The Kristian Harloff Show - How do YOU feel about the current state of Star Wars?

Episode Date: February 21, 2024

Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow The Bad Batch is out and we haven't watched it yet. The three of us didn't realize it was on. Is the excitement for Star Wars dwindling? Is it on it's way back? Can The Acolyte, Skeleton Crew, Favreau's movie and the new Rey movie get the hype back? Where does Star Wars land with you right now? Speaking of big Sci-Fi fantasy Dune 2 comes out March 1 and Kristian has seen it! Is the hype real and why is it so special? Heading back to Star Wars, Acadamey Award nominee Angela Basett is rumored tohave taken a meeting with Lucasfilm, will she appear in a glaxy far far away and former Star Wars director Garreth Edwards seems to be the next director to helm The Jurassic Park series. Good choice? This and more on today's Big Thing with Kristian, Mike and Steph.  #starwars #dune2 #dune #theacolyte #keanureeves #jurassicpark NUTRAFOL: Take the first step to visibly thicker, healthier hair. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to http://www.Nutrafol.com/men and enter the promo code BIGTHING FUM: Start the year off right with The Good Habit by going to http://www.TryFum.com/BIGTHING and getting the Journey pack today. Füm is giving listeners of the show 10% off when they use my code "BIGTHING" to help make starting The Good Habit that much easier. MAGIC SPOON Go to http://www.magicspoon.com/BIGTHING to grab a variety pack and try it today! And be sure to use our promo code BIGTHING at checkout to save five dollars off your order! OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-... FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls...

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Hello. Michael Kellanowski. What's up? We're back. Yeah, buddy. Real quick. Yeah, oh, here we go. Listening to your intro there,

I thought the whole stand-up with me was if we hit a certain number by a certain date. No. It just goes on indefinitely, so I will have. have to do it? Yes. That's, I didn't agree to that. You did. I agreed to it like a time frame. Like, I think it was like by the first of the year we had to hit that. We're going to go back and check the receipts on that one. We know how you are. You're, what? All you have to do is be yourself. You know, I'll tell you, you and Roka come from the same cloth. Oh, here we go. I tried to get out of

here we go. But it was great. Someone pointed it out in the in the comments. So we said that Deadpool, I said, this is hilarious. By the way, if you go back and watch this on the live stream, someone sent me the time codes and I go, Deadpool will hit a billion dollars. And he goes, and he goes, and he's like, no, no way. He's like, I don't think he'll make $6.50. And I go, it'll make a billion. I'll say, I'll give you $750. I'll give me an extra $100.

I'll give you $750 steak dinner. And then two days ago, when we're on the air, he's like, no, I said it'll make a billion. I said, it's definitely going to make a billion. I said, you did not say it's going to make a billion. I don't think he'll get the, and he's trying to get the steak. And he's like, no, no, the steak dinner was, you said it wouldn't make a billion. And I go, okay, you and Mike Kalinowski are the same dude. Did Noi-Hohom make a billion?

It made like 1.6. Okay. And so they, something like that, 1.5, 1.6. So I sent him the footage and now we're good to go. But him, I sent him the footage, and he still came up with a bunch of nonsense. But anyway, yes. Sure. What is hilarious, is right before we started shooting, I said, hey, guys, did you know,

do any one of you watched the Bad Batch, considering this was Sith Council and we do all the Star Wars shows? So the Bad Batch episodes 1 through 3 dropped last night. I'd gotten sent, I think 10 episodes or something. I haven't watched one of them. I haven't watched one. And I've heard good things. I just have not been. And I went through this last season two.

I was like, I'm not excited for this show. And then the show pops up. And I remember the second half of that show was awesome. Season 2 was great. He had great things about this one. I did not watch episode 1 through 3. Steph did you? No.

Mike, did you? you saw my face this morning right I didn't know it was out and nobody knew that I know that's that's not to say that like I'm in the world of like on Twitter and the notifications and everything and like no one hyped this thing up

no one Star Wars didn't talk about it there's no commercials no well right the official Star Wars but like everybody this is this goes back to and I don't want to keep harping on it but like this goes back to the only time the only people I saw tweeting about it was the everything is awesome crew so like when I saw it I'm like

I'm like, I love that you love it. I love that you love it. I'm so glad you do, but I could have predicted that tweet. So I wanted to see people who I didn't know. Just the people in like the general film Twitter. Yeah, because you know people. A new trailer drops. I wanted to love it.

I wake up in the morning, my feed is full of it. No matter when that roadhouse trailer, again, that's not a big high profile movie. But my feed was littered with people like, oh, that cool, cool. Oh, yeah, should have this, this. There was no talk this morning outside of the people who have podcast. based on Star Wars solely like that we're helping it up yeah yeah that's it I don't think anyone who's not a mega diehard star wars fan watches bad batch I think you I think you're right yeah I think you're right I think and that's not meant to be like shady or anything no this is

really matter of fact you're 100% right this it's made for and that's okay that be made some shows be made for super star Wars but that's what this show is and I think what it is I was having this conversation with PLD yesterday I think I'm just It's like I've said many times over when you come to like a sports team and you're just a fan of the sports team and then there's a period of the time when you're just like, yeah, just not into the team as much as I used to be. They can win me back with a couple good seasons with some new players and stuff too. But right now I'm just, and I will talk about it, if someone said to me, okay, I'm going to give you the Dune world for the next 10 years or Star Wars. no question Dune all day long.

It is just way better than Star Wars is right now and it's like it takes itself real serious and it's got good writing, great music. You can't compare the two. I'm talking about right now

as far as science fiction. Dune is one movie with one person but one person you even said it's like it's one six hour movie. I'm not comparing the two as far as overall.

I'm telling you my personal preference at the moment. At the moment because And like I said, I just, I don't get as excited for Star Wars now because I'm, because the last, I haven't, Andor was the last thing. And I'll be excited for season two of Andor. That was the last thing that I was just like, aha, I feel like, the first two episodes is Osoko was like, okay, where are we going? And then the writing was just so bad. I was like, this is just not great. But I'm glad that other people love it. That's the other thing. That's the thing. That's the thing that I don't like what people do when they go, well, I don't like something. So you like it. Yeah. Or like, I can't believe you like it. Right. Those kind of comments, it's like, what do you mean you can't believe you like it? It's great. Are we just a monolith of people that like the same things?

