The Kristian Harloff Show - Henry Cavill is going to be in the MCU?! But NOT as Doom?!

Episode Date: February 19, 2024

Welcome back one and all. Today we discuss the news that Henry Cavill has supposedly ben offered a role in the MCU. However, to Kristian's dismay, it is NOT for Dr. Doom. Is this a rouse? Bourne Ident...ity might keep going, Damon waiting on a script. Moana live action starts filming this year says The Rock. Speaking of The Rock, he did a full heel turn for the WWE and joined The Bloodline. good call? What is next? The Box Office is in, Madame Web suffered, Bob Marley did well and Dune 2 is right around the corner! This and more on today's LIVE episode of The Big Thing with Kristian Harloff and John Rocha! #marvel #MCU #henrycavill #drdoom #movies #moana #therock #wwe #thebloodline NUTRAFOL: Take the first step to visibly thicker, healthier hair. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to http://www.Nutrafol.com/men and enter the promo code BIGTHING THE PERFECT JEAN: For a limited time, our listeners get 15% off their first order plus free shipping at http://www.theperfectjean.nyc or Google The Perfect Jean and use code [BIG THING] for 15% Off. FUM: Start the year off right with The Good Habit by going to TryFum.com/BIGTHING and getting the Journey pack today. Füm is giving listeners of the show 10% off when they use my code "BIGTHING" to help make starting The Good Habit that much easier. MAGIC SPOON Go to https://www.magicspoon.com/BIGTHING to grab a variety pack and try it today! And be sure to use our promo code BIGTHING at checkout to save five dollars off your order! ROCHA CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/@UCspNgxDOWnr... PATREON: Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-... FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's going on? Everybody, welcome back. Happy Monday. The President's Day, man. And we are going live here today on The Big Thing, as we do every Monday. And we've been doing myself and John Roker. And we've got a lot of things to talk about, my friends. And if you're brand new to the channel, you've never been here before, click that subscribe button. We are approaching right now, guys.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Listen to this. We're at 128,450 subscribers at the moment, trying to get to 130 by the end of the month. So hopefully we can do that. Hopefully you guys can join us in doing that. So what are we going to do here today? Well, we're going to talk about what's in the thumbnail and what's on the top of the title there.
Starting point is 00:00:40 And that's Henry Cavill. I've been saying this from the beginning. I'm convinced people are watching the videos and saying, hey, wait a minute, maybe we should put this guy in the movie. Probably not. But I like to live in my own fantasies. But either way, Henry Cavill is apparently, supposedly, going to be in the MCU.
Starting point is 00:00:59 And I said, yes, he's going to play Doom. And he said, no, not Doom. I said, that sucks. I'm glad that he's going to be in the MCU, if that is indeed the case. And we'll talk about it. I still think it should be Doom, and I'm hoping it's a ruse. What do you guys think? Speaking of ruse, let's talk about this whole thing with the Rock and the WWE and the bloodline angle and all that.
Starting point is 00:01:18 I read another article that pretty much confirmed that didn't have any of this planned, by the way. We can get into that. But who cares? That's in the past. What's in the future is this, the new plans and what's going to happen? And then John and I have a very similar idea of what's going to happen there. Speaking of the Rock, he says that Moana, the live action version was supposed to come out this year. That clearly isn't happening.
Starting point is 00:01:38 They're filming this year. So that will happen. And then we know that the part two is coming out this year. We know that. The live action will probably come next year. Maybe that was always the case. Maybe I'm making things up, as I'm telling you guys this now. Box office.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Madame Webb did not do well. I don't think anybody was very surprised at that. Bob Marley did pretty well. It didn't mean close to like 30 million. So we'll talk about that and more. There's so much more. Linda Hamilton says she's not going to watch the Stranger Things season that she's in. Why did she say we'll talk about that or an identity, another movie, perhaps.
Starting point is 00:02:17 So we are going to get through all those conversations. And we're going to take all of your questions as we do every Monday. So if you want to start asking some questions, we go basically what we do. we start talking about all the topics. You guys throw in the super chats by the end of the conversation that we're all done. We get to your questions too. So if there's anything we missed out, anything you want to hear us talk about, throw those in there also. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Down any further ado, let's get to it, man. It's myself. It is. John Roker. It is the Big Thing Live. Here we go. Welcome back, one and all to The Big Thing Live. Apple Podcast, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Joining me on a Monday, as always, is from the Outlaw Nation channel, the John Roker channel, I should say. He is John Roka. What's up, Johnny? How you doing? Hello. Dun, dun,
Starting point is 00:03:18 dun, I have no president's t-shirt to wear. So I'm wearing the rock shirt. That's right. Give me love to the rock here. As a president, I was a president of his fan club for a very long time. So I'm looking forward to today's conversation.
Starting point is 00:03:33 You should get the opposite shirt. Now you turn coat. You should get the opposite shirt. They're all sold out. I can't find an American nightmare shirt to save my life, man. All this stuff you're talking. You know, it's funny is that I actually, I'll do a quick, a quick brag. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:45 When I, when, when Cody Rhodes, it's just, it's more to show how much of a incredible human that Cody Rhodes really is, by the way. It's a really good guy. And he came in when he was on Clyder Live. We talked to him for quite a while. He was great. And he's a big Star Wars guy, right? So he started following me afterwards too. And I was like, well, eventually this guy's going to stop following me.
Starting point is 00:04:05 So what are he? Still. And he still does. And I sent him last Royal Rumble. I sent him. I said, congratulations on, on, on wins. and he wrote back, he goes, thanks very much. I can't believe this has happened.
Starting point is 00:04:14 It's pretty crazy. Wow. And so after all this went down, I'm like, I'm just going to send him a note just to almost. I go, dude, I wanted to say, congratulations. So glad this is happening to you and get it done, right? And he wrote back again. And, you know, I'll keep what he said this time, you know, to myself.
Starting point is 00:04:32 But he was, but just the fact, what you hear about him is true. Yeah. And he goes out of his way to make sure that he's talking to people. He takes pictures. with people he responds to people he's and he's not doing it out of just like you know an obligation he's doing it because he's legit like excited yeah he's excited to talk about this stuff he's like this guy's a wrestling purist all the way through so but um i guess we can stay there john you know when it comes to we've talked about this on on the phone we've talked about it on here but the pivot
Starting point is 00:05:04 i think they've done well i think they've done it well now um yeah i think you and i both on the same page though this is about and I think it should be it's about as telegraphed as it gets the rock threw some subtle things in there maybe not so subtle things at roman rains when he was doing the promo he's going to turn on roman and then they're going to have their their big fight hopefully it's summer slam or something else and that's how it should go down yeah yeah the fact that he's playing both sides like he's thanking the fans but still saying like oh you guys are sweat hogs in utah but then it goes on twitter goes thanks for breaking the record guys you know it's like you can't play both sides without it leaning towards him going face and he wants to be faced like the
Starting point is 00:05:43 rock needs a stroke dog he needs the stroke you know his brand needs a two though yeah it's right 100% he just rolled out some new under armor gear and we know we know you and i both know heel stuff rarely sells it rains is one of the anomalies and so it's like this is the way it has to go with the rock and the way he's going to play it out but i love how people over the weekend were like the fucking zuproof from jfk and they were like he pointed when he said said this word and then he looked this way when he said this section of it. I'm like, you guys are insane, man. But this is what they need to do.
Starting point is 00:06:14 They need to go this angle with him. They need to play in the heel pool. Totally. And then go, see, this was the whole thing. Cody, because they could make this. They could spin this to make it look like that entire angle, even though there was a report that came out, I don't know if you saw it,
Starting point is 00:06:29 but the report was essentially said that what they said initially was, Triple H was going to do like an angle where Cody was hurt. Yes. And he was going to do, Cody was hurt. That's how they were going to explain the rock coming in. And then when the rock came in to replace him because the bloodline would kick the crap out of him or something. And then they were like, well, scene punk just got hurt. We can't do that.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Let's have him go against Seth Rollins instead. And then the rock will come out and they'll love it. And then they didn't love it. And Strip, they're just like, oh, my God, we got to get away from this. And then they did. So that was the report that had come out from a few different websites. But anyway, what they could do with all of that. and make it seem like you don't have to ever admit any of that.
Starting point is 00:07:09 They could say, basically, well, here's the deal. Cody in Cape Aid, Cody came to the Rock and said, hey, I need some help here. And the Rock said, look, the way that they keep winning, I know my family, I know them, the way that they keep getting involved. So we've got to spin it on them. We've got to get it within them. So as I'm going to consult, announce me as the opponent, say something about my grandkids. father and the thing i'll slap you i will be there for your back but we have to make them think
Starting point is 00:07:41 them i'm in and that's the storyline and it should be the storyline because it's a great storyline if they if they play it and they can you basically turn you know uh you turn what you had you had you had a bunch you had a bunch of maybe you thought it was old meat but it wasn't old meat it was actually it was it was one day past the expired date and you made it work and you made a good sauce out of it that's exactly how you do i smelled the milk i could still put it in the bowl of cereal that's a actually it's a great point. Yeah, I did think a little bit like this weekend was like the Rock's greatest hits is like you paid to see REO Speedwagon and they played all their greatest hits and everything. So for me, it was a little bit like, but it was nice to see the Rock embrace that
Starting point is 00:08:19 Hollywood Rock 2.0 is a lot of fun to see. My concern now is like, because everyone is predicting the turn now with all these Zaprude, like I said, Zepruder film type tweets, how do they swerve it now everyone sees it coming? Like, that's my concern. Does Roman start to get suspicious because this is an incredibly intelligent champion who's kept the belt for what over two years and going to break hogan's record possibly so if if they go that route they're going to have to figure out how to play it so that the rock you know convinces roman and any any of roman's doubts you know what i'm saying like the undercover cop that has to smoke the drugs to make it clear that he is a he is part of the crew so i'm curious to see how roman's going to test
Starting point is 00:09:02 the Rock's commitment to the bloodline, considering he just joined it. He didn't even put up the symbol correctly, which is an interesting point too. What they have there, what they have there is, though, that it's always like this kind of big brother thing. Yes, right.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Like Roman's blind. He doesn't see it or something. Yeah, that's good point, man. You always see it that way, and the fact that they're just trying to bring them down and you don't listen to these peons on Twitter saying this and that. So there's ways around that.
Starting point is 00:09:30 And I think the predictability of it, this what I hope and what it also seems by the way, even their last report that I said about what the plan that Triple H apparently had and then pivoted away, I think that it is a testament to why he is the guy that should be running it as opposed to old man creeps who would never back down. He would never back down. If he had the worst angle, he would stick his heels into it.
Starting point is 00:09:54 And he would have, he would have went with the rock and Roman. He would have went with all this stuff. He wouldn't have cared. He would have done exactly what he was supposed to do in his mind, right? And it's the same way that if they and there were reports of this all the time and I saw it. Yeah. If the fans predicted something, he'd then go away from it.
Starting point is 00:10:12 It's like if you have the right angle, whether the fans predicted or not, stick with your angle. It's going to work. Stick with your angle in the same way that, you know, this is a good angle. And it worked with Tyson and Stone Cold and all that stuff too. It's been recycled a million times over. Who cares? Who want to see it? Yeah, people want to see it.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Look, the chiefs got in. the Super Bowl again, one of the highest rate of Super Bowls ever in the history of, or the highest. So just because the angle is there to play, it doesn't mean you don't play the angle. So if it works, people are still going to want to watch, even if they figured it all out. Yeah, because you don't know how it's going to roll out. So you want to watch how it rolls out for sure. No, it's true. And so, yeah, so guys, very curiously, we started with the wrestling side of it here.
Starting point is 00:10:54 So if you guys, anything that you have to say about it, please let us know. I saw already tons of questions coming in, tons of super chats. where we're going to get to every single one of them. Appreciate them all coming in. So we, John and I stay here until it's all over and done this. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Keep throwing them in there for sure. It's only an item. So, well, let's go. Come on. Chop. Chop. Chop.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I had somebody, I wish you would have been on the show. We had to do a live on Friday. Live on on Friday. Well, I heard Winston was, I almost texted you and tried to volunteer myself to come on that. But my Friday got stacked.
Starting point is 00:11:25 So, but anyway, they were both on Friday. So what happened? Oh, they were on. What happened was Thursday. We usually pre-tape. I get capes and cows to the patrons on Thursday night early.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And I'm my setup for my new program that I've been using. I used the wrong slider and I didn't have any audio. So it was just coy talking coming. And so I edited this ridiculous piece together on Patreon. It's hilarious, but it's just nothing I could put out in the channel. Technology, man. Yeah. So on Friday, we did a live show.
Starting point is 00:11:59 but what was funny is that, you know, I, like I always tell people when they're watching. If you want to ask a question, you're able to, you need to, for you, of course. To break kneecaps, I don't do that. I say if you're able to do it and you do it. And as one guy goes, I'm not, I'm not paying to ask a question. I was like, no one asked you to. Yeah. Old you had to.
Starting point is 00:12:15 It's like, listen, if you can and you want to, then do it. If not, then just enjoy the conversation. And we're doing everything we can do here. But I was like, someone said, imagine Roka was here. And he said that. I was like, it's like, you're lucky. All right. And I'm only joking.
Starting point is 00:12:30 I don't, you know. Let's talk about this thing, man. Let's do it, man. Yeah. Yeah. So there is a major, major rumor going around that Henry Cavill is, is already been offered a role, apparently, in the MCU. And so here's the actual, the story itself. I mean, this didn't come from you guys, did it?
Starting point is 00:12:52 No, no, it was from my time to shine hello. Yeah, let me find. Sorry. So this is the rumor. Man, I still. star Henry Cavill has joined the MCU. I think Daniel RPK as well. Just good. All right. This is it.
Starting point is 00:13:04 My fancasting is finally going to come true. And then it follows up by saying, but not as Dr. Doom is what comic bookmovemoo. Josh Wilding, we're not taking this particular rumor too seriously, but of the latest online scuttlebutt. He's the word scuttlebutt. That's awesome. To be believed, Justice League star, Henry Cavill has already agreed to join the MCU.
