The Kristian Harloff Show - Is Lucasfilm Handling The Marketing For The Mandalorian And Grogu Correctly?!

Episode Date: February 9, 2026

Is Lucasfilm dropping the ball on marketing The Mandalorian & Grogu movie?!  In this episode of The Kristian Harloff Show, we dive deep into the controversial Big Game Spot that just aired during the... Super Bowl — a quirky homage to classic ads featuring Mando and Grogu dashing through the snow with Tauntauns. Is this the right move to build hype for the May 22 theatrical release, or is it too light and parody-heavy when fans are craving more epic Star Wars action?We also break down:The teaser for "The Adventures of Cliff Booth" that surprised everyone during the Big Game How "Masters of the Universe" is fully leaning into its silly, fun side Why the box office stumbled hard over Super Bowl weekend The new Marvel Punisher Special Presentation title nodding back to the Infinity Saga era What do you think — is Lucasfilm handling The Mandalorian & Grogu marketing correctly, or do they need a bigger push? Drop your thoughts in the comments! SPONSOR: FACTOR: Head to https://www.factormeals.com/kristian50off and use code kristian50off to get 50 percent off and free breakfast for a year. Eat like a pro this month with Factor. 

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Man, so many details about the new Mandalorian and Groga movie. Big three-minute trailer. Got everything we know exactly what the movie is going to be about. People are hyped, psyched up to see what this movie is going to be about Lucasfilm. Killing it at the Super Bowl. Right. The Adventures of Cliff Booth. Man, oh man.
Starting point is 00:00:23 That one looked pretty good. Box office stuff. Other things. Myself and John Roke discussing that. and more on the show here today. So let's get into it, everybody. Let's go. Did you shit in there?
Starting point is 00:00:48 I didn't, but Lucasfilm did. Ladies and gentlemen, joining me on the show every Monday. John, how are you, sir? What's up, everyone? I'm still dancing from the halftime show. What's up, buddy? How are you doing? How are they having?
Starting point is 00:01:02 Dude, I mean, look, so I was already, I mean, first of all, my legs are killing me. Let's tell you that. Leg day, bro. Oh, dude, today was rough. Never skipped leg day. Today was rough. So I was so glad because the whole rumors of what was going on with the trailers and everything else.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Oh, yeah. Right. You know, Avengers, Doomsday was supposed to happen. And then Spider-Man and all this. And then really like, okay. When then they started to say, no, that's not going to happen. I was like, because I was originally, I was going to drive from my place to my office and I was going to do reactions. And I'm like, wait a minute, this isn't 2020.
Starting point is 00:01:42 12 anymore. They don't treat the Super Bowl in this way because the amount of money that they charge for, the little dinky spots. No one's really getting excited for the stuff. So I ain't doing it. I don't think I'm going to take the risk. And I was right. Yeah. Because what a wet fart of trailers. Overall, no excitement whatsoever from anything. The Cliff Booth thing was pretty good. That was fun. Yeah. That was the standout trailer of the night. And then of course, before the Super Bowl, they released the Supergirl 50-second trailer and then the Project Hail Mary final trailer. But they released those before the Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:02:17 really smartly to get people excited about it ahead of time. Yeah. Right. And that's the major, that is the major point. What you just said right there was to try to get people excited beforehand. And I am telling you more so we've been discussing this. I think, and I'm telling you, I don't think Dave Filoni and Star Wars and I don't think they think they have a problem.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I don't think that they think that there is an issue. I think that they're still acting as if Star Wars is the hot property that it used to be. And they're like, oh, it's just a cute little thing. We're going to do this Budweiser thing. And everybody knows the movie's coming out. No one knows that this movie is coming out. And it was, let's get into this first. Let's just talk about this story.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Because I was so, I was, dude, I was so confused. When this thing popped up, I didn't even know that it was, I thought it was a legit commercial at first. And I look up, wait a minute. So that I didn't. didn't even think. I was like, oh, all right, this thing's over. I'm like, now I'm going to go and I'll watch the trailer and I'll talk about it tomorrow because they're going to drop the trailer. And then no trailer comes out. And Luke texts me and he goes, what the hell was that? I'm like, that's it. I'm like, that's all that they did. So here's, here's the story.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Sorry. Sorry. Okay. The Mandalorian and Grogo. So yesterday, they dropped this thing. Lucasfilm Disney had premiered the Super Bowl spot for John Favreau's new Star Wars film, Mandelarian and Grogo. Project was initially conceived as a fourth season until the strikes in 2023 led to the season being retooled as its film. A new version of the Razor Kress Chip will appear in the film. The first big screen outing for Star Wars since 2019. Film throughout the last third of 2024.
Starting point is 00:04:05 The film sees Pedro Piscala reprising his role as Din Darjean, I always say it wrong, and is joined by Sigourney Weaver as Ward, veteran. pilot for the rebel alliance and now colonel who leads new republics adelphi rangers got a lot out of that spot also starring our jeremy ellen white as rhod of the hut the son of the crime lord job of the hut and johnny coin as a warlord controlling some of the remnants of the empire um all right and this is this is the thing that they showed i'm not going to show this um am i wrong or they like they are completely dropping the ball in the marketing here this is this is this is a This was horrible.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah, when this play during my live watch long last night of the Super Bowl, I said the same thing as I was watching. I was like, there's an unearned confidence to this spot that I just do not understand. Like I think you're so right, Christian. They're living in some fantasy land where they're like, everyone's on board with us. Everyone's excited. Everyone's happy to see it. Now we're going to make a little funny little aside.
Starting point is 00:05:04 But you all know what we're talking about. And we'll get Sam Elliott who do the voice of voice. Wasn't it Jeff Bridges? I think it was Sam. I think it was Sam Elliott. Maybe he was Jeff Bridges. I don't know. I was old bad either way.
Starting point is 00:05:15 But like when it was done, you were like, what, do you, what, what was the logic of any of this? Not because like, we can't take a joke or we can't get where you're coming from. Of course we get where you're coming from. You make it fun of the Budweiser Clydesdale ads. And that's fun. No problem. But it's not like people are excited for this property so that you can do this. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:35 That's it. That's it. That's the point. Because people are like, oh, it's a fun homage to the commercial. commercial. Yeah, of course it was. But that's not, if you, if that was the Force Awakens, great. Do it all they all. Put Chewy and Han on a freaking thing and great. Everybody's excited about it. They know it's coming out. You've got to promote this thing. It comes out in, in May. Yeah. No one knows what it's about. They did the one piss ass trailer that came out two years ago at
Starting point is 00:06:02 celebration that they just, you know, regurgitated. And it was, um, and it was, it was an embarrassment. It was. It was, it was. an embarrassment. It was because people, people who are going to defend it, you know, the same, same old people. I love everything. It's like, no, no, no. They were just doing this. Have some fun with it, guys. The point is they're, they're, they're so lost in what is happening with the property. You have to gain excitement. You're, yeah, it's February. You just spent what, how much money on this spot? 10 million dollars? Seven million. You spent seven million dollars on that. Yeah. Put together a freaking, little teaser and then release it on YouTube
Starting point is 00:06:42 and show us what this movie's about. This screams Foloni. This screams for him. This screams that they're not aware. Like this screams a complete disconnect of how people are looking at this movie. You want to get people excited about this movie. I get it. Grogu,
Starting point is 00:06:58 people know Grogu, right? But like, do you really think like tens upon tens of millions of people have watched all the seasons of Mandelaarne and Grogu? They have it. So to me, this is the smarter move is to make a full on kick-ass Star Wars trailer to a global audience to get them excited for your movie. To come out with something like this, to me, is almost capitulating.
Starting point is 00:07:21 It's almost like, you know, falling on the ball on third down just to set up a goal because you don't have the guts to go for a touchdown. That's what it feels like to me when you're watching this trailer. I think they sense that it's not going to maybe do well. So they're just like not going to put too much effort into getting people's attention on it and getting people excited about it, which makes no sense. Zero. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:07:41 And again, here's the funny thing. This is how this works. Someone said, my hate for Foloni is going to drive him off this channel. I did the job for you. I threw you out of the channel. You're gone. There's no hate. You use a stupid word like that.
Starting point is 00:07:54 There's no hate. There is paying attention in the same way that when Aaron Boone makes a bad call for the Yankees, I call it out when he makes a good move for the Yankees. Yankees. I call it out. This is a... Balls and strikes, baby. This is someone who is not paying attention to the way that people are seeing this property that I am rooting for.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I've made it very clear. I'm rooting for this person. I want this person to succeed. He is now in the driver's seat, so he's going to get the wins and the losses. This was a loss. This was a major loss. And this is something that you're not getting people excited for. The intent is, I will say, I see the intent.
Starting point is 00:08:36 The intent is, done, yeah, yeah. Put Grogu in this homage to this great commercial to get awareness again from kids to say to the kids, hey, remember that guy? You like that guy when he came out. Well, that guy's going to be around. We're putting him back in the in the zeit guys. He's back again. So pay attention.
Starting point is 00:08:53 The problem is for the people who are like, okay, what kind of Star Wars movie are we getting now? And it's this, it's goofy. It places. It's the first, like you said it brilliantly in the beginning. If you already put out a trailer that people were excited for it and then you did this, then it's like, okay, that's fun. Great, people are pumped about it. And you can see Grogan riding around with horses or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:09:14 The taunton. But it's fun. But this was a miss. Yeah. This was a huge miss. Yeah, someone, I see someone in the chat whose name I'll remove, I won't say, comparing it to the Lilo and Stitch game plan. Well, you can do that game plan when Lilo and Stitch had a massive worldwide following as an animated film.
Starting point is 00:09:35 People were excited for it already. Exactly. Mandelorian and Grogu, that is not the situation here. The number of people that watch Mando and Grogo versus the number of people watch the animated Lilo Stitch. It's not even in the same fucking ballpark, not even the same planet. It's so completely different the numbers. So you can't follow a game plan for a situation that doesn't match up to the current situation that you're in, which is one where people are not excited about it. So it just didn't make any...
Starting point is 00:10:00 And it's not like people came out of the previous trailer and were like, this is an amazing first trailer for Mady Lorraine and Grogue. There were a lot of criticisms. of that first trailer so you need to come out with something a bit better i think they know they have a glorified tv movie and they're going to do their best to get people in to see it doesn't mean it's not going to be great or not going to be fun but i don't think this i agree with you i don't think this was the smart move to get people back on board really excited to see a star wars you broke up a little bit there in that one job so i look i don't um i happen to agree with you i don't think that this is
Starting point is 00:10:29 going to make this a um oh my god they're going to lose so much more money i still i still feel the same way that I did on before they aired this thing. I'll wait for John's getting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're waiting for your camera to settle. I'll come back in. But it's the same way that I felt before you. I still think that this movie just needs to make between $400 and $450
Starting point is 00:10:54 million. Shums ago, okay. Great. Let's get this last, let's get this Starfighter. Because this is a season of television that's spent like $130 million, whatever it is. they just need to make just around 400, 450 to say, okay, put some money more money in the bank. Let's move forward. Great. And then I guess Fever wants to do another season.
Starting point is 00:11:15 And if so, if they get enough excitement for it, then so be it. So I think that overall, I think that it's not going to lose the money. I just think you're just not getting, I mean, the spot is not going to lose the money. I don't think you're just not getting hype on it. No one's talking about it. No one's talking about it. You should, people should be talking about it. was a warring ass Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:11:38 You should have been, you should be talking about the movie trailers coming out of the commercials. No one's talking about it. And that's not a good sign. It's Star Wars. Can you imagine in a million years? I remember, I think it was, it wasn't the Super Bowl, but there was, I think it was the Force Awakens. When they showed the Force Awakens, they showed something.
Starting point is 00:11:55 And we did, they had us come in for Fandango during this football game. I can't remember what the game it was. And they had us come in, me and Tiffany, and we sat around watched the game and waited. for the spot and like, okay, here we go. And it was a big hype. And Mike's Rico was promoting it.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Like this huge freaking thing. And everyone's so excited about about Star Wars. And then it was a huge trailer. And people were hyped about it. People were talking about it for like the whole week. Yeah. Like this is a summer movie. This isn't a movie.
Starting point is 00:12:25 This isn't a television show that's coming out, you know, in a month. This is a major movie that's coming on in May for them. So, yeah, this was this was a huge, a huge. huge drop of the ball for both Disney, Lucasfilm, and Star Wars in general. Yeah. And now if you come out with a trailer, let's say March or April, yeah, I guess to get people except March or April, and it's not a bang or trailer, then people are like, well, this whole rollout has not been that great.
Starting point is 00:12:52 You know, it doesn't have a magic trick. Yeah. You're right. Now that's, now that's a question now, mate. Yeah. And to that person that I threw out that maybe never comes out again, who cares. But the point, what I would say to that person is this. here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:13:06 If that trailer does come out and it does get that excitement and it does, and Filoni was in that place, like we can afford to throw that little fun little thing out there. Wait till we drop this trailer. This trailer next month is going to get people
Starting point is 00:13:21 who don't understand what's come. They're going to be so excited about this thing. And it does that, well then we're wrong. And it just from seeing the points of view for how they feel the brand is right now, that they're like, oh, we're just going to love this trailer anyway. This trailer is going to be great.
Starting point is 00:13:37 We can do a little fun thing right now. And that is the question. Are they going to be able to actually deliver that people will get excited? And the answer is maybe. Right. Maybe, but you're right. It's got to be a banger. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Yeah. It's quizzical what they did. Yeah. I don't know. But seems like you guys, some of you agree, some of you disagree. You can disagree, by the way, you can disagree in a way that, is I've seen many people know, well, I don't know. I don't necessarily.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I think if they pay the homage to this thing and then they do this and it can work, I love that kind of stuff. When you say, I'm not going to watch his channel anymore if you don't love everything I love, they can go away. Go away. We don't need this. You've got to be able to have conversations that's someone else. Why
Starting point is 00:14:23 criticize science, fantasy, fiction things? Because it's things if you like it. You can say if you like it or dislike it. I'm not telling you when I say it. You know what? I feel this way. You have to feel way or you're wrong. That's silly. So you can have conversations.
