The Kristian Harloff Show - "HOLD ON! Paramount might actually buy Warner Brothers after all? What is happening?"
Episode Date: February 16, 2026Today on The Kristian Harloff Show, we break down the biggest entertainment and box office stories shaking up Hollywood right now. Warner Bros. is reportedly reconsidering its stance on Paramount's of...fer, raising major questions about the future of studio consolidation and what it could mean for the industry moving forward. We also dive into new comments surrounding The Batman: Part II, with the film's writer teasing a story that's being described as "new and dangerous." What does that mean for Robert Pattinson's Dark Knight, and how far will this sequel push Gotham into darker territory? At the box office, Wuthering Heights surprises analysts with a massive $80 million debut, while Send Help continues to show remarkable staying power week after week. Plus, we talk early buzz and fan speculation surrounding the first trailer for Spider-Man: Brand New Day, and what this next chapter could signal for the future of Spider-Man. All that and more movie news, box office analysis, and industry discussion on today's episode. Topics Covered: Warner Bros. reconsidering Paramount deal The Batman: Part II story details and tone Wuthering Heights $80M box office debut Send Help box office performance Spider-Man: Brand New Day trailer talk SPONSORS: LEESA: Go to https://www.Leesa.com for 30% off mattresses! PLUS get an extra $50 off with promo code KRISTIAN, exclusive for my listeners SQUARE: Get up to $200 off Square hardware when you sign up at https://www.square.com/go/kristian! #squarepod CASH APP: Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/76rlxe00 #CashAppPod. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement. Discounts and promotions provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit http://cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.
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Thomas says aliens are real.
Oh, wait, different show.
All right.
So we are going to be talking about Paramount.
Once again, in the loop,
looks like they have a shot to actually get winners now.
John Roker's head is spinning.
We'll be able to see why in just a moment.
The Batman Part 2 says it's new, dangerous.
Box office, Wuthering Heights comes in.
Big.
What else is doing well?
So we'll discuss that and more.
We got a lot to get into here today on the show with myself and John Roker.
Thanks for joining us on Presidents Day here today on the Christian Harlov show.
Let's get to it, everybody.
It's Monday.
Kuhl.
One of the many great gifts Eli Manning has given me and Kuel, definitely being one of those.
Joining me on the show today, he's Kuel.
I mean, sometimes.
John Roker is.
Hello.
John, what's going on?
man, we had a hell of a weekend.
Hell of a week. Yeah. Yeah.
I literally just released the video on the DTE channel because the story was going around about Obama.
What's his character's name who interviewed him?
Brian Toddler Cohen.
Okay.
So apparently from what I hear, very popular guy, people like we get millions of subscribers until yesterday.
I never heard of him.
So it just that means nothing except how out of touch I am.
That's all that means.
And that's all it means.
In the same way, I didn't know about market supplier.
And that guy, millions of subscribers.
That's true.
I think about it.
So here's what happened for people who didn't know.
He had him on the show.
They talked about a great many things.
And at one point, he says to him, he goes, so are aliens real?
Bomah's answer is, they're real, but they're not keeping them in area 51.
They're not doing it here.
And I've never seen him.
So unless there's a conspiracy, I don't know.
So the problem with that state, there's a lot of different one.
And this guy just, this guy just.
released a statement because he got destroyed on social media. Absolutely murdered for not for not
doing a follow-up. I mean, you got absolutely a blow. People, people on high levels were calling him out
for not doing the follow-up and everything to be. He was just getting annihilated. So much so that he
had to do a follow-up video. And he needed a follow-up video and he said that he then reached out to
Obama who then clarified his answer to said, no, he believes the standard answer, which I thought
would have given when asked that question of the galaxy is huge it could of course i believe that they
are real it could be and that's not what he said he'd right away said yes they're real but that can
be interpreted that's the first thing you ask is wait excuse me sir can you go back of it can you
clarify what you mean it didn't happen so the guy was like he came out he made it basically said i
dropped the ball you know i i've been this i've been up thinking about this and i should have asked a
follow-up question, I didn't. You can't, you can't do anything except applaud the guy for
owning it. But, you know, the problem is that I already know your stance. It's like,
you're probably, this is what he meant, and that's the problem with it. Because everybody's going
to say exactly that. My wife said that when I told her initially. It's like, yeah,
probably just thinks that the aliens are out there and, you know, but it was just, it was,
he dropped the ball by not asking the follow up. Oh. Yeah, I mean, I, I hear you. And I think,
I guess in my mind, because I know Brian Tyler Cohen, because I watch his stuff, I read his stuff.
He's, I think he's one of the best political reporters out there.
And I think the stances he takes are pretty powerful.
And he's walked in the lion's den a few times.
So he knows how to handle himself.
He does some good interviews.
But I think he just felt, and this is me speculating, right, that this is not what's top
of mind to a lot of people.
Because the economy is not doing well.
People are struggling.
Life is not easy.
International stuff.
domestic stuff, all the madness going on right now.
People have many more things on top of their minds than whether aliens exist or not,
which in my mind is a fun, fantasy, a hobby thing to consider,
and maybe someday we'll actually have proof, the concrete evidence.
And so, but, so maybe he felt it wasn't the right thing to follow up.
And maybe he best told by Obama's publicist that he was only going to answer one question
about this in Warren.
You and I've been a junk, Christian, we know, publicists sometimes say,
you can ask one thing or you can't even ask about this thing.
That's not the case.
Because he followed it up by saying he messed up.
That being said, him coming out and admitting that he dropped the ball,
I think is a very strong indictment of how important this issue can be to some people
and how loud people can be about this issue.
Because I don't think they would have felt the need to come over.
And even President Obama, former President Obama,
coming out with a statement, I think shows you how powerful the people who want answers
about this stuff can be on something.
social media. So credit to them for sure. Yeah. So, I mean, it was, it was a lot.
The problem, because I just, like I said, I just did a video on it on my down earth channel.
And the problem that I had is that if you said, most times, you've seen him on the show.
You've seen, you've seen other presidents that were sitting there and talk show house have asked them.
And they usually say the same thing. Look, I don't know. The galaxy is so big. It'd be ignorant to say.
that we're the only ones.
That's usually the standard answer.
Yeah.
Wasn't what he said here up top.
He said, the first question is, are aliens real?
He said, they're real, but.
Yeah, yeah.
They're real, but I haven't seen him, and they're not where you think they are.
That's a very different answer than what he, the second statement he put out.
So, right.
There's a lot of different reasons why he could have said it.
There's a lot of reasons why who could have said, listen.
He's also a human being.
Look, he's a very, you know, one of the most charismatic leaders, like, ever.
And he's human.
He could be sitting there and go, oh, my God.
Did I just say it like that?
Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah.
You know what?
I'll clarify.
If anybody asks clarification, give him a clarification.
You have a clarification.
And because there was no follow-up question, you got to believe the clarification.
Right.
So, anyway.
Interesting topic.
You want to hear more about it.
Head on over to the Down to Earth with Christian Arloff Channel.
if you want to do just that.
Okay, so that was the big news outside of movie stuff.
Then this article came and I just felt you wake up in wherever you were,
whether you were in a dead sleep or wherever you were.
This Paramount Warner Brothers story, it ain't going away.
Yeah.
Looks like there was enough banging on Dadaz's door that things are happening.
It seems at least.
So check the story out.
So it looks like Warner's is now considering the Paramount offer.
And I have so many questions about this.
Are you using the Merovingian?
Yes, it's hilarious.
It's really good.
Very well done by dark horizons here.
Garth Franklin.
Eighth time, maybe the charm.
Eighth time for Paramount Skydance.
A new report at Bloomberg claims that Warner Bros.
Discovery is considering reopening sale talks with Paramount Skydance Corps.
following their most recent amended offer in their hostile takeover attempts.
The trade says members of the studio board are discussing whether Paramount could offer a path
to a superior deal, a move that could ignite a second bidding war with Netflix.
The board reportedly still hasn't decided as yet how to respond and may stick with the
company's current deal with Netflix, according to the trader's sources.
There's also the obvious question as to whether this is just part of a negotiating tactic
with the board attempting to get Netflix to up its bid.
Both Paramount and Netflix have previously indicated they would be willing to raise their bids in order to secure a deal for Warner's.
Even as it has led to a backlash, Netflix shares have declined more than 40% since June.
Wow. I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Did you know that?
Yeah.
Wow. 40% is going down.
Crazy.
Paramount submitted its amended terms last week, which indicated it will cover a $2.8 billion fee owed to Netflix if Warner Brothers terminates its agreement.
Oh, interesting.
Interesting.
Along with offering to backstop a Warner Brothers debt refinancing and compensate shareholders
if the deal doesn't close by the end of the year.
The re-engage with Paramount Warner Brothers wouldn't need to notify Netflix first
and then try to get Paramount to increase its offer beyond $30 a share.
Then if Warner decides Paramount's new offer was superior,
Netflix would have the right to match it.
So this thing is still going on.
Yeah.
This is crazy.
Yeah.
It's a story that will not end.
It's a story that will not end.
And it's that guy who's like, dude, why you keep asking her out?
She said no so many times.
But he keeps coming back.
Well, no, I can get her to this.
I can get her that.
I can apply her with this.
So it becomes a sense of like, well, what the hell is going on here?
And, you know, maybe she's finally relenting.
Maybe she's finally like, okay, fine.
Yes, I'll go out with him just to get him to shut up.
We'll see.
Because the whole situation here is interesting because one of the,
a big shareholder, well not big, big in terms of amount, but certainly name, has come out and said
that they want the WB board to reengage with Paramount. They are one of the shareholders with WB,
and so they're trying to make this happen. And also last week, the person who oversees these
antitrust situations was a let go by Attorney General Pam Bondi. She was overseeing this stuff
and had been one of the people who was kind of, you know, kind of highlighting some of the issues
with some of these anti, some of these mergers recently.
So this is going to be interesting how this all plays out.
But the key thing is that Netflix has a right to match it.
So this is going to play out a little bit longer.
I do think Netflix will still in the end win this whole thing.
But I'm not surprised at Paramount's coming in with this desperately bigger offer.
And the thing is they could come in harder.
That's the thing that's frustrating to me.
They're still not going above that $30 share.
If you really fucking want this thing, go to $40.
a share. Go to $35 or share. This is a slow walk in this situation to me, and I don't know where
it's all leading to, but, you know, for me, you know what it does for me. It frustrates me because
we've seen now Amazon overpay for a Malani documentary to kiss Trump's ass. We've seen them
by CBS and are losing money hand over fist just to push an agenda. And so I wouldn't be surprised
because they would go, I think, 100, how many, 100 billion dollars into debt?
if they make this deal.
And so they go into debt just to take control of a studio,
but also take control of CNN.
So this just upsets me on so many levels.
Yeah, I don't know.
I'm just so confused with that.
Certain ways how business kind of works in this aspect.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Really smart people in the chat telling me how business works.
Tell me all about it, gentlemen.
Anyway, go ahead.
No, what I'm saying is the business side of what I don't understand is that it's like,
okay, you know, we have a deal.
We're a deal.
This is what's happening.
we got it, it's over, it's it.
And then it's like, well, I don't know.
I think that I want to, yeah, I liked what you offered.
Isn't there a contract?
That's what we're, that's what we settled on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what we got?
And it's like, but it's, but it's not.
And they're allowed to keep, keep doing this kind of thing and keep upping it.
But I think that, what were we negotiating for the first place then?
Yeah.
I just always feel like once you negotiate and you get a final deal, that's the final deal.
You're out.
That's what you should.
How would you feel if like you had negotiated a deal?
Let's say, Schmode out with Skybout.
Yeah.
And then another company had come in and had been knocking on your door, but they weren't quite getting over the line.
And then they came in with a larger bid.
After I already told Skybound, yes.
Yeah.
But you'd have to consider it, wouldn't you?
Of course, I would.
But I would also understand highly of Skybound was like, what are you doing?
Yeah, 100%.
What are you doing?
Like, yeah, well, now I have a, but they have a better deal now.
It's like, yeah, but that's part of the negotiation thing.
But it's, look, it's how it works.
The honest answer is the way that this puts it, well, you know what?
I like their deal better now.
So now that I've, yeah, I agree to you.
I shook your hand, but it doesn't mean shit.
This could also be a slow dance by Warner Brothers and Netflix to fuck with Paramount being like,
oh, yeah, sure, well, we'll take a look at your new bid.
We'll reconsider it.
It doesn't mean they'll do anything about it.
Just reconsidering, it doesn't mean they'll legitimately agree to it.
And, of course, in the end, it's about getting the best price.
So if it drives up the price for them from Netflix,
What do they care?
I still feel this isn't something.
I mean, look, as you and I were like, well, how does this really work?
Netflix was probably very well prepared for this, right?
And even the four-year, even the shares going down, probably prepared for that too.
And the idea, look, once we get this thing, shares will go back up.
So I don't worry about that.
Once we do all these other things, not worried about that.
So we just got to get this thing.
So, and I think that's why they're going through all the steps of arguing.
and with Ted Cruz and all of these other things in the middle of the,
because they,
they know,
they know what,
they got it.
Yeah.
And I still think they got it.
And I think that they're probably 100% right in this article that this is just
one of those things where it's like,
all right,
look,
you're going to use Paramount to up the,
what do you like?
You want a couple,
you want a couple more bucks?
Fine,
you get a couple more bucks,
right?
Sure.
Here you go.
You,
you want to,
you want to meet,
you want to meet,
you want to meet,
uh,
Kristen Bell and season three,
fine.
Come on over.
But it's,
but it's,
you know, it's one of these things.
It's like, so, I just don't, I think Paramount can try as hard as they want.
I just can't imagine.
But then again, I didn't think Netflix was going to get in the first place.
So what the hell do I know?
Right.
Yeah, a lot of people didn't feel that Netflix was going to get it, you know.
And in the end, like Jeff was like real, didn't think I was going to happen either.
And then in the end it did.
And so you're like, well, how long of a process is this going to be?
And I think Netflix is absolutely prepared for all of it.
this stuff, as you said, Christian, really well.
Like, Sarah, Sano's is like 10 steps ahead of all of them.
