The Kristian Harloff Show - IS PETER SAFRAN LEAVING DC?! New report hints it could be happening. SUPERMAN is crucial!!

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

We know how important the new Superman movie is for DC. There is a report that is confirming just that and also suggests that Peter Safran might be set to leave WB and DC. What does this mean for the ...overall future of DC? The numbers for Captain America Brave New World final box offie are in and the news is not great for Marvel. It is officially the lowest money maker at the box office for Marvel to date. Can the once teflon studio come back with their next few releases or is this the fall of Rome? House of the Dragon new, Last Of Us news and Snow White might cancel it's premiere in the UK? This and more with Kristian Roxy and Mike on today's show! #mcu #marvel #boxoffice #captainamerica #disney #snowwhite #houseofthedragon  OUR SPONSORS: TRADE COFFEE: Trade is exclusively offering our listeners 40% off your first order at https://www.drinktrade.com/KRISTIAN FACTOR: Eat smart with Factor. Get started at https://www.FACTORMEALS.com/factorpod... and use code FACTORPODCAST to get 50% off your first box plus free shipping. That's code FACTORPODCAST at https://www.FACTORMEALS.com/factorpod... to get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box. ROBINHOOD: Investing involves risk. Rate subject to change. 3% match requires Robinhood Gold at $5/mo for 1 yr from first match, must keep funds in IRA for 5 years. Go to https://www.robinhood.com/boost   

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Starting point is 00:01:15 Captain America, Brave New World. Looks like it's going to be the lowest performing MCU movie of all time. And what does that mean? Can Marvel bounce back from it? And we got TV picks. That and more on the show. show here today with myself, Roxy, Mike. I'd like to give Mike crap and to
Starting point is 00:01:35 say that he's jumping on today's show because he knows you can try to get a win with Roxy, but I can't because he was almost getting me out of a bind, but then clutch Roxy as Roxy always is. It says, hey, I can do the show after
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Starting point is 00:03:05 I'm that guy. What's going on? No, no. Just hot mess express. things that I cannot relay right now. But holy moly. Dating stuff? No.
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Starting point is 00:03:40 What's wrong? The camera, like, moved out of places and it's weird. I guess when I go here, it does weird things. Anyway, how are you guys? Just so you know, things aren't just like happening to you today. Yes, they are. You ordered the delivery. He doesn't need, where are he going? Now where is he going? He's like, well, the camera move, like, you. Look at him. He's like, oh, my camera's moving. I don't know why it's moving.
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Starting point is 00:05:52 Why are you bleeding? That I don't know. The other answers I can give you, but this one I can't. You're like that one guy, that one friend that every time he shows up, there's some kind of cut or open sword. You're like, what's going on with this? I don't know. Always.
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Starting point is 00:06:18 It was amazing. What happened? Well, he jinxed it on himself. Yeah, I did. I did. He's like, look, my internet's working great. And then it just, it was almost the worst than the last time with us. Don't do that.
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Starting point is 00:09:19 we had some stories. We got lots of stories. So let's get to the stories. We have stories to tell. And Warner Brothers pictures, the future may hinge on Superman's success. Is Peter Safran set to leave DC studios right away? So much in there that the kind of first part is what we, I think everybody's been talking about is, of course,
Starting point is 00:09:41 they know this, this is, this is a big one, this movie. So if it doesn't do well, then maybe D.C.'s in trouble. Believe it or not, Superman may be even more important than anybody realized as its future of the Wonder Brothers discovery of the whole could be at stake. One solution is to move Peter Saffron from DC Studios. Josh Wilder, Mike DeLuca, Pam Abdi's stint as Warner Brothers Pictures, co-chiefs has been a disaster.
Starting point is 00:10:09 outside of the odd hits like Barbie, the studio continues to release movies that regularly underperform. Mickey 17 being the latest example. Joker, Follyadu, was another colossal mistake. With Warner Brothers Discovery, CEO David Zazov looking to cut costs and make moves to the cheap,
Starting point is 00:10:28 Luca and Abdi allowed Todd Phillips to essentially rip them off for Josh Wallad and coming in hot today to 200 million so he could shoot a lavish sequel meant to satisfy his and Joaquin Phoenix's desire for a musical. According to a new report from Puck, Zazlov, an unpopular figure in Hollywood
Starting point is 00:10:47 after he scrapped movies like Batgirl and Coyote v. Acme mid-production is considering replacing Luca and Abdi. One top contender is DC Studios co-CEO Peter Saffron, meaning that James Gunn would be left as the sole head of that studio. Beyond that, it appears the pressure is on Superman to be a hit, as it's now described as having an almost, most incalculable importance to Warner Brothers' discovery. The report explains that there's a genuine fear Warner Brothers could go the way of 20th century Fox,
Starting point is 00:11:19 a studio scooped up by Disney and it was no longer sustainable for it to exist on its own. According to one studio veteran, an essential element of the stock prices believe that the IP of DC is meaningful. Zazov bet big that they can show the world that the DC IP can have real value. Superman is the first movie. That will set the tone. They have a tremendous amount riding on it. Up until this point, we've all very much believed that if Superman Flops, DC Studios is in trouble.
Starting point is 00:11:45 In reality, if guns reboot under reforms, the studio as a whole to be in jeopardy. Warner Brothers is relying on the DCU slate being a huge draw that generates some guaranteed box office hits. That's likely to be easier said than done when the brand is tarnished and moviegoers are showing hard to ignore signs of superhero fatigue. Superman, DC Studio's first feature to hit the big screen is set to soar into theaters, worldwide this summer from Warner Brothers pictures. In his signature style, James Gunn takes on the original superhero. Yada, yada, yada, yada. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:15 This is a pretty layered article here. And I don't know, Rox, what do you think? Would you, do you think that that is accurate? A, do you think there's truth in the fact that, you know, Peter Saffron, A, is being considered to run all of Warner Brothers, you know, in the place of those two? and B. is Wonder Brothers in dire needs for this thing to hit
Starting point is 00:12:42 or it's going to get sold off? What do you make of all of that? When you say this thing, you're talking about Superman. Yeah, Superman fails. Is that going to be, you know, the end of Warner Brothers, as we know it, is it going to get sold off? It is interesting that we continue to talk about, like, if Superman fails, is D.C. in trouble.
Starting point is 00:13:04 And it is much bigger than that, obviously. Sometimes I do feel like the people who write these articles are in a bad mood when they wake up, though. Because that was, it was like very harsh. Can I? Yeah, go ahead, man. Let me just say something. I wasn't going to say anything because I know we read articles a lot. If you read comic movie, Josh Wilding, if it's bad about D.C., he's writing it.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Mark Cassidy is the guy that writes positive about D.C. His articles are consistently negative, even in the way he words things. like I used to be a big fan of his and I know we cover him, but there's a lot of other writers on that site that I prefer because he's very biased in his writing. And I didn't say anything and you read it, said that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:46 No, this is, this is tough. Just go into that reading those from now on and you'll see exactly, nothing he said is wrong. Here we go. That's a very pointed argument right there. Yeah. Nothing he said is wrong,
Starting point is 00:14:00 but it's all done in the way it's framed and toned. And that's journalism as a whole. Right. So, yeah. I mean, and now I'm sorry, Roxy. No, I agree. So I feel like when we're using terms like, is it dire and all of this stuff, we're starting a new. D.C. is one of the biggest parts of Warner Brothers.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Yep. We're starting a new DCU. I think that people felt very confident with James Gunn and Saffron at the helm of that. And I have a feeling this is going to really. work out in their favor. So if it doesn't, are we in a completely different situation and need to reassess certain things? Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Do I think that they're going to pull saffron before we even get the ball rolling? Probably not. Well, that's just my gut. They could. The only thing with that, I mean, I think that you can make the argument that maybe if they really feel like they have a lot of confidence in it, that they start moving the places and the piece to get him in there now because these two, the other two have just dropped the ball significantly, right?
Starting point is 00:15:09 Right, but they don't know how it's going to perform yet. So I would think that they would be like, let's just pace it out a little bit, but maybe not. Well, but the only thing is that let's say that it's not him per se, but there's still, he just, he wants them gone, right? Because you can make the argument that very similar we talked about Kathleen Kennedy, except he's moving a lot faster than keeping someone on for like 10 years. but if you look at what they have done, the one thing I will say about Josh Walding's thing,
Starting point is 00:15:36 I think that he's accurate. They have dropped the ball tremendously, especially with Joker, too. Like, they bent the need to Todd Phillips there. Yeah, but okay, but if you just made a billion dollar film out of the Joker that no one thought I was going to do this, no one's going to go to that.
Starting point is 00:15:55 No studio at any studio in this town would have gone, like, let's scale back, no. It wasn't scalps. He would do that. It was the way he handled it. And from the reports on how he handled it and the request that he was making, he. Sure.
Starting point is 00:16:08 But like you had a billion and a half dollar hit that no one thought would come anywhere close to that. Like Hollywood is a betting game. Hollywood is a betting game. And they bet and they lost on it. You know. Right. You talk about dire straits.
Starting point is 00:16:22 You got to pay the debts that you lose. Sure. Sure you do. But also you got to look at the bigger thing. Like which executive or who was it that said, No, Nolan, we're not going to bow down to you. And they lost Nolan. That executive, whoever that was, should not be with the company.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Right. Because look what Oppenheimer did. Because Warner Brothers could be sitting on a Barbie Oppenheimer double hit in great condition. So we're looking at this and that. And we talk about dire straits with, we know, D.C. The same exact thing was said, and Fagie had said it himself, hey, our Ironman, this doesn't work. It ain't all.
Starting point is 00:16:56 It didn't work it at all. It's a gamble. And that's what you got to do. You got to put your best people in place And you got to have faith in that That's what Marvel DC is where Marvel was in 2007 right now Yeah they All the the Warner Brothers movie releases
Starting point is 00:17:12 Because he did name like two or three stinkers Or box office stinkers But over the last I don't know what time period Do you guys think is relevant to this conversation Last four Okay so starting in 2020 And I don't have numbers for you
Starting point is 00:17:29 guys but 2022 the batman came out that was a success um fantastic beats the secrets of dumbledore did that do did that hit for them no that ate ship okay elvis um yeah critically don't worry darling black adam um a christmas story bones and all mummies magic mike's last dance creed three shazam fury of the gods No. Evil Dead Rise. Air. No. Air would not financially, but it wasn't Air Apple? Was it in conjunction? I thought it was Amazon.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I thought it was Amazon. It was Amazon. I thought it was Amazon too, but it's listing this as a... Maybe they did distribution for it. Yeah, possibly or maybe overseas or something. Sometimes that's a little different. Barbie, which was a huge hit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Meg 2, Bottoms. A lot of these, like, critically slapped, none too, saltburn, Wonka, Aquaman. Wonged it very well, and Aquaman didn't tank. Color purple, Boys in the Boat,
Starting point is 00:18:40 Dune Part 2, Godzilla, X. Kong, challengers, Friosa. Yeah, well, Furiosa bomb, Kong and Godzilla didn't. So they've had, they've had some hits, but there's been... Spellers.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Yeah, there's been some... People juice, fetal juice. my old ass. I didn't know that was them either. Yeah. So just saying like there's some... Yeah, it looks like they did. It's some success. Right. Even like companion right now, I feel like, I don't know about financially. I'm assuming it was a financially was in their favor because horror movies tend to do very well and that one's been talked about a lot. But I just am saying there's, it's not been like, holy crap, we've had four years.
Starting point is 00:19:22 stinker stinker stinker there's some success i think because i think of what with the embarrassment with joker too is a lot right you look at the amount of money that made on what you would assume is a sure thing when you like as mike pointed out earlier you get this billion dollar movie that came out of nowhere that didn't cost that much and then you double the budget to that and you lose a lot of money because when you lose a lot of money it really stings especially because warner brothers isn't just isn't that profitable right now and then you look at this is what we talked about with Mickey and I think you and I spoke about this rocks last time Mickey 17 should not cost that amount of money I don't care who's directed it parasite costs like
Starting point is 00:20:01 $20 million or whatever it did no it was Mike and I I think we're talking about but it's like you have that kind of money on Mickey 17 10 or 120 something yeah but it's a sci-fi fantasy film it it's not three it's not four people living in a house somewhere like parasite I know but it's not but that's the problem is because if I'm asking in that question, that's the studio executive, I would ask the question, who are we marketing this to?
Starting point is 00:20:28 And who do, because this is not a, this is not a wide audience movie. This is not a movie that's going to make that kind of money. We have, and this is something that a lot of actors in Hollywood are talking about right now
Starting point is 00:20:38 is the fact that we are at a place where filmmakers are not running these studios. Corporations are. Numbers people, people that run Amazon well. Then go, if I sell X amount of product, X amount of price,
Starting point is 00:20:50 I'm going to get this return. They're not, looking at a creative thing, they have no idea. That's the entire problem with Hollywood now. Whereas I think, and I hope it stays that way, DC Studios is run by creatives. Marvel Studios is run by creatives.
Starting point is 00:21:05 They have to answer to corporations, but that's the problem. Like, this Zazlov is a corporate guy. He knows no fucking clue. Right, but he's not the one running creative. He's trying to, to his credit,
Starting point is 00:21:16 I don't like to give him that much credit, but to his credit, he is trying to put together creatives in there that can also make good business decisions. I think it's a mistake to let James Gunn run this on his own. I think James Gunn will tell you that. It's a mistake to let him run the business side of things. Do you guys like the head of any studio?
Starting point is 00:21:35 I don't mind what. I think sometimes Iger makes some pretty good decisions when it comes to creative things. I think it was a smart move of what he did clearly. If you're talking about a business side of things. Is there a head of a studio that you're like? this should be the model of how other studios model it after.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Yeah. I don't know if he's the head, but. I don't know if he's the head, but Jason Blum, Blumhouse. Yeah. That guy. Yeah. For his,
Starting point is 00:22:04 for his studio, for what he does his production company. Look at, look at Wolfman. You hire Lee Wynnell, who came off of upgrade and Invisible Man, two huge hits.
