The Kristian Harloff Show - HUGE!! Are China and Russia ahead of US in UFO research?! New potential whistleblowers!

Episode Date: October 31, 2023

Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow Lots of big news this week in the UFO UAP phenomenon. Tim Burchett and others finally entered a classified briefing but Burchett felt he learned "absolutely nothing." However inside of the same meeting it seemed like there was some kind of confirmation that there are other technologies being developed. We discuss that with the new Speaker of The House, will the once denied UFO committee lead by Burchett actually happen now?  The most fascinating thing in this episode however is the interviews being held with over 30 ex-government officials who are all coming clean and some validating David Grusch and others  claims that there is indeed a UFO retrieval program. Russia and China have also had programs and have they had better luck breaching the HULL on some of these ships and are they further along than the United States? We cover this and look at some videos of supposed sightings on todays  UAP Tuesday big Thing with Kristian Harloff and Mark Reilly. #ufo #uap #sightings #government #committees #davidgrusch #russia #china 

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another UAP Tuesday. It's the big thing. Thanks for joining us here today. Tim Burchett, man, he looked disappointed when he came out of the skiff, said he didn't learn nothing. However, we talked about it on this show with the new Speaker of the House. It seems to be. Tim Burchard said, hey, listen, this guy wants to get to the bottom of it. He wants to figure it out. And we've been saying that for a while, that whoever they voted in was going to be in, favor of getting down to the nitty-gritty. They're also saying that it's a potential now that they're going to get this committee that McCarthy said no to.

Well, apparently they might say yes now. So we'll talk about that. Tons of sightings over Peru, one in San Diego. There's tons of stuff that we'll get into for sure. And the big question that people are asking, you know, as there was this big space, race back in the day and maybe this forever has already been going on but are both China and Russia ahead of us in the UFO technology talking about all that and more on today's show if you're brand new to the channel you've never been here before

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UAP Tuesday. Thanks to everybody who's been joining, myself, and Mark Yodius Riley. Happy UAP Tuesday, and more importantly, Christian, happy Halloween. Happy Hull-O-Wene, if they will. Hull-O-Wing. I can't believe that was a thing. I can't believe that was the thing. Every five seconds, I guess Roxy's, I guess you and I have been doing shows with Roxy

for so long that her Boston accent is just her Boston accent. And she was saying in the hole, in the hole, in the hole. And people are like, it's a hole, not a hole. Like, I was like, I literally was saying this every five seconds going, no one said hole, no one said hole, no one said hole. No one said whole. She's from Boston. No one said, and then finally, Roxy sent me that video.

Yeah. And I said, can I just turn this into a short? Because she said that for us. And I said, can I turn that into a short? Because that way, instead of me responding with my comments, I'll just send your response. She's like, please, go ahead. So, yes, Roxie. This is my reaction going into the comments that day.

I was like, let's go in there and, you know, I'll do this later. Yeah, everything that we were talking about. Maybe I wanted to get into it. But here's the difference. Here's the reason why I can't be upset about it. the episode did very well. Good. And it's because so many people

were commenting on the video that it got into the search engine and more people found this show. So nonetheless, look, yes, everybody was aware, all three of us, that it was the hull of the ship. Not Hulk, hull of the ship. We were very aware of that and that they breached the hole.

So thank you for everybody who chimed in to let us know. But we've got more that you can chime in on today. Did you wind up watching the George Napp? the George Knapp stuff? I haven't watched that yet. It's good.

I'm sure it is. It's real good. And it really makes me, I'm going to start diving deep into his podcast that he does with Jeremy Corbell now. Yeah. I am going to live vicariously through you.

I'm going to need and ask help from everybody out there. My wife is very pregnant. Yeah, yeah. The things that I want to watch, she doesn't want to watch them. I can't. I'm trying.

I know, it's hard. It's hard. You got to come and watch it. But it's fine. She wants to watch it. watch horror movies because it's Halloween, and so my child that is baking in there is getting a healthy dose of Halloween movies. Perfect.

She's going to be scared out of their mind or... No, she's going to come out just like... Can you ask. Like Jimmy Lee Curtis. Yeah. There you go. So look, and as I said to you and just to kind of make a repeat of what we've been talking about when we started the show, and for brand new people, by the way, so people know

this. And I won't do this every week, but I feel we gained so many new people last week that I should reiterate this. People are like, hey, just to let you know that you guys, when you say certain things like this, you don't come off as experts. We are not experts. We don't even pretend to be experts. We are people who literally started to follow this stuff. As the hearing started as...

Yeah, a little bit before that. A little bit before that. We were always interested in it. Yeah, it was the conference. Really? And that video... It was the New York Times stuff. It just kept talking about it.

And then that documentary that you watched really kind of... That's someone that kind of ignited it for me. So when I tell people, the reason, if you're coming to this, look, there are people, as I just mentioned, Jeremy Corbell, or Graves, and David Fravor, Ryan Graves, they all do stuff. They're all, like those guys,

those last two are, obviously have witnessed it. George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell, you know, all these people who have been in this forever. Like, that's really, you want to get into the deep dive of people who have been covering it, like that's that's that's that's where you go or James Fox you know yeah that's where you go as far as that's where I go um but like if you want to get if you're just kind of stumbling into this now and just saying oh man I'm I'm asking questions and I want the regular people to ask questions that's what this show is for so um yes we understand like tell us when we mess up the names tell us when we like there's certain things that we should look into tell us like perfect example we watched that turkey video last week at roxy apparently we didn't watch the whole thing like there was at the end of it there's there was like the bigger thing that we're there's like the bigger thing that happened. I'm flying by in this, I'm pretty casual, and as I'm

looking into the news, that was the other thing with the kind of the point of this whole conversation was that I had said to you up top, and I will never say this again, and I don't think you will either. When we first started, I said, I don't know how much information will ever have to do a weekly show, but maybe

we'll do once a month. And then there's tons of information every week that we... When you get down in the rabbit hole, you just find out that people are talking about this stuff all of the and there's stories all of the time. I'm happy to join in this because it's fun to know. And I love the disclaimer up top because, yeah, I just reiterate that way you just reiterated.