Starting point is 00:14:39 That's the point of it. It's one of the reasons that this country is so fucked because people can't have conversations anymore. Because it doesn't matter if it's about fantasy or if it's a politics. If I don't feel the way you do, then I'm on the enemy side. I'm on the Yankees.
Starting point is 00:14:57 You're on the Red Sox. It is so disgusting and terrible. And we learned nothing. And this goes for Star Wars. I'm talking about for this the fact that I can't say well I thought it was a bad move I'm going to talk about Philo
Starting point is 00:15:11 I'm never coming back get the fuck out of here the fuck out of here it's you should be able to say I don't agree with your opinion I don't agree with your opinion I think the thing was fun it looked good I think Faluny's doing a good job
Starting point is 00:15:23 you're allowed to say that you should say that but stop with it if you say that what you don't believe if I believe this and you don't then you're a row and I'm not watching your shit. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:15:38 That's it. Anyway, what do you guys think? You like it? Not like it? Put your thoughts out there. I want to see. All right. Look, sometimes I get hungry and that's why I'm in a mood. I didn't eat my Factor today. I will. And you guys should too. I'll tell you about Factor. Then be right back. Thank you to Factor. Always excited to have them on the show and I appreciate you guys. description everybody so help yourselves out get yourself some fact yeah um you take a little well i guess we can still cover the rest of the yeah i echo everything you said why can't we just have discussions and debates and not assume that if one person doesn't agree with you they're the fucking worst person in the world for god's sakes well said christ thank you it just it's just my it's look it's
Starting point is 00:16:27 this morning i was having a conversation with something we're talking about these things and And I get people who ask me all the damn time. I saw someone say it last week. They're like, this is the middle of the rogue thing Christian does. It's so weak. At least Roker's got the balls to say this and say that. I'm like, I'm like, I'm not doing,
Starting point is 00:16:47 I'm not sitting next to Fox News Correspondence and CNN Correspondents. I'm talking about Star Wars and He-Man. You want me? Well, what's your current thoughts on, no? What's going on? in the Middle East. Fuck you. What do you want to know what I care about?
Starting point is 00:17:06 You want to know? What do you care about what I say? So you can say I'm wrong. So you can then say, oh, look at this clip out. Look what he said. Oh, Christian Horloff said this. And he thinks that this and then this.
Starting point is 00:17:17 He said, what do you care? Because you want to see if I agree with you? That's what it is. You want to see if I'm on your team. That's what it is. They only care because they want to see if you're in their team. If you're not on their team, they're going to clip you out and show the other team.
Starting point is 00:17:30 and show the other team, you know, they're going to show, they're going to show their team why, oh, he could have been on our team, but instead he said this. It's not teams. It's not teams. Like, this is the other thing. It was funny. It was something about like just in political issues in general, right, which we won't get into diving into it. I know. But I do, like, I'll tell you this, there are things that I agree with that conservatives agree with, right? Oh my God, my liberal friends are going to go crazy. I agree with some things that liberal people say, oh my God, you're a woke fuck.
Starting point is 00:18:09 You're allowed to do that. Yeah. There are topics that people lose their minds about that I'm not voting in Congress. I'm not voting. So I can have the balls to say, well, you know what? I don't believe in that. I feel like this. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:18:24 Then you don't believe in this and that? it's so stupid and it's the same thing with movies and it's the same thing in general and I'm just over I'm just over it and it's like I don't need I don't need to hear my but you care about my opinion for it because I stay very true to the fact and you know this you and I differ on this I don't think award ceremonies
Starting point is 00:18:44 should be political grandstanding I don't I think Twitter and Facebook and and all that stuff because I'm following you if I'm following John Roke on Twitter I look at your thing and I go this guy's going to talk politics. It's what he does on it. He's his political platform. If you, we were doing the Schmowdown
Starting point is 00:19:01 awards and you won for Best Heal and then you did a speech about, you know, something, I would say to you behind the stage, what are you doing? I would never do that. Right. Most people do. It's not appropriate.
Starting point is 00:19:15 No, you're breaking up again today. What's going on with your internet? God damn it. Really? It's a little better now. A little better now. Okay, okay. But it was, but it had some. Yeah, I mean, I think, but I don't think there's a blank you and I differ on this I don't think there's a blanket generalization on it it's all
Starting point is 00:19:30 about what is it you're speaking out about or does it apply to what you won your award for and I think that's those are the things you have to the latter the latter I agree with you latter I agree with you but you know for me as a Latino and things that are going on I'm happy for anybody to speak out about what's going on I really am but in other things like hey the the climate is getting worse or like that to me is not necessarily on my radar for this kind of stuff but things that are really that potent i think it is good to speak out on that kind of stuff but i also think you have a right not to so i mean it's just it's your choice you know people said that you're not you're not breaking up for them so maybe it's maybe it's a me thing so okay yeah oh that's good
Starting point is 00:20:09 it was breaking for me i was concerned i could hear you fine but the break he was breaking up so maybe it was a meeting i have no idea um anyway yeah so yeah so what um what are we should what are we get into next let's get you want to get what you we'll do some of the the other trailer spots because you're doing well right now by the way it's uh you're you're 30 30 questions nice really really good let's go um step won again last week about that three no single i mean she's she's she was off that she let the following little previous week she had done a show with uh with her and rocks but the last three times she's been on by herself she's won so we'll see if i don't know but today today 31 with roke a pretty good spot all right
Starting point is 00:20:55 Let's go, people. Let's go. Let's get to 100 people. Let's go. Let's do it. I think that's easy today. Let's get to this. Let's start with this one.
Starting point is 00:21:03 And minions, minions and monsters. We'll do a few of these. So minions and monsters is one. That's one of the trailers that dropped. Universal dropped their first one of Minutes of Monsters. We've also got Disclosure Day that dropped. You got Cliff Booth that dropped. You got the Supergirl spot.
Starting point is 00:21:21 You got Project Hill Mary. And then some Pixar film. I didn't even know what was coming out. What's it called hoppers? Hoppers. Hoppers. I don't know what that is. Hopefully it's good.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Hopefully it's good. But I don't know what that is. I didn't even, you know, I saw, my daughter was like, oh, I want to see that. I was like, okay. So we'll take it to see hoppers. Cliff Boosted out to me. Yeah. Clip boosted out.
Starting point is 00:21:46 That to me is going to be the one that I'm looking forward to. I didn't, I forgot that it was even coming out this year at one point. I think I put it on my most. anticipated as it should be. Project Hail Mary, I'm really looking forward to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, so I think that, but this is what I said with the minions. I don't know what the, because my wife at one point is they're making another one. I was like, yeah, because they still are making money. And I don't know how much, the last despicable me made money, but it didn't make the kind of money I thought it was going to make. I thought those movies had made to like almost a billion dollars each
Starting point is 00:22:22 every time. But as I told you many times, you never count out the kids' movies. You just can't. Because they're always the ones that surprise you and wind up winning the box office. So if it's good, word of mouth, it could do pretty well. But I think that we're at this place with minions that were probably in the $600, $600 million range with them, right? Right. We're at the oversaturation of minions, I think. We're hitting that. Oh, well, someone said the last, this is big one made over 900 million. So what the hell do I know? Well, Minions is, right, to speak with me is more like the Fast and Furious and Minions is more like Hobbs and Jaw. So sure, what is the, what is the qualification here? But yeah, I think we're getting to that point, honestly. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:06 to speak with me, I think still powers through, but minions, I think is a little less of terms of interest. Yeah. You just never count those movies out though. You just never count them out. You know, you cannot count out this animation movies. You just can't, especially during the summertime, because there is when all the kids are out of school and there are things to watch here here's a perfect example yeah it is it is freezing here right now it's finally starting to get better it's freezing yeah last weekend it was like okay should we take my little one to the movies and she's like I want to go to the movies I was like great let's go movies I look I look there's nothing playing for her nothing she can't there's nothing out there that she can watch so when the summer hits and if it's like
Starting point is 00:23:49 okay, minions is out. Let's go see minions. Let's see Hopper. Let's see this. So that's what I'm curious about. Yeah. Yeah. But you were right about the Cliff Booth thing. Just to circle back on that. Yeah. I think a lot of people were concerned that Tarantino
Starting point is 00:24:05 was going to, it was going to. I think a lot of people were concerned that Tarantino, like they weren't going to have the same kind of energy, right? But I think Fincher came in. and any doubts you would have had
Starting point is 00:24:21 that he was going to capture that 70s exploitation grind house kind of energy went right out the window after that trailer. I love them like scratching out the maybe the nudity or the logos or the brand,
Starting point is 00:24:34 whatever it is that they were scratching out there. That was genius. Elizabeth DeBickey was almost unrecognizable. I didn't know who that was. I thought it was Cameron Brink to play over the WDAB. I just was really shocked. So I love all of it and I think it looks like a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:24:48 And I totally forgot. And I didn't even know there was going to be a trailer for this. I don't think I read anywhere that there was going to be a trailer for this. It was a nice surprise. Yeah, I love that we saw that. Again, to me, going back to our previous conversation, Project Hill Mary, I think, is marketing itself brilliantly. 100%.
Starting point is 00:25:07 100%. Great stuff. There's more people that I think are getting excited about that. Yeah. Than Star Wars. And it just, looks interesting, it looks different. Yeah. And so I was,
Starting point is 00:25:23 I was really on board with that one for sure. As far as the commercials and everything else went, I don't know how I thought about, how did you feel about the Google hunting one? I liked it because I like Affleck doing a Boston guy, the Dunkin stuff. I thought it was a lot of fun. But I thought the hype for it wasn't as strong.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I thought the result wasn't as strong as the hype. That's what I would say. It was like that to me was well, done nostalgia paid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's like, you know, there's certain, it was, it was built for, for our generation. Yeah, it was like, hey, look,
Starting point is 00:25:58 look at all these people then. No, you, look at you old fucks, you getting old, look at this. And I was like, hey, it's fun, hey, so and so, so and so. I don't know what the commercial was about. They're doing, oh, this goodwill hunting, sure it is, this is Urkel's there. And I'm like, all right, great. It was fun. That I had fun watching. Oh, and I did also, I love the William Shatner commercial.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Oh, yeah, yeah, that was good. You see, he shat on the chair thing, whatever. That was, I laughed out loud for that one. Yeah. But I thought for the most part, you know, the Super Bowl itself was like, and I went up, I went up picking up my daughter's at a party. So I was like, it says something like normally if there was going to like, oh my God, I got to get her right now.
Starting point is 00:26:42 I'm going to miss half the game. Listen to radio. I was like, who cares. I came back and I was like, watch the rest of the game. It's fine. Yeah, the game. the game was a slow suppication. It's like watching someone just completely
Starting point is 00:26:52 beat someone up and then just choke them out for a few minutes. The Patriots are not ready for that yet. They weren't ready for that stage. They're way ahead of the schedule. 100%. Yeah, I agree with you. It's kind of a meh, right?
Starting point is 00:27:04 Mare commercial overall, Mets, trailers overall. My daughter loved that one, the MET commercial. My daughter, my little one, that MAD commercial. And it was, you know, it's funny with her, is that she, she's like,
Starting point is 00:27:15 eight years old, And she's like, so excited to watch and get all the snacks. And we put all the snacks out. My wife made these delicious freaking meatball sandwiches. This whole thing. Great. Game doesn't even start. About to get, we were watching the pre thing and everything.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Then she's like, I'm bored. I'm leaving. You're the only person to watch this thing with me. And then she's like, come on. What are we watching this for? They didn't do anything. The game hasn't started. And the game finally starts.
Starting point is 00:27:42 And my wife, rightfully so. Because my daughter's like, I don't want to watch this. Running around. at my wife and I go, you're going to watch the game. My wife goes, honey, she's eight. Teach her a little bit more about the game and maybe she'll like it. And I go, it's a great point. So I started, I started telling her a little bit more about it.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I'm like, you know, watch for the first. And I told her the simple way to look at it. It's okay, you got basically four chances if you want to cross over that yellow line. And if you can do that and, you know, explain it to her. Then she started, then she watched like two, you know, the rest of the half with me. Oh, it was pretty good. So, that's good. Anyway, what do you guys think about overall?
Starting point is 00:28:25 Yeah, what do you guys think of all the trailers? You know, I don't know what the hell's happening. Who cares? Watch this. Check this out. He's back. Now I'm back. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:28:36 See, perfect. Anyway, what do you guys think about this? Like it, dislike it? Comment, put your thoughts in there. I'm so tired of this. Thank you. What is your thoughts in there? Go to the clips channel, too.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Do the clips channel. Why not? Do it. Oh, my God. Did you watch Knights of the Nine of Seven Kingdom? Are you caught up? No, I'm not caught up on the most recent episode. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:29:04 It dropped on Friday and threw me off. Yeah. Like, it threw me off all weekend. Smart that they did that, though. I got to watch it. I got to watch it. Yeah, I totally forgot to watch. It was smart that they did that.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Yeah. because, you know, you compete against the Super Bowl. You drop it, you drop it on Friday. Of course. There's no logical sense to do it on this. And they keep doing this. This is a recent development with HBO that they do that move stuff off so that they don't go toe to toe with them. Well, it seems like everybody is enjoying.
Starting point is 00:29:32 And like, as I said when I was watching it, because I watched, I took all six episodes when they sent them like a couple weeks ago. That's right. That's right. I fired through them. I fired through them because I was so locked in. Each episode got better and better and better. And four was awesome. Five is awesome.
