The Kristian Harloff Show - HERE IS WHY Jon Favreau should direct The Mandalorian movie.

Episode Date: December 13, 2023

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Ahoi. Oh, indeed. And Mark, baby carrots. Ellis. Hi, Captain. We had a funny conversation right before the show started. Humorous. It was funny.

And then the dude came in. And then the dude came in. And ruined our take. All of that. I was very excited because this morning, well, yesterday I got a lot done. We're working on Katie's, Katie Sackoff show.

Coming back, it looks like beginning the first week in January. That's how you start. Yeah, and we got a lot of great gas. I was editing the stuff. I got so much done yesterday. I was really excited about that. And then this morning,

and put all the stories together, I get everything ready. And I was like, oh, the other thing I need to do is I got to get that comedy show up on Patreon. I've been talking about that for a bit. So right before we're about to start. I go, I'm talking to, you know, I said, hold on, just two seconds before I put this thing with the Patreon.

And Mark did a very hilarious set, and he needed a special appearance. You were good. As always. And you did an appearance at Flappers for us, which I was grateful for. For the set. Yeah. And then do you want to say what happened before the show? Well, Christian's looking at it.

And like a proud father, Steph and I are like, is he having another kid? He's so excited. What's happening? And it just finished uploading. And so I looked at it. And I saw. I saw like a little thumbnail image and it wasn't you. And I'm like, oh, so you put the whole show up.

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Okay. So I want to go to this first story here because, This is, it's not even so much. I'm going to give the breakdown on it. The Mandalorian Season 4. It was before the strike. It was written. They said season 4 is already done.

They hadn't started filming anything, obviously. And then after the strike, everything kind of got pushed back in general. Everything was kind of in disarray. And Star Wars was definitely affected because they had this plan of where they want to go. They announced the big Faloni movie at the end of 2026. And they have the Daisy Ridley movie that's supposed to come out in May of 2026. So then there were reports, and this first report was that they were just turning it into a movie. And then I had heard some things, and then Jeff Snyder reported something on the hot mic with John Roker last week that, or it was actually not even last week.

I think it was the other day. But that essentially that was the case that they're turning it into a movie, but that it might be the first movie out of the gate, even over the Daisy Ridley movie. So I guess the first question is, is that a good move? And then, as we said in the thumbnail, I believe wholeheartedly, A, Favreau should direct it, B, he's going to direct it. So I start with you, Ellis. Do you like this move at all about turning it from season four into a movie instead of a television show? If it's done for the right reasons, then yes. I'm fully on board because you know me.

going to a movie theater to watch Star Wars. Like the old days when you could get in for a nickel. What's the wrong reasons? The wrong reasons would be it's another reactionary move because fans themselves were more lukewarm on Mandalorian season three than they were on season one and two. So I hope it's on a knee-jerk reaction like, oh, the fans are kind of losing interest

in this episodic way that we're telling this Mandalorian story. Let's make a big bang and let's release it in theaters. Because the other reason you put the Mandalorian before a Daisy Ridley movie or whatever Flonny wants to do is because the Mandalorian has been the best-reviewed Star Wars material since probably the Force Awakens came out, right? As far as a consensus goes between fans and critics. So it makes sense to lead with that foot. I just hope you're not leading with that foot because you're nervous and you're tiptoeing on glass and saying,

well, this is something we know the fans, like, so let's give them that. I think it's all of that, to be honest. I think there's a lot of the good reasons that they're probably doing it and a lot of the bad reasons. It's in your estimation of what the bad reasons are. But what do you think? I think it's a good idea. You know, season three was my least favorite out of the season. Most people.

Most people. And part of it was because I feel like there was this era fluff that I never got in the first two seasons. And I think that part of that might be because they're trying to intertwine and interconnect all of these stories. And so if they're more movie focused in general than make it a movie. And it seems like they were trying to do that with season three in a way that I think will work for. their favor in season four. I think the main reason that they're probably doing it is definitely, as Mark said, they probably said, look, we lost a little bit of favor in season three, and we have season

four kind of mapped out. We need a movie that people are going to be excited about, and you can market it with Grogu. You can market it with Grogu. My son. Yeah, but you can market it with Grogo because you know why. That is a people who weren't even watching that show, whether you call them, they didn't call him Grogo.

they call them Baby Yoda. So if you're like, oh, the whole movie's marketing around Baby Yoda, there's a Baby Yoda movie. The casual viewer will go, oh, there's a new Star Wars movie and it's got that baby Yoda in it. It's kind of like your antenna goes up. Immediately. So it's a marketing tool that would make sense for them to do. Daisy Ridley movie also makes sense because there was a casual viewer. But the only thing is, again, the people were kind of getting bored of that trilogy.

And the last one, which I didn't mind, but everybody else hated it. It's not great movie. It's cotton candy, the Rise of Skywalker. It's fun. I still love Rise of Skywalker. It's cotton candy, but it's, but it's a... I don't think it's, I mean, we can have that conversation all day. It doesn't matter.

Regardless, it didn't, it didn't go over well with everybody. The fan response is not what, what anybody would have hoped for, making like the last Star Wars movie in the Skywalker saga, you want to call that. The entire trilogy is because the Force Awakens when it comes out, everybody's like, oh, this is, this is great. You're loving it. And we've talked about it when we did our watch long again, the problem that I have it with it now is I don't like Episphabankan,

and like I said, nine to me is fluff, that I don't really get excited after I watched the first one, because I know what's coming afterwards. And so that's the problem with that one. Last Jedi has gotten seemingly worse and worse for me every time I watch it, and to repeat myself for the fifth time, it's the ninth one is just a cotton candy. And then Adam Driver, by the way, was on Rich Eisen.

And he was talking about, and did you hear this? No. So, and this is the other thing, that what was the biggest, you and I had this conversation all the time, on Shmoh's in Collider, I thought you can't redeem this guy. You can't do it. He wasn't going to be redeemed. He said it on Rich Eisen.

He said that the original plan was that it was supposed to be the opposite of Vader. Vader starts off like this really evil guy by the Jedi is the most vulnerable for sure. And you kind of see it coming. It was supposed to be the opposite for Kylo. It was supposed to be like he starts off with kind of confused and the thing with his dad. And then by the time you get to the last one, he's about his evil. turned into the dark side as you can. There's never supposed to be this triad thing with him and Ray, and that kind of came.

