The Kristian Harloff Show - IGER MAKES CHANGES! Star Wars will only have one series per year moving forward?

Episode Date: September 9, 2024

Star Wars has been going through it, to say the least. Well, now comes the rumor that Bob Iger has made the call to ensure that Disney Star Wars will only have ONE show per year. Is this a good move? Will it help the franchise regain its magic? With Kathleen Kennedy still at the helm of Lucasfilm, and Disney+ producing hits like The Mandalorian, the shift in focus may be exactly what the galaxy needs. We also dive into other exciting news: Beetlejuice Beetlejuice is dominating the box office and is set to release on VOD next month. Smart move for the franchise? Plus, we talk about the upcoming Venom trailer, Spielberg's new UFO movie, and more! Catch all the latest Star Wars news, including updates on The Acolyte, right here! Stay tuned for more from the world of Disney, Lucasfilm, Disney World, and beyond! Watch today's episode of The Kristian Harloff Show with Kristian and John Rocha to hear all the details. #marvel #mcu #starwars #tv #series #renewal #cancelled #sequels PRIZEPICKS: Download the PrizePicks app today and use code BIGTHING and get $50 instantly when you play $5! That's code BIGTHING on PrizePicks to get $50 instantly when you play $5! You don't even need to win to receive the $50 bonus, it's guaranteed! "PrizePicks. Run Your Game!" LIQUIDIV: GET 20 PERCENT OFF http://www.LiquidIV.com CODE: BIGTHING ROCKETMONEY: Stop wasting money on things you don't use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to http://www.RocketMoney.com/THING THE PERFECT JEAN: 15 Percent off with the code BIG THING at http://www.theperfectjean.nyc/BIGTHING    

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Star Wars. That's right. Bob Iger says we're only doing one show, guys. That's it. Well, maybe. Once a year. Is that it? Should that be it? That more on this episode of

a Christian Harlow show with myself and John Roker. We're live, baby. Here we go. Very nice. Welcome back, everybody to the show. It is myself and John Roker. Hello, John. How you doing?

Hey, what's up, man? How's it going? Happy Monday morning. How was your weekend? It's full. NFL and college football, baby. Couldn't ask for anything better. And I've got a wonderful girlfriend who is absolutely cool with me watching football all day while she goes and runs her errands.

I couldn't ask for a better relationship in my life. Well, I'm glad that part of it. Yeah. I wouldn't, you said what could go better. I mean, I'll give you a couple wins. That could have gotten better. Oh, yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah.

You win. Especially I was in my pool and didn't have New England winning. I'll tell you that. Nobody had New England winning for God's sakes, except for not even JTE had New England winning. Let's tell the truth. And so there you go. So that happened. Anyway, so we are, so much to talk about as we have you.

I thank you because you and I have been kind of running this live experiment for, shoot, it's been at least six months now. Yeah. Something like that. And now we're going to be going live every day on this show starting this week. And we've been doing it here. And thank God that this show has kind of been where it has because it allowed me the confidence to say, okay, we can do this and people want to hear us talk about stuff.

So that being said, we will get to the main topics, and we're going to get to one of those right now. Yeah, John, go ahead. We can clarify it, shouldn't we? I mean, just for those of you who hate me on Mondays, it's not me every day for the next five days. Oh, that's going to be other people, other hosts. So trust me, for those who hate me, hang on.

Tomorrow will be a different host, Wednesday, different hosts. Right. Monday's your spot. You get John to start the week. Monday will be John. Roxy is on tomorrow with myself and Roxy. Mike, Steph, and myself on Wednesday. Thursday will be kind of a rotating panel.

You never, it's kind of a grab bag on Thursday. So right now until we find somebody. And then Friday will be capes and cows. So that is your weekly, Christian Harlow Show. Tonight I have a out-of-the-the-the-the-the-the-tear reaction for scene-o-eval. Oh, yeah. That's right. Yes, yes, yes.

Yeah, I see Transformers 1 tomorrow. Nice. So those are two that are coming up. and so I'll have those. I have my movie reaction debuted with Matt Sarah. That was the first one. I have my lovely wife coming on Friday. So that's going to be we're doing Trap.

Oh, nice. For this Friday. Next week, my friend Tina's joining me for long legs. And the following week after that, my friend Samantha is joining me for Logan. Samantha, Mona. You're going to, you're a love Samantha. Puerto Rican Firecracker. And she had a lot of things to say about some of the,

of the accents in Logan. It's pretty great. She's hilarious. She's really funny. Anyway, let's get to this first story here. John, here it is. This is the story that we're leading with talking about, and that is, in various quarterly earning calls over the past year or so, Disney CEO, Bob Eiger, made it clear that they had been pushing too hard, too fast, with their Marvel and Star Wars division in terms of getting content up on Disney Plus service. As a result, quality had suffered in the race to produce quantity, and so the plan has been to slow down the output of the studios from four shows and four films a year to two series

and two or three films per year. This has been most visible with Marvel Studios TV series, where 2021 saw four live-action series premiering that number slipping to three each in 2022 and 2022, and now Echo Agatha all along in 2024. Marvel is expected to continue that for a while with Daredevil Born Again Season 1 and Ironheart in 2025, Daredevil Born Again Season 2, Wonder Man and possibly Vision Quest in 2006, not to be confused with the much-need remake or retelling of Vision Quest with Matthew Modine. Star Wars on the surface has been largely unaffected by the slowdown, but that's about the change. Daniel R.BK is reporting that Lucas film is planning to reduce Star Wars Disney Plus output to just one live action Star Wars series.

per year. Animated series releases are unaffected by this. That's a definite decline following the shows in 2020, Boba Fett slash Obi-Wan, Kenobi, Andor, Season 1, two shows in 2023, Mando's season three, Asoka, season one, and two shows in 2024, Acklein and Skeleton Crew. The slowdown would appear to begin with next year's second and final season of Andor, beginning the sole release of 2025, though Skeleton Crew will have a few episodes running in January. It also means that the second season of Asoka likely won't arrive until 2026. This was, confirmed the other day by actress Natasha Lee Borduzzo who plays Sabine Wren. Appearing at DragonCon last week via Mandoverse Update, she indicated filming on the second season

is aiming to begin by summer 2025 and not late 2024, as been previously indicated. The first season began shooting around 15 months before it went to air. Even without pandemic-related slowdowns, it means the second season unlikely may get to air until 2026. Mandalorian is bypassing a four season in favor of currently shooting a film which opens in May 26. The schedule suggests the second season of Asoka will likely release after the movie as it simply won't be ready in time to go to air before May 26. Other Star Wars series in development, such as Lando, have seemingly been scrapped so it's not clear what series might be for 2027. All right, there's a ton there, John. That's a lot. That's a lot to go with. So let's

start. Yeah, where do you want to go? Okay, well, I think that there's a lot to it. I think that the first part is, do I believe I agree when he says, look, we want to slow down because we don't want to hurt quality over quantity, or, you know, putting in quantity over quality. Do I believe that? Yes, I do believe that. Do I also think, as I mentioned, many times over? When it comes to Marvel, I think that that that strategy is sound. I think that, let's give Kevin Feigy and the team a little bit. breathing room, let them put together. Don't put so much pressure on them to put so many things out. Let them do two or three and tell their story, have a through line and we can get back on track. I believe all that. One show, two shows, four shows for Star Wars doesn't change the fact that they don't have the prop, the works, the right cooks in the kitchen. So it doesn't matter how many shows you. We're doing one show.

Well, you got Tony Gilroy. That one will probably turn out okay. but they're not running in tandem with everybody else. So that's, I mean, that's less of a Star Wars problem. And the fact they're going to do two movies a month is, I think, ambitious. You know, they're going to try to do it. And same thing. You mean two movies a year?

Two movies a year. Sorry, two movies a year. Ambitious. Same thing. Can they do it? Are they going to lose 75 directors? I'm telling you this again, and I want to make it clear every time we talk about Star Wars. The number one change that is going to help this franchise is a regime change.

They need to gut Lucasfilm. need a whole brand new top executive level of what's going on. I've already mentioned this, not the video game side of it, not the animation side. The film and TV needs an entire gutting. But this is good for them that they're only going to focus on one because there's less people complain, you know, less things complain about for everybody until they get their stuff back on track. Yeah.

This is, I mean, this is rearranging chairs a little bit, isn't it? Like you're like, okay, look, you know what? We know what you want. We've given you too much. We're going to slow down. But slowing down doesn't mean it's going to translate to quality. Spending more time on something doesn't mean it's going to necessarily come out the best. People have overthought stuff all the time.

I mean, if you look at the new Beetle juice movie, way too many people overthought that movie. Should have been much more streamlined. Should have been much more focused on the three generations of women. Forget all those other extra characters. It messed the movie. I messed up the movie for me overall. So you look at the situation. Okay, fine.

You slow down to one. Fine. Two movies, along with one show. still think it's too much so at this point so for me what is it you're working on here that you think is going to knock it out of the park and what if it's the acolyte what if the acolyte is what is what we're going to get if you slow down and go one show then the accolite comes out and is an absolute um you know ratings disaster and that's all you got and that's all you got and you've got to sit on that business you've got to sit on business right i know business rather

and this is what you've got you're so right because like right now they're like okay skeleton crew could be okay skeleton crew could be okay and then skeleton crew could be okay um i agree with you but i do it's funny how we say that because right i don't think you're in the wrong for saying that one show and two movies could be too much because you haven't had enough receipts that says that lucas film in star wars is going to deliver quality stuff because right if marvel was given you in back two movies sometimes three movies when they were in their prime nobody said nothing everyone's like more more more give it to me and that's ultimately what led to the problem I think because they were delivering on that um and Lucasfilm and Star Wars just can't deliver on that because they can't get on the same thing it

it looked like okay wait a minute because I was I was one of the ones beating the drum going it should be TV over over film at this point because look what they're doing with Mandalorian they got it and then it's like oh no they don't got it they the same cooks got in the kitchen they started throwing eggs and spaghetti and everything else all over the place like I think we got some kind something to eat and it's like no you You really don't. And I think that that's the overall issue. And I think that actually prove that. They just don't, they don't know what they got.

