The Kristian Harloff Show - Is Obi Wan Kenobi Season 2 still possible?

Episode Date: June 1, 2023

JOIN THE SITE! http://www.thekristianharloff.com Will Obi Wan Season 2 happen? Should it? Deborah Chow was asked that very question. Her answer seems to leave the door open. Temura Morrison will retur...n in Star Wars, but it looks like he will portray Rex in Ahsoka. Knights Of The Old Republic is still alive? Across The Spiderverse is around the corner, Kristian saw it and gives a short review. How will The Flash do in theaters? This and more on today's Big Thing with Kristian, Steph and Mike! #StarWars #ahsoka #kenobi #DC #DCU #spiderman  ATHLETIC GREENS: http://www.athleticgreens.com/bigthing RUMPL: http://www.rumpl.com/thebigthing GREEN CHEF: http://www.greenchef.com/thing60 MINTMOBILE: http://www.mintmobile.com/thing CARBON HEALTH: https://carbonhealth.com/virtual-care/telehealth OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-big-thing-kh-channel?ref_id=27393 FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1KPH42T0TP0PG?ref=cm_sw_em_r_un_un_djbxgIW5ZQMMg SCHMOEDOWN ARCHIVE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMovieTriviaSchmoedownArchives Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/harloff Become a Patreon of the Schmoedown: http://patreon.com/schmoedown OTHER GREAT CONTENT: REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT368qY7sfE0nKE4c04CqGvu TV REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT1LU-t2Z9AD5UJDiWW4pS_E STAR WARS SHOW https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT0XmfpbblkF9PY7uO2qhbN6 THE BIG THING PODCAST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT3KAwbzDsv6mdR-gwUiydQg

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Starting point is 00:00:48 So thank you to Carbon Health. Really, really happy to be working with them. Check out the link in the description. It's Wednesday. That's right. We got a big thing. That's tight. Great song.
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Starting point is 00:01:11 I did. Why? Because I drank a lot of coffee. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the show. We're going to talk about some Star Wars stuff. Hell yeah. We're going to talk about Debra Chow talking about Obi-Wan season two,
Starting point is 00:01:22 making it seem like it's popular. Is that a good thing, a bad thing? Skeleton crew. List of all the writers coming up in this piece. Tomor Morrison, he might be playing Rex in Asoka. Good thing, bad thing? I think it's a good thing. That more as far as Star Wars, we have a few more questions.
Starting point is 00:01:40 And as far as regular movie news, Henry Cavill, giving the endorsement to Sasha Kale over at the Flash movie, a Supergirl. We have the new Spider-Man movie. I saw it. I'm going to talk about that. one for sure and that's it man i got step and mike with me here today on the big thing so thanks for joining us as always please if you haven't already hit that button man help us get to 100 000 we're approaching 80 approaching 80 means it's a little 20 away and we need your help so do it
Starting point is 00:02:10 gonna be in new york june 23rd get your tickets now we're selling more and more we're getting very close to selling out finally so get us get us those tickets get us those tickets yeah sure just send them to me i'll be there but get yourself some tickets as well Live streaming also available at the Christian Harlof.com. All right. Let's get into it. It's the big thing. Me, Steph and Mike, I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:02:30 You're ready too. That's why you're here. Let's do it. Welcome back, one and all, to the big thing. It's me. A-Hawai. Steph's the Brahe. Ahoi.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I can't top that. I'm going to try. Ahoi's a good one. What was the... Ahoi, matey. That was my hook hand, too. It's pretty good. I've done a hooy, and I've done...
Starting point is 00:03:03 What was the other one that I did was howdy. Howdy. Howdy? I'm throwing a top of the morning to you. Top of the morning to you. Yeah, you're pretty Irish. Top of the morning to you. Yeah, I'm Irish.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Kalanowski. It's pretty Irish. Welcome back. Mike, it's been a month. It's not been a month. It's been like three weeks ago. Close to it. So, yeah, we're doing news now.
Starting point is 00:03:22 What's this? Yeah, thanks for watching the show. Mike, I thought, do you know how many times Christian's gone into bits of you? And I was like, Mike's going to see it. He watches the show. You're like, you don't see it. Why do you think I do it? What are the bits?
Starting point is 00:03:33 What do you got bits? Well, I did it. Here comes comedy man. He did in front of Frank Janish. I did in front of Frank Janish. That guy, that clown with his numbers. No, he didn't do anything. He just listened to poor guy.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Just numbers. I just, I'll do, you want to see my impression? Yeah, you want to see my impression of you? Yeah, here we go. No, no, ask me a question. I'm going to ask you a question about, about, what are you most excited about with the flesh? But Keaton Batman, of course. Why?
Starting point is 00:03:56 Why? Because that's my Batman. Well, let me tell you something. The reason why I think that, if I can for a second. I think that the, Keaton's great. I mean, Keaton's great. Bale did a lot of great stuff too, but I'm sorry, I'm sorry, go ahead, go finish it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:08 So what I was saying with is we're going to say, well, when I say, I say a couple things to it, and every once in a while, I say, Okay, but he accurate or a work. What is this cord? You got to work just fucking. And I love how when I do, he's like, he throws it to me, and I know he's throwing it to me, and then I'll go in it. He's just like, wait, I don't have anything to say now?
Starting point is 00:04:26 No, I don't anything to say now. Are we back? Are we back? We're back. It's my favorite. Nice, awkward pause that, for the good, pretzel in your mouth and everything. It's great radio. You're giving very much like, get off my lawn.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Does he ever not? You're just now figuring this out about me? That's what I love about it. He knows himself. Yeah, I'm the Ron Swanson of the big thing. You really are. It's so good. Someone called me Ron Swanson once and I'm like, yeah, that's me. I hate to admit it, but I do miss when you're not here. I hate to miss. I agree. I add the juzh to it. Yeah, if that's what you call it. Yeah, sure. But I do I add the Polish sausage. Yeah, well, that's what she said. Okay, let's get into off the rails. Some of these topics.
Starting point is 00:05:10 And as we, Mike is now going to know about this as well. So the last couple of weeks, we started doing a thing on Wednesday where there's just not a lot of Star Wars news overall right now. And Asoka will be out, skeleton crew will be out and we'll cover it in depth as we always do once those shows are out.
Starting point is 00:05:26 But in the meantime, we're going to cover as many Star Wars news that we can up top, talk about that. And then we'll transition into some other stories. There's, like I mentioned, there's that Supergirl story, there's some other stuff. And what I found that you guys really enjoyed, at least when Steph was here, people were like, well, I wanted to hear Steph's perspective on something other than Star Wars. And you get that. You get the stuff that you like, plus new stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:47 And Mike, when he was on capes and cows, people loved hearing his take on the comic book movies. So now you get a little bit of a mixture of both now, too. So we're going to talk about the first thing. And that's this story about Debra Chow. Okay. So this is comicbookmovie. dot com. Deborah Chow was asked about season two and she said there's 10 more years before New Hope. That's the quote inside of it.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Director Deborah Chow has weighed in on the show's future and while she confirms the first season is singular story, the filmmaker appears to left the door open to telling more. Obi-Wan premiered on Disney Plus last year too much fanfare and while the series wasn't perfect, it did a great job of filling in some of the gaps between Revenge of the Sith and a New Hope. The show even found a way to pit Vader against Obi-Wan but with another decade between that, that moment and the fateful day Skywalker found his way to Ben's hut in the desert, there's clearly more room for stories. The question is, will they ever be told?
Starting point is 00:06:39 Deadline asked Chow if she's planning to head back to this corner of the galaxy. Well, it was conceived as a limited series. It is closed. The filmmaker confirmed before leaving us with a little hope saying, well, there's 10 years before new hope, so never say never. During the same conversation, Chow reflected on the stress that Obi-Wan had during the pandemic. It was pretty intense. Anything with the background was stressful because we had little Leah running around and we didn't get shut down. Full podcast interview is worth checking out. Lucasfilm president of Kathleen Kennedy has made it clear
Starting point is 00:07:10 there are no plans for season two. However, Star Wars remains a big draw on Disney Plus, and even with the streamer looking to curb spend, another batch of episodes would be worthwhile expense. That's to be debated. Alternatively, a movie might be fun, but Obi-Wan Kenobi ended in a somewhat definitive fashion and would be ashamed to tell just another story for the sake of it.
