The Kristian Harloff Show - HUGE! Congress will be briefed on new UFO files. Miami Mall incident +TMZ doc could leak footage

Episode Date: January 9, 2024

Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow There is so much happening right now!! Congress will be briefed on information on what David Grusch knew. How much? It could be a little, could be a lot. The big news could be the documentary that Jeremy Corbell is doing with TMZ. What will be leaked in this doc. New footage? New info? It drops today! NOTE (This was filmed before the jellyfish UFO footage was leaked) Finally we discuss the supposed Miami Mall Alien incident. What was real? Fake? This and more on today's show. We are thrilled to welcome Pavel who breaks down these stories and more. Enjoy and please subscribe!  #ufo #UAP #ufoleak #leak #footage #congres #government #military OUR SPONSORS: TRADE: Right now, Trade is offering a free bag with select subscription plans when you visit http://www.drinktrade.com/bigthing. FUM: Head to http://www.TryFum.com/BIGTHING and use my code "BIGTHING" for an additional 10% off plus BOGO Cores until Jan 14th to help make starting The Good Habit that much easier. NUTRAFOL: http://www.Nutrafol.com/ men, and enter promo code BIGTHING AG1: Try AG1 and get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs with your first purchase exclusively at http://www.drinkAG1.com/BIGTHING. PAVEL CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/@psicoactivop... @psicoactivopodcast OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-... FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff TWITTER - https://twitter.com/kristianharloff FACEBOOK - https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls...

Welcome back, everybody. It is UAP Tuesday, the big thing. And there is stuff to talk about. As always, there's a new documentary coming out, TMZ that Jeremy Corbell is involved with. And I think it's interesting that TMZ is the one that's doing it with him. And we'll talk about that for sure because we'll even show you guys the trailer in just a little bit when we talk about it. there is a major thing happening with a lot of the senators are going to be behind closed doors

and they're going to get a lot of the information that Rush was talking about. But as Ross Caldhardt and a lot of other people are saying, is it going to really mean anything? Because are they going to be able to say anything? Or is it going to actually make them go, uh-oh, maybe we shouldn't tell anybody about this stuff? So we'll talk about that.

And then, yes, of course we're going to cover the Miami Mall. Of course. Riley's shaking his head as I speak. We have some stuff that people feel it's credible. There's other stuff that people say it's ridiculous, and we'll have the conversation. We're talking about the Miami Mall alien thing. And we're also really excited because, as you guys have been watching the last couple of weeks,

our buddy Pavel has been interviewing a bunch of people inside of the community. And we have them on the show today. He's our special guest. So myself, Mark Riley and Pavel will be going over all this and more. We have other things we're going to talk about. And Vevella's kind of reached out about how consciousness is really a big part of this thing. We're going to get into that. We're going to talk about that and more on today's show.

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Regular people asking questions. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found. That's what we're doing on this show. So it's going to be me, Mark Riley, and Pavel. Here we go. What is going on, everybody? Big thing, UAP Tuesday, myself and Mark Yodius Riley. Mark, I'm excited about our special guest today.

I'm very excited to have Pat Bevel here. So I'm excited to talk about three words I never thought I'd string in a sentence. Alien, Miami, and Mall. I mean, it's something Spielberg would have directed back in the day. But, yeah, we're going to, we'll talk about that for sure. And the reason I wanted to have Pavelin, too, is because, like, we met a lot of lot of great people kind of through this community, right? Yeah.

And obviously, I've known Attack Peter for quite a while, and Peter was kind of one of the first guys who'd reach out. He's like, dude, I'm so glad you're covering this stuff now. I'm so glad that we can talk about it because I have so many questions and other people have so many questions. But Vavelle was a guy who was a fan of ours from the pop culture stuff and just things that we've been doing for a while. And he reached out and he started, he and I just started calling back and forth on Twitter.

And I mean, this dude knows what's going on. He's locked into it. He and I are going to start kind of working on a series together that I'll talk to you guys about at the end of the show. But I'm excited to have them. So without any further ado to do, who do you do, let's bring in the one and only, Pavel. What's up, Pavel? How are you? Hey, guys.

Thank you for having me. Hello, Mark. Hello, Christian. Hello to all the community. I'm very glad to be here. Yeah, too. We're glad to have you here because you have been kind of locked in. into this thing for a while.

Let me, before we get started, how did you start getting interested in all this and when did you start, you know, really start asking questions and wanted to know more? Well, since I was a little kid, I started watching a lot of shows here in Mexico. We have a, we had a show called Otrororojo, which is like a talk show, kind of like the tonight show from the 90s.

And they had Jaime Mao Zahn in one episode, And it freaked me out because he had Jonathan Reed and his case, which is very famous and it was debunked. Right. And Jaime Mosad, obviously, for people who don't know it, there also was recently at the Mexico hearings where we've had, you know, the bodies that have been presented. Jaime was the one who presented. I'm sorry, Bevel. Go ahead. Yeah, he was, he's actually the first interview I ever did on the topic. Nice.

And I've been a journalist for 14 years, but I've always followed this topic since I was younger. and in 2017 as pretty much anybody who's been on this for the last seven years, that New York Times article blew me away. And it suddenly made it okay to talk about this on a more public setting, you know? Yeah. And since then it's been a riot. Yeah, and then some, right? Because we've got so, and that's one of the things that probably will be like,

hey, look into this, make sure if you check this out, this interview just came up. Peter's very good at that. You know, you and I bounce this stuff back and forth with each other. Bell has been sending me and say, hey, look at this. Yeah. And so there's a lot that is constantly coming out. And are you shocked, Pavel, with the amount of stuff that continuously comes out, like, weekly? It's almost daily, though, because people in America, they think, many think that it's only happening there.

