The Kristian Harloff Show - Is Sam Raimi the right choice to direct SPIDERMAN 4 for the MCU?!

Episode Date: April 17, 2024

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How's it going, everybody? Welcome back. It's Wednesday for the big things. This is a lot of news today, man. We got Sam Ramey possibly directing Spider-Man 4. Is that a good choice? We'll talk about that. Transformers 1 is going to finally do a trailer in space. That's not a lie. They're going to release their trailer in space. We'll talk about how that's going to work. The Ministry of Ungentley Warfare. It's a movie I got a chance to see. The reviews are in. We'll discuss what people thought and what I thought. Douglas is done with Marvel. He says no one doesn't want to get killed off in the last movie. So that's some of the stuff. I've got a new Paw Kent. So we have a lot of things to talk about here today on the show.

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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. It's myself, Chris Carr, and Michael Kalanowski's back in the house. How's it going, Groucho Leroux? What's up? What's up? I said, what's going on? Everything's going on. I don't know. I feel like I hate seeing myself without the beard.

I got so used to. Why did you shave it off? My work is back. The thing I do, they're finally back because we had construction. I normally can't have to do a role at Universal Studios where I have to be cliche. Okay. And it was down for like seven weeks and I grew up beard. You don't like to say what that role is on the air?

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No, we know. So, well, it's good to have you back because we had a good show last week. Actually, maybe it's not good to have you back. We had a good show last week. So you got a lot to live up to. You got a lot to live up to. Anyway, but there's a lot of news, a lot of stuff. And as I was talking off here, you guys may or may not know, taking the studio and we're kind of taking it down and we're moving to a new one in New York.

We'll still be doing shows with everybody. And Mike and Steph will be in the room together. Coy and Winston will be in the room together. And Brett and Roxy in the room together, and I'm going to build out a studio there. So we do have an Amazon wish list, and people said, hey, what did you make one of those? And I did.

So if you want to look at it, you take a look. Great. If not, we're going to build that thing out pretty soon. Brett and I were going to New York. So, all right, let's get into some of this stuff. Do you have some good, a lot of news that dropped. Stuff that I saw this morning as well, that's a lot to cover. So here is the first story.

Okay, so this is a rumor. Sam Ramey is rumored for Spider-Man Ford. Now, the community on page says, or X, whatever, says, no, this is not true. But I don't know when the community page started debunking sources when that was allowed to happen. The website says, this is not true. Their sources wrong. I say, how do you know that? So I don't know about that.

So we will take it with a grain of salt. But I don't know about the community page on X. Filmmaker Sam Ramey helped start the flood of comic book movies over the past two decades with the Toby McGuire led Spider-Man trilogy from 2002 to 2000. 2007. Ramey seemingly left Marvel behind until years later in 2022 when he tackled Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness for Kevin Feigey's Marvel Studios. The result was a smash hit for Disney. Recently in interviews, Ramey has indicated that no one from Marvel has gotten in touch with him regarding doing more, even as he's expressed interest in returning to the fold and has acknowledged the online rumor mill about such a possibility.

Today, World of Real reports that while officially Sony still doesn't have a director attached for the fourth Spider-Man film, Their sources indicate Ramey is now in contention to direct it. They say no formal offer has been given to him, but there have been talks. Scheduling will play a part as he's also set to direct, send help, but that one could be delayed for this. Other prior frontrunners like Justin Lynn, Drew Goddard, are seemingly out of the running, having just signed up for other projects. Tom Holland and Zendaya are likely to return in their respective roles on screen. There is no word on a release date as of yet.

So there were some rumors about the release date Is that this thing was potentially going to come out in 2025 Which is insane Because if you look at the release schedule itself There's like an untitled Marvel slash Sony project For like June They're gonna have to shoot this movie They said from whatever reporter was the other day

Said that they're aiming to start shooting this in like September You're gonna want have six months to get a movie into the theater No chance unless they push it to December So let's say that this rumor is true. Sam Ramey directing Spider-Man 4, what say you? I'd be in. I'd be in. He created some of the best Spider-Man movies we've ever seen.

On Two of the Casuals, we actually have been revisiting the Spider-Man franchise, and Spider-Man 2 is that kind of golden standard still for so many people. It not only kind of blends, like, horror aspects because it's Ramey, right? So you have this kind of monster creation in Otto. You have the Jekyll and Hyde thing in the first. one and the third one we don't really talk about. But I think it'd be fun. It'd be nice to get some fresh blood in there.

I'd like to see what Sam does. I didn't love every aspect of what he did with Dr. Strange, but I loved when he had those moments that were so quintessentially him and his directorial style. So I think it could be cool, especially with Peter going back to being boots on the ground, going back to being a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man, dealing with all of that, working at the bugle. If they do that, because there's a whole back and forth with Sony and Marvel.

as Sony wants to do multiverse stuff again, and Marvel wants to this time do boots on the ground, street-level Spider-Man, which is the way to go, your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man. Play with the Parker luck. He has such a messed up life, and that's ripe for content.

I know. I want to see a New York Spider-Man just doing his thing, solving crime. But Mike, let's start with the Ramey thing. Where do you go with this? Well, for a second, when you guys were sitting there talking, in my head, I was like, because there's so much Spider-Man,

I was like, oh, he's going to finally do the McGuire four that they wanted to do. I was like, oh, no, wait, this is Holland. I'm going to say no. Nah. McGuire, Holland's got to have his own thing. Ramey's so in the McGuire.

He's just, it's just one and two, I still think, are fantastic. I just really think they're really great movies. And I, I'm, nah,

I'll say no. Not for you. No, I just, especially if you're going to do grounded stuff, Ramey's got that vibe. He's got his thing. A little bit more fantastical.

Yeah. I'm also not on board with the Ramey pick on. And I also, when they, when they rumored him to do the Avengers movie, I think it's a bad, choice also because if you're are you big Sam Ramey fan? I am.

See that but it's always the same thing. Because I'm not a big horror person but I like his super stylized stuff like Evil Dead is so fun. Right it is. There's no no argument and what he does very well is if you are Sam Ramey fan he always pleases his audience. Like it's like you know sometimes if you're a fan of a director you're like I don't know about that one. You know it didn't work.

It's very rare for him. And I always use this example one I took a buddy of mine who's a big Ramey head and I took him to see Dr. Strange, the one that Ramey did. And I didn't love it. I thought it was more of a Ramey movie than it was a Marvel movie. But my friend was Ramey Head and he was like, oh, that was amazing. It was so awesome because it did exactly what he wanted to do. Now, if you are a Ramey Head, you are super excited for this potential choice because

he's going to bring that flair that one and two had. I like the Tom Holland movies better than I like the Ramey movies. Really? Yeah, because I... It's interesting. As far as Spider-Man movies go, because it's the same type of reason. I do like one and two very much of those movies, but they're very ramey, heavy movies. They're ramy movies.