That's exactly right. And I said, and I had said the things for everybody who like really digs at everything too. And I tell you, I'm going to watch Bad Batch and I'll probably wind up digging a lot of it too. I'm just not as excited as I used to be. When the first season came out, I'm like, Steph, do you watch it yet? Same thing. Like people are like, when you go see that collide trailer? I'm like, when we do.

You know, when we do. It's a bummer. I know, but like it just. And I say that with, I don't, I don't subscribe to this notion of, well, Star Warsy, Gedge. I say, no, it's not. It's just, it's, I'm just disappointed by it right now. It could easily, there's a lot of years left. And a lot of projects coming up.

Yeah. So, and, like, you can win me back like that. Right. But right now, I'm just not excited for it. And there's so much good, so many good shows in movies coming out right now that it's kind of hard for it to be on the forefront when we're just so excited about. about these other properties dropping. So I know you're not a fan of it, but like House of the Dragon.

Someone says to me, okay, you can only have one this year. Ackleid or House of the Dragon, House of the Dragon season two, right away. Yeah, because you know they're dunking. Because I know it's going to be great. You know it's going to be, it's a follow-up to what I'm, I've already invested. I already invested.

Now, Acklite is still a very highly anticipated series for me because I want to see that time period. I'm so tired. I think that's another reason with Bad Bad Batch. I'm so tired of this time period. Yeah. I'm so tired of it. It's like, let's go away from this,

especially in the animated thing. It's like, okay, I get it. The clones, the clones, the clones, I get it. Let's get away from that. And so I am now really looking forward to some other stuff. Like there's, I'm looking forward to the fallout series, that game. I've never played the game, but I hear great things about it. I'm really looking forward to that series.

I'm going to tune into Last Everminter on Thursday. It's like, you know, newer, familiar IP and see what people are going to do with it. I'm excited for it. But am I nuts to feel this way? stuff. Are you as excited for Star Wars these days? No, I feel the same way where I'm, my heart is still with Star Wars. Yeah, but I, I feel like it's, there's other stuff coming out where I'm like, you guys don't have the weight of the Disney IP dragging you down right now in a way that I feel, I don't know, maybe it's just getting older too where I'm like, I, I want you guys

to take bigger swings and be a little dark. or not afraid to... That's where my dune stuff comes in. You're going to lose your mind. When you see this movie, you're going to lose your mind. Mike, you've been disappointed with Star Wars since we started the show three years. No, man. Maybe it's like, maybe it's stuff you, I was thinking it before you just said it now.

Maybe we get older. Well, we do get older. That's a fact. Yeah, but maybe our tastes don't like, like perfect example, because I have to use it because of how I'm known on the internet with D.C. I never saw that my adventures with social. Superman. I saw one episode of it. I'm like, I had it same for me. It's this animated, this anime-ish ain't for me. Doesn't mean I don't love DC. Doesn't mean I'm not going to watch everything.

Well, I don't say that because they, over the holidays, they did this My Little Superman, my Merry Batman. It was like an animated Christmas Batman movie. Me, Batman Christmas, but I didn't watch it. Yeah. Doesn't mean I don't love DC and Batman. Right. I'm just like, that one just didn't tune in. Well, but, and I, but the difference is that DC has a couple more things in the animated side that is hitting for you. does work for you. Right. So Star Wars just got to get back on that, on that track. I hope I'm really, of course I'm rooting for the Favreau movie. I'm rooting for all the movies. Yeah. I hope. I'm hoping that when Ackley comes out, I say to you guys, boy, was I wrong? Man, I should have been, I should have been really looking forward to this one. The best, this is my favorite thing that I've ever seen. Yeah. I hope. Well, let me ask you this then. Because I think for me I found with Star Wars now, it's, they have a, way that they do things now. And it kind of like, Asoka,

Obi-Wan, Boba-Fet, all felt the same and or felt different because they shot it in England. On location. So for me, going forward with the Star Wars stuff, anything that I know is shooting here in L.A. With the volume, all that stuff here, I'm not, because I've seen it.

hesitant. Yeah, so Alkalite is in England, right? Yeah, but the shooting on set. So I don't know. I like my Star Wars to feel like, perfect example Robert Rodriguez his episode of Mando shooting up in the mountains up in Santa

Corita and everyone's like it looks so low budget it looked like the first Star Wars movie 100% like the first Star Wars movie and that's why for me with my Star Wars going forward it's more going to be what it looks like and what because I can't well it's the writing too man I think that and I am going to get you're both 100% right when it comes to

as you get older you expect a little bit more in the quality of it too and to be fair to them they made it very clear that Star Wars is for kids. Sure. Right. And that's fine. It was, I mean, look, it's when we fell in love with it, right? Right.

We were kids. Sure. So if that's the case, then I definitely get it. What I was, what I'm hoping that happens, though, is because I think I talked about us on our Q&A for the Patreon yesterday is that I don't necessarily love Rebel Moon. I don't hate it as much as everybody else did. I don't think it's good. I liked it.

But I enjoyed watching it. I enjoyed watching it because it was an original science fiction fantasy IP, right, based off Star Wars stuff or whatever. And so another reason why I like the creator, even that's more science fiction still. I want, and that's why I love Dune so much. I want to see more swings inside of the kind of like more serious tone science fiction, science fiction fantasy. I want to see the rated R version of Rebel Moon.

I want to see more of those things. And I just think that maybe you balance it out to where if Star Wars is going in that particular direction, because like if you watch the writing of the Soka, like again, Obi-1, the writing, it's just, it's bad. It's just bad writing. And then you compare it to Andor writing, you compare it to Dune writing, and it's like more of that place all day long. Yeah. When are you going to see Dune too?

