The Kristian Harloff Show - Indiana Jones and The Internet | The Big Thing

Episode Date: June 21, 2021

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To learn more, go to sleepnumber.com. What's going on? Everybody, welcome back to the big show, big thing, the big show of the big thing. Only episode three, and I'm already messing up the title. Nice to have everybody back. Happy Monday. Happy Monday on this. What the hell is it today? I don't know. It's still June. Oh, my God. Really? What? It's still June. It's, it's Monday. Yeah, but it's still June. Do the math. You just try to find a marker as to, oh, well, this, I know this day was this, because we had this. Yeah.

So for you, it might be the 19th, which was Saturday. Right. Had it had a big shoot that we all participated in. 20th was Father's Day, which I enjoyed. It was really good. As you should. Why? Because you are a.

Dad. Animal. Oh. Close. And then so today would be the 21st. Well, Monday the 21st. Okay.

Yeah. Nice job. How was your father's day? It was wonderful. I really liked it. Should I tell you about how I, how I hope that it would turn out? And then hopefully that is actually how it turns out. I'll open for you.

Yeah, go ahead. Because I got to throw the ball around with your kid a little bit. And she's really becoming, like, the athlete that I can actually hang out with and play sports against. Yes. She's getting there. She wants to play. I threw her some grounders. She's getting it.

She's got the glove. Now she's into baseball and softball. And so I'm like, all right, look, do I want you to stay with basketball? Yes. But I want you to follow your heart. And as long as that's on some sort of sports surface, then I'll follow you. So I'm throwing her grounders. And then I started throwing her some pop-ups.

She had a Willie Mace. Did she tell me about it? Yeah. World Series catch. This like, I'm like, this kid's got some game. She's not afraid of the ball. Not yet.

She hasn't gotten slapped in the head with it yet. So I remember that that's the problem. When she got bonked in the head of one of those things, that's when you start getting afraid of it. I remember I got crushed with a baseball in our backyard. I must have been either five or six years old. And I probably scared you. What do you was that?

Bloody knows everywhere. Like blood. gushing. I'm sure my mom wasn't thrilled at my dad, but I remember my dad not being too upset. Like that's at the level of upset or concern that I thought he should be. Right. Because his son is now bleeding profusely. And part of me is thinking like, well, okay, I did it. I never have to play baseball again because this tragedy happened.

Yeah. But the way my dad was just so casual about it, it's like this was almost expected. Like the time cops in Loki where my dad is like, no, this is part of the timeline for you being a baseball player. Right. And lo and behold, ended up playing. baseball through school? Well, at least one mark. As a boy into a man?

And if you, any time travel, you'll say, well, Mark Ellis does come on to be a professional player. That's probably where my dad got his wires crossed a little bit because there is a professional major league baseball player. And Mark Ellis, maybe he had a dream. Maybe he had a dream where it's like, Mark Ellis is going to be professional baseball player. So he's like, it doesn't matter if you just hit in the nose.

Trust me. It's all going to work out because I had a dream. There's a lot of famous Mark Ellis is out there. You got the former baseball player. You got the Australian politician that most Australians hate. and sometimes I get tweets about that. Do you really? Amed at me.

Yeah. Our buddy Kevin McCarthy gets the same thing too. He gets it all the time. All the time. And he just so funnily corrects people. I love how he was lost. And then injects a movie opinion about it. Because then, you know, the name Kevin McCarthy,

it might be a little more used than the name Mark Ellis, but not by much. And so there's multiples of us. Debra Messing went after our friend Kevin McCarthy. That is so funny, really? And he's like, Deborah, big fan. But just to let you know, I can't tell you. about that particular thing, but I can let you know. I just saw this in the theater, and I thought it was amazing.

Yeah, the way he corrects him, he's not necessarily saying he's not the person either. He's just, he's just, no, he does, though. I've seen him gently steer. He's normally, he's like wrong account or something, whatever. You might be right, but I just, I always, that poor guy gets it all of the time. And you know, he's just so positive and genuine, he loves interacting with people talking movies. And so when he gets that crap on his Twitter feed, it's just like, yeah, I think he's just

used to. He knows he probably has, it's almost like in Hulk where it's like zero days without an incident. You know, so he knows, he knows eventually. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gonna, here it comes. Well, because I told you, I think it was maybe on, on S-E-N live or, or something that I posted the clip from my special about me talking about pizza. Yeah. On like a Friday. And some woman quote tweeted it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And just started saying, well, I'd love to, you know, talk about pizza. but I'm a little more concerned with feeding the children of the world or like the oceans are drying up or like every, every trash you could have. We tore into that lady. Damn right.

We did. Yeah. Do your research. Right. Oh, so she thought it, she thought it was somebody else. I think she, because she's from Australia. And so I'm pretty sure. Oh, you don't know though.

Dude, come on. Do two and two. Like this Mark L's guy is not well liked in Australia. And it's not, for apparently for good reason. Yeah, maybe maybe so. But what I'm saying is it just, if she's going after you for that, yes, she should definitely do her reason. The tenor of people and the vitre of which they go after me when they think I'm the other Mark Ellis falls right in line with this. So I'm putting two and two together.

And also, every experience that I've had with Australians who actually know who this Mark Ellis is has been beyond delight. Right. They are, they are some of the best comedy audiences I've ever had my entire life. I've never been to Australia. But when they come to the States, they're not like us. No. They're not, they don't go on vacation. Americans go on vacation for a week somewhere, and we end up spending five days of it in the hotel watching Spectrevision.

Australians come here, and they're here for six months. Right. And they just barnstorm from town to town to town, living it up, going to comedy shows, high-fiving, crushing karaoke, having the time of their life. They write, we call it a vacation in America. They call it a holiday because it is nothing but celebration. I see. Well, you're not that Mark Ellis. You're this Mark Ellis, and you're here on the big thing show.

with me and this is our third episode of the big thing. If you saw it last week was our debut episode last Monday. And then we did a special episode for you guys this past Friday. Special bonus, which you shouldn't expect. You shouldn't always expect it. You should expect one. She'd expect one. And that's what you're going to be getting. Sometimes you'll pop in. The big thing show, however, will start to maneuver into about four episodes a week. But Mark Ellis will probably be on once a week. You should get A. Mark Ellis for every show. We should get the guy. Well, don't not get that. Not the guy from Australia. I definitely have him on.

We should have him on. You talk about ratings gold. Well, I tell you, and you know who's going to come on to be a guest on this show with you and I? I have a feeling of somebody from our past. Yes, already approved. Ready, confirmed. Okay. Well, let's play the game.

You love torture me with this. All right. Give me a hint. I need one hint. Someone from our past. Come on. From Schmo down or Schmo's no? Both.

Both. Bon Bon. She's come on. She'll be on. I mean, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, not fair to say she, she wants to come on, like, she'd come on tomorrow. She should probably get here now if I asked her to come over. Tiffany Smith. Nope. You're in there. I got it. Who you got? Okay. I had to do a fact check. I was like, wait, did Catherine, remember competing the Shmowdown? No. Katie Sackoff did. Yes. Yes. So Katie, Katie, I reached out. I was going to have Katie come on today and surprise you, but she's not in town. And she didn't want to. And I didn't want to. And I asked her for July. And she said that she's, uh, she said she'll be available in July. And I said, let's do it. So me, you and her, we're going to do a reunion.

Well, you didn't ask if I'd be available in July. You will. I'm free. Yeah. So she'll make the time. So she'll be on with that one. So that's kind of the point is that we're going to have guests on this show.

We're going to, we'll be able to do that. But then on the episodes that Mark's not on, we'll have other people throughout the, the Schmode universe, the Schmo's universe, people in general, like some guests and as we transition into another studio,

which eventually will happen. We'll even have some more guests. And we're not doing the, the schmobot on this show, we're not doing donations, we are just, oh, few, I know,

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If you're at a coffee shop or the airport, and people just don't have headphones. I don't like that. If I had all the money in the world, I would just see it and I wouldn't even get upset. I would just walk to the nearest store, buy them a pair of aeropause. It's like, here, you're annoying everybody else.