Starting point is 00:22:13 He kind of gave him carte blanche. It didn't work. Are they sitting there going, fuck? We're fucked. What are we going to do? I don't know, but there's a big difference there, too.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Sure it is, because they're smart. It's a big difference, but they're smart. Well, yes, yes, but also they have put themselves in a position that if they miss with a movie that costs $20, 30 million dollars, they've already had tons of movies on budgets of $5 million that have made four times that. And they, like you said, smart, the way that they put things together. Don't worry about it. Yeah, you're right. I mean, but no, why are not, why are studios not doing that?
Starting point is 00:22:48 Why are they not making the small movies for small budgets? Because they can keep filling the coppers. Because Blumhouse doesn't need to make a billion dollars because they don't have all the costs that a Warner Brothers does, right? They don't have the manpower that Warner Brothers does. And have all these different places and other interests that Warner Brothers has. So like they, Warner Bros. has to make the money back. But if you look at in the way that you stock market, you start going, okay, you know what? I should sell out now and you don't.
Starting point is 00:23:16 You stick around. You're like, oh, let me just stick around for a little bit. And then the thing crashes and you lose all your, lose all your money. that's what they did with Joker. That's what they did with Joker too. It was a stupid, it was like they were trying to cash in on his chips. They let him go do what he wanted to do.
Starting point is 00:23:28 They gave him carte blanche on it in the way that Blumhouse did. And it didn't, it didn't work. So Superman is their next gamble. And if it works very much so, what you were talking about, it is their Iron Man right now. They're in that position.
Starting point is 00:23:40 So Roxy, let's put a, let's put a position here where, or scenario rather, where Superman does not deliver. And it breaks even, makes a little, little bit of money. Is there a world that Disney buys Warner Brothers? I have to go back a step
Starting point is 00:23:59 because this might sound crazy to you guys, but I don't think that there's a world in which Superman doesn't perform. No, it doesn't sound crazy to me at all. I don't think there's a world. So it's hard for me to get to that second part of the question because I genuinely put it at a less than 1% chance that Superman doesn't perform. But remember though, now when you, so you think so And I think you've already answered this in previous shows, but you believe it'll make close to a billion dollars. They do. Okay. So if you believe that.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Even if it doesn't, even if it makes 800 or whatever, I don't know what the budget of it is, but even if it makes a decent amount back, that's what I mean by perform. I don't mean it has to hit a billion in order to be a success. No, no, no, I know you're saying. It's going to profit is what you're essentially. Yeah, I think definitely. I don't think you're crazy. I think that for, I, well, not that, I don't think you're crazy at all because I, I, I, I,
Starting point is 00:24:50 I agree with you. I think that it's going to perform. But there is that scenario, like, okay, if it doesn't, and if for some reason test screenings set it back, because look, everybody, we all would have said last year, Joker 2 is going to crush all of us said it was going to crush. Because why wouldn't it? The last one. And then once you started hearing about the screenings and everything else too.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I wouldn't have said it as confidently. Okay. Because before the first Joker, I wouldn't have said Joker's going to crush. No. It did. So then you're basing it off a previous success, Superman starting the success. So I think it's a little bit different. But I honestly like, okay, let me ask you guys this.
Starting point is 00:25:29 If the early reviews come in and it's that Superman sucks, the movie is not good. Do you think it will perform? It'll perform, but it'll hurt it. You think it'll still profit. If Superman sucks, do you think it will profit? If in the way that the Joker too sucked and the audience agrees with the critics, Um, yeah. Yeah, then it'll bomb.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Then it'll, then it'll, then it'll, then it'll, then it'll, no, not if the audience doesn't like it up top.
Starting point is 00:25:56 If the audience, if the audience, if the audience starts it because any, any of these movies that need to hit 700, 800 is repeat business. The movie stinks.
Starting point is 00:26:04 People aren't going to want to go see it. And then, like, yeah, I heard it wasn't that good. And then it, and then you'll have shows like ours and other shows. I mean,
Starting point is 00:26:10 it just wasn't, it didn't deliver. They're in trouble. And then the stories will be it. Like, one of our lead stories, movies not good is what will it's look at
Starting point is 00:26:18 look at Captain America by the man don't worry about it second weekend of Captain America was disastrous the Brave New World because it was for open world but this is a Superman movie it's starting the DCU right and if you don't watch this
Starting point is 00:26:35 you're going to be behind so even if it's bad I think it has more of a leg up than Joker 2 or Captain America I agree it has a leg up absolutely as a leg up for sure I agree with that. Mike, what do you think? If you can hear me.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Perfect time. Yeah, I hear you guys. Great. Yeah. I'm thinking. I'm thinking. I'm deep in thought. So this is my mind right now thinking.
Starting point is 00:26:56 You guys are in the mind of Mike Klanowski right now. I don't know what to think about this, guys. Honestly, because I'm trying to look at this broad thing. Fantastic. Like Captain America, the word of mouth when it was coming before the opening weekend was, it's good. Mid-Marvel. Not too bad. You can't see the reshoots.
Starting point is 00:27:17 The movie comes out. Everyone's like, oh, you see the reshoots everywhere. Right. So the initial reaction, and I always say this, I hate and I apologize because you guys go to these and you are part of those initial social reactions. I think they're awful. I think they come out. I think people and not you guys, they want to get their sound bite. Like, oh, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:27:36 And then two days later, the reviews out. And it's just like, but those things get out there. So I went into Cat 4 with Feeling Good. I was like, okay, it's feeling good, let's do this. And I saw it, I'm like, what did I just watch? Right. I had help for Thunderbolts. I really thought Thunderbolts is going to be a, it's different from this, it's separate.
Starting point is 00:27:56 It wasn't part of reshoots. And now recently, now they're suddenly changing the marketing. They're like, it's the film that A-24 wants to make as a superhero film. Yeah, so that changed. Luke sent me the trailer this morning. Have you seen this, Roxy? They have like a full trailer for this thing that they're promoting it like an independent film. It's like the studio that worked on hereditary, the studio that were or or that's
Starting point is 00:28:18 not the studio, but someone who worked on hereditary, someone who worked on this independent film, somebody who worked on this smaller film. Like they're really pushing it like a smaller film. And it's not like they did this from the beginning. This is brand new. Right. No, I haven't seen this. It's the marketing idea is like people are getting tired of the look at this over the top Marvel thing. We want a little bit more depth to it. And that's what they're trying to push with this. I, I don't know, but either way, we'll get to the Captain America story in a little bit, but I think that this Warner Bros. story is very interesting because Peter Safran, if he is being eyed to run this whole thing,
Starting point is 00:28:58 to Roxy's earlier point, do they do this before the movie comes out, you know, and then give him this big promotion where that would benefit Gunn also, very much so. If the movie, if they, so look at that, look at that way, Roxy, right? Like if they decide, okay, we're going to get rid of these two knuckleheads and we're going to put in Saffron to run the whole show. And then Superman does come out as he's in the chair and they, and it crushes. Dunn's going to have a very powerful ally in that place also. You know, he's going to have an ally there. Not to say the other two weren't, but he's going to have way more of an ally if Saffron's run in the joint.
Starting point is 00:29:36 And they've got, they have Saffron. They have gun there in that position. But I think Dun would need somebody. in the business side to come in and run it though but i don't know yeah i don't disagree with you i just think that they probably will wait until they see how superman does before they take saffron and essentially give him him a promotion um i think that would be the smart thing to do and i do want to answer your initial question question which i dodged not on purpose but just i couldn't get there at the time no i don't think that disney is going to buy um is going to buy dc i think i think that
Starting point is 00:30:11 I think it would be very cool for one second to have crossovers between some of the characters that we love. And then I think it would be the worst thing that ever happened for comic book movies. Right. So that doesn't mean that they wouldn't do it because of that. But I don't think that they will. And I think that Warner Brothers letting go of D.C. would be a giant mistake. Mike, would you go into an absolute panic if that happened? I'd go into a panic.
Starting point is 00:30:41 not a panic. I go into more of it as a f-ed-up frustration that we are losing studios. You know, at the end of the day, I don't care about comic movies in the way that the film Twitter talks about them. I care about them as watching my, the area I live in watching movie studios close and this industry that it's, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:05 it's our art form becoming a conglomerate and they're just buying and buying and consolidating. I've said this from the beginning. I think actually I take it back now because for a very long time I said Disney buying Marvel Studios was awful I don't think Marvel should have sold
Starting point is 00:31:20 I think they I don't think I don't think they needed Disney but I would have said back in the day that Disney buying Star Wars was the smartest thing now looking back I think I was just talking to a buddy of mine how Disney buying Star Wars was awful and I think the fact that the movies have underperformed
Starting point is 00:31:39 Disney awful for Star Wars Fans. Offer for Star Wars and Star Wars fans. Disney has, yes, they've made billions of dollars. They've split the fan base even more. They've now underperformed consistently. The theme parks, they have dropped the ball like you don't believe. Galaxy's Edge is a bomb. Star Cruiser was ridiculously a billion dollar bomb. That's now an office building. They don't know how to handle Star Wars. And Marvel didn't need him. I think Fagie and his way that he grew up in film as a producer and behind the scenes as existence and this and that i think he would have been fine on his own sure they wouldn't have been in the theme parks yeah but they had they had the money to bank to to bank it though they had a man but their movies were making bank as it was and man
Starting point is 00:32:28 yeah but what movies were like you had iron me and yours was theirs adventures was there wasn't theirs dude it was paramount but still but yeah but you got out of the But Disney didn't make Avengers. Disney didn't make Avengers break out. Disney, that Avengers movie that, you know, it was incredible.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Somebody had to fund it. You just, you just didn't like the fact that somebody had to fund Marvel. He couldn't have done that on their own. They needed, they needed a studio. But they could have gotten there eventually and created their own studio. I mean,
Starting point is 00:32:56 who knows? It's hindsight, but with, you know, and here's the thing. I want to get back to a topic. We talk about what does Superman need to make? I don't know the numbers in front of me,
Starting point is 00:33:04 but Iron Man, the first film, and I don't know if you guys remember this, I sat, I think there was about 20 people in my theater on a Thursday night to see Iron Man. It wasn't like, oh my God, Iron Man's here, let's sell out opening night. It wasn't. It word of mouth built and built over the summer and it became a blockbuster. But I think I want to say maybe $700 or $600 million it made.
Starting point is 00:33:27 And I hope that whoever's running DC and again, the pundits and all of us will be responsible for it. If it doesn't break a billion, we don't scream, oh, financial troubles. this movie breaks, makes more than it's spent and gets a little bit in the black. That's a sign that keep going. All right, we're there. We're taking baby steps. And we need it. Yes, Superman is one of the most popular icons of all time.
Starting point is 00:33:51 And Iron Man was not. I know they're different. But we are at ground zero. Good. Iron. Iron Man box office grossed 585 worldwide 318 domestic. That's, okay. Sorry, Rox, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:34:11 No, no, you're good. Back to you. Not even making 600 million. And then, when that happened, was people like, oh, Marvel Studios, it's over. Fuck it. It's done. Put it.
Starting point is 00:34:22 There's its corpse. So we need to go into this and we need to adjust. And everyone in our little zeitgeist of our little film Twitter world needs to not be writing these dismal articles if it doesn't make a billion dollars in two weekends. I think there's going to happen. You know what's going to happen, dude.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Yeah. Well, yeah. It'll happen. I think that the opening weekend will be interesting to see, considering that there's not, they have about two weeks that they can play with before the other movies start coming in to chip away at it. So if it's great, then, you know, then they're going to be in good shape. But I don't know if this is accurate, but the reported estimated budget for Superman is 360 million. Oh, gunshot that down. Okay. What did he say? So he didn't he didn't give a number on it But he said that was that's that's that's Absolutely 100% not accurate
Starting point is 00:35:14 Do you guys agree or disagree with the statement that no movie should cost more than 250 million dollars? No movie no Because if I was if I'm on the if I'm on the board and they go hey Endgame needs to cost 300 million dollars I'm in infinity word as people I'm after seeing lead the lead up to it. I'm probably going to sign that check. Avatar, probably going to sign that check.
Starting point is 00:35:44 The statement was no, yeah, I guess, I don't understand. I don't think it should. Why would it need to cost more than $250 million? Well, in the case of Avatar,
Starting point is 00:35:55 in the case of Avatar, they were shooting portions of the other movies coming up, you know? Yeah, that's different the way that it breaks down. But I don't know. Maybe I just have no grip on this, but yeah, Mikey.
Starting point is 00:36:07 I have an insight for you. So one, I think we all laugh and I think it is ridiculous that we have this doge thing in federal government. And I think we should have some kind of doge in Hollywood. Because I'm going to tell you a little story. Girl I dated many, many years ago was a stunt woman. And she was working on the movie Cold Mountain with, I think it's Jude Law. Yeah, Malibur, Fortman. Stunt woman.
Starting point is 00:36:34 And she was, you know, you wouldn't think a movie like that was big stunt. And she was doing a scene where she was like in a rowboat falling in a water. And she had a dress of the Indy just don't want to do this. So they flew her for first class, put her up in a first class hotel per die and paid her for like the weeks. Like it was two weeks and they paid her every single day and not just the day she worked. When we talk about budgets, that's where it comes from. I mean, there's so many more things above the line and below the line. but stars are put up,
Starting point is 00:37:06 actors are put up in five-star hotels and they get first-class flights. And again, I'm saying this is an actor that takes, enjoys these things. But that's where your budgets can come down. Of course. I would rather work,
Starting point is 00:37:18 I would rather get a regular economy class flight and a regular hotel get a smaller per DM if I could work more. If I could get more jobs. I do kind of disagree with you on one thing here, though, Mikey. Like,
Starting point is 00:37:32 if you're putting, if somebody is there for two weeks to only pay them for the days they're working is brutal. We all know that. When you get put somewhere for, if you're going somewhere for a week, two weeks, and you're only working three of those days, they're not consecutive. That means you can't take other jobs. And then if you're not getting paid for the whole time, it's ridiculous. So I think that where the budgets can come down are that some people are making $40 million to be in the movie. That's like, how are we going to say it's the stunt woman who's getting put up for two weeks versus it's the star that's making.
