The Kristian Harloff Show - IS KANG DYNASTY DONE AT MARVEL OFFICIALLY?

Episode Date: November 16, 2023

DEC 2 TICKETS https://www.flapperscomedy.com/shows/kristian-harloff/72183/ In this episode of Big Thing, Kristian Harloff and Roxy Striar dive deep into the recent news surrounding The Avengers Kang Dynasty. With the loss of its screenwriter and director, rumors are swirling that Marvel may be abandoning the Kang storyline. Join us as we discuss the potential implications of this decision and speculate on where the Marvel Cinematic Universe could go from here. Plus, Roxy shares some juicy neighbor drama, and we give non-spoiler reviews of Napoleon and The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds and Sankes. Don't miss out on this action-packed episode! #mcu #marvel #kang #drdoom #hungergames #napoleon #reviews 

What's going on, everybody? Happy Thursday. It's the big thing. It's myself and Roxy Stryor. She is blowing bubbles. We'll get to that in a second. The Kang Dynasty. We talked about it on yesterday's show that the screenwriter was Gonsky.

Well, now the director is Gonsky. So I think it means that Kang might be Gonsky. We'll talk about that. All right, man. There's a lot of movies coming out. We got Napoleon coming out. I saw that. I'll get my non-spoiler thoughts for that.

movie. Roxie will ask me questions. I also saw the Hunger Games Ballad of Songs and Farts. Was it? Snakes and Farts, was it? Snakes and Sons? Songbirds and snakes.

Sounds right. Something like that. So we'll talk about that. And then there's a few other stories here and there's some trailers that drop. There's TV stuff. There's other things. So we got a lot to talk about. And yes, we've finally got a neighbor update and new sounds from Roxy. No Brett.

today, but that's okay, because Roxy and I need to talk about things. She's in trouble. That's not true. So, you know, Roxy, I'll tell her in a second. Before we do anything else, let me tell you guys about this. We have a show coming up. That's right. On December 2nd, stand-up comedy. Roxy Stryor hosting the whole night.

She's very excited about it. She's confident. She's ready to go. So get your tickets for December 2nd. Coy, Winston, Chris Carr, Kate Mulligan, Brett Sheridan. It's going to be awesome. So make sure you go. And if you're already, if you're not signed up to that Patreon, you get us the 600 patrons,

Mike Kalanowski would do five minutes also. All right. Let's get to this, man. You're already on Apple Podcast. You're on Spotify, so you're listening. It's me and Roxy. It's the big thing. Let's do it.

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back. It's a big thing. It is Thursday. Roxy Stryer doing bubbles Yeah honestly I'm just stand by the mic

You're like coy today What are you doing? You're like so far away from the microphone What are you doing? I don't think I am You don't think so Let me say hello Hello it's me

These are defective Oh the bubbles Oh they're all They're working They're little ones They've got this like Little bubbles in the bubble It's got to be a clean chute

Tiny bubbles In the wine Make me happy Make me feel happy Make me feel fine Close Something like that right Something like that

Give me a break That's before my time You never heard a song Before your time That you don't know the words so I mean I think that That sounds from like the 30s It's not from the 30s

It's Don Ho Oh really Yeah From the 30s I think so When is, let's say Tiny bubbles Hey Alexa

What year did tiny bubbles come out You know who is obsessed with that song? Tiny bubbles by Don Ho was released in 1966. 66. You have a new notification. Oh. Do you want to hear it? No, fuck off.

I want to hear it. Take the risk. Nah, it's gone. Just try it. No, I'm good. So Tiny Bubble. Who's obsessed with it? Kevin.

Kevin loves that song. Oh, Kevin. He's the only reason I know the song. He used to play it. So funny. Tiny bubbles in the wine. It's make me feel happy. Make me feel happy.

No, there's something fucking wrong with these. Make me feel. I wonder if anybody out there who listens to the show knows that song. What do you think? Only if there are 100. That's a really stupid thing to say. Did you, before we move on, did you pay any attention to the stuff going on in the UAP world? No, my dad sent me a text message at like two in the morning.

It was like, did you see? Did you see? There's stuff going on. I think yesterday at this point, so we'll have some updates for Tuesday for sure. I got to look into it right now. I'm about six days behind, which in this world is a lifetime. It's a lifetime. So, yeah, yeah, we'll be checking that up.

But we're going to talk about some things with me and the rocks. I'm trying to think we should get into, yeah, you know what? Let's, yeah, let's do the audio. So give me updates on the neighbor. Okay, so I haven't given you updates on the neighbor and probably like. Yeah, so we've had, this is a good thing. This isn't a bragging thing. This is so you know things because you've been gone for a little bit.

Since you've been gone. Who's things that? Kelly Clarkson. Nice. So the young people know that one. Yes. So since you've been gone. I can't breathe for the first time.

