kind?

He goes, I say hello and I make it funny. You, it's hilarious, hilarious. All right, let's see. Another one,

Simon's Hiction. There is no tomorrow. There is no tomorrow. So good. Love that scene. And Dustin Woods puts in Supershot. Thank you. I think we're running.

Oh, we got a, Tim. Tim. Tim, Sim, well, I enjoyed Assoca, and I look forward to season two. So agree to disagree? Absolutely. I hope it gets better.

I hope it gets better because there's a lot of stuff that just, it was just, like I said, it was just very poor writing. But I, there are some things that, like I said, I really enjoyed those first two episodes, and it felt like very more so, like, you watched my reaction for the first two episodes. I was like super excited for it.

And then it just became like, it just, he was writing for, it just, there was no substance to it. And like, there was just, little things that could have been changed. Little things that could have made it make so much more sense. And then people, people getting stabbed with sabers and being okay and all that kind of stuff again.

It's like, and then Sabine's got the force and then she's able to use it. And then she, then she trusts to throw Ezra across the thing. And it's just so much. And then the turtle people and. Yeah. So I don't know.

But season two, if they, if they, if they maybe darkened it up a little bit more and, and that was the, oh, So we didn't talk about this. What's that?

The Mandalorian and Grog? Yeah. You're filming in Los Angeles. Yes. Does that make you nervous? Makes me nervous. They're filming in Los Angeles? Yeah.

What do you mean? Like that's where their, that's where their volume set is. Yeah, the bomb. Yeah. And it's like, what about locations? Yeah. Ackleid shooting on locations. Ander shot on locations, right?

Shoot on locations. I just think this Mando Gruggo movie is going to be, like they said, an extended episode of the Mandala. and they're just doing it like as a two-hour movie and it'll be in the volume. Yeah. And I'm not happy with it. I agree with you. So especially coming out of something like Dune Christian,

which I know has CG, but you can see that they shot in live locations. And so missing that element here tells me they're trying to do something on the cheap to get people to like it and get goodwill back with the Star Wars fans. But I'm with you. It makes me nervous. Yes. And that's the whole point of it too, is that there's, you know, not to get into the whole thing about it again but there are people they're like the the star wars like i start you guys know most of you've probably a lot of you found me because of my star war shows and things go too but it's i

always equated like a like a sports team like there were many years or the yankees were in the we're in the pits yeah they were in last place steve the steve sax years right and i was still a fan i'm still a fan i just want and i wanted better i wanted a better i wanted a better uh i wanted a better uh i wanted better uh i wanted better pitchers i wanted better i wanted better i wanted to better i wanted I wanted a better, you know, roster in general. You know, I wanted more stuff to happen.

And that's how I feel about Star Wars. I think that there are some people who are Star Wars fans and then they just hate everything. And then they hate it. You can, you can say things aren't going well. And you can also, as Tim says, you're going to be a fan of that team.

I think the team's doing good. I think the team's good. I think the team's still with the team. They can win championships with the team that they have. And I go, I don't know. I think that they need to be gutted. And I think you can be a fan of it and have opposing views as opposed to saying

to Tim, you freaking shoe Tim you're a shoe you love you love it all I do think that there's that everything is awesome crew that just wants to love everything and good good for them but I don't hold it against them I don't think that they're terrible people for it

but it's like I just feel like it's I just feel like Star Wars is in a very very very bad spot right now I agree I agree um okay I am two fly cam Thunderbolt is now filming convinced yet Roka Also, the Grogo movie is filming this summer, apparently. I guess there's no way Pedro makes an appearance.

Nah, they'll use his voice. No way he's his voice. Maybe they get him for like a scene or something, but that's that's it. That's another negative. You only get to hear his voice and never see him. It's been done with that show for forever. Yeah, 100% right. All those things you've been here in the background, 100% right.

He showed up, his face showed up in what season one a little, little. At the end. At the end. Was it too, it was a little too when he was with the, Bill Burr in that, in that scene, which I thought Burr was great in that episode.

But like, and then he was probably just like, nah, I'm good with this. I'm good. Katie, you take it. Let's see.

By the way, Katie did a, Katie, like, any pushback, and as I said, I'm not a massive fan of season three, but without Katie,

that, that show falls a ball. 100%. She was. If anyone's got an issue with Katie, that season, there are their fucking minds. Most people don't. Most people don't. Like she and she, you know, just the, the,

a lot of the kind of mouth breeding people will kind of just scream at her because she has a vagina, which is which is, they're just prone to that. But the season just wasn't then good. But she was awesome. She did what she was supposed. I did as well, I know her or didn't know her.

She was great in it. But yeah, they just, again, it's a focus thing where they didn't know what they're doing. Dustin Wood, what do you think about the new showgun coming out? You've seen it, right? Is it good? I saw the first two episodes in the theater over the weekend as screen.

It is excellent. I'm telling you all, put it on your must-watch list. All right. The attention to detail, the action and the story. Yeah. You think I'll like it? I think you'd love it. Okay.

FX, right? Yeah, FX. Yep. Okay. And then Hulu. The next day. Mild manner of commentary. What's your prediction for tonight?

Pain. Pain. It's a prediction. Pain. Pain. So prediction? Pain. So good. Bobby Jackson.

Thanks, Bobby. After watching June 2, I really hope studios stepped their sci-fi game up in the coming years, but I know they won't. You just said it. I just finished reading Project Hail Mary and I have high hopes for the film. Which one is that? I don't know Project Hill Mary. Which one is that, Bobby? But yeah, man, that's, yeah, it makes me sad.