They think that, oh, that's a great take. People are going to love that. And then, oh, that's a good take. We'll go with that one. This could be the one. Get a new team. If that's what Iger needs to do. Iger needs to say, his strategy of the one show for year, I don't disagree with it.

I think it is, if you can put out the right quality show and you can go, we're confident, having Andrew next year is a smart move. that that yeah yeah because okay we get you got and or in 2025 that's all you got for star wars in 2025 that's it so if it delivers in the same way that and or season one did people are gonna be okay and and the positivity is the kind of counter to what you were saying before when if you have like something like that glad where everyone is like uh well if you have this and it delivers like oh you're gonna hear the inevitable this is what star wars needs to be you're gonna hear that right but then you get to 2026 and then you get to you'll have a soak

right yeah season two which I guess you know look it won something I guess yesterday and the Emmys didn't you want yeah yeah what yeah what did you win like best fantasy sci-fi or something yeah something like that who did it go up against uh I don't know actually let's take a look I would love to see if you can see you can find that list because that's that is that was in some look oh they won the costume design costume eight of the Jedi the witch and the war look okay just the wardrobe that's all there's a wardrobe is what they went yeah they were they were Yeah, outstanding period of fantasy, sci-fi hairstyling.

Yeah, yeah, that's what they were. Okay, all right. They lost a Shogun in three of the categories and the bear or the other category. Okay, okay, that makes sense. All right. Anyway, so, but Asoka Season 2 comes out, and that will be, even though I'm not a fan of that show, there's a lot of fans of that show, and it'll lead up into what he's ultimately doing in his movie.

So you have these pieces. Andrews Season 2 doesn't really lead into anything minus Rogue 1, but it still is going to deliver. But then you got Mandalorian and Grogo coming out in May. You got Asoka, then we'll come out in 2026 as well. And then who knows what the December movie is? They haven't announced that yet. Right, right.

So they could be positioning themselves. This could be the right move. They just need, they got to get new leadership. They just have to. Well, we're in the same boat we were with Lucas, aren't we? Like, for those of us who remember those days, the prequel series was pretty much the end of George Lucas in charge of Star Wars, right? It was like that was the beginning of the end of George Lucas.

And the fans turned on George Lucas. Those you don't remember, you were all five years old or nine years old. Like those of us were adults when this was happening. Everybody turned on George Lucas and said those movies weren't good. And by the way, I still believe those movies aren't that great. They went after them. And so that's what ended up causing this regime change. Well, here we are back in the same boat again.

Why for the same reasons? People aren't confident that the people in charge know how to bring back the nostalgia of Star Wars or are bringing it back in the amounts that people need it. Because you can always overlook an occasional misfire, occasional not that great show or not that great movie. Certainly, you know, you can take a look at both the original sequel trilogy and argue amongst yourselves how many of them are actually good and how many of them not.

So you look at this whole situation and go like, okay, well, look, here we go, another regime change. So what's going to make the difference going forward? Because it's Kathleen Kennedy who's picking all these people. You think Faloni is going to get moved out? I mean, do you really see the day when they move Faloni out? out or will he take a demotion to go back to just being in charge of animation? He's not an assistant coach who was once a head coach and then can go back to be an assistant

coach. This guy's going to go off and run his own thing. Oh, they're going to give it to him. I mean, if it was up to you and I, he would go back to animation. But if he, but they're going to give him a shot. And if he delivers, and one of the things, someone pointed this out in the comments the other day, and I think it's a fair thing to say where I don't, I don't think that his writing has been pretty good. And I don't think a lot of his directing recently has been that great. But he has directed a lot of great stuff in the Mandalorian episodes and he directed some stuff in Asoka

that wasn't his some of the directing and especially in the Mandalorian series that I really did like especially in season one so I want to be fair there's a lot of stuff that he did do that was that was good but if his movie they're going to give him his movie they're not going to take his movie away from him yeah so if his movie delivers

he's going to have carb blotch man he's going to have then he's going to have power because if his even more power than he's got but and the question is not what they could take away from him and what they might want to do is if these other shows that he's involved with creatively aren't delivering

because he's got this fixed idea of what Star Wars should be and doesn't let anyone else do it unless it's his way that you've got to take away from him. You got to let him just do his movies, let him do his shows, but he shouldn't be involved in everybody else's thing. I didn't give him the keys to that car was a bad move. Yeah, two things on this. Like if you're Iger, and I'm,

I know Bob Eiger can be ruthless when he wants to be. And I think that's one of the reasons why he's so Uber successful over the years. You can hire creators who don't have the same vision as Faloni. And essentially hire around Faloni, creators that are more mature in their approach, are looking for a darker, edgy or Star Wars like Andor, or exploring these other side of Star Wars a bit more, how can I say this, a bit more in an adult way, so that Filoni becomes the outlier.

And so in a way, you're kind of saying to him, yes, keep doing what you're doing, but we're going to also explore these other areas. And since I'm Bob Eager, there's nothing you can do about it. This is where we want to go. So in a way, you can say, you can kind of signal to the fans without signaling to the fans.

We're listening to you. We hear you. We're going to try this out, but we're going to let Faloni go and doing things because there's so many of you who enjoy his stuff. So in a way, you're kind of satisfying all the areas of the fandom, or at least two of the biggest areas of the fandom, in my opinion, by going that direction. That's certainly a possibility that they can look forward and explore.

Because the last thing you want to do is let go of anybody like Tony Gilroy. And the last thing you want to do is alienate people like Tony Gilroy who might want to come in and do their version of Star Wars. So it's very important to explore creatively and stop getting in the kitchen and let them do what they want to do, for God's sake. Star Wars visions, I don't think, had any involvement a lot from Kathleen Kennedy or Favreau or Follone. Like that, I love visions. It's absolutely completely different. It's not canon, but it's completely different, but it was a great way to explore the possibilities of Star Wars. It was a good way to explore it in general. And I think that that's the kind of stuff that they do that they do. They find stuff like that. You look at some of the video game stuff that they've done.

Right. I feel like and it's, but they don't explore that. They go, well, that's a video game thing. That's a book thing. You know, that's, that's, that's a, another animated thing. Instead of saying, wait a minute, look, I feel like what James Gunn would have done in a situation like this, what he was doing with, like, Creature Commandos and everything else, too, the Calcestus thing.

And at one point, there was, I had heard that they were working on a Calcestus show. You have that kid, it was great in, what's that, the freaking show that, oh, my God, it's the one that, oh, my, what's the one from that, the main kid from that show, showtime that was the big one with William H. Macy. shameless thank you thank you

shameless yeah yeah yeah the kid from the bear so what you're talking about yes so that show right you have that kid

he's a phenomenal actor the kid from the freaking the video game and have that kid be such a you could have told that story

not only in the video games you could have told that story in a show and you've got to turn that into a film they clearly knew the story really really well people responded to the story

they responded to everything around it they don't explore them you have all these I've meant it. So I'm blue in the face. All of the books, all the amazing authors that they have. They ignore it. They don't turn it into anything. They have at one point Kathleen Kennedy says,

we don't have any source material. Sebastian. What are you saying? Look around and it's right in front of you. It's like that's the kind of stuff. Instead of like, oh, let's take a random shot on this thing. Who's the hot director? Who's this?

It's like, it just doesn't make sense anymore. It's got it's it's time to move on. It's time to move on. But I think once a year makes a lot of sense. I really, I really do for how they do. I think it should be one film and one show a year. I think that's it. For, I mean, look, give it a shot.

Again, the reason why you say that is because they just haven't, they're just not proving to have the juice, right? Or have the recipe to, you know, to do that. So I think that I understand your hesitancy. The only reason that I would say, if you're going to put it out there and you're going to give it a shot, If you think you can make it work, you do the one show, you hit those two movies, because if you can hit, because remember, John, they also haven't had a movie out since 2019. They paid $4.2 billion for this.

They haven't had a movie out since, you got to make up some back time here. And so if you get, all right, if I'm Bob Iger, I go, all right, look, you guys delivered in that December date. I took solo out of the December date. I shouldn't have done it. I shouldn't have done it. But it doesn't mean I don't also want something in May. So give me something in May. me something in December and deliver.

And that's what I'm doing if I'm eager and I'm going, okay, so what do you got? You've had six years to put out a movie or whatever, seven. What do you got? And that's what they need to do. I think two movies in that May and December make sense. But then I'm with you though, if the December movie, if Fabros movie hits and then the December movie misses, then you go to one movie a year and you just rethink the whole thing. Yeah, and one more thing.

I think if we go with the show, Christian, I hope they increase the number of of episodes if you're going down to one and time and time yes yeah make them 10 episodes make them each about 45 minutes to 55 minutes each give us time to really savor the world favor the characters flesh them out flesh out the storylines that's the biggest issue i had with the acolyte no one's gonna talk me out of this those characters were were just absolute disservice the reason you like the characters is because you cast really damn good actors who could do a lot with a little that's the reason Daphne Keane was incredible, but there was hardly any backstory with her. And so these are these, you wasting these act.

I thought Yord, I thought that guy did a great job with Yord. Give me more of his backstory. What was their friendship like? What was the situation there? Give me more with Kimeir. There was so much that he could have fleshed out with more time that I think would have made the show better. So if you're going to go to one show, give us 10 episodes, 45 to 55 minutes, an episode.

Well, we certainly have our opinions. What do you guys think about all this? I'm sure I've seen a lot of people in the live chat already, and I didn't mention earlier before, as this works on every single episode from Monday through Friday. I saw the super chats are coming in last night when I posted that we were doing this. So we're going to be doing all of your questions at the end when we finally hit our last topic. Then we will make sure that we hit every single one until we are Gonski. But we are now going to get to another topic here today. That is not Star Wars.

But make sure you guys, if you want, again, put your comments in. there put your thoughts in there anything that you want to discuss let's do it um all right the next one is this actually one that we were mentioned in the emmys um briefly there john and yeah mentioning emma so let's tell what's that why's that up there again oh no i got to talk to luke um what is that it's always an adventure it's always an adventure all right there it is okay i don't know why i don't know why it's doing that i got to put it on loop or something it's not working. He's going to text me in a second time what I'm doing wrong. Anyway, Shogun breaks

major Emmy wins record. The main Emmy Award ceremony takes place next weekend, but already FX's Shogun has broken a major record. The second night of the Creative Arts Emmys, which celebrates the below the line categories and guest stories and television is just taking place within 49 honors

handed out. By the end of it, Shogun has already racked up the most Emmy wins for any single season of TV with 14 wins already. The show's biggest win on the first night was for Nestor Barb and all, hell is. Yeah. Which saw him win best guest actor and a drama, the best dude ever.