Starting point is 00:38:06 And that's where the agent's coming to play too, right? And I think that's where also people go, well, the actor sells the movie. We put Tom Cruise on this. Does he anymore? Not Tom Cruise. I know you're saying. I know you're.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Oh, I know. It depends. I mean, I make that argument all the time, Roxy, what you're saying. But it depends because if I'm Robert Tennon Jr's agent and I'm negotiating for, you know, his contract is finished, trier man three.
Starting point is 00:38:31 And then they want him for the event. Avengers movies. And I'm going, okay, well, he's the most important character. So he's clearly should be making this because you know you guys are going to make at least one, one point five billion on this movie. So why is he only, you're still going to pay him that what he got on the first movie? If you don't have him in this movie, you don't have the same movie. You can make the argument of why he is valuable to get that kind of money. Costs of living and things are going up also. I do understand. I just feel like when we watch these movies, like everything everywhere all at once or even the first joker like you can see what they can do for a
Starting point is 00:39:09 sub a hundred million dollar movie so the fact that we now consistently have over 250 million movies like red one where it's just like oh my god that's ridiculous that that movie should not cost that kind of money anyway so we spent a lot of time there um and there's a lot more that's coming out with this topic so put your thoughts in there let me know what's you think about this whole thing is saffron going to move over should he move over is superman going to you know keep this thing going could is it going to sink it if it doesn't do well what say you put your thoughts in there let me know um we got a bunch of things to discuss still and before we do it i got to tell you guys about a few of our sponsors and trade love trade uh trade coffee is one of
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Starting point is 00:44:04 trade coffee. I'm so excited to have trade coffee right now, man. I was like, it's just a game changer. It's a game changer. What's wrong, Rox? Are you laughing at? You're eating now, too? Yeah. I just was, oh, for fuck, say! What? What's wrong?
Starting point is 00:44:21 This fucking internet, buddy. My fucking internet. What'd you stop screaming and cursing? You know, we have... No, I can't. You can't do it. The show. Pay $100 a month for internet, and this is the BS I get.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Anyway, I was laughing because when we came back, I expected you to have some kind of bruiser cut on your face just randomly. Oh, yeah? No. No, I had to run into the restroom. And Roxy's- I should have done that, too. You did that?
Starting point is 00:44:44 Roxy has no audio. I've been muted. You guys haven't heard anything I said? No. Hey, I don't, at least I, at least I do this. When I eat when someone's like this. I don't eat on camera. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Come on now. Just wait. All right. What is that? What is that, Roxy? Well, what is that is what Marvel's been saying right now? Because Captain America Brave New World, it's going to end its global box office run. It is the lowest grossing MCU movie all time.
Starting point is 00:45:17 That is a little bit shocking to me. I've got to say, we have an update on Captain America, Brave New World's predicted final box office hall. And unfortunately, for Marvel Studios, latest movie, it'll rank among the studio's lowest grossing releases. This weekend, Bong Joon Ho's Mickey 17 opened to 53 million worldwide, a so-so result for the science fiction comedy starring Robert Pattinson. It's not been the best of starts for theaters this year, as Captain America, Brave New World has similar underperformed over the past few weeks.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Having grossed 9.2 million during its third weekend overseas, the MCU movie's momentum is slowing down. It has reached 200 million at the international box. office with 194 million in total thus far. Combined with its 176.6 million in North America, Captain America Brave New World has reached 370 million worldwide. And now analysts predict a final worldwide roast between 405 and 440, regardless of where it lands.
Starting point is 00:46:21 The Falcon and the Winter Soldier follow-up will ultimately rank among Marvel Studios' lowest earning titles. Marvel's is the studio's biggest flop, having made only 206 million in total. Captain America, Brave New World looks to set to end up somewhere between Eternals. So it wasn't the biggest flop. Yeah, that makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:46:40 And again, Josh Wilding with his wonderful headlines. But he's not, this isn't D.C. You said D.C. No, but I'm just saying the way he words things. And then look at the original title. No, because look at the original title. look at the go back and scroll up to the top of that article got you there you said he's anti-d-ccc is anti-comic book or here we go here we go let's stop right there we have an update of
Starting point is 00:47:05 america brave new world we said a month look hold on i'm not i'm looking below this i'm going below this to show you my point we have an update on captain america brave new world's predictive final box office for hall and up unfortunately marvel studio's latest movie will rank among the point would have it say dc shocks No, but he said among. He didn't say the lowest. He said among. All right.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Fair enough. Fair enough. But I'm going off this unfortunately bullshit. It's in your mind for no reason. Listen, I, I'm with you, though. Like, it does make it sound like it is a bigger failure than it is. Yeah. He just seems to be kind of a negative dude.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I don't know this guy. He's all right. Normally. But today, I get, two articles, yeah. I get hated on for being positive. So if I can get, if I can get crapped on for being positive, I guess. I can call somebody negative. But I am surprised by this as well, Christian, and pretty bummed by this.
Starting point is 00:48:02 It's just not good for them. It's not good for them in like the future right now. As somebody who wholeheartedly is in Camp D.C. always has been, as Christian put Mikey and I on DC movie news and it's just like my world. I'm not as invested in Marvel, even though, of course, I watch everything and I do love the Marvel movies. but you just you want you know that like if marvel does better than DC does better than Marvel does better you know these these are cousins not enemies so it just feels like this is kind of a little bit of a downfall for them financially and critically um it didn't perform that
Starting point is 00:48:38 well either so it is just a bummer I thought it was going to do a lot better Mike what do you make of this um I'm kind of like with rocks again anyone knows me I'm a DC guy so to me right now this feels like what it feels like to be a DC fan. You want to love the movie and everyone shits on it and everyone, the press go after it and say it's a bomb and it's not going to come back. And this is what it's like being a DC fan about 10 years ago. So it's nothing new for me.
Starting point is 00:49:08 I honestly, and again, we read the title and it came up because we really started it. It's like, how is this movie going to do worse than the Marvels? Because this is infinitely better. I'll watch this film 10 times before I watch the Marvels again. Same, same. And it's, and the question, though, the difference between the Mar, like, because I think the Marvel's had Deadpool and Wolverine that followed up right after it, right? So it's like, okay, Marvel, they would do this thing where they're like, yeah, that one kind of underperformed and then that one hit big. Look at, say, Eternals and then whenever Guardians three came out or even Thor, four, which is a complete shit piece, still made $800, $800 million. That's insane. It's insane. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:49:45 It's insane. People like that movie. What? People like that movie. Less and less more in the rewatch. I don't know. Not me, but people. But we walked out at that theater. People liked it. It's one of those movies that I think in hindsight has now people going, oh, maybe it wasn't
Starting point is 00:50:03 because I'm with you, Roxanne. I felt like I was on a different planet when I walked out of that premiere. Like I was telling people, I remember I was talking to Greg about it. And he's like, what do you mean? It was really good. And other people are really good. I'm like, I told Winston, I said, this is a bad movie. I was like, this is, I did not like that movie.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Anyway, so when it comes to this movie, because you look at the other up and down, up and down, so where does that put Thunderbolts, right? Like what kind of position is Thunderbolts in right now? Because you're going to have Dead Bullivorine annihilates, does one point, whatever billion dollars makes a lot of money, and then you follow up with Captain America, which whether you believe the reshoot costs or not,
Starting point is 00:50:47 looks like it's going to be a bigger miss for them financially. And then here comes Thunderbolts in a May spot. Nobody really knows about the confidence. The difference between people who are Guardians and wouldn't know what Guardians was, the confidence in Marvel by the time Guardians came was, there was through the roof. Everybody's like, well, what's, and then you look at the star power that they had and everything, what they were doing with it,
Starting point is 00:51:10 they were in a very different position back then. This is an unknown movie with Star Power still. and it looks pretty damn good. This is a movie where I hope that word of mouth helps it if it's really good. And if that carries over, then Fantastic Four Into the Avengers, then they should be in a good spot. But if they go from Captain America Brave New World underperforming
Starting point is 00:51:33 to Thunderbolts underperforming, the excitement from Fantastic Four into Avengers is going to be not great. Something that just hit me and I was thinking about this. trying to understand because I remember Ben, I remember pre-pandemic, I'll say this, and maybe right before end game or maybe right after end game, I remember talking with a lot of our friends and I go, I go,
Starting point is 00:51:57 do you guys think Marvel ever have a bomb? And we were all like, no, they'll never have a, they'll make a bad movie, but they won't have a bomb. Right. And here we are. And I'm trying to understand like Thunderbolts. Here we are, Mike, as in you think that they've had many?
Starting point is 00:52:11 Yeah. Okay. Marbles is a bomb. This was a bomb. Like, a couple of, a lot of the TV shows aren't working for them. And I think we're at a place to where, you know, streaming pandemic change. People, and again, we've known this for a while, not going to movies. Marvel has lost the, oh, my God, I need to see this before it's spoiled because what's coming next?
Starting point is 00:52:35 And to know that Thunderbolts has not attached to anything. And we talk about this, guys, we don't even know who the Avengers are going into an Avengers movie in a year from now. Right. So why do I need to see? Like I will see Thunderbolts because I love Bucky Barnes and Yelana Belov and all those characters. Those characters and Thunderbolts to me are incredible. And to see them together, I'm excited for Thunderbolts more than I was for Cap. And Fantastic Four.
Starting point is 00:52:58 I love the Fantastic Four. So, but I'm not the audience you need to get. But general audiences are going to come main. They're like, I'll catch it on Disney Plus. I pay $160 a year for Disney Plus. And it's not, I don't need to know about the. Robert Donnie Jr. is not in this because he's going to be in the next one. So they might not even know that.
Starting point is 00:53:15 But it is the age-old question. We've been asking this question forever. Is this superhero fatigue and kind of like the, you know, it's funny. I just ran into one, I just ran into one of the guys who works here, this building. And I should ask him this question. I was just, so I'm briefly. But I wonder like the casual viewer, like when the last comic book movie he saw was, right? And the answer is, I don't watch that shit, maybe.
Starting point is 00:53:38 I don't know. Or it could be, you know, watch a lot of the earlier Marvel stuff. And then I just bailed on them and watched it. It's like, you have to hope. that the audience invests all the way through in order to be able to continue on a run from like one to three. And right now, I can guarantee you that if I asked that dude that I just ran into, are you excited about the Thunderbolts? I guarantee he probably would say, what is the Thunderbolts?
Starting point is 00:54:01 What do you think his answer to the last movie he saw was? Connacle book movie. Oh, you mean in general? Yeah, the Batman. Maybe the Batman. Yeah. Batman, Batman puts Batman is a name that like my parents Wolverine. I bet you I bet you Deadpool Wolverine
Starting point is 00:54:18 he was maybe. I'm glad you said that because I asked a lot of people about Deadpool and if we look back, is it a good movie? No. But and I said what sold? And a lot of people said it was Jackman and Reynolds's chemistry off screen and the build up and the way that I hyped is like I wanted to see them together.
Starting point is 00:54:36 And that's brought people in. That brought the people that I got to see this. I want to see these two guys together because the movie itself remember we thought this is going to explain the multiverse this is going to be him coming into the MCU it didn't do any of that that was the biggest mistake they made the multiverse was the biggest mistake
Starting point is 00:54:53 they made it it was I understand why they went for it but it was a big mistake we got to get to TV so we have we had other stories but we just had a really good conversation and stuff so I'm gonna I'm gonna say about the TV stuff or yeah the picks
Starting point is 00:55:10 that I added something in the last five minutes. Oh, no, is it 1923? No, it's Daredevil, which I didn't have on there. I messed up. I can add the picture while you're talking about the other stuff. So, Roxy. Yeah, go ahead. Not complaining, but as the reigning champion.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Yes. And as somebody who's dealing with Hot Mess Express with you guys today, where my people at? Oh, yeah, today, where are you at right now? Yeah, where are my people at? You're at 25 right now. So Roka has you. Wow.
Starting point is 00:55:45 This could be, this could be unprecedented. Roxy might not win four in a row. We'll see. And if he does, he deserves it. Doing a solo show is tough. But. Well, Rox, Stefan Mike are back tomorrow. And then you also got, or Thursday.
Starting point is 00:55:59 And then you got a coin on Friday. Heavy competition. Yeah. Yeah. So it's still have some competition. Okay. Let's get to your, you have quite a few here today. So let's get to some of them.
Starting point is 00:56:10 And I add to them. where'd they go? Are you kidding me? Where all these things go? I'd added all the... Just stay on me for this whole time, yeah. No, we should. But we have... We have quite a... Well, is for the way you look at me. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Don't do that. Oh, go ahead. Grace Anatomy came back for the first time in 2025. I'll watch this show until the wheels fall off. Just so you know, Christian, Meredith Gray's no longer.
Starting point is 00:56:41 on the show and that picture is from Gray's Anatomy. She's been on the show as a regular in years. The lead character, Gray's Anatomy is not on the show anymore. That is what I said. Why is it still in the air then? Why does anyone care? The show's still so good. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:57:00 The show is excellent. What are they guys, for all of you who are watching, which I know is all of you guys, what are they doing with red-headed big doctor? Teddy. Like, are they going, are they heading for a divorce? I mean, it's not. Nobody, there's nobody in this live chat that watches that. It's nuts. Are my right, guys? Am I right? Am I right? Um, but I want to shout out because it came back and this show put some respect on its name. Any show that runs for more than two decades. That's crazy. I don't know how long it's actually been, but I think it's been like 17 years. Okay. So that's that thing. Apparently it's still in the air. All right. And then another show that's
Starting point is 00:57:38 still in the air, apparently. Yeah, I put this on also because this came back. And I, I'm watching this season and nobody is watching with me. So I hope you guys start watching me. The episode from last night, by the way, this is not the cast of the show anymore. It is Carrie Underwood. I love this. Just picture Carrie Underwood there. The reason that that's relevant is because Carrie Underwood knows every word to every song.