We're just two regular guys wanting to talk about this. I will keep saying I've had my own experience that is so insane and fun and sticks with me to this day to see it all out there now. Yeah. These rabbit holes that we can go down, the footage that we see online and that we can have these conversations. and I don't know if that's real. Maybe it is, maybe it's not.

I'm learning so much and it's fun. I guess I was going to wait to do this because... I think we should. I just do it now. So the other night, I was taking out the trash in front of my house, and I looked up and I just see like, and I've done this before. I've been looking up into, especially now after doing the show, I'm looking up into the sky going up.

You've been wanting this. I've been wanting to see things. Right. And I see it. And I cannot tell you how many times I've looked. up and it seems like, oh, there is, there's a star, and then I look over and there's a star, and then there's another star, and then there's another star. Or a helicopter.

Right, that happens all of the time. So the other night outside and the trash, and I look up, and there's a star, oh, there's a star, and I look up to the right, no other star. I look to the left, no other star. See a plane kind of in the distance, another star. And I'm like, oh, let me see. And I look at it, and it stays, and then it goes like this. and I'm like, well, wait a minute here.

Wait a minute. So I'm like, what is it? So I run into my house and I get my phone and I'll play what I recorded. So I looked at it and my wife's like, you look like a crazy person. You're just standing by the trash looking at looking at a dot going back and forth. And I took my 12 year old and she's out there. She's looking at it. So I immediately call Riley.

And Riley is at dinner. And you got to look at this. You got to see it. Just sitting down to dinner. And Riley's wife goes, it's a helicopter. I go, the helicopter would blow up if it was that high up in the air. Well, she said it was a balloon. I said, there's no way this is a balloon.

It was going on out, and I'll play it for you guys in a second. And then Riley looks at it again, because I told him to zoom in, and you're like, okay, I don't know what that is. I sent it to attack Peter. He's like, I don't know what that is. So here's, let me play the video. All right, so here's the first thing you say, again, it's zoomed in. It was very far away, and you guys are going to say the same thing. I don't know what that is.

And I don't know what it is. I really don't know what it is. But here's here's what I was looking at. So that dot is what I was staring at like forever. But what's around it? I mean, that's it. Yeah, I pull back and you'll see it. And it's just in the sky.

But there was nothing else out there. There was no clouds. There was, I mean, there are some clouds actually. When you pull back, there's clouds. But there was no like, there's nothing. See, now when I pull back now, that's all clouds around it. And that's the first one. And then this is the second one, right?

So this is when it starts kind of bouncing around a little bit. Now you'll see it kind of move. Watch. See, now it's moving. and you'll see it kind of, and then it goes away. Yeah. So I don't know what it was. I have no idea, and it could very well be absolutely nothing.

Probably. It was probably nothing. I mean, it's like, but I have never seen anything do that before. It's weird. I don't know what it is, but it's funny. I went through something similar to what you're going through, I think. I had my eyes to the sky before and after my experience,

because I was, again, talking about my first. friend Kai, who I said is saying he has been abducted. I was looking in the sky and that's when we saw something that turned out to be the lanterns in the sky. We were like, oh, because we saw it in the paper after.

But then, yeah, so I don't know what that was. So I don't know what it was. The chances it was, yeah, what we're maybe talking about? But do you know why I wanted to bring it up? Because it goes back to how many reports there are. Now, I didn't report this.

I didn't bring it. You could have too. This kind of brings up two points, part one. Let's say it was absolutely nothing. Let's say it was a balloon. Let's say it was a gas. Let's say it was nothing. Yeah.

And I reported it. Well, that would be one of the reports that goes into the stats. There you go. X amount of things can be explained, right? That's part one. Now, let's say it was something, and I didn't report it. that's yet one of the many times that somebody has seen something that hasn't reported part of that 12% of things that cannot be explained.

I didn't report anything when I saw mine. That's what I'm saying. So like how many times have people seen things and you've gone, okay, well, I just, like, the reason why if anybody says to me like in the comments or anything, too, that was clearly nothing. It was just the thing, I can't say anything because it was so far away. all I know is that it was a bright light it bounced left and right

it moved the way and the other problem is I do this show now so when I do this show people are going to say exactly what you said you was my co-host going well you just you kind of want to see something at this point right and that's what my and like because my wife by the end of the night wanted me to stop talking about it

because she started to go well are we safe it's what she said because she I believe that I saw I said look and I said to her so I don't know what that was I don't know what it was I said, I just don't, I never said, not once did the words come out of my mouth, I just saw a UFO. Not once. Yeah.

I just said, I don't know what that was it, which goes back to the whole point of the conversation. If there are things flying around in the sky that military pilots are going, I don't know what that was. And they saw it a lot closer than I did. Yeah, that's, that is the, I think it's a perfect example of what we're talking about. Yeah. Down to the smallest, simplest explanation of I was standing on, I was taking out the trash, and I saw something to the sky, and something bouncing around. I have no idea what it was. It didn't look like a helicopter or a balloon or this or that.

There was nothing else. Last night, I looked like, oh, there. And then looked to the right, and there was a star. I looked at the left to the star. And the thing I saw, it wasn't a star. I don't know what it was. It wasn't a star. This is forever my favorite story about your wife grabbing the phone out of your

hand. Oh yeah, what did she say? I forget she said he's staring it. He's stinned by the trash. Sorry, Mark, Julie, enjoy your dinner. He's been standing out here for 45 minutes, like some weird, creepy... Old man. Man, yeah, no. Old, creepy... No, God, I want to get it right.

My glasses on in my pajama pants. Sorry, Mark and Julie. He needs creepy, weird man. Something like that. But it was hysterical. But the problem is that, but as it was funny, but it also, it lends itself to the taboo. Yeah. Because I tried to go and get her, by the way. Yeah.

And she wasn't, I couldn't get her. So my 12 year was there. I said, come here. And she's going, what the hell is that? Yeah. And I said, I don't know. No. I said, I don't know.