It's like, 50 bucks. What did I say? How did I qualify? I know if you had the money in the world. I know, but still, it's on the first show of this, you were, you were just ready to hand me $500 million, not because I did anything important. No, just to get me to stop doing stand-up.

That's how much you hate my jokes. You were willing to pay me five. $500 million. Just to stop. Just an Ellis, if you just, can I just make you disappear? I just want you to do peaceful stuff. That's all I want. Yeah, when you offer that, I was like, you know, he could hire a hitman like 50 bucks.

No, I don't want to do that. That's not nice to hit him. Who would you hire in our, in our community? And again, not for like a funny gag. Yeah. Who would you actually hire to murder someone? Oh, my God. This is on camera, man.

Dagnino. I'm sorry. Were you actually planning a hit? Yeah, Dagnyno, hands down. No. Hands down. He'd cover all of his tracks. Blaming on somebody else.

I don't think, no. Who? I just think he just wants that spotway just a little too much. Not as much thing. The way he dresses is very unique. It's very unique. It's very noticeable. Yeah, but that's...

He's going to wear a beard mask. Yeah, but he hides out in the open. That's what he does. You know who I'd hire? Who? If I was anybody else, I'd hire me. You hire you. Nobody.

Nobody's going to suspect. No, because you're too nice. Nobody's going to suspect me. It's true. But here's the thing is that I am, I'm nice and it goes both ways. Okay. Like, I'll help people move. Yeah.

I'll give you right to the airport. Right. But maybe that's, that's if you ask anything of me. You do have, maybe if you ask me about some sort of ulterior motive. Right. You might. Maybe if you ask me to set someone up. Maybe you ask me to double cross someone.

You better, you better hope that you never get yourself in trouble down the life. You're damning yourself right now. It's like, you imagine. This is like, this is like the. This is formally, if Inside Edition was still around, this is the footage they were using. The thing that happens to everybody, if you're around an officer of the law or you're in some sort of courtroom setting, you, which I have been over the years. You just instantly, your whole wife flashes in front of your eyes. And it's you watching it and saying, wait, wait, did I actually murder someone?

You've been in a state where it's like, wait, have I killed someone? It's like it's like when you go into the store or not even a store, if you're around somebody and somebody goes, hey, man, do you see my keys and you check your. Yeah. Yeah. I can take the guy's keys? Why am I checking my pockets to show them that I didn't do it? And that goes both ways too, because some things that I do well-know rim by my possession, when I was my brother's best man at his way.

I've been like five best men, and I've never once lost the ring. I'm five for five. Yeah. But when it's your job to hold the ring, until the ceremony? Terrifying. My hand did not leave. It looked like I was probably rubbing one out during the ceremony because I'm just, I did not leave the pocket.

No, you got to protect it all the time. I think everybody goes through that shit, for sure. It was like a little gopher was in my pocket. Just rummaging around in there. making sure that I'm all right. And just making sure the ring is in there. Yeah. I have done it myself.

And you're just grasping on to life onto those things. If I could go back and watch a video of it. I bet the priest it was a bit when they asked to present the ring, got the ring and then just saw how sweaty my palms more. It's just like, is this kid okay? You take your palm away and it's just like this like onto the giant like handprint on your pants. Yeah. On your pants.

Plus the typical wedding. You've been, you got hammered. the night before. You're sweating alcohol that morning. Hot church. Passed out by a fountain. Summertime. Yeah.

Oh, weddings. Love. You love weddings. Yeah. Big wedding guy. I think we got a few of them going to be coming up in 2022 because we were talking about that too, how it's, how it's like this boom. The economy is just kind of this big boom.

Because all the, I was talking to a friend recently, we have a mutual friend that has a made it. Divorce. Divorce. Divorce. No, no, no, no. But made a business. out of just weddings, photographer, weddings, and, and bar mitzvahs.

Business is shut down, like during a pandemic. Yeah. Shut down. Not a lot of people want to photograph of the drive-by birthday party. Right through the window or whatever, which ultimately thinks what he was doing. But he then, you know, now that business is booming again. Yeah. Yeah.

It's planning the weddings. It's like, and it just like spiked. And that's what's going to happen to everybody. If I give you a ceremony, one ceremony to attend, I'm going to give you, and it's the same level of friend. Would you rather go to their birthday party or their wedding? Depends on the friend. Depends on the friend.

Because there's some people who won't put in the same type of effort. For me, the big thing for a wedding is food. Yeah, the spread. So the same friend that I told you that I just was talking about, now divorced, but his wedding, his first wedding, some of the best food, I mean, the amount of food, like from different places that I just loved it. Like my favorite sushi place had a whole table. And then I went to the other side.

My favorite Italian place that I went to had a whole table. Like this was ridiculous. That's pretty well done. Yeah. And then my other friend, divorced. Food. Is that rate still at 50% or are we thinking it's ticking up to like the 70s or the 80s? My big thing with the divorce stuff is, even though I don't think the first couple I talked about today qualifies.

but I think getting married and I apologize to people that are married at a young age. And maybe you're going to, maybe you're going to do it. You know what you were doing. I just don't think getting married at 22, 23 years old is a smart thing. You just don't. In your personal experience, because you waited until what? I was in my, I was early 30s. Early 30s?

31, 32? Okay. 31. Yeah. And like, and I'm, and, and I'm, and, and I'm, wishing you luck. If you got married at 21 or 22, and there are tons of people that do it and are with the loves of their life,

and it works out. Stats aren't great. The stats are not great at that. I just wonder where it comes from because my brother and his lady are still together happily, and they were high school sweethearts, but they didn't get married right away. Right, right. Well, that's what I meant.

I'm not saying, not saying if you meet, if you. I think he was 27. Okay, that's a good age. So, but that's it. You gave it some, you gave it some test. in the real world. I'm talking 21, 22. When I see, like, a lot of the people get 21. I just think that was like how it was back in the olden days.

You got to get married at 21 and 22. Yeah, because you're going to be dead in five years. Yeah. My mother had me at like 25. Yeah. No way. Oh, it's nuts. What our parents did? 25. I think my mom was probably around the same age when she had my sister.

And it's just, it's like, look, my advice would be if you don't go to school, if you don't go to college, then maybe you can get married earlier if you're with the person that you think you want to marry. You need to work in the private sector for some period of time just to be out of school. Because school, it's sort of like you're living in a bias here. High school, college, graduate school. Be out in the real world for a little bit. Get your feet wet and then see if you're a sea monster.

And then figure out if this is still the person. Because school is just very different. School is training camp. But you discover yourself and other things that you look. Think about how different you were at 21 or 22 years old and the way that you saw the world. A bad example, but most people, yes. Well, most people, like 21, 22 years old, you just see the world differently. You look at what you're more, a lot of people are more selfish at 21, 22.

And you're not thinking about it's, uh, you, the goal as it should be is on you and what you're going to accomplish in your life at 21 or 22 years old or what you're going to be able to do. And it's like, that's where I went wrong. I don't know. I don't know. That's where I broke back. Yeah. 21, 22, I just, there was no chance in my life where I was. No way.

No, but you and I, our, our path was. No, both of us. We're going down this path where you need to test yourself in this career and see if you can flourish in this career. And you can't really even have a backup plan. With this particular walk of life, you really can't have anything to fall back on to because this thing is going to be such a trial by fire.

It's going to throw crap at you that if you have something to fall back on, probably going to do it. Yeah. Mark and I were talking about... And that life is, of course, being a hitman. That's right. Mark and I were talking about this before we started the show today. And I have been talking about you heard me on SEM live.

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I was the same way. I'm like, yeah, I get it. No, it like made me smell worse. Yeah. It's like it, it, the good, I think any natural, like, it goes, it goes faster than like the other deodorant, right? Like the other jodorant, probably, probably won't reek until, you know, bedtime. You know, you just, you got to apply it, but it's, but it's, it works. You have to use it for it to work is what you're saying.