Starting point is 00:58:02 And so no matter who comes on stage now, like she sing every lyric to corn songs. Like she's doing heavy metal stuff. It is kind of wild to watch also. one of the Backstreet Boys' sons was on last night's episode. I really dig American Idol. I took all like 10 years off of it, and I started watching them last year, and it's really cool to watch people live their dream,
Starting point is 00:58:22 and this show still makes stars, so that's cool. I guess. And next one after that is... Okay, Daredevil Born Again is really good. I really like this show. I prefered episode two to episode one, but I'm sure you've talked about it until you're boo in the face on this show.
Starting point is 00:58:40 But to not have it on my TV picks would have been egregious. I'm glad to have this back and can't wait to keep talking about the season as it goes on. I'm about to actually release my immediate reaction for episode three. And then my actual full reaction for it will be out tonight. Have you seen three yet? I'm halfway through. Okay. Next one after that.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Paradise is a show that you guys screamed at me to watch. and I'm so glad you did. This show on Blue. The show is really good. It's one of those shows where you think one thing's happening in the first episode and then there's a big reveal at the end and you're like, oh, whoa. I love the characters. I love the mystery.
Starting point is 00:59:26 I love the relationships. This is a really, really fun one. Thanks for getting me to watch this. And I hear that it's already had its finale and that that rocked. So I can't wait to get there. I'm on episode five right now. Okay. And finally, I'm surprised 1923 is not on here.
Starting point is 00:59:40 but finally. I don't put everything I watch every week. And I talked about 1923 last week. Severance is the only show that I put on every single week. Christian, if you're on the list of every show that I'm watching right now, we'd have 45 shows. But Severance had, to me,
Starting point is 00:59:54 the weakest episode of the show so far this week, unfortunately. It wasn't that it's not a good episode. Did you see it, Christian? No, I'm about halfway through last week's, which it was too hyped up for me last week. Yeah, I hear you. Then you're definitely not going to like this one as much. This is a Patricia Arquette-centered episode.
Starting point is 01:00:12 She's amazing. As a bottle episode, as a standalone, it is really cool. But it took an hour to get us to a place that we understand one thing. And we could have done that, I think, a lot briefer. My biggest issue with this episode was that it was back to back with last week's episode because we've been gone from our core four for now two weeks. I guess that was my problem with last week. Because DJ was talking about how it was like the best,
Starting point is 01:00:37 Thanks, Mike. DJ was talking about how it was like one of the best episodes like of all the whole season. Yeah. I'm waiting for it, waiting for it to happen. And I'm like, maybe something happens at the end, but I'm like, I was kind of. Yeah, no, I watched last week twice because I liked the episode, but then he was like, it was the greatest and I was like, I went back and watched it again. It's really beautifully done and it is like.
Starting point is 01:00:58 I got to see how it closes. I got to say it closes because I'm, I'm like, I'm just half an hour in. And I'm like, what am I missing here? Because I'm bored. It's beautifully done. I love the romance element. there's some more stuff to it which you'll get to but having that back to back with a patricia archette with a um melody uh co about cobel what why can't think her name right now melody no what's her first name
Starting point is 01:01:21 no the melody no who are our main character redhead no no no no pat oh i don't remember no i yeah whatever um i i just think that that it's too long away harmony thank you jesus christ mal thank you harmony harmony harmony melody and harmony i see what i did there yep close um so yeah anyway i really love the show i just want to meaning it now that i know to lower my expectations going to it um i watched 1923 uh this time and i yeah it's i'm all i'm all no i'm not am i caught up no i'm not caught up I'm almost cut up. Um, but one episode, but I'm about half an episode behind. We, we started watching the latest one at my mom's place with, uh, my wife and I,
Starting point is 01:02:08 and then it was just getting too late because we had to wake up for the flight the next morning. So really digging. I liked what they did with the, with the wife. Yeah. There's a long scene with her, but it's excellent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I love this show.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Um, yeah, I try to mix it up for you guys. Like, I know that sometimes there are a few of you guys who are like, oh, I'm excited for this thing to be back and this thing to be back. so I don't put everything I'm watching every week, but that definitely is one of my favorite shows on right now. You didn't put one of my things up. Do you know that? I didn't.
Starting point is 01:02:38 What I miss? Andrew Schultz is special. Oh. I thought I had the picture. You just talk about it because I don't know the picture. Andrew Schultz has a special. I didn't realize he was such a controversial person. I don't know anything about him.
Starting point is 01:02:51 I don't listen to his podcast, so I, or either he gets on podcasts or he has it on podcast. He was that raw last night. I saw that. I saw the clip of Paul. It was a good segment. Grabbing him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:05 But he, to me, if I'm going to listen to non-PC comedians, he's the best of the best. Like his special, it's called Life, had me crying. I was laughing so hard. And I don't know,
Starting point is 01:03:21 because I mentioned it the other day, just Steph or somebody in there like, you listen, you watch Andrew Schultz? and I was like, I don't know anything about him other than I think he's the funniest mofo alive. I was crying. I mean, he was, it was genuinely such a funny special. It was just so, like, it was comedy to me.
Starting point is 01:03:41 I just think he's hysterical. So I heard, I can't remember who it was. There was someone telling me it was someone DM'd me. I might have been Bonnie telling me it was like her favorite special that she had seen. I can't remember. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Christian. I was like, you know. know, I just, as you know from this show, I tend to watch a lot of comedy specials. Yeah, she said one of the best comedy specials I've ever seen is what she was. It was so good. I'm glad that she said that because nobody's talking about it. I haven't heard anybody. I didn't even, uh, the only reason I know who he is is because he's Jewish and sometimes he speaks about Jewish stuff and I'll get those clips on my whatever. Probably she haven't heard of him because you're usually tied into it. He's, I have heard of him
Starting point is 01:04:18 because he's Jewish. I've only heard him. I meant, but I meant like more more tied into it, his stuff because he's so, he's, yeah, I'm just not super tied into him. him. I think he is so funny that I don't know about the podcast stuff, but I will, any specialty he puts out, I was crying. It was so good. Okay. So there you go. There's all the recommendations there. We're going to get into the questions now. Oh, you would like it, Chris. What? Roxy. Go ahead, Mike. No, go ahead. What's wrong, Mike? Nothing. Go ahead. You would like it, Christian. It's a lot. lot about the birth of his first kid and like not knowing what the fuck to do as a father in
Starting point is 01:05:02 or anywhere. It was, I think it would speak to you actually. It was very funny. Not the part that, not the part that takes him a while to get them to get pregnant. But just the, it's funny because like,
Starting point is 01:05:13 I don't mind him. Like when I listen to somebody, and even like, there's some, there's certain things that he said that every, every comedian, every person gets themselves into trouble. And from what I hear from people that know him to,
Starting point is 01:05:26 he's supposed to be a good guy too. So I don't do the point of your Twitter thing. So what I will say is everything I've seen in interviews and things that I've heard, I've just never really gravitated towards a stand-up. But I don't know, maybe I'll check out the special and say. You guys are telling me that he's not Jewish. It's the best friend. But I don't think that's right.
Starting point is 01:05:48 I think that he is. I'm pretty sure because I've seen all these clips about him talking about being Jewish. So it would be weird if he wasn't. All right. What are you going to say, Mike? Yeah. Mike's thinking. Rex, did you say you watch 45 hours of television a week?
Starting point is 01:06:04 No, no. I was saying, I mean, I know it's your job and that's your thing, but I was like, no. So like, I'll give you guys a realistic example. This week I watch Kardashians, Yellow Jackets, Love is Blind, S&L, White Lotus, Reacher, the Gabby Petito, three-part doc series, 1923, Andrew Schultz Life, Paradise. Grace, Graze Anatomy, American Idol, Abbott Elementary, The Pit, Severance,
Starting point is 01:06:31 Harley Quinn, the animated series, Shark Tank. I think those are the only ones I watched this week. Okay. All right. So let's get these questions. So you have 37. You got to beat Roca today. If you want to beat Roca, you need another 30.
Starting point is 01:06:46 All right, let's start. Nathan Drake. All this talk about Rachel Zegler. We haven't talked about this. I think Gal Gadot will be the weak link in Snow White. I'm not convinced she can pull off a villain roll. I got to see what the full article is, but it's essentially that the rumor is the fact that they're going to pull this premiere from the UK because they're worried about the controversy with Rachel Ziegler. It's not tracking very well, the movie itself. Now, what do we think about this movie in general? Is this movie going to wind up surprising people and making money here, Roxy? Because, you know, I always say it. If you can get the families in there, it doesn't matter what Twitter says. If you can get the families in there, that's where you're going to win. Is this movie going to make money, or is it going to be a, a, problem for Disney.
Starting point is 01:07:27 I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. What you got saying? My gut says it's going to make money. Okay. I don't know. What do you say?
Starting point is 01:07:39 I don't know, man, because again, these movies are not even something I think about, really. But then you'll tell me that Moana 2 makes a billion dollars. You know, again, we live in this Twitter film bubble that cares what Rachel Zagler said about something and it doesn't really matter to people that just like, oh, it's a new snow white. Yeah. I don't know, I don't, man.
Starting point is 01:08:02 As far as Galgadoot, I don't mind Galgado as much as everybody else does as far as her acting goes. I just don't mind her acting. I just, I don't think it's great. I only think it's terrible. Hey, it's a woman that speaks two languages and speaks them incredibly well.
Starting point is 01:08:17 You know, I'm sure if I went to Israel and was going to be an Israeli actor, I'm sure people would say I'd be terrible trying to perform in a language that's not my first language. So that buys a lot of leeway for me. They were just like watch mojo. Oh, I saw that.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Yeah. Why did you? I was shocked they did that, Christian. It's weird that they did that. It was like worst Galgado line deliveries, watch. I saw that. And I thought it was just some person that just did it because, you know, you see just regular people doing that kind of shit.
Starting point is 01:08:43 But I was surprised when they said it was watch Mojo that did that. I was like, what are they interesting that they went after? Also, just going back so that people don't fly in my DNA and tell me, okay, he is not Jewish. He just has his best. friend is Jewish. So he talks about having a best friend who's Jewish all the time. The way he speaks about it made me think that he was, but I think he's still freaking hysterical. Okay. Next one. This is Hunter Vance. Is it just me that's hoping they go back to the 60s or the
Starting point is 01:09:12 70s with the new Bond films? The character, the cool cars, the gadgets just seem a better fit for that time period. Curious what you think, Mike. I'll tell exactly what I think. I think the studio won't do it because they're going to go, man from uncle did that and didn't do well. That's how studios think. That's exactly. I mean, that is also cost more.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Yeah, it's a studio. I mean, a Bond 60s would be great. I mean, but also you think back to Bonn and the books in the 60s and there's a reason why there was this kind of thing to kind of PC the books and make them edited because Bond, if you go to the original source material, he was sexist, he was racist, he was, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:55 but if they wanted to go a harder version with it, you know, you could tailor things, but you got to remember in the 60s, it's a different time for women, it's a different time for people of color, and you got to stay true to that. Yeah, but they don't always stay true. I know they won't. And then that will make people go, nope, it's not bond, it's different, this and that. You had some work before that even happens. Okay, Hunter Vance. Christian, I have to thank you for recommending severance. That's right. I recommended it rocks. I'm actually glad Apple does
Starting point is 01:10:26 no promotion for their shows. Make a joke, right? No, this is, I swear. He said, I have to thank you for recommending severance. Why don't you put it on screen anymore? Because, well, there's some, for some reason, stream yard has been doing this really, really, really stupid thing that it loses some of the streamyards for no reason, or the, the superchats for no reason. I don't know why it does it. So these, the ones that I'm not putting it up on screen. Perfect. Yeah. So there's another,
Starting point is 01:10:54 but there's only two. I don't know why it does this. It loses it. Are you in starred? Because I see it in starred. You see that one in start? Christian, I have to thank you for recommending severance.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Let's say, you know what? It's not lined up in this, in the order it came in, maybe. Oh, it's third from the top for me right now. Yeah, no, it's not there for me. Huh, weird.
Starting point is 01:11:14 It's weird. Okay. So, just kidding. Oh, there you go. Perfect. Okay, so anyway, Roxy, all this shit, threw me off, Roxy. Just kidding, Kroxie.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Not yet, not yet, not yet, not yet, not yet, not yet, not yet. Christian, I have to thank you for recommending severance. I'm actually glad Apple does no promotion for their shows. I hadn't seen a single frame before starting the first episode, and that's how I would recommend watching it. So then he says, they really don't do promotion for shows. It's weird.
Starting point is 01:11:46 The credit goes to you for recommending severance and bad monkey. Apple should be paying you. You're the only promotion of their shows that I ever see. Apple should be paying me. The way that I ride for Apple, like it's the biggest number one. I mean, I watch everything on Apple.
Starting point is 01:12:02 I love them. You should have your own show where you talk about TV show. Yeah, I've been thinking about it, Christian. I've been thinking about it because we announced on World Girls this week that we are taking a step back from doing World Girls and Nive streams. Steph and I are focusing on our writing stuff right now. and it's just been too complicated to schedule with our lives.
