The Kristian Harloff Show - HOW MUCH?! Superman Legacy budget rumors addressed by James Gunn!

Episode Date: February 28, 2024

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Cummins is a registered trademark of Cummins, and Hemmy are registered trademarks of FCA, U.S. LLC. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the show. That's right. The Big Thing show. We got a lot to talk about, man. Yes. Two out of the three of us watched Bad Batch and we're all caught up. How about that? You can guess who didn't watch it. And I'm going to tell you that you're probably right. I'm at best. He's the best. And he's going to be in another Star Wars thing. That's right. I didn't know Angelica Houston was in Bad Batch. How about that? There's another movie coming out and it's called The Mets. Vandalorian and Grogu. And now we know that it's coming out whenever it's coming out, but we also are not shooting in Los Angeles. Is that bad news? I think it is. I'll talk about that.

Netflix is up in their prices again, and I don't think it'll make a lick a difference. I think they could charge $75 a month, and people are still going to stick with that service. So we'll discuss that and more. Hit that button. What does that button do? It's subscribe to the channel.

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Steph's a bra. Mike Callan asking Hold on a second I want to do I love your camera makes me look so tan There you go

Yeah Spicy white baby It's good to have you here Both you guys Okay so before the show Started taping Last night Last night what I did

I said okay I know people I know people want to hear us Talk about Bad Batch And we said we were going to get to it All right so here's what I did Last night or two nights ago Whatever I said guys

Bad Batch We got to watch it and I got a response and somebody watched it and somebody didn't I'm going to reveal the person who didn't watch it. Here we go. What a surprise.

Wait a second. I'm going back to these receipts here. What a surprise. Shut your mouth, stick. You're going to my second. Hold on. What a surprise. Let me see. And the crowd and I said you're a loser. Hold on a second. I'm going back here. Steph is a loser, isn't he? I mean you should have watched it. L loser.

Hold on. a second. Anyway, loser. All right, so Steph, we watched it, you and I. I'll tell you, the really good season so far. Yeah. Really good season. I really liked it. Yeah. You said nothing. You threw me under the bus with Miguel Fernandez. No, not in the group

text. He watched the show. And no, when he said, the group text came to watch it, there's no group text to watch it here. No, no, it's a separate text to you. Oh, separate text to you? No. I see you guys got a separate thing. Did I separate text to you? That's exactly right. Was it just to you? Yeah, exactly. Okay. So, exactly. Exactly

That makes sense Okay All right I stand corrected But that reminder Really helped me Oh sorry Mike

It was really good though It was It's darker Yes And they're actually telling a story And even I was like Worrie because the second episode I'm like here we go

We're stuck on a planet We have these new It's going to be side adventure It's not a side adventure They're all related to the overall plot and even the this one from last night like links back to the entire thing i thought it was i think it's it's really it's really good and it ties into the whole the cloning aspect and and how they're gonna look jj put them in a hole with the whole emperor palpatine returning but they're

i think they're they're doing what they what they can out of this thing yeah and then can we discuss something yeah we'll do spoilers we're gonna spoilers so mike doesn't matter he's i'm going to watch it Right. So the evil new guy who has all the funds from the empire. He said... He showed up at the end of season two. He said that she has the M count. So is she force sensitive?

Seems like she's got mid ofchlorians or something along the lines. Yeah. I think that that's why they're whatever Snoke, because they're going to use it for Snoke, I think. Yeah. And because all these other, it's not, nobody has it. So they've been trying to test and they finally, And I love that whole thing where they keep throwing the blood out.

And then finally, she gets tested. And it's like, oh, shit. Like, don't shoot it down. Like, there's. And then I didn't, who did you think was, did you think the emperor was going to show up? Or did you think it was going to be Vader? I thought it was going to be the emperor. Okay.

Yeah. The only reason I thought Vader is because there's a trailer, I guess, with Vader in it. Oh, okay. And I was like, oh, okay, this is when he shows up. And then the emperor gets off. I'm like, oh, man. And the fact that it's actually Ian McDermin is amazing. Yeah.

It's amazing. I did not know Angelica. of Houston was in this show. Wait, who is she? She's the queen in the second episode when Hunter and record go and basically ask for help about where to find. She's the queen. Oh, okay.

She's like taking her role from John Wick basically. Wait, that's so cool. I like that little scene. Yeah, I'm really liking the season so far. Me too. And I think it's one of the, it's the best start of a season so far, in Bad Bad Bad Bad because it's, like I said, it's got a full, it starts with the story and it's just carried on through the whole story.

So did you like the bad batch at all when you watched it? It would be like every fifth episode. I'd be like, man, if this show was this, this would be great. That I felt the same way about the show in the past. So far, they've stuck to, this is the story we're telling. And it's the full story all the way through. I think for me the problem was it just seemed like around that time with Star Wars, every single thing was the adult hero with the child.

that, Mandalorian, Obi-1 became that. It was just like, all right, I can't, is, okay. Yeah,

I agree with that. I'm out. But I think that she has, Omega has kind of come into her own this season. Okay. She's, I mean,

she's not like kind of that bumbling kid. She does, you know, I really like Omega. And Harry's actually watch, he never watched the other seasons.

Okay, and he watched this season. He's like, I like her about Omega. Because she's a cool character. She's really capable. I like what they're doing with her connection to all the animals too.

So that's interesting. Does he dig the show so far? Yeah. Yeah. And if someone who's watching it for the first time and just kind of, that's, that says a lot to you because I don't think you really need too much. Other than to understand their relationship. That and like Camino, what Camino was in general.

Right. And that's it. Yeah, I mean, there's definitely stuff that you pick up if you watch the other seasons. And even, even the relationship, like, I think one of the best moments actually is in the end of season four. Oh. What are you going to say? The end of this episode.

Episode four. Yeah, like actually kind of got me teary-eyed. Yeah, yeah. To see them all reunite. Yeah, so basically, again, spoilers for people who are seen it. They reunite because, what's his name? Bullseye? Not a close to the second.

I do know this about crosshair. Yeah. I've heard about this. He's got a redemption arc, huh? Yeah. But it's not. It was so slow. We just talked about that.

Remember we said this for the two seasons lead up? We're like, this motherfucker better not be redeemed. No, it's well, it depends on how it's, written. But you had a problem with everything we do in Star Wars, redemption arc. Yeah, but there's a different type of redemption, though. It's different when everybody goes to the dark side. He can go the dark side. This is

the kind of redemption arc I'm okay with because of the way that it's the way that they wrote it. I'm okay. The dark side. Yeah. I'm not saying the dark, I'm just saying redemption arc. Yeah, I don't know. To me it's always like, oh, they went to the dark side. Now they go back to the good side. And then it's

it's the same to, you know. Okay. Yeah. I mean, look, there's an argument to be made there. There's no doubt that they do it all the time, but I thought that this is, it's better than the Riva redemption arc. It's better than the Kylo Ren redemption arc. It's done well.