Starting point is 00:13:25 So following a short-lived return as Superman and Black Adam, Henry Cavill finds himself without a superhero franchise, and Warner Brothers never treated the man of steel and Justice League star particularly well, and a leap to the MCU seems like a logical next step for the actor. According to a rumor shared by Scooper My Time to Shine, yeah, Cavill has been offered and accepted a mystery role in a future Marvel Studios project. This came after a fan shared their belief that he'd make a perfect Dr. Doom. Come on. In the, I've been saying this shit for eight months, perfect Dr. Doom and the Fantastic Poor reboot. That supposedly isn't, happening. So we're sure speculation will now run wild as to who Cavill will play. We don't expect
Starting point is 00:14:05 it to be a character even remotely similar to Superman, but with the multiverse on the table, we're sure Faggy has some fun ideas to mine for Cabo. A reboot of the X-Men franchise also on the horizon, and there are also movies as Spider-Man 4 and Blade. As a result, the possibilities are endless. Rumors have persisted for years that Cavill could join the MCU. The actor even commented that some pretty wild claims that he would appear in Loki Season 2 shortly after returning to the role of Superman at the end of 2022. As far as I know, I'm not going to be in Loki, he said at the time. It would be a trick you want to handle at this stage.
Starting point is 00:14:34 If James Gun can do it, maybe I can too. Let's see. And then what else? Of course, we go further back into the archives. In 2021, the Witcher alum had mostly put Superman behind him, and that in Caval also revealed a specific kind of Marvel character, he'd be open to playing. He said, I'm never going to say a Marvel character that is already being played by someone
Starting point is 00:14:54 else because everyone's doing such an amazing job. However, I had the internet and I've seen the various rumors about Captain Britain. Now it would be loads of funded to do a cool modernized version of that, like the way they modernize Captain America. That's something fun about that, and I do love being British. Okay, so I'll give you my unfortunate take and then my fingers crossed take. Okay. The unfortunate take is that I do think he's going to wind up playing Captain Britain. And it's nothing against the character.
Starting point is 00:15:24 I don't know anything about the character. but I just know it's not Dr. Doom. And I think that Captain Britain's another kind of role he's played before in the good guy role and the good guy superhero and that type of thing. I just think that having him is this kind of, I mean, he's in his 40s, not too far off from Pedro Vascall. They could be, they could be colleagues and he's imposing and you don't, yeah, he's hiding his face for a little bit. But I just think he would be the perfect doom. And I'm hoping it's a ruse. Yeah, it's interesting that you pointed out that you might think it's a rule.
Starting point is 00:15:56 ruse because my time to shine hello responded back to people who had said on February 16th when he said he was offered something else and he accepted in response to that Blu-ray Angel Blue Ray Angel said this would be the most insane casting announcement probably of all time for Dr. Dune to be Henry Cabell. My time to shine
Starting point is 00:16:14 hello said he was offered something else and he accepted but then he retweeted his own tweet from February 16th where he said that and on February 18th when he retweeted it he said actually my bad some of you guessed it. it right with eyes, with that eye emoji. So it's very possible that he is Dr. Doom.
Starting point is 00:16:32 You may get your fancasting. As you said, it's a great battle between Pedro Pascal and Henry Cavill, right? You've got two. The way to sell the movie even more. Yeah. And you've got two completely different looking guys. If you're going to play the love triangle, could be interesting to see Sue, be interested in both for different reasons.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I mean, there's also rumors about, you know, Submariner there with Tenochwerta as a possibility. So there's a lot of games to play here. I think he'd be perfect as Dr. Doom. Perfect. And people keep telling me there's no bad blood between James Gunn and Kevin Feige. But Feigey casting, the guy, the James Gun cast out, who was Superman, who people
Starting point is 00:17:06 loved his Superman, to play a huge part in the next phases. It just makes sense. It would be so, I mean, I'm hoping. I'm hoping that some of me, I'm hoping that somehow Fige got a handle of anybody talking about Cavill's Doom and said, wait a minute. And I always, you're a Yankee guy. I always equated to when Johnny Damon came over to the Yankees from the house. Cut your hair.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Hippie. And it's like, man, it would be such a, and that would be a great counter to, you have Pedro and Henry Cavill. That's your selling point. Those are the people that, oh, well, okay, Superman and the Last of Us guy. Okay, great. But what's, to the casual fan. That's who, oh, yeah, you know, who's in it. Well, Superman and the guy in the Last of Us to tell, that's what I tell my dad.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Yeah. You know, like, oh, okay, I like both those guys. And then you introduce all these amazing actors already surrounding them, and already cast to the casual fan. That's how you do it. And I think that, but I know everyone's going to go, well, but Dr. Doom's not even in this movie. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:18:10 He's going to be in a post-credit scene or maybe even. A small part. The small part, but he's going to have such a major part in Secret Wars, and he's going to have a major part in other stuff. And so I hope. Fingers crossed. But yeah, I think it's going to be, I think it'll be Captain Britain. and it's, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:26 as I'm doing the same kind of stuff again. I want to see him go off the different. He's got a dark edge to him. I want to see him. I'm saying. I don't know that Captain Britain is something that would excite him. Like it'd be nice to play it, sure, but they're not going to make Captain.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Captain is born of the West Coast Avengers. He's there with Hawkeye and the White Vision and all that stuff they want to play around with and rumors about a Scarlet Witch movie and all of that. So there's possibilities to play around with West Coast Avengers, but you're just part of a crew at West Coast Avengers. If he went to Doom, that's the way to go. Plus, if you're Cavill, do you go and play the leader of an ensemble crew from the West Coast that's an officer of the Avengers?
Starting point is 00:19:02 Or do you go, I'm not coming into Marvel unless I can kind of slightly stick it to James Gunn. Make me your focus. Make me your villain. There's an ego that's involved with these endless actors. You know this. I know, but I don't think he's got a particular beef towards James Gunn, though, as much as it's Warner Brothers. because James Gunn inherited the DC after all that stuff and that's just not the Superman movie he wanted to make. I never really hold. I never really hold my old my thing with with the confusing part of how Henry Cavill got screwed all that is like wait a minute you bring it when all those rumors like you're bringing Gallagadot back.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Yeah right. Like why you're not now now it just shows they were just saying that because they're trying to get any money that they could get for those old movies. Yeah. They didn't have they weren't going to bring anybody back unless somehow those movies want to make it a lot of money. Right. Like, Mo is not coming back as awkward. man, I'd probably come back as a lobo. But whether or not James Gunn wants to work with Henry Cabell is a separate conversation.
Starting point is 00:19:57 But that wasn't his fault as much. It was like the previous regime really screwed Henry Cavill. And even David Zazlov, well, I'm not a really a fan of. He's not even necessarily to blame for the Cavill stuff because it was before his time too. Yeah. Rock's going to talk to him into it. Yeah. And talking him into it, though, like that there was a lot of promises made to him by other.
Starting point is 00:20:19 things and get screwed by the studio system. But nonetheless, the DC brand is a taintiff. You know, and he just like, so he still would be sticking it to whoever is there, Warner Brothers and Gun or whoever it is, not necessarily because he's got a beef towards them, but it's more of a beef like, well, this is what happened to me. I'm joining Marvel and I'm going to join as this one because I think the risk with like right now with like, to me, Dr. Doom is a more sure bet of a iconic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Um, you, if you do it the right way, you're going to be another icon like Superman. You're going to be a, uh, Dr. Duma has a chance to be as, as big as Thanos. Yes, 100%. And to have it as Henry Cavill, as opposed to just, you know, I don't know, I don't, I haven't liked any of the other potential cast. And I like, I love Killy Murphy. It's like, you for the role. Uh, yeah, yeah, hate the Mads-Mickleson choice. I love Matt's Mickelson. Think we've been in, he's been in movies, he's been in an emcee array. doesn't
Starting point is 00:21:16 um so and people who keep using well so does ebbin uh masbogrague he's been in the mccu before he was in daredevil the punisher i'm like yeah but that was kind of like those are sports roles but it was also like champion they didn't even know it was canon until like two weeks ago right like oh we're going to make a canon now so that doesn't he's got a he's got a doppelganger yeah yeah yeah jama chan is more the one you can make it more of a connection because they both she was both in two mccu movies so yeah right she was so she was an internal
Starting point is 00:21:46 Captain Marvel and then Eternals. Was she in Captain Marvel? She's one of the people at the beginning, and I think one of the Cree or whatever in the beginning there with the blue. Yeah, she's lost in the mix with John Monsor. Right. So you can get away with stuff like that. But you can't get away with the main villain in Dr. Strange.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that. Someone said Cabell is Magneto. What do you think about that? Is that too big of a role? No. That's a, that's pretty great. I don't know. That's pretty great.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Magneto? I mean, but look, the thing is with that is it, it's like, you've got to go, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, it just, it depends on who you're who you're professor ex is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love the doctor. I've been, I've been saying the Dr. Doom thing for, you know, people are sick of me saying.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Well, let me ask you a follow up then, because both Dr. Doom and Captain Britain are under masks. Right. So, whereas Doom is, I think it's from, you know, getting burnt or whatever and what happened in his country versus Captain Britain, who just wears the mask so yeah could be interesting you know more that's again more realistic why it probably cap in britain because you don't want to keep kenry henry cabl behind a mask the entire time but remember in secret wars the comic was that big reveal he showed and his face was fine
Starting point is 00:23:00 yeah yeah right so so who knows again my face is fine who knows um by the way i have to thank everybody see all the super just coming in and i really appreciate it we will get to them don't worry um okay we have a lot of other things to talk about i mean tons of stuff to talk about before I want to tell you guys real quick about two of our wonderful sponsors. I've talked to you guys about both Magic Spoon and Fume. I'm going to talk about both of them right now. Here you go. Let's talk about some habits because you guys know you got some habits.
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Starting point is 00:27:12 John, I've been talking about it, man. I love Magic Spoon and oh and I got um I let you it was two days ago my wife was like my wife yeah my wife she goes she's like your magic spoon is at the front door and I ran to the front door and I was like so excited I and last night because I've been I have certain things that I can eat now that I can't eat now at past like eight o'clock at night so I was like I was I barreled through all my Magic Spoon. I had eaten all of it. And I'm like, oh, I got no more left. And then it got here. And it's like, I just last night in the middle of this like intense family conversation, just eating a bowl of chalk and peanut butter, like shoveling this. It's, it is great.
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Starting point is 00:28:20 other things here. This is not a positive story, I don't think. I mean, look. Oh, by the way, I got to ask you this, because you never know with the hyperbole on the internet. Did you say that Madam Webb was one of your highly anticipated movies of the year? No. Hell no. Someone said, ask
Starting point is 00:28:36 Broke why it was this highly anticipated movie. It wasn't. He's a lie. Really? I mean, look, look, if it was, it was. Maybe it might. No, no, I think they're being sarcastic because I was so not looking forward to that movie. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Well, here, I don't think anybody is anymore because the movie ate a big pile of duty. The musical biopic Bob Marley, one look, came in higher than expectations at this box office weekend. The film pulled in 27.7 over the traditional Friday Sunday. It's on track for 51 million over the six-day stretch from Valentine's Day this past weekend from the presidency holiday. that's well above the projections of a 30 to 35, 6 million. That's, I mean, that's way above. That's way above. So, fueled by a superb word of mouth reviews from audiences
Starting point is 00:29:22 who have braced the film in a ways of the critics have none. Overseas, the film took in an additional $29 million from 47 territories from opening weekend globally of $80 million, already overtaking in $70 million budget. It easily beat Sony's superhero tale, my damn web, which came in second with 17.6. oof, 17.6. Ouch. Over the traditional weekend is now slowly spinning out to 25.8 million during the same six-day period domestically. Its overseas hall is 25.7 million from 61 markets.
Starting point is 00:29:56 The numbers are dismal no matter which way you cut it. The film costs 80 million to produce and it looks unlikely to make that back. Good on them for only spending 80 on it, though. I'll tell you that. For real. I'm not even kidding around. Can you imagine if this thing would have cost, the traditional 150,200, people's head be rolling around on the floor.
Starting point is 00:30:15 It's true. Review scores are either on par or below that of Morbius, and its box office is definitely less. Audiences scores are dismal, and there's no savior from overseas either. Matthew Vaughn's Argyle was a distant third of 4.72 over the three-day weekend. Migration was fourth with 3.7, and Wanka. Wanka with fifth, 3.49. The Wanka has now passed a $600 million worldwide mark.
Starting point is 00:30:39 That is a smash hit, by the way. So smash it. 100%. The overall President's Day weekend is looking to be the worst in modern day history. Sands pandemic impacted 2021. Overall domestic revenue is roughly $75 million for three days and 89 for four. The lowest collective number since 95 and a far cry from the heights. That's not fair, though, because you're not really paying.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I mean, well, it shouldn't say it's not fair. They're just stating facts. But there's also not a lot of substance in the fact that this strikes and they move things. And Bob Marley was supposed to come out in January at one point. They moved it to February because they had to move things out of February that they wanted to have in February. So I think I like Bob Marley more than most critics. Did you see it? No, I'm seeing it today, actually, because of the...
Starting point is 00:31:24 It's a paint by numbers biopic, and there's certain things that I... The music's fan, I mean, it's Bob Marley, but the scenes themselves in the way that they put together the music, I love the music part of it. I love the music part of it. And I thought, you know, I think it went to given, like, it was like 3.1 or 3.2 out of five. Fine. It would be,
Starting point is 00:31:44 it wouldn't fresh for me on, on Rotten Tomatoes, but I can see why it completely won, because people are, I want to go to the movies this weekend. Well, we want to see that superhero movie? No,
Starting point is 00:31:53 I'm over superhero movies, but is that new one any good? No, I heard it's terrible. Then the hell with that. Let's go watch something else. Yeah. And people,
Starting point is 00:31:59 let's go smoke a fatty watch and watch. Right. You can imagine how many times that conversation had. I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:32:09 um, so anyway, love his music. They don't know like all his story and the political stuff and which I hear the film doesn't fully dive into it. It talks about it, but doesn't fully dive into it. So, yeah, I mean, one particular. Yeah, I mean, it does. It does.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Okay. But maybe not all in this one particular circumstance it does. Sorry, go ahead. No, I was just saying, I got to see it because, I mean, there's so much with Bob and stuff with Peter Tosh and the stuff with his wife and the stuff with cheating on his wife and then stuff with the cancer and how he dies. I hear it's only just about the making of one particular album. So if that's all they're focusing on, then I have a different perspective going into the movie. Well, yeah, as long as it's, it's, you're close.