He knows what Paramount's going to do.
He knows exactly how to counter him.
And don't tell me, they don't have money for really high-powered lawyers to come in and go
and towed itself.
Exactly.
So I just don't see it happening, but, you know, it brings the drama out a little bit more.
Yeah.
So, there you go.
What do you guys think?
You mean Netflix is going to lose this thing?
Paramount have a chance in hell?
or do you think
this is just a bunch of nonsense.
Put your thoughts in there. Let us know.
Thank you to Lisa.
Thank you to Cash App.
Really excited to have them both on the show.
Okay.
Back here with John Roka.
Hello.
You know, so two things.
Well, first,
I love how your old man memory
is just getting as bad as mine.
Well, I'm older than.
You're so bound to happen.
I went back and watched when on our last Monday show, when I literally say to you,
I finally want you to be part of the bit here.
So we're going to have somebody tell you about Sean Moroni.
And you're going, and when you do it, you play into it.
You know, yeah, yeah, I got it.
I got it.
So not only, there's so many wonderful things about what happening here on the hot mic,
not only do they ask you about Sean Moroni and you are clueless.
And that you look him up on IMDB, which is amazing.
Not only does that happen.
Then you forget about the context of Sean Moroney
because you start making up a new scenario in your head.
We're like, oh, we talked about it on Christian shows.
He's a Christian just sucked my balls.
I'm like, I put you in the fucking bit.
You were in the bit.
You're like, oh, he's coming over here and messing with the show.
I was like, no, you were in the bit.
Absolutely.
I think that made it better.
Yeah, I, I, uh, accidentally.
Accidentally made it better.
Yeah.
I mean, I just completely forgot.
You know, because I do so many other shows through the week
and I got other stuff going on.
And so I'm talking to so many other people.
And then by the time this hit, I just completely forgot.
And they got me.
It got me for a while, too, which I think was hilarious.
Hilarious.
I'm glad I realized it would have gone for a whole hour.
I know.
I hadn't realized.
I know.
I wish you didn't.
At that point, the fact you shumeronied yourself, which is even better.
I felt because I let you in.
I let you in the fact that you were checking him out on IMDB is absolutely amazing.
I know.
I was like, wait, where the, how do you spell this guy's name?
Sean Moroni.
And then it occurred to me, I don't know what clicked, but all of a sudden I was like, oh, that's right.
It's Ellis.
Princess Positive tried to help too.
I saw her in there.
She's like, Roka, you guys talked about Sean Moroni on Christian show.
She's like, remember?
And you're like, it's so good.
Oh, so good.
I like that so much better now.
Anyway.
All right. So Roka's starting out the week. You almost had it last week, man.
I know. I thought you had, oh, Caps and Cal was, we were literally signing off and I was giving you the win.
Yeah. And then there was an influx of questions that came in at the end.
But yeah. So we're at 10 right now.
Come all people. Let's start. Let's see. If we can start the week out and if, if Roca can get a, here on this president, say, we can see if we can do it. You got 11 questions us for. Let's see if we can.
can do it. Come on. Come on. I'm a former military guy on President's Day. Send in you love people.
Come on. That's right. Eight years serving this country. That's 100%. And so the people should
should help you out here today and get to get you that win. We always do box office on
Monday. Yes. Yes. So let's do that. Let's check out what would. Did you find up seeing
Wuthering Heights? I'm seeing everything this afternoon. Okay. Wuthering Heights after the show and then
Crime 101. And if I've got enough energy, I'll try to see Goat as well.
well. I'm going to see how to make a killing tonight. Oh, nice. Okay. Check that one out.
You look forward to that one? Yeah, I'll tell you what. I did something really stupid.
The other day, I came into the office. I'm like, what in the world is that smell? I was like,
what is that? I was like, is that like, is that like, is that? The socks? The beef, what is that? I have
no idea. So I'm like, I don't know what it was. So I'm like, I couldn't find it. I couldn't find
I'm like, is there something in the, I'm like, did something die behind the walls here?
I'm like, what the fuck happened?
My wife came in because she was doing, she had, you know, she was, she had something
she had to do over the weekend.
She's like, what in the world having?
I go, I didn't get it.
I was like, I scrubbed this whole place clean.
Yeah.
Like, I'm like, okay, great.
Vacuum, did everything.
Okay, okay, put the AC on.
Everything's good.
And she's like, what happened here?
I'm like, damn, I didn't get it.
I was like, I also said to myself, like, okay, look, I don't get a phone call.
Good.
phone call comes in. I'm like, shit. Right? So she's like, I couldn't find it either. She didn't know what it was.
So this morning, I'm like, okay, I'm like, it's better. I don't know what it is, better. And then I got it again. Like, what the hell happened? I don't know what I did. I did this. But I had this water bottle and I must have put protein powder or something a long time ago. And I left it in there and forgot that it was there. And it almost melted my face off when I smelt it before. And I got rid of it. And I'm finally,
coming down from it and it's like it was bad to it real bad and I'm not telling I'm not
telling my wife that I discovered it was I'm just going to pretend I'm like oh just went away
yeah it was bad it was bad so that happened today you can't leave that shit out
yeah there's a reason why if you're on protein stuff your farts are like melt your
eyebrows it's it's it's horrendous and it was the first the first thing I did it they
had you know people came in and the first thing I asked them did you shit man
That's the first thing.
That's it.
All right, let's get to some of this box office because...
Yeah.
We got it.
Weathering Heights, $80 million debut for Weathering Heights,
showing that the...
I think it shows that the movie star has got a little power.
Yeah.
That's what I think.
I mean, yes.
I'm not possible.
I also think it was a good time that they released it on Valentine's Day.
Or Valentine's Day weekend, rather.
I think that it's...
With an effective Blitzkrieve marketing,
campaign. Weathering Heights is set to top the global box office this weekend.
40 million hall for domestic. After pulling
3 million in previews, question remains whether walk-up traffic will be affected on
Sunday minute. We'll look at the final numbers in the second here.
Sony Animation's goat is coming in ahead of his expectations with
title heading for 25 million. Let's see what the actual numbers are here.
They always do this report, you know, before the numbers come out.
So here's the actual, that's not it. Where the fuck is it?
Titanic 6th.
Wait a minute.
Oh.
I'm looking at Titanic for a Titanic.
Who the hell's looking at Titanic?
Okay, there it is.
Weathering Heights, 34.8, overall,
82 million domestic.
Yeah.
You got to like those numbers.
Already made its production budget back.
Got to like those numbers.
Goat, 47 million worldwide.
People who seem to like that one.
Did you see that one?
I haven't seen that one.
Like I said, I might go see it today.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Crime 101.
What was the budget on?
Amazon is a little.
I think it was 78 or actually it might have been more than
might have been 100 million. I don't know. Let me take it look real quick.
So this won't. This will be a streaming movie.
Yeah, it won't. Success wise. That's not it that's going to be one of those things.
Send help though makes another 9 million domestically 73 million so far for send help.
Yeah. And then Solo meal.
The Kevin James one makes 18 million. That couldn't have cost much to make.
Probably six.
Right? So that's that's got to be good marketing on that movie.
Very good.
I mean, Angel Studios, whatever my shoes are with Angel Studios, removing that,
you've got to give credit to the fact that they are figuring out how to make money at the box office with these faith-based movies.
It was made for $4 million and it's already made $19, as you said.
So that's a profit.
That's a tidy.
Total private.
Let me say Zootopia 2 in the sixth spot is pretty crazy.
Yeah.
1.8.
That's nuts.
Crushing Abbott.
Okay.
So there are people who have disappeared from the chat.
after calling me out.
The guy,
the guy he called me about Jay Uso,
a couple other people,
the guy who said that I was crazy,
that I thought Zutopia 2 would surpass
Avatar 3.
Where's that guy?
L.O.L.
is what he wrote.
L.O.L. Where's that guy?
Where do you go?
Where did he go?
So let's see. Good luck.
I heard this movie's really good.
Did you see this one?
The Vovinsky one?
No, that wasn't a screening here in San Diego for that.
Okay.
So I don't, I didn't get a chance
to see it, but that'll probably be on the list tomorrow.
I want to check that one out.
And then there is Avatar at the 8th spot at 1.4.
So it might get to 1.5 by the end of its run, but I don't know.
Did you hear my absolute lunatic prediction on Friday?
No.
What was your prediction?
We predicted.
So we predicted it.
Before I give you my prediction on it, I want to ask you, but sometimes you're good at box office, sometimes you're horrendous.
It depends on the movie.
It depends on the movie.
I'll give you three movies.
I want you to give me your worldwide prediction on them.
Okay.
I'm going to give you three.
And I'm going to give you the budgets, the proposed budgets on all three.
You got Clayface, which proposes a budget around like 40 mil.
So it just needs just close to 80 to break even, right?
You got Supergirl, which is rumored at 200 mil.
Yeah.
It needs just around 400 a little over to break even.
Okay.
And then Avengers Endgame, which is rumored anywhere between $800 million to a billion dollars.
Who knows what the real difference?
Let's call it, let's call it 800 million.
Okay.
And that it needs like 1.5, 1.6 to break even, right?
Yeah.
What are your three predictions?
Start with Clayface.
I think Clayface, 80 to 100 million.
I would say overall by the time it's done.
Worldwide.
Worldwide.
But here's the thing.
Unless there is a Batman appearance teased,
then that's a whole other ball again, right?
That's maybe 200 million because people want to see it.
Supergirl, I think Supergirl has a chance at 600 million worldwide.
Maybe more, but 600 is where I put it right now
because there's been such a backlash to the movie.
But if the movie is great, I think it will overcome the backlash.
Avengers.
Avengers 2.5 to 3.
2.5 to 3.
Okay, so you're, okay, listen.
So you actually don't,
you're not going to think my predictions.
Actually, the prediction out of those three that I have,
the one you'll think is crazy is not the one I think,
everyone else thinks is crazy.
Okay, okay.
Clayface, I think, is going to be a major hit.
But by major hit, I think like 130, 140.
Yeah.
That's a major hit for.
that for that movie yes for 40 million dollars that's a major hit if it meets 150 that's you know that's
i think it's been huge winston's picking like 300 i think he's out of his mind um so 300 for clayfax
yeah yeah batman shows up yeah no um supergirl actually think is the one where we're completely
disagreement okay because superman could barely get the 550 600 supergirl and get nowhere near that
um yeah it's gonna i think super girl's gonna get i think super goes gonna lose money and it's gonna be at 375
Because I think 200 is way too much for the movie.
Well, that's fair.
That's a whole separate conversation.
I agree with you.
But I think because James Gunn, and I know he's not directing the movie, but he is the EP.
People have more faith now in D.C.
They're going to give this thing a chance more than they would have.
And that's why I think it's going to out.
And if it's damn good, which a lot of the early screenings that have been, people have gone to see it,
have said that it's a damn good movie.
I think it's going to override all that stuff and it's going to do well.
I think it's
going to knock it out of much.
I think you got a couple.
Very possible.
Yeah.
Very possible.
So I think that's 375.
So my crazy Avengers,
everyone's calling me crazy.
And I think that everybody's right to call me crazy.
Okay.
I'm sticking with it.
If it's bad,
if the movie's bad and everybody hates it,
then I'm going to be wrong.
Of course.
I said,
I said it's going to be the most profitable movie of all time.
And I think it's going to be $3.1 billion overall.
Wow.
3.1.
Yeah.
Okay.
Which is a lunatic prediction.
And I get it.
Everybody, there's not one.
Sometimes I'll comment back or someone write something about them, but like, oh, yeah, well, I'll go, you're right.
Yeah.
You're right.
Yeah.
Because, but the thing is, Avatar, the first Avatar, after re-releases and everything, it was like 2.9, right?
The, and this is, I don't know where Winston got his number on this one.
Winston said, because we were talking about Endgame, Endgame made 2.7.
Yeah, 2.7 billion.
2.
And he's like, that's after like many re-releases.
They had one re-release.
And it made like $40 million on the re-release.
Yeah.
Something like that.
Yeah.
So that had nothing to do it.
So if this movie is good and people actually...
If it's good.
If it's good.
And the event, it's going to be an event movie.
It's the biggest event movie of the year.
I also told Chris Carr and Winston, they're lunatics that they would rather go see Supergirl in this movie.
I said they're lunatics.
I'm sorry?
They said they'd rather go see Supergirl than Doomson.
then doomsday.
I said, I said, I don't believe you.
I said, if I gave you a choice to go to see either one, what would you see?
And they both said, I said, I said, I think you're out of your mind.
The both of them.
I respectfully disagree.
I can't, I don't, I just don't agree.
It's not my number one most anticipated movie of the year.
Okay.
But I think it'll be the biggest movie of the year.
I have, I agree with you.
I've got Odyssey at number one.
And then I got Dune.
at number two.
Yeah.
And then I got Avengers.
Now, I'm ranking box office.
I'm going to, Avengers is going to be the clear winner with Odyssey at number two and
then doing a number three.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
That sounds about right.
Yeah.
But to me, I see people in the chat are like $1.8 billion.
You're insane.
You're insane.
If this movie is good, people are going to want to see this over and over and over again.
A shitty avatar movie got $1.4 billion.
A really great sequel from.
Zootopia got 1.8.
And that's animation.
You start to, you go doomsday.
That's going to, if it's a great movie, people are going to go in droves to see it.
Plus, it's December.
You know, everyone's out for the Christmas holiday.
People are going to go over and over and over again.
The market is insane.
Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun to see.
If it's good, again.
If it's good, if it is just one of these movies, you're like, oh, my God, that is
atrocious.
Yeah, yeah.
No hard to it.
It's clearly just nostalgia beating.
Look at that person.
That's it.
nothing to it. I mean, it'll do, it's going to do well, but it's not going to have
legs. But if there's some, there's really cool moments. And you'll also get a better,
uh, idea once Spider-Man comes out. Right. Right. When Spider-Man comes out and they give you
that little tease at the end of Spider-Man, you're going to go, ooh, okay, that's going to start
to get people hyped up. Or, you know, Spider-Man, Spider-Man, I think is going to make like 1.3.