Yeah, you got to use it, but it doesn't, it's a little, it's, it's, and the body wash. Yeah, it's, it's, it's addicting. Yeah, I mean, it's weird because like the classic deodorants we've been using, it seems like there's a lot of crap in there that's probably going to end up being the death of me. And I don't really want to be a guy who is at the funeral for himself. And people are remembering me, hopefully fondly. And they're like, yeah, it's just Mark's armpits. What got him?

Yeah, it's that right pit. Aluminum. He's got too much metal in his armpit. It's great. And I've been, as you know, you've been watching Sien Live. I've been raving about Native. And I love it. Prominably as paid in the bathroom.

It's really good. I mean, I clean my bathroom. When I clean my bathroom, I have the products that if I had a guest over, I want you to notice. Check out this fine cologne. Well, my wife was the one once she found out that they were doing the sunscreen, that she's like, get some.

And I was like, I was supposed to put it on all the time, especially out here in Southern California. You see all the, and we talked about it a little bit on goofball last week, but did you see all the hoopla going on with the New Indiana Jones? With one of the best savings ratings, in America. Banking with Capital One is the easiest decision in the history of decisions. Even easier

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So the big hoopla, and I don't need to get into the whole big thing again because I covered it pretty extensively on goofball last week. But it doesn't sound like a topic that you were goofing off about too much. It was not a goofing off topic, but it was like James Mangold, who I love. Yeah. I think he's a phenomenal director. He's Logan and Ford versus Ferrari are just caught Logan again the other night. Part of it. It's great.

It's really good. Do you ever see Ford versus? You like Ford versus Ford. Oh, yeah. That's where at the post-premier party, I was at a bar next to Harrison Ford, just to two of us. Well, what? No idea.

Ford versus Ferrari? Until after he had already left the bar. At Ford versus Ferrari? I'm there. Mark Fernandez is at the screening. And he's the one with a couple other people at our table that just gave me crap because we were one of the first ones that, you know how I am at a premiere. And then I want to be the first person to get to the ball.

And I get up to the bar. I happen to see a comedian buddy of mine, Ray Anderson. He's a big Van Halen fan. We start talking. We start chatting. And I see his eyes drift over a couple times, but I want to be a dick and break eye contact too much. I'm interested in what was going on in his life.

Gets me in my beer. And then I just, I turn around this way where I should have turned around this way. So I turn around this way. Harry Ford's right here. I turn around this way, walk back. And Fernandez is just laughing his hat. And I'm like, what, so he's like, you didn't see. He's like, Harrison Ford.

was standing right next to you. Oh, wow. Just the two of us. Just, and nobody else was around. Ships passing of the night. You are pretty clueless that way, though, sometimes. Like, someone could be right next to you and you, like, just. In his defense, he did not say hi to me.

That's fair. Because he thought I was the Australian Mark Ellis. Get out of the way. I don't like your politics. I don't have time to talk about pizza. Yeah. But anyway, so that... Yeah, what's the hoopla?

What's the... Is there controversy? No, no, no. The hoopla is the same stuff that I have been just ignoring. over the last couple of years. It's just that someone, someone tweeted out something about how the movie would be terrible because, you know,

Spielberg wasn't directing it and Kathleen Kennedy was involved and all that stuff. And just stuff that fans that are either, you're either, you're either skeptical or you don't, you have the right to tweet it. If you have the right to tweet it. If you think like, that to me, that to me, that particular tweet wasn't nasty.

It was, I don't think it's going to be that good. I don't think it's accurate. Yeah. But I think that it's, it's just, it's out there because like, but then I think Mangold rightfully kind of wrote back and said, look, we haven't made the movie yet. You don't, you don't know if it's going to be good or not. And then it just kind of caught fire because I'm like, he started going, like, responding to everybody. And then there's, there's certain people who just want to have the conversation with him. And there's other people who just as much.

Just want to get a rise and the world burn, right? And I just, and I, and I, this is. what I emphasized on the show the other day was, I don't understand the need for that. Like, you just sit back and make the movie. I'm down. I want to see what you're going to do. I don't think you need to go and start tweeting it. I think we all feel that way.

I think we all have fallen victim to that temptation as to like, I got these, I got these A-Hills on a T. And I'm just going to go. Definitely. Take it behind the woodshed for everybody to see. But, yeah, the thing is make your, make your art and let the art speak for itself. But I understand Mangled. Just being like, look, I need to get the cart before the horse here. Or I need to get the horse before the cart here a little bit just to say like, hey,

this would not have happened if people liked the Kingdom of the Crystal Skullmore or if that was a better movie. Because you have such a stink on Indiana Jones, on any new Indiana Jones adventure, because we haven't seen a good movie, in most people's opinion, we haven't seen a good movie since 1989. Right. Well, I think there is a pocket of the fans that felt that way. But I think there are also people who feel because of ever since Disney taking over in 2012.

Sure. And for some reason, Disney coming in completely washed away everything else in their mind that Kathleen Kennedy did produce. That's fantastic. She produced Raiders at a Lost Ark. Right. That's a pretty good movie. That's what people are. I'm told.

People like, oh, Kathleen Kennedy's involved. She was involved in the other ones. Right. It's like so, I mean. Right. So it's like that's. But either way, my bigger thing wasn't necessarily to get into any of that because I had, Because there is an argument to say, like, well, as fans, we can say, like,

because if you were and I were on a video back in the day and we said, like, look, there's an announcement that came out that a New Indiana Jones movie, I don't know, I've been happy with a lot of the stuff that's been coming out of Lucasfilm lately. Spielberg's not directing this movie. Not for me. It's fair to say. We have the right to say it, but I would like to think that if James Mangel was like, hey, let me call into the Shmo's No Show and talk to you guys about this.

Absolutely. We would say that. And I don't think that we would, that we would just kiss his rings. No. I think we could ask him some tough questions. You'd ask the questions, but I think that it gets into,

like that particular exchange was it anyway. So the whole thing. It's also just the fallacy of Twitter is that you have these characters to, this amount to express this giant thought about a movie. Right. Which is, which is in itself just an albatross of a bear trap. Jumping into more so what I want to cover with this today was,

is Indiana Jones in general. Sure. Because I guess the conference, because I know you are an optimist when it comes to this stuff. And I still, I rewatch Crystal Skull for the Rotten Tomato show. And I do not hate that movie. There are certain parts that bother me tremendously.

Yeah. But I, where you and I have just a disagreement where we've drawn a line of the sand is whether Harrison Ford was actually playing the role or not. Yeah. Yeah. And, but I also love the alien angle to it because that was how I felt about, that's how me, not living through the 50s,

looks back on the 50s and it's like there was a lot of that paranoia. And it's Stephen Spielberg. And there's aliens and it's like he's pretty good at making those kind of movies too. And so I didn't hate that there was that involvement. If we're going to give all this credibility to all the stuff in the Bible that that's real, we can't have visitors come down. I don't mind that part of that. We got a night who's been alive for 800 years, who's so old Christian, he's blue.

No, no. The poor guy hasn't seen a doctor in seven. 100 years. You walk into there and sure there's a lot of grails. There's also a lot of skin mags. There's a lot of wopper wrappers in the corner. How many Uber Eats people died trying to get that man a meal? And we as audiences are like, oh, this how it works.

And as soon as we see aliens, wait, that's not Indiana Jones. Like, come on. You have choosing wisely. Is my sister still alive? We don't know, Jack. Can you get a letter to mother? Oh, you didn't hear? She died 600 years.

Anyway, so, but the movie itself, Crystal Skull, you know, I, we, when was the last time you saw it? That's just going to say, do you remember who we, let's see, trivia question for you, who do we see it with? Because we saw it in the theater, wasn't a screening. We saw it in the theater together. We had just, we were still reviewing movies, not even on YouTube. Martini Peritory.

No. Catherine Reitman. No. You're right, it was a woman. Yeah, no, I... You're not going to get it. Yes, I am. All right.

Take it easy. We went and we saw it. Because I remember us walking out of the grove and you're not being happy right away, but you said that you wanted to... Because we were walking to film the review, which is why I thought it was martini. And you're like, I'm not going to crush it. I'm not going to crush it out of respect. But I remember you're not being happy.