They're ramy movies. They're not Spider-Man movies, in my opinion. He takes kind of liberties on certain things. And I re-watch them when we did the re-watch for Spider-Man, and I still, there's a lot of cheesy elements because of the time. But they're really good movies. But I don't, I would much rather, what you said, Mike, I would much rather what I would much rather, what I still think Sony,

which is now it's just a joke when you say this completely drop the ball because they do it all the time when it comes to the Spider-Man movies when No Way Home was being developed

and they knew that they got Toby McGuire and Andrew Garfield back. First thing that they should have said was okay, here's the deal. We want to do this. You will bring them back. You guys will have them in this movie

but start firing into production either a third Garfield movie. or a fourth Toby movie and let that be one of the movies. And they might have some kind of deal with Marvel that Marvel's, you're not allowed to do that, I don't know. Yeah. But if they,

if he weren't to put out Craven, the shoe hunter and, you know, the most dangerous game. Yes. Morbius and Madame Webb. Like, it's stupid. And so those, that should have happened. But I would love to see Ramey re-team with Toby McGuire.

I'd be in for. That I'm 100% down for. That would be great to watch that. And then Sony gets their multiverse, Spider-Man movie. That's the best of both worlds. I don't think Ramey fits in the MCU. I just don't. I think he just makes Ramey movies.

I think he made a lot of money for sure. But I still think it was part of the, he's part of the phase four that it's just like, it's just like what made Star Wars go wrong. You get a movie. You get a movie. You get a movie. With that comparison, though,

that's one of the things I like, though, when Marvel and Star Wars do this of, hey sure you exist in this universe but you are not bound to a genre like say what you love about these movies I would like you to make a big swing and if it misses great but I like the idea of taking chances it's one of the things I think that worked so well with Mando of okay you've got this kind of Ronin story you have the you know the man with no name story that's really cool to take this western kind of approach that Carasawa oh I like the genre thing but they've been doing that way before four they were sure yeah but I liked that about Ramey of yeah make this kind of

a messed up horror movie. I understand if it's not everyone's cup of tea, though. I totally hear that. I don't mind tone shifts because they did that again with whether it was, Ant Man was the crime thriller. You had the spy thriller with Winter Soldier. I like that. I like that a lot.

My problem is when they started to kind of go away from that. And I always bring up this example and people sick the death of it. But it was when we went to see Love and Thunder. And I'm sitting there with Winston and they interviewed Figey. and they go, exactly what you just said, we had a horror thriller, a horror with Sam Ramey, we had this, with the Rousseau's,

we had this kind of genre, what's this? And he goes, oh, this is just a Tyca movie. And I went, oh, no, oh, no. It's a movie and a genre. That's not a genre. I mean, it is, but it's not a genre that's going to work well.

Genre change is fine, but you got to tell the story that you're telling in order to be so invested. Mike, you were going to say, you just basically said it. Like, I think genre works, like Winter Sol's, They're saying was it brave new world or new world order for cat four?

What is it now? They changed it new world no I think it's brave new world world I think it's what new world order used to be new world order but then I don't know what it is Anyway, but they're saying that this is in the vein of winter soldier like a political thing so I think that works but like That's great like shang chi worked because it was this Eastern Western martial arts film but it was still in the Wheelhouse yeah we're were some multiverse of madness that's kind of like Oh, this is a Ramey film. Yeah. This isn't in the Marvel film with a little bit of horror thrown in.

This isn't a Marvel horror film. Right. As opposed to like, Weirwolf by Night, which felt very much in the MCU, but Guccino did that horror vibe. Yes. And it felt like it fits in there instead of like,

what is going on? Totally agree. Yeah. That special, I still like lose my mind over it. I just watched it again. So good. You see the color version?

Yes. Not as good. It's not. I thought it would be better. Yeah. But it's like, no, black and white is bad.

Yeah, Because it's based off that old school kind of 50s and it's perfect. That movies, I love that. I loved it. And I remember seeing the trailer at whatever it was. I'm like, why are they doing this? I mean, what? And I loved.

I loved that. It's a great example because it does fit into the tone and tell the actual story itself. Yeah. Because with Dr. Strange, another thing, it's like they, the writers didn't even see any of the dailies or didn't see anything from Wanda Vision. They didn't read any of the scripts from Wanda Vision. Like now we're making kind of our own thing. It's like, what are you talking about?

This is a continued universe. You have to pay attention to that stuff. Like, well, we didn't read any of that stuff. Why? Because you could tell. Wanda is completely different. And it just doesn't, it doesn't fit. And that was the other thing.

I remember when they interviewed Figey, do you have to watch Wanda Vision in order to know what's going on here? No. What are you talking about? She got kids running around. You're like, who are those kids? Yeah.

So I was like, yeah, that you have to watch it. And the writers should have watched it as well. But as far as Ramey doing this movie I really would like to see him do something If he's gonna do superheroes Something like Darkman again which is fantastic Something in his lane where it doesn't have to connect to these stories I don't think the MCU's a good fit for him

I just I just don't I definitely don't want to see him doing the Avengers movie I think that's it that's yeah as a fan no He keeps getting mentioned for that And I'm like no I would Ryan Cougar I think would be fantastic Doing that I'd love to see him do the Avengers movie And he's another one that is an example of someone who I think did his own thing with Black Panther

when he came in but stayed into hey here's our premise this is what we have this is the story we want to tell but we want your tone what's your pitch like that's the kind of stuff I think it works Ramey's earned the right to say I don't want to do that I'm going to do my movie

but I just that's why I don't think he's the right fit so but the Star Wars thing like that's those first three movies hey JJ you want to start us off cool okay well should we come up with a whole pitch for the trilogy nah what are you going to do in the first one okay next guy we'll take it and run with it next guy goes

I don't like that I'm going to do something else and then you get a guy in Colin Travaro who says oh wait I don't know love all those choices but I'm going to take everything that you guys did and I'm going to actually play off that okay Kylo says Luke says that to Kylo so he'll kind of haunt him in his thing okay that makes sense all right so I'm going to play off of everything you guys set up

and then they fire him And then they bring in JJ who was, no, no, no. I don't like anything that Ryan did. I'm going to do my own thing now. And my favorite is when you get people going, no, no, JJ has said he loves what Ryan did. No, he doesn't. No, he doesn't. Anyway, thank you for allowing me to ran.