But I had to, like, kind of downplay it to her because she had to go to bed, so I didn't want her to, I'm like, it was nothing. It was just, it was, who knows what it was. Right. But that's all I'm saying is that, I don't know what it was. Yeah. There's probably a good explanation for it in all cases, maybe. Maybe.

But the bottom line is there are people now trying to get to the bottom of it. And so that gets into, again, Tim Burchett is one of the guys. And they talked about this. I think it was on the hill, wherever it was. They were talking about Burchett. And him and a few other people were in the skiff. And they had said, well, you know, right now it doesn't seem like anybody's talking about it anymore. And what I wanted to say, and I said,

it out loud. I was like, yeah, because it's right now, look, this isn't, it's important. But as I said to you in the past when it came to like, when the hearings were going on and they were covering Hunter Biden, they were covering Trump's trials, I'm like, those should be stories two and three. The war that's going on right now should be the number one story. It should absolutely be the number one story. It shouldn't be. I mean, there are people like the Hill. and News Nation, other people still reporting on it as should be, but it's not going to be in the forefront of the news right now, nor should it be, unless, you know, things started landing and that's another story. So I got it when they were, like, so that's one of the reasons,

but there is still movement going on, and Burchett does seem a little discouraged, and I'll tell you why. All right. So again, this is News Nation. The top quote, I didn't learn anything. Burchett on the Classified UFO briefing. The classified briefing followed a public hearing on the UAPs. A whistleblower alleges that the Pentagon has a secret UFO retrieval program. Lawmakers expressed frustration over the lack of answers. So this is what Perchette said. Absolutely nothing.

It's just brute my point that, I mean, the federal government learned how to do this during the World War. You've got to imagine Oak Ridge National Laboratory, Manhattan Project, thousands of people. working on an atomic bomb and less than 12 actually knew what it was and that was kept secret and these guys are just the classic um you know that it's like a stovepipe man they just got their little bit of information and it doesn't go and that's the way they keep this you can say it's disinformation you can say whatever but you know if i got to hear one more time i don't know what i don't know and i it's just it's another layer of the onion and we through another layer and we

know where not to go and it's with these cans. It's clear to me, I mean, these guys were telling the truth. It's said many times. Most of these folks are patriotic Americans. They're doing their job, but their job, the confines of their job, limit them on what they can say to us because they just, they just don't know. They got to go, and the way they do it is they keep you in a,

so limited that they could go swear under oath and be telling, they could take a lie to take your test. And they're telling the truth as they know it. Nothing new. Nothing new. So I think that... This is Pauline Aluna and Masquitz. We have a new speaker now. We're working on getting our select committee, and I'm very hopeful about that. But frankly, it doesn't seem like it's anything other than what we were told in. The fact is that Congress should have oversight and the ability to look into and have access to these programs.

And the fact is, is that we're being told that we don't have access to these programs, which defeats the purpose of what we're supposed to be. But your colleagues do have access? Is there on certain? No. No. Well, they didn't tell us. They didn't tell us who. They wouldn't answer that.

If they have information, they're not going to tell us. Scott Perry. They either don't know or they're so complicated the process by which the information could be available is not going to be available. We can't even find out who is allowed to know. We can't find out who is allowed to know. We can't find out. of members of Congress are allowed to know, what it takes to let them know, what citizens

are allowed to know, which ones who, we can't find, we can't even find out that, let alone the information that might or might not be available or known to anyone. Dr. President. We've got people on both sides of the aisle, my buddy, Jared Moskowitz, AOC was in there, you know, just a lot of people on both sides of the aisle. And Luna on our side, I mean, you know, and General Perry and just everybody was in there. there. It was the right people to be in there, and they were, they all left frustrated, I felt like. That's so nuts all the way around, right? Like, there's so much there because this is what I was trying

to tell Roxy last week. And this is what DJ Woolridge does not understand when he says things like, oh, I don't trust them to be able to keep secrets. I mean, yeah, it's certain people in the government, I agree with them. There are certain people that, you know, that are out there. You see on the news all the time, you're like, well, that person would slip up. That's not these people. And clearly, as Burchett says, like this stove pipe that goes, okay, you can have that. We can give them that. Give them that.

But it'll go nowhere. Send those guys because they don't know nothing. Like Bertchette said, Berchette was like, yeah, they know what they know. And they sent those guys because they don't, that's not the guys that we should be talking to. Right. They'll take a lie detector test. Yeah. And they'll pass it.

Yeah, they know what they know. Yeah. It feels like it's a brick wall. In some cases. You could see the frustration pouring out of all of them. Yeah. All of them. I appreciate Bershett so much because he just is such a straight shooter.

Yeah, he is. And I like him, you know, I follow the same model in my life. And that is I want people to reach over the aisle. I want people to talk. And I like that he's mentioning that, you know, it's like the usual suspects are there. and united they are sitting there going god damn it they're all frustrated all of them both sides Democrat and Republican all frustrated and it's like

yeah they you look at them but the thing that I said did you hear that it's what I texted you in Roxy the other day that I said I said I guarantee you Burchett was one of the people that voted to get McCarthy out of Speaker of the House McCarthy said no to the select committee to get the UAPs. Now, do I think that's the only reason that Perchette put that vote in there? No, of course not.

Do I think that it had something to do with it? I do. And because Gates and because Bertchette and because Luna, because they all are under the same, they're fighting the same fight, they guarantee you out, out. I thought you were pretending to be a Republican talking to McCarthy I'm going to leave that I'm going to leave all of that out out McCarthy out I literally went yeah I thought I thought you were

pretending you like what the Republicans did was out I was talking like sit get away from there for real get away good oh he's what throwing up right my no my dog walked in. He's like, should I be in here? He's like, no, you know, you can't be in here right now. Anyway, so, uh, thank God, there was a brodie. He just, you know, just wrecking house. But McCarthy was out. Yeah. And I said to you, I guarantee you, whoever they vote in, whoever it is, is going to approve this committee. Sure. Luna says, that's exactly what the deal is. And then they talked about it in this next, uh, this next article. Okay. All right, from Deserate News. Now, could Congress form a select committee to investigate UFOs? These lawmakers hope so.