If it's written well and it's done well, it's part of Star Wars, it's just when you can see it coming a million miles away and it's not written well, this is, like, they didn't just like embrace. Like, they're giving each other the stink eye at the end of the episode. And, and even like, I love,

like he's got a great relationship with her. And you can tell that, the way, like, he's, he is still thinking the way that he does. It's just like, we gotta get the hell out of here. And she's like, you can go if you want. I got to do this. And he's like, well, I'm gonna leave. And then he realizes not.

I loved the imperial in this one. The overweight imperial. Yeah. It was just like, you know, just basically on his own riches and just a pure scumbag. But like, just a good, you could see him in, like, and or. Yeah, definitely. I like that they're not all the same. I just, they're not all going to want to just serve the empire.

A lot of them are serving because it serves that. Yeah. I thought, look, I agree. People were talking about this was a really good season so far. Absolutely. I did, it did take me a while to finally watch it or other things that I was watching. Then I was like, okay, I'll get to it. And I said, you know, I wanted to at least get to it by Wednesday so we can talk about it and say whether or not I like it or not.

And Steph and I watched it and we dug it, whether or not, you, you know, you, can catch up because they're only a half an hour really it is actually even if you're just doing laundry or something it's slow pace but in a good way i love i'm going to butcher her name's salmalu oh right right yeah she's great her voice is so sick yeah it's really good it's so cool and i like the the same and and the doctor's got a creepy voice too yeah you made your choice now i have all the assets from the empire and it's like jeez creepy anyway so i thought i throw Throw it to you guys. Are you watching this show? Do you like this show? Do you not care about it? We're going to stay with some Star Wars stuff.

All right, Star Wars News Net, everybody. The Mandalorian and Grogu will shoot in California for 92 days. Film gets one of state's largest tax credits ever. It's bad news all the way around. Not for largest tax credits. But the Mandalorian and Grogu is just a few months away from starting to shoot. And Disney Lucasfilm received a major boost in their financial prospects for the movie, which John Favre will direct. As broken down by deadline, the film will employ 500 crew members, 54 cast members, 3,500 background players

during its 92-day shoot to compensate for the job creation that the massive production will represent. The California government is giving back 21.755 million in tax credits when the largest sums ever for the Golden State. No actors have officially announced their return, though Pedro Viscal is expected to reprise a voice role, if not be on set at some point. Yeah, one-day shoot probably.

This will be the first time a Star Wars movie is fully shot in California. Glider report indicated that Lucasfilm is planning for a June start for the film. And if we take production's word, cameras would roll on June 17th of this year. On this year? Then why isn't it coming out next year? Anyway, 92-day shoot equals over 18, 18-5, oh. A 92-day shoot equals over 18-5-day weeks, which means the production is targeting a mid-October rap, four months in total. That's a long shoot, especially considering that previous seasons of Mandalorian have shot

about six months, and the final runtime of the footage should be three times larger than the feature films. We've also heard from Katie Sackoff that Favro and Faloni like to film much longer scenes to later trim down in the editing room and reach the fast pace we've seen on the final cut of episodes. But a feature film typically takes much longer to shoot. Think of the rise of Skywalker's six-month production, though we assume they'll be using the volume a lot. That's where I've got bumped. They may be thinking of shooting more outdoor scenes to achieve a more pristine, cinematic look than they can do in the volume. They will have plenty of time to edit and finish post-production on the film. The Mandalorian, the Mandalorian, and Grogo is not expected to

bow in theaters before 2026. All eyes will then turn under Daisy Ridley-led Star Wars movie from Charmino Bay Chanoi, which, if certain rumors already believed, regarding a meeting between Angela Bassett and Lucasfilm could be settling its cast in motion. Um, Okay, so here's my, the reason that I go, I don't know how this is like the best news, is what Miguel said. That was Miguel Fernandez, by the way. But at the end of that is the volume side of it. Because they're shooting in L.A. They're getting the tax credit because they know, we can shoot this cheaper.

We'll shoot everything in the volume. We'll get a tax credit for it. We'll save some money. Bob will be happy. We can, the budget side of it, where when you look at like Gladiator 2 costs in 300 million, and then there's a Joker 2, which is costing over 200. million or more, whatever it is, like, you're going to scale back, you're going to make a cheaper one?

Okay. But the volume thing scares me, because I just think of the Benny Hill scene from, from Obi-Wan, and Leah's running through the woods and flees chasing her, and they still, for some reason, thought that was a good idea to keep in. And it looked so fake. It looked so terrible. So I wonder, I don't know, man. But they say, Miguel hints that maybe they're not.

some locations that could be used. What do you think, Steph? Does it concern you at all that it's L.A.? Or am I making, you know, nothing out of this? No, I think it does. It's hard because we just saw Andor, and I think why it looked so much better is because it's on location.

And I just been watching movies lately where, like, I just saw Troy and you see, like, so much of it's all. It's just, it looks so much different to see real people on a real set. And so there's a way that they can do. obviously there's episodes on the volume that I love and I can't really tell the difference necessarily and it looks really good but I think when you're over utilizing it I get concerned

and then I just saw do you watch The Last Airbender? Not yet. Okay well just not talking about the show but just shots in the show there's villages where they show and you know lately my problem with Mandalorian is that they have these villages of people that have like 20 people right and it just to me you can't cost on that because Then I'm like, okay, it's a village of 20 people. Are you guys incessually having children? This doesn't even make sense.

It takes me out of it. Yeah. You know, with the movie, they're going to be able to do more. But you look at something like House of the Dragon. House of the Dragon used the volume. But you can even tell when they did it. And they didn't do it all the time. They did it sometimes.

The first season of Mandalorian did it pretty well. It just makes me nervous that they're doing it. LA because they have because they have the volume there Mike I know that you're definitely concerned about this my first thing was like I love that they're shooting in LA for the the keeping the production yeah because LA is one of the most expensive cities in the world to live to shoot in do a town built down entertainment and yet to make it impossible to shoot here yeah that's why everyone goes anywhere but I heard Favreau won't shoot outside of LA oh really

that that was someone said like he will not shoot outside of L.A. anymore he wants me here with his family and everything but anyway yeah when I heard that as like Okay, it's going to look like a soundstage movie. Like, yeah. As L.A., like for television, we've got so many locations. You can make L.A. look, downtown L.A. look like New York or big cities. We've got desert.

We've got mountains. We've got snow. But I don't know if that leans itself to Star Wars. I mean, look, they, I mean, well, wait a minute. But it's location-wise. They're saying they're shooting in L.A. They're not saying they're shooting in California. California, we've got diverse landscapes.

Right. Right. But they said they're shooting in L.A. They said L.A. I thought he said L.A. Hold on. That's a double check. Because that's a great, that's a great point.