What a great dude he was. The other wins for the show in all the other drama categories. Best cinematography, best production design, best picture editing, best sound editing, best sound mixing, best main title design, best period costumes, best prosthetic makeup, best stunt performance, best casting for a drama, best special visual effects, best period fantasy makeup, and best period fantasy hairstyling. Another big winner was FX is the bear with seven awards. Bernthal and Jamie Lee Curtis took best guest star actor and actress into comedy honors.

The series also scored best cinematography, best sound editing, best sound mixing, best picture editing, and best casting in a comedy. Also winning was Baby Rainier, Ripley, Who Lo's Only Murders in the Building, and Apple's The Morning Show. Michael Cole's work in Mr. and Mrs. Smith won her best guest actress in a drama. Other winners in smaller tech awards include Asoka for Best Fantasy Sci-Fi costumes, fallout for best music supervision, the idol for best choreography, and the last and the likes of the gentlemen, lessons in chemistry, Palm Royale, American Horror Story,

delicate the Eric Andre's story, yada, yada, yada. Though it dominated tonight, will the success be repeated at the main ceremony next week? HBO's The Last of Us, dominated the Creative Arts Awards last night with the most wins of the night with eight awards, but failed to take any of the main night due to succession, snagging all the drama awards.

Shogun has nominations in six categories and next week's main ceremony, but is expected to take many of those. Okay, so, John, before we start, yeah, I want to ask you, How many episodes do you think I finished of Shogun? Three. I finished all of it, Mother Up.

Nice. Good job. Finished it. Finally. What a great show. What an absolute great show. I mean, yeah, it was never that I didn't want to watch. It was a matter of getting the time and committing to it.

And I have done that. But yeah, I mean, you knew this was going to happen. But let me ask you, because you're a succession guy also. Yeah. Never. I shouldn't say nervous. It's like three episodes. But do you think that is Succession and,

Shogun, are they going up against each other? Yeah, 100%. Because this new kid on the block against the slightly older lion, and so what's going to win out? Because Shogun is such a breath of fresh air. But this season of succession was fantastic, especially that finale.

So it's not like it's like on its fumes or on its last legs and it's going to get the sympathy vote. These are two very strong seasons. So I think this is going to be a hell of a thing to watch in the battle between these two shows and where people are going to lie in terms of giving the awards and where they're going to vote.

I think Shogun will get the will get the lion's share of wins over succession simply because I think succession and the material of succession and all of that I think that will drive some voters away and I think the Shogun approach is so interesting and

FX being one of those you know kind of burgeoning streaming services that is getting better and better with their content I think is where they want to award it. So I just think that Shogun will eventually win out over succession in the number of the award categories. It's really interesting because the show was just so, so well done.

It just really was. And I will tell you, even though you haven't seen much of succession, I can tell you the hype behind it and everything too. And because it's his last season, succession wins. I mean, it's the last season. They give it to people for that also. And the only way that it could potentially, you know, win out is because maybe, well, now that they have announced seasons two and three,

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, so it's, so yeah, I think succession wins. And I do think what was funny, because I forgot kind of how it worked, but this is because these for like the bear, which is strange, right? Season two, right, for the bear, right. Even though Succession was, I mean, not succession, the Shogun was not around the same time. I guess the earlier of the year.

So earlier, yeah. I mean, we already had Bear season three come and go. Right. So I guess that'll be for next year. moving next year but bear season two i remember when the nominations came out and i was like how did jamie lee curtis not get a nomination for that are you kidding me and i was like oh well there you go that's yeah because she was so good in that episode you didn't like her in the new season huh no i didn't like the episode with her and uh abby elli that was my least favorite episode of the series i like that

i was such an important episode how come we didn't like that episode was so maudlin it just got so maudlin and look i love abby i think abby's fantastic and i think people sometimes give her too much shit as being maybe quote the weakest actor on the show i heartily disagree i think abby brings so much to that character but i just it's it's i guess it's not a relationship i could i could connect to do you know what i'm saying so i didn't have a crazy mom my mom was pretty normal and chill i came out crazy because of my dad but my mom was joe so seeing those interactions i don't want 100% connect to that kind of stuff so it just didn't work for me it dragged out a little bit so it wasn't for me i love the tina episode where we get to see her backstory and how she ended up working there at the at the at the you know she was

desperate for a job and all of that and the frustration that's my language you know what I'm saying so I love that episode even though some people think that's the weakest episode of the season I thought it was great so just a matter of you know preference what he called it um subjective preference yeah I will say as a bear season three which I enjoyed I liked it a lot I will still rank two one and three but that's fair yeah but not three because it's terrible no three because the other two are so good no and i think the three is going to wind up setting up a lot of stuff oh yeah 100 so much like so there's there's one particular you know it's five it says yeah i don't put the spoiler really i'll say this one goes okay they're in they're in a restaurant at one

point so that's not a spoiler for anybody um and they see a picture of a particular person on the wall you know i'm talking about right yes yes and it's linked to another movie and so the question is What people are wondering is if that particular person is that character is linked to this universe or if it's that movie that's linked to this universe. But do you want to, what's funny is I'll say this. I had somebody on my show who was married to that person who played that person. I didn't bring up that relationship. But what I did say to that person was that I think that they could be in the bear because I

think they would be great. But I have an interview coming out on Thursday that I'll put on the show. But anyway, there's so much, the TV stuff will be, I don't think that we'll lead with any of that on Monday. We'll certainly cover it after it's on. But I don't, it doesn't feel like people really care about these awards anymore, and I can't say that I really blame them. Yeah, we're coming. It's becoming very, very clear that, you know, those are fun for the occasional, hey, look, I'm going to read this on this website and roll on pass with the rest of my day. But there's no, it's nowhere near as big as it used to be.

And I think because people are just kind of sick of award shows in general. You know, I mean, this has been happening all across the board. Even like the Pro Bowl, the All-Star game, people don't give a shit about any of that stuff. So it's like it's a different world now where people just don't care. They just want to enjoy stuff. And they don't want to be told what's good and what isn't or what's great and what isn't. I'll decide that for myself. And that's the way people feel nowadays.

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expectations at the weekend box office. The sequel to the 1998 classic, excuse me, 1988 classic, pulled in 42 million on Saturday alone, effectively even with its opening day Friday and Wednesday and Thursday preview. As a result, the film's three-day domestic opening weekend estimates have risen to 110 million, possibly higher, up from the low 90 million range of the studio have been estimating. That's the second best opening, ever. in September behind only it, the second highest opening for Burton, the third best for 2024 overall, and its domestic debut has outgrossed the first film's entire $75 million, unadjusted. Global box office total.

The film also debuted internationally with a further $35.4 million for the weekend. No other film managed to crack double digits in ticket sales, Deadpool Wolverine, coming in second with 7.2. Well, I can also show you this. This is the actual thing right here. Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice at 110. You got Deadpool and Wolverine, adding another 7.2, John, that takes us to 1.2, almost 1.3, thus far. So if you go back to, you know, that is it?

Got some more here. Somewhere you go. Deadpool and Wolverine, Reagan, Alien Romulus, it ends with us. And then Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, which is funny because this movie made $110 million. Only 35 million. It's definitely not an international movie. Yeah, no. It's just not. But this is a this is this is a pretty big number kind of with it doesn't break the record. Yeah, which we didn't know, we thought it could get close. But the thing that we were talking about was funny is that you can normally judge sometimes when you see like the kind of chatter that's going on in our movie space, right? Like, holy. And it's like, okay, well, people are doing reactions to the original. People are doing trailer reactions to these things. Yeah. The only thing that I saw pop for this movie in our space.

is the first trailer. The second trailer was kind of dud for most people. The people were doing movie reactions to it, did okay. And then even the out of the theater reaction that I did, did fine. But it's like, but the movie did amazing. So it's like that it was kind of the one time where you're like, no, you can't pay attention to this. You have to pay attention to stats. It'll tell you kind of which way it's going.

And that's not always necessarily true. I mean, man, my horizon out of the theater reaction did 50,000 views. And I think those were all the people that saw that movie. So it might be less. Maybe less. But either way, so what do you make of these numbers by beetles just doing? And can it sustain? Yeah.

Look, I'm no YouTube prognosticator or expert. You know, I'm happy to have a channel that does well enough for me to cover my bills and make some extra money on the side. And so, but what I look at this situation, I thought Beetlejuice was going to be big. And the fact that it made $145 million a weekend, I thought, this doesn't make any sense. And then as I looked at it more,

I think it's because this is a film that really appeals to the older audience and to the people who remember that film from 1988 and we're excited to see the sequel. And I think a lot of those people are not on YouTube. So they're not watching these videos and the reactions and all this kind of stuff because they're very much like they're going to have their own experience with the movie, they don't need to watch other people's experience or read other people's reviews

or watch other people's reviews because they're already going and they're going to make up their mind. And so I think this is one of those movies that is just a freak of nature in that way and that there's a lot of money in terms of the box office it made, but the people that went maybe weren't that excited to just watch stuff on YouTube about it and went about their day. And I also think that the film, I know it's gotten some good numbers, but I do think there's a lot of people who aren't going to go back and watch this over and over again. And so I don't think it's going to hold on for a while. So maybe they're like, I saw it.

I'm good. I'm rolling on. I think the bill is just like hardcore as well, though. I really do. Yeah. I think they will. I think it'll have a drop, but I don't think it's going to have a massive like, oh, that's a really bad drop. It needs to, it's, look, this movie is going, and I don't remember.

