The Kristian Harloff Show - Green Lanterns HBO Series Delayed To Summer 2026

Episode Date: November 21, 2025

Welcome back to another explosive episode of The Kristian Harloff Show: Capes & Cowls! The superhero world is on fire right now — Warner Bros Discovery is reportedly in serious merger/sale talks, the Green Lantern series "Lanterns" just got pushed, Netflix is swearing they'll keep theatrical releases if they win the bid, and Brendan Fraser finally opens up about the Batgirl shelving. We're breaking it ALL down with Kristian Harloff, Kris Carr, and Winston A. Marshall! 🔥 Today on Capes & Cowls: •  Who's actually buying Warner Bros? Netflix? Paramount? Someone else? •  What does this mean for James Gunn's DCU and the future of DC Studios? •  Lanterns delayed — coincidence or merger fallout? •  Netflix says they'll honor theatrical windows… should we trust them? •  Brendan Fraser gets real about Batgirl getting buried •  Plus rapid-fire reactions, hot takes, and your comments! If you love DC, Marvel, superhero movies, or just Hollywood chaos — smash that LIKE button, hit SUBSCRIBE, turn on notifications, and let us know in the comments: Which company would be the BEST (or worst) new owner for Warner Bros and DC?SPONSORS: NUTRAFOL: See thicker, stronger, faster-growing hair with less shedding in just 3-6 months with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to https://www.Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code KRISTIAN. CASH APP:   Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/76rlxe00 #CashAppPod. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement. Discounts and promotions provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit http://cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. RIDGE:  Take advantage of Ridge's Biggest Sale of the Year and GET UP TO 47% Off  by going to https://www.Ridge.com/KRISTIAN #Ridgepod PRIZEPICKS: Visit https://app.prizepicks.com/sign-up?in... and use code KRISTIAN and get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup!

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and the future of the D.C. in general? I'm going to dive into that because it's all relevant. I told you it's going to be the big story for quite a while until we find out what the hell is happening with Winter Brothers, the future of D.C. kind of sits on it, just waiting. The bids are in. Netflix is also saying they're going to keep with the theater releases if they do get Warner Bros. So we'll talk about that.

And then Batgirl, Renner Fraser, who's out there promoting his movie, Rental Family, which I did see, he talks about Batgirl. And I'm going to guess, I haven't read the article yet I'm going to guess it's with Josh Harwood. That's where all the good stuff comes from. Without any further do, it's the Christian Holleyff show here at Capes and Cowles edition here on this Friday with myself, Winston, Marshall, and Chris Carr on location. That's right. Let's get into it. Here we go. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the show here today. Friday, Capes and Calves, joining me on the show, as always on Friday, is one Winston A. Marshall. And again, Chris Carr is here. Hold on. What is going on? There we go.

the problem with doing it like this right here we that's okay so yeah it's the problem with this fucking thing uh anyway so welcome back to the show everybody and we we'll go right off of it we got one oh six is what you guys are working with today with uh john roka 106 so it's a it's a companion piece the two of you so let's get into it you guys have been paying attention i'm sure to all this stuff happening with um the bids the bids are in with Warner Brothers. I mean, you can't get away from it. It's everywhere, this story. So I don't know. I mean, like the latest is, everybody has said, this is what we're going to give you for it. And we'll figure out who's going to get it. But one of the things that we talked about is whether or not this DC, how much it's going to be impacted.

And there's been so many, I'm sure you guys have seen the reports now coming in about how Zach Steiner plays into this and if he plays into this at all. where who's going to be in charge of DC if it gets sold when it gets sold one of the things I thought was very interesting was the story that was sent today about lanterns because I thought to me they were like okay look supergirl we know it's coming out that's coming out first then we're going to have lanterns coming out um but milanthers was like in march originally and then they pushed it back again so now we have some new news with that in general. So let's let's take this is the story. Hold on

Chris out of there. I don't know how Luke does this. There we go. Just like that. All right. Let's check out this story. And so Lantern's HBO Max officially delayed and there's also update on the Penguin season two

as well. So here is said story. And despite a recent report to the contrary, lanterns has indeed been hit with a significant delay, though it hasn't been pushed quite as far into next year as previously, as the previous former claimed. Last month, there's reported that Landers may not premiere until after Supergirl hits theaters,

likely during the second half of 2026 of the earliest. That was contradicted by an official update from Warner Brothers Discovery, so the show wouldn't actually debut into, it would actually debut in early 2026 just a couple of weeks ago. Now, HBO's Casey Bliss has confirmed that Landers is eyeing an end of summer, 2026 debut. The exact premiere date has yet to be announced. we now know why only a single official

and for this series has been image has been released so far we also have an update on a potential second season of the penguin although it doesn't sound like an official announcement is eminent boys did confirm that there's interest in continuing the show however we are talking to the DC team about what a second season of the penguin could look like

uh Chris Mundy had the following to say about lanterns in the recent interview our shows in a lot of ways about replacement what should some what should someone step aside and when is it time for the next person to take the reins that push and pull between the two characters important okay that's that's the majority of it so i guess the question kind of lies here chris start with you we'll get we'll kind of dive deep into the the Warner brothers sale and all that but um is this relevant to that at all or it's just okay look this is we said it was going to come out early it's then we said it was going to come out late and then we kind of really said no it is going to come out early but it's coming out the end of

summer does it relate at all or is it just the plan on how they're going to make it well it could that's the frustrating thing is it could relate to this so there's several different things that could be happening here it could simply be we are taking some more time to make this a really lovely finished product in post you know um no matter how you feel about the game of thrones finale that last season kept getting delayed because of the scope of what they were doing all those huge battles, all of the different special effects they were doing, all that stuff. So is it something like that? Where they're making sure that lanterns really matches the really incredible power of imagination that does fuel the lanterns power themselves and is that translating to screen well so

we don't have that kind of Ryan Reynolds situation happen again? Or is this delayed because of everything that's going on in the back end with all of the executives, with everything being merged? And because no one's really saying anything, it does lead to this, oh gosh, is it because the series has to be reworked or is it because, you know, we have all this other stuff happening where we don't know what's happening with DC Studios as a whole? My gut is that it's the latter where it's because everything is so in limbo with these mergers potentially happening and not knowing where the studio is going to be. That's why things keep getting delayed. But at the end of the day, all it makes me is frustrated because I want this show now. I want the show yesterday. Yeah, I think that that's the same

thing. I think that it's a matter of. This show is, I know it's in your highly anticipated and a lot of people's highly anticipated and how to do the tone. And it's also another thing outside of Gunsverse, you know, because Gun has the Superverse right now. It's like even Peacemaker kind of fits into that. It is part of that the Gunverse more so. And this seems more like a DC project that it's going to prove itself outside of the James Gunn hold. so I think it's important. So it's interesting that they are holding it. I don't think it has anything to do with lack of confidence in the show.

I think it's very much so what Chris is talking about, where it's like, okay, we have this and it's another piece that whoever gets a hold of this thing eventually, you know, this is when we want to release it. But I don't know, how do you feel about it? I mean, this feels like both an issue of the sale and probably whatever said, be working. I won't lie. The minute the sale kind of got

took center stage, I got really worried. DC had already kind of left a bad taste in everybody's mouth in the way that the DC you kind of went and ended and then it's been really sloppy about you know, well, the Batman still

exists, but we're not getting rid of the Batman and then you have the Penguin, which was great. And so that kind of weird back and forth. We're doing the brave and the bold. We're not. What this is feeling like right now, and now I'm starting to get nervous, genuinely,

is it feels like that chaos we thought we had left behind as we started the DCU is right back again. It feels like the studio is because it's in, the trouble that it's been in across the board has just brought all of its woes back forward because they hadn't fully decided what they were going to do. And if they'd always plan on doing the sale, then maybe some of this needed to go on the back burner. But my guess is if you're trying to sell a studio like this, this is one of your biggest IPs. You needed it to be healthy in order to pull that off.