Yeah, that is. It's a great point. Like, you upstate New York, I mean, Redwood Forest for Return of the Jedi. No, it says California. Okay. So it says California for 92 days. So that's, I may be. Look, now look, I have no problem with them shooting in California.

My thing is, even, I don't have a problem with them shooting in L.A. Because you look at what Robert Rodriguez did when he put it on set. My concern is that they're going to get so relaxed. Lion on, well, we have the volume right there. We can just put every, we can shoot everything there. It'll look great. We can make it look even better. Look what we did for, like, Lion King. Look what we did for Mandalorian.

That's what makes me nervous. Yeah, someone made a good point they were talking about the other day. It's like the actors, you can tell they've only got like five feet to move. Yeah. I think for Mandelori, maybe for season one where it works, especially it works so good for the ship cockpits. I think that works. Yeah.

Incredible. For sure. And a couple scenes where you're coming out of ships like Mandalorian and that's season one, the episode where he came out of his ship and you couldn't tell. It was just him walking. on like a conveyor belt. But when you've got action that's happening in it, like... The Boba Fett looked real bad.

Yeah. So... I'm not that not in the Mandalorian in the actual show Boba Fett. Yeah. Just didn't look good. But so I'm, I mean, I'm not saying don't use the volume because I think it's an amazing tool. Totally. I just think don't get reliant on it.

Like there's times, like you're right, like the spaceship stuff, the, it looks... Cockpit. I would much rather them do that because it looks the way that that's all set up. And like, I just, if they have a thing with, they're like, no, let's actually shoot that on location. Let's do that here. If there's some things, it's just, yeah, it's a matter of being relying on it. I have a feeling it's going to be like any tool in special effects.

Like after Jurassic Park in the mid-90s when CGI was coming up, like, every movie had to CGI everything. Right. And 3D when that all went down. Yes, but now they're like, we'll use it sparingly. We're not going to make our movie ridiculous with CGI.I so everything that looks ridiculous. And it's just another tool in their arsenal that they use sparingly. I think for the TV shows that, make sense.

Yeah. Because it's time consuming. TV shows you're on a much quicker turnaround. Budget. Yeah. But for a film. I know. I don't know.

I know. I'm hoping that the blend is right. I'm hoping it's 70, 30. 70 on the location side of it, 30 on the volume. It won't be. No. I'd be curious. I'd be curious what the sequel trilogy, what their, and I don't think the volume wasn't

available then, but like what portion of on set versus. soundstage work because all three of those films, whether you love them or hate him, had an incredible feel. They had that massive, big budget movie feel. Sure. Even solo. Even solo did. You wanted to have that for sure.

And look, it's a Star Wars movie. And it's the first Star Wars movie since Rides a Skywalker. You can't feel like, oh, it's a... Okay, I'll say this. I remember seeing parts of the movie, like, Sex and the City of the Movie. Yeah. Did it feel... All shot in the volume, by the way.

It did it feel like, oh, they got a little more money, but it's a longer episode of the TV show. Yeah. I'll tell you this. Do you watch Power Rangers? Mm-hmm. The original TV show, the shitty TV show. Long time ago.

But when that movie came out, you're just like, oh, my God, this is incredible because they were on location in Australia, their sets, better costumes, it just looked. You just don't want it to seem like an extended episode of the show. Right. I don't want to go, oh, it's a two-and-half-hour episode of what I can see on Disney Plus. Right. It's got to feel like a movie. I agree. I think it does. And I think the way that you do that besides just the film and the bigger budget is you got to do locations. Are you guys with us? Are you against us? What do you think? Put the comments in there. Do you think that having it in California will make them rely on the volume? Do you not care if there are volume? What do you think the percentage should be? Let's give a percentage to what it actually will be. I think it's going to be around 65.

Yeah, I would say around 6535. Is that right math? Yeah, I think that's right math. 6535 for volume over locations. What do you think? I think 20% location, 80% volume. Wow. I'm going to say 85% volume and soundstage.

They're going to do 15% second unit location stuff. I'll bet. I think you guys are right, but I don't want to go that. I'll bet there's never the full first unit on location. anywhere. Especially Pat, Pedro. He ain't going to be on location anywhere. He's going to Zoom call his lines.

And for a couple scenes where his helmets off with Grogu, they're on the volume. He's not going to be there. And if he is, it's like one day shoot when he's, when he's in between Last of Us and Fantastic Four? When's they're going to be available to do it? And they're shooting. That's the other thing they said.

So this is the strange thing. And maybe Miguel can clarify, and he can even, you shoot me a DM. Miguel, let me know. but like the way this report seems that they're shooting in June of this year. That's what's I like. So if it's usually only takes about a year or so, you know, but I guess because they're shooting it's because there's going to be so much volume and effects.

Well, he did say it's going to be a longer shoot, right? Yeah, six months or something. I mean, yeah, well, I guess the answer is this. If they wanted to, they could have this movie ready by December of 2024, right? But don't, no, or 2025. Okay. December 2025. Yeah.

But the problem is, we've talked about this. Avatar. So if Avatar wasn't there, then they probably would, it said, look, we don't, listen, they go, we don't need. Because if they're like, okay, when can you guys get this out? Realistically, we can have it ready by December 2025, but you got Avatar there, so we'll go for May. That to me makes more sense. It's probably what it is. Yeah.

What is the eventuality that Avatar moves? No. Every date it's moved, but every date they've said they've moved. Not for the new one. That was for the second one. The second one, but it wasn't like a pandemic thing because they were pretty much done. They're like, yeah, we need a little more time. We're going to go whenever.

But they already filmed. They've already filmed a lot of three. No, that's what I mean. That's what I was saying. There wasn't a lot. Yeah, this is. I'm not saying it is, but I'm saying it could move. Possibly, but I think it's going to stick.

I think because they know, especially now. And they were unsure, even though they were probably confident that it was a James Cameron movie, they were unsure, like everyone else was, like how that movie was going to do, right? Yeah, they didn't know how the younger generation was going to react to it because they weren't even around when the first one came out. What's so crazy about that is when I remember, were you at D23 with me when they showed? No. So they showed the avatar footage. Way of water?

Yeah. And they put like glasses on everybody too. And I remember everybody thinking it looked great, but it was the least excited out of the entire thing, everything they showed. It was people like, oh, yeah, the avatar stuff was cool. But you would have never left that experience going, that's going to be the biggest movie of the year, one of the biggest movies of all time. I was excited for it because I love those movies,

and you probably would have been pumped. But I'm telling you that it's so strange. You're not going to move that movie, though, because only because the movie did make so much money. It made so much that they're like, they need that win, plus, and then they push Star Wars to May and then December. But they better have, because Mandalorian, if that movie doesn't do well, it will.

But if it doesn't, if it doesn't do well, that Ray movie is going to be in serious trouble. Yeah. Yeah, the Mandalorian's lucky, though, because they do have the kids. Yeah. The kids love Mandalorian and Grogu. And Grogu. And Grogu. Yeah.