On Friday, March 1st. Yeah. I'm going to put you on the spot here right now because this conversation that the two of you have going on right here, very similar to two years ago with Top Gun. Sure. You can only watch Top Gun or Dune. This one again. What do you pick? Because you both were like, Mike, you're going to cream your first.

pants. Steph, best thing ever. My brother brought this up to me. Oh, about Maverick? Yeah, Maverick, I'm sorry. My brother brought this up. So I'm seeing very similar vibes.

I know. My brother brought this up to me. So which one you watch? It's a different vibe. It doesn't matter. It's such, it's, nope. I'm God and I said you can watch one. We'll answer.

I'm just telling you it's a completely different vibe. That's the answer that I gave to my brother. I said, Tom I go, they're just so different. Their movies are so different. It's like, what Top Gun Maverick did so well, it's like, it's just like this. It's what movies you see. to be with budgets of today, but it just was a full, pure, blockbuster popcorn movie, right? Yeah. Okay.

Dune 2 and Dune 1 together are just this kind of like dense, in-depth, smart, character-driven science fiction, right? And it's like darker in tone in general. And like I said in my thing, it's, it's Game of Thrones meet Star Wars. and it's recency bias. You know, I just saw Dune. You're like, okay, you can only watch one of them again right now. I'll ask you a year from now. I'll come back to this. A year from now.

And that's tough because I, like, I like, because I like the way I feel after I watched Top Gun Maverick every time. You're like, yeah. Yeah, right. Dude, you're just like, whoa. I don't know, like, I don't know if I can like, the wave of emotion that felt for both of them in different ways. But the wave of emotion I was doing, I was telling stuff, I sat there and I looked at the screen

afterwards and I went and I didn't even realize and I went wow like that I was like it was I was blown away by that movie so my favorite movie two questions damn two questions then isn't this you said it's one six hour movie but isn't they are doing three coming out so the rumors not rumors because deneval new have talked about it

so the rumors are that and again I keep saying rumors but deneval new was talked about Dune legacy which is the next one and he's and it's getting closer and closer that he's probably going to do it So it's like a, and it was a continuation. Dune 1 and 2, the movies, are just the one book. It's the one book. It's one book split into two.

Okay. June legacy is completely different. And they're doing a Dune television series, but it's about the, it's about the witches. Or, you know, from, I think it's like a thousand years beforehand on Max. And now are you okay with this? With the book? Or with Legacy? With them mining it to be more than just a one book.

Yeah. It's Frank Herbert's book. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So it's like, and if De Neville knew, I want DeNeville to do it. Like, if they give it to somebody else, I'll probably, this guy just gets this world, man.

Like the music, oh, oh. It's Hans again, right? Hans? Yeah. Second question. Follow up. How much money do you think it makes? You know, I'm starting to change my tune a little bit.

Because you didn't think a billion. I still don't think of it. It's just, it's not a four quadrant. It's in a three-hour movie. It's not making a billion dollars. But it's going to make significantly more than the first one. People are super hyped for this one. Of course.

I think it crosses five to six. Worldwide. I think six is generous. And I'm not saying that negatively. No, no, no. I'm not saying that negatively at all. No, you're not, it's a very, it's, look, it's not, it's a recognizable property. And the first one because of the.

Cast. And people really checking it out and seeing it on Max and building up, that that's where it started to really gain traction. It's funny because I called, after I was done with the screening, I called Mark Ryan. Riley, right? Told him about him. It was losing my mind. And then I called my second call was to Matt Sarah.

And he's a major Dune fan. Oh, I didn't know. Oh, he's a major Dune fan. So he was on vacation. And so I call him and he picks me up and he goes and he picks up. He goes, are you calling me about Dune? He goes, did you see Dune yet? And I go, I just saw it.

He goes, talk to me. It was amazing. That's hysterical. It's amazing. So he was excited to, to talk about it. That's so great when you have a movie. It's so good. that you have to call the homies.

I was like, I couldn't, I was pretty confident. You don't pick up your phone anyway, so I wasn't going to call you, but I, but I, but I, but I was pretty, you don't. You're, you're, you're, you're better with me than most people. Yeah, but I feel like I do. You text, you text, text a little bit, but you text. You remember, we had this whole text thread going and Brett's like, why is this stephen rocks here constantly on their phones, but they never text back.

Oh my God. That's hysterical. It's hilarious. But, um, but listen. as we're talking about Dune here, and now we're, I think reviews are kind of up. This movie, guys, it's,

it really is. It's, it's a masterpiece. It's a full-on masterpiece. It's, it's everything you want it to be. For people, and you're going to see the comments

because people, I saw the comments, and Mike mentioned it to me too. It's like, well, I was, I was bored. The first one was boring. If,

if, it's, to me, it's this really, because I was walking out of the theater and I saw a couple people and like, what did you think?

And I was just, you know, blown away. and they said to me, like, well, I like this one better than the first one. I said, it's too hard for me to say that because this movie elevates the first one substantially because it is clearly one movie. It's one movie. So it's hard because the first movie is not a full movie.

It's part one. It's a great part one. It's a great first half. but this is the whole movie. So the answer is the whole damn thing is spectacular. Yeah. That's the answer.

Is it better than the first one? Watch it with the second one. It elevates. But I remember after the first one dropped and came out, there was this period of like, we don't know if we're making the second one. And it only made like...

That was very brief. But it was like, it was never like a sure thing. They were like, we hoped to... That was before it came out. Before it came out because of the explosion of people talking about it And what they were going to do was just dump it on Max. And then they had a fight, you know, the old regime, they,

then he fought it out, got it into the theaters. And they knew that it was, it was pandemic still, you know, so there was still. But once they got the kind of traction it did and the kind of reviews it did, it wasn't very long before they announced part two. Well, because in the movie, obviously this isn't law, but when it ends, it says June 2 coming. It's the end credit. Yeah. So that rarely happens, except for like across the movie.

