The Kristian Harloff Show - HUGE! DC casts Aaron Pierre as John Stewart in LANTERNS series! | Billy Magnussen Interview

Episode Date: October 9, 2024

This is a fun ep! the DCU Lanterns show has been heating up with casting rumors and news. Kyle Chandler has been cast as Hal Jordan. Well Aaron Pierre from Rebel Ridge was on the top of the list. Word is now that it is official. Good choice? Legendary filmmaker Christopher Nolan (The Dark Knight, Batman Begins, Oppenheimer and more) has decided to STAY with Universal. He seems to be set on having one of the Oppenheimer stars Matt Damon as the lead. What will the movie be? Ridley Scott is banking on Gladiator 2 being a hit as he is already writing Gladiator 3! Billy Magnussen has had soe very memorable roles from Game Night to Aladdin, Pauly Walnuts in Many Saints of Newark. He has a new show out now called The Franchise on HBO. He sits down to talk with Kristian Harloff and you better believe Booster Gold will be brought up! OUR SPONSORS BILT: http://www.joinbilt.com/BIGTHING AG1: http://www.DRINKag1.com/BIGTHING HELLO TUSHY: 10% off your first bidet order at http://www.HelloTUSHY.com with promo code BIG THING

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And it's John Stewart. Aaron Pierce is going to be in the new HBO Max DCU show. It's heating up. Nolan's got a new movie. Billy Magnuson's going to talk to me about his show, the franchise. This is a hell of an episode, guys. So thanks for joining us. Let's get to it.

Here we go. Thanks for joining us on the Christian Harlov show. This is our Wednesday episode, everybody. And man, oh man, what an episode to do. do. I was going to say I'm going to be by my lonesome, but it's not really true because Billy Magnuson, who is just a phenomenal, phenomenal actor, and he's so good in a lot of the stuff that he does, whether it's the Bond movies, whether it's the Roadhouse movie, Aladdin, and he's in a new show called The Franchise. And so if you haven't checked out show,

especially for this audience, you guys would absolutely love it. And it is essentially, then the gonna say it but it's it's it's how the Marvel this decline and how it's shot and how studios get involved and it's basically making a big budget superhero movie and the ridiculousness that comes with it uh it's like veep meets entourage it's it's got all that stuff so i'm gonna be talking to billy it's going to be a great conversation you're gonna like it he's a great guy but i didn't realize he was a queen's guy until um until i started talking to him so that'll happen in a little bit. But before we get to any of it, man, there's some big news that dropped,

and that, of course, is lanterns, which has been heating up in general. You know, all that stuff that was going on with Josh Brolin, and the conversation just was not going away about lantern. So it wasn't like one of these things were like, oh, yeah, yeah, they're just kind of looking around. They think that this is going to happen. Who knows next time we hear about it. It was like story after story, after story, we kept getting more stuff about lanterns.

And then you hear, like, the team that's involved and what they want to do, they want a more gritty kind of true detective type show. And then the name started to fly in. Obviously, you get Kyle Chandler, who was not one of the names that was being floated, but then when I didn't see many people who were like, Kyle Chandler, what terrible cast that is. Everybody's like, oh, that's for the kind of seasoned Hal Jordan. but then the question started to come.

Who's going to be John Stewart? And there were a lot of different names. And I don't know if it was a coincidence, maybe it was, that Rebel Ridge came out when it did because the second that movie hit on Netflix, then everybody started talking about Aaron Pierce. And everybody's like, whoa, did you see this movie? I thought I've had a chance to see it yet, but I hear great things.

And I hear, really what you hear about it is how good he is. That's what everyone's been saying, is how good Aaron Pierce is. and I think that D.C. obviously caught wind of it, and this is the news from the Hollywood reporter. Here it is. What is it? My video description is wrong, by the way?

You got surname wrong? I don't know what that means. What does surname mean? I don't know what surname means, but what did I say? Pierce? I keep saying Pierce, and I don't have, well, there you go. I have to change that. Pierre, thank you.

There you go. So you guys correct to me, that's the beauty of doing live. I'll change it in a second. So, yeah, yeah, I got you, Mike. I got you, relax. I got it. Aaron Pierre, and I was about to read it once I have my glasses off. So here we go.

Here's the story itself. And I'll be, I promise, the last time I get his name wrong, because you're not going to get this guy's name wrong for very long. Lanterns finds it's John Stewart with Aaron Pierre. So Kyle Chandler is already on the call sheet as Green Lantern Hero Hal Jordan, Aaron Pierre, the star of Netflix's Rebel Ridge, has nabbed the plump part of Green Lantern John Stewart in DC Studios and HBO's much Bollywood series Lanterns.

The casting caps, one of the most scrutinized actor searches in some time. Not only is the show the first major TV endeavor from DC Studios, Hedge James Gunn, Peter Saffron, but the role of Stewart carries much significance as the fan-favored comic book characters one of his DC's first black superheroes. The intense casting process came down to Pierre and Stephen James,

who was on the festival circuit with the drama The Piano Lesson and who starred in the 2016 Jesse Owens' biopic race. Both participated in a screen test with the actor squaring off against the already cast Kyle Chandler on Thursday and Friday.

Each actor had their boosters but the final decision was made Tuesday. Pierre definitely brings heat to the show as the actor has over the course of a few months gone to the top of casting list. His leading turn in Jeremy Selner's Rebel Ridge debuted on Netflix on September 6 and was the number one title worldwide on Netflix for three weeks in a row. The actor has already brushed with the comic book realm. He was once cast opposite Mahershal Ali in Marvel Studios Blade, but the version of the long-delayed movie morphed and he will not be involved going forward.

He also appeared in N. Night Shyamalan's old, an adaptation of a graphic novel. Lanterns is said to have a gritty, true detective vibe and follows how Jordan a legend among the space police force known as the Green Lanterns, as he reluctantly mentors John Stewart, a younger Green Lantern. The two intergalactic cops get drawn into a dark, earth-based mystery as they investigate a murder in the American Heartland.

Chandler, TV veteran, thanks to a claim turns in Friday Night Lights and Bloodline is set to stars Jordan. James Haas and established TV Helmer, who most recently directed a string of episodes of the Gary Oldman Spy series Slow Horses, has been tapped to helm the first two episodes of the sci-fi cop series. Lanterns has a straight-to-series order at HBO and comes from high-pedigreed creators, Chris Mundy, Damon Lindelof,

and Eisner Award-winning comic book writer Tom King, our executive producing and writing with Mundy showrunning what is planned as an eight-episode season. Haas also joins the force as an executive producer. Writer Dennis O'Neill and artist Neil Adams introduced Stewart in 1971 Green Lanterns, Number 87, 12 years after how Jordan and the larger Green Lantern Corps mythos arrived on the scene. Pierre was recently seen leading the Nat Geo Series genius MLKX portraying civil rights leader Malcolm Axcart Davis 20203, sci-fi drama Fox,

a foe alongside Paul Meskell and Circe Rohnan. Clement Virgo's brother and Barry Jenkins Award winning limited series, the Underground Railroad. In December, Pierre takes on the titular role of Mufasa in Barry Jenkins, C. G animated Lion King prequel for Disney. This is big, big casting, and it also shows kind of the meteoric rise of Aaron Pierre. This is absolutely a big move not only for him, but I'll tell you, as I'm reading this,

what comes into my mind is this is how you do it. This is shattering the silly things that have gone on in this industry for years, upon years and it started with like the old guard of well these movies the atomic book movies the video game movies they don't necessarily need to be treated as we treat other our prestigious stuff and it's like that uh the academy mentality of yeah you know you throw big explosions and you do that kind of so you don't really have to put too much effort into the the meat of it right and i think once marvel started to do certain things and started to bring more um you know

quality, really, really quality directors and you started to get more stuff on the DC side and the people, the seriousness of it, there's some movies that have bumped and there's some movies that have they put, it's still that old formula that I think people are tired with, but when you hear that they're

actually putting the team that they have and the stuff, people from slow horses and Lindelof and all these people, like, they really are trying to put together a show that it doesn't matter if it's in the comic book realm. They want to put together a quality, quality show.

And this is what happens sometimes when, you know, you look at some of the stuff that's happening on whether it is Marvel, whether it is Star Wars. And it's just like, you guys can put more effort into it. And if you do and you treat it the same way that, because you could easily have gotten a show like Game of Thrones that was, that felt like a complete, you know, CW version of it. and it just wasn't traded right. And it just, you're like, oh, I don't take this serious. I don't take anybody serious because it feels like a show.