Starting point is 00:32:51 You're close. Okay. But you're not wrong in that if you go in with that mindset up. Because I, that was the same thing with me going in. I thought it was, I wanted to see more of a traditional biopic stuff. I know you're obviously a big fan of the biopic. Some people are like, I've seen it a million times over, but I actually wanted to see how he was discovered, how he did this,
Starting point is 00:33:10 I wanted to see all that. And they show snippets of it. Like you said, there's snippets of all the stuff that you mentioned. There's snippets of it. But it is really focused in on this one particular event. But I knew that going in. So I think that that's why I enjoyed it. But Madam Webb was just facing everything wrong with it.
Starting point is 00:33:28 And I think I do think that it's going to, I think this is going to really hurt Craven. I really do think it's going to run for it. Because I think it's a little bit from Sony. well yeah and it's the and they keep using the same writers who you know write terrible stuff and I don't care how much the script changed or the studio was involved or all this kind of stuff like at the end of the you know like I don't know what's going on behind the scenes at a football team but I blame the quarterback or the head coach if the team doesn't perform that you know I'm sure
Starting point is 00:33:59 they changed the game plan multiple times behind the scenes but all I care about is what happens on game day I have to analyze what I see on game day just like analyze what we see when we go see the movie. And so to me, this is, I think they've hit that point, kind of like DC did, right, as we saw with the results from Shazam 2. Sure. But who's the quarterback in that situation? What's Sony? Who's your, who's the head coach? The quarterback is, uh, S.J. Clark's the owner. I think that the owner. Fine. The director is the question. I think the director is just as much to blame though. I don't, I don't think it's, I don't think it's fair to always say, well, it's the studio's fault. I agree. Oh, yeah. I'm not saying, I'm not saying that it's not the,
Starting point is 00:34:38 the studios don't get involved a lot of times and put the course they do but to just say that all for for everything i had this conversation with coy like last week where it's like okay we're gonna there's there's sometimes and i brought up gavin hood remember gavin hood who did satsy i interviewed gavin at the collider he's great guy awesome Kevin's awesome but he was he was pushed around by the studio when he did wolverine origins right right and i think his movie would have been stifely better that's a situation where i do think the studio got it let me add something to this yeah There are 20 minutes of the interview that I had with Gavin Hood that I had to cut out because he spoke about what actually happened behind the scenes. And if you guys heard what he actually said, you'd have a whole different perspective of how Gavin Hood went about.
Starting point is 00:35:24 And I still have those 20 minutes for one day maybe being able to use it. I got to look at it. Gavin Hood is an untold story. Yes, 100%. So it does happen. But I also think because of that, people go, oh, it was a studio. There's a studio. There are some choices in this movie.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Studio or not are just poorly directed. Like, there's, you've seen, you've seen the movie, obviously. You know, there's one scene that I brought up, and I'll bring it up again, where, and nobody cares if you're spoiling this movie at this point. The villain, who's terrible, is chasing them around in the subway, and he's got him. Yeah. He's dead. What's he do?
Starting point is 00:35:57 It beats up the cops. It beats up 20 cops and lets them get away on foot. Right. And then one of the girls, if you look at it, it's so bad. And it's performed. It's performance, but it's directed performance. Yeah. She looks and she goes like this.
Starting point is 00:36:11 And it's like, it's awful. Yeah. And so there's this, but so I'm going back to what you were saying. Start with the owners of the team because they hired the coach in the first place. Right. And gave the and said, but this time the owners did say, follow this game plan. Right, right, right. And maybe the, you know, the director goes, there's only so much I can do.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Right. But even what you could do wasn't great. Yeah. No, exactly. And that's why you, you know, and obviously there were some videos over the weekend and all of that trying to, and I totally respect that. You want to defend your fellow creatives. I think that's fair with your point of view. But our job when we watch a movie is to analyze and see what went right, what went wrong.
Starting point is 00:36:50 And it's clear that this was not a well-directed movie. And S.J. Clarkson, I know people want to defend her and respect to her for sure, but you've got a Game of Thrones pilot that didn't go with Naomi Watts. The Star Trek thing fell through for whatever reason. and now this. And so you have to wonder at some point, the common denominator is one person. And I wonder what her next step is going to be. Does she go to kind of independent film?
Starting point is 00:37:14 Does she go back to TV? Yeah. What is her situation? But the actresses too. I mean, like, look, Celeste O'Connor, I think, did a great. Not great. How did I say this?
Starting point is 00:37:22 She did an equitable. I think Celeste O'Connor is the one I had the problem with. Yeah, okay, fair point. She's a very young actress. I like the other. I keep forgetting her name. Isabella Merced. She was great.
Starting point is 00:37:32 She was the best. She was the best. Agreed 100%. She was great. She did what she could with that role. Exactly. Yes. I thought she was the best out of it.
Starting point is 00:37:43 But anyway, nonetheless, the movie ate a big pile of duty. It just ate duty. And so it's going to be, and unfortunately, it's become, it's going to become like a punchline now. It's one of those movies. It's like Ishtar. You know, it's like one of those. It's an Ishtar movie now. It's like, it's Pluto Nash.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Right. It's one of those movies now, which is kind of like a, you know, and you hear about it, which is unfortunate for any time you're working on anything. I know, but yeah. But what is it too? I mean, what do we do here with Dakota Johnson, man? Like,
Starting point is 00:38:14 it's, like, he's there, you know, everything. I love her. You do, really,
Starting point is 00:38:19 you do. I love everything. I don't care. I'm not going to hold it, I'm not going to hold Madam Webb against her. There's about 10 other films, man. All right,
Starting point is 00:38:26 fine, fine. Everybody can. I'm not. Okay. Fair points. You see that, you look at that Hollywood premiere outfit?
Starting point is 00:38:33 I, don't, well, I mean, if you know the film's not going to sell, you know, I guess. I'm not telling you about why. I'm saying, did you see the outfit? Yeah, I don't have the same feelings you do. So that's, I respect your point of view on it. That's your fault. Okay. Yeah, very point. What else we got? We got a lot of stuff. Don't give me a deal with her dad again. No, that was hilarious. I wish you could give me that clip. I love that clip. That was the best. hilarious. All right. Let's talk about this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Robert Pattinson reportedly spotted on the penguin set. What? As filming wraps. It's from Mark Asen. It's from Mark Asen. Though we don't have any photographic evidence, reports coming in from the set of Max's The Penguin are claiming that Robert Pattinson has been spotted. A rumor did the rounds last year that Pattinson would reprise his role as Bruce Wayne for the upcoming
Starting point is 00:39:33 Max spin-off to Penguin, and we may now have confirmation that the Cape Crusader will make an appearance. Some new photos from in and around the Penguin set have been shared online, and while none of them actually feature patents an in-costum character, the actor was reportedly spotted filming scenes for the show. If true, this is a very smart move. A penguin-focused story could work without the bat, but it only makes sense that Gotham City's protector would drop in at least once to keep an eye on Oz and keep up their dynamic for Matt Reeves, the Batman part, too. We don't imagine Pattinson will have anything close to a substantial role. In fact, we'll see you probably show up in one episode, the season finale, most likely.
Starting point is 00:40:11 This is as much of a no-brainer as you're going to get. You've got to have a minute. At least for one, yeah, in the season finale and you get everybody watching, he's got to have a minute because this is the lead-up to part two. Why wouldn't you have it? This is Matt Reeves, and it's, you know, it's his universe with what he's creating. So what does it cost Pattinson, and I'm sure they paid him well, to come in and do, a scene plus he's doing it with Colin Farrell, which is a very well-respected actor. They're both, you know, actors over there in the UK and what have you.
Starting point is 00:40:39 And so I think it could absolutely, it absolutely makes all the sense of the world to have him in there and have an interaction because I like their chemistry in the Batman, you know, like every scene they had together was fucking gold. So why not have them come back and play a little part in an episode? 100%. It's like, it's a massive, you know, like, but it's, but you're building out this universe. Yeah, exactly. Building out this universe, you get into a part two, the first one people really enjoy it,
Starting point is 00:41:06 and you're getting closer to the second one, and you should absolutely build up that. And it also ties together this whole thing, and it, I think it'd be weird if he didn't show up at least once, because you'd be like, where is he? Yeah. And then he shows up, you're like, okay, yeah. And it also brings legitimacy to the show itself and to the fact that they're like, well, they didn't want to pay patents and to be there. And it's like one episode. It shows up for one episode. He's in the finale for a quick scene.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Great. Yeah. Like what's our complaints on Spider-verse? There's no Spider-Man. So like if you don't have a Spider-Man, why are you doing these movies? Because after a while, you're just doing too many of them without him that it becomes ridiculous. Same situation here. You got to have him come in for one. And as you said, it leads to his sequel film, which he's the star of, so it only serves his needs as well. Yeah, exactly. So what do you guys think? Good move, bad move. And again, see all the Super Chats. I can't thank you enough. We're going to be getting into all of them really, really soon here. as we kind of close up some of these topics. The other one is, speaking of the Rock, we talked about it before. A live action Moana movie will start filming later this year, according to the Rock. According to the Rock,
Starting point is 00:42:13 the choice to make the Moana animation series into a theatrical sequel will not cause any delays for Moana's live action adaptation. Mark Julian, comic book movie. An animated Moana series for Disney Plus has been in the works for quite some time, but that's all changing,
Starting point is 00:42:27 according to Bob Eiger. It appears that Disney analyzed the streaming statistics from Moana where it has consistently ranked near the top and determined that the next project should be another movie as we heard a couple weeks ago a cartoon series is being repurposed into an animated movie a cartoon series is being repurposed as an animated movie between the one yeah rock johnson returning his maui okay uh never mind so where does that leave the recently announced plans for the live action adaptation according to the rock it's going to start filming this year he also said that they found an actress to portray the live action moana and but they don't want to reveal her
Starting point is 00:43:01 at this time. They said, Lin-Manuel Miranda is coming back. We're doing the music. Tommy Kale is our director, who directed Hamilton. He said, well, speaking to entertainment tonight, you put everything together and you want to put the best team together and you really go for it. And I asked when the cameras roll. He said they're excited to start shooting later this year while also touching on the global search to find the young actress. One of the exciting things about that was actually finding our
Starting point is 00:43:26 Moana and how exciting that has been. The global search to find our Moana, which between you and I, we found her. I'm not going to tell you yet. It is very exciting. As far as returning from Moana 2, which it sounds that the Rock is going to be on board, Johnson said, it's very exciting. I can't wait for the fans to see the film, the tech, the effects, the cutting edge. We really went for it.
Starting point is 00:43:45 We thought if we're going to make a sequel to something beloved, then let's go for it. Okay, well, that answered the question. We're like, is he coming back? And I think he answered the question a little while ago when he posted on his, after they announced that they were doing part 2, he posted on an Instagram that part 2 was coming out. So it would be silly for them. You can't. do that movie without him.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I think, I think he officially confirmed it like on Friday or Thursday, right after we'd done the hot mic and someone had asked us a question, we went on for like 10 minutes about it. But yeah, clearly they had to work out a deal. You had to get paid a certain amount or else they were going to bring a new voiceover actor to come in and voice the role.
Starting point is 00:44:17 So it wouldn't have made sense. So I'm sure they locked it down and now he's good to go. It's yet another reason why they're going to turn a baby face again in wrestling because one or two comes out at the end of the year. So, and if you notice, Even there was a video of him behind the scenes after Smackdown last week where there's a kid in the front row. He goes to give him a bump.
Starting point is 00:44:40 And Rock in 2000 or 2000 or 1996 is going to look like, get your hand out of my face, whatever, too. But Rock, Rob, Bob them. He can't mess with his brand that much. He's going to, he's going to rip people on the mic. He's going to have fun until the reveal. And that's what they should do. They don't need him to be part of. the bloodline. They need them to fight the bloodline, but they need it. But this, this was a good
Starting point is 00:45:04 pivot again for both Brian Gorwitz and, and Rock saying, let's make you heal for a little bit. Yeah. By the time we get to Moana, you'll be back. People will love you again because we'll maneuver it the right way. And it actually helped the brand more than, than her. And so by doing this and having Moana, the live action one come out also, the WAA, the W&WE call, because you as the biggest rock turncoat that I know. You got to admit, though, even though you didn't like a lot of the stuff that he did, maybe over the last, like, month or even with Black Adam, this strategy now, if this is indeed the strategy of him, playing it up, going heel, turning good, Moana Live Action, Moana Part 2, this is a good way to get back on track.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Yeah, 100%. And look, I'm not a turncoat. I resent that. what I am is a person who calls out the people he cares about and his friends if he thinks they're on the wrong path. And that's all I was doing. Because it was from love, man. It's from a place of love because I want him to be better.
Starting point is 00:46:07 But yeah, I think it's a smart one. And I think this is a really smart move by them. And they've turned it around. And that's what smart people do in this business, man. They understand, okay, we've been thrown a curveball. How do we make this work for us? Look at a long-term goal. Let's lay down some posts into ground.
Starting point is 00:46:21 So we hit these goals. So we get to the overall goal. And that's what it seems like they're doing. now timing wise with all the stuff because yeah the rock can't just go healer face there's much more involved with his worldwide global brand now that he has to be aware of when he do when he does these things he's not just a wrestler anymore no um okay so the other thing that i want to there's there's another where's another story that i wanted to get to oh well let's talk about this dune right that's this is the first big movie that is coming out really this um yeah
Starting point is 00:46:55 Because I think that, what was it, Dune, Dune 2 is already, people are raving about it. Crazy. People saw it last week and people are losing their minds talking about how great the movie is. I told you guys a while ago, I had heard somebody who kind of worked on it. And again, it wasn't just nonsense. It was people who were just like, look, and basically tell me as much. I'm not just blowing smoke as I'm close to this thing. This is an awesome movie.