Spider-verse. You know, I've never seen it happen where it doesn't happen. No. I hope, to answer your previous question, I really hope that this movie makes a billion dollars. It deserves to. This movie, to me, deserves to be as big as Avatar. It needs to be, it won't be, but it needs to be, and it should be. So why is that? Why is it that it won't do that? Because not everybody has... Okay, I'm just, let me use, like, you see this cast. There's not a bad person in this cast.

Right. Avatar. You got Sam Worthington. So what? He's not bad. He's not bad. He's not the people in the cast of Dune. Because Cameron's a magician.

Cameron has bigger star power than Deney. Yeah, but it's besides that. It's besides it. I'm saying... Avatar lends itself more to the families coming out and seeing it. And popcorn blockbuster. This is a blockbuster movie, but it is very... There are going to be people that...

Because the first half of it, because I saw somebody going, well I didn't like the stuff they did with the fremen you shouldn't see the second one because the second one is 75% of it is fremen right fremen you'll see it's where they end the move first movie yeah but so the and that part of it and they get into the politics of it they get into like there are some moments where they're just a prophecy

and how people like idolization and all these different themes that Frank Herbert covered in the book and the way that they bring it on screen and they get there and then they have and very similar to Godzilla minus one where Godzilla minus one would get you you know prep into the characters characters and boom big action scene same thing and like this I

I want to go see it again I really I want to go see it like I almost I almost stayed because there was in second screening a couple hours later and I was I can stay for the second one stay for it and I was like I can't damn yeah I my dad it's funny because I just rewatched the first one it's better than I remember what when it came out

it's one of I don't like rewatching movies that much I watched that movie like four times. Part of it was watching it with family members, but I loved it. Did you dad love it? I rewatched it the same week and my dad did. We didn't know he did it. And he's like, I really loved it. He's like, it is dense. It's slow, but it's worth it. Yes. Question for you. Do I need to watch the first one to see the second one? Yes. I'm joking. Oh, my.

But that's a good question. People will say that. And it's like, that's my point. They will, though, because this is, but this isn't a second movie. It's the second half of the first movie. That's it. I mean, here's the thing. I'll be honest about this. It is the first movie on my HBO Max watch list. And it's been there forever. And I just haven't. How could you, TV, by the way? Great TV. I got one of those 4K things. Don't brag. Don't brag. Don't break. Yeah. I think because part of you is like, well, I know two is coming out, I'll watch it right before I see two. That's cool. That's a good idea. It's been sitting there for two years. Yeah. That's a good idea for sure. Get your tickets now.

You really should. Because you should see an IMAX. I don't need to run out the opening weekend. I don't need that. You might change you too. You might change you too. I'll see it. I'll see it, but I'm not going opening weekend anymore. Doesn't IMAX only work in like two week rotations? But I don't think there's anything

coming? Coming. Because every time I do that, I miss it. That's not true. Kong versus Godzilla, which is, Kong and Godzilla, which is another Warner Bros. movie. When's that coming, though? The end of March. Oh, God. Another one of those things. And in March. Now, that's

the type of stuff. That's what I'm curious about, too, because Warner Brothers has to go against itself and the repeal. Why they do that? Well, June was supposed to come out in November. Yeah. Right. The smart push. What a smart to hold that. Well, they had to. They had to. But the only thing, though, the only reason why I was like a bummer

that it didn't make the November hit is because it would have been in the conversation. You think so? Oh, yeah. It would have been in the conversation. You think so? are performances that should be considered for acting roles. The cinematography, the score, the directing, this movie should be. Now, the problem is, because it's out in March, is that going to hinder it?

You know? You look at Air, which came out in April, and that got buried. Did Mad Max Fury Road come out in March? May. Yeah, came out in May. It's going to get able. Because I feel like that's similar in terms of cinematography and. Yeah, I know.

So, anyway, I cannot. cinematographer on this? It's not Deacons. I thought it was Deacons, because Deacons has done his other movies. You ever see interviews with him? I love watching him talk. Who? Didn't he or Deacons?

No. Deacons? Let's see. I'm going to do the cinematographer. He is so... Down to Earth. Greg Frazier. Oh, did he do Batman?

He did the Batman. Did he? Okay, let's see. Check that for me. Oh, that's cool. I think he did the Batman. Okay. So he's great.

He's absolutely fantastic. Yeah, he did the Batman. Yeah, I knew it. Now that movie, that's a, you want to talk about not being nominated for cinematography. That was some BS. Yeah. BS that movie. Anyway, so guys, we talked about Star Wars.

We talked about Dune. Are you excited for them? And do you, listen, like I said, in any one of our episodes, when we say things you don't agree, if you're still excited about stuff, please have the conversation with, obviously have it in a way that we want to have the conversation with you. Don't insult people. But if you want to have a conversation about it, Are you still excited about Star Wars?

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This is coming from Comic Book movie. Mark Cassidy, Universal Pictures had to scramble to find a new director for its upcoming Jurassic World movie after the recent departure of David Leach and the studio has now enlisted a filmmaker who has quite a bit of experience on creature features. According to The Hollywood Reporter, Rogue One,

a Star Wars story, and the creator director, Gareth Edwards, is in final negotiations to helm the film. As previously reported, David Kep, who penned the original 93 Jurassic Park and its sequel, Jurassic Park 2, is working on the script. Edward's first film was the acclaimed Monsters and he went to launch Legendaries Monsterverse

with 2014's Godzilla. Despite word only reaching us very recently, the project is already set to be deep in development. The studio might be even considering a 2025 release date. Plot details are still under wraps, but the movie will reportedly launch a new Jurassic era with an all-new storyline which would seem to indicate that Chris Pratt, Bryce Dallas Howard,

along with the original crew, Sam Nealard, and Jeff Goblin will not be returning. Frank Marshall, the veteran producer who oversaw the Jurassic World trilogy, is back on board, as is another Jurassic vet, Patrick Crowley. Spielberg is going to executive produce. Leach was in talks to direct in February before parting ways with the film just a day later. Apparently, it became clear to Leach that his creative input would be minimal

due to the project's fast-tracking status and how the producers wanted to wield a stronger hand after their experiences of Dominion. Dominion, Colin Travaro, is not involved. but he did share his ideas for a potential follow-up. He said the previous five films are plots about dinosaurs. This one is a story about characters in a world in which they coexist with dinosaurs. For the franchise to be able to move forward because it's inherently unfranchisable,

there probably should have been only one Jurassic Park. But if we're going to do it, how can I allow them to tell stories in a world in which dinosaurs exist as opposed to here's another reason why we're going to an island? All right. So let me start with you, Steph. Gareth, did you see the creator? You like it? I loved it.