Maybe, maybe, maybe you don't think so? I think more. Oh, sure. Maybe even more. I think
if it's good. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, maybe even more.
Right. And so that's going to carry some goodwill into December, depending on how they put it out there. But like, you're getting all of the X-Men from, you know, the old school days in what is going to be their swan song.
Right. Look at Wolverine did when he was in Deadpool Wolverine and what he brought there. You're going to have Magneto. You're going to have everybody in there. You're going to have Captain America back. You're going to have Tony back, you know, in a certain aspect.
like you're going to have these people going to have everybody back thor's back in and not goofy thor right
people are going to go all right i'll check it out and if it's awesome the people who have been like
ugh i'm depressed of what marvel's been giving me lately they're going to go back and go oh that's what
i was waiting for i'm going to go back again so yes do i think it is the most lunatic box office call
i've ever made 100 but i want people i'm going to do i'm going to grab a pole throw it in the ground
and put the Game of Thrones music on if it hits 3.1 and whoever wants to come join me
and say, you're right, you're right, that's fine. But I will not be doing the same of it,
does it? I'll be running away. Yeah.
Good question, no, too, is that Luke asks, like, how does, like, how does Dune releasing
at the same time affect the number? I actually think it helps the number. And I'll tell you why
I think it helps them. Okay. It doesn't have I'm at.
for three weeks.
Right, right.
So what happens when it does?
Yeah.
And what happens when it's, if it's good and it does?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, if it's good and it does,
and then it's like, oh, three weeks later,
hey, you know what?
Did you miss your chance to see it in an imax?
No, you didn't.
Here it is.
You can watch it, you can watch an imax now.
You loved it the first time.
Now come watch it in climax.
I think another reason this is going to do well is because it sets us up for Secret Wars
and anything else that's coming.
And so people will want to go out of,
curiosity and if it's good, they're going to really want to go over and over again to get all the
details, get all the Easter eggs, get all the references. I think that's all going to be part of
this doomsday. I don't think we're ever going to see a movie. I don't think we're to this date
when that movie comes out. I don't think we'll ever see or experience a movie quite like it like
we will with Doomsday. There's just so much involved in it. And I think that's why Fagie's been
all set every day. Because he knows. So many questions. There's so many questions. There's so many questions.
Um, they got to get it right.
Yeah, but this is one of those ones where it's like, I, I, there's no world where I'm going to be like, if someone, if someone pointed a finger and said, that's the crazy lunatic that said it's going to make 3.1.
There's no world where I'm going to go, oh, yeah, well, here's why it is.
I'm like, yeah, I'm out of my fucking mind.
But if it hits and look, the thing is, even if it hits 2.7, I'll look okay.
Yeah.
And I think it won't be like, oh, you said 3.1.
I did.
But it got close.
Now.
If it hits 1.6, 1.7, I'll just say, just kidding.
You can start writing Marvel's epitaph.
I know.
If it hits 1.6, 1.7.
I mean, it'll just break even if it does that.
That's not what you want.
That's not what you want.
Yeah, not if you, look, they were shooting Doomsday and Secret Wars at the same time for that kind of money.
Then I'd be like, no, I don't make a $20 back.
But they're not.
So now, as far as the other box office goes, you look at the remainder of what?
what we had here.
Let me go back to
previous thing.
So Wuthering Heights, I mean, what was the budget on that one?
80 million.
80 was 80.
Okay.
So it's already made its production budget back.
Yeah.
Or not production.
Oh, 80, you said.
Okay.
So it made it production.
So now it's the marketing.
So it's still, I don't know.
See, I don't know how that movie does in week two, though.
Yeah, I don't.
That's what I'm kind of looking at too, Christian,
because 82 million.
out of the gate. It's domestically is underperforming because the people are predicting 50 million
domestically. I think it only came in like 38 or something. But it really overperformed overseas.
So the question becomes, is this a film that is buoyed by overseas numbers in week two and three
to keep it kind of in a good place? And we just saw Housemaid have a lot of legs with Sidney Sweeney and
Amanda Seafried. So is this kind of a same situation where there is a strong female
audience for this and let's not be
a gay audience for this to go
and see it and will they go over and over
again to see this movie. We'll see.
I don't think it is a go again
over and over type of movie.
Yeah, okay. Again, I haven't seen it so I couldn't
say. First of all, both the characters are
assholes. They are in the book.
They are. Yeah, they're assholes.
And I didn't mind the movie. I saw a lot of people he really hated it.
I didn't mind the movie. I just
but it's, I didn't like them.
It's a toxic relationship.
It's kind of the point of it.
Just like, you know, what you want is what you want and whoever's in the way,
get out of the way.
And you go because of their chemistry.
But this isn't a movie that you're like, oh, man, that's a ride.
I want to go on again next weekend.
It's like, I'm good.
And it was, you know, and they were really good together, the two of them.
Great chemistry.
And the girl from Task was really good in it, too.
The Lizzie from Tas.
Oh, yes.
She's in it.
Oh, that's great.
She's in it, too.
She was really good.
But it's, you know, it's, it's, it's,
Yeah, it's not one of those movies that you go and you see again and again and again.
Now, I don't know. I don't think it is.
I think the drop-off is going to be significant next week, so I don't know how that does.
Now, the other one I did not see that I'm going to wait to see probably for a reaction is goat.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
What was the budget on that one?
The Steph Curry one.
Yeah, 47 million on that is what that's done world won.
It's got, it's animation.
It's got to be more than that, right?
Let me see.
Goat was 80 to 90 million.
million is what the budget is.
It's another one that's going to be a loss, I think.
I think that, well, maybe not on that one.
And I'll explain that in a second.
Okay.
Well, we'll stick with that.
Because the difference between Wuthering Heights and Goat is that there'll be some
other movies that people that, if they decided they want to go to the movies this week,
that maybe they were going to see Wuthering Heights last week, that they want to take
their significant other or somebody to go see, they could probably see something else together
and be like, oh, let's watch this instead.
I have said this many times over.
I don't find a lot of options for my kid to see my little one to go to the theater.
It's very hard for us to go and check out movies on the side of screening.
But my wife is going to take her to go see Goat because it's the only thing for kids to see right now.
It's the only thing.
And during the break right now, so the drop might not be that bad for Goat because a lot of kids are on break right now.
Yeah.
So I think that with the break, I think that maybe it sees a less.
of a drop off.
All right.
And we'll see what happens.
I want to have a conversation with you about crime 101, man.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, this, this, the budget was 90 million for that movie.
And right now it's 27 million.
But this is not going to make money.
This is going to, this is going to flop.
Yeah.
And so, but the reviews have been really good for the film for the most part.
Yeah.
And then people are like, God, it's great to see these kinds of movies in the,
theaters again, well, enjoy them while you can. Because I think we're going to, as has already been
the evidence last few years, we're seeing less and less of these kinds of movies in the theaters.
In the theaters. Because people aren't going to see these. They're not as drawn to these to go see them.
And I also have a question about whether this proves once and for all that once a lot of these
actors step out of the Marvel universe, they can't perform. They can't put butts in seats in their
movies that they're leading. They can't quite do it.
R.D.J. outside of Sherlock
and Marvel rarely gets a hit.
It's this type of movie, though, too.
But he's the lead.
This type of movie, this Crime 101,
yeah. Look, compare it to
what's the one that Ben Affleck and
the drop? The drop?
The town? No, the one that they just did.
It was called the drop, right? Oh, the rip.
The rip. The rip. The rip. The drop's the one with Tom Hardy.
The rip. The rip is
very comparable.
to this.
That was a straight to Netflix movie.
Yeah.
With two major stars.
Yep.
This has major stars.
And it is the kind of time in the same way that romantic comedies have gone the way of streaming.
Mostly.
Yeah.
Two big over the top comedies minus naked gun, which did okay.
Yes.
And scary movies coming out.
Those kind of movies, if they are made in general, they go to.
are streaming. Yep. The audience is starting to get used to that. So when you have these other types
of movies, look, Valentine's Day, Wuthering Heights makes sense. Put it in the theater. Sure.
What are we doing this week and we're going to see. Kids movie, go animation, taking my kid to see it.
Let's go. Makes sense all day long. Horror movies. They deliver it. Low budget. Makes sense. Action movies now
are starting to go that streaming route. Yeah. Unless you get the, you know, the one that
I'm not saying all of them, but a lot of them.
Like, Jason Statham can still do it.
Right?
He's still, it's Statham.
He's one of those few guys, by the way, that still, and we don't use him enough as an example.
Yeah.
When we say that the movie star doesn't sell the ticket anymore, right?
Right.
Right.
Because it's usually the IP that sells it.
Yeah.
He's an exception.
Yeah.
Not that his movies make gangbusters huge, but they make money for the budget that they are normally.
but you normally go like the beekeeper, the working man,
the thing, who cares?
It's a Jason Statham movie.
It's going to be the same thing again again guy who used to be a kick ass,
but now he's doing some other kind of job,
and then he has to be the real good guy and kill everybody,
and then you want to see him do it.
And you're like, yay.
And so that he's the one guy that like, oh, the new Jason Statham movie is coming out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He just did the new one.
I didn't see that one.
Did it do anything?
Shelter.
Shelter.
It didn't do that well because it was a 50 million dollar budget,
which is a little more than this movie should be costing.
Yeah, right.
But it only made 35.
Okay.
And they dropped it in January.
Yeah, you got to be careful.
You got to, like, he's almost like, he's a Blumhouse movie.
A state the movie is a Blumhouse movie.
You know, you got to give it the right.
Give him what he wants.
Give it.
Don't go over the top with it because like he can deliver.
He's one of the rare few that can still do it.
And he's not able to do it forever.
Yeah.
But the action movies, crime 101.
one with Hallie Band with Chris Hemsworth also.
Yeah, Hemsworth was the lead.
Right. It's that shows you like,
it's not the new Hemsworth movie. It's not the new
Kelly Berry movie. It's like, what are they in?
Oh, cool. It sounds like something that I'm excited
to watch on Amazon when it drops. And that's
what people are going to do. People are going to watch this on Amazon.
I just, I don't think Hemsworth is a
standard movie star. I think he's a movie star in
the realm of Marvel.
But outside the realm of Marvel,
I don't think people go to see his movies. I don't think he has
that clout. And I think this is
is a fascinating. Same thing, Chris Evans, right?
Yeah. So it's just fascinating how many of these people
can't lead movies anymore
in terms of outside the Marvel universe in terms of profit.
And so it's an interesting situation.
Yeah, you're right. State them is the exception.
The Rock used to be the exception, but not anymore.
But he did the cardinal mistake of what you just said just before.
The Rock's like, oh, give me $400 million.
Yeah, right. Exactly. What are you doing?
100%.
What are you doing? Like, when he was doing him, he was doing those smaller movies,
like the ones that when he first, like, he should have gone back
and doing stuff like that. And now I wonder,
what his psyche is like because, you know, he did smash your machine.
I thought he was great in the movie.
I thought he was great.
And I don't know if he's going to go that route anymore of the drama.
You know he was selling himself as that's what he was going to do.
But that movie didn't do very well at all.
And he didn't get the Oscar thing.
Go ahead.
Yeah, I'll tell you another one that we should consider too with Jason Statham is
Gerard Butler.
He has carved out a nice little niche for himself.
Sure.
Doing these movies come into low budget and they make money.
He's just in so many of them that it's like, you're not wrong,
that the new Girard Butler movie is coming out
and it's like, what is it? I don't know. Same thing.
He's this time he's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the same type of thing.
But like, Greenland. Yeah, right. It could, you're, you're not wrong. It could,
he could be good. It could be completely dog shit. Like, you just don't know. Um, but yes, him,
Butler and Statham have, have carved that out. But there's only so long they'll be able to do that.
But, but, you know, I'd be okay, never seeing a draw a Butler movie in the theater
ever again. If I said, but, but you're right, people are seeing movies, seeing them and, seeing them
and they'd still do decent for what they,
what they cost.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, but these big Amazon movies,
these huge ones that they need
with the stars and the former stars
or who were once the big A-list stars.
Yeah.
It just doesn't, it doesn't transfer all the time.
This film, Crime 101,
in the early 2000s, would have made $100, $150 million.
Right, right, easy.
Nowadays, people go like,
let's wait a few weeks.
It's not going to be nominated for an Oscar.
It's not water cooler.
type of movie so I can just wait a few weeks
it'll be out on on stream like
Song Sung Blue is not on Peacock
and it came out what like a month and a half
of you know yeah it's a good point though too
but you look at there's there are rare exceptions
and people still don't really get it but when you have a year
like Warner Brothers did
one battle after another lost
them money and it hasn't been a story
about it yet but it did
it lost the money but that was not
their intention their intention
they gambled and their intention
and paid off.
PTA will most likely win best director.
Right, probably, yeah.
I still give the odds on favor for winning best pitcher.
I still think that, you know, you've got so many different things.
People are winning awards left and right for that movie.
It's getting the nods that it wanted to.
It's bringing a lot of notoriety to the studio for having an Oscar.
So it had a hell of a year with all the money that the movies made,
with everything that it made.
Plus, you know, the success of sinners
and look, sinners could be the one
that wins up winning a frickin' Oscar, too.
And either way, they put the gambols
and all that stuff.
They had weapons that made money.
They had Minecraft.
They made all this money
that they made from the commercial stuff too.
Yeah.
Plus, then you add,
and they had, to me, regardless of box office,
because I don't know who won the box office last year,
I think Disney still did.
I think Disney still did, yeah.
Because they had almost.
like $4 billion just with Avatar and Zutopia.
Yeah.
So, but Warner Brothers won the year.
Yes, I would say so.
Yeah.
Yeah, because Disney wins almost every year recently,
so it's not a big deal if they did more money.
It's who really won the year or their brand or whatever?
It's like, Warner Brothers.
I would even argue that DC won the year last year with James Gunn's Superman,
kind of revitalizing the brand.
and Creature Commandos and, you know, the high, so you can say, yeah, did it make the most money of the year?
No.
Did Marvel have anything?
Oh, yeah, Marvel had two things.
Marvel, 2000, you would say, yeah, Marvel.