Starting point is 00:07:29 I agree with that. However, if they could find the right tale to tell, not a bad thing. Anyway, that's from comic book movie. Let's, let's, I think that it's so crazy, right? Where you go back and you think about Obi-1, season one, before, you and I've talked about this many times. It just could be the best Star Wars Sin's Empire.
Starting point is 00:07:46 And it was, well, to us, it wasn't. Correct. Right. So at that time, we would have had a conversation along the lines of, well, this show nails it and they leave it open. Yeah, put season two out there, man. Why close the door? for the way that they told this story
Starting point is 00:08:00 I don't think they need to tell another one I mean that's my personal opinion I'm curious what you think stuff I can't remember what I would have thought then but I don't I still think I might have not been really into a season two just because we open up a new hope
Starting point is 00:08:18 with this crazy old Ben that I don't know I think it like is takes away from the story if there's much more that goes on in his life other than him making this massive sacrifice to protect and watch over Luke. Right. So, and then when you put that together with how the season went,
Starting point is 00:08:36 which I actually liked and loved a lot of it, but liked it all in all, I definitely don't think you need a season two. Mike? I'm going to talk now. Please. Look, I'm very proud of you. You just did this now. I'm very proud of it.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I'm collecting my thoughts. Yeah, you're really, really well done. You know, because I'm probably going to say something that's not going to win me a lot of fans. I love it. Give it to him. I don't think season one added anything to the lore of Star Wars and the story. I'm thinking you're going to piss off that many fans with that one. It just didn't.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And it didn't need to be told. And if anything, it cheapens when we see him again, a new hope to me. And I, everyone that disappears, we don't need their story. We don't even know what's going on with them.
Starting point is 00:09:14 It just, there's a mystery to it. Like, if anything, I would have loved to see a story without Vader, without Leia and him just being a hermit, helping people, helping people get caught up an adventure that's outside of the Skywalker saga.
Starting point is 00:09:28 I just, you know, when he does see Vader again, it's there. And, you know, so no, I don't think we need to see it again. Yeah, see, look, let him be a hermit. Let him just go off. I think the points that you have off of the season that we saw is a valid way to feel. I think I disagree in the fact that I think that it's in the same way where George Carlin always talked about comedy, where anything can be funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:52 But not anyone can make it funny, right? Okay. In the same way that, like, this story, the right? writing just wasn't good. It just wasn't a very well-written series. And I think that, like, I still think it with a better written, because you could have written a really poorly version of Andor and everyone would have said, no one needed Andor. Yeah. No one needed it. It was so poorly written. It was so corny. It was so cheesy. Who needed an Andor series? No one is saying that now that is really, really love the writing of it because it's
Starting point is 00:10:18 brilliantly written. Yeah, you're right. If you brilliantly write something and you really have, like, I was always an advocate of having Vader in the series, but the reason why is, I I always thought they were going to kind of mirror it around the return of the Jedi story point, and that was when he says to, look, Obi-Wan once thought as you did. And people are, well, he thought that in Revenge of the Sith. When? When he went to go kill him? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:38 He didn't feel it then. And you don't really get that in the Obi-Wan series, too. He just feels bad. He's like, oh, my friend's still alive. What do I do? And he's never said to him, come back to the light, have those moments to where it almost seems like he's going to, like this. Yeah. And this is, again, it says nothing to do with Moses.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Ingram, but it could have been any character. Massive error to focus on anyone except those two. Or you have it where he's, you take the Leah thing out of it, and you have so many flashbacks of Anakin and Obi-One being brothers, and where Ben's alone going, wait a minute, I got
Starting point is 00:11:11 to try again. I've got to save this guy. And he goes off to find him and realize oh, my best friend is gone. I can't. Well, same thing. I love. That would have worked for me. And I love that. The actress that played young Leah, I love her. She was great in Boogieman too, but I don't know if young
Starting point is 00:11:27 Leah should have been a focus and all that because it doesn't seem like they barely even know each other from the conversation that she's having. And Obi-One, you once served my father. It's not Hey, Obi-Wan, remember that time? We spent all that time together and you saved my life and how much it it had it been. It didn't have that kind of feel to it. It had it feel like, oh, I know of you because of my
Starting point is 00:11:43 dad. Yeah. And the things that he said, there's so much more to it than, like, so it was written terribly. It was written terribly. There were some great amazing moments in it. Like the fight was awesome and some other things. And when Vader was killing people in the village like that classic Vader and having him
Starting point is 00:11:58 but there was and Vader's not going to let anybody live he stabs her and he just lets her live no he kill her that's what he didn't I mean they just until he's you're dead yeah and it was just poorly written stuff so if it's going to be approached the same
Starting point is 00:12:13 way then no I don't think they should do a season two yeah I think it's also opening up for even more criticism and they just should be focusing on what they're doing now which is their new shows and these movies that it's leading to. I'll say this, a caveat to that.
Starting point is 00:12:31 I would rather see another chapter in Book of BobaFet than see an Obi-1 show. Because I think the stories are- Doors open a little bit more, right? Yeah, doors open a little bit more. Either course-correct or kind of, you know... You could spin it, you could change the perception of Boba-Fet season two way faster than you could on Obi-1,
Starting point is 00:12:50 and there's more risk in Obi-1. I hear what you say, because the things... If you turned around, because everybody, Everybody out there who's watching it right now, and I don't want to see Boba, hell of all. boring. Right. But if Boba Fett turned into that thing that they said they were going to give you,
Starting point is 00:13:02 that hardcore gangster kind of, you know, into the limits that they can on Disney. Kind of what, Tomorrow said he wanted. Well, they said that you do it. And like they did at the end of the Boba Fet. I mean, excuse me, at End of Mandalorian, and Boba Fett kills Bitfortuna. And they change that tune quick. You can turn people around real quick.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Like the way that they did, I haven't watched any of it, but I've seen the Picard or Picard or, is that what the season three? to the first two seasons. All I've seen with that show, I haven't seen a minute of it, but what I have seen is that hardcore Star Trek fans that the first two were really not good,
Starting point is 00:13:35 or a lot of, they haven't gotten great reviews. They liked one, but two, they're like, okay, they're saying. But everybody raves about this season.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Three is the greatest Star Trek they've ever gotten. And from what I heard, and again, I can't speak on it, except the fact that I, that they brought in someone who really knew Star Trek
Starting point is 00:13:48 for the third season. Yeah. Whoever might be, but whatever it is, is someone who really knew it, and it was the writing, and it was the tone. And they changed.
Starting point is 00:13:55 So it can happen if they did it the right way. But I think you're right. I think you have a better chance to do that because you've already taken the good story elements out of... And it'd be cheaper. Obi-Wan now. Be cheaper show. But, you know, the other question,
Starting point is 00:14:10 I guess the next story is really saying in the, I guess, Tomor Morrison realm, if you will, is this particular story with him, potentially going into Asoka. Tomor Morrison, who we were just talking about, obviously, you know him from... This is Star Wars Newsnet, our buddy of Miguel Fern.
Starting point is 00:14:25 and as according to one take news, tomorrow Morrison is coming back to the Mandoverse, but he's not coming back as Boba this time. The website has learned that the actor will be playing Captain Rex in the upcoming Asoka series, which debuts this August on Disney Plus. This makes sense, considering
Starting point is 00:14:42 that Asoka and Captain Rex have a history. After they bonded during the Clone Wars, Rex returned in rebels to assist the title group in some of their missions after Asoka sent them to find Rex and other clones that have to survive the war. We still don't know if Rex is dead during the new Republic era, but he could be part of a flashback. Also, inside the report, there's a mention of Lucasfilm executive's being very impressed by how
Starting point is 00:15:03 the series came together, and it was a big factor in Dave Flanagan's own Star Wars movie. Said film will act as the culmination of the ongoing plot thread that was stated with the Medellorian that will continue with Asoka and beyond. A second season of the Rosario-Dawson-led series will depend on how the first one performs per reports. That's why they haven't made any announcements yet about season. two of Asoka because I want to obviously see ratings-wise how it's going to do. I think it's going to be pretty damn well.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Lots to talk about. Let's start stuff with Tamara Morrison. Rebels, you're a massive rebels fan. You're a big Asoka girl, do you think this is kind of like a duh, right? Yeah, it's one of Osoka's biggest storylines
Starting point is 00:15:47 from Clone Wars to Rebels is her relationships with the troopers, especially Rex. So I feel like she had the most powerful relationship with them. So it makes sense that they would be involved in Rex in some way. I don't think it has to be massive, but a little
Starting point is 00:16:03 bit. I think that's like a great nod to the fans and the people who have watched Rebels and Clown Wars and could be like integrated to people who haven't watched Rebels. And you're like, oh, okay, that makes sense with what was happening with the movies and then this. How much of rebels have you watched I? I was up, I started that
Starting point is 00:16:21 that was back when I did far, far away. You know, I remember. No, I know. I definitely. but it was right when the start of that show happened. You haven't gone back yet. No, I've not. Are you going to do it before Asoka? You should. How many episodes of seasons is it?
