The Kristian Harloff Show - Is Star Wars Canon Too Messy at the Moment?

Episode Date: January 26, 2023

In 2012 Disney bought Lucasfilm and President Kathleen Kennedy announced that all of the comics, games, books, shows and movies would be one continuous thread. Since then, the canon timeline has been a bit all over the place. Will this continue to be the case? Should Lucasfilm do away with the notion that everything is indeed canon? The Bad Batch Season 2 episode 5 is out and the crew gives our spoiler heavy thoughts on the latest Star Wars episode. The Acolyte star Amandala Stenberg talks The Acolyte and what the process was like shooting. Speaking of shooting, The Skelton Crew has apparently wrapped shooting, will this show explore the unknown regions? How will Thrawn fit into this universe.  This and more on todays Big Thing Sith Council! #Starwars #badbatch #Theacolyte #starwarscanon #skeletoncrew  BETTER HELP: This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp: Visit http://www.BetterHelp.com/bigthing today to get 10% off your first month. ATHLETIC GREENS: http://www.athleticgreens.com/bigthing GREEN CHEF: Go to  http://www.Greenchef.com/thing60 60 percent off plus free shipping!  MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-big-thing-kh-channel?ref_id=27393 AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1KPH42T0TP0PG?ref=cm_sw_em_r_un_un_djbxgIW5ZQMMg PATREON: http://www.patreon.com/thebigthingshow SCHMOEDOWN ARCHIVE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMovieTriviaSchmoedownArchives Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/harloff OTHER GREAT CONTENT: REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT368qY7sfE0nKE4c04CqGvu TV REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT1LU-t2Z9AD5UJDiWW4pS_E STAR WARS SHOW https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT0XmfpbblkF9PY7uO2qhbN6 THE BIG THING PODCAST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT3KAwbzDsv6mdR-gwUiydQg FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome back to Sith Council. It is Wednesday. We are very happy to have you here today. A lot, I guess a lead-up to Mandalorian is really where we're at. Yeah, we're going to do the Bad Batch episode. I think it's episode five. Yeah, sure, why not? Episode five is when we will recover Nat for a bad batch.

These two idiots All right I haven't even started right Morons So here we go Once again We have that Daisy Ridley's back talking Star Wars

What could be the future of Ray if anything Amanda Lesteadberg talks about The Acolyte And what the shooting process has been like Speaking of shooting process That seems to be complete With skeleton crew How's that going to work?

And we've got a lot of questions coming in from you guys. So we'll do that more. The original crew is back. Myself, Darth Sabraa, Alanowski. Let's get at it. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

This is Sith Council. It is myself. Steph Sabraa. Hello. And there he is, Darth Kalanowski. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Back from Super Mario World. Yeah.

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This sounds exactly the same. Welcome back, everybody. We're going to be, Mike wasn't here last week. I missed out. You missed out. So did you miss something? I can't wait to hear your thoughts on the bad watch. I miss when I don't, like, just the lead up to us getting ready to do the show.

I miss you guys. I have so much fun. We laugh so hard. Yeah. This is my, you know, time of the week that I just love to hang with you guys. I'm glad to have you. you back, buddy. Yeah, I did watch.

Yeah, I'm caught up now because I didn't watch the first two and I was chastised for it two weeks ago. Yeah, well, you didn't watch the third one. You watched the first year. Remember we said this? I haven't seen it after the new year. All right. I'm always, that's irrelevant. I'm caught up, caught up on.

You caught up on. Bad. Yeah, and how you, sorry. So we both, you didn't love, see, Stefan and I thought the first two were fine. Yeah. And then the third one we both thought was pretty good with, with crosshair. Yeah. And the fourth one we thought was a throwaway episode.

with, you know, what's his name? Tech running around. Bargain basement. Pod racing. Yeah. Exactly what. So then this one, now they're on a mission with Wanda Sykes and they're just... Yeah, and then there's a big monster that comes in at the very end. And it's like, again, this is spoilers for this episode.

This is another, there's a two back-to-back spoiler, excuse me, kind of filler mission of the week episodes, in my opinion. But what I will say is this. I have seen 14 of the 16 thus far. Okay. And that there are a few episodes that are really fantastic. I mean, like, fantastic Star Wars stuff. This is not one of them.