Starting point is 00:47:22 And then those were, those were. that was confirmed by a lot of the critics who have already seen it. Yeah. And now advanced ticket sales for Denisville News Dunei Part 2 are reportedly exceeding those for Oppenheim. Hey! Hey! Wow.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Wow. The box office longevity of a relaunched June franchise is still uncertain as Warner Brothers chose to distribute the first film in theaters and HBO Max simultaneously because of the COVID-19. However, when De Neville-Lenew's sequel hits on March 1st, we'll be able to see if it's a billion-dollar cinematic epic that WB believes it is. Currently, Dune Part 2 is tracking for a $65 million open debut. The site also notes that advanced ticket sales are outpacing Oppenheimer at the same juncture. Advanced ticket sales remained accessible to the public on January 26 and with so much time until
Starting point is 00:48:12 Dune Part 2. It's crucial to note that the early tracking figures could rise or fall if advanced tickets begin to stall. It's also worth noting that the advanced ticket sales that are outpacing Oppenheimer aren't a guarantee that June is headed for a 900 million plus. The Christopher Nolan directed Epic enjoyed her long theater run near the hop of the box office, thanks in part to pairing with Barbie. Still, Warner Brothers Accountants have to be pleased with what they're seeing so far. All right, I said, look, this is my number one most anticipated movie of the year. It was on my list.
Starting point is 00:48:42 It was my number one. I cannot wait to see it. I finally saw part one at my home screen, and then I went to go see it with Winston in the theater a month ago. And I'm so glad that I did. I cannot wait to see this movie. I'm going to see it tomorrow and I'm pumped. Cannot wait. I don't think it's going to make a billion dollars. And I've never wanted to be wrong more. I just don't think it's going to make a billion dollars because I just think about it. Well, I think it's going to make way more than the first one. I think it's going to make a lot more because even I talked to my brother yesterday. He's like,
Starting point is 00:49:11 I just rewatch Dune again because I'm excited for the second one. Man, I forgot how good the first one was. And I mentioned to you, they met Sarah. massive fan massive fan of doom can't wait and people who are just pumped for this movie pumped I cannot wait for it I hope
Starting point is 00:49:31 it makes a billion I hope it makes 900 I think it crosses like the the 6 to 7 and that's a good number what's our bet on is it on joke or two what's our bed on no Deadpool Deadpool right you don't think Deadpool's going to hit 800 million or 750 I think it's
Starting point is 00:49:46 I think it's going to answer you think it isn't going to answer No, I think he'd have a billion. You think it did? I said it didpoos. Man, what are you talking? We have it on video. We have it on video where I'm saying it's going to break a billion.
Starting point is 00:50:00 I'm not going to argue with that. I said to bill you said, go back and watch the tape. You're pulling Mike Kalinowski here. How dare you? It's on film. You said it was going to make a billion. He wasn't going to make a billion. No, I said it was going to make a billion.
Starting point is 00:50:14 We'll go back and watch the tape. I knew this was going to happen. Go ahead and finish for your saying about it. go ahead yeah i think dude is going to make a bill maybe 1.5 to be honest with you because as you said it's the first film of the year that people are excited about people want to go back
Starting point is 00:50:30 to the theaters if the film is his incredible rocococicicumina max and christ said he bed at 750 and we'll just find the video tip i don't trust your fans they always take your sides trust your mouth when you say it in the words unless you think it's day i want to see the video somebody cut out the clip and put it up on twitter and then we have i will fully admit
Starting point is 00:50:47 it. But no, I think it's going to make, oh, maybe I didn't think it was going to make. Yeah, but I think Dune 2 is going to make $1.5, to be honest, because as I said, people want to go back to theater. People want to go over and over again. There's not much competition out there. And clearly Oppenheimer John Wick 4 showed us that audiences will sit in theaters for long-ass movies if they're entertained. So I think this film clearly from all the reviews from the critics so far, and I'm seeing it tomorrow night as well, brother, clearly puts it in the camp that it could be a repeat watch for a lot of people that's what's going to drive it past a billion maybe to 1.5. 1.5 is is a lot of money too that's that's that's on on in march first with
Starting point is 00:51:31 the amount of competition that it's that it's also going to have it you got godzilla and con coming out you got ghost busters coming out yeah ghost's busters is more of a family movie than dune is um 1.5 is is is crazy It's crazy. 1.5 is crazy. But I hope you're right. I was saying, man. But I hope you're right. 1.5 is something I definitely want to see it.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Make. I just don't think it well. Anyway, very curious to what you guys think. And then also, if somebody could, you know, comb the footage and show me the bet where Roka was wrong. And Roka said, apparently now Roker thought Deadpool was going to make a billion. Maybe I didn't think it was going to make a bit. You definitely.
Starting point is 00:52:14 We'll get the video. Anyway. Okay. Now, before we move on, we're going to get to your questions now. Good point. It's 21 days before Ghostbusters, Frozen Empire. It's tough. It's tough.
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Starting point is 00:58:25 That's right. A lot of great questions. That's good stuff. Elusive Rock. Who should be the first X-Men mutant to get a solo film? My money's on Gambit or Iceman. No.
Starting point is 00:58:35 It goes with Wolverine. I think Wolverine is the safe bet in the same way that D.C. is doing Superman. I think it's the safe bet. introduced the new Wolverine. And I think that what they should do, and I've been saying this, and I hope that this is the strategy, in the same way that they made Iron Man, the Hulk, Thor, make all your single
Starting point is 00:58:53 X-Men movies and then do a big X-Men movie. Yeah. That's what I hope they did they do. Who should be the first one, John? It's got to be Wolverine or Gene Gray. It's either one of the two. And there's rumors that what we got in the Deadpool Wolverine trailer, the guy from behind, the patch possibly character playing poker from behind.
Starting point is 00:59:09 That could be the new Wolverine, and that's why they roll them out. So, but yeah, it's got to be Wolverine or it's got to be Gene Gray. Everyone else, I'm sorry, you're going to hate when I say this, but everyone else is lower on the rankings. You don't think? No, people don't know these guys. It's Wolverine or Gene Gray. That's who they know. Really?
Starting point is 00:59:25 You think Gene Gray is bigger than Cyclops? Oh, I think she's bigger than Cyclops, 100%. Dark Phoenix and all of that? Come on. Every time they try to do a Dark Phoenix movie, it's Eden Farts. It's because it's written by the same fool every time, and he's not good at it. Kinberg. Poor Kenberg.
Starting point is 00:59:38 I like Kimber. He's nice guy. Not the best at that movie, though. Carlton Rudder with the success of Barbie and Oppenheimer in 2023 and Maverick in 2022, do you see a swing of the pendulum away from common movies back to standalone movies? It's not a pendulum swing as much as it's show me good movies and I'll come watch it. Yeah, yeah. But I do think there is something to that and I think in the same way that, you know, another one you could throw in there is Avatar, right? I think that big movies are still
Starting point is 01:00:04 are still going to be a massive thing, but I do think that there is something about there's just, And it's like any time there was a, when 3D was popular, every movie was 3D and people got sick of it and went away. The studios will overdo something. And this is what happened with Marvel. It's what happened with it. It's just, you're overdoing it. I think that Marvel has a chance to reset and come back and be just as popular as they
Starting point is 01:00:29 always were. But I do think it does lend itself to get these other movies into a bigger spot. Yeah, it's just the kind of thing that you have to understand. Like, old people love to go to the movies. And so if you're going to make films that appeal to older people, they will go see it more and more. Young people and old people. That's where it's the middle ground is where you're trying to build your career.
Starting point is 01:00:46 You don't have as much time. You're not on top of it. You're trying to establish yourself. But as you get older, you've hopefully got in a position where you can go see movies and go see them over and over again and enjoy them. So you're appealing to that crowd with these adult movies. So yeah, I think that's the approach.
Starting point is 01:01:02 And they're just making pivots, not full-on changes to some of these tent pole pictures. Yeah. All right. Mike Joyce, are you too excited for driveaway dolls? Let me tell you, this movie. Yeah? I don't know anything about it. I got to say, I skipped a screening the other day, even though it's the Cohen brothers.
Starting point is 01:01:21 So I was just like, I'll wait until it comes out in the theaters and I'll see it in the theaters. I've heard no buzz for this movie. I didn't even know it was out. I thought, I thought you meant it was coming out in like six months. I have no idea. Felix, thanks Felix. It puts in a super chat. Thanks, Kenneth Golden.
Starting point is 01:01:36 I know there's a Patreon, but if you added a YouTube member, Should I join that for these live streams? Salute, gentlemen, have a great week. You know, people have recommended that to me. I don't, I think that yet another thing. I just don't know enough about it. And I'm like, it's just one more thing to add at the current moment. Because I haven't announced it yet, but I'm going to start a separate YouTube channel soon.
Starting point is 01:01:57 And that's one more thing that I'm going to have on my plate. So starting memberships also. I don't know. I don't know. Okay. Let's say, Mike Joyce. Have you seen that SOR Open AI creepy? What if all these videos released by Soul Foundation or Big Con by Saur Open IA or another company?
Starting point is 01:02:12 Well, the Soul Foundation videos were people talking at a conference. So it wasn't any, there was nothing AI about that. So that's, that wouldn't make any sense. But I have seen that open AI. And that's like, it's pretty, it's pretty nuts. Have you seen it? No, I haven't. I try to stay away from AI stuff, man.
Starting point is 01:02:29 It's pretty crazy, dude. I don't want to see it. They just through voice through text, basically saying, I think this one that I saw was a woman walking through Japan and she's oh and all that kind of stuff and it I did see that it looked like real footage yeah Adam Blaback retweeted that from Heroes Reforged and I was like
Starting point is 01:02:45 what the fuck is this yeah you know it was crazy did you see let me ask you this did you see the animation for the NBA All Star game yesterday no they were showing the All Star game with scenes from the game that were immediately AI animated to mirror beyond
Starting point is 01:03:02 the Spiderverse and across the Spiderverse yeah and one of the I think Lord of Miller reached it out and said, we didn't get any notification they were doing this. They didn't clear this with us at all. And this is so now I wonder if their lawyers are involved. What a mistake by the NBA not to even reach out to the creators, you know? Yeah, it's like it's the NBA. It's like, you're not just going to be, well, there's no rule. The hell there isn't. Right. Um, okay, Ralph, favorite movie sex scene. Don't have to answer. Um, I mean, there's a lot of good ones, but I, the first thing, I'm trying to think first thing it pops in my head is like, it's not
Starting point is 01:03:34 necessarily sex scene, but it's just like the basic instinct is always going to be there. Sure. Yeah. I'm not a but I'm not a Sharon Stone person. Like I've never found her attractive. For me, the sexiest scene is the scene with him in Gene Triplehorn when he like takes her. Yeah, that's a good one too. That's a good one too. Um, all right,
Starting point is 01:03:54 Mad Sinister Macal. Love the show Harle from watching since Shadows. No. We ever do a top 20 favorite movies ever. What is your worst theater experience? Um, all right. So the top 20, I, you know, thought about i i actually when ellis always breaks my chops because something i wanted to do when we were shmows i wanted to do a top 100 just because there's just so many top 20 would be so tough and put them out you know sporadically i just don't know again it's just like kind of like a dream of because i don't know if i'm going to actually do it worst theater experience i'm going to cheat
Starting point is 01:04:24 the answer a little bit i've told the story before on on the air before and i have to tell it again because it has to be the worst theater experience for someone that I was involved with. Hey! So I, I'm sure I told you this story, John. I think I told it on S-E-N before, but I'll tell it again for those newer people who are in here. I went to see the movie Bruno with my wife, and it was a pack theater, and my wife had packed us kind of like snacks and stuff instead, and she packed this, and it's right before, I'm a sparkling water, like,
Starting point is 01:05:01 fanatic now, but I never was. And so I started drinking, she brings this big bottle of Trader Joe's sparkling berry water, right? Do you remember this story? No, I don't. Please keep telling it. So it's packed. The theater's packed. Everybody's sitting next to each other, and she brings this bottle
Starting point is 01:05:17 out, and I can't get it open. And the movie's about to start. I can't get it open. And finally, I twist it, and it comes up flying out like a fire hose. Oh, wow. nails the guy next to me right in his face. And he goes, horrible,
Starting point is 01:05:33 horrible, and I go, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Oh, my God. I'm so sorry. And the lights go down.
Starting point is 01:05:42 And the movie starts. And this guy's face is just covered in very stark. And I can smell it on his face. Oh, thinking, and the whole time, I think God, this is a comedy because I was not even paying attention to the movie.
Starting point is 01:05:57 I couldn't tell you anything about it. Any time there was a little moment that the theater started laughing, I started laughing uncontrollably because I was thinking about, huddle, hubble, huddle, and the guy was probably just like, that is to this day, probably the worst thing that ever happened. Wow. Horrible. So that, I think that I'll speak for him.
Starting point is 01:06:19 You got one? Oh, oh, I got one, yeah. I'm going to try to do it in 30 seconds. I went on a date with one of my, who does the clean teeth cleaning? What do they call those dental orthodox? whatever like we floated at the office so we went on a date went to go see the um the one with ben stiller and uh edy murphy where they tower heist right i i get sit next to a pregnant woman and her husband and this pregnant woman thinks that i am taking the armrest and that my leg is purposely
Starting point is 01:06:47 bumping her leg so she switches with her husband i have no idea this is going on by the way she switches with her husband and i move my arm to grab my soda and he yanks his elbow hard into my and we go at it. I mean, like, actually fighting? Yeah, verbally, like loud as shit. I was like, what the fuck is your problem?
Starting point is 01:07:07 And she's like, you were in my space. And I said, why didn't you fucking say anything? It would have totally moved over. You're pregnant. I would have totally understood that. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:07:14 I'm a big guy. Sometimes I don't know if I'm crossing, like, my physical space. So I was like, why didn't you just tell me? Why did you physically assault me? So it was a whole thing. They got the manager.