You know, but, dude, it's happening in Peru. It's happening in the UK, in Mexico, South America. South America, something happened in Argentina a few months back. Yeah. And one of the most, the biggest hotspots. And it's all mysterious, like the government is covering it up. And it's happening all over daily. Yeah. So we constantly get this information.

It's constantly new stuff that's coming out. A lot of questions to be asked and a lot of topics to be talked about today. So Riley, let's get into the first thing I actually really want to talk about is the stuff going on with the skiff and the information that's going to be coming out. I'm going to start with this article. And, you know, before even, you know, we'll have Pavell start here, too, because this is, Bill, tell us what's the significance of the, I guess it's in the next couple of days. I was at the 12th, I think, when the, what's exactly happening that we should be aware of?

First, it was supposed to happen in the ninth, which is going to be a classified briefing from the intelligence community. And the intelligence community inspector general Thomas Monheim, he's the one that's going to talk to the congresspeople about what Grush told him. And when the allegations first came out, he was the one quoted saying, his grush's allegations are credible and urgent. And even if many of those people are not going to be read in, so they can't know the information because they're not part of the classified setting, Monheim is going to tell them, like, in a nutshell, why they're so credible and so urgent.

And that's what I think is going to be the most important aspect of this. We still don't know if it's going to be on the ninth or the 12th. Colthard is adamant that it's going to be on the 12th, but we'll have to see. Speaking of which, we have this interview that Ross Colthard did from News Nation. So let me play that and then we'll discuss it afterwards. Aye, in a session. What do you expect will be discussed at this forthcoming meeting? And how will this closed-door meeting be different than the public UAP hearings before?

Well, there's a big question, my question. over how much the committee members are going to be allowed to hear, because pretty much everything David Grush has to talk about is protected by TSSCI clearances, top secret compartmentalised clearances. And the big question mark that we don't know the answer to is how much are the committee members allowed to be told of what David Grush knows? My understanding is that they have not been read in.

They haven't been security briefed to be read into those co-pruders. compartmented programs. So they're only going to be able to be told in the very broadest terms by the Inspector General of the intelligence community what he knows. But that nonetheless is still very significant because there is an opportunity here for the committee to finally find out what it was that convinced the Inspector General at the intelligence community, Thomas Monheim, that David Grush's allegations were credible and urgent. And that's why he referred them onto Congress, onto the oversight intelligence committees. Yeah, I want to follow up on that because the Intel communities inspector general who is conducting that briefing,

he has previously called David Grush's allegations about UFOs credible and urgent. That is a much different tone than the official DOD position that there's been no evidence of extraterrestrial materials discovered so far. Do you expect the Inspector General will present any of Grush's evidence and even agree with Grush's claims at this briefing? No, I don't, to be perfectly honest. I don't think that the committee members are allowed to know the full extent of what the Inspector General of the intelligence community knows. There are people, witnesses, direct witnesses from the legacy UAP crash retrieval, reverse engineering program, people who allege that they are directly involved working with non-human technology. Those witnesses gave evidence under oath to the Inspector General at the intelligence community.

And frankly, I would be very surprised, Natasha, if that evidence is allowed to be presented to the non-cleared members of the committee. But at the very least, they can get an assurance from the Inspector General that he has done an investigation. And that's very significant because there's been a lot of evasion, as you rightly point out, by the Pentagon. they keep on relying on Arrow the Pentagon's UFO office to assert that there is no credible evidence. But when they say that, they're not speaking for the entire Pentagon. And frankly, I know because I'm speaking to people inside the Pentagon and inside the intelligence community, they know full well that there are whistleblowers who've come forward, who've given direct evidence not only to the Inspector General,

but also to the Senate Select Committee for Intelligence. and the HIPSE, the House Permanent Select Committee for Intelligence. And the big question, Mark, really, and I think the answer is no, is whether the committee members of the House Oversight Committee will this week be allowed to see that evidence in detail. I don't think they will be, but they will probably be allowed to know that the Inspector General did at least do his own investigation, and that's very important.

All right. So I have a lot to say here about this, Because, Riley, I don't know, man. Like, as I just feel like they're like, okay, you know, let's put everybody in a room. If they were worried about this room, the same people that, you know, block the or watered down the Schumer and round stuff that they'd go, we cannot let this meeting happen. But instead, it's, yeah, let it happen. They're going to find anything. They can't get any access to it. So they're just going to find out same kind of stuff.

and then whatever it might be, nobody's going to really report on it. It's not going to go anywhere. They're going to hear some stuff, and it's going to go away. This particular thing, nothing's going to happen with it. But am I just being skeptical, or do you think there's actually something that could potentially happen here? Well, yeah, no, I'm kind of with you on that. I mean, the report is basically saying, you know, Spectre General is going to get some information. Everybody else is not really going to get the information.

They're not going to get the news. you're not going to get like the veil, so to speak, is not going to be pulled back. But I still find this to be incredibly promising. I think that there is movement happening. This is movement. You know, take it with a grain of salt. But I think it's important that it's happening in that, depending on what's learned. Yeah, but will we find out what's learned or will we learn anything?

I don't think we're going to find out anything. Right. But this is what I'm talking about. The promising part of it for me is that it is movement. And this is glacier kind of movement happening in the UFO, UAP kind of world. We want things to happen now. We want to know what's happening now. And because there is so much stigma behind everything,

these little tiny things that happen are a win. That's what I got to believe. All right. Pavel, where are you standing on this man? Because like I said, Riley seems a little bit more optimistic than I do. to me, I just think it seems like, okay, they're getting in a room. They're going to learn some stuff, but they're not going to be blown away by anything in general.

They're going to keep it's going to, the powers, like, I still always use that quote from George Knapp, that these people are better what they do than we are what we do. What say you, where do you stand on all this? I do think we're kind of lucky that we have Matt Laslo, who's been on the show. Yeah. Two shows ago, I think. He's going to be, along with John Khalil from News Nation. the only two guys that are going to be right outside right after it ends.