At a recent briefing on UFO, some lawmakers said they didn't get the answers they were looking for. This was back to what we were just talking about. So a group of lawmakers in the House of Representatives met with chiefs from the Department of Defense and National Intelligence Community on Thursday to discuss the unidentified anomalous phenomenon or the UAPs. Scott Perry described the effort as meaningless because of the extensive security clearances that were required. We can't even find out who's allowed to know is what we just listened to Perry tell us. The meeting was requested after the House held a hearing in July where Air Force veteran and former intelligence officer David Grush could not produce details about any UAP crash retrieval programs because it was deemed

classified. Tim Burchett, who led the hearing, wrote a letter in August asking Inspector General of the Intelligence Community Thomas Moynihan to brief Congress about which federal government programs are involved in crash retrievals and inspections. Berchette, who recently launched the UAP caucus speculated that the meeting was the federal government's ways of keeping information under wraps. And he talked, they quote him for what we just listened to. And then Eric Burleson was convinced that an entity tied to the federal government or foreign was developing an advanced form of propulsion after the meeting with the officials. What it appears to be is somebody has discovered something,

some advanced form of technology that may actually change all of our lives. This is a Burleson told Laslo, but it's clearly an experimental phase or we're experimenting with it. Reporter Joe Cahill posted a statement from the DOD Inspector General about the Thursday briefing saying that the oversight committee does not determine what information is classified and who has the security clearance for it. The UAPs have piqued curiosity from both sides. Burleson said he wants to push newly elected House Speaker Mike Johnson to create a committee

with Burchett as the chairman. Give him the authority. him chase the rabbit. Brelson told Daily Wire talking about Burchett, the American people and the members of Congress know what's going on. So if we create a committee that has purpose for this, it's hard to deny us that we should not have access to this information. Berchette said Johnson seems very receptive to the idea. So that is exactly what you and me and Roxy were talking about. Yeah. They're going to go to Johnson and they're going to say to Johnson because he already, Burchett's already said it out loud a couple times. I guarantee you behind closed doors when, because we got to remember, Johnson was an unknown.

Nobody knew who he was. Nobody knew who he was at all. He had, and one of the reasons that they said that he got the gig is because he doesn't have a lot of enemies yet. Yet, yeah. Everybody in politics has enemies. Right, right. He's certainly under the radar. He's got no enemies yet, and he's cutting deals with people. You don't think that Perchette's in there going, I'll tell you what. You got my vote. But when I come to you and I need this committee, Burchett is a senior, senior guy. That's what they're all doing, yeah. And of course, he's cutting a deal.

I can guarantee he's cutting a deal. And he's saying, when time comes and we want this committee, you've got to sign over to it. Yeah. Because the first thing Bertchette said is like, now Johnson's on board and wants to get to the bottom of this is what he said. Didn't hear Johnson say this yet, but that's what he said. And now Luna's mentioned it.

They're all mentioning it because that was part of the deal. Yeah. And now this committee that Kevin McCarthy said, no, I don't want to deal with. I got other things. You're not getting the committee. No. Johnson's going to give him a committee. And Burchett leading the committee?

That's fine. That's ideal. Yeah. Because when you hear, he's the one guy. There's stuff in here that's just insane. What do you got? So I'm reading from the article that you're on deseret.com. The lawmakers stayed mum coming out of the hearing.

but Representative Eric Burleson, a Republican from Montana, was convinced that an entity tied to the federal government or foreign was developing an advanced form of propulsion after the meeting with the intelligence officials. Sorry, I'm just jumping forward. I read it. A little bit, no, because I know, I know, but I think the committee is going to happen because of all these things because of stuff like that. You're right, right. This is insane. That is insane to me. I think it's all of that where it's like, okay, because I think Barchette and the rest of them. Because the politics are in there that you're talking about.

And I'm like, shut up. Listen to that. What's that? Go. But I think that Barchet and the rest of them, like Loon, they all know all that stuff. Yeah. They know all that stuff already. So like this guy who heard that.

So whoa, what's that? And they're like, yeah, that's a small portion of everything. Right. It's a small portion of it. It's like get me, let me. Because if Burchette's running a committee, then the men in black, if you will, are going, this guy, man. Yeah, look, he just mentioned it Bershett in that interview. And I keep not putting it in my thinking, but Oppenheimer and their Manhattan Project, I think this is the precedent that has been set.

How long do they keep that quiet for it? Right. And this is like similar repercussions. As far as changing the way we think, the way the world can work and look and see. Yeah. And it just makes perfect sense. They're going to be like, no, no, no, no. So it's really, like, the more we get, and you were talking about this every month,

we'll do it once a month. Right. No, there's so much to talk about. And there's stuff that we're going to keep coming to this freaking wall with some of these, this stove pipe, as you say. Well, I think that that's why, well, you could see the frustration in Burchett's face. There's no doubt about it. And what he does that I really don't see a lot of politicians doing.

What's he say? He goes about Mouskowitz. He goes, yeah, my buddy, Mouskowitz. He shows what politicians used to be. I love that. And look, I've heard... I'm responding to that, man. I'm glad you mentioned it.

I've heard Burchett talk about things on other topics. I'm like, I don't know if I agree with that. But he carries himself in a way like it used to be where you're going, I don't line up with that guy's politics, and I don't line up with that. But he presents himself in that. I can follow him there. There's other people on both sides of the coin

where you look and you go, that person's doing that. And saying that, I'm like, I don't know if I can be on board. I definitely can't be on board with that, ever, no matter what they're talking about. Oh, I know what you're... He carries himself. I feel the same way.

It goes to my... You know, when McConnell had that issue when he's up at the podium there, and it comes around to Biden, and he's in check. I called my friend, and I asked how he was. I mean, and that's, he, Biden being a part of the Senate for just his entire life. McConnell, same deal.