I liked those movies better than Superman, but, but I do, but I do think overall for what they did for the brand.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just like Warner.
And they did better.
And they did better.
And that movie did better than Thunderbolts in Fantastic Four.
Yes.
Was it was supposed to be like their big kind of redeeming quality for that property and it underperformed.
That was a $800 million movie in their minds
and it didn't make it.
No, it wasn't.
And it wasn't. I really liked that movie.
I do.
I went back and I watched both of them again.
And initially I had Fantastic Four over Thunderolds,
but I've changed my tune on it.
I think Thunderbolts is the better movie.
But I would go out of the three of those movies.
I'd go Thunderbolts, Fantastic Four Superman out of three.
As far as my personal enjoyment.
But as far as, as far as success,
it's Superman Fantastic for Thunderbolts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
monetarily.
Yeah.
So anyway, that's just a lot of box office talking other things.
What do you guys think?
Put your thoughts in there.
Let us know we want to hear what you think.
All right.
We were going to call an audible.
Okay.
So we know that the Mandalorian spot on,
was in a complete letdown.
Yes.
Well, they're going to release Mandalorian.
and Grogo trailer.
Oh, tomorrow.
Tomorrow.
Apparently there's a little clip.
So Luke, upload the clip.
You and I will watch this little clip in the malls.
Okay, let's do it.
Hey.
Okay.
I mean, I'm not going to tell you that's not consistent.
That's not consistent with things that happen in the screen.
But here's my issue with that.
Here's the issue with what I see.
Go ahead.
It is more consistent with the tone of the show.
Yes.
Then that's stupid-ass beer commercial.
If that's the tone of the movie, you're in big trouble.
It isn't.
So you don't have to worry about that.
There's going to be something in there.
The problem I have with, how long are we going to keep doing baby Yoda?
Isn't he growing up?
Yeah, yeah.
He's still messing with the buttons and eating shit.
After three seasons, he's still eating shit and like, don't mess with the buttons.
It's cute.
We get it.
Let's go.
Wrap it up.
Even the group was playing video games by the second.
Yeah.
Arties of the Galaxy.
So, yeah.
Yeah, it's getting a little.
I agree.
It's getting a little like,
and someone said it, I think,
in the thing, yeah, Calvin Patel, TV, movie vibes.
Totally.
Totally.
A hundred percent.
100%.
And so, and the question is, was this,
was this the plan to release the trailer?
You know.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
This quickly.
Yeah.
Or was it because?
Because, like, oh, my God, they're really calling for it.
And if, and if this was the plan, bad plan.
Why did you spend $8 million to do a beer commercial?
Yeah.
It's like, why, or do what we all thought you were going to do.
Like, when Luke sent me that thing, did you see that thing?
I was like, yeah, I was like, yeah, okay, but now I'm going over to the,
now I'm going to go to the YouTube channel, I'll watch the real trailer.
And there's no real trailer.
If they would have done that little stink-ass stupid Super Bowl thing and you go, oh, that's
cute because it's a Super Bowl.
Now go watch the trailer.
Great points.
Nobody bitches about the Super Bowl thing because it's part of the,
because then it's in tandem with the Super Bowl thing and it makes sense.
Yep.
But when you go in, it's like nothing, there's nothing?
Like everybody who's pissed on this day.
You haven't shown anything yet.
Oh, we'll show it in two weeks.
Yeah.
And let's show Baby Yoda fiddling with stuff again.
It's like, I showed you, there was a leaked trailer from Star Wars Celebration.
That looked great.
Yeah.
It's got, it's got, um,
You know,
Mandelurian kicking ass in the way that you want to see him.
It's got Grogu's swimming.
Not fiddling with shit.
He's swimming.
And they're like,
okay,
let's see him do that.
Let's see that stuff.
And the tone is darker.
Like it starts off with the Imperials and there.
And it looks like something right out.
Empire strikes back.
You know, granted it looks to take a television version of it.
But it looks like they're doing it.
And then boom,
in comes the Mandalorian.
And he's just taking fools out left and right.
You're like, yes, show that.
Right.
If that's what they show tomorrow,
it's like,
what do you do?
showing. Show that already.
Show what your movie is. They have no clue what they're doing
with this. I think they, yeah,
I think they know they've got, you know,
a TV movie type of energy
to this movie and they're trying to roll
it out and play this like tease game,
but it's not working. A majority
of the fans clearly are rebelling
against what they've been releasing.
And you're trying to get casuals into theater.
I get that. But how many of those casuals actually
watch Mandeloran and Grogan? To even
care about these characters, that's
the truth. So you can't play both sides.
You can't play like, oh, you know, we're in the bubble, Star Wars fans.
You know, but then, and then ignore how many Star Wars fans are not liking this stuff
because you claim that they're playing to the casuals when the casuals haven't even watched
Mandeloren and Grove.
So whatever the numbers might be of Mandela, they're not reflective of how many people,
how many of the normal people who aren't like obsessed with this franchise have watched that show.
So I think this is going to be really interesting to see what the box office is.
And I agree with you.
I wonder if this is a, this feels like a panic.
move. They gave us crap about it. We put our, we put our PR people out there to explain what we
were trying to do. You never explained the joke that just tells you the joke is bad. And then boom,
all of a sudden a new trailer here two weeks later. Yeah, they're like, they keep asking for it.
Right. Why don't you just give it when you had the biggest audience in the world watch?
Exactly. And were you doing it now two weeks later? That's a, that's a big. Right. If you want to
get the normals on board, you do it during the Super Bowl. 100%. You don't do it afterwards.
No, 100%. And then it's also one of those things where you're like, it just,
I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I've said this. People say, they're living in a world where they still think this is 2015 and the excitement is the same for Star Wars. It's Star Wars. You have lost that. You've lost that. You can get it back. You can get it back. Like people are like, oh, it's dead. It's not dead. If they're still making movies and there's still people who are going to buy tickets and get excited for it, it's not dead. Dead is when nobody gives you shit at all. Nobody. It's okay if you don't give her shit.
but when nobody cares that's when you know like star trek hit a place i thought it was dead but that
it was on life support star trek's not dead there are movies that are not dead you can just look i always
use the example of karate kid as cobra kov no one thought they should do a karate kid series because
you're like that franchise is day you can't do that anymore right right right right and then they're like
well no if you put the right love and respect behind them and show the audience that you put the like
the right love and respect to it the audience will respond yeah
Star Wars has a lot of life left in it.
It's got a lot.
It's just, right now, they just don't have the right doctors working on.
Yeah, everybody said Predator was dead, right?
And then Prey comes out, revitalizes the franchise.
Dan Tractenberg takes it for a ride.
Yeah.
Nothing is ever really dead if you get the right people behind it.
Oh, 100%.
You can, and look, and look, and look, for the super naysayers,
even if you're a super naysayer and you say Star Wars is dead,
would you feel the same way if they've sold it to,
someone else.
Yeah.
Sold it to someone else that you didn't, because if you hate Disney,
you hate what Disney's done, Disney Star Wars,
and they sold it to somebody else.
Would you still say, why are they buying it?
Star Wars is dead. You know, you'd be like, no, great,
so-and-so got it. Maybe now they got a shot. So it's not dead.
Right.
It just, this was, and as I said, this is still,
I still think this movie is going to make the money that it needs to make.
Going back to our box office conversation that we had earlier.
This is, you know, when you, like,
Supergirl cost $200 million to me.
Yes.
On a property, I don't care how good the story is.
On a property and a character, Superman didn't do that well.
Supergirl at $200 million, if that is indeed the budget,
Gun negates that.
But if it is, that is a major, major risk.
Yeah.
Star Wars at 140 or 150?
What was this?
I think the Mandalorian Grogu budget comes.
It's like 140 or 17 or something.
147, right? Is that what it is?
I think it is. Yeah. I'm looking up right now.
So let's say what it is.
If Star Wars Mandalorian Grogu is 147, and you were going to make that a TV show, and instead, you turn that into a movie, that is a good gamble.
Yeah.
The IP alone, you're like that, John.
I'm sorry, 166.4 million, but they get a $21.75 million tax credit from gambling.
California, which is why people are saying like $1.45. Well, it's like $140, $1.45. Do this movie.
It's a risk you take. I don't, it just further head scratcher, why you would market it so poorly,
when you, when all you need to really make is freaking, you know, $400 million to break even.
Right. Right. Um, you make $500. You got up to yourself a profit. Now, again,
naysayers are going to go, Star Wars making $500 million. That's crazy. It's not the goal of this movie.
it's not the goal.
But it will hit it because I think that the casual fan will see Grogu and go see it.
Now, whether it's good or not, I don't know.
I'm getting, I'm more and more skeptical of how good this movie is going to be.
But we're also not putting the Fafro aspect in it.
Yeah, that was pretty damn good.
It can be.
He also did Cowboys and Aliens, which wasn't that damn good.
Yeah.
It depends.
Yeah.
Luke thinks Amanda will make $400 million.
Solo made 393, sermon at the same.
The Solo's considered a failure for making $3.99.
Well, yes, because I think that movie cost,
definitely close to, had to have close to $200, right?
What was, I'm going to guess Solo's budget was 205,
especially after all the, no, no, that movie, right.
That, let me see, solo.
Never mind.
Yeah, hold on.
Solo movie budget, what was it?
365.
Right.
And that's because of the reshoots.
Yeah, the reshoots.
Exactly.
Right.
So that movie lost an insane amount of money.
An insane amount of money.
And people still want a second one.
John Hoey and three other people.
I love John.
I love John.
I love John.
I love John Hoey.
But no, no one wants that movie.
So, but, but I still think, Luke, the difference is what Mandolorean and Grogu has going
for as opposed to Solo.
Yeah.
Solo is coming up and going up against Infinity War 3.
days three weeks later.
Mistake.
Right.
Solo had someone in that role that was not Han Solo or even trying to do a version of what he did.
Mistake.
Solo had a lot of reshoots other things.
Mistake.
Coming out in May.
Like, as I said, mistake.
A lot of mistakes and a lot of things, there wasn't a lot of excitement behind it at all.
Yeah.
Not that man Lauren and Grogo has excitement about it.
Right.
Coming out in May.
hasn't been a Star Wars movie in a long time.
Grogu is going to sell tickets.
Grogu is going to be the one.
Sure.
Grogo is going to sell the tickets because in the same way that I mentioned before,
there's not a lot for kids to check out.
Kids are going to want to see Groke.
Yeah.
So it will be a miracle if it gets to 400?
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For a Star Wars movie in May, I mean, it's going to open it.
Like, you know, I think probably, I think it's going to close out.
I think he says 400.
I'm going to say it closes out at 465.
Oh, okay.
That's where I'm going to say it closes out.
That seems fair.
What about you?
I think 400 is overperforming for that movie.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
I just don't see the buzz, man.
Okay.
And maybe some of you all in the chat are right that like, you know,
the normal people are like excited for this thing.
I just don't see it anywhere.
And I have a good mix of normal friends for Virginia.
and my friends here in L.A. or in
San Diego in L.A.
So, and in New York with Christian.
So I, but I don't see hype anywhere for this movie from any of them.
And on any of the message boards.
And so,
they got to release a cool trailer tomorrow.
Yeah, this thing is badass tomorrow.
I think that could change.
It's got to be.
I saw some kid.
God bless him.
God bless him.
It seems like a nice,
a nice fella, as they say.
This kid's predicted.
But,
Lord and Groku makes two billion.
$2 billion.
That's crazy than my 3.1 on Avengers.
I say, what?
I will never go to Vegas for you, kiddo.
I'll never go to Vegas for you.
$2 million.
I don't care if it's the next citizen,
Kane. The thing ain't making $2 million.
Was it Seoul?
No.
Saul is in here.
Saul is in here championing Mandelaarine and Groger if he thinks it's
going to make a shit ton of money.
Bro, I hate to break this.
I don't know if you just saw this, Christian,
but it just came over a number of sites.
Robert DeValle has passed away.
Oh, no.
95 years old.
What a life.
Yeah, it's being carried by a number of sites here.
Let me see.
Reputable sites.
ATE even tweeted it out.
The rap did an article on it as well.
Not seen anything yet, but that's not to say that it's not real.
I'm just not seeing anything yet.
I can send you in the private chat if you want.
Yes, send me that.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's horrible.
I mean, again, 95 years old.
Right.
A good life.
A long life.
Great life.
Great career.
Yeah.
You know, one of, that's a legend.
He's a legend.
Yeah.
So many great.
Come on.
Come on.
So, yeah, you know, when, when 90, when you hear 95, you go, it's sad.
Yeah.
I'm glad he made it to 95.
Well done.
100%.
Yeah.
And I hope, and I hope he was surrounded by loved ones and everything too.
I mean, yeah, he's a legend.
So we'll get a little bit more into,
maybe tomorrow on the show as well, too.
But that's, yeah, he's, he's great.
Robert Duval was, absolutely, it was the man.
Love Duval.
Love Duval. It was the man.
Anyway, so we'll discuss more about the great Robert Duval in,
maybe, I don't know, if anybody wants to bring it up later on in the questions
or anything in general, we'll certainly talk about the legend that was Robert DeBal.
and we'll get into some more of his stuff, but it's gone way too soon at 95 years old.
That's true.
No, no, I mean that, though.
He is gone way too soon.
You know why?
Why?
Because I think that when you have someone of that stature and someone, like, if he died at 150 years old,
gone too soon, because that you don't have that kind of, you don't have that kind of actor anymore.
No.
You don't have that kind of.
You see that he was talking.
It's fair point.
I don't remember who he was talking to,
but he was talking to someone about how many takes they did.
Yes.
And no one.
I can't remember who was.
But he was going over and was it, what was he talking to?
I can't remember.
I don't remember who he was talking to.
He was talking to somebody.
He was just talking about like his experience and listening to him.
And you're like, oh, man, what a, just, just the best.
So, anyway, Robert DeValle.
And he will, he will always haunt Roca in the title loss to the Patriot.
Robert DeVall.
And your winners.
Oh, my God, that guy.
That was so good.
All right.
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All right, John, at 34, getting into this thing.
Come on, y'all.
I think we can do it.
