The Kristian Harloff Show - HUGE CHANGES!! Dave Filoni promoted to New Head of Creative for Star Wars. Do we like this?

Episode Date: November 22, 2023

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What's going on, everybody? Welcome back. It is Wednesday. It is the big thing. And man, oh man, we got the crew back finally together. The band is back together. Myself, Steph Sabraa, and the Grouchiest Man Alive, Mike Kalinowski. All three of us are back. And there's a lot of news, man. There's a lot of news. Nicholas Holt cast as Lex Luther. There is a new movie, karate kid movie with Ralph Machio and Jackie Chan. And the big story that dropped right before we, we even started recording this, Dave Faloni has been promoted to run the creative for Star Wars, for Lucasfilm with Kathleen Kennedy. He will be overlooking and basically confirming or denying any projects that come through the creative of Star Wars. Is that a good thing? Is it a bad thing? We'll talk about that and more on today's show.

Speaking of shows, if you're able to and you're going to be there, hey man, Burbank, on December 2nd, we're going to be doing a stand-up comedy show. And if we can get to 600 patrons, we might see Mike Kalanowski do it, but you got to get there. We've got to get to 600 pretty quick. But we hope that you'll join us. So patreon.com slash the big thing show. We are at 103,000 subscribers now. We're trying to get to 200.

We hope that you guys can join us for the journey if you haven't done so already. So I'm excited to talk to Mike and Steph today. Let's get into it. It's the big thing. Let's go. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. It is the big thing. Wednesday.

the day before Thanksgiving. And I give thanks because it's the first time in months. I have both Steph Sabraugh. Hello. Mike Kalanowski. Hello. The whole cruise. We're finally back together.

What's up? Numb nuts. Is that my voice? Yeah, it's like an old grandpa that says numn nuts. Not on none. Open the gate. Shut the hell out. Steph was excited.

She watched our episodes while she was gone. is going to bust her nuts off. Yeah. It fueled me. It fueled me to watch you guys. Steph, you got a story for us before we start. Tell us. Oh, okay.

So in improv, Christian probably knows this. I'm versed in improv. Yes, and. So, right. There's this thing called Park Bench of Truth, right? It's just a warm up scene where you sit down and you kind of just talk. You're not trying to find a bit, but you share an opinion. So I shared the opinion.

So this is a two-parter. I want to hear your opinion on my opinion. And then also the reaction to what. what happened. Oh shit. So I said, I think that there is an onus on men in relationships with women to break the seal on pooping and farting so that their lady feels more comfortable being Yeah, like just being a normal human not being like crazy about it, but just being like not Whoops. Yeah, not having to live in fear or do what I did. Do you remember that story? We do that too. Yeah. So he goes, yeah, I mean this random guy was doing.

the thing with. And he, the improv part. Yeah. Yeah. He was like, yeah, I could see that. And he randomly went down this story where he said, I, the only interaction I have with this was with my last girlfriend when I was brushing my teeth and we had been dating just for a few months.

And it was like one of the first time she was sleeping over. And while brushing his teeth, she came in, just took down her pants and started ripping it? Ripping it. And I was like, that's a little different. Break up. Yeah. Like, that's

Well, but here's, but here's, but here's, but here's the question. This is the question that guys will ask in this. But was she hot? I didn't ask that. But that is. She must have been because they lasted for a few years after. That's what I'm saying. It's like, it's not great.

It's not great. Is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, is it. It happens. It happened again. It happened again when he was in the shower. Okay. And she's like playing the trumpet like, like Louis Armstrong.

Right. And this is my thing. At first, he was like, that's amazing. The time in the world. Look what I learned it, the supermarket. Okay, you do. All right. At first I was like, he was like, my girlfriend used to, like, it was totally comfortable.

I was like, that's great. She's so brave. Like, what a trailblazer. And then he said that, and I said, oh, no, I take back everything I said that. Because if a guy did that to me, I'd be like, what the hell is wrong with you? start dating? It's like, I'm gonna say something.

You're brushing your teeth, right. I'm gonna say something here. Go ahead, baby. Got thoughts. Okay. My lady and I have been together for six years. Right. Never heard one song.

We have never farted or pooped in front of each other. Not farted? Nope. Because, and we both agree. It's just a class thing. I don't fart in front of you guys. But no,

I'm not saying that. We all do it. We all do it. Of course. It's never slipped, though? I don't think so. In bed? That's what I'm saying.

If it did in bed, we have not acknowledged it. If it happened in bed where we're sleeping or something and one's awake, but we haven't acknowledged it. And like, hey, last night, you fucking woke me up. I wonder, I wonder if that philosophy would change with two children and being married. Maybe it would. Yeah. But we're just, we just don't, here's the thing.

And for the, for the longest time, and this is just a me thing, I would turn the water on when I was peeing. I just like, oh, yeah. Fucking let them know. But now's the point. Like, do I get the zoo sounds again with you today? No, I died. So I'll close the door when I'm, like, I've gotten to the point now where I'm just lazy and I sit down to pee. Half the time. I don't even stand. I'm just like I got to sit down. I'll even close the door on that. I'm just like you don't need to see me sitting here like hey babe. Right

I think it's not I you obviously should be able to talk about it because sometimes someone's in the bathroom and you're like I have to go. I have to go. I have to go. I have to go. I'm doing it. I have to go. I'm not going to be like I'm not going to be like I'm not going to be like I have to go. I got to go. I got to go and so you have to be able to communicate. I'm with you where I do like I'm not going to be like I have. to take a dump. Right. So, like, what's happening right now, honey? If you could go in the other room, that would be great. Right, right, right, right. It's just like, I got to rip it. Yeah, yeah.

Listen to this. Let's compare, let's compare notes. And then I have friends that probably, and I know they probably do this, they probably take giant dumps and they're probably send them to their significant over, like, look at this bad boy. I will tell you to them. Yeah, I've known some people that do that. Not sending them to others, but like, to friends.

Like, this is. Of course you kind of got to take, sends a picture. No, no, no, no, never, never. Yes, you do. No, your face looks like a dump. But no, no, what happened like, this is not too long ago. Oh, here we go. No, they were doing this whole thing with Rocky, this thread on texts between JTE, Ellis and

Oh, Rocky, the movie. Yeah, and it was like, and I'm trying to sleep, and I hear my phone, went ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. So I turned my phone off, and I woke up to just like a... 29 novel, you know? And so, and Ellis was like, oh, just to see what Harlov's going to say in the morning. That's the first thing I'm looking for it's. to rick up all these things. And it was, I walked into the kitchen and I was by myself. And it's like, it's probably the same song that that girl sang to her, to her boyfriend in the, in the bathroom.

