The Kristian Harloff Show - Is Liam Neeson lying about being in Kenobi series? | The Sith Council

Episode Date: April 21, 2022

Will Qui-Gon-Jinn return in the Obi-Wan-Kenobi series? That is the biggest question in the Ewan McGregor lead Lucas Film, Disney Plus series. A lot of people think it is a no brainer that the Jedi Kni...ght must return to help his former Padawan on Tatooine. However, Liam Neeson gave an interview recently and said he would not return to Star Wars in the small screen and would rather it be film. Do we believe him? Or do we think this is just another ruse to get perception away from reality? Kristian Harloff, Steph Sabraw and Mike Kalinowski return on the Sith Council to discuss all things Star Wars. Follow the crew on Twitter! Kristian Harloff https://bit.ly/31PePMD Steph Sabraw https://bit.ly/3m0ud0z Mike Kalinowski https://bit.ly/39wu8N5 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, everybody. New graphics. That's right. I'm very proud of myself. I'm excited. We're going to do a great show here today because we got the whole council back together. It's myself. It's Steph Sabraa.
Starting point is 00:00:11 It's Mike Kalinowski. And we have questions from you guys and great questions. As we approach Obi-Wan, it's coming up. It's right around the corner, guys. I can't wait to talk about it. And so if you don't know, I've got a big thing shirt on, right? And why do I have that on? Because now the Sith Council show, this isn't really affect YouTube at all,
Starting point is 00:00:28 but for Sith Council listeners, this is the last show that you're going to be able to get in the Sith Council podcast feed. Because starting, well, actually starting today, but we're going to be putting every Sith Council episode on the Big Thing podcast feed. So it is essentially a big thing show, but it's the big thing Sith Council episode. So just so you guys know, if you listen to this on audio, this will be the last time you'll be able to hear it on the Sith Council audio feed. So make sure you subscribe to the Big Thing audio feed. Speaking of which, I've been showing Stefan Kalinovsky my graphics I've been making today. I'm very proud of this one as well. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:01:03 This is a new one. This is subscribe, like it. Check it out, man. We've got a lot going on in this channel. I cannot wait for the Obi-Wan stuff, the Moon Night reviews. I just did a review of the Northman. So much stuff on the channel. And we need you guys to check it out.
Starting point is 00:01:17 All right. Speaking of great graphics. Oh, yeah. I can make you stronger. What's up, everybody? Welcome back. Sith Council, big thing, Sith Council. Got it used to say in that.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Joining me, as always, Mr. Mike Kalanowski. Hello there. Hello there. How are you? And Steph Sabra. Hello there. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:01:46 How are you guys? It's nice to see you. You know how I am today. I'm off camera. Here we go. You're good. How do you like the lightsabers? I love it.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I love them. I love my face too. I got so excited. Yeah, look at that. So, as we look, Steph's got our little. Look at that. Look how cute she is. Did you draw those?
Starting point is 00:02:04 I did not. And I know, I have to get the artist's name that sent that graphic. Someone just sent it in? Someone sent it in. I've been using it. I got to, I got to give the guy credit. So I got to find who was. I've been doing these thumbnails now.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I'm obsessed with the thumbnails and everything. Well, I got to give props. I give big props to Greg Alba. Real Reject. I do. Greg Alba's a great guy. He's a really, he's not only a... I don't talk about a good person.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Positive personality. He's a, positivity plus. But he's a, he's a really good friend. I thought I'll say. He's just, he's a really good person. And I'm, and, but besides just being a good friend, he's, he's very smart in this. And he was helping me out with some of the stuff. And he gave me some, some tips.
Starting point is 00:02:46 And I've been using them. And so we've been doing that. And Sith Council today, speaking of talking to people and talking our pals, we got the full Sith Council. We are. But we also are going to be talking to the audience, right? Because they have a lot of great questions. So many that I had. pulled all these questions like this.
Starting point is 00:03:03 If we did all these questions, we'll be here for three hours. So I pulled the ones that I thought were really, really great. They were all really great. Oh, that's cool. So some good ones. I've always wanted to do an AMA, but then I would feel guilty if I wouldn't be able to answer all the questions. No, you got to be worried if I didn't get any questions.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I'd be like, nobody likes me. Don't let fear stop you. Yeah. It's the truth. All right. So we are going to start, though, with the first. There's a story going on. And, oh, that's a great story.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Do you hear this story, Mike? I didn't. This is that, what is that? This is Amy Hemelling, the woman who created Uncharted. Yes, I just read that this morning. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So she's doing a game finally for Star Wars that everyone's so excited about. I don't want to get some of the details for this.
Starting point is 00:03:45 The deets. The deets. You know they're going to, all the stories start to break, like the rumors start to break right before celebration. And then usually the one, the reports, like, you know, you know Amy Henning is going to have a massive panel probably at Star Wars celebration. but here's the rumor. Amy Heading and Skydance's Star Wars game is a spiritual successor to EA's canceled project rag tag. So there was an announcement that Amy Hemming was working on a new Star Wars project. There might not be a completely new project after all. In a matter of speaking, if the rumors are true, indications seem to be that the project she is developing with Skydance
Starting point is 00:04:19 as a spiritual revival of her earlier Star Wars game pitch referred to eternally as Project Ragtag at Electronic Arts. Earlier today, Amy Heading best known for her work on the uncharted video game series, Chipped in following the confirmation that she and the team at Skydance are looking for the new talent for, excuse me, looking for new talent for a creative endeavor in the Star Wars galaxy with multiple positions waiting to be filled. She says, excited to share the new Star Wars news today. Here's the even better news that we're hiring. If you'd like to join our team to work on either Marvel or Star Wars, check out our job listings down below. There's lead VFX artists, senior systems designers, senior software engineers, senior animation engineer, senior gameplay animator, principal gameplay animator. And with the news of the title's development,
Starting point is 00:05:03 some rumor details come out of the woodwork. There was a leaker who had probably given authentic leaks and details on the development of Star Wars Eclipse has collaborated with dual shockers and revealed that the new project entitled Project Waldron will be set in the days of the Galactic Civil War, which seems to be the only place anything's ever set. I was going to say, is that just a fancy word of saying?
Starting point is 00:05:23 Same place as always? Yeah. More importantly, however, Project Waldron is said to be a revival of sorts of Project Ragtag, which is the unfinished Star Wars game that was being developed at EA and Viceral Games, and later, EA Vancouver before development was discontinued altogether. What we do know about Project Ragtag indicates it would have been a third-person shooter set between New Hope and Empire,
Starting point is 00:05:44 with the players put into a small role of smuggler, now Mike's listening, rumored to be Hans Solo at one point before the development of the solo film shifted to the story of an original character and a motley crew of criminals. In this story, the destruction of the first Death Star caused the empire to crack down on regulations for multiple planets under their control, yada, yada, yada,
Starting point is 00:06:02 and then we get back into stuff that we've seen a million times. With this, I don't know, there's a lot of shit here. So, it's just, enough. Enough.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Let's, I mean, this, the thing that gets me excited about it, is not the time period. Yeah. It's not the smugglers. It's not the Death Star because we've seen it a million times over.
Starting point is 00:06:19 It's the fact that Amy Henning is doing it. Okay. To have that type of game. Yeah. Like an uncharted type game? Yeah, and Star Wars. You know,
Starting point is 00:06:26 it's funny. People felt, felt that way with the fallen order for the fallen order they're like I was like that didn't feel uncharted to me they were like oh it's uncharted type and I was like it didn't feel like it didn't get in yeah it didn't work for me why I don't know it didn't work for you uncharted is one of my favorite series of all times it is one of my absolute favorite series of all times and I should be ashamed that I didn't know that Amy handing yeah was in charge of it I didn't know that that game is awesome and yeah and I agree with you I do think the
Starting point is 00:06:57 I do think that the story of that, the jet, what's it? Fall in order. I do think that the story itself is really good. I had a problem with the game. The problem I have with the game is because I'm not. The game play, you had a problem with it. Yes. I'm a noob. I'm not going to pretend that I'm not.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I need help. So if I, when there's these games that when you're playing it for a while and you're around like a bush and you, and you, it's the game basically tells you, how many games that are like this? Uncharted is like this. You're playing a game and basically says, hey, asshole, stop circling the bush. It's not. over here.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Yeah. Hint, it's over here. That's what they do in uncharted. Yeah. If you keep looking around, hint, in this game, you can, you could piss on this tree. You could put a, you got to have a camp by this. Oh, you could fall off a cliff every five minutes and it keep, you stick in the same spot.