No. We've had a lot of new people come in, which is great, but they might not know. That's trash. Why? This thing is trash. Why? You don't want to tell the new people about your neighbor? Oh, the new people at home, I think I meant my seat. I was going to say, I'm better. You could have gotten away with, you could have gotten away with not realizing what I said and then kept that in there. I didn't, though. No, you didn't. The people at home. The people at home. It's people trying to take your job that you don't like. Yeah, fuck yeah.

Of course. Sure, sure. All right. So. Yeah, do you remember I used to come to work? You didn't like this. What? And now the world doesn't like this. I used to come with like a 102 fever.

I never missed a day. When we were at Collider, back in Schmo's, I never missed a day because nobody's taking my fucking seat. Right. Never missed it. It's so funny because when we were, I can say this, I saw you go to screening. And I was like, yeah, you're coming back. And you're like, well, I didn't lose my seat, right?

I'm like, no, we didn't lose your seed. Yeah. But then I said, yes, I did. And I said, no, you didn't. You had friends on. Yeah. Well, I mean, what am I supposed to do? I need to talk about things, you know what I'm saying?

You're supposed to wait for me. What's the opposite? What's the opposite of true? True. False. Okay. Okay. I'll ask you this question.

Go ahead. What's the opposite of Madder? Mad. Hey, everybody. It's the Mad Hatter. I'm going to be here today. Oh my goodness. Oh.

Not bad. Come on. Is it good? Do you want to get a laugh real quick what my 12-year-old said to me? very hard. I haven't seen her in a while. She's super tall. It's ridiculous.

Really? Yeah. So she was already taller than me. She was in some kind of mood the other day. And we were leaving for school. And she, you know, raised her voice, whatever, too. And I said, hey, windows are open. Don't be embarrassing.

So she's like, what's embarrassing is that haircut? Let me see. Not right now. What you got? It's got a lot going on. Is it a mop? No, it's not a mop. It was just my, but I, but my.

Was she right? No. My wife has been cutting my hair since the pandemic. Since the pandemic. Okay, but we're not in the pandemic anymore, Christian. Remember, my wife was. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's good at that.

Okay, it's not like me cutting your hair. No, it's not like I just found some random person. It's like, hey, my mom cuts my hair. You know, it's not like that. It's like, this is what she did for years. But I just got to cut and she and my daughter just fired that. And I didn't laugh in front of her. But when she was like, damn.

How did you help it? At the time? Yeah. That was a bedhead. I didn't care. No, how did you help your laugh? I would have just... Oh, she walked out of the room

and I waited for her to walk and I laughed. I said, damn, it was good. She's like, but I was like, come on, don't scream. It's embarrassing. What's embarrassing is that haircut. I was like, that's good.

All right. Anyway, go ahead. So let's warn the people at home and tell them what the situation. Give me a good people. For the good people. Okay, so previously on my life. I have a neighbor.

We share a wall. And she is... Christian thinks that she's a lady of the night. night, I think girls just want to have fun. So somewhere in between those things. Maybe both. Yeah. She just she is getting more action than

anybody I've ever met in my entire life. And at first, it was different people every time. But now, this one dude seems to prevail. Is it the crying dude in the corner? Yes. Okay. So I have, we have video cameras at our apartment in the hallway.

So I can see, I always, whenever I get their ring notification, I look just to see who's in the hallway. I'm not like spying on her. I just always like to see who's walking down. If you're in the hallway, free game. Right. Because it's like one in the morning in the hallway, right? Two in the morning in the hallway. So it's not like I'm checking it at noon.

No, total fair game. But it's when it's at nighttime. Okay, so I can see who's going in and who's going out. So this girl. So can she. Yeah, true. Which is how you know I'm not recording her by her door because she would see me. So that's how you know I'm in my apartment. Mine was a sexual drug, but yes. Going in and going

out. She could see who's going in and going out. I don't know. That's okay. I feel like there's some blindfolded stuff going on. Maybe. Maybe so. Maybe so. I got there eventually.

That's all right. So anyway, she has been, she had been sleeping around and I, it keeps me up all night, like until 4 in the morning. Right. Very, very loud. And strange noises. Dog style noises. It sounded like, yeah, we've played, so we've played audio because, again, if it, if my, my belief, and I think a lot of people agreed, is that if you're in your own house. I mean, my room.

If you're in your room and you're recording the sounds that you hear, the ambiance going on around you, and it picks that up, fair game. Now, if you're sticking the thing near her door underneath it, creepy. It didn't start because of the show. It started because I'd be in my room and I'd be woken up by screaming dog sounds. And I was like, it's everything okay. And I started to record it to send to one of my other neighbors to be like, what is happening here? And then it was every single night. And I was like, oh, my God, this is effing ridiculous.

That's a lot. All right. So what's the new story? So this happens during the pandemic. This is what happens during the strike when I wasn't here. Okay. I'm going to rant the audio. Go ahead.

Homegirl moves out to what I believe. So here's what happened. Okay. I have one friend in my building. Okay. He's the homie. Okay. Well, there's only eight units in my, or nine units in my building.

So I'm friendly with a lot of people, but I have one friend. Okay. And he told me, are you so stoked that she's moving out? Because he knows. She keeps me up all night. Sure. And I said, she's moving out. And he said, yeah, yeah.