Like literally kind of did with Willow, right? Willow could have been, people like, oh, Willow was just an old 80s movie and nobody would have cared about it anyway. It's not true. The fantasy element, if it's treated the right way, anything if you put the right story, the right acting, the right directing,

the right music can be surprising. It can be good. It's the matter of how you tell the story. It's not easy. So they're off to a great start. Not only are they putting together a great team, they're putting into the great cast. Because look it so far with,

now, I am not as familiar with Aaron Pierre, but I can also notice that there's a reason why certain people, certain people pop for the wrong reasons, certain people pop for the right reasons. This guy's popping for the right reasons, it seems like. People are pretty excited for him. I am excited to see this show more and more and more. I think it's going to be an interesting show.

I think it's going to be a show that is you could and look, it's also a matter of setting the tone for future stuff because it's going in sync with other things. It's going Superman. Now, I believe you look at, if this is going this fast, you would assume,

and you guys can tell me in the comments, it's either going to, if they start shooting, they probably start shooting in 2025. So you're probably going to get, get this in 2026, I would assume, or the end of 2025, but I assume it would be 2026. So you're going to get this after Superman comes out. Now does it come out before Supergirl? That's, that's something also. That's something all the night. Also, if you look at what they're going to do in this true detective side and having, the more and more I think about it, the Kyle Chandler cast is just,

casting is just so, so good, because you can see him as the mentor. I want to see him be a bit of a wise ass as I mean everybody else wants to see him be a little bit of a wise ass but to see him be a mentor to this kid and to see what they're going to do and to see as it carries on. And as you look, Aaron Pierre was also cast in Blade. That's not happen anymore.

He was poised to do this and he had a good relationship obviously with Disney as he was just in the, he's going to be in the Mufasa thing. So yeah, people are really, really enjoying this. And this is how you get people on board with your project before they even really know anything about it. It's when I think that everybody

who's watching this right now, anybody who is hearing this news, you're like, oh, well, they're actually taking time to try to find the right people for this. They're trying to find the right cast that fit the roles the right way. And this is a show that I'm interested in. They are trying to make this serious.

They're putting, and this is where we have, One of our loyal viewers every day here is Derek Johnson. And he's a very, very, he's a skeptic on the DC stuff. I would tell him, how do you not have more hope when you see these moves? Look at the way that Superman was cast. Look at the way this was cast. Look at what they're doing so far with Supergirl.

They're approaching it the right way. They're approaching it the right way. So I am excited to see how they're going to. to do this. But what say you guys? Do you think this is a good move? This is a bad move. I don't think many people are going to say this is a bad move,

but I could be wrong. Put your comments in there. Tell me exactly what you think. Now, what we were going to lead with before this news dropped was that Christopher Nolan was with Warner Brothers, speaking of DC and everything. So he was Warner Brothers for a long time. had a bit of a falling out with them.

And then he went to Universal. He did Oppenheimer. And he was like, well, is he going to go back to Warner Brothers? Or he's going to stay at Universal. And I always thought, well, he almost made a billion dollars with Universal. And they got to make the movie that he wanted to, did what he wanted to do. Why wouldn't he stay with Universal? Well, he stayed with Universal.

And he's got a new movie. It is set. It's going to happen at Universal. And after their box office and Oscar winning, success together with Oppenheimer, Christopher Nolan will stick by Universal Pictures for his next feature. Matt Damon is reportedly in talks to star in the new film, which already has a July 17th, 2026 theatrical and IMAX release dates locked with plans to begin shooting the project early next year. This continues the steady three-year gap between the films Nolan has stuck with since

Interstellar a decade ago. That film hit in 2014, followed by Dunkirk in 2017. Tenant in 2020, Oppenheimer in 2023. So it's also in the third weekend of July slot. Many of his films have opened in the past 15 years. Nolan will be directing from a script he wrote and is producing with his regular producing partner Emma Thomas specifics of what the film is about and who else will star is under wraps. It follows on from reports back in March, which indicated that that's when Nolan began writing the film. This will mark Damon's third time working with Nolan following Interstellar and Oppenheimer. Nolan has previously hinted his next film

won't be as bleak as Oppenheimer, but that's the only hint so far. Some are suggesting we fancy his long just-cutting remake of the iconic British 1960s mystery thrill of TV series The Prisoner, but The Holly Reporter has debunked that theory. Well,

as I say, who cares? It's a Nolan movie. Let's go. Not who cares that he's doing in a movie. Who cares what it's about until I'll be excited when it comes out. I don't care what it's about. Christopher Nolan could direct a movie about this water bottle and I'm going, okay, he's doing the beginning of how the water bottle began. I'm in. So, and to have Matt Damon, he hasn't had Matt Damon star in one of his movies yet. This is the first one to be starring in. They clearly get along. They've

had good relationship. So to see this pairing, see this universal, this is the broken record stuff that we've been talking about how there are certain directors that sell movies more so than the movie story these days. Christopher Nolan is on the top of that list, I think. When a Nolan movie comes out, you just go, okay, I'm in. What's it about? Figure it out the day before, day of, in the theater.

It's a Nolan movie. I'm in. and even the ones that you don't necessarily love they're not bad like not everybody loves interstellar I've grown to like it more and more and more not everybody loves Dunkirk

I love Dunkirk there's there's certain movies that he's done that people go the Dark Night Rises I think out of the three of them but he doesn't do bad movies there's no bad movie there's some directors and look it's not the same won't ever happen

tenant some of things tenant is on watchable. It's definitely maybe it's not as locked in. I think there's some great things with Tenant. I do. I didn't like it the first time. And this is not a thing that is great to say, but watch Tenant in

subtitles with subtitles and it's a lot more enjoyable. But that's fair. People do say Tenet. I don't, but I would like to go back and maybe revisit that one again too. But nonetheless, even so, even if you do say Tenet, Did, would that deter you from not seeing his next movie?

Did it deter you from not seeing Oppenheimer? I don't think so. I would tell you that you'd say, okay, that one wasn't for me. But what's he doing next? You know, I think that that's exactly what is going to happen. I think most people are going to go, okay, sign me up. And to see what Matt Damon is going to do. I like when he plays with the time space and all those types of what he,

and the because he puts so much research into the stuff with dreams and inception the stuff with time and space and interstellar I want to see him do more stuff like that because of the research he puts in and the stuff that just kind of melt your brain when you start thinking oh yeah he actually there's these are theories these are certain things that he did I'd love to see him do something like the more more like exploring science I love when he explores science and those things because that is fascinating to me And then, you know, and if he's going to do a biopic down the line, I am glad that he's, he said it's not as bleak as Oppenheimer, good to know, want to see another one. I like to see him play, because he did, the Inception is one of my favorite, might be my favorite Nolan movie. And that movie is about his blockbusters next to the Dark Night as you're going to get. And the other one, The Prestige, there's another great movie that he did.

I just watched that recently again. I hadn't seen that movie in a long time, and I went to watch it on a plane, It's fantastic. It's fantastic. So I am very excited. I'm very excited to see what he's going to do next. And I'm curious what you guys think. So put your comments in there.

Tell me exactly what you're thinking about where this could go, what it could be. I want to hear your thoughts. Okay. Before we move on, I got one more story before we start talking to you about Billy Magnuson, which I'm excited for you guys to see Billy's. He talks about D.C. He talks about, you know, Bond. He talks about this show, the franchise.

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Helps you, helps me. Okay. So the last thing I want to talk to you guys about before we move on and you guys get to hear what Billy's talking about is this thing. Ridley Scott is apparently he's doing Gladiator 3 already. He's writing it anyway. So here's the story here that Ridley Scott already. Gladier 2, not even coming out on the theater. And Ridley Scott's Gladys II is a month away from release.

The filmmaker has already begun working on a third movie in the franchise. Speaking to total film, Scott says he's already begun a follow-up, saying I've got eight pages. I've got the beginning of a very good footprint. Asked if he could give any clue on what the film might look like. He says that there's a gladiator three. I don't think you're ever going to go back into that arena. But I had to go back into the arena.

The chances of a third film will likely depend upon how well the second is received. Though official screenings of the theatrical cut have yet to take place, test screenings, internal versions of the film have been great so far. Scott previously teased a third part a few weeks ago telling Collider, The End of Gladiator 2 evokes that of the Godfather with Michael Corleone, who finds himself with a job he did not want and who wonders, and now, Father, what am I doing? The next film will therefore be about a man who does not want to be where he is.

The update comes as numerous new posters for the film arrived today with a new featurette and a look at the film's popcorn bucket designed like Crow's helmet from the first film, all in celebration of tickets going on sale. So that's some of the posters right now. I'm going to tell you right now, what the hell will happen there? I'm going to tell you right now.

I don't hate this. I don't like that he's writing it. Good for him. People could say, don't put the cart before the horse type thing, which I understand. but hey you be prepared

you got seven eight pages already maybe now before this report now he's got 10 and he knew and he's excited about it and this movie crushes and instead of if someone says hey it did really well we want to do another one he said great during that time I got another 20 pages

so I got some I'm working on it I got an idea you guys really like all right I'm gonna keep writing it it bombs it doesn't do well he stops writing it doesn't hurt anything why not? Why not?