Can we get to 100 by the time we hit the end of this show?
I think it is possible.
Come on. Let us get a chance.
All right. Let's see.
Relaxed dick and balls.
Dicken balls says anyone who says 90 years ago has gone too soon as Lenny,
relax dick and balls. What I'm saying is,
Dixon balls.
Relax dicks and balls.
What I'm saying again, gone too soon to me is just like a legend of that status.
You're never really going to accept it.
But yes, he'll long life and he's good.
Relax dick and balls. Don't get all worked up for no reason, dick and balls.
No reason.
You're okay, Dick and Balls.
Okay.
Listen, it's a president.
It's a holiday, right?
Yeah.
So, start sending it, send in all your questions.
Let's talk about, that's right.
That's right.
Let's talk about everything you guys want to talk about.
Send in your questions.
You guys are home.
Let's have fun.
Come on.
And Dick and Bulls.
Ask some other questions that you want.
Besides, besides calling me out for saying the guy's 95 until,
what else you got, Dick and Bowles?
Dixon balls, Dixon balls and Dixon.
Balls and Dixon.
Balls and Dixon.
Dixon?
Dixon.
Dixon.
Nice job Dixon Pals.
Mike Joyce and 7th, the Realm
Needs Good Men.
Did you watch it last night?
Cried.
Yeah, so good.
Oh, ride.
So good.
That was so good.
That was red wedding crying.
Like, I was like red wedding crying.
I really was.
Like, I was so sad, dude.
It was like Mickey and Rocky.
It was like Mickey and Rocky 3.
He really was.
Definitely had that kind of,
kind of, that vibe.
It had that vibe.
For sure.
His face, everything he went through and then to get there.
It was great.
But you'll see what I'm talking about, though, when you watched, you haven't seen six yet?
No, I haven't seen six yet.
No.
You're going to say, they should have just tacked it on to five.
Yeah, yeah.
Six should have been like one last.
That's it.
So that to me is the, but it's, I like six, but it's just compared to four and five.
It's like you just connect the end of six to five and it's one big episode for sure.
Um, okay.
Next one.
Nixon, what is Dixon balls?
Dixon balls still said that I think, uh,
Conto's showed is 95.
You're not getting it, Dick and balls.
You're not getting what I'm saying Dixon balls and balls and Dixon.
What I'm saying is again,
the man had a spirit that we don't get today.
So when he goes away,
it's gone too soon.
Yes, Dixon balls and balls and Dixon.
That when you are 95,
that is a long life, you're old, you've done your time here, it's time to rest.
But balls and dixon, balls and balls and dixon, balls and balls and balls.
What I'm saying is the actual theory of a person like this, balls and dixon, Dixon balls and balls and balls, is that you got to understand the essence of who this man was.
So relax, balls and Dixon.
It's got too soon, Christopher.
He's gone too soon, Christopher.
He's gone too soon, Christopher.
All right.
Here we go. Next one. Mr. ND fanatic. Happy Monday to you both to you as well.
Roka. Have you and Steve ever considered whatever happened to Baby Jane or the 1957 version of Bad Seed?
Baby Jane, I think you guys would kill it breaking it down. Also, sorry if you get to 200 super chats and only lose to 201.
Happens all the time. Happens all the time. Yeah, I imagine we should do it because I just recently saw that feud Ryan Murphy series with Betty, with,
Matt Money Smith here talking about Galpin Honda.
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Customers get a $250 gas card.
In addition with the purchase of any new or pre-owned Honda,
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They want to make sure you know they appreciate you through the term of your ownership.
Check it all out at Galen.
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Jessica Lang and Susan Strander doing
Betty Davis and Joan Crawford. So I'm sure at some point we will
circle around to get back. We just dropped episode one
of a few good men for people who
want to try out the show. So thank you.
There you go. Perfect. Love that show.
All right. Next one. 34 of us
for. Come on guys. Let's go. Get to 100.
Go pal. Probably snowed
under all day at work but support. Oh yeah.
We got snow. Dude, I thought the snow was toast.
Welcome this morning. And it was like... Did you get?
Did you get snow? Yeah, not a lot, not
a lot, but enough that it was like, so
today was supposed to be in my gym day where I was going to go go gym
do and because I like to do Monday Tuesday take a break Wednesday Thursday
Friday so I don't have to do four days in a row but this I I woke up too late and then
I'm like okay I'll be okay and then there's snow I had to shovel the stupid snow out of the
driveway and the cars and everything too it wasn't it wasn't like two inches maybe
inch and a half if that but it's still enough that I had to clear the thing out of the way
and I'm like I'm just going to the office so um yeah and then I'm going to that screening
tonight, so. Right. I just realized I got invited to that screening as well tonight. Oh, did you? Okay.
I'm not a Glenn Powell person right now, man. I don't know if I want to go see it. I didn't like running, man.
I didn't even know who's in it. But, you know, I don't mind him. I've said this. I don't mind him.
I just don't think he's the movie star. Everybody thinks he is, but I don't mind him.
All right, let's see. Next one. I don't know this guy, John.
I think. I thought Dunk was a goner at the ass kicking. Yeah, I mean, I knew he wasn't a goner because he's the story.
you know, he's the star of the show, but, but, but he, yeah, he took a beat.
Yeah, he did. Yeah, it was, at some point I was like, what is going on here?
Like, how can he keep surviving all of this stuff?
I know, it was crazy. It was crazy.
Mike Joyce, most underrated movie president, got to go Michael Douglas, right?
Underrated.
Ooh.
No, the dude from Armageddon. He never gets any love, the dude from Armageddon.
I don't remember who he was.
Exactly. And he delivers an incredible.
speech to get people hyped up
for them going. Who was the president
in Armageddon? Exactly.
I don't know who you know who was.
That's good, I guess. Who's underrated?
I would still say,
I would still say Michael Douglas
and they don't talk about it enough. When you bring it, everybody brings
up Bill Pullman. Oh yeah,
or Harrison Ford. Right, right, right.
Armada, 8.T. I believe Sean Moroni is real.
People like Sean Moroni are definitely real. They're based
off real people, sure.
Christian, I'm pronounced.
Well, extraterrestrial life exists.
We found the building blocks for life and space,
but interstellar distances and physics prevents travel between worlds for me paradox.
Yeah, I mean, listen, there's a lot of the stuff that I talk about on DTE.
A lot of the things that, look, there's also a lot of rumors about what's supposed to happen this summer.
I don't agree with it that it's going to happen.
But apparently there's a speech that's supposed to be made about disclosure over the
over the summer.
But I find that to be unlikely.
But there's a lot of reports of people saying that's going to happen.
But we'll see.
We'll see what happens if anything.
2026 is supposed to be a big year with information,
but we shall see if anything at all.
Nathan Drake,
I tend to believe that aliens exist,
but it's probably at the bottom of my list to worry about
or to care about in life.
It's fun to speculate today.
Right?
Because I hear, let me ask you a question,
on because I understand your point tremendously when you say like you know those other things
at the moment is similar to what Nathan's saying here that you wish to put your brain around
with the things that are happening that are serious that are happening in in our country in other
countries yeah bad things good things whatever they might be then opposed to the as you say
the fun things to potentially think about yeah so let's say hypothetically that's
speech was real and the existence of it was real and the questioning of what you thought
was your actual existence of what was here and how we came to be and all that changed overnight.
Yeah.
That wouldn't be the most important thing that everyone would be hanging out?
That's what I'm saying.
I think right now we don't know.
Right now, if they present concrete evidence that is undeniable, then the equation completely
changes. Right. Because then it's like, well, who are we? How did we come to be? Right.
Is this, does this affect religion? Does this affect our government systems? And who has been in
contact with these aliens if there has been contact with these aliens? Yeah. And are they trying to
create, you know, an advantage for themselves over? It becomes madness at that point. Right.
For sure. Yeah. And I think that's one of the questions anyway. Theoretically,
what people say, one of the reasons I think the disclosure hasn't happened because they're afraid of what
the aftermath is, the stock markets with penalties of people who have been keeping things quiet,
like those types of things. There's a lot. But we'll see it. To me, it's not the thing to worry
about, but it's a thing that I, that for me, I think about quite often and have another
channel about it, because for me, if there are people who actually have information about it,
and there's more worldwide things of conversation that should be having about it, and there are
active people in the government looking into it, I think it's something that should be in the news as
as much as anything else.
There are things that they cover on the news that I feel are very important,
but they'll spend an hour on one topic on a show that's supposed to cover various topics.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you'll look, I understand.
I understand how important that this particular story is.
But all you're doing is covering a portion of the story,
of the new information that we have on the story.
Right.
And then you're bringing analysts to talk about that, to discuss that.
Then you're going to bring in somebody else to discuss something else about that.
What else is going on in the world?
I get it.
Your ratings.
Your ratings.
But what else is going on in the world?
This is one of those things that is going on in the world in Congress.
They're looking into it.
Give me a five-minute story.
Tell me.
So clip champ razor.
Paramount seems to have contempt for creative.
So I hope Netflix wins this one.
I think most people think that.
I hope that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. I am D. Blake finally got around to watching American gangster. Great underworld crime drama. How many times have you guys seen it? I consider the best in the genre. Wow.
I can't, well, I'm going to say it's not the best in the genre for me. Yeah. But what's also not fair is I've only seen it once.
Was it 2007? I think so. I'm going to tell you. I'm not Mans.
The only reason I'm going to tell you that I think it's 2007 is because I believe I was still at, um,
It was right before Ellis and I started reviewing on YouTube.
We're still reviewing on the other platform.
No, definitely don't do that.
Let's not call in that.
All right, Seattle, K.O.
Watch The Wiz live for Valentine's Day.
It was a lot of fun.
What's your favorite Broadway show?
Oh, man.
It's so funny.
I'll tell you what I saw on Off Broadway that I really liked.
Go ahead.
Was Heather's.
Oh, yeah.
It's not my favorite, but I saw it.
but I saw it off Broadway, really liked it.
Yeah, my dad used to take us to see stuff.
I remember I saw young,
young Frankenstein on Broadway when it was a long time.
It was really good, too.
My friend was a dancer in that one.
Okay.
So, beauty, beauty, beauty, beast, Lion King, for sure.
Those have I seen on Broadway.
Titanic when I was out.
It was good.
So, yeah, I don't know if I have a favorite as much.
is just a lot of good memories.
Mine's probably a company or
Into the Woods. Both Sondheim.
Oh, that's good.
People like Hamilton.
Yeah. Oh, yeah, I've never seen that one on
on stage. Corn Emperor. Spill the tequila
versus the filthy blurts.
Winston.
Okay. Fuck the world.
Spill the tequila versus the same.
What is filthy blurts? I don't know what filthy blurts.
I think that's, filthy bruges is his own show.
Is it their late night show?
Is it the one where they talk about sex?
Yeah, maybe.
Armada, Aight T,
should I ask Mance if he knows
Petty Barber on the
I feel like Perry would get pissed if I don't think she would have any idea
who that is.
Yeah, probably.
So do you know where that came from as far as why you even wanted to ask mans?
No.
So on the 220
Super Chat episode with Mike,
we started to ask,
I don't know how it came up,
but we started to man's doing,
I just saw the greatest movie.
It was called Step Wives 3.
with Penny Barber, man, do I want her to give me a haircut?
It's like, unbelievable.
You call, talk about a comeback.
It's so, God.
Oh, my God.
So, I mean, you can ask.
Yeah, to keep me out of it.
Yeah, that's a good job or any way there as well.
Just keep me out of it.
If you get him and talking about Penny Barber with,
I don't know who that is in the IMDB.
I can't talk about that.
Wait a minute.
What's happening right now?
And then he get mad at me.
So I don't know.
Someone's going to do it anyway.
Mike Joyce, crime 101 was solid.
Hemsworth was terrible, though.
Really?
Yeah.
That's too bad.
I think he's limited.
Really?
I didn't, I didn't see.
I do want to see it.
All right.
Michael D.
How much do you think Secret World?
will make if your prediction about doomsday box office comes true give us your very early
prediction l-l-l-z uh you know first of all that's a great that's one of the best freaking
avatars i've ever seen is shelley deval on top there in shining and then mike with his face against
the thing that's awesome i don't think i didn't notice that um i that's that to me is too soon
if it does come true though i don't know could you know look i'm still i'm still
sticking to my 3.1. I'm sticking to my 3.1. But if it makes, let's, let's say
hypothetically, let's say realistically, 2.6. But I'm sticking to 3.1. I'm just saying,
realistically, 2.6. If it hits 2.6, then I think 3 Bill for Secret Wars is,
is absolutely attainable. What if it's part one and part two? Like I would say,
ooh, that's true, right? You hold on the ball game. Well, then that would show that how smart
that decision is. Yeah. Yeah. That's what that would show.
Yeah, Johnny Petrieza. I think those who think Doomsday won't hit a billion are killing. Oh, yeah, Chris, Chris, thought it was going to be $950 million. I think she's, yeah, I think she's wrong. Now $3 billion, that's a big ask, but possible. I think that Chris has just been let down by a lot, like a lot of people have been about the previous. Oh, yeah. Marvel slate. And the way Marvel just hasn't been exciting since when, though. It's really what was like.
last time they were exciting. Endgame, I guess, was probably the last exciting time. Who directed
Enging? Yeah, the Russo. This is a, yeah, I'm looking at this, and I think the majority of, like,
the way they're going to market this, and I think rightfully so, they're going to market this to the
everyday casual viewer as a sequel to End Game. That's going to get the casuals in the theater.
If you don't, and people go out, this is another thing that people don't understand.
you know, you get people,
they're like,
why don't they believe in the things that they've done recently
and why are they buried people in the back?
Because you're asking the casual fan
who hasn't seen any of that shit.
Yeah.
To know it.
As opposed to if it's a direct sequel to Endgame.
Yeah.
And somebody who hasn't watched a movie,
Marvel movie, since Endgame,
sits down with a bucket of pop room and I don't have seen any of this shit.
Doesn't matter.
You see an endgame?
Yeah, so Endgame.
That's it.
That's all you need.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
That's how you're going to market it.
You can't market it.