And these two guys are very specific. They want to be right there watching the reactions of the people that are coming out of the room and try to get that gotcha question, you know? And that's going to be key. But he told me, I've been talking to him about this for the last two days. He said it's kind of like 50-50 at this point. 50-50 as far as far as what? As far as either they're going to reveal something to them

and based on their facial expression, he's going to know. And it's going to be that, yeah, 50-50 on whether it's important or not. What do you think it's going to be? Your gut instinct? I think it depends on what Thomas Monheim says to them. if he relays the message of why grush's allegations are credible and urgent and they get it between the lines, you know, because he can't reveal anything too specific. But the urgency that comes out of that from Monheim, it will make the congresspeople act on it.

Yeah, I like what you said there, Pavel. I like the idea that we can maybe judge the reaction. of these people when they come out. And now I'm going to be watching with like a hawk because I want that same kind of, hmm. We're following breadcrumbs right now, Christian, it feels like. And if we can just kind of judge the cadence of her voice, you know, the look on there. I mean, I know I know we're reaching. I know it's a little bit of a reach.

But it's something. And I am. I'm gobbling this stuff up because this is the important stuff for me, the most important. this this senate transparency getting our leaders are elected officials in the know so that we can start to peel back that veil so we could start to to get some kind of information uh like what do you a highway of information i guess you can say um i want that so much so pavel i'm with you i'm with you man i want to see the reactions and i and the the names you mentioned um if they're outside the door there to get that

gotcha question. I mean, maybe that's something we can hang our hat on for a little bit. I mean, I guess. I guess. You're a lot more pessimistic on this. For this one. Yeah. For this one. I get it. For sure. I just think that I don't know. I mean, I think even Ross Colhart seems like he's a little bit like

I don't know what they're going to learn there. It's like it's good that they're getting behind the door, but like, I don't know what they're going to learn. Like, what's... I guess it's where I'm at right now is like what's the next, like, big needle drop? You know, like, what's the... What's the next thing? Because the biggest needle drops so far was the hearings.

You know, like the hearings were huge. It was the one thing I was talking to my friend today who was an editor. He was going to be helping us out with the new series I'll tell you guys about. And he was like, I was telling him about some of this stuff. And he was just fascinated by the stuff that he didn't know because he was interested in all of it. Aaron Wilhelm. Yeah. And he was interested in all this stuff.

And he's like, how come I don't know about this? And I was like, he's not sure. He's like, I know about the hearings. He's like, I knew about the hearings. Everybody knew about the hearings. So it's like, what's the next needle drop? And it's like, is it one of these things where, because even so, like, you look at, and this is something I'll throw to Pavel here too, because Pavel had, it was on,

the last interview that we showed, and Pavel had asked about the, the Marco Rubio of it all. And Marco Rubio was such like a big proponent of, like, disclosure in this, and he's been silent. And one of the suggestions, Pavel, is that on your show is that he maybe learned something that he was like, holy shit. maybe people shouldn't know this and he's been quiet, is that one of the potential fears of if they do, if these people do know,

if Bershette does start to learn more, and these people that they'll back off? Yeah, so there are basically two needle drops that I think are coming within the next two months. One of them is the op-ed that David Grush is putting out. It's going to be on the first week or second week of February. I still don't know where he's going to write it, where he's going to publish it, but it's coming.

And he's just going to get it passed through adopter, which is like the intelligence community's filter. Is that going to reveal stuff that previously he couldn't reveal? Well, he did say on Tucker that he does have first kind of knowledge. So he's going to say, he's going to reveal something. Yeah, I am 90% sure on that. Okay. And the other needle drop is going to be the whole,

Soul Foundation video, which hasn't come out. Right. And based on what I've heard that happened in there, they're already treating this as, okay, guys, this is real and this is how we are going to go about it to tell the people. And whatever comes out of that, I think a lot of people are going to be shocked, honestly, because there are some journalists that came into that Soul Foundation conference, optimistic. and they came out kind of pessimistic. You mean pessimistic as if it wasn't like a thing anymore?

No, as if it got scared. Okay, so they were more, they were less skeptical than they were way more believers. Yeah, but scared. But scared because, oh, I see what you're saying. Like more so like the information, I'm kind of like, oh, I'm getting closer to the truth. And I don't know if I really loved the truth. Yeah, they get weirded out by it. And I can tell two people that I've seen talking about right after the Soul Foundation,

I was like, okay, this guy learned something that really moved his whole reality, you know. Do you have a theory on what some of that stuff might be? I do have a running theory, but it's kind of weird. What's the running theory? And where does the theory come from? It comes from a couple of people that I've been talking about, talking to, often. record they one of them is he used to work on defense uh journalism he used to interview a lot of people from the defense industry from the military industrial complex and he started uh actively

pursuing uh gravity propulsion basically which is like a like a unicorn and yeah and that kind of journalism and he suddenly switched his tune to the study of consciousness and the first time i heard about this was from bob la sara who has like a really detailed account of everything he saw and he he's convinced that many of this craft are used through consciousness and that's where it gets really weird pilots it piloted through consciousness yeah yeah everything uh inside the craft so you talk talking to maybe like remote viewing kind of stuff like that's that's just part of it I can try I can control like I can I'm a avid hobbyist and in drone flying so I have my own drone but you're talking about I could fly a drone with my mind kind of thing that's where it gets really kind of scary for

people because the reason I got into all of this the reason I opened my channel is because of the study of consciousness and for some reason it kept taking me to people who are within the UFO community. Interesting. At first, I didn't think it was related, but then it kept taking me to all those people, and I was like, okay, there's something here. It's related. And the rabbit holes have been in, man.