It started with Ryan Johnson. They said they just kind of flipped it on its head by the ninth one. And it's like, it just shows. They didn't know what they were doing in that trilogy at all until like, you know, they still didn't know what they were doing. We're writing it until before they started shooting. Well, the passing of the baton was very clunky. But I mean, if you're looking at like the future going forward, how to like rectify it,

I think the answer is you do not try to stop trying to rectify crap that happened in the past. Stop trying to like, I hope this new Daisy Ridley movie isn't trying to adjudicate anything that we saw in the last Jedi that was controversial. Stop reacting to tell your goddamn story and have confidence in telling it and don't worry about what the fans are going to say. So going back to the Mandalorian point, it'd be great if John Favro was the director because he's earned it because that's his baby, right? I mean, the only argument that I would have against Favro directing it is that he was amazing kicking the MCU off. I didn't think that Ironman 2 was good because it was rushed. And so he didn't close as well as he opened, which that first Iron Man movie is damn near impossible to follow anyway.

Right. If you're going to do Mandalorian in a movie theater as opposed to at home, sure, let Faber direct it. It'd be cool to have, you know, kind of Pixar it and have a lot of the creatives that helped pitch in with a mandarin over the season, kind of roundtable it. Yeah. But, you know, stop trying to make fans happy about something. that they're never going to agree on

that's in the past now. Well, you got to, it's, you look at Last of Us, you look at like one piece, you look at these, a lot of these, another movie I just saw recently, I can't remember what it was, but it's like, oh, Godzilla, minus one. Have you guys seen it yet?

I'm so embarrassed that I haven't seen it. You need to see it. I tried to get tickets all weekend. It's so popular. Good. I know, I'm so happy, but I'm pissed. Yeah, I was waiting until I was, like,

done with all my work obligations, which I am now other than stand-up, and so I'm going to probably try to see it this weekend. One of the best movies I've seen in like five years. It's, it's on, like, is you your favorite of the year? It's in the conversation. It's in the conversation. I'm so excited.

So it's, but the movie, but the reason I bring it up also is because I was going, you and I had seen so many of these monster movies and Godzilla movies. I would just shove the popcorn in their face, have a blast. And that's why I was going into Godzilla minus one with that mindset. I took my daughter with me and I'm going, okay. And I never can't, you used to say, I would bitch about the human characters and Transformers movies and in those Kong movies all the time, who needs them? As would I?

Who needs unnecessary? Yeah, they were so, especially the one that came out during the Pandi. Yeah, who cares? Yeah. They're worthless. The human characters are so necessary. And when Godzilla shows up, it's earned because you care so much about the story. And I bring that up because that's what they need to do in the Star Wars movies.

You got to make me care so much about in the way that you did with the lead-up to the Mandalorian and Grogu in that first season. Don't show Grogu until it's earned. Until it's earned. I don't want to hear a baby babble until 20 minutes in. It's the inciting insin. I still have corn in my bag when that creature shows up. It's a failure.

But if they do it, but if they have them, whatever it is, they set it up. Because remember, this is the difference though. One of the big complaints, and I, you and I both had this complaint with the Mandalorians, for some reason, especially in season three, the episodes are like 30 minutes, 35 minutes, maybe 40 minutes if we're lucky, right? And as you said, they felt kind of fillerish at times. You can guarantee that this movie, that they condensed this season four scripts

into one two hour and 15, two hour and 20 minute movie. Sure. That'll give you time to build up. And what it also does, it does essentially launch as opposed to close out, as you're saying with Fabro. He is going to be launching because we've got to get to this place. If that movie comes out,

Like a skeleton crew, Asoka Season 2, Mandalorian, they all tie into the end game, which is Foloni's movie in maybe 2026, which is the other part of this conversation. So if Favro launches, it is long. We're not going to have any water by there. We're worried about movies. We're not going to be all eating chemical meat by that. Yeah, there's going to be self-driving cars. Do you guys still do the same thing?

You guys want to come over with my barbecue? We're going to queue up roaches and crickets. and all the protein you love in 2026. Do you guys do the Jetson face when you see, when you see the self-driving cars passed down the street? I'm like, it's still like, it's going to be like nothing soon. I know I see like moms like this in their Teslas. And they can.

I mean, it's like they shouldn't, but they do. But the self-the ones with nobody in it, the robot cars. I haven't seen a full robot car. You haven't seen the self-driving cars? Are we allowing them on the road? Oh, dude, they're everywhere. I've seen like six of them in the last like two weeks. Yes.

Like so I was with, I was with my youngest. It was a smaller person driving. Driving through and it's just, and you know that they have, they've got like the, the, the, the, the, the infusions on the top, you know? Yeah. And it's going through and you're like, oh, this is one of those cars. And you look through and every time, it's like, wait, what? Yeah, it's just the self-drub, no one's in it, just driving by itself,

making the, the turn and everything. And it's like, I'm still, I've seen the reports on the cars. And there's still some crashes here and there with them, but they're, But they're on the road. I'd be so pissed if I got hit by a self-driving car. Because you go out to yell at and what are you yelling at? Who are you yelling at? There's nothing to take that anger out on.

But the flip side of that is there's nobody coming out asking you for your license. Right, right. You can bump it and take off. I'm just going to leave. The amount of cameras that are probably in that car. I know. They catch you in 4K. Yeah, but I don't know how we got down that road.

But either way. Well, we're talking Star Wars. We might as well talk technology. And then I brought up the apocalypse, which is always fun. That's right. I do have those little R2D2 deliveries. I'm telling you. But by the time we get the actual movie itself,

I don't think they're going to stick to the schedule. Kathleen Kennedy has made a career out of saying, this is when this movie's coming out? Just kidding. Because Patty Jenkins' movie is supposed to come out like this week. Right. Oh, well, we should get tickets. We should get to the theater.

It's the December movie. Take a back seat, Godzilla. The Taika movie was coming out at one point this month. You know, like he hasn't written the script. Well, the frustrating thing about all this to me is like, again, I said I'd sign off on a Manoorian movie because I, you know, and you look at that couple with Filoni's movie where we're closing out chapters of like this, this TV that we've really enjoyed and the war that we've really been building since the Clone Wars animated show. So coupled with the films, obviously. So let's have that and let's enjoy that moment. But then let's get to a different time period.

And that's what scares me about hearing, well, they still have to set up for skeleton crew. they have to do all this. It's like, just get out of this goddamn time period. But they're leading up to that, though. And I think that you're right. Because they're also why they're doing next year in 2024, the two shows that they have coming out, Skeleton Crew at the end of next year.

But first is the Acolyte, which takes place like 100 years before the Phantom Menace. Sign me up. Right. So they are starting to kind of test the waters there, but it all leads up to the end of that time period that you're talking about. But I think that it does make sense for me. And my overall opinion on it, the more I think about it is I do think this is the play.