But, you know, they did this whole thing and she-ho.
No, he gives you shit.
And it doesn't make sense.
Yeah.
And it's the same that I had this whole conversation with Winston on Friday where people are getting
so upset right away going, oh, they're replacing Sam Wilson.
Sam Wilson was Captain America and now, now Captain America is coming back and I'm replace
him.
Who said they were doing that?
In the, in the commercial, it says, Steve.
Rogers will return.
And at the end
of Thunderbolts is a
scene directed by who, John?
The Rousseau's.
The Rousseau's. Right.
Who have Captain America
setting up the other avengers.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly.
So it's like, just take it easy. Everybody just wants
to complain about shit right away. Not Winston.
I'm just saying other people I saw doing the same thing
yelling and screaming about like,
oh, it's like, be quiet.
Just watch it.
Yeah. All right. Evan's.
No. Mad Sinister McHale. I love the Game of Thrones reactions. Thank you.
I love when Ramsey pretends to be Theon's friend. Yeah, it was a crazy, crazy moment we've watched you that.
What movie made you cry the most? For me, it's Chronicle or me Earl and the dying girl.
Why did you cry during Chronicle? What?
I don't know. I don't remember I haven't seen it in it so long.
Michael D. Jordan. I know. You know the one that got me when I was a kid was a mask.
Not the mask. Mask.
Oh, when she couldn't wake him up.
It got me.
I remember my mom's showing me that movie.
I'm like, what are you doing?
How are you showing me this?
Why did you do this?
I remember exactly where I was.
I was sitting on my couch.
I was almost been like 12 years old.
It was lost it.
Anyway.
Oh, that's tough.
Yeah.
You've had, you probably had some ones that you had.
Transformers when Optimus Prime died?
I mean, that was.
That was big one.
As a kid, that was devastating.
That was pretty big.
I'll tell you, I'll never forget that when I saw that in the theater.
The kid that screamed out, Prime, no!
Never forget it.
It was great.
Love that movie.
Johnny Bacheza, according to chat, GPT, 330 to 380 million tickets.
Has to be sold for Doomstay to hit 3 billion.
Well, I'll tell you right now, I will pull my prediction off the table if it's not opening in China.
Oh, that's a good point.
If it's not opening in China, I'm taking it off the table.
Yeah. How many people, there are 8.142 billion people in the world right now.
Yeah. I mean, I feel like 3 billion is attainable. Or what, how many? 330 million is attainable.
Again, it's not, I didn't say 5 billion. I said 3.1, which would make it the highest grossing movie.
Eventually, listen. So the argument again will be, will there ever be a movie that will beat the first avatar?
And if people say no, then then it'll be never a movie that makes a movie that.
$3 billion. Yeah. And you very well might think that. I think that with ticket rising costs in the
same way that things seem unattainable to beat in 1980, yeah, are now attainable to beat because of
ticket costs, higher theater costs, all these different things. I think that, especially with the
IMAX three weeks later, I think it is attainable. Yeah. That's why I made the prediction.
Yeah. Yeah. John, 28 Vasco, Michael movie box office.
office predictions.
Dude, I think that has the potential to get 1.5 to $2 billion.
Wow, that high?
Yeah.
I mean, that would be the highest.
Michael Jackson is massive.
I know.
Massive.
I know.
What's your overall prediction for that?
1.5.
I'll say, I'm going to say 985.
Okay.
I think it gets close.
Erigo.
Episode 5 of Game of Thrones, Sir Duncan was awesome.
Really well.
sad that only one episode left of the season,
wish there were more episodes as I feel like it started to pick up.
Yeah, but they're going to be, go ahead, John, John, go ahead.
That's the smart move.
That's exactly where they want you, bro.
They want you in a place of like, I want more.
You always have to leave them wanting more.
So they've done their job.
If you're sad that there's only one episode left,
because that means you're going to be excited for the next season.
Yeah, and the rumors are because they're half an hour episodes
that they're going to put them out every year.
Yeah.
And they want to do like eight to like 15 seasons of this thing.
and they could with everything they have set up.
So yeah.
Dansky Derrarchan.
Hey, Christian, I emailed you about missing SCN live episodes
and we'll love to hear you from when you have the time.
Yeah, I saw that you made the playlist, right?
Is that what it is?
Like, I know there's a playlist.
I mean, so, and I appreciate it.
I guess my question is where, like,
I don't really showcase SCN live anymore.
So I'm not sure, like, as far as a playlist goes,
if it's just for me to look at, I appreciate it.
I don't really showcase that anymore.
Maybe you were suggesting it for patients.
Also, Dan, I think he's saying that they're missing.
And Dan, I tell you, they're missing because they're taking a lot of the content down that we all were a part of.
Oh, no, SCN Live.
SCEM live was on the Shmozo channel.
Oh, Shmoh.
Okay.
Okay.
Don't you make Collider.
No, no, no.
There are some that are just not available anymore.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, there were some that we had to clear space.
And I remember there were sometimes in.
Look, the idea of what SCN Live was in the beginning was great because it was actually the more comfortable, fun version of Collider Live.
Yeah, I had so much fun.
It was a very fun comedic show that I always wanted it to be.
The problem that happened with SCN Live was because we, like, I didn't have, Collider Live, we had a budget.
You know, we had, we had, we had, Mark Fernandez was paying for everybody.
And he said, okay, so this.
is what this person's rate is and you i had to do that but i had to rely on a freaking i had to make
sure that we hit uh you know stream labs we had that robot on and it would just disrupt the show
but that but it brought it but it but it was able to pay everybody it did and i i was paying like
four or five people a day on that show and you had to make over 1500 to 2 000 on the show just
to pay for everybody yeah yeah and it was like and it became and and and and and i
I remember the, I remember when I realized that I, and because of it was the progression of what this show,
it's only we came.
It's because I remember driving one day trying to listen to the show and you guys were talking about something great.
And in the middle of it, the robot popped in.
Yeah.
And it was like, you know, it was like 35, 40 bucks, whatever it was.
Right.
But it just disrupted the flow of the show.
It disrupted.
You forgot what you were talking about.
go back to it you can't clip it out it was like and then it made me go okay that's why i want to create the
big thing because i'm like oh i can just have conversations and then that just became this and so
yeah um yeah that and there were a lot of episodes that were just disrupted by the robot and just
didn't make it so there's a lot of missing episode this robot yeah justin bishop marvel really
shifted the tide when it comes to movie stars the characters are more famous than the stars now
yeah yeah i would say that yeah would you would you agree with that yeah i think i would i mean
Famous is relative, right?
So I think everybody's famous,
but they're not famous as,
they're not as successful outside the characters.
Yeah.
Okay, next one.
Arago, 4, 3rd, 5, 12.
Baz Luhrman is releasing an Elvis concert
in IMAX with unseen footage.
You think you will see it.
February 20th, 100%.
Yeah, it comes out this Friday.
Oh, are you going to check it out?
Oh, hell yeah.
I'm going on Friday. First episode, first showing.
Taking your lady?
No, she don't like Elvis.
Oh, okay.
Jimmy B. What up, guys?
Settle the long-held debate of mankind.
Are these hosts in fact not loyal or are they?
Go ahead, John.
Are they loyal?
Some of them, some of them are.
Depends, yeah, nothing's ever general, right?
Some hose can in fact be loyal and some hose cannot be loyal.
It all depends on the situation you have with each one of your hose.
That being said, Jimmy, I bet you have no hose.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
I think I'm more hoos than hose.
That's right.
Carlton Rutter.
London Calling, I was away this weekend in Cornwall, which is in the Southwest
UK, so no movies.
Listen to episode one of a few good men on C-Files on Journey.
It was great.
I don't know if you have a bigger Center Files fan than Carlton Rutter.
Well, I appreciate it.
It's very kind of, Carlton.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, and I love Cornwall.
So hope you had a good time.
The Archive History, Finstock, on last month,
reminded me in my old screen recording on the
Shows, no after hour show two things that don't mix.
Finstock and drunk are woke.
That was, yeah, that was, again, a very different time on the internet for sure, 100%.
Eric Henderson, Mr. I crappin shits here.
It's my 47th birthday today.
Hey.
I can't do shit.
We're coming from ankle.
Fugion's surgery on my right foot.
Oh, man, can't work.
Well, just enjoy the relaxation that chill out, watch a bunch of shit.
That's always a good thing.
The last time when I got sick was, I watched like five movies within like the course of like two days.
And I think that's when I texted you.
I was like,
when I was watching Amnet.
Yeah.
And I watched all that stuff.
And so just try to catch up on your entertainment when you're,
then you're out.
Mr. Andy Fanatic,
let Doug Bradley do the voice for Grogo.
Is he going to start talking?
I think so.
I think so?
He's got to be, right?
Yeah, he's got to.
But that's probably how the movie ends.
Grogu's first words, I bet.
So they're probably going to do
one more
if ever said he wants to do one more season
so they're probably going to do this show
this movie
and then
unless this movie bombs which I can't see
bombing
can see it disappointing
but only got a bomb
and then
that movie will then
spawn into season
four of
Mandalorian so and that will be the
and then you end it
got to end it
can push it
can't push it
can you save your girls
in this thing
And your safety girls in...
From what I know, she's not in it.
Wow.
Okay.
Surprising.
Unless, you know, you film something...
I haven't spoken to her in a couple weeks, but I doubt it.
Okay, let's see.
Scott Cross.
Leaked Mando trailer had me like, F, yeah, to now like, okay.
Do you think it's the worst marketing for Star Wars movie?
Even Solos seem better.
Yes.
It's the worst marketing for this reason.
They're just too dependent on the Star Wars brand.
They're too relying on the fact that they think everybody has watched this show.
They're too relying on the fact that they think this is the second season
when everybody's still super excited about Grogu.
And, yeah, Solo was marketed better.
They had a much better campaign.
But they have to release that trailer tomorrow, right?
The one that I showed to you.
I hope so.
I hope so.
They have.
Do you think that?
You think that they will show, if they show that trailer, because that trailer is decent.
Yeah, I think, you know what, that trailer is good.
Okay.
If they take that and put that out, you think that can get some excitement?
Because we're only, you know, we're still, it's still even March.
So they still have some time to get some hype on it.
Sure.
I think that would get people excited about it.
But you know our society nowadays, Christian, it's like, yeah, this is a big story.
two days later, I moved on to a million other things.
So, yeah, people will be hype for a couple days,
but will that hype sustain itself through the next couple of months?
Because, yes, you can say, oh, with the unrolling it this way,
but we're such an ADD society now that it's really hard to keep that hype going
up until the release of a film.
I really hope that tomorrow is a different conversation.
I hope tomorrow it's like, you know, I look at the trailer,
I'll react to it tomorrow and watch it.
I hope they're going to go, you know what?
Good.
Yeah.
You've had a few bunch of losses.
This is a win.
And that's probably exactly what I'll say.
If it turns out to be good.
But what I hope I don't say that I'm leaning towards I probably will is
it's still not doing it.
Because if the tone is if they're showing that teaser,
don't play with the shit,
then to me,
I feel like my comments in general to Mars,
they drop the ball again.
Yeah.
When they're holding on to something that's good.
We'll see.
And or other.
How much money will the end game September re-release make?
That's a great question.
That's a great question because I don't think it's going to push you into the $3 million,
or $3 billion,
because it probably will make,
it's probably going to make, with endgame coming out, September re-release,
I bet you it makes between 40 and 50.
Yeah, endgame right now is at what, 2.7, 2.7, 2.8, so 2.8, basically.
Yeah, so I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to speak between 30 and 40,
I'll say.
Yeah, I don't think it's going to make $200 million.
No, no, it'll be 30 and 40 million.
But it's worldwide.
I still, it depends.
Again, like we said, if they, if they market it as a direct sequel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, because I wonder what the, because it would be shit, man,
when they were releasing those Sam Ramey Spider-Man movies,
those things are doing well.
Yeah, they're supposedly adding a new scene to the end of this end game release
that will connect up to Doomsday.
So that might get more people in the theater.
So maybe.
What do you say?
I say 30 to 40.
Yeah.
Maybe 100.
100.
You think the re-release will make $100 million?
Maybe.
That's crazy.
I'm just saying.
What's the highest amount of money a re-release has ever made?
$100 million.
People hope for their new ones to get $100 million.
Hey, oh.
No way.
I don't even know how I would look that up.
highest grossing re-release ever or ever?
I don't even know how I would look that up
because you have to be specific.
I mean, yeah, I don't know.
So someone looked that up.
Titanic holds the highest record for the,
Titanic holds a record for the highest grossing re-release at the time
with its 2012 3-D release alone generating 350 million worldwide.
350 million worldwide on a re-release.
What year is?
2012, 15 years late.
Wow, I mean, 350 million on the re-release?
Because it was in 3D.
It was in 3D.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
It is the top grossing re-released film because there were other limited re-releases.
So total, in total, in all of its re-releases, it's made $400 million worldwide.
And it's re-releases, totally.
Wow.
It's crazy.
Wow.
All right.
Look, maybe it's not too nuts.
I don't know.
When I think re-releases, I think, people are like, I saw it.
Shut up, Ralph.
Who would you personally give Best Actor?
Chalemay.
Actress, Buckley.
Supporting actor.
Supporting actors is going to be interesting.
An actress.
So actress,
who is Best Supporting Actress?
Those are the two that are up in the year.
For me, it's Buckley, agreed.
Timmy, agreed.
Amy Madigan, Sean Penn.
I would have told you Sean Penn was a lock about four months ago.
Now I don't know.
Well, you say, who do you personally?
Who would you personally give it?
Personally, I'd give it to Sean Penn.
I agree.
And probably Madigan, too.
Yep, I agree with all four of these choices.
However, however, I would actually give it to Leo over Timmy.
Wow.
Wow.
Okay with Timmy getting it.
I thought he was amazing.
But Leo is that movie.
Leo is that movie.
And everybody else is getting the, you know, the praise for it.
But he's phenomenal in that movie.
The password scene alone, man.
The passport scene?
The passport.
Password.
Password scene.
I was going to say that password scene is legendary.
It's as good as the Quilude scene in Wolfel Walsby.