I heard she's moving out. And I was like, oh, that's so great. Then, even though she is a lovely girl. Right. She's nice. I actually like her. But still. That's a lot.

Yeah. So then I see U-Hauls and movers. And I watch her move her stuff out into the U-Hauls. I watch all my cams. I see what's happening. And I was like, wow, she's really leaving. Her car's gone. A new.

But that guy, the one that was consistent, Cryer. His car's there all the time now. And I was like, huh. Did he move in? So he must have moved in. And I'm sitting there like, what? Did they move in together?

Did he just happen to move in? What's going on? And she's there every day. Okay. So she moved her stuff out, but she's living there. With him anyway. I guess. So what's the, what am I about to play here?

So what you're about to play is that the noise, the noises have started again. Okay. And I. After a hiatus. After a brief hiatus, not too long of a hiatus. And there, I don't know, I want people to know at home, I've never seen a dog go in or out of this apartment. Right. So what you're about to play is what I hear.

I think I send it to you at one in the morning. All right, let's say, hold on. This is what? So this is from my room at one in the morning. It's choking. I know it's harder to hear. This one's harder. It could sound like a dog.

It could sound like squealing. it's weird. Okay. Yeah, there's a lot going on. But it's like three hours of this. Obviously, I only sent you a minute. Right. But it's three hours.

And it continuously just has been happening for a year, right? Longer. Two? Yeah. But you can hear it's weird sounding, right? It's weird. It doesn't sound that loud. It doesn't sound that loud here, but when you're in, that's on my phone in my room.

You're picking that up. You're picking that up from the walls of your own apartment. So I want you to know that I've never been in this person's apartment. but my bathroom is between her apartment and my room. So you understand why you can hear it, but it's like... No, no, I'm saying I'm not even next to that wall. Oh, okay. I still have a bathroom and then my room, and this is from my room.

Yeah, but, you mean, you can hear from those noises. Whatever is going on over there. This is rough shit going on. I just like, either involving a dog or she's a dog. She's a barking and stuff? Yeah, yeah. I feel like that's probably more of the case. You never see a dog.

Yeah, she's like barking or maybe. And the last time we were, I mean, this was like the least clear of the audio so far. But like you can tell there's some weird shit going on there. Like some people have house dogs, right? They pee on the pee pad or whatever and they don't leave. Yeah, I know. But like, you never see the dog. Yeah, I don't know.

It's weird. I don't know. It's weird. It is. It's really bizarre. Yeah. So I saw him the other day. Okay.

Cryer? John Cryer. Yeah. John Cryer. At the dumpsters. Right. Makes sense. Is that where he lives in it?

when she's home? I have no idea, but I saw her baby. And he's Oscar. And he was throwing something out, and he needed help. It was like a big rug. It was a big rug. Big, big rug. And I was like, hey, you need a hand.

And he was like, oh, I really do. And I was like, I'm Roxy. He introduced himself. And I was like, so do you live here? And he was like, yeah, yeah. And I was like, do you live with? And then said her name. And he was like, oh, yeah, yeah.

That was it? Just like that? And I was like, oh. It's some weird shit going on, man. This is going to be like a news story. Yeah, I don't know. Except it can't be the answer. Like, oh, we never saw it coming.

No. It's like, yeah, there's shit going down there all the time. No, we can't possibly predict what's happening there. It's just been a lot. It's been a lot. It's a Netflix series. What was the last thing that I sent you guys that I was still not on the show? There was something else that I sent you guys that was like effing ridiculous.

You don't remember this? No. We went over the hallway situation. Yeah, the hallway was, yeah, that was like, there was the guy. When I went to send you this, I looked up and I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot about that thing too. Is there something on the same chain? Yeah, there was some...

Oh, okay. I said it's been hours. Her hip must be feeling better. Oh. This was when I was gone. Connected to the Bluetooth. Well, it's on your thing. All right. Here is the other audio here.

Yeah. Good Lord. Guy's hung like a rhinoceros, I think. He doesn't look that way. Who knows? She's enjoying herself. It's really every night, though. And, like, at first I would feel bad.

But, A, I'm never going to give this person's identity up. obviously. So nobody knows who it is, so it's fine. But B, it's my actual life that this is every night. Every night. Every night. It's a new soundtrack. And it's also reminding you that you haven't had sex.

I know. And like, so long. And I really am happy for her, but also like, can you shut the fuck up? It's loud. It's so loud. She's got to know she's that loud. At first I was like, it's great, Slate Queen. And now I'm just like, fuck you.

You got to admit she's not, you have to admit. But you said she's pretty, but not that bright, right? No, she's really bright. Is she? She's really pretty. And I think she's studying to be a doctor of some kind. Maybe that's it. Maybe it's like that mall rats.

You remember that mall rats when the woman who did the... She didn't respond to my last text, though. Oh. What, her? Yeah, the neighbor. She was keeping all this stuff in the garage. Oh, yeah. It was in my parking spot.