Starting point is 00:07:43 No one helps you with shit. I'm like, I'm out. No one helps you with shit. I'm like, I'm out of here. That's the problem. Nobody helps each other anyone in this world. No, it's simulating life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I don't need it. I don't need it. I don't need it. But, but either, but the story itself was, fantastic. And when I was getting, when I was actually progressing in the game, I loved it. I loved it. I just, I just got so frustrated that I'm like, I started at 9 o'clock. It's three in the morning. I'm in the same spot I was at, at midnight. And I'm like, enough is enough. And it, and it's no one's problem except my own. I like, I like, I was one with Sam Whitware, Force Unleash. There's a question
Starting point is 00:08:22 about Force and Leash we'll get into. But before we, before we do that, there's another, as we, as you guys saw, And people are going to, they ask about this in the questions itself, but I do want to get to the topic at hand, which if you clicked on the video in the first place, you saw this. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is, is this character? Is Liam Neeson lying? Is he lying? Is he telling, is he telling lies?
Starting point is 00:08:47 Here's the question. Here's the article at hand in what they're, what they're saying about good old Quigon. Liam Neeson might be one of the Hollywood's busiest men, but he isn't completely ruling out a return to a galaxy far, far away, although he says any return as Quigon would have to be on the big screen in the film. Bullshit. Skeptical fans can rightfully speculate Nisans doing a build of deflection,
Starting point is 00:09:10 misdirection, as many believe, Neeson will return for Obi-Wan Kenobi, but the Jedi Master is doing his best to throw curveballs into the mix. While out-promoting his new movie memory, Neeson spoke with Comicbook.com, who opted to not ask the actor about any potential role. he asked Nieson instead if you'd consider coming back to Star Wars
Starting point is 00:09:29 have given the chance. He said, oh, I think so, yeah, if it was a film. I'm a bit of a snob when it comes to TV, I guess, except when I did Clone Wars a through a bunch of different times. Oh, wait, he didn't say that. I must admit, I just like the big screen, you know. Didn't he just did a TV show? Like, if you were to deflect, like, that is...
Starting point is 00:09:45 The best way to do it. Not even the best way. It's a shitty way to do it, because it's terrible. It's like, well, go scroll back so I can see that here. Oh, okay. Scroll up. Like, yeah, I'm a bit of a film snob when it comes to TV. I just like the big screen. Like, Yeah, that's like, yeah, I'm on this TV show now, so I'm going to go completely 180 with what. That's a terrible lie. It's not good.
Starting point is 00:10:01 We'll go get into it. That's terrible. So then he said, I can't believe it's 24 years since we made the Phantom Menace. I can't believe where the time has gone. It was a terrific experience shooting the film in London. All right. Well, yeah, blah, blah, blah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:11 So you basically, this goes back to that. Oh, this is lies. Of course, but look, it's the Andrew Garfield thing. Yeah. But worse. If he came and says, like, I would love to do TV. Think of how many great actors are on TV right now. I just haven't gotten the chance.
Starting point is 00:10:24 It's like, yeah, create something for me. I'd love to do TV. He's like, no, TV, I don't do it. I'm a film stop. I think that that's what he came up with. I just have a very particular set of skills. Let's go, let's go two ways with this. Movies, not TV.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Let's go to his. I think that all of us, all of us believe that he's full of it, right? Yes. Yes. So let's go the other way and say that he's not. Okay. Oh, Star Wars will erupt. Remember, though, the only, there is a potential that this is true, and I'll tell you why.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Okay, let's hear it. Don't forget that not too, long ago, maybe two years ago or three years ago, Liam Neeson got himself into some trouble with some really unsavory dudes. No, no, words that he says. Oh, by deciding to snitch on himself on live air. About, yeah, it was kind of a racist statement that he made. Did he?
Starting point is 00:11:11 Yeah. Yes. I missed this. It wasn't good what he said, right? But the question is, I missed this. But there are, Hollywood is also very forgiving place. You know, I mean, a lot of- Just ask Ezra Miller.
Starting point is 00:11:22 But I don't know. I know. I'm joking. I think my man needs help. You have a lot of help. But that's another conversation. But this is, this is, this is not that. This is something that whatever had happened, Hollywood's forgiving. But the question also could be. I'm just bringing. I don't think this is the case, but it could be that they, that they said, listen. Yeah, we could fit him into this role. But we could also explain it's 10 years. And maybe instead of dealing with any of the backlash of people, coming in saying anything or maybe, or I just don't really want to work with the guy. Possible. Probably. No. But possible.
Starting point is 00:12:02 It's, it's, with the way that the world is today, it's possible. But I do think it's the, I think it's the former. I think he's full of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I think he's going to be good. Yeah, because I did not, I don't remember this conversation with him that he had. So, I mean, maybe, but maybe people that industry,
Starting point is 00:12:20 industry closer. Does say a lot. It does. It does. It does say a lot, though, that it's not that you don't even know about it. Right. It wasn't, it was a big story. It was a big story, but maybe not enough that it's stuck.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Was it just an interview? He had an interview and it was talking about how he has changed the way he views race and like kind of the growth he's had in that respective. And he cited a story in which it was a different version of himself years before, I think maybe over a decade where one of his friends was assaulted and he just like went to a black neighborhood and started just like wanting to beat the crap out of anyone who was black. So he's basically saying, hey, this was being, racial bias. And I'm changing.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I've grown as an adult. That's wow. That's an adult growing and learning from their mistakes. That's something to be canceled over. But, but I think, but maybe not. Maybe a lot of people did see it that way. Maybe he was, but listen, either way. Point is, I don't, but I don't know what the deal is either way.
Starting point is 00:13:16 If that's the case, it probably, the answer to that is probably not. I think he thinks that he's made a funny. I think he's being clever. Hi, I don't do that. He's going to be like, this is the big screen now, get it. Because the other thing, by the way, is that he just did television. I want to do some improvisational comedy. You ever see him on extras?
Starting point is 00:13:34 No. But I'm not talking about Clone Wars. He just did something recently. On TV. On like Scottish television, someone just said. He's Scottish television. I guess so. He's doing television.
Starting point is 00:13:43 His movies aren't doing great. They're terrible. They're terrible. The one that I, he's now, Nicholas Cage was, and, and, um, Bruce Willis were doing like the director he's he's doing that but they're coming out on screen somehow. He just he just he this black light movie I saw recently that he did. Oh my God. And now he's got another one.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Oh my God. Now he's got another one coming out. So he had like that string in a row like honest thief, marksman. People just keep giving him the same. If you're him, take as many as you can. It's that older man. He's 65 years old. Older.
Starting point is 00:14:14 He's older. He's, he's, hey Siri, how old is Liam Neeson? No, 65. That's my secret. Yeah, he's almost 70 years old. He's 609. He loves it. He's good.
Starting point is 00:14:26 And he's still front kicking people in the face. Front kicking people in the face. Fucking push kick. Go off for you. Push kick to the front face. That's the front face. So that's, if you're him.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Can you believe it's been 13 years since taken? That's what I'm saying. That's insane. But if you're him, if you're him, if you're him, you take every time someone says, he's like, oh, we're going to do black light four? Yeah, sure. How do it?
Starting point is 00:14:47 If you're Liam Neeson, he's in that position. He's got like that De Niro. thing also where he's never going to hurt his career now. He's a legend. He can do as many of these crappy movies as he wants. And who cares he getting paid? He's like, look, you want to lose the money in the box office? I don't care.