I was brushing his teeth into the text. And I was, and I, and I, and then I did this. So you put the audio for it. Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah. It was a nice song. It was a good song. Oh my God. Lou Armstrong. And Fred, JT responded with a big ha-ha. No response from Degnino in, uh, amazing. That's good. All right. Um, anyway. Um, anyway. Um, um, anyway. Speaking of changing of the gas, Dave Filoni has been promoted. Big promotion for Dave Faloni. We'll talk about this. Big promotion right now.

This was big breaking news here. Dave Faloni promoted to the CCO to oversee all future Star Wars storytelling. Carrie Beck is the new head of development. Lucasfilm is undergoing slight, slight structural changes in its leadership. Dave Faloni, former head of animation, who was promoted to executive creative director, Lucasfilm will assume the title of Chief Creative Officer at the company. He revealed the Vanity Fear. In the past, Faluny was brought on board projects once they were already in development,

like the Obi-Wan Kenobi series, which he and John Fabro consultant on. Now he will be there from the beginning, and he told the publication. In this new role, it's opened up basically everything that's going on. When we're planning the future of what we're doing now, I'm involved at the inception phase. I'm not telling people what to do, but I do feel I'm trying to help them tell the best story they want to tell. I need to help across the galaxy here like part of the Jedi Council almost. The announcement comes a month and a half after the end of Asoka on Disney Plus. The first live action series, he was the sole showrunner of.

As Floney explained, it was important for him before taking on a bigger role on the company to get his hands dirty in the day-to-day creative process of live action development after years in the animation division. The first step was to executive produce and direct a few episodes of The Mandalorian back in 2019, aided by the veteran John Favro. With that experience behind him, he then took on the challenge. of creating Asoka from scratch and bringing it to life, Favra was an executive producer there too, but from all accounts, it was Filoni's baby all along.

Now he feels he has what it takes to guide filmmakers to achieve the best story they want to tell in a galaxy far, far away. To truly help filmmakers, it was really important for me to experience it firsthand. I can also lend a perspective on the challenges that telling these stories will present. I feel more capable of actually being helpful outside of just saying, well, Jedi are like this and Sith are like this.

The Vanity Fair article also went out of its way to stress that everything was announced at Star Wars Celebration this past April is still in the works, and Lucasfilm fully intends to release their slate. That includes the live-action series Acolyde and Skeleton Crew, which are in post-production at the moment, but also the feature films from Charmaine Oboid Chinoid, James Mangold, and yes, Dave Faloni. However, it's still unclear what Faluny's next step will be. The season two renewal of Asoka is not official yet. According to the publication, though, Lucasfilm intends to keep expanding the story of the character in whatever way possible. According to Rosario Dawson, Faloni was working for an outline

for season two earlier this year. Now that he has control over what story Star Wars is telling, does he have the power to greenlight it? It doesn't seem that way as there is another big change in the company. Carrie Beck, the veteran producer who worked hand in hand with Faloni on Rebels, was an executive producer on Asoka, will also have a brand new title. Beck is now head of development at Lucasfilm,

which means she will originate and shepherd the next generation of Star Wars shows and movies. She will be in charge of recruiting storytellers for future Star Wars shows and movies before they go to Faloni to ask about what to do narrative. We're oversimplifying it here, obviously. Kathleen Kennedy remains in the leadership seat, though it does seem like she will have fewer responsibilities and will be delegating some of her previous duties to Beck and Faloni.

All right. This is major. And again, that was from the great Miguel Fernandez, a friend of the show, and he's been on the show before. This is major. So we'll go through the positives and the negatives of this. I think the positives are what we've talked about for years. this is what Kathleen Kennedy should have done

from the get-go. She is able to delegate and say, because Lucasfilm is not just Star Wars. Lucasfilm is managing the stuff you got going on in the parks. Lucasfilm is other projects. Lucasfilm is a bunch of other things that's not just Star Wars. So being able to say, okay,

I know that I have these people here that I trust doing that. I have these people here report to me. What are you guys working on? Okay, good. All right, if that's what you guys think is going to work creatively, it's my ass on the line, it's your ass on the line, so let's get it done. this is what they should have done a long time ago.

She's had Carrie Beck and she's had Dave Faloney. She could have made this move years ago, but I think because of now the crap that they've been in over the last couple of years, whether it was forced upon her or whether she finally said, it's time for me to do this. Nonetheless, it's happening, right?

Again, positives inside of this article. Dave Faloni basically saying, look, I can talk to these filmmakers and give them the things that, like, clearly JJ Abrams and other people didn't have or use, where it was like, let's have a conversation with Dave Filoni, who's going to say, look, no, actually I think I would benefit you if you did this, this, and this,

because this happened in our storyline here. The way that he did with all the filmmakers in Mandalorian, Season 1 and Season 2, right? Another positive. Carry back, working very hand-to-hand with Faloni also understands this, put together, rebels, put these things together. She's been part of the family for a bit.

And I think that she is going to, this is also why Asoka Season 2 is a guarantee. They're very close to two of them and that'll work together. So that's a lot of the positives and there's more positives. The negative. I don't believe, as they said,

that Faloni won't be saying no, we shouldn't do that. Let's not green light that. Let's not bring that person to do that. I believe he's already done that. I believe that he does not love certain projects there. I believe that he does, he feels and he hold, and I've said this many times in the

I feel like he holds too damn tight to what Lucas would do. What Lucas would do. There's a lot that I think that's very important. I think it's very important to keep the essence of what George created. Of course it is. But to, I don't think he loves Andor. I don't think he loves, I've never heard him speak about Andor ever. Heard him talk about Obi-Wan, heard him talk about Bobafed, heard him talk about everything.

That was in the Philoniverse. Never heard him say a single word about Andor. And I don't think he liked Knights of the Republic. I think he's probably one of the reasons now that this role that the Knights of Republic game got canceled. I don't think you're ever going to see a show. I don't think you're seeing any of that stuff. And I think he holds it too close to what George would do.

What it wouldn't, like, you compare the writing of Asoka to the writing of Andor. It doesn't even compare. It's like feature film writing as opposed to animation writing. That makes me nervous that that's what we're only going to be looking for in these projects. There should be the Faloni verse and the Faloni Favroverse and there should be other projects. Now, hopefully the Acolyte plays more in the adult version. But those are my positives and negatives.