I really liked it a lot. I really loved it. I liked that he used $70 million to make it look like it was $300 million. Right. This to me is what they should do with Jurassic Park. They won't. They're going to give it a $200 million budget, and they're going to overdo it again. And they're going to use the force.

$120 million with a... I love the idea of not bringing any of this expensive cast back. Bringing brand new people, let people cut their teeth on it. Put Glenn Powell in there. Right? Glenn Powell is somebody who's, I mean, well, I guess he's doing twisters now, too, but he's up and coming and probably doesn't cost that much yet. Yeah. But somebody like that.

Right. I just watched that rom-com with him. Any good? It was really good. His price just jumped with that one. It was true. Like, it's insane how much money it's making. He's out of the range of a lot of low budget now.

Right, low budget. I was shocked how actually funny and cute it was. Okay. Well, I'm going to check that out. But so overall, and Gareth Edwards is a guy that can get this done. Yes. What are your thoughts on all this? I think this is great.

I really like that Gareth Edwards came back swinging with the creator. I know that it didn't hit a lot for the critics. But I was reading the reviews, and a lot of people's issues were in the editing, which I found interesting. And not a bad point necessarily. So not really in the directing. But I'm excited about it. The last Jurassic Park was one of my least favorite movies ever that I've watched. The last one of your least favorites?

Yes. It was painful. It was terrible. It just wasn't for me. And so I think this is a great direction. I just watched the original. And I feel like if you can get that magic and how good that was, that would be awesome. Well, I'd like to see them go do something like, imagine the creator vibe, right?

But Jurassic Park. Sick. We're to the point right now. It's a franchise. It doesn't, you don't have to sell it. We talk about this all time with like who you need starwise to get in there. The dinosaurs sell the movie. Right.

That hit a billion. Yeah. It came close. Did it hit it? I think it's one of... All those movies make, they make a billion dollars, but they're just not good. No, right. Their last few of them have just been bad.

So if you take this down and take it, to put it, like, you know, a $120 million movie, really develop it. Give it a good story. And I haven't seen Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes yet, but like the way that the Planet of the Apes movies are, like, they're in depth. They're so good. They're so good. They're so good. Like, why can't they do a story inside of this world where the dinosaurs are running around?

It is, that's the world. That's what we somehow, nature found its way or whatever. And now the dinosaurs have to coexist with the humans and give us a full structure. Don't just give us the big popcorn in the face, dinosaurs. It's like, no more of that. It's like, let's get an actual, like, story here. Mike, you don't care. I literally have three jobs that depend on Jurassic World and the popularity of it.

Why? Why are we just milking the... There's the tip. Here's the dress of part. Steph just said it. They made a billion dollars last month. I get it. I get it, man.

We talk about these actors that are out there going. There's no creativity in Hollywood anymore. Executives are scared to do creative stuff and come up with new things. Like, you know what I'm going to tell you what this movie's going to be right now? First of all, I hate the fact

that they have set this date. It's already developed and they're just trying to find a guy to fill the slot to direct it. It's going to be they have trained these dinosaurs to work as military, like they drop them in, they clear out the area and terrorists, and it's gonna be they went wild, they went off the reservation,

they gotta send this crack SWAT team in, this military group to go in, black ops to take them out in Saudi Arabia or something. I guarantee it. I guarantee it. Watch this. That is the kind of direction of what the past movies have been leading to, right? Exactly, I'm telling you.

You're not, look, you're not wrong. Some big private military corporations, like these going for Congress, hey, let's stop. killing soldiers. Let's stop bringing veterans home in body bags. We're going to have the dinosaurs do it. That seems to be where they were going with it. And I'm telling you, I'm going to be on your page if they go that route. But I just, I have this hope. And I'm going to say this until blue in the face. I have this hope because these $300 million budget have not been working. Right.

That they're going to basically, I've always had this idea of like Terminator, right? Like Terminator. The first? No, the new one. If they do a new one, doing it like A-24. style. Because the first movie was a horror film. The first Terminator was a horror film. And doing it for like, you know, $70, 80 million, doing a, this type of budget they did for the creator for a Terminator film, like doing that. And I want to like see them implement that to the big franchises because the reason if you put into this big franchises, like I said, there are certain franchises that the franchise sells the movie, right? And if you scale it down, you can make more money, but they go, they're throwing the dart. They're throwing the dart. They're

throw in the dart at the billion dollar prize. Right. And it's like, stop aiming for that. Just aim to make a good movie and make money off of that. We talk about execs and not, you know, you're saying see the money. Like, I would look at

prey. Yeah. Great movie. People say that's the second best predator movie. And I'll bet it costs less than the first predator to make. Oh, yeah. Well, I don't know, just because of inflation and stuff. Take inflation out of the way. Terminator. If you made a Terminator, trying to mimic, you get a director that loves

the first term. I guarantee, it was a Tractonberg that did prey, I guarantee he loved Nick Tiernan's predator. Oh, right, right, right. I'll bet he loved it and go, I am going to make in the style that they did. You get a guy that wants to come and do a new action movie and says, I want to make another diehard

but I, give me 40, give me $50 million to do it. I mean, look at the first John Wick. Right, right. Stop, giving $4 million. Because I guarantee their directors out there that want a lower budget, just give me, me this amount of money, give me one name star. Right. I think that-

And I can do this for you and we'll nail it. I think it's like a, it's like a, you're, you're in this position if you're a director. And, you know, you said, what's my budget? And they go, are you got 100 billion? Like, can I have a 150? That's too much? All right. You know, it's like that happens all the time.