Starting point is 00:16:32 I think it's four. I think it's four seasons? 22? Episodes, four? 88 episodes? I don't know if that's true. I don't think that's true. I think that's Clone Wars.
Starting point is 00:16:40 I don't think... Man, it's a lot of TV. I don't think Rebels has that many episodes. Are you sure? I mean, didn't you start watching? That's more recent to me, though. Let's see. It's more fresh there.
Starting point is 00:16:49 How many episodes are Rebels? are Rebels. Let's go season three. I thought they were like 12. Steph's right. 22. Holy crap, that's a lot of TV.
Starting point is 00:17:02 So it was 16 in season one, 22 in the... Okay, yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 38? That's a lot. So there's only two seasons? But there's four seasons.
Starting point is 00:17:11 But there's four seasons of Rebels, but it's also like, only like 30-minute episodes. Let me ask you guys this. Oh, good. Is there a hair on the microphone? Okay, is there a hair on the microphone? Yes, you picked it off.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Is that your question? That's good content. What's better? Clone Wars or Rebels? Because they're both beloved. Yeah. What's better? Fans?
Starting point is 00:17:30 Personal preference, I have rebels, but there's a lot of people who will put Clone Wars over that. I think Clone Wars has some episodes that are just next-level Star Wars and where they can go. But I think there's a lot of episodes of the week type thing. I think that some people would argue that Rebels has a few filler episodes here and there, but I think that it's a more continuous through line from me. But what do you like better? I like Rebels as a show better, but if you go,
Starting point is 00:17:56 like, I think the final season six of Clone Wars is the best animated season. Okay, let me piggyback that. And then did Rebels, though, because it doesn't seem like it does, people always tell me with Clone Wars like, yeah, get through the first couple seasons and then it gets good.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Rebels from the get-go was knocking you in the nuts. They're telling you the story right away, where Clone Wars is in, telling you certain adventures that are happening throughout the Clone Wars. Okay, okay. This is about this band of rebels, and you get attached to the characters a little bit more than you do. They did in the pilot episode as connected to those characters.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Yeah. And they're new characters. Other than Asoka, we don't know those characters. And she doesn't show up until, like, the end of season one or something. And that's a cool part about it. Like Clone Wars instantly had all of the main players. And, like, Anagan, Padmay, everyone. This one's like, oh, all these new characters.
Starting point is 00:18:45 So they just did more, like, get to know these characters. off in this show specifically. So it feels like more of a family, if that makes sense. And I think you'll dig it also because they use a lot of the Macquarie art. That's true. Because Zeb is the original design for Chubaka. Yeah, and I remember talking with Roka, there was a troop transport that was a toy.
Starting point is 00:19:07 And they used that in the show that never was seen in live action. And I was like, that's the toy that I had. Yeah, they used a ton of that stuff. They used a lot of stuff. And that kind of leads us into the phloney part of it all, because he's created so many new characters. And it's also why I'm pretty adamant guys, and I'm pretty, I'm going to dig my heels into this.
Starting point is 00:19:25 I don't think he was very involved in Mandelorean season three at all, because math lines up, how the hell could he have been? If he's working on this series, directing a few episodes, writing the whole damn thing, I'm not telling you that he wasn't there sometimes. Yeah, I'm not telling you wasn't there sometimes, like, you know, but his office is there. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:45 But, like, there's also. probably not a mystery is why they also said to Rick Famuania, like we're going to have the executive produced. He got a big bump of it because Pheloni probably is what they gave Filoni the show. And if you're Faloni, he's going, I'm putting everything I got
Starting point is 00:20:01 into this thing for various reasons. One, it's my characters. I love Asoka more than anything. That's my character. I get to deal with her more. I have someone like Rosario Dawson playing her. I can do these things. I can make an heir to the empire type story. Plus what they said in this
Starting point is 00:20:17 court, he knows that if he makes the best Star Wars thing made so far on his own now, in the same way they gave Debra Chow, take Obi-Wan and go with it. They're saying, a Faloni, take Asoka and go with it. And he puts out what people are saying, what we were saying about what we thought Obi-Wan was going to be. That this, holy
Starting point is 00:20:33 crap, and what they're apparently saying, of course he's going to get his own movie. Of course he's going to, this is going to ascend more, he's becoming more, he's getting the emperor seat soon, you know, because it's because he's rising to power. why wouldn't you put all this effort?
Starting point is 00:20:48 So it just, to me, anybody that tells me that he was very involved in season three, whirr! No chance. I don't care. Maybe he was. But at that point, I think Mando 3,
Starting point is 00:21:02 I think the show kind of runs itself. And I don't mean that, like, you know, he didn't need to be there like season one. Well, that's right. Every day. Like, oh, this technology, the volume, this, that. The costume. How does he walk?
Starting point is 00:21:11 How does this? Like, hey, we did two seasons that are great. Okay, I got to go take care of this. You guys got this. Yeah, I'm just, I've asked people, and they've all said the same thing. No, he's been there. He was there.
Starting point is 00:21:20 He was there. I'm like, I don't, I just, math, it doesn't line up. It doesn't line up. That's not math thing. He could tell me. He could tell me that he was there. You're a liar.
Starting point is 00:21:28 You're a liar. Bullshit. Were you there every day? I was there every day. I wrote a lot of the episode. That's what I'm going to say. To Floney. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:36 What was that? He's got that hat on. He's like, he's got that what he would say. He's going, interesting, interesting. That's his answer. Interesting. Love to get him back on the show.
Starting point is 00:21:49 After I've called him a bullshit artist. I'm sure he's going to come back. Steps on wing, man. Wait a second. The other thing that we, before I move on, I also want to talk about tomorrow morse. I mean, this makes sense that Rex would be in this because of the,
Starting point is 00:22:03 it allows him to, it would actually make no sense if he wasn't. And with Filoni directing this and writing this, of course he's going to put him in there. And Zeb, we know that Zeb's probably going to show up now too. Callis, this is going to be a Rebels, fans dream. Now, the question
Starting point is 00:22:19 will be, I'm hoping that at the point that you watch this show, you also are a rebels fan, so you understand it more, but for sake of argument, you're not, right, and you don't know enough about it. I hope that when they bring these characters in, you're not like, what was that, guys? I didn't get it.
Starting point is 00:22:36 He's got to make it for the... He's got to make it for everybody. Now, is it still not official that Canaan is in this? It is official, and I'll tell you why it's official, because I had Freddie Prince Jr. on this show. I don't remember. Ask him if he was going to be in a show. He flat out and...
Starting point is 00:22:50 Well, he said no to playing the role. Well, you're not going to have somebody else play him. Well, because he can't... You don't think so? Spoilers for anybody here. Because Mike's going to be ruined for it. So if you haven't seen rebels, fast forward. Fast forward.
Starting point is 00:23:04 You've been fast forward. I think I know this, but go on. Canaan dead, boy. I know that. Yeah. Kenan dead. So if he came back. I didn't mean Canaan.
Starting point is 00:23:12 I mean Ezra. That's what I meant. Elra's coming. But it's not official. Yeah, it is. He was in the trailer. He's in a video. He's in a hologram.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Yeah. But we still, that one actor was up for it. But he, but he tweeted out after that hologram came out. Did he? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. That guy's,
Starting point is 00:23:28 anytime I say something and people like, it's not official. I hope he's good. So I'm just like. I hope he's good that guy because I was really pulling for. Me and I'm a suit. Yeah. That guy needs to keep quiet. What did he do now?