Because I do think that you don't, I actually do, it's weird because what Ellis said, I understand that if it's just kind of a knee-jerk reaction, don't do that. But I also think there's merit to the fact that, like, look, we put out two amazing seasons of this show. The Thurwin did not go well. Follone wasn't really that involved with it. He's going to be very involved in this movie because it ultimately leads to his, and he's going to have that partnership with Favro.

Favre decides to direct it, and you have this two hour and 15 minute movie, and you hit big with characters that are pretty popular, and if you hit it big and that's how you close out the Mandalorian, then you pass a baton to the new Star Wars shows that are coming out. You don't have, you need to do it anyway. It's a good way to close it out,

leading, because it's not the end of the last time we're going to see Dinn, because he's going to pop up in the Flonie movie at the end of it. The Soka, yeah. Yeah, probably. So it's like, I think doing a movie, I think Favreau doing it because he can collaborate with Faloni really well,

because they have, they'll have a good idea of, you know, Fever knows how to pass, you know what I mean? Like when it comes to, because even with, he helped out a lot of the Civil War and those things, he helped out with, well, yeah, I set up Tony this way, did this too. He's always been a, and helpful

inside the MCU. No, it seems like the creatives at, you know, the powers that be there are doing their job very well. Now. And they're communicating well. Right. Which is what you want. So if you're telling multiple stories and you're juggling multiple time periods at the same time, the issue I have is like, it's really hard,

I think for a lot of fans, just more casual fans, to see something on TV and then be like, oh, well, now I got to, now I got to go to the theater to see how this closes out. Like, this feels like something like El Camino did with Breaking Bad where, oh, cool, we watch Breaking Bad from our couch, the whole show. Right. And now there's this continuation of that we continue to get to watch on streaming where in my ideal world, the next Star Wars movie that comes out would be like the beginning of time. Yeah. And it would be a blank slate and just wipe all that stuff clean as opposed to. They are doing that, though, by the way.

Eventually. With James Mangold. Right. In 20, 45. Yeah. I'm going to have kids by that. And I don't even want them. Right, right.

So. That will be the day. Yeah. You hear that, Jr. Didn't want you. Or the kids you have, you'll actually get introduced to. As I'm waiting in line to see the movie, like, I'm single and I'm 65. And what the hell is this thing?

20 years old. That looks like my hooters hat. In the Ellis family, it's not a lightsaber that gets passed down. It's a hooters hat. Yeah. Perfect. But, like. That's the thing that I would

that I would most like to see is just you know close out the way that you started. Yeah. But if there is going to be a live action Mandalorian film that gets released in theaters, I'm going to be excited about it. I'm going to see it. And I think Faber would be the right guy to direct it

to very long windedly 15 minutes later to answer the initial question. What do you think, Steph? Do you think Favro is the guy that should launch it or should be somebody else should be Pheloni? Who should be? Oh, no. Yeah, it should definitely be Favro.

Yeah. Yeah, I think that I, I still feel like his batting average is very high, even though like there's been some things that have not been my favorite. But that's like any creator that you really love. Like there's not one creator that I'm like, oh, every movie, every show they've done is perfect. Yeah, I mean, but Missouri, his movies.

Are great. Yeah, and I think it's a good. I just think that if you can close that and you have the story and you can really develop it a little bit more. And they'll have a bigger budget to play with, you know. And it would. I hope they don't do as much, like, rely too much on the real screen.

Like the volume? The volume. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it makes a story smaller. I agree. When I think about season three in hindsight, it's like when you even, I was so excited to see all the Mandalorians and it's like, when you see them in the volume, it's like, are there 10 of them? Like, how are they going to

repopulate? Is this incest? Like, I don't know. Even on that cave. Yeah, yeah. But then it should be hundreds, you know, but for some reason, the way it's shot looks so small. You know, I saw you from across the room there. and I realized we're not related. And I can't really see your face

because of the helmet and everything. So I won't tell anybody if you're on. It's pretty much like, okay, let's take it off together. Three, two, you leave yours on. You know what, now you're taking it off? Put it back on. Put it back on, quick. Anyway, so there's a lot here, obviously.

Can I ask you a quick question real quick within the Star Wars conversation? How are we going to start the movies? I think it's a much bigger issue. It's a much bigger issue. Then everybody at Lucasfilm made it. Yeah, they added the crawl back for Asoka. That's what I love the star. I love the big star.

The crawl's coming back. Right? The crawl's coming back. I think they actually made an announcement that the crawl is coming back. Okay, good. Yeah. Because it didn't feel as exciting. And I think that it's one of those things where it's like if you're organizing a comedy show,

people are going to want to know who's on the lineup, like how many tickets, like all that stuff. Nobody really talks about, hey, who's the first person getting introduced and how are we introducing them? Because that is what sets the tempo for the entire event. Which is why, like, I still love Mandalorian and all the shows that I've actually finished watching, because I'm a lazy Star Wars, a big Star Wars fan, but a lazy one. And every time you hit play, it's just like, and now our story begins.

I want to be blown the F away. So I agree with that. And I think that one of the reasons why is because there's, again, merit to the fact when you're doing something, anything that you're doing, as much Star Wars, whatever, if something came before you, you go, well, we want to pay homage, but we want to do our own thing, right? And sometimes doing your own thing overshadows, like what came before. When we talk about Obi-Wan, like, we're not going to use any of John Williams themes. Why?

It's Obi-Wan. It would relate. It would make sense that it would come. There's other times, if you do Asoka stuff, it's like, yeah, guess what? Asoka, they use music from rebels because it ties in to it. And Kevin Kiner, and he actually added themes from John Williams in there. It wasn't over the top, and it didn't slam me over the head, but it was there to let you know, oh, this is the Star Wars music. And they do this thing, the taking away the crawl.

Well, we want to make it. this isn't George Lucas of Star Wars anymore. This is our, this is the new realm. And it's like, we're only going to do it for the saga films. It's like, no, it's what makes Star Wars Star Wars. But you can still have different things that you do to make it, you know, stand out that this is your movie. But, you know, the way that they, hopefully, with Faloni now taking this new role, that starts to change. Yeah.

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chocolate ones thank you I got a great impression I have a great impression that my little one did of my mother-in-law but I'll I'll tell you off air. Okay. The little little one? Yeah. She's doing impressions. She's good.

She's a comedy dynamo. No, yeah. You know, the difference, they're both really funny, my kids, but like the older one is like us to where you saw her perform at my brother's wedding. She's always ready to turn it on. She's ready to turn it on. She knows she's trying to get the laughs. The little one's not trying to get shit. That's like structured and unstructured comedy.