So I don't love this at all. See, it feels bad. I understand your logic, but I actually disagree with you. I think that the whole reason that they're able to get the kind of prices that they've had right now is because they've been building up all their properties. And they and I think the plan was always to sell. That's what, that's what, uh, Zoloff wanted to do from the second he, um, he, he, he bought it, um, was that he was, he's planning to sell it and sell and, and get his properties up. And once, I mean, what they did with all those movies, sinners and Minecraft and everything,

what they did there, they're like, okay, we're in good shape here. And then Superman still from the most recent report, if it made 150 million, made 150 million, um, DC is in a pretty good shape. The last, the Batman is, is, is moving forward. people are excited about that one. So the DC brand is actually in pretty good shape at the moment. I don't disagree that it puts it at limbo because we don't know what they're going to do with it. And that will go into a deeper conversation later about whatever you believe,

whether you believe that the Saudis want to come in and they want to restore the standard ofers or if Ellison wants to continue with gun, but he wants to keep him on a leash. or Ellison wants gun to continue what he's doing, make money, or they're going to get rid of him outright. I mean, there's just, you're not wrong. It's in limbo. So that's, but that's also to be said about any business that is bought,

all the employees are always like, well, where do I go? What happens to me next? And it's either you're going to have a position here or you're going to be working somewhere else. And we're not even putting, and we will, we're not even putting the Netflix aspect of this, because from where Netflix was looking like they were just kind of like beefing up the price, now certain people say, no, they're serious.

They really want to take a shot at this thing. So we're going to do that. But as far as the overall lanterns coming out, I think, Chris, that what this does, though, by putting in after Supergirl, that sale, what's his face, Zola said that he's going to, that they're hoping to get that thing sold by, like done, final like, contract. by like March, you know, because they got to have to go through all the legal stuff after they take the bid and everything too. And if I make sure there's the standard and practices and all that stuff. So if they sell it by March, then you're like, okay,

well, whoever we're going to, our team's planning out to know that we can put this thing out at the end of summary of Supergirl are two projects. So you're, you're almost trying to maybe protect what you have in D.C. because it just doesn't make, it just doesn't make sense to me to outright this, this memberment right now. No, I don't, I don't think that you just throw the baby out with the bathwater. You know what I mean? Especially because it is so in its early stages and has had success. Obviously, people felt away about the peacemaker finale. Superman didn't perform internationally as well as people hoped, but we're just starting. And I'm not a big fan of a hard pivot the moment something starts to go wrong. I think you have to let something breathe.

I think you have to have something grow and ruminate. And I feel like if they cut this off at the legs, it's just keeping DC in this pattern of, let's spaghetti at the wallet. Let's try again. Let's try again. Let's try again. And you have something that could be really, really cool here. So my hope is that it's more so, hey, let's get all of these, you know, teas crossed, eyes dotted. And then you have these new little jewels in your treasure chest. I'm hoping that's kind of the sweetening of the deal is, hey, maybe you'll get prestige with the Lantern show in the same way they did with, you know, the Penguin series. That is what I'm being optimistic about of. I don't think they're going to get rid of things, but I know that's also coming from me going, well, I really hope they don't get rid of things.

I think the problem is, Chris, is it's the reason why I've been screaming from the high heavens that the last studio that needs to get this is paramount. I mean, I don't think it's on our, I don't think it's on our docket of the stuff to talk today, but like the Ninja Turtle's last Ronan movie has been scratched. Fumble, huge fumble. Which is insane because it's one of the greatest Ninja Turtle stories told. Yes. But they decided to fully scrap it.

But that's part of the problem when you do these mergers. New person comes in. They're like, I don't want to do that ish. I'm doing this now. But there's no new person yet, though. So they didn't do that yet. Totally, totally understand that. But you're saying you're saying Skydance is talking about.

You're saying some Skydance buying it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So then to that point, what Chris is talking about, that then becomes the whole, I hope, whoever ends up taking. this does let this breathe instead of goes, nope, we're done. We're doing it again. Yeah, you did so much.

And I think that, because, yes, Skydance, you still don't know if maybe with a new team they're going to bring that back in, the Ninja Turtles side of it, though. The difference with the, I say the Ninja Turtles and the DC stuff is that the Ninja Turtles is based off of a really good story, but nothing established quite yet. This DC is two or three projects in it ready. It's like to already just take it out would be, I think, a mistake because you're not giving it a chance and asking people to, again, hey, let's start all over again. Let's do this all over again. You're like, oh, this is, it's exhausting. Exactly. I know the studio is fiction, but it's so close to reality. It is. Whenever these mergers happen, wherever somebody else takes power,

we need to stop thinking so much of how do I shake it up? How do I make my legacy here? And we allow the IP to stand on its own, I think. And we have such a great catalog of things here that, again, just needs a moment, just needs a little bit of time. And I would be really impressed if this merger happens and the powers in charge say, you know what? We're going to stay the course. We want to see what happens. We're going to obviously give it our all and make adjustments as needed. But I think it's a bolder move ultimately to play it out and allow the story to be told

and then see how people feel about it. It's a better business move at the moment because if you're calling, like again, let's take the policy and say that Paramount is the buyer and or the. the winner, right? And Ellison's politics is known. Guns politics are known and they are also businessmen. So what if he calls them and he says, look, here's the deal. We're going to let you make your move. We go put Supergirl out there. Let's see how it does. Make it as it is. We're not giving any notes, things done. Do what you have to do. Let's get lanterns out there. Let's see how it does on the streaming platform. And then what, and then Clayface is coming out. Let's see how those movies do.

And you make money for us and keep making your thing. If you lose money for us, then we're going to have a conversation and you're going to have a conversation after the two or three movies that you've already put in together before we were here. So now we would actually like to focus on this. And one of the notes that we saw during those two movies that came out that people didn't like was that it leaned too heavy into this. We'd like you to try to take that out of there. And if guns like, I don't want to do that, well, there's the door. And we might just very well continue on with what you've set up or the flip side of that. Now, again, depending on what you feel about the rumors on the Snyder thing, is the only thing about if you did take out guns thing and start all over again,

you wouldn't really be starting all over again with Stiner, but you bring a whole bunch of new baggage in there with what you do bring in. So it's, it's, who knows what's really happening? That I think is the scary part because, I mean, on the one hand, it's, I'm not just saying that investing our emotions isn't important. Of course it is. it's how you build a business and the brand is that you are getting people to invest their emotions in your stuff. I mean, at least for us on that end, it's not like we're all personally putting in a whole bunch of money that we feel like people are just toying with our wallets.

But it's still not great. It's not great to feel like you're excited about something only for it to be, you know, pulled away from you like Charlie Brown and the football all over again. Right. I mean, think about the people. Yeah. And think about the people that the newer generation that's not. in this space and just a casual fan that went and saw Superman. And then they're like, okay, here's your sequel to Superman.

Then Henry Cavill starts flying around again. You're like, well, what's happening? It's like, what's happening? It's like there's a hardcore fan base that will be excited about it. But then will people care? I don't know. But as far as lanterns goes, lanterns. What do you guys think about lanterns being pushed?

Does that make sense? Or is the other thing we really talk about? is it nothing related to this at all? And they just said, you know, we're going to establish the fact that we want to come with Supergirl first. I'm going to make sure the Supergirl follows up right after what Superman and peacemaker did. And then we'll get into Landers. What do you think about that? What's your thoughts on?

Let us know. All right. This story is not even close to being over. We have a lot to talk about on it today. But before we do, I want to tell you guys about Ridge. You got something to get, Chris, I don't know what. how Logan's wallet situation is. I think we talked about it before,

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All right, guys. So we are trying to get to 106. Currently a 10. Not too shabby, but we'll see. We'll see. But it's amazing, though, because this is not ending this story with the, I mean, what the hell's going on? What is that?

What is that? Okay. I think something's wrong with Streamlabs. Because my roadcaster did not, I have it on mute, and yet somehow you heard me. I was trying to open this. I don't know what. I think they heard that in certain parts of Europe. Jesus Christ.

I, does this, does this happen to you? Because I hit the little mute button on the microphone and yet you still heard me. Yeah, it didn't work. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Cheese and rice. At least you found out now before you started talking shit about either of us. Bro.

Or like my fiance comes in and I'll be like, I, bad, right? Just, never mind. I'm just going to be right. All right. Let's get to the rest of this stuff because, like I said, this, I would tell people that until this story, Gonski, we're going to be talking. talking about it because it's one of the most important stories going on in the business right now and it's going to have such an impact on all the stuff that we talk about so the bids are indeed in this is everything going on so you're all caught up so it begins from deadline paramount

netflix and netflix and comcast formally submit bids for warden brothers discovery uh paramount comcast and netflix have all submitted bids to acquire all or part of winter brother's discovery ushering in a dramatic period of evolution for the media business. Multiple sources confirm the bidding to deadline, with the word coming as a deadline for non-bidding bids arrived on Thursday. There will be another round after the particulars are hashed out when bidders will be asked if they want to submit final binding offers. When it comes as little, while it comes as little surprise, the chase for Warner Brothers promises to remake Hollywood at a time of deep uncertainty about the tech sector, AI, and the

rapidly changing habits of audiences. Warner Brothers has indicated that they believe the sale process can be concluded by late December, though the transaction would then require at least the year to be cleared by regulators. The ultimate fate of Warner Brothers' home of the fabled Warner Brothers Studio, Prestige TV Power, HBO, News Pioneer, CNN, and DC Comics, has been topic A across Hollywood in recent weeks. Paramount has been in pole position in the race, in part because it's bid for the entire company, including its portfolio of struggling cable networks. Netflix and Comcasts are after the studios and streaming part of the media giant.