I don't think you said this, and I hope you didn't say this, but there was no world where this made a billion dollars. That someone said, no, I never. No, I think someone asked us or like, no, there's no world where this is going to be. because because and I think you actually made the point because it just doesn't have a big enough international audience as proven yeah yeah but I think Michael Heaton should be very happy considering how flash crashed and burned with him coming back as Batman him coming back to do yet another character from the 1980s that he was iconic in creating and of course if Batman was already should be on screen uh I I hope he is happy now with seeing how this turned out and there's no way

they won't consider doing a third one no matter what Tim Burton says about about 30 years and all of that. There's an avenue to explore a third one. Yeah, they could, for sure. And I will tell you this, as much as I wouldn't have wanted to see this, because I really only like, I like Batman 1989. I'm not a Batman Returns fan. I know you love that, I know.

I know you love. But what I will say is even though I wouldn't have wanted to see it, if Tim Burton would have been the one to bring back Michael Keaton as Batman, I mean, through the roof numbers that would have had. Through the roof. That's an interesting idea. Right? through the you can't at this point you can't I don't think I think you leave it alone because

there's just there's just too many Batman things going on you got the Batman with Robert Pattinson you got you know you have the new Batman they're going to bring in it's just it's just too much it's just too much and and you've already had him come back in the flash if you were going to bring him back at one point had he come back as with Tim Burton that would have been massive but you know it just it just didn't align that that way but nonetheless beetle juice is going to dominate for a little bit as I mentioned to you earlier I'm going to see that see no evil it'll do fine transformers one i think will do very well um for families and everything too i heard it's getting good reviews i know i mean i've changed my mentality on how to

approach that movie because when i initially saw it i thought they were i thought they were going to do something along like the the 1986 version you know that's why i thought they were going a little more serious version but they're obviously aiming this more towards families so everybody can enjoy it um and when i saw that um and i looked at it that way in the same way that i've always told this story where watching what you always say well you know you i know you've kind of turned your perspective on the prequels right yeah yeah where that is where that came from was one time i was watching the phantom menace with my with well at the time my my oldest who's now almost 13 was like i think like six or something like seven and we were watching phantom menace and i remember looking over at her and her looking up and

looking at her eyes and i'm like oh i get it and from there when i saw that that's when i went and i've just look at and I appreciate those movies way differently than I did when I initially saw it. But that is why I think that Transformers, one, I'm going in with the mentality of this is a, this is a family version of this kind of meant for everyone and not just like the more, you know, hardcore fans because it's a little goofy in the trailers. Yeah, no, for sure. And look, I mean, go back and watch the original series. It's pretty goofy.

Yes, I know, I know. I know. The animated film, I know what happens at the end of the animated. made a film, which was pretty life-changing for a lot of young kids. But, you know, there's always an inherent childishness to the, to the Transformers franchise. And I know for me, when I watched over the weekend, actually, I went down a little bit of a wormhole to watch some of the behind the scenes on the original Transformers animated movie. And the guy who, one of the guys who was involved in making the story, he said, and you can

see this on YouTube, one of these, you know, a making of type of things. He said, like, we had no idea how big Optimus Prime was. We were just making stuff to sell toys. Right. So that's the inherent foundation of Transformers. So to me, to go back to that fun, childish approach to it, I think is a nice breath of fresh air to see in something like this. And from what I hear, Tyree Henry and Hemsworth are fantastic. Okay.

Well, I'll know tomorrow. I'll let you know tomorrow when I see it. But we have a lot of questions. So I think what we're going to do is I'm going to do two more stories than we'll get to all the questions. We have a ton of questions today. So let me get to this. This is a kind of quick stories here, but there's some ones that I definitely want to cover.

Quick news, UFO, time, handmade, and arcane. So this is the untitled Spielberg UFO film. Eve Hewson from The Perfect Couple, The Nick, Bridge of Spies, is in early talks to join Stephen Spielberg's top secret and currently untitled Blockbuster UFO movie at Universal Pictures. Emily Blunt, Josh O'Connor, Oscar winner Colin Firth,

set to star in the movie, which was written by David Kep, based on a story by Stephen Spielberg himself. It'll open on May 15th, 2026. We Live in Time. A carousel horse's facial expression and a publicity still for John Crowley's emotional romance film we live in time.

It's one of viral meme that got people talking about the film, which also stars Florence Pugh, almost as good as Julia Roberts. With the film, having just premiered in Toronto to an overall positive response, star Andrew Garfield, has thanked the plastic horse for generating discussion about the film.

He tells E.T. Talk. Yes, thank you for bringing up the horse. I haven't heard from him since our shoot day, but I pray he makes an appearance. Because without him, we really are nothing. Yeah, no one would be aware of this film if it wasn't for that effing horse. The Handmaid's Tale, Hulu has confirmed

that production has began past this Tuesday on the sixth and final season of the Handmaid's Tale series, posting a photo of Elizabeth Moss, holding the slate for the first scene of the final season's premiere. She's also directing the episode, the four episodes in all across the final including the series finale. The series will come to an end spring 2025. An arcane. Netflix

has unveiled a new poster for the second and final season of the animated series Arcane based on the League of Legends video game franchise. Haley-Synfield's V can be seen under duress in the poster. The one sheet comes ahead of a more extended look at the series, expended later this month, and there was also a trailer that just came out to. Have you watched Arcane yet? I told you to do it. I've not watched Arcane. You and Vogue are a one-two punch in my face right now to watch this thing. So I am absolutely going to watch. Okay, I'm going to watch it.

It's so up your alley. You will love this show. Now, how the second season comes out, who knows? The trailer looks great. Speaking of my oldest, she, we watched, when we first moved here, I didn't have a TV yet, so we had a projector that my brother had bought me. And we were watching Arcane through the projector, and she just fell in love of that. She can't wait for season two.

And it was a perfect time because we watched season one in the beginning of the year, season two coming up. So we'll be watching that. really good show. The other stuff, I never watch Handmaid's Tail Road, do you? No, I've been told, because my girlfriend is a big fan of

that series, but she's like, this is not something you can binge. Like, it's so brutal and the rapes and the heavy material. It's like something you have to take your time through. And I just don't have right now the time to dive into something like a Handmaid's Tale. Because, dude, it feels like every other week there's a new show coming that you've got to watch, man.

It's just so much. I know. It looks, shoot, man. It took me freaking five months in a showgun. And I am, and I'm almost all cut up on Bad Monkey. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I just have like 20 minutes left of the most recent episode. And then there's another one dropping on Wednesday.

So, yeah, so that. And then finally, obviously, the thing that kind of led that whole thing was, well, no, we live in time. I don't know anything about. Really? I don't know. I did the horse. Sure. Yeah.

It's a rom-com with Andrew Garfield, Elizabeth Pugh, the best-looking woman on the planet. And you said, wait, let me just say something. You just said she's the best-looking woman in the planet yet, but yet you got her name wrong. You called her Elizabeth Pugh. Oh, sorry, Florence. No, no, see, it doesn't count anymore because you called it. It's not even a real person. In my dreams.

It doesn't matter. Not even a real person. I just don't think Florence is a sexy thing. They're changing it. Fort Severson. And Pew is not the best. but no um yeah so there's a shot of the horse in the trailer

and it's a plastic horse that ride in a carousel and the horse has the weirdest goofiest grin on its face and you know social media man you just never know what's going to cause something to go viral and people latched onto that horse and now garfield and florence pew have been asked about that horse all the time which is why they're talking about it but it got some good manse loved it Some people loved it. Some people, I saw a couple of the critics who felt it was a little paint by numbers in its approach.

So I'm going to be curious. It feels a lot like about time, you know, that British one that was with Domno Gleason and Rachel McAdams in that they're kind of going back and forth in time to show this relationship. So I'm curious to see what this film is going to be. But I'm looking forward to it because I like both of those actors, especially Garfield. I've come around on him so much, man. He can't work enough. I'll watch him in any. He's great. Both of them are great. I mean, as much as it's an ongoing joke here with. the Pew Roberts thing. Florence Pugh is tremendous. She's a great actress.

She's really, really good. And to see the two of them and their chemistry is going to be out the charts. But the one that stands out to me, obviously, for selfish reasons and other things,

too, is the UFO movie, right? Like you got, and I've mentioned this, if you follow my other channel and the other things, what I don't want to see, like, as a casual fan for, like,

I could say, John Roker or somebody else, too, that's not really following the topic and just a Spielberg fan, you're going to go, oh, I want to see the kind of the fantastical UFO thing that Spielberg usually does.

I don't want to see that. I want to see the post. I want to see what's happening actually in Congress. I want to see them talking about the other things, the real kind of cases that are going on within our own government that's not being told that is right out there if you just look for it, that Spielberg is very much aware of and has talked about as much on, I think it was,

it might have been a Colbert. I don't remember. But either way, he was, and he's very much into the topic, knows it. And it's changing all the time. So I like to see him actually explore what potential coverup is,

those types of things and actual ideas that are out there that he believes in that I've heard him speak about, then opposed to, well, there's a flying disc in the air and it's close encounters. Close encounters was the closest thing to actual factual things. He had, you know, Alan Heineck involved. He had Jacques Valet. He had all these people involved that were actually part of it. And he has his own theories about it inside that movie. But like the War of the World stuff and ET and all that, I don't need to see that anymore.

He did it. Love E.T. one of my favorites of all time. but I don't need a fantastic movie from him. I need the post. Oh, the post approach to the UFO story. Yeah. I don't know what the script is, though, right? We don't know exactly what the details of the script are.

So it could be something like that. Because David Kep doesn't write frivolous ET type movies. Right. You know, he's writing the new Jurassic World movie, and I think that's going to have a little bit of a harder edge to it. And so maybe this one as well will explore some of the things that you're talking about. And I think Eve Houston is a great job. of upcoming actress.

I think she's Irish, and she was in Bad Sisters. If you guys haven't seen the first season of Bad Sisters on Apple TV, highly recommend incredible actors and actresses in that show. And of course, Flora and Son, the most recent one from a few months ago, they got a lot of positive buzz. So she's a great actress

who was coming into her own as a name. And so to see her being a Spielberg film, she's got that kind of energy that you want to follow. And so I think this is a very good casting decision to put her in it, because she's probably going to be the one. Kind of like Audrey Tattoo in the one with Tom Hanks, the Dan Brown one, where they're exploring the conspiracy of what's going on with the Vatican.