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She was doing chalk art and I was like, that's so cool. She said, don't look. It didn't even make eye contact with me. I was like, I won't. I think she thought you were my wife. Oh. But that's why because she didn't want us to see anything. She did like these drawings.

She wants to show you after. Yeah. The little one has more like comic in the green room. Don't talk to me until I go on stage. And then the older one is kind of like, hey, after the show, hey, how you doing? Nice to meet you. How you doing? Brody Stevens, Dane Cook.

That's who it is. Speaking of stand-up, and they brought it up in the beginning of the show. The full show is on Patreon right now, Patreon. com slash the big thing show after twisting Mark Ellis's arm. But we were talking about Roxy, and I was bummed because of the full show. They sent me, what they did send me, they sent me, they sent, like each set, but not the full show. So there's, like, for the most part,

Roxy's in-between bits are there, but there's a couple of them that were cut off. Like the Brett one's there, which is great. I don't know if you see you didn't see. She was very excited about the in-between bits too. So what she did really, really well. She was great, by the way. Just blanket statement.

She was great. Her and I had, we'll say some conversations leading up to the show. You had full meeting with her. She did amazing. She's so grateful for that. Of course she killed down. I don't know what was in her head. You're a host.

She playfully threw you under the bus the other day, which is amazing. We were talking about it. And she goes, yeah, well, Steph tells me, we're going to do it. And I found out through you talking to me that Steph wasn't going to be there because of a wedding. And then I wrote back to Steph, are you not going to be there? And she wrote back, no, I have a wedding, but you're going to be great. But she was. Like, what?

She was panicking. The best, I didn't tell you this. And I talked about it on the air with her, but like, you and I talked about it on the air with her. but like you and I have been in this game for so long that what happens is the DJ or the MC, not the MC but the sound guy, the sound engineer. The voice of God. The sound engineer was at Flapper, very nice guy.

It's like getting everybody's intro music and everything too and he's like, all right, Roxy, you ready? And she's like, why are you asking me that? Why are you asking me that? And he looks at her, he goes, because you get the MC. And it was great. Because he's just like, but she was so good

and she was so composed, And you couldn't really tell that she told people she was nervous, but not in a way where she didn't flub her line. She was... She's a performer. She's a performer. That's what I told her. And she said to her, when she got her, she's like, I'll never do this again. And I said to her, we do a show, Mark and I, and we want you to host, you're not going to do it.

She's like, I'll probably do it. I mean, like, anytime I say, oh, Roxy was really excited about doing it, it's like, it's under this 50 feet of just being terrified of it. Even, like, after the show, I was to, like, text her because I had to run off and do another set. like, hey, how'd the rest of everybody do? It was a good show. And she's like, I'm still terrified. And I'm like, why? You did it.

Yeah, because it's like, you shot the Death Star. You're back, you're back on base. And she'll be really, and she'll be really good at it for sure. I want to do. You know what I really want to do? And you and I've talked about doing a show together, uh, same? I want to, you think we'd be able to sell out the L portal if we had enough time. I think if, uh, with the right craftsmanship, we could pull that off.

I'd love to do the L portal. Pretty good room. It's a little pricey. It's a little pricey. But it's something, there's something about it. do it on an off night. Yeah, but there's also something about Brownhaw's Day. Yeah, nostalgia. Tuesday afternoon. Come watch

the Punksitani Phil reveal with Christian and Mark. You said March, so Groundhog Day is possible. Oh, is that February. That's February. Leap year is the end of February. Technically, it's February. My birthday. When's your birthday? March 10th. Okay, we'll do. That's what you're going to do? Yeah, right. We're going to schedule another event on your birthday. No, I'm not going to do anything on my birthday this year. I decided last year, I'm never doing anything again.

Like, what did you do in your birthday last year? My sister forced me to do a birthday dinner with our friends. I hate, I hate commingling friends from different groups and different time eras. Co-sign. Hate it. Why? Because I've never seen you so pissed off.

I know, I know. Because I, I think I have a thing about me where I can get along with very different people that are sometimes hard to get along with other people. Right. And so when you put... So you knew it was a recipe for disaster. Yeah. And it's awkward.

And I think a lot of my one of my friend was like, I think you have a lot of friends who think that they're your number one best friend. Tell me about it. They're not. They're not. Yeah. You and I, same creature. You know what I mean?

And so I didn't know who to give attention to. Right. I love everyone. It wasn't fun. So I just would rather just... Come to a comedy club. Right. All right.

So look, let's run out the L. Portal. Yeah. Give me work on my birthday. I'm in Vegas on Steph's birthday. Oh, my God. Have a great comedy show. How do you already know?

Yeah, I got to segment it out. We'll give you a shout on the stage. Okay, yeah. Book me out. Yeah, but it's the nostalgia of it all, O'D Portal. That's kind of why I want to do it. I get it, yeah. And look, it's five minutes from my place.

What about Tax Day, April 14th or whatever it is? That's fun. Throwing a lot of dates at us here. I know, sorry. I'm just getting really excited. We will try to do something. I think it would be something. I mean, if we can do that theater, that'd be amazing.

Because it seats like 375. Is it that big? Really? Man, we used to be so popular. I know. Well, remember the Chicago one? Yeah. The Athenium theater.

1,000 people. Okay, one last date, made the fourth. I mean, who knows? You never know. We're talking. I'm not booked that far out. We're talking. Okay, great.

Yeah, so contrary to people's belief, Mark and I actually do speak. I love that question. I love it. Yeah, someone asked me that recently. I relish it. Like someone in, not within our certain, but someone was like, you ever talk to Mark Ellis? It's like like every day. People ask Roxy that about me.

You're right, because, yeah, you're not every day. A lot. I don't talk to anybody. If I went through my text, if I went through my, Molly is the only one I associate with. No world are you, do you not, you and I text once a week. I can have, even if they're little random ones. I got pictures of, of dogs sleeping here. I have, let's see, look, I have put my,

That's me responding to you asked me to do the show. Hell, hell, oh, that one was. Yeah, that one was. I said there's a world. He texts me. You send me, no. You send me, you send me this barstall suit, this barstool clip out of nowhere. That's bullshit.

Actually, okay, if you take it, you and I talk once a week, if you don't include all the fight vits that we send each other. Guess what movie I'm walking into, not a current release. I write Godzilla. He reads, and then I quickly stopped and said, nope, die hard. Yeah, you were pretty good at that. Yeah, so. I watched up for the first time. On the base screen or the small screen?