That's how I feel. Mike, I'll start with you. What were your thoughts on this episode? I get the show is just not for me. Bored? I'm not that I'm bored. I found, I was looking at my phone a lot. Here's a thing.

So when I went to click on it. Jesus. Mike. What? What does board mean? You know, I said here, I talk to you, and you're like, don't worry, Mike. I'm on my phone, but I'm listening to me.

Were you bored with my conversation? No, you're bored out of her skull. You weren't. No, I wasn't. No, you weren't. Yeah, but she was paying attention to you. Yeah, not really. Well, then she was bored.

Can I talk now? Can I talk? Yes, please. Go ahead. So when I clicked on it on the Disney Plus app, if you notice Bad Batch, Omega is like front and center on the graphic. That's changed since last season. Last season it was the batch.

Like, they were all front. So this show is gear. it almost seems like it's pivoting more towards an Omega show with the bad batches, the backup. It's not that, though. I can tell you from watching it. No, no, no, but I can understand why you... But I'm going off of two episodes right now,

and it's just like, I get... I hate to say... You're saying in the kid angle of that. Yeah, it's like, I think that they realized the corporate looked at, maybe when Iger came on board and they're looking at the marketing one. I was like, all right, you know what,

and or that's a dull. This is way before Iger. I know, but I'm just saying, like, but the graphics, that can be changed daily. True, true. It's just like, this show's going towards the kids. And it is, I don't feel from the Clone Wars episodes that I've caught up on and the Rebels that I did watch and my rewatches or whatnot,

this seems like it's different from those shows. It just does. Again, I have an unfair perspective here because, like I said, I've seen it. So I know where it goes because they do go darker a couple episodes too and away from just like a kid-ish type thing. I had less, I don't have that particular feeling stuff like that it's geared towards children. I don't feel that way. I think kids can certainly watch this,

but I feel like my issue with it is the issue that we've always had. And that's what is this story? And the last two episodes are just about, okay, well, the argument's going to be, it's about Omega really fitting in and being attached to these characters and be attached to the Bad Batch and establishing the family. I already got that. I understand that already, but this is what it seems like to me. Where are you stand on it?

Yeah, I feel very similar. I think that it's fun to watch, but I keep thinking like, this episode more than ever and last episode feels like a video game like I'm like playing with it and like going through trying to find this treasure with Wanda Sykes and it's fun but I also feel like some of the I need to compare it to last season but I feel like the graphics even look a little bit more video gamey to me interesting like less in the Clone Wars look of it yeah the music is phenomenal continues to be phenomenal is my favorite part of the episode music's great yeah Kevin Kiner's the man he's He's the man. But yeah, I think that that's the thing is that, and again, I just come from a different perspective. I'm excited for you guys to watch the episodes that I watch because there's some really good Star Wars episodes in this series. There's a really some good ones. Perfect example.

This show watching that episode versus watching, what was it called, Legends? Which one? The one, the Tales of the Jedi? Tells the Jedi. Like, both animated, but one is just, that's what I'm going to watch. Well, you know what? And that's a great point, because I think that for me, I agree with you. you 100%, Tales of the Jedi for me had more of like a, for both storylines, both Asoka and

Duku had objectives for their stories. And even when they were like these little side particular things that were happening with Asoka kind of lost in the village, it's still played into the overall thing. And I think that that's what this show misses sometimes. And maybe it's because they're doing 16 episodes. You're right. And back in the day, people talk about filler episodes, you know, you had episodic TV of 22, 24-ish episodes. You would have Phil. Lost, season two, famous for it. What they're called bottle episodes, where it's just one location, where Mando, was it 13?

But even the bottle episodes, even the filler episodes, which you call them, we're telling, feeding into that overarching storyline. These don't to me. It just seems like, and that's fine. But you can't get mad at people if they go, where's the overarching story here? What are we doing? Well, I think that that's why it's in the position stuff that it's in right now as far as what, it's an appetizer before Mandalorian hits. I mean, that's what it is. And it's like, I think what it does perfectly is that, hey, look, I'm, I'm looking for, I just had Andor, I'm looking forward to watching, I'm a big Star Wars fan, I'm looking forward to watching Mandalorian, but I got nothing on TV.