It's a mystery box. It's a mystery box. So what do you guys think as far as Ramey goes? If he does, because I see the same thing every time we talk about Ramey, which, as I mentioned, he deserves the respect. He's a freaking legend. But I see the same thing. I feel like the majority of people who say this would be great if Ramey did. It's amazing.

Are Ramey heads? Are you a Ramey head and do you want to see him directed? Or are you not a Ramey head and still want to see him directed? That's what I'm very curious about. Put your comments in there. Let's get at it. All right. So before we move on, I want to get to two of our wonderful sponsors, both Rocket, Money and Fume.

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We get James Gunn, the Superman cast. It's Jonathan Kent. I actually think I saw you tweet out about this, Mike. Veteran character actor Pruitt Taylor Vince has been cast as Clark Kent, Superman's adopted father. Jonathan Kent in James Gunn's currently filming Superman movie at Warner Brothers, according to the rap. Jonathan and his wife Martha find the superhero when he first arrived on Earth as an infant in a Kryptonian spaceship in the field of Kansas. The pair raised him in the town of Smallville serving as a moral compass for the young man growing up. Clark's father is often killed off.

at some point in the narrative. Numerous actors have portrayed the role over the years from Glenn Ford in 1978, Superman, Kevin Costner, in 2013's Man of Steel, Eddie Jones and Lois and Clark, The New Adventures of Superman, and John Schneider in Smallville. Vince has been around on film and television for decades with roles in films like JFK, Mississippi Burning, natural-born killers, Jacobs Ladder, The Cell, Identity, Constantine, Monster, Drive Angry, Birdbox, and the series like Murder 1. The list goes on and on and on.

He joins a cast that includes David N. Corencewit, Rachel Brosnahan, Nicholas Holt, and more. So the filming is slated to continue through late summer ahead of a July 2025 release date. And that's my point is what we were just talking about before. This movie has already started filming. Yeah. And we'll be out in July. Yeah. So that release date for Spider-Man.

If it does come out at all, if for Spider-Man would be probably the end of the year next year. Okay. Casting on this one, because you did tweet out about this, right? I think you did. Probably. I tweet so much nonsense. You really do. So what did you think about this?

He's like a character character character that I'm like, I know I've seen him. And I go through my MDB and I'm like, I don't know where it was. So I think it was identity. That movie with John Cusack way back. I think that's where I was like he has got a really good part in that. It was like a psycho or serial killer or something. He plays a lot of those. Yeah.

Yeah. And I was just like, you know what? Someone made a great point because he's not traditionally what Jonathan Kent looks like in the comics. But I was like he looks like a Kansas farmer from today. He does. That's exactly what it looks like. Yeah. So I'm like, he's great.

I mean, hey, I love character actors. Like those character actors that have been working for 20, 30 years with a resume that's long as my arm, you know. Good for him. Yeah. So it's in good hands. Absolutely. You love to see a journeyman actor really get a great role like this.

And that's something I think that's been lacking in DC and Marvel both, is we get all these huge name people where it's, I don't need this to be Russell Crow. I don't need this to be Michael Douglas. They're great. They're wonderful actors. But I love when we have somebody who's been working diligently for years. get a movie like this that's going to fill their like pockets and also get them more screen time

that they deserve he's an emmy award winner yeah i wouldn't even know yeah i wouldn't even know that but like you make a great point because a lot of times with these people are saying you know that you surround your lesser known actor with the big names people want to kurt russell and i'm like that'd be great yeah or jorrell or joll or paq hand oh i'm like that'd be great but then i'm like then you're watching the scene going that's kurt russell is jurel that's kurt russell is oh coquette sorry uh so but it's just another actor that can lose himself in the role and you're complete. I love the fact that our, you know, Paul Kent and Clark Kent right now are unknowns to me in the sense that I don't know every single day what they look

like. I have no expectations going in of what they're going to bring to the role. So it's exciting. You know, and I hope mock Kent is equally a working actress, but an unknown to everyone and, you know, I say unknown, but that's such a bad, it's such a bad thing, unknown actor. Because he's not an unknown actor. He's that, that guy. It's like that documentary, though, with like the opposite and everything where you just go, oh, that guy. Yeah, I know you from that. Yeah. I love when that happens.

Yeah. I think you guys are both on the money because I think that this is one of those things, you and I talk about all the time, sometimes when you look at a character and it's someone like a Kevin Costner and go, oh, it's Kevin Costner. Yeah. Yeah. He's great. He's great in this world. He's great. But it's Kevin Costner.

James Gunn, first of all, one of his major strengths we've all talked about is casting. Absolutely. Very good at casting and music. There's like two big strengths for him. And I think this is the right play because you are already getting, people are going to come in. to see the movie already. It's Superman. It sells itself.

It sells itself and guess what you also do? You keep down your budget. Yeah, sure. You get a good actor and you keep down your budget. Because he's not going to cost that much. You get someone like Kurt Russell, it's going to cost you a lot more to do

and you don't need it because the role is there with Pod Kent. We know it. We know what the role entails and it's going, and Candace is clearly James Gunn thinks he's capable of. We've seen the stuff that he's doing. It's a great move.

It's interesting because, Because I love Eddie Jones and Kay Callan. They were Lois and Clark. And I remember them. Like, I didn't know who they were at the time. But to me, I still can remember the scenes with them. Whereas when I'm watching Kevin Costas, Kevin Costner is Paul Kent. He's great.

Some of the best scenes in that movie, I made a Steeler with him. But it's the big name. And you probably spent a handful of money getting Kevin Costor. Yeah. And for the new generation, this is going to be their Paul Kent. He will have the effect that Glenn Ford had on. Evan that Loves Superman in the movie. He will have that effect.

And I hope he's going to be. be alive. I hope they keep him alive because we haven't seen that in the movies yet. You've always dealt with Pawkin dead. But Superman's too old by the time because Superman doesn't But he doesn't have to die. That's the thing. I mean, it's not like the Waynes

where it's integral to his character. Did his stories over the years have kept him alive? Some don't. I don't agree. I think that that was one of the things about it. I don't. Because I actually really do like me in a steal, but it is one of the things that I don't like about that movie his death is the way that he died because the whole when because he doesn't because i understood the point

of it i get that kevin cuss don't show him yet do you know i'm don't do it yet don't it's not time to reveal it the whole point of especially in the in the donner version when he has the heart attack it's that superman can't fix that yeah he can't he's like there's there's just some things mother nature's not going to let you i love him having a loving family dynamic though so he further distances himself from bruce and then you can't have have Paw Kent die later on of natural causes like normal human beings do. Right and he still can't fix it. And he still can't fix that. And then that opens up the opportunity for Bruce to have a very humane moment with a very unhuman person who seems much more relatable than him often.