It's, we can go into more detail if you want, but I think we should do a whole show about. A full episode. I want to do that. Yeah, I think that's probably, maybe it's a different episode. Dude, we have talked about that you have brought this up numerous times, Christian, and just your kind of, you know, having conversation and just saying, hey, what if and this, this, and that, but, you know, dreams. Yeah.

When you're, you know, when you're asleep and you're in a dream state, you know, and I even have friends that are a little, you know, they're out there, you know, and they talk about a, like a silver string that you're connected to that is basically your consciousness drifting out of your body. And if that is severed, maybe die, right? That's very interesting to me. That's, that's stuff that I go, that's neat. That's a neat trick.

That's fun to think about. But when you talk about dreams and when you talk about, and now, Pavel, you're bringing up consciousness. You know, that is something for some reason I can buy more than aliens in a mall and a mall. You know, and maybe that's just me. And maybe that's just wanting to be, you know, believe in a bigger thing. Right. You know, but the human mind is an amazing thing that we haven't even begun to, you know, really truly understand. And I think Albert Brooks was even on to something in defending your life.

When, you know, you go to the other side and he's like, well, I use 37% of my brain. How much do you use? Two, you use two percent, which is real, which is actually correct. We don't use the full extent of our mind. We use a percentage, one, two, three percent. I don't know what it is. But that intrigues me so much, Pavel, and makes me actually kind of perk up a lot more than aliens in a mall. He's really against the aliens and mall.

We'll get to that. But yeah, that's going to be in my running thing. Yeah, listen, that's a very interesting thing. And honestly, we were going to talk about this, this is what happens with this topic is that originally this entire episode was going to be about consciousness and the theories of it and all that. him and then these stories come out, you know, and just things that need to be covered and that need to, because I know, and this is, this is one of the goals of this show is that not news nation, not these other ones that are covering it, but the major news networks aren't covering the stuff. We know that.

And so it is, for now, it's our job to be able, for this show, because that's what we've decided to do for the format of this show. And you guys have responded to it is that the subjects and the stories that are coming out and this to let you guys know about it because maybe you didn't hear about it before. Maybe you did or maybe you wanted to hear a different perspective on it. So that's kind of what we're doing here. But before we move on from this subject is that where does it go? Right?

Let me start with you. Where does this go now where, you know, the next phase of they get into a room, they find out information, they don't find out information. Do we get another hearing? Where do we go? Well, I think I go off of this report and then a little bit of what, Pavel, you mentioned with some needle drops upcoming. You know, I think that they could maybe learn some things.

They can get some information and they can maybe be blown away and not say anything. Or they could say, whatever. Whatever it may be, I think there's going to be nothing, right? And then the needle drops. Grush comes out and says something. It gets out in the consciousness, so to speak. You know, we get more reports. We get more whistleblowers out there.

They're going to force the hand of more and more people that learn this stuff. I want to believe that. I have to believe that, that the more information that starts to spread within the community there, whether it's Congress, trusted, elected officials, I like to say, more information comes out. It's going to hopefully get people that are in the know, that are starting to get in the know, force their hand. Like, oh, Jesus, this is out now. This Corps operates what I just heard. Maybe that's what it might take. So then what about, you know, going over what Riley said. Riley is talking about, as we mentioned, as you mentioned before, with the needle drop and particular information coming out. That was the big thing after the Chuck Schumer thing essentially was watered down, then everybody inside of this community, you know, from Jeremy Carbell, Lou Alessando, Gary Nolan, everybody's talking about, well, things are coming then. Things are coming. You know, there's other, that's when that daily mail thing drops and other things. And so what starts, how much credible, how credible is it?

Besides the stuff that you mentioned with the grush stuff and the needle dropping that particular way, Lou Alessandro's been talking. What's your thought on Lou, first of all? And second of all, what's he going to do, if anything? Because he's been hinting like a lot of stuff's coming out and he's going to be doing more stuff. So what's your thought process on where he's going? Well, first of all, Lou has a book coming out too. And he's also getting it approved.

And Daniel Sheehan, who is his attorney, he's been talking about it. And it's going to come out on the first quarter of the year. That's going to be revealing. But I do think that there's going to be an open hearing after this one. Because all the signs point at Carl Nell, who spoke at the Soul Foundation, He said a lot of stuff in there, but it all points that he may be sitting in front of the committee and speaking publicly. Lou Elzando will. No.

Carole. Oh, Carnell. Who is far more important than any of the ones that have already come out. I see. Okay. And you think that'll be, how likely do you think that's going to happen? I would put some money on it. Wow.

Okay. All right. So look. We need that. We absolutely need that. I mean, that's, and that's what, and I put a link in the description for Prevelle's channel when he's done the interviews, but I'm going to do it again here, and you should watch his full interviews.

We just, we can't run the full interviews during the show for two reasons. One, it's on his channel, and you should watch it on his channel. And two, there are long interviews. He does these things, the full detail interviews for like an hour and a half, and there's a lot of juicy information. So make sure you check out his channel. So I want to move on, though, as I mentioned like Jeremy Corbell, and they have this, this dot coming out with TMZ.

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We're trying to build out this channel. We want to get the information out more. And I guess I'll just tell you right now what we're working on. I talked to Pavel about this today, and the second he was like, yeah, I'm down. We went to my buddy, Aaron, who had helped me edit a bunch of stuff. And so what I'm going to start doing on this channel, and I'll probably drop it on either Friday,

or the weekends. I want to do a series, and it's just going to be a series about the who's who of this community. Like, who are these people? Like, who is David Grush? Who is Gary Nolan? Who is Jeremy Corbell?

Who is Ellen Heineck? Who are all these people? And it's like a straight up, like, a refresher for people to know. Like, if you don't know all these people, that's what we want to do. So, Pavel, you're, You and I talked about this today, and I'm excited to have you on board with this series.