Starting point is 00:15:03 He's surprised he's never gone the way of trying to do Oscar bait material. I don't want to say Oscar bait. He's done. I remember Rob Roy and all those things that he used to do. So he's got it in him. Of course. Like Bruce Willis was never going to be. Dude, he's almost 70 years.
Starting point is 00:15:17 I remember reading an article with Bruce Willis. He was getting upset that he wasn't getting the roles that Clooney was getting like the Syriana stuff. He just wasn't. He did Schindler's list. I know. That's what I'm saying. But that was 30 years ago.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Like why he didn't, why he didn't go down that path of like, because he just wants. That probably sucked. But that's my, but here, but this all leads back to our point here. If he's doing these types of movies.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Yeah. Right. And he's doing Blacklight and whatever the hell this movie is that's coming out and he's getting paid for it. Yeah. You're telling me that Disney Plus comes to him and says, hey man, we're going to pay you three times what you got for Blacklight to do a cameo.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Is Quine going. He's gone, no, I don't want to do it because it's TV. I'm saying, he's not a chance. Get out of here. He's doing it. He's in it. This is the worst fake ever. It's bad. Ever. It's worse than Andrew Garfield.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Well, yeah. Andrew Garfield at least seemed befuddled about it. But this is super boomer of him. You know what I mean? He's got to, though. I don't think it's boomer. What does this mean, boomer? It's you.
Starting point is 00:16:09 It's like an old dad joke. Like, I think he like. I'm a Gen X. I'm not, yeah. Prove it. Yeah. My age. It's all I can prove it how.
Starting point is 00:16:18 This is how you can, this is how you just proved your boomer. For the last three minutes, your whole face has been covered by that microphone. Thank you. How's that? Much better. It's like my dad using Skype. Man, I look like I got some son here. Yeah, you do.
Starting point is 00:16:31 It's pretty good. It's good as good as you out there. All right. Stop this. Golden tan. Stop this. So we all, we all agree. He's full of it.
Starting point is 00:16:38 He's full of it. All right. So there's no. He's got a particular set of skills. Yeah. So either way now, the stakes are higher. And I like, can't wait to see if he shows up or doesn't. It's true.
Starting point is 00:16:47 It's a good way to do it. explode and heads will roll. And if he doesn't show up, though, it's like, it is going to make me ask, like, why wouldn't you? Because the way that they explained it in the novels, yeah, was that it was 10 years after, uh, Revenge of Sith is when, yeah, no, after Revenge of the Sith is when, is when he finally connected to, oh, you want. So this takes place 10 years. So you could technically say, well, it hasn't happened yet. It's going to happen after. But aren't those books not canon anymore? No, those books are canon. Yeah. So, and, but the thing that,
Starting point is 00:17:17 it's you know there's a lot of moments like this in star wars Yoda says to Obi-Wan you're going to tattooing to learn how to do this and they still don't ever show it so I don't know I don't know all right let's get we have actually before we get into we need a lot of questions but before we do that I wanted to tell you guys Steph have been using this athletic greens yet not yet oh you need to you are going to love it I've been used I went to I started I started it not too long ago and then really needed it when I was going to San Diego. It is so, it just makes you feel so good. And I was always someone who was like not a big
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Starting point is 00:20:02 And you guys will love it too. But what I love is that you guys have been putting in your questions. Look at that logo. Look at that. Isn't it great? It makes me look like a badass. I love it. I'm so proud of myself.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Yeah. Look at that jaw on me. Jesus. It's good. Let's start with Sean Bakes. You are a model. This is more, I think this is going to be more for Mike because he's the game. Well, throw it at me.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Have you guys played the new Lego Star Wars game yet? If so, what have been your favorite parts of the game so far? I hear good things. Yeah, I, those Legos, they really did a good market on like, they had a DC one, a Marvel one, a Harry Potter one. They're fun, but it's the same thing after a while. I feel it. Yeah. I feel it.
Starting point is 00:20:39 But they've always done. I've been seeing, like, people have been posting screenshots, and they throw some great, great Easter eggs, like, Funny, funny Easter egg stuff. Like there was a spaceball reference in there. Oh, that's cool. They make it, I'll say this about the games. They make them for all ages, but if an adult planet, you're like, oh, that's pretty funny. Like a little thing.
Starting point is 00:20:58 So, yeah, but I haven't had so many, I haven't had time to play video games in so long. Yeah, some people who really love it. I haven't had a chance either, but I'm with Mike. I just haven't had a chance to do it. All right, thank you for that one. All right, here's the next one. Ronan Unchained. My question for the council is, what can we, the community of the Sith Council, do to make
Starting point is 00:21:15 sure three of you go to Star Wars Celebration. This show podcast is one of the leading places to discuss and put out Star Wars information you've earned. Well, thank you, Ron. Thank you, Ron. So it's funny that you say that. So it's a great compliment. So some updates.
Starting point is 00:21:27 As I mentioned to you guys last week on the show, I had put in from my media badge and I got denied, but I reached out to a contact over at Reed Pop who said, well, that doesn't really make sense. Let me double check. And then they went back and they said it was a mistake and I got approved for my badge. So I was approved for my media badge.
Starting point is 00:21:42 I will be there. And so Steph, and Mike came in and Steph just said I got, I got denied for my batch. I was like, okay, so I reached out to my contact today. And I'm going to check, I'm trying my hardest to make sure that, but Steph and Mike are able to get in so we can cover it together. I will definitely be there and I'm going to try my damnness to get Steph and Mike there. So I guess nothing really that you guys can do because, well, we're not going to have a panel.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I think that's going to be a thing that's unfortunate, but it's just not going to happen because you're going to get a proof for your panels. You're going to get approved for a little. while ago. Sadly, we did not. But we will be there. Maybe we can even do something where we, if the three of us go, that we can do like something live on the channel and we can have fans come up and ask questions while we're there. And that could be fun. So either way, we, like I said, I'm going to try my hardest to make sure that Steph and Mike are there with me, but I will definitely be there. But yeah, thank you guys for, for asking. Here's the next one.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Charles Buchanan the fourth. Buchanan. Buchanan. Okay. Buchanan, Buchanan, Buchanan. Buchanan. Okay. Are you concerned with Disney's fear to deal with villainous or evil main characters? Seems like it could limit story possibilities, like turning Bobafet into likable landlord from the occasional crime lord stories that we were sold on. It's a good question. It really is.
Starting point is 00:23:02 It's a good question. Oh, my, not a landlord. The landlord. I've never heard that, but it's brilliant. It really is a landlord. Holy damn. But it's, look, that's a laugh of the morning for me. So, a landlord.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Well, here's that. For every, for every thing that they did, villains in general is not fair to say, right? Because Boba Fett was never really a villain. He was a bad guy, you know, and I guess Return of the Jedi. But in his ways and the way that they turned him, I think it was extreme.
Starting point is 00:23:33 So I'm not going to, I'm not going to try to walk that back. But you look at somebody like Moth Gideon. I mean, he's about as evil as they come. Yeah. I do see what he's saying, though, because you do see like, like when the Netflix Marvel stuff came on
Starting point is 00:23:44 and they edited. it out some of those blood, some of the blood and stuff. And then they put it back. No, it was Winter Soldier. They ended it out like the blood. It was Derogel 2, wasn't it? Yeah. So you do see, and it's not wrong to think that Disney does modify their content.
Starting point is 00:23:58 And I did this recently. I was like, you know what? I went through all the streaming services. I said, look, who's got the best library? If you look at the Disney library, if you go to their movies and you click on their library, it's all Disney. I know Disney, but there's nothing like. But the new merger?
Starting point is 00:24:14 Have you seen it? recently? Like I look at HBO Max and their lineup, that's hands down the best library. No one's going to compare with HBO Macs. But I'm just saying if you look, it was like everything was like happy and colorful. I'd say a week or two ago. I feel like ever since they made it with all the Fox content and the FX content. The movies, do they have a lot of the movies here?