I don't mind that at all. So, and I find myself, I'm pretty damn excited for this movie, Gladiator 2. I purposely did not watch the second trailer. I didn't like the music in the first trailer, but I liked the trailer.

Overall, I like the idea of it. I love the fact that people are, the people who have seen it so far are raving about it. I'm really, really crossing my fingers for this one. I really hope it's going to, be good. I hope you guys are excited about it.

The thing for me is my anticipated the ones that I put on there, I want to go back and revisit it. I know that some of the ones that I put on there did, still, my number one most anticipated was June 2 and it would probably be my number one movie. That doesn't happen all the time. And then Beatles 2 was in there.

That's probably not going to make my top 10. Bob Marley movie was in there. Probably not going to make top 10. I'll tell you what was a great movie, guys, that I saw last night, was that we live in time, the one with Andrew Garfield and Florence Pugh. Say what you want about the debate that Roke and I have about Julie Roberts, Florence Pugh. I'm not, I am never going to debate on Florence Pue's talent. She is absolutely electric in this. Her and Garfield, their chemistry is off the charts. and it's a really solid movie. It's well directed, well acted,

really enjoyed this movie, emotional. They gave you tissues kind of going into it. Didn't use them, but I saw a lot of people using them. And it is, it's good. It's real good. So I think that people are going to enjoy it. So check it out. I don't know why that's happening for Streamyard.

Streamyard sucks, by the way. StreamRart sucks. thing is flashing. I have no idea. But I'm going to, if you haven't seen my review or my head of the theater reaction, please check it out. Okay. I mentioned to you guys,

Billy Magnuson, you saw him in so many different things, and Coy has been talking about Billy Magnuson as booster gold. You better bet you're ace. I asked them about that. So, let's get to Billy, and then when I get back from the interview, we're going to take your questions. Throw in as many as you can. I got eight questions

so far, and I'm not even close to Roxy and Mike. But hey, we'll see. All right, enjoy my conversation with Billy. I'm proud of it. Here it is. All right. So I've been telling you guys all week that I'm very excited to talk to my next guest. And one of the main reasons also is this, it was so funny because if you guys watch the Friday episodes when we talk about on capes and cows with Koi, And we were talking about booster gold and the name that Coy Gondro keeps bringing up is Billy Magnuson, keeps bringing them up.

And then I was also I mean, there's so many things that Billy's been in, whether you're talking about game night, which was hilarious, great in that. You talk about the James Bond movie, no time to die. Many Saints in Newark pulling off, Pauley Walnuts, pulling that off. And we've discussed

that with him. I didn't realize beforehand he could do us a lot more sense. How he was able to pull that all that off. And then he's got a new show coming. And it is called the franchise. It's on HBO. And it is so relevant to the conversation that I started this intro with, with the superhero genre, the comic book genre,

but also seeing the way that the business works. And we talk about it on here every week about budgets, what the studio execs do when they hear certain things from the Internet and how that plays and the egos of the actors and all of that. And they turn that into a show. literally is entourage meets Veep. It made sense when I thought about that originally, and then I looked two of the creators from Veep and Sam Mendes. So what a crew in general. So joining me today on the show is the one and the only, Billy Magnuson. Hello, Billy. How you

doing, brother? Thanks so much for having me, man. What an intro. It's cool to have. And I'm glad you're a Queens boy as well. I am. I am. And we talked about a little bit. You got the Mets hat on. I didn't want to break your heart until I was a Yankees fan, but I had to. It's okay. No one's perfect. Fair enough. And the people in this. What's your football team? Giants.

John. I'm a Jets. Mets. I know. I agree on the Rangers? I'm a Ranger guy. I'm a Ranger guy. I'm a Ranger guy.

Yeah. Rangers. Totally. Absolutely. 100%. So, yeah, we're going to, we'll get along on that at least. But I don't hate the Mets.

I went to a Met game the other, the other week. I had a good, I had a great time. Much, much easier stadium, cleaner stadium. It's nice thing. It's a smooth stadium. Yeah. And like, taking the train there is just so much easier.

Easy. Just jump right on. Yeah. I went to I went into Bayside took the stop that had a had a good time with some friends so best Asian food flushing man Queens oh dude and the pizza is just out of control I mean I lived in LA for 25 years I just moved back oh really what how was how was that stint I'm interesting I mean I met a look I met a lot of great people I had met I mean I built my career out there you know and and then wanted to raise my family in a different place I'm in Long

Island now so it's like we have a we have a very it's my wife my wife is from Los Angeles So we had a, well, she's born in Ithaca, but that doesn't really count. So why back to New York along? You just wanted to have the kids around the family? I think kids around the family, better, I mean, better school systems for where we were. I didn't really want them growing up in the industry. I was right in the thick of it, you know. There's a lot of different things that we wanted to move and get away from.

And then, yeah, just a change in general. And it's been, and I could do what I do here. I mean, I've honestly had some really great guests. And because the pandemic did things where five, 10 years ago, we couldn't be doing this what we're doing right now. Right. But now it's funny. I never got into the Los Angeles or Hollywood mindset. Right.

Just didn't do it for me. I couldn't get there. Where are you now? I want to see your face. How can I see your face? I'm changing. I'm changing. Here you go.

Oh, there you go. So, yeah, where are you now? Are you in Georgia? I'm in Georgia at the moment, place in Austin. I'm about to go back to New York. I'm doing a play up there. Okay. Talk to me about that, though.

Talk to me about Georgia. Because I noticed you lived in Queens until you were 10, then moved to Georgia, right? Was that some just like family job stuff? Yeah, no. I was living in Woodhaven Queens. And, you know, my second brother was born. And I think there was drive-by shootings happening in our neighborhood at the time. Yeah.

And my parents were like, I'm not raising kids here. And so, yeah, literally build up. build shop anywhere. Oh, that's cool. It just became that part of it. And I'm grateful for the Souther living. It's amazing how once you realize, you know, it's funny, the entertainment industry. It always promotes, I think, a lot, the big cities, New York and Los Angeles.

But Middle America, America is this really great place that has some weird story that people from bubbles, you know, don't understand or don't recognize. Well, it's totally true. Even going into, I mean, granted, it's very different from where coming Georgia to where I am in Long Island. But it's still taking it away from the city aspect of living in L.A., coming here, everybody wave and saying hello. My kids were like, what is this place out of a television show? Like people are friendly. Why?

They just want to talk? What does that mean? Dude, my 12-year-old literally said to my wife when they were at some shopping place. And this woman was really nice to my wife. She's like, Mom, why is she so nice? This is awesome. What are they trying to get? 100%.

I felt that way out in Los Angeles all the time. It was like, and like there's wonderful people out there. I want to be very clear about that. It was just this, like the zeitists with the mentality out there. There was always someone like, he felt judged everywhere you went. And like your value was on your chest as you moved through the world. And I was like, well, and it's funny you say that because your character in the franchise is constantly second-guessing himself, looking at things all the time, wondering if, because he's the

number one in the call sheet, and he is always wondering, you know, how to one-up himself to make himself better, but he's so paranoid all that time. And I don't want to ruin the big thing that happens in episode three, but it is hilarious of what he's putting himself through. Talk to me about the franchise, man. Talk to me about this character and just overall, this is a really fun show. Yeah, you know, it's funny. Well, first I want to say, like, I'm so glad there's a show about the true heroes of filmmaking or TV making or in the entertainment industry is the crew. Yeah. These people that show up before and after the quote-unquote stars and all that stuff.

But it really is a village that makes these productions happen. And like, so they kind of honor them or even make fun of them. That's, I think that's a great treat to do it. That's what the show is about. It's like the office set on a film set. These unique cast of characters that are just trying to do the best they can. My character specifically, Adam Randall, I think that's his last thing. Randolph or something.

We'll call him Tecto. We'll call him Tecto. Tecto. He's the face of the franchise. But it was, it's fun, it's really funny to do a project where you can laugh at yourself. Sure. I forgot about a laugh. Sometimes the industry gets too serious.

And to do a project like this where I got to just laugh at the absurdity of the stakes that we think are so important in this world and explore the vulnerability of, you know, a lot of actors, like, it's all show. They're scared every day. And like that insecurity and then like showing that element of it has been really, really fun to explore. Because like everyone I talk to, like, I was talking, I remember I was doing a project with Gabriel Burns.

He would play my father in a show called Maniac. And we were sitting there first day shooting with each other. And he was like, it's the first day of school. I'm nervous as shit. You know, can you curse on this thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah. Yeah, he, but like some legend like that and he's still nervous every time he shows up because it is.