Yeah, it's so many people. Yeah. Because this has been happening since 1947, and we do have to cover a lot of ground, a lot of historic people who are no longer with us, such as, I don't know, Dr. Stanton Friedman, who is one of the biggest names in the UFO community, Bob Lassar, John Lear. those are the old school ones, but there's like this new group of people who just came out

after 2017. And they're doing a lot of interesting stuff that people need to know about it. Yeah, and so we're excited to bring that. The goal is to, January would be amazing. Most likely February is when

the first one will drop. We're going to do quite a few. And if you guys respond to them, we'll keep doing them to get everybody on board with. I told Riley, about it and I was like yeah that's stuff I want to learn yeah I could actually use your video myself because there are so many names out there right um it is it is sometimes hard for me just with things going on to to keep it all straight so look out for that we'll be doing that um sooner than later and speaking the things that are dropping and I didn't know it was coming that's this

documentary from uh what did I didn't say Netflix though no no it's TMZ yeah so this is let me let me show the the trailer itself and then we'll um then we'll talk about the other side. You've said that U.S. has intact spacecraft. You said that the government has alien bodies or alien species. Have you seen the spacecraft? What I personally witnessed myself is very disturbing. It has been since the inception of the UFO problem.

Nothing to see here. All of that. All of that has changed. A multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program. A genuine disclosure of the UAP UFO subject would be the most earth-shattering thing imaginable. It would be the biggest story in history, the biggest story period. Here was a phenomenon that the government couldn't protect us from. The greatest superpower the Earth has ever known basically admitted there was no way they could defend themselves.

I don't trust the US government and I'm a United States congressman. They told me that I'd kicked a hornet's nest and I needed to get some bodies around me. This information is the most deeply held secrets in the entire government, and that includes the president of the United States. Do not talk about these things or things will not go well for you. This is like the mafia. Have anyone been murdered? I have to be careful asking that question. The attacks on you, is there any moment where you've regretted speaking up?

You know, I don't, yeah, regretted. It's, you know, I don't want to live in the Matrix when there's stuff like this that's being hidden from the world populace. The foot of my bed, there were two gray non-human beings. The aerospace defense companies, these are people who understand how to play high-level chess. Somebody's going to walk out of one of these labs with this information and puts it out on the internet before they commit suicide by shooting themselves in the back of the head five times. The footage was captured by our military. It's in Iraq. It was treated with just spectacular secrecy. Just be careful. Don't step on the wrong toes. So I've got a still image for something that I have learned to be called the chandelier UAP.

Does that ring a bell to you? It does. Do you think Chuck Schumer would put forward an amendment about UAPs and disclosure? Putting the reputation of the entire Senate at risk with the upcoming election? I mean, I don't know how much more one needs. This subject is a problem. It's a problem they can't control. I know for a matter of fact, that the UFO topic

is considered more important at a higher level of security than weapons of mass destruction. This is potentially world-conquering information, technology that can change the course of mankind. A society that has lived a foundational lie for an entire human lifetime. I don't know what gets bigger than that. To keep things secret, people are silenced.

I don't know how bad. better to say that tomorrow. Oh, today. Today, from when we air this, that's coming out today. So I'm in. That's a good trailer. It's a great trailer. So this is where I stand on that trailer.

It's a fantastic trailer. Yeah. There's a lot more than I like than I dislike, but there are a few things that I dislike. Okay. And I'll start with that. And this is just, it's an editing trick. Oh, yeah. But the first thing that they do when they start and they ask him about when,

when Grush, when he asked him about the, you know, they say, okay. The non-human craft. Yeah, and he goes, I feel uncomfortable about that. That's not what he was talking about. Yeah, they pulled it out of sequence. What he was talking about, in that moment was when, about things that made him uncomfortable, was they had asked him if there were threats against him. That's what he said in that particular moment.

So they edited that to sell it a little bit. Yeah. And that's fine. I get it. That's what they're doing. A lot of the people, the average viewer isn't going to pick up on that. But it just makes you go, okay, it's TMZ produced. so they're really trying to build it out.

You can tell the music as they're building up to it. And there's a few other times that they had done that. And then they also said the U.S. has a UFO problem. No, the world does. That's part one. Well, they know their target audience. Yeah. And they're also talking about the really, the whole documentary, if you look at it,

it is about the U.S. government and the cover up inside the U.S. So that's why they did that the way that they did. But that's really the majority of it. It's just the edited and what they're trying, the way they're manipulating it, right? Now, when you look at the Netflix doc that we just watched recently and encounters one, right? Yeah. That show was made for the absolute casual fan that was coming across and said, what's this? And they learn about these things for the first time.

For someone like Pavel, I guarantee you if you watch it, and I'll ask him in a second, and you can respond after, you know, after I throw this to you. But encounters, I bet you he knew about all of those encounters. I bet she knew about everything left and right about everything about that, because the experts knew about it. That wasn't the intent of that. This is not that. This is Jeremy Corbell,

because if Jeremy Corbell starts covering stuff that people have seen a million times over, it's like, well, yeah, we knew that already. Someone else covered that, Jeremy. What are you doing? But he's got that one scene where he's talking to the military guy, and he's like, have you heard about this?

The chandelier. Yeah, the chandelier. And then there's the pause. He's like, yeah, I know about that one. So in the same way that it's not surprised that Lou Alizando is out there. they're promoting his book and said, well, wait a minute. I'll tell you right around the time my book comes out,

it's the same time where Jeremy Corbelle has been holding back on stuff and not revealing stuff on his podcast or things, because he's got this movie coming out. So Bevel, let me ask you about this, man. So what do you think? Is this going to be more of a fluff thing? Or is this going to be something that actually, again, you know, is a needle dropper?

And what did you think of the overall trailer? I was surprised that the mummies made it. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I say, yeah, me too. That's, I mean, you know, Chaim Monsan has this, is pushing this really hard. There's a reason for that. But the trailer overall, I think it's going to, it seems like it's going to cover everything that's happening.