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one which he adds to hashtag Star Wars, Jarger, Brinks, Activision Jedi Sith Lord, Killar and Beck. Keller and Beck was the Jedi Knight that Best was seen saving Grogu from Order 66 in a flashback scene from the third season of Mandalorian. Oh, that's when it was. That was Obi-Wi-Wan. Who the Sith Lord is that he's referring to is not known. The inclusion of Call of Duty developers Activision as a tag has quickly led to speculation that the filming is for a video game,

be it an unannounced project or additional content for an existing game like the Duty franchise. Respunge Jedi Fall in Order and its sequel's Jedi Survivor have re-sparked interest in the franchise gaming potential, and Activision has some past history with the franchise. The franchise has collaborations with non-activision titles in recent times, including the likes of Minecraft, Roblox, Brawlah, and Rocket League. Meanwhile, the original Star Wars Battlefront games are being released in a new collection later this year with new content and online multiplayer. Ubisoft also has Star Wars outlaws due later this year. I think it's definitely a video game, but didn't they say that there's supposed to be a Mandalorian video game?

I thought I heard that there was something like a man. I thought there was a Mandalorian video game, and I totally forgot. You know what I realized, though, too? What's that? When I said that, did you guys remember that it was Mandalorian season three? No, I thought it was over and two. I thought he dealt with Reva.

And then I realized When they said that, I was like, that's exactly right. It was, it was Grogo. He's the one of rescued him. But when they say it,

I remember it right away, but it's just like, they all kind of blend together. Yeah, they do. Yeah. Because it's every week and on top of each other and all looks the same.

It's just, and again, it's the problem. The problem right now is I was thinking about this, because I had a conversation, when we did it, we did our live show with Groka the other day, and one of our,

one of the great supporters of all the channels we've had, Tim Sim, wrote a thing and we all agreed, Tim, myself, Roka, that Star Wars films are in a rough place right now. That's why they need one of these movies to hit because they're just in bad shape. Now, Tim was on a different side when it came to TV. He thought TV was flourishing and TV was doing really well. I don't feel that way. And I said as much on the show because I think that when you look at a moment like this,

That Ahmed Best moment was awesome. It was a great moment. There's a lot of great moments in the television shows. There's a lot of really great episodes here and there. But, like, as a whole, like, there's not the only show I think that was great. Well, Manorian Season 1, I thought was pretty great. Two was really good. And Andor was obviously great.

Those are the three that I say are great. Soka to me is almost like one of those movies that I watched. And I go, I really thought I liked it more when I saw it. And it gets, like, forgettable, the more I think about it. Obi-1 was such a lost, missed opportunity and badly written. And Asoka was fairly badly written. That's when you were talking about before. It's like, it's a good writing will get you that moment.

So I don't know, Steph. Am I nuts with these moments? No, no, I completely agree. I really loved Obi-1 when I was watching it. But it's the same thing where I'm like, there's a few episodes. where I'm like, yeah, those were great to me and we'll maintain that. And then, but the overarching feeling I have is I don't feel like going back to it yet. But I, but who knows?

It might change because I will say lately I've been like hankering for. A new thing, right? A new Star Wars? Well, that, yeah, because Bad Batch was actually good, little tickle for me. Yeah, yeah. This is good. But I wanted to see Force Awakens again, actually. Oh, okay.

Well, you know what's- But then I'm scared. what you always say, you know what's going to happen. You just know what's coming next. You know, what's funny is that I think it's telling. You never talk about Asoka. Yeah. You never talk about that show.

I know. She's your favorite character. Yeah. You were waiting for her to show up. And it's just kind of like, and you, when you watch it, you, because it was during the strike, so you didn't really talk about it with us weekly. But I didn't even text you about it. No.

That's crazy. Ghosted me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It was, it just, yeah, I think it was a mixture of Assova being my favorite character and rebels being my favorite animated show. Yeah, right.

And it just, you were the target audience for you. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it just didn't, it seemed, it was like a good, it was like, it was, it just didn't have a lot, too many calories. Right? Yeah. Too many calories. I, I just didn't like the story told.

Yeah. I guess at the end of the day. Yeah. I think that's what it is. But I'm at best coming back for, I think a game is great. They need to get their game division right now is kind of non-existent. And they have these other things coming up. So they definitely need a good boost.

And I'm so glad that I will say, and spinning it to the positive side of it, I am very happy to see that both he and Hayden Christensen are getting the love now. Because this guy was just brutalized. Not his fault. Not his fault. And brutalized. And he was brutalized before there was even. social media. Can you imagine?

Right. Can you imagine? The power of that. Oh, my God. And so now, luckily enough, those people that would be tweeting at him grew up with him, so they love him. But those people, if they got the movies now, would be going after him on Twitter. But I think a game is cool. Yeah. And it could be, he could be saying

Jar Jar Jor Binks, but it could be throwing us off, and it could be a Mandalorian Grogu game. Yeah, it could be. And then him just a bigger role in it or just one role in it. Yep. Yep. So we'll say, I mean, how do you guys feel about Amet returning to Star Wars getting excited about it? What do you also think about what we're talking about TV? Where do you stand on the TV shows with Star Wars? Do you think that they're been pretty good? You like what they're doing with them?

You think keep on going because you're doing nothing wrong? Or do you feel the way we did it? The writing needs to get a little bit better. It also shows, I guess, the accolade because Amanda Lestinberg was talking about the show and they were talking about excitement, which is, good because it means that we're going to start hearing more stuff about the act like it apparently comes out in june is what they said apparently yeah no trailer yet when do you think we're getting a trailer for that one okay it's march the end of march maybe you think i think you i think you're right i think i think i think march is a good could be a good time to get that and if it is june i think it's yeah i think they said june end of june which is great um yeah that would be awesome that is such I heard the comments, I think, from Kathleen Kennedy about that show, which is like, well, they want to see how the time period is going to do we don't explore this far back.

What I'm worried about, I think it's a right way to look at it, honestly. It's like, let's see how it does. But what I'm worried about is if it doesn't do well, they're like, oh, no one cares about that time period. What if the show's just not done well? What if you don't care about the characters? Don't take it as far as the time period goes. far as like how it's shot. If it's a really well shot show, really well directed, really well acted, and people aren't watching it because, and the feedback is, I don't care about anybody in this

time period. I don't care about this time period. Then maybe there's some merit to it. But the other side of it is, it crushes. It does really, really well. It's the best Star Wars show that's put out there. And everybody wants to start making stories in that time period. That's my hope. Yeah. That's my fingers crossed. I'm still, I'm still, I'm still, excited for the show because of the time period side of it. Me too. Hopefully it'll be like arcane where they threw it out there thinking no one would care about it. I love that show. And then it's like the best show in so long.