All right, we did 18 minutes in this. Yeah. All right. You were over it. Yeah, I think so for now. How far in were you over it just now? This is defective, Christian It's okay

It's for a six-year-old You just spit on me I didn't, it was this Yeah, but it's more same shit It's not All right, look, here's what we're gonna do Fuck this Fuck this

You know, there's Billy Eichner Used to do Billing the Street What? Billy in the Street Yeah, so Billy on the Street I remember when that was Before it went like viral

Um That's a ring Before I went viral I used to watch it. And I remember my friend Jenny used to, she used to find it. And she said, this guy is really funny. It was before, like, everybody knew who he was.

And I was, like, when I was working it, I was like, I was in between when I was working at Silver, but I was still temping. I would temp at Warner Brothers from time to time. I remember watching this stuff. And there's this one clip I cannot find. It is the funniest clip ever. What is it?

He's walking down the street, as he always does, and interviewing people and, you know, get random civilians to do stuff. And then he sees like, it's like this, I don't know if the guy's, an old German guy or a French guy? I can't tell. And he's got to be in his late 60s, maybe mid-70s,

and he's got this green jacket on like a beret. And he's walking down and Billy goes, sir, sir, wanted to ask you a question about this. And the guy goes, fuck this. Billy goes, okay, okay, very nice, very nice. It's the best clip. I've been looking. I love watching his show.

I've been looking for that clip for years. If anybody can find it, please send it to me. It's just, it is literally, you're walking up to this guy and he's like, sir, I'd like to ask you if you're going to fuck this. It's okay. Very nice. Very nice. It looks right by. I was in hysterics when I saw it was hilarious.

I can't find it anywhere. I was looking for years. Did you look on TikTok? I looked everywhere. I can't find it. Did you look on TikTok? Yeah, sure I did. Did you look on TikTok?

I think I did. I would believe that I did because I did look everywhere. So did you look on TikTok? I did. I don't know if that's true. I want to know from you guys at home. Do you think Christian looked on TikTok based on that or not? Maybe not.

All right, listen. Let's talk about... I have so much headroom, Christian. I'm not that tall. Where? Well, now you look. This is me the whole show. Now you look like Napoleon.

I do have a Napoleon complex. Complex. Yeah. That works. Okay. So, speaking of movies that I saw. So yesterday, at the time of this, I guess two days ago, I aired this. I saw Napoleon.

Good old nap. napies. I saw it on, around like 4 p.m. and I was worried because I had to go see two screenings. One was at 4. One was at 7, which was the Hunger Games one

and we'll talk about in a second. But I was like, okay, this movie's 240. So I don't know if I'm going to be able to, you know, get... Appoint's 2.40. 2.40. So, and apparently the director's cut is like 410, and they're going to put it on Apple next year.

It's just not a movie length. What, 410? Yeah, it's not a movie length. It's like a, yeah, it's like a... I understand Scorsese disagrees with that, but... And Ridley Scott disagrees with that. There's a lot of directors who do four-hour movie cuts, but just to me, anything over three hours is not a movie.

Well, you know, it's funny because there's this... The movie itself... Now, this is, does this bother you? And I think I told you this yesterday, because it bothers me, and I was talking to my wife. She's like, I can understand. I don't think it bothers everybody, though. I didn't mind...

There's a TV show out right now, and it's what's his face? The guy... Sean Levy's show, right? And it's, is it Sean Levy? Who's, who did the, who did the old man? Was it Sean Levy? Oh, I don't know. I think it was Sean Levy.

What's the show? The show is the one on Netflix about the period piece, the German piece one, and Stephen the night wrote it, and it's what we do when we're sleeping or what the hell is it called? Just came out like two weeks ago. All the light. We cannot see. Yes.

All the lives we cannot see. So that show, my wife starts watching it. And I'm like, okay, you know me. I love World War II stuff. Mm-hmm. So I'm like, let me check it. Who are you looking for? No, I was just looking at it as Sean Levy.

And it's all the way we cannot see. Yeah. And I like Sean Levy a lot. And he directed the first episode and he produced it. And I like Stephen and I as well too. And I'm like, okay, this is going to be for me. So I'm like World War II stuff all day long. So the opening scene is like they're, the American, it was like the end of the war and

Americans are kind of bombing this, uh, this place, uh, in its Paris, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, the Germans are occupying us. So the Germans are still there. It's like the last legs of the, of the Nazi empire. And there, and these Germans are together in this room, no one else around. And they're speaking English? Just fucking talking English. It's like, why? It's like, I understand the whole show can't be in, in German because it's unless you're going to like dark was in German it was a German show. What are you going to do have them speak in English when they're with other people? When they're around French, when they're around the French and they're talking because maybe

it's it's back and forth and there's a couple different things that they that's the language that they both know. Okay fine. But when there's two German soldiers all by themselves. So you're like Schindler's List bothers you? Oh, Shinler's List they're talking. They're back and forth in German and and but but the difference is this. The difference is that you do get up to the point where it's like, okay, well, I understand why they don't want people to tune out because of subtitles and stuff.