For employees in Burbank, New York, Atlanta, and other one of their strongholds, the notion of being taken over for the fourth time in a decade is a less than welcome topic. Casey Blois, head of HBO and Max Content, said Thursday during a programming showcase how he preaches to the troops to try to focus on what they are able to control and not all of that theatrical possibility, he said. otherwise it's kind of a waste of energy. Zazloff's longtime former CEO of Discovery Communications and an ex-NBC exec engineered the $43 billion deal

to combine Disney with Warner Media in a transaction with AT&T in 2022. Companies stock sunk quickly after the transaction. The price remained depressed during three years of cutbacks, write-offs, rebrands, redos, one of the biggest and most storied media players had become a takeover target. Earlier this year, they announced plans to split into two companies in 2026, one with studios and streaming and other controlling the linear network.

After the split plan and the merger of Paramount and Skydance barely complete, Paramount went after the big quarry making the first of the three offers for Warnerblowers. They are uniquely positioned in the Derby, not only because it wants to swallow the whole company, including its less desirable assets, but because of the family behind it. David Ellison is the son of Larry Ellison. It's like saying Larry, Larry, Larry, co-founder of Oracle and one of the richest people on earth. In addition to his vast financial resources, the Elder Ellison is an ardent supporter of Trump that would seem to smooth the company's path through regulatory process, given how the thin line

has become between the White House and Department of Justice and other parts of the government. Comcast would encounter a bumpier path, given Trump's longtime towards MSNBC, and figures like NBC late night host Seth Myers and Comcast CEO, Brian Roberts. Whoever ends up at the altar will also need to be ready to make the case with international regular. given the standards, especially in Europe, tend to be more strict. The question, stateside, will be whether the sheer size of the deal, Paramount's highest bid has been north 60 billion might prompt action by state attorneys general who may perceive a monopoly threat to consumers.

The New York Times first reported that the three bids became official. So, as the kids say, this shit's getting real. I don't know, Chris, you hear that? What stands out? Who wins? I mean, at the end of the day, it's hard to say because, you know, we already brought this up. But the Paramount bid has been turned down three times so far because it's been deemed too low. But that's also for the entirety of the studio as opposed to what Netflix and the other company is trying to do of just grabbing some streaming and stuff, not taking the whole studio.

Everything has to be decided, though, by the end of the year. Otherwise, Warner Brothers doesn't really know how to move forward. Are they going to continue this path of splitting every year? thing in moving forward with that? Or does somebody else take the reins and have a say in what's happening there? Ultimately, regardless of who purchases this, though, this is a historic situation because it's the consolidation potentially of major big name studios. I mean, it's a wild, wild situation. And ultimately, who loses is very, very much more easy to see here because this is going to result in so many layoffs again.

And for people, too, who have survived a round of layoffs. It's unprecedented time after unprecedented time for people who are working in this industry. I assume they're probably going to go with Allison. That is my kind of gut reaction here. I think the Netflix bid is potentially interesting. I really enjoy, you know, and we're going to get into it later, that they still want to stay the course with releasing Warner Brothers films in theaters and making that play, which is huge because to the...

Sarandos has been so stuck in his ways. But ultimately, it's hard to see who a winner is. It's just all I can see right now are the very clear losers. And that's mostly just because of my friends in production, who I'm very worried about. I understand that. Yeah, Winston, I think that I'm with Chris, where the proof is kind of in the pudding here of like everything that they just said inside of that article. Like, they're giving you kind of the facts of why Ellison's going to get this.

there is very much a political aspect of this and it will be very easy for him to get this signed off as opposed to Comcast getting it signed off even though there was also rumors inside a Comcast that said that, well, no, no, no, we're actually going to gut the MSNBC stuff and do some stuff and we'll put people in place that president's happy with that, but if that's going to be enough, they're not buddy, buddy in the way that that Ellison is, right? and that is going to help. It's all about who you know, right? And so I think that's important to realize.

I think the other side of it is, you know, the main thing to discuss is if I'm Warner Brothers, I don't want to worry about, well, you guys want that, but you don't want this. They want everything. They want everything. And if it's a matter of a couple million or a billion dollars, like, yeah, but they want it all,

as opposed to if I'm going to know, not give you, I'm going to give me a little bit more money, but I still have this that nobody really wants, and they want it. I think it's pretty cut and dry. I don't know where the Saudis kind of fit into this anymore if they do. The Saudis, to my knowledge, were essentially, because I, because I was reporting on this earlier this week, if I remember correctly, I want to say that they're backing, I think it was. There's rumors that they're backing Paramount and Comcast, but then both denied it. So, who knows? Okay.

Either way, I mean, I think what bothers me about all this more than anything is both, A, what Chris said, and I've said this from the beginning when these, when these, when this rumor about the sale came up is, yes, that the first thing that's going to happen is you're going to lose a massive part of, of this labor force, because when these murders happen, you're like, oh, well, now I have two CFOs. I don't need that. So you exit. That's the first thing I came up.

We have 100 janitors now. We only need 50. Like you're literally just going to cut half of it off when it's all said and done as the first problem. And then the second thing is it links, in my opinion, kind of back to the whole Kimmel situation a couple months ago in that the thing about media is that there's space for everybody. So there's their space for every single, like Christian has certain things that he likes to watch. I have certain things I like to watch. Chris has certain things she likes to watch. This idea of cowtowing.

to whoever's in the Oval Office to, you know, decide that's what the media is going to be up one way or the other is not a good look. It's a better look to have a wide variety of stuff. So this idea that like, oh, well, I'm buddy, buddy with them. So then I'm going to put the kind of just this particular content up. That's the other element of this that I really don't like one way or the other, which is why the idea of Paramount Skydance is the one that worries me the most. But it is what it is. It feels like this, this is a train that nobody can get out of the way of this point. Yeah, I mean, they don't even mention inside of this article, like I said, the Saudi side of it.

So who knows what that is? Because I mean, is there a full-on bid? Are they backing someone? I mean, you know, you could deny it all day long. And maybe they are backing Comcast. Maybe they are backing Skydance. Maybe that's why they're able to say, you know, they call them and go, look, we're going to help you out bid Comcast or we're going to help you out bid Netflix. We just want saying it on this side.

It will be your partners on doing this. I don't know, because then you get away. from the whole, if they bought it outright, my question was like, how does a foreign government buy an American property that way? And so maybe if they're investors in it, it's a different situation. So I don't know. I don't know how that works, but nonetheless, the bids are in. So what does that mean for you guys? What do you think? I've seen a lot of people in the chat saying kind of the same thing that Chris is saying, whoever wins we lose. Do you feel that way? Do you not feel that way? Do you think that maybe it could be a better thing for Warner Brothers or a worse thing?

Put your thoughts in there. Let us know what you think. Um, continuing on, and as, uh, Chris mentioned, that Netflix is a player in the game as well. And Netflix, the biggest thing with Netflix, everybody was asking was going, well, but they don't like to release movies in theaters. Well, there's a story that says basically they wouldn't be doing that. They wouldn't, they wouldn't mess with that. That's what they're saying. So let's see what this says. Netflix reportedly vows to continue

releasing Winter Brothers movies if a merger happens. Okay, let's see what they're saying. Despite previous streaming focus approach to entertainment, Netflix has reportedly agreed to honor Warner Brothers theatrical commitments should it acquire the David Zazoff run company. One party that has unexpectedly climbed

at the top of the list for candidates to acquire Warner Brothers Discovery is Netflix. Despite a previous report stating Netflix was mainly interested in driving up the price for Paramount Skydance, the streaming giant has actually made significant moves to purchase the company. After securing the services of an investment bank, Netflix CEOs, Ted Serendos, and Great Peters were said to really want to acquire Warner Brothers. Now a new report seems to indicate that Netflix might be more committed to sale than previously thought. According to Bloomberg, Netflix has informed Warner Brothers' discovery that should a merger between the two occur, it will continue to release to studios, movies, and theaters. Per the report, Netflix also plans to honor Warner Brothers contractual agreement for theatrical releases.