Starting point is 01:07:23 The manager came in. And of course, I didn't go out on another date with this girl. But it was the worst experience because he literally, hit me and I'm like oh you know yeah that's probably bad that's probably bad but you'll see there berry soda
Starting point is 01:07:34 on your face no I didn't did he wipe his face did he go to the bathroom at least he wiped his face I think I gave him a napkin I think I gave him a napkin I say here you because I was I because I it dude it hit him you remember you remember first blood when they sprayed on with the hose it was like that
Starting point is 01:07:50 it sounds like a champagne celebration it hit him so hard in the face it came out at a hundred miles an hour it hit it it looked The other, again, this is going off, the other deliberate, there's two things in my life that I felt, people thought it was deliberate. Like that, the guy must have thought it was deliberate, but it clearly wasn't because I was so apologetic on it. The other thing was my father-in-law loves Akitas. He's had Akitas, all of his, all of the dogs.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Yeah, yeah. These are big, huge wolves. And he lived in Wyoming for a while. So when you walk these dogs, it looks like you're walking a horse, right? They're massive. So he had this dog named Lucky, and I was walking this dog, and I was helping him out. and I was walking him the dog. I like walking the dog.
Starting point is 01:08:30 He was a big dog, but he would, you'd have to like hold on with two. If he wants to take you, he's going to take you with him. But so what Lucky does is Lucky goes to pull up and he pulls up on this, this, the grass. And he's like, okay, he's going to take a dump. And I have like this big, huge, you know, like shopping bag to get this elephant poop. And so you know what dogs do, though, when they shit, they do that kick. Yeah, they swipe on the ground. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:56 This dog. kicked like he was the undertaker as hard as he could and it sprays this white car all over it like painted both the front and the back the shit I looked at it and went
Starting point is 01:09:17 there's nothing that I can do there was nothing I could do and when that person came out who said So that's that looks like a hit. That's deliberate. There was nothing I could do. I didn't have anything to wipe it with.
Starting point is 01:09:34 I didn't have any I didn't know where to bring a doorbell. I didn't have that is fucking. I said lucky you're setting me up for failure, buddy. Let's get the fuck out of here. So anyway, I don't know how to do it with any of them. Probably did it all purpose to clean that up, clean that up, bitch. More or less.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Miguel Zane. Do you all think the MCU should sideline Wolverine in the first? MCU film and let the likes of Cyclops Storm be loved again by the public. I think so thoughts. And he wants them the first villain. Well, I mean, I think the first villain should be Sabretooth. And I think it should be Wolverine because I think that you need to market and you need to go big.
Starting point is 01:10:10 You're not in the Guardians of the Galaxy phase of Marvel anymore. You've got to go big and you've got to capitalize on what you have and then build out the, then start building out the other characters and then introduce some of them in the Wolverine movie to warrant them getting their own standalone movies that people care about. Yeah, people hate this, but like, we live in our bubble and we know all these characters in the ins and outs, but we know, they know we're going to go. It's the other people that aren't in the bubble, and there's millions and millions of those people, and they're the people that these studios want to get into the theater. So you've got to go with some of these characters that are very well-known of the pop culture mainstream. So, yeah, you absolutely have to work on having Wolverine in there, and then picking a villain that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Look, X-Men is a lot of great villains, but they don't have a lot of great well-known villains, and that's the line you have to work. walk you got magnetos yeah the Sabre sentinels yeah right um okay Ralph what would you rather see no one script directed by Tarantino or Tarantino script directed by no one I think I'm gonna go Tarantino script directed by Nolan yeah I'm agree with you on that one yeah yeah I think think yeah that would be yeah that would be really fun to say yeah okay uh next one goopy G shout out to you guys for both going out on your own and making it happen on your channels I know it hasn't been easy, but we appreciate y'all. Well, thank you, man.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Yeah, it's definitely, it's definitely grind. Actually, you know, Roka, that gives me a chance here to say, what can people, where can people find you as far as what you're doing right now? Oh, yeah. Head on over to my channel, YouTube.com slash John Roker says. A lot of stuff going on there. We got the geek buddies, the hot mic, my reactions to trailers, reviews, and what have you, and fun episodes of the nation, where I'm getting something up my ass and I want to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:11:52 And I jump on there and do it. And we'd love to have you all come over. We're at 32,000. People keep telling me I have a small channel all the time when they're trying to put me down. But I'm just building and working and trying to get to 50, trying to get to 100 down the road. So I don't quit. You all know that. So if you want to come and hang out, we'd love to have you.
Starting point is 01:12:09 32,000 is a good number, man. I'm not judging some of the YouTube comments I get who people want to hate on what I'm doing. That's going to happen if you have people get it all the time. Mike Joyce, after seeing. Madame Webb, I have a pressing question. Do people not pull over for ambulances? People always pull over into suburbs all the time. People pull over all the time.
Starting point is 01:12:32 It's one of those things, again, dude. It's like, you know, there's kids flipping off the ambulance and everything. It's just not well put together. No. Great, great question. And surely was very silly. Jaden Coleman, I photographed the WWE event in Portland for the arena back in January. And it happened to be my first real exposure to pro wrestling.
Starting point is 01:12:52 That's cool. now I'm all in and I look forward to you guys talking WWE on Monday well first of all thank you for the kind word and that's great you know what's funny about that is that this is a good time to get into it right now because they're they're in a good spot right now like wrestling like anything else got its ups and downs and it's got its moments of and it's right now they're in a sweet spot right now
Starting point is 01:13:13 they've got a lot of talent they've got a lot of people right now they've got good storylines and this is a good time to really get into it I think yeah agree yeah this is the time this is the time you've got a lot of both on male and female you've got a lot of great wrestlers in the w w w now is the time to get in nxte is also at another golden age right now with their wrestlers that they've got coming and doing the things that they're doing there as well this is the time to get in every few years we know this christian every few years they hit that sweet spot and it's the time to jump in and know everything and get involved in the storylines and have some fun and even a e w's got
Starting point is 01:13:47 some really good stuff going on so it's a good time for wrestling for god's it yeah i don't know Chris Jones is talking about it as far as the, there's nothing I can do. I meant this is talking about the, uh, oh, he's always, yeah, audio, what I said the audio or something. It's not, it's stream yard. There's nothing I can do. On my, on my, on my OBS, I can change it. It's stream yard.
Starting point is 01:14:03 That's why I'm not using, I'm going to be, I'm going to, after a little while, I'm going to be eliminating stream yard from my, uh, from my repertoire. Oh, yeah. I'm not going to be using it. I'm going to be using straight OBS, but there's not, I can't, I can't do anything about the balances on it. It's like, it's like, John has his own balance. I do.
Starting point is 01:14:18 I do. I do. Um, so Ralph, where is director Mel Gibson? He hasn't been in trouble after the Hexar Ridge and do we just decide we don't like you again? He apologized. Well, I mean, I think there's more too with than just apologing, but like as far as, I don't know about him directing him. I think he could remember what I think he directed Passion of the Christ on his own money and his own budget and his own thing.
Starting point is 01:14:41 If he wants it, I don't, he just doesn't want to direct. Uh, that could be it too. I don't know. I think he's working. Last I heard he's working on the sequel. Yeah, Passion of the Christ, the resurrection. He's been working on that. there's rumors he's going to direct
Starting point is 01:14:53 Let The Weapon Five Oh right That's right yeah And there's another film called Flight Risk Which is probably Which is him with Walberg directing Walberg I hope he directs Leeu the Weapon Five I hope so too
Starting point is 01:15:05 Yeah I really do He's a great director He's a great great Agreed And Ralph follows it up I wish Cruz says yes to the Tarantino movie I think that'll happen Yeah
Starting point is 01:15:15 Yeah I think that'll happen What's what's the beef With What's the beef? What's the beef? with Cruz and Brad Pitt. Do you know, is it? Oh, I didn't know there was beef, but there.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Have you heard beef between them? I heard something. I don't know. I don't. Maybe there is. Maybe there is it. I'm not sure. James Diesel says,
Starting point is 01:15:34 Cabell should be Beast. No. Yeah. It's wrong. I don't know. I don't love that particular cast. I think, yeah, because. Cabell is an A-lister.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Okay. A-lister. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Randall Sanchez, big fan.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Thank you. Did you say both of you, went to Florida State for film school, not film school. We went to, we need to get some FSU hats. Christian, your movie commentaries are great. Well, thank you. Um, so we both went to Florida State. Yep. Theater school. Right. Yeah. You're both in the theater school together. Um, which John was one of the few, only few people I actually talked to in that school. Uh, it's, it's true. Yeah. Um, and the film school was very hard to get into. I tried to get into it. I didn't get in. But I spent a lot of time there because I would do a lot of the film school like plays and films and
Starting point is 01:16:29 Yeah, shorts and the shorts and things. I would do those things. So I spent a lot of time there. And then I just kind of, I ran a boxing league while I was there. And I actually put that. I did a lot of stuff where I went to the night and I made, I found my own pilot there TV and I put it through the the public, remember that public access? Yeah. Yeah. And I put it. it on there that they had through that the whole school. So that's what I did there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Same thing. I did, I didn't do a pilot, obviously, but I did shorts. I shot a bunch of student films for them for the film school. And look, the film school is a great film school. A lot of very talented people come out of
Starting point is 01:17:05 there. It's, to me, it's a better setup than USC because you don't have to pay for your film. And from what I understand with USC, you have to pay for your film. So Florida State takes care of the good, good people down there for sure. It was a blast. A blast. All right. Let's see, Jaden Coleman. with the rave reactions to Dune Part 2
Starting point is 01:17:22 and hopefully a successful box office run, you guys think Deney has the potential to enter Nolan territory. I mean, I think that when it comes to talent, he's already there. When it comes to being on status-wise, he needs a couple more status-wise because Nolan has those like, you know,
Starting point is 01:17:41 he's got inception, the dark nights, all these movies that just keep like, I think that it becomes more of like mainstream event in the same way that, you know, like his Nolan's movies are events now. It doesn't matter what the movie is. It's a Nolan movie. You want to go see it.
Starting point is 01:17:56 And I think that with film nuts, Dineen was already there. But I think with the casual fan, you'll start getting that more if this one hits. Because I think he's going down the right path already for knowing that Dune is his thing, and he's got to do part three. Yeah. Agreed. Agreed.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Yeah. That's a, I mean, to me, I see him talent-wise already in Nolan's territory. or maybe even, in my opinion, slightly above in terms of the artistic approach. But overall, he's not at the status level that Nolan is yet. But if he gets an Oscar for this one, I think that changes. Okay, look at this one. Holy moly. What's, uh, I have no idea with it.
Starting point is 01:18:32 Praity I hear. Sony and Marvel were budding heads over the next Superman movie. Now that Madame Webb has bombs, does it give Marvel more sway now? They'll be like, hey, Sony, you clearly don't know what you're doing. Let us handle this. I don't think it works that way, unfortunately. Thank you for the wonderful Supertogat. Very kind. Very kind. I think that it's more so inside of contracts.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Contract is. So what happened with the Sony aspect of how they got involved with Marvel in the first place was Sony was Sony was going to make, let's go all the way back. Toby McGuire, Sam Ramey, Spider-Man, 4. That was going to happen. And they were like three weeks away from shooting it. It all fell apart. And then they lost a movie. they were this close in losing the property because they had to release a movie by 2012, I think was what it was. So they didn't, they were about to lose it. In the contract it says if you don't have a movie made by that time, you lose the license. So they threw together and they made sure and they put together the Andrew Garfield stuff.
Starting point is 01:19:34 And so the Andrew Garfield stuff happened and they did it and the movies didn't do that well, but then they had and they got to figure out some other things. And then fast forward to what, 2000 after 2012. years after what was i think 2014 was the was actually the the jami box one right oh yeah it may the spider man too you mean too i think so yeah so then that movie didn't do very well and then they were like okay let's have a conversation can we bring in spider man to the mcc yeah and then they had that conversation they made it work when they put together this kind of 2016 was a major deal that they did but they're unable to have the license they're not going to get rid of that license they
Starting point is 01:20:10 They're not going to get rid of it. It's one of their hugest IPs. There's no way Sony gets rid of it. So you guys can't look at it like, what would you do if it was your friend? No, this is a business and they can't let it go. They have to make a movie every five years and nine months that is connected to Spider-Man or has some.
Starting point is 01:20:27 And those animated films count. So those count towards that whole situation, but they're never going to let Marvel do it. Because if they do not hit the gold and just let Marvel do all of them, they'll lose 90% of the characters in the Spider-Burst. that they have the rights to. So financially it doesn't make any sense to let go of Spider-Man. But I do think they do have to at some point work out some kind of deal with the MCU
Starting point is 01:20:51 where they look, guys, we need a Spider-Man. We either going to go with Andrew Garfield or bring back Toby, but we got to have a fucking Spider-Man. Yeah. They got a higher. In the same way that I've been talking about this, and I said this the other day, Kathleen Kennedy brought in or hired Faloney to basically be the Feigino. and they didn't have that for a bit say what you want whatever you had this he already had that jubble but it's official now right he's the guy who's running whatever you feel however you feel
Starting point is 01:21:17 about it he's he's there's an official guy who's now paying attention to everything that's connecting and where it's all going they didn't have that forever um Sony needs that Sony needs someone who really knows this and I I had suggested Lord and Miller they clearly out great clearly no spider oh my god be great they clearly no spider they're not directing those spiderverse movies right you know they're they're producing and they clearly know them. So let them run the live action version of it and let them figure out a way to put this whole thing together
Starting point is 01:21:45 because if Sony could actually get that whole thing together and put together a deal with they're making really good Spider-Man movies and a Spider-verse thing, they could be on bar with Marvel with the MCU and DC. Spider-Man is that big of a brand, but they just, it's a joke now, which leads to this next question. Brady A year, do you think that
Starting point is 01:22:05 Craven's going to be a good movie? No. And I don't because it's maybe not fair to anybody involved. Yeah. But I don't trust the Sony team involves right now. Yeah. Yeah. And that's why.