He's like, I'll tune in to Bad Match. It's a fun little watch. Yeah, I think it's what their focus is really trying to build, like through Andor, Mandalorian and Bad Batch is how the Empire really took over in its way and how it did so with the clone. and just, I think, giving more supplemental evidence to the prequels and the movies that came after it, which I like, I don't fault them for it. And actually is nice, like to see, especially with the crosshair episode, you kind of see how important the clones are. Because as like when I was a kid watching it, I got the clone aspect, but not really. Right.

If that makes sense. So you're kind of getting more into the psyche of them and like the inhibitor chips and that's the stuff that really works, by the way, in this series. And it starts to, again, just a, I'm not spoiling, but when, you're, they start to explore that element more and more about the clones in general, the clips, but the idea of the clones and what they mean to the empire and how they're kind of like, expendable and, like that's the stuff that when this stuff,

when they explore it, that stuff works. Like, like, and, and they, they do that a lot in this series, but it's not in episodes like this.

What I will say that this sets up really well that I didn't know what I can tell you guys again, um, from watching the episode. When I watched it the first time, I didn't feel this way. Wanda Sykes' character in this one, she's just like another character that kind of shows up that they work with. Yeah. This, you can make the argument for she has a bigger role to play.

And then because of this episode, it sets up a relationship with them. So that's where I'll say it does fit into the story. Because like she, because her character winds up to do. And I like what they do with her character overall because it's not just, well, what's the difference between her and sit? and there's a major difference, like a major difference. She's a really good character that is set up in this episode. So that's the one pushback I'd give to myself is that it's not just a mission of the week, even though it is, but because of the introduction, I mean, I know she showed up.

There's like a seed planted. Their relationship is planted in this and the way that they work together. And, you know, the stuff at the end with the, it was like a monster movie, old school. It was very, I think like someone like Josh Robert Thompson would love this. episode because he's like a big fan of like that kind of old school serialized you know thing like this is this is something that you would turn on this this was i think and this is probably if you would talk to philoni this is something out of like george lucas's head as well too like

the kind of like thing that you would watch if you were a kid in the 50s and turn it on and like this is the monster show of the week yeah if i was a kid this like you know the gounies it's so fun like every kid wants to be the one that finds something they go digging for in the backyard and ends up being a compass to a treasure chest. That's like every kid's dream, right? So I like that idea of with Wanda's character, I really do actually love this character, but I feel like you establish her personality so well in the first five minutes

when she's telling this grandiose story of her treasure hunting. And then maybe you can minimize the treasure hunt to like half the episode and then do something else with it. We're just playing into it. Yeah, and I, it's, but it's fine. Well, you know what it is? It's the fact that, like,

because I even hear myself like, you know, saying that to us, It's because there's 16 episodes. That's really what it is. That's exactly right. That's why they have episodes like this, because the answer of like, if they didn't explore any story of where it goes,

because they do. And the show gets significantly better as it goes on. I will say that. It gets significantly better. And there's towards the end of it, there's kind of, there's less of the fillers that they start to actually focus on a story.

And I know you well enough that I think that once we get towards the end of this thing, you're going to really start to enjoy something. episodes it's the same with you Mike um but this is the kind of stuff though that you watch and and like mike said when he walks in this show i don't know yeah there are a couple of episodes you're gonna be and maybe because of episodes like this it's the episodes that are really pop because palpateen we know in the trail is is coming yeah and i was thinking about that today i was like remember the trailer like they're going to reintegrate things like this yes and then one little nitpicky note it felt like Wanda's like so talented,

but it felt like her lines were kind of chopped in. Interesting. I don't know. That's interesting. Mike, you're very pensive over there. What's going on? I have so many thoughts that you guys bring up.

Let them out. That's why you're here, well, okay. Like, first of all, one, this was just kind of a throw away. Like,

it bothered you. It bothered me that the thing was called the heart of the mountain. Mm-hmm. That's the Arkinstone from the Hobbit films. Oh. So I was just kind of like,

you just not know what you, come on. Or they did it or it was an homage. Or an homage. I don't know if it's an homage. You could have called it, you know, the liver of the mountain or something. I don't know. Beef and shoes.