But I'm, but I think that the studios need to go, no, it's what you got. But if you watch back in the day, what I love, and they don't really do it anymore is the behind-the-scenes stuff on DVDs and Blu-rays. and they always say it's like was it necessity is the mother of all invention because if you don't have the money you have to find ways to do it like the thing the original thing like they didn't have shit money but they just had

we had to make it work I had to put some smoke to cover up this wire that was pulling a body out like now it's like now it's like we'll stick them in the volume and we can make whatever we want and it looks like shit it makes the creativity start to do right your creativity but look at Andor right andor is one of those movies one of those shows that had a bigger budget

than like Obi-Wan, which is crazy, but still, but they gave it, because of Tony Gilroy, but you said, all right, here's your budget, here's your locations, here's what we got to do, you have eight months to do it, go do it. Great. And you got, and you got a detailed actual story. The problem is that they get lazy with going, okay, well, we just, we know, like you said, the volume, the special effects, we know how to put this in there. It's formula, formula, formula, it's worked before, but the good news is that it's not working

now. The good news for us is that it's not working now is that they're going to realize that, are they just going to keep pumping forward. Well, if you listen to what the studio executives are saying, it seems like they've said, like, Egar is trying to pull back on stuff. Because there's only so many times you can do an Indiana Jones movie for $320 million, and then you get that kind of return.

I mean, look, the one that I actually, even though I use Indiana Jones, I think the one that should be used as the example is the last fast and furious movie. That movie, the movie made like $700 million. Pretty good, right? They make money, man. It costs $380 million to make.

it didn't make a profit. It didn't make a profit. Right. How do those movies make that much money still? When you're making over 500 million, Black Adam, Black Adam made like $480 million. It didn't make a profit. That's nuts.

You've got to stop doing that. You just aim, because they're billion nuts. Got to make a billion. Got to hit that billion dollar price. If you hit a billion, good for you. Avatar, I'll give Avatar a $200, $300 million budget. You know it's going to make its return. Right.

It's, yeah. Yeah, it's proven. And it's the same people involved. Yes, and what did that guy do? That freaking mad genius? He started shooting part three while he was shooting two. And so he's already got... He's already got stuff done for the next movie.

So it's like, it's crazy how they use these particular budgets. So I'm really hoping that with Gareth Edwards, what they do is that they know that he can work on a scaled budget. And look, we've given Gareth Edwards, myself included, some shit. You know, I'm like... And some shit, meaning that... that he didn't direct that thing fully. Rogue one, clearly he didn't, because he wasn't working for years. Now he's all over the place.

He's back. He was rumored for some Marvel stuff. He was rumored and he just did creator because I think the creator, even though it didn't do great in the box office, it showed what he can do. Right. Yeah. It showed. Like, you made that for 70 million dollars.

I think it goes, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. It kind of goes to this thing now with Madam Webb and someone posted the writer and go, look at his turns he did. six movies. It was like Morbius another one, but all the writers are coming to his defense going, hey, he wrote the script. Yeah. What happened two years

after it came out as not him. He got six movies made in less than 10 years. The screenwriter? The screenwriter. Right, Morbius? And he just did Adam Webb. But it's a script that, you know, the original script, what it was compared to what happened. Sure, right. Because look at the, I guess the bad guy, his

every line is 80-yard. The whole movie is. They just change what his script is? Who knows how many people came on board? But because of WGA rules, and he was credited, he gets the credit. I know. It's a little different. How many other writers come in and touch that?

It's harder for me, though, because the writers on Morbius and Madam Webb have been involved with a lot. Their greatest claim to fame is the first draft of the Power Rangers script or something. That's the same guy. Yeah, he did Power Rangers. But you don't know. Every one of his scripts got farted on. I mean, you go to his residence.

to me, it's not grand. But then why does he keep getting hired? Because, and this is we talked about this. It was all like, you wrote, Power Rangers, get out of here. So talking, no, because talking to someone who saw this happen, when I worked at Silver Pictures or Warner Brothers, what they do is, if you have,

so if you have a good, if I have a good relationship for you and you're a screenwriter, and I say, okay, I need a screenwriter to do some touch-ups on the script, and I got to get this thing done. I got Steph and I got Mike, I can call. Well, Steph wrote the Academy Award-winning thing, she wrote this, she wrote this,

Yeah, but she A is, she's expensive. She has a lot of feedback. She doesn't really play ball as much. She likes to do her, you know, her thing. It's always like a fight. It's going to take a while before his son. What about Mike? His credits aren't great.

Yeah, but Mike works real fast. Mike listens to the notes that we want. Mike get it done and he's cheap. All right, let's just get Mike. I saw that happen. A million. But then look at it. Get it with Edwards.

So taking off Rogue One, Creator doesn't do well, but he gets Jurassic Park. because they know what he can do, and they know the failures of those things were not his fault. I agree with that 100%. I think that, but I mean, I think that the Morbius writer in him is a different, but your point is taken.

I agree, because I think that he is in that position. Because he also, the other thing that he did very well with Rogue One, he played ball. Never spoke about it. Oh, yeah. Still hasn't. Barely.

Barely. He just kind of gives things to never spoke about it, played ball. You never hear anybody say a bad word about him. He never says a bad word about anybody else. So he just played ball and he took his time and then he got another gig. And now he's back in the spotlight again. So he's a very smart dude in the way that he's doing things.

So I think him in Jurassic Park, very good a choice. I just hope the studio, because he's been pushed, you know, bumped around by a studio before. Let's hope that he's able to kind of make the kind of movie he did a creator. What do you guys think? Do you think that he's the right choice? Go ahead and comment. Tell me what you think. As I've been telling you guys, I have now officially lost 19 pounds.

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Angela Bassett met with Lucasfilm for Star Wars role. This is what Miguel Fernandez, our buddy over at Star Wars Newsnet. Over the past couple of days, rumors have surfaced online concerning a possible meeting between Oscar-nominated actress Angela Bassett and Lucasville. It's coming from a paywall Patreon post by known insider Daniel Rickman, who says the two parties met to discuss a potential Star Wars role. No additional details were provided, so it's unknown. it is for a movie or a TV show.