The Divincheco. She might serve that purpose there and that she's like either the main person exploring or kind of like the co-lead in exploring what's happening and being shocked by all the stuff that she's discovering. I hope so. We'll see. Well, what's say you guys, do you think that any of the stories that we just covered there with the, do you think that the UFO one should be more about what's, going on the actual government who cares let's see what Spielberg has to say I trust

him at Spielberg any of those things tell me about the picture of the horse and why you think Julia Roberts is the more attractive out of the two okay so as we move on to get to some of the questions he's got a ton of them before we do that we've been talking to John you and I we discussed you know it's football season yeah so let me tell about prize picks now you know for prize picks I will tell you that that it is the America's number one daily fantasy sports app. It has over 5 million active members. All you do is you pick more or less up to two to six players stat projections

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And that is Matt Boy, Conclaves starring Ralph Fienes has become, or Ray Fiend, excuse me, has been my most anticipated movie this year. Will he finally get the Oscar? Is this the one when he was wrong? You still got his name. Ray Fines. How about who curs? You heard of him?

Who curse? Who curse? No, I've never heard of it. Who curse? Or Triceratops. He's right around on the block. So will Ralphie F get the deal? Hey, Ralphio!

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And who's going to be the next? No, no, no, no. There's another one he's coming out. Sarah and I did a fall movie preview. And there's another one he's got coming out. I think at the end of the year that it's like a Roman movie or something sounds awesome. But I don't know this one, Conclave. It sounds pretty good. Yeah, I mean, a lot of people are looking forward to this one. It's going to be a Best Picture nominee, possibly poll position for Best Picture. And it's directed by Edward Berger, who did All Quiet on the Western Front. Oh, a couple of years ago. And he's the one that supposedly is in talking. for Oceans 14 and is doing the next born movie so a lot of people talking about that ocean's 14 so they have they have Pitt and Clooney back right yeah they're they're they're the ones who want to they're driving this possibility forward and the rumors are that burgers and talks with them about it but i don't know man i feel like we've kind of you know hit the end the date on that one and i would have told you that i would have told you that after oceans 12 okay Yeah, it was terrible. 12 was terrible.

And they got themselves back on track with 13. Yeah, their team's great. And I didn't mind the Sandra Bullock one. I didn't mind it. Yeah, Ocean's A was fun. Yeah, if they combined the two teams. I don't know if they will. That could be fun.

All right. Here we go. Here is the next one. This is Miguel saying, thank you, Miguel. Have you guys seen Terminator Zero? I'm almost done with the show. It's been very good. You all think it's time for Cameron to hand off collab with East

and making more Terminator instead of West or Hollywood. Thanks. I don't know. I mean, look, I've said this so much. I have not, by the way, I've not seen it yet. I've not watched yet. What I have said, and I stand by this, and John and I talked about this last week, I think the way to save the Terminator franchise is go back to do what James Cameron did back in 1984. And that is to make it for very cheap, make it an A24 style movie, make it for very cheap, get great actors in it, almost do, you know, like a, I know civil war is probably more expensive, but something along those lines is something more condensed. and do something like that as opposed to the big studio Terminator movie.

Yeah, I mean, I think you're 100% right. And we just saw with Alien Romulus, right? 80 million, and it's across 314 million worldwide. And it's already the second highest grossing film in the Alien franchise, only been out for four weeks. So it's nice, incredible. And so it was like, and if you go with the

lower budgets, you go back to what made people excited about the film, they'll come and watch it. And I also think in some small way, for the people who watch budgets, it kind of inspires them to go and support a little underdog film within this massive franchise. So it works on so many

levels to go this direction, and I think it challenges the filmmakers to make it work within the budget restrictions that they have, and that inspires more creativity. So I like that idea. All right, before I move on, John, where can they find you? What do you got going on this week? Yeah, you can always find me at the Roka says on Twitter and Instagram

and TikTok, but my YouTube.com.com slash John Roker says it is the outlaw nation for now. We'll become the John Roka channel soon, but it is the Outlaw Nation for now. And we've got so much coming up this week. We got ourselves the hot mic coming up later on on Friday. Jeff coming right off a plane from Tiff going live with me to talk about his experience as a Tiff. We've got the geek buddies coming up this week. I just dropped my reaction to Beetlejuice.

I watched it for the first time in like two decades. I watched it so much that was still new for me. And that's up there on the channel as well. I'll have a trailer reaction later for Saturday night, the new official trailer that dropped today. and then we'll be hitting. Hopefully we'll be doing some game time in the next couple of days, me and Wednesday, Marshall,

but you can catch us now and spill the tequila. We dropped a new show this past Friday. A lot of fun hanging out with Winston Day and talking about all the great weird shit going on in the world. So thank you, Christian. Appreciate it. Of course. All right.

So continuing on, there's so many great questions today. So thank you guys for everybody who's doing and supporting. Jacob Pinchin. I'm appalled by the most attractive woman debate. Scarjo is the clear winner. Thanks for the pre-upload. You go live at 3am in Melbourne, so never go right.

I'm glad they did. So that's nice. And someone, I actually think that our longtime supporter, Ed Harrell, had suggested this to me a long time ago. I'm going to try to put them out the day before. Just now they were going live, now that I know it were set time at 1 p.m. Eastern all the time, that I can do that. But I'll tell you, you're not going to like my answer here, John.

Okay, okay. Go ahead. Julia, Scarjo, Florence. you nonsense i know i know i'm sorry you were clearly dropped on your head as a child twice i apologize for you but like no scarjo is i saw scar jo in person by the way she is she is jaw dropping in person i saw her at a comic con once i was literally 10 feet away from her backstage there's a friend of of mine got me backstage for the iron man two presentation she was gorgeous you know i don't deny that but to me she kind of radiates that kind of science nerd geek and i don't necessarily go that direction

so I kind of put her in a different place, but I still put Florence above her. You're cool, you're real cool. I don't think so. You're real cool. No one's ever accused me of that. All right. Jason Trener, talking about who's higher,

Julia Roberts or Florence Pugh. How about Mrs. Garrett in the conversation? That's right. So you wouldn't get, you wouldn't understand. This is a, this is a Brett Midgeo. We had, so the character of Richard, well, I'll have to bring him in here to tell you about this, John. Hey, listen, Roker, you're not a big fan of Mrs. Garrett?

I had a time she uh she strung me up in a dungeon slap me in the balls with a ruler it's amazing She's a little redhead you may not you see you might be offended by this but I'm a I want she talked me about the real facts of life. You know what I'm saying there roka? We talk about an outlaw man This is a mrs. Garrett was a real outlaw She'd take you in chain you up leave you there for a month with a couple crackers here and there and maybe a little bit of juice Hmm He loves he loves mrs Garrett I don't know what to

Charlotte Ray. There's great, great Charlotte Ray. So good. Matt, I hope she's still love. I'm not sure. Matt Sinister McCall, had a Brett dream. A demonic lady was setting fires and chasing Andrew Schultz, Harleff, an addict, and me. I made a deal with God to see the forger and woke up.

You got a lot going on in your head. No shit. Matt Sinister McCall is like the new sniper. He's got a lot going on in his head, that kid. I love it. I love it. Oh, I will say this. Just remind you to this.

So I'm producing Matt Sererish. show yeah we we just shot well we shot two episodes his first episode is is full of the x-men series got phoenix carnival on and it starts we air it tomorrow but he's actually going on joe rogan tomorrow uh to promote it's gonna yeah he's gonna be on he's gonna be on i mean he's on there to just talk shit with with rogan their buddies but he's going on and then he's gonna promote the show and he's on there but it's um nice but yeah so it's it's gonna be good hey joe watch my show with my show all right let's see so now mike joy would you want a a meta, Beetlejuice 3, something like New Nightmare with Beetle Juice?

I don't think we're there yet. But maybe, I mean, because he's been trying to come into the real world. And I think what happens is, I think what they need to do now, because they hinted at it in Beetlejuice, Bidoo's, I'm not trying to ruin anything, but, and I'm not going to ruin anything, I'm saying, that they work together, Lydia and Beter Juice. And certainly a lot of people who, their first exposure to Beetle Juice is the animated series. they work together all the time in the animated series. So if you're going to do a third one,

I think that's the thing, is that something happens in the real world, maybe to Astrid, a Gen Ortega's character. And so she goes and gets Lydia does Beetlejuice, and they both work in tandem to go and save. Because clearly what's affecting her is someone who is an old enemy of Beetlejuces. And so you've got serving,

you're kind of killing two birds and one stone. So I think that's the route that they should go for sure. I don't know if it's meta or not, but I think they should do that. I hope that they don't do meta. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like, I quickly get Gremlins, too, feelings. Oh, yeah, the new batch.

People love Gremlins, too. Like, Mance and Bibiani, love it. I love it. I can't stand that movie. I think it's so stupid what they tried to do, and the whole reason behind them why I hate that stupid movie. Sounds like you don't like it. I don't like it.

All right, let's go. Next one. Yeah. Pac-Man Dway, movies, reviews, and television. What's up, man? Which character actor do you wish had more prominent roles? For me, it's David Morse. Contact, baby.

I'd love to see him take on bigger leading parts back in the day. He was great in that. He was great in 12 monkeys. Yeah. Yeah, he's great. He's a great choice. Which actor, I mean, it's always hard for me to say because, you know, every time that question like that pops up, I won't think of somebody.

And then when I'm walking around on the street the next day, I go, oh, that person. I mean, great to have that person on there. So I don't know. I don't have anybody in mind, but is there anybody that, If she's still alive, Charlotte Ray. No, she's not. She passed away 2018.

Oh, okay. Well, then never mind. I hope she let people go out of the dungeon before she left. I hope so. No, he's still locked in there. Still am locked in there. So. This is Garrett.

This is Garrett. Can you let me out, please? No, someone, the code was, was nugget. I've been saying it for the last three years. Nobody's letting me out. It was 37 pounds last week. Yeah, no, maybe, I mean, before he passed on, I think Gandalfini was definitely going to be set up for more lead roles. I mean, look, say what you want to say.

That's a character actor who happened to get a lead role in the Sopranos, right? He's an absolute character actor, but he was fantastic in that Julie Louis Dreyfus movie that they did together. So I would have liked to have seen more of him be a lead in stuff. But yeah, I think that would have been fun. Okay. Anthony M-7-2, Giants, oof, commanders, oof, knolls, o'f, Florence, whew, Sorrence, sorry, fellas.