Die Hard is the first time you've ever watched it? Did you watch it on camera? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was amazing. I'm so mad that I didn't know that. Oh, you have to ask me, there's a ton of 80s actions films. I had it. I know, I know.

You took your glasses off? Like it was the reveal in a disaster movie. Like, she hasn't seen Die Hard. Well, she didn't see it with us. I know. That makes me sad. It was incredible. Wait, so.

It's really good. You saw it at home or in a theater? No, on. I did it for the Sinapel? Yeah, Sinapal. Oh, yeah. Like, seen it on the big screen.

I've never seen it in a theater before. You're watching on the big screen. I'm going to watch it on my projector. Oh, it's awesome. Well, let me ask you this, because this is the question that it's the, it's the tired question. Christmas movie.

Yes, absolutely. It's fully a Christmas movie. Of course it is. He's trying to get home to Christmas. That's what people don't understand. People always take the idea of, because it's an action movie. We're not asking you,

we're not asking you if it's an action movie, if it's a family movie, if it's a drama, if it's comedy, if it's a Christmas movie. How is it even a debate? It is a major debate. I know, I know, but that's so weird. It's so clearly a Christmas movie. The whole thing is a Christmas party.

Yeah. And there's Christmas music, bookending it. It's a Christmas movie. It's a hands-down Christmas movie. It's an action film. Anyone who says it's not is a moron. And it is the best action movie ever. Yeah.

Yeah. It is. It's one of my favorite movies ever. Have you ever seen Lethal Weapon One? No. Maybe that's one. I feel like just watching it again, like I've seen it a thousand

times, but watching it again on the big screen, just watching the way that it builds. It's the perfect. It's perfect. It's great. It's great. All right, what say you guys? Even though I said I called you a moron if you think it's not a Christmas movie. What do you think? Is it a Christmas movie or it's not a Christmas movie? All right. Next topic here.

Wonka. Wonka, Wonka. Tracking for $35 million debut weekend in the States. It's already doing well overseas. So this is from Dark Horizons, the Timothy Shalame-led Wanka is on track for a 35 million domestic opening weekend as the film opens in more than 4,150 locations, including IMAX and other premium formats. That would make it the young actor's second biggest office opening to date behind only Dune in 2021, which debuted to 41 million during the pandemic. The movie is directed by Paul King, and it already opened a three dozen overseas markets last week to a great response. with a hall of 43.2 million. That global footprint will expand this weekend

along with the U.S. debut. The film boasts a production budget of 125, thank you, and is aiming to lure family audiences over the holiday period, thus a strong opening is good, but how it fares in subsequent weekends will tell the tale. Sounds so creepy. We're trying to lure family. Yeah, yeah.

Come on, families, follow the carrots. Come watch the candy. You want to watch a movie in our van? Imagination. Your daughter's first crush. Yeah. Have a little piece of chocolate. Come look at my lump a little bit.

The hope is more the greatest showman and less cats. Salome stars as a young Wonka around 25 years earlier than the novel and well before he became the famed chocolate factory owner. Yada, yada. So do you see this one yet? I did not see Wonka. I'm going to say this, but I mean it with love. I do not care about this movie at all.

Having said that, I'm a big sports fan. I can watch a football game. Like if the Falcons are playing the Buccaneers, I don't particularly care of who. wins, I can really enjoy that football. So I could enjoy this movie if I ever sat down to watch it. But this is one of those ones where the critical word of mouth has been very positive.

I think it's 84% on the tomato meter. It's already certified fresh. So that means the bulk of the reviews have already come in and they're very positive. You know, it's just nothing that's going to really be up my alley. I do like what I've heard about the storytelling of it.

That we don't have to spend all goddamn movie waiting for him to become this. No, but you're getting tired of musicals. Aren't you? I'm perennially tired of musicals. That's what I meant. But then you get me in the theater for any musical and within five minutes,

I'm just singing and dancing and toast. If you have to go to the movie, you're not going to choose to go see a musical, but if you're at the musical, you're going to enjoy yourself if it's a good music. If Godzilla minus one is sold out, and my mom said she's not going to be back in the theater. You're going to watch you with your family.

Yeah. With your nephews. If they ask then, then you'll take them. So that's the point here. And this is where, like, so. The luring of families. More or less.

You've been lured. Of uncles. Yes. Because the thing is for me is that this movie, and for people that don't know how rotten tomatoes works again, anything over a three out of like five is a positive score. So you could be right at the edge. You'd be right the edge and go, it's fine. I'll give it a three.

And that adds to that 87, 88%. Count me as one of those people, right? So I love the Gene Wilder one. I love it. I've talked about this movie already. And what I loved about the Gene Wilder movie is that Wanka's got a bit of an edge to him. You know, it's kind of, it's got, there's like a dark energy going on for the whole thing. Yeah, he does.

He does. He does not have that at all in this. He's very innocent. He is, he's naive. He's not, he doesn't have, there's a lot of different things going on in this movie where it's a full musical. And you know, like, where you're trying to figure out kind of if he's magic in the first one. Right. You know, there's like little things here.

And then he just pulls off these tricks. out the whole thing. Like, oh, this guy's kind of mad. And people are floating around from his candy from the second he arrives into the town. So it is a full-blown musical. It gets a little goofy sometimes. And it is definitely made for children

in the way, like Paul King, who did Paddington. Those movies are perfect. Perfect. But it feels more in that I'm the Paddington guy than I'm trying to make a walk-a-movie. And that could be okay normally. But the problem is it's clearly trying to connect to the Gene Wilder movie.

It's got the same music. It's playing into, it's not like, I hate that Johnny Depp movie. I hate it. Steph, did you ever see it because like, were you a fan of it when it came out just in terms of, because like when I do like my on the street show with Rotten Tomatoes, like one of the popular questions this past month has been like, who's the best Willy Wonka. Surprising amount of Johnny Depp answer, just because that's who grew up with it. Right, well, my point with that though. Did you grow up with that one?

No, no, I watched the original. Yeah, I love Gene Wamp. My point with that one though, as much as I don't, I like the first. 20 minutes of it, and then it just turns into a weird thing. It looks cool, but it's weird. Yeah, but the difference, but the thing is I will give credit to that movie, it doesn't try to be the Gene Wilder movie. It's something completely different.