So even the mushroom cloud from the, from the explosions. But I do think that Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp, They always keep some carts, some aces under their sleeves, if you may say. And I think they're going to release some stuff that people have never seen before. Because we got to remember, George Knaff has a whole library of videos and stuff in his house in Las Vegas. And there's a lot of stuff that he doesn't want to share still. But you know, TMC. I mean, those guys are everywhere.

They pay for everything they get and they pay good money. So I think I'm excited about it, but it's TMC too. You know, they're known for their gossipy stuff. But yeah, I think it's going to be interesting to say at least. He brings up a fantastic point, Riley. TMZ pays a lot of money for this stuff too, right? Yeah. And where the mainstream media is dropping the ball so badly with not only,

you look at it as a business side of things, right? You look at News Nation, as we mentioned, you know, if you go to News Nation, you look at the news that's out there right now, the clips that they put out about, again, whether it's any of the wars going on or whether it's about anybody in politics, they do okay. But because they're really the only big news outlet covering this, those videos are in the hundreds of thousands all the time.

Right. So TMZ is probably going, well, wait a minute. Let's get in on this action. Yeah, Jeremy Corbella, I'll tell you what, we'll pay you to do the doc for us, give us all the information, we'll give you the resources, and because what Pavel said,

and everybody did the same thing, well, it's TMZ doing it. But what if TMZ has the most legit doc, they put some credibility on their name? If they do, if they actually break it. So you can look at it that way. You can. Why not?

Why not? I mean, TMZ, as much as you want to maybe hate on them or, you know, they could be paparazzi and they can do. They are a paparazzi. Yes. No, but I'm saying like they could get in on certain things like, you know, I saw a disgusting report from them about Matthew Perry right when he, like that they were the ones that broke it before his family even. I mean, that's what they do. if they can break something before the mainstream media knows anything, like a UAP thing, I wouldn't put it past them.

So begrudgingly, I will say, yeah, follow this. Let's see what they have to offer. Is that a possibility also prevails that they say, okay, look, yeah, look, we're going to put this out there. People are watching it. They're excited about it. We're going to make money off us. If people don't give a shit, if they don't, as long as people watch it, this is, again, TMZ's perspective. We don't care.

As long as people are watching it, we don't care. they take it, if the mainstream takes it serious or if we get the stigma out, that's not why they're making it. They're making it to get eyeballs on it, whereas I think Jeremy Corbell, obviously and George Knapp, are doing it to get the word out and to get more legitimacy out there. But where do you, when this thing lands, and again, it lands today from when we air this, is this going to do anything or is this just going to be like, no, no, no, there's in the same way that the documentary that I found on National Geographic that really got me into it and other people have found

certain things. This is going to be another piece that people go, oh, that's interesting. I wonder what's really happening. TMC gets a lot of flag, though. Yeah, they do. They do get a lot of sensationalist stuff out there. But people often forget, they get a lot of world exclusives.

Yeah. It's true. For example, let me give you an example. When Kobe Bryant died, may rest and peace, they got the first story out. And I guarantee you, when they were on the table with Jeremy, they wouldn't pay that kind of money if they are not getting some kind of exclusive that is it's going to be like wild right they're not going to just do like a Netflix doc like it said because

that that that encounters doc did a did you see it and b did you know all the all the cases yeah I did know all the cases I didn't know some stuff about the Japan right me too me too which was really really wild too but yeah I know I knew pretty much all of those. But yeah, TMC, they're not gonna pay that much money if they're not gonna get some meat, you know? Like, yeah. They have to get something out, some exclusive out.

Well, it comes out today, guys. So make sure you check that out. And we'll talk about, I'm sure we're gonna talk about it next week. Yeah, I mean, it'll be the conversation that we're gonna have next week. We'll really dive deep because especially if something comes out. I'm sure next week's gonna be pretty packed because you're going to have, if there was potential information that came out of this meeting that everybody's happening,

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you guys can correct me where I'm wrong here, but there was like a, it was, was it, was it, was it just, I don't know what it was it was just, I don't know what it was, but it was. A few days ago, wasn't it? Oh, was it? Something happened in the, in Miami and there was,

apparently what they say is that these kids kind of caused a riot and then they sent every cop in Florida to Miami and the people were going it's because there was a creature there was a creature running around and we saw it and tons of people

saw the creature so aliens yeah saw the aliens so before we even talk about it here I want to play this video this is from somebody that said they

they were there but here's this video I'm not going to play I'll play this is a shorter shorter video So Pavel sent me a shorter video. Here's one of the guys who apparently saw the thing in Miami. But what happened, we all saw what happened, and, you know, it's pretty serious.

You know, it's been a few days, but, you know, our whole family's processing it. But I think we've kind of, like, accepted that we were a part of this weird experience and moment. So basically what happened was I was there with my brother Brian, my sister and my nephew, we were looking for shoes for my nephew. And then we see a whole crowd of people outside the store, just running out in a direction. So, you know, as soon as you saw it, we were like, oh, oh, shit, you know, what's going on? So we immediately ran out with our nephew. And we picked him up and we ran out and we followed the crowd. And then about like a few seconds later as soon as we started running. My nephew, he's autistic, so he was pointing behind us,

and he was saying, blankie, which he'll usually say whenever he feels unsafe or scared. And he was pointing behind us. So me and my brother, we look behind us, and then we see these three nine, ten foot tall creatures. I'm not going to say aliens. Everyone keeps saying it's aliens. I'm not saying aliens because I don't know what it was. None of us really knew everyone. All of us stopped in our track. We, you know, a whole bunch of people were pointing at it. I mean, there were other people running. You know, there was a crowd. As soon as it made itself more apparent, it looked like it was glitching, not like a computer pixelation, but like a wavy glitch. and whatever maybe was covering them had, you know, unveiled or whatever.