Steph, where do you lie with this? I think pretty similarly, the more that I, I need to rewatch Mandalorian season one and two, but I think I like Andor more. And I am a little concerned in the fact that my taste is more leaning towards that and that might not really have a voice in Star Wars future if that's the case. Dave Volumie doesn't like it. I think it's good in the sense that if he is just shepherding a creative vision, that could be good if he has really good writers on boards to things.

Because I do think he would be better at that than the writing aspect. What do you think, Mike? Is this a positive, negative, both? Like I said, I see a lot of positive. positives and I see I see some negatives. Okay, so is he now the Figey? It seems like it, which to me is a major positive that they have that role. Right.

I have someone doing that. That's a major positive. There is a position is a positive. Yeah. But if this is going to be like Fagy, like the Follone universe is going to be this. And then the Andor stuff is going to be the Sony adjacent Spider-Man stuff where it's like, it's out there, but we're really not going to, we'll let them have Jedi and Sith, but they're not really. but they're not really going to be, it's more this,

and we're not going to, it's the same, but it's not. Like, again, we've talked about this, and or is what I want Star Wars to be. And again, people are going to come at me, Star Wars is wizards and laser swords, and you're, blah, blah, blah. It's like, okay, I get it, but you gave us that. Right. You fed us it.

And I love that. And Mando 1 and 2, love Mando 3. It's the same thing, but it's different. Well, but it's just, I'm sorry. I'm glad you brought up Mandel 3. I'm convinced that Flonny was barely involved in that season at all. Of three? Of three.

Okay. Because he was working on it. Timeline-wise, how could he be? How could he be? I don't know. What I'm saying is his office was near, I assume. I assume he was probably on set. But how involved was he really?

And the reason they moved Rick up to do executive producing on that show? Because timeline-wise, how in the world could he when he's writing? he wrote the whole entire series of Asoka and he directed two of the episodes, I think. So how in the world could you both balance that at the same time? Well, that's the whole point. The thing is now if he's going to be doing that and he's going to be back and off,

how much is he going to be involved in certain things? How much is he going to involve in Soka? How much is he going to be involved in his movie? And how much is he going to throw down that, like, the gauntlet of, you know, well, George wouldn't do it this way. Please stay away from that. Let people take chances.

That is a detriment to Star Wars, if that is the case. Now, I don't know if it is, but if it's only like, no, we'd only do it this way. That is a big mistake. We need to address them. If he is going to be the Fagie and he's, you know, Fagie never said like, this is the way Stan Lee wanted it. And he realized that there were creators before him with the MCU.

This is his version of the MCU of Star Wars, Faloni. But Lucas, there was no Star Wars before Lucas. Right. So it's a tough thing to say. like it needs to branch out. If it's going to grow, it needs to branch and do outside of what George Lucas would do. Because if you look like,

there's a lot of stuff inside of Asoka that is way more Star Wars than Andor is. There's no doubt about it. And as far as the essence of what Star Wars is, there's, but the more mature, better written, better produced, better looking show is Andor.

The more exciting show is Asoka. But like you've got to be able to blend that together and not just do something like Assook. Because Obi-Wan, we all agree, was a big misfire. It was a big misfire. There's some great stuff in it, but for the most part, it's a misfire. Same thing.

Imagine the kind of in-depth writing that you had on something like Andor in the Obi-Wan series or even in the Asoka series. A little more depth, again, with these 34-40-minute episodes, 34-35-minute episodes, expand on it.

And I hope that's one of the notes, right? And the other thing is, too, in a negative, well, he hasn't produced, because Fagie had produced a lot of movies before becoming, he's on the first X-Men. So he's, so, he knows what he's doing.

He knows what he's doing. He knows what he's doing. But again, inside of creative, and working with Carrie Beck, again, I think this is overall a positive in the way because of what we just said. You have someone who is now saying, okay, at least is a plan.

That's, what we've always been saying that. At least even if we don't necessarily love the plan, and the plan is let's stick by everything that George, and the philosophies of everything that George wanted to do. And like I said, I do think that that is a positive for when it comes to the quote that we say all the time, that, and Favreau said this, the problem I think like J.J. Abrams and these other people were doing, were making movies that was an homage to Star Wars as they were making an homage to the stuff that Star Wars was inspired by.

That kind of stuff, if you're going to hold that philosophy, I'm on board. But when it comes to, like, you know, there was a lot of mistakes that I think George Lucas made. In that, like, there's more prequel writing in the Asoka stuff to me than original trilogy writing. Now, there's also an original trilogy feel. We said that is some, like, there's a couple scenes. You're like, oh, this feels like. For Mandor. Well, there was some stuff in Asoka.

When we saw the first two episodes, we were like, on the big screen, it looked really good. So I am excited for Faloni's movie. I like the Faloni verse in general. but him running the whole thing if he starts to blend into this kind of animation style for everything, it could be a problem. I guess for me, if I'm just stepping back from it, I'm looking at it's like, okay, he created rebels,

Clone Wars, that's his thing. If his universe will focus on that, I might not be as enjoyable as it. Right. It just might not be for me. As As Soka, as I said, is like, people came at me because I didn't like it, but I was like, if you were a fan of Clone Wars and Rebels,

that shows for you. And you were just, love and life and it was great for you. So it just didn't work for me. Two inside baseball? Not even that. I just was like, the characters were fine. I didn't, I just didn't care for that kind of stuff. It was like, you know, I would prefer, honestly, and here we go, this will be a bad take for me, but I would prefer to watch Boba Fett over Asoka if I had a pick with two. Okay. And again, Boba Fett is space wizards and laser swords out there. Yeah, I'm not on that page, but I know you're not. But I just, it just, it hit better for me.

I also feel like there's an inherent difference between Andor and Asoka in the sense that we both know what's going to happen in both of those shows. But I feel like Andor made it mean more to me than Asoka. I'm like, you wanted so bad to bring back the troops and then you made this story around it. Kind of. Does that make sense? It's like not as organic to me. even though they both happened. Yeah, that's writing.

It's just the writing. Do you feel stuff that way with Rogue One? Like, we all know the outcome. That's what she's saying. But no, not Android, Rogue One. We know the outcome in a two-hour movie. We knew what was happening. Right, right.

But we loved it because the characters we were with. Well, you're setting up new characters. You're setting up because even when we were talking about Rogue One when it came out, you're like, well, they all have to die. Yeah. And they do. And you're like, oh, but it was the way that they wrote it. It was the way that they did it.