Starting point is 00:23:38 Oh, the whole thing with the mermaid popped up. He's like, it's not going to make a billion like our film because we had repeat viewing. and everyone was just like, they went after him. Was that recently? Yeah, he took it down fast. He badmouthed a little mermaid. Wait, why is it a compete? Yeah, why is he?
Starting point is 00:23:52 Because he tried to make it a competition. The problem is that. And people are like, that's another person to color. And in a Disney film, you're going after him. It was like, dude, not a good look. It was a bad look. Meena Mossad, I think he was so good in that movie. And he's just, look, this is the problem with being an actor, man.
Starting point is 00:24:04 It's like you have certain roles and you just can't work. And I remember him voicing concern about that he hadn't gotten cast for something else, too. and he just hadn't been able to book a role. He's probably frustrated as hell. And I get it. He's a really good actor, but it's like, that's, yeah, that's the same team, guy. Yeah, you got to play it right. But also, he could have gotten more press off of that.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I'm saying that. Oh, another live action. Good look, everybody. And then people are like, oh, remember him. A friendly competition. Can you guys beat us? Yeah, I hope you do. I'm of two minds of that.
Starting point is 00:24:33 All right, well, look, just do minds of it. All right, take your mind somewhere else. I'm just saying. All right, the last story I want to talk about Star Wars before we move on to some of the main topics. the main pop culture movie news topics that is. Star Wars Night's the Republic remake has been given by Embracer Group. Embracer Group has given Star Wars Night's The Old Republic remake update after months of silence. So what is the update?
Starting point is 00:24:58 I'm about to tell you. As part of the Embracer Group's year-end report, there is a section that includes all games that are in development are planned for release from the company from May 24th, 2023, alongside its titles of Two Raider and Ride 5, the Knights of Republic remake is listed. According to Insider Gaming, it's listed for release on PlayStation 5 and PC and is apparently in development at
Starting point is 00:25:22 an internal studio and Embracer. It's welcome news as the Star Wars Knights of Republic remake is a turbulent one. The game was initially revealed in 2021 when they showed a brief teaser. Since then, reports from Jason Schreier noted that it would no longer work on the game, Asper,
Starting point is 00:25:38 and that Sabre interactive, other subsidiary of the Embracer group would take it on in development. It's unclear what exactly caused Asper Media to put the game on pause, but the game does still seem to be on track for a release at some point in the future. All right, this is one of those things now it's starting to turn into, even though it says that it's going to happen and these things are going on. How's that going for you?
Starting point is 00:26:02 Good? I can't. What? What? What do you think about that story, Mike? You're an icon. Dembrayer with the great with the, now that's a game that everyone's been clamoring. for, clamoring for.
Starting point is 00:26:18 I love this. I never played it, so I can't talk on it. Good. So you decided to eat. I should run for, you should run for politics. I'd be a great politician. You kidding me? You would.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Absolutely kidding me. I'm not kidding, you would. Thank you. Because he's an actor. People love me. You don't know. The vitriol in which you said that also in a certain way, but it wasn't a venture towards an actor.
Starting point is 00:26:40 It was a vitriol towards like politicians. You're just like, because they're just full of it. They're just actors. They're really, it's just about like That's all the show. It's all the show. It's puppet theater. It's true. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Political theater. Right. I think the game is, people love it. It's not for me. Why? Why is it? I'm not an RPG guy. Oh.
Starting point is 00:26:58 I'm not an RPG guy. All right. Take it easy. Because it's like, I got a level up this and this and this and that. The story is phenomenal. I know. I know it is.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Okay, can I say something? No. Yes. Of course you can. The story is amazing. The game plays a little too dated for you. I'm, playing Jedi Survivor at the same time, which the graphics are unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:27:20 You're talking about 10 years worth of different. Right. And so it's not fair, but it's a messed up view where I go to it. And I'm like, and then I'm on my mouse, right? Instead of being on the. Right. So it's, but I think that they should just replicate it almost exactly how. Is that the plan to just update it? That's a great question.
Starting point is 00:27:40 So originally they were going to, there was the announcement for it. And then whoever the game developer was or whoever was running it, the woman that was running it said, and from what I remember, is that she was going to make major changes to it and make it some people like, why would you make major changes to it? And then she was gone.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Okay. So then there was something else that. Yeah, there was something else that they were going to do. And then it didn't happen or whatever. And I'm starting to feel this is almost like what's happening with Blade. Oh. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:28:11 It's like, yeah, it's going to happen. Is it really? That ain't happening. Right. I'm going to say that. That's what I mean. So I don't know if this is ever going to happen. And I still hope that they just, it goes back to the conversation we were just having about like Obi-1 season two and even Boba-Fet, right?
Starting point is 00:28:28 It's why I am so excited about like the Acolyte and not just because of what the content is about, but it's because they're finally going back 100 years and they're going, there's nobody. Yoda is the only person that we really could use that anybody's going to know about. and we've got to build around all these new characters. The Mangled movie, if that ever happens, it's supposed to happen 2,500 or 25,000 years before New Hope, whatever, too. So it sets up all these things that you can't connect to it. And that's why I'm hoping that they do the Nights or Republic remake
Starting point is 00:29:02 because of what Steph just said, right? It's like the story is fantastic. I can go back and play it because I played it when it came out. I played it back then. And so to me, it's like I can go through all that. But my daughter tried to play it. Same thing. She's like graphics are terrible.
Starting point is 00:29:16 It's like it's 10 years ago, right? It's 10 years ago. But it's like the story itself is really, really good and should be told in the new medium. Because it'll also reintroduce this era to new gamers and new people. So I'm hoping that they actually do it. And they don't change the ending because, you know, you like that woman, well, we got to change it up. We got to do this. Don't change shit.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Right. I don't think so. So you just want the old game on a new, Or make it to a movie or show. Yeah, but both. I don't know about that man. But both, I think because you do, because what you do is, but you can, because you can add, it's very similar to what we're just talking about Little
Starting point is 00:29:54 Mermaid, right? Yeah, Little Mermaid. A little mermaid. They added a lot of things to the story that I thought benefited the story. And I was hesitant on the same thing. I didn't think it was going to be very good, to be honest. I thought she was going to be great. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:06 So is that like saying to me? No. Mike, we're going to remake Batman 89. We're going to add a few more things in. into it. Why not? Why isn't that the same thing? No, it's not the same. Because I love the story. I love the characters. I just want to see a little bit more of it. Now, you talk to me, remaking the
Starting point is 00:30:20 the book, the comic book that came out. I'm talking about two different mediums. You're talking about video game and movie. Remaking a movie and remake... You just put Little Mermaid in there. Yeah, so what? I'm just saying that... Your analogy is terrible then. You're terrible. Well, Little Mermaid was made in like the
Starting point is 00:30:36 60s and it's... The Hans Christian Anderson one. Did you think it was in the 1960s? The little mermaid? It was antiquated A.F. What? She's like this gorgeous mermaid with this awesome fish tail with all of her hot sisters and her hot dad. She's like, screw it.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I saw this guy on a boat one time and I'm going to risk it all. It's a bachelor. That's, I think, what you and Harry did, isn't it? I mean. Yeah, you're kind of like, risk it all. Moving in. Yeah, I know, but I didn't have to give us my legs. Instagram disagrees.
Starting point is 00:31:11 This picture. Next thing I picture you was like, Step by you in a wheelchair. It's like, I gave it up for Harry. Now I got these legs. Now I got no legs. Wow. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Unbelievable. Did she get legs to be with the guy? I mean her version of legs, her fish tail. She gave up her tail. All of this makes me exhausted. And I'll tell you why. Why? I didn't have my athletic greens today.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I got to have athletic greens. And I'll tell you why I love AG1 so much. And not only AG1. Afterwards, I'm going to tell Steph about this. I'll be very upset with Steph by the time I come out of this break and she didn't tell me that her and her prince eric didn't snuggle on up with a rumble blanket let's talk about both of them right now our next partner is athletic greens i take a g1 by athletic greens every day and you know it's true i've been telling you guys about it for
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Starting point is 00:35:19 I didn't have rumple. You can talk to her about the athletic greens. You talked to me about the rumble blankets. So you did it. You did it. Dude, I'm telling you what I love about them. I need a nap.