Starting point is 01:12:22 But I'm going to be doing more live with the Roxy. And I'm thinking about doing once a week, like just a TV breakdown show, just because I watch so much stuff. Yeah, I hear you. Mike Joyce, what was the most noteworthy thing you saw in person? Oh, you mean like concerts? Like a landmark? No, I think he means like concerts or sports things or things along the long.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Oh, Patriots, Super Bowl. against the Seahawks watching them come back and me being on the 50-yard line, watching that insane last few minutes of the game. That was probably the middle of the goal. It's pretty good. I saw the Seminoles win the National Championship twice. That was pretty great. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:13:07 So Lennox-Lewis fight Vitali Klitsko and a heavyweight championship match. That's cool. That was awesome. I watched Rashad Evans, well, Rashad Evans lost the, the UFC title to Machita. I actually saw Matt Serra fight in person against, yeah, he fought Matt Hughes.
Starting point is 01:13:26 I still, I think he won the fight. I was on the same card. I saw Michael Jordan play one of his last games with the Wizards. He shot a game winning shot against the Knicks. Any game that you went to to see Michael Jordan is now, like a new worthy thing. So Oscar Delahoya fight.
Starting point is 01:13:45 I saw, I'm trying to think of some of the people, as far as concert, Rolling Stones. Mine's my big three that I've seen the Red Sox, the Patriots, and the Celtics all win championships in person. Oh, and people are wrestling fans. I went to WrestleMania 2 and 17.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Mikey, chime in. I saw Billy Joel in his first concert back after his divorce from Christy Brinkley. And that was kind of, I saw Jackson 5 with Michael Jackson in the height of their tour the 80s. Where? And Jacksonville, Florida.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Cool. And then I saw there was this, it was like, it was like equivalent of a, like, you take boxing, you take wrestling, you take all the heavyweights in the world. And there's this one player that just kind of came in and thought that was going to dominate and nobody could beat. And then the underdog came and beat him. And the final thing was like, Kahnowski beat Smets. Kahnowski beats Smets.
Starting point is 01:14:44 I was there for that. I was there for that. I was there for that. I'd say, you know who I would try to like, I would actually try to find and see if he'd be interested in playing is GoPel. I'd actually want to, I would try to recruit him. You bring him back, Christian? No. A lot of people recently just bring stuff up and Shmodon to me.
Starting point is 01:15:04 I get people asking me to bring it back all the time. No way. Go pal. Everybody knows is Leonard Cohen from pump up the volume over my right shoulder? Yes, it is. That's right, GoPel. GoPel probably would have been really good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Okay. next one after that gopel is the only person who guessed it israel lopez roxy are you watching the Mayfair which is season two if so did you like it i'm loving the reactions with sam please consider doing one piece season two at sam i'll probably do one piece by myself because uh because sam's not going to go back and watch um season one without me and i've already watched one i did all of one i mean i know well you watch all those other ones too i got too much stuff right now and i like season one a lot I'll definitely be doing season two by myself but Sam and plus Sam's gonna be really busy Sam's got um Roxie I think you just started following Sam I love
Starting point is 01:15:52 her yes she's the best obsessed yeah so yeah so yeah so to the first part of this question oh go ahead sorry no go please please first person I'm I swear to you this is so bad because I really like Alexander Didario I've never heard of the show before you just said that Mayfair which is oh wow I don't know what that is it says that it's on AMC plus which is probably why I haven't heard of it. Only reason I'm how it is because they pitched a bunch of people as far as for interviews, and I requested a few who never saw any of them still. So I don't know this.
Starting point is 01:16:23 That was no shade on AMC Plus. I just don't have it. So I, yeah, I like her. I've never heard of this, though. I can't believe that it was a season two.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Yeah. My choice. How much do you tip on DoorDash on every day over five? It depends on how much the order is. You know, I always, I was way over tip there. I think I way over tip.
Starting point is 01:16:41 On DoorDash? Yeah, I usually have been restaurants. I don't really over tip on DoorDash. I think I usually do about 20%. Usually when I'm doing DoorDash, it's for like grocery. It's a lot of bags. A lot of stuff. Yeah, I get it.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Yeah, see, for what I had today, it wasn't. Yeah, if you're just getting like a salad or a pizza or a meal or whatever, I think $5 is probably good. Depends. Armagh. Go ahead, Mike. What are you complaining about? Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:17:06 No, I'm just going to ask you DoorDash groceries? Yeah, they do groceries. Yeah, I'll do like postmates. or whatever, especially during the pandemic, I always was doing it. And then I kind of got in a swing of it. There is this place called, it's not DoorDash, it's called Yummy is what I use.
Starting point is 01:17:22 But I didn't think that was relevant to my answer. Armada, why I was Christian doing prop comedy with Mike, bloody lip? Oh, no, there's a good start to the show. Usually it's my... It is crazy that you came on with a bleeding leg. It was the best. Now every show, I want you to come on with some kind of injury.
Starting point is 01:17:37 I know. It was like, somewhere. Like, what's his face just did? Jack Quaid. You see Jack Quaid? He's promoting that movie. Yeah. And so he was at some basketball game or something to it.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Every time they cut to him, he had like a new injury. Yeah. It's hilarious. God damn Greg Alba was like, you know I run Real Reject Social. And Greg went to the premiere. So I texted him after saying,
Starting point is 01:18:00 hey, did you take a single photo at the premiere? No. Perfect. Not one of you, not one of anybody else. You didn't pull out your phone for one photo. He was like, no. All right.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Hey, one of the night off. the movie. He really did want to go see the movie and he loved the movie. But holy shit, send me a photo. Yeah, that's fair. Big Busta. I love the reactions with Sam. I also think it's a good choice to watch Spider-Man No Way Home after Far From
Starting point is 01:18:28 Home because it's direct continuation. Yeah, we had originally thought about going back to the MCU right after Far from Home and starting with Wanda Vision kind of catching up to No Way Home. I'm like, why? It doesn't really tie in anything. So we're going to finish all the Spider-Man stuff. We're going to do No Way Home. And then after No Way Home, we're going to do the Spider-Win' Home.
Starting point is 01:18:43 we're going to do the Spider-Verse movies and then we'll get back to the MCU. Sean McCabe. What's up, Sean? Hey, Mike and Roxy Christian, glad you had fun. We'll deserve. Thank you, man. Yeah, we had a, it was a good time. The kids had fun.
Starting point is 01:18:58 My little one sang karaoke, which was awesome. I feel like you didn't tell us enough about it, but maybe that's the point. Yeah. Well, my little one, they both sang karaoke, but, but my, my oldest is, you know, you guys know, she's always been grabbing the microphones and talking and doing a, of type of stuff, but the little one has been more shy, but she, she was singing both defying gravity and how I think of your kids, Christian. Really? No. Oh, the little one is she's shy. You think Maisie's shy? Oh, yeah. She's a, we had this whole conversation with their school. She's a comedian.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Well, when she's not, comedian. When she's not shy. And Vivi's like, she's not shy. She's very, but she also is like a book reader and like, well, you, yeah, you've seen, you've seen, you've seen, you've seen, the kind of evolution of of yeah like it's like because when she was when you see her her stand up at my at my brother's wedding vivies was pretty good but yeah maisie stuff maisie says is is hilarious but she's really shy huh it takes her second to warm up and then when she does like she like my family was it was all saying she's warmed up to to everybody when she came back so she was like delting out um defying gravity and taylor swift which it was hilarious yeah uh armada also Heretic was awesome. Definitely a reaction needed. I might have to do maybe you know what maybe I'll do that one with Tina next.
Starting point is 01:20:19 You know, I haven't seen it. I haven't either. I haven't seen that that's you know what thank you armada you just you just chose my next reaction with Tina because I'm trying to I've been trying to do stuff I want one video with her to hit you we haven't had one with her. It has been big hit yet. I'm trying to get a hit with Tina. Armada more squid game reactions coming. Yes, but it's on the lower side of things as I told you guys I want to stick to my promise and complete them, but I can't put the resources to the things that not a lot of people are watching. The last one barely did 3,000 views. And I can't put the resources into it right now when I have all this other stuff that I have to do because I don't have the time.
Starting point is 01:20:56 But I will get to it. I'm not going to watch it until I do the reactions. I got dare double reactions I'm doing now too. So it's like I just can't, I can't do it when I know like six people are going to watch it. And you being one of those people are modest. So thank you. I have a quick question for you guys. When we were talking about what
Starting point is 01:21:11 the person in your hallway had seen comic book movie was last. You guys know my go-to is texting my sister who's just a normal doesn't watch all this stuff. And I said, have you ever seen a comic book movie before? And she said yes, and she told me which one comic book
Starting point is 01:21:27 movie she's ever seen in her life? Ever seen one. Do you guys want to guess what it was? Can you? That's kind of be tough. The dark night. How old is your sister? 28. No, she didn't see it.
Starting point is 01:21:43 night um Deadpool Wolverine I'll say uh yet I'll bet you it's some random one it is
Starting point is 01:21:55 I'll say Ant man it's Hulk oh the first Hulk yeah that's hilarious the Eric Banna one no Edward Norton I assume I was I think it's Edward
Starting point is 01:22:08 Norton she didn't she was she would be yeah um okay Let's see. Next one. Hunter Vance.
Starting point is 01:22:16 I can't watch live. I never can, but here's some more support for Roxy and Mike before I go. Have a great day, everyone. Thank you so much. You guys are close to Catching Roca. You're 53.
Starting point is 01:22:26 Hunter Vance is such a prestigious, like, I'm Hunter Vance. You must end being, I am Hunter Vance. Of the Vance. I'm of the Vance's. This is my Hunter Jr. All right.
Starting point is 01:22:41 EWalk, would you like to see Amazon, on make a one-off old man bond, Mike, in the vein of Logan. If so, who should return for the role? Dalton, Bronson, or Craig? 100%. I mean, me personally, we love to see Bronson. Bronson.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Tom, right? Tim and Dalton, you mean? Pierce, Prosnin. I'm reading those bansom. You guys both kept saying Bronson. And in my head, I was saying, I thought I'm like, Bronson. I didn't say Bronson.
Starting point is 01:23:09 I said Brosden. No, I did. Dalton would be my go-to, but I think Pierce Brosnan just... He would be the best old man, Brown. He just, yeah. Yeah, that would be great.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Jake S. Christian, do you remember seeing the bullseye character? If you do, then you've seen season three of Daredevil. Hmm. I don't necessarily know what that means. Only reason why... I think he's asking if in the...
Starting point is 01:23:34 If you remember in the Netflix series, seeing Bullseye? No, I think he's... Jake can confirm this, but I think because I couldn't tell when I was watching in my reactions. I'm saying, I think that's bullseye. I'm not sure of this. Yeah. I know you said.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Yeah, you're right. Yeah. And so I think that that's why. Yeah. That's what he said. Go ahead, Billy. You know something to say? I was just trying to.
Starting point is 01:23:55 I was talking to someone too? I was like, what happened to the end of season three? Was he in jail? I was like, and he just pops up in this handmade costume. I'm kind of like, all right. Here we go. Who's Billy? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:07 I said, it's a good job, Billy. thanks Jeff, no problem, Tom. You three rule. Your chemistry is the tits. The tits! With the relaunch of the new DC... The hallway probably has heard me scream, tits. The new DCU could we get a reboot of the DC movie news with Roxy and Mike?
Starting point is 01:24:24 I'd love it. Can I get a motherfucking Batman from Paul Giamatti? I think that we can make that happen. Maybe. My motherfucking Batman! Mike and I have talked about it. loved DC movie news. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:41 And we're still, to this day, we are still in a group chat that goes off every once in a while. Yeah. Well, good. There you go. Victor. Johnny does great. Have you guys seen Johnny in years? And last time I, well, he was on the show last year.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Media. Yeah, I'm on the show last year before. She seems to be living like the happiest, greatest life. I'm so stoked for that kid. Like, he is the best. Yeah. Victor Garrity. If I'm Amazon and Nolan is a no-go,
Starting point is 01:25:08 I call Martin Campbell. Say what you want about his other flicks. He rebooted Bond to great success twice. Did he directed twice? Yeah, Golden Eye and Casino, Rel. You know, I was talking about that the other day. Martin Campbell is such a weird director
Starting point is 01:25:20 because he does Golden Eye, Casino Royale, Mascazoro, but then it does Green Lantern. And I just saw, I don't know if any of you guys saw this, The Cleaner with Daisy Ridley. Any good? Oof. Oh, it's terrible. Dude, I'm like, oh, man,
Starting point is 01:25:36 there's this movie. I'm like, but, hey, I talk about movies. That movie probably cost $30, $40 million, and it got a theatrical run. I went to the movies and I saw it in the movies. So, hey, there we go. But yeah, he's a weird director.
Starting point is 01:25:50 He's a director. I think he has to love what he's going to do. He just can't come in and go, I'll fix this up. Or, oh, you got a script. Yeah. I think he really needs to have like a, oh, I've got an idea for this.
Starting point is 01:25:59 But when it comes to Bonn, he knows what he's twice with two different actors. He knows what he's doing? Seems like he likes it. Tyler, Gosha, Mike, what's your favorite story working at Disney Parks. Oh, I got my best one.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Okay. So any of the one doesn't know, I'd work the Indiana Jones stunt show in Orlando for about 10 years, one of my favorite roles are ever done. And I've done the show at this point for like five years. I'm going to freeze and think about this. And one day we're doing the show. And if you've ever seen the show,
Starting point is 01:26:26 it starts off with like the temple scene with the bowels rolling. And then the set opens up and then the actors come out. We're kind of killing time while everyone's changing the set to the Moroccan village. and we're sitting there and one of the guys comes up to he's like, hey, Mike, and we're between the scenes and he's like, hey, Mike, you're nervous. I'm like, no, and I'm getting my gun from the prop armor. And he's like, why?
Starting point is 01:26:46 I go, why? I've done the show forever. He's like, go look in VIP. And I turn over and I shit you not. There he is. Flannel shirt, gray beard, is George Lucas with his family in the VIP in the front row. And I have to do the rest of the show, Indiana Jones, as George Lucas in the audience.
Starting point is 01:27:02 And I met him afterwards, and he was very, George Lucas, very quiet, very reserved, not very talkative, but was very, took pictures with us and yeah. How cool is that to be watched by George Lucas? It was no, it was terrifying. Terrifying. He did a very good job. I'm like, yeah, it's very good there.