You're trying something new. It's an art form. You have to be vulnerable. And to put that vulnerability out there. is really, really cool. I was actually having a conversation with this great actress. We did a TV show Made for Love years ago called Her name's Noma de Mesou. And there was something like so connected to this character for me was like,

oh, you kind of, you know when you like do your job or you're doing it, you're doing your scene and I started becoming very insecure about it because I was diving to this character that just lived in this place of insecurity. Yeah. Fear of being enough in the superhero. world and it's like she was saying like oh did you reveal too much where like as an actor sometimes you're playing a character or are you finding an expression within yourself to explore and actually put out there and but do sometimes characters do open up some like portal into your soul we're like

oh my gosh i am showing a lot out there and you it's funny it's a funny show yeah it's funny well but i'm sure you have because you as this character you have to do exactly what you just said to where you're getting to that place to you know and probably pulling things that you felt on being because you've been on some big sets dude working with some really big act i'm even like bouncing like to like bridge of spies i can imagine like when you went to that and just working on working with spielberg that's not easy to just say you know it's it you're proud of it but it's not easy you're no yeah yeah but again this industry i think people sometimes calculate their value as a human being with the job they do that's true being

a human being, a good person. Right. But like showing up on that set, you're hired. I'm just showing up doing my job. Yes, it's awesome to be sitting around in a room with all these things and watching like the masters at their job. It's a gift.

Yeah, you're nervous, but yeah, you're more grateful for the, I am, I can only speak for myself, I'm grateful for these opportunities. And I just want to show up fully. The best thing you could do, which a lot of actors don't do is just memorize your phone lines. Yeah. And then just show up and be there.

Yeah. And have fun. And I think a lot of people forget that. It's it's about having fun. Well, that's what I love. That's exactly what you're doing in this show, right? Because it's taken all of that stuff where you are doing exactly. You said there are some actors who aren't either whether it's not learning the lines or

not happy with what they're doing and you have the different. You have the, it's really like everything is like a fan that you hear if you're in, if you're paying attention like movie news and those. things like all the things that you hear are happening in this show right now literally everything and it's pulled from like headlines it's pulled from other things and it also really tackles the idea and even say as much with like the superhero fatigue side of it now you can't you don't have to confirm or deny that the clear um the clear model of this is what's going on with marvel in the mc u it it is clearly looking that way um with certain things that happen inside of it but it is the

superhero fatigue side of it taking things that you hear from the internet and you know and you have a script but you're not comfortable with it because some you read something on reddit and how you have to play with that so how much of that all ties in are you guys actually paying attention or the writers paying attention to that yes one every even in the opening the pilot that thing that happens to my character and richard's character yes it really happened on uh it was uh one of the superhero movies really yes I don't know if I could reveal stuff, but like everything. Even the absurd stuff, you're like, this can't be real. It's real. You know why I say right away that I can probably say the stories probably coming in left and right on this show because you got both Daniel Bruill, Richard E. Grant, who are both in Marvel stuff? So are they telling stories about things that happen on those sets?

Yeah, of course for sure. I love Richard E. Grant. It's hilarious. I are really doing a lot of stuff together. Same with Daniel. But like, he, you know, his stories about doing Loki and being like, I'm finally a superhero and they put me in a diaper, you know? It's like, which I wanted muscles and like all this stuff and he's in a deeper.

But he's a, he is funny that guy. He is talented, funny, kind. That's also one of the best parts of the show. Like, for me, what I find entertaining in television is going on a journey through a season with characters. You want to stay with it. You can make the biggest plot, whatever, boom, boom, boom. It could be, but I don't care about the characters.

I don't care. I don't want to invest. I don't want to spend time with these people. And like with this show, I think the cast of characters that are there, you like them. Even though they're like running around with their heads cut off, they really are endearing characters, even though they're all assholes. It's hard to do. That's hard to do because they set it up because the anchor of the whole show is Hamish Patel and what he's doing as the first AD. Yep, as the first AD and what he's doing.

If you don't like him, the show doesn't work. Yeah. And you do like him. And he takes you through the chaos because it starts right away. You just go right into the world. It just open up. You're right into it. You're like, oh, that's what this show is.

It tells you immediately. Yeah. Yeah. And so tell me a little about, Had you worked with him before? No, no, but I'm a fan. Like when he did Station 11, I love his work. Yeah.

But then meeting him, he's even a better guy, you know, he's sweetheart, funny. Yeah. There's, you know, it's a good sign when you're like shooting a show and you can't make it through a scene because you're laughing too much. Yeah. That's, I find that that's a good indicator if things are moving in the right direction. 100%. What is it? I wrote, there was a certain line or something that you said.

where the hell is it? Oh, shoot. I wrote it down and I can't. I don't have it on me. But it was like there was something that you say at the very end that in the scene in the third, in the third episode that I was watching. And it's just the two of you guys bouncing back and forth with each other. Because he's got to, he's got to manage these personalities. And I'm sure from the amount of personalities that A, you've worked with, whether it was side to side, you've probably seen a lot of this type of behavior on sets.

Yeah, it's funny. as an actor I definitely operate a different different way but now as a producer of a production company called Happy Bad Bungalow producing yeah you're working with a lot of egos and a lot of people and when I say egos

I'm not saying in a bad way but personalities and like managing them and like communicating how each one wants to communicate it's a full job and for Hamesh to do that and pull that off in the show is really cool he did the line was fattened up livestock by the way

So the, sorry, just a quick, yeah. I played the superhero of the franchise of Tecto. Yep. And I remember preparing for it and like, oh, God, I got to get ready for the superhero. I'm playing the superhero. So I'm like, put 25 pounds on working out right before we get to shoot. I show up to my costume fitting. And they're like, I couldn't fit in my costume.

They're like, why did you do this? What did you do? They were like, no, we have muscles suit for you. You could just put that on. You didn't have to do anything. So now I'm like wearing this tight thing cut to like me eating pizza the rest of the season. Yeah. It worked though.

It worked for, I mean, again, it's like it does, it does really play into, as I mentioned, I'm glad that it, that my, my instincts wrong where I said it feel, this feels like Veepe meets on to rush and I look and to have that. And because it is that quick kind of back and forth, but it's not just goof, you know, is you can run into a problem where if it gets too goofy and like you said, either don't like the people or you can't take it seriously because they don't feel like real people, then you lose people fast, but it actually feels like it's going on.

Yeah, you want to be in love with the world. You want to be looking behind it. Yes, we are 100% not ripping, but, you know, making a comment on what's happening in the zeities now in the film world where superhero films kind of took over. a lot and the fatigue might be real or unreal. I don't know. You have your opinion.

I want to know. Well, that is a very important conversation to continue on in this one because it is part of the conversation in pop culture right now. And then you look at something like, well, yeah, people are tired of it. And then we'll Deadpool and Wolverine says otherwise, right? But it's an entertaining film, you know? That's right. That's right. At the end of the day, that's all people want.

They just want to be entertained. like take him on a journey like I don't know actually this is a deeper conversation you really think about it um there is this like the 90s nostalgia of a film where you could take a simple story and that was enough and you were like this is one character making a journey and like you fall in love with it and you're like what is my human connection to that character and it doesn't have to be anything big or grand it's just like the the extraordinary and the ordinary and I think We forgot that. We're just trying to throw plot, plot, plot, or big set pieces at things outside the superhero world.

Yeah. But, you know, that we've lost that, that innate connection of what it is to be a human through artists. Like, I think of painting, music, all those things. Like, you connect because it's someone's perspective and it's so specific. Yeah. And that, that's the gold, I think, with art. I agree. I have, we have the conversation on the show, it's almost like daily now, man, because it's like,

It's, I think that it's, I think it's too easy that everyone blames the superhero genre for like the deaths of cinema. And I know there's even like kind of a couple of jokes inside of the show where they're like, are we killing cinema here? But it's like, I agree with you more that it comes to a lot of times and what happens. You see it in the show. The studios want to listen to the data and see what's going to make them the most money and go away from like what actually is the core of the story, the core of the character, the emotion. and you will, and you obviously will get movies with those big budgets that can hit that emotion, but it depends on who's making the sauce, right? It does.

Yeah. But also do you not think, so I'll pose this to you, do you, social media and fast-track attention spans, like just, that's why these spectacle movies were, I don't blame the superhero movie because they're just like, flash, flash, flash, lights, like, that's what happened. I think society has like lost its attention. One thousand percent. And it also, the other side of it is streaming. Streaming has changed the game tremendously because the stuff that you see on streaming now,

like some of these movies like really kind of deep stories, whether they were independent films 10, 15 years ago that you'd have to like drive an hour away to go see. You can find them on TV. You can find them on HBO. You can find them at these places that they're making in general. And so that the theater experience is different today than. than it was 10, 15 years ago. People go now for the spectacle of it

and were you something really gotta have a big word of mouth or lower budgets in order to make a profit on these things. That's absolutely true. It's funny like those small independent theaters, we just can't compete to these big. Like I had a film, my production company put out coup this past month.