Starting point is 00:24:36 The Predator stuff is on HBO Max. They've like Gone Girl on Disney Plus now. No. No, I don't believe that for the second stuff. So it would make sense. They have a lot of the Fox. It depends. To answer your question,
Starting point is 00:24:47 remember, there's a licensing agreement that they probably want. Right, that's the licensing. But they'll probably start to put it on. But it just looked like. Fox,
Starting point is 00:24:53 they own. They own all Fox's library. Yeah, but then HBO has all the Predator stuff. But that's what I'm saying, those HBO probably has a license to that. They have Predator too. No.
Starting point is 00:25:01 But does, is Logan on Disney Plus yet? Let me look right now. Okay, because, I don't know about that. I've been like gas to movies, though.
Starting point is 00:25:09 It's got like apocalypse and all the other ones. Eventually, eventually, I don't know about Logan. I don't know if Deadpool's on there, though. Well, that's what I'm saying, though, is that eventually it will be. But he's not, this, Buchanan has a good point because I've seen a lot of talk about this. Do Disney, like, will we get violence and hardcore evil characters in these shows?
Starting point is 00:25:31 I mean, if you look at all the MCU stuff that the TV shows, I mean, it. Well, did you watch the latest Moon Night? I haven't. I'm three episodes in, and that show was such a disappointment to me. It's really like it. But there's something that happens in the fourth one. That's pretty brutal at one point. And I'm like, and it's like, okay, that's, there's like a horror movie element to it.
Starting point is 00:25:50 And I wonder if they will do, and I think the acolyte has a chance to really. We'll see. Because, I mean, it's called the acolyte and it's supposed to be about the sick. But then again. I don't want, I don't want the acolyte to turn good to go to this guy's point. I don't want the acolyte at the end to be to see the error of their ways. And, and then now the acolyte is, it turns to, like, light side. And it's like, that's so predictable. And it's like, let's not do them. Let's give me,
Starting point is 00:26:15 that's why I want to see a Palpatine series. That's why I want to see a Bane series. But I can understand why Disney is scared. But on the other hand, I do understand it at the end of the day, it's it for kids. It's Star Wars is for kids. And I know there's the people that want an R rating. But couldn't make that argument for Marvel? They want an R. Yeah. And I think that's why Marvel, we won't get that stuff. And I'm not saying it's wrong. I mean, we're not going to get a, we're not going to get a Star Wars version of piecemaker out there. Like some Boundy Right, right. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:42 That's not what he's saying. I know. He's just, he's just talking about like, he just wants evil and villainous instead of a landlord. But he's just talking about like, like I agree with him where with Boba Fett, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Boba Fett was. They homogenized it. Well, when you look at what he, the way he was in the Mandalorian episode. Yeah. He was great. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:58 That was the Bobafet. Like, oh, that's the Boba Fett I always wanted to see. And he's got an edge to him. And when he's fighting with Boca tan. Yeah. Great. And then what they said in a meeting probably was,
Starting point is 00:27:06 well, he's pretty much exactly like Dinn. So what if like he's with the sand people and then he sees the air of his ways and he becomes good? You're like, no, no. And that's what you did. And I think they kind of ruined Boba Fed. A lot of fans where are seeing that like, man, you had this great character and you softened him.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Like is this what we're going to do with all these hard characters? And that's what he's asked. Yeah. I don't, I don't think they're going to do that with everyone because because. Hope not. No, because look, because Dinn still has his edge. And even though Dinn went more to the good side, you can still have your edge. But he's talking about villainous or evil main characters.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I think you can just see it with Vader. You ain't going to see Vader turn around in Obi-Wan. This is Prime Vader. So we're going to see a- It's an influx situation. Yeah, yeah. All right, let's go to the next one here. I am Darth Malgus.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Do you feel like a series of movies in the old republic would be good idea instead of filming, excuse me, living themselves to a trilogy. I think that the way of the trilogy of saying, we're doing a trilogy is so old school. Yeah. And it just make a movie. Where did that come from?
Starting point is 00:28:04 I mean, Star Wars. But that was never a trilogy. Well, it was. I mean, once you got past 82, it was. But like Indiana Jones, up until that point, they were never going to make the Indiana Jones trilogy. No, but never said after Raiders, because after,
Starting point is 00:28:17 it's like a rule of three. Yeah, because after the original trilogy became so big and then Lord of the Rings, and it was like, okay, because then there was that whole. So did you think, I think maybe the Lord of the Rings was the one like, oh, let's start doing trilogies. That worked out so well.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Once you did, once you had the original trilogy of Star Wars, and then you coupled it, coupled it with, with Lord of the Rings, and then the prequel, come out. Then it was like, okay. Trilogies. Everybody's doing trilogy. I said the prequels in Lord of the Rings. It was like a pre-packaged. We know we're doing three going again. And then they just feel because it's a thing that they've done a million times over. Like now we've got to do, now we've
Starting point is 00:28:48 do seven, eight, nine. And you're like, no, you don't have to do seven, eight, nine. So I don't think you need to do a trilogy. I think trilogy is so dated. I hate that. I want nothing to do with an old republic movie stuff. I want, I wanted to go, I think you have so much more of a opportunity to do the Game of Thrones, Rome on TV. Yeah. However, if you want, and I said, if you can jumpstart a series by putting it in the theater first, like if you, like, if the first thing you ever saw from Old Republic was in the theater.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Yeah. Sure. Sign me up. Do you find anything still? No, they're not on them. They're not on them. They're not on them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Well, I mean, that's, but eventually it will be. Yeah, yeah. But see. So what do you guys think? Do you guys think that Old Republic? I like your idea of a movie kicking it off. And that like series. Do it?
Starting point is 00:29:33 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like the idea. just thinking because like what if what if you're then series you're focusing on characters that weren't as well liked in the movie maybe do the movie then see which hits and then do the spin off of the old republic's tricky me is old republic for me the way that i if anybody in the right mind would ever give me anything to do with i would what what i would do for the old republic
Starting point is 00:29:56 is start the beginning of the reven and malick and how it all kind of came to be with the with the with the Sith holocrons and all that stuff but then you set an to motion and you can you can spend seven to eight to ten seasons in the old republic because you go from that time period spend two three seasons during the time of revin and all that and then leading up to eventually whatever it is a thousand years later when when it's and this is why i equated to rome where then you have the doth bain era where for years leading up to the dark bane era you have the stuff you saw the old republic in those video games when the yeah all the sith would battle all the jett i like that time period through all that time to see that
Starting point is 00:30:36 and then realizing why can't the Sith get it done with all this power and the reason why is because they keep killing each other within because they keep craving the power to where eventually Bain comes up through the ranks and you'll full season of Bain and then Bain takes over creates the rule of two and that ultimately you can lead the series finale whenever it would be
Starting point is 00:30:53 Darth Plague is leading into probably years later. And I'll tell you why I don't think that's happening or not ever happen. Of course it won't happen. Because to those people involved in the higher ups, there's no Skywalker in that. there's no strong but they're doing high republic stuff though yeah but they think I feel
Starting point is 00:31:09 that there's a contingency I feel that it's terrified if there's not a Skywalker somehow attaching it to everything that they do I agree but I think that they're gonna they're definitely cutting those cords with they should the acolyte
Starting point is 00:31:23 and they trust it'll be there the trust will be there well that's why I think they're going so heavy into high republic and not all republic because they they went with this full launch of the of the games and the and the the books and the comic books and now the series. They're going to, and I still think we're going to get some more announcements for High Republic stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:43 They're going, they're going full in on High Republic. Okay. Good stuff. What are you going to say? Oh, yeah, they're going, I love the High Republic, but I just really enjoyed that pitch, Christian. I think that they're a little bit afraid of kind of pressing the lines of how many episodes per season. We're seeing them dip their toes in that now where they're deciding like some shows don't need as
Starting point is 00:32:03 many episodes and I like that. Yeah. But I think the movie and show mix is going to take a long time. I don't think we'll see that for like. No, probably not. But it's like, and that's why there's just so much, um,
Starting point is 00:32:16 history that they don't, that's, that's why it just drives me nuts that they have all of that material of the, the Revin stuff, the Malick stuff, the old Republic stuff, the Darth Bain stuff leading into the acolyte that leads into Plague.