I think I did crush it in the review. I think you're thinking about it. Once we start... No, no, I remember you saying that. Yeah. Once you and I start going... Was it for that because I... Who was it?

It was my wife. She was not my wife at the time, though. She was my girlfriend. Really? Yeah. Oh, don't show her this did. She was the three of us. She probably would remember anyway.

But we went and I said, I didn't like that movie. And it was like this was, it was. Really? It was, I said, it's too damn cheesy. The guy's swinging around, like, shy of the booths swinging around in the trees with the monkeys. And I think that was really disappointing. And I remember you trying to convince yourself, I liked it. And then he was like, it was like, it.

looked like. But right away, I acknowledge freely that the swinging, that the monkey tree, nearly ruined the entire movie. And the sword fighting, nearly ruined the movie. See, that, that goes back to the question you just asked me if one was a little, how many times have you seen it? I had seen it one time and I was with you and my wife back. I'd never revisited it because I disliked it so much. And then I started rewashed, I think it was on Netflix recently. And I started watching the beginning. And it was, it was, it reassessed to me. that problem that I had of Harrison Ford just like, he's just doing a thing. He wasn't being Indiana Jones.

Like he jumps into that car with the Russians. You hated this scene from the trailer. I hated it. I remember you having concerns about the movie based on that scene from the trailer. Leaps in, and I've done this before and I'll do it again. He leaps in the guys, yeah. Oh, damn, closer than I thought or whatever he says. Then he punches them.

And it's like, or farther than that, whatever the hell he said. And then like that kind of stuff. It was just, it was too gimmicky, and it was Spielberg, I think, kind of conceding to Lucas inside of this whole thing. And I'm going to watch it again. I am going to watch it because I just don't see that being so much more appallingly gimmicky than, like, for instance, in Last Crusade, a scene that I still find really funny, where the little librarian is stamping. And at the same time, Indiana Jones is trying to, and it's super loud. And the guy thinks it's a stamp. It's like, it's just a funny scene.

Yes. Yes, but I think that the difference is the matter of a script, B, how you're directing and music and tone and all that and the way that it's pieced together because you can do it in a way that comes off really cheeser. There are little bits. The bits are one thing, overall tone, because that stamping thing you're talking about,

that wasn't the overall tone of that entire film. There's bits throughout Last Crusade with him and his dad and the funny things, and the sleeping with the same woman and like, oh, she talks in her sleep, all that,

all that's, it's funny, and there are bits throughout it. And those, those work better, which I'm not disagree. I'm not saying, King of the Crucials,

that was a great movie. But the other issue, the more issue that I have with that movie is in the larger context of what it means for Indiana Jones canon, simply because now we're stuck with mutt. Right. Because I didn't hate him in that movie,

but now he didn't necessarily, yeah, I wasn't necessarily begging for him to be in the movie, in the first place. Right. Because I felt like Indiana Jones could have pulled this off just fine without him.

But, you know, get Karen Allen back and have them going to adventure. And then that's it. We don't need this. Hey, millennials, look,

this movie's for you too. I think what they were trying to do with that movie back then because that was, what, 2008? Mm-hmm. And they tried, they were trying,

because Shailaboof at that point was coming up to be like, you know, the big movie star, whatever he was. And they were going to basically transition the franchise to give it to much.

That's what it felt like it felt like a hand on. That's what the rumors were. And then when they realized that, as Christian Slater say, went over like a fart in a car, they bailed on that plan as they should have. But because of all that, because of the tone, because Harrison Ford is 80 years old or whatever he is, people are thinking right away that,

well, this can't be good this next movie. I couldn't disagree more. James Mangold has been turned out. And I said this the other day. And I, and argue with me if you want. But has Mangold, Mangold the last couple of movies has had a better filmography and his last three movies or maybe even four than Spielberg has. Okay. It's, and I'm not talking bodywork.

You're not comparing those two. Logan and Ford v. Ferrari, I would put up there with just about anybody's last 10 years. Yeah. See you later. Ready Player 1. That's that you're very lost to Logan or whatever it was. And then Bridge of Spies. Good movie, but not, doesn't compare to, I like Ford versus Freud. He did the Wolverine.

He did 310 to Yuma. Yeah, he's in 2007. He'd walked the wine in 2005. Yeah, the guy's got some good. He's got some really good director. Got some good stuff going to. He's a really good director. And he's, and he loves Raiders.

And this isn't supposed to be a comparison between him and Spielberg, because Spielberg obviously has to sign off because he's producing the movie and everything too. And I'm, but you could also. also feel the conflict, I think, even as a fan, I hesitate to even call myself a fan of that movie, but I think I liked it more than I remembered, or I can appreciate it more. But you can still feel that you can see where it's George Lucas and Steven Spielberg, and it's sort of Spielberg just like saying, all right. Yeah. It's like, if I came to you and I'm like, dude, just please, just let me do

a Shmowdown exhibition that is just Wayne's World too. Right. And if I, if I begged you, enough as your friend you'd be like all right fine we'll do it right and you're hosting with me you're not going to love every second of hosting it because you're like what are we doing this more but we'll put in the effort but you're going to give a game effort because you care about and this and and all the stuff where Spielberg was supposed to direct

a Star Wars movie never did it and they're able to do it together and work together again they're buddies and they did everything they're supposed to do and George I don't can we do it might have a gopher pop up yeah you know what George will have the gopher pop up that's fine and and and it is what they collaborate they did I just think that the strategy. For me, the prequels, the Star Wars prequels, age better when you watch them now

in comparison of what you used to look at them as. Because if you watch them as kids' movies, right, they really play to children. Like, and in a, and, and the stories are really good, and they hold up, Indiana Jones doesn't hold up for children. It's just not a children's thing. Like, you can watch those prequels, you can watch for kids. Like, I can't, like, really, like, is a lost arc. Like, Indiana Jones shoots a guy in the middle of the street. The monkey brains, it's not, it's not meant for kids. It's just not meant for children.

Well, it's Temple of Duma. Nazis. All three of them are not meant for kids. Not young children, you know, like when you can, not 12, 13 years old. I saw Raiders of Lost Arc when I was like, six years old. My dad shouldn't have taken me to see that movie. Oh, I was probably, I was probably nine or ten. I was like six years old when I saw that movie.

And it's still, it's probably, it's, if I ever do that freaking list I was telling you about that I want to do of my 100, favorite movies of all time. That would easily make it into it. I thought you did that. No, I was going to, though. You started. I started. But that was, that was my, that, that's in there. I mean, I love that movie. Raiders of the Lost Dark. Way more than Last Crusoe. I don't know about that. But yeah, Raiders of the Lost Dark is definitely my top 100 favorite movies of all time. And I, I probably put it in my top 20. But the other thing you have to take into consideration, even as a Harrison Ford defender in, it came to the Crystal Skull is around that time, it sort of seemed like Harrison Ford was just getting done

with acting. He just didn't really, he was still in, he was in like firewall and, and the Hollywood homicide and stuff like that. And it wasn't really until not the Force Awakens for the first time, but when I saw him as Branch Ricky in 42, the Jackie Robinson movie, he cared about that. He cared about playing that character in a way that I don't think you saw with Hollywood homicide. He cared about playing Han Solo again. And Force Awakens, yes, he did. And we started to see him start to embrace the fact

of who he is and people appreciate him for who he is. And so I think that that same tender love and care approach to honoring the legacy of this character is going to factor in with Indiana Jones. I do too. And I think that this is, I think that I mean, Spielberg, obviously

Spielberg, but I would also say that I would love to hear the overall conversation what was going on because I don't think he was I just don't think he was locked into playing him that time I just don't but this time I think he will be and I think that Mangold's going to get that out of him the same way

that Mangold got that amazing performance out of Hugh Jackman who's usually locked into all of his stuff but I think that do you see any of the leaked photos that came out of the movie Indiana Jones? Yeah no there's a Nazi train

good yeah it's great yeah great but But the question is, at what point in, now, are they deaging him, are going back into it? Or does he discover Nazis in 1950 or 1960? We still don't know what the plot is. I don't know. Because there's been all the speculation that it's going to be maybe flashbacks and there's younger Indiana Jones playing.