And he got crap for it too, because he said that's right. And that's, and it's like, why are he getting crap for trying to work with people? And I think that that's what I love about Burchett is what he's doing right now, as far as this, this situation goes. And he said it. He said it and he said, look, we got, we got, we got Lune in there. We got AOC in there. We got everybody in there. He said everybody who's supposed to be in there is in there.

He's like, that this is, we're doing all the right things. Yeah. It's, these are not the guys we need to talk to. Right. I love that. He's like, he's just like, they're pushing them around in the thing. And that's why from that frustration and those comments, he's the guy that needs to be in charge of that committee. Like he does.

Like he's, he's passionate about it. He's knocking on the doors. He's talking to the right people. He knows he's getting, he's really diving deep. He does a lot of interviews, by the way, from big to small. He does a lot of different interviews. He's getting his face out there and he's getting in. And it doesn't feel to me.

And I don't know, maybe he's just that good of a politician. But he doesn't feel to me that he's doing this for self-gain. Politically? Yeah, I'm sure politically that is there. I don't see it. I don't see how this has a political angle. Well, it does if you prove it. Of course.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I had to stop myself there because in this climate, everything's about it. Everything's about it. This is what I'm saying, though. There are so many people because of that stigma, though. Right. It's going to follow everybody around. It is.

So there are people. A UFO senator? Right. To example. You know that's his documentary. This documentary is going to be the UFO senator. Right. But this is, yeah, then that's great.

But this is what I'm talking about. Christy on the stage with other Republicans talks about a conversation is. brought about the hearing, the UAPs. He says, ah, I get the UFO question. And everybody, that they make noise, and then all of a sudden he reverses position there, but that is part of that stigma. And I'm

sure there are a ton of voters out there on the Republican side of things that are like, come on. Of course. It's true. It's true. So it's, I still believe it's an uphill battle, but having all of those people reach across the aisle and trying

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government has recovered at least one UFO. The overwhelming majority of these individuals also claim that the government transferred the retrieved craft to defense contractors for technical and scientific analysis. Separately, sources interviewed by investigative journalist Michael Schellenberger alleged that defense contractors are studying a dozen or more recovered UFOs. All of Schellenberger sources claim that excessive secrecy is hindering a comprehensive understanding of the retrieved objects, enigmatic technology. Moreover, an expanded network of sources told Schellenberger that at least 30 whistleblowers families with these alleged UFO retrievals and analysis efforts have provided testimony

to Congress, the U.S. government's congressionally mandated UFO analysis office, and the investigative watchdogs that oversee the U.S. Department of Defense and Intelligence Community. Importantly, the Inspector General for the intelligence community deemed the lead UFO whistleblower's core allegations credible and urgent. Moreover, the whistleblower, former intelligence official and U.S. Air Force veteran David Grush, is represented by the intelligence community's first inspector general. This high-profile attorney, now in private practice, sat behind Grush during an extraordinary July 26th hearing. As Mike Gallagher, a member of the House permanent select community on intelligence stated recently, new projections enacted by the Congress

resulted in all sorts of UFO whistleblowers coming out of the woodwork. These individuals, Gallagher said, are telling congressional investigators they are part of this or that UFO program, resulting in a variety of pretty intense conversations. As Senate Intelligence Vice Chair, Marco Rubio, has put it, one of two astounding possibilities is now at hand.

Either, this is the one, Riley, that to me is very intriguing. Yeah. Either dozen of credible individuals are gradually revealing the biggest story in human history or a sizable cohort of high-level government officials holding top security clearance are crazy. Reflecting on the stature of the individuals who spoke to Congress, Rubio asked rhetorically,

what incentive would so many people with that kind of qualification? These are serious people have to come forward and make something up. Indeed, giving the penalties for making false statements to investigative agencies is unlikely that these individuals, some of whom claim direct firsthand knowledge of the retrieval program are participating in a sophisticated disinformation effort. So are numerous high-level government officials delusional in making false claims of firsthand UFO knowledge to investigators? Such a stark case of social contagion would amount to a concerning and extraordinary development. Moreover, if dozens of senior officials are indeed crazy, they still have convinced key members of Congress

to treat their extraordinary allegations with seriousness. There's a lot more here, by the way, because I want to get into that UFO thing. That made me that they did the Russian and the Chinese part of it because we didn't even get to that yet. Yeah. This is the biggest, this is what I'm leading. This is what I'm going to put the thumbnail. Yeah. This is the thumbnail.

This is the conversation today. This is probably why you clicked on the video to hear us talk about this because this is massive. This is a story. This particular story is a story that should be at least on like Lester Holt, right? You know, like Lester Holt does, like the reason why like Lester Holt and NB. to me. It's just click on it and they cover the five big news stories of the day and there's not really a lot of opinion pieces on it. Like if you go to CNN or you go to Fox or you go to these other networks, you're going to pretty much have a particular point of view at least one,

they're all opinion shows one way or another, right? Reporting on news, but there's still, there's still opinion pieces with particular suways, right? Right. So whether it's David Mure, whether it's any of these shows, the nightly news shows, they should, this story should be somewhere. It's terrifying. Should be somewhere, because this is one of those things. Granted, not the first story, but it should be like, and the main story is, for years, this is the story, for years, people have been saying inside, like, people with high-level

clearance have been saying, A, we have retreat. UFOs, many of them. B, we've been working on them to reverse engineer them. They've breached a hole. They've breached the hole. The hull. They have breached the hall. But yes, but that conversation that we had last week, yes. And now in this story, the story that should be talked about is every other week, another high level person inside of the government. As Rubio said, are either coming out to say, hey, it's time I talk or they're out of their minds. And that means there's about 30 people out of their minds. There are at least 30 people who are saying this exists.

Why are they all making it up? Why are they all making up that we found a UFO? Why are they all making it up? Like, I mean, do you believe in the comments? Because there's always that person that goes, ah, do you believe? It's Arnold. I had to be honest with you. He's in the comments.

I was just trying. I fought an alien. I was coming here to see if this is going to find something from a new movie. Instead you're talking about finding things in the sky. You're standing in the trash for 45 minutes looking at the sky. But yeah, so you know what I mean? Like it's like there, you have to ask that question. This story is to me that I'm very interested in the Burchett and him leading the thing.