Yeah, I know. Well, look, that was brutal. It's brutal. Season's already over for us for the summit. Toast, toast, absolute toast. The great Tim Simp, another news, then Star Wars, what's your thoughts on the Mr. McMahon documentary trailer? You think Bill Simmons will go far

in showing nearly all events or will be like that Russellmania 40 documentary that WWE did. I feel like Simmons is going to not shy away. I feel like he'll go after it, especially now. I don't think you can really put a documentary out this close to all the things that just happened with Vince, not include some of the dark stuff. Now, I know that you said that, you know, the woman that's got the major allegations isn't really involved in this, but that doesn't mean you can't cover all the other stuff.

Yeah, they've got the reporters who were involved with breaking that story in the documentary. It's a six episode doc. So this can go any number of ways in that they lead up to the allegations and they don't spend a lot of time on the allegations. And then they can say for legal reasons, we can only talk about it to this amount. Because if it's six episodes, I think there's going to be a lot about Vince of what he built. And it'll be tempered by mistakes he made along the way. The fact that Brett Hart's involved in this is going to be super interesting. So I think I have a lot of interest to see where they're going to go.

Simmons's Andre the giant documentary was so kind of milk toast that I don't necessarily have 100% faith that he's going to go deeper into these allegations and hit Vince. And also because Netflix is going into business with WWW in January of 2025. He's not involved with them anymore. Yeah, well, sure. But I mean, people who are still friends with Vince, LR, Triple H is a son-in-law, are involved with this. But for Vince is no better than it, you know, gloves off once you're, you're not part. of it anymore i just don't think that they can that they netflix just prides themselves on on dot the

the hbso thing on to join i think that was for like non fans really because yeah i was like 90 minutes of stuff i already see stuff that you and i knew were ready but it was still fun to watch it was i think it was a well done i i will say that the amount of people that hit me up about that that that were like hardcore wrestling fans to them it was all brand new and fresh and they loved it um but to you and i was like yeah i knew all these stories already right yeah i knew he didn't like savage i knew though but but that's not it wasn't for us the question is this is this is something different i don't mean this is just telling the tale of vince McMahon i think this is this is telling all the the shit so we'll see we'll see yeah it might like be like you did with my doc where it was

about me but also about the rise of the schmodeown and it might be about the rise of w w and and what he did right at the same time uh it's a me stevo what would you like to see have shown in that mcmand doc i mean i it it really depends i think what john just said it depends on what the narrative of the doc is. I do not want to see how Vince McMahon came to power right now because the guy is, it's not someone I care about running the power

from what he, because I feel there's enough evidence to me at the moment, pointing to the fact that he's done a lot of heinous shit. Now maybe something comes out that goes, nope, but I doubt it. So I'm not in a mood to watch things. Look how great he was and why he shaped the business.

He did shape and change. the business. There's no doubt about it. He changed it. He made it, you know, and some people say for better for worse. I mean, he did he did so much and created so much. He made it mainstream. He is the guy responsible for making it mainstream. He built things. We're not even talking about that. That's what I'm saying. That's why I don't want to see that. That's not why I'm not yeah. Ironically, even more of a fucking never mind. Yeah. Tim Simp. Also right now, Apple is revealing their new iPhone. It's a reminder that you are enough and do not need to upgrade your phones every year. It's wasteful and exploitive. Everyone have a great week. Yeah,

I don't even know. Are they doing another phone? I mean, it just got this phone. I haven't gotten one since the 12, the iPhone 12. Yeah. I've been very, I'm, there's, I haven't needed anything more than the iPhone 12 because I was buying them every year from like, I think seven or six on. And then I realize, stop. You're just, you don't use the newfangled stuff. And so I'm just going to, I just, I'm cool with this one for now. Yeah. So I understand. Yeah, but I'm with you, Tim. It's like, they change it every, and then they break your phone down. It's like a, there's something involved in this. and I know thing works fine for me now. I know that something's going to happen.

This is going to fart out because it's time for him to get a new phone. Yeah, Armada, KDOT at Super Bowl, let's go. What's that? What's that? I don't know what that is KDOT at Super Bowl. Kendrick Lamar. Is that what he's talking about? Yeah, Kendrick Lamar is going to be the halftime performer.

Oh, that's huge. And there's a great ringer article. If you guys haven't read it, where the writer is basically signaling the death of Drake's career because of this yeah this this might be my one of my favorite comments in quite a while yeah this is really this is really good jami rel you know what you sound when people you know what's down you hear when people are come gunning from julia roberts in the comments pew pew it's good it's i love stupid jokes like that you are good that's good that's good you

you're real good um armada also rebel ridge was really dope did you all see it which one was that rebel ridge yeah bra saw it last night it's on Netflix it's awesome it came out of the weekend i'm going to do a review later today but like that film was bad ass it's like it's like black earth blood black reacher so very interesting oh i heard about i heard about it yeah it's good it's so good it's not what you expect either like it sets up that it's going to be one thing but as the film goes along you're like oh wow i didn't expect this and so i like the challenging nature of the movie for us as a viewer so it's so damn good jeremy solnier the writer director and ed

on the film so I shot and then um god Aaron Pierre I think is the name with the actor who plays the lead in that okay but yeah damn good highly recommend Jamie Rell back again Gary Busey wasn't acting in Predator 2 he actually thought he was being we were being invaded he was so glad that his experience was documented oh this is absolutely a wonderful documentation of what happened that day I did not believe that we were being invaded we have been invaded there were six cans of ginger ale that spoke to me one night after I was having a discussion with Wall Walter Malthau. He is no longer with us today, but he was here yesterday. Thank you. Thank you, Gary. Thanks, Gary. Perfect. Julius Wyatt. I hate being a Falcons fan. Have a good week, guys. You're a Crimee River right now.

Please. You think you've got a remotely good starting quarterback and Kirk Cousins. Yeah, I mean, get Crimea River. All right. Armada. I need a variant of Beatles who's played by Gary Busey. Let me tell you, I believe that when you get here, I'll be in the model. If you marry me, I will marry you, and we will all be dead, but then we'll be alive. Thank you, Gary. Appreciate it.

No one understands what you meant. Jamie Rell. If they ever made Greece, first of all, thank you, Jamie, for three in a row. If they ever remade Greece within the next few years, I nominate Awesome Butler as Danny and Ariana Grande as Sandy. I think he'd be, I mean, granted, I think that Drupalta was pushing 30 when he played Danny. He was pushing 30. So I guess you could do that again. But I think long gone are those days where the older people are playing the teens.

Now you actually get teens playing teens. But I hope that you don't need to remake. They did it live on television. I hope they don't do it. Yeah, no, it was, and it wasn't that great on live on television either. I think it's a time capsule of a movie that was fun back then. Yeah. That is not something we need to go back to and do again ever.

I leave it alone. That one to me is leave it alone. Matt Sinisterner McCall, Beth Snyder here. Glenn Powell will be cast in every movie in 2025. Bill Burr or Brett Michaels to play Hal Jordan, Roka versus Fat 2 in a strap match on Raw. Let's do it. That's it.

I like all those reports and all valid. Yes. Jamie Rell, with the canonization of most of pre-MCU Marvel and Netflix shows by Secret Wars will have over 365 pieces of Marvel content, including episodes. That's insane. Wow. I mean, that's a lot of research too. Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot of content. It really is for sure.

Blake Gilbert, I'm a hardcore token fan, and I love the sixth film saga, Peter Jackson. It's The Rings of Power Season 2 is not priority for me. It's funny you say that because you didn't even say it wasn't a good. It just did not priority means not watch it. Right. I feel the same. I love the Lord of the Rings series, the original three that he did. I'm not a Hobbit guy. I think that the Smalg was all right. And then I tried season one of that Amazon series. It didn't do it for me.

And I just haven't had a, the trailers look fine, but I have not had that urge to turn it on. Even like I finished when I finished Shogun, I was like, what am I going to watch next? Am I going to watch that or am I going to go back? And I still haven't seen the Boy season four. I'll probably watch that before I watch Lord of the Rings. Yeah, I hear good things about season two,

but I haven't started it. So I don't know where I fall on that situation. but I hear good things. So at some point, I'm going to take like an afternoon and just watch the whole thing back to back to back. I had the screeners. Well, I think they're all out at once. So I'll take a look at that. I am so, so, so interesting.

So, so interested in this next one. How do you feel about this? Jamie Rel. J-Lo and J-Row in Latin Romance. If you're going to be in a movie, if you had to, if they were like, hey, John, you can, we want you to come back to acting. and you got to go back to but it's a romantic comedy with J-Lo would you do it nope you're 100% you're full of garbage you're not you are so full of garbage if I you know you're full of someday oh someday you're gonna get to my age and you're gonna realize

like it ain't fucking word you are full of it oh you're so you are so full of giant bags of shit wait how much am i get exactly because if i'm getting scale forget it from get millions all right maybe it depends but it depends you didn't see you can't outright say no you don't know the deal you know that's right it's also if if the deal is good right okay okay okay okay okay okay right that's why i've said you so you can admit that you were full of crap i didn't say that there's conditions there's conditions i'm just you kiss again outright saying no come on all right anthony m seven two do i need to see the original xman series to watch 97 um no i didn't i didn't either i didn't oh i don't if i did i'd remember i didn't remember

any of it so no you don't need to it's it they catch up pretty well in it I think yeah yeah pretty really really well I can plug anything I interviewed the voice of rogue Lenora Zahn it's put it up on my channel last week so if you guys want to watch that interview it's like 10 minutes 12 minutes of me and her just talking about her journey as rogue and X-Men 97 and her thoughts on some of the backlash that the show got and her feelings about the show overall so if you want to watch that's up there on the channel perfect okay so let's see the next one speaking keeping an X-man Jamie Rell. If X-Men goes till

2007, 2040 will about almost 40 years of mutant movies with the biggest break in between being only five years. Yeah, I think they're going to start pushing in, you know, the X-Men's going to be the future of the MCU once you hit it. They could bank on that and they could really milk that for a very long time and make it work

with good content and if you can really develop it. Okay. Sherlock 277. Hey, Christian, I really enjoyed your interview with Jillian Michaels. to hear positive things about Bill Maher. Bill Maher, was there anything that you took away from that interview? It was.