That's what I always hoped. Where it's like the beginning of Last Crusade, which is great. Yeah. But I don't know. And at this point, especially at this point in my career, I don't care to know. Right. Same. I'll see whatever the trailer tells me.

I... Because I will watch the trailer. Yeah. But I just don't care about, like, doing the deep dive into, oh, this person's cast. So that means that this is going to happen. And then this is going to do that. Same with me.

It's like, I'm, I'm just, I am just very excited for the movie. And I, I would be, it's funny. I think, and it's so weird to say this like years later, but I would be more skeptical if Luke was, if Spielberg was directing. Not because I don't think Spielberg is still a great director. I do. I would just be like, okay, the last, I liked Ready Player 1. And there's a lot of people who didn't.

I liked it. I thought there was some stuff sometimes. I think his bigger things don't hit the way that they used to, right? And Mangold. Princess Vives is pretty good. It was good. I think when it comes to those movies, that's the post, when it comes to movies like that, he's spill where he still got it.

I just think the big blockbuster movies for what they are now, I don't know. I just, I haven't really latched on the way that I used to end because I was skeptical inside of the kind of the cheese of the last one. But I think that Mangold is just on fire right now. People think, like, how old do you think Mangold is? Do you know? Because I didn't know this until looking it up. He didn't seem that old to me when I was, when I sat across from him at when we were doing

the Ford v. Ferrari thing. So I think he's probably, I'm going to say he's 51. 58, which is, but still, you're in the, you're in the, you're, You're in the recent. He is. But that's the other reason. It's like, it's something like,

10 years younger than my dad, it's like, stay off the internet, dude. Don't, don't bother. I just, I would be fine if Spielberg was directing it. I am not opposed to injecting new blood into a franchise like this at all. I think it could use it.

But with Spielberg, he's the same kind of guy like Harrison Ford that I trust to be like, have that comedian mindset where your last set didn't go as well as you wanted. And so now you have that revenge set. I agree. Because I think that's why Harrison Ford wants to do this movie.

Yeah, because it's like, I think he wants to just drop the mic or the fedora, so to speak, and just be like, hey, I'm still this guy. Watch. I agree with that. And I also will backtrack a little bit that if it was like, okay, look, well, and again, nothing against JJ Abrams. A lot of things that he could.

But like, JJ's directing Indiana Jones. I don't know. I wouldn't be pumped about that. And I would rather, I would rather Spielberg do it at that point. But there's something about Mangold. Mangold's got an edge. And Mangold has like, Four versus Ferrari. is not talked about enough.

That movie is phenomenal. Like, it is phenomenal. There's good, there's good little comedic moments in that, too. Absolutely. I won in an Indiana Jones movie. Because I like when JJ, a lot of times when JJ does comedy,

I think it works. I think he's a funny guy. And I think that it pays off for the most part in his movies. And so I think that's, I would trust him with the comedic angles of Indiana Jones, but I think Mangold can pull that stuff off too.

I think he can definitely pull it off. And I think, think that I do want to see more of that. Like there was more of the edge that was enraiders of the Lost Arc. What? You know, what? No, you remember? You're going to know where I'm going with this.

Remember when we both lived on Blackburn? Yes. And I came up to you one time and I'm like, because I just moved there. Yeah. And I was like, hey, dude, you know who was on the street? I was like, the guy that played the Nazi. And you cut me off. And you're like, no, I know exactly what you're talking about.

He looks like that guy. He's not that guy. The guy who looked exactly like the Nazi. In the truck. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Who gets it. No, the guy who gets his face melted to the end. And he was the guy that worked at the gym. And I was like, no. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I was like, Christian, the guy lives on our street.

And you're like, because you can see the look. You're like, Ellis only talking about one guy. He's like, I know who you think it is. It's not that guy. But I agree with you. For a line. Yes. Yeah, that guy.

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Not yet, but I'm going back. I'll tell you that. I'm definitely going back to Hawaii. I sound like Jack and lost. I'm going back. Got to go back. Next time I'm telling you, man, I want to spend like, I want to spend like a month in Maui. You actually have that ability to stay a month?

But your family would leave you. Because you could get some sort of production job based on your background with The Bachelor doing one of these, like, Temptation Islands. It shows that film there. Maybe he's just to work doing that. That's not a, that's not. But however, however, there's two ways to potentially do it for Shmodeo. To go to Hawaii? Yes.

For a month. Not for a month. Okay. But to go in general. The first is that next season potentially offering the winner, winning faction, a trip to Maui. Right. And then you and I just tag along? We would record the factions for content.

So it would be part of the gig. We'd have to go. So that's the first part. The second part, Hey, Adam Sandley does it all the time. We can do it. The second one, what the hell was it? Walking around the island with my stupid orange suit,

just asking random people. That's it. What was, I had another way to get to Hawaii. In the movie, the descendants. Yeah. Just ask Hawaii questions. Anyway, did you finish me or? I forgot what you,

finished the whole thing. What? Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, okay, because I knew there was some of the now we spoiled that whole thing on the first episode of this. He's coming out of us. What are you going to do?

What about hacks? We watched a hacks yet? No, heard about it, heard great things. Our boy Adam Ray shows up in it for a sec. That's what you said last week, but he wasn't in it, but he wasn't in the one you thought he was in. I'm sorry, Peaches. Is that why you watched the show?

Did you watch it on a wing and a prayer that Adam Ray is going to show up? Hey, well, you know, you pitch somebody that they're going to be in there. He, I saw an Instagram thing that he did, and it's him interacting with what's her face from Mera Vista? You talk about He-Man? No. No, I'm talking about. No, he's not in He-Man.

He-Man, or he might be. He's definitely in Hacks. Yeah, I know. But you said He-Man. What are you talking about? Last week, you said, you asked me if I've seen hacks. Yes. And I said, no, but our boy, Adam, Ray.

I watched an episode. I didn't see him in it. No, no. Then you just started talking about him. That's not what I said. It's exactly how you said. No, it's not true. What I said was, that's not true.

seen hacks, but I've heard tremendous things about it. It's really, I watched the first episode, and I thought it was pretty good. Okay. Well, that was it. That was the last time. I just don't watch shows about stand-up, I think, is my blanket rule. I don't blame you on that. It's hard.

I did like, I did like, I'm dying up here? Yes. Yeah. I didn't like that show a lot. That, to me, was the most pure, like, even though it took place in, like, the 70s. Like, it's still, it still, to me was the most. pure stand-up comedy show I had seen. It was very well done.

The production values of it and all that stuff is great. It just, like there's that movie that Keegan Michael Key did, where it's like an improv troupe and it's just about them. Being an improv trip in New York City, but then there's a Saturday Night Live, like show. And it might be coming up or coming next to it. I can't remember what the name of the movie is,

but Mike Brubigley is in it. And then there's some infighting. There's some jealousy because a couple of them get called up to the show. And I was watching it, and I'm like, this is just, this is the kind of crap that I've seen that I've lived through. And so I understand the appeal to a mass audience, but just for me in particular, I wouldn't be transported to somewhere else that is not a threat to be my life, which is probably why

I gravitate towards the Star Wars is in the Indiana Joneses of the world. And horror movies. And horror movies, right. There's a, I like to say, knock on wood, there's a pretty good chance. I'm going to go to bed tonight and not get possessed by a demon. I did finish conjure. Do you finish it? I did not.

What happened? He just gave up on it? What happened? Yeah. The Phoenix Suns swept. Oh, okay. And we're awaiting Chris Paul returning. Okay. The Clippers were in a deadlock series with the jazz.

As were, surprisingly, the Hawks and the 76ers. You found somewhere to watch Loki in between? Yeah, I had an hour. How much left of the movie do you have? I don't know. They sent me the nice box from Loki, and I'm like, I'll give it a shot. Fair. I finished it.

And it was... I don't want to be. a box from the conjuring people, by the way. You can keep whatever, whatever you put in that box, you can keep it. I liked it. It definitely isn't. It's probably, that's what I've heard. It's like it's good, but it's just not. There's definitely some, some things that are, like, it gets a little silly at the end, but overall, I thought the movie was fine. I feel like that's a lot of those movies, unfortunately, is based on a true story means the first five minutes are pretty true. Things, things happen that, you know, like they were there, but we don't know exactly, but there's some good moments.