Starting point is 00:35:27 And there's also, they also have great ones for like, like I, for my daughter's soccer game. I go. I don't have kids. Thanks for that. You don't need that. But you have it for the movie purposes.
Starting point is 00:35:37 You have it for snuggling. No, I think you're mad. That's a choice. Yeah. And Al Pacino was he, 83? Oh, yeah. I just had a kid. Whoa!
Starting point is 00:35:46 Genero did it. Nice. said okay okay yeah hot shot I might be dead in five years you know why I got a kid my wife was in front of me bend it over she had a great ass swifed down all his wife is 29 29 it's unbelievable 29 and he's 83 I mean it's like that's like you that's like you not dating someone who's not even a lot your mouth no it seems true no yeah she had and I kind of got it in a little bit we're talking like like what does that say like you're gonna not be around for your kids
Starting point is 00:36:17 I just said. I mean, we're just like, it's like, I just listen to shit. I mean, the kid will be taken care of the rest of his life. Taking care of no matter, you'll never want for anything. But he won't know who his dad is.
Starting point is 00:36:25 But he won't know who his dad is. Right. I don't know. That's, want to know who your daddy is? Turn on sin of a woman. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Hey, I'm an absentee landlord. I want to know, like, I want a show, maybe I'll make this show of what, like, a couple like that talks about,
Starting point is 00:36:42 like, what's the hangout session is like. Yeah, it's, it's her going like this. I got about 10 more years. I'm going to be loaded. Mama not going to walk for us. I love myself.
Starting point is 00:36:55 I love myself some out. But I mean, look, go out on your own terms, I guess, right? Hey, I went out my way. Does he have kids? He's got like 80 kids. Okay, I was, no, he's got four.
Starting point is 00:37:05 This is a legacy thing. Okay, still. He has four kids and, you know, 82. Well, I mean, it's better than Nick Cannon. He has 11 now. Does he really? Yes. Holy crap.
Starting point is 00:37:13 How many with Mariah? Two, just twins. Mariah Carey, Nick Cannon? Listen, what are you going to do? They were married. That was like the, I think those were his first kids, and then he just went out. And he keeps going out. He's got 15?
Starting point is 00:37:26 11. You listen to anything anyone says? She literally just said that. Shut your mouth. Push those buttons. Perfect. I'm just dead. Got rid of your stupid.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Put that on a t-shirt and saw that thing. Shut your mouth and push those buttons. Push the buttons, Billy. All right. Let's get to. It's like retweeting your own comment. That's right. I always do.
Starting point is 00:37:49 More news. So the Flash star Sasha Cal is my pronouncing that right? Claims ousted Superman actor. Austed. Real nice comic book movie. Henry Cavill... Let me guess Josh Wilding. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Of course. Why does he hate Superman? He runs comic movie news. If there's a cheering Marvel article, he writes it. If it's a bashing DC, he writes it. Anyone else there's like Roar Machine and stuff that are right kind of more biased. Mark Cassidy a lot. Mark Cassidy's really good.
Starting point is 00:38:13 But anything at times bashing DC, Josh Wilder. Well, he's not bashing in here. Osted? That's in the time. That's blushing. I don't know if it's bashing. That's clickbaiting bullshit. Let's call it what it is.
Starting point is 00:38:24 I think it's unnecessary, but I don't think it's bashing. Former Superman actor. Let's see. How about that? There, I'm an editor-in-chief right there. I'm your Perry White. Great Caesar's ghost right there, my friend. Take it easy.
Starting point is 00:38:34 All right, let's get to this question here. Or not question, rather, but the story. Okay. So Warner Brothers' approach to marketing the flash has been undeniably unique with the studio enlisting James Gunniel and Tom Cruise to hype it up is one of the biggest blockbusters ever made. The studio CEO, David Zazlov, has gone so far to call it the best superhero movie he's ever watched. And now there's a couple of weeks left before we're giving the opportunity to judge it for ourselves.
Starting point is 00:38:59 During a recent press conference for The Flash, Supergirl actress reportedly told journalists that she spoke with Henry Camel and Melissa Bonoist to ask for their advice. In the former's case, she claimed that the ousted Man of Steel loved the movie. It's unclear when he actually watched the Flash and whether it would have been the version that saw his Superman inserted back into the DCEU that was shot after his Black Adam cameo, but it was removed by DC Studios before a new CalL is cast for 2005 Superman's legacy. Prior to that, the plan was also for the movie to remove his manna tomorrow from his shared world,
Starting point is 00:39:38 replacing him with Cal's Supergirl. Okay, look, I don't think that was a bashing article. I mean, look, he was not, he was not, you know, he was, he was done dirty. He was done dirty, yeah. Not by gun, but he was done dirty. No, it was just a previous change. There's a regime change. They handled it terribly.
Starting point is 00:39:59 But it's good that he liked it. I mean, the movie itself is really, really good. I'm excited. Now, you've not seen the full film. I mean, so here's, I don't know the answer to that yet. Right. Meaning that I saw a two-hour and 25-minute version, whatever it was. I'm not spoiling anything for anyone.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Don't you spoil anything for me. There's a post-credit scene from what I heard is that there's a different, that the post-credit scene is different. Yeah. So that's interesting. And then. But you did see a post-credit scene? I did.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Okay. Now the question, though, is how different is that scene? Right. The other question is how much of the movie that I saw is either cut, extended on, Um, CGI is different. I heard it's like there's several minutes at the end before the post credits has not been shown yet. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:48 That's all I've heard. Maybe so. I don't want to know what it is so I didn't ask anything further. Well, what I had heard inside of the post credit scene itself is that I saw a version of it. And then the person that I was with said, I saw this movie two weeks ago and that scene was different. And the reveal that they told me of what it was was monstrously different. from what I saw.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Interesting. So I wonder what they're going to show, whether they're going to show what that person saw or what I saw or what nobody saw yet. Or is it a combination of it? Right. And I think that maybe because of what it does, that they didn't want it to get leaked by anybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:26 And they screened it last night. And I went to, when I went to see Spider-Man across the Spider-Verst, there was a separate line of people going to see the Flash. So I wonder what they're showing. I wonder what that one was. Yeah. It's going to be really interesting if it's the final version.
Starting point is 00:41:39 They're trying to keep it under wraps. They want it. We got, what, two more weeks? They're like, hey, we waited four or five years. So let's just. There's a reason, Fry. There's nothing reason. I can tell you this again.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Let's not spoil this. No, and I can tell you that that particular, I understand the reasoning why they wouldn't show anybody to the finished version of this scene. I understand it. If what that person told me turns out to be the thing that they do show, which would be very interesting. It's going to be a lot to talk about.
Starting point is 00:42:05 So, but when it comes to this Seshcal thing, and Henry Cavill just is talking about someone who, and I say this is a compliment, is a business kind of politician as well. Oh, yeah. So what do you think about these comments of Henry Cavill? You're not going to catch him, like, messing up on something.
Starting point is 00:42:24 He's just, he's building computers, he's making money, making his next moves. Like, he knows, I just don't think, like, the Mina Massoud story you just said, hating on anything, especially when it's like this involved with business and your future, I think is a dumb idea and he's not dumb.
Starting point is 00:42:41 But also builds on his legacy of beloved. Right. He's Superman. Right. And also shows him kind of doing the you know, turn the other cheek, right? Yeah. Not that Warner Brothers is slapping him in the face, but you could look at it that way
Starting point is 00:42:56 if you were a fan and he's just like, no, I'm supportive on it and I support her and I watch the movie because there's a lot of actors out of there like, look at Ron Perlman, right? Ron Perlman, who I love. Ron Perlman was in no way, shape, or form going to watch that new Hellboy movie.
Starting point is 00:43:10 He wanted nothing to do with it. And he was on Clare Live. And he's like, I don't watch that. They don't want to be in any. He's like, you could tell. Visibly like, F that. Henry Cavill could have been, and would have been in his right to say, F that. I'm not watching that movie. They cut me out of it. And he watched it. And he checked out. And he
Starting point is 00:43:26 talked about her. And not that what Ron Proman did was wrong, but they're saying in how this is the way that Henry Cavill wanted to portray himself. Yeah. Because Henry Cavill's going to be up for more jobs. And I, and I haven't talked to you about this And this is one of the reasons I'm glad that we're doing this portion of the show. The fantastic forecasting, they've, they're rumored Adam Driver as Sir Richard's,
Starting point is 00:43:47 but I think he's brilliant casting. I couldn't stand when people were saying, they should cast him as Doom. He's played a bad guy before. Right. It's the same thing. It's like the same thing you always hear is like, I want Billy Zane or Brian Cranston for Lex Luthor because you've seen him bald. That's why you want him to be Lex Luthor because he's bald. Like fan casting, thank God
Starting point is 00:44:09 these people are not casting directors. Thank effing God. Casting directors, those are the lives. That's what they do. The great casting directors, they find the people that bring the characters to life in great ways that are outside of the box that bull.