It's also like he can learn what he needs to learn through other ways. And I think bringing up Batman eventually when they will be together, this is a man that will still have his family and he doesn't have his family. So that's a nice dynamic that we haven't seen. I think Gunn is maybe I hope he's looking forward to he's got five years planned out 10 years like to see things that we've never seen before we've never seen stuff before that it's true but you also got to be careful though sometimes especially with how

volatile the freaking of course it's just like you got to be careful on how you're going to change lore it's like is the lore so dramatic of a change that it's going to affect well that's not how it usually works and because that's what Snyder did you know Snyder did that and not a lot

of people really had a problem with it some people did but it wasn't like one of those things that like made or break the movie, you know, it didn't. So I'm for it because the story, if it's the story that he's telling me, the movie is based off of the comic The Man of Tomorrow, is that what the... He's using a lot of...

Superman for all seasons is in there. But it's also, he's a Superman that's newer, but he's not. Like, so Paul Kent's still alive. He doesn't meet that point where he's Clark and can't say everyone. He's Superman. Unless, it could be flashbacks, who knows. But I have a feeling he's going to keep him alive. And they're just going to be his

parents. Okay. What say you guys? You like this casting? Do you think this is, it should have been someone that was a little bit more famous or it's like, it seems so far, the reaction of this announcement has been getting a lot of love. It seems like it. So what do you guys think? Put your comments in there. Tell us, is this the way to go? All right. Next one. Okay, the end, Gently, Warfare Reviews are in. This is a movie that I had a chance to see the night. My out of the theater reaction is up. The reviews are in for Guy Ritchie's new film, The Ministry of Ungenerally Warfare,

and so far, the reaction seems fairly good. Again, all these reports have been from Dark Horizon, by the way. Henry Cavill, Henry Golding, Alan Richardson, Isaac Gonzalez, Carrie Elwoods, and more are in the true story tale, which covers the UK Prime Minister, Winston Churchill's and James Bond author, Ian Fleming's

Secret World War II Combat Organization. The clandestine squads, unconventional and ungentleming fighting techniques against the Nazis help change the course of the war and gave birth to the modern black ops unit. With 22 reviews counted so far, the film is clocking in at 77% on Rotten Tomatoes,

which is on par with the gentleman film at 75% and ahead of the man from uncle at 68%. On generally warfare is Richie playing to his strengths, but he's alert here bringing on a spaghetti western atmosphere to a World War II endeavor, making for an energetic and thrilling ride. That's more so where I stand with it. This movie was fun.

This movie was fun. I really thought you were going to be like, no! No! No, no, no. This movie was fun. I haven't seen it yet, but no! There's definitely, it starts off at like 300 miles an hour. Okay. And then it goes, and it just, like, slows a little bit.

Yeah. You're like, okay, okay. And then it speeds back up. It is definitely, it's like his version of Inglorious Bastards, for sure. The idea of it, that's why I read that last one, because the idea of it, that it is a true story. Yeah. And the idea that these declassified documents by Winston,

Churchill, I think they declassified him like 2016 or something. It's something like that. Maybe a little earlier, but not by much. But the idea that the government did not want them to do it, Churchill had to go basically around people's backs

in order to put these rag tag this rag tag crew together going on this freaking slaughter mission, trying to take down these U-boats. It's fascinating. But the done in the Guy Ritchie style, because they could have easily made this kind of like a Spielberg,

World War II, you know, saving private Ryan type thing. If they wanted to, they could have taken in that really serious World War II, but they have the fun with it. That's what worked for me. And it's like, it just, I walked out with a smile on my face. I thought Henry Cavill

and Issa Gonzalez were standout. She is fantastic. She's having a great year. Great year. She crushed it in three body problem. Yeah. She's so good. Did you, so is this one, something for you that you think you want to go check out? Hell yeah.

Explosions, needless explosions. Kill a Nazis, let's go. It's Guy Ritchie doing Inglary's bastards is what I thought when I saw. And I love this cast, too. I love Henry Golding, and I want him to be in more stuff that's successful. Because he's had a lot of movies

that are not great that you can tell he's trying so hard to do what he can with it. And I think he deserves a great run. He's honestly who I want to play James Bond. Love him. Henry Cavill is incredible always. Yeah, Henry Cavill. Henry Golding is good when he's in.

it, he doesn't get that much to do, I don't think. Oh, okay. But I think, disappointing. But he's good when he's in it. It's just like he's, I don't think they, Alex Petterfer has more to do, which, and he, interesting. Which normally, I thought he did really well too. Because he, that's, that's what Guy Ritchie has been doing.

Because I don't necessarily think Charlie Hunnam is a great actor, but he was fantastic in the gentleman. Yeah. He was fantastic in that film. And Guy Ritchie does that. He gets these kind of fun performances out of people, and he does that here. And Henry Cavill is just having the time of his life. Yeah.

He's having the time of his life. So I really enjoyed this movie. I had a lot of fun with it. This is, to me, I think it's right up your alley. Yeah. When I saw it, I was like, first of all, like, I knew the history of Fleming when I was doing the book. I knew, I discovered all this. Like, he was a war correspondent and then worked, you know, behind the scenes kind of as a spy type stuff.

And it was really cool. I love Cavill. I love Richon. Yeah. I love him. Yeah. I mean, he's, I've loved him for a while, like, as an actor. I think he's really good.

I like him as a person, so I like seeing him successful. But Alex Petterford, he was the one, like, it was maybe, now it's about 10, 15 years ago. He was really going to be the it guy. Yes. And I am number four. Behind the scenes and drama and stuff really kind of derailed him a little bit. But I always liked him. Yeah, and then I felt, I felt, I felt, who's, uh, Kingsman guy, young guy.

Oh, wow, well, Tarant Egerton. I figured he was the, He kind of placement took over Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were at the same look, and he took over and went. So I'm great seeing Petitford back kind of in these roles, because I think he's a very talented actor. I think just maybe it was Hollywood and fame, because they pushed him for the big, to be the next big thing. And it may be, you know, behind the scenes and whatnot.

But I like him as an actor. So to see him kind of back in these charactery roles and giving a shot and, yeah, man. Yeah, it's fun. And you also like it because what they, the rumor is, and you probably, this is probably in your book as well, too. the main character that Henry Cavill is playing is who apparently Fleming rumored the base James Bond off of yeah yeah so Christopher gosh why am I blacking on his name Sauron oh um Christopher Lee yeah is he's he's in Fleming's cousin and he based James Bond off of him oh for what well maybe part maybe maybe maybe there's a mixture of it to because this spy that Henry Cavill

car is the actual you can't remember but the actual, from what they're saying and what you see him do, and because Fleming was behind the scenes working with Churchill on it, the actual missions and the real stuff was based up this real spy. Very cool.