Starting point is 01:22:18 I mean, it's Jay Bayona or, sorry, J.C. Chandor, I always get those two mixed up, who I think is a good director, you know, a most violent year that Oscar Isaac won with Jessica Chastain, margin call, which is that kind of boiler room version of that, all is lost, which I thought was good. I didn't like his triple frontier, but I think overall, He's a damn good director. So I have hope, but like you said, the Sony system doesn't necessarily give me hope, but maybe they realize like these films are fucking terrible.
Starting point is 01:22:51 We have to do something better. Or we're losing money, you know? You hope, especially if Craven eats it, then they're going to, I mean, yes. And Venom 3 is another test because Venom 1 did very well. Two did okay. How's 3 going to do it? If Venom 3 does well, because it is going to, like the Sony kind of stink is going to start blending into the mainstream.
Starting point is 01:23:11 It really is. You've got multiple flops, right? Because you're going to have Morbius, Madam Webb, and then if Cravenflops, and then Venom three flops, then it's completely different time. You've got to change things up, but you're just tainting the brain.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Chair Bar 117, first time long time. X-Men 97, what are you hearing about this show? The only thing I heard about it recently is that, I guess they're going, I didn't realize it's TVMA. I think that's a good sign. Yeah, I'm really excited hearing great things about it, and that seeing all the fans react to it too is exciting as well. I'm definitely going to watch them leading up to that premiere for sure.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Our buddies are at Galaxy Geeks. Hey. Where is the movie YouTube Space Heading? It's so funny, John and I actually had a conversation about this this morning. We're always talking about this. Yeah. I have, and I actually was talking to another friend this morning too, I have never been happier in my career when it can.
Starting point is 01:24:04 And a lot of people have noticed that it's probably the most pleasant. I think that I've ever been by doing this. Do you know one of those reasons are I am no longer connected to this space at all? Yeah. I'm not connected to it at all. I don't. And as you said, you said where we're texting, it's like when I see people at people that I know and colleagues and stuff, when I see them at screening, I'm very cordial to them.
Starting point is 01:24:24 I talk to people and I love talking to people and I love, it seems to there's a lot of great people in this space that I would like to talk to. But I am not out there tweeting stuff. I am not out there connected to this stuff. I don't care about stature inside of like, are you one of the best critics? I don't give a shit. If you like my videos and you like to hear, you want to hear my opinions on certain things, right? That's why I hope you come to the channel.
Starting point is 01:24:43 If you want to get some last, that's why I'm not looking to be a big certified movie critic and do it. I just, that was always the approach. And people are like, people are so wrong if they, I don't actually see it anymore. But when people are like, oh, you always saying that because you want to go to the premieres. I don't like going to premieres. It takes me an hour to get there. It's awesome. I only go there because I get the thing out earlier and people can see the thing, though, too.
Starting point is 01:25:06 So that ain't that ain't a benefit for me. I like going. I like seeing people there, but I'll drive an hour away. But I don't really get that as much anymore because like I don't. And I also don't stay connected to it. I don't engage with negativity on on Twitter. I don't engage with.
Starting point is 01:25:20 And I'm not just talking about with people with fans or anybody too. I'm not in general. If I see people yelling at each other inside the space, I see people, colleagues going after each other. I stay the fuck out of it. I don't stay. It has been the best decision of my life. No, you're smart.
Starting point is 01:25:37 That's what we were texting about over the weekend because I hit some kind of wall recently myself, you know, because I'm engaging all the time and I'm going back and forth with people on my Twitter comments and on my YouTube comments. And the truth is, I realize that it's really fucking up my mental health. Over the last two years, I've been in this weird kind of mental health cycle and self-esteem issues are popping up again because of my reactions to things. And I saw, you know, this guy, Sergio, who's in here who loves to come at me, you know, the jealous of Latino. know, and you see these negative vibes and these negative things, and you're just going to go, why am I dialing into that? Why am I letting these people have control?
Starting point is 01:26:11 And if you are so connected to the space, you can't help but sit there and compare yourself to everything. So I'm watching what Christian is doing, and he's so fucking smart. And I've made a goal of mine. I said this to him over the weekend, that I'm slowly going to pull myself away from all of that. And I'm going to leave social media for the most part, just post my stuff, no longer comment on YouTube comment threads that are negative, no longer go back and forth of people on Twitter,
Starting point is 01:26:36 no longer do any of that because it does fuck with you after a while. It gets exhausting. And so the YouTube's base is heading to a place of conflict and battle and, you know, calling each other out, woke, anti-woke, all that shit. I just want to put out videos and feel good again about what I'm doing. And I haven't felt that way in two years. And so I'm making it a goal to make it this year. I'm telling you because that's the thing is that it's combative on, as I said,
Starting point is 01:26:59 on on there's there's combative on both sides in certain ways and we've talked about it at length on how it works on both ways I have built out this little cave and it has been yeah yeah so satisfying to me because like you know and and and I also love the fact like I'll get I put and something for you to think about too I put spam filters and stuff too when people and and it's my favorite thing in the world to do dude I don't know why I do this but I love this so much I love big full paragraphs of people that come in and like hateful comments. Yeah, yeah. And nobody sees it and I don't read it and then I just delete it.
Starting point is 01:27:35 Oh, yeah. It's like you just spent all this time doing that. No one is ever going to see it. When the Charmine obeyed Chenoy stuff blew up, if you were mad with me calling out these people because of the negative things they were saying, people were spent and I was just hiding user from channel and deleting comment and like, you're such a coward. No, bro.
Starting point is 01:27:52 I don't have to read your shit. You're nobody to me. And it doesn't matter. If you walk in with your. penis hanging out of my store. I'm going to throw you out. Yeah, exactly. Pete Parker 2288. Craven as an interesting director and a writer from the Equalizer movie, so that gives me
Starting point is 01:28:07 some hope. I think Dakota could be a good black cat. So that does go back, though, to the question and kind of, I guess, contradicting myself a little bit, too. When I talk about the director could very well be good, I just don't trust the Sony executives at that point. And I don't trust the studio at that point. So now look, you could see the movie and you can go, wait a minute, that could have been a good movie. And all those decisions, that looks like that was studio interference or we're like, I don't know how much interference it was. Why is that villain beating up all those cops? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:40 You know, like, so there's, but I think that it just, it's the Sony aspect of that that makes me nervous. Yeah. And if J.C. Chandra comes out with this movie and it's not good on the heels of Triple Frontier being not good for Netflix, then the same criticism of him should be. should be Sim Curtis should be lobbed at him that's being lobbed at S.J. Clarkson. I think that's fair. You know, the studio, but also the director is responsible here too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:01 Rock tells Roca. I know it was you, Johnny. You broke my heart. 100%. I'm wearing his shirt. Come on. You turn coat. Come on. Turn coat. All right. Let's see. I love the rock.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Brady Aeer. What do you guys think the production budget for new Superman should be? What do you think it's actually going to be? Will they be responsible? I don't think they're going to be responsible. I think they're going to spend about $200, $2.40 on it. I think it should be about $130, $140. I think $2.250.
Starting point is 01:29:31 You're absolutely right, but it should be one to $125, something like that. It won't be, though. It'll be too big. They're going to go over. They're going to be really big. They're going to be way too big. All right, we're still getting through all your comments, guys. So make sure, if you want, we'll be here until the end.
Starting point is 01:29:48 So keep them coming. We got a couple more for sure. All right, here we go. Hey Christian, thoughts on Sasha going AEW. Did she, did she sign? No, look, there's a lot of rumors that she's going to go AEW, but no one has officially, like officially, officially said that. So I'm waiting until it actually happens.
Starting point is 01:30:06 If she does, I think it's a massive mistake. Yeah. There, no one aside from maybe Tony Storm is on the talent level of Sasha Banks. No one. She's immediately in the stratosphere. And I think it's going down to a lower level to show what you can do. and it's not, it's like LeBron going and playing the G League. It doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 01:30:25 She's a superstar. She belongs in the WW. Yeah, maybe she won't get paid as much as Charlotte, but you're still going to make your money, you know, so it's me. Let her spend, let her make some money in AEW and she's back over to WWE. All right. All right. I'm going to test you right now.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Okay. I'm going to test you. And I want you to go into the mindset of what we just talked about five minutes ago, okay? Yep. All right. Here we go. Matt McClure.
Starting point is 01:30:49 Shout out to Christian, not Wokuro. There you go. Keep going, Christian, your following since Shmothers. Appreciate all the years, man. Well, thank you for being nice to me. I wish you would also be nice to my friend. That's all right. That's what I'll say.
Starting point is 01:31:03 He's a white guy what you expect. Yeah, go ahead. Oh, stop that. All right, Calam faded. Thank you for being my favorite guys on YouTube. Really appreciate your channels. It's great to see how far you've come. Much love from the UK, Wolverhampton.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Thank you, man. Go wolves. Great victory recently. Nice job by the wolves over there. Love that team. I hate beating them when I play. play them with Liverpool but shout out to wolves dog uh Felix what do you guys think the best film of the decade is so far that I mean of the decade which decades from 20 to 20 to 24
Starting point is 01:31:34 I mean I don't that's that's so hard to do right now I'd have to look I'd have to look at like the the list you know and say I mean I what I would favorite film and best film is different though too like like last year my favorite film was Godzilla minus one The best film was Oppenheim. Oppenheimer might be my favorite film of the last four years if we're dealing with the last four years. Doones in there for me too? I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:32:01 Dunes in conversation, but the top of the time. That's what I mean. So I got to check that out. Prady a year. Thank you, Prady. Really getting involved today. Thank you. Will you guys be doing reaction and review videos for the Netflix avatar,
Starting point is 01:32:14 the last Airbender series? Did you both like the trailer? Thanks, guys. I did like the trailer. So here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to do the same thing I did for, echo, I think. I'm going to do episode one and maybe episode
Starting point is 01:32:25 two, and if nobody watches them, same way that nobody watched my echo ones, I'm not going to do any more past that. And then probably watch the whole, if I like it, I'll watch the whole thing. If nobody's watching them and I like the whole thing, then I'll just watch the series and review it. That's probably one of it.
Starting point is 01:32:41 Yeah, I think that's about right. Yeah, like, I was going to go live last night with a night country review from, but like it's so low in terms of the ratings, it doesn't make sense. So I'll just tweet my response, but We'll see what the finale. I didn't see it. Oh, I love the finale.
Starting point is 01:32:54 I thought it was great. I enjoyed the series a lot. I didn't see the pen ultimate one yet. So it's five and six, so I'm close. See, that tells me where the status of it is. If you haven't even seen the final two episodes, it tells me where overall people feel about it. Yeah, I haven't.
Starting point is 01:33:08 Well, I like it's a whole TV watch it. It's not appointment TV. It's like, it's good. And my wife watching it with me and then she bailed because she got, not because she didn't like it as much as she that it was the end of four was too creepy first. She's like, I'm not invested enough to be creeped out is what her thing was. Oh, that's fair. So then she bailed on it. And I watched the rest of it the other
Starting point is 01:33:28 night and thought it was good. But there's nothing really I'm watching that I'm like, is the point been watching for me right now. I like Mr. and Mrs. Smith, think it's good. Yeah. I like, I like, I like this one. There's nothing yet that I'm like, come on. So I'm hoping like, you know, something comes pretty soon. Mine just popped up. Love is blind. Let's go. New season. Let's go. What the hell there is. All right. Artem Shakra I hope I said that right. Probably didn't. Everyone considers and or to be a
Starting point is 01:33:50 masterpiece but I was very bored watching it not because of the part agreed because I'm very tired of stories that happened during one through nine I think that's fair when someone says you know if you're if you're sick at that time period I get it um I always say that when it comes to boring though I for for and or there are things that are born like look Madame Webb to me was boring was dull I can't find and I don't find and or boring I can take what someone says slow although you're reasoning for it I understand is different, right? You say because it's, it's during that time period and you're sick of that time period. So automatically your brain goes, come on again with this time period.
Starting point is 01:34:30 I understand that. I think that's fair. But and you said not plot, not characters. It's, for me, it's when people say plot and characters are for that show is boring. You just not really, you just, it's, it's kind of like you're just, you're not paying attention to it all the way through because that show is not boring. It is slower, but not boring. It's intense throughout. I have to look at your film collection, if you have an issue with this show. He didn't. though he didn't hit a different he did right i agree and i understand because a lot of people like tattooing again fuck this you know so i understand right and i his that that's me the second he said that i'm like okay that's i can i can understand that armada any chance we get adam raised dr phil in your show i
Starting point is 01:35:08 you know i got a i've adam and i have gone back and forth so many different times about him coming on i don't know if if i haven't come on i don't think he's going to do the full get-up just to come on the show so i so i doubt it um but i was like to have him on again i haven't had him on in quite a while have you had uh robert thompson on in a bit not in a little bit i i almost i the other day i almost i i did call him because we were we were doing talking about how spielberg was a big fan of godzilla minus one i tried to get him to to do his spielberg and he just wasn't available so i go into wormholes with his jeff and craig ferguson stuff oh my god like you can lose hours watching that shit's the best he's p parker 2288 i love the story of the guy that
Starting point is 01:35:50 kept nudging you during the costner movie three days to kill Oh my God, I totally forgot. I remember that one. That story I do remember. Black Widow guys. Dude, I forgot. PTSD, man. Wow.
Starting point is 01:36:04 I forgot about that. Yeah, I remember exactly where I was now. I wouldn't, I wouldn't even have thought about that story or probably never even thought about it ever again. Had you not brought that up. But I remember it just like that. You're buried. You're buried. Oh, the other day.
Starting point is 01:36:18 And I posted, did you see my Instagram picture, John that I posted with me for like the 90s with the, with this. Yes. What a hair. That haircut. What a head of hair. And if I can find it before, I'll post it. But my buddy sent me that. And I was like, one of my close friends I've known since kindergarten. Wow. And I was like, when did you come visit me in Florida?