Starting point is 00:44:22 I wasn't a fan of Eisenberg casting, but it was definitely outside of the box and brought a different take to it. Which one? Eisenberg. Eisenberg. Not my choice. Ezra Miller. Not my choice for Barry Allen at all, but it's a different take.
Starting point is 00:44:33 And they're taking swing. So speaking of taking swings, this is why I have been a major advocate for Henry Cavill is Dr. Doom. I think that Henry Cavill is, because if you remember in Secret Wars, he's a good-looking guy, right? Yeah. He's a good-looking guy. He's imposing.
Starting point is 00:44:46 And Henry Cavill can play, you know, he can play the bad guy. He's done it before. So I want to see him. I think that would be. And plus, it would be a great move by Marvel. Yeah. Get him from D.C. What do you think about it? I agree. I think that that would be awesome.
Starting point is 00:45:01 People love Henry Cavill. And if you've, like, seen him in The Witcher, too, he's good at playing different modes of a character, and I think that that's smart. I just think that that's smart. It's what Gunn is doing, too. Like, they're all doing it, and I think it only helps them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Mike, do you think you could see him playing, Doom? Different. I could see it from a physical standpoint. Doom, to me, has to be the smartest man in the room. It's carrying care. I'm smart. I know, but... Building computers.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I'll say this, and this is, again, why I'm not a casting director. My choice would be, someone like Mads-Mickleson. Again, that's why I don't be a castor because it's very obvious on the nose. It's a lot older, too. I know, but it still would work. Cavill would almost lean more into the Julian McMahon, like, good-looking, suave guy. And I know Doom's a good-looking guy, but I think, I just think there's more interesting
Starting point is 00:45:58 choices out there. A younger, oh, my God, a younger Daniel-D-Lewis would have killed it. Even older Daniel-D-Lews. If Daniel-Lews wants to do it, you let him play. That's what I'm playing. That's what you want to play. Older Daniel Day Lewis would still kill it as doing. Yeah, I'd love to see Daniel Day Lewis come out.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Oh, my God. But either way, so there's a lot of stuff coming out, man. There's a lot of stuff that's where right around the corner from, I guess I can transition into this, as I saw across the Spider-Verse last night. Steph is very excited about the movie. She loved the first one. It is the follow-up to the highly anticipated, excuse me, it's a follow-up to the Oscar winning into the Spider-Verse.
Starting point is 00:46:36 and this is a phenomenal movie. It really is. It's not as funny as the first one. It's funny, but it's not, I felt like the first one was just like, joke, joke, joke, but not in a way that was like... They all landed.
Starting point is 00:46:49 They landed, but they landed it appropriately. Like, the stuff with Spider-Ham and Spider-Ham was amazing. But so was Nicholas Cage's... Spider-Noire. Oh, yeah. Totally. So a little less of that, huh?
Starting point is 00:47:00 Which I like. There are jokes, but I just felt like... And this isn't a bad thing. This is a good thing. that Miles Morales is really even though they kind of Gwen's a big focus of it for sure but Miles is you know
Starting point is 00:47:13 it was more even though it was a Miles story in the first one but it really started to focus on like the team Yeah this is more like they focus on Gwen but then they really focus on and it's Miles story. It really is mild story and it's a good thing but it's like it's like the first one had Miles story plus a big team element this is really about discovery of oneself
Starting point is 00:47:32 this is the discovery of finding who you are and what's your purpose and those type of things in general and not just, well, that's what they did in the first one. Not really, because there's more going on to it and they did the same thing well that they did in the first one, and that's the blend of the multiverse
Starting point is 00:47:48 to where I think that the MCU's got a little bit confusing with the multiverse where it's like, wait, but this is what, this, it could get really confusing with considering how much there is, but because the way that they do it and tie it together in this, I don't know how I'm making, this is making sense, but it's making sense.
Starting point is 00:48:05 I think for a big reason for that is the fact that they know in the Spider-Verse, every single Spider-Man is different. Right. I cannot stand the MCU with some are the same, some are not. Some are animals. I cannot stand that. And I know it's because, well, oh, we got to McGuire and McIntyreville, we got to do it. Summer animals are-an-this.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I know, but they're all different. They're all different. Every universe is a different-looking person. I cannot stand that the MCU does that. It drives me. up a wall that they can just like, well, for this one, you're all going to look alike. But in this world, all of you guys are different. I'm like, pick up.
Starting point is 00:48:41 It's funny, too, because I can't wait to talk to like, it tries me crazy. Boy, but were you a big Spider-Man? You're more about me. I'll tell you this. I'm not, I like Peter Parker. I wouldn't say Spitey's in my top five, but I do love Miguel O'Hara. Okay. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:55 I love Tim. Back in 93, they think they came out. You just answered my question because, like, so I love Miguel-Hara. I'm sure that, Coy will have more of the answers for this, but like, I, I, I, as I was watching it, I kind of wished that Coy was with me, because I could be like, well, wait a minute, so that character, that Spider-Man, is that an actual comic? And then, because they show, like,
Starting point is 00:49:13 the comic cover of Miguel O'Harris thing, it's like this big jacked dude. And it's like, so how much, I mean, there's so many years of Spider-Man, I figured that they're all real versions of it. Right. Yeah, they are. I mean, Ben Riley, which is Roy's guy. Right, right, right. So there's a whole bunch of different, and look, and there's some fun cameos in this thing, too, is what I'll say. So, it's a...
Starting point is 00:49:32 I'm so excited. I'm so. I'm so. excited. It's interesting. I'm so excited. It's my most anticipated movie of the year. Is it really? Is it really? And then Dune 2. Why didn't you go last night? Because I sent an email too late. Why didn't you text me? They didn't have plus
Starting point is 00:49:47 ones. Oh, you did? Oh no, I didn't have a plus one. No one had plus ones. That's right. And so I didn't email back. She emailed in the deadline. I didn't because I just was not on my phone when I got the link. Yeah, but it's okay. You're number one of the year?
Starting point is 00:50:03 Yeah, I'm going to see it. What's yours, Flash? I'm going to, this is, this is hyperbole. No. Mission Impossible. Oh, that makes sense. It's there. Then Flash is right below because of Keaton.
Starting point is 00:50:17 You know, and I love that I'm hearing that it's his movie, Flash. It is Barry Allen's movie. It's not Michael Keaton with him. It's like, best analogy I got so far was it's Steve Rogers, Winter Soldier, in Winter Soldier, whereas Batman is Falcon and, um, Supergirl is Black Widow. They add to it. He's got a great arc and they give them enough time.
Starting point is 00:50:38 But yeah, it's Barry's movie. But it's Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning. Those films to me. Indy is a distant third. Now because of reviews. I went in trepidations. I didn't want another one after Christmas skull. I was like, nope, we don't need this anymore.
Starting point is 00:50:51 But the Mangol got added on. And I heard all the talk. And I heard the, you had heard about it at the screen. But then the reviews are coming out. And I'm just like, ooh, did they? Again, it's not the crowd that you want to be going for over the Cairns, you know, can journalists. That's not the crowd that this is their movie.
Starting point is 00:51:07 But still. But still. Yeah, something happened. And to hear that it's a half hour of the deaging thing, I'm kind of like, oh, I don't know about this. It depends on how you do it. I know, I know, man. It's still my number one, and I'm going to judge for myself. I know.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Mission Impossible's up there. Spider-Man is one that I wanted to see for sure. I really like the first one a lot, and I really like this one a lot. But it's like it wasn't my number one. We talked about this, the hyperbole. Yeah. So I'm going into Spider-verse. I love the first one.