Season two comes out this year. Oh my God. Oh my god. It's gonna be killer. You still watch that, huh? No. It's so good. It's animated. Yeah. It's really good. What's it about? Oh, it's too, it's too complicated. It's a good pitch. No. But it's just too, I should say it's too, it's too dense to start saying the whole whole thing here, but it's really, it's, I can't remember who recommended it to me.

You know what? You have to give it the full three episodes and then it'll be like someone kicked your balls in a nice way. Yeah. Oh, man. Mm-hmm. A good ball kick. I'm just at a point, I guess.

I just want to be excited for Star Wars again. I know. I'm not excited for the acolyte. I'm not. Yeah, I understand that. Because I'm like. Yeah. I get that.

You've been let down too many times. Not even to let down. It was just... Fine. It's fine. Yeah. It's like pizza. It's never going to be bad.

Sometimes it's going to be like, yeah, that was... That was dough with cheese and sauce. And you want to talk about great pizza? Let's talk about Dune Part 2. We're back on this? Yeah, because it goes... I haven't seen it yet. It goes back.

No one has yet. You guys haven't seen it except me. This weekend. But what I'm talking about is what you just brought up. And I want to go at that point is that like, right now I'm on... Like, I'm hoping. I'm hoping that someone in a Lucasfilm goes, all right, maybe just stick into the old. It's just for kids thing.

It isn't really what we should be doing. We should try to take a more mature approach to this thing. And they won't. But make a few like this, because this is just, this is classic, dude, I'm telling you, this is some of the best science fiction storytelling ever. I'm going to say something. I'm in the geist of whatever, you know, movies and whatnot. But Godzilla, minus one.

I had no desire to see that movie until the hype took over. And then I was like, I hope it lives up to it. Dune is the same thing. Like, the first one's been on my thing forever. I love every member in that cast. My history with June is the movie and then the sci-fi series

with McAvoy. And I was like, well, it's not really for me, but the hype for this movie and what I was saying, I'm tempered because I don't want to be let down. But I want to feel the way about Star Wars. I know. I know, but I think,

highest rated IMDB movie ever. Dune? I'm telling you, I'm telling you, this movie, like, and I've, I'm, I related to all this, everything you just said just then, because I remember back in, it came out in 84, it was right after Return the Jedi, and I remember going, oh, another science fiction thing. And then you see it, you're like, the hell is this? What the hell is this? I was a kid.

Still, you couldn't follow it. And even if you go back to watch it now, it's really, really dated. The Bowie one? Yeah. Not Bowie. Bowie. No, Sting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He plays. One did Bowie do? Labrador. Oh, yeah. Those are like the same to me. Oh, no. No, no, no.

But I know. Same era, but like, but I can, but you can follow what the hell's going on in Labrith. And in the other June, have you seen the original June? No, no, no. You don't need to. So it's just, it's, yeah, it's, it's just not, especially after seeing what they do. And this is like, Dune 1 and June 2 are, really, it's like a five and a half, six hour

film when you watch both of them. The Dune, 1984. is trying to put all of that information in a two hour and 15 minute movie. Yeah. And it's just very hard to do. But to go off your point, Mike, like I was sitting there going, I'm, when I was, it was a press screening. And there was, I don't know, 25 people in the room, maybe 30.

And the hype, I felt like I was going to see the Force Awakens. Like, I was like, I'm sitting there going, wow, I could feel the energy in this room. Interesting. For this film. And watching it, I was just, I was just transplant. I was there. I was like there watching. I didn't even see it in IMAX.

And I was there. And I'm like, I haven't felt like that for Star Wars in a really long time because, and I am on the side of it because I just constantly get disappointed in it going, oh, there's so many, like they're the fan films sometimes. When you look at the fan films, it's like they seem like they get it better than what's going on at Lucas film. I mean, and I'm the same way across the board. Yeah.

MCU, even DC to extent. DC bought itself some time because I knew we're rebooting and I knew it's going to be a couple years and I will feel that excitement again. Marvel, I'm like, I'm not excited for any like the Fantastic Four news casting was nice. I'm not a hype for Deadpool 3. I know everyone is. I know everyone in the world is. The trailer didn't do anything. Like the trailer for me, if they wouldn't have leaked everything and people taking picture of everything and we saw Wolverine over him, standing over him in that fire shot.

I know it's not. I know it's not. But. Yeah, that's such a bummer. Oh, my God. That one, so for me, the trailer, they shouldn't have done that because it's like, I know what you're trying to do here. We all have seen the yellow costume.

It's not going to, it doesn't do the hit you did. So for me, the trailer was just kind of like, eh, whatever. Yeah, look, I want to see Deadpool very much so. I know you do. I'm pumped for it. But I understand it because it's like, look, it's the same thing you said beforehand, Mike, with when there's so much stuff coming out. Marvel had stuff coming out, though, once, twice a year, and the hype was there.

It's just a quality. You look forward to it. But the quality started to dip. And I think streaming and putting all the TV shows then really just... He was spread to... Maybe Figu's spread too thin and Favreau and Follone are spread too thin. I don't know. Yeah, the spread too thin part of it, Favre and Follone, they're not as involved.

It's not... Like I said, I like Follone a lot, and I think that at least they have someone now that is actually paying attention to the overall through line. my problem with felonies is I think that phelonies too caught up in the old kind of george lucas way of things and i don't mean just the the story side of it because george looks is the greatest storyteller of all time one of them and the way crafting the actual story itself absolutely but when you when you're trying to do the faster quicker more intense thing and you're letting the dialogue be sacrificed and and certain things that like you look at

asoka there's certain things of soka that it's like it's just like i said it's just bad writing like really bad writing. And that's the type of stuff that makes me nervous. When you then compare it to like a what, and this is hilarious because De Neville Nouve, who I think captures dialogue incredibly in Dune, comes out with a statement. I know.

I love that statement. Good for him. I hate dialogue. Good for him. He goes, I hate dialogue. If it was up to me, I never do dialogue ever again. I would just concentrate on the visuals. Good for him.

But he gets a pass for me because he does dialogue extraordinarily well. It's like Scorsese. I did this Twitter. comment. I don't know if you saw it, where I was like, oh, the film, Twitter's going, now we're going to turn on him, just like they did Scorsese and Ridley Scott and everybody. These guys have earned the right to say stuff like that, and they're filmmakers.

And I mean, hey, he's not wrong. You see Silent Night with John Wu? Great movie, fun movie. Okay. I think it was a little bit, about 20 years too late because of John Wick and everything. If he had made that movie 15 years ago, it would have hit much better. Yeah. But we'd seen it all, and John Wick,

it's John Wick without dialogue. And even those as though there's so sparse dialogue. It's like... Right. But it's John Wu, so he gets a pass for me. And it's not 1998. Right.

Yeah, yeah. But I'm with you. I want to be as excited. And that's what I hope. I hope, because Ackleite, by the way, as we go back into what we were talking about earlier in the show, Ackleight is, from what they say, a lot of real location stuff.