Fine. They have German accents. I'll give it a pass. So my Napoleon problem is this. Everybody in the movie, everyone has some kind of an accent except Joaquin Phoenix, who is speaking in an American accent. Now, Napoleon wasn't, he was born in Italy and he didn't have the biggest, he didn't have much of a accent. a French accent in general. It was kind of like muddle.

But he didn't sound like he was from Minnesota or whatever. Or California or whatever. He didn't. And there's times when Joaquin Phoenix is talking, and it's a great performance. But it threw me out of it a couple times. I'm going, oh, he's just, there's a bunch of people with all these, he's sitting there talking to the guy from Prussia. And he sounds like he's from the California.

Yeah, it's strange. I haven't seen the movie yet, and I know exactly what you're talking about. It is always interesting to me who made that choice, right? Like, is that what he presented? Directors like, cool, actors like, this is what I got, or does he present something else? Directors are like, no. Or does he try the French accent? It just sounds so bad because you and DJ Wildred said something to me that I do agree with about this, and that was, well, isn't it more jarring if it's a bad French accent?

Way worse. Yeah, way worse. Which we'll talk about in Hunger Games. Was there a bad... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a particular choice. I don't think it was a bad accident. I just don't understand why. It just was a wild choice.

So, but again, that's not a... It's not something that takes away from the movie itself. Like, the movie is Napoleon. Gorgeous, obviously. It is a period war film. It doesn't... What it does well is it shows the rise of this soldier in... to the emperor.

He becomes the emperor of France, for God's sake, you know. But it doesn't try to show him as this kind of hero, even though he's as an incredible war. Do you like him in the movie? Not necessarily, you don't. Like are they trying to make him? No, like, like redeem. Yeah, yeah.

Like, oh, you should, like this is a great guy. No. No, no, no. No, he slaps his wife right on. Like he does like, like, you know, it's like he. But not, I mean, it is, it is a, it is a. love story though, a toxic one, but it's a love story, and it's about

him and Josephine, who even is documented where he's off fighting wars and she's banging other dudes. You know, he comes back and he's like, it's just a, they were, it was just a very bizarre relationship in general, but he, she couldn't give

him an air, like it was like this, it was like this whole thing. So he's, but they do show how brilliant of a, like how he was at war. And And I liked what they did, the way Ridley Scott made this, almost like this, like, very morbid chess. You know what I mean? And the amount of soldiers, they show, like, the amount of soldiers that he lost in battles.

Like, something like, oh, that's a lower number, big number, a lower number. And then there's one number that you're like, holy shit. Like, you know, they go through a lot of stuff. But the problem is when you're going through, even with the two-hour and 40-minute movie, there are times that it's like because you're spanning a 15 to 17 year period that it feels like oh that just jumped they just kind of throw away in a line

that that happened now and that person that he was friends with they're no longer friends now and now those people are now going to war and it's like the people you've heard of well it's someone in the movie like someone in the movie like oh they're friends and then in the next scene they're not

now they're going to war but it's like where did that whole scene go and there is like a four hour cut that Ridley Scott is releasing So a TV show. It's like a event, right? It's to me the same thing like the Snyder Cup. The Snyder Cup played well on television for me because you can pause it, come back to it the next day, and it plays well. And it's almost like, if you can just transition to it now, I thought that the Hunger Games movie really played like, and this is a compliment to it.

Not years ago, I think this would have been an insult. But like it played like a television show. And I think that writing in television today is better than writing in movies because you can really spend time with the characters and marinate on the characters. And that's kind of what I thought the New Hunger Games did. Yeah. Do you want to talk about it? Yeah. You want to talk about it?

Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Go ahead. You loved it. I enjoyed it a lot. Yes. I liked it a lot too. Yeah.

I had more issues with it than you did, I think, though. Yeah. You know, it was super good. But for anybody who doesn't know going into it, no spoilers, obviously, it has three very distinct acts, as a lot of movies do. But those three acts were, it really did play like either a book or a TV show. It did not play like a movie, which I love TV shows. And that's cool, but it was a little jarring. I get it.

Yeah. But I was okay with that. I found there to be a lack of chemistry between the leads. It's funny. I didn't. That were in discon. Yeah. And that, of course, is a problem.

For sure, yeah. I think that they're both stellar actors. I just didn't believe that them. Yeah. I did from the way that the relationship is put together. It's put together. So if people don't know what the story's about, because I didn't.

I didn't read this book. I read the first. It is. Yeah. Suzanne Collins wrote this one as well. Afterwards. Yeah. The first three I did read.

Really enjoyed the first. first book, thought the first movie by Gary Ross was okay. Catching Fire is your favorite? Catching Fire is my favorite. It's a really good book. Best movie, for sure. And then Mocking Jay won into the movies. It's just one book.

There's only so much, I just didn't like the book. The book was just kind of like, der. And so it was the same story in the movie. So I didn't know what this was about. I thought they were essentially going to rehash the first one. And they don't. They don't rehash the movie at all. Like, she doesn't play like Catnais to me at all.