So, which was, which is very interesting. So, it's, I'm glad that it's getting the reviews that it is, 75, pretty good for this movie. I hope it does well. I think Guy Ritchie right now is on a tear. I think he's between the gentleman, between the covenant.

We did, he did five movies or four movies in five years. Did he? Yeah. And all of them but one were, that Operation Fortune

was kind of like, I thought, I said, it's so fun. But I was like, isn't that a Netflix movie? And they're like, no,

it was a theatrical. I was like, it was like, it was. Yeah. So that was the only one out of the covenant, not be a keeper covenant. Gentleman. Gentleman,

this and the fortune, and then there's one other in there. And he's, and then I'm sure he's not going to out. And then I'm sure he's got the TV show for a gentleman going out too. So he's having a hell of a run right now.

And this was, and I think that one of the, maybe that last movie, because until yesterday or two days ago, I didn't even know that movie existed, the one you just talked about it. I thought it was in Netflix. I didn't even know what it was. Who's in it? Josh Hartnett. Oh, right.

Statham and Josh Hartner, that's right. Hugh Grant. Yeah. There's a lot of people. Aubrey Plaza, that's the girl. So I was going to take away what I was going to say. I was going to say, maybe there weren't just enough big games in it, but I don't know, just kind of, that thing just came and went.

Yeah, it was weird. It wasn't marketed. And, yeah, I had the impression that was on a Netflix direct release. Same. Yeah, he's like, do you like it? I thought it was fun. Yeah. It's not incredible.

I thought it was fun. It's not. No, but it's incredible. It's just a movie to watch. It's a movie. Yeah, it's a movie to watch. It was fun. That's cool.

So I asked you guys, is this a movie you're going to see this weekend? What's the next one you're going to see in theaters? I think that's the thing I want to see. Make sure you put in the comments section. What is the next movie you're going to see in the theaters? Is it this? Is it Abigail? I'm going to see that actually tonight.

And you're not going to see that. Neither are you. But I'm going to see that. Poor film? Yeah. No. No. I'm going to see that tonight.

And then, I'm supposed to challenge. There's like, keep missing challenges. I'm going. I know. Well, you want to go. Don't you want to go with you? If I'm not out of town, I'm going. Okay.

I got a special screening, but it's like a fan thing. You could just get a buy a M. It's like a couple days before the release that I've already got a ticket for. I want to reach out. I'm going to see so. Let me know, man. if I get a plus one, I'll bring you so. Damn right.

Right. Yeah, I want to see. I want to see that one. that's going to be, that's a good, I'm wondering how many people are going to put that in the comments, because I think Fall Guy is going to do way better than people think it's going to do. I just hope the hype, because they're saying it's fantastic. Yeah. Summer, I mean, everyone says it seems like the movie comes out of cinema.

It's like, movie of the summer. Now I want to see it. Best Romantic Comedy of 2024. Well, now I want to see a live action, uh, Beavis movie with Ryan. Oh, God. Did you see that? No. Oh, no.

Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, I can watch it's awesome. Oh, my God. I almost like, it's awesome. I almost want to do, you know what I'll do is you want to do a quick reaction to it? Sure.

All right. I'll do a quick reaction to it. All right. So, Chris just watched. Yeah, Chris just watched that. And how funny was that scene? That was great. It was so good.

It was one of the best things they've done in probably 10, 15 years. Ryan Gosling of comedy is, it's really got underrated. He's so good at it. Yeah, it's well, I remember somebody, there was some silly tweet a little while ago. Ryan should do comedy. Yeah. Like, did you see? Now they have just seeing Barbie.

After seeing Barbie, Ryan should do comedy. It's like, what are you talking about? He's done comedy. Lars and a real girl. The nice guys? The nice guys. That scene with him in the bathroom with the gun. Yeah, crazy stupid love.

Nice guys. Yeah, so he's great at comedy. He's really good. And that was, that was hilarious. So I definitely want to see him do some more. I mean, I think that's what he's going to wind up. I think it's a mixture. I think it's a mixture.

I think it's what I keep hearing to. Yeah. So I'm excited to see it. Yeah. All right. What about you guys again? Put your comments in there and tell us exactly what movie you're looking forward to. All right.

move on. Okay, new report. This one's from Indie Wire. Martin Scraisez is in talks to direct Frank Sinatra's biopic with Leonardo DiCaprio starring. Jennifer Lawrence has been eyed to portray the legendary film star Eva Gardner, who is Sinatra's second wife. The Oscar-winning Altar is rumored to be once more developing a biopic based on the legendary crooner of projects Scorsese has been associated with before with longtime collaborator Leonardo DiCaprio and talks to portray old blue eyes himself, Variety reported the news. DiCaprio recently starred in Scorsese's Killers of the Flower Moon and also led other Scorsese-held biopics like the Wolfo Wall Street, Aviator, amongst others.

Variety noted that Frank Sinatra's daughter, Tina Sinatra, controls her father's estate and has not approved a film adaptation of his life story. However, Scorsese is already looking to cast both DiCaprio and fellow Academy Award winner, Jennifer Lawrence, in the film with Lawrence portraying Ava Gardner, who was Sinatra's second wife after Nancy Barbato. and DiCaprio co-starred in Don't Look Up. Variety reported, Sony is leading a bidding war for the project. Okay, so this is, I'd say, interesting casting, not be, not, it makes sense because they

work together all the time. Now he's like his new De Niro. Yeah. But he don't look like Sinatra. It's not where your brain goes to first. No. No. Definitely isn't.

And, I know, Wolf of Wall Street, if it isn't my favorite Scorsese movie, it's in the conversation. And I think DeCaprio was brilliant in that film. Out of everyone in that movie, his New York accent was the weakest. So I wonder if the, like, the, the, uh, the Italian, if he's going to really bring it out that kind of, you know, old school voice and this is going to sound authentic. I don't know. Um, but I have faith in DeCaprio. I got faith in Scraise and I think the avagardner choice also interesting with Jennifer Lawrence, but I also think that's what the pitch is for Scorsese to the daughter. I think it's like, look, we're going to do this with Leonardo,

we're going to do it with Jennifer Lawrence, we're going to bring respect to your dad's name, and we're going to make this thing special. And you go in with heavy hitters. So what do you think about this overall, this plan? I agree that's probably part of the pitch, because otherwise you have all the other stories about Sinatra, of being a womanizer and being,

oftentimes problematic at a time where people weren't called out for that kind of behavior. Mob ties. Exactly. And I'm sure pitching to his own estate, to his own children, you've got to find those ways of we're going to class it up. We have absolute tour-to-force actors here. We've got Academy caliber actors. So your story is in good hands. We're going to make your father look in the best light possible while still telling a story honestly. That would be my hope for what they're going to do. I just, again, I don't, I don't gravitate towards either of those actors for this role. But hey, I mean, once you put somebody in hair and makeup, once you put somebody in costume,

it can really change the game. So maybe these are going to be absolutely perfect people. I also have not, I can't even think about hearing Leonardo DiCaprio singing. Right. That's, I mean, that's kind of a major thing. Yeah. I need him to croon and I need to know if he can. Do you think that they do the thing that they've done many times?