It had an impact. And I think there's also a reason why it's funny. Like, that movie, Rogue One, has done I've done this poll and it was overwhelming if you would have asked the question of what was the best Disney movie

I was just going to ask you that since if you would have done that question in 2016 2017 overwhelmingly or 2017 overwhelming would have been the Force Awakens overwhelmingly today it's overwhelmingly

and work I mean Rogue One so you're saying after Rogue One came out like a year or two after it people still would have said force it ages better than anything in the new trilogy absolutely

It does. I think it's of its, what do they make? Five movies? Yeah. The three and then solo. And yeah, right. So out of the five, Rogue is easily the best. Easily.

And it took a lot of work to get there. And again, Tony Gilroy has done that. And Tony Gilroy has essentially made the series finale already for Andor. So that's the thing when people say, when people say, well, we really know what happens. Yeah, but you're essentially watching the series finale. Plus there's a lot of, I don't know what happens to some of these characters that set up that the Andy Circus character. Like Ma'amothma, we don't.

Monmouthma, the way where she goes eventually, how, like, the way they set up. Like, it's politically, it's just the smartest thing written since. And again, let me make it clear. Let me make it clear that there's, this is a pure speculation on me that Filoni doesn't like this show. But I just never hear him talk about it in the way that he's talked about. I've heard him talk a great depth on Boba Fett,

great depth on, it's, on all these other shows, Obi-1 and he was a business and you play the business you don't- You don't bash a thing you don't like you just don't talk about it right but isn't that isn't that a problem though if it's if it's like if this thing is now one of these shows that It's been nominated out the wazoo for for certain awards sure and he's not and he's gonna be the guy who's running it and he does he's not talking about it hasn't talked about it at all really I mean and I if I am wrong and it very well might be please send me articles where he's talking about it like in depth because wouldn't you want to get Faloni's take on Andor? Like I would love to hear his take on. I've never heard it. Never really heard him go in depth than him because I don't believe he supports it. And yeah, I wish, I want to hear him say he loves it, but I feel like what I just rewatched the Nolan Batman trilogy.

And I feel like Andor is kind of like the difference between the Nolan trilogy and let's say Batman v. Superman and the other Batman's. You know, where it just, it's like camp versus a... Detail. Yeah, like a real, not real movie. I know what you're saying. Is it too feree? Is it too fuge to say cinema versus movie? Yeah, maybe.

Like, that's what it feels. Like, when I was watching Dark Night, I'm like, oh, my God. And that's how I feel when I'm watching Andor too, where I'm like, oh, my God. You guys are like really setting up this world in such a deep way. To say that, that's kind of why for me, the Batman, I still love it, but it's like, it goes more to the Nolan trilogy. Whereas I'm at the point now with my superheroes, I want some

superhero in my superhero movies. Like, I just, you know, and that's one of the reasons the flash hits well for me. They let him be a superhero. They weren't like you said, the more grounded, more... I get what you guys are both saying. Like Logan. Yeah, I get what you guys are saying. So you're actually, and it's funny because you're actually

making the point for a lot of fans that are, again, people are going to be very much on board with this decision. Of course. I think everyone's going to love that majority. Yes. And because of what you're saying, they just want Star Wars in Star Wars.

To be fun. They want to be fun. And yeah, which I get. And that's one of the major points with, with the, what will happen here, one of the major positives is that Flonie will get people,

you can't deny that, even if you didn't love Assoca, it still feels like Star Wars. Yeah. I mean, his stuff feels like Star Wars. The second is when you see Mandalorian, like he knows, he gets the essence of it.

That's a major, major positive here on what, and probably a reason why this is happening because if he can get that, if he watches something, and that's my, I guess it's the, it's just a disagreement.

Maybe it's a disagreement. Maybe he looks, maybe he's gonna, he's gonna be looking around at things going, well, that's not Star Wars and what I would do with Star Wars here and given, and I feel, again,

no basis in reality of why I feel this, but like he is going, yeah, and or, because remember I kept saying, with celebration, I kept telling you that when Tony Gilroy was on stage at celebration,

he was talking about three seasons in Vandor. And he was talking about three seasons, and Diego Luna's like, I only signed up for two. And Gilroy was like hammered home that he wanted those three. And I've gotten pushback on that, but maybe it's a Mandela effect. I have no idea, but I remember being in that audience

going, oh, they're going to do three? I thought it was two. I wouldn't be surprised if Filoni was like, two's good, you know, and maybe, because he's got a very short. strong voice as he should at Lucasfilm. But like, I don't know, man. I just think that, you know,

and this is something I said to some of the other day when I think I was talking to you about it, when we were talking about Rebels writing, right? And I said that if Asoka was an animated show. Yeah, this is J. Yeah, it would have played really, really well because there's certain things in animation, the writing, you can, you can, and not

because it's kiddish or anything, but it's just a different style. Someone's like, well, I disagree. Rebels was Rebels was written very well and it was an animated show. I was like it was but if you took the writing from Rebels and you made that exact script in live action

doesn't play the same way. That's the point. I would never want them to take into the Spiderverse to make that live action. It wouldn't work. It just wouldn't work. It just wouldn't animation in film is different and it just because you can edit things differently and the flow feels differently and

the way you can animate your characters to do whatever you need them to do as opposed to to deal with an actor that's got choices and it's just lines and actors read differently and it's just... It's less human like, you know, I'm a big anime fan. And you love rebels. Right.

I love rebels, but it's the constant groan that we all have when we know that they're going to remake an anime show to live action. The one that's done it good... Cinderella. Well, anime is one piece. Oh, one piece. One piece is really good. The anime is

better. And And like, I have no, I have no basis in that except I've seen live action. So when we're talking about, like, rebels, I feel the exact same. If rebels is great. If you did our live action rebels, which they did, it's not as good to me. I think that, though, that does come with writing, though, too. I think that you could expand upon a story. Like, I do think that if they had.

You have to switch it a little. I think that there's certain characters and certain things inside of it. And if you would have developed certain things a little bit more, Asoka could have been further developed. And one of the things that I talk about with the Obi-Wan thing all the time, It was like little things that were just left on the table. We talk about like the Obi-One's brother. I bring it up all the time.

That was the best part of that script. That writing was he's talking about, I had a brother. And then he just goes away. You never hear about it ever again. But where's that? And there was a great moment you have with Leah. It's like, we get it. We get it that it's like faster, strong, whatever the faster more intense, whatever the,

they're going by that philosophy, that's an error. That is an error to just go the faster, more intense. We're in a different time now, especially with television. You've got to build characters. That's why a lot of these shows, whether it's Game of Thrones and, I mean, stranger things, there's development inside of character to make us care more and not just, oh, look at this, we have a ship. And that's why Ander develops on character, and that's why so many people are responding to it. And I think that if there was a show that Filoni did that had that element of what Andor has, it would blow Andrew out of the water.