Yeah. I'm just curious. I was thinking about this because I'm doing a couple of rewatches right now, one of the 90s Flash TV series and also Batman the Animated series, just on my own. And why? Because I love them. The Flash 90s series is fantastic. I was just curious.

It's good. It's incredible. It's really good. I'm just curious why you picked that. I'm just bored. I was going through doing a house cleaning after Christmas stuff. And I have the DVDs and then popped it in. Very proud.

But I realized it was like Not one of those episodes Strung together They were all stand-alone filler Or you'd call them filler It was like When did we as storytellers in this world That we're in everything now

Episod of Television became Billed to a big all-connected Was it with Lost? I feel like because I just started watching Not just but last year I started watching the Batman series For the first time Yeah I feel like I don't know

Because I wasn't born when it was made But they were establishing They were establishing D.C. The world So much of what comes after that show is, like the characters And you know what I mean? Like you're playing on a new field. This, we know the world.

But that's what I'm saying. But for this show, would it be better if it wasn't building to a big thing? It was just like, this is the bad badge. Adventure of the Week. That's what they're doing. Was it Josh Robert Thompson, you were saying? They would enjoy this? Like, the Adventure of the Week.

But they're doing that. But then you guys brought up great points. I'm listening to you guys. That episode felt to me like in my head what I think Skeleton Crew is going to be. No, I don't think so. It just did. And it might completely wrong. It could be completely talking on my head.

But it felt like, oh, I have a feeling this is what skeleton crew is going to be like a crew of all kids, though, with one adult as opposed to one kid, all adults, going on these adventures and they find a map or treasure. And they're on this adventure. And we're going to talk about that. Because he mentioned Goonies. Yeah, we can. And we can get into that in a second. But before we do, I got to tell you guys about athletic greens. You guys know how much I love athletic greens.

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A few of the stories. And I'll start here first. All right, Skeleton crew. Here we go. So it's all wrapped up, at least according to a, a stunt person. Now little is known about John Watts News Star Wars. This is from Rosalie Lambert on Star Wars Newsnet. You can get all your stories, Star Wars News stories from Star Wars News News. A little is known about John Watts' new Star Wars

Disney Plus series A Skeleton Crew, but some light might have been shed on its production timeline by members of the stunt team. A since deleted Instagram video was posted by stunt coordinator George Cottle celebrating the end of filming and thanking his colleagues for their hard work. It was captioned that's a rap on skeleton crew, was reported by deadline, and the same sentiment was then by stunt actor Julianna Porter on her Instagram story, saying she can't wait to see what's in store. A spin-off series starting Jude Law is set after the revenge of return of the Jedi in the same period as the Mandalorian. John Watts has described the plot as a group of kids for about 10 years old when they get lost in the Star Wars universe. Disney appears to have a

plan, have a lot of plans for this post-episode 6 era as more and more Disney Plus content is exploring this time period. It seems as though Disney is keen to forge ahead in the Star Wars Universe whilst attempting to keep fans satiated with characters and stories from eras they know and love. All right, so it's supposed to hit in 2023. We know that as well, too. Yeah. With this one, so the first thing that I said, and you get a kick out of this yesterday,

or Monday, I was talking about how you look at this kind of stuff gets leaked, right? It's by accident sometimes. Now, I said the person that did this, there's, A few different options. Option one. The guy tweets out, very excited. Yeah. Tweets it out, gets a phone call.

Hey, you got to take that down. The hell you know. Nobody knows. Oops, sorry about that. Yeah. There's another guy going, watch this. Tweets it out. Does it?

And then they say, man, you got to take that down. He's like, come on. I can't tell what I'm doing you. And he's a problem. And then there's the other guy. These stunt guys. You think these stunt guys are paying attention to the mystery box and all that? Clint, you think he cares?

You know what he's doing? He's wrestling snakes in the backyard. And he's like, and they're like, hey, you want to take it down? He's like, oh, yeah? Come make me take it down. And they're like, Bob. He's like, Clint, you got to take this down, man. He's like, I'll tell you what.