Significant potential development. Netflix honoring the previous deals is to be expected in case of a merger. They are, after all, contractual obligations. What's significant is the streamers reported about to keep releasing movies and theaters, a previous report from the rap stated that Netflix was slowly warming up to the idea of theatrical releases. such it's an evolution that has been coming for some time however acquiring warner brother's discovery would fully thrust a streamer into theatrical business much sooner than it seemed like it was going to happen michael o'leary of cinema united expressed skepticism over netflix's long-term focus on theatrical distribution it said

that the apparent agreement is to abide by existing contractual obligations that they might inherit says nothing about a meaningful commitment to the actual exhibition the fair point it's important to know that concerns for the future health of the theatrical industry and extend to buyers other than Netflix. In a recent report, for example, a theater executive told the rap that Paramount merging with Warner Brothers was a red alert situation,

given the potential diminished theatrical outputs from both companies. Despite this interest, Netflix acquiring Warner Brothers still appears to be a challenging task. An analyst from Morgan Stanley cast doubt on the viability of a merger. He said that out of all the interested in parties, they may have a small synergy opportunity and perhaps the toughest regulatory path

to close the acquisition. Also proposed at a deal of the scale could lead to a pressure on the financial performance of Netflix's new acquired Warner Brothers properties, which might in turn result in Netflix, they need to grow in a faster rate to justify the spend on such assets. Okay, so that's good enough. So for me, one of the things that I always thought in Warner Bros. getting involved in this, Winston, was that if I was Ted Sarandos or whoever, and I'm like, okay, one of the things people keep, keep telling us that our biggest problem that we have with creators and the things that we don't do theatrical releases and that we don't have that. So, and, but the thing that we don't want to do

is, what, one of our fears is spending this kind of money, knowing what we can do and how this is beneficial to us by putting it on our streamer instead of putting all this money into marketing for movies and having these big bloated budgets and stressing like every other studio. So, What if we buy Warner Brothers and then give creators an option to basically say, okay, Chris Carr, you want to make a movie with us. You're going to make a movie with us and you are going to, you want to make an adaptation of whatever this book is. Lord of the Rings entirely with Muppets.

Right. Okay. So with that, you want $330 million to make it or $350 million to make it. You are not getting to do a theatrical release for that kind of budget. We will give you a Netflix. If you would like to come to Netflix and you want to put that on streaming, we'll give you a two week in IMax. We're going to give you $350,000, $360 million to do it. If you feel like you can do it on a low, if you feel like you can do it on about $180 million budget to make two films, or whatever it is, or $200 to make two films, we'll release it to the Warner Brothers label.

We'll release it to the Warner Brothers label. You'll get your theatrical release, and you'll still have the Warner Brothers stature and all that with it. And you have to choose it, that lower budgets come with the theatrical release. it doesn't necessarily seem that that's what they're going to do here. It seems more so that it's like, I think they said it right, Winston, where it's like they're telling you they're going to obligate the theatrical releases that they have in store right now. For how long they do that, it's anybody's guess.

So what do you make of this? I mean, I think the main thing that kind of sticks out to me one way or the other is this idea of there is a feature. that the theatrical output is a problem already and that they understand that it needs to still have a foundation in order for this industry to like continue to move

because even with them raising the prices on the streamers constantly and blah blah blah I think there is there's a reason why Netflix has been pushing harder and harder and harder into live events because it wasn't necessarily producing the kind of profit return. They've been working, you know, from a loss for a minute.

And this live event transition has kind of done that. So I think them knowing that if we do this, we do need to keep the theatrical element of it, I think that that's smart. And if you look at some of the stuff that Disney has done by keeping the 20th century brand and doing exactly that, like you said, keeping that alive and going with things like Avatar and the Predator series and stuff like that,

that if Netflix is serious about keeping that separation, I think that that's actually smarter. And all you're doing is just putting more, you know, tools in your toolkit. And so I think that that would work. And your game plan of what you just said, I think also works as well. So it's, again, I think Netflix, in my opinion,

is probably the least problematic of the buys personally. That's how I kind of see it. But I, again, it's still a merger. And that one line of them being worried about growing too rapidly. It is something to be a little concerned about because they have been on a growth pattern. You got to be careful that you don't jump to the big leagues.

Not that they're not in the big leagues, but you get what I'm saying about really making a big shift before you're ready, though. They do. They become a mega, I mean, they become a mega studio at this point. They're really a huge, huge brand at this point. What they've just done over the course of what,

15, 20 years or whatever they've done? Right. So, yeah, this would catapult them in a different stratosphere, Chris. what do you make of this report in general and what do you think Netflix's chances really are? I mean, I do think they're lower. I do think they're significantly lower because of what you brought up earlier of why buy part of this when somebody else will buy all of it. I don't want to be left with, you know, the scraps or the leftovers that I'm trying to get rid of. It's why at a yard sale, you end up doing a fire sale where everything has to go. Ultimately, though, I feel like Netflix is,

one, stating this because I know the wrapped it a piece on this a while ago, too, and that it's referenced in here where, you know, Paramount committed to we are going to increase theatrical releases. And that's a big, big deal for theater owners who are still struggling post-pandemic, who are still trying to get butts in seats and trying to make the theater an experience because of streaming. Now, Netflix has been in a place, as Mr. Browell up here, of not increasing revenue. And that's why they've started doing things like live events. They've been able to also increase prestige. They've been able to get awards by doing limited theatrical releases to qualify for awards,

which is a nice feather in their cap. They've also done those limited releases to get money. It's been shown time and time again, too, that if you put something out in theaters and then you put it on streaming, it's just much more successful. The data is all there. So why wouldn't you do it?

So this is a great thing for Netflix to enable them to make more money because the model is very flawed. You know, you're putting all this money into films. You're using A-list actors, and then you're just hoping that you're keeping retention of your subscribers and gaining a few more subscribers.

It doesn't have the same bang for your buck as a big theatrical release if successful. So this is one of those things where it's a Hannah Montana for them. They get the best of both worlds. They can have their theatrical releases. They can make that money, but they can still stick to their guns about what Netflix is supposed to be about. I mostly just like this because it's putting Ted Serendos in a position where he does have to look at the model that he has been so just absolute about of,

we do not do theatrical releases. That is not what Netflix is. Yeah, it's true, but you can stick to that if you're Netflix and just manage the Warner Brothers brand. Exactly. And that's why I think this works really well for him. I just don't know if Warner Brothers is going to go with that bid ultimately. I wouldn't if I was done. I wouldn't because of what they said, first of all, I don't know if you're going to honor past that.

If we're going to continue the fact that you only, ultimately would just be putting Disney movies out and some Paramount movies and that's all and then you know the 824s and other people putting movies out maybe that helps out other smaller studios who who knows but i wouldn't is it because of what we've been talking about what chris just brought mentioned to again and that's just like but what are you going to do with the rest of the crap that i have who's going to buy that's a yard sale i'm again i only got to give it away is like no just take it all like you just take it all and i think that i think it's uh i think it's a foreground conclusion at this point uh who's getting it so We'll see.

What do you guys make of the Netflix idea deals? Do you think that Netflix has a shot in hell in getting them? If so, what would happen and what would a Warner Brothers world look like if Netflix were the owners? Put your thoughts in there, let us know. All right. Last story that we're going to talk about here

before we get to the questions. I just saw rental family. Do you the one of you guys see that movie by any chance? Not yet. I'm so excited about it. It's really sweet. It's a really sweet little movie. And Brenner Frazier is in it, and he's really great.

And he's in, he's in, he's in Japan. And he's an actor that's been kind of struggling, but he's made Japan his home. And while he's there, he's out of these auditions and he kind of stumbles across this organization that basically has actors in situations of real life, you know, whether it's being a reporter interviewing somebody, being a father. to someone being a mistress, to someone being this, and to show that it's, but I guess you're fooling people into it, but to help people replace things in their life is what they're doing. So he gets this job and starts to do that and with it, starts to form these connections with the people that he's in these situations with.