If you had what, if Asoka had Andor's writing, Andor's in a backseat. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just not thinking back to just how many characters we fell in love with like Cyril, Cyril's mom. Right. Like the uncle we never even met, but we had time of Dedra.

Yeah. All these characters because we were with them week after week. And just they were the, it wasn't like 22 minutes animated. You've got to get it in. You've got the attention span of, you know, that time and they've got to hit it fast. Whereas like, I think that went into, uh, Soka, I was just like, no, slow down. Right, like who are the witches to everyone? Right.

You know, they showed them once and then didn't develop them. And then they show her like transforming. It's like what's happening? Because it's stuff in animation you can get away with. Right. Because you don't have to, because it's just like it's just happening. It's moving. And again, it's that faster, more intense.

And it's like, no, just develop it. Tell me a little bit more about it. And that's what I worry about when it comes to the grand scheme of things. If it's just, if that's what it is for Mandalorian, and that's what it is for the things that's connected into the Philon universe. Well, that's what it is. That's a style.

When it transforms to all of Star Wars, and with superheroes movies, we're getting tired of just fluff. We're getting tired of it. We want more, like, the audience is looking for more development. You treat the audience a little smarter because, and I brought this point up about, like, Echo. Now, I don't know what the show is going to be like.

I have no idea. But one of the reasons everybody responded to that trailer because it was different. It didn't seem like the same old fluff that we were getting. from and not just Marvel from DC and these other things we're getting this in Star Wars getting the same old fluff and it's like that looks different that looks and it doesn't have to be dark it doesn't have to all these things don't have to have blood in it

but again and reason why and or hit for people that was because it was developed and you were you were like invested in the story in that that that jail breaks this episode is one of the best episodes in television that year right so it's I do think there's more positives than negatives. Yeah, me too. I think that the negatives for me are more of a concern than it is a negative because, and five years ago, I probably would have done a four-hour episode of Jedi Council why this is the best decision Star Wars ever made. Yeah.

But times change. We have times changed, and I think because of, and I just think from being in media this long and watching the way that companies are held, I just think it's super telling that you can find articles where Faloni is talking about. Osoka and Obi-Wan and Boba-Fet silence on Andor. Silence. And that's telling to me.

But I don't know. I could be wrong. What do you guys think? Let me know in the comments. Do you think this is an amazing moment for Lucasfilm? It is a big move also because it does, it does, I think, Miguel kind of mentions this in the article, which we didn't really touch on. And we should, actually, before I move on.

this is also the first steps of Kathleen Kennedy not being in charge 100% of, and I don't want to say this in a way that's like, of course you're going to say that. But this is a good thing for Star Wars because, and not for because, like, Kathleen Kennedy stinks. It's because she shouldn't be that involved in that, and have that much responsibility for, not because of the role itself is because mentally, you're working on all these different things. and you got to figure out what's going on and Star Wars here, do this, do that. Like as I said in the beginning here,

trust in the people you have. So having these two roles of both Carribeck and Faloni and having Kathleen Kennedy being able to run Lucasfilm and not just Star Wars, is this a good thing? Yeah, I think so, because I think she should just be the greatest producer that she is and focus on that, like focus on the promotion and the interview, like the whole, how you're getting the movies out.

Like, she can sell. So what if, like, this is the kind of thing now that she can do. And besides just selling, right, she can make the calls. And she can make the calls to make it happen. So, Faloni and Beck are in the room. And they're, and I'm just saying, like, hypothetically. They're like, oh, you know what? I just watched the killer last night.

And we came up with this crazy idea of stormtroopers and this. And like, but it would really be great if we had, like, a David Fincher to be able to do something like this. but I don't know I can't let's go to Kathy let's see if she'll make the call and you go look we have this thing we want can you make the call and really we want to get Fincher on board

and she calls and she gets Fincher and the relationships that she has that's what a producer does or Spielberg or somebody you know what I mean like I'm just throwing the names out that she her rolydex is vast yeah but then does it come back you get Fincher you bring her to the table and he's like this is what I want to do this what I'm seeing Phyllian's like yeah it's not

really something that George in the George Star Wars maybe so but that's That's on Philoni and Kerry Beck to go. They should know that before they make that phone call. If you bring in someone like Fincher in, he brings... He's supposed to return of the Jedi, by the way. What's up?

He was worked on. He worked on it. He worked on it. Not supposed to do it. But anyway, but my point more so is not Fincher in general, but just the name that, like, she can get it done in the way, like, in the way that they can't. And that's what people don't give her 40 years. And people don't give her credit that way because of the other stuff that I think, rightfully so she gets the criticism for.

But there's a lot of things that she can get done that a lot of producers can't. And that's what now she can focus on as opposed to like saying, well, we should do this movie instead of this movie and put that person in there. Let them do that. Now her husband is Rob Marshall, right? Now, he's also a very successful producer. But he's also much more

behind the scenes. It's older now. Yeah, but if she would have taken what his path was and not been the figure every time a new Star Wars thing is announced, people wouldn't lump it with her. Right, you're right. So maybe she likes that little kind of limelight that he's kind of like, I'm a producer, I'm making great movies. I think so, and that's a great point.

Because Steph, like, that's the thing, though, where we've talked about this, this also gives her chance to, if she can, step back. Let Dave Faloni come out at Star Wars Celebration and announce the slate. Let's let Dave Faloni bring out the people and go, hey, guys, we're doing this, because the audience is going to respond to that and say, okay, because he can tell you, he loves Star Wars more so than I assume Kathleen Kennedy does because we've been in the room. Kathleen Kennedy is looking at the prompter and she's reading off the prompter and it doesn't seem like it's coming from up here.

It seems like she's just she's reading the prompter because she's an executive. You don't, you want the Kevin Feigey and whether it's Faloni and Beck or just Faloni, I think this is one of the main positives because you need Faloni and or Beck or both of them together coming out doing this conversation. Yeah, yeah. I think that I think she. needs to hire like the greatest assistant ever or like an in-house manager who just is like if you want to be on camera like this is what we need to change. I think this is I think this is that

change. That would be great. Yeah. I think this is that she like when there's stock stuff, when there's announcements about the company, when there's things that are even if it's like okay, hey, we're we have a big announcement or whatever it might be and she makes it a big announcement. But when it comes to like certain movies, let Faloni go out there now. Let him be the. the speaking of because he's got what he does have, whether we have certain concerns about him running it, he's got the public's opinion. And Lucasfilm does not have the public right now.