You come over here and you fight me. You fight me. You hit me in a hell with a glass bottle. If I don't fall down, you can't take it down. I'm a stab you to death. It's like, Clint, take it easy. It's like, you don't want to mess with these guys. But out of the, either way, either way.

I say, like, because I, all my buddies are stunt guys. And they're tough bastards. Yeah. And you think they're paying attention to the mystery box? A lot of the kids, too. It's funny that it's done because you're getting younger and younger as I'm getting older and older. But it's funny because you said this shoot's in England, right? I believe because you said George Cottle.

Cottle was, first time I came into contact, not contact with him, knew of him. He built the Batmobile for Batman Begins. He was the driver of it. And so he's now coordinating. So I don't know where I was going with this. I think he's like, you know, it's like, you got to take that down. He's like, hey. What he's talking about?

Cottle, Cottle's one Cottle's guys posted, not Cottle. Right. So they're going to Cottle. Like, hey, you're a stunt guy. Tell him. He's like, hey, me, what you doing? He did a job there. You can't be doing it.

But what do you think, though? But it's like, I know it's bullshit, but you want to work. But it's also one of those things where it's like, so we wrapped on a film. It's not, he didn't say who's in it. Right. Right. They wrapped in the film and who cares. Exactly.

Who does care? Like, so arbitrary that piece of information. He could have been talking to a friend and been like, oh, yeah, I wrapped my last set. I guess maybe because they don't want to have anticipation around the idea. They just want a blanket on it like you don't say anything. Oh, well, they wrap. Release date, release date. Right, right.

And they want to save stuff for a celebration. So with Star Wars Newsnet, they get the scoop and they post, stunt person says that filming's wrapped. Well, Lucas wants like, hey, here's our official statement. We've wrapped filming. They want to do it. Stunt guy number five that was a, I mean, I guess it's also, maybe it's also about precedent and also too, right?

But he knows the people that know are those people because they're there in the set. Hey, martini shot last, we're wrapped. That guy's, I know. So it's probably precedent to really listen. It doesn't, it's little thing. It's like we wrapped, but we don't want anything out there. So just take it down. And which makes sense.

But I'm just so curious of what it was like because there's so many different scenarios. There's the likely scenario of, hey, can you take that down, please? Because you're not supposed to. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, my God. You got it. Absolutely. And that's probably what happened.

But I just like the idea of the guy sitting on his porch with a cigar waiting for them to come tell him. And they have to, like, approach him with like six different guys. And they're like, please take it down. And he just, I ain't going to take it down. You'll shut him. Come make me. Right. Like an old stuff guy.

He's like, hey, boy, my day, you didn't care we were wrapping on social media. You tell me to take it on for yourself. I'll take it down, but not before I take three you down with me. I'll take it down when you take my pants down. You suck me off. Whoa, whoa, whoa, kids, kids. So, but there's going to be, there's going to, you went one step. You just jumped with your pants right off.

It's always, this is the line and I do this. Right on the line. Right on. Right on. Right. All right. Listen. So, but either, but let's go.

Unbelievable. You guys missed me, didn't you? Not really. Missed me. All right. All right. All right. So we're getting it back.

We're getting back to the actual skeleton crew itself. because Mike had mentioned, and we talked about it. One of the coolest moments that we had at Star Wars Celebration was at the hotel, when we saw John Watts out there and we started talking to him about the show itself. And he said it was like Goonies and he said it was like stranger things. And he said he brought up the how, but he said there was still like that, like the moments in the Clone Wars that could get really dark. Like it was like that.

And so that got us excited. And how excited he was about the project also got us excited as we talked about it for quite a while after we met him. So the thing is, they also mentioned this in the article, this seems to be going, Skeleton Crew seems to be going more and more down the path of a potential big crossover event in this time period. There's these Timothy Zon novels that were, that Mike and I loved his kids,

and it was the whole Thrawn trilogy, and there was always this kind of hope that they would do something in that realm. It looks like they're setting it up. There's looking, there's little things that they look to set up, It's Luke talking to Osoka going, will I see you again? The idea of where is your boss talking about you? And Osuka talks about it with Thrawn. And then the idea that this is essentially another season of rebels kind of all mixed in together.