And like we made our independent run with it. We were in theaters. We're coming out on video on demand on third. And like it's just the battle of, attention to getting people's attention is insane. It's not about going to, you know, see something where you expand or or challenge your audience a little bit more. Like it's just, again, like these quick flashes in the pan that people think that's going to make it. It's true. Because like you said, and there's so much now. There's so many ways to get content. And I look at,

so there's two things I'll bring up with my 12 year old here because I was watching the show last night and She walked in and there's a particular scene where you're delivering lines and there's like a waterfall. It's supposed to be there. And you're talking loud. And Richard E. Grant has said, you guys go to have this back and forth. And my daughter looks at me. She goes, you know, dad, he's right talking about you. She's like, he's right.

It's too loud. She's like, I know. I'm an actress. And she walks back. The delivery on it was amazing. Your hair walks out of the room. That's it. She's in my trailer.

She walks out. But it is one of the other reason to bring you know her up and her generation is because of exactly what you're talking about It's like they're not running out to want to I wanted to go see movies when I was a kid It's like what's on TikTok? What's on Instagram? What's like this short kind of Do I let her have no I don't let her oh do I have a TikTok for but I have I hate social media bill I hate it but I have it all because of my business I got to know Yeah, but does it here's also this thing does it really trans like does it become a monetary thing does it really transcend like value like your number of followers

does it really equate to like value um i mean yes for my for my show because for for what i'll do is like what you and i we're having a conversation we say something that we think people want to see that short attention span that you're talking about they're not watching the full video but they're watching you talking about a scene that you have a richardy grant and it's a minute two minutes and then they that catches on it does 100,000 views and then those followers find it and then they find the interview and that helps the show. So it's beneficial that way, but the mental health of it all is trying to keep up with it. No way. I see people going back and forth with each other. I'm like, go have a sandwich. Also, it is crazy like what people will say on the internet versus what they

would say. Yeah. So Mike Tyson always says, you say, go, people are really ballsy behind the keyboard. Yeah, they really are. They really are. I really are. And I can't even imagine with like for you because you are like really well liked. You are well liked. And that is it. Not according to some of my messages in Instagram and all that. But that's, but there's so many people in the world you're going to get it,

you know, assholes here and there. But for your, but you're a well liked dude from the stuff that you're popping in, whether it is, you know, game night. I mean, I remember seeing you pop up in Aladdin and I'm going, all right, what's he doing here? And I was like, and he crushed it. It was so much. Thanks, man. 30 seconds, baby.

30 seconds. It was fun though, dude. I mean, working again, Guy Ritchie and the actors that you've, I mean, excuse me, the director that you worked with. But I want to stay on the directing side of it for a second because you are, you mentioned your production company. Well, you're directing now. You're doing your first movie, right?

Yes. We, there's other things prioritized right now with the company. Okay. I would like to direct. Again, it's the whole thing about. people schedule and doing it with the people i want to do and getting those things together it's fun it's fun building it also like there there are things i'm good at and there's things i'm horrible at okay and what i love especially through the production company is like elevating the people that

have the talent that i don't have okay oh i'll bridge the gap and get you in and like let's support you that's all i want to do because i i've felt you know in my 20s and in the early 30s that like I started becoming very selfish with this career. It's like you're always about yourself. You're always and you're alone. You're traveling alone. Yeah, you're going around the world, but you're alone. Yeah.

And I got tired of it. And I was like, why not just support people and like help embrace a community? Like that's more important to me. I want to be going home after work and celebrating with the people that I did, not just being hired, doing a job and then going home and sitting in a hotel room. I'm like, what I do with myself. adds value as tons of it yes it's like again like what is it is it worth being a star or like being a good human and like compare like i don't know it's being good well dude i'm telling you i mean i look

i was even going through like the stuff that you've done like you've got because it's because it looks like and correct me if i'm wrong like it seems like you know you're pushing for a bit and then things just started to hit because what did it really start with the cato katlin stuff is that where it started or like i don't mean your career but i mean like really when the push started to happen And you're like, oh, okay, things are just kind of picking up and moving now. No, I've really started with, I did a play called Vanya and Sonia and Masha and Spike. Okay. And then I got an audition for Into the Woods because of that specifically.

So it was kind of into the woods. That was the real tipping point. Yeah. Where I was like stepped out of the crowd of just actors out there. But before then, I was, I was working. I was doing things. It's just nothing popped, you know. know right but i couldn't be more grateful for that opportunity and into the woods it's funny like

like just talking with you now like i always gravitate towards weird shit yeah like something that challenges i love using the veil of art to like have a bigger discussion about what's what's really happening out there or playing these unique characters that are just like off the wall. I think I tried to do like the, I don't know, the lead, like, guy. I don't know, what do you want to call that? Like, just like the vanilla. The number one, the number one on the, on the, on the call sheet, like you said, in your show. Yeah, but it's always like the every man. It's kind of like, they're just the world, the exciting characters are usually always around them. Sure. And not saying it can't be done in other films, but yeah, I try to make that not, I really

didn't try to make that push yeah yeah it's always gravitated towards these unique weird it's yeah from that but and but what you're able to do also and and i think what this is this is a compliment is the fact that you can disappear sometimes and i don't even realize it's you it's where like when you had you have a funny you do that a great comedic role in game night um which i want to actually talk to you about because i love that movie and i love the performance in it but but as i mentioned in the intro i'm a big sopranos guy like i'm a big sopranos fan i just had i just had on now Robert Eiler not too long ago we were talking yeah it was great and he was telling stories about Tony Serico he's telling you know these and Tony wasn't acting no that's

what he said that's what he said he what he said he what his his line that he said a couple different times is they know people tell him that they always wanted to meet James Gandalfini he's like I wish you would have he's a great guy and they said oh I wish I would have met Tony Serico's like you did you did me Tony Sirica you know every time you turn to the TV on you met him yeah that's what you're saying so that wasn't interesting like again how do you how do you how do you play a young version of a character that is not really a character, it's more the person doing that, that whole thing. Again, yeah, that was a fun little deep dive into that whole thing.

I'm pretty sure they hated, hated, the director hated my performance. Who hated your performance? I, that's, that's, I don't, I don't think that's true, man. I, because I, from some of those proud of those people I were talking about that I talked to is that the reason I, going into your performance, the reason I thought it was, it felt real. I think that like, I'll just say, you can take one of those characters and it can come off Saturday Night Liveish. You didn't.

You came out, like you, you came off real. And I think that that's what comes into a problem there is that sometimes you, especially when you're doing that kind of thing where you have an idea of what it was, those guys who did the original roles, they just did it. They just did it. Yeah, I think I've always approached like living people that way.

It's like you don't want to do, impersonation of them right you kind of just want to catch of what it what is their essence like what it what is their breath right what how do they breathe what are they holding and that that's how kind of always approach kind of yeah like characters it's like you you don't want to do a copy no you can't you can't no it's not authentic and it just in you it has no depth at all it could feel really cotton candyish but inside of that was there ever talk depending let's say like okay this thing was going to blow Was there ever talk about turning that into a TV show or no?

Never that. There was, I think there was a three picture deal contract. It was made up. But, yeah, I never heard anything about a TV show happening. Okay. Again, going back to my intro, as I said, and tying it back into the franchise, where you're working in the Warner Brothers system here, you are dealing with the superhero franchise.

and looking at the way that it's having a, you know, hold on the film industry in general, but right in that same area is James Gunn and D.C. So my co-host on Fridays is a guy named Coy Chandra. I don't know if you know him, but he's a big fan of yours. And he, when we were going through Booster Gold and talking about it, he brings you up as the number one choice every time. I am, yeah, that's funny. I've been aware of booster

probably at the beginning of the whole superhero movement. I'm trying to make a push. You're trying to make a push right now? No. Oh, you're not trying to make a push. Okay. But then I just, I'm not in that world.

Like that's some world, like there's this weird red tape around it to get into it. It's really weird to get, I don't know. I just never have been able to crack that nut with it. Really? So you've never had any conversations with James? gun or anything along those lines? No.

I don't even know if he knows I exist, so. That's crazy. Well, hopefully, well, we'll help. Hopefully that's remedied because, like, the fact that even whether it's green, a green, one of the green lanterns or something along those lines.

There has been opportunity in, when I was younger, that it was like, again, if you get a chance to put on a cape, like, I think you should be specific about it. Yeah. You only get one, really. Well, unless you're like Chris Evans or something. That's right. Right, right, right.

Yeah, well, that's one of the also wondering. I'm like, how do they keep repeating them? Like, yeah, look at Downey. Downey's coming back. Doing Doom and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you think of that? Um, I don't know yet.