Like the Lucasfilm in general doesn't, but he does it. So this is why this is a good move, especially if you're going to let him make the announcements, let him be the public figure, let him be the one who's going to go out there. When it comes to Star Wars, right? When it comes to Lucasfilm stuff, she should be out there doing what she does because she runs Lucasfilm. If he's going to run Star Wars, let him be the person that does it.

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Here's a second story. Big news all the way around. We got the Superman cast is starting to fill up. Now, as they are ready announced, David Corencewet is, of course, Superman. Rachel Brosnahan is Lois Lane. And then we got Nicholas Holt as Lex Luthorter, which is fantastic. Fantastic casting. Two more.

Join the crew, and that is both Jimmy Olson and Miss Tessmacher. Miss Tesmacher! Warner Brothers pictures. Gene Hackman. Has set. Skyler Gazondo from Santa Clarita's Diet, Book Smart, as Daily Planet photographer, Jimmy Olson, and Portuguese actress model Sarah Simpio,

who is from at midnight and billions as Lex Luthor's doting assistant, Eve Testmacher, in James Gunn's new Superman legacy film. Olson is a core part of Superman lore working alongside Clark Kent and Lois Lane in the Daily Planet Jack Lars and Mark McCor Michael Lans Justin Wilm's Sam Hunted

Michael Cassidy Aaron Ashmore and McCodd Brooks have all played the role in the past Test Mocker first appeared in Richard Donner's original 1978 Superman film and was a creation of several people including the godfather author Mario Puzzo So was she created Mike in the movies

Was she not in the comics? I know it's from the 70s But I don't remember her being in the comic after before that. I like that they're doing that. The castings come hot off the heels of the announcement that Nicholas Holt is Lex Luthor,

which also has David Cornswet and Rachel Brosnahan. Also on board, Nathan Fillion as Guy Gardner, Isabella Merced as Hawkgirl, Edie Gathighi, as Mr. Terrific, Anthony, Carrigan as Rex Mason, metamorpho, and Maria Gabriela de Ferrier as Angela Spica, the engineer. The new film follows Superman as he looks to reconcile

his kryptonian heritage with his human upbringing. He is the embodiment of truth, justice in the American way, guided by human kindness in a world that sees kindness as old-fashioned. Gun pen the script, while DC Studios co-boss, Peter Safran, produces. Comes out July 11, 2025. Mike, I'm going to start with you. You're the DC guy. Yep.

So we both talked about Brosnahan and Corn Sweat. That's who we said. When they were three for each, we were both like, it's these two. It's got to be those two. And then I said it would be a mistake. If you don't get this kid, Nicholas, Holt as Lex Luthor. Well, he was,

it was between him and Cornswit at the very end there. And my thought was, it's going to corn sweat, but I go, Holt, they're going to do Batman. They're going to give him Batman because he did go for Pattinson's,

but I was like, no wait, Batman's going to be older, he's going to have a kid, doesn't fit it. And then that's when I was like, this guy's Lex. He's Lex,

and he looks, there's no way he's killing it at these auditions. Yeah. And again, night and day rolls. So, but he's such a versely, he to me is what I think of

with Chris Pine where he's such a good looking guy, but he is a character actor trapped in a leading man's body. That guy. 100%. He is a character actor. And he's got a dark side to him, and he can play it very well.

And then I love the casting. I'm not as familiar with the woman who's playing Ms. Tessmacher. She's barely been in, she's primarily a... Ms. Tesmacher! Shosh your hole. No, the fans are going to love that. Go ahead. In the middle of Steph speaking?

I just Googled her. She's a Victoria Secret Angel. Okay. Delightful. She was the first port. Portuguese Sports Illustrated model. So, but I think she's done appearance. I haven't seen her in these shows, but I think she was primarily a model.

And then now this is like a big role, which is cool. And I think that this kid, this Skylar Gazondo, he has. I love him. Mike said it as it came up. The perfect look for Jimmy. Look at him. Perfectly. James Gunn casts brilliantly.

Yes. He casts brilliantly. You know, there's something. How can we tiptoe? I don't want tiptoe on this. Say it. There's just something sometimes. about casting.

They're going to go nuts. That is Jimmy Olson. You're going to put him in a bow tie and it's going to be Jimmy Olson. Right. Like, you know how it is. We had a conversation beforehand about casting and there's the rumors now

with Fantastic Four and people look at it and they're like, well, we had to cast Patriot Pascal because it was looking too white. And people, everyone, are coming out, even people of color, saying, what's wrong? It's the Fantastic Four. Just cast the Fantastic

for. Right. So they could have, that was a role, Superman, you weren't going to change, you weren't going to change Lois Lane. That was a role depending if it was a different director, a different studio, might have said, let's go a different route with it. You know, and they did it on Supergirl. Right. Well, I... And that's everyone's going to go nuts. That's Jimmy Olson.

You're going to put a bowtie on him. Yeah. And he's just say, golly, Mr. Kent. Well, it's going to kill it. Right. Miss Tesmocker, could be anybody. Right, because it's not, because the role is not a Jimmy Olson. It's not, it's Miss Testmocker. It's half the people that didn't even want to Don't know what she does.

And she could make this role her own. And then you're like, that's Mrs. Testmark. And like, no one's going to be able to replace her even though, you know. Valerie Pryan was pretty spectacular. You're a kid growing up seeing Miss Test Mocker? She didn't even know who Miss Tessmacher was, is what I'm saying. For Steph, she could be like Miss Tessmocker. And then they try to replace.

I don't know. I mean, she was, she had a major role of what she basically does in the first movie. It's major. She's her voluptuous, blonde hair, giant boobs out. She's not blonde. She wears a blonde wig for a second, but it's not blonde. Okay, here we go. Come on, man.

I think you're a DC fan. What color was your hair then? It was red. Sandy blonde. It was red. Get the hell. No, it wasn't. Yeah.

No, it wasn't. Okay. Want to bet on what do you win a bit? Steak dinner? No, because you don't pay up, you bet. Shut your mouth. Shut your mouth. Shut your mouth.

Miss Testmocker, she was like a sandy blonde. See? Sandy blonde. Redhead. Shut your mouth. Hold on. Shut your hole. What's that? What is that?

Don't click on the color corrected picture. Click on the first one. I don't know. See, what is that? What is that? What is that? Red or Sandy blonde? It's, I would say that's like a brawn.