Starting point is 00:29:49 And I've said this about this to people already too. I would recommend, but nobody's going to be able to do it. And I understand. I would recommend waiting until six comes out and watch five and six together. Because six is going to, six is like a 30 minute like aftermath of five. Yeah. And it's after what happens in both four and five years. like, oh, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:30:13 And then you're just like, here's the stuff that happens afterwards and see you next season. Which is fine. But overall, the whole show is one big thing. It really, really works well. Well, that's good. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:26 It really works well. And I'm excited to say, and I want to see if Game of Thrones is going to continue to do stuff like this, meaning the smaller stories, right? Because as I said many times over, I don't want to get too repetitive. but I'm watching Game of Thrones again with Sam right now and I love.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Watching it again, it's amazing to watch. But as you know, it's complex. You can go a whole episode and not follow any of the main characters that you followed the episode beforehand, right? Because there's just so much going on, rightfully so. And in House of the Dragon, it's really just about the Targaryens, but there's still a lot of characters and there's a lot going on. This is a small contained story about this. dude who's the best and this guy who's playing duncan is phenomenal and the kid is great
Starting point is 00:31:16 the chemistry's um off the charts and i like i want to see him do kind of more contained stories like this i don't know what do you think yeah i love it and i think this is a great way to kind of get people back into the world of game of thrones and that guy you're right he's a former rugby player for ireland and got into acting later on in life and i think he does a great job yeah he's very humble when you see him in interviews. He's very much understanding like I'm figuring the game out as I work through these things. Just like Batista, you respect guys who come in and understand that it's a craft and you have to work at it and learn it. It's not easy or whatever. It really takes time. And so I think he's doing a great job. And the kids, it's incredible as well, the chemistry.
Starting point is 00:31:55 But I agree with you because they're already talking, they're already working on a season two. They're talking about doing more seasons following these guys because they go on for a while. It's a while. You know, it's funny because I just watched. Yeah. And I'm watching. season we're almost done with season four of um game throws right game of Thrones and it's I I wouldn't have remembered this because at the time I didn't pay attention to it uh there's a scene where Joffrey's talking with Jamie and they're going through yes they're going through like the the the knights of the guard the what is it the king's guard yeah king's guard right and he's like and he's like oh look joffrey's like he's like look there's four pages on sir duncan uh sir duncan
Starting point is 00:32:37 the tallies. Was he, was he that? Was he that goodness? That's what they say. And they, so they talked about Sir Duncan in that one. And then there's also references to, you know, egg and throughout the season and throughout the series, rather. So it's nice to
Starting point is 00:32:53 see it all combined. It's pretty great. Yeah. Yeah. And you don't have to and I think this is a great way to get people who maybe feel Game of Thrones is overwhelming because there's so many houses, so many storylines, all the history that gets dropped in every episode. Nothing stressed me out more than doing reviews of Game of Thrones. And it's so intense.
Starting point is 00:33:13 To have a show that's pretty simply laid out, you understand who the good guys, the bad guys are. You still have complex and nuance throughout the show, but it's still very ground-based and easy to follow. I think that's the way that you get people to give Game of Thrones a chance again. It's not a laborious thing that you have to go through. So I think it's a smart approach for sure. It really is. It's one contained story. And I think I was watching, you know, watching because Sam was like, well, when are we going to watch that? And I said, to be honest with you, like I said, hold out for House of the Dragon because you and I will do that together. I was like, you could watch, you could watch that show by yourself and not be spoiled with anything that happens
Starting point is 00:33:53 overall. You won't be spoiled with, you know, any lore or you, you could watch that by yourself and you'd be totally fine and you won't be, you won't be lost because it takes place, well, like 80, 90 years before the original series. So. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is. fun to see. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Anyway, what are you guys thinking about Night of the Seven Kingdoms? You like it, you dislike it. Put your thoughts in there. Please, please,
Starting point is 00:34:17 let us know what you think. All right, let's get you. This is what we do every Monday, John. We go over to the box office numbers. Let's do it. We didn't know. We knew that it wasn't going to be a big box office this week. Now with the Super Bowl and everything else. So check this out. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:37 So right now, send help was the number one movie. 10 million. John, what does that cost to make that movie? 40? I think 40. You got a chance to make the production budget back, but I don't know if you're going to do more than that. What is Solo Meal?
Starting point is 00:34:52 What's that? That's Kevin James movie. Oh, is that the one? It's not the one that coach Matt or whatever, is it? Coach who? Do you ever see this stupid Instagram account that they were doing the, Oh my God. People thought, I don't want to get into it.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Iron Long made another 6 million, 34 million so far. That still seems to be the big story. If that movie would have made 6 million and it's opening weekend last weekend, that would have been a big story. And now I made an additional six. Stray kids to dominate.
Starting point is 00:35:24 What are these movies? I don't even know what this is. Captured K-pop group solo performers at L.A. SoFi State. I mean, this is a week to put that out, apparently. Yeah. And then there's another Dracula movie? Yeah, there's a drama.
Starting point is 00:35:35 The spectacular movie, it's by Luke Besson. Oh shit. Look at. Dude, 33 million worldwide already. That's a pretty big story right there. How much of that movie cost to make? That movie couldn't have cost more than, well, it's Luke Besson, but it shouldn't have cost more than $30 million to make.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Christoph Waltz is in it. Caleb Landry Jones is in it. So you've got some names who are a part of this. Yeah, for sure. So, I mean, again, I still think that the story is the Iron Lung. I still think that's the story. I think the story could be Because you like, I still, I'm saving,
Starting point is 00:36:10 I'm not going to go and see the same Ramey thing. I'm just going to do a reaction with Steph when it comes out. Okay. Yes, I know. Because I just, I missed the boat on it. Yep. Are you going to see that Halliberry and Hemsworth movie? I mean, I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:36:26 They're showing it, I think the screening down here is on IMAX. So I may go see it on IMAX. But to be honest with you, Kristen, this is, this is Roka in 2020. If it's not a big movie, I am not going to go see it at a screening. I just, I don't. You're singing my songs. Yeah, because all the big screenings, sorry, all the screenings now are like mixed in down here with,
Starting point is 00:36:51 with people who are not reviewers. And so you take your chance going into a theater like that. If we're going to talk through it, you know, do what the kids are coming. Like, it's so irritating. It is. So I'd rather go on a Thursday or Friday afternoon at 2 o'clock, when two people are in the theater and watch the movie and enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:37:09 So that's kind of where I'm at. The big films, Star Wars, Marvel, sure, on screening. Sure. Stuff like this. I'm not really feeling desire. Did you see Wuthering Heights? No, I haven't got, I think the screening for that is either tonight or tomorrow. It was tonight.
Starting point is 00:37:22 So I'm going tonight. I saw an earlier one of it. But did you see my ad of the theater for that one? It's okay. No, I haven't watched anyone because I want to go and kind of cold. When I, when I, so I don't want to get into the whole thing, you're brother with Steph, but you'll you will get a big kick out of this um i did my reaction to it yes next morning i wake up
Starting point is 00:37:41 and i see the comments and it's like yeah people asking when i started doing takeout orders why i was why i rode my bike what's happening am i on hard times and this is why oh my god i had no idea that that thing was there it's my i showed my wife that and she was on the floor that's Sometimes you don't have gloves. You just put your hands inside the paper rolls. On the floor. It was losing it. It was really.
Starting point is 00:38:13 That's genius. Absolutely hilarious. I love that stupid. Johnny 5. It looks like Johnny 5. Yeah. And in the Discord, by the people, if people ever joined the Discord, you should because when is it just
Starting point is 00:38:24 figured it out? Yeah. Well, they just had to approve me. But I didn't. And when I pay attention of what's going on there, they did a whole bunch of pictures and stuff. One of like Johnny 5. It's hilarious. It's really funny.
Starting point is 00:38:36 It's really funny. So I would I would recommend people going to that Discord. There's actually really good people in there. They're really good people. They're never having a good conversation. All right. Let's say if there's anything else that we should. Oh, yeah. You know what? I should bring this up. Okay. Because this is, this is something that Bobby, our good friend Bobby Jackson brought up
Starting point is 00:38:56 the other day when he was on, and he said, this is something that they were talking about and this could be a problem. and it's about Masters of the Universe. So, Masters of the Universe is embracing its silliness. So silly. I mean, that doesn't look silly. That looks awesome.
Starting point is 00:39:16 After years of attempts, a modern live action, He Man film was finally happening, set to open in June this week. Empire Magazine has done a series of articles on the film to celebrate the title as its cover story for an upcoming issue and the process of revealed some new details about it.
Starting point is 00:39:31 First up, the film's director, Travis Knight says the film very much leans into the franchises to his turned cartoon originals and won't shy away from its tone or inherently sillier aspects. There's inherent it, there's an inherent silliness to it, which we are acknowledging and embracing. I think it's a virtue actually, and it's woven into the script to help some of these things make sense to a modern audience. Like, why would that character have that stupid name? Well, over the course of the movie, we show you why.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Key to the film was casting He-Man himself, which came in the form of actor Nicholas Galzatine, who could play both different actors. Adam and He-Man personas with Knight saying, I wasn't looking for a body. I wasn't looking for a soul. There's duality there. Adam essentially represents empathy. He-man represents strength. Galzstein hit the gym for the role, though he wasn't fully aware to be able to reach the cartoon characters, ridiculous proportions.
Starting point is 00:40:17 I think anyone's seeing that iconic physique would find that extremely daunting. Even the animations put Arnold to shame. The proportions, the minuscule waist, the bolder shoulders. I had four or five months to get in shape. Truly, it was the most difficult thing I've ever done. He did find the donning the costume a lot fun, saying you just become kind of abnormally confident in it. Wandering around in this costume was empowering. The film also sees Jared Leto a Skeletor, the character saying true to the cartoon of a cacchmic skull and a purple hood in a blue muscle suit.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Knight touched upon Leto's approach to the character. Skeletor was a really interesting villain. He looked cool. He was scary. He was funny. He was insecure. And then, of course, he had this distinctive voice. I wanted someone to craft their own version of that.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Jared approached it because he loves Skeletor and his own history with the character. who wanted to swing for the fences. Ultimately, we landed on something that I'm really happy with. Filters kind of the embodiment of toxic masculinity. Idriselba reveals that He-Man was a really big part of my childhood, and He-Man, Shira, Battlecat, and the like. That's what drew him to the role of Man at Arms. Martoons were always a little bit more fun, a little more camp, a bit more out there.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Travis, who's an incredible director, wanted to play homage to the aesthetic of the original. I was all for that. The film also stars Camilla Mendes I Tila. The Universe opens up June 5th. And there's the two pictures. I mean, the pictures will be pretty cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:34 All right. So here's my thoughts on it. Okay. I'm, if I hadn't talked to my friend who saw the movie, I would say that these comments don't scare me. I'd say because, because he's not wrong. The 80, if you're basing it off the 80s thing, it doesn't matter if that's the approach I wanted them to have. The approach I wanted him to have was the 2002, I wanted science fiction, you know, magic meets, science fiction or whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Right. Magic means tech and whatever. I wanted that and then they told you you're not getting that. You're getting if you look, this is because not everyone saw the 2002 cartoon of work. People saw the 80s thing and that's what we're doing. We're making a fun thing here. And so knowing that, because yes, there is some goofy stuff that is happening in the 80s
Starting point is 00:42:26 version of it, even if I just took all the cool stuff, there's a lot of goofy stuff going on in that thing. So those comments wouldn't bother me. It's the fact that my friend who saw the movie felt the same way, has similar opinions and said that it plays more like Thorloving Thunder. That's too
Starting point is 00:42:44 silly. Ragged that's a good silly. This could be too silly, but you know, I'll judge it after I see the movie. Yeah, I haven't, I didn't think that trailer was that great to be honest with that. Oh, you didn't like the trailer. Right. You didn't like the trailer.
Starting point is 00:43:00 I didn't think the humor didn't do much for me. But when your friends is Love and Thunder, that's what it feels like to me watching that trailer. Not 100% there. And I'm confused why you would spend, what is it, $200 million? That's the reported budget on this movie, on a silly approach to the 1980s property.
Starting point is 00:43:23 But we'll see, we'll see. I think it has the potential to be an absolute bomb or a surprising hit. I don't think there's going to do well. I think it's going to do well. I think it's going to have a good opening $2 million, man.
Starting point is 00:43:36 I think it's going to have a good opening weekend. And I think that if people don't hold it to the standards that I do, which I don't think people will. I don't think people will. And I think that more people are going to hold it to the standards that Mark Ellis did,
Starting point is 00:43:54 which is Mark Ellis said, when we used to talk about this all the time, he said, he can't do a movie about he mean it's just too silly and then when he sees that trailer and sees the fun plus he's like oh that he's like I was wrong that looks like a fun adventure
Starting point is 00:44:07 if you throw that rod out and you get people to feel the way like Ellis did and other people did and get people feeling oh that looks like a fun time at the theater that's what is going to I will tell you right now that I think that this movie has way more excitement behind it than Mandalorian and Grover Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:32 You don't think so? You don't think there was more people getting excited. I know you didn't like the trailer, but people were getting excited. Yeah, yeah, no, you're right. People are more excited. Well, how can I say this? I'm not as tapped in on that kind of stuff, so I don't think I can offer a really astute opinion on the situation.
Starting point is 00:44:49 But certainly the people responding to my reaction to Masters of Universe, because it wasn't a positive reaction overall. There were many more people telling me I was wrong on my reaction. And with the mandolin by the way, sorry, you can LOL know all you fucking want. You look at you look at the numbers on the trailers too. He man, the trailer did significantly better than man. So LOL your ass. L.O. your ass. Roll around on the floor.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Keep laughing. And then go look at the numbers and come back. L.O.L. And if it really does better. Yeah. And if it does better. My concern, though, is like my concern. First of all, you know, I've been on the receiving end of some of Mark Ellis's judgment
Starting point is 00:45:27 calls on things. So I don't 100% put a lot of faith in that. But I will say this. I will say this. It's an interesting time to drop it, June 5th, because it's like, what, two weeks right after Star Wars, but then Disclosure Days the next week, along with Scary Movie 6, and then Toy Story 5 after that.