We saw them walk into a house. There was a house on a farm, that's true. And we think you turned on the sink at one point. Yeah. And there was a cat. It's always a cat. But the Warren's, you know, it's almost as if they were like, they almost turned her into like a superhero, you know?

Her ability that she has and something. She could have fit into like, what's the one? Insidious? No, what's the freaking, dude, this is why I can't be in, Unbreakable. It's almost like she could be in the inbreakable movies. Like with... Oh, she's got like that level of psychic ability.

Yeah. And it's like the things that she's able to do. And it's like, you could... And I said this last time with you is that you can feel James Wan missing. It wasn't that. It was bad. I like, I enjoyed watching the movie.

I mean, I went back, I went out of my way to say, I really want to finish this movie because I want to see how it ends. And I was, and I think their dynamic is so good between the two of them. But it didn't, it didn't have that overall the same intrigue that the first two had, but still enjoyable.

Humans are very adaptable. But if I, I had that power that that Warren has yeah be tough to enjoy your life how could you because like they just walk into a room everybody's having a good time you're like oh I sent something I got to leave right well did you so you didn't get to the part where she helped they they investigate the other murder no I don't know they're talking to the old guy in the basement yeah I don't know that was he's got he's got a lot of cool artifacts yeah I don't want to spoil it for you but there's something that happens you know that she's got it she's got to help another investigation so she's

able to tune into it and she basically Oh right, there's the other murders and then and then you see the whole thing though, you see the whole thing of how she's able to do it but she's just I'm like if this was a real if this really this one was able to do like why isn't she out solving every crime? They just should have leaned into it more that scene where we haven't seen it, it's not given anything away where the warrants are

visiting this old retired priest who went through some similar stuff and he takes him down into his basement where he's got all of this devil artifactory that he collected over the years and they're like why do you have this stuff here? Why do you just burn? He was like, well, it's safer here than it is out there. He should have just looked at the camera and been like, huh?

It's safer here so we can explain the movie. Don't keep it in your house. Don't keep it in your house. It's the same thing we always used to say about. Don't keep it in your house. What was that? Was it a paranormal activity? It's like, why are you in that house?

Get out of the house. Just get out of the house. But now with the, you know, back in our day, it was simple, Christian. Yeah. Your house was haunted. You move, Dunzo. Now the demon follows you. Now the demon follows you.

I know. The demon follows you. The demon has become mobile. How many of those conjuring movies? Not conjuring. Paranormal movies have they done? I want to say six. Let's go through them.

So you got the first three. And then you had the ghost dimension was one. You had the, the, the, uh, I think there's five, actually. I don't remember. I forgot. Like, that's the other thing. It's like, like, this is what I do like about the conjuring is that it's just like another adventure in the Warren's life that it doesn't, even though it kind of connects

with Annabelle and all that. Like, if you don't have to really. tune in to know what's going on. Paranormal to Toby's been doing this and now he's doing that. It connects to the witches and it's like, ah, you lost me at fans in the house. No, the first three that you can just put them on any time and just watch 10 minutes of it, get a good jump scare. That's it. Go about your day.

Have you seen hereditary, right? No. I never saw it. I think you would get into hereditary, but what's the dude's name? Uh, uh, uh, uh, damn it. It's, it's A-A. I, I know the guys are initials. Arne Anderson.

That's the guy from The Conjuring. No. Arne. No, it's not a wrestler. It's like Ansel something. God, you guys are lighting up the chat right now. No, it's not Ansel Elgord. It's an actor.

Anyway, this guy, as he did, mid-Somar. Okay. Have you seen that? Have you heard of it? I've heard of it. Yeah, I've never seen either. Dude, you would hate that movie so much.

I kind of want that to be some sort of tear on SCN Live. If we get to a certain amount of, Christian's got to watch this, like the thing. Audience would never do it because I was supposed to watch the thing a year ago because we hit enough subscribers on Twitch. Yeah. Yeah, and you're blaming me. No, I know.

For not finishing a contrary movie, which I at least started. The thing is over here somewhere. That I will say this and people don't understand. What the hell was that? What that was. Toby's mad. People don't understand. I have pitched like nights with my wife.

She's like, let's watch an only one. What about the thing? Because in my head, I'm saying to myself, how great would it be? Especially if like on this show, we were really. it's like the big the title reveal is the thing like the review yeah am i i be great was we can review the whole thing people will love it but she's she's it she don't are you arey aster is the guy's name okay are you asking the thing in the right way you want to watch the thing god you're you're talking to your wife yes her russell yes and i don't think you know it's just you know

she he's america's leading man Yeah, I know. You lead with Kurt Russell and you can, you got her. Well, that's how it started. And a dog. But that's how it started. We'll go back into, have conversations and we'll go, we'll lead with actors. I'm like, okay, let's go through a filmography of somebody.

And we brought up like Michael Douglas. We watched a couple of his. And then she's like, all right, what about Kurt Russell? And then I said, the thing. She don't want to watch. Did you get too jumpy? Because you shouldn't start your Kurt Russell. The thing?

Doing with the thing. No, probably not. I went with Captain Ron. Start with that one. Maybe not only Captain Ryan. You guys have been in a lot of movies. I wouldn't, I wouldn't recommend escape from New York or L.A. to start. What would be a good start of Kurt Russell movie?

Just to introduce them. Miracle would be good. Yes, but this is a different. You're going to go to Big Trouble and Little China. 100%. Or overboard. Yeah, overboard's probably the one I'd go for with my wife. Yeah.

But, you know, we did start watching the day. She's like, she finally, like, one that I've been pitching forever to watch again with her. And she's like, nah, because we watched lethal weapon. We watched Die Hard again. and watched these movies. And I had kept pitching. I was like, what about Beverly Hills Com?

Because it's one of my favorites. Yeah, she'd love it. And then she's finally, she said, she's passed on it. She said, I'll watch Beverly Hills Com.

I go, sold, let's do it. So we watched, we watched about 45 minutes of it, and then we went to sleep. And last night, I'm like,

I'm like, let's finish it up. And she goes, nah, I was bored by it. I'm like, oh, man, killed me. I think she'd like two.

Two is better. Two is better than one? Yeah. You're a fucking lunatic. Tony Scott, man. Martin Brest. Martin Brest is good. That first movie.

Tony Scott is Tony Scott. The first movie is Eddie Murphy at his prime. I disagree. Oh, my God. I think he's entering his prime, and he's at his apex in Beverly Hills Cop 2. Get the fucking out of serious. Steals the house. It's just poetry.

But yeah, but you don't get that without all the shenanigans that were built of what Axel Foley does in the first one. Here's a here. Okay. Then why is Empire Strikes Back better than a New Hope? because it's a better crafted film. That's my argument for Beverly Hillscop too. And you're throwing up, but it's a foundation. Better dialogue.

This is everything that Beverly Hillscopto is. And Wayne's World 2. And Naked Gun 2 and a half. Very few comedy sequels can do this. You know, there wasn't many things that you could say to make you want to cancel this show after three episodes. But I think you just said. Really, Beverly Hillscop2 did it. I need to rewatch it.

I need to rewatch it. I do need to rewatch it. Oh, it's so good. Right from the start. You get that. I do like Ronnie Cox is a good guy better than a bad guy. I don't know, man. Dick Jones is a great great.

He's a great bad guy. That's not what I mean, though. I just mean that he's a likable guy. He's rootable. He's rootable. So, like, when he, it's such how good of an actor he was. Like, when he does, when he, when he did that role in Beverly Hills cop, you're like, yeah, he's like, that's an authority figure. You can see him being somebody's dad and you like him.

But he is a great Dick Jones, but not only Dick Jones, total recall. he is a bad guy in total recall i think he probably i bet you he played a bad guy more than he did a good probably but it's like it wasn't it copenhagen was that his name in total recall oh you know better than me that's pretty sure this my my favorite line in total recall though is two weeks not two weeks when when he benny benny turns on him the cab driver and then he kills benny with the drill hey benny screw you oh that's good this is the best hey benny you know you can you can take the Arnold out of Earth, but you can't take the Earth out of Arnold. I got away from me.