Starting point is 01:27:22 Terrifying, Roxie. My favorite George Lucas video of all time is the guy who was doing like just like the commercial in San Francisco and like randomly or like a document, whatever he's doing. Oh, he comes right behind him. He's just like, just like, I just watched some newscaster that was doing something, and then Chris Hemsworth was behind her. Did you see this?
Starting point is 01:27:43 And he grabs the mic. Oh, I can see that. I saw that, yeah. I was like, where the hell? What the hell? This is the female gaze. No, that's Chris Hemsworth. Female gaze.
Starting point is 01:27:53 You and I both love him. We love that. That's so cool, Mike. That does look like something that you get at Universal Studios. That picture there, I believe that it's true, obviously. It looks like he's a cutout. It does. And you kind of do, too.
Starting point is 01:28:05 So, but so, yeah, it's pretty great. So here's another story. So when Shannon moved into my house, we only had one. Oh, okay. That's a good one. If we get to 100, Mike gets to tell us other story. All right. Okay, so when we moved into the house here, Shannon moved into the house.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Yeah, you look good. We're arranging stuff and moving things around. And she's over here in the corner. She's like, hey, babe, who's this? And they go, what do you? She's like, this picture. There's this guy with you and this old guy and a beard. Who is this?
Starting point is 01:28:31 I go, what? She goes, who's this guy? I go, George Lucas, and she's like, who? She didn't know I'd know who George Lucas was. I mean, but yeah, but look, I wonder. Dude, it's George Lucas. He's got a look. It's not like, I'm going to ask my wife.
Starting point is 01:28:46 I'm going to send a picture. That makes you second guess, the movie? I'm going to put, I'm going to put. But Roxy, I mean, if someone say, Deney Villeneuve, if she said, who's this, you wouldn't know. But George Lucas, like, this. I'm going to send a picture of George Lucas to my wife. Do you guys think she knows?
Starting point is 01:29:03 It's not not recognizing by the photo is one thing not knowing his name. Right. I'm going to ask you thing. I'll ask you. I'm going to. Do you know who this is? Question mark? What?
Starting point is 01:29:16 I'm going to. What's you think Lucas film was? Just whatever. You know, she's not into those films. So. Ewa. My top five bond films on her majesty secret service,
Starting point is 01:29:27 the living daylights, GoldenEye, Dr. Noah and Casinoe. What would you swap for your top five, Mike? That's a great top. five right there. I might put in
Starting point is 01:29:35 oh, the spy who love me. Or five only. I put those somewhere. Roman Fedora. Hale. Roxy, I'm catching up and enjoying your reactions. Loved your Coppola, Dracula reaction. What are some of your favorite reactions? Thanks. Thanks, man. I loved that movie. So good. You guys probably already knew that.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Yeah, it's good. Did you... Which one did you like better? Nosephratu, or that one? I think Dracula, but... Same story, obviously. Yeah, yeah, they're both so good, though. I love my The Orphan 2 reaction with Greg because I was shocked by that. Society of the Snow with John because I never would have seen that movie otherwise. And I just thought it was the most beautiful, incredible movie.
Starting point is 01:30:25 And then all the Chucky ones with Tara, Chuckie is like my actual favorite franchise now. I love it. Miersim, Serenity Moon, support for the lovely Roxy and the passionate, Mike. There you go. I feel like, lovely is a word that I get described as sometimes that doesn't feel like it matches me.
Starting point is 01:30:48 It's so appreciate you, though. I think when people call me passionate, they're just like, well, he's an asshole. No, passionate. Being called passionate, I think any one of the three of us could be called passionate and probably fits. Lovely. So nice.
Starting point is 01:31:02 lovely lovely works uh go pal is there any actual reason why studios don't often more points and lower up front salaries greed seems like an obvious way to reduce budgets and share risk greed that's that's true yeah because so many people wouldn't want to do that right and well and it's also it's also the because the studios are like well it's speaking of george lucas you want you what do you want toy sales and merchant yeah go ahead you can have that we'll just go we'll take this and then they realize real quick. You know, it's funny. You hear these stories, though, where people do want points and they do take them and they
Starting point is 01:31:36 still never make money because the studio is the way they report it. Like, there's one movie, I forgot what it is where to this day has not made its money back in the accounting way that the studio did it, but it's one the most famous movies of all time. And the writer, I think it always talks about because he wanted back end points. And he's like, yeah, the studio
Starting point is 01:31:53 I have to, I mean, he's like, it's been a lawsuit forever and I'm never going to win it, but they say the movie lost money. Malibu's most wanted. Sure. Yeah. one of the most famous movies of all time. Boat Trip. Boat Trip. Boat Trip.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Mike Joyce, what movie made you see an actor in a new light? For me, it's Dennis Hopper after I saw Blue Velvet, such a strange and unsettling role. I'd probably go Robert Pattinson and Rover. Good question. Charleston Monster. My wife knew who.
Starting point is 01:32:21 She said, um, George Lucas. There we go. Okay. An actor in a new light. You prove the point. You got it. Oh. honestly denierow and um uh meet the fuckers or meet the parents oh there's a comedy yeah i mean
Starting point is 01:32:38 i knew he had done comedy before that but that was the one to me that i was like this guy is hysterical jennifer aniston and cake oh that's a good one that's a good one uh oh you'll be happy about this roxy so vivie and i just started what she she wanted to watch friends we watched the first two episodes of friends together what did she think she liked it a lot yeah she liked it a lot are you are you going to do ten seasons we're going to try to why i mean i just got to get her her to get off her freaking phone and I can and I can watch it with her but like she loves you want to guess who you want to guess who our favorite is is it Rachel no oh good God good job girlie everybody's favorite when they're not Ross no no she likes Ross but not a friendler no it's
Starting point is 01:33:19 Phoebe yeah she loves Phoebe is the best Phoebe and Chandler are my two favorites but when I was her age it was Rachel because she was just this is such a crazy thing he was just so pretty Yeah, now she doesn't care about that. She likes quirky and, and how ridiculous she is. PLB projects. Mikey's internet is a brave new world. Yes, it is. Thank you, Pielby.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Okay. Next one, as we are approaching Roka territory here. El Baba Yaga, Mike, it was me that suggested the item. It will help your Wi-Fi. It amps up the signal and it lets you create personal networks. You can have a Wi-Fi just for work and one personal items like TV or others. Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:34:01 I stream this and I bought the high one because when I game or when I watch movies on TV, I have no problems. It doesn't jutter, it doesn't do anything. It's just when I do this on the computer. So maybe it's the computer and not the Wi-Fi. I'll try it, man. Anything other than Christian show? Yeah, my house.
Starting point is 01:34:20 But you're saying you have no other issues. No, the streaming on the TV with the video games, PlayStation. You don't need it for anything other than Christian show. well, I do need Wi-Fi for those things, yeah. Do you have an issue? God damn it, Mike. Do you an issue with anything other than Christian? No, no issue. No issue.
Starting point is 01:34:39 That's what I'm saying. It works fine. It works fine on those things, Rocks. That's what I said. So let me help you. I was going to say if the only problem you're having is on the show, then Christ has got to get it for you. All right.
Starting point is 01:34:52 Here you go. God damn it, Mike. Super sticker. Thank you. I see Black Pohn, I don't know. that will not go towards a total, though. So you're going to know that, Roxy. And I'm like, PLD projects.
Starting point is 01:35:04 Whoa, whoa, whoa, we can't let Roca win. Yeah, where's Crystal? Where's this? Where's the magic lady? She doesn't think I'm here today. Yeah, that's why. Oh, the projects. You are so right, Roxy.
Starting point is 01:35:18 I don't know about what, but probably true. Dane spent. Peak hot mess. I am here for it. Christian literally showed up bleeding. I mean, I don't even know what. What can you ask? He's a clown.
Starting point is 01:35:30 That's awesome. I still don't think superhero fatigue is a thing, but Marvel fatigue for sure has set in. I'm still hoping they win us back because I love the MCU. I do think that I think Marvel fatigue is, they're just on a down, they got to get it. You can get it back if you just go, you hit, this is a what have you done for me lately if you can go boom, boom, boom, and hit three in a row, people go, oh, here, Marvel's back. We're eating good tonight, right, Mike? we are so back
Starting point is 01:35:59 we are eating good Jesus Superhero is not as much of a genre as people think it is sometimes like there's going to be just still such a future for superhero movies where we get horror movies
Starting point is 01:36:16 comedies romance movies I don't think that superhero fatigue can ever really fully set in but Marvel fatigue is definitely a thing right now Yeah, but I also think we've got two studios making these movies, and that's it. Like, where's, you know, where are these other lower budget comic movies that we, you know, they're Marvel and DC. So when you say the superhero franchise, there's DC and there's Marvel right now.
Starting point is 01:36:42 Marvel is in a slump. DC was there, so we'll see. PLD projects. My new favorite bit is how I touch Christian is in TV, but I'm right there with them. What were you out of touch about? I don't know. Your pictures. Oh, your pictures.
Starting point is 01:36:57 But I really, I don't know. Grace, she's not on the show either anymore. Oh, the pictures, the picture. Yeah. She does the intro, um, voiceover. Probably makes about $20 million for that, too, an episode. Good for her. All I did was put.
Starting point is 01:37:12 Pompeo is a beast. She was, I understood woman. I said, I said, Gray's Anatomy latest season TV poster, and that's what they gave me. Hey, little, little movie trivia Shmodeon from the champ, from the three-time champ. Ellen Pompeo was the original Karen Page in Daredevil in 2003's Ben Affleck. Yes, I'll give you some other movies. She played Karen Page. She also played Jim Carrey's girlfriend that he was with when he met Kate Winslet
Starting point is 01:37:40 in Eternal Sunshine and Spalless Mine. There were deleted scenes. Go, pal. I used to watch Grays for Izzy back in the day, but all off the time they aired a new episode on Thanksgiving. I never caught up. Maybe 2007. That's when the show was on for 40 years.
Starting point is 01:37:54 either you guys name who played izzie was that the latin woman is katherine heigel latin oh yeah i remember oh that makes seven because that's when all that shit went down with when she got herself in trouble that makes sense that's not there was a latin nurse on there though that was i enjoyed okay good for you know you don't know there's been several through the years this tv time doesn't know there's been a lot a lot of different people just a kirby latin woman in the scrub that's all i remember Roman says this is why this one is for the always incredible. Ended up being a non-binary person on Sex and the Cities reboot. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:38:39 Are you listening to what Roman just said to you? This one is for the always incredible Roxy. Thanks, Roman. This one's for Chris. I've been recently being like Roman. I don't know why. So thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:38:50 You're welcome, Roman. Thank you very much. Knock around guy. Just binge shrinking season two to sit through some feelings. what's your go-to show or film when you're down? People have asked that question before. Stop this. Jesus, now what did you hit yourself on?
Starting point is 01:39:05 Stupid microphone thing. But not my face this time. It was, I don't know as far as when I'm down. I listen to music. I don't really go to TV and music or TV and movies. You know what my thing is? And Roxie, I so admire you. You've got all this television you watch.
Starting point is 01:39:24 I can't stop going back and watching old stuff that I love. Yeah. I get it. So Mission Impossible films. I'm doing those again right now. Not because the new ones coming out. I was just like, I was feeling kind of crappy the day. And I was like, I'm going to put in fallout.
Starting point is 01:39:36 And now six days later, I've watched one every night because they're so damn good. All right. Oh, friends. That's a good one. PLD projects. Dear Devil is going to get better and better as it goes along as Benson and Moore had moved away from what was started before they got there. Great directors. By Roke.
Starting point is 01:39:56 Yeah, it looks like. I'm with Roxy. I think two is better than one episode episode two is much better did roka not like it or something no he was saying by roka because you guys look like you're going to uh pass him today keep going let's go you like one more to beat him uh chris jones hey roxy could you please recommend the companion movie to christian i feel like he would really enjoy it he was awesome christian it made for a really good reaction did you see the trailer to this no so if you can avoid any spoilers and watching the trailer at all,
Starting point is 01:40:30 this would be a great reaction. Did it do well for you? I think so let me check right now. For you and Tina? Probably Katrina, yeah. Yeah, I think that it did well for us. I'll look right now, but I covered it with Greg.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Usually he doesn't put himself on anything that doesn't do well. It's just weird because like I just don't. I wouldn't either if it's my channel. I'm putting myself on the big stuff. I just don't know if people give a shit about horror stuff on my channel every time I put a horror movie on it's usually something that I've never seen nobody watches it and it seems like mid for us
Starting point is 01:41:01 it has 36k views and that's on and that's on that's one point you know two million subscribers I mean to nobody's gonna watch it on my channel maybe it's really then you should just watch it it's really really good it's Jack Quay's got the girl from yellow jackets oh you know it is and Katie just
Starting point is 01:41:19 interviewed um on her channel um Harvey Gian from oh yeah okay I say, I say. Joey Pedrus, I get the hesitation at adding Flash and Wonder Woman so soon to the DCU, but I feel like delaying them also mistake thoughts. I agree. Because you need, you know, you don't think. I don't. I can't know what you're saying no to. No, they shouldn't delay or no, you think it's a mistake. Mike? No, she's asking. Mike, you were going no. Yeah, no. I think they need
Starting point is 01:41:51 to wait. I think the flash is such a big albatross around DC's neck because of how, everyone raved about it and then it came out and was a bomb that is and the ezra miller of it all it just has this like stink about it you got to wait maybe flash flash might be that might be true or wait but i think wonder woman i think you should really leave you should really much as okay but with wonder woman as much as wonder woman 84 people didn't like people love gal on the roll and it's still fresh it's still fresh and it's close back how would you feel you got to get batman out there you got to get batman out of it that's like i said but wait to go after that argument we just had 87 batman within the last like like i said with the batman came out that movie made 700
Starting point is 01:42:35 million dollars right at the end of a pandemic people go to see batman i know that name gets people in the seats if one wonder woman i don't know that's not the same thing you don't get people in the seats on one woman yet he doesn't have the same legacy in movies that batman does mike how would you feel if it wasn't barry allen differently i don't think the audience is no because, I mean, they need to pull a Marvel with their casting on Barry Allen and make him comic book accurate. Like, Mamoa is Lobo. That is incredible casting. So you don't think they could do Flash sooner if it wasn't Barry Allen?