It was also, as I said beforehand, as it always is, and I've talked about it many times over. John and I have been friends for 25 years, whatever it is, too. We've always talked about this. I believe more so in conversation. I hate social media. I hate it. I think that it all does cause destruction and mayhem, and conversation is what is important,

and I think a lot of times that, you know, we're in this position now in the world where it's my team versus your team. And I loved that, Jillian and I could talk about that and we talked about it for quite a while on on it just how Opposing point of views are never a bad thing if you can listen to them and have a rational conversation about them Yeah, and that is what I enjoyed talking to her about and we talked for a bit we laughed about best stuff she was very interested in the UFO stuff we talked about a bunch of different things or something she said I didn't necessarily agree with there's something I'm sure that I said this she didn't agree with but it but but overall it was a really good conversation It was funny because I thought I had an hour with her yeah and then I think I only have

had like 40 or something like that and the publicist at one point came in because oh she got to go and um and she's like can we do another 10 minutes because we were just having a good we were just having a great conversation was nice when they did so thank you i'm glad that you uh that you like the interview i i did too she was uh she was it was nice to be able to have a conversation with her yeah um oh this is the same question blake gilbert said have you guys watched rebel rich john watched it last night and really enjoyed it so um i'll have to check it out because i hear good things yeah i mean it's if it is it actually based on first blood or it's just got similarities no no it's got similarities okay because it's addressing a real thing like civil forviture yeah

that's really going on with police departments and how they're taking people's money in a certain way okay and so it's an interesting uh issue they're tackling but it's not like overt political movie or anything like that it's much more interesting because i want to see i want to see them do the david more 1972 for a blood book i want to see them actually yeah the actual book the the the book is so radically different from than what stalone did obviously and i love that i love his movies but the the original i'd like to see like a mini series based off the david more more bell book would be great but no every time rambo it's so much more brutal than the book you're right about that dude he got he he only in the movie because he had to be a hero you know he he only like he kills the guy by accident to defend himself by

throwing the rock you know he's i think at the very end he might get somebody here but he doesn't really kill many people he kills like no the dogs when they're coming after him but it right in the woods but didn't kill him he kills everybody in the he's in the police station when he runs out of the police station in the movie he hits the guy like in the face with the whatever he hits him with and the stick and runs out he guts a dude and he's like he's like he's not and you're in and you're in here the whole entire time and and brian denny he's character is sympathetic way more than he is so it's a very different thing but i mean there's no yeah there's no breakdown at the end of like what about all everybody else there's none of that it's i mean it's kind kind of but troutman

troutman they shot this ending by the way they shot this ending in the movie troutman does kill rambo in both in both but he does but but but denny he also dies so it's a whole it's a crazy The book's crazy. Carlton Rutter, London calling. Great, Beetlejuice 2 has done well. Based on success, will WB push for a quick follow-up? Sorry if you discussed this. We did discuss it, but are they going to push for a quick follow-up?

No, I think you let him take his chance because it's not like you don't need. I mean, look, the good news is that the makeup itself can mask Michael Keaton getting an older. What's Michael Keating? What's he like 64 years old, 65? He's up there. He might even, you might have been closer. I mean, how old is he? He's got to be.

I bet she's, I'm going to say he's 67 years old. Okay. What do you say? I say 72. You might be right. He was born at 51, so I don't know what that makes. You don't know, do this and do this long. Michael Keaton age.

73. Oh, I was off by one. Of course. So then I go back on my statement. Yeah, they need to push it. They need to push. He's 70 he's 73 is all they got a push. He's only so long he's only so long he's going to want it.

He didn't seem 73 years old. I'll tell you that. How the hell is he almost 80, dude? So 73 is not almost 80. Seven years. If you're going to single digits, bro, you're almost 80? I had to break to you almost there. Okay, so you're almost 60?

I'm almost 40. Yeah, I'm almost 40. I'm getting there. Okay. All right. I think it's starting to break down, but I'm sure that they are. Luke walks the sky 54. Hey, Christian and John.

Love the shows, as always. Question, have you checked out the HBO documentary, Wise Guys, David Chase, and The Sopranos, it's behind the scenes and how this series is based on David's child. Okay, so a couple things with this. I first heard about this when Robert Eiler was on my show. Yes, yes.

Robert Eiler told me that they got a chance to see it and said it was phenomenal. He said there's a lot of like auditions and stuff from like the regular from the cast and all these things. So last night, my wife and I, she's like, I get bad monkey ready because we're going to watch that. They were, my wife was finishing up, um, Ghostbusters Frozen Empire with my, with my oldest. Right.

They were watching that together. My oldest likes it. So they were, they were watching that. And then so my wife comes in, she's like, get bad monkey ready. So she was making her tea, whatever she's doing. I'm like, I'm not going to sit in the couch like an imbecile. I'm going to watch something until she gets back. So I started watching that.

And the opening alone, I'm like, oh, I'm good. This is that's so I lied to you before, John. I said that I was going to watch the boys next. That's what I'm watching next. I'll be watching this. Okay. Yeah. You watch the bad monkey next or what are you watching?

No, no, no. I'm going to be watching this David Chase thing next. Oh, yeah, yeah, me too. They're an hour and 15 each of them. Okay, how many are there? There's two right now on HBO. I think there's only two episodes, but an hour and 15, hour and 22 each. So it's like it's a hunk amount of time, but I can't wait to watch it.

Can't wait. Can't wait. Okay, next one. EWalk, do you think they might kill off Hal Jordan in season one? Could explain why they're courting big names for the role. I think that would be stupid if they did that. I think that you want to court, if you want to court a big name, whether it's McConaughey,

Brolin, McGregor, you want to have them in a movie. You don't just put them in a TV show if you're expanding it. That would be silly if they killed them all. And Green Lantern has gone in so many different directions in the comics. They could just ascend him to the next quadrant

or he could become Spector by the end of the first season. So he's something else in the second season while John Stewart takes the lead of the second season. And like Christian said, you're working both of them towards a movie down the road. So, yeah, no, there's no way they kill Hale Jordan. No. And if you're going to do it, you're going to do it in a movie. Right, fair point.

Yeah. Right. Fair point. Yeah. that's what I would say. That's, that's, hell and sell with a street, street fight aspect to it. And so punk is going to do,

you think they're going to give him a, you think they're going to get him a title match? They are, they're lining him up for Gunther. He's not going to beat Gunther. No, that's what I'm saying, they're lining him up for Gunther, but like that's, they're not going to beat Gunther. So like, you know, and then he's got, yeah, because right now, Cody,

Cody's going to be champion until at least WrestleMania, which you probably at least, yeah, until WrestleMania. For WrestleMania. And so. yeah, I can't see them doing it. So this is where he belongs in these fuse right now. And then would you think he beats McIntyre in the third match? No, I think McIntyre was he's not here to win any of it.

He's not. He really knows his role now. He really does. Yeah. Yeah. And he looks like he's having the greatest time being back. There's no pressure, no stress. He's not the lead dog.

He gets to chill out and work these programs, work with people he really looks at and Myers, puts people over, helps the women out down in NXT. he's gone down there. A lot of them speak about how the counsel and the advice he's given them has really helped them. And so punk is like in a new renaissance now and people really appreciate him and what he's doing. And there's all these feuds that can come that he'll be great. I mean, I thought this match with Drew was a lot of fun. Best match he's had in years, including the EW. I missed the most recent one.

I missed it. Daniel Hernandez says, Drake being eyed for Predator Spinoff Child Pred. Oh, come on. Oh, come on. All right, let's see. Next one. This is from Luke walks the sky, 54. Are you worried about the mixed reviews for Joker?

Still one of my most anticipated this year regardless. No, I'm not worried about it because the first one got mixed reviews too. It did. Go look back and run to me. It was a 61% or 69% with the critics. And it's also, the other thing that is, it's the musical aspect of it too. And if they didn't, they don't feel like it was handled the right way. This could be a movie that I wind up loving.

that the critics are on the other side of it. So no, I'm not worried about that because the trailers look really good for me. But there's also a possibility. I'm like, oh, they took a big swing and I just don't think it worked. Yeah, I think it's one of those. I think you're absolutely right on that last point, Christian. I think it's a film that clearly Todd Phillips took a big swing with. Some critics are liking it.

Some critics aren't. But I also think Joker is one of those, like the first film, there are a lot of touchy-feely critics who are really upset about that film. And, like, what's the message you're saying? And all the crybaby toxic shit that I'm, like, I don't give a crap about any of that. I loved the first Joker movie. I love what it explored, what it challenged you to take a look at with this guy, and how uncomfortable it made you. I love that Todd Phillips went for it in that first movie. So if he goes forward in the same kind of way

in the second movie, I'm going to be enjoying the hell out of it. But yes, the mixed reviews make me think, okay, I'm tempering my expectations. Let's see if it surprises me or not. Yeah. All right. Okay. So here's another one. This is Ryan King. Inside Out 2. is now the eighth biggest movie of all time worldwide with 1.67 billion will any other 2024 movie challenges no no um now there could be other movies that get a chance to make a billion like i still think mufasa as much as i don't really care about this movie whatsoever i think has an opportunity to actually make that kind of money but i don't think it nothing one point seven no it's not going to get nothing's going to get to 1.7 no no no um there's nothing i could even i mean

I mean, yeah, I can't imagine anything doing it. Nope. Okay, we got more and more and more coming in here. Okay. Right now, John, yeah, John, you got the record right now at 40, man. Look at that. 40 questions. Okay, next question here.

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Is Jedi Council ever coming back? No way. No way. I first of all, between that and Clyder Live, didn't enjoy doing those shows. Oh, yeah. Didn't like those shows. And it's a very different time these days. And I did the Sith Council for a little bit.

Star Wars is not a place in a place for me right now that I want to talk about it. You know every week and all the stories and all the things coming out because it's just not a to me it doesn't seem like it's it's that It's that era when we started that I started far far away which is still probably my favorite star war show that I've Oh yeah I loved yeah. That's the that's the show that walked me into the business That was the one I do it to me that that's probably the best star war show that I that I've that I've done You guys were great on that so that was a lot of fun really really good and I and I really enjoyed the Sith Council one for the back and forth that Mike and I and Steph have But it's just like it's you know back at that time, the positivity and the idea, like, you could, because everyone was excited about it.