Starting point is 00:32:30 I mean, they have so much that they could, they, they could be set for 10 to, 15 years if they went down that route. But they just don't go after it. It's weird when they decide they're going to be like dark or light. Because I feel like in Clone Wars,
Starting point is 00:32:42 there's some really dark parts that if they adapted it into live action, I don't know if they would. Do you know what I mean? I feel like they get away with more on the animated version. Like the stuff with Darth Mall and his brother, Savage is so they're just like killing everyone on every planet. But they don't really, yeah, I feel like, I don't know. I think that they could do that with the acolyte.
Starting point is 00:33:08 They could go dark. I hope they do, man. I'm telling you, I am a little, I heard myself say it before and I'm actually terrified of it that they're going to make the acolyte turn good at the end. Like, it's not everybody needs to turn good. It'll happen. I bet she it's going to happen. Like the acolyteleid realizes the error of the waves.
Starting point is 00:33:26 And it's like, uh-oh, wait a minute. Oh, maybe I should be a Jedi. And it's like, no. No. Be a sick. No. No. You know what's interesting, though, when I was in London, I was in a, met like these group of guys.
Starting point is 00:33:39 They were talking about Star Wars. They were talking about Boba Fett series. I said, oh, you guys watched the Boba, or what are you guys talking about? And they were like, oh, so a bunch of dudes. And did you school them within seconds? I don't want to hear this. I literally was like, what are you guys talking about? They're like, oh, just Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:33:58 And I was like, yeah, what about it? And they're like, Boba Fet. And then I was just like, sit down, young lady. Let me show you the world. Wait, take, stop cutting this story. I'm interjecting, not cutting her off. She's in the middle of this London story where she used her Sith Council powers. Yeah, I went in.
Starting point is 00:34:14 I think they all subscribed to the channel by the end of my conversation. But what was interesting is that once they got past the fact that women can like Star Wars and know more than them, they liked Boba Fed. They were like, I get what you're saying, I get what people were saying, but we were just so happy to get anything that was Boba. Yeah. Or Star Wars in general. Yeah, or Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:34:34 That's the thing. I don't dislike that series either. I like that series. I do. I think that there is, I know you don't, but I think that there's, there are things that, and I understand that other people don't. I don't like the way the Bobafet was handled, but I love the way that, I mean, and I know that people have the whole argument against it, but when Din and Luke and everything,
Starting point is 00:34:52 like those are some of the best Star Wars, Star Wars material that we've gotten so far. I agree on those episodes. Whenever you argue or not, whether it should have been there or not, you still got it. And then, you know, anyway, it's a whole other conversation. Excuse me. Bless you. So my point of this is, what I would say when I was interrupted you, was the fact that if I'm at a bar with some dudes talking Star Wars
Starting point is 00:35:11 and a hot chick like you comes up. And no such stuff. No Star Wars. I'm like, young lady, come on up and have a seat. I think that's exactly. It seems like that's exactly what happened. But they're like, you know about Star Wars. At first, it's like, okay, let's see, let's see what you think you know.
Starting point is 00:35:27 I don't care if you didn't know any. I don't care if you didn't know anything. about Star Wars. I don't think they were they being dicks to you. I'd be like yes young lady come out here let's talk Star Wars. Were they were they being dicks or they were being kind of that kind of sentence? The only at first like it was the way that they like thought there was no world in which I was interested in the conversation. And you know more about them in five minutes than they would know about you. Good for you step. Good for you. That's awesome. All right. Let's move. Let's keep moving on. We'll do uh, we have we have a lot of questions. I hope that I can get to it to all them. Maybe
Starting point is 00:35:55 you better get to all them. Watch your mouth. Ash prowls at cheers though. Chances of any kind of Ray spin-off, Disney didn't realize that Yellow Lightaber to only show it once. Oh, I get a release. Oh, no, I, you know what? He wrote release and I said, realize. And you did realize.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I know. I realized that I said it wrong. Because I just put my glasses on. So thank you. I 100% think there's more Ray stuff coming. I think to a generation. And someone on Twitter made a great point about this. They said, us kids now that are loving Ray,
Starting point is 00:36:25 we were you guys that love the prequels, that are now, championing Hayden like hey you guys are all wrong he's awesome in 10 15 years these kids are going to grow up with Ray are going to be embracing Ray and everyone all of us would be like
Starting point is 00:36:41 oh Ray's great now I think Ray is I think Ray is similar to I mean yes there are those people who you'd call on a Mary Sue whatever it is to it but I mean but the majority of people that watch those movies that whether you like them dislike them can admit that Daisy Ridley was awesome in that
Starting point is 00:36:58 The cast was great. She was awesome in that role. She was great. She was great. I do think we'll see her again, but I agree with you. I don't think we're going to see her until she's like 40. She's like, she just turned 30. So she's going to be like 40.
Starting point is 00:37:10 A wise ray. 10 years in the future when we find out like she's finally, actually someone does start a Jedi Academy and someone doesn't burn it down. And it's not the same. Someone turns and all the same crap that we've seen a million times over. That's a great thing. You show her being a competent teacher. And she's running it.
Starting point is 00:37:28 And it's and the jubon. Jedi order is back and up and running and whether there's another, there's Sith or Sith Army that comes out, or something else, right? Whatever it might be. To have her come back, let her sit on it for a while, Daisy Ridley. She probably still, remember, it was a brutal time for that cast. All of them. All of them.
Starting point is 00:37:48 They were, like, it's like they got into Star Wars thinking that they were going to, like, it was just like this fun, embrace the thing. And it was like politics. And just seeing the love of Force Awakens, the, lead up to it. Like the cast photo of everyone. Oh, I'm doing this forever.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Can you imagine? And all three of them are now like, Oscar, I said, I did Star Wars. Nope. Now I don't want to go to the MCU. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:38:10 come on, it's going to be okay. Finn's like, nope, not doing that anymore. They'll all change the tune when it comes to, like,
Starting point is 00:38:15 when you look at, like, you can't blame them. You can't blame them. But take the prequels also, the same thing that happened with the prequel. Oh,
Starting point is 00:38:23 poor Abed, I'm at best. But, but Hayden Christensen probably wanted nothing to do with Star Wars forever. Yeah. Probably want to say,
Starting point is 00:38:29 you know what? I never want to go near that thing again. And now, and that's... And I remember, too, when he showed up at celebration in 2019. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:35 It was like the king returned. Yeah. It was like the king returned. And there was a time... You have to remember, these kids, they grow up. The kids that love the prequels, like the Ace Cabrera,
Starting point is 00:38:44 and I talked to him. And they start to become the majority. Ace Cabrera was the you and I of the old trilogy. And they start to become the majority. And they become louder. And that's why... Matthew Kearns. Yeah, so look,
Starting point is 00:38:54 all of it, man. So, all right, let's, let's move on. Before we do, actually, I also want to tell you guys, if you didn't know, and now you do, where the hell is it? Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh, where is it? The thumbnail of you. I'm trying to, you like that one?
Starting point is 00:39:08 I don't know. I can't find it. I see that Christian a lot. In college. It's true. I can't. Throwing pens. All right.