I know. And not a lot of volume stuff. I know. So if they, and end, the rumors also that they're close to hour-long episodes. If these are close to hour-long episodes, eight episodes on location with a Game of Thrones type feel. Then maybe they turn it around and you're like, whoa, holy.

This is Andor and the accolade. They've got gold right now. And then they put out Mandalorian and Grogoo kick ass with that one. They can get back on track fast. They can do it. The question is, are they going to stay in that same mindset of what they've been doing? Time will tell. What do you guys think as far as Dune goes?

How many people? are excited for Dune. How many people are going to see it this weekend? We're going to do a full episode tomorrow with Roxy, myself and Brett, about whether or not we think it can hit a billion dollars. Yeah, go ahead. I'm just so curious. I just, like, someone Scott shot a screenshot of like the four AMC theaters and their mopped out. I was like, yeah. And the Flash was that on opening weekend too, like the opening night. What do you mean? No, it wasn't. It wasn't. Flash? If you would have taken a, if you would have taken a screenshot of like on the AMCA list of the four big AMC theaters, you would get a. You would get a

sold out. Like, these are the people going this weekend that are the diehard Dune fans. You've got to get the people two, three weeks from now that are like, I've heard everything about this. I'm in that middle group. Like, I love movies. I would see it eventually, but I'm not going to rush out opening weekend to see it.

But I'm getting more and more hyped about it. When are you going to watch it first? After this weekend. I've been doing some studying stuff I had to do. Okay. Not for this mode now. No, but very similar. I felt like it again. It's a job. Oh, okay. But last night I had my notes out on the script and she's like,

what are you doing? Look at you. You're already taking notes on this movie and you're pausing it and I was like, I know. She's like, you're back in the showdown again. I was like, I know. I was like, Jurassic, there's eight dinosaurs that they started with and I'm like fuck. I hope the job works out. All right, throw your comments in there and let us know what you think.

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And Steph, you watched the last airbender. Yes. How many are you into so far? I finished it. You finished? How many episodes was it? Eight. Eight.

And thoughts? I liked it. Did you? Yes. It's not a one for one and I'm happy. Because you were nervous about it. Yes, I was. And I actually, kudos to the direction.

Because I think that I understand why they did what they did. A lot of it is getting, I'm excited. if there's a season two because it's setting it up for kind of a grander tale. But I really liked it. I feel bad for the people who don't. But I think if you were expecting a one-to-one, then, yeah, you'd be disappointed. Wouldn't you think you think I would dig it? I think so.

I think you should watch it with Vivi, maybe. She liked the animated series. Yeah. Because that one is one I'm going to start to watch. I was going to do reactions to it, but then I didn't have the time for it. And then I saw people just, it was kind of like back and forward. Yeah, I know, but I think a lot of the back and forth was the people who loved the animated series, which I did, but I just didn't have a problem with the changes. Yeah, the changes.

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All right. I'll have to, I will check it out. It's one of the things I want to check out. What's up? Patrick can ask me if I watched it? Hey, Mike, did you watch it? No. Just not for me.

I've tried the cartoon. Yeah, that's for me. Yeah, that's fine. That's why I didn't ask you. I, before I even do that, though, oh, I still want to finish true detective. I haven't finished true detective. But my next thing that I'm going to do is I'm going to finish,

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I want to move to Japan. Yeah. It's dark. People are comparing it's a Game of Thrones. Totally. That's what it's setting up for. It's just taking its time setting up the characters. And I didn't know who's going to be all in Japanese, basically.

Oh, is it really? Yeah. So that, like, that I think is why it's a little slower for me to, be like, okay, he's him, he's him. So I'm trying to. Yeah, but you're locked in. I'm locked in. Roka loved it, too.

Roker was raving about it. There's some scenes where I'm like, you guys are evil. Okay. All right, so it's Game of Thrones style. I was going to start watching out last night because I had, you told me about the trailer, and then Roka was raving about it. And then I saw all online, people were just saying this is like the best new show of the year.

Yeah. And people are loving this show. I think it is. Yeah. And then how about, I forget, do you guys watch the bear? Yes. Did you hear that? I didn't even know this.

You know, Bear season three is coming out this year now? No. Yeah, they announced it like the other day. It's like in June. What? Yeah, it's like dropping,

it's dropping this year. That House of the Dragon, like there's one other one that I can't remember what it was. It's something that I really want to see. But that's crazy that that show that, like I don't know which one I'm more excited at, The House of the Dragon or that one. Oh, yeah.

And then the Akelyte's the other one. Right. I think they're all in June. Really? I think so. Okay. I think so. That's great.

I could definitely be wrong about that, but I think that they're all come. You're always wrong, so. Yeah, well, it was wrong about you. I thought you were going to be good on this show. So let's keep going. See, that's how about Mike. He respects it. He respects it.

Can't make fun of yourself. What are you doing in life? 100%. All right. All right. Next one. Let's talk about inflated budgets. Oh, man.

Well, and when I say that, It's just rumors going around about the new Superman movie. Someone said that the movie costs a lot of money already, and people are talking about the actual budget itself. And the headline on comic book movie, a Superman legacy director James Gunn debunks a wild rumor about the movie's massive budget. Superman Legacy writer, director, and DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn

has laughed off crazy rumors about the reboot's budget and teases even more DCU announcements being somewhere on the horizon. Josh Wilding. Cameras will begin rolling on Superman Legacy any day now, and while we'd like to think that this means that set photos will offer a first look at the new man of steel, there's no guarantee. The excitement surrounding James Gunn's reboot is palpable, and the feature of the DCU may well hinge on the movie's success.

It's been a long time since moviegoers were treated to a truly great Superman adventure in theaters, so the hero could prove to be a tough sell. It's fortunate, then, that Warner Brothers Discovery, DC Studios are keeping the budget under control. There have been some wild rumors on social media lately that Superman legacy will cost over 364 million, million, making it one of the most expensive comic book movies ever. To that, Gunn recently said, absolutely not. How in the world do they think they know what our budget is? While we're guessing that Superman legacy won't be cheap,

the fact is it doesn't include any pricey A-list stars, and it'll help greatly when it comes to keeping costs under control. The most expensive DC movie to date is 2017's Justice League. The budget for that ballooned to upwards 300 million. But if you add in what it cost to finish the Snyder cut, the sum becomes truly eye-watering. In related news, another fan asked Gunn if more DCU projects were announced at this year's San Diego Comic-Con or during some sort of live stream. And James Gunn said those are only two options.

All right. So we have some news. The first list of about the budget. Yeah. So I think that this movie, because it's Superman, what I'd want to see, I'd want to see this movie made for $120 million. There's no world where that's going to happen. I'd say 200 million. So the thing is it'll probably cost 200 million.

And I get it. It's Superman. You're running with the IP and you need to go big. 200 should be the limit. You should not go over 200 million for this movie. What do you think, Steph? Yeah, I agree with you. I think most people are pretty much using Indiana Jones as the reference point of what not to do now.