Starting point is 01:36:37 I don't remember that at all. I couldn't remember it. And then when he said it, I started thinking about it. I do remember it a little bit, a little bit. But it's amazing. I think just can block things out. You get an old. That's the game. That's also the truth. So I don't remember if I bet $750 million or not.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Well, we're going to, that. thank god was on video uh bam 86 the solo film to group film formulae doesn't make sense for x-men they're not avengers i i disagree with you and yeah you might be the same person that said this before i totally disagree with you the avengers were a group also they were a group and then they came together it's a group avengers heroes or solos who came it doesn't matter what also you you got the thing about business and studio and can you build out these characters because people will care more about rogue than they will care about um what's the eternals yeah people care more and mean not because not group or solo just is like an unknown property versus rogue or cyclops or uh
Starting point is 01:37:34 colossus you have them have their own movie and you can make them smaller and not spend all those money on it and then when you do an x-mo movie it's special so i disagree with your take i appreciate your take but i disagree with it a hundred percent yeah um but i but i but i but i understand where you coming from There's a lot of other, a lot of other comments. Hold on it. We're starting to go down here. Sorry, I think, unless I got to everybody's. No, no.
Starting point is 01:37:57 No. No. Okay. Prady, I hear again. Hey. Prydie. 1923 production delays are so disappointing to hear. That is even equally more disappointing because I hadn't heard that yet. And my wife just said to me the day, when's 1923 coming back?
Starting point is 01:38:12 I love that show. Are you excited for season two? I am. Roku, you should get into the Yellowstone franchise. If you're going to get into it, dude, because, you know, it's funny. I've watched all of 1883. I've watched all of 1920. Yeah, 1883, 1923.
Starting point is 01:38:27 You're right. So I've watched, I've watched both of those. I think I've watched two episodes of Yellowstone. And I really think that if you are going to start, you should start. I think you would love 1883. I think you would love it. I dipped out after the second season of Yellowstone because it got too melodramatic and so. Remember you telling me that?
Starting point is 01:38:46 I remember. It just became ridiculous seeing West Bentley be everyone's bitch, every fucking episode and see the redhead girl Kelly Riley. She wins everything. She says everything so smartly. And it's like, where's the vulnerability, man? And the balance. And so to me, I guarantee you will love 1880.
Starting point is 01:39:02 Okay. I got to watch this. Dude, it's so up your alley and you'll fall in love with Elizabeth May. Okay. I was hoping she was going to be Supergirl. But yeah, I'm telling you, she is, she is fantastic. Elusive Rock. Here's $5 to the Barkley Water guy.
Starting point is 01:39:22 That poor bastard. I wonder whatever happened now. I wonder whatever happened. He's listening right now. That would be even better. Simon section. Hey, Roker. I am also pumped for Ridley Scott's Bejie's movie.
Starting point is 01:39:33 Come on. Celebrity cameos in a film like Mike Myers and Bohemian Rhapsody, such as Jimmy Fallon and Justin Timberlake, Nice on Broadway. What do you think? I don't think so. No, I think Ridley wants to do a serious approach to this story because there's a lot of drama
Starting point is 01:39:45 between the BGs themselves and their brother and with Andy Gibb and then all that happened with them trying to succeed over the disco stuff and you know so there's a lot to explore the last thing you want is these little cameos that are going to make you wink to the camera. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:59 So yeah. But he means a safer film. I don't think really is going to direct a safer film. So that's what I'd say. All right. Jay West, if Sony decides to sell Spider-Man and it's open to all buyers,
Starting point is 01:40:08 does Disney immediately offer them two to three billion or let another company make the bid? Well, I still think you, I still think Disney's going to sell to Apple. Yes, I agree. I think that's going to happen first. And what kind of shakeup happens after, I don't think Disney's going to be buying anything until Apple takes them over,
Starting point is 01:40:23 whenever that happens. But, yeah, I mean, I think somebody would take a, I mean, I think Marvel would want them back, would want Spider-Man back immediately, if that was the case if they're going to sell it. I just don't think, I just don't think they're going to do it. I think they're going to be too, now they probably should do it, but I don't think they would do it because I think that they would make more money selling it than with the currency and they have trying to make money off of it.
Starting point is 01:40:44 I agree. Sony will never sell it. But like the Apple thing is really interesting, Christian, because Jeff doesn't think it's going to happen, but you and I are on the same page, we think it's going to happen, Disney being sold Apple. Disney buying a games company recently, I think it's a very interesting thing to look at because Apple doesn't have that.
Starting point is 01:40:59 It's the one area of the market they haven't gone after, Sony and Xbox and all their section. If they go after the games market through Disney, I think is a real interesting move for them, especially with that Apple Vision Pro that's out now. Like, if you can play video games on that, say fucking good night. I want to get that. I really want to get that.
Starting point is 01:41:15 I can't, I can't legitimize the cost of $30, five hundred dollars but i want it i know i know there's people there's people driving with these things on this oh fuck i saw that yeah people walking across the street with the what's what's wrong with people it's smashed by a bus doesn't matter your virtual world you're gonna die yeah um all right here's the next one chilling in the basement hey it's awesome to i like that username tkos playing with the rock work i haven't seen a thing about vincent days amy pascal is a joke she's killing spider man like uh like kathen khani's her hero. All right. So when you have, um, you have the, the first part of that with Vince McMahon. Yeah. I agree. I think that they, the, that story got pushed to the side when all of this,
Starting point is 01:42:02 when the Cody stuff and all that when, when they went back to business. Yeah. But now it will resurface. Sure. Because there'll be more, because once the actual trial happens and once, you know, things, it'll resurface. It'll come back up. But their goal of pushing everything. towards promoting WrestleMania was successful. Yes, 100%. I mean, overall, yes. I mean, I think they fumbled the rock coming back, but other than that, it is really worked.
Starting point is 01:42:29 There is a law firm that announced today that they are looking for people who have issues with the WWE, Vince McBad, a very big law firm, I think, in Chicago. So there might be more of this to come. But I think wrestling fans want to just kind of look at Lesnar and brush them aside, look at Vince and brush them aside,
Starting point is 01:42:46 and focus on the current wrestlers because the current wrestlers weren't involved in the shit that Vince was doing back in the current team of endeavor. Exactly. The current team of endeavor is in it. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:57 All right. Next one. Luke walks the sky 54. So I'm a damn web on Saturday. Yeah, that's a movie. Christian, I thought of you when that subway scene happened. I couldn't get that image out of my head. It's the worst.
Starting point is 01:43:14 It's the worst. And it's one of those things that people probably wouldn't even notice. There's little things I know it's in the same way, if you go back and you watch the Quiet Place trailer one, or Quiet Place Day One trailer. Yeah. When she's first walking, there's a guy as an extra in the background who does this incredible spin.
Starting point is 01:43:34 He does this spin. He goes, woo. He just kind of spins around. And that's the kind of shit I notice. I agree. It drives literally crazy how much I'll pause a show and show her how an extra is acting the floor. Oh, I love it. And how I would have yelled at the extra pose.
Starting point is 01:43:49 director. Love it. All right. Here's the next one. Matt. All right, Matt comes back. And he said, Roka, we disagree in a lot, but respect for the hustle, man. See, look at that.
Starting point is 01:43:58 Thank you. Respect back to you, man. Thank you for being in that way. And that is why, but that's my point. That's my point. Had you gone off on the guy and started screaming and yelling at him, we wouldn't, you wouldn't have come in and said that. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:44:11 That's why I didn't do it. I know. I love that. I love that. All right. I'm starting to shape. Holman. Will you guys do a live review on Dune
Starting point is 01:44:19 too so that's a great question i didn't talk to roka about this but we're going to land to a place where on monday oh a week from well it wouldn't be a week from today it would be two weeks from today um we're going to be the you know it'll be the weekend after the movie comes out i think that the whole majority of the whole episode live should be a spoiler review let's do it yeah so i think i think that the answer that question is yes i think most likely john and i will be doing a full-on spoiler discussion for dune on on that on that uh that monday after it comes out i'd love to what okay great great i would love to um thank you guys this is from luke walks to sky thank you guys for being inspirational thank you thank you watching you guys since amc you guys are a reason why i
Starting point is 01:44:58 do my mini reviews on instagram i will work up to youtube forest hills queens there it goes all day well thanks me i always said i i actually i met a dude at the critic's choice awards i really choked me up a little bit to be honest with you like the guy was from canada and really nice guy and comes up and he's just like look i've been just kind of like you know that had been through some tough times and then we started watching us on on collider and and emc and all the schmose and all this stuff too and like and because of it became like a a film a film guy a film critic and works and and he and he got himself to the be in the bfca and he's yeah came came to the critic choice awards and
Starting point is 01:45:40 like it was just it's it's it's amazing how like you do do these things and like people are really in the sake like again kind words like what luke says here too so just what i say the same thing man just keep keep pushing and keep doing your thing my favorite dms are the people who say hey man your your your work or your your videos you know i turned to them when i was really down i mean like we all get them and they mean the world to us yeah we've all been through tough times yeah inspired by other people so to be someone who inspires other people it's really you know what's funny about that dude like i was watching um do you you you Do you follow Steve Gutenberg on Instagram?
Starting point is 01:46:14 No, really? He has a fantastic follow. Okay. He, his, his follow him. He's where it's totally, his entire feed is just positivity and appreciation of people in your life. And he did, and he posted one.
Starting point is 01:46:30 I don't know if it was from yesterday, just one that popped up to my feet, but he was walking around on the street and some guy stopped him and goes, hey, I love your, I love your videos. I love what you do on Instagram. And he goes,
Starting point is 01:46:40 I didn't even know that guy. The guy told me and it made me appreciate him, So tell people, tell people what you're doing, you know, you like their work and the stuff you're doing in general and or just in general to tell people that, you know, what they're doing is good. And it made me feel good. And Steve Gutenberg is doing great work on Instagram. He is the total opposite of what the internet has is what you think of when you think of the internet.
Starting point is 01:47:02 He is, he is what you hope the internet is. That's, that's, that's, that's, that is my plug for Steve Gutenberg is that's great. His Instagram feed is what the internet should be. We're starting to see more people embrace positivity and focus on positivity, right? And it's like we said, the Joker appears. If the Batman appears, the Joker must be created to counter Batman. If this much negativity appears, positivity must be created to counter the negativity. It's the natural order of things, balance.
Starting point is 01:47:31 So I'm seeing this more and more, I'm going to myself. Yeah, it's great. Felix, Roker, will Liverpool win the Premier League? I don't know. I don't know. We're a number one right now. you see that, you know, right there on the edge of the screen there. My sign for a little.
Starting point is 01:47:44 We're number one right now, but there's a lot of big games to come. Don't count anything for granted. Arsenal's playing great. Man City tied Chelsea, but, you know, there's a lot of, we got to play Man City. And so we still play Manchester again. So there's still time to be derailed. But right now I love how we're playing. We have some injuries with Joda and Jones over the weekend, but just give it time.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Let me tell you what I just heard. That's what I know. Solo. I do none of that. Speaking of Star Wars. Johnny Venerable. Odds that Boba Fed is in the Mando movie. Pretty high.
Starting point is 01:48:25 Unfortunately, no Carl Weathers. I know. Who's this cast made of? Need Boba redemption of Book of Boba Fett, also Cadbean. I think that they're going to, I think that unfortunately, and I say that, look, I love Tim
Starting point is 01:48:38 both tomorrow. I love uh, uh, Mingna, who is going to be on Katie's show soon. And I, I love the cast.
Starting point is 01:48:50 Did not like that show. That show to me was dull, right? And it was unfortunate. I think Fuloni really loves it. Um, I do think that they both should be in the movie. But I think the reason I bring all that up, I think that they're going to announce a Boba Fett season.
Starting point is 01:49:04 I know, I have no inside track on that. I have no, I know nothing about that. I'm just saying I feel like, because I think that, Follonle really digs it. I think they're going to wind up giving it a thumbs up.
Starting point is 01:49:14 I think that's a mistake. Unless they're going to really, I know it's Favreau show, but I think they're going to, unless they switch it up completely and just do what they originally said they were going to do and make it like a full-on gangster type of show. But who do you think shows up in the Mandalorian movie? I think the regular cast of characters that you've seen throughout the seasons for sure.
Starting point is 01:49:36 Bill Burrow be in it. I know you don't like that, but I love that. I'm sure Bill Burrow be in it. Yeah. I don't think Boba, though. You don't think Boba will be in the movie? Yeah, I don't think so. Oh, man, that's going to come with another bet coming up.
Starting point is 01:49:49 I tell you that, Bob was definitely going to be in that movie. They want to keep it small. I think they want to keep it small. In a standalone adventure without. You got to have Boba Fed in the first kind of in that time period. I think Fenwick Shan more than Boba. I would see that more than Boba. If you can't, you're crazy.
Starting point is 01:50:05 I know. You're crazy. I know. All right. Here's the next one. These numbers keep increasing. Let's go. Yeah, Killian for Doom.
Starting point is 01:50:13 He's 47. Pedro's 48. Perfect. I get it. Killian is a star like Pedro. He's just as talented. 100% he's, he's, and I said it when I said it before. Killian Murphy is awesome.
Starting point is 01:50:26 I love it. I just don't think he's right. I'm not the way. Age wise, I just don't think he's right for the role. I don't think he's imposing. I don't think he's, I just don't think he's right. You don't want another skinny intellectual. Yeah, he's right after he just played.
Starting point is 01:50:40 Oppenheimer in Pee Blamers where he plays a stoic and ambitious Romani gipsy gangster. I see Victor on doom. That's fair. I also, I'm not as familiar with, with P.E. blinders. I hear great things about it. It's a great show. I love people. I know.
Starting point is 01:50:52 So I don't know. So I don't know. Yeah, I'm not sure. Okay. Any ideas? Well, Jim 1. Any ideas what's going on Screen Janky's fandom? No new commentaries videos from Spencer and Krufer months.
Starting point is 01:51:04 Shane, I don't know. And like I said, this is one of the things about me just not being connected to this issue. I don't I don't really talk to a lot of people anymore. And I mean, I talk to, you know, people, I talk to people here and there. And I talk, I mean, talk to Ellis all the time. Ellis and I text, you probably, like, almost once a day. But I talked to Ellis all the time.