This is what he needs. This is what he's going to be going after. This is what you got to talk to everybody. I mean, the alluding to stories that could break within the next year, as many people have done, this story makes me wonder, just is that going to be it? Is that going to be what is going to pull? Because shit. I mean, there's a lot going on in my head right now. When you're reading all this, I'm sitting there worried because it's what I've been saying as well.

the reverse engineering of this stuff is probably paramount to what everybody wants to do with once they get it. And when they're saying like, hey, there are people also saying that Russia and China has this. That scares the shit out of me, pardon my French, but when we have it there, when we are saying that as well, then we have the other story that we were just covering, you know, that there's a report that they're talking about propulsion systems. And it's all gearing up into this, what the hell? are people, why can't we talk about this? Makes me think of don't look up that movie. That it just...

Well, let me hit this part of it too because now, because I have a lot of thoughts that tie into what you just said because of this. So continuing on, in July, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, along with bipartisan group of five or other senators, introduced

remarkable UFO-related legislation following reporting that China and Russia may also have retrieved UFOs Language in the legislation alluding to the increasing potential for technology surprise from foreign adversaries takes on a particular significance. While the exact details of foreign UFO retrieval and reverse engineering efforts remain murky, Grush described a publicly unknown cold war, recovered and exploiting the physical material, a competition with near-peer adversaries over the years to identify UAP crashes, landings, and retrieve the material for exploitation. reverse engineering to garner the national defense advantages.

According to retired U.S. colonel, Carl Neal, who served alongside Grush in an early iteration of the government's contemporary UFO analysis efforts, he says Grush's assertion concerning the existence of a terrestrial arms race occurring subrosa over the past 80 years, focused on reverse engineering technologies of unknown origin is fundamentally correct. I mean, this is a retired Army colonel. This is insane. This allegation from two former high-ranking defense officials in tandem with independent investigative reporting raise a host of national security questions and issues.

And clearly, Congress is paying attention. The Schumer-led legislation, for example, defines non-human intelligence as any sentient, intelligent, non-human life form regardless of nature or ultimate origin that may be presumed responsible for UFOs. Notably, the term non-human intelligence appears two dozen times in the legislation, alongside frequent references to biological evidence of non-human intelligence. Critically, the legislation Schumer proposes defines legacy UFO programs precisely as the whistleblowers allege. Any government or private sector endeavors to collect, exploit, reverse engineer technologies of unknown origin or examine biological evidence of living or deceased

non-human intelligence. Just importantly, the draft legislation mirrors whistleblowers allegations that recovered UFOs are now in the hands of defense contractors. If passed as drafted, the bill would require that any and all recovered UFOs and biological evidence of non-human intelligence that may be controlled by private persons or entities be turned over to the U.S. government in the U.S. government. in the interest of the public good. This is fascinating.

It's fascinating. It's where I went. I just couldn't stop reading this. Fascinating. A different section of the same legislation, also sponsored by Senator Gillibrand and Rubio, offers an intriguing glimpse into the programs described by whistleblowers. Beyond putting an immediate halt to any unreported UFO recovery

and reverse engineering efforts, the Gillibrand Rubio legislation describes in some detail retrieval efforts, capturing, recovering, and securing UFOs, scientific study, analyzing retrieved UFOs for the purpose of determining properties, material composition, method of manufacture, origin characteristics, usage, application, performance, operational modulites, and security and counterintelligence, managing and providing security for protecting activities and information relating to UFOs from disclosure or compromise. So of a particular interest, the legislative, alludes to the existence of highly advanced forms of propulsion derived from recovered UFOs

and based on technology other than chemical propellants, solar power, or electric ion thrust. Intrigely, followed a classified briefing from the Department of Defense Inspector General on UFOs this week, Eric Burleson stated it appears somebody has discovered something, some advanced form of propulsion or technology that may change all of our lives. Should it exist, such technology could propose new dangers or solve any number of global challenges. But as they say in that legislation, in the sense of Congress section, extraordinary secrecy surrounding the retrieved UFOs is creating technology and security stovepipes that could threaten the nation's global lead in critical advanced technologies.

Yeah, this is the, out of all the stories. This is the one. Out of all the stories that we have covered, to me, this is the most important one. Yeah. This is, this is, this is it for me. This is the story. When you see video evidence finally released by government in conjunction with a New York Times article, then you have Grush come out and you have Burschette knocking on things and then you get slight peaks, you hear things, and then this comes out. It's exactly what I've been talking about. You've been talking about.

I've been saying over and over again, likening it to Sputniks, the space race, everybody wants to get there first. They're going to reverse engineer this stuff because they want to be the first. And if you're telling me now, they're like, yeah, Russia and China are involved. No kidding. They've been for a while.

No kidding. For a while. It's the same thing as an arms race. But I think that's the answer, dude. I think that's the answer for the secrecy. In the same way it was for space, in the same way there was for nukes, in the same way it was for all this.

No, it wasn't an understanding. It was the fact that it was like, We cannot... They can't explain it. We can't acknowledge that we've been working on this stuff because, God forbid, Bert Chet and all these people shine a light on what we've been working on for 70, 80 years. And something comes out inside of that whole report,

and then the Russians or the Chinese use it against us. And now it's like, wait a minute, you guys have been working on that? And it's like, it's over for those people that comes out. they're going to do everything they can to protect this, move what they can do it, because they cannot let this come out because this is 80 years of cover-up. This is 80 years. Now, I don't want to hear it of like, do I, if anyone said, do I think there's a cover-up that used to be like an 80% yes to him?

99.9%. After all this, as Rubio said, why in the world would all these people come forth now after Grush did? Grush opened up the floodgates. Gresh is one of the most important people to ever, ever testify in front of Congress, ever. Yeah, I tend to agree with it. It's hard. That's a very big statement. But it is important that he's done this. And it's important that he's saying these things because now the floodgates have opened, so to speak. At the very least, it's just these conversation. When you have our elected officials now saying they're elected officials for a reason. We trust them. Well, I don't know about that. Well, Jesus, that was... I trust them for this.