Yeah, that's right. It was there for a second. The thing is, it's like the guy's on Mars, but he's still just, he's still being Arnold. That movie is such a mind fuck, too. I love that it's something. Total Reco is phenomenal. Get ready for a surprise. Oh, it's so good.

And it's like that the way that they set that up, it's almost like that, well, there was Alice in Wonderland. I try to watch Labyrinth with the nine-year-old the other day, by the way. And she won't mind. Calculated risk. It's not that she didn't like the movie. She's the three and a half year old isn't scared of shit. Right.

Well, I was creeped out when I was little and the goblins were bouncing around. But she was, she was the one. She read it about it in her magazine, so she wanted to see it. And she wound up bailing on it. That's disappointing. Yeah. I don't know. I dare say you might have missed your window with her for a labyrinth.

Because I saw a labyrinth when I was like seven or eight, I think. I saw it when I was, it came out in 86. But I loved it. Maybe I was nine. I was nine. But like, nothing in labyrinth scared me necessarily. But you were talking to a guy who saw the exorcist when I was like five. Yes.

So the kids are different these days, man. She gets, she gets creeped out of like Ursula. And she just, but I'm telling you the little. Oh, and this was a story that I've told that you'll love because you know how much I raved about Sean the sheep. Oh, yeah. I remember that. Yeah.

So, and I took her to see it. And the other day, the three and a half year old finally saw it after a big argument with my wife and the nine-year-old who were convinced that she was going to be bored. It was like you watching a Bill Burset. She was losing it. Really? Just cracking. You could stand in the kitchen and just hear her like, you're right here. And she's laughing at every single thing that happened.

It's great. Sound of laughter never fails. Not for kids. I could, no, for old people too. Oh, people. I still remember Thanksgiving. I can't remember which year it was. Me and my grandma, my two grandmas and my mom were all in the kitchen playing Scrabble.

I was like the only man of the family that was really like hardcore competitive with Scrabble. Man, we'd have dog fights, trash talking. And then the other room, everybody else decided to put on there, something about Mary. The sounds my grandfather was making, we thought he was dying. We thought he was like having a stroke. He was laughing so hard. We went out to check and made sure everything's okay. It's the scene where he's trying to resuscitate the dog.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's just losing it. And it was just, oh, just like a warm blanket. That's the best. I remember the, well, one movie that I definitely remember my dad laughing his ass off when we saw Weekend of Bernie's together. Yep, yep. And the scene when they have Bernie tied to the boat.

Yeah. And he's banging off the side of the thing. Don, don't. And my dad, like, just losing it. And I was like, you know, there are certain moments he could just remember. or, you know, whoever, your mom, your dad, or just, like, laughing and that, that tied into it. And the other one, speaking of my oldest, when we took her to see, we took her to a screening,

you were, you were there, too, with the Lego Batman. Oh, right. She was loving it. So there's a scene in Lego Batman when, when he's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And she just was, like, I never heard her laugh. No, she was digging it. I was right there with her. Yeah, it was really funny.

Can you name? Yes. Classic Shmo's No History. Yes, please. What is my favorite scene in Labyrinth? Your favorite, oh, I know you're seeing easily. Huggles taking a piss. Yeah.

Just why? Yeah. Why? Yeah. Why? And my brother and I have a theory that that's the one day that the Henson Company, everybody just took off. And they let George Lucas direct a day. Yeah.

And the George Luka said, he's like, I want to see the Muppet. Taking a Piss. Yeah. And George, you just want him to go off camera? I want to see the stream. of piss come out of them up. Why do we have to see the stream of piss come out of the...

Especially Jennifer Conno's he didn't want to see the... Yeah, and it's not a quick cutaway. It's just like, hoggle's draining the hoggle. It's like a fountain. What was the movie that we were talking about that led us into all this conversation? Because the one of whether or not...

The thing? No, it wasn't the thing. Shoot, I was almost there where we had that conversation of whether or not it was real or not and... The Conjuring? Shoot, but it was, but I was going back into Alice, the reason I got into Labyrinth, because both Labyrinth and Alice in Wunderland. Oh, you got a whole thing with that movie.

It has that thing where you're like, you don't know if it was real or not. Right? Oh, that total recall. That's where, that's where we can do. So with Alice in Wonderland and Labyrinth, same things. You don't, because my daughter asked me,

she's like, was that a dream? Like, you know, does she wind up finding out that it's an all a dream? And it's like, well, you can think that it is, but then, Ludo and everybody shows up at the end. Ludo, friend. Oh, yeah, with Labyrinth. Was the dog's name?

Sir Dynumis was the fox. What was the dog's name? Sir Dymus was, I know what the dog's name was. It sounds right. Great name for a cinematic dog. Yeah, so, but either way. And Allison Wonderland, she wakes up and she's been dreaming under the tree. So you think that.

Same thing with Wizard of Oz. Yes, right. Wizard of Oz. So total recall. though it's kind of the same thing because when Total Recall, when he shows up to the, to the implant place, he gives the exact same adventure that he's about to have to the people.

And then when they ask what girl he wants to meet and kind of have the adventure with, it's the same girl that we want Marlina, it's the same girl that we wind up meeting. So even at the end of it, you're like, well, am I going to wake up? It's like you still don't ever really get a clear-cut answer. Those are the type of movie sometimes when they're like,

well, we'll leave you thinking. Because a lot of times I don't like that, well, you figure it out. I hate those type ending normally. Sure. I like the idea of, I like the inception. Like when inception, that thing's moving around, it's like, did it land in those types of endings I like. It's a fine line. Yeah.

That's the genius of the Wizard of Oz to me, though. Yeah. Is that everybody's had those dreams about somebody in your real life that are so intense. And they did something to cross you. Right. So intrusive and so evil and deceitful that you wake up pissed off of that person. Right, of course. Dorothy wakes up, and do you think she's going to treat whoever in the town who was the wicked witch of the West?

Just like, oh, hey, hey, good to see you. Miss Galtor, whatever the hell her name is. It's like, no, I hate that person. She hated her. Because one time I had a dream that she threw fire at my scarecrow friend. Right. And I think it all added up because she was a miserable rat anyway. Wasn't?

No, it wasn't. Who played Mrs. Deagle in the Gremlins? It's definitely somebody who was. Diggo, deagle. I watched that recently, not too long ago. It wasn't Carol Burnett, was it? It was a Carol Burnett type actress, for sure. While you try to figure that out,

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You made it dirty by saying that. If I had just said I want to mow her lawn, it would have been worse. Well, it depends if you would have barked afterwards. Polly Holiday goes down. She lives down the street. Yeah. Nice, sold lady. And I would like to go mow her lawn.

Can you say, I want to mow her and then bark afterwards? I am not going to do that for you. I know, I know you in sound bites. I want to mow her lawn. I want to mow her to serve me a nice class to lemonade immediately afterwards. And I want to put her in a chair and slint and throw out of a lawn. window. Mark certainly does spend a lot of time mowing the lawns of Deagle, Teagle. The holidays, Deagle, deagle. That movie. It's another one I

watched recently. I, I just realized how much I just love the 80s. I love 80s movies. I watched Goonies recently. It's great. There's a reason why most times in the Shmodeon competitors spin away from decades is because of how much crap is in a decade that we just forget when we put on our rose-tinted glasses. Because I'd feel the same way about those movies that you do to some degree. But there was a lot of bad movies. Oh, totally. Absolutely. And the music, when people are like, I love 80s music. No, you don't. Are you sure you want to make that statement? The music in about last night is just so 80s.

I mean, it's just like everything about it. Like it's like a St. Elmo's Fire level. Kind of, but just it's like. St. Almost Fire has a rocking saxophone. It does. There's, there's some crazy sax going on. Sacks and sex in about last night. How about some lawn mowing? There's a lot of lawn mowing going on. But, yeah, man, I don't know. I've been watching a lot of 80s movies, and I just, every time I go to try to dive into something new,

I don't know what it is. I'm becoming my, I'm becoming my parents. Like, I'm just getting to a point with this. Like, there are some, you know, fast, the fast movies come out. Fast 9 comes out this week, right? It comes out Friday. Yes. So, like, they have all these new movies coming out.