A blonde? Yeah. That ain't even a word. Yeah, it is for women. Oh, Jesus Christ. Wait, I love her hair. Let's see what the 1970s. Let's see what the audience says.

Gosh, I love the 70s. Here we go. We can do a poll. I think it's more brown. I think it's more brown. Okay. There will go brown. It's more brown.

No blonde, no red. So it's a push. But she did that big wig in the one scene. That's what I remember. Yeah, for sure. In the end of the first one. With Lee, not Lee Hagman, Hagman, Larry Hagman.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was the general. Yeah. So, anyway. But casting-wise, like, the roles that you can play with, you play with, but the leads, these iconic kind of characters, especially with DC, you're hitting it out of the park, you're starting over, you've got to knock this out of the park.

You can't, this Superman has to hit. This movie, And it's the first one out the gate, like you said. So it's like if, if this fails, you're in trouble. Like his casting, like, okay, look at, look it back with Drax, Gimore, and these roles. Like, there was no idea of what it needed to look like. But he nails with casting, whether he always seems to cast the best person for the role. Like, look at how many people fell in love with Drax.

And to take a chance on a wrestler. Yeah. And he made a minute. He does. He knows how to cast. But he not only knows how to cast. He gets the best out of his actors. And, like, speaking of wrestlers, like, I never thought Sino was that good in anything that he was really in.

He was in a couple. Like, he was in. I agree completely. Like, he was good in train wrecked for the brief thing that he was in. He was good in cockbockers. It's all the same character, though. Same character, more or less, you know, the dopey kind of, you know, buff guy.

Yeah. The buff guy. What James Gun got out of him in both the suicide squad and peacemaker. I mean, it made me, it made me, like, a fan of John Cena. Oh, same. I had a full turn on him. Because I, sometimes I'm like, oh, man, it's just like you're, it's so kind of camp act. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to say something.

I love that character. Let her finish. No, I just, that movie, the suicide squad and his show is just, I love John Cena now. I'm like, I'm a fan. I was never a big peacemaker fan from the 80s, but I do remember him. Yeah. But I remember him completely wrong because I'm now rereading a series called Checkmate from the 80s where peacemaker shows up. He is 100% gun.

and seeing his character. The over the top, Mr. Patriot, like... He acts the same in the... From the 80s. That's encouraging. And I thought, I remember back as like, I thought it was more kind of serious

and I thought they were kind of doing a play on it. No, he's 100% the character from the 80s and they... Which is encouraging, right? It does kind of prove the point that Gunn is a fan of this stuff. He does. He knows his research.

He knows what he's doing. So, I mean, we're... I think that the casting should show that, you know, he's casting in the story that he wants to make. Yeah. And this is encouraging. I think it's a really good cast. I'm excited to see overall how they're going to play with it.

I am a little curious how they're going to play the whole Nathan Philly and stuff. I wanted to be a little bit more of a story with the story of Superman more so than other world. You think it's populated with a lot of other characters. I don't think it's going to be. I think they're going to be really short scenes. I think there's going to be so many cameo type roles in this. and this is all to like fluff out the story. I mean, look what he did with the Suicide Squad, though.

That was a massive cast. And I felt, except for the ones they, even the ones they killed off at the beginning, they all had their moments. But it was quick. It was quick, but you all felt like javelin. Yeah. Right. But you still focused on Harley Quinn.

It's like, you want you to take my javelin. You can have this like it was like. Yeah, so good. But it focused on the core three or four of them. Right. All right. Well, look, so again, let's hear from you guys. What do you think about the casting of Nicholas Holt?

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You do it, I'm telling you, bust the nuts off. Buts the nuts off of them. All right, let's get to the last. have that saying for free. Nuts.com, you can have that. These nuts will bust the nuts off your friends. Yeah, I'll let them know about that one. Please do. Aren't you glad we're all back together? The band is back, baby! This is a story that we've got to get into because I got to get, because this is hilarious with stuff set here. Ralph Machio and Jackie Chan are set for the Karate Kid film. Ralph Machio and Jackie Chan are the star of the 1984 and in 2010

remake, respectively are set to reprise their popular characters for the new Karate Kid film at Sony pictures. Award-winning, I'm not okay with this, and the end of the effing world creator, Jonathan Entwistle, is directing the untitled feature, which the studio says will continue to mythology of the original franchise. A global search for a new actor to play the title character launched today with Chan and Machio appearing in a new video that you can see below. Rob Lieber, who wrote The Peter Rabbit, while plot specifics are under wraps, it said that the story is going to follow a teenager from China who is now living in the U.S. East Coast. they find strength and direction via martial arts and a tough but wise mentor.

Karen Roosevelt is producing the film, which aims to begin shooting in the spring ahead of a December 13th, 2024 release. Previously, it was teased that it was going to be a Mr. Miyagi prequel, though that is not the case. The final season of the beloved Cobra Chi series, starring Macho is also filming shortly ahead of a late 2024 release. All right, the first thing I ask is now, after reading all that, you know who Ralph Macho is now?

I know who Ralph Macho is now. Now you do? Because I obviously know the karate kid. Right. He was my first crush. Well, not, no, no he wasn't. Yes, he was. No, you can't have a first crush on somebody

to not know their name. Okay, I didn't know. I was a child and didn't look up actors' names. She didn't say, who is that? You weren't even born when the first karate kid came out. I hate when people say stupid things like that. Oh, do you? You fucking hear when they say that?

You stupid thing like that? Why would dickhead? Like, after it came out, it was never seen a, Never again. It came out in 194 and then it just disappeared. Obviously I saw the karate. So you're saying to be people would rather if they saw movies on DVD, uh, BHS first and then like, oh, that's my crush? No.

No, but you said it just, the way you said it was like she couldn't have seen it. You know, that's not what I meant. So Ralph Macho is not the same kid from the sandlot though. No. No, see? Both of those are my crushes. See, the sandlot you probably saw first. They were tan kings.

I didn't know Ralph Montcio was white until like in Iraq. Italian. Tan kings. Oh, yeah, spicy white. Yeah. TAN kings and spicy white? Yeah, Italians are spicy whites. That's me.

They come with us. I'm Italian. Yeah, Kalinowski, real Italian. In the color wars, we take the Italians. What's that? In the color wars, we take the Italians with us. Spicy white, I like that. That's how I'm going to use myself in castings from now.

What's your description? White and I'm spicy white. Like George Clooney. Mike. Mike got all scrapy. George Clooney? Spicy white. Oh, he's spicy white. For sure.