I can tell you right away what I think of this. Though Richmond's track record outside of Star Wars has been pretty solid recently, we're taking this as a rumor for now, but let's assume that it's true and try to figure out what projects she might be eyed for. At this stage, it would make sense for Lucasfilm to start kicking the tires on Charmino Beach Inouye's upcoming film. That's exactly what I thought. As the script is advancing well,

it should be at a point where there might be comfortable meetings with actors for some roles. Since we know Daisy Ridley's Ray will be the anchor of the story, Though not necessarily the main protagonist, we might have experienced some of the younger members of the cast, perhaps her apprentice in the new Jedi Order to come first, but it also makes sense to start building the cast from top-building actors down, and that could imply a part by Angela Bassett. Another project about to enter pre-production is The Mandalorian and Grugu. But that feels like a project that will mostly involve characters from the Disney Plus 3 season series, rather than a substantial new part

of which they might feel inclined to write a big check. Also, long-shot possibility is Tycho a Titi's project. Come on, Miguel. Anyhow. Though the Jojo Rabbit filmmaker is knee-deep into Clara the Sun Prep, perhaps Lucasfilm wants to attach someone. He's just put in all possibilities,

but there's no way that happens. Another interesting possibility, Ackleit Season 2. We know that Leslie Headland's new series is coming on at Disney Plus this year, but when it's in post-production, her writer's room could have moved forward season two. And last but not least, she might be the star of a whole new series. Right now,

post and or season two, the schedule's open. We know Asoka's season two is coming, but with Floney, we might not get in, because he's busy, won't get something until 2026. Though the show has been delayed a number of times, there's a possibility it could be skeleton crew. What say you guys? Here, Angela Bass, I think if you're going to do an odds-on favorite, stuff, I'll start with you. If you're going to Vegas and I'm going to give you money to bet on, give you a thousand bucks, go bet on which role where are you putting that thousand bucks? I think the second season of, what's the... Acklight?

The second season of Acklight. I think you'd lose $1,000. Because you think... I'm never going to Vegas with you. Holy Christ, Jeff. Where are you going? $1,000. Where are you putting the money?

Well, first of all, the Ray movie. But I'm going to throw a side bit on there. I didn't want to go with the easy choice, you guys. How are you going to win a thousand bucks? You can't play Vegas that way. I don't bet. Yeah. I don't gamble on the saint.

Clearly. Listen, we can't be perfect. Someone would argue the opposite that because you're not a degenerate like the two of us. You're losing all your money. No, yeah, it's the movie. It's Angela Bassett. Angela Bassett, you would assume the movie. But look, I think the acolyte like,

is a great call. If you can get, if you can get her and see you. I would just, if you, I really answered of what I would like to see her more better. I think in a, if they do that show as well as I hope they do, like this darker tone show, she could just bring so much levity to it.

But they already have an insane cast for it. Yeah, they do. I just, Mike, so what are your thoughts on, on the, why of the right movie?

It just makes sense. It's a movie. It's a movie. It's Angela Bassett. Like, Hold on a second. We're talking Ackleight 2 already. I haven't seen a damn single frame of Ackleight 1.

Shut the up. Like that's what I'm talking about, Star Wars. I know he didn't say it. No, no, he did. The fact that Star Wars is the people involved are trying to talk. No, they didn't say that. Miguel was just saying it's possible that you'd do season 2. You just told our buddy Miguel to shut the F.

No. Is it in the halls of Star Wars? Are they talking Acklead 2 already? Mike thinks that he was reporting on the fact that Star Wars is talking about that. They're just saying because it's because it's already kind of gearing up and that they feel real good about it. Who feels real good? Probably Lucasville. So have they didn't

Dave. So he's speculating. Yeah. There's no official in that. Oh, come on now. That's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, you're putting that either. Can't be doing that. Okay. Well, I'll set up a phone call you. Please do. No, we love Miguel. I'm not a real nice guy. No, you're going after the Star Wars machine. Don't do that. I'm saying. Yeah. I, um, it's definitely the movie, if anything, which would be great. I,

Like everyone else, most people in the world, I'm a huge Angela Bassett fan. Yeah. Angela Bassett did the thing. Oh, she did? Okay, I was like, I never saw the thing. Have you never seen that clip? No. Oh.

Angela Bassett did the thing. You never saw that? No. What clip? Really? Arianna DeBose at the, at the, at the, uh, yes. Angela Bassett did the thing. Yeah, and everyone's like, um, are you talking about the, what, what, what, you can you?

Yeah, it's like a viral moment. Oh, yeah, that was hysterical. But I think. We overread that. She really meant like she is the it girl. She's done everything. She did the thing. She did the thing.

Really not a high charting resume. It's just she did the thing. Well, I will say that this is a take it to the bank. Throw down three grand that it's going to be the Ray movie. Because we're getting to a place. I couldn't agree with Miguel Moore. You already have a stacked cast for this whole Mandalorian universe. You're pulling from three different shows.

You got Rosario Dawson will probably be in. You got all this big time. You don't put any more money into that cast. Because you've got a big cast. Yes. This movie, the Ray movie, you're going to have to announce more cast. And you go, here's the big cast. Here's the main Padawan or whatever is going to be so-and-so.

Daisy Ridley, we know is already in the movie. And now we can make an announcement that Academy Award nominee, Angela Passett, also in the film. You're like, boom, big cast for the Ray movie. Right. That's a guarantee. And Academy Award nominee most recently for a Marvel movie. And so I think they see that and they're like, oh my gosh, she brought the house down in that performance. Yeah.

Yeah. So, I mean, the other thing I was going to ask is that with the Ackleit going back to that, do you guys find, it's a rumor that nobody really talks about it. But if you look for it, it's out there. Do you put any stock into this Canter Reeves going to be in the Ackleight? I was just thinking about that because between Keanu and Angela Vasta, I'm like, that would be just so fun for me. Yeah, I think it's definitely... You think he's going to play Revin? That would be amazing.