Agreed. Casper, hey, bring back the movie trivia Shmowdown. If you got a budget for me, Yeah, four to six million a year. Send it on over. If you think we asked for a lot of money or asked for money before, if you were to bring it back, it would be a nightmare. In order to really make that,

you want to make that show really work. You would need, I'm not even kidding, between four to six million for the year. Because that's only we're going to get it in front of, it was so hard to get it in front of people. And then you already lost the audience once and then you lose them again. you got to build the whole thing up again. And honestly, mentally,

I am in the best headspace I've been in in two years. That show almost drove me into the ground by the end of it. Well, because people convince you, people like to compare you to Vince, but you're not like Vince. Thank God. Exactly. Besides the sexual proclivity,

you're not a sociopath. Vince is a sociopath. Vince cares about no one else. You actually have a heart. Like, you have empathy. You know, whether we've batted, We've battled before on certain things, but you're always a person who cares about things. That's the difference.

And so you take that shit to heart, which is why it affects you. So running that league was mentally exhausting, I'm sure, dealing with all our personalities and egos was. It was everything plus the fact when you get to it, like it was in the business side of it. That was that, that was managing both. It's, it's different when the show's doing 330,000 views. Sure. Selling out a re, selling out. It's, selling it.

Yeah. But it's, it's, but it's, but it's also you. feel like you're doing something right you know and then when you're putting on like i thought titans were some of the best stuff we ever did and it's pulling 10 to 12 000 views an episode and i'm like what are we doing here i'm like this is mentally it's killing me i'm like what are we doing so and you know people once they once they're once they're once they're gone there's a lot of stuff to find them yep so they went somewhere else um simon section so what he can do this is all over i don't know join the circus and i love people doing the

quotes now. It's amazing. So this is, oh, I dare you. How dare you? Let's see. Now, we have Bobby Jackson. It's an Andy Weir novel. Wrote the Martian and Project Hail Mary in the same. Thank you, Bobby. Yeah, that sounds pretty interesting, too.

See, this makes no sense. I missed it when it was in the smaller setting. You mean, like, the first year? The first year? Someone said that there's the same thing that people say when they go, when some people go, oh, well, it lost its touch when it started doing wrestling. You mean the first match?

You came out in a mask and a hat. Yeah. And freaking, and then even when it was the most popular ever was, you got tackled through a freaking on the floor. People got thrown through tables. Yeah. We did one in a wrestling ring during the most popular time. It was like, once it went through wrestling, that's when it went downhill. No, that's when it started to spike.

When Ken turned on Rachel in the middle of a. in the smaller setting, when was the smaller setting? The first year when we did it in the house? It was on speed studios. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but it was so under. Afterbus, but it was so, it was so unorganized. And the game organized.

I mean, I got to disagree. It was fun because it set the whole stage, but that was the best. Anyone who says that the wrestling element ruined it, you're out of your motherfucking minds. That's the only reason they got successful. You can go to a fucking bar and watch people do moving. trivia, you know, that's not the same. The wrestling element was the reason it became successful.

Yeah. I don't care what anyone says. Players or otherwise. I don't care what anyone says. Haunted Autumn. Got my IMAX tickets for June Thursday. I want to be excited, but I know someone will be talking through the whole thing around the phone. Have you noticed some, a marked discreetantia, and cinema etiquette post-pandemic?

Yes, for sure. But it's also one of the reasons why one of the reasons I'm blessed to be able to go to see press screenings. I don't get that a lot. Yeah. Or what I try to do in a movie. movie like June, if I'm going to go see it in the theater, I'm going to see it right before it it leaves the theater. So I know no one's going to be there and I'll see it like 10 in the morning. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, agreed, man. Agreed. Yeah, and it has gone down, which is why I hate to go

see the mixed screenings, because that's what they have in San Diego. They don't have that in L.A. But in San Diego, sometimes some of the screens, you're mixed in with people who've won tickets or people who answered the ads to go. And you're seeing people on their phones, talking, doing whatever and when you're a member of the press you just want to be quiet and watch the movie and that isn't the way so i hate those screenings the press screenings are great but these other screenings yeah people are less and less adhering to the etiquette of it all because they feel too self-important to follow the rules it's frustrating yeah it's true um all right well that's it thank you guys for joining us here today it was a very very stacked show so i want to thank

the outlet for joining us john um where can i got your channel in the link in the description here They can go and check that out. But what are you doing on the channel? Tell me about it. Yeah, yeah. We got a lot coming up this week for sure. You know, two episodes of the Hot Mike there with me and Jeff Snyder. If you all saw the last episode on Friday, it was very combustible.

And so you don't want to miss out. You never know what's going to happen there. You know, go to my YouTube channel, YouTube.com slash John Roka says. Subscribe, hit that bell button. So you see when we're dropping those episodes, got some Jedi Way that just dropped over the weekend. That's out there for you all to enjoy. Geek Buddy stuff. We're going to be reviewing a bunch of things this week.

and, of course, other stuff going on. Like today, my trailer reaction for the new Kevin Costner film, the Western that's coming out, Horizon and American Saga. That is up there on the channel. And my other podcast, The Cinefiles, The Geek Buddies, and the Hot Mike that are there for you all to enjoy as well. Thank you, Chris, for having me on. Thanks, guys. Well, always fun hanging out with you all on a Monday.

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