It's so good.
It's so good.
It's so real.
It's so good.
I love that scene so much and he's so good in it.
Matt Sinisterner-McKal rank these best pitcher nominees.
Secret Agent, sentimental value,
begonia, hamnet, and train dreams.
I felt like I was crushed by a lot.
It's a tough one to watch.
I'll give you as far as my enjoyment on them.
Okay.
All right.
I'm going to go, I mean, as far as, again, not like super, although it's fun, but just
the ones that I responded to the most.
Hamnet is probably out of this list is my number one.
Then secret agent.
Then sentimental value.
Then train dreams and then begonia.
Okay.
I'll say Hamnet, train dreams.
sentimental value secret agent
begonia. That's my...
They're both have begonia in the five.
Yeah. Tim, what up Tim.
Hope everyone's Valentine's Day weekend went well.
Night of the Seven Kingdom was 100% cinema. Sure was.
Not going to lie. This Warner's saga between Netflix
and Paramount's crazy. When do you think it will resolve?
Not for quite a while.
Not for quite a while. I think that we're probably going to
look towards the end.
Yeah. Yeah. I think Paramount's
invested in getting it quickly.
And I think Netflix is invested in dragging this thing out to crush Paramount.
So it's not going to be it for a while.
Corn Emperor.
What's so cool.
How much for an S.E.N. style show going toward the show.
I don't know what that means.
How much for S.E.N. style show going toward the show.
Maybe you're saying how much for an S.E.N. style show going forwards with this show,
that would be a lot of money.
Yeah, like I said, it's like, so I would tell you right now what we would need to make for the
day in order to do that if I was going to do.
Plus, in fact, I can't do, I don't want to do a
stream yard show with six. I agree with you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they'd have
to get everybody. First of all, so I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you
the price point of getting everybody in studio,
hotels, and then price points
and all that. So, let's say. Hotels, you'd have to move us to
apartments. You'd have to QBC. No, no, he's saying for,
is he saying just one or for overall? No, I think he's saying overall,
going forward with the show, make it S. S.
want to do that.
My days of the Collider Live S-E-N format.
I like one-on-one conversations.
I'm done with the back and forth.
I'm too old for that shit.
Shut up, Ralph.
What is your favorite love scene in a movie?
Mine is that stupid movie with Angelina Jolie and Antonio Banderas.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, you know, the bang-dangs.
Yeah, let's see.
What's a good?
Shit, I'm trying to think.
We did this on an old episode of Shmo's a long time ago.
Probably Tom Cruise or Reckadee Morne on the train in risky business.
That's more of a sexting, though, isn't it?
Love scene is a whole other ball again.
What do you mean by love scene, Ralph?
Do you mean like, make a love?
He means bang bang.
He means bang bang.
I don't know.
I got a, I don't even, I'm trying to think.
Penny Barber in.
Penny Barber in Silly Housewife 7.
Wedding Smashers.
Yeah, exactly.
Let's see, okay.
The Boner Temple.
That's right.
Let's see.
Karen, you're in my vibe.
English patient bathtub seam.
Absolutely.
H-O-F.
H-A-F.
H-A-F.
Nathan Drake, 253.
Don't think Doomsday was Sean in IMAX,
and it will probably play in Dolby,
which people could go to.
Unlike Odyssey, which is shot for IMAX series.
Yeah, it wasn't shot in IMAX,
but it's going to play an IMAX.
Yeah.
For sure, after Dune's done.
Tim. Also, today, I'm finally starting my watch of the boys in Gen V in prep for the boys' final season. As I haven't seen me yet, I don't want to be part of the final season combo with the praise the shows have. That's pretty cool. Good for you. I'll probably, for me, I'm going to probably have, I would have to catch up with season four that just came out of the boys last one. Season four. I'd have to catch up with four and then I'd have to watch GenV season two. I don't know if I had the strength. Yeah. Are you watching, you watching all of it? Yeah, I'll watch those. But I, the GenVie, I've tried. It's just, I don't.
Maybe I need to try again.
It's fine, but the boys are so good that it just doesn't hold up for me in comparison.
Dean, I love you, Dean, but come on, it's like, it's like stuff like that.
It's like good.
Hold it together.
I don't give a shit.
Hold it together.
I love Dean Lewis, but come on.
Good.
So then, you know, then go back and watch old fucking replays.
What do me do?
Matt Sinister McCall, what's a popular song that you hate that people like?
There's none, there's no song that, you know, there's no song that I hate people like.
it's like something you like something yeah you know it doesn't mean i want to listen to it yeah
so yeah i won't i won't go with that way because it's not it's but there's songs i'm like get that
out of here i don't want to listen to it michael mackenzie hey christian you said you want to see
everything for the oscars did you see did you see the voice of intersap it's not your initial
film it's this generation 993 no you got me on that one i haven't seen that one so um no
the international one i have not that's probably the ones that i i saw so many
different things, so many different things this year, more than I've ever seen in the past.
But no, I missed it. Is it really good?
It's just, you're a United 93. It's going to be a tough one for me.
Oh, cool. Check it out.
All right, let's see. Next one.
Okay.
Josh Duckwall. Happy Monday, Jen. Thank you, Josh. Just sending support. Have a great week.
You too. You too, Josh. Thank you.
Yeah. Sean McKay. My oldest is watching Game of Thrones for the first time.
Just finished season one.
She asked why Ned didn't ask for trial.
by combat gave my best answer. I don't know why he didn't. I think because he was trying to,
I think what I always thought was that his plan was to get to the wall, unite with John Snow,
and cause some shit. Yep. Right? Yeah, I agree. That's what I was just like, you know what?
Okay, this is my plan. I'm going to get, I'll go. I'll get, I'll get the, he's got, he thought he had
his brother there. Yep. Yep. He had everybody there. He could have, he could have rallied the wall,
and he could have done a march on Kings Landing. You know, he thought he had it skirt away. So he, he knew that if he
went there, he would have been good there.
Yeah. He would have been all right there.
We would have had a lot of support there. And he probably would have been leading.
He would have been the Lord Commander within a day and a half.
So, so that's why I think you probably thought that he, because he was going to do it.
So that's, that's what, that's what I gathered from it.
Because, and he was in no, he was in no state to, he was, he was limping around.
Jamie had just stabbed them.
Yeah.
He was in no state to fight.
Who's going to fight for him?
You know, so.
Good point.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Okay.
Butt Smasher.
Have you ever seen Lockstock and Two Smoking Barrels?
Long time ago, but yes.
Absolutely one of my favorite was Statham and Ritchie.
Straight Crime, Drive, very quotable.
Yeah, good movie.
I love Lockstock and Two Smok and Burrows, one of my favorites.
Yeah.
Two directors get.
Dexter Fletcher was one of the boys in that film, and he's a director now.
Yeah.
Eric Henderson.
This would be funny.
Get the vid of T. Rump, shitting himself,
and the second of it's reacting him.
the vids of Mike saying did you shit in there. Does somebody actually
shit themselves? Who is it? Yeah,
Trump. Yeah. Oh,
a couple of weeks ago.
Oh, rumors that he said he said.
Who's T-Rump? It was good that we wrote that.
There's a rapper or something.
Who the fuck is T-Rump? It's like, I'm so
I'm so out of touch.
I don't know who T-Rump is.
Come on T-Rump.
Oh, what did that have to do with it?
Are the hoes loyal?
Are my hoes loyal?
I got loyal hose.
T-rump.
All right.
Jordan McIntyre.
Studies show Gen Z is the most resistant to AI.
Yep.
Oh.
A.I.
Science says we are biologically designed to seek authenticity.
Real things will be highly marketable in the future.
I is just the tool.
I hope you're right, but I think you're wrong.
I hope you're right, but I think you're wrong.
I don't care what Gen Z today.
is my the little ones
that are now little
and they're gonna grow up with this shit
and I hope you're right
they all said that about TV
they all said that about everything
yeah it's not it's not it's not
it's not bad it's not going anywhere
yeah no it's gonna you don't spend
Disney doesn't put 1.4 billion dollars
into a guy and be like it's a passing
fad yeah it's gonna overpower
everything soon
Armada 8YT we need a
man's Jimmy click alt
all personality
for corn to be at
Can you imagine if I, if I dressed myself up, but didn't really ever call myself him, but I just, and I, and that's how I interviewed, um, the, those, the adult film.
And I actually is like, so tell me about your first day at the job. Did you think that that was possible for the human body to do?
Unbelievable. See it.
Ain't know.
Doesn't hurt.
Like I think it does. And how did you get all of that in there at once?
Is it open door policy legitimate?
I mean, come on.
What's a cream filled?
Oh, my God.
Amazing.
Oh, my God.
hilarious.
Okay.
Someone said it.
That's your backdoor pilot right there.
100%.
Someone said,
Yuck.
No shit.
Yuck.
Oh, man.
All right.
Great stuff.
We got more stuff.
So right now, we got 49.
54.
54.
Come on, guys.
54.
Pretty good.
70.
Come on.
54 is pretty good.
You want to keep us on time by this shit.
I always like when people throw in a lot because Rokka tries to get out right on time.
And when you throw in a lot of questions, he can't.
And I love that.
Harvest K, good luck.
Have fun and don't die is great.
Think 12 monkeys with a dash of the Matrix.
Yeah, hearing it's great.
Everything, ever all at once in Groundhog did.
I mean, that's my kind of movie.
I don't know why I haven't seen it yet.
I'll be seeing that one.
Even if I don't do a reaction to, I'm just going to see it.
I just want to say.
Legend, M.S. 600.
MLB starts soon.
Who you like?
Come on.
Go Yanks.
Let's go Mariners.
You're going to sniff my feet.
Armada.
Right here, baby.
That's right.
Always.
That's right.
AYT.
I found it great that everyone wants to be on the barber interview.
Roka, Winston, and Rocky.
Everybody wants to be on it.
Oh, Roxy knows who she is?
Right on.
No, she didn't know who she is.
But it's going to be me, Roxy, and Mike
that are going to do the interview.
Oh, okay.
Right on.
Because we thought that, A, it would be good to have a woman on there with us.
Yeah.
And B, Roxy's a great interviewer.
Yeah, she is.
And, like, she'll ask, she'll ask very thoughtful questions about it.
And, you know, she'll have full respect for the business.
Yeah.
You know, she's not a, she's not a,
He's not a fan of the bit.
Not that she's not a fan of it, but shouldn't watch it.
Right.
But it doesn't mean shit.
And, you know,
because if you just mean Mike, Mike is like,
Mike could have been the undisputed
adult entertainment industry schmodeon champion of the world.
Wow.
Really?
I can't believe how much that guy knows about.
He's that deep into it.
It's, literally.
I can't, it's crazy.
Like the stuff he was throwing, names he's thrown out.
I'm like, what the hell is he talking about?
Like, he was, it's hilarious.
RQMD, SMD.
RIP to Robert Duval,
enjoying today's show. Me too.
And Duval was the absolute man.
Gone too soon.
Act up 805.
Lonesome Dove Duval's favorite of his own work on Peacup.
I love the man.
He just brought such an air of respect.
Love him.
Julius Wyatt.
Hey, John.
Hey, Christian.
John, I know you hate him.
But when are we going to get Lord of the Rings on Sinai?
Also, best president we've ever had.
ass worse. So when are we going to get What are the Rings on Cinephiles? I think you're crazy
for not doing that on Cepiles. Probably be some of your highest rated episodes ever.
Maybe next year. Next year. We're thinking of doing a whole season of
yeah. It would be our entire six months. Probably be the highest rated episode you ever had.
Probably. So as far as Best President, I mean, look, I wasn't alive, but I'll go JFK.
I'll go JFK. Yeah. Go pal. Damn it. Robert Deval pass he was a legend.
Pure legend.
And Duval can't be in the still all the etherealical F1 days of Thunder sequel either.
RIP or are you going to go AI?
AI.
I've been watching those sea dance.
Are you coming around?
Are you coming around on AI, John?
Coming around.
I've accepted it, man.
I'm thinking I should start learning how to use these tools because I mean,
some of the stuff I saw over the weekend with Sea Breeze or whatever was,
I was like, blown away.
Because they need, they need.
they need actors to be a part of this to create this stuff because actors understand emotional beats
character beats builds and that's missing from a lot of this AI stuff there's no soul to it because
most of the people making it are nerding tech bros sitting in their mother's basements like it's got to be
you got to need creativity creative people behind it i want to see what happens like when they start
like actually getting that down and plus they say yeah rumor is that the third one is supposed to be
able to do a full-on feature films that's going to be the nuts part
That's going to be nuts.
Go pal.
Five memberships.
Thank you so much, go, pal.
Marcus.
Longoni.
When we run out of water with all our AIBS,
it won't be funny that.
I mean, they'll generate water bottles.
Paul Hitchcock, Gene Hackman and Robert Duval gone.
Yeah.
We don't have any great,
every man bald actors anymore.
Roka, shave your head and take some acting lessons.
He's done.
Roka was an actor.
People don't know that about you, I guess.
he just thinks I'm not good enough
so I have to take acting lessons
yeah maybe so
I am too fly cam
you're insane if you think that Ned
would abandon his vows after taking the black
in march on anyone
but the WWE
favorite P star is Melanie
so presidential
okay
Melanie I don't know Melanie
I don't know Melanie but
but you know listen
the thing is too
John Snow wasn't going to break his vow
and he did
yeah things happen
things happen
so maybe not but he still would have found out what's going on maybe john could have convinced
otherwise whatever it might have been he might have thought like hey i could go there i could be with
john and i can finally tell him what's going on you know with his he's told him in the beginning of
that first episode when i get back i'm going to tell you the truth about your mother you have a chance
to tell him yeah so there you go all right couple left okay arwin evans support for john and christian
can you tell my grandkids uh wait to see grogoo i'm not excited about it but they are
So I think it will do okay.
Are I Peter Robert Deval, one of the kids?
But that's, I think she just made the point.
Yeah, yeah.
Kids are going to be lining up to see that little bastard.
Sure.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
So I think that maybe it'll do really well.
I think it's going to do well with the kids.
I think it'll do well with the kids.
So let's see.