And it was a really, and it's interesting because it's a different cultures, the Japanese culture, so it's kind of combines, how we look at things in general from different lenses. And I like it. But he's out there kind of promoting that movie. And so he's always, he's always asked, I think the last time he was on Howard Stern,

they asked him about they keep asking him about Batgirl. And, you know, this was a movie that people wanted to see, and Brenner Fraser doesn't hold back when he was asked about the idea to scrap it. So when Winter Brothers decided to pull the plug on Backroll, even though principal photography had rap, fans, filmmakers were like,

were left reeling. It was an unprecedented move and one that saw Ms. Marvel director's Adele L. Arby and Bilal Flas' DC Comics adaptation labeled unreleasable reports from the trades. Seeing as moviegoers had already suffered through the likes of Black Adam in the Flash, it was hard to believe a title made for HBO Max could really be that bad. Ultimately, the prevailing theory was that David Zazlov wanted to save money by scrapping the movie as a tax write-off, which couldn't recoup its cost from a streaming debut. So for what it's worth, DC Studios co-CEO, Peter Saffron, has said back girl was not releasable and perhaps particularly praised Zazlov and the team for making a very bold and

courageous decision to cancel it because it would have hurt DC. As the DCE's new Cape Crusader following Ben Afflex experience, would it hurt it any more than joke or two? I was going to say, so brave, so bold. I'm just saying. So bold. Like, I don't agree. I'm, look, the flash wasn't the best, but I enjoyed a lot of the, the,

A lot of that movie. I know Chris Carr did not. I'm so glad you did. And then the other one. And then the other one that they also mentioned Black Adam is another one. Didn't mind it. But I guarantee you that those two movies were better than backroll, in my opinion. However, it couldn't even worse than Joker 2, which was just that should not have been released.

As the DC's new Cape Creture for following Bad Affix's appearance of Flash, Michael Keaton was enlisted to returns Batman alongside Leslie Grace's Barbara Gordon. The movie star, Bread and Frazier, meanwhile, was set to play the villainist Ted Carson, aka Firefly. Talking to the Associated Press, the actor didn't hold back on how he feels about backgrawing shelved by the executives. He said a whole movie. There were four floors of production in Glasgow. I was sneaking into the art department just to geek out the product.

I'm sorry. Nothing is being commodified to the extent that it's more valuable to burn it down and get the insurance on it than to give it a shot in the marketplace. There's a generation of little girls who don't have a heroin to look up to and go, she looks like me. She said of Grace's Batgirl before expanding on his concerns about where the industry is heading. With respect, we could blight itself. We're still

chopping our way through the tall grass of AI and all this stuff. The plan had been for Batgirl to lead to this dark night taking center stage and a Batman Beyond project, like the meaning we could have looked forward to the backgirl being part of the now defunct DCEU. Instead, DC Studios has rebooted the franchise as to the DCU with a new Bruce Wayne set to take center stage

in a brave of the bold. Unfortunately, James Gunn's Saffron still haven't found their Batman, and the movie expected to be helmed by Andy Mushieti appears no closer to become a reality, even as the Batman part two gears up to begin shooting. Yeah, look, I think the other thing to be mentioned here in a Saffron was pretty vocal about it, don't think that James Gunn and Peter Saffron didn't have also a big thing, a big say in this. I guarantee you they had a big say in this, and I guarantee you they said, This is not going to be.

This is not something. Would it have lost a ton of money? And would people eventually have forgotten about it? Sure. Sure. But you could have released it, or you could have. Yeah. I think if I was like, look, I want to just get it.

Is it going to hurt you guys if I don't release it? And they're probably like, no, it's not. Because it's leading to what they just said. We're not going that route. And we've already got a freaking Batman movie with Pattinson. That's good. And people want to see another one. So we got that problem.

we got to deal with because we're trying to put together our Batman. I mean, too. So what do we do? And we're not going to release it. We're not going to release it. I'm going to make the money on it. I'm fine. Do that.

Guarantee you. But I don't know. Chris, do you still think that this should have been released or is it one of those things where like a business decision? Look, it's one of those money. They do whatever they want to do. Well, yeah.

If I get to spend their money, it's a different story, right? If I'm the one doing it, I'm always going to be furious about this. Just because I want a Batman Beyond film with Michael Keaton as old man Wayne. That's, I want it so badly. And the fact that I don't get that is meaning cruel and I will complain to David Zaslav to the day I die. I understand why they did it. I understand that getting that tax right off money is what they decided was best for the studio.

And that's what Zazlap was brought in to do. He was not brought in to create things or spearhead projects. He was there to make this company fiscally sound. And that's a very different job than creating things. I love the shade in Brandon Fraser pivoting to content. I love it so much. No, that was genius. That was that was baller. It's so nice. And of course he's going to feel away about it. You know, I have been involved in some terrible projects that I have loved while I'm making them, that I'm so excited about that I think are going to be really, really wonderful. And then audiences can see it and go, wow, Chris, that's real dog shit. No, thank you so much. Right. I understand. And everything is subjective.

But to your point earlier, too, I just can't imagine a world where this was worse than some of those other films. I just can see why they went dollar signs. That's what we're going to go with. That makes the most financial sense because this is guaranteed money where any film release is a calculated risk. And I think that's the thing also, Winston, is the fact that, like, I'm sure if they could go back in time, they would have shelved Joker, too, you know, and said, we're not releasing that because that movie lost so much money for them and they just thought they

they underestimated and they I think they tried to take advantage of the audience to be completely honest with you and then they let Todd Phillips, Todd Phillips was, I blame Todd Phillips for that movie. 100%. I give him all the credit and all the acclades for the first one. 100%. But I think that he

almost kind of resented what happened after the first one and just completely changed it and the things that everybody loved about the first one he went like this and it's like what are you doing um and they could probably go back and they could shelve that and the flash they probably would but as chris said it's a calculated risk what do you make of this yeah i i i first of all agree with chris brin fraser's shade and that is beautiful that was like chef's kiss on the way that it just little subtle digs

and she's also correct he wasn't just brought in to make the studio money, Zoloft, as Christian likes to say, it was rumored back then. He was brought in to make it sellable. Because that's essentially what he had been doing previously, like over with discovery and things like that. He's the guy that gets you in a position

so that you could sell your assets. And they gave him a giant bonus for it. And that's the reason why there was a lot of creative decisions. We were like, what are you doing, sir? So good on Brandon Frasier for saying that. And again, the people that were behind this got their wish. Here we are. Again, this is all tied back to the merger, the potential merger that's on the horizon.

That's all what this was about from jump. But I agree with Brendan Fraser. It said a horrible precedent of think about all the people that it was reported that they had shows on adult swim and cartoon network that got axed because a lot of animation just got axed. Think about all the various TV shows and movies. Like, yes, I will say because of the pandemic, the streamers got a little out of control with the amount of content they were putting out without quality controlling a lot of it.

But it really, it just got real ugly. And it set this precedent that, you know, artists or directors or actors or whatever are now content creators and we just don't respect them like that. And it was, it's, it's, it was ugly. and I hate that this happened, but I'm not surprised based on what now Warner Brothers is doing. Well, there you go.

So what do you make in these comments? What do you make about the fact that with Backgirl? It seems like that this is a movie that's going to continue to get brought up. And I guess rightfully so, too, because it was kind of unprecedented. Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. All right. We're going to get into the questions in just a moment here.

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22 thus far. Got to get to. Come on, guys. Make me look cool in front of my family. I know. They're all watching right over your shoulder. There's another room watching. Yeah.

They're like Christine. They're going to government name me. Whoa. Yeah. Is that what Chris stands for? Yeah, I'm Christine Marie Lucia Carr. That's the full, that's a full Catholic. That's a great name.

That is a Catholic-ass name. Catholic-ass name. Hilarious. All right. Well, see, you know what I got to start doing, Chris? I got to start taking just for you, the I-A-N off of my name, so we just mess people up. And, or, and know what? We take our last names off, too.

There we go. Perfect. All right. Let's get, let's get, we'll start the first one. Hey, hey, Mr. C.J. Acapella. Hello. Hello. Hello. Thanks. He follows it up, capes and cows. Capes and cows roll out. Thank you. Hey, Mr. CJA, I wish I knew. Yes, indeed. I wish that I did, but I don't. 22, 22. And can we get to 106? Only time will tell as we continue on with the next one. This is Kim, Michael, Daniel. Hello. Amazon has announced the return of Stargate.

Yeah, I heard about that. The greatest sci-fi franchises of all time. For anyone familiar to the show, this is your sign. Have you guys seen the old? Have you ever seen the old one? No. I don't even know what it's about. Oh, man, yeah.