It's one of those things where it's like, I don't know how they're going to do it. I don't know how it's, it's, I can say right away, I think that maybe you could have done something with somebody. Downy's, Downy's great. He's a legend, but it's like, you could have given that to somebody. I was, I was hoping Henry Cabell was going to do it to be, to be honest with you. Like, it would have been a good crossover between the two of them. But I don't know.

I don't know what's going to happen with it. They could deliver it in a way that I go, okay, well, that worked. Oh, I think it's going to work. Yeah. It'll work and everything. But, yeah, it's funny. I want to say this. I feel Hollywood is very, like, incestual.

And it's like, if you're in the in crowd and you're doing that thing, yeah, people want to keep going. if you play the game. I see. Okay. Well, also, and that's, I'm doing a show like this, does it kind of, some of the, even the idea of wanting to do superhero movies? Like, to, you're like, you know what?

Maybe I don't want to be in that circle. After doing something like this, I'm really learning how the sausages made. We're in tights all day and wearing those suits. Right. Right. And like, that's the point of this show is like, I'm always in the superhero outfit and never doing superhero thing. I'm just in it.

Right. not when we're shooting. Yeah. Of course. As long as, like, for me, it's, like, what are you? What's the character trying to do? What's the message? Listen, I love, like, when I got to do Aladdin, I got to be in the new Leo and Stitch coming out.

And Spy Kids. Yeah. I, for me, those imagination places are gold. Like, they're my favorite places to be because it hopefully, what brings me such joy is the idea of parents and their children going to see a movie together and sharing a time and laugh or whatever

with each other. And to be helping be a catalyst into that happening, that brings me such joy. So like every time I do like, let's say a four quadrant picture, that is, knowing that in the back of my head is always, brings me joy just to know that it could be shared between family because it happened to me when I was a kid to see a movie with my parents and yeah I'm sure that's probably one of the things that

kind of inspired you to do what you're doing right because you get that that imagination the idea that me that I mean that same thing with me my dad used to take me to the movies every single weekend I would go to the movies and see stuff and even stuff that I remember being terrible I still like just remember the idea of going exactly what you just said just have that it was it was in the event the event it was like getting the car to go maybe getting fooded before or after talking Like you went to it instead of just turn it on TV and like, oh, what's on tonight? It's just like there's no event or excitement. That's why I still love theater so much.

It's like it's an event. Yeah. You go out with friends or people you care about and you go see a theater and you sit through the experience with it. It's great. Well, so tell me, so you're doing a play now, yeah? I'm about to start rehearsals for a play. Yeah, I don't think we have announced it yet. Oh, okay.

Oh, I don't, yeah, this is. So this will come out, this will come out right before your show airs. So I'm not sure if it's still going to be announced. But if it's not announced, we don't have to really talk about it. Oh, yeah, I think it should be announced. It's a play called Shit Meat Fan. What's that about? It's based off actually Robert O'Hara wrote it.

Okay. He's directed slave play and he's directing and writing this. It's basically, have you ever seen that movie, Perfect Strangers, the Italian movie? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I haven't. It's four couples getting together, and they all agree to put their phones in the middle of the table. Okay. And whoever gets a text or phone call, they have to answer on speaker or answer the text right there and everyone sees it. And these phones we have, they hide so much, so much from the people so close to you.

And so shit, neat fan. That's hilarious. Oh, that's great. So, and where's, and is that running? Where's that running? In New York, off Broadway. Oh, amazing. Okay, great.

That's great. Well, good. So you got to, and then obviously you got your production company that you're doing, this show coming out. It's busy, real busy. Yeah, I've been really lucky. I've been very fortunate, man. It's crazy to be in this world and this community.

Like, they've embraced me in such a way that I couldn't be more grateful. I live a life that I'm proud of, which is really important. I'm sure. And even last year was, I mean, where, look, there's some, there's some shots that you like we mentioned we just mentioned many saints in new work where taking up a a beloved show doing a beloved character well there's a beloved movie that you just did it roadhouse comes out roadhouse well i mean that whole thing like i don't lineman is awesome i i would work with him any day of the week yeah that was what a fun kind of different telling

that was of that of that movie because that you know you hear we're every anytime they especially 80s movies when they they redo 80 movies. So how are you going to do it? And he approached it in a really fun way where it yeah, it played uh, it, it was, my wife and I were like, we were pleasantly pleasantly surprised how much we enjoyed the, the remake. That's what Doug said. He's like, just have fun.

Like, what, what are you going to critique about this movie? Yeah. Except it's just like test our testosterone, testes room red state kind of movie, you know? Yeah. Well, it was fun. It was, tell me a little bit of working with Connor McGregor. Were you, were you hesitant at all? of it like what's this guy i did have to be like connor you remember pole punches right right

no he was absolutely wonderful like he was professional there's a lot of people around him it's the connor show when he shows up and stuff there's 10 people around him at all time um but he's very personal and like excited to learn this was his first film he was curious he was attentive he knew his lines you know he was he was pumped so like i can't say anything bad about him like he was wonderful to work with and just to play and like go through it you know that was his first time that's great well that because you wonder right or why as you were mentioning previously how ego sometimes can get there when you have a guy like that who was the best fighter in the world you could you could see where he might be i just know dude we're like four days from

rapping and he comes up he's like how the fuck you do this this is a hardest shit in the world you know and you're like dude you get punched in the face for a living and you're saying this is I mean, well, shit, man, watching the show with my wife last night and watching like the amount. She's like, I never wanted to work on sets like this. I was poor people who have to go through all of this. And just you mentioned it earlier, the real heroes of the show, the people who are just putting together, the crew and what they have to go through and the stuff, the bullshit that they have to always deal with. It's like seeing that part of it through this show, I think is going to be very eye-opening for people. Yeah, I don't think we explored it.

Like, all those crew people show up early, like before everyone and they leave after everyone. And then Teamsters alone, they're staying up driving people and driving equipment all like, I'll have 20-hour days. It's like insane. It's insane. And we never see them. You never know. No.

And they're treated. Well, we're going to learn a lot about them at least. You know, they're going to be kind of glorified in this and the way that they kind of handle things and they have to. Because like I said, you got to be that anchor as the first AD and the third AD. who is hilarious in the show too. But real quick, one last thing about Roadhouse before move on to something else. Did you,

were you bummed about the, you know, the fact that there's no theatrical release or did you know that going into it? If I'm going to be honest about it, yeah, from my understanding, it was theatrical release with MGM and then it was bought by a bigger company. Okay.

And when that transition happened over, it was taken away from being a theatrical release, which then, again, if for performers, crew, people on it, there's no compensation for the success of a film. There's only one person celebrating

in the success of those films. So I find that kind of disingenuous and horrible, you know? Fair enough. Thank you for sharing that opinion. I appreciate it very much. Yeah, I just, it kind of happened to the music industry as well.

Like, you know, there was a time when I went and bought an album or like a CD or cassette and like it went to the musician. It went to the people actually creating the art. Now, you know, with the streaming service, it's, you know, they get a point zero zero zero zero one of like every song ever played. Yeah, it's all tour. Tours really how musicians are making their money, right? Yeah, but you've got. Do you think like Nirvana back in the day was able to do that?

Right, right. Yeah. I don't think that like they would have never existed. No, it's true. It's true. I mean, you talk about, you talk about an industry that's changed.

I mean, because you're a musician as well. I dabbled. I played an band in my 20s. Yeah. That was a wild time. I'm sure it was. What's,

what's some of, give me a crazy story. What's, what's when you say it's wild time, what is as far as like, because what is that, was that going to be a focus or is it always acting, but maybe?

No, it was, It was really reserved for Rondry was this great, just like eight-year stint in my life, in my 20s. Like, we played from London to Los Angeles. We toured as much as we could. It made money on its own. Like, it paid for itself, but we never, like, made money. But, like, at the night's in New York City, we sell out Bowery Ballroom and then, like, have to, like, get the U-Hull van and throw all our stuff into the van.

We threw, like, 20 people from the concert in the van as well and driving around Manhattan. That's awesome. Being like, where's the after party? Yeah. Yeah, it just. That's a real musician. That's a real musician. That was real musician.

100%. Yeah. It was wild. And to be in a band is like, you are the orchestrator or the conductor of the night for everyone in the audience. Yeah. So you are leading the charge in what the night's going to be. Right.