And in order, because it is, you're never comparing the two, you shouldn't. I mean, people will just do it on a matter, but you can't compare it. People are like, you can't compare this one. You can, when they're telling you that it's connected to it. Like, that's the whole point, because eventually, it's like solo. Eventually, solo has to turn into the solo that we see in the new hope because it's connected in the same way that this one has to and I think Shalami is charming

but it's a different version of Wanka but families will definitely respond to it and I can see it doing very well So how many Shmows did you get it? I think out of five I think like 3.1 All right so it's fresh for you Yeah all right

I mean I'm just trying to You can probably count on one hand the amount of performances that you've seen in a movie where it's not the original architect of the performance like Gene Wilder played Willie Wonka

and was fantastic in it everybody universally pretty much agrees that. So has there been a scenario in cinema history where somebody else stepped into an iconic role and it was a good movie? Like, I like solo. So I would put Alden Aaron Reich's on solo in that category, but it's few and far between.

It's like replacing the lead singer of a great band. It's very, very tough. Ruffalo's another one, yeah. For Hulk, yeah. I think Anya Taylor Joy could be like really good for Furiosa. Furiosa. That's a good one. I did not.

I just did, I felt nothing watching that trailer. It was... Not that it looked amazing. It looked fake to me. You think it looked like ass as far as the effects go. But like, again, that's something where it may not be finished. Okay, so I'm not going to like hold it over the calls for that. But the story wise, it just felt like, it felt like nothing.

I think that the man's almost 90 years old, wherever he is. I think that they probably took a lot of locations out of this one. And they probably put them in the volume and probably did some more stuff too to where they didn't put as much heavy location. like they did in the first one. But the way that I said, I said it looks very clean yet dirty. Oh, yeah. Because it's supposed to be a dirty movie,

but yeah, it looks really clean. Yeah. But I understand, like, I liked the trailer. None of it looked realistic to me. And I think that's fair. I think that's fair. I think, and I saw a lot of that criticism, too. I didn't mind it.

I'm curious to think the reason why, because what there's, oh, you know what movie comes out the same day is that right now, unless it moves? Apes. Oh, really? I think that's dumb.

I think they need to move that movie because they don't have, Charlie Sterron. You don't and you don't have Tom Hardy in that movie. Right. And you have the apes. It doesn't matter who's in that movie. I love the apes.

I'm so team Caesar. Apparently it's great. Yeah. Caesar ain't in this one though. I know, but like the idea of monkeys leading a revolution, I'm going with them. I like that we're getting closer.

The idea of them on horses, riding. Fully. It's like. It's truly iconic. I'm going with the apes. I can't. Me too.

And I'm going with the aliens. Which ones? The one's for real aliens? Whoever takes us. I'm going with that. Absolutely. I'm with you. Just don't hurt our apes.

We need them to repopulate the earth. Yeah, that's probably what they're going to do. We probably are their apes. No, I feel like the visitors come down here. They look at us and they look at the primates. We're going to actually take the apes. Those orangut tanks are beautiful. Yeah.

I'm excited for that movie, though. Look at how well-behaved their kids are. I know. Yeah, they're like, what are these BBLs? Not taking human kids. We are not taking that. Totally true. All right.

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the Duffer Brothers, creators of the Stranger Things franchise, tell the Guardian that the upcoming fifth and final season of the series will be a world away from the first in terms of scale. The comments come as the final run. It's expected to stick entirely to the town of Hawkins and we'll see the original core kids of 11, Mike, Will, Dustin, and Lucas interacting more, Duffer tells the outlet. This season, it's like season one on steroids.

It's the biggest it's ever been in terms of scale, but it has been really fun because everyone's back together in Hawkins, the boys and 11 interacting more in line with how it was in season one. And yes, there may be spinoffs, but the story of 11 and Dustin and Lucas and Hopper, the stories are done here. The new season was slated for June 2023 filming start, but is now looking to kick out the first week of January 20, 24. Such a start pretty much confirms no chance of the series hitting next year with the final run probably in 2025.

Okay. So I'm actually, you know what's great about this is that, so it's as my daughter is getting older, some of the things I have to realize that the things that she used to like watching with me, she doesn't like to watch anymore. There's certain things she's like, I don't want to watch it anymore. She had kind of gone away from Star Wars, gone away from these things. She started watching like five nights at Freddy she watched. And she would have never really able to handle that. Yeah. And she loves it. And she reads, read all the books and everything too. And she's like, Dad, I want to watch stranger things.

And I was like, you know, you're probably ready for her now. Right. She loves it. She loves it. We start watching season one and we're like she watched like, now every night she wants to watch an episode. So we're in like season four, episode four of like season one. What's her favorite?

Characters? 11. She loves 11. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. And right now she can't stand Nancy and Steve because all they do is is makeout. Right. So we all have friends like that.

Yeah. So she's like, and Steve's kind of a jerk. I was like, yeah, I said, yeah, but it's... Good job! She's hitting all the right, all the right trod. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, but she's very excited about it, and it allows, because my wife and I got my, because my wife watched season one, season two, season two, and three, she watched one, two and three.

She started four, and she didn't like how, like, really horror it gets in, like, the first, like, two or three episodes. Did you watch four yet? I have not seen four, no. You'll love it, dude. Four is fantastic. Four is the best season, in my opinion. So, and then I finally got my wife to watch it again.

loved it. And now that my oldest is watching it, this gives us enough time to get through the entire library. And then by the time, you know, we'll probably have a little bit of leeway in between, but then we'll have season five that all three of us can watch together. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. That's good for the whole family. I mean, my sort of barometer is like whether I'm going to continue watching something is how much enjoyment was I getting out of the most recent season? That's fair. But also like how much enjoyment was I getting like when was it at its best? Do I believe it can get back there and do I care about it when it was at it's best enough to want to revisit it. And I just haven't, like, I had a great time with season one.

Season two and three just bored the crap out of me. So I'm like, a lot of people were like that, dude, and I'll tell you this, a lot of people were like that season, like we were talking about with the Mandalorian, where three was kind of like, either come back and try to do something else or make a movie. Season four of Stranger Things might be one of the best seasons of television, like, ever. I've heard it. It's so good. I've watched it twice.

Have you seen, did you watch season four? Yes, I can't remember if I finished it though. You'd remember. Yeah. You remember. Maybe I didn't watch it. Do you remember who Vecna is? Yes.

Then no. Yeah, no. It's like you don't, there's so much content that all the character names like run. You're like, did I watch that show or did I see a tweet that included that name? From what you're telling me, this sounds like I need to watch season four, but it's not a priority because season five isn't going to be around for like two years. So I can probably wait until it's coming out. Then I can get re-engratiated with season four.