So almost Kurt Russell. I think they did a TV show. Yeah, it's him and Spader, isn't it? Yes. Yeah, I remember really liking it. Yeah, I haven't seen it in a long, long time. So it would be interesting to check that out for sure. So anyway, I heard there was a scene.

series, excited to see. Kim also follows it up and says, please react to 1994. Maybe when the TV show comes out. Maybe that's something we'll do for sure. Maybe so. Hey, Mr. CJ, this is for Winston. Last Ronan canceled. Disappointed, but are you surprised? I'm honestly surprised because of last Ronan's popular. It was one of those things when all of these companies talk about IP, it was one of those comic sales that was going doing gangbusters. So like typically when you have a book or a comic that is like everybody's talking about it or whatever in that space they've been leaning heavier into it so it's crazy to me that they're doing that but right whatever whatever indeed next one is mad sinister mccall buying displayed metal posters for black friday got two options

for my budget five medium 17 by 12 two or 24 by 19 size or quantity what would you get this is a question for you guys it depends on the size of your room yeah i think that i think that's a think because like right now i actually was going to get um unfortunately it's going to be too big um it it was like the captain america trilogy as soundproofing panels like uh like it was it was so cool it's just but this room is pretty small and so it was too big for the room so truly just depends on your room size yeah uh fair enough all right next one after that thank you for that one mad sinister mccall 26 questions they're starting to fire them in there they want to see you guys beat roca please don't let roca win nathan drake 253 do you think for a casual audience

with the announcement of a snarverse coming back during more excitement than the current DCU slate i don't think so um i think for the hardcore fan base that is sniders fan base they'll be excited about it i think the casual viewers will say just give me a good movie and i'll go and see it i don't think they're going they don't really have a stake in the game like i said i think be confused because they just had this new Superman. Like, well, where's the sequel to that one? I just went and saw that. So I don't know what do you guys think.

Yeah, absolutely. It's why are we, why is he Superman again? What is happening? What is this? They're going to be confused. And the definition of insanity, you guys, I know I said, stay the course and see what happens. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So if the Snyderverse wasn't successful,

if Zach Snyder has even moved on, why can't you? But that's the question, I guess. with if you believe these reports, has Snyder moved on? I mean, somebody backed up a truck of money to me and said,

you want to make those movies again? Yeah. Right. I'd go back in. But he even before had done the, hey, my time ended and now a different regime is there with D.C.?

Let's see what happens. Yeah. I mean, it also feels like it's, if you can stay relevant by, you know,

occasionally to be like, I'm just going to push this button real quick. And everybody's like, oh, the Saturnverse. Like, Why wouldn't you, I know myself and how I'm the infinite toddler.

I would press that button like every like six weeks just to see what would happen. Absolutely. Yeah, it's the truth. I wonder how that's going to work. I don't know. Buster Barnes, I think the Lanner delay is more to do with HBO scheduling, possibly. Gunn has said how he wanted peacemaker to come out later than it did, but it wasn't up to him. I think that's a very valid point, very valid point.

it could very it could be the scheduling side of it have nothing to do with this but i i think it's a little too coincidental but yeah but even if that's the case hbill scheduling is going to be messed up because their parent company is in the middle of a merger like right right it's still could all be tied to it one way or the other so it's the truth i i agree with that um okay let's see after that one thank you Buster Barnes, 29, you guys are almost at 30. Nathan Drake, Christian, I think you said they should have started with the Trinity for DCU. I worry that Supergirl won't do well and the DCU will be in trouble. I still feel that way.

I think going with as good as this, everybody talks about it. The only reason I'm excited about Supergirls from hearing how great it is this comic book run is from everybody that I do these shows with. Dude, that might be your Christmas present as I might send you the great. I'll read it. because I want to see it. Now my, but my question, though,

goes, if, because this is, this is factual. If Supergirl does not perform, this regime is in trouble. Yeah. It was spent with the merger.

They wouldn't be as in, if there was no merger going on, then he's like, okay, they're going to go with something else, they'll just maybe change course. They'll be in trouble. Ralph,

watching Sam's reaction to knives out, makes me think that she's going to love seven and shut her island. Don't worry. I'm going to show her. I'm going to show her. I promise. I love me a good mystery movie. Yeah, she loved Knives Out.

She's coming in here today. We're going to watch the second one. Oh, yay. I was going to watch Shelby Oaks, because I haven't seen it yet. I was going to watch that with Sam, but instead I'm going to watch it with Tina instead. Okay, Johnny Petrieza. What was your favorite TV show growing up? I mean, when I was really young, it was Three's Company.

Oh, good pick. Love you. I feel like it would change pretty regularly. Yeah. So, like, I loved Fresh Prince of Bel Air. I was big into Family Matters for a while. Family Matters. Family guy, South Park.

The Boondocks is up there. Chappelle Show. Chappelle's was probably my favorite of all time. Yeah. I was, when I was really little, it was, you know, like Sailor Moon, loved Family Matters. And then I got obsessed with the Colbert rapport. I taped it every night and I'd watch it during lunch in high school. I was so cool.

I'm going to go sit in the theater room and watch Stephen Colbert. That's hilarious. Really hilarious. Okay. So yeah, this is some good ones though. I like that. 31. And let's see, next one.

And by the way, these company still holds up. Oh. So funny. He was one of the most brilliant comedic actors, maybe of all time. Oh, really? Yeah, no, he really was. There's a scene, there's this one thing that's gone viral on social media where he's, he like drinks this drink and he's,

and he has to go through this entire party and like he's, like, dancing with these old ladies and he's running around, he's jumping on the bar. It's like, it's just brilliance. It's absolutely brilliant physical, physical comedy. Armada, Fallout TV reaction with Winston. The TV shows are going to start to take a back burner. They don't do well on the channel.

They simply just don't do well. The Demon Slayer is not is eating shit. The Welcome to Dairy is not doing very well. I'm going to take a break on the on the TV reactions. But movies will come back before. So everybody here, Chris is going to start doing stuff in December. Winston's going to do more movies in December. I think we're going to try to do as much as Demon Slayer as I can.

But it's starting to get to a place where it's just financially just doesn't make sense for me anymore. Go, pal. Why do they do this? YouTube, like just changes the name. for some of it's a little weird the only thing I could think of is um my email is somehow made two separate accounts it has like my swaggy blurred like channel one with with but it also has like an email address so I wonder if maybe he had accidentally logged into no no no it's everybody it did it to everybody it did everybody um I wonder about the two-week I maxed

and streaming you got some money from tickets but you end up spending 80 to 100 million on P&A yeah I know I agree I don't understand how that works as far as if you can benefit off of that. I don't know. Chey Markell, am I living under the rock? Do you guys know that Netflix not only does English jobs, they also do AI effect over the mouth to make movement matching

this? I did not know that. I didn't know that and that to me is one of the rare exceptions where AI being used in movies actually is a pretty cool technology to do because you're not changing anything. You're not literally just making a slight alteration in order to make it fit better.

I think that's pretty dope. That's smart actually. Yeah, because a huge thing in dubbing, and I apologize for this term, you match the mouth flaps. Gross. Yeah. It's foul. It's foul. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's only foul if you go into that neighborhood, and I guess you are.

That's where I live. I'm a resident. That's fair. You are the president. That's true. Hey, Mr. CJ, I wish I knew. Indeed, me too. 32.

32. And Shay comes back in and says Netflix has an AI effect that uses CGI over the mouth of the actress to sync movement with whatever languages. audio to select what the eff am i late i got to i've got to see i've never even realized that was a thing i got to i got a look cool that's cool i didn't notice that either that's pretty dope uh the lilly yankee support and listening while getting ready for work have a great and safe weekend all thanks for the show as always thank you lily yankee you are the best appreciate that uh 33 as we're gonna keep moving joe hendo i didn't care that the back girl

was getting made i didn't care that i got canceled one of brothers had no idea what the hell they were doing i think that's fair too you know what they were doing They were just trying to make money, and it was going to go to streaming anyway, which is the other interesting thing. Nathan Drake, so why didn't Sony shelve Madame Webb as a write-off? Maybe they thought they could get some money out of it because some of those, like what happened with Venom. At that end, that end, you know, I joked I was saying so brave, so bold.

I think that somebody had to be the first one to do that. Because, like, yes, technically you can write that kind of stuff off. That nobody had been like, hey, let's take our pretty. much like 80 to 90% completed movie and just throw it out the window. That sounds like a good plan. Like it's not something that was really done at that point. Barring like there have been a few scenarios like that, but not in that manner.

You know what I'm saying? That's the big difference. I love when an audience member gives me an opportunity to quote Arnold. Lil Thorough said, I thought Christian said he was done calling him, Olaf after successful the studio has been, I lied. Fasia Brutha,

what are each of your top favorite movies of 2025? Well, I'm going to have a whole list of that, so I don't want to give too much. I can tell you that I can guarantee, sinners will be in there. I can guarantee you that weapons will probably be in there. I can guarantee the F1 will probably be in there.

Guarantee that Roofman will probably be in there. Those are some of the ones that are that pop in there right now when I was thinking. I still got to see Marty Supreme. I missed my screening last week, which I was bummed about, but I still, I need to see some stuff. We still got Avatar coming. Right, Avatar.