Starting point is 00:45:47 And then Supercroft. So this is a stacked June. And I wonder if it's going to make the money that people hope it's going to make. If there's all this competition for people's dollars. Allow me to retort. Please. I think that I actually think that that's a good spot for them where they are. And they bring that that release schedule up because it's a matter of different,
Starting point is 00:46:10 different audiences, right? So like, let's go to, or if we're going to, because May 22nd is, we'll start with May 22nd when Mandelorian and Grogo comes out. Okay. So let's bring this up. Hold on. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:25 So there is the, here's the schedule overall. And so if you got Mandelaarine and Grogu will win that weekend. Now, what it does, I don't know overall, like the opening weekend. It will win May 22nd. It will win May 29. Okay. I think He Man knocks it out at first place when it comes out in June 5th. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:56 It will, that's when Manaloreen and Grogu will start to fall off once Heeman comes out. So He-Man will, I don't think they're intimidated by Star Wars. I don't think they're worried about Star Wars. I think they come out there. They win that weekend. Now, Disclosure Day and Scary Movie Six will pick at the box office, but they're different audiences in general. I think I think Master's Universe will be something you can take, you know, younger kids too, teenagers too, or it might be. It's going to be that kind of thing. Disclosure Day is going to be, you know, at mid-30s, mid-20s, old people moving. And I'll be there opening day.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Can't wait. Scary Movie 6. I don't know if the audience is there for that anymore. Maybe I'm wrong. Naked Gun didn't do great. I loved it. They didn't do great. June 19th is Toy Story 5.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Very different audience. So I think that if Master's Universe is good, to agree with you, if it's not good and people feel the way that you did about the trailer and it doesn't play well, and people are pooping on it, it's dead week two. Yeah. People like it.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Then Supergirl's going to have a problem too. Because Supergirl, if He-Man becomes like a massive hit, which I don't know if it will or not. But if it does, that's the biggest competition. Because if it's just doing okay, once Supergirl comes out, it knocks it off its pedestal. Right. But I think, I think Mandelaunian and Grogo has week one and week two to make its money. and then it's, I think He-Man's going to knock it out. I see some people, I think, give credit to Carla in the chat saying,
Starting point is 00:48:37 well, if it has the energy of Dungeons and Dragons, then I'll love it. And that's great. Dungeons and Dragons didn't make a lot of money. He did not. So, like, it's fine that it's great, but he didn't make a lot of money. And so you go to the situations like, maybe they do a good job of the film, but people aren't that interested in seeing a He-Man. So to me, the $200 million price tag that is rumored to be the cost of the film,
Starting point is 00:48:58 Right. That's a massive amount to spend on a film that you're not sure that this brand is necessarily a four quadrant brand anymore or IP rather. And so I'm very serious to see how people react. 100%. Because if it doesn't, like, same thing. If, if, first of all, if Mandelary and Groger winds up being really good and people want to get back to see Star Wars again in the theater, which I don't think is going to happen. But if it does, then he has in trouble. Then it's, then the gamble doesn't pay off.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Right. I can guarantee you that if Starfighter or episode 10 or whatever was coming out that weekend, He Man wouldn't be coming out in June. It would try to get as far away as possible. But with this, I don't think anybody's really scared of Mandelurian Groger right now. But if it's good, then by the time you get to that third week, it could be a problem. Yeah. But nonetheless, you know, it's, I don't even know how the hell do we even start talking?
Starting point is 00:49:58 about he man oh because of the he man story right there you go perfect perfect so as far as tone goes um i don't think that necessarily i think i understand what he's saying i really do i understand his approach um it just it's it's a matter if i'm going to tell my friend that i disagree with him when i see it you know i'm like no i thought that played more than ragner rock than love and thunder i i kind of disagree with you or if i'm going to go you know what you're right i want him to be wrong I want him to be wrong. But we'll see. What do you guys think?
Starting point is 00:50:32 He may. You're going to do well? Yes, no. No chance in hell. Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. All right. Last one.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Let's switch up. Let's do some Marvel talk. And I took John off audio. Sorry, John. Marvell. Marvell. let's talk about this story about the Punisher. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:58 I'm looking forward to this. I think John's looking forward to this. Punisher Special presentation's title harkens back to the Infinity Saga. And it is, John Berthel is great. It's great shot. Upcoming graphic novel has revealed the title for the Punisher special presentation coming to Disney Plus this summer and harkens back to Marvel Studios' Infinity Saga.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Interesting. John Bernthal made his official MCU debut. in Daredevil Born Again last year, and the future looks bright for Frank Castle. The actor will prize a role in Brand New Day and his own Disney Plus special presentation this summer, and we're not discounting a Daredevil Born Again season two cameo. It was reported by every outlet except the hot mic that the punisher would be coming back. Understandably eager to- Those idiots!
Starting point is 00:51:49 Morons. Understandably eager to capitalize on the excitement. Marvel Comics will release a new premier collection edition of Punisher. Welcome back Frank next month. Book will include an exclusive forward by Frank Castle actor John Bernthall and a new introduction by author Garth Ennis. Official product listing has also revealed the special presentation official title. John Bernthel returns as the Punisher. The upcoming Punisher one-shot special on Disney Plus. Frank Castle is a one-man army locked loaded, ready to take down anyone in his way. So the Punisher, old shot special it is. As you'll no doubt,
Starting point is 00:52:23 Recall, Marvel one shots were originally released from 2011 to 2014 as a special features bundled with the Blu-ray and digital release of MCU movies. First one-shots released in 2011 and were titled The Consultant. And a funny thing happened on the way to Thor's Hammer, item 47 followed in 2012 with Agent Carter in 2013 and All Hell the King in 2014. Original one shots range from three to 15 minutes and we don't necessarily think that means the Punisher's one shot will be that brief. If anything, it's going to be between 45 minutes to an hour, similar to the Gardens, the Galaxy Holiday Special. and Werewolf by night. I think it'll be as high octane Punisher you've ever seen, Bernthal said. I think what was really important to me and to Destin and to Tom is that we believe the Punisher could walk off that Spider-Man set and could walk onto the special set.
Starting point is 00:53:06 I do believe we've achieved that. It is eyeing summer 2026 premiere on Disney Plus. I didn't know that. I didn't realize it was coming out. That's a dope shot. Yeah, I know. Love that. I want to read that. It's so good. So what is? So where does it have? happen. So what did the Infinity Saga? So it's happening during that time? I think you kind of have to, if you're going to combine this into everything that we've heard about in, uh, Doomsday and Secret Wars, it, it's going to serve like a sequel to end game, right? So you got to figure out a way to make him relevant to that too, right? Right. Absolutely. I mean, I'm looking at the release date,
Starting point is 00:53:45 what Spider-Man is July 31st. So if it's coming out in September or summer of 2026, so I imagine this thing comes out in June maybe to get us hyped up or maybe even early July is a July 4th thing but wait does this come but he said walk off the set from Spider-Man yeah to the special so does a special take place after Spider-Man I think he's just saying like the the energy of the Punisher has to be consistent so what he's basically saying is that like the Punisher you're getting in Spider-Man is still the same Punisher that shows up in his special so you just have to make that's what we're staying inconsistent with. So I think that's what he meant. Not necessarily chronologically.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Yeah. But I think the special comes first. I think the special comes first. Okay. And either, either way, it's going to, it's going to do, if it comes out before, if it comes up before, it's going to hype you up to see, whoa, what's that guy going to do in Spider-Man? And then that'll help kind of market even more towards Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Or Spider-Man comes out, doesn't really necessarily need the marketing push. It's going to crush. It's going to do very well. And Bernthal will be in it. Oh, he's got, he was so awesome in Spider-Me. He's got a special coming out, too. I'm going to watch that. So it's a win-win. It's a win-win either way you do it.
Starting point is 00:54:57 I agree. 100%. I like that he's taking ownership of the character. I've always loved the punishes the first time I read him. So the fact you've got someone who's finally come along who really understands what's important and wants to protect the character. I think that's amazing. So I love what John's doing with this thing.
Starting point is 00:55:12 He made it very clear that he wouldn't come back unless they really took what the essence of what the character was. And he certainly did. that Daredevil series, born again, I thought they did it. They weren't afraid to shy away from how he was. He kicked a lot of ass in that one. I feel like this special will be rated R. Or, I mean, it's not a, it don't really, or mature TV, you know what it is.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Yeah. For sure. I think so. So that's it. So thank you guys for that one. I'm curious now what you think. Punisher. Excited to see it.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. All right. time to do it, man. 48 questions thus far. 48. 48. Before we do, tell us about the channel. Oh, yeah, the channel. Come on.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Head on over there. YouTube.com slash John Roker says. Last night did a Super Bowl watch a lot of fun. You catch me dancing to some of bad bunnies. Music there looking like a fool. But I loved it. It was amazing. And, of course, I dropped my trailer reactions for Supergirl and Project Hail Mary. But I got more stuff coming up this week. As Christian mentioned Wuthering Heights.
Starting point is 00:56:15 I'm going that tonight. Just lock that down with the people here. I'll be doing a reaction to it tonight. And then we've got spill of tequila, hot mic, Jedi Way, is now back with me, Kevin Spetz and Frank Janish. And of course, later on in the week, I've got my own stuff going on with reactions and commentary. And the truth coming back a little bit more than usual. More live shows lined up there for that as well. Someday, I'm going to get into consistent reactions, Christian, like you're doing someday.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Got to find that editor. Got to find the people to do it with. But that'll be the next step for sure. Yeah. It's, I mean, it definitely is, look, I love revisiting Game of Thrones. It's been last. It's been fun to watch it with Sam. And I'm doing, you know, we get stuff with stuff with stuff that we're doing right now.
Starting point is 00:56:59 I think we're going to do the Muppet special. That's what we're going to do. Oh, nice. Her and I, because I mentioned, I had mentioned the Sydney-Sweeney movie for her. And I might as well asked her to sniff a fart in a jar. So she, she was not. But my wife really wants to see that movie. So I'm probably going to watch that one with Sadie.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Ming, we've got Kill Bill coming up. Nice. Two is going to, we're shooting soon. So we have a lot of things going on right now. We're excited. And once everything starts moving into like March, like Sam and I are going to be doing so many different movies. So much so, X-Men, Harry Potter, the DC, EU, Star Wars,
Starting point is 00:57:41 tons of shit coming out this year. It's amazing. All right. Let's get into it. We got a new member. Good time to be a new member, Leonardo, because she calls me every time. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:57:55 I'll pick up just to, she'll hang up because she called me during every show, but she knows. During the show. Have you ever called me when it wasn't during the show? I mean, what has happened? Yes. I call you multiple times a day. That's also true, but you're consistently consistent when it comes to when I'm on the show, right when we started the question.
Starting point is 00:58:15 questions. But you have the option to not pick up, right? Oh, sure. But then the music also plays really loud and I think it's an emergency. So I had to pick up because I said, well, my wife clearly knows that I'm on the air because I tell her every day. So you feel bad not picking up. Honey, that's so sweet. See, this is what I deal with. All right. I just mentioned that you're going to be watching the Cindy Sweeney movie. yeah, I'm excited about that. I thought so. All right. I got to go.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Bye. All right. So let's go. Next one. Michael D. Now she just gave you permission not to pick up. She said you don't, it's your option to pick up the phone what I call. I know. That works out. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:59:05 When do you think the brand new day trailer will come this week, possibly? I think it'll drop in February. I mean, it doesn't Sony. Well, no, you know what? shit man Carlton brought this up isn't isn't Sony doing the Hell Mary Project Hell Mary? Is that a Sony picture's one?
Starting point is 00:59:24 Is it? Let's make a look. Who's doing that one? Oh, you might be right. Oh no, it's Amazon. Amazon is Project El Mary. Like MGM. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And never mind. Whatever Sony's next big movie is, that's probably when they're going to drop it. Well, they are. Sony Pictures International. So it's his
Starting point is 00:59:42 international for Sony, but United States and Canada is Amazon MGM. So maybe. So possible. Yeah. Maybe with Project Hail Mayor, which is coming up soon, yeah. Nathan Drake, was it me that Duncan ad really bad? I can understand I can understand why you'd feel that way because there wasn't really anything to it except, oh, that's fun to see that person de-aged. Yeah. You know, like Joey's there and Jennifer Aniston's showing up and it. It was fun to see them. But was it, was it, was it Was it written well? Not really.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Yeah. The irony of who wasn't, the irony is that Tom Brady wasn't D-Hed. Everyone else was. That's the irony. There is. Go-Pow.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Not sure I'll be able to make the lie but support. Thank you, Gopal. Always appreciate it. Cadever, 82. That booth trailer. I can't wait. It really is, I think it was on my most anticipated.
Starting point is 01:00:33 If not, it is now. But I'm pretty sure it was. Go-Pel follows it up. That cliff booth teaser was awesome. I was already in from that anyway. Me too. Mike Joyce. I hope Huntricks does the halftime show next year.
Starting point is 01:00:46 I think they should do it if there's another K-pop movie coming. But to have a whole, to have, they don't have enough hits. Yeah. I mean that enough songs. I know people are going to be mad want to say this, maybe. And I'm not coming at K-pop or all this kind of stuff. But like, Bad Bunny was American. Kendrick Lamar is American.
Starting point is 01:01:10 There's just something where like going full out the other side of things where you're going to another country and bringing their artists in like K-pop. I think that's where there's maybe a danger in the situation. But that being said, could be fun. But I don't know that I necessarily think that's the smart move overall because I know anime is big, but how many anime people are watching the Super Bowl? Do you know what I'm saying? Right. I mean, I don't know. or into sports.
Starting point is 01:01:40 I don't know. I don't see that happening either. All right. Tough luck. I still feel Disney's taking the live action Lilo and Stitch approach to Mando and Grogo's marketing, which is why I argue this was a clever ad for casuals. I mean, the only thing, I understand what you're saying there. I understand it.