And then you put the skeleton crew in there. The unknown regions are the thing that we have not explored yet. It is a great way to put Grogu out there and why we don't see them later on. You can put everybody, you can put a bunch of different people out in the unknown regions because it's unknown. And it's also the time period is unknown and space works differently and all those types of things. They're going to set up a brand new thing that they can get away from the rules of the timeline and the stuff that we know. But I'm curious what you think, stuff. Yeah, totally.

I didn't even think about that. It's like I, and I also trust in John Watts to not do what you were talking about, which is kind of this adventure of the week. I think that he has like a special gift of, especially with the things he mentioned, right? like Goonies and Stranger Things, that to me seems like a really nice mixture of this happy medium where it's not as serious as Andor and it might have more fun moments but kind of like a good collective union of those two tones.

Yeah. Do you guys know, did John Watts drop out of Fantastic Four to Do Skelton Crew? That's what it seems like. If you explore the actual full timeline of it all... I was trying because it just goes to the way he said, what I love is a filmmaker that is excited about, what he's working. Right.

So to drop out of Fantastic 4, after you came up for three Blockbuster Marvel films, you know, you could tell, like, maybe his heart was into that. They wanted him. He's like,

he's hot, he could do it, make a killing money, but he went and did Skeleton Crew, which is lesser profile. It's not like he's not going to make some cash to him. Of course,

but it's a lesser profile than Fantastic 4 MCU. Right. But I love that because it's a filmmaker that he has an idea or something that sparked him that's like, I got to tell this story,

as opposed to, yeah, I'll go back with Marvel and do this. So, yeah, I can do this. Agreed, but I, and I think that probably, he probably wanted to take a little time off from making movies. And I bet you television got him excited when he was doing the old man. Yeah.

Of course, it did work with me every game. Absolutely. And then, but, you know, also don't take away from the power of persuasion that, that, uh, that John Favro has. John Favro probably saw this. He mean, John Watts. They've worked on the Spider-Man movies together. They're tight.

And he could potentially be doing a movie for Star Wars after Skeleton Crew. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if on, on no way home. Watts and Favro started talking. He's like, dude, come to Star Wars. Take a break from Marvel. Come to Star Wars. You know, yeah. The vibe is different.

Come on over here. It's going to be me. I'm your boss. Yeah, and he's like, come on over here, man. Just play in the sandbox. Come on. Yeah, he's like,

I had this idea of what I could do. Look, we can make me. Me and Dave can make that work. I bet. We can do this thing. We can play it all together. And what if you, what if you're thinking that? What if these, what's your idea?

What if those kids got lost? We're doing this thing in the unknown regions. What if the kids got lost there. And they collaborate that way. You can see those conversations happen. Come see the volume. Just see what we're doing. Because there was a Favreau-Feloni verse that is happening inside of Star Wars.

And that's this time period. Now, okay, so we've talked about that. And you've always talked about, and I fought, not fought you on it, but we talk about the connective universe. You want it to all be. And I'm like, it is connected. But you're like the Filoni-Favro thing. That is makes a much more sense.

That's about an MCU as you get. Right. But don't you feel like everything needs to them be brought into that or no? Well, it's so weird. It's harder to do because it's almost like you've got to bring, it's history, right? You're bringing all of history together. So in one way or another, whether it's a mention or those types of things, it's not so much that I think that you can, you'd be able to do all that.

But if you're going to play in the Obi-Wan sandbox, right? Yeah. Then do the same thing you're doing in the Philones in that time period. Okay. Right? You know, like, and do it. So if you're going to launch a high republic or a end of High Republic series with the Acolyte, then make that a thing.

in that off and didn't have a couple of them inside there. So there's like there's a couple connected ones that you can, you can franchise and you can branch off. Like that, like that's why I've always to this day still said the old republic is your best bet to do that because you can play in that sandbox for years. And especially now after watching what the last of us is doing with Knights of Low Republic,

they can make this happen. They just have to have the balls to do it. Okay. Fair enough. All right. Let's see. So Steph, I'm going to throw it to you here because we're going to get,