They're not trying to make her Catanus. No. I did look up afterwards. Like, is there a relation between? Because there's one moment that I was kind of curious about. About the flowers or whatever? Yeah. And also, we know their districts and stuff.

No, I think that essentially, I think that's just who Katness was named. Named out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, but I think that maybe because I didn't read the books, I loved all four of the original movies. this to me is definitely the worst of the five movies in this franchise.

I loved all four of the other ones. Loved. Wow. Didn't have a movie that I didn't love. So I liked this one. I did. But to me, it wasn't as good as the original Krillogy.

What is four? I think it's the second best. What's four called? Quadruple. It's not as good as the farple for me. This can't be your second favorite. Second favorite. Yeah, I do.

Not my second favorite story. If I'm going to put them all in stories, including the books. How good of a movie you think it is? This is the one you think is the second best. I think it's better than the first one. I think it's more detailed than the first movie. The first movie leaves out a lot.

Just because I know the book so well. Yeah, and I don't. The book is done. The book, it just, it wasn't, and I think it's why Ross left because I don't think it was as good. Because what's this, Lawrence, Francis Lawrence, directs. He directed two. He directed three, well, part one and two, Mocking Jane, directed this one. And I just think he understands the world so well.

and I think the Hunger Games are presented better in this than they were in the first movie. It was super. The way that it's presented, the first, if you had asked me after Act 2 of this movie, I would have been like, I fucking loved this movie.

Like, I was in it and so in it. But things, it didn't fall apart for me. It just got... It takes a turn. And that turn for me was not beneficial for my viewing. So I get that. Because I also saw, I think Perry had the same issue.

When I was looking at a tweet from her about... Really, Perry and I never agree. I know, I never agree, but I did see that. And I thought I, and the thing is, I can see where a lot of people are like this, it just feels like they, because they could have, and I said this to you on the phone last night, you could have done,

ended after one particular part, part two of the movie, chapter two of the movie. You could have ended it there, and then, if it does well, what we see from chapter three on, made that the second movie. You could have easily done that? And then I would have thought that this movie was like,

and I think there's going to be a lot of people that feel that way. However, I love the change. I loved how it was, it wasn't predictable. It felt like a little jarring that we were, where they went. But I'm predictable in a certain way.

Because we know where we go. We know where he goes, of course. But I mean, but I think that what I mean by that is predictable as far as storytelling, as far as the way that movies are usually presented. It's usually, you would usually get exactly what we just said.

You would usually, the end of that, the chapter two would be the end of the movie, but it's like, no, that's why I felt like TV. It felt like, no, no, it's not over yet. We're going to go down this path. And I enjoyed it because I was so invested in the story that they took us with Tom Blythe, who it's his movie.

It's his movie. I thought it was going to be Rachel Ziegler's movie. It's not. It's his movie and he runs with it. Never heard of this kid before. thought he was incredibly He's very talented Very talented

She going back to something we talked about before She has a full-blown southern accent in this week Oh yeah I don't know why that choice was made She's the only one in the movie with a southern accent And it is like a deep south strong southern accent With no reason I mean the only reason they do She travels

They do explain that her mom and her came from a different place Right but that place is clearly the south in our universe. Like it just was... Yeah, I mean, but who knows? I mean, it is our universe just thousands of years, or not thousands, a hundred years later, I think, so it's like... So that's what the... Maybe.

I mean, that one, I can give a pass a little bit more than I can, someone talking like they're from Detroit in the middle of France. I guess, I guess to me, it was distracting, so it was distracting. Fair. Like, I'm not, I don't know whether it was better or worse than something else. I just know

I would have preferred her not to have it, because I kept thinking, why does she have a southern accent? Yeah, I mean, I think that had they not explain that whole thing that the traveling people, I was like, oh, okay, maybe the traveling. But how come the rest of the traveling people don't have it? Who are the traveling people? Who else are the traveling people? My perfect day has sand, salt water, and friends.

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We don't see them. The blonde girl, the other girl, the who, yeah. Which one are you talking about? No, she came from this thing with her mom. Yeah, and her commute, she wants to take care of this community there, called something. Oh, right, right, right, whatever the hell they are. Right, and that blonde girl who goes and fetches her guitar? And she doesn't have an accent?

No, not that I heard. No, no. Yeah, we met a couple. That one's a little nitpicky, though. I would say, I agree, except for the fact that it was distracting. Right. So if it's distracting. To you, right.

Yeah, then it's not a nitphing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that's fair. You know what's crazy, though, is like, while I was watching this movie, I really, really enjoyed it. So I can't sit here and say I didn't really like this movie because I didn't really like this movie. Just there were things that I was like, if this movie had changed. by 5%

I could have liked it 20% sure so you think if it would have ended it after chapter two you probably really would love it I think I would have

loved it the chemistry thing was a little tough for me and I think it was glaring with the shift is when I really

started to notice like oh I kind of felt this throughout more I'm curious what people are going to say I think they're

going to love it I can see a lot of people saying exactly what you and Perry said though I can see

tons of people saying it should have ended after chapter two I don't think most fans think like that? I don't know. Right? Isn't that a very like uppity critic thought? Not really.