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Starting point is 00:40:34 coinbase.com slash big thing. Link is in the description. All right. Let's get to the next question. Next question on the docket, ladies and gentlemen. And it is. We did that one already. Sassy All right Jason Ward for making Star Wars who breaks scoops all of the time
Starting point is 00:40:59 How do you feel about the state of Star Wars in 2022 And where are you at it? Oh excuse me And where are you at with it? All right. So
Starting point is 00:41:08 I like where we're at in 2020 With Star Wars A lot actually As I said You're gonna get I would much rather Have Star Wars series That come out
Starting point is 00:41:19 That if somebody doesn't like There are certainly things about BobaFed that you can watch and love. There are certainly things that you cannot. Yeah. It came out. It was, it finished over like two or three months ago. And now two,
Starting point is 00:41:32 three months later, we're now, our focus is attention to, oh, we want, right? And I've said this many times over as opposed to sitting in a, in, oh,
Starting point is 00:41:40 that wasn't what I wanted, Disney messed it up again, or whatever you feel about it. And then I've got to wait three years for another thing. You wait three months. And now you like this. If you don't like the TV stuff and you're not like it, if you don't like me,
Starting point is 00:41:50 Indelorian and you don't like Boba Fett and you don't like Gobi 1, it's not going to be for you. Right. And maybe, you know, you just then go back and watch the original trilogy or the prequels, whatever you like. And they're there for that. And I love the state of that. I think that now, if someone's like, well, what are you thinking about the state of the movies? To me right now,
Starting point is 00:42:06 the state of the movie is just so non-existent. Yeah. It's like they'll make an announcement about it and maybe it gets canceled. Maybe it happens. Who the hell knows? I don't care because I have stuff that I'm watching right now in Star Wars. I love this state. I actually think that 2020 Star Wars for me is the most happy I've been with Star Wars in years because Force Awakens,
Starting point is 00:42:27 as we've mentioned here on this show. When it came out, everybody was hyped, excited to go. You watch it. People loved it. But when you watch it now, it's, it's kind of depressing because you know where it kind of leads afterwards. And there was no plan. There seems to be a plan. And I'm in, I'm in for it. It's hard with the films to distance yourself now from the, the world view of those films. Like, it's hard to just sit. Like, the prequels I can watch, and I love them more and more than more.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Because there was a plan. There was a plan for those movies. Like, I've really had a rekindled love of the Phantom Menace. But with these films, there's such a disdain to them. It's like if I ever tried to go back and watch the 2017 Justice League. It's just there's... As opposed to what, as opposed to Zach Snyders. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Like that I can watch just fine and enjoy. It's just knowing. knowing the drama that went along with this film. I can't watch it without that. But the Star Wars film is like, for the TV show is like, I love where we are. You like it to state where we're at right now.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I love the fact. And it's hard because there's some stuff that comes on TV. Like I don't want to, I guess I'll say it, like in the MCU, where it just doesn't feel the same as a movie. And I'm saying that from a visual standpoint or a production quality.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Yeah. Like agents of shield, that show felt like a television show. Yeah. And some of the Marvel still still. feels like that. Some doesn't. It's weird. So I don't know if it's a cinematography thing with who they've got working on it. But Star Wars, no matter who's behind the camera, feels like it's still part of Star Wars. And I know it's a weird thing to talk about and a weird thing to feel. But you like where we are, I've stated. I do because I can pop on an episode that I love.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Yes. I love it. The thought of me laying in bed with my big TV in front of me in Obi-1 series. Oh my, here we go. And I can watch it from my home, Obi-1, as the series. I feel like I'm just as excited as Force Awakens. Yeah, I mean, same. And that's why I think that I love, absolutely love we're at. And I think that after celebration, there's going to be a lot of new announcements. And that's not even including the stuff that they've done with the comic books and the video games that they're announcing. Yeah, the books are great right now too.
Starting point is 00:44:36 A lot of stuff that they're doing, I think that's really good. But as far as the state of Star Wars, just as a medium, I think that it was a very, very smart move for them to pull back. back that plan of doing a Star Wars movie a year because they just didn't have a hold on it. And then once they got a hold of TV and they're like, okay, well, we can knock these things out and we can put like, not just one out of a year. We can put like three or four of them out of a year. And people are hyped up about them. Like the hype that they're going to get between Boba Fett this year that they already had, Mandalorian this year, and or Obi-Wan, I mean, And then you're going to get Asoka and acolyte and more.
Starting point is 00:45:16 And then who knows what the hell they're going to announce? Who knows? Who knows? So I'm, I'm very, this is, this to me is the most exciting time in Star Wars. Because it's stuff that I, I care more about the lore than there's people. There are people, and I don't give, I don't give anybody crap for this. People that like to go to watch Star Wars in the theater because they like the spectacle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:38 And they like watching the ships and the big battles. And that's not why I love Star Wars. I love Star Wars for the overall lore and the mythology and the philosophy and all that stuff. And yeah, that's a good point, man. I think that transfers over better on television than it does because you, because when you try to condense that into two hours, it's tough. Here's a great thing then to what I feel and how I kind of put it together. Like for the MCU, some shows work great as TV shows.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Yeah. But like Moon Night, I would have, I think as a movie would have been so much better for me. Star Wars is hitting. They know what works like. I don't want to see a manual or a movie. Right. Some people do, but I don't.
Starting point is 00:46:15 I don't. That's the thing. And season finale or series finale maybe. Whoever's at Disney that's doing like Filoni, if it's him that's doing this, they know like, so I like what they're doing. They're not trying to cram these shows in a,
Starting point is 00:46:30 you know, like Book of Bobafit or Bobafo was going to be a movie. As much I didn't care for the show, I think it worked so much better as a TV show. Yeah, because again, the more, sorry stuff, go ahead. No, I just completely agree. with that. I think that
Starting point is 00:46:42 Disney, that they're, all of these networks are going to, Marvel and Star Wars are going to have to decide. Yeah. I think now most days and most times when I think of a story, I am thinking this is going to be a better show than movie. Yeah. But there are the times, I think that's a good point with Moon Knight that
Starting point is 00:46:59 I think that movie could have rocked. Yeah. It didn't need to be as explored. But with Star Wars characters, I really want to walk with them and live with them. All right. Here's a question for you and for the people listening to this. What do you guys feel about a movie? movie, but a movie just for streaming that doesn't get a theatrical release, but they do a two-hour I love that. I love that.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I love it. Spectacle that people want the spectacle or is it they just need that? Because I'll be honest. Seeing the Batman on the big screen with the Dolby Prime Theater with that scene. Like that's incredible. You know, and I would not have wanted to see that for the first time on TV. There's a, look, but you also got to let's, and then shift towards the business side of it. Yeah, yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:47:37 And the business side of it is where you got to understand. And even myself who has said many times over, I don't care if I ever see Star Wars again in the theater. Right. I understand why that is a stupid thing to do if you're at Lucasfilm to listen to that because you need to make money where, yes, streaming, you make more series, more money will come in through streaming,
Starting point is 00:47:58 but the big fish is getting that $1 billion from people going to see your movie, but you got to make sure that you do it right and have a plan. And that's been the problem, right? They've done it, and they've done it with, I just think that they don't want to get into that place and why they've been so kind of gun-shy right now about, because they have those, all their movies got either billion dollars
Starting point is 00:48:22 or close to it. Yeah. But you didn't have that same kind of like love that you had during Mandalorian. Yeah. Right. And or even Force Awakens. Like after, because obviously Last Jedi has the extreme haters and extreme lovers.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Yeah. Rise of Skywalker. Same thing. It's just a bunch of. cotton candy and either either said, okay, well, fine, I just got a sugar rush off of it, or you freaking hate it.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Yeah. Right. There's not that kind of collective, um, bonding that has been over these series. And I think that's because you have, you just have more time to develop it. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:55 But I don't know. We'll, we'll see what, especially a great point was Mandalorian. Like the episodes were so varied. Yeah. If you didn't like one, you could like the next one.
Starting point is 00:49:03 And you only had a week to wait. Right. That was like, if you didn't like the Bill Burr, you know, his thing. on a spaceship. It was so bad. Kind of like a haunted house
Starting point is 00:49:11 on a spaceship. Then the next episode you got a completely different one. That's the advantage that TV has over film. I mean, tremendously. Because if you...
Starting point is 00:49:18 As opposed to being stuck in the same tone for three years. Yeah. Or two years, whatever it was, it's like, because regardless of what you think of The Last Jedi, that caused, I mean,
Starting point is 00:49:27 a lot of arguments and fights between people for two years. For two years. It changed the landscape of the Star Wars fandom forever. That one guy, someone tweeted his quote out, back when they got Star Wars back in like 2014 or something. It's like, we see a Star Wars film every year for the foreseeable future. He's like, oh, this didn't age well.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Well, that was also before streaming. But all right, let's keep going. I know. I know. Jesus. Yeah, there's no way we're going to get to all these questions. But we've got a lot of them. Well, we'll see him for next time.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Beard face. My theory for Obi-Wan's rapid physical aging between episode three and four is that it could be a result of the process to become a force ghost. I love this. I find the idea of living on after death being achieved by sacrifice your physical self, an interesting one. What are your thoughts on this? I love this.