Starting point is 01:01:59 But I think John made the point. There was excitement around Lilo and Stitch already. There was an idea, oh, okay, they're bringing this in. And then maybe there was a trailer before. hand, maybe there wasn't. I don't know, but I think you can do that kind of tone with Lilo and Stitch up top for casuals because you're staying consistent with the tone. I don't think what we saw in that commercial is consistent with the tone, or at least it shouldn't be. If that's the tone, I don't believe that's the tone for the movie, but if that's the tone for the Star Wars movie,
Starting point is 01:02:29 that's a problem. The Lilo and Stitch, him riding around on cars and that's what Lee, that's what Stitch does. Right. So that's why I don't really agree with why I think it was good for casuals, because casuals might think that if they see that, they might think that this is just going to be moving for kids. Yeah, I agree with you 100%. It's an issue. By the way, I think I need you to ban PLD in his comments. I think you need to buy it. This is this dumbass said that, well, Paul McCartney is not American. The Who is an American. And it's like, you know what I fucking mean, you dummy. people listen to the Who and listen to like Paul McCarty. That's like we are from the Brits.
Starting point is 01:03:09 America was created from the Brits. What is wrong with you? That's an interconnected thing. Like what is wrong with you? You're trying to say that the British people. Where's Rihanna from? That was nonsense. Where's Rihanna from?
Starting point is 01:03:24 Yeah, but she's distinctly American. She has made her stuff America. Well, wait a minute. I might have to argue with it on that. She's found her success in America. No, no, no. I'm not arguing with you on that. I'm going to argue with you. And then cable.
Starting point is 01:03:37 But wait a minute. But wait a minute. I'm going to, but you hear them singing, though, on their songs. I mean, from, and I don't know, there's a whole. I just don't think it's going to happen because I don't think there's enough. I think there's more interest in, say, Paul McCartney and Rihanna than there is the K-pop. I mean, look, my eight-year-old would argue that that's not true. She would have loved to.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Anyway, hotel nerds. A little hardcore listeners of. of Rihanna and of the who and of Paul McCartney are watching sports. I just don't think I think the way you and Peelead talk to each other. I can't believe you guys
Starting point is 01:04:13 don't like each other. Hotel nerd. Mando trailer sucked. I thought it was a car commercial with Star Wars characters not going to see this. I think that's a fake. But that's the problem. Yeah. Is that I think that that's going to land on a lot of people like that. If they don't know what this is,
Starting point is 01:04:30 like people who weren't looking forward, it, it's I know what it was intended to do. The intention was, hey, look at Grogu. Remember that guy? Remember him? And we're going to be cute. And we're going to blend that to a classic commercial that we used to do for Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:04:44 It's amazing. And it feels like Super Bowl. That's what we're going to do. It just, I think you just missed the mark. I think, I think they're a little tone-depth. Tough luck. I feel Mando and Grogu does 500 million worldwide on a 166 million budget. I don't think that's, I don't think that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:05:03 I wouldn't, I wouldn't bet again. you. I wouldn't bet against you. I would be, I would think you would be pleasantly, I think you'd be happy. If that movie does 600 million and you're Disney, you're thrilled. If it does anything over 600 million, I mean, I would be shocked. If it makes a billion, I'll eat a water bottle on camera. But if it does, but if it does, you know, again, 600, you're happy with that. Now, if it makes $600, you're going to get videos made out the wazoo, how much of a failure it was. But $160 million budget, it's not the intent. It really is not the intent. So, but if it makes $500 million from Disney, I'm taking that as a win. I'm putting my, I'm putting my production and my marketing budget in the bank. And then I'm just looking towards Starfighter and saying, go, John, make you last season of Mandalorian. And that's it. That's it.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I would be, I think that'd be a failure of $500. I really do. But it wouldn't, though, in, in, in, if in the, the business aspect of it, like, it wouldn't. If you do, if you're at, because that's, that's, I think that a lot of people are going to take that approach, so, John, which I think is, is not, it's not the intent of what they're trying to do. They're, they're, they're taking that $160 million that they would have spent on a loss for putting out a season. And Iger said, we're doing our Moana strategy here. Make it a movie for 160 and let's try to make some money back.
Starting point is 01:06:37 If you make $500 million off of 160, that's a win. That's a win. It's a monetary. Now, it might not be a win for the brand. That's what I'm getting it. That's what I'm getting it. I guess I should clarify. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Like the financially, yes, of course, that's a success. Right. But brand-wise, this is a Star Wars feature film. Right. Whatever the parameters are, it's still a Star Wars feature film. Sure. So 7 to 800 should be in the conversation. Of course, but I don't think we, I don't think we live in that neighborhood anymore.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Well, I don't know. I don't know. Now with this, Starfighter's got a shot. Starfighter's got a shot. This, I think the interest, I think the season three took the wind out of the sense. Yes, I agree. Arago, 4512. I saw Mike Flanning doing a new Exorcist movie and Scarjo signed on. Thoughts.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Was my top three scary movie of all time? Wonder if you can capture this new generation. Mike Flanagan is like Elvis now when it comes to horror people. People love Mike Flanagan. He's like, and so I don't know if I've seen a lot of his movies,
Starting point is 01:07:44 but all I know is about his TV shows, people swear by him. And then we got Carrie coming up. There's another one that he's got going on. So, I mean, when it comes to this stuff, this guy's hitting home runs right now. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Quite a few people because Lawrence Fishburn was signed on to this one and so he's got quite a lot of people to take a chance and be on board so they're leveling up because if you look at the people who started the previous Exorcist movie and yes I know it was the original lady who came back Ellen Burstead but the the bringing Scarjo bringing the murderers robe actors they're bringing in now this is a complete leveling up with the franchise hopefully it's a hit we'll see Diane Lane yes yeah I'm curious to see how that's gonna play but I mean it it'll get some hype between having her and him involved it'll get some
Starting point is 01:08:31 some hype behind it. Gen X kid. Hi y'all. That game was straight trash and boring. I'm watching halfway through first quarter, but that halftime show, pure fire. People, I mean, listen, it was that game, man, I was so, like,
Starting point is 01:08:47 I just didn't want New England to win. So as this defensive battle is happening, I'm watching the battle, like kind of go down and I'm going, all right, they're doing what they're supposed to be doing. They were outmatched. Yeah. Oh, 100%.
Starting point is 01:09:05 They weren't ready for that game. And the whole postseason, they were luckily getting by, getting into the position to get into the Super Bowl. And then the weather conditions were perfect, and you saw how limited they were as a team. Oh, it was so nice. It was a really nice out there. All right. Next one. Saraba friend.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Mando and Grogo will be the second Star Wars movie under $1 billion. Agreed. Oh, yeah. I don't think we're arguing with that. Agreed to know. I think they're aware of it, though, this time. I think they're aware of it. I think at the time when they put Solo out there, and I've told John this,
Starting point is 01:09:42 and I told Smetze when he said this, too, that there's a lot of things I don't think Kathleen Kennedy did right. Solo coming out in May was not one of them. Not her fault. That was all eager. She pushed to have it come out in December, and she was ruled against. I think that Solo would have had a much better shot at doing, at least, you know, making a profit. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:07 In December. That was a major, that was a major error by Bob Aiger on that one. So, but I think they're aware of it this time. I don't think they were aware of it last time. And he's a Franks. Hey, guys, two things. Thank you for finally posting a Game of Thrones watch along. Keep them coming.
Starting point is 01:10:22 You're welcome. Also, the Cliff Booth trailer. Yes, can't beat pitcher and Pitt. Them working together and the fact that Tarantino. wrote it. Yeah. It's a, yeah, it's like if he just took it over and there was no Tarantino involvement in it, like, I don't know, he kind of wrote the essence of who they were. But Fincher directed it with Tarantino's script with Brad Pitt coming back.
Starting point is 01:10:43 I'm pumped. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, did it. I like the energy of it all. And I'm ready to see it. I'm ready to see it. Okay. Next one.
Starting point is 01:10:53 The Cheezing essay. Sye, now only excited for X-Men season two cartoon. When is that coming out? Jesus, I don't know. I don't even know what's coming out. You should. I want to see what that is. Is that this year or is next year?
Starting point is 01:11:09 I don't know. Gen X. He had Pedro, Cardi B, and Jessica Alba alive in. I saw Pedro. I saw him and I was like, is that, yeah, it is him. I didn't see, I heard that Jessica Alba and Cardi B. I didn't see it, though. Yeah, and the same sequence in their panning.
Starting point is 01:11:23 They were there. Carol, she was there. A lot of them put there, yeah. Shut up, Ralph. 57 years ago today. Monday, February 9, Cliff, drove Rick Dalton for a meeting with his new agent, Marvin Schwartz, Pacino, who said he has to do
Starting point is 01:11:35 Westerns. Is Pacino in this one? You got to do Westerns. I don't know if he's alive in this right. We'll see if he's alive. I'm so excited to see what they're going to do. So excited. Seattle, K.O., congrats to Super Bowl champ, Seattle Seahawks. I'm happy that they won. Very much so. David
Starting point is 01:11:50 Jardaya, agreed Christian. The trailer for Mando was a letdown. I'm still looking forward to it because I love the series. Yeah. God bless you, David. A person who can speak, you know, oh, thank God. Thank God. I just, this is the kind of comments I look forward to. But the trailer looks like an ad for a Budweiser.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Not that you agree. You don't like the trailer. Right. Didn't mean that, oh, now I don't want to see it. It stinks. It smells. You can say that. But you didn't.
Starting point is 01:12:18 You said, I still want to see it. I just said the trailer was farts. You don't not. Now everybody. Oh, David. Oh, my God. David didn't like the trailer. It means that, oh, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he's a,
Starting point is 01:12:29 for now he hates everything the worst like the I love everything crew can't stand it if you don't like it oh it drives me nuts it just as bad as moving on
Starting point is 01:12:43 that's why I've unfollowed I love everything crew uh Erica 4512 that new trailer for the Brad Pitt spin off from once upon a time on Hollywood looks great yeah I think it's for the one that's the one that hit for everybody
Starting point is 01:12:54 one I'm most anticipated movies for this year I'm surprised that Tarantino picked Netflix. Whose deal is it, though? Is it Tarantino's deal? Or is it? What's his face? Yeah, I think it was all a package.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Like, he didn't want to direct it, but he was willing to sell the script or have the script done by another director. Fincher stepped in Fincher hasn't existed deal with Netflix, so it just made sense. And Tarantino, since he's not making the movie, is not going to take a stand on it or anything like that. Right.
Starting point is 01:13:27 And if Scorsese can do a fucking movie for a streaming service like Apple, why can't Tarantino and Pinterest? Yeah. Let's see. Next one. This is Armada. For the next hot mic, I want me or someone to ask Jeff if Sean Moroni is in a scoop for a big movie
Starting point is 01:13:43 coming up where Roka plays a curious if Jeff knows everything. That's pretty good. So, you know, basically what happens is like when we did like, you know, the donkeys in space, I said to them, I said, look, here's the thing. I said, you can't like bombard their chat. with donkeys in space
Starting point is 01:13:57 because they'll know right away that it's up. I know you got to like carefully plot it out. And so if someone asked you, so Sean Moroni is the character that Ellis played in grasping in straws. That's great. So if someone said, hey,
Starting point is 01:14:12 like you can get, you should be on this next time. Someone asked you if Sean Moroney is going to be like, you know, if you sold it, John and you were like, you know, my sources say that Sean Maroney,
Starting point is 01:14:21 you know, upcoming comedian, he's really crushing and is going to is, is up for this role. And Jeff, I don't know if you've heard anything about this. that would be amazing because Penny Barber he would know he would know Penny Barber you brought a penny barber he's going to know right away like he but is are we getting are we getting fat Sean
Starting point is 01:14:35 Moroni or are we getting skinny Sean Moroni in shape Sean Moroni. Sean Moroni was Sean Moroni was the character the character was and you know I have a whole I have a whole story of what happened to Sean Moroni I have a whole story like it because my the new show lives in the same universe in the same way clerks lives in like you know mall rats or chasing Amy they're not it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not at all but the new show has those characters exist so I have an idea what happened to Sean Moroni I would love for Ellis to I'll tell you Sean Moroney's a workout videos have been amazing his jump box that videos that he posts this just fantastic for real jumping I got to see shut up Ralph I know everything is subjective
Starting point is 01:15:18 but I don't know how you see supporting act of category this year and not give that award to Sean Penn yet he's not going to win I thought he was a shoe in when I saw the movie. Me too. I think splitting the votes has hurt. Yeah. And I think people just, I don't know, for some reason, just not supporting it. That character, I think people are, people can't seem to separate the character from the artist. And it's frustrating. God. Luke just made an AI thing of me eating a water bottle of, if, uh, if, uh, if, I'm not playing
Starting point is 01:15:51 it, but it's ridiculous. David Joday. I enjoyed the Supergirl trailer, though. I love crypto. I love pets. He reminds me of my late dog. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, for sure. I mean, people, the crypto, a lot of people felt that way. Fifty-three so far, John, 53. Let's go. Come on. Forty five minutes left. I think- Let's go. I think that you can hit 100 if they want to get you there to ask all your questions. Let's go, people. Let's get to 100. Come on. You got Mike and Roxy coming in hot tomorrow. So, Gen X kid. And I loved how he stayed on message kept the same energy the whole way through him, Kendrick, our great message with their music, problem. Yep. Were you tweeting about it last night too? I did. I just posted that as a, you know, because for me as a son of Latino immigrants, first generation in this country, to see something so, so just unapologetically Latino was beautiful for me. I got teary eyed by the end because it reminded me of, you know, the get together as I had with my family, my family reunions and the things that went down and the dancing
Starting point is 01:16:48 and all of that, just amazing. And I think he spoke really powerfully and strongly about his country. and he spoke about unity, spoke about love. And I think that's really important nowadays. So I thought it was a beautiful, beautiful halftime show and a lot of fun. A lot of fun. Followed up with the best part of Bad Buddy's performance was when he gave a little geography lesson by listing all the countries that made up America. Yeah, and same Bolivia, which is my parents' home country.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Kenneth Colton, Project Halmerie was amazing. Sign me up for Disclosure Day as well. It looks pretty good. I was not expecting a cliff booth spot, but also look great. Salute to John for hosting yesterday. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:22 How did that do? your uh day well yeah 10 000 views uh not too bad for a super bowl yeah oh yeah real good yeah a little bit of money yeah all right let's see gen x kid the end of game marshal on commercial after the cx win elite level petty and i love every second i did actually i turned the i turned the game off by that point yeah it was uh it was a what do you call the skittles one was really oh i missed it's funny because i was watching i was watching my my wife who was not a sports person was like this game still on and Yeah. And I was just like at this point, Seattle had it locked in. I just said, you know what? I'm coming to sleep. And I dragged it. Yeah. I turned, I turned it off. So I missed that. Uh, casual scroll. Elon Musk really has a nerve to question Chris Nolan's integrity for casting Lepeda. Dude, you're in the Epstein files, please. F-offs forever. All right. Next one. Dr. Gravity. Shakira's Super Bowl performance popped up in my feet. And my God, those hips indeed do not lie. Real's top Super Bowl performances. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Shakira is like she's she's not human like yeah yeah she was amazing yeah she's great um and and I can't believe like her husband like cheated on Gerard Picay like the Barcelona soccer player you're a moron like Shakira is gorgeous like it's like David Harbour and Lily Allen what goes through your heads you morons these are beautiful women what are you fucking doing so anyway and she's great she's amazing but I would put Prince probably number one of all the Super Bowl performances. But, yeah, I have to look at the top five now, but Prince is number one
Starting point is 01:18:59 for sure. Bon Jovi. Yeah, Dr. and Snoop. Bon Jovi. Bon Jovi. I don't know. Bon Jovi. I don't know. I don't remember. I don't pay attention to these things. I don't ever do. I usually, no, no offense. I just normally, normally, like, that's, that's, it's exact opposite for me, what my wife
Starting point is 01:19:15 does. My wife will go and she waits, she doesn't watch any of the game. The, the, yeah, the halftime show comes, she watches it. Me? Yeah. I eat all the snacks. I do everything. Then I go and I walk the dog and I come back. I don't want. I never watch the halftime show. I don't give a shit. Um, edit the movies. Couldn't it be more personally. I'm excited for Mando and Grogoo, but that trailer was booty. It wasn't a trailer. That's the problem. It wasn't a trailer. People around me were confused
Starting point is 01:19:42 what that spot was. That's the problem. That's, yeah, he just said it. For those people, like, oh, it's good, great job. Again, people, you know, knowing the movies coming out. Did they? they just threw a title at the end. Most people who are watching that because Ed's a movie guy. His friends probably, what is that? Is it a movie coming out? What is that? And he probably had to explain it to him.