Yeah. Yeah. I just don't think that it's completely genuine to be super positive about Star Wars right now because it's like, and I don't want to be, and I don't want to hate on it all the time because it's not what I do. But I want to be in that, okay, look, I cannot tell you how more, I am so hoping that skeleton crew is great. I hope it is. I'm going to be covering that show. I cover the show. we cover me in hell the today's main topic was the star war story we'll still do that i still

lost my it's like i'll always be a yankee fan even if it turns out you know they're going back and forth with the orioes right now it's like come on just get their shit they're in good they're in good spot right now but there's times where they've been in second of last place they've been you know they've been in that spot you don't give up on them you just hope that they get better yeah but i don't want to doing a doing a weekly show in the way that that was like yeah i left jedi counsel for a reason yeah um all right So, call me Java. My ideal Star Wars is one long anthology show that can dip into different periods. I've said this.

This is my idea as well, as well, I'll say, Call Me Java. For three or four episode arcs for guest cast good stories. These movies can jump right into action close arc. We're on the same page. I've said this before to do an anthology Star Wars series where you could just do it, call it Star Wars, and each and every week you could basically do any era of what you wanted to do. So this week, you do the Old Republic. It's essentially what Visions did.

you know, visions did like different time periods, but you make it, you connect them throughout, you know, the timelines and make them can and stuff and if you want to revisit certain stories. But yes, 100%. I've talked about that before, Call Me Jabba, and I think you and I are on the same page. I should 100% absolutely do that. Miguel Zane, Chris Pine or Timothy Oliphon as Hal. I think you brought this up the other day. And then Mike, Mike was on board with this too and the Chris Pine I did. Chris Pines a good is a good call. I know. I like him. I was re-watching us into darkness over the weekend for like half an hour on one of the

chimals. And I was like, man, I love Chris Pine. Just love the energy of this guy. And so he's been kind of lost for a bit. Dungeons and Dragons. He was so good in Dungeons and Dragons. He was so great in Dungeons. But of course, they didn't do well in the box office, which is a show. And so like, where can he land? And I thought him with Hal Jordan would be great. If they could adjust their approach to make him just a little bit under 55, I think he be perfect choice i loved i loved dungeons and dragons love that's a good too good dame and idress as john stewart thoughts rocca have you heard anything about the authority film thanks from

toronto which what's what's the authority come that's the one that they're going to um debut the authority in the superman movie so they're going to be a group of kind of anti heroes that go up again superman so and they cast all of them already i think for the most part and so yeah i haven't heard anything about the film i don't know when they're going to start shooting i've seen the pictures of millie alcock already so they're they're certainly focusing on shooting supergirl next and so i think that's the focus now and the authority will come i think they're going to wait until how people receive the authority in superman to decide where they're going with that movie at this point that's what it seems like to me all right uh unheard sirens incorporated

here's a five dollar donation for gary busy i appreciate it sometimes i take a five dollar bill put a little ketchup with relish on the side of it i don't put it on the five dollar bill I put it toward the left so it hits the left son of Neuron, which is where I was born tomorrow. Do you like donuts? As do I. There you go. It's a stream of consciousness. Gary just goes, man.

Gary is the Terrence Malick of talk. Yes. I am Jacks 12. And or like adult Star Wars would be great. But Andor's production and execution should be the blueprint. Yes. Priority given to the highest quality writing, directing, and storytelling. 45 minute runtime at minimum.

Preach. I am Jack's preach. That's where it's like it should all be run. It doesn't necessarily have to be dreary like and or. It doesn't have to be. But that seriousness of like treating it, it feels like an HBO Mac show. And that's what it should feel like. It doesn't, all the other ones just feel like animated shows come to life.

Yeah. All right. Buster Barnes. How much money do you think Superman needs to make to be deemed somewhat successful? We don't know the budget, but it means in terms of viewing count. Well, I mean, you have to determine the budget. So I'm going to say that Superman is going to probably be a $200 million budget at least, right? At least.

At least. So I'm going to tell you it needs to make a least between 600 to 700 to be ahead. Yeah, you and me different on this. I think for it to be the tent pole they want it to be, I think it has to get to $800, $900, $900 to a billion. I think that's where $800 to a billion is where it needs to. exist in because man it still made 770 million and didn't and people thought it was a failure it's true so that's true it depends on it depends on budget it really does it depends on budget depends on how it's received depends on critically because if it's a win but if it's a win financially

it's a win financially whether it hits a billion or not if it's a win overall like financially you can say well it made profit it made profit and so sorry sorry 670 million that's so still close enough to 700 million yeah that it should have been considered a hit but it was considered a failure. Or a middling box office, which are. We'll see. Yes, boy, who wins in a shoot fight? Randy Orton or Machine Gun Kelly? What? Andy Orton. Yeah, Machine Gun Kelly went on a podcast. And I don't know if this is a shoot or a work, but he went on a podcast and he said that he went up to Randy and like challenged Randy and all this stuff. And Randy had said some things untoward about him. So he went up and challenged him to his face and stuff. He tried to brag about this. The same one that, you know,

M&M folded into a little case and made him change his complete sound. Mishing and Kelly thinks he can start something. No, I don't think this has to be it. This is probably a... I hope he was Randy would turn him into a toothpick. He was just that WrestleMania doing that or whatever, whatever, WrestleMania, but he was at the SummerSlam, right?

Yeah, that's what he was talking about. He went up to Randy backstage for SummerSlee. This is probably part of a thing. Come on, come on. Randy Orton would turn him into a paper ball. Yeah. Come on. There's no, no, no way.

He was in his baseball. That's BS. Pete Parker 2288. Let's go Finn's free Tyreek. I don't know if you know this Christian, but they detained Tyreek yesterday before the game, Tyree Kill. Oh no. You've seen the video.

He was literally like a block away from the stadium. What do you do? There was a traffic incident. I think he ran around. I don't know what it was. But one of the cops hit him while he was detained, while he was handcuffed. And his teammates were driving by and they all took video.

Calais Campbell got out and confronted the cops and back and forth. He got put in handcuffs as well. So it was a whole thing. Then they let Tyreek go. He went and played the game, got 130 yards in a touchdown. They beat the Jaguars. So, but his post-game press conference, I think, was really illuminating.

That being said, Tyreeks had some really terrible things he's done in the past. So it's a weird situation overall. Got it. Yeah. Okay. Pete Parker, 2288. Rebel Ridge is a little slow for me. I was expecting walking tall or first blood.

I still plan to finish it. Pierre would be a great John Stewart. Yeah, I agree with that. Didn't you bring that up last week? Somebody did it. No, no, because I didn't know about this guy until I watched last night. Oh, okay.

Yeah, okay. The great, speak of Ed Hassel. Hey, guys, I did a rewatch of the 80s classic The Hitcher with Rutger Hauer and C. Thomas Howell. Rutger was so terrifying. Christian, do a reaction for that. Well, you got to, Ed.

Ed. Ed can't be my, I'm not going to let you. And people are going to watch their reaction. I'm not going to let Ed be my content producer. if he's putting out the hitcher. Both you and Roker will watch it. You wouldn't even watch it. So it would just be you watching it over and repeat.

No, it's got to be stuff that people actually want to watch. I love you. That's not the 80s movie I'm going to go with. I'm going to go with that. But it is a strategy as far as how these things are. Like when it comes to the reactions, like I've got, we did the Borderlands one. And it wasn't Matt Sarah.

I don't think anybody would have watched the damn thing anyway. Nobody cared about that movie. But the next, but I think people are going to tune in for trap because they're curious about the reaction for that in general. Plus, my wife is making her debut on it, so I think people will check that out. Long Legs is an interesting one. I don't know how that's going to go. It was a popular movie, I wonder.

And then I think that the one that's going to do the best for me is Logan. I think that not only is it because, like, I've seen it. I haven't seen it in so long. I forgot a lot of this stuff. Sam didn't even know what it was. When I put it on for her, she had no clue. She said, I have no idea what I'm about to watch. She didn't, she knew nothing about it.

She's seen none of the X-Men movies. She said, nothing. She knew nothing. It was, it was a great, great reaction. We had tears, John. We had tears, twice. Wow, tears. Yeah, that's twice.

You actually watch the movie because it's a movie. It's a touching move. Okay, next one. It's a me, Steve. More letdown career. Logan Lerman or the Kingsman Kid. Kingsman Kid, Tarynne Egerton's doing, I would have to say, look, I like Logan Lerman,

but I would say Tarynne Egerton's having a much better career than Logan Lerman. Kingsman kid. You talking about Tarynne Egerton? Do you see Blackbird? It's phenomenal in that. Yeah, true. Yeah, he's, I think, yeah, not even a question. Taryn Egerton's having a much, much better.

Oh, yeah, better than Logan's for sure, yeah. Yeah, but that's it. That's what we got. That's it. That's 40, 40, okay? 44. 44. Yeah, 44, John. It's 44.

And then you, right now, you have the record right now as of today. So, but guys, thank you for joining us here today. This is our first live show with the first, you know, all first to five, for the first time we've gone five. in a week ever. So thank you for that. I'd like to thank John for being here on it. John, where can they find you? Hey, Roxie, suck it.

Yeah, you can find me at the Roka says on Twitter. I love her. At the Rook says on Twitter, Instagram and TikTok, the Outlaw Nation on Twitch. And my YouTube channel, YouTube.com slash John Roka says, come over, people. I'm trying to get to 50,000. Help me get to 50,000. So I can get even cooler guests and the more people involved in it. Would appreciate it.

Thank you so much. And Christian, thanks so much. Have a great rest of your week, everybody. Monday. Thanks, John. Thanks for being here today. John Roka. Thank you guys.

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So it'll be Roxy and Mike. And now I've got to put those two and tell him that. Oh, did we get another one? We got another one that just came in. Carver Tate, just wanted to say thank you to you and John. Well, so John is 45. So now Mike and Roxy have to beat 45 tomorrow. I don't think he's going to happen.

But we'll see. Thanks for being here, guys. Thanks to all of you. I really appreciate it. And we'll see you very, very soon. Peace.