Starting point is 00:50:14 I really do love this. I just don't think there's a chance in hell that they do it. But I think they're just going to be a force ghost. No, it's him. It's him learning the process through. So that when he eventually does die. Because that's what Yoda tells him. Yoda tells him, go there and learn how to do it.
Starting point is 00:50:27 And when he finally figures it out, that's why I think that the Liam Neeson thing has to be a lie because if they are working, if he's working on that with Liam Neeson throughout the series, And then when you go and you watch episode four, it's going to play so much more than it ever has more. Because look at, like, you know what? I just started, we're doing a rewatch of like Dr. Strange right now.
Starting point is 00:50:49 And I remember seeing Dr. Strange going, I liked it, but there's so much that has happened now in Marvel with multiverse and things that at the time when it, when the first movie came out, it wasn't as relevant as it is now. And I'm picking so many more things up watching it that I like it even more so. And I feel the same would be said if you started to do it. do that kind of thing. And if they added that,
Starting point is 00:51:10 like it takes your toll. The only problem with that is that what happened to Uncle Owen. Because Uncle Owen got pretty old quick too. Yeah. I think they just need to explain. It's the son and Tatouin. You got two sons.
Starting point is 00:51:21 You're sitting out there. No SPF. Where they both go through him, Baru and, and Obi-Wan go through like an age rap. Something happens. Something comes to spell. They shouldn't even call to it.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Yeah. They're not even going to address it. But I like the idea. Yeah. Yeah. The idea is awesome. But I just know. I don't think they're going to address it.
Starting point is 00:51:38 but it's a good one. Michael Kennedy. Is Liam Neeson the new Andrew Garfield with his quote? Yeah, he definitely is for sure. Jay MacArthur, will soak up here in Canobi? Did he know she survived Order 66? I would assume that he knows.
Starting point is 00:51:54 And I don't think she's showing up, though. No. I don't think so. I think that because if she does... It becomes Mandalorian and Boba Fett type thing. It just becomes the show. Yeah. It becomes the mission of the show becomes...
Starting point is 00:52:06 I mean, and if it doesn't, it's just kind of, oh, you're alive? Okay, cool, we got to work together to her. Oh, no, you can't help me? Okay, because remember, she doesn't find out about Vader for sure. Yeah. Until Rebels. Yeah. Because, like, she kind of knows and that doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:52:19 And then once she shows up, there's like that realization when she senses him and then she's got to fight him. Yeah. I think that the way that that's handled in Rebels is pretty, pretty fantastic. I wouldn't want to see that messed with. I would much rather see the development with her and Luke in her series. Me too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Yeah. Anybody. So, no, everybody agrees? No, I think there's too many characters in Opio and one story.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Yeah, I don't think that she's going to show up in this one. Sock 99. Did you hear that they're doing Star Wars Vision Season 2? Are you excited? If you would have asked me this question
Starting point is 00:52:51 a year ago, I would have told you, no, I don't care. Who cares? It's not, it's not canon. I'm not a big anime fan. I can't wait for this to come out.
Starting point is 00:53:00 I love. They're not canon? No. No. I love, I don't like that. It's just too, it's too hard for where it lands.
Starting point is 00:53:06 They wanted to give them complete creative control. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's fantastic. Yeah. I loved that series so much. And Steph was trying to push me to watch it for so long. She was going to like it. I'm like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:20 I don't know. It's not really my style, man. And I loved it. It's fire. Yeah, it's actually probably what I've been rewatching the most, like when I'm putting on background, Star Wars content. Yeah, it's so good. You haven't seen it yet?
Starting point is 00:53:35 I haven't. You should, I'll give you three to watch at least. Okay. Yeah. You told me your title. What? You told me. I don't want to see if you can guess.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Okay, wait. Do it again. You told me your title. You told me you're a Kyle. You told me your Kyle. I want to know. I'll give you a hint. Is it from a movie or TV show?
Starting point is 00:54:02 What's it from? I'll give you a hint of what the guy says. It's something that an Inner Geeksum competitor would say to you. You told me your title. You show me your title. You show me your title. You show me your title. You show me your title.
Starting point is 00:54:24 What's that for? Is it like a... It's a documentary called High on Crack Street. Okay. And that explains it. You told me your title. Although that guy is not a cracket. He was a, he was just a fall down alcoholic.
Starting point is 00:54:37 But he's incapacitated trying to say, show me your title. No, if you watch Collider Live, you'll understand. Anyway, so let's move on. I don't even know where that came from. You told me your title. Sorry. Legendary. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Here we go. Noah Shcherbakov. What canon content do you now keep up with? Do you still read the books, comics, or any other content? So I just got, what the hell's the one that I just got sent in the mail that I might actually read because I think that there's going to be something in it because they they never really embargo you for these novels and this one is embargoed oh and this is the um you told me your title no it's me my head all day today thanks for you told me your title so star wars brotherhood is that it's
Starting point is 00:55:28 it's a mission that anakin and obi won't are on together and i wonder how much of it ties in if anything to what we're about to see. So I haven't been reading a lot of stuff at all because of that reasoning, right? I just felt for a long time, as you guys know, on Jedi Council, I would read all the books, all the comics, thinking that either they were going to make a series off of something or tie something in. And they take snippets of it now, a little bit more so than they ever used to. But I just felt like there was, and this is not to take away from anybody who reads these books and reads anything. You should.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Because some people very rightfully say, well, you shouldn't just read it just so it ties in. You should read it because you just enjoy reading what you're reading. And I don't disagree with you there. It's just why I wasn't.
Starting point is 00:56:15 It's not why I was doing it. Right. I was going to be like Catalyst. When Catalyst was such a great book. Yeah. Is that Claudia Gray? No, that was James Lucino. Same guy who wrote,
Starting point is 00:56:25 who wrote Darth Plague. Your favorite book. And there was so much lead up and so much history with Krenick and Erso that I knew it enriched the movie for you. It did, but I still felt cheated because it was like, I wish there would have been a reference to it in a little bit, like something that I read in the book would have been referenced in the movie. In the movie, something specifically.
Starting point is 00:56:51 I love that and I don't think they do it enough. Yeah, right, because, and I'll say this, there's zero in most things, zero, what's this called? Connection between like the movies and books. A lot of times movies are like, we're the movies. Stay away. You got your little novel thing.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Okay, you do that over there. We're not, we know what we're doing on the movie. Right. We're just like, no, the fans want that. You would have loved an Easter egg that 99% of the audience
Starting point is 00:57:19 would have been like, okay. It's hard for them. I mean, look, they did it for your boy in Timothy Oliphant. You know, he came from the books. So they do that stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Right. When I asked Faloni about it years ago, Two buds. No. It was an interview that I have with him. But he was, but he was, um, he was pretty open about it. Like there's, I, for him, I'm pretty sure that TV and film, to him, that's canon. He'll take stuff and he'll play with stuff in the novels and of those things.