Yeah, it looked like a glitch, man. Like a weird glitch in the Matrix or whatever. And then you could see it in its full form, all three of them. And then, you know, they were all black. You saw eyes. And you could faintly see, like, lips. But, yeah, I was about, like, 20 feet away. Because obviously everybody gave it distance, right?

And, you know, they're tall. So we all just, like, looked at them. They were just standing there. And the thing that was a little bit weird, but it was clearly, like, observing us. It was sentient, right? Like, or whatever. I mean, I don't know.

But it was aware of us. It looked at us, the whole crowd. And then as soon as it started walking with its big legs, like kind of like, it started like almost. glitching again. We all ran. My brother, like, immediately said, yo, let's go. He grabbed me by the shoulder.

We bolted out of there. And for anyone that's like saying, you know, where's the footage? Where's the footage? Yeah, I know. I don't have any footage. And I'll explain why. Because, like, when I saw it, I was in complete fear. It was something that I completely froze, man.

I don't care if I sound like a bitch about it. Like, I froze. And I don't care who you are. I feel like when you're seeing something paranormal, it's different than when you're seeing a fight. Yeah, you'll probably want to record that and put it on World Star or whatever. When you see something paranormal, that's different because your reality, you can't comprehend what you're seeing. A fight, you kind of get it to people are fighting. You can comprehend that.

Something like this, none of us could comprehend. Your first instinct is like it. it ain't to like take out your phone and start recording your first instinct is like i've never seen this before what is this is it going to hurt me okay so here's here's where i stand with this um i i i don't ever want to call anybody a liar i i don't i don't know but i was going to say straight off what he said at the end now maybe he very well maybe he was scared and he didn't shoot whatever he was seeing, okay, with his phone. There were that many people.

Yeah. Not everybody's going to feel that way. Right. Not everybody. You can't speak for everybody that, you know, there are people that have been in pretty terrifying situations, not just a fight on World Star, terrifying situations that people have caught footage of

because they knew they had to. Someone would have gotten something. Now, this isn't one of those things. Now, I'm usually the people, so, well, how come there's not more footage of the UFOs in the sky? And it's like, well, these things are moving at a certain kind of speed. And the way that they do it, it's hard. Before you know what you're seeing, it's gone.

There's a fucking alien running around 20 feet in front of you. You pick up that camera and you take a picture of it or you do something else. Nobody had one. So it's like the one shot they said they saw of the thing, it was like three people standing next to each other walking. So and then the other things, well, why is there every cop? Here's what I think potentially happened in this one. that if there was indeed this riot and there was looting and all these different things that happened,

they're probably because of the way that the world is at the moment and with shootings happening all of the time and people also, you know, towns being scrutinized because their police force didn't react in time. There you go. They said, send them all. And they said, who? And Gary Obed, everyone, said everyone.

send everyone because it's like right now we're not messing with this we want to show how come you didn't send uh right you didn't respond in time didn't respond in time we sent florida yeah you know it's like so it just this one doesn't doesn't add up to me and we're going to get the two major skeptics talking about it first and then i'm sure because as i said in the beginning of this pevel is read up on this tremendously and probably has counterpoints to a lot of this stuff and maybe and maybe he doesn't maybe he's on the same page i don't i haven't talked to him fully about it, but I know he's a lot to say. But Riley, you came in about this one hot. Yeah. Well, I echo exactly everything you said there because I saw that video. I saw another

guy's video. I saw a number of videos of people claiming there were 12 feet tall aliens. And then I watched a police response, an actual police officer saying the shadows, the 12 foot tall aliens were actually shadows and here they are. He showed a picture of them in motion and I looked and yeah those are shadows, you know, because there were a lot of police cop cars there and the lights are going and people are running alongside those things and the shadows are being, you know, projected on the wall. I had a problem a little bit with that

video because it appeared the gentleman on there was kind of looking off and almost reading. I felt to me he was reading something, which conspiracy hat on, the tin fill foil hat on, that's interesting, right? But I think it's this kind of stuff that we do live in a world. And based on the

investigating this thing, you know, there was what the cop called juveniles shooting fireworks at people. And, you know, the loud pops that you get from that can be misconstrued as gunshots. And this is in a very populated mall. This could have been seen as a horrible, horrible shooting where we have one every day, it seems like, in America.

And so the huge police presence absolutely makes sense to me, that they would be there for a mall that has reports of gunfire. Because, well, sorry to cut you up, But the other thing is you make that point, it's like if it was anything but that, you've had reports of UAP showing up and fighter jets are there within seconds. Right. Why is it just the cops? Why is it just Florida cops?

Right. Why isn't it if there's reports or anything? Why aren't through like the black SUVs and just like everybody, you know, it would be everybody. Wouldn't just be the, I mean, I don't know. Yeah. And listen, it's also something that it just, well, But why I came in hot is because I went down that rabbit hole. And I saw numerous videos of, you know, people saying, well, this is definitely a conspiracy.

And this is why is this? Why is this? And no facts to it. Just kind of thrown out whatever's going to stick to the wall. And it's this kind of stuff that takes away, in my opinion, from what we're trying to do here. And that's find transparency through our government. What do they have? what's in the skiff, what is Grush talking about.

This kind of stuff will get out to the layman, and they'll go, eh, this is, come on. They, you know, maybe they're not going to immediately believe it without facts behind it. And I think it perpetuates what we're talking about. You might as well have called it. I saw a dragon fighting a wizard. You know what I mean? And that's what is taking away from me, the real work that we're doing,

and that's trying to get the government to reveal what the hell is up there, what's going on, what do they know. And people are talking about aliens in a mall, you know, and that's tough and hard for me to believe until I get more facts. And maybe Pavel, you have something that can change my mind. That's where I want to go with it, because I know Pavel has really dove deep into this. So are we missing something? Are you like, hey, guys, you guys aren't really paying attention to this the way that it really should be. There's other facts? or are you more on our side of things here?