So like, didn't they do this for Freddie Mercury? Like someone else sang it, right? Or they blend and stuff too. It's a lot of Adam Lambert. mixed with Ramee Malleck mixed with Freddie Mercury. They did it very different example. They did that on Eurovision too, of changing their vocals and mixing them with other singers. Right.

And that will, you do also get it to a scary thing, though, too. If they use AI, they could probably do a lot of stuff too. And if you're working with the estate, I don't know if you do that. I know. Unless the estate gets that money, which is a whole other can of worms. Where do you go with all this? I go to the source. I saw this news this morning.

and I directly called my best friend Nathan Bigel I've known this man for 30 years I used the once upon a time on Hollywood quote Less than a wife but more than a brother This guy to me he is a Frank Sinatra It's his life Old Hollywood He just came here for the weekend

We had to do all the old hot We had to eat it all a coyote Because of once by the time He loves this He is the guy and I go He goes it's awesome It's perfect So that's who I care about

He's not a movie He's not our film Twitter Our film tour is going to be all day Scourts You know Caprio with Sinatra, bullshit,

he doesn't have blue eyes, this and that. This can be what, it's going to be all the day. It's like, and he, Schroeschis said, it's going to be

Goodfellas meets the Aviator. Does that what he said? Like, so the aviator was, Howard Hughes is not a character like Sinatra in the sense that he's this bigger than life character in a fun way.

He's got his demon. You don't think jars of urine in a room or fun. Exactly. Like, so to see, to know who's going to be Dean Martin in the Rat Pack

and they're going to be going to all the Hollywood haunts and the famous places in Hollywood and old Hollywood. Like, it's going to be pretty. It's going to be insane. And everyone's going to want to come back to work with this and like come out. Like I'm excited. Like DeCaprio, look what they did with Cooper for Bernstein.

Like they're going to give him a tube. They're going to get, you know, thin his hair. They give the blue eyes. I think this is just. And the fact that they've wanted to do it for a while. This has been, I was talking to Nathan, he's like, yeah, they've been wanting to do the two of them for years. Yeah. And it just has never been able to get going.

Yeah. I'm excited about it because I want to, like, them working together. They put together magic on the screen, yeah, they really do right now. They work together really nicely, but again, it kind of goes back to that whole Paquette idea. Am I going to watch this and go,

oh my gosh, he is completely immersed, that is Sinatra, or am I going to go, hey, Leonardo DiCaprio is doing a pretty good job in this. Yeah, that's kind of my issue. I mean, this guy, my best friend, he makes me watch this Christmas special

that him and Dean do every year. Like, it's, but the stuff that they can do and just seeing, and we just watched once upon Tom Hollywood again, I know a different director, but it's just that the classic Hollywood, the glorified, and they'll probably get into the underbelly of it with him, the mob and stuff.

There was a great, I don't know, I remember who was in it. It was a mini series or something. Tom Wilkinson was one of the character's fathers in it, one of the Kennedys. He played a Kenny. It was a whole, with Kennedy and Sinatra, that whole big thing. And that was so he wanted to get in with them and the mob, and it's like, that era is fascinating. But maybe they'll do his whole kind of, you know, up into the end. I wonder if they mention anything.

It's such a godfather or anything. Yeah, that's insane. Like all that stuff is so juicy. That's a movie, that's a movie to me that it's three out, not four hours, but three hours long. I'm like, that works. That's okay. Yeah. I am and Jennifer Lawrence, I think, is really good.

I think the problem with happened with Jennifer Lawrence is what happens to any of these actors or actresses after they just, when they're the it person. Yeah. They're thrown into your face and you're like, all right. And I remember my wife going, oh, more Jennifer Lawrence movies. She's been like six movies this year. And it's like, and that's just the way humans are.

It's like, like look at Sidney right now. She's the one of everyone's pushing her right now. So now you have this Hollywood producer going, I don't get it with her. It's like, oh,

that's so stupid. It was heartbreaking with Jennifer Lawrence too because it was, oh, it's so good to see you back. Is it? Where she would have that in interviews of it. I felt like people were really sick of me, so I took a back seat for a while.

And I think that was a smart move by her. It was because then she didn't have the Hathaway situation. Another bullshit. shit thing that happened to an actress of she tries too hard she tries so hard in her interviews oh my gosh she puts in all this energy she gives musical theater kid energy yeah because she is one right i don't know what to tell you right so she is i've always liked anne hathaway but there was this thing going around for a while it was we had this kind of ongoing joke back in the day with one of our co-hosts were like why do you hate hathaway so much um but and it was like a thing that was going around i've always liked hannah

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Quantumania that he'd only come back for a fourth film in that series as long as he can die this time. It turns out that he wanted out of the MCU early. than that. Yeah, he actually wanted to be killed off in quantum mania in a great big ball of visual effects. Douglas played Hank Pim across the trio of Ant Man films and had a small cameo in Avengers Endgame. While he was major part of the first film, he was more on the sidelines in the sequel. In an interview on The View this week to promote his Apple TV historical drama series Franklin, he explained his request to be knocked off in the third film. He said, getting killed off actually was my request for the third one.

I said, I like to have a serious death with all these great special events. effects. There's got to be some fantastic way where I can shrink to an ant size and explode, whatever it is. I want to use all those effects, but that was on the last one. Now I don't think I'm going to show up for a fourth. Pim survived the events of Quantummania, but the future of the Ant Man franchise is unclear in the wake of quantum man. It was poor showing both critically and commercially. Yeah, I think we're done with Hank Pim. I don't think we're going to see him again. I love seeing him. That was actually one of my favorite experiences being in L.A. as I, well, I was in Atlanta, But while I was working at AMC, I went to the Ant Man set in Atlanta, which was great.