Starting point is 01:20:04 Yeah, that's a problem. Yeah, agree. William. Trioly. Hey, guys. I hope you had a great weekend and that everything is good. Thank you. Roke, it was fun to watch the Super Bowl with you on your stream. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:20:18 It helped soften the blow of the Patsloss. Appreciate it. Thank you for the. kind words and that's very, very nice. I'm sorry, I'm sorry for your Pat's loss. You know what's funny though? Normally with the Pats, like I just dislike them. I don't dislike this team. I, I respected the team for making it there. I just, I just can't in my, in my heart of hearts, unless it's like, you know, unless they're playing like the Cowboys, I'm not, I'm not rooting for, I'm not room for the Pats. There's, there's very few, I would root for
Starting point is 01:20:46 for the Pats against the Cowboys. I would root for them against the Eagles. Yeah. I'm not rooting. I'm not root in form against. I mean, I would root, I would root for, for your team over there. Thank you. They played him because you and Ellis. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:21:05 But there's really, it's just, it's one of those things, you know? Yeah. Mike Choice. Bad Buddy was the best produced half-time show over right. It did, I mean, it was, it was like a full-on production. Yeah, it was a full-on production. It told a story. It reminded me of WW.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Remember when What's his story? Did the non-match with John Sino and Bray White did the non-match with John Sino? Oh, right. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:21:31 It had shades of that. Yeah, he's a performer, man. Quarterm, the ring commercial was dystopian. No one noticed. Nope. A lot of people noticed. I know if you want to go and find the time, I don't know if you where it is on the,
Starting point is 01:21:43 it's basically they used the fact that there are 10 million dogs lost every year in our country. and they said, well, Ring now has a new feature, right, where they will, they like, if you just post in the kind of your dog that you lost, and all our ring cameras will scan your neighborhoods across the country to find your dog. And my first reaction was, wait a fucking minute. Like, they're using our love of dogs to couch that they're creating essentially a big brother system that can find you anywhere that you're walking around in the neighborhood. And that is not good. That is not good. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 01:22:25 I saw, again, it was something that I caught kind of off the size. What they say? You're using AI to find dogs? And then I was eating onion dip. William Trieroli, I saw Iron Lung on Saturday. I really liked it. It is definitely a slow build of a movie, but I was locked in and enjoyed it. I love hearing that.
Starting point is 01:22:40 I thought, so is it marking plier? Markiplier? I think it's Markiplier, yeah. Markiplier. Did a great job. Highly recommend. We try to get him for an interview. And they passed.
Starting point is 01:22:53 What? Yeah. What can I do? Who do you think you are market players? No, it was probably as people. It was not him. Well,
Starting point is 01:23:01 I mean, who do these people think they are? I don't know. But hopefully one day I got a chance to talk to him. Really respect what he did. L.J. Films, saw send help. Really fun movie.
Starting point is 01:23:11 Definitely recommend. Hearing great things. Yeah. And great things. Brady Bruce, finally watched wrecking crew over the weekend. Good 90s buddy cop vibe fun. I haven't seen it yet.
Starting point is 01:23:23 You haven't seen it yet? Markiplier is apparently how you see. Markiplier. Okay, got it. Corn Emperor. Current, a ninth of the 17th thoughts, I'm loving it. Read them.
Starting point is 01:23:35 So, yeah, we talked about it earlier. You probably sent that in maybe before or maybe you tuned in after we talked about it. But we're both really enjoying it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bobo Baggins. That ad actually made me not want to see Mando. Same with my friends.
Starting point is 01:23:49 I think it hurt them. The problem is that if, like I said, I know, John, and you know that that's not going to be the tone of the movie. Right. But if you're a casual fan, you might think now that it's a kid's movie. Yeah. Yeah. I don't disagree. That's how I felt watching that trailer, that TV spot was like, oh.
Starting point is 01:24:11 So this is going to be one of those just kind of like, it's not really that big of a deal. There's not really high stakes. Just a fun time with these guys. Right. That's what they, that's what I think that they're going to do. I don't know. Yeah. Carlton, London Calling, loved Project Artemis final trailer and also John's reaction.
Starting point is 01:24:29 I have read the book. It is the action. Samin and Pinkheart. What's the, what's the, what's Project Artemis? He'll Mary. It's basically saying Project Gil Mary. You know, I'm on the fence, Christian. I don't know if I should read the book before I see the movie because it kind of
Starting point is 01:24:42 want to consider the movie as its own thing, right? Yeah, I don't want to know. I don't like, I don't like to be, I don't want to know any of the story details if I haven't already read it, you know? Aaron Ambrose, they feel like this Mando spot would have better received the movie was taking place after season one with the hype and questions the season left us with. I agree with that. That's a great point. I totally agree with that.
Starting point is 01:25:03 Like, if the hype around one was like, oh, my God, Mandalorian and Grohl, this is amazing. Holy shit. And then the movie, these movies come out. They're playing off the hype of this thing. Everybody loves Rogo. Great. Is there a new movie coming out? Great.
Starting point is 01:25:14 A hundred percent. The excitement of it. Um, outside of like the hardcore fans has been lost with the, yeah, it had mainstream excitement. And that mainstream excitement is gone and you got to get it back. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Jay Sisk, 22. Great show, Jens.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Calling it now, Boone's getting fired this year in the angstful hire Mark DeRosa as the next manager after USA win in the DVC. I, um, I just don't think he's going to get fired this year. If there's a God. He's not going to get fired at you. He keeps making it, you know, is it? It's such a hard gig. I want Donnie baseball to come back. I think he's the,
Starting point is 01:25:53 oh, I love that. I think he's just, he's the owner's lacking. And he does what the owners want him to do. And he plays the players that the owners want him to play. Yeah. And in the end, the owners feel like they're running the team.
Starting point is 01:26:05 And so he essentially gets to keep his job because he's essentially a hand puppet for these guys. So it's a shame. I know. I want to see, I would love to see them. Because Donnie baseball didn't get a chance to win his championship. I want to see him come in to win a championship. Poochute, Ryan.
Starting point is 01:26:23 I really loved the Jurassic Park commercial. Didn't realize that Tyka directed. I didn't either. Which Dino would Big Balls and Big Cahonis ride. Man, oh, man. You got to give me that Rhinisorius Ricks because I'm all ups for the challenge. Nice. Thanks, Big Balls.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Good job, Big Ball. I think Big Hohonies is, I think he died. maybe was a taco accident yeah that's fine uh bobo baggins i just wanted to say much love christian thank you bobo i hope you're doing good man i am you're my hero you're my hero i would say find new heroes but no i'm just kidding that's very kind to you bobo very nice nathan drake don't know how you guys feel but i'm loving the seven kingdoms me too so far honestly i'm liking it better than house a dragon i don't think that's fair yet though okay i think that's fair because I think that everyone, like, I am one of the very few who did, who, who really liked season two.
Starting point is 01:27:24 And I liked season two because I'm fully aware that two and three are going to play. They should have, they should have shown a big, that big battle in season two and ended it, because that's what Game of Thrones usually does. It gives you that, oh, this didn't. It's like, oh, wait for the battle for next season. And that's going to piss people off. And I get it. But I'm really invested in it.
Starting point is 01:27:47 I really am. And I think that they have two seasons, and this has one season, 30-minute episodes. Doesn't mean that, did he say he's enjoying it more? Because if he said he's enjoying it more, oh, he's liking it better. I mean, he enjoys it more.
Starting point is 01:28:03 I mean, that's his personal opinion. So maybe you can say that. I just think you got to get, I think you need a little more game tape on it. But it's, I get it. It's a smaller container store. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:15 house groove 76 even if you don't win here's five bucks for you're gonna spend it all in place there you go 65 got a good shot come on guys wiley it's my birthday day thanks for us happy birthday why thank you for me positive positive uh person on this channel thank you yeah always bringing up music and everything too gallegos hey fellas what's up where you been hello for my lunch break at mit been a while since i gave christ fiber you know i haven't seen you wish you guys the best keep the kind of coming I hope you guys are doing well. I hope you lovely wife is doing well. And I hope you guys are doing great.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Is that the first marriage of the schmuch? First marriage. Like 87 marriages in the shmode. Oh, really? Wow. Marisol and Adam. Oh, I thought they knew each other before yet. Oh, Sam and Rachel.
Starting point is 01:29:03 Sam and Rachel. Sure. Taylor, right? Taylor and what's his thing? Yeah, yeah. I don't know if they're married, though. I thought they got married. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:29:14 maybe not. But yeah, they've been, they've been quite a few. Quite a few. I'm sure missing somebody. But there's been, there's been quite a bit. One divorce, I know. Anyway, go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. What's it? All right. So let's get to, what's next? Where is it?
Starting point is 01:29:31 Oh, man. Okay. Who should write? Any chance that Winston, Chris, and Jay host Capes and Cal's. I've got to reassess certain things on the channel. I was talking to John about it. It's like the thing is that people that, No, I didn't mean Dan. Sorry, I want to clever.
Starting point is 01:29:46 I didn't mean Dan. There's another, there's another, oh, God, I would never talk about that flippantly. What's wrong with you guys? Come on. So this is, when you have, this show, they do. And again, it's the same thing with like the, the freaking, the freaking,
Starting point is 01:30:05 the reactions that we're doing for Demon Slayer, right? Yeah. I have to see if it makes, more sense to have one host per show than two per show. Because sometimes it depends on, it's like, it's just a matter of financials. There's nothing I'm doing yet that's going to change that. But I'm just, I'm just, I got to, I got to, I have to reassess. I have to reassess.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Okay, RQMDSMD. Support for John. The Super Bowl watch long was fun. Thank you guys. Much love. Okay. Next one. All right.
Starting point is 01:30:43 Check, hot take, and or is considered amazing because Star Wars content episode 8, 9, Mando Season 3, Ackleit was terrible. When the Pitt won best drama, no one was going crazy about it because it was yet another good HBO show. So Andrew is considered amazing because Star Wars content was terrible. Oh, you're saying the only reason, but it's also good. So, yeah, no, I mean, I understand. I know what he's trying to say.
Starting point is 01:31:09 What he's trying to say is the pit, no one was going nuts about it because they just said, yes, it's an HBO show. Of course it's going to be good. It's good quality. They expect it. The recent people said, this is what he's saying. The reason people said, and are so good because everything else has been shit. And that, oh, finally a good show. I think there might be a little to the fact that like, oh, finally something like real good. But it's also an awesome show. It's very well written. It's one of the best written things. I still think it's the best written things since Empire.
Starting point is 01:31:35 I think everything stands on its own, regardless of what's around. Because by that same flip logic, then you would say that, something is so much more worse because everything is better. So all you people who hate Ant Manah Wask Quantumania, I can say your opinions are too extreme because endgame was so good. You thought it was going to be end game. So therefore, your opinion doesn't matter because you think it's terrible. And you're over,
Starting point is 01:32:01 you think it's over terrible that it actually is. That doesn't make sense. Everything within is within its structure and is good or bad exactly how it is. And so to bring in all this other stuff is just, you know, I'm not saying that small percentage of people might feel that way. Sure. But it's not the overall feeling, you know, that is a legitimately great, well-written show. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:32:22 Matt Krugman. I wish every three to five years, the Super Bowl would do an 80s, 90s band halftime show, get new relevant artists for a few years, then throwback and repeat. I don't know. Who's in charge of, like, of, you know, booking the stuff into a company that does it? I don't even know how that works. How does it work? Because they've done that in the past.