Starting point is 00:51:35 But again, it wasn't on my radar of like, I got to see this. Then the reviews were coming out saying masterpiece, this and that. But we have so many people, especially in our circle, that John Wickford was a masterpiece of action. Guardians, a masterpiece that we haven't seen since Endgame. And now this greatest film of all time, when these people are constantly beating the drum of a film as a masterpiece, what are we supposed to believe? Right. Well, you're talking about the Flash? No, I'm talking about Spider-Verse.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Oh, Spider-verse. I'm hearing mixed on Flash. I'm hearing some people think it's the greatest comp movie of all time, and those are going, it's great, it's not the best. That's where I'm at. That's what I'm hearing, I'm hearing tempered. Spider-Verse. Well, wait, tempered. The Flash where I'm with the Flash, I like the Flash better than Spider-Verse, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Really? Yeah. I like Spider-Verse a lot. But I like the Flash a lot. I think it's a really good movie. But I think it goes back to your point. Before I saw it, it's the greatest movie, comic book movie ever. Which is the best, and not just from like, you know, James Goh.
Starting point is 00:52:31 and Tom Cruise, but from people inside of our circle, like there's particular people that I read and they're like, this is, I saw last night, greatest superhero movie. It's not. It's not better than the Dark Night. It's not. Yeah. But it's really good. It's a really good movie. But I think it takes away from the movie when you're calling it the greatest
Starting point is 00:52:49 because if you say it's a greatest ever, it needs to be the greatest ever. Oh, that's subjective. And if you're hitting this about every film, like, what am I supposed to believe of this? Like, again, I'll make my own decisions, but I don't want to go in, you know, with those expectations, it's like so... It's true.
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Starting point is 00:57:08 I put some questions out from the audience, and I want to bring them up. Here we go. First question. What do you go? Do you think that there's any way for them to make a live action Jedi Survivor movie? So a Jedi Survivor movie, no.
Starting point is 00:57:23 But I do think, as I said, I've got tips, and I don't know if it's going to come to fruition or not, but that they were in conversation with Monaghan to do a Calcestis show. I think Calcestis does show up in live action. Otherwise, I don't know why you would model the likeness after this case.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Such a good actor. Yeah. People love him. Yeah. They love him. So do you think, all right, so I guess two part question here, stuff. Part one.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Any chance they make a Jedi survivor adaptation, knowing that Lucasfilm doesn't do that, even though maybe they should. And then two, do you think we ever see Calcestus in life? live action. I don't think we'll see a Jedi Survivor live action. That doesn't mean I think it's impossible. I just don't think it's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:58:05 I do think he'll show up. He's just too liked, and his character makes sense, especially in the time period that they're playing with. And he said he's at a place now in his age that they can kind of age him up a little bit because I think that the actor is, I don't know, mid-30s?
Starting point is 00:58:21 Yeah, is he? I thought he was in his 20s. He's great. Yeah, what's his name? Cameron Monaghan. Cameron Monaghan, right? Cameron Monaghan, right? Cameron Monaghan.
Starting point is 00:58:31 He's the Joker. He was... Let's see. Let's see. Cameron... Oh, no, I'm wrong. I was completely wrong. He's only 30 years old.
Starting point is 00:58:39 He said he was in his 30s. I thought he was like mid-30s. Oh, no, 29 sounds right. Yes, he's 29. So, I mean, yeah, you could easily make him. So you could date Al Pacino. Yeah, oh, wow. Like, like a ginger.
Starting point is 00:58:49 No, no, he can move in once HAL's gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Take that's money. Yeah. Unbelievable. I love him so much. Come on, Mike. But yeah, I do think, I think he's got a shot to a... I don't think that a Jedi Survivor movie will happen,
Starting point is 00:59:04 but I do think that... They love them. Yeah, I think he'll show up, for sure. All right, let's see. Next question here. Here we go. This is from Dubrake, 69. How are they going to explain Asoka to viewers
Starting point is 00:59:17 that never watch Clone Wars and Rebels? Great question. I know that hardcore fans watch everything. Personally, I couldn't watch every episode of Clone Wars and Rebels. Just skip to the Mandalorian and Asoka Storylines after watching the Mandalorian and Book of BobaFet. I didn't know he had episodes in Clone Wars. It's a great question. I think it's a question that you have to ask.
Starting point is 00:59:35 I think it's one of the things that Faloni might be a little, I want to use, I hate to use the word arrogant too. But I think that he might go either one of two things. Yeah, they've watched it or they'll go back and watch it. and you can't do that, even though he'd give the standard answer to, no, no, you don't have to watch everything. But you're going to get so much more of an investment if you do, but you can't, but look, you said it just before
Starting point is 01:00:02 when I was like, okay, are you going to watch you? Like, how many episodes? Well, the thing is, I have a feeling this show, and I think I'm with the gentleman who wrote the question. I think this show is going to be the insider baseball of Star Wars. Yeah. I think it's like, I remember they've seen the trailer, I'm like, oh, they're going into lore here,
Starting point is 01:00:18 and this is going to be heavy. I'm like, am I going to be out of this? You got to make it for the layman, so to speak. Casual. Casual viewer. You got to make it for them because. What do you think so? I think that they should either make a crawl,
Starting point is 01:00:30 which we've all, I want them to do crawls on everything Star Wars, or do what they did for Obi-1, but even more extended of a cut that they release of all like the primary moments that you need to know. It might be tough. They're not going to do either of those. Yeah, the only reason that it works.
Starting point is 01:00:46 I'm just saying whatever. If you're a fan who edits, I would. make that edit. The Supercut, but I think that the reason why they did it and were able to do it in Obi-Wan was because it was all live-action stuff. It was live action, right. And the animated stuff might be jarring to some people.
Starting point is 01:01:00 But I think that, ultimately, what they have to do is they've got to tell, what the goal should be, is make this as intriguing without losing the casual viewer, right? To where you get the, to, enough an awareness to that viewer that goes, oh, there's more to this character
Starting point is 01:01:17 or these characters, or there's this story. I'm not lost because of it, but there's more to it. And now I'm interested to go back to see because there is, I could learn more if I wanted to. It doesn't take away from my viewing experience to watch it because Mike's right. If you, if you watch it and it's like, well, they're asking you to know what's happening there. Otherwise, you're going to be completely lost, then you're in trouble. Yeah, I think that there's a way to, to add a character to that can slyly add exposition in. Yeah. Like if you think of even how Lord of the Rings started, There's all of that.
Starting point is 01:01:50 We got the hobbits here, the prequels, right? That happened before it. And it didn't feel like we needed to know any of that because Gandalf and other characters added that information in for us. So we knew how the ring got there. Or I just have a narrator's voice come in and like describe some things, I guess. Yeah. I mean, or you just do it in a way where you write it.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Yeah. And it's like you have, okay, look, it's not, you're basically like, there is, this is the beauty of New Hope, right? there's a lot of history in New Hope that with Clone Wars, with all these different things that there was a history already that none of us saw when you saw it the first time, but it was there. And they could make the history present,
Starting point is 01:02:36 you know, and even stuff that it still exists without losing us or losing those who didn't know it, because you can still do that in a way where it's just like, if you start mentioning Canaan in a way, they're like, oh, remember that time when this happened? You're like, I don't remember that. I never saw that.
Starting point is 01:02:49 as opposed to just mentioning it in a way where it explains it. And you're like, oh, I as a casual viewer now understand who Canaan was. They can make this work. If you just like, if they show Jason, if they show Jason who is Harris' son, if they show him and you see him, you're not going to be lost that she has a son. You're just going to go, oh, she has a son. Yeah. We know how she got that son.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Right. Now, it just depends on how babies are made. No, no, he does. I get away from you. Okay, what if they did also like an episode, like House of the Dragon, their first episode was 100, or not 100 years. It was like 10 years before, right, or something like that? Something like that.
Starting point is 01:03:29 That could be cool. Like an epilogue. Yeah. It'll be interesting. So thank you for the question. Let's get to the next one. Al Stott, 555. Please have Steph pitch you on the animated R fantasy show,
Starting point is 01:03:43 The Legend of Vox. Mack and everybody saw it. Is that the one I? I saw it? No, no, no, no, that's not the one I saw. Yeah, right. That's the, this is the Matthew Mercer one, right? She did watch reactions on another channel, and I think that you might like it. Unless you've seen it already, I miss you talk about it. No, I haven't. That's, that's the Matthew Mercer one, isn't it? It's the... It's the... Amazon, right? Yeah, it's Amazon, right? Yeah, it's off of the... I'm forgetting the name, but it was a... It was like a Dungeon and Dragon group that did, like, a YouTube series. Yeah, it's Matt Mercer. Yeah, it's awesome. It's so good. It's so good. People love it. It really is. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it is. It's just like this.