And I remember getting a chance to interview him and talk to him as he was on this. And watching, I clearly remember the scenes that I've watched. Every time I still go back and rewatch it, I remember being there to watch the actual scene of Hank Pim walking into Pym Industries. And, like, he was really kind of into it. And then the first two, I really liked the first Ant Man a lot. And the second one was fine. the third one is such a departure from those first two as we talked about crime

comedy comedy crime heist movies and that type of stuff and if they're going to do a fourth one if they're even going to approach it they've got to go back to that because going into the I like seeing new science fiction I like it but I knew walking out of it it was not going to go over very well with a lot of people I was like this was I like how weird it was and they study up in this whole different world and the ending is terrible

But I knew it's not what you gave people the first two movies. It's a totally third movie. So I don't think he's coming back. I think he's done. I don't think he cares about the paycheck. Obviously, he's like, what, 85 years old? What does he care? Also, he's going to get those tasty Marvel residuals.

Well, I mean, those are changing, but still. Yeah, oh, you're right, but still. Mike, do you think we're going to see him back or you think they can get him back? Do you think we're going to see an Ant Man four, rather? No. Yeah. Do you want to see an Ant-Man four? It's tough because I couldn't even give you a run of Ant-Man comics where I'm like,

that's a good run. That's a good villain. You cover the ground. He's a great supporting character in the bigger world. You think we'll see Paul Rudding. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. 100%.

Just not Michael Douglas. I don't think Michael Douglas' quote is kind of a non-story because he's just like, they got these big effects. They can make me small and then I die, explode. Like, blow me up. What is? Yeah, like, blow me up with the effects. I mean, I'll explode.

I think he's just, he's trying to give him a sound bit. He's just like, he's over it. Yeah. He's over it. And he's out there promoting Franklin. He's doing this type of stuff. And he's not. hard up for cash.

No. He's, he's fine what he's doing. And he's probably just, look, I did the Marvel thing. And look, Marvel is not in the spot

anymore. When they were getting guys like Michael Douglas, everybody wanted to be a part of it. Everybody, because they kept putting out hits and critically acclaimed things. And now it's like,

it's in this place that it's just like, oh yeah, they're fine now. I think a lot of people wanted to do the Glenn Close thing with Marvel, right? I'm going to do one movie, I'm going to be a supporting character,

and then I'm out. And she even talked about that of, oh, yeah, I want to do weird indie dramas and things, and that means I have to do one of these kinds of movies every decade or so just to help fund that. And I think that's what a lot of people wanted, because then you have, you know, the Lizzie Olsons, who are, I'm contractually obligated to be in so many of these movies now that I'm missing out on some of these really interesting, really character-driven pieces that

I'm bummed out about. Super thankful and lucky to be here, but I don't get to do other stuff. And I think that's what a lot of these A-listers wanted was the, oh, I want to go do that fun thing, and I want to treat like summer camp, and then I want to be done. I don't want to be like an Olympian and review this every four years. Right. Yeah. You get, look, you're going to get the Marvel Cash, doesn't matter how old it's successful. You get that Marvel Cash when their movies are doing really well the way that the Ant Man movies did

and everything too. And they're like, hey, what do you think? All right, I'll do another one. And this time we're going to Michelle Pfeiffer play your way. Fine. You know, but you got to do a third one too. You kill me in the third one? Maybe. Well, he wanted to die with great special effects. Those weren't there. Well, not for that one. Not for that one.

Yeah, but I mean, I don't, I don't think it's, I love Michael Douglas, my favorite actors of all time. I don't think it's a loss if he says, I'm not doing the fourth one. And you can always kind of say, what happened to Hank Pym? He died off screen. Some of the cool stuff I think in Marvel is when they've deaged him. That was awesome. Because I grew up with Michael Douglas at that age.

So to see that and how well it was done, I was like, that's really cool. The basic instinct, Black Rain type of stuff. Romancing the Stone. I see that and he's romantic and seeing the stone. I'm just like, this is awesome. It was pretty awesome. That was the one of the best aging ones that they've done so far. And then the Kurt Russell one in Guardians 2 was pretty good

They know that stuff Yeah The Downey one in Civil War wasn't great But yeah Yeah But I really liked what they did though It's just such a different Those phases man

They were so different with the way they would Combine it all like a really good TV show Where like and then you get the Spider-Man homecoming Homecoming? Homecoming? There was the second one right? Homecoming? Far from Home is the second one Far From Home is the second one And then how they combine that technology

that Jillon Hall was working on that he did that at that Civil War presentation thing. So, yeah, what were you going to say, Mike? I just was just, we were talking and they did that, was it the cinema con presentation recently, and I just don't have that when the, if I could come out to bring out an actor to talk about the movie, and you're just like, what do you talk, what's he going to do? And I was like, okay, he's got Mackey out there. He's got so-and-so out there. That'll be another movie soon.

And I hate that. I hate that I feel that way. But maybe it's because there's been so many. It's exactly what it is. I mean, Marvel and D.C. and everything. you know, I'm not in the hype train that the Deadpool is because to me it doesn't feel MCU

it just because we've seen two that are like these are not MCU films. But the thing I will say about you, I don't like to give you compliments but I'll give you one here. Here we go. What I will say is that if you go into Deadpool even though you're like, I'm not hyped about it and you turned out that you loved it, you'll say it. 100%.

That's how I was with Love and Thunder. Yes. I did. I went into that actively wanting to hate it. I don't know why. I'm not Love and Thunder. Ragnar Rock. I was like, no. Jokes. what? And I came out of there I was like, I'm putting my foot in my mouth because that was incredible and one of my favorite movies in the MCU.

11 Thunder is about to kick out. The first Deadpool was one of my favorite film-going experiences because of the audience. It was just incredible. Right. Now I watch it. It's like, that's funny. Of course the jokes are old but like that first one. So three can be that again. And then this time also, but Deadpool has the opportunity

to really get like a charge back into the MCU. I've just said this and I'll say this again. I just don't want this to be going in and it's hey we're going to make fun of every Fox movie we did for the 2000s when we were all in 2000s loving these even Ghost Rider were like yeah it was fun in the fantastic four two movies like oh yeah it was silver surfer was really cool and Johnny Storm was awesome at the thing and Daredevil Ben Affle like yeah like I loved all those but

if it's going to be just a crap fest of making fun of it throughout the entire movie like popping in each thing and making fun of the characters I think it'll be relevant don't think it's just going to be like I know but if it is that I'm going to be like I agree if it's if it's just cameos and jokes to do jokes I that's I can't stand. But I don't joke jokes to make fun of what came before. Right. It's saying how bad it was.

I'm like, no, it's got to have a purpose. It's got to have a purpose. So, yeah. All right, let's close out with this last one here. Transformers won, the trailer, which people were raving about at CinemaCon. It's going to launch its trailer in space. That's right. I read that right.