Okay, one more for now.
Hey, John Burkart.
Good luck, have fun, don't die.
It was good.
but I had a bad theater experience.
Kids were FaceTime during that.
I have to see, I don't,
this is why when people say,
oh, why don't you ever go to the movies
outside of press screenings?
That's why.
I've been saying this for two years now.
Yeah.
I refuse to.
Today I'm going, but I check the theaters
four people in the theater.
Two people in the theater.
Perfect.
I don't like to see movies in credit theaters anymore.
I don't.
People don't know how to act anymore.
It's a fucking animal.
No, and they think that it's okay to do and that you're the bad guy.
Right.
It's, you know, my wife and I were having this conversation, it's not only with that.
It's like even generations have changed.
Have you noticed customer services has changed too?
100%.
It's like the more we paid the people, like we fought for them and we lobbied and marched
and protested and everything to get higher pay for these workers, and they're giving you worse service.
It's insane.
So this is crazy.
two things happened over the weekend, right?
And so we're walking, we went to this one store,
and my wife was returning something that we had gotten.
So she was waiting for the,
we're by the, it was a party barn.
You know, and we're waiting for the,
one of the people to come over.
And so my wife was like, well,
no one's come over and like five minutes,
so I'll go check in.
So she sort of this woman who's working there.
She taught,
and this woman's talking to this other people.
My wife sweetly goes over and says,
hi, you know, just curious if,
if someone's going to be around the other side,
because I would have this return.
She's like,
someone will be there soon.
She's like, well, I've been waiting there for a little bit.
Is someone coming soon?
She's like, someone will be there.
But there's nobody there.
And she has one of those fucking things on her, on her, like, call someone.
Yeah, calls somebody, right.
And she's like, oh, so she goes, okay, so she goes back over.
Nothing.
She's like, I'll go and ask the woman again.
And she's like, there's no one over there.
She's like, oh, I don't know what to tell you.
She's like, what?
She's like, I don't know what to tell you.
And she's like, what do you mean?
Don't you work here?
Like, can you call?
I'm trying to return this.
get and purchase something else.
Like, what are you doing?
And then manager came over and my wife is not someone who doesn't say anything.
So she's like, I'm just going to let you know.
And she's, my wife is super polite and this happened twice.
And I'll tell you super polite and was like, I just want to let you know.
This thing happened.
And the manager was great.
Manager's like, oh, that shouldn't have happened.
But I also say that the managers are the good ones who understand how to handle this.
Right.
At the end, if the manager goes, well, fuck you.
After my wife walks out, fine, but didn't do her face.
And she'll complain.
about it, it's fine. But you know, my wife was also very, again, like I said, just telling her what
happened. And we did the return. She'd pick something else up. We left. Then yesterday,
walking in his very popular place, it's a coffee place. And we walk in, and it was busy,
slam it. I was going to do a video on it, but the way that this one to behave, I decided not to.
We walk in, the guy takes our order. Fine. We had two, I don't know, coffees, whatever it was.
Sure. And then my wife had ordered a chocolate muffin. Okay.
She ordered, get it.
I don't know.
I'm sitting there.
I'm waiting to my wife because I'm going to,
she walked over the street to go get a bag of apples.
So I'm sitting there and I look at the muffin.
I'm not,
I'm just hungry.
I'm like a wild animal in the woods.
I'm just,
I take a bite of it and I put it back.
I don't know what it was.
And my wife comes back.
She's going to have the muffins.
She's like,
what's this?
She's like,
I ordered chocolate chip muffins.
I don't want that.
I'm going to let them know.
So she walks back in,
tells the guy and guy,
And the guy goes like this.
She goes, she's like, I ordered a chocolate muffin.
And yeah, I got a chocolate chip.
The guy goes, and she's like, what do you mean?
It's like, I got a chocolate muffin.
Is it, is it okay?
Can I exchange it?
Because I don't, you know, it was chocolate.
It's like, well, you wanted a chocolate, chocolate muffin.
Does it say that on the fucking thing?
Like, how is supposed to know?
It's a chocolate, chocolate muffin.
And so the guy's like, all right, I have to call my manager.
And she's like, what?
And she goes, for a muffin.
She goes, all right, call your manager then.
And he goes, all right, just take the muffins.
Why, why are you giving you could give the muffin?
Why are you giving shit?
Just give the fucking muffin.
And then so my wife, again, goes, I got to tell the manager.
I mean, why are you calling the manager?
And she had, the manager was great.
She's great.
She's like, oh, you know, next time you come in, I'll take care of this.
It was so stupid.
Yeah.
People are terrible.
Yeah.
People are terrible.
What's the one?
What's the guy you talked to a few weeks ago?
What did the guy say to you?
Oh, that was like a couple months ago.
What happened?
What happened?
Trader Joe's.
He got the chocolate.
What happened?
What happened?
How about, how can I help you, sir?
What happened?
What happened?
I'm having this issue with Colligan.
Same situation.
We get water delivered every month.
And the guy has been late three times.
And I call customer services last time.
And the woman was like, he's behind.
He's probably going to get there sometime this week.
I go this week, when this week.
And she goes, I have no idea, but sometimes.
time this week. And I go, okay, now it's usually customary for you guys to like give a little
discount because you're behind and we're going to be out of water. And she's like, yeah, okay,
I guess we can credit you a bottle. I was like, the fuck is wrong with you. Like, where did customer
service go? It's out the window, dude. It's out of the window. Some people are absolutely 100%
right. They're saying people just don't aren't trained the right way anymore. Yeah. We got a couple more
We got a couple more while we were talking.
Let's see.
We did that one.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
We did that one.
Where did we leave off on?
I can tell you my grandkids.
I did that one too.
Sorry, I lost on my show.
All right, let's see.
Marcus Longoni, have you guys seen what data centers do to the water limit?
It's not sustainable.
Yeah, I don't know enough about the stats.
I really don't.
I don't want to play.
Marcus, businesses,
have been screwing neighborhoods, cities, counties,
states over for decades in this country,
why do you think AI will be the breaking point?
It won't because a lot of people are going to make money off AI
and they will allow all kinds of environmental shit to happen
in order to make money, you know?
Mr. Nerd Fanatic, John Snow had a loophole with his death.
That he did.
Yep, true that.
Clipchamp Razor.
King motion control is where you want to look
if you want to give a film performance and turn it into an AI film.
Kling.
Okay.
Kling motion.
Alex, just tuned in and just learning from you guys, Robert DeVall died.
Shit, you've ever seen secondhand lions?
Have I?
Yeah, him and Michael came with Haley Joel Osmond.
That was a good movie.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, just a long time ago.
Yeah, really good, really good.
Author Rose, boomer complaint, boomer complaint part of the show,
leave workers.
Yeah, it's true.
I used to be a worker, so I know what I'm talking.
talking about. I worked retail and customer service for 20 years. So I know when I get good ones and I
know when I get shit one so I can speak about it. And it's not. And this is probably someone who's
happy being terrible to people in now. Because again, when you ask people like there's,
there's a couple of places when you walk in, you're like, you know what? It's like, wait,
that's not how it. That's not the job. You got to, you don't have to pretend you want to,
you don't, you have to pretend that you want to be there. You have to pretend that that person,
if they're like, okay, you're allowed to complain to your coworkers.
Do you ever, like that?
This person, I used to do this when I was a restaurant all the time.
This guy at table three is a fucking asshole.
He sucks.
And then I'd go back and then I'd be like, all right, what else can I get you?
Okay, thank you for coming in.
It's part of the job.
Yeah, yeah.
Listen, it's not the customer's fault that you're getting paid shit wages and can barely pay you rent.
That's not that you've taken the job.
Yeah.
If you've taken the job, you have responsive.
A sort of a contract to be good at your job.
Okay?
Because that breeds bad habits.
Well, you're only going to get the best of me if you pay me extra.
But it's never going to be enough.
So you're always going to find an excuse to not be good at your job.
That's not the way it should be.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's see.
Next one.
Alex.
Folks, yesterday I saw what is perhaps a greatest film of all time, Nirvana, the band, the show, the movie.
Haven't felt joy like that in a long time.
100% must see.
Not to bring this into a crazy note.
Did you see that report about Kurt Cobain?
No.
What is this?
There was like a forensic guy, like scientist guy that says that it wasn't, that he didn't commit suicide?
Well, I didn't want to say, oh, sorry, unalibed himself?
Yeah, that it was actually a homicide.
Yeah, I believe that from the beginning.
But this is, look at that, look at that report.
It came out like a week ago, two weeks ago.
There's a science.
There's a forensic guy who says that from what he looked at in the retracing,
and he is convinced this was not
this was not what it says it was.
Yeah, I've never believed it was
that he had elived himself.
I always thought there was something involved.
But I'm glad that I didn't know that they had
a thing, a movie coming out.
It's cool. Armada, still curious if Sean is in the next
Apatow movie.
Blew it.
28 Vasco.
I worked retail over 22 years.
There's definitely a shift in attitude of younger generation.
Yes.
I could see it.
We think they're owed everything.
Everything and they don't have to work.
Younger generations want to be the CEO of the company as soon as they walk through the door.
There's such an entitlement to them that it drives me nuts sometimes.
Not everyone, right?
Because I also see people out in the streets protesting.
I'm really proud of the young generation, the way they're out there fiercely protesting for things that are going on in our society right now.
A lot of love.
But there are, there's a lot of this generation that is DGAF about everything.
And it's like, come on, man.
Like, you got to dial into society.
Yeah.
Let's say Armada.
Oh, he did that one.
Sorry.
That's Spencer, Drake.
Please add Nirvana the band show movie to your watch list.
Incredibly creative and absurdly funny.
Would make an amazing reaction.
I don't know.
See, the reaction is always like,
but people are going to watch it.
People saw, people told me that people are going to watch the Muppets reaction.
Nobody did.
Really?
Roca, you're missing out.
When you shut someone up in a crowded movie theater,
you walk out there feeling like Wyatt and Doc walking out of the OK Corral.
Oh, baby.
I've shut many people up in movies.
I know, but he's saying this.
I know, that's what I'm saying.
That's why John doesn't need to do that.
He's too, he's going to.
Yeah, I don't want to go to jail.
Right.
You don't need to do that.
Two more.
Gerard.
8846.
David Lach and Statham movie,
Take My Money.
Movie is called Jason Statham stole my bike.
Right, that's the new one.
That's the new one?
Is that real?
It's real.
He's playing himself.
And it'll be Jason Statham stole my bike.
That's hilarious.
My choice.
I knew,
loved it. Now, that's not, that's not what they said. That's not what they say. That's not,
that's not the report. That's not the report. Jordan McIntyre, if anyone can create AI
films in five minutes, where is the benefit for companies? Over saturation. I mean,
now they're going to have to monitor it. They're going to have to monitor what they're
going to be able to do. And look, and it's the same way, like, look, anybody can make and
look, granted, anybody can make a regular film with an iPhone.
Yeah, with anybody. Anybody can, right? You know, it just, it's, it's, it's,
are going to be good in the same way and very different tools and very aware.
But someone made this, like if you and I sat down and put in prompts and camera shots
of what we wanted to see and then Christopher Nolan did it, I'm going to guess that Christopher
Nolan's AI movies probably getting better than ours.
Exactly.
Right?
Yes.
So creative people, it's not that creative people are not going to be involved with the AIS stuff.
The problem is that there's just a lot of shortcuts.
Yeah.
I sat there on a Saturday a couple weeks ago because of Kevin Spence.
And I watched a crap ton of AI Star Wars movie.
There was one that was good.
And I watched like 20.
There was one that was good.
So it's not a matter of everyone can do it.
Sure, everyone can do it.
It doesn't mean everyone's talented enough to do it.
That talent is still going to matter when it comes to this.
Even those clips that you see online now, they're not all great.
No, it's going to be a while before they even perfected too.
But the imagery is getting close.
but the robotic delivery is still there is still right right um we did that one already we did that one
already i am two-fly cam i think younger generations realize this country was sold out from under their feet
by old generations just my opinion though welcome to america every generation every generation feels
that way it's true i mean come on yeah yeah eric henderson protesting in the 60s i know
Snyder have any scoops on donkeys in space no see the thing is we got to realize is now
Snyder is on guard now
to realize that there's always something
coming from me. So you got to do it real slick
and I thought we had him with
Sean Moroni, but Roka just forgot that we were
even doing it. So we'll get him
again. Orange Grove.
Warner Brothers Netflix internal talks must be
souring. Winter Brothers now suddenly
down for Paramount? Interesting stuff.
They didn't say they were down for Paramount. They said they were
opening the door. That's what they said.
I think that they nailed it
with the
speculation of just upping the price.
and getting stockholders a little bit more excited about what else can we get
anyway all right john so 75 good good start good start too bad 75 thank you guys
what's going on the channel where can they see what's yeah you can come and hang out with me
on the john roka channel here youtube.com slash john roca says a lot of stuff going on of course the
hot mickeke buddies will be reviewing game of the house sorry the united seven kingdoms as well
and we'll have hot mic later spill the tequila tomorrow night i might go if i go see both
whether I had some crime 101 today
I will Mikeo live tonight just talk about those movies
and talk about whatever else is going on in the world
on my channel tonight as well and of course
the Cineophiles which people have been talking about already
throughout the show today in my new podcast
or my podcast rather our new episode
A Few Good Men is up for people to listen
and PLD go F yourself
buddy you're younger than me but I look younger than you
so that's the difference there with your talkies
all right take care
John Roka out
thank you guys
for being here. Appreciate it. Again, 75, really, really good. I like the start. Tomorrow's
me, Mike, and Roxy. I have my next big phone call for, as I told you, once I have more
conversations about the project, we'll give you updates Monday. So hopefully getting closer and
closer to being able to launch this thing. So I think that's it. Apple Podcast, Spotify,
anywhere podcasts are found. I'll have the Game of Thrones.
reaction with me and Sam up tomorrow. Red Wedding's coming on Friday.
Pretty pumped about that. So,
uh, kill Bill.
If anybody, um,
if anybody didn't watch that with me and me,
please do that. We're going to be part two is coming out soon.
And I think that's about it.
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