And Reserve for Ronnie, we were, we always call herself ruckus. We were just a ruckus band. and we would get everyone involved and we want the building shaking it was that kind of vibe for us that's fun man yeah i mean like again and and just so looking at what i and also there is we i think we have i think we have eight marriages from our concerts we did this thing like uh throwing before one song we always did um if like in church it would remind me of church um if you don't know someone around you right now here's moment and introduce yourself. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, so it was like

a pause and it was like we're a community here and like we had eight marriages from that. Really? Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. That's awesome. That's what that goes that we know of, you know of. It's true. Well, like you said though, that's good. That goes back to your answer before when you're talking

about the theater stuff and the experience of wanting families to go see it and the fact you know, it's a genuine thing, man. The fact that you actually want these things and these relationships and you seem like obviously a people person. Yeah, I guess. I guess as much as it can be. Do I love my garden? Do I like hanging outside?

Right. We all need our alone time. But it's like when you're around people in general. And then I think that also comes across in a lot of the performances, because you can bounce back and forth, as I mentioned with comedy and then with drama, like the comedy side of it. And I told you I had to bring up Game Night because Game Night is where it is not easy to steal scenes from, you know, some of those people that you're in that movie with. and yet you did it.

And you did it in a way where it's like, and for people who maybe weren't familiar with your work, we're like, well, who the hell is, who's that guy? That guy's hilarious. Tell me about working on that movie, man. Again, a great ensemble to be a part of. I think working with the community, like Jonathan Daly and Jonathan Goldstein,

the director is fantastic. Bateman, McAdams, like Lamar and Morris, you know, they're all fantastic to work with. But you're working with people where they weren't selfish. They constantly like share it. Like we only are as good as everyone around it.

So if we elevate it for everyone, you know, it could always grow. And so I've had the opportunity and I hope to continue this way is to work with artists that continually want the project to be good, not just themselves. Right. Because we all have come across the situation where it's me, me, me, me, me. And that always kills everything. And no one wants to play with that. No, and I think that it's as we can throw it back to the franchise once again, they play on that inside of this show where it's like you can say, well, I want to be number one in the call sheet and I'm going to try to disrupt it. But if you do that, then things are just going to fall.

It's about, I think it's the whole basis of this conversation as far as being genuine and also what's the best interest of the actual project and you in general, right? And so like these, because there's people, it drove me nuts in a good way watching the show where, because you know that this shit happens in the studio where it's like, hey, we just, I know that this director has their vision and I know this, but we got this note that so-and-so wants us to do this. So now we got to do it because you know that stuff happens all the time. Oh, my God, having a production company, getting a note that is just a note that has no affiliation with the story or whatever. They're just like, we don't want to lose their job. There was a great thing that what's his name was talking about? I think Vince Bond brought it up. There was just like this people that, I don't want to say all of them.

They take an IP and they're like, they can point to it and be like, no, this is the algorithm told me to do this. So I did this. You can't fire me. No, we forgot the whole thing is human connection. That is what art is. It's a reflection of life, not a computer algorithm or like checking. boxes. It drives me crazy. I worked

so I worked for Joe Silver for about three years. I worked in the Warner Brothers system and I worked and I saw all that stuff and I was there when we almost got like I brought in He-Man. I thought he had the master's universe and watching what studio executives were doing. I thought it should have been Lord of the Rings

meets Star Wars. That was my whole thing. My whole pitch was. It should be. And watching what they were doing and the studio exec who didn't get it at first but now that we did it talk and showing other the investors, oh, this is Bleronia instead of attorney and going through. And just like, I'm like, I'm out. I went back and went back into stand-up comedy, left this whole thing in general because I was like, I just can't, the meddling around it.

And you see it in this show. It's like it's for people who don't understand the business, what's happening in the franchise is legit what happens in this business. And we talk about in the show all the time. Yeah, it's if people want to feel a part of it, which you can be. And sometimes the best note is saying, keep going. Do your thing. Like do your thing.

Trust. But that's the problem that I've found a lot of time. You have people that are not creatives making decisions. Right. And you're going like, the character would never do that. Right. The character would never do that. Why does that exist?

You know, Hamesh and the stick, the stick thing. Right, right, right. And he's like, that makes no sense. Like you can't add. No. And it's, yeah. It's frustrating. But I know.

I don't know, man. It's all those dollars. It's all those dollars, man. Everybody thinks that they want to be the one that makes the decision. Like, oh, I came up with that. And that's. But if it doesn't succeed, they're like, it's the person. And they say that as much in the show.

They're like, oh, no, no, no, don't worry. If it doesn't go right, we'll have your back. Like, no, you won't. No, you know, you will not have your back at all. They won't at all. And now, again, switching from then comedy to something. A show that I felt was super underrated. And I talked about this show on my show all the time was the offer.

I do. I love that show. My wife and I watched it religiously. We loved that show. And talk about another whole not easy to play. Robert Redford. I mean, come on. So tell me about, how do you approach playing Robert Redford?

I have no clue. I have no clue. Again, Zykeye's situation, like, what is the essence of this guy? Do a little research on how he goes around. I did not get to meet him. Okay. Again, I was just a hired gun on that show. Still.

Yeah. It was this, there's insider trading within studio systems where they're like, hey, do me a favor and just be on the show real fast. Yeah. And so I did. And sometimes they don't pay back when they do things. So yeah, it was great playing rubber at first. Okay. Fair enough.

And then the, jumping back again to the franchise. There's something I saw at the end of the episodes that I wanted to ask you because it feels like it, but I might be wrong. Is there a lot of improv going on in those post-credit scenes? No. Well, mixture. It's scripted. There's a great, you know, John Brown is fantastic, and his whole writing crew there is wonderful. And so, again, you just, with these delicate, with comedy, you have to have the freedom to feel spontaneous, but also like you have a direction.

Yeah. So yes, there is, there is scripting that's happening, but also there is, there is playing around. There's, there's freedom there. Okay. Last question I got for you before I let you go here is that I was, you know, you've been part of these big movies, you've been part of these franchises. Now you're part of James Bond and you're part of the last Daniel Craig one. That movie, you talk about, nobody knew if it was going to happen or not. He was done with Bond.

He is done. He's not done. He's coming back. And he finally does. And then you get this role. Were you a big Bond kid kind of growing up? Or not really? Not really.

I was actually a Mission Impossible guy. I think it's because of the American version of it. Like, Bond, of course, I knew what Bond was and the whole thing. Honestly, the way I got that project was through the director, Carrie Fukunaga. We did a show called Maniac. and like just got along. We understood the kind of like we had a same taste in things. And so he was like, hey, I got a role for you.

I would you be interested in doing it? And I was like, fuck, yes. Yeah, right. Or was it that he came out that he was doing. And I texted him and I was like, put me a fucking pot. That's funny. Yeah. But he's, you know, I really like working with that guy.

I think he's just a visionary. Yeah. Have you ever seen a Sinombre? Have you ever seen that? No, pretty awesome. Oh, man. I'll check it up. Sonomre. Okay.

And you're like, it's, you know, it's a Mexican film on a train and it's just like this epic, epic story. I'm like, who's this Spanish director, whatever, cut to? It's like this half Norwegian, half Japanese guy making these movies. It's awesome. Yeah. And that was a pretty, you had a pretty good experience and obviously working on that one. Yeah, it's, it's funny showing up like, you. showing up to such a big production.

It was eight months we were doing that film. And like, I remember when it was very similar to like my first time showing up to Into the Woods. So like you arrive to this set and you're going into this hangar where they're shooting the scene. And I walked into this hangar and into the woods. And there's a full forest that's two hangers full. And they trees, everything leaves. You realize every tree has a leaf. Someone had to go in and staple every.

every leaf onto that tree. And it's hangers full of trees. So showing up to Bond was the same thing. These set pieces that are just massive. And like there that whole scene that was with on a de Aramis. That whole was a that was a built set that whole town. Wow. You're like gosh, how the you know, art. Yeah. They built Agrava. And you're like, holy cow. That's art, man. That really is. And then, you know, spoiler for people who haven't seen no. time to die I'm warning you there you've been warned um did you know kind of go or they keep it up as far as in the script i don't know how much of the script did you said did you know they were going to kill off bond and when you did figure it out did you say holy shit they're going to kill off

bond yeah of course yeah of course okay yeah you do get to read it if you're in the movie well no but sometimes sometimes they hide that kind of shit like if it's what why why do you think they do that i'm i think that we well what we were just talking about before man with social media And leaks out too. Certain people like, because maybe certain people that are, you know, at a certain level do read all the pages,

but there's sometimes that, especially in those like superhero movies, they keep shit like you only get pages of it to know what you're getting. I think that's stupid. I think that it's better that you did know overall. But, uh, so you did read it. Yeah,

no, once my character died and I was like, I'm not reading the rest of this. What the fuck is? I'm good. I'm good. Yeah. right,

right. Um, yeah. So the franchise, I think just like that you said the the pages not showing up and the changes and all that that is what really happens in the film industry there is days you show up and you're like what are we shooting what are we doing the next day yeah well do listen it was an absolute pleasure to talk to you really was I'm glad that we had a chance to sit down and have a conversation and your show is really fun dude I hope it blows up because I think people need to see this show for everything we were just talking about to really get an inside of it and especially the audience that watches my show and we constantly talking about this this business, this comic book movie business and how it's changing all the time. Congratulations on it.