Starting point is 01:43:15 I think people still love the Gustin stuff. I think he was Barry Allen and they still love Gustin. I still love Gus. I know you do. And there's a huge corner of the audience that loves him as a Flash. And that's the flash. You had 10 seasons of that. Yeah, you got to wait.
Starting point is 01:43:31 You do Wonder Woman first, but I think they're smart doing Themiscara. You get the Amazon's going. You build up the Amazon's. And then you bring one Roman. Superman doesn't do well and they don't crash the DC. You can bet your ass Batman or Wonder Woman's coming next. Is Yellow Jackets horror? I'd say yes.
Starting point is 01:43:49 Suspens horror thriller. The first episode looked pretty creepy. Yeah, it's creepy. Oh, Rocky, that's what I wanted to tell you. I'm glad that I just remember this. On the plane, I watched the first three episodes to the Dexter prequel. And? It's awesome.
Starting point is 01:44:04 Oh, why are we like this, Christian? It's awesome. I know. Why am I not doing, I don't get why I'm not watching this. So I don't know if I would have watched it. I would not have been on the plane. But I just, the reason why I tuned into it is everybody told me how good it was. And I'm a big Dexter fan.
Starting point is 01:44:20 I'm all cut up on the entire series. And then I was like, all right, let me check it out. people say the kid who plays dexter is amazing everybody who plays original sin yes and is and are they going to do another season of it like is it worth me i don't think so i think what they're going to do i think they're actually going to go into another season of dexter man i feel so weird that i haven't watched this i loved dexter you'll love it you will you will love this show okay well watch watch it for next week all right you will you will you will love it if you're a dexter person i'm not here next week Well, whatever.
Starting point is 01:44:54 For your next time, you should watch that because I did not like... You're next Tuesday. That's where. Oh, easy, easy. Not the last season they did was I liked the ones in the woods. The one that they ended the whole series with, the way that it was terrible. One of the worst season finale is ever is so disappointing. It's not one of.
Starting point is 01:45:13 I think it is the worst season finale of all time. It was so bad. It was so bad that I was like, I remember even, I don't even finish the whole thing. It was terrible. I just watched the end of it to see what happened. It was terrible. But when I had COVID, it's like 2020 or whatever it was, I watched that whole thing.
Starting point is 01:45:31 And I liked it. I did too, and I did too. I liked this better. Wow. I like this better. I get to get on that. Okay. It reminds me of old school Dexter.
Starting point is 01:45:40 It reminds me of like the first like two seasons of Dexter. It's really good. Knock around guy. Between Landman and Lioness, which do you recommend? I am. I unfortunately was about to say I know that Mike has only seen Lioness and I know that I've only seen Landman.
Starting point is 01:45:58 So we're not a good duo for this. Well, again, Rox, sorry? Would you say Roxy that, I mean, because they're two different shows, it's not like they're in the same kind of ballpark and like mine is spy action. Yeah, but it's impossible to recommend things over something else if you haven't seen it because you never know.
Starting point is 01:46:19 And I like all different genres. I hear Lioness is amazing and it's high up on my list of things to watch. But I will tell you, Landman is not usually up my alley, that kind of show. I was blown away. It's maybe his best show that I've seen. Like, it is so good. It's so funny. People tell me that like, Mike, it's not your type of show, but you will love Landman.
Starting point is 01:46:40 It's not my type of show. Because why would I watch an oil rig show? But it's so good. Yeah. I'm just going off of if I see the two, on paper, you know, Commission possible James on Lioness is my thing.
Starting point is 01:46:54 So, but Lioness, Rox, you've got to watch it. I know. You got to watch it. It's so good. Lioness, yeah. Which is a one that, um, that, uh, Roka. Oh, he loves both of them, doesn't he? I think he loves lioness too.
Starting point is 01:47:07 Like, to me, lioness is the kind of show that I would kill to be on. Like, just kill as an accurate. White Lotus is the kind of show I would kill to be on. I would crush on White Lotus. I've been thinking about that recently. Anyway. Let's move on to the next one.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Hold on a second. I'm looking. I'm looking. And I think I have it. Landman's Billy Bob Thornton, right, Rocks? Yeah. I hear it's awesome. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:47:35 I love this. Just go pal. Sorry, go pal. I don't usually watch horror, but I'm realizing the last few weeks that I've seen Nosferatu, Strange Darling, and Companion.
Starting point is 01:47:47 and I didn't have a problem because that's you like the kind of stuff that I like I like well-written intellectual type of things too and I don't like the I don't like the slasher films and the lazy do you like Jordan feel yeah I like well I liked I liked I liked I liked his first two I didn't like the last one too much no it's fine um but I like I like what I like but even with no I like that presentation way better than I like like like slasher films and just stupid tropeer fire like that kind of stuff you don't like Well, I haven't seen. I can't speak on it.
Starting point is 01:48:19 You're like elevated horror. Yeah. Yeah, is that what it's called? Yeah. It's just like a pretentious term that some people don't like, but that is what it is. You're like elevated horror. 100%. Mirjam, support for all of you.
Starting point is 01:48:31 Thank you. Thank you. Albert. Schultz is very much not Jewish. Santino is the man. I did look it up. This might be not the most peacey thing to say, but he looks very Italian, but he always talks about Jewish stuff, but apparently his best friend is.
Starting point is 01:48:46 Shultz, the guy with the slick back hair and the mustache. Mustache. Yeah. That's all right, I'll, I'll show this. So Santina, I think I've shown this clip before, Roxie. I don't know, but this is on the channel. This is, have you seen this clip? I don't know what it is yet.
Starting point is 01:48:59 Is this Santino? Is this him talking about you? Yeah, this is like, no, no. And you go, taking your fucking tickets. Because you would give those, remember when you should get drink tickets all the time? Yeah, you're taking your drink tickets. You would just take my drink tickets to get wasted. And I'd never get paid.
Starting point is 01:49:13 I never, ever, ever, ever. It's supposed to be five or 10 bucks. And I never got paid. But I killed in that room for the first time when I ever, like, really, like, really did it. Yeah. And then what it was the one? You know who was there. This guy who used to come around the store, doesn't come around anymore.
Starting point is 01:49:28 Christian Harloff. Do you remember him? I love Christian. Yeah. He had said something. Christian. Christian. He was a regular at the store at the time and was- Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:34 I love Christian Harlow. He was going all the time. He was killing. Yeah. And he came up to me and he was like, in so many words. He was like, yeah, man, you're, you're going to be better than this place pretty soon. And I was like, oh. thanks man and I had just done so well that I was kind of riding on this high
Starting point is 01:49:49 and he getting his respect was huge he was a regular at the store that was a big deal yeah for back then people know like when a regular was like yeah you're pretty funny you were like also when when Chris DeLea and I saw you perform and we said to you it didn't matter because I knew I got it off of the wrong bit there was the it didn't matter because I really knew I was funny as he said um so where why did that happen okay anyway so that but also one my favorite parts about that bit is that Bobby Lee also loves you, who is like unreal. Bobby Lee was one of my
Starting point is 01:50:19 was one of the first people I knew when I got there. Like he was, yeah, he and I used to hang out in the store. His comedy cracks me up. I, your friend Santino is on like shows that I love. Yeah, he's a really good actor. He's a really great actor. Yeah, he's always been good.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Zach mine talks movies. I'm watching the beginning and dying. That was pretty funny. Nick, knock around. Are you like feeling okay, Christian? I'm good. Stop rubbing it and maybe put ice on it. I just want, I want to see every show now,
Starting point is 01:50:51 some random accident happened to you. Knock around guy. I hope they make Bond a super spy again with fun gadgets and over the top villains. Gritty Bond just feels like M.I.R. The spy movies. Bond can be campy and work. It depends on how they do it.
Starting point is 01:51:03 I mean, you can, man. You might run into Kingsman territory, though. Mike Joyce, Mike has been freezing in the best positions today. It's been pretty great. Go pal. But now it hasn't been happening. What's going on? Don't jinx it.
Starting point is 01:51:15 Also, those unfortunately named corals from the Caribbean that's showing up a lot in the Bond books, which they say like is normal. I mean, the Bond Books is very dated. So as Mike said, it's going to be very hard. They are.
Starting point is 01:51:27 Yeah. Sean McCabe. Mike Joyce is my bearded buddy. Mike Joyce and Sean McCabe. Good. Orders of the show in general. I'm so glad to have them on here. And old man, Mike coming in hot.
Starting point is 01:51:37 Nice Mike snafu. Has it feel you, smart ace. Thanks, Mike. Mirjam. Did you watch The Love is Blind Reunion, Roxy? Thank God for you, Mirjam. I can't believe I didn't put that on my list. Oh, no. Yes, I did watch the live reunion. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:54 This was a lackluster season with an interesting reunion. Thank you for that. Yes, Mikey. But so Shannon's out of town, so I haven't watched it because she wants to watch it. But of course, all over social media is going, that one girl that turned down the guy on the altar because of his beliefs on certain things. that got a certain group mad they were because you couldn't understand that she's like why would she turn him down Albert Gloacki a Roxy TV based podcast
Starting point is 01:52:23 would be essential viewing Woo, thanks Albert Sure Torino Roxy Mayfair witches stars Alexander Dodario yeah she she found that she looked up at it And then we interviewed her together right Christian Yes we did
Starting point is 01:52:39 She was good She was her and Tyler Hecklin. Yeah, he was great. I love him. Yeah, he's great. Christian, have you been to KeySpan at Coney Island? I haven't. I saw White stripes there back when, and Jack White came out for the encore and said,
Starting point is 01:52:52 hey, you didn't start chilling, so you saw me and left for five more minutes. It's hilarious. No, I didn't, I haven't been there, but I hear it. That's a wild story. Yes, it is wild, wild, wild, wild, wild, indeed. Wild, wild, wild, wild west. Wild, wild, wild, wild west. PLD.
Starting point is 01:53:08 Outlaw, opposition organization. Real nice. Oh, oh, oh, oh, are you the president of OOOO? Ian Davis. Mike and Roxy, I love this team up. It is tragic how bad Mike's internet is, but it is absolutely hilarious. Roxy, what kind of movies are you trying to be cast in? What's your dream role? So cute. Thank you so much for the question. I'm really into horror recently. I would say horror and comedy is we, I mentioned White Lotus. I love television. I have yet to be on a TV show. And I have found myself in this kind of like indie movie circuit, which I'm loving. But it would be so. sick to do something that was in TV because you guys know my dream is and you know it so well yeah yeah i did watch guy on um matlock by the way over the weekend i haven't seen him yet i'm waiting but i will he's great matth garret in america is steve rogers well mike um just so you know mike just so you know who we're doing the show with do you know that last week christian 10 toes down said that the is the best actor that he's has ever been on the show was my kellano was my kell
Starting point is 01:54:10 else. So now PLD Project says Bronson Pinchot as James Bond. What do you think? Pretty good one. Do you get rid of Roxy because she was giving me a compliment? You mother. That's it. No, Mike. No, Mike. That's not what happened.
Starting point is 01:54:26 Roxy. I just want to like remind everybody Sam LaVine. You said Sam Levine. You mother. I didn't say Sam. Sam Levine. Isn't Sean Connery in the Rock Old Man Bond? Un officially, yeah. That's an unofficial kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:54:44 It does. You hear him talk about me disavowed by MI6. So. All right. So go pal. Have you seen the Thomas Crown Fair recently? Not recently, but it's really good. Chef's kiss to that movie.
Starting point is 01:55:03 That him and Renee Russo, the sexual tension and chemistry between those two is phenomenal. Oh, that Thomas Crown. It's fantastic. PLD projects. Let it's now. Oh, yeah? It's. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:55:19 Go pal. Bonus points for Steve McQueen. I never saw the original. Lightning McQueen. Steve McQueen and I think Alan McGraw, I believe. Andrew Krivulko. Hey, Christian, will you do a spoiler review for Severance? I'd love to know what you think of the season and your theories.
Starting point is 01:55:35 No, but what I think I will do is when Roxy is on the show when she gets back, maybe we'll dedicate like a five minutes spoiler section to the show instead because i don't think it out yeah and clip it out or something oh i'm glad you brought that up roxy so i think starting in april i'm going to turn the christina ruff clips channel into a clips channel for this i'm going to pull back on interviews because another thing you guys just not watching them they're not watching them i can't do i can't do an interview jo man you never put them up the the clips it's not the clips the interviews roxy they don't watch the interviews i can't do it watch the joe interview no did like 5,000 views.
Starting point is 01:56:09 I can't. I can't put all that. I can't. And what I'm going to do is I'm going to clip out this. But will you put up the Joe clips? I will put up the clips. Yes. I'm going to put all those clips up that are sitting in there.
Starting point is 01:56:20 But I'm going to put the clips from this show. That's where that's going to live. It's going to be a clip show, a clip channel. PLD projects. Mikey is lovely too in his own way. I guess so. Depends on who you're talking to. I agree.
Starting point is 01:56:33 The real red five. Mike, what Bond has the best cold opening? mine is World's Not Enough. Oh, that's a good one. World's Not Enough is funny. That's the longest pre-title sequence of any Bon film. It's almost like 20 minutes long.