So I don't know. I really trust James Gunn. I don't think that he's a person that overutilizes a budget. Right. What do you think, Mike? You think it's because you're a DC guy. Do you see? This movie needs to hit.

It's so tough. Like, the original article, like, no person knows the budget of this movie. Right. No one does. Right. But so it's all throwing things. It's clicks. You know, you hear that thing.

And again, on a movie, like, when you think about budget, like, I've, been a part of a movie where a friend of mine was a stunt guy coming on the movie. They flew in first class. Put them up in a four-star hotel. Like, that doesn't need to happen. You fly coach. You stay at the local holiday inn. But because unions and contracts,

that's where budgets come into. It's not just the effects on a movie. It's so much more. The catering. If they've got great catering, versus lobster thermidor on the set versus, you know, hamburgers and ribs. Right. There's so much. When you're talking budget

It's a great point. It's not brought up enough. Yeah. So that's like, that's where you like, they have no big star. I bet Corn Sweat didn't even make $100 million, or $1 million for this. No, no way. He's making probably $500,000 to $6.50 with options. With options for we will 100% increase you for two and three.

Depends on who his agent is. But I think you're right. But it depends on who's agent is if the agent is playing ball. Because the agent is a lot of time responsible for the budget going on. Yeah. I'll bet Brosnahan is making more than. him on this. I bet she's right. She should. Absolutely. She should. Yeah, she's absolutely. More recognizable name. And I'll bet her agent wanted her top billing. I'll bet

they pushed for it. And they're like, you're probably not wrong. He's making less than, but he's super and he's getting top billing. Yeah. She's a multi-emmy winner. Of course. She's the bigger star. She's, she's the more recognizable. 100%. But then, you know, the argument could be like, yeah, but it's Superman. Exactly. Right. Exactly. Yeah. So it's going to be, but the point is made. It's not the cast that's going to balloon this thing. Now the sequels, who knows? But they got to get to a place. I think a safe number for them to make money on this thing is

150 to 160. I was going to say 180. Yeah. I mean, that's probably where it's going to, it's going to hit that 180, 200 is probably what they're going to do. I just think a safe number is 150 because if you make 400 million on the thing, then at least you can you can pack up and go home. And what I like about Gun 2 is he, his money is on the screen. like when he makes a film you see the budget on the screen.

It's never like, even Guardians 1 would probably have a smaller budget. It looks great. I wonder what the budget was for Guardians 3, let's see. Not Guardian 3s. Look at Guardians 1.

Look at what they gave him for an unknown superhero film. The budget was $232 million for Guardians 1 and part 3 was 250. So he's used to use and Mike's not wrong where, what's going on there?

You're making good points. That's right, buddy. You didn't want me on the show. I know, but you're making good points. But he knows how to utilize his budget. He does. He knows how to use it. It's just, I'm also, I'm just in this spot right now.

It's so much so that every time a report comes out about movies' budgets, people are tagging me on X now because of it. Because I'm like, because the Gladiator 3 thing is ridiculous. Joker 2, ridiculous. So my point. Like the indie, indie, you know, three, was it 350 or whatever? 360. You know that film with. the money that they were spending for the cast and crew,

wherever they were, that balloon that thing up. Of course. And then you also have got Harrison Ford and other people inside of the... But that movie, though, was absolutely... You're not... Outside of the things that travel and all that catering, you're right.

But they also spent so much on big set pieces that Indiana Jones didn't need. Like big things, like that whole ending in the planes. is that that's like stuff out of a Marvel movie and that's in Indiana Jones and you know you don't you don't need that because Indiana Jones is the small the small scenes in the Last Crusade or the stuff that you remember

like this him in a cave with a night that's it that's the stuff you remember yeah and this this that stuff for what they did they just didn't use they didn't utilize the budget yeah so the other side of it is the announcements now Zavlov Zavlovzoloft said the same thing

on the the car that there's more stuff coming. I think this is dangerous. I think this is dangerous. I see what you're saying. Get Superman out first. I know what you're saying. Get Superman before you start making announcements

because if Superman eats it, your plans are going away. You're not wrong. All your plans are done if Superman bombs. You're not wrong. So, I mean, unless the, you know, some of the rumors were that some of the announcements were like the Supergirl cast.

And okay, that's fine. We've got Millie Alcock knowing that she's going to do it. So that's fine. But don't start announcing new movies unless it's Batman, because Batman is another proven IP. It's tough because this is Chapter 1 and he announced the 10 things. But then he said there's more that's coming in Chapter 1. So 10 things are a lot.

It's a lot. And we still don't know anything outside of the Supergirl, Creature Commandos. Or if anyone will care. Yeah. But also you're going to start announcing Batman stuff, and the The Batman 2 starts filming soon. So you're going to... I know, you're going to cross over and you've got Penguin coming out. It's tough.

I think that comes out this year. I think so. That's what I'm excited for. You want to talk a TV show who I'm excited for. Penguins are you kidding me? Yeah, for sure. Get out of here. That nonsense.

What do you think about the budget, about the announcements, all of it? Like I said, I just trust James Gunn, so I'm really excited to see what he does. I agree. I'm not into the huge announcement. before you actually pull out a few of them first. Like Star Wars. Right, because it's just, I mean, that's probably why we feel burned about it. But I think it's just not necessary.

And he's usually pretty, I don't know, he's such a showman. So I do trust it. Yeah. And then do you think that there's going to be any big announcements that you're excited for with D.C.? I don't know. I'm not as big into, yeah, the undercover character, the less popular characters, I should say. All right, I'm going to give you a less popular decision, then we're going to call it a day. Okay.

All right, I want to talk about this Netflix thing. Netflix is tipped to raise prices once again. Netflix is expected to once again raise its prices this year on its streaming plans in a bid to accelerate revenue and earnings for growth. That's the assessment from analysts at UBS Securities, who in a research note released today we expect to see rate increases this year. Combined with an increase in revenue from its ad-supported tier and subscriber gains, it's estimated that Netflix's total reference. revenue growth in 2024 will be 15% per analyst estimates up from less, 7% last year. Netflix last price hike was in October when its plan went from 999 to 1199 in the United States. And UK and France also saw price increases at the time.