Starting point is 01:04:21 The one that I started watching that I really liked was Invincible. Oh, I love Invincible. It's so funny. I worked at Skybound and I never watched a single episode. Did I stop working there after a year and I started watching? Really? It wasn't anything against them. I just was too freaking busy with Shmodown.
Starting point is 01:04:33 But there, it's just as good as Invincible. It's different. Invincible is, they're both extremely graphic in different ways. Vox Machina just has way more comedy. It's like our type of humor. Yeah. super raunchy and just like outrageous like someone's writing like a dick balloon you're like how the hell did that happen yeah it's Tuesday yeah it's like great yeah exactly all right well i'll have to
Starting point is 01:04:58 give it a shot one of these days we'll see yeah um all right next one this is from galaxy hangout what do you think will be the next trending show it seems we're hitting slumps in appointment television i mean it's a good good cally now i didn't watch succession i didn't hear good things i hear but I didn't watch Barry. I watched like, oh, I watched the first season of Barry and liked it.
Starting point is 01:05:20 People were raving about this one episode in season two. Like they were saying it was the best episode ever and I watched it and I said, I thought that was just, I didn't like it.
Starting point is 01:05:27 And I stopped watching it because of that one episode and I think, because what you just talked about before with the hype behind it is the greatest episode to television ever and I watched,
Starting point is 01:05:33 I think it was Roker or somebody talking how great the episode was and I was just stupid. Somebody's running around on a roof. It's like fantasy at this point. And I was out. And it probably got much better. But I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:43 As far as appointment television I think House of the Dragon is appointment television. I don't subscribe to that kind of thing. I'm very proud of you. I just don't. Because everyone loves, like, listening to Ted Lasso for years. Everyone was like, you gotta love Ted Lasso. And now people are tweeting out to Siddakas.
Starting point is 01:06:00 F you, this finale sucks. They're raging on this guy. They're saying that about a berry that the finale was awful. I love shit that no one watches. Citadel on Amazon. The Russo Brothers with Priya, Priy. Bianca Chopra. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Oh, that's the one with... Yeah, she's... And Richard Madden. Yeah. Love it. That's my show. No one's talking about it. They got a second season.
Starting point is 01:06:23 They're doing a show in Italy, too? Do they have lightsabers? Love it. No lightsabers. It's great. No one talks about it. It's my show. No one talks about it.
Starting point is 01:06:30 I love it. Send it out. Anyway, why did you turn your mic up for a minute? So, when it comes to appointment television, like I said, House of the Dragon is appointment television. Last of Us. Last of Us is Appointe Television. What would be the next big one?
Starting point is 01:06:42 I'll never forget with you and... You want to talk to Game of Thrones? I remember I came in, I tweeted out. Yeah. The season and not had finished yet. And I go, how long before people turn on this show like they'd turned down Walking Dead? And we went to Clyder. You said, that's a dragon.
Starting point is 01:06:55 No, this is back with Game of Thrones before season eight had finished. It was like halfway point. Yes. And I walked into Clyder and you go, you're out of your damn mind. They're going to finish the show. It's going to be awesome. I go, just watch. And sure enough, eight episodes later, people were burning that damn show down.
Starting point is 01:07:09 All, let me tell you something. Here's what I think that you do. Down! Here's what I think that you do. I think that you do. I think you do. program inside of your head. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:07:16 And I think that you make up scenarios that never happen. I think in your head you won the Inter-Gicton Championship five times. I think you defended it 127 times. I only defended it at three, more than anyone. Okay. But I think inside of that, I think you make things up. That's true. I think that you know.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Inside of that. It's true. No one defended it more than I did. Unbelievable. I think you make all this stuff. Yeah. I don't know what else is. Succession, there's, you know what, House of the Dragon made me realize something.
Starting point is 01:07:42 I know myself better because of that show. Oh, oh. I only like happy things. I think it's excellent. Oh. I don't like it. Oh. And I needed to come to grips with that.
Starting point is 01:07:55 It's excellent. Okay. Yeah. It's a well-made show, but not for you. Not for me. You just, you're zen. Right. It's my favorite.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Oh, and or is a point of viewing, I think, for us anyway. Oh, yeah. For us. Now it is. Now it is. So, I mean, I don't know. I mean, this, but yeah, I mean, will secret, will secret wars be or secret? Invasion?
Starting point is 01:08:13 No. No. No. Why there's so many secrets? So many secrets. Right. People are exhausted with Marvel right now. Started at end it,
Starting point is 01:08:20 and it was the last secret. We should have known. I know. Secret, secret. Oh my gosh. I hate to do this to you guys. But like Queen Charlotte, anything Bridgeting, Queen Charlotte to me and to the girlies
Starting point is 01:08:30 and to some of the men. Appointment viewing. Shonda Rhyme simply doesn't miss. He makes good points of others. What is the next one? And I think that there's a reason. I mean, it'll be something on HBO, I'm sure. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:08:42 We just don't know. Yeah, I'll be HBO like Euphoria. Last question. Last question. Justin Danford, 9003, this is a general streaming question. Didn't it make more sense before all the studios had their own streaming platforms? For instance, that there was just Netflix, Hulu, and HBO, and they paid studios for the content, and then went over the top to the audience. Wasn't that better for everyone?
Starting point is 01:09:03 More market share for the streaming service, no streaming costs in operating at a loss after a year for companies like Disney, and no growing service costs for the audience. So I'm going to be wrong. I love the content, but it doesn't seem like everyone, it just seemed like, everyone is losing more and more money. How long before they start consolidating is that the end gold? Build something you can justify a large sum asking price for eventually gobbled up by the inevitable larger fish. That is the smartest person who has ever written to this show.
Starting point is 01:09:27 He's right. He's 100% right. I think to answer his question, the studios are realizing that right now. Yes, they are. Streaming was not the gold mine. They may, by getting rid of all physical media, they realized that that was a gold mine that they just gave off. Thing is streaming. Well, they looked at Netflix and they said, well, we can do that.
Starting point is 01:09:45 We have enough material to do that, but they forget that when used. They don't have the material. Some might, but the problem is you start to, the market just starts to get, there's so many things. There's so much. And it's like Netflix has a thousand things on their platform. But a big thing is. HBO has that a million things. Disney has a million things.
Starting point is 01:10:01 You have to pick. And the thing is now with streaming, also you've got two seasons and six episodes. That's not a library of content. That's someone pays $14 a month watches it. And then it's like, I'm not paying for a couple more months. Can't cancel it, right. You've got to have the friends, the office, the Seinfelds. You've got to have those hundreds of episodes that people, they will watch for months.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Right. And subscribe to get that content. Well, that's why I have that anymore. And even look at something like Disney, right? Disney who's still trying to figure out ways to make their streaming platform work. Right. And they have hundreds of movies that we grew up with as kids. A bunch of different TV shows, Marvel movies, Star Wars movies, and they're still trying to figure out how the hell to make it work.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Because this guy's right. It's like, you know, you used to back in the window with HBO, it's like every Tuesday, Tuesday night or Saturday night, whatever the hell it was. Brand new movie that was out a couple months in the theater. Now you can watch it on HBO. It's like there's so many different platforms that you have to pick, choose, spend 13 bucks a month on all of them too. So it's, the business has kind of collapsed on itself a bit. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 01:10:59 Yeah, but it wasn't for social media. They would all be screwed. Yes. The only reason why there's appointment viewing still is because of Twitter, really specifically, which is going down. Anyway. From your lips to God dear. Anyway, look, there's a lot of different things that we could talk about here, but I wanted to thank you guys.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Please, any of the comments, any of the topics that we talked about, please leave your comments and let me know exactly what you wanted to talk about, whether it would be the Flash movie, whether it's Spider-Man, whether it's the stuff about Rex returning, Obi-1 season two. Please let your voice be heard. It's one of the most important things on this channel. And thank you for all those people who submitted questions. Also appreciate you.
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