That's probably a good idea too. But just know that season four, like the last, because they did it in like halves, but like the season, the last episode of season four is like two hours and 27 minutes. Wow. Yeah. It's like a movie. It's like a full on big movie. So I'm very excited for it because I think had season four not delivered, people would

people like, all right, just close it out, whatever. Right. Now people are like hyped for it because four was so good and four left on such a note where and that's hard to do. But is season five going to take place in like 1997? Because they're so old now? Yeah. Like has the grunge air already come and gone with these kids? I think that they're late, they're probably in the late 80s, almost like early 90s at this point.

It starts in 84. Millie Bobby Brown's going to be married. The coolest name. So much fun saying. It is. It's a great name. It's a great name. Solid name.

She's over it though. You can tell she's over it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she wanted to, I mean, you know, you spend your, she started the show when she was like 10 or 11 years old. And she's like, now she's like, I get it. I got to fill my obligations, but like, let's go. Right. Things do.

I'm 19 years old. It's like they're Harry Potter. I think that's also where like actors, like, like you talk about Adam and Driver talking about what they were going to do with Rise of Skywalker. It's, it's, you know, I think at a certain point you get asked so many questions and you're no longer really, you feel like you're a part of this world anymore. You moved on. Yeah. Now you air all the dirty laundry, which I don't necessarily care to hear about how the sausage was made with Stranger Things or Star Wars or anything.

I just want to see a good product. But with Stranger Things, it's like, that's why I felt so long in the tooth with season two and three. It's like, how much are we going to milk before these kids get wise and just decide to ride our bikes out of this stupid-ass state where all this stuff happens? I think they play. That's what Ford does really well. Go to college.

I'm telling you, see, but four plays with all of that. And four ties into one really, really well. Like, I was so shocked because I think going into four. Like, because I liked three. Yeah. And I was like, three was fine. And I went into four going, well, I'll watch it to see how it plays on. And I was just like, like, seriously, I watched it twice.

And I'll watch it a third time with my daughter. And it's like it really feels like it's what you're watching a movie. And this kid who plays Eddie, what's his name? Shoot. He's the kid that's rumored for Johnny Storm in Fantastic. Right. I did see that. Yeah.

Human Torch. So. Metallica now. when they play shows and they play Master of Puppets, sometimes on the video screen, they play the scene. Oh, do they really?

Oh, that's awesome. And, like, the kid who played Eddie, like, was backstage, like they gave me a guitar and stuff. That's great.

That's great. That's how I get my Stranger Things news. That's really great. I filtered through Metallica. Yeah. Have you been to any good concerts? Any of the one of you guys? I saw Billy Joel and Stevie Nix.

Okay. Took a date there. One ended up better than the other. Oh. No, the date ended up fine, but it's like, I don't want a date.

You just done. Yeah. Any more? It's always been like that. Probably ever. That concert was great. What else did I go see? I saw something recently.

I'm going to go see Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony and Joe Satriani and Jason Bonham are getting together to tour this summer. You saw you? Oh, yeah. At the sphere. What the heck? Yeah. So jealous. Dorena and Claudia had an extra ticket.

So, um. I want to go so bad and I don't even care about you too. I love you too. I never seen it. Unbelievable. Yeah, it was unbelievable. And we, like, Doreena was great because she got like floor seats. And so it's literally me, like from one side of this room to the other side of this room is how close I was to the stage, to the band U2.

And it's not a huge stage. The sphere is like this big, you know, it's a sphere. So you're looking up at all these projections and all this cool stuff. There is a bar set up here and a bar set up here on the floor. So you never have to like wait in the line. Sorry, where did you say it was? Las Vegas at the sphere. Oh, Las Vegas.

The new down. And so I go up to get a drink and the nice young lady, she hands me, she's like, is this your first time of the show? And I'm like, yes, my first time seeing you two in general. I'm really excited. Never said. They're one of my favorite bands. Never seen them before. And she's like, I think you're hearing a good night. And I'm like, ah, that something's happening. So I went back to the group and I was like, hey, I think somebody special is going to pop in. So my bet was David Letterman. Yeah. Because he did that documentary with you too. So I thought he might come up and introduce the band. Band comes on, starts kicking ass. They play the entire Octong Baby album, which is my favorite two album. Four songs. in Bono brings up Lady Gaga for two songs and it's just like brought the house down what even world am I in right that's great yeah I'm sorry I saw Ed Sheeran my I love Ed Shearing I can't believe how many people that motherfucker got into this the that's the people are obsessed with him so granted it was one show as opposed to the three or four that Taylor Swift but he broke the the record on one day like 75,000 or something it was it was crazy and I had a pretty good seats with a night kid can put on a show man right no and what I like about him is artists across multiple genres love

you love him they want to work with yeah and you can tell you can tell he's just he's just me he is that he is the definition of a musician right he really is like you can tell the way he owns the stage the stuff that he plays and like yeah and it was it was fun to go with my with my oldest she saw she saw Taylor Swift with my my wife and I would have paid so much money I did pay so much money but I just couldn't see but I like to see that too my my wife because They put, because the amount of money that I pay for those seats, they were still in the shit. Sure. Oh, I mean, because it was Taylor Swift as opposed to Ed Shear and we had really great seats.

But I don't know if you heard about this, but people are going nuts up there and it feels like a mini earthquake. And it even like registers or something crazy. So my wife was on top that just like, like, hold me like this. She's just like, never again. Am I going to that stadium? She's like, never again am I going to that stadium? And she's like, when we went to Ed Shears, like, how are the seats? Because she was supposed to come with me.

It was just going. And then she was just like, I'm not going to sofa again. I'm just not doing it. And then I was like, hey, you blew it because the seats we had were way better. Way better. It's also really tough getting out of that stadium after a show. So we did the trick that my wife and my daughter, if you don't really care, because for Taylor Swift, my daughter saw all this song.

She plays like four and a half hours. Yeah. So my daughter saw all the songs that she wanted to see. And she knew the set list. She knew what was coming. and she was like, when she started playing something, she said, we can leave. And they left and they beat the traffic out.

So I was like, all the songs I know for Ed Shearing and he played anyway and let's the fuck out of here. I did that at Guns and Roses. Did you? I saw the song, I saw most of the songs. Was it so far? Did you see him at Sofi? I saw the Bank of California, which is a cool venue,

but I'm like, at this point. Worst name ever. The Bank of California. Yeah. Did I saw him at Dodger Stadium? Yeah. They were great. They were amazing.

But I was also like, well, I got to get up early tomorrow. What would they close with? Paradise City. Yes. That would be hard for me to leave. I miss Paradise City, but I got welcome to the jungle. I got sweet child of mine. I got, you know, patience.