The streamer hasn't announced any plans to increase subscriptions prices in 2024. UBS says structural changes in the streaming space recently are benefiting Netflix, from platform consolidation and content spending cuts to a renewed interest. in licensing, Netflix will reportedly benefit from studio shifting importance from subscriber growth to profitability. Netflix added 29.5 million new subscribers in 2023. They did a good year. And it's funny when people, everyone's like, oh, all these streamers are coming out, Netflix ain't going to be the champ anymore. They still are because Netflix is making these other moves. They had the SAG Awards on the other day, and they've got sporting

events. They've got to have WWE. That's what they got. The WWU is what they got. They got WWE, they had all these different things that you can, they're changing up their, their stuff. So with the announcement of WWE, with the announcement of all these things, I think a spike in it was common. I just feel like Netflix, because they always have, they have so much that people want to watch. I remember saying, because at one point I was like, I don't think I watch Netflix that much, enough to where I would care if I said, if I canceled it, and then got it back when I

wanted to see strangers, things, or something else. I pitched that in my household. You might as well said that I was going to unload 75, pounds of dog shit in my because they all looked to me like, are you crazy? Like my little one watches, whatever she watches on it. She watches a ton of Njago and all these other

things she watches. My oldest watches all these shows on Netflix. Like that Mindy Kaling show that was on for a little bit, she's watching that now. My wife watches tons of stuff. They all were like no, you're not getting rid of Netflix. So I was like, well, there you go. So Netflix could charge $20 a month and

people are going to pay for it. I don't think they're going to lose a lot of people. Am I wrong? No, I just, if I knew for a fact they were paying their writers and the staff, after the strikes, hopefully a little bit, yeah, according to plan, but I don't think it's, it's almost like they went up in that, so they have to go up in this. That's, that's exactly what it is. Yeah, so that's, I don't, that just sucks that we have to pay the price of it. That's, I mean, that's, that's what it, that's basically, that's what was said in the room.

It's like, it's like with fast food workers where they get a raise, and then the prices go up. It's the food. It makes sense. Yeah. It's like, if I'm running a business and I'm like, okay, look, they struck, we've got to pay them. How are we going to pay them? Only way we can we got to change our prices.

I find it's interesting. Netflix to me has kind of become like Disney or Orlando in the sense that this theme park. When you go to Orlando, Disney wants it to be like you don't go anywhere else. You get off that plane at MCO, they got shuttles taking it to the Disney property. Then you don't have to leave the property. Like Netflix is doing that. where it's like everything you want

we're going to have. Like for me, I love like the Grey Man, the Heart of Stone, which is the Galgado action movie. Like I just turned that on the other night. I've seen it three or four times. It's a cool action movie.

Mother with Jennifer Lopez. Wait, Greg. Harder Stone was Galgado. Grayman was... Grayman's the one. Ron Gosling and Chris Evans. I love it. So they're making things I love

that studios aren't making anymore. The $30 million action movie that's not an IP. So, but now the SAGA Awards, I'm not an awards guy anymore. It used to be, but SAGA Awards I watched. Yeah. And I enjoy it because I love that it's actors celebrating actors. But you also know you can fast forward through.

Yeah, it's on Netflix. I'll tell you. And I still think, and I think we had this conversation last time. And I don't know if Roxy agrees with me and disagrees with me, but we've had this many times over. The Oscars should be on streaming. Oh, absolutely. Every award shows should be on streaming. We're not in 1975 anymore.

Yeah. where people are just tuning into, you know, seven news stations, and then that's the one station that has the award show and this glamorized thing. There's 80 billion different type of things. Put it on a streaming service. You don't need to be on ABC. And what's interesting, too, in that, I think in that report it said, they gain subscribers. Disney's losing subscribers.

Disney Plus, they're losing every year. Disney's had a very different approach. It's crazy. I think in a wrong way, though, too, because Disney, and I'm not talking about whether or not, And it's the same way that I feel that the fandoms have been politicized, right? I think Disney took a stance in general. And I'm not saying whether you agree or disagree with their stance. I think that they've taken a stance with a lot of things inside of their programming.

And I think that what you're going to do is you're going to get people who are like, good, I'm sticking with you. I'm going to do it. That's because you're speaking my language. And you're going to get another people going, well, I don't really agree with the way that you're pushing this particular thing. So I'm going to move over here. And they're going to leave. But do you mean because, like, I look at all the streaming networks and, like, Disney, Willow, gone. Well, that is a bad.

Like, why would you do that, though? It was always bad? The first, I thought it got better. I thought it got better at one point. But then it just, it was bad. I thought the acting was pretty bad. It just wasn't a good show. It wasn't a good show.

There's been a couple not-so-great Marvel shows. They're still on there. Marvel's a more established brand than Willow. I just saw that the people that love the character. The film? I mean, the first film's not good. I like the first film. Come on now.

I had to watch it ad nauseam because of you many times. I like the first film. I like it. And I think that with a... You are a great swordsman. I think that if that... I think if that movie... A valcomer is fucking awesome.

I think if that movie was made with kind of today's budget the same way, it would be a very different kind of different film. So they took it off because it's not good? That's why they took it off? I mean, and the ratings are... I mean, they never said. No, I mean, the ratings weren't good.

But still, it's made. Why is it not just... I don't understand why they didn't leave it on. That's true. I get not a season two. Yeah, I don't get that. But why would you take it off?

I don't, that I don't understand. Is that embarrassed? Is it like a back girl where you're like, it's not that? No, it's not that. It's not that kind of bad.

Okay, so, yeah, so I don't know. I don't know the answer to your question, but I'm saying it's not that, like, if that was the reason, yeah. I'm like, why?

It's not good, but it's not enough to go, pull that, pull that immediately. It's not good. Okay. I don't know. I'm just asking.

There's other stuff on there that's just as bad that's still on there. I'd love to get. That's a great question. That never really happened. So I don't know. I don't know why that happened. I don't know. All right.

What say you guys, do you think of the Netflix subscriptions? Do you think that they're going to, would you just pay for it if it goes up? And don't just say no. Think about it. Because a lot of people, you make that kind of stance and go,

now. Last night when I saw it, I was like, I'm done. But now talking with you, of all the streaming ones, that's the one I go to. Right.

You'd probably cancel something else in order to pay the Netflix. I'd probably cancel Disney. Right, because you don't watch it enough, right? I don't watch it enough. I'll go and get it when I want to watch a couple. Of the shows. Right. And that's...

I don't watch Disney's Library at all. See, but my kids, that's the other one. With bluey and everything else going on. There's no chance that that one gets canceled. But that's what I'm talking about where there's certain things, I think Amazon, Apple, they're doing it. Well, there's a lot of different things still. that the whole game is changed.

Because you get Prime and the shipping. They keep raising that every year too. I don't like what they did Prime. I don't like what they did at all. The commercials? The commercials. Oh, I hate that. But I do, I agree.

We're paying like, what, $1.50, 60 a year? But from what I understand, I've been watching a lot, it's at the beginning of it. Yeah. They're not in the middle. No, pops up a couple times. No, I watched Reacher and I didn't see a commercial in it. I was watching Mr. Smith. It happened like two.

There was a couple times. During the episode. Uh-huh. I don't remember that. Yeah, they're at the beginning. Making that up, I don't know. You're making it up. You're so probably used to commercials.

Maybe, I don't know. Yeah. All right, Steph, where can they find you? At Steph Sabraa and the World Girls. Michael. At Mike Kellenowski. Thank you guys for joining us. As always, that one.

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