No, because I think that that to me is like because the majority of the focus of the story is chapter one and chapter two. And it's, I mean, everything, you spend a lot of time in the Capitol. Yeah, this is a long time to get to the games. There's a lot of stuff. And so when, so when you end it in the end of chapter two, you're like, okay, that could be the ending. But it's not the story they really were telling.

And that's why I liked three, because when you get to chapter three, even though some people might feel like, oh, they could have pushed this into another movie. When you look at the core of what this story is about from the second it starts, it really wraps up. I liked chapter three, maybe the most of all of the chapters. Interesting. I just thought it was misplaced into this movie. Yeah, I loved chapter three. I love what they did. I hope anybody who's seen it knows where we go.

But this is an Anakin's kind of story, you know? So this is like a, this is a story that. How to Snow Go to the Dark Sun. Right, exactly. So I thought that they actually did that part. That was Tom Blythe's best performance was in Chapter 3 because he's so like, oh, gosh, so great. You believe that he turns into Donald Sutherland. Yeah.

See, and that's again, and I don't like to do this because people get up in arms when I do it. You're about to talk about solo? Yes. And it just. It just shows the difference. It just shows the difference. That's the thing. When you look at,

like so this is something that I'm going to reference now when people say like, well, of course he wasn't the solo that we know because he's not there yet. Even when Snow is in his most pure form in this movie, you still go, oh, that's the guy.

He's going to be that guy. Do you feel that way about Hayden? Yeah, because Hayden now has had TV shows and other things to kind of marinate even more in the show. So, but when I look and I go, yeah, that's the guy. Like, that's, that's Donald Sutherland who, like, I can see where that goes from there all the way there because there still, even though he's significantly different as a 19-year-old kid where he's going to be in his late 60s or 70s, his personality is still, his traits are there. Yeah, he did a really killer job, really killer job. It just was like, I study scripts, obviously, as do people here.

So when we got to part three, I was just like, this is not, the structure is throwing me off. And maybe upon second watch, third watch, it would be easier because I kind of know where the shift is coming, but it was jarring. Yeah, I get it. And that's like I said, like it just to me, I liked the non-traditional jarringness of it. It made it go from an A to a B for me. All right. So very curious of what you guys think of all these movies that are coming out. There's a ton, there's tons of films coming out now, especially there's tons of promotion now coming out. Roxanne, I know you're always excited when I talk about Green Chef. I really am. I love them.

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That's the problem. Come on. Me and you, Roxy. What are you can talk about? We can talk about our night out that you don't want. that you don't want to talk about. Oh, yeah, because I'm hiding that. Oh, yeah.

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Yeah, I don't think he's too creepy. He's a little, I think he's creepy. He's creepy. Mother effing creep. I would do it. Okay, I'd do the whole hour. Full show. All right.

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It officially loses its director. Destin Daniel Cretton update on his future MCU projects. More big changes are taking place at Marvel Studios as it's been confirmed that Destin Daniel Cretton will no longer direct Avengers the King Dynasty. Where does that leave Shung Chi 2 and Wonder Man? Josh Wilding, deadline and the other Hollywood trades have confirmed today that Destin Daniel Cretton has decided.

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and Avengers Secret Wars, but nothing has been confirmed and it feels like Marvel's going back to the drawing board with both movies. It's likely a result of Jonathan Major's ongoing legal issue and the mixed response to Kang the Conqueror as the MCU's new big bat. It would be strange to abandon the villain now. Thanos didn't exactly get glowing reviews after Guardians of the Galaxy, so we're recasting could be planned. The multiverse saga is very much in the state of flux,

and we wouldn't at all be surprised if the release dates on both Avengers movies change again. We're hopeful a cret doesn't tend to work on something with Marvel, but it's always hard to tell when there's a split. Roxy. Yeah. So there's a lot here, obviously, you know, with the announcement of the screenwriter yesterday, not being part of it, the ongoing legal troubles of Jonathan Majors, the kind of Loki Season 2 basically saying, look, there's ways to get us out of here if we need to.

And now the director's stepping off, but sticking around with Marvel, to me what it seems like is they called them in. They said, look, we like what you're doing. We want you to do a bunch of stuff. We're going to revamp this whole thing. So, why don't you step off of this? We'll do Wonder Man. We'll do this other stuff. To not do Shang-chit sequel is silly, considering it's one of the biggest hits that they've had recently.

That's so strange to me. I think that they're going to do that at some point, I think. You would have seen, yeah. I mean, Simu is great, and the movie was solid, and people liked it. So it's one of the things that's working for you guys right now. Yeah, I don't know. It would be so weird to ditch it. It'd be strange, but it does play to me that they would say, yeah, we're just going to go in a different direction.