So, spoiler alert, I'm on your side. Okay. But I do work at a newsroom, like a regular one. So when this happened, it happened on January 1st. I started looking at it, and it started following it up and seeing all the different accounts and everything. And I didn't even suggest it as a news article because I have to. job I I am the traffic manager at the newsroom so I have seen all the videos and everything but many accounts from the police point that at just a brawl between

teenagers and possibly a shooting yeah which is the most logical explanation to it however you know I do like to dabble into the imagination, you know? Let's put it that way. They were talking about this guy, specifically, his account. It was interesting to me because he was very clear. He said, I'm not going to say aliens. I don't think they're aliens.

They are creatures and they are shadow beings as in and they were like kind of like facing in and out of the vision, you know. And that's what was kind of interesting to me because every single account that I saw describes the same thing. I'm not saying it's true or anything, but it is kind of strange to me that so many people, maybe it was just for cloud, maybe I don't know, but they're saying the exact same thing. It's shadow beings, not specifically aliens. They couldn't even tell what they looked like. They just said they were really tall and dark. That was about it, you know.

I just think it's a nice science fiction story that we can get past and just focus on what we're doing here. Yeah. Pavel, let me ask, when you say, it kind of corroborates what other people have said, is that people at the actual mall or the event in question or just it's all about 20 20 accounts of people that were at the mall one of them said that there was kind of like a portal that was opened which was really wild that was like what the hell yeah and yeah and yeah that they they all say they were at the mall but you know it's twitter twitter became like a cesspool of of disinformation.

It's somebody who just watched Stranger Things season three is what happened. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's why I didn't even propose it as a news article in my day job. Because that's... It's too much info that can't be corroborated, so let's just leave it alone. Yeah. Yeah.

For now. That's what I was wondering, too, when you were saying that, and if it was corroborating Evans other people, and I'm wondering if there could have been just, you know, a mass, let's F with people kind of thing. It felt that video that we watched, there was a number of times he kind of looked off, and then he said something, almost like he read it and went, yeah, phasing, you know?

And it just, it, it, it, it, it, it, some stinks to you. It just kind of, it got my hairs up, like, that didn't ring true to me. And I, I want, believe me, I want it to be true. And I have heard of this stuff. I don't know, I don't know if I want that to be true. Well, I want the,

I want the transparency, I want the evidence to be forthcoming, real, transparent, whatever have you. Yeah. Do I want shadow beans in my world? No. A big thing. But I have heard that before. I've mentioned many times, Bevel, you've heard it here. Christian, you've heard it here.

My friend Kai, who believes he's been, you know, abducted. He has mentioned those kind of things as well. Look. Which I believe is something. Sure. if other people are reading this online, that guy's looking off, and they decide to, you know, make it a New Year's prank. I don't know. I'm sure a lot of people are going to have a lot to say about this. I don't know where you guys stand on it. Again, if there's other information

that we're not paying attention to that you think is absolutely something that we should, please tell us, tell us in the comments, let us know for sure. But for me, it just, in an event, like that, not in the sky, but on the ground with that many people, that many, and they're going to get every single one of those police officers to shush and not say anything, and all the people around not to say, it's, it, that one, I can't believe that it actually even carry the kind of weight that it, to be completely honest with you. It's a viral moment that, that happens on social media, and Pavelle, you said it. I mean, Twitter has become something, a shadow of its former self.

Yeah, well, it's also, it's the Twitter. I mean, I think he also means, like, just the UFO Twitter. Like, it's not, it's like there's people, because it's becoming more of a talked about subject is that people, I mean, I saw something today. Like, look, this is the most realistic footage I've seen so far. And it's the most stupidest thing I've ever seen. Right. Somebody just made it in their garage five minutes ago and with bad Photoshop. So I don't know.

Those things are out. The stuff that we want to talk about is the stuff that we open the show with. And the documentary that, you know, Jeremy Corbell is going to do as well, too. see what actually that kind of information that's going to come out. So that's really what we cover. We'll talk about stories like this for sure because I think that it's important to, because you never know what is going to happen, what's not going to happen, and we want to discuss it all.

And we're glad that you guys were able to join us. I want to thank our special guest, Pavel, here today. Pavel, tell the people where they can find you, your channel, and what guests you got coming out. Okay, so before, I do that, though, I do have to say about the Miami Mall. Sure. We have a lot of people in Miami that work for my day job that actually live there,

and they could have been there trying to report on it, but they were all on holiday, which was really frustrating to me. I was like, damn, dude, aliens just invaded Miami. And you're on vacation. Yeah, and you weren't in Indonesia. What the hell? Okay. So, yeah, my channel is called Sicoactivo. It's on YouTube and Spotify. I do have coming up some interviews with author Nick Cook, who wrote the best-selling book, The Hunt for Zero Point.

I am also going to talk to Daniel Sheehan. I am hunting Dr. Gary Nolan, who's, he already confirmed to me that we're, we are going to talk, but he's been really busy lately. Same thing with Ross Coldheart and James Fox, the documentary filmmaker. Sure. They are all like on the line to speak to me. And you can find me also on Twitter at Pabeli Barrameda. And we can discuss anything you want there about this, about movies, about sports. I like to dabble and everything.

And all of his stuff will be linked in the description below. so you don't have to worry about that. Mark Yodius Riley, we're going to find you. Yeah, you can find me on the internet, at Riley Around. R-E-I-L-Y-O-R-R-E-I-L-Y-O-R-R-E-L-Y-O-R-R-R-S. We'll see you there. Thank you again for joining us. If you're brand-ind to the channel, please subscribe to the channel.

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