That'd be amazing. I don't know, but I would love that. My gosh, you've aged a decade since we started this show. Have I? Yeah. Why? Because you're just so stressed out about all the answers. Yeah.

Well, that's stressed out. You think, do you think Cano's going to be in this one? Ackle? I didn't even know there are rumors of that. He was going to be potentially Revin, which I think would be great. Where do these rumors come from? Where do they come from? A lot of times right now it's been Jeff Snyder, although I don't think that was it.

I don't think there was a Snyder one. I should ask Jeff Snyder. Hey, Siri, text Jeff Snyder. I'm going to tell you... Hold on. Oh, you're being serious here. Yo, come. I forgot to ask you this. Period. Do you think that Canter Reeves is going to be in the accolent? Question mark. I heard that there was going to be this rumor period

if your person knows of that I'd love to get that scoop Alright can I talk now Go ahead Jimmy It's how things like this work Because I was the other day Scrolls through some sites I go through And here it is

Almost official Pornhup Andy Mooshetti Out of Batman Braving the Bull Oh right right John Roka outlaw podcast I'm like oh Oh right right

I saw that So I talked to my friends The geek buddies like Hey man Roka knows stuff And they're like No he would have told us and our group chat if he knew about this. I go, so then why are sites saying that John Roker?

He did say that, though. But then it comes out, then Snyder's going, no, he's not. So that's where these things blow the fuck up because everyone wants the, and he's friends of ours, but they clicks like Keanu Reeves, has anyone seen him at Lucasfilm? Has anyone seen him down at Santa Clarita filming? No.

You're not wrong. Holy shit. There are a lot of times sometimes when people will, these rumors cannot. For no fucking reason. Well, it's not for no reason. It's like, no, man, I want to film Constantine too. I've been talking to James Gunn.

He's talking about Constantine. That's been said because he loves Constantine. He wants to go back. James Gunn has said, maybe, you know, the Constantine group. So that's a rumor that goes, but no one, because, why? Because he's a cool action hero that's got this kind of dark personality would play Revin?

No, the room. That's what just fitting in there? I think the rumor was because they had, there was, it was supposed to come out a bit. The rumors were that they did some reshoots. They added budget. They added some talent. And one of the talent that they added was Canter Reeves. Who said that, though?

Where's the rumors come from? Are we just... You can Google it from your phone. Shooting the ether out there? Like, I heard sources. I don't know how true it is. It's not, but like I said, it's one of those things that didn't have enough traction to where it's, you didn't even know about it. I'm going to give you a little traction right now for this podcast.

Go ahead, Bill. Here's where things happen where people say sources. All right, Josh. Sidney, what's the name? What's her name? Sidney-thew-thew-old. Literally just said it. Said she was a tour guide, Universal Studios.

Remember that whole hub-a-bub that she said, she went on the air saying, I was a tour guide. I still am a tour guide for all that time. Sure. She was never there. Not a Universal of Florida. Never there. Universal Hollywood. It would have Florida.

Does she say Hollywood? She's in Hollywood. The studio tour, she said she did. The studio tour. But she said the one in Hollywood. That's what she did. The studio tour here. Okay.

How did you know if she was in Florida? Because there is no studio tour in Hollywood. In Florida. In Florida. It's here. But you said Hollywood. Shut up. You know what I mean.

So then I have friends that still worked for the company. They went through all the records. Never found anything. Maybe she had a pseudonym. So hold on. So Holly reporting stuff, they try and back her up. And they said, well, we have sources that said that she was there and she trained for the first day and dropped out. And then they kind of put this TikToker that's a studio tour guide.

They kind of railroaded him trying to make him look bad. And then everyone came forward. Like, well, what are your sources? What are your sources? And they wouldn't come forward. Because there are no sources. People say, I got my sources. I checked my sources. Because it lets a blanket to cover their lie. Well, I can't give up my source. Deep throat. My source. I can't give them up. Like Watergate. Yeah. No. It's a bullshit idea that all of us in this circle, they like to pull my my sources. Well, back up with receipts. where they come from? These rumors bullshit

I saw Canada Reeves, my sources. You know what I like what you doing right now? What am I doing? You're taking a stance, Mike. I am. It's my soapbox. Taking a stance. I like it.

It's my soapbox. So, no, right here, Big Thing podcast, Sydney, Sweeney, never Universal Studios tour guide. I've got the facts from the people in the company that worked there that could have had there.

She could have gone through the orientation, which she said, that's different. Yeah. Because you make it through and there's like three stages. Are you going to tell me, Justin Marino never worked there?

And she sure did. She did. Okay. She was one of my trainers. Okay. 100%. All right. So don't test me on my tour guides.

Yeah. Many a famous tour guide have come through, but not sitting soon. Reno, good friend of the show. All right. Look, we had a good conversation here, guys, about a lot of different things. So thank you for joining us. As I said, if you can support the show and you have the means to do it, please consider one of our wonderful sponsors.

I'd like to thank both Steph and Mike. Start with Steph. Hi. Follow me at Steffs around the World Girls. 6 p.m. P.T. Wednesdays. Okay. Lewis? You got me hot today. You guys got me really worked up today. No, you just talked. I didn't want to

start my day like this. This is start my day. It's your own fault. You're bringing up Sydney, Sweeney, tour guide, it's your own fault. I'm trying to get you clicks on the get you up to $200,000. Oh, sure. That's going to happen. Sure. Probably never get her on the show ever again. Well, we could talk about the studio tour then. You love the movie she was just in.

Madam Webb? I didn't see it. Oh, you didn't see the Rom-com? No, I just know it did well. Oh, she was she was the mean. He didn't even know that. No, she was also in Madam Webb. Oh, I know. Oh, we know that. Because all those actors thought they were in the MCU.

She's great in the wrong call. Okay. All right. Well, it was a heated conversation. What do you guys think? Put it all in there. Let us know. We'll see you guys tomorrow with Roxy and Brett.

They're back. All right. Peace out. Great.