It's a really, it's a very solid performance. It's a very solid show and I wish you all the luck. Thanks, man. I really appreciate it. And thank you for your time. Again, like these opportunities are far and few between for me. So I thank you for taking your time. It means a lot.

Same brother. And good luck. Break a leg on the play. Thank you. All right, brother. Talk to you there. Bye. All right, guys, let me tell you about Built.

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Calvin was pissed off today. I know what the hell's going on with poor Cal. Love Calvin. Kevin was pissed. But I'm glad you guys got a chance to check out the interview. I love talking to that guy. Loved talking to Billy Magnuson. And it's funny because I saw Ed Haskell in the comment section say,

tweet this out to James Gunn. Ready planning on it, man. Ready planning on it. So there is a lot that I think that he talked about. That was so, I love talking to people like that, man. First of all, he's just a very, you can tell, you can have a beer with that guy and not even, you never realize, that's what it felt like,

to be honest, it didn't even feel like I was really interviewing him. I felt like if I could talk to somebody for an hour, what do I ask him about their career? Like, that's all the stuff that I wanted to talk to. I was like, yeah, what was it like working on that thing? That must be fun. And I'm doing the same. I'm actually today, which will probably hear next week.

I'm having Mark Paul Gossler on the show. And you bet you're asked, I'm going to talk to him about some saved by the bell stuff. But he's got a new show. Well, I guess it's season two now, found on NBC. I'll be talking to him about that. But if you didn't see the franchise yet, I wonder what you're waiting for. It's a really good show. I always like that.

I always like when I need to watch something because I'm interviewing somebody and then it's like, yeah, please don't be bad, please don't be bad. And I was cracking up the whole time I was watching it. Okay, so here's how this is going to work. It's always weird. It's like anytime I do a show by myself,

not a lot of questions. And it's also probably because I had the interview going too, but you guys don't really, I guess, when I have co-hosts on, That's when you want to ask the questions, and that's fine. But we do have eight. And I bet you most of them from Derek the Great. And he started.

He started with this. Derek the Great. What happened, though, again? No, that's what I don't understand. That's what I don't understand. See, because, hold on a second. Yeah, all right. Well, then that's the first one I came in.

I want to make sure I don't lose these. because it wasn't it was I lost one of them and that happened the other day so I want to make sure it doesn't happen buster barn sorry to do this to you christian but they cooked with this casting and we are eating good him next to corn so it will feed families i hope look man people are excited about this casting and i am uh i'm excited for it too i'm gonna it makes me want to watch rubble ridge even more now though tell you that derrick the great hell yeah this is a casting i'm on 100% hyped for this is my benchmark for the new dc they get the story right i know they're on good track. The heat he got from Rebel Ridge is well deserved. That's what everybody says.

Nobody says, even if people said the movie was okay, everybody said that he was great. Armada, I'm currently in the middle of Milton myself, sending thoughts and prayers to the many who are in it too. I'm so sorry. I was just so I was getting myself a treat before, and when I saw the news, again, a lot of my family is there. My dad, thank God, he got out in time, but a lot of people can't. There are a lot of people who are sticking around, so please stay safe. Please stay safe. I know that's easier said than done, but very scary.

Very scary right now. I'm hoping it's one of these things that it's like, oh, yeah, it was really hyped up in the news, and then it just wasn't as bad as they thought it was going to be. Derek, someone said, I donate too much. well guess what I'm gonna keep donating because Christian everyone who comes on here working their ass off and having a good time giving us great content I respect that to which he follows up

and he said I'm on the East Coast guy I'm an I'm an East Coast guy more you talk crap more I love it in fact I'll just keep donating more to spite you ha ha keep doing what you do Christian love the show Derek you have been an absolute all-star since we started doing this live show man it's like you

I mean you're you're as much of a character on the show as anybody else is on this show everybody rightfully should know your name and I really appreciate everything that you've done for the show it's very kind and you're very very nice guy very generous guy and it's um it's it's it's appreciated um armada is this we live in time movie kind of a nicholas sparks time no not really um i mean it's got that it's a romantic drama there's no doubt about it but it's it's essentially um the relationship between garfield and florence pew and you see how their relationship started where they went, they kind of explore her career,

they explore where he came from, and then how they got together. But they don't do it in linear. It's like it's, it is there, you could spend a moment in it when they're already established, and then you can spend a moment a couple minutes later before they met. And it's like the way all pieces together is very well done. But it's, it, it relies on the strength of their of their relationship, their performance, their chemistry. And it delivers. and there's just some real emotion that's involved in it. I don't want to talk about this plot details too much because I feel like I can give stuff away

once you start doing that. But it's a really good movie. It really is. Mike Joyce, if you don't mind me asking, why do you prefer a super chat instead of Streamlabs? Doesn't YouTube take more percentage of your money than Stream Labs does? So, yes, they do.

But you got to remember when I decided I was going to do for this. I didn't want to do a separate thing where it just goes to the PayPal and it turns into a telephon thing and all that. I really wanted to turn this portion of the show into a portion where you guys can ask anything you want. And it's just conducive right to the chat comes up. I can maneuver it. And it's not like just two different things happening at the same time.

And it's just it's right here. It's more convenient for you guys too. And I figured, like I said, the first hour is about us doing our stories. second hour is all about you guys and any questions that you want to ask. And I think that's it for today, guys. Derek put in another support thing, I think. And that's totally cool.

So let me see. Was that another one that I miss? I want to make sure. No? That was it? I think so. I hope you enjoyed the interview that I did with Billy because I really want to do more.

I got that clips channel that I'm working on and I it's just been hard to update it as much but I'm I'm going to start updating it more I have some of the older um have some of the older older interviews in there that I want to put as clips and then I have this one obviously want to do um there's cow he says there you go this channel's starting to come into its own again keep it up I would threaten to stop watching but I but I know I will keep watching thank you get Ken on I love to have Ken on Ken's a tricky character to get on these days. But he's working a lot too, so I like to.

Yeah, I got it. I just got Cal's. But thank you, Cal. I know, that's why I said. I just saw you in there, but you stuck around the whole time when you were watching. But yeah, you're been around forever, man. And so super, super.

There's another one past Cal? Did I miss? Hold on, let me make sure. I make sure I got everybody. I got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, no, I got everybody. Is that the one? Maybe you guys are back time.

Where is it? Where's the other one? But I have that one. I thought, no, I got everybody. Okay. Anyway, yeah, so check out the franchise. And again, thank you so much for everybody who joined us here today.

Thank you to Billy. Thank you to all you guys. Thank you to anybody who threw in a super chat. Anybody who threw in a live chat? Anybody who got one over one of our wonderful. several sponsors. I saw you breaking balls talking about the sponsors in the chat, and that's fine. Your ass has better gotten at least one of those. See you throwing around doing your little jokes. Make sure that one of your little jokes goes to one of those sponsors. Do a little clever

quips. I don't think I see them. That's right. So, Kate Herbert, was my chat that got lost? I added it in the chat. Where was it? So let me find Cade. Where are you, Cade? I don't know. Oh, so it's a Halloween movie Just as much as the Santa Claus is a Chicago movie What's that? I'm not sure which when you're talking about it? Oh, oh, here it is He was responding to something from a previous EP Name Remember Before Christmas is not a Halloween movie

It's a Christmas movie He's from Halloween, he discovers the meaning of Christmas And then he says, so it's a Halloween movie Just as much as the Santa Claus is a Chicago movie Fair enough I don't know a lot of the context But I buy it okay

tell you something cool I have been I've told you I get a lot of stuff Cal you're just breaking you know Cal you're in a mood today and because even if something really great came in right now

you're still you're looking for some shit but I respect it tons of stuff and like today kidding me built is built's wonderful H-E-1 wonderful the day is wonderful

and that's why I said to Roxy There's no, not a matter of behaving, just the matter I can tell you, looking for some shit. I've been there. I do that too. I do that too. I mean, come on. What's the deal with getting upset?

Who's cruising for a bruising? Thank you guys. This is a fun show today. I'm excited for tomorrow, because you got Brett Sheridan and Steph on tomorrow. Who knows what craziness is going to ensue there? Can they beat the ADE2 that right now, Roxy and Mike hold? Rochae and Mike took out Rocha, but can Brett and Steph pull off a miracle?

Winston and Coy have a shot, but I don't know. The miracle is going to be if I ever do it by myself. I could even do it on my birthday, I don't think. All right. I'm out of here. You guys are the best. Thank you so much for everything that you do consistently on this show. I really appreciate it.

See you on the flip side. Peace.