Now, we talked about this kind of in depth when we talked about the screenwriters yesterday, myself and Frank and Steph. And I posed the same question I'm going to post to you is that do you think, because of the way they've set up Kang, that they should scrap him or should they recast him if, indeed, they are going to go away from Jonathan Majors? I'm not obsessed with Kang. I don't think that he is, like, the most necessary character,

but I also think that Marvel tends to have a villain problem. And at least we know kind of what he was doing. and Loki, obviously, is a fan favorite. And the fact that the TVA, I was like TCA, no, that's wrong, TVA, the fact that TVA is now, spoilers for Loki, off looking for all of the Kangs in the world, that could lead to something fun. I think that, obviously, you can't keep Jonathan Majors.

I think that you could recast him pretty easily, variant, whatever. Don't even mention it. I don't even give it crap. Well, you can't keep them yet. I mean, the trial hasn't even really happened yet. You can't keep who? Jonathan Majes, you can still, there's still a possibility that could keep him. You said they can't keep them.

There's still a possibility you can keep them. I think it's very unlikely based off of all the evidence that's been presented so far, but you are right if he goes to trial and for some reason, every single woman that's come forward is all, it's all proven to be false. I just don't think that that is what's happening. Maybe not, but that's, but I'm just saying also, and there's probably a reason when you, because of what you're saying also, Marvel does enough research going, what are we looking at here?

How likely do you think it is? What's our chances that he's going to be proven, guilty, innocent? And they're doing internal investigations. Exactly. So, like, they must have enough information if they're going to go the other way to say, okay, this is not going to, it's not going to go his way. Yeah. It was

that one piece of information that came out about one of the women who had been accusing him that she had an arrest and that there was an issue there, but it seems like there's an overwhelming amount of information. I mean, and even if he does win, same thing as Ezra Miller, who has not is not receiving prison time and

has gotten away with a lot of things. He didn't go to trial, though. They didn't go to trial. They did go to trial. Yeah, they did go to trial. I don't remember that. I don't remember Esramiller going to trial. Yeah. Yeah. For the home in the burglary. Okay. Maybe the burglary

itself with the other stuff too. But But either way, I think there's a difference to where if it comes out again, I'm just hypothetically, to where it's like we find out that the charges, innocent, everything, right? But are you saying that because Ezra Miller, you think that they're more likely to keep Ezra because there was a lack of trial? No, no, no, they're going to, because also the flash did terribly. What I'm saying more so with Jonathan Majors is if they have Jonathan Majors set to

do this entire storyline. And then he is proven innocent. Just again. And they get rid of him. And he had a contract. It's a lawsuit. I think this would still probably be a breach of one of his clauses. If he's proven innocent?

Probably. Because it depends on what they are able to prove. Right. But the flip side of that, if he's proved, now the clauses decided if he's proven guilty is then that's why I'm thinking like you said, the internal investigations, the research on it, that if you're getting this close to say, let's move on, let's take the director off, let's take the writer off,

then they probably have a pretty good hunch. Yeah. That it's going to go the other way. So my question, I guess, would be do they, do... Scrap and a recast. Yeah, because I think that... I think either's fine. Either's fine, right?

Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, I think at this point, people would be like... And you can explain it through the variance. You can explain it if you're going to recast, you can explain it. Or you just really focus on Dr. Doom and bring them in quick. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't think many people were attached to Kang.

It's the same thing Steph said yesterday, too. It's like he didn't have the effect. But to Josh Wilding's point, though, he hasn't really had enough time. But the biggest mistake that they did have was having the scariest version that was supposed to be in quantum mania, get beat by Ant Man and the Ants. Like when he was able to get beat by Ant Man, good villain, but okay, well, if he's going to get beat by Ant Man, then the other variants could probably get beaten by everybody else.

Yeah, that's not like a Thanos style. No. Yeah, I think that that's a pretty good point. Also, I know that you guys feel differently. I know every person on the planet feels differently. Believe me, I know. I didn't love this season of Loki. Did you watch the last episode?

Did you love the last episode? This is good. I loved it. I thought that the entire season could have been a 10 to 15 minute short. Oh, man. And I thought that the last episode. All right, Roxy froze at one point, so I don't know where you froze at. But either way.

In hell. Where were we talking about? So Loki. Yeah. I just think it was good. I definitely thought it was good. But I didn't gush over it. And Jonathan Majors was a huge distraction for me in that as well.

Oh, because you didn't like the way he played Victor timely with the accent and stuff. It was like goofy to me. Yeah. Yeah. I loved it. I love this season, but anyway, we had a lot more. You and everyone else. Yeah, I mean, I dug that particular thing, especially coming after the Marvels.

But anyway, Roxy was good to have you back on. We'll see you back with Brett next week. Yeah. No. Not next week? Thanksgiving. Oh, Thanksgiving. Unless you have me do digital because you love digital.

False. I don't know. We'll figure it out. So thanks for joining us here, guys. Appreciate it for Roxy Stryor and me. Make sure you hit that subscribe button. leave a comment Apple Podcasts, Spotify.

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