That salt and pepper bastard. Yeah. Hey, listen. Cluny. I'll tell you what. I'm not gay, but. I'll tell you what Clooney did back in the facts of life days to me. Me and Mrs. Gary, double-teamed them.

What? Thank you. Double-team? No. Just to ask Mrs. Garrett to spank me with a ruler. I always thought that was Richard Kine when you were doing that. That guy. And that's your buddy.

Richard, yeah, but the guy that I went to school with, hey, listen, not for nothing, but Kalanowski's a good old creepy once Stephton told him a spicy Italian. and whatnot. Spicy meatball. I can go fart in front of my significant other. Not for nothing. Spicy king. Spicy king.

Spicy white. Dated a girl named Larina. Lorina. She was a real, she was spicy, if you know what I mean. She said a Chinese food. Eat it in the yard.

Lorena. Lorena. All right. So, Jackie Chan and Ralph Macho doing a movie together. The one thing, though, that is interesting,

because Sony's doing this movie, obviously. Okay. No mention of John Hurwitz, Josh Heald or Hayden Schlossberg creators of Coburkeye. Aren't... I thought they were tasked, tagged into doing something. There's working on something else that's out. They got something.

They're working on Netflix right now. The Cricket team is doing this. Yeah, it just came out. I forget the name of it and I feel bad. But either way, they are... It's not Diabetes. I don't remember what is. But either way, they are not involved in this, I don't think, which is interesting.

Interesting. Oh, you know what's so random? Yeah. One of my improv friends who's become one of my closest friends this year, she was in Copacai, but I never watched it. Annalise Cochran. Let me see. Hold on.

See if I know who she is. She's just a pure gem of a human. Okay. I tell you that. I love her. So talented. She just played Romeo in the Santa Monica Playhouse, Romeo and Juliet. Oh, she's got a pretty big role.

Yeah, she's amazing. Get her on the show, stuff. Okay. Got everybody else on the show. We had a show low on the show. We need some more Cobra-Kai people in the show. Okay. I'm sure. So do you think that it's, do you need the Cobra Cuy guys in this?

Or could you do another karate? Because remember, Karate Kid, don't forget, because this is the one that, this is the reason why. This is interesting. Okay, good. I'm listening. You're saying, you're like, this is an little. Like, this is interesting. And I leaned closer into the talking.

So it's like your Austin Powers thought came out. It's just like you just thought and spoke. Yeah. All right. So. Fuck, I'm glad you're back. Well, the reason why when it comes to, people forget this. Karate Kid 1, Karate Kid 2, pretty beloved.

Cryotic Kid 3 was not beloved. And no, it was not. What about four? Definitely not. I didn't mind. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine.

But it's not the ones people think about. It's not the two. No. When Cobra Chi season one came out, people like, oh my God, they're doing a karate kid again. It was on YouTube, right? It came out on YouTube.

And I was one of those people. And then you watch it like, oh, these guys. So all three of those guys, they treat Karate Kid the way that, like, we treat Star Wars. And they, you treat D.C. And they love it. They love it.

And you could tell throughout all the seasons that they're doing. And it's changed in tone as the season's gone, but it's still super entertaining in general. What I don't want, except especially Sony, what they do is because they've revitalized the Karate Kid brand. Those guys revitalized the brand. They revitalized Ralph Macho's career.

They revitalized Williams Zapka's career. And I wonder if they were even approached. I would like to, because the reason why I don't think that they were is because when they announced this movie, they announced a Crotid movie movie was coming. I remember all three of the guys going, I don't know what the hell this is. And they didn't know what it was.

I don't even think they consulted with them. You gotta consult with them. Let me ask you this. Yeah. Because I don't watch The Crouty Kid Show. This is Jackie Chan is from the movie with Jaden Smith, right?

Yeah. So that is its own world. And then we got the show which, Jackie Chan's movie, does it reference the Machio Pat Marita stuff? It's almost like it's almost like a multiverse. Okay.

So what are we doing here? Is he Daniel Leruso? No, he's not. He's not going to be Daniel Oruzzo. Oh, no, no, no, no. Ralph Machi was. I thought you meant I didn't know. Oh, I didn't know if he could have called them. They can't spicy white. But is Jackie Chan being? He wasn't Mr. Miyagi. He's not being Miyagi. So that doesn't make sense. He wasn't Mr. Miyagi in the other. Okay, so we're getting.

So they're trying to combine two different worlds. Oh, oh. But they're trying to combine now two different worlds. Yeah, which is fine. I mean, it's Jackie Chan. It's Jackie Chan. You can do whatever. It's like two. It's basically the, it's basically the, it's basically the, The two guys are going to probably help this new kid, and it combines it. So I think that if they do it the right way, it could work. Do you think they're going to have something like Jackie Chan is like, oh, I knew your old master. Maybe.

Maybe so. He with the bonsai tries and, oh, you did wax on, wax off? Yes, I know that is. But the question that I have with all of that is that are they going, if they're not going to acknowledge or they're not going to include the guys, are they going to acknowledge that you know the Cobra Kai universe well are they shepherds of that franchise or are they

I don't know it's an interesting thing how Sony has the if it's Sony movie yeah and these guys did YouTube with it and then went to Netflix yeah I don't know I don't know it's also funny or is it gonna be to your point Jackie Chan can do whatever he want

there it's the karate kid which karate is Japanese and they are doing a well yeah yeah yeah Kung Fu and So much is Chinese. Karate is Japanese. But to your guys' point,

the world, social media, internet, they know Cobra Kai. Right now. Now. And you do remember the 80s karate kid. It did well,

the Jackie Chan, Jade Smith, but it's not like a beloved, younger people that know Cobra Kai, there are going to be a lot of audience that knows Cobra Kai.

Right. Oh, I wonder if this is going to connect. And I wonder if you're going to see Sholo Mediduania. Are you going to see, you know, Billy Zapka. And the answer is probably no, it doesn't seem like it.

But should. It should at least. In a small way. And a small way. You should have to have him or something. He doesn't need to. He's got enough of a role in the COBRA Kye. He's got enough in a role.

Maybe I want to see a minute, though. Well, good for you. All right. But that's, I mean, I'm so curious to what everybody thinks on all these topics. There's three big topics today on the casting of Superman. Here we go. One last thing. I think the reason we're getting this movie with Machio and Chan is because

Kobra Kai was such a hit. I just said the exact same thing. And I don't think so. I mean, it's literally the point that I made. You didn't say it in that words, though. In that words? Yes. That was a summary of what he said.

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