What else is left? It's, it's Avatar, Marty Supreme. Five nights at Freddy's two. A lot of the movies that are, there's a lot of them that I actually do, yeah, Zootopia too. I see that on Monday. So I'm going to see the movies that are coming up

that have a potential to be in there. Let's see. I always do like going back into my most anticipated and see which one's hit. And usually a lot of them never even hit on my most anticipated. Very sad, but I know exactly what you're talking.

Yeah. Like Superman won't be in my top 10. It was my number one. Oh. And I think, and the Bruce movie, I don't think that'll be in number one either. What's the Bruce movie?

What? Bruce Springsteen one. Oh, okay. I got it. It might. It might not. I don't know yet. Five nights of Freddy's two is one.

Let's see what else comes out. Marily, we roll along. I have access to it. Does eternity come out soon? Oh, that's the one with us. With Elizabeth Olson and Meliskeller.

He came out already. Oh, it did. Yeah, came out. Oh, no, it comes out this weekend. It comes out this weekend.

It comes out this weekend. It's up against wicked, so good luck, I guess. That actually is a cannibalizing audience. So wait, wait, wait, wait, 26. So it's, but it goes up against Utopia, too.

well then that's slightly different audiences yeah but it's a small movie though it's it's a it's not it's not it's not really going up against wicked it's it's a it's it's a 24 movie as opposed to a big studio movie that how much how much are they really need that movie to make which is which is 100% fair i i meant more like the the demographic you're going to hit the most sure you're going to kind of overlap between wicked and eternity so there's really nothing i mean an avatar on the 19th marty supreme so the only ones that i could see hitting for me and then is this thing on is another one that's coming out which they basically watched my pilot and then they made the movie um so the avatar fire and ash um is probably going to be in there for me if it's good so those are some of the ones i'm thinking of

is hamnet out in december yeah hamnet also um i'm curious how that's i everyone tells me i shouldn't want i have to watch it because of the wards up of this because it's kids and stuff um it's about a loss of a child i don't want to watch that I hate that shit, but I'll watch it. John Draxton, if we get a new reboot, should they do the unthinkable and make John Kent the new Superman over Clark? No one, no way. No. Many people still don't relate to him as much. Maybe his son who is half human and better modern.

No, you're going to ask people to pop through the computers and start screeching and yelling and screaming. They wouldn't know what to do with themselves. If people did that, you can't do that. It's, no, that you, in the same way, that like I still think it's a problem that we're going straight to Damien and we haven't really had a good Dick Grayson yet.

You can't jump into, the only way that John Kent can be involved is if you are going to end up with a scenario with Damien, if you're going to go do like the Super Suns type scenario and have John and Damien be best friends and work together if that's what you're doing.

But hell no, John cannot be the centerpiece. It needs to be Clark. Yeah, I agree. Chris, I think this guy lives in your neighborhood. We're on the HOA together. Dick Smoker has become a you, too, ever. Armada, 8.Y.T.

Would an invincible show reaction do well? Maybe when it was, maybe when it was out, you know, initially, possibly. You know what the thing is, too? I realize, though, it really is true how this YouTube thing works with the, with the algorithm side of things. Like, there's people who cover, like, like, for example, Luke on Galaxy Geeks, their bread and butter is animation on their channel.

It does not hit for me. There are certain things, horror does not hit for me. There are other movies that do, other things that do that, there's just certain things that just don't hit. TV shows do not hit for me. I've tried. I think there's a couple, you know, the Star Wars ones did when they were on. So it probably did that.

And then, you know, maybe if there's, they haven't many good Star Wars or Marvel shows in quite a while. And even the Daredevil ones didn't do that well. Seattle, KEO. Support for the Capes and Cal's crew. Thank you. 38. 38.

John Jackson. Adding new heroes, people may not know, might save D.C. from fatigue if they do, indeed, go for a new reboot. Now, you forget, everybody says these things, and they understand their reasoning behind it. But you got to remember marketing,

and how important marketing is to get people into the theater. Yarrow-Flor, Brazilian Wonder Room, would be a smart way to throw us off. It's different. Different is great. but different. This is my favorite thing that people say because they don't,

because nobody, nobody, they say it all the time. Why do people make sequels all the time? Why do people make, um, you know, the remakes all the time and do this?

There's no original stuff. There's tons of original stuff. Two things happen on original stuff. They're all on streaming or no one goes to see them in the theaters because nobody knows what they are and people don't like new things. It happens all of the time. All of the time. And my brother said to me,

They don't want to do in sequels all the time. They don't. They're making new things all of the time. The big money goes into the sequels and everything else, too, because that's what people go and see theaters, because it's familiar. If you put a Brazilian Wonder Woman in there, right, you're a floor and it's not Diana.

You're shooting yourself in the foot right away. It's, it's, go ahead, Chris, go, okay. I was going to say, I know I never shut up about this show, but Justice League Unlimited worked so. well because you established who your core characters were and then you met all these other people and that became this kind of gateway drug of oh my gosh there's a superhero like this there's a superhero like this i can't believe that now i'm going to go follow that and now i'm going to go learn more about them a thousand percent it was the idea of like the first episode of unlimited was

a mission where you sent captain adam supergirl and green arrow with green lantern john stewart who we had spent two seasons on the original Justice League. So now he's like, I got to deal with these rookies. And it became very much like that. And that became interesting. Yeah. You cannot jump in with the Brazilian Wonder Woman, unfortunately. No, unfortunately.

Harvest K. Hey, Chris, stay away from that last episode of Welcome to Derry. Extreme eye violence. This is true. It's true. Fantastic show, though. Yeah, there is. But the only problem with that,

and I guess I can talk about it now, because I didn't do a reaction to that one. What I'll say with it is, every episode of this show, I'm so locked in. And then there's one scene that the CGI is over. The CGI in that scene, Harbs was awful. It was awful. There's like there's, there's been, and I love the show.

I love the show. But there's been about four to six usages of bad CGI that has sucked me out of it. And it was like, it is the CGI in that scene that he's time, it was so dumb. It was like, oh, this is awful. It was like from, it was like from like 2004. I love that you guys think that I would watch this. Right. It's a really good show.

It's a really good show. The Pennywise gift scares me. I can't watch the show. I'm such a baby. No, you wouldn't be a baby on the first one. I'll tell you why, because the first episode is not easy for me to watch. And I don't have a, I don't,

and I'm pretty good with this stuff. And it's really gory. The first two, there's two scenes in the first two episodes that are like brutal, like real brutal. on graphic and you would you'd you'd you'd jump through the it would be great reaction but you would you'd jump right out the window um okay will shook snatter needs to direct the absolute universe i mean yes but no i mean if if anybody was perfect for that it actually would be him i'll be

honest with you i think that's kind of what he wanted to do with the dc u and christian i like just for an example uh batman uh is super jacks but he's not born rich he's born to like um uh just a regular ass family his dad was like a school teacher dad and his dad gets murdered his mom lives he's actually friends with his rogues gallery until they become the rogues it's gritty as hell wonder woman wasn't on themas she was actually raised in hell and like comes up and is like a badass and that like there's it's amazing and sider would have crushed that but again And I don't think Snyder is going to be anywhere near this kind of stuff unless the merger

dictates that's not going to happen. Armada. Plyrobus is crazy. Don't watch Christian. It's scary. I don't have enough. I don't have enough in there to say what if it is. Do you guys watch it? I haven't seen it yet.

Okay. So I don't know. I haven't seen neither. So I don't know. Joe Hendo. Not every standard fan is like the toxic part of the fan base. Most of us have moved on just saying it's, I mean, it's very true. You guys get, people get lumped.

in with it. And look, I'm trying to think, I really like, I love Manistee. I'm, I know that, I don't know where you guys stand on it. I really like that movie a lot. I like it. That's fine. You know, Wonder Woman, really like that movie, really dislike the ending. But I like the movie a lot. Batman v. Superman extended cut, dig it. The Justice League Snyder cut, dig it. Flash. A lot of stuff that I, a lot of stuff that I liked, a lot of stuff I didn't like. Suicide Squad, absolute farts. The Suicide Squad.

Good. And this is all ranking inside of the DCU, or the DCU, rather. What else? I mean, there was a lot. There was Aquaman. Aquaman. It wasn't a big fan of Aquaman one or Aquaman, too. There was Birds of Prey.

I bailed on it. Two Shazes. both okay so I I black enemy so I would say I would be welcome I would welcome if it if it I mean okay where are we going with sure I don't need it but I would I I say let's let's see where it goes if that's the decision is going to go but I think it would be a mistake to discontinue what they're working on right now um Michael you guys should watch baby's kids react to it that's oh my god I love that movie so much Old school.