I trust them. You trust them enough, right? They've earned my trust for this particular thing. Correct. Because, and here's my point, I don't believe, and I'm probably wrong because I don't know shit, what's behind the curtain here. Do they have an Oppenheimer, somebody that understands this? Because my fear is, there's no understanding because it is otherworldly.

Whatever it is we're talking about here. Russia has it, China has it. They don't have theirs. They're all hiding it. Trying to figure out what it is. Trying to figure out what it is. Like a bunch of dumb people sitting around with like, you know, remember that scene in Zoolander?

When they're trying to work the computer. Yeah, 2001. Same deal. I go Zoolander where they're trying to do the computer. Right. It worries me because it's about what can we do to benefit us. first and beat them China, Russia. And not tell the people what is...

It's like... Our own elected representatives going, what do you have? It scares the shit out of me. Pardon my French. If you... The S word many times. But if you look at everything,

like this to me is this report of the fact that there's all these different people. And the one to me is the most like just conclusive is the guy who worked with Grush who's going, Yeah, the ex-colonel going, everything he says true. Like everything, everything he says true. This is also why I hope now that they've got Johnson in there, that they go, when is the next hearing?

And he goes, when are you on it? You know, like, when is the next hearing? Because that is what needs to happen. That second hearing really needs to happen if they can indeed get all of these people, these new whistleblowers, these people who came across. There were some of them that I think they were supposed to come in front. And at the last minute something happened, they weren't able to do it. I wonder how many of them would have actually testified.

But if they can get another one of these hearings, and they can put some of these people in it and get these reports of the people confirming what Grush said last time and people who've actually seen certain things, that's what they need. Because the biggest criticism to Grush that I saw, besides the Kakamimi one, or the guy who tried to get his PTSD to use it against him, which was... It's just soulless.

Not that. But the biggest criticism for Grush, which I understand, is, yeah, but this is a guy who heard from a guy who heard from a guy is what they say, right? Now, when you listen to what he's done and how many people he's interviewed, if you really dive deep like we have been and other people have been, you understand why Grush is so credible. And you understand that the people that he's talking to are probably, are not probably, are legit and have told him these things. Yeah, it's not the guy on the corner by the freeway holding up a sign. Right, but you understand, again, like the DJ Wilders of the world will be like, who's not following this, would go like, well, yeah, but he says he heard from somebody else. You understand that. It's the, right.

It's in political, look, many people use it as like when they say, oh, our sources say this, you know, it can be attacked. Oh, they're just making that out. Right, but that's why I think you need somebody. You need the guys who told Rush. You need those guys to testify. Well, yeah. And the articles that we were just covering, you know, I think it frames it perfectly. What they're saying is like either there are 25 high-ranking officials that are crazy.

Right. Or this, or we need to look into this. I mean, that's what it just comes down to for me. All of these people are credible for me. Yeah. Here's my prediction. As Lou Elizondo said, as James Fox has said, as Jeremy Corbelle has said, within the next year, as we said,

there's going to be more stuff that comes out, right? One of the things that I think will happen now is that Johnson will approve this committee. He will put Burchett as the head of that committee, and Burchett's going to really get down to it, and there will be a second hearing, and the second hearing will reveal stuff that these people are talking about

that is going to be, you thought that first one gave away some stuff. The second one was the one. I think that's going to happen within the next year. That's what I think. But before I do, and before we get, we always look at some of the, do you have something else you want to say about this?

Yeah, no. It's just going back to the don't look up comparison because I feel like we are at this point. I think there can be absolutely a earth-shattering information out there that could possibly bring a lot of people together. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. It's like there is something more. We have to focus on what's going on in the world, and I understand that, and there is some awful, awful things going that we need to focus and put our entire attention on. But there is something happening behind the scenes that a lot of people don't want to look up

and accept is out there, and they have it, our representatives are looking into it. Please get in there, make this happen. I want to know. I'm starting to get really anxious. Anxious, yes.

Concern that there is something that could literally be detrimental to the human race. Or something that could benefit the human race. Absolutely. Both sides. Both. But just they've hinted at it. I'm talking stuff that if they're worried about what the hell is that, it could actually hurt, you know, air flights and all these things.

I am just wondering if there is something happening, it's just more and more of this stuff just is starting to really make me think. Yeah, I'm sure. And when you get information like this, and the fact, because there's so, this is the most that Congress has ever gotten involved, and it's also why more people are listening to it,

because more people are getting, because when the, deep right. Yeah, when the senators are getting involved, then they're taking it serious. Because then the rest of the public goes, oh, yes. Because I still, strangely enough,

I still see in the comments section, people, from both sides, They'll go, oh, this is just a distraction from the Democrats. It's like, well, you know, Burchett's a hardcore Republican, right? And then I see, oh, this is just a distraction to get him away from Trump. And you're like, you know AOC is on that thing. And he should go, wait a minute. Also, nobody's really talking about this.

It's not in the mainstream media. It's not in the mainstream. CNN is running it first thing in the morning. It's everything. But it's not covered. So that argument is that. the worst. It's hard to eat. Right. That argument's the worst. When you have a literally, you have a handful of people on both sides of the aisle. It just, it's, it's, it doesn't make any sense.

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All right. So let's get to some of these videos. Now, as much as I love this one, let's see, I'm going to show you this one first. This is the San Diego one. And here it is. I'll let you see this. Sarah, get out here. Oh, that's cool.

What is that? Those are meteors or like space dust. Wait a minute, they're turning. Sarah, get out here. What's that? Why, did they just turn? Sarah. What was that?

Music's great. And what is Sarah doing? I don't know, Sarah. Is you taking a dump? Sarah, get out there. Let's say a little. All right, so Sarah, Sarah never show up. All right, so what I thought that was like...