Mr. Brownstone, got some patience. Did they put patience? I think so, yeah. Amazing. I had a few beers. Our last story. Last story. Here it is.

I enjoy a cocktail from time to time. Yeah. Is that what we're here to talk about? Cocktails. Exactly. Yeah, hold on. All right. James Cameron.

Talking about Avatar 3. And Avatar 4. In a new interview with People magazine, James Cameron says the third Avatar remains on track for December 2025 release. In fact, he says things are moving smoother on the third one production-wise than the second as it's much more straightforward.

Part of the reason his post-production process got interrupted and rebooted multiple times due to the pandemic, resulting in a scramble to get it done. Separately, he spoke with GQ Magazine where he says, expanding the story of Avatar across numerous films allows him, to prioritize character. He says the big creative advance in Avatar 3 is just going to be the greater character depth.

We're seeing new cultures, new creatures, all the same stuff you expect from an Avatar movie, but the whole idea of this cycle of films is to live with these people and go on this epic journey with them. So I think it's not about we're going to show you the best water effects ever done, but you get more into the heart and soul of the characters, and there are some very interesting new characters that come in as well. This is a journey over time. It will play out through movie three into movie four and to movie five.

There's an epic cycle to the whole thing. He also touched about the fourth film in the people interview, which we know he shot parts of around the same time as the second and the third were in production. The reason that was done was to ensure age continuity among his characters due to the fourth film seeing a time jump. Today he revealed how long the jump is. We did motion capture on three and live action photography on three as an intermingled production with Avatar the Way of Water, we even did part of four because of the young characters are going to have to be a big time jump in the movie.

We see them and then we go away for six years and then we come back. And so the part we come back to is the part we haven't shot yet. So we'll start on that after three is released. This is partly why there is a four-year gap between three and four with later, the latter not arriving in cinemas until 2029, followed by the fifth film in 2013. All right. So the first thing I'm going to say before we even get into these comments in general, I love the Avatar movies. I love them.

I love the, every time I, when I saw the first one, I saw the first one in the theater and thought it was one of the greatest theater experiences I ever had. And then I watched it again. And when everybody else, I did feel like people were just hating on it, to hate on it because it was popular.

Right. And I loved it. And then when the second one came out, and I didn't know people were going to give a shit, and then it just destroyed in the theater. And it was, again, the same experience. It was just so much fun to watch. I look forward to these movies and the comments that he made made me realize so much why.

I care about these characters when I'm watching it. Yes, he's always going to make things look good, but I care about his stories in all of his movies. I care about his stories. He knows how to make big budget action films and I care about the characters. So I love it. I don't know. You hear these comments. What do you thought?

You love Avatar. I'm an Avatar super fan. I love Avatar so much. my one request James if you if there's anything you can do kill Spider I'm so afraid of that character's arc I he's gonna do I hate him he almost ruined the movie for me like when I rewatch it the character or the actor? Both oh really no I'm not gonna say the actor

the character okay it's such a like like he said you have these characters I'm in love with then Tiri is the best like one of my favorite female characters of all time where was she and yeat spider out, put Niteri back in. All the kids I actually care about, I want to, yeah, you want to talk about the cultures and the people, I want to hear them. Not another white boy on, like, in the, this beautiful realm you've created and then you put insert spider. I love, I love his arc because he annoyed me at first. And then when his arc came towards the end of what he's got to do, because it's the whole relationship, the whole movie's about the relationship with the parents.

I don't think it's going to happen. I think he's going to be the reason why there's a lot of shit going down. I think he's going to be one of those problems. I'm scared also about like what's going to happen because there's clearly a love interest with him and homegirl. Are we going to get like can they crossbreed? Like how far is James going to take this? Maybe he can throw himself into an avatar. That would be better.

Yeah, maybe. Do it, please. Just walk him in a room and it's like me and I have my tail thing and I'm like, okay, this goes where? Like you're just looking at it. I would pay money to see like a two and a half avatar sex movie. Yeah. I'm sure it's out there. Let's connect tales.

I'm sure it's out there. I want to know the mechanics of the connection. I love the connect tales. Spend some time in the internet and sort of find it. I can probably find some good stuff. Where do you stand on the avatar movies? You know what's weird is that I saw the first avatar like everybody else in the world did? And I was like that was a really cool theater experience.

I didn't really care about the characters after I left. When I was in the movie, I certainly did. I was like, you know, we all would love to think that we'd be like Sam Worthington's Marine and not like every other Marine. We probably would. But the second one, the way of water, I found myself like loving even more as far as the story goes. Like I got really invested in it.

I was really proud of myself because I saw it at the premiere and then I saw it again like the next week and I didn't have to pee either time. Like it was a three-day preparation to do that foot off. Because you didn't want to miss anything. Yeah, it's so good. People didn't even realize Kate Winslet was in that she was so good in it. I ride.

I say that line all the time. I can't believe she did that. And the fact that she played Spider, too. Like, you know. She is so versatile. It'd be funny to have the time jump like six years ahead and it's like Spider, but now he's just like a nerdy high school kid. And he's like, please, but that was me when I was thinking.

We all tried to do stuff. We were kids. And they call me Steve now. Yeah. It's like, it's like that scene in Carlito's way. And he's like, oh, no, no, no. He said, no moron. They call me Saso, no.

Call me Saso. That's some stink you don't make. Who's that? That sasso used to be wrong. This is the best. Love, love Carly does it. Anyway, we had fun today. I had a blast talking to my friends.

Before we even do anything else, do me a favor. Get those tickets. Mark Ellis, man. It's going to be there, December 22nd, 23rd in Seattle. Go and check them out if you're going to be in that area. And, hey, if you get some funds, you've got nothing to do, go fly to Seattle and go see him. Come on up. Love to have you.

Be good to have you. Steph, where can the first. people find you. At Steph's the Brawl or the world girls. Mark, anything else you want to tell the peeps? On the street on Rotten Tomatoes, all over your social media, all that good stuff. And then next year, I have a bunch of tour dates lined up. Sadly, there's

one on Steph's birthday. I'll see if I can have Vegas move the date. Got Boston, San Diego, Portland, a lot of fun places. And we'll start looking at some potential ideas for a live... Damn, right, yeah. I'm in. I can keep pitching, so just let me know. Maybe you actually co-host this time with Rocks.

I will be there. We'll see. Well, I say you'll be there. You'll say it. Yeah. That's why I said we'll see. All right, guys, hit that button. You see the thing flying around over there? That is a subscribe button and we want you to be part of it.

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