What is that? Oh, my God. Oh, it's old school. If there's one without you. It is kids. Yeah, dude, if there's one without you, put me and Chris to watch babies.

Maybe he's going to be hilarious. Really good. All right. Let's see. After that one, this is Gerard. I just hope werewolf would be better than Wolfman. That movie was terrible. The look of the werewolf,

the Inbred Freaks from Wrong Turn on the Radioactive Freaks from the Hills Have Eyes. and Robert Eggers. That Wolfman movie, you're talking about the one that came out the beginning of the year, I thought it was terrible. I'm with you. And who was the director? Because the director was someone who was pretty good, right?

Who directed that movie? Werewolf with Julia, what's her face? Garner. Oh, okay. Who directed, who, let's see, who directed that? I want to see who directed that. Because there's somebody I thought I thought was. Oh, it was the dude who did, you know, Lee Wynell.

who did Invisible Man. I like him when a lot. I did not like that movie. The movie came in the beginning. One of the first movies I saw this year. That movie will not be in my top ten. I'll tell you that. But I'd love to see what Robert Eggers does with a werewolf movie for sure.

100%. 39. Faustia Brut. Or any 2025 movies that deserve more love, Roofman. 100%. Roofman deserves way more love. Roofman was absolutely great.

And I think the big thing, the big thing that it did for me too is like I already knew that like I liked shaining tatlin and I thought he was a strong actor I forget sometimes about Kirsten Dunst just because like she still works like she takes she does it every couple years if you know if she's into doing a movie and whatnot she is so good they have great chemistry too have you seen has seen it yet Chris I haven't it's actually on digital now just came out of digital um the long walk oh yeah that one's in there for me too long walk deserves a lot more more love. Yeah, Long walks in depth. I'm so glad you brought that up. That's definitely in my top 10,

if not in my top five. Agreed. Love that movie. Um, Justin, you're Amishi. What's popping? You know, has anyone seen Kung Powell enter the fist a long time ago? I think it's the funniest movie ever. What's yours? Funniest movie? Um, I mean, Caddy Shacks up there for me, Hot Shots 1, Naked Gun movies. Oh, yeah, Naked Gun. This here's naked gun will probably be in my top 10. Also, maybe, maybe. I loved it. That was good.

Really funny. What do you guys have for funny movies? Of all time? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, everybody knows. I say it all the time. My favorite movie is Rush Hour 1 and 2, I consider it one movie. But that's up there.

Don't be a menace to South Central. I'll drink you juice in the hoods up there. I think, well, you know, my favorite scene, my favorite scene from that one? Which one? Is when they spoof. the boys in the hood when he's throwing the punches and he's just talking

all the kids out. It's one of the funniest things ever. It's either that for me or the when they jump in the new gang member, he goes hey man, and if you fall you better pick your ass back up. And so then they go and they start doing like they think they're about to like beat his ass and

all of a sudden he's having to do double that. Totally. Um, all right. Let's go next one here. And this is our model. Samurai standing on Netflix looks dope. Yeah, you hear it's good. I hear good things.

Nice. 39, guys. 39. You need around, again, a little over 64. 5. The G-man. Hey, gang. Shout out for the Boondock's Love, Winston.

There you go. Absolutely. One of the greatest shows of all time, man. David, the serious eye violence and dairy. Yeah, yeah. That one was. Yeah. Even though you're going to watch it, but still.

I'm not going to watch it, but I love that you warn me. G-Man and Chris love the two filthy casuals podcast Oh, thank you so much, man. Armada. Small 20-25 movies I heard are good. 40 acres. Okay. Sovereign.

She-ride shotgun, sketch. If I had legs, I'd kick you. That one I'm going to check out with Roseburn. I'm going to watch that one soon. I want to, you know, we're getting closer and closer to the nominations and stuff too. Is good fortune considered a small movie? I consider it.

I don't know what it is. I would assume so. the Aziz Ansari directorial. Oh, yeah, definitely. It was, I loved it. I thought it was really good. Kianu was hilarious because he really got to tap into almost like being a little bit of an airhead again, but like a mature one because like his angel doesn't understand humanity.

It's really, really, really enjoy that. Got decent, 78% of Rotten Tomatoes, 81% with the audience. I'm supposed to watch that with Logan when I'm back in town. I'm so excited that. That's good. Okay. Okay. So that's, again, 40.

We've hit 40 here as we are moving on, moving on, moving down the road. Is that how it goes? Nope. I don't think so. Moving right along. He's on down the road. He's on down the road. I went whiz, yeah.

Yep, no. That was Muppets. Harvest K, last samurai standing is pretty cool. Think squid game was samurai and ninjas. That's cool. They're on the same historical period as the last samurai. Well, I'm going to watch that immediately. You said squid game and samurai and ninjas?

That's it. That's it. All right, guys, with that, that's our show. So, one more just came in. Dark Smirk, Doomsday trailer, longer for Avatar over online. Oh, maybe. But I still think, though, we're just in a very different spot here today where leaks, someone's going to leak it.

And if you already beat them to the punch and release it first, then it doesn't matter if they post it. and then all the copyrights and everything too. I think, yeah, I think you released it a day before and then you released it in the theater. So I know we have conflicting opinions on that.

But nonetheless. Yeah, I like the, I liked the idea of at least get through opening weekend and release it on Monday. Sure. I like the idea of it's great, but whether or not, whether or not they're able to.

I think it'll still do gangbusters. I don't know. I still like, not that Avatar needs the boost, it doesn't, but like I still think it would do gangbusters. Of course it would, but that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, okay, so you release it, you're releasing it in the whole weekend. You don't think some asshole is going to leak it on, of course they will.

But it's not going to, like, it's going to be the ghetto bootleg version and it's, it'll be fine. Yeah, I think it would be a massive error to do that. But we'll see. We'll see what happens. We'll find out soon. Unheard Sirens Inc. Yes, Boondocks is hands down

One of the funniest shows of all time I intended a panel with Rodney Barnes and Gary Williams A couple years ago he laughed so hard Dude, what sucks is you could never Make a Boondocks right now Like it just the just the way that we're where we're at now In society you couldn't but it was so spot on About so many things

And if you if you like If you've ever wanted to try and Have like some sort of gateway into like Black humor and things like that It is so, so, so good. Armada. Disney D-plus means it on Disney Plus. Yep. Yep.

Okay. So 43, not bad, not bad at all. Guys, I don't know if we're going to have a show next week because of the holiday weekend or holiday week. So we'll have to figure that out. But there's one more question. Hold on the second. Paul Hitchcock. High helps for Werewolf. Eggers is great.

I need a good Werewolf movie after Grills, Wehrows. where wolves that movie had me begging for a silver bullet. I knew what that movie was. So it's like a very kind of 80s by accident discovering it on VHS you know going, what's this?

You're in an old school video rental place and this is some movie that they're like, oh, they made this this as B movie. It was an intended B movie. It knew exactly what it wanted to be. So I knew what it was, but if you weren't expecting that, yeah, I can see what you didn't like it. Did you the one of you guys see that movie?

No. Okay. Nope. Yeah. All right. You guys got a lot going on. Chris Card, they mentioned the podcast. Tell me about it. What else you got going on? Yeah, two for the casuals. Wherever you get your podcast, Spotify, Apple Pod, etc. Or you can find us on YouTube. This week, we are actually releasing a Patreon episode so that you can kind of hear what we do on Patreon. It's a great episode where Amy is talking all about Knottesbury Farm. She knows so much about theme parks, you guys. It's fantastic. She used to theme parks as I am to the Muppets. We have very, very specific interests. So go check that out. You can also always go to speakfriendstudio.com if you want to do voiceover classes. I actually have two spots left for my advanced voiceover class that starts on Monday at 4 p.m. Pacific Standard Time. So if you want to get in there, come hang out with me.

Winston A. You can find me at the Swaggy Blur on all platforms. We've got a Blurt Breakdown on Mondays, the pop culture show for when you need to know, see what happened was. On Tuesdays, Spill the Tequila with myself and John Roke on the John Roker channel on Wednesdays. And this Wednesday in particular before Thanksgiving, Blurts in the hood, myself. and Jay Washington, we are doing a black family feud. So if you want to find out, you know, everything from what is the best Thanksgiving food to other questions I'm not going to say right now because I don't want to ruin the game.

You got to come and do it. It's going to be great. And then obviously here, then the Demon Slayer reactions or I don't know if we're putting them on pause to do movies right now. But we'll finish season two for sure. Cool. All right, guys, thank you for joining us here today, as always. Have a great weekend.

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