Now, what they said is this is a well-known jump-dive technique performed by the Navy Seals were based in San Diego. That's what, so that's what they, that's what they said for that one. That is awesome. But that's why. I was wondering about that. San Diego, so there's got to be a million things flying around there. But this is why, like I said, we'll show things

like that too, because you can see something like that. Yeah, that looked insane. It looks insane. It looks like you said it first, oh, it's a meteor, and then it starts going like this. Well, what is that? So you can see while people could go like that guy. Him and if Sarah ever made it out there, the two of them probably thought,

rightfully so, what was that? Like, that thing that they saw was more compelling than what I saw. Right. You know what mean and yet there was a major explanation for it yeah so when again going back to what I said earlier there are tons of reports that can be explained no one is disputing that no one is disputing that like you can say oh well that there's an explanation for that it's the matter of the fact of going

well the ones that can't be just tell me what it is um all right yeah yeah there's another one here riley this is an interesting one this one is from this is a from a Twitter account account think tank pilot records UFO behaving exactly how David Fravor described it. All right here is the video. See, look at that. What's that doing? What is that? What's it doing?

But it doesn't look, that looks pretty fake to me. You think it looks fake? Yeah, it looks, it looks doctor. You think two bouncing around? Yeah, it looks doctored. That does not look. Okay. That doesn't look real to me.

God, my eyes just went, nope, I'm not buying that one, but let's see. Let's see what, we'll see if it was, I usually tell you if it was deemed fake or not at the bottom of it. This guy said it was indeed an undetified flying object. After landing, I checked the footage and saw that that's exactly what it was. When I zoomed in on the clip, I noticed that the object had very weird, rapid movements. Did it just go back? When I zoomed in on the clip? Yeah, so it says, okay.

Objects flying basically at the same speed we were about 248 miles per hour. And the descent, 400 kilometers per hour. And, this is, it was moving very awkwardly producing, very strong G-forces. Look at that. All right, so you think, you think that that's... looks kind of fakeish. Let's see what it says on the bottom. Does it have anything?

It's not sped up. Look at the ground. This is a few days back. Let's see. Terrifying UAP footage with the commentary. Exactly this one looks to be, no one's called it out that it was. No, no one's called it out so far.

You know, it's hard for me to. That's the tricky part of all this, right? It's like you don't know which ones are legit, which ones are doctored, which ones are, it's crazy. So, yeah, man, that was that one, and then there's, there are a couple more. Now, this one, UFO goes through a Stargate. This is filmed in Canada.

Now, who knows? After effects or something to do with particle illusion or something like that. And then I discovered this video actually has multiple angles to which it was shot. And I looked at the report that the weatherspace.com. Now, what's that? That can't be real. And it just blew me away. There's also multiple photo. From other different people that have actually taken photographs of this particular event.

This happened in Western Canada on Friday night. You know this... So when we take a look at this, it's kind of a look back at the Norway spiral. I think with this, I think it's even more spectacular because we're just seeing something... We're literally seeing something almost like out of a science fiction movie here. This is incredible. If this is truly authentic, then this is an incredible piece of footage that we have here. up here. It looks like some sort of, you know, bluish, whitish kind of...

Yeah, right, I can't. I just, it just can't tell. I just can't tell. There's not... Hey, go to the, can you click on the... This one? No. There's nothing said in the, in the comments. I don't know. These are hard. That, that, it's incredible, whatever it is. Whatever it is. So the, the idea, if you consider the idea that you could hit a stargate and go to another galaxy, just like Star Wars,

or Stargate or whatever you want to say? I mean, fine. This is the last one here. And this is... Let's try this one. Here's one, Riley. Look at this one. So I can't...

This one seems like one of the corridor crew would do. You ready? Yep. Oh, Jesus. Right? Yeah. There is a slow motion. Let's see it.

It's in slow motion. Here we go. There it is. That one's got to be. That one's definitely good. Yeah. I saw close encounters of the third kind. Let's see.

All right. Riley, this is the one. This is from Peru. A lot of sightings in Peru. There's a lot of controversy with the Peru thing. Like, I got a lot of trouble, but like people were mad at me when I said, I didn't, I, when attack Peter was on here, I said, I don't know about stuff going on in Peru. Maybe that's not true. And they said, there's a lot of things that these villagers are getting attacked.

But here's... There's a same deal. Like kind of... Well, look, let's see. Where is? Oh, there it is. There it is. Yeah, I've seen my camera.

Okay. It's kind of disappearing in and out. It's kind of disappearing in and out. I mean, that kind of stuff is... I buy that. It's like going in and out of the clouds. Yeah. is again. See it? Yeah, I see it.

Yeah. It almost looks like a fly on the screen. Yeah, and it's a spirit. That's right there. There it is now. Like, what's in Peru, like that they want? I'm curious. Not nothing, I'm just saying. It seems like what's in Peru, obviously, what's in U.S., what's in Russia? What, like, is Peru? Peru doesn't have, like, nuclear stuff, do they? Well, how do you say nuclear? Because people got mad when you said it.

Oh, because I can't say nuclear? Yeah, you said, how do you said? Nuclear. Yeah, you said, people got mad at you last time. Those people are dumb. Anyway, so that's usually what we do on the show. We show, like, some of the stuff at the end. You can leave your opinions and whatever you think.

I don't know. I mean, I buy that's kind of, when you see it. Yeah, I mean, it's. What is it? That's a, what is it? and that could be anything type thing. We're trying to find the, get the footage. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. You tried the other night. It was valiant effort. I tried. And who knows that if it was during the daytime, if it would have looked like that. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Like so, I don't know. Look, a lot that we talked about here today. To me, the most intriguing stuff is essentially the confirmation from all these different whistleblowers that everything that this retrieval program, like, yeah, the thing we talked about last week, about breaching the hole, you know, the, you know, the, you know, the. The fact that David Grush said this retrieval program, the fact that people from for years upon years, about years have been saying this. And now you get more people now that are coming out and going, yes, he says it's like a new whistleblower every single day

from these programs are coming out and not just ex-military people. It's like, I don't know. I'm so curious to hear what you guys think. Please sound off in the comments because it's fascinating to me. Should I be as like, is this, am I wrong that this is not such an amazing, story or do you guys think it's just another story? I'm very curious to hear all your thoughts. Please comment. Let me know.

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