Starting point is 01:56:49 I really like the Casino Royale one, black and white. Octopus, as a kind of a good place in my heart, because that's the first Bond film I saw in theaters. I've never seen a Bond girl in that one. I've never seen any Bond movie ever. When people say, I giggle. No, I see. saw golden eye like a few years ago for the first time it's my only bomb movie I've seen when
Starting point is 01:57:13 people say octopusy I go giggle every time what is octopussy wait we can't we can't get into that right now really because I only have you for you guys for a little bit left is it sex thing or no no no it's a woman it's a character yeah and her name is octopussy yes sarah friend good old fashion ethernet cable simple as Mike there you go get do that I can't pull it up because it'll pull out but I have an ethernet cable plugged in it's terrible sarah of friend no this thing is nerd content fatigue, just badly written made content fatigue. I agree.
Starting point is 01:57:44 I agree with that. All right. Let's see next one here, and this is SunZoo. Hey, again, seeing Batman's silhouette and creature commandos. I'm not sure that Richardson shouldn't play Batman. I don't think we need an Oscar caliber actor to play bats. Not saying Alan isn't. Just because they made him bigger. It's a cartoon.
Starting point is 01:58:00 That doesn't make him. Yeah. Yeah. I think that Alan Richardson is a star. I would love to see him play as Al-Sup, I've seen him play superheroes in the house. I'll tell you what they need to do. They needed to be as meta as possible and make him Aquaman. Yeah, I was thinking that too.
Starting point is 01:58:17 He was the original Aquaman in Smallville. Yeah, that would bring back and just have so much goodwill to it. The fact that people love Richardson and the fact that, yeah, that's it. I'm loving Richard right now. Yeah, I think Mike's thinking Sarah Ramirez. Yeah, so they're non-binary and they are on the new sex and the city. show doing a great job they like have a podcast on the show is cool yeah Matthew Garrett loves coming in here just like to try to stir shit up uh how come on any you're talking about how america
Starting point is 01:58:48 rejected the wokeism in totality we rejected an election and culture in hollywood is that was that a topic today did that where where was that come none of your time about rejected it's like total is like every yeah but you guys are maybe not going to like this but i i the one thing i'll say is i think we should eliminate woke as a word i think people don't understand what woke is. I just wanted to go away. Anytime I hear it from anybody, any side, I'm just like, uh,
Starting point is 01:59:13 Matthew is shocking to me. I feel like he watches the show every day, but he just proved he doesn't listen to the show. Because what I had said many times over, as I think, and I've said this so many different times, that the idea and when you want to represent everyone, it is idea that everyone should go,
Starting point is 01:59:30 should be behind. Everybody should be that. But like anything else, it can be exploited, it can also be abused. It can also be one of these things where people sometimes will say, hey, we don't want to get yelled at, so we're going to do this.
Starting point is 01:59:43 But there's times when it's right. There's times when it's like it's overused. I'm talking about anything in general can be that way. And we talk about that. Maybe it's a joke. Maybe it is. Maybe he was making a joke. No, he brings up shit like this all the time.
Starting point is 01:59:55 Oh, really? He just met, you don't listen to the show, dude. Listen to this fucking show. Well, it's also entertainment news show. So it's interesting. Yeah, but when it comes down to that type of thing, it's like you got to be. balanced on it because you can't you can go to somewhere you can go completely also the word
Starting point is 02:00:11 totality is funny there because obviously we are in a country divided at that right i can't stand when people just do shit to do shit but i but if there's a cause behind it i'm all for it anyway go pal roxy did you watch rain with atlake cane no one okay um back in the day no that was the cw show right i uh after i used to cover it when i was rain yeah yeah i don't know this uh Matthew. No, I think. I told you. Sorry, he's back again. Movies across the board.
Starting point is 02:00:40 But what did we come and see in droves, Top Gun and Twisters? Can't anyone he's going to go back to it? Wait, I'm so curious. Wait, what you said. But be honest, this is his rejection, all this. It's not superhero, or two of rejection. No, it's, look, is there a part sometimes when people are.
Starting point is 02:00:57 You know, it also did really well, Barbie? Right. You know, that's the point. It's like, now, Matt, what I will tell you is that, is it, again, are there times you're like, well, wait a You're doing that just to appease the masses, or you're doing that just because you don't want to get streamed out at Twitter, as I said before. Yes. There are sometimes that you're not wrong.
Starting point is 02:01:14 They're just like, they're like, oh, here we go. I don't want to be preached to. I don't want to have a message to it. The way you're making, it seems like every single thing, no matter what is it. And it's just not, it's not the case. Matthew, I just think. Go back. Go back.
Starting point is 02:01:29 With what? I want me to see his picture. Matthew, I just think, and this is honest. You guys have a couple. very cute I just think Matthew that certain words are used
Starting point is 02:01:40 and they trigger a response because it gets put out there and the meaning is not what they mean so as people see a black Captain America movie they think it's like oh Disney's gone woke
Starting point is 02:01:50 whereas Captain America has been Sam Wilson in the comics forever comics have been political forever it's not that suddenly these companies went woke go broke Mikey
Starting point is 02:02:00 it doesn't mean that and now go woke was last year this year it's DEI or D-I-E-E-Hiring and that's the trigger word that everything is D-E-I now and it's not. It's,
Starting point is 02:02:10 you have to look at what the word means. Everyone's annoying me. Everyone's annoying me. Everyone's annoying me. I just can't even believe, I agree with everything you're saying, Mike. But oh my God, like why?
Starting point is 02:02:21 Why does everybody want to fight? Like, it feels like people just come on to shows to be like, I want to start a fight with somebody. And it's like, go fight with your pillow. Fight with the wall. Fight with anybody but the people
Starting point is 02:02:32 who are just trying to bring in joy. an entertainment into your lives. It's so odd. The behavior is so odd. Mr. Andee, fantastic. Look up the cast for Dexter Resurrection. Amazing. Yeah, the cast, it's like, isn't Uma Thurman in it? I think Uma Thurman's in the New Dexter. Resurrection. Not the one I'm watching, the next one after this. Whoa. Yeah. Nerds Engage, why Greenland all the other DC films and projects on credit that hasn't been earned with soups? I'm still very hopeful for us successful like it should be DC. Well, I mean, the credits that have been earned through past experiences. with James Gunn, right?
Starting point is 02:03:06 Because so that's why they gave them kind of an open, say, look, here's what you do. You go through this. You put your slate together and then let's keep going. But you also have to understand he's not greenlighting them. He's announcing stuff that they're working on, but he said he's like, until we have a screen ready to go, we're not like green lanterns, Supergirl,
Starting point is 02:03:25 Clayface, greenlit. Batman Braving the Bull, or Brave and the Bull, it's not been greenlit yet. They're just in development on it. So he's announcing because guess what? If he didn't announce, everyone would be screaming. What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? Yeah. So he's thrown a bone.
Starting point is 02:03:40 All right. Last one. Day nap. Not last one. Sorry, day napper. Peonies. Why don't you use the bathroom? Christian from Spider-Man 3. This is, there was a, in Spider-Man 3, he walks up. He goes, peonies. I go, peonies, want to just use the bathroom. People like that one.
Starting point is 02:03:53 Oh, I got. I don't even know you. That's right. Bronica Mars, season one, I think, is a near-perfect season of TV. What are some seasons you think are perfect? Sopranos, Season 2, Breaking Bad, mostly all of them. See, last season. Roxy, you got one?
Starting point is 02:04:13 Near perfect season? Oh, my God, there's so many. I'm panicked right now, though. Think of it and we'll answer before we leave. Every season of leftovers. Oh, yeah, that's a great show. You serious? People forget going to Infinity War that the Avengers weren't together.
Starting point is 02:04:30 They separated in Civil War, but the difference between then and now is they had characters, the audience love. That's what Mike's been saying. Just having had a chance to build up the tension there and where like who the Avengers are and all that stuff, you know? Assemble. Yeah, like we knew, yeah, they weren't together, but we knew who the Avengers were. Right. They're not together in Civil War. We know who they are though. We just don't know who the team is. Let's see. So they were talking about a different Santino, yes, whatever. I don't even know which Santino are you talking about. I never heard of any other Santino. So that's the only one I know. Jose Diaz, unfortunately,
Starting point is 02:05:03 I had to bet money, I would bet that this DC universe doesn't pop off. I wanted to succeed, but what do you guys think? I think it's going to pop off. I think Superman is going to do well, right? Yes. Yes. I think Superman does. I think it's all, if Superman does, then it's going to.
Starting point is 02:05:25 If not, then obviously, yeah. I think Superman does well. Could be. I'm just noticing. in the chat. Somebody said that you forgot one of theirs. I think Albert did. That we missed one of his.
Starting point is 02:05:43 Okay, off the look, because, like I said, Streamyard just decides they don't want to show it anymore. Mr. I, did you find it? Rox, Tim, if you find it, because I don't see it anywhere. Mr. I, crap, and shit. Hello, Roxy. Hello, Mike Christian. I watched Sam's amazing Spider-Man season number two reaction. I can't wait until she watches
Starting point is 02:06:00 No Way Home in a month or two. No, no way home is going to be soon. We're doing, we're going to do far from home, then no way home. So it'll be the, it'll be up on Tuesday. So. Yeah, Joey Pedrus, finally finished COBRACai, great landing. Yeah, they stuck the landing. It was great.
Starting point is 02:06:17 It's such a perfect finale. Yeah, go pal. It's Faye Dunaway and Thomas Crown. No, the original. Isn't it original Thomas Crown? It was Renee Russo. I thought it was Ellie McGraw, but I could be wrong. That was, that was the original.
Starting point is 02:06:31 And the remake, Thomas Crown is Pierce Brose. Renner Russo, yeah. Cupcake Bliss, Thomas Crown of here is awesome. Mike, you're awesome. There you go. Thank you. Take Bliss. And then knock around guy.
Starting point is 02:06:43 Alan Richon would be better as Sergeant Rock. Yeah, wouldn't be bad as Sergeant Rock. Did you read this? Albert said, Carr just broke down upstate, you guys and pretty much it are getting me through it. Much appreciated? No, I didn't read that. I found it.
Starting point is 02:06:57 That's what I'm sorry to hear that. That happened to you, Ralph. I'm glad that Ross is. that sucks. I'm glad that we can bring some laughs there. Yeah. And I think that that's it, guys. So we did it. Found it. Did we pop off? You guys did it. You have 83 right now. So Mike and
Starting point is 02:07:13 Steph will have to beat 83 on Thursday. And potentially, I don't know yet, but there's potential. I'm either going to do a show, not do a show tomorrow, depending on if I have a guest. My guest is either going to be Brett Sheridan if he decides he's going to show up. And if not, I might. What's not for the show? Let's been a couple of months. He's been busy.
Starting point is 02:07:33 He's been talking to him. He's been working. He's been texting me about how to make Monsa balls. Oh, perfect. It's been busy. So, anyway, what can they find you doing? What are you doing? You guys can find me everywhere at Roxy Stryor.
Starting point is 02:07:48 I have a big announcement coming up that I can't say now, but I am going out of town for a little bit, and I'll keep you guys posted on my social media on what I'm doing. Yeah. Okay. So that wasn't the one. You sent me the wrong one, Luke, But that's, that's right.
Starting point is 02:08:02 No, no, Luke sent me something. Mr. I, crap and shits, thought you were going in MCU order. So we were for one through three, phases one through three. But then as we were watching the Spider-Man movies, I was saying to Luke this morning. I'm like, I don't know if it really matters if we go out of order for the Spider-Man thing. Because Spider-Man, No-A-Home doesn't connect to anything inside the MCU that we'd be missing out on. So we're going to go to do all the Spider-Man movies,
Starting point is 02:08:30 do the spider verse movies and then back to Wanda Vision because it doesn't connect. There's nothing that connects. And then Matthew Garrett, can I be your quest and we can chat? I don't need to take it. I'm not taking a quest. No quest.
Starting point is 02:08:48 Come with me. No quest. There's no quest here. Mike, where can I find you? Oh, you can catch me at Twitter. Just random days going off on people and random days being fun. Roxy, where can they find you?
Starting point is 02:09:04 God damn it, you already asked me. You got hit with a microphone again. I remember, Roxie's turn. Doobo do, do, do, do, do. Oh, do. Doobo do. Boop to do. Doob to do.
Starting point is 02:09:17 Poop to do. Poom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I'm going to put these in your face. Oh, put them all over the place. Look at your ears. Got another. Oh, we do? Fuck, yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:30 Okay, here we go. It's from your quest, buddy. Okay. Matthew Garrett. Oh, let's go to the voting polls next time. Me and you, Matthew Garrett. See, he just wants to be, he's having a rational discussion. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 02:09:44 Love two, three, not fighting, just asking. That's fairs. That's more than fans. I feel like the way he phrased it wasn't just asking, but maybe for our conversation, he changed his mind to it being just asking. And if that's accurate, you're always allowed to be the best version of you a better version of you and Matthew you're cool my book man as long as you show
Starting point is 02:10:04 up as a kind one. Roxie, will you marry me? No. Oh, come on. Come on. You don't want to marry a chicken? I'm really grateful for Matthew in this moment because he was covering
Starting point is 02:10:15 big balls as balls. All right. Scott Cross, sitting outside, enjoying the weather. Having a cigar watching guys about as good as it gets. Love you guys. Thank you. Thanks, pal. Very nice. And then this is the last one. Crap and shits.
Starting point is 02:10:27 Derek Johnson support. No, Derek Johnson. Johnson here today. No way. I didn't know I was here. No, Chris, I'm still. Derek supports me. Oh, you know, I was going to be here either. 88 rocks. Eighty-eight is pretty damn good for you and Mike today. And you I will say this. This is going to be a good litmus test on Thursday
Starting point is 02:10:45 with no crystal in the chat. Right. To see what happens. It's true. I have a feeling step and I are going to blow hard and pop it up. Everything about that is. We're going ham. Everything about that was creepy. All right. So thank you for being. So hard.
Starting point is 02:11:00 Appreciate you being here. As always, thank you. Apple Podcast, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found. Thanks for checking us out. We will see you guys very, very soon. Peace out. Master!

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