Starting point is 01:51:26 In between his box jumps. Yeah. Yeah, I spoke to Ken last week. Yes. Yeah, me too. I said, see, John, I mean, people in my crew I see all the time. But like, but I don't really, not as, not as in touch with everybody. So I really don't have an answer on that.
Starting point is 01:51:39 John, you don't know, do you? No, I have no clue. Like you, I don't really pay much attention to all that stuff that's going on because, you know, just kind of working on my own stuff. So, yeah. Yeah. Okay, so let's see. Next one here.
Starting point is 01:51:52 This is the next one. Bob Skywalker, guys, always remember when you take them the responsibility, I couldn't believe that they wrote that. I couldn't believe that they did. It's like, just say it either say the actual line itself or don't say it at all. Oh, God, that line. Silly. Oh, ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:52:08 out of control. Yeah, out of control. Brady again, Prady, crushing today. Roker, you will definitely, definitely love 18-20. Right up your alley and you'll love 1923 too. I agree. I agree. I think that the guy that plays Harrison Ford's nephew,
Starting point is 01:52:26 one of the guys that plays his nephew, he's like the main, he's like the Hunter in 1923. I think he's a major star. I really do. I think he's a major star. The question is, he can break out past this role, hopefully he does, and hopefully the season
Starting point is 01:52:42 two takes off. I think he's a major star. Yeah. All right, let's see. Roca, your honest prediction of the Carabaeo Cup this Sunday? Yeah, it's a... Liverpool versus Chelsea. Okay.
Starting point is 01:52:56 I think he goes to penalty kicks again, and I can't tell you who's going to win. That's what I think. Chelsea's been playing well lately, the Hellman City, and we've just lost Jodah, and we got a couple other injuries, so I don't think we're going to be at our best. If we'll be lucky to go to penalties, that's what I'll say. Homebacker team.
Starting point is 01:53:17 Matt McClure, you guys actually have faith in a James Gunn-led DCU. I'm praying it's great. We need the DCU to succeed and to be able to grow alongside these heroes. I have faith in James Gunn's casting. I think he's excellent casting. I think it's one of his strengths. I will come back to me after I see Superman. Yeah. Because that is, if that movie fails, James Guns, DCU is over. Yes, 100%. It's over.
Starting point is 01:53:46 You can't go forward with anything else. It's got to work. And I do think it will work. I do. So the answer is, do I have faith? Yeah, I do. Do I think that, you know, once I see that movie and are I coming out of the movie going, that's exactly the type of Superman movie we've been looking for for years.
Starting point is 01:54:03 And man, did they set everything up well? Then I'm going to even have more faith. How do you feel about it? Just like what happened with Snyder, right? Man of Steel wasn't 100% accepted by the Superman fans and that ended up bleeding over and everything else and eventually led to the end of the Snyderverse. So same thing will happen here. Superman Legacy is not 100% embraced by the fans.
Starting point is 01:54:21 James Guns, the universe is doomed. It really is. Matt follows up again. Said Collider's demise is the first time an empire following the remnants bird brighter because of it. Well, done, guys. I've missed movie talk. Well, thanks, man. I mean, look, it was so funny that I was talking somebody about this before we went on air today, too.
Starting point is 01:54:37 I as I look back I hated that time period I hated I hated it like people like when they bring up like Jedi Council Jedi Council Clyder Live I hate I hate those shows hey it was and I wonder also it was because it was you know just a very unhappy time in my life in general a lot of things but I don't I and if I and people will would someone asked me this would you do it all over again yes I would I would I would probably have just stayed with Schmo's if I know what I do now now and know how YouTube works I'd probably just stay with Chmote. I would probably have done you know I amc movie talk I had fun I did have fun in AMC movie talk yeah and then when we move over to collider it just and then nothing it's the people there I like yourself included like I I didn't I didn't like the corporateness of it all and I my wife said this me the day she like I can't remember what it was I was talking about something she was like you just
Starting point is 01:55:28 don't do well working for people and I said I don't I just don't yeah yeah I'm in the same you know and Christian was very kind to bring me on there and lobby for me to get a full-time job there. And I learned so much from the people there. But it had to implode because it was just too toxic. It was being run too in a bad way. And the new version of Collider is much more diverse. You've got much more interesting opinions about stuff.
Starting point is 01:55:54 And I love the new version of Collider. And the people, a lot of the writers who work there, I read their stuff. And very, like Maggie love it, I'm very impressed by the stuff they do. So this version is a lot better than the version that was before. I think overall because there was just like a lot of weird stuff that was going on. I think it was more so.
Starting point is 01:56:13 For me, it's more so about just the entire space in general. But yeah, right. But I agree with you. I can't work for people either. I am really in that boat now, that very, very clear for myself. Yeah. And it's also.
Starting point is 01:56:23 And I wouldn't change the thing either. But it's also why, like, there are people who just like career-wise want to do the movie reporting, movie news, and God bless them. I just not anything I ever wanted to start doing. Like even when Mark and I were doing reviews, it was always like, hey, let's take the everyman point of view and just the same way that we walk out of a movie theater. Let's just talk about it.
Starting point is 01:56:42 And this is essentially how I approach my show on my UAP, my UFO show on Tuesday is the same thing I said to Riley. Like someone said to me the day, well, you don't know the names? I'm like, no, I don't know the names of certain people. I'm learning them in the same way that I, when I go to see a movie, I remember being on the air with Kevin Pollock one time. And there's a movie that popped up. I was like, oh, and that person's name was this. He's like, you review movies for a living? You don't know this?
Starting point is 01:57:03 I'm like, no, because I'm not a fucking movie critic. I've never called myself a movie critic. I'm someone who watch. You like movies. You listen to my opinion because we have similar opinions. I guess you want to put me in that critic space. Sure. Fine.
Starting point is 01:57:17 But like in the same way that like I and then there was a thing and it wasn't just Clyder was everything in that everyone took themselves so seriously like it was like major news networks and like it was like whether they were on CNN or Fox or whatever. And I'm like, guys, we're talking about movies. And it's like, well, we got to cover this. We got to cover this. We've got to cover this. I'm like, and I just was not, I just wasn't happy during that time period.
Starting point is 01:57:42 And I've talked about it many times. And it's very similar to where we've, we've all been there. But like I went through a, I went through a phase. So whereas, you know, I, I told, I've talked about this many. But I, we lost SNAP. I lost my brother. And I carried that shit dude for, like, and didn't talk to anybody about it for years. And then I fucking blew up on the air.
Starting point is 01:58:01 And there's still people come in and comment on it to this day. because the internet internet remembers right Disney thing oh yeah oh yeah that fucking the whole galaxy's interesting like when that thing went down like it's like and and look and I and I for and it was a bad bad day at work yeah we all have I had it on air I had it on air and it happens
Starting point is 01:58:21 right it happens so but you know it's one of those things that it's just like it's just not a happy time in my life I I I when people bring it up I appreciate to this day like I love Jedi Council I'm like that you did I felt so bad because a lot of times we have to do structure it out and be like,
Starting point is 01:58:39 here's the story. What if I want to spend, you know, 30 minutes on this topic? I'll spend, today. You know, we'll spend, like, on one topic, we'll spend like 40 minutes on it. And I'm like, oh, I didn't get to the other one. But it was like, well, we, and the poor graphics guy would pull up all these different things.
Starting point is 01:58:56 I remember one time I went off and I didn't do it. I just spent, I just spent, it was really good episode, but we spent like 40 minutes on one topic. And they were like, Can you get to all the topics, please? Because we had to have so-and-so pull all these things, and it's a lot of work, which I understood. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:59:11 I'm like, I don't want to do this anymore. I didn't like doing it. I just didn't like doing it. I don't know. I think both of us, we cannot work for another in that way. Like, we have to build our own thing. You're right. Lauren L, the assumption that Sony can sell Spider-Man is odd to me.
Starting point is 01:59:29 They don't own Spider-Man, hence if they don't make a movie in an amount of years, it reverts tomorrow well that's the whole thing is that they're going to have to they're going to have to keep making movies and i wonder if inside that contract because madame webb is connected to spider-man that it counts and what it means also to the um you know because ben parker is in it does it count you know what i mean like so that's that's the kind of stuff i wonder why that's why they put these things out because they keep the property and why they do the animated one too to get connected what do you think what that it's yeah i think it's madness that they would ever sell i don't think they'll ever sell and yeah why would they ever sell yeah sterling jones possible uh unpopular opinion
Starting point is 02:00:12 i would lose some respect for boyega if he came back to star wars to the ones who hardly screwed them over well i mean look actually another conversation that john and i just had recently um the thing is what i've always also noticed is that people have the very similar opinion you did that when it comes to well someone hurt me Someone did this. I'm never going to work with them again. That sometimes could be a detriment to yourself if the business opportunity is right. Right. Now, it depends on what that is, right?
Starting point is 02:00:42 Now, if somebody comes to you and says, look, what we did was wrong, we did this, we did that. We want to make it up for you. And you're like, and then you can benefit yourself and you can benefit your career from it. I wouldn't lose respect for John Baega at all if he did that. Absolutely. You want to work with his friend, Daisy Ridley, more power to him. Right. Yeah, there's certain times that, like, I was, we were talking about, like, wrestling.
Starting point is 02:01:02 Do you many times that wrestlers have talked crap about the company and this? And then they showed back up. I mean, Brett Hart. I mean, Brett Hart came back to the WW. Couldn't believe them. The warrior. Ultimate worry. All these people came back because business, the right business trumps, you know, personal feelings.
Starting point is 02:01:19 And it should. Yeah. Depending on what the situation is that happens and who it is that does it. Yeah. And I think it's very clear that it's a different, even though Kathleen Kennedy still, obviously, but I think it's a different regime. They understand what happened the last time around with that sequel trilogy, and I think Boyega has a different approach, and he's gotten older too.
Starting point is 02:01:37 So there are going to be demands that Boyega has that he's going to be very firm on like Daisy is because they're older actors. So they're going to come back to a situation that works for them as opposed to being a slave to the studio in a way to what they want. So I think that's important. Again, guys, you guys are firing a lot of questions. Thank you so much. Diamond Ratler.
Starting point is 02:01:57 thank you for everything you do, just wanted to show some class, just a little. I lost my pop, but thank you. Oh, man. Thank you, Roka and Raleigh for continuing. Well, I'm sorry for your loss. I'm very sorry for your loss. And thank you very much for the kind words. And I'm glad you showed a little, you should more than a little class.
Starting point is 02:02:14 You showed a lot of it. And take it day by day, brother. Yeah, for real. For real. But funnel. We're missing you. Thanks for the great lives, James Christian and John. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:02:24 Appreciate you. Always nice to see you, but funnel. always make the stream i know we're doing something right when but funnels signed b funnel this crazy coming in hot wow taylor sheridan wanted to shoot the whole 1923 story together however due to the high cost of production it was divided into two seasons i get it 1923 cost an insane 500 a million a minute 35 million per episode what's expensive production that's crazy It's praise. Wow. That is. Wow. That's too much. That's a lot of money. But I really, John, I really want to get your thoughts on it.
Starting point is 02:03:01 Okay. I really want to get your thoughts on both those shows. Bruce Crawford, you all think Maverick is the best, the top gun Maverick is the best of the decade. It's one of the best studio movies in the, for sure. It's one of my favorite movies for sure at a while. And I also want you back to pray to you. That was a very nice super chat. Thank you for that. And yeah, there are, there are, there are, are a lot of, um, there are a lot of different, um, series that's been way too much money. But I think when you get to Sharon in though,
Starting point is 02:03:30 it's kind of like, kind of like earned it, didn't he? Yeah, I think so. And plus, you know, he,
Starting point is 02:03:35 he's minting money for that, uh, for Paramount, uh, with all this stuff. So it's not a problem for him to ask for that kind of a budget. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:03:43 All right. Let's see. Um, Jeremy, love the show. Have you ever thought about having Vogel or Shannon on the show? I love the geek buddies, especially they're in,
Starting point is 02:03:51 sign of writing much of yeah i mean look shannon shannon and i are definitely i mean is all three guys i just get along very well Shannon out of the three i knew the less yeah right um like my mike at florida state like he was as i said john and mike were like john was the guy that i was like this guy hasn't seen like he belongs in the theater school as where mike definitely did but mike wasn't one of these stuck up theater turds that a lot of these florida state theater turds were There were a lot of, there were a lot of Florida State Theater turrets. And Mike was not one of them. Mike was super nice, super awesome.
Starting point is 02:04:26 And I worked on Shoes and Beef with Mike. Yes. I love Mike. I'd love to have both of the guys on. It would be great. Yeah, great. Let's see, keep going, keep going, keep going. I think that's all.
Starting point is 02:04:37 Yeah. Is that it? I think that's it. From what I? That's it. Okay. Wow, we did it, John. That was amazing.
Starting point is 02:04:44 You guys are refreshed it today. Thank you. We're a supersized episode here today on, on the baked things. So John, did it. Thank you, brother. Where can they find you? Always at the Roka says on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok, the Outlaw Nation on Twitch and my YouTube channel, YouTube.com
Starting point is 02:05:00 slash John Roker says. We're doing all stuff there, like the Hot Mike, the Geek Buddies, the Ceno, oh, not the Cinephiles, but the Hot Mikekebodies. My reactions, Jedi Way with Laura and Kevin Smets come and hang out there. And my podcast, the Cinephiles, the Geek Buddies, and the Hot mic that are all separate podcast feeds for y'all to enjoy. All right, guys. So once again, And if you're able to, you have the means to, please consider one of our sponsors here today.
Starting point is 02:05:23 That really keeps the show going a lot. Tomorrow, if you're a fan of UAP Tuesdays, oh, man, we got a great show. We got the first ever UFO lobbyist, Steve Bassett, is on the show. And he is going to be on the show with me and Riley, and it's in studio. It's amazing. I'm so excited for you guys to hear it. So please make sure you check that out. For John Roker, myself, everybody else, thank you to everybody who commented here today and put your likes and comments and all that stuff in.
Starting point is 02:05:58 Appreciate it very much. And we'll see you on the flip side. I'll see you tomorrow. Peace out. Thanks.

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