Your statement. What a part, what part of you versus your parents do you still, What are the bridges you still have to cross? I don't think you're becoming your parents. I think you've passed tense. 100%. It's not a Jaron situation. No, I think that what it is is that I had kids.

Yeah, I had kids, but I choose to watch movies like that I make you happy. Yeah, that I just felt were more, I don't know, it's just, I, maybe we're just comfort food, tapped out, there's certain things. And I, you can't go back and you can't, you can't go tweet about the gounies right now and say how this person should have it. So that shouldn't have it. like you just enjoy it. You just watch it.

You don't have all that, that fervor and, and nonsense leading up to the release of a movie. Yeah. Because whatever the movie is, unfortunately, it's constrained into two hours or less, whereas the buildup leading up to it was months and months and months of speculation and theories.

And you just try, there's no way to cram all of those expectations. Right. Into one tight two hour pat, it'd be like the Tesseract where you just hold it and your face explodes. I know. I just, I mean, there's just like, I usually go towards 80s movies when I'm going to go watch something recently, you know, unless there's like a series that I want to see. Just to put something on?

Yeah, I mean, right now, right now I have to, I have to rewatch, I haven't watched episode two of Loki yet. I'm going to watch that. So, I mean, that's, there are certain, that is what I will say, though, the good, I was finding myself in these huge gaps of like, I don't have a series to watch for now with with Marvel doing their series, Star Wars. obviously having their series. I'm telling you, do the boys. The boys. Get back in there. I'm going to have to probably just do that on my own and check it out.

Get back in there. I do want to see that. The other one was like, when Stranger Things coming back? I was, I'm so. I'm out. You're out. How many seasons have been three already? It feels like 10.

I liked, or was it? I can't remember. Again, talking about the 80s. No, no. It's, there's been three because the first series series was great. Loved it. I think the second one was over. Okay.

And the third one, did you watch the third one? I did. And I'm just like, look, guys, guys. I like the third one. I was there. I remember the 80s. Yeah. Okay?

So you think it's too much. Too much. I get it. Yeah. I get it. The thing is, though, they got to make this season like, I think they shot it already from what I hope. Because if not, I mean, Finn Wolfheart is going to be like 25 years old. They're all, the cast is great.

My favorite part about season three of Stranger Things is when they're like stumbling upon whatever. And they finally come to a clearing, there's a road and across the street is the 87. 7-11, like a classic 80s, and they walk in and it's all the 80s sodas. And, like, they're so thirsty. And so naturally, the 80s taught us that when you're really thirsty, what do you need? A Pepsi. And they just open a Pepsi and chugging. I'm like, I like, I like, that is, but I don't need, that's what I feel like.

You need just too many references? I feel like Stranger Things now has become the Pepsi when I'm actually thirsty. I'm star for, I want a real, something to glom on to here. And I just don't feel like I've had it since season one and just keep giving me Pepsi. See, I didn't feel that way about the third season. The third season to me felt like I was watching like an 80s movie. Like, that's, that it didn't, it didn't feel like it was trying to be 80s. I don't like when the movies try to be 80s, right?

But what I was doing as I was watching these 80s movies, I was doing like the math inside of it. I said, when I saw this movie, if you mindlessly, because that movie is now 36 years old, the Goonies. And if you do the math, you know, when you were like, okay, it's like 1950. from when that movie came out or whatever,

1950, yeah, 51, it came in 85, right? Right. So, and I was like, if my dad tried to make me watch a movie from like 1951 at that time,

because I, my daughter watched movies. Oh, right. When you do that. When you do it like that, when you're like, okay,

all these movies that I'm having my daughter watch, it's like my dad, and there were movies. I remember watching at Thanksgiving, watching like the old school King Kong. You know, and at that time, that movie was only like,

you know, what, 40 or 50 years old. Yeah. Yeah, they don't show you every movie from that era. Yeah. But I saw all the Beatles movies. Right.

And I'd see the King Kongs and I'd see the classic movie monsters and stuff like that. Right. I wanted to pass over it because I... See Revelled Out of Cause. Well, because these movies eventually, they start to become like, you know, pushed back to our generation is it and like the newer generation to say unless you make it part of their generation. Yeah. Like so...

And the assumption is that, oh, well, that's what movies are like back then. Right. So when people say, man, I miss the 80s. No, you don't. You miss the 80s greatest hits. Yes. You miss the best things possible out of the 80s. Absolutely.

So it's like you don't really miss the 80s because you still appreciate the best things of 2020, but it's just the best things that you're going to. You miss the, that you want to appreciate. You don't want to appreciate everything. But I think when people say that they miss the 80s also is that for most people that you hear say it, it's people. They miss being a kid.

They miss being a kid. They miss being a child. That's exactly what it is. I mean, it's taking you back to when you remember, because like when I think about the goonies and I think about these movies, I think about being a kid talking to my friends about. the Goonies or these other movies are Commando and watching those movies.

It'll make you build a fort in the woods. Sure will. Sure. And you just things and that's all it is. And it's the same way that they're like kids in the, that there were kids in the 90s, you know, and the thing about like to them,

it's 90s movies or early 2000s or, you know, shit, like even like, is there some kids now that in the 2010s, you know? There's kids nostalgic for our show. Which is nuts. You know, did I tell you about when I went to Starbucks? I think you did. I went to Starbucks this weekend.

Kid working the window. And I still put my mask on just because they're wearing their mask, and I just want to kind of be on the same team. Like, hey, I get it. So I just put it on when I'm getting their food. Again, the voice gives me away. And this kid Darien, and he's like, hey, he's like, I used to watch you guys all the time.

And so I told him, I'm like, well, you should check out the Shmode. I think you'd really like it. So, you know, you get people back in. But yeah, yeah, you said he used to watch us all the time. And I'm just thinking, like, man, That is the irony of life, though, is that when you're a kid, all you want to do is get the hell out of being a kid and become an adult and be on your own. Then as soon as you're on your own, you just look back with fond memories of being a kid. And I'm here to tell all you kids out there right now.

I'm 40. It's the best. It is the best. I'm a man. I'm 40. Talk to me. I love it. But I've seen a lot of those comments since we started doing this show. Like if you look at like the-

This is what he does. It's true. Towards the end of the show. It feels like, oh. Trying to get me to come back. It's like you feel, it feels like old times and all that stuff. And it does for sure. And a reminder to you guys, if you are on this show, you're watching this show,

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It's going to be fun. Cool downtown theater too. This has been fun, as always, is our third episode already. And it's been, what a wild ride it's been. It's been a wild ride. I can't wait to be nostalgic for this show. So the goal is to be back for Mark and myself to be back together on the show once a week and then we'll be introducing as you, well, right away.

I can let you know probably tomorrow the big thing show with my. myself and Brett Sheridan and Steph Sabra will be on tomorrow. So we'll be doing a, on the big thing or the goofball show? Big thing. Goofball is just, oh, the big thing's really taken off. Yeah, well, it's going to replace SCN. It's going to replace SCN. It's going to be on, on the other channel. He's got his battle plan mapped out. Yeah. Like Kevin McAllister on the wall, and I try to follow it. Yeah. And I'm like the, if this is American gangster, you're Russell Crow and you just have all the lines pointing to Frank Lucas. Right. Right. And I'm just the one guy who just,

I was a cop, but I took money. And now I'm doing age. And I'm shooting. And I'm, yeah. But that's all you need to do. But either way, it's, it's a reunion sorts, and there's going to be some special guests, and there's going to be a lot of fun. And thank you guys for joining us on the ride.

Thank you once again, Mark, for joining us here today. Thank you, Chris. You know all the neighborhood kids say about you. What are they don't say anything? They would love to mow your lawn. Oh, well, deagle, deagle. That's what you need to say, deagle, deagle, deagle. All right.

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