Starting point is 00:57:48 But he doesn't pay attention to it as much as he does the TV. And I get it. I just think that it's a disservice. Yeah, it's a disservice, but it's, as an author myself. Yes. You know, look at you. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:58:00 We have, we can do like a couple. more at Mario Luigi I love that It's me, Luigi Amadio. Will Osoka talk to Obi-Wan about what happened to Anakin in the new show? Probably not. It's the same one. Yeah, I don't.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Yeah, it's the same. It just becomes more. Yeah, not the story that they're telling it and trying to enrich it more. Trevor at Trevor Washick. Celebration tips. So you've never been to celebration. Never have.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Okay, so we definitely go get you. Have you been to celebration and stuff? No. Oh, wow. Okay, we really got to get you. you guys. Oh, wow. I know. I really want to go. I'm shocked. I'm shocked. You told me your title. So if, um, okay, so celebration tips. Look, it's my, the reason why it's my favorite is I mentioned
Starting point is 00:58:44 last time to Mike is that with Comic Con, which I enjoy very much so, San Diego Comic Con, but like when you walk on the floor of San Diego Comic Con, you can go through stretches of looking over it stuff and going, oh, that's not as much. I don't, that doesn't interest me. That does, oh, there's Batman. I'll go look at the Batman stuff. Yeah. Star Wars. It's everywhere. When you're walking on the floor, it's just, you're just in Star Wars heaven for four days. And it's,
Starting point is 00:59:08 and my favorite thing about it is like, I would say, because a lot of times with Comic-Con now, for me, I don't walk the floor as much anymore because that's, Mike loves to do that. It's my thing.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Yeah, I don't do that as much. I like, for me, it's going to the parties and those things. Party up. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:59:22 and the panels. Like, that's what I like Comic-Con for. But Star Wars celebration, I say, for Star Wars fans, do it all because this is one of my favorite things that you'll do. Like,
Starting point is 00:59:29 I actually really want to go with Steph because I could see her as like a little 10-year-old. When you're walking through the floor, it'll stop and a parade comes through of all the cosplay with the music blasting in the background and all the Boba Fets and all the Mandalrians and all the Twylex and all the Vaders. They're all like are all walking together.
Starting point is 00:59:52 And it's like, and then you turn. I remember being, this is exactly what happened to me one year. And I was on the floor and then I turned. And then I was in this dilemma. of not spending the last of my money on a Jedi robe as I look to the right and I'm like, wait, and I have a Sith robe instead.
Starting point is 01:00:07 And then I turn around inside and then there's a lightsaber. And then there's a Darth Bain figure. I'm like, oh my God, I mean, it's like you could go broke within three seconds. But it's great. And then the panels, the energy inside of the panels, it's like, go to the panels that you want to go to. The big massive panels
Starting point is 01:00:21 where you're going to get all the news and the trailers and all that stuff. But they also have the other panels, like the Clone Wars panels and things like that. Let me ask you this then with panels. Do they do what Comic Con does where it's like you, You've got to get into the room in the morning.
Starting point is 01:00:33 And if you want your panel, it's the 5 o'clock panel, you've got to sit there all day. Because that stuff sucks at Comic-Con. It's awful. And I want to say this is not like, for media, you don't have to do that. Yeah, you're special. I know you're not special. I know. You're there to cover it.
Starting point is 01:00:49 They want you to see it. Yeah, of course. I get it. Yeah. But yes, you got to wait on the line. You got to get there. This guy, Hall-Aged Comic-Con. He's like, can ask you, where you at?
Starting point is 01:00:58 I'm like, I'm trying to get into the dims. Like, oh, we're inside already. I was like, yeah, I've been inside since 2 o'clock last night outside. But that was, on the lawn. He's like, oh, you should have told me. I would have got you. And I was like, that was dumb. Thanks, numb nuts.
Starting point is 01:01:09 No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. You should, you should, I don't need to text you. Yeah, use your resources. Yeah. Say, hey, could you get. I don't try and pull my weight. You're a dumb.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I enjoy, I enjoy sitting in the lines, too. I like that. You know what you should do. You tell me your title. I will show you. You should bring the title. Yeah, that'll get me about nothing. Probably not.
Starting point is 01:01:28 All right, let's do one. We'll do two more, two more. All right, yeah, come on. Hey, we've got to get Dagan, S-Pro. Do you think we'll ever get a Star Wars What-if Disney Plus show? Ooh, I love that so much. I think. Maybe, hold on, maybe what would have happened if Maul killed Quigon and Obi-Wan?
Starting point is 01:01:42 Um, and Obi-Wan, wait, but Maul did kill Quigon. And Obi-Wan, he said, oh, and-O-B-W. Oh, and O'S see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it. I see it.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Call-Gy-Gon and then dual-fates explanation. Yeah. Um, that would be, that would be something. That would be something. I think Marvel did a series of comics around the time they did the Marvel What-Ips. I think they did a Star Wars. They actually did it before. Way before.
Starting point is 01:02:06 That's what I'm saying back in the 80s. Oh yeah, back in the 80s. Yeah, yeah. Riley. Back when What-if? Is that when it came out? Yeah. So Riley.
Starting point is 01:02:11 I think they did. Riley actually, I know that they did a What-F series for sure. Yeah. Riley showed it to me. That's a phenomenal idea. It's great. And there's so many, like the one that I really want to see is what if Leah went to to Tatooine and Luke went to Alderone.
Starting point is 01:02:25 Oh. Like that would be great. That's a great one. The other one is what if one of Anakin didn't turn? You know, what if, what if, what if,
Starting point is 01:02:34 what if, what if, what if, what if Mace Windoo would have killed Palpatine? Um, there's so many, there's so many different ones that, that,
Starting point is 01:02:38 that they do it, that, that they do it. Oh, I think they're gonna do it. I think it would, I think it would, like an animated series type of,
Starting point is 01:02:44 yeah, oh, I would love to do that. You know, you kidding me? Great. Come on. Did you want to see it stuff?
Starting point is 01:02:50 Yeah, but I think, not as much. No. No. But what if actually matters for Marvel? So I think if we opened up a multiverse and then you want it. No, no, no, no, no, Star Wars.
Starting point is 01:03:06 I don't think you should have to say. The only time I would be very interested is if it connected or else it's like, what if. Keep your universe out of Star Wars. Isn't that funny? There's a conversation on it. So, Mike, when it comes to time travel and Star Wars, yeah or nay. No.
Starting point is 01:03:19 You know so funny about that? No. I know. Most people. But I don't time travel. No multiverse. I don't want to see Tom Cruise popping up as Luke Skywalker in some alternate universe of casting.
Starting point is 01:03:27 But let me ask you this, though, because when it comes to Star Wars, even though I happen to agree with you when it comes to Star Wars. You damn right, you do. However, don't. Don't you think that in Star Wars, it makes more sense due to time travel than anything else? Absolutely. Absolutely. I think it does. And multiverse.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Sure. That makes 100% more sense. It makes so much more sense. But we're down those paths already. We've just done it too many times. The road. Yeah. It becomes an easy device.
Starting point is 01:03:51 The plane is taken off. Yeah. Yeah. I know. My fear with the multiverse in the MCU is so. great. Like, I hope to get at the end of Strange, it's closed off. They find a way to close up the universe and it's done. Because for me, it's going to be like cameo central from, like, every poster I see for
Starting point is 01:04:08 the movies now, it's got 15 characters on it instead of the main character. I'm like, this multiverse, I want them to close it off and be done with it. I'm already over it. Too much money in it. I know. All right. Let's do, uh, we got, let's see. I know.
Starting point is 01:04:21 I think we're done. This is it. Ryan Field. Do you think we'll see any adaptation of Star Killer in live action? I think that would. would be a good holy bleep moment for Obi-One if they had Sam Whitwer show up as the famous video game character,
Starting point is 01:04:32 maybe he's an inquisitor. I don't think if he shows up and he's going to be Star Killer. I still think that Sam Wittwer, where one way or another will show up as a live action character in a Flonie series.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Absolutely. He absolutely will. He's like his rabbit's foot. He's like his lucky charm of Star Wars. I mean, he's already, he's really done them all voice a bunch of times. He's done other things too. He'll be around.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Me too. I don't know if Star Killer has a purpose anymore from the way, the story that they told back then. I love it, but I just don't know if they had it. I could be, like that video game was, that was a great game. Did they do a second, fortunately, yeah, I didn't like it. Okay, yeah, it didn't hit, right, it didn't hit as well
Starting point is 01:05:12 as the first one. The first one was so damn good. So I want more Star Wars games than that vein. But do you think we'll see Star Killer? Star Killer, not same way. No, because the games told his story, I think. Yeah. Yeah. We'll show up, but I don't think. Think. Steph?
Starting point is 01:05:28 See him? No? No. All right. This is fun. There's so many questions we're off on the table. I'll have to do some more. Let's save them more.
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