Paramount Pictures is set to debut the first trailer for its animated feature. Transformers won this Thursday, and it's going to do it with a unique launch in space. base. That's right. So the event begins at 6am with a live streamed countdown that captures the trailer's ascent to 125,000 feet above Earth. When it hits its peak, it will offer viewers a special introduction by the film star Chris Hemsworth and Brian Tyree Henry, who will voice Optimus Prime and Megatron. The stream will come live from the official Transformers movie social media accounts and Paramount's YouTube channel along with Hemdworth's own Instagram account. The film itself, dives into the origins of the Autobot and Decepticon rivalry on Cybertron, exploring the early friendship and eventual fallout of Prime and Megatron. Leading their voices are Scarlett Johansson, Keegan Michael Key, John Hamm, Lawrence Fishburn. The film is directed by Josh Cooley with a script penned by Andrew Bearer, Steve Desmond, and Gabrielle Ferrari. Lorenzo Di Bonaventura produces the animated prequel,

which could serve as the start of a potential trilogy. It's supposed to come out on September 12th. What are we thinking about putting this out in space? For why? I wish you could have just done your reaction that you just did. You were like your hands at the side and they're like, what? Yeah, is this why Paramount needs buyers? Why are we going to space?

I mean, I say this is somebody who loves all things space. I worked for Space Center, Houston back in Texas, and I loved it so much. I love geeking out about this stuff. I don't understand this kind of marketing strategy. Why does it have to be in space? My only thought is this. Sorry, that was a pitch that only dogs could hear.

So that's how confused I am. But if they were going to do a launch into space anyway, they were going to do these types of things, and they said, well, what if we attach the trailer and stuff to it? Right? And they do something like that. But like, because when this happens and they're like,

oh, there's a launch in space, yeah, and it's Transformers 1. And because we're talking about it now, and more people are aware of it, because I'll tell you what, I don't like, as we were just talking about it before, with the celebrity, you go,

well, there's Kevin Koster. All of these voices, unnecessary. All great. Unnecessary. Why in the world is Chris Hemsworth playing Optimus Prime?

Is the Optimus Prime? There's only one Optimus Prime. And you know who it is? It's Peter Kohn. Autobots, rollout. It's, I want to see that. You sound pretty good there, man. Oh, thanks, buddy.

I want to see that. That's what I want to. I don't want to see Hemsworth doing. I love Hemsworth. I don't want to see Kiga Michael Key as Bumblebee. I don't, Bumby shouldn't talk. Well,

he didn't talk in the 80s comics. In the 80s show? Yeah, he did. I thought Bumby couldn't talk. That's from the movie. I think you're foolish. No. In the comics he talked?

He talked. He talked in the animated show. He did. 100%. I don't know about that, man. It's something that you said about, okay, you can go check it out. You want to bet on it.

You won't pay me anyway. But D. Bonaventura has not. had a lock on this stuff on G.I. Joe. He's an interesting producer. I mean, you talk producers. You know, people don't like Kathleen. Kenny for whatever reasons.

He is one of those ones where this track record can't be denied because he's made billions of dollars to Transformers. But I was like, I think he needs to step off of G.I. Joe. He's on G.I. Joe. I'm excited for the G.I. Joe transformer together. But like, you know, Henry Golding, poor Henry Golding jumping into Snake Eyes. Just like, oh, you didn't, this movie, if you're directing a movie and Snake Guys doesn't talk and he's talking the whole movie, you're not the producer for that movie. You just not. Because you don't also care about the essence of it.

Yeah, you just don't. But so Hemsworth's Optimist. Like when I saw this transform, it was like, there's another live action already? I had no idea it was animated. It's animated. They showed pictures of this yet? They showed a trailer, I think, at CinemaCon.

To the press, to the public. To the press then. And then at CinemaCon last year, they showed just a few still image kind of things. Very, very, very like. Is it that CGI type-ish? It was so hard to make out. I pretty sure it's CGI,

but it's like a black kind of silhouette kind of thing that they showed us last. I don't. I'm like you, though. Well, and I obviously have a personal stake in this, and I think we've talked about this a little bit, too, of just, I don't understand when you have IP like this

that already can stand on its own two feet, why you bring in celebrity voice actors, because some of them are really great. Some people can do on camera and voiceover, and they do a phenomenal job being able to navigate between the two. Extra cost. Yeah, but like Ben Schwartz is one of those people.

He does amazing voiceover work. He's incredible on stage. He's wonderful on camera. You know who else is? is, oh my God, Clancy Brown. Clancy Brown, incredible. Wonderful voice. Best Lex Luthor, we had vocally.

I love him. But when you have characters like this and iconic voices that go with them to your point of Peter Collins, why wouldn't you get these amazing voice actors who can do that kind of sound-alike work, who can do that, who lower your cost too.

I mean, I want Optimus to sound away personally. Especially if they're doing the origin of like they were friends and they kind of, how it all went to crap. I'm of two minds of this. because Kevin Conroy is Batman to me

but I do not like when he appears his voice and other like the video game series I don't like that because he doesn't it's not animated so it's a completely

separate universe I don't but when he speaks I'm like that's part of the animated series universe yeah but Cullen but Cullen's made it I know that's what I'm saying

he is optimist and he's been it live action animated and there has really been no other voice it's yeah I mean they did it Colin is, it's different.

I know. They go weaving for Megatron in the first Transformers movie, which they didn't need to do. Unnecessary. It's like,

I think when you say it with, you already know who Prime is. You know who Megatron is. If you want to see Transformers, one, Chris Hemsor is not getting in the theater for that one. You know,

because of Prime. I don't like that they did with the voices, but the overall, the space thing. But what is your space? Like, what is it going to be out of rocket

and they're going to transmit it from, but you mean it's in space? Like, what does that mean to read the article again? No, But is there going to be a rocket? People are going to be sitting in the theater or the screen and watching the trailer in space?

Don't throw out your eclipse glasses. What does it mean? Look to the sky. What does it mean? It's going to be a giant satellite that's going to transmit a hologram into the sky and we look up and we see it? Like, I don't understand what in space means.

Isn't everything transmitted in space through the internet and the telecom? Doesn't that all go through satellites and beam to us? Yeah. That is what I'm confused. I know. So are we going to, is it on a space station? What is it?

I'm not sure. We guess we're going to find out. Tom Cruise will be out there with it. I believe. He's going to do the Mission Impossible Nine Trail. He'll be in space with it. Maybe. But he'll be up there.

He's like, he will be. He's been floating around in space for God knows how long anyway. The moon. And here it is. Mission Impossible 8. Go to the movies, everybody. We'll love you all. And then I would love it.

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