Starting point is 01:32:43 You know, we had Madonna, Nikki Minaj and Sealo back in 2012. You had Aerosmith, Brittany Spears, Mary J. Blige, Nellie in 2001. So they've done that. Katie Perry, what? That was like 11 years ago with Nicky and Lenny Krabbit.
Starting point is 01:32:57 So they have done that kind of stuff. So I think right now they're just on a run of focusing on because we're, I think we're a different, we're a different society now. And so we're looking at what's the hot thing and see if they can. Because now the Super Bowl
Starting point is 01:33:11 halftime show. That used to be the place where people would go like, oh, remember me, I was an artist and I'm still around. Now it's like they're trying to catch the people on the come up or in their prime. They know Rihanna and others, so yeah. Chris,
Starting point is 01:33:27 Sabrina. Hey, guys, it's my birthday. Another birthday. Happy birthday. What's a better way to spend my morning with Christian and Roke? My question, could movie theaters have a premium streaming service to show movies that are in theaters? I mean, I guess they could, but how does that, how does that work overall, John. What do you think? Oh, that's
Starting point is 01:33:43 an interesting question. I mean, like, you can do that because I'll tell you, being a part of the Critics Choice Organization, Christian and I know this, we had access to movies streaming before they even were shown in theaters. Right. Right. You know, some of those Oscar contenders
Starting point is 01:33:59 we were able to see from the comfort of our home before they ever saw it. So it is possible. And I think that is a next possible step, because that's how you can still make money and for people who want to stay home, But I think theaters will be scared to do it because it'll give people more reason to stay home and less reason to come to the theater. So that could be dangerous.
Starting point is 01:34:18 So you'd have to work all that out. But it's coming. The idea that theaters are still going to be around is at the numbers that they are now is not a fight. It's a, it's not going to happen. Have you seen this? Look at this avatar. It's my favorite. You know who that is, right?
Starting point is 01:34:35 No, who is that? Kalinowski. Thanks, this is Johnny Petriza. Christian for continuing the Demon Slayer reactions. It's great to see you're enjoying it. Roka, have you watched any anime at all? Yeah, not Demon Slayer, though. I mean, I do not pretend to be any kind of huge anime guy.
Starting point is 01:34:51 I'm old school, like Ghost and the Shell stuff I love a lot. Akita, I love a lot. And that's basically it. I haven't ventured too far out. One Punch Man. What's the one you like to do, whether you did the live action? Oh, one piece. One piece.
Starting point is 01:35:07 Yeah, I've never watched. But I didn't do anime. I did the live action. No, that's what I'm saying. The live action when you did. Watch that show. That show is so much fun. I can't wait for that show.
Starting point is 01:35:14 That comes back this year, this year. I can't wait for that. I'm so excited to do reactions to that. I got to get into it. Yeah, Boy Sambra. I did watch Bly Sambra. See, but like that's, that's an example, right? Like, I'm, we asked to do it.
Starting point is 01:35:26 And that's the other thing is too. Now I don't know what to do because Demon Slayer, I'm really enjoying it. Then the idea was someone said, why not make it for members and do it and just put the unedited ones up so you don't have to pay the editors to do it. and we didn't bring in any new members to interview. We put a couple patrons or members, but not enough to
Starting point is 01:35:45 again hold the loss. So I don't know like, what do I do? Do I just take the loss and start editing them to try to make something back from it? I don't know what to do because I know because clearly there are people who are enjoying it. I don't know what to do. It's the biggest fucking pain in the ass right now because I enjoy watching it and I like doing them with
Starting point is 01:36:01 Winston. Kind of Patricea Christian, you need to ditch the TV show and get that donkeys in space movie ASAP. Get Gary Busey to voice a character. I don't believe that if we go into space in this particular way, some people call me jackass, they think it's going to be a problem. It's not a problem. It's to me a beautiful realization of eating grass is fun. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:36:24 Thank you, Gary. Armada. I was like a mix between Gary and Stallone that time. Yeah, a little bit. Hey, Armada, will there be a character named Sean Moroni in the new show that you're making? No, he won't. He's, I don't think he's. I don't think he'll be referenced.
Starting point is 01:36:40 He's not, well, he's not referenced in the pilot. That I know for sure. But he is, he exists. Sean Moroni exists in, in,
Starting point is 01:36:49 in the world. Because it's, yeah, it's, there's more, I'm actually, as soon as we're done today, a great phone call on Friday and so much from where they want to jump
Starting point is 01:37:00 back on a call today. So I'm jumping back on a call today. I hope, you know, like I said, we're getting closer and closer. Like we're moving, it's,
Starting point is 01:37:07 it's moving faster. go pal i thought mando was a star wars budwiser ad with tantons in the place of clisdells that would have been fun being mando was let down but not irritating that's fine yeah that's fair that's fair uh kingsford cow what if mando and grogo go to harloff minor if they haven't blown that up in canon soon they will i don't can i couldn't believe they didn't blow it up a long time ago they'd probably just ignore it um i probably there's going to be a note claudia gray in her next
Starting point is 01:37:38 novel to blow it up. Danny two car. Hey guys. Been a fan since the 2015 Schmozaer. Thank you, Danny. If the movie trivia Shmohan ever had a Hall of Fame, who would make the general class? Roca, 100%. Come on. 100%.
Starting point is 01:37:52 How many people that normally? How many people normally in the class? I don't know. You have to cut it down to five usually, right? That's the Hall of Fame. I'm just going to say right off the bat, the top five in my head right off the bat. Okay. You? You're not just saying that because I'm here.
Starting point is 01:38:09 No, I wouldn't. No. You took this story element. You let people know what the story element was about off the back and you played 100%. You, Dan. Of course, Dan. G-O-A-T. Clark Wolf would be my third.
Starting point is 01:38:29 QVC's Clark Wolf, yes. That's right. Clark Wolf. Can I add two? Can I add two? Guess. To more, right? Yeah, I would add the Patriots.
Starting point is 01:38:41 You'd have to have the Patriots. And then Rachel Cushing would be right there. Yeah. You were right there. I mean, Kalinowski is throwing shit to the wall right now, I'm sure. But Kalinowski would be in that second wave. I think I'm looking at who built.
Starting point is 01:38:56 I'm looking at who built in the beginning. Because Rachel Cushing was in that second wave. Yeah. Like you, Dan. Shit, man. How do you put Riley in there? Riley could be in there, too. You got to put Riley.
Starting point is 01:39:08 Right. I know, so that's tough. I always, you know, it's funny, too. I was going to do it. I was going to do a Hall of Fame after,
Starting point is 01:39:16 after 10 years. It would have been great. Let's make it happen. No, I don't want to do it. Rinaldo Leon. Who would you want to direct the Tarantino script? David Finch?
Starting point is 01:39:25 David Finch. 100%. I mean, I would. 100%. That would have been my first, that would have been my, my,
Starting point is 01:39:31 my guess, or my pick. 100%. I feel like Nolan is another choice. That could be fun. Let's see what he would do with the Tarantinole. Jack Lewis, best part of the Super Bowl was seeing Jessica Alba. My God, she is, she's another one.
Starting point is 01:39:45 She's not human. Andy's a Francie. Couples beware. SB on BDA next year. Super Bowl's on the Valentine's Day next year. Oh, is it really? Yeah. Oh, that's terrible.
Starting point is 01:39:58 That's terrible. That's going to cause a lot of problems. Well, you'd have to have a manager's wing, too, right? So I see, Saul says Finstock for first bat. I think you'd have to put Finstock. Stock in? In first, in first? Well, no, no.
Starting point is 01:40:11 There's, there's, in the Hall of Fame, but the NFL is the best way to do it. Yeah. You have the players and then you have coach. Again, that's not fair either. He was the only coach. He was the only manager. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:40:24 He was, he was the only manager for like. Shannon Barney might have an issue with that. And then Barney was, Shannon Barney wasn't a manager until like season four, season five. Literally, the, Finstock was the only coach during the season. Like when we initially, like, that's true. That's usually one. So it's tougher to do.
Starting point is 01:40:39 But eventually he would be. He would be a hall. He's a hallfamer. I just not, I don't know about the first. You're asking me the first five that I would say would have to go in right away. I wouldn't sleep right if those five people that I mentioned weren't in there right away. Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:40:55 You know, um, all right. Let's see. Next one. Daniel, the Pulito. Respect to bad bunny for naming the Americas. Yeah. All the Americans. Dark Smirk 1.
Starting point is 01:41:08 Mando movie happened after season 2. If it happened, I'd be hyped. Yep. As of now, I don't care about the Star Wars movies. Also, Prince is still my favorite halftime show. Who's MJ? Michael Jackson. Oh, okay. Yeah, he's MJ.
Starting point is 01:41:22 He did it. He judged, right. Yeah, so Prince's was great. And then, as far as not being hyped up, I think that's what they've got to do. That's why this trailer was so important. And this trailer, like I said when it came to, when they weren't doing Doomsday, I was like, okay, look,
Starting point is 01:41:42 it makes sense why Star Wars would do a trailer to get eyes on the product right now. I see why they would spend that $10 million. It makes sense. You put that $10 million to say, hey, we got a Star Wars movie coming out. Here's the movie. Get pumped.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Instead, they do a car commercial with a Tontonton. It's like, what are you doing? A car commercial? What are you doing? Prochute Ryan. Roke. People have recommended Eldon ring and secure for you to play.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Although I enjoy the games endured to me, I don't want you to spend money when you can beat the first enemy. Heads up. Okay. I can beat anybody. I just have trouble with the final enemy on the game. It's not the first enemy. I'll get on it, though.
Starting point is 01:42:18 I'll get on it. I appreciate the heads up, Butchew. Thank you. Mike choice. Those AI commercials are horrendous. That's what Mike says. Yeah. There was a lot of AI commercials last night.
Starting point is 01:42:28 Yeah, people that's what I'm telling you. It's, that's, we've talked about it. Yeah, yeah. Our generation, two generations, below us are going to be kicking and screaming and then that generation is going to go what were those people talking about my AI robot just served me to just serve me breakfast Carlton Rudder Artemis was anywhere's next book my bad oh yeah Ryan the night prince died and he was lit purple it was raining the massive crowd outside
Starting point is 01:42:58 first avenue never forget almost 10 years later I can't believe it's been 10 years that's crazy that's crazy did you see the Yep, John. You missed that still? Next question. Oh, wow, you still haven't seen it. I'm surprised. I liked it.
Starting point is 01:43:12 I enjoyed it. It was, you know, it's just generic, but I enjoyed it. It's a good streaming movie. Andy's Frankie. An actual wedding at the halftime show. Did they actually get married? Oh, it was a real wedding? You really got married?
Starting point is 01:43:24 The couple got married. Yeah. Did they really? That's pretty fun. Bobby Jackson, with the current state of theaters post-COVID, I thought this would be the time for studios to spend money for awareness, especially with all potential massive movies this year, but I guess not.
Starting point is 01:43:36 I don't understand the logic. Yeah. I don't understand the logic. The only thing that I can get is that they're out of touch and think that it's still the brand that it used to be. Yeah. It's Star Wars. People will be excited to see it.
Starting point is 01:43:49 It's May. It's Star Wars. I don't think they realize that it's not that it's not America's pastime anymore, as I say. Yeah. It's almost like what do you call it, like amnesia. It's almost like they have amnesia. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:04 Yeah. Justin Bishop. A good point about the streaming service from movies that are in theaters is that the movies on streaming should be more expensive than movie tickets. Good luck selling that. The movies on streaming should be more expensive than movie tickets. That's what he's saying.
Starting point is 01:44:21 If you were going to put them on streaming, you make them a premium cost. Oh, I see what you say. That's how they can recoup their money. I get the logic, but people won't pay $35. No, it's true. Just wait for it to come on, wait, couple months until it's available for cheaper.
Starting point is 01:44:37 Or they're pirating. There's a lot of sites that's last one for now. Johnny Petraza. Akira is a classic. It needs to hurry up and get that live action made. They tried it. Like DiCaprio was going to do it at one point, right? Yeah. Yeah. Tyca. Tika was tied to it for a long time and then just walked away from it recently last year or so.
Starting point is 01:44:56 Interesting. All right. Let's see. So we've got, I think, is there any more? Yeah. Oh, wait. Oh, I know. There's one more.
Starting point is 01:45:05 There's two more. Hold on. Not this. Yeah, there's more. Okay. Scott Ross, 65-00. As a diehard Star Wars fan, I'm more excited for your show. Well, that really makes me happy. That makes me happy. I mean, knowing, knowing like what we have to achieve, like, because that was what we did on Friday, John, is that, like, you know, we have the conversations of, okay, these are the goals that we need to hit. This is what we're going to be able to tell people who's involved, what we want to do, how we want to do it. And if people want to get passionate. The one thing that I will say that I realize that we're definitely going to be telling people about,
Starting point is 01:45:39 and I think people will be excited about, and I hope that the chat agrees with me on this, that right now, from when we're launching this, Markiplier, Stuckman, they did it. They made it happen, right? And they both went after movies. I feel like right now, for what I'm doing on this scale, that I'll be one of the first to really go after, like, the streaming television show. I'm not saying that people haven't done shows, but at this scale, from where I'm going at with this scale and what I'm trying to achieve
Starting point is 01:46:09 I feel an end I'm doing it a fraction of I mean a little fraction of market player not even a fraction of a fart as opposed to like Stuckman where I have like a fraction of like the subscriber so I'm I'm pushing a big boulder up a hill for what I need to achieve
Starting point is 01:46:24 but I believe in the product and I believe in what we're working with and I believe on who's involved that's the thing is that when you find out who's involved that's the whole point so thank you for that That means a lot. Some more, 75. The winner, shoulder.
Starting point is 01:46:38 I love that name. Why do you guys think Marvel struggles with B or C-less villains and groups like the Masters of Evil? There's hardly enough to fill a Supermax prison. I think they struggle. Oh, go ahead. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:46:49 No, no. Finish. Please. I was just going to say, I think they struggle because they don't have people who are that hardcore into the Marvel characters and really understand the Marvel history and the chronology.
Starting point is 01:47:00 Listen, a lot of people involved in these. At the top tier, they know these characters. James Gunn. Kevin Feige, they know these characters. But once you start moving a little to the lower tier of list of characters, a lot of writers, a lot of creators don't know them as deeply as like the hardcore compbook people do. And so it becomes an issue in trying to make them unique and distinctly different and
Starting point is 01:47:23 still have that connection to the overall MCU feeling. So I think that's the things you run into because a lot of people work in comic movies aren't as into comp books as you would think. Right. just a shame. Dr. Gravity. Quick shout out to bad buddy for having Liam in the performance.
Starting point is 01:47:41 It wasn't Liam. A lot of people think it was Liam. It was not Liam. It was a kid meant to represent him. But yes. Andy's a Franxie. The Hemsworth commercial was great. Best one in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:47:52 Which one was that? That was the Alexa one with him and his wife. And he's like freaking out that Alexa is planning all this stuff for their lives. And then he eventually comes around. They watch nothing. Casey Gritt. Have you guys spoke on Aronofsky and his AI push? I haven't. I haven't talked about it yet.
Starting point is 01:48:09 Here's again what I think is going to happen. If I know, I haven't spoken to John about this at all. I feel like John's going to go off on it and probably really pissed off about it. But this is the same thing I said. The whole reason Kathleen Kennedy is talking about leaving Lucas from working in AI. People are going to shift to where they think things are going to go. And they're not going to want to be left out in the cold. if other people are taking the shot.
Starting point is 01:48:33 So Aronovsky is doing that. And he, Aronovsky is a brilliant guy, by the way. So like, don't, don't think that he's like, oh my God, I can't believe people got mad if he were doing this. He can do what he was doing. But he's also going to say, look, look, if I'm doing that now, and I'm able to, and that's probably one of the things
Starting point is 01:48:51 that John's probably upset about is the fact that you, when you get him doing it, then other people are going to go, well, if Aronovsky's going to doing it, then I'm doing it too. I don't know. How do you feel about it? No, I've evolved in my point of view on this because I see it coming. Like, we're starting to cover AI fan-made films on Jedi Way.
Starting point is 01:49:09 Like, Kevin loves them. He's obsessed with them. And so he has gotten me, like, I spent a Saturday, and probably why I didn't watch a rip. I spent a Saturday afternoon watching a lot of fanmate Star Wars AI movies. And I was like blown away. They're not great, but they are good. I agree with you, Chris.
Starting point is 01:49:24 They're good. Pretty good. Pretty good. Even some of them. But like, the things that are missing are some of the emotional beats, Some of the character beat transitions. Yeah, and the soul. So once they, if they ever solve that, you can fucking forget it.
Starting point is 01:49:37 This is game over. You don't, dude, it's only been, it's only been like two and a half, it's only been like two and a half, three years for with this big AI push. 10 years, you, 10 years you need, we could be AI right now. People wouldn't even know. Yeah. I want to, I now want to explore it more. And I want to see if I can create stuff because I can do emotional beats.
Starting point is 01:49:55 I can do care. I know what works. And so it's like, if I learn how to use AI and make AI films. what I'm saying. I can still create something that's good. So yeah. It's going to be, it's going to be a continuous thing battle for people. Yeah. Anyway, all right. Next one. Carlton,
Starting point is 01:50:10 we're at 79. Playing Assassin's Creed Shadow, superb game. Yes, that's on you, Carlton. I'm not an Assassin's Creed. I bought the game. I played it for two weeks. I f-fing hated it and I turned it back into GameStop. I'm just not an Assassin's Creed person. No.
Starting point is 01:50:23 It's just restarting and then dialing back in. Oh, so annoying. So, yeah. People love that series. I know. They do. Okay, I'm trying to think if there's anything else. No.
Starting point is 01:50:34 Wait, one more. We got a member. Okay. Thank you. Hey. Big T. 2495. Thank you, big T.
Starting point is 01:50:39 Oh, yeah, we do have one more. And incredible halftime show. Bad Buddy is him. There you go. Yep. Oh, we do have another one. There we go. Prout and Rutter.
Starting point is 01:50:50 Now we got 81. Jody, Comer, or Jesse Buckley, better actress. Who do I think is better right now? It's not fair. because I don't, because it's not fair. I just have not been blown away by performance the way I was with Jesse Buckley and I was not familiar with her.
Starting point is 01:51:06 I think she's one of the best and I've only seen her in one thing. Everybody else knows her other things. I've only seen her in this, but what she did in Hamnet, I think she's one of the best working today. Because I know that if she's capable of doing what she did in that movie, who knows, I can't, that I'm so much more excited now for the bride than I would have been because she's in it.
Starting point is 01:51:27 I like Jody Comer. But for me, Jesse Buckley, but again, I'm, I'm, I have recency bias. I think, but I agree with you. And I've seen a lot of Jesse Buckley stuff and a lot of Jody Comer stuff. I've, I've consistently walked away from Jesse Buckley's performances and be like, Jesus Christ. With Jody Comers, I've walked away sometimes saying Jesus Christ, like the last duel. She was great in the last duel.
Starting point is 01:51:54 But in the bike riders, even a terrible film like, men, which Jesse was in, she was great in that. So I think Jesse's next, I think Jesse's one of the greats. I think Jody Comer is just below in the next level, which still means she's still a fucking amazing actress, but I think
Starting point is 01:52:12 Jesse's just, that's one of the greats. I was so blown away about it. Okay. Clip Champ race jumping in late today, so I'll apologize if you covered it. Baldor's Gate show on HBO Max. Does it signal confidence in the merger considering Netflix as a show set in the same
Starting point is 01:52:27 universe, forgotten realms. I had no idea. I'm not as familiar with it. So John, I'll let you speak on it if you know what's going on with this. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:52:35 of course I'm aware of Baldur's Gade. I've never played it, but I'm aware of it. But I do think it signals confidence. I think nothing signals confidence more than this, that's ridiculous congressional hearing last week, where Ted Saratos was basically playing with all these senators, like they were little bunny rabbits and he was a bear.
Starting point is 01:52:52 It just was just like, it's a whole, this is done. Whatever one or Paramount's going to try do it's all a waste of time because Netflix just feels very confident that this is done and so does Zasloff so yeah I mean even
Starting point is 01:53:05 with that hearing area too they just you could just tell Serendos is playing on another level than people it was he was taking Ted Cruz's questions and go like did you understand what you would be doing if you were in my office right now you'd be getting me coffee yeah
Starting point is 01:53:21 what you're asking me questions for Ted Serrandos to me is the goat right now. Ted's like, did you, didn't you get caught like pining for some adult star? Like, who are you to ask me questions? In general, in general, he's just, he's just, not just even that in the way, but like just the way, like the moves that he's making, right? And I know everybody like, you don't want,
Starting point is 01:53:45 no one wants to be fans of executives and everything too. But when you look at like business in general, the guy, he's the guy. He's the guy right now. He's the guy. He, I mean, no one thought he was going to get Netflix. No, everybody thought it was including me.
Starting point is 01:54:00 I thought it was going to be a complete, you don't care. I remember Snyder saying it. This is not Netflix really being serious about this. They're just doing it
Starting point is 01:54:07 to up the price for Paramount. And guess what? He was very serious about it and did it. He's, to me, that's who you should be taking. For me, used to be Eiger.
Starting point is 01:54:20 Now, to me, Sarandos is the guy. 100%. 100%. It's not even, not even a question. Not even, I think that's it.
Starting point is 01:54:28 Oh, no. I'm saying it's going to be it. That's not it. I don't know. I can't complain. Legend, what was your guys' favorite play? Five guys' favorite plays in the Super Bowl?
Starting point is 01:54:38 I mean, it's really just defense. It was really just defense and field goals. Yeah. The strip sack of Drake May for the touchdown was great. I thought Sam Darnal hitting his tight end for the touchdown was great. And Kenneth Walker, but I still think the defense should have been the MVP of the game. Kenneth Walker did a nice job, 135 yards, but like he didn't,
Starting point is 01:54:59 he didn't break a spectacular run for a touchdown, right? To me, the defense was the MVP of the game. They should just give it to the entire defense. Yeah. Um, let's see. So, guys, thank you for being here. John, one more time before we get going, and ending in 83, where can people? Oh, you guys can find me at the Rokas on all my social media, but head on to my YouTube channel, YouTube.com slash John Rokas. There's so much going on there. You know, I pop on. live whenever I get a bug up my ass. So, you know, stay tuned to that. Subscribe and hit that bell button. So you see when I get a bug up by us and I do live. But we also got geek buddies. Hot Mike. Uh, uh, the Jedi way, spill the tequila. So much happening
Starting point is 01:55:38 all my channel plus the truth, reactions and reviews, all of that. And tonight will have my out of theater reaction for Wuthering Heights. Thanks, Christian. Thanks, thanks everybody. Have a great Monday. Thank you, to Roca. Thank you. You guys. One, John, don't run away yet. I got screw face here. Oh, screw face. Got to get scruff. Oh, shit. Now the show gets on.
Starting point is 01:55:58 Screw face showed up. That's right. He's the best. What you've been? CBP over here. They didn't let you go. Look at that. They didn't let you go.
Starting point is 01:56:04 Screw face. Sorry if you already covered this, but what are your thoughts on Superman apparently underperforming according to the, that, that hearing we just talked about. Also, Roka, how do you feel about Benito's performance made me proud and in my mind of Spanish Latino? So he did, we did speak about the performance. And as he said, yeah, he was talking about.
Starting point is 01:56:20 I loved it. Amazing. He cried. And yeah, and he said it just, and the same thing Sam told me to, Sam, Sam, who's, who, if you watch the channel, Sam Puerto Rican and was just said like she had felt like she was there. She had been there. She had been there's experience that she had. So John and Sam both shared that.
Starting point is 01:56:36 As far as Superman goes, I'm glad you brought this up because I haven't really spoke about it yet. Go ahead, but here's the way that I read it. And I could be wrong. People, the cope is real. I don't care. I didn't think Superman was fine. I'm not a big. I prefer man to steal over, over Jamkin, Superman.
Starting point is 01:56:52 So I'll lead with that. But what I got from that. when Ted Sarandos basically said, look, so sometimes when you think a movie's going to perform and you're going to put it out for 45 days, whatever is, and then you scale it back. And then, you scale it back. And like an example of like Superman, whatever, too.
Starting point is 01:57:05 He didn't say Superman fail. What he said was, it didn't hit the expectations. I think they probably thought it was going to make a billion dollars. They probably thought it was going to make $900 billion. It didn't. It made less. It didn't say it didn't make a profit. Right.
Starting point is 01:57:19 They said it didn't hit what they thought it was going to hit. That's the way I read. It's like, no, I think everybody wanted it. I think James Gunn wanted to do more, but they were happy with what they got. They never said it was a failure. They never said that it, I mean, underperformed could mean, again, we aimed for 900. We got 700. That's underperforming.
Starting point is 01:57:41 So that's what I read into it overall, because the reports from Forbes and everything confused me because of the profit that it made and it's okay, that makes sense that it made a profit. It's probably not the profit they wanted to. They probably underperformed, but that's how I read it. Right. It was a very intelligent answer, and he framed it correctly. In the 45-day theatrical window, the standard stuff, right, we saw that Superman by the end of the 45 days was slowing down, whereas Sinners was picking up steam, which is why the window went longer for sinners and why the window went short for Superman.
Starting point is 01:58:14 That just basically means that Superman was front-loaded, whereas Sinners was a slow burn. That's the difference. And so I thought it was a very smart, intelligent answer, but people are going to pick up on it and push that. narratives. Oh, it underperformed now. Or, oh, he doesn't know what he's talking about this bullshit. He hates James Gunn. But again, he just gave a really smart answer. Yeah, underperformed as opposed to a loss are two different things. Yeah, exactly. Here's our movie that's coming out this year. We want, our goal is that we're going to hit 975 million. How much did it make? Right. 675. Do we make a profit? Yeah, but not as much as we wanted to. Why aren't we
Starting point is 01:58:47 underperform? Yeah. If Mandu and Grogo comes out, it makes $450. You can say, or 400. Yeah, they could still make money on it. But it's probably under the performance. Totally. Right, right, right. Big Bang, O-T-4. Okay. Night of Seven Kingdom is so good.
Starting point is 01:59:02 I hope they adapt the Black Pire Rebellion next. Duncan Egg Best Game of Thrones duo already. I want to see Duncan. I mean, I want to see Egan the Conqueror, man. Yeah. That's what I want to see. You keep mentioning that guy. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:59:15 What is it? This is last. I know. This is the last one for now. Crash Panda 33-48. Super Bowl is at SOFI next year. I predict halftime will go to Billy. Eilish who's in L.A. native. Maybe the chili peppers get the green day spot.
Starting point is 01:59:29 Potentially. That's impossible. That's not about Billy Elish at the Super Bowl. I don't know about that, but we'll see. But she does, Billy Elish doesn't have like a lot. Isn't she like kind of more like sad songs? Yeah. I don't she's not like a rousing. Yeah. I don't know that's necessarily. Home or email. I don't I don't I don't know if that, if that happens. Um, all right. Well, for now, if there's anything else that hop, that, that pops in, I'll read them. John. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you guys. Thank you to everybody who contributed here today. Thank you for all. Make sure you join that discord. Make sure you join the clips channel, man. We're trying to hit 30,000 by the end of the year.
Starting point is 02:00:04 We put all of our clips out here today. We're going to try to start moving and putting some other clips, not just the movie clips. We're going to try to do some of the funnier moments, some of the other things. So if there's things, actually, that would be helpful in the Discord. If there's things that you see in this show every day, that you're like, you know what? This should be clipped out. It'd be funny to see this. That moment when they were talking about this, let's see that cliped out. We're going to try to get turning things into shorts, into more clips,
Starting point is 02:00:31 but we'd love to hear from the audience and what they, what they think. So thanks again, really appreciate you. And that's about it. So again, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, anywhere, podcasts are found.
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