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What do you want to talk about here? I would love to talk about Amandaa talking acolyte production. Let's do it. Miguel Fernandez, our buddy. The Sundance Film Festival is turning out to be an endless source of information from Star Wars personalities, both Daisy Ridley and Aldenar and Reich, have been asked for their experiences with the franchise and their plans for the future while promoting their latest projects there. And now, the accolite lead, Amanda La Stenberg, is the latest to join

the party. Stenberg is currently promoting their film My Animal and when asked by comicbook.com about their experience on the set of the Leslie Headland series, this is what Amanda said? What can I say that won't get me fired? Well, walking on to set, I'll just say this, this is vague enough. You know that it must take a lot of technical ability and craftsmanship to make Star Wars, but you have no clue how expansive it is until you're part of it, whether it's the puppeteers or the costume designers or all the folks from all different departments who build the sets. You don't realize how much incredible technology and foresight there is in every element until you're there. Stenberg is a self-professed Star Wars fanatic and even said

during Comic Con last year, so my whole life is Star Wars. When I wake up, I think about Star Wars. I I love Star Wars before I go to sleep. I read Star Wars. I listen to Star Wars podcasts. You know, they are currently taking some time off from the Acklelight Series in the UK to attend the festival, but business is proceeding, as usual, on the other side of the ocean. Before the holiday break, the series was filming in multiple places at the same time, following the strategy using Andor in season one and season two, also in production right now.

Headland's captain of the ship, she's the showrunner, she's executive producer, headwriter, and even director of the pilot, and possibly some other episodes as well. So in other Ackleight news, Daphne Keynes agency confirmed in a listing that her character's name is Jackie. For now, there's no additional information, and there's really not much to speculate on. Here's the official synopsis for the show. The Ackleid is a mystery thriller, I love that already, that will take viewers into a galaxy of shadowy secrets and emerging dark side powers in the final days of the High Republic era. A former Padawan reunites with her Jedi master to investigate a series of crimes,

but the forces they confront are more sinister than they ever. anticipated. I mean, I love that. All right, everything about this. So, Steph, you're the one to picked it? What do you think about Amanda's comments? That's great. We read their comments about how they love Star Wars, breed Star Wars, and we love that. And I think it's really cool that they had such a good experience filming it. And I'm excited about how much they're putting behind this project, especially because all the actors are pretty big names in television and then the mystery thriller part. Have we heard that before? Yes.

We knew it was going to be, yeah, I guess a mystery, but I didn't hear the thriller part, which I'm excited about. Same. And what I've heard about it in general that I love is that one of the greatest things about Andor, look, I love the volume. I really do. I think what the volume did as far as technology goes was so great. And what it was able to provide during, like, the pandemic was fantastic. My biggest concern with it, it was like any other piece of technology is that they started to rely on it too much. and or started to go,

they didn't use it. They went into locations. Now it takes longer and it takes more time to do, but I think it benefited from that. Now, Mandalorian has been using it. Well, I think Boba Fed and Obi-Wan

looked at the fakesest out of all of them. Go ahead, Mike. No, I'm just to piggyback what you're saying. I wonder why that was. I wonder why the Mandalorian looked so good and Boba and Luke or Obi-1 did not. I don't. I mean, there were scenes in Mando where I'm like, where do they build that set?

And I would see behind the scenes. It's like, that whole city was in the volume? House of the Dragon did it well, too. How they did that versus, I don't know if it's a time thing or who knows what or whatever. But like all CGI or stuff like that or all technology. The best filmmakers always say that use it to enhance what you've got. Right. Don't just use it as a blanket thing to cover everything.

And I don't know how if the acolyte is going to use it at all. Yeah. But from what I've heard, is that the Acclach is using a lot of sets. And then as a mandela said. Shooting with Andor right next door, whatever they're saying. And now with that synopsis, now that, I don't know if I've heard as much in that stuff that I've heard yet. But I'm like, this has got really great.

This sounds like old school Jedi's and robes going around gothic structures with their lightsabers, dealing Star Wars trouble. Yeah. And they were, and they're living at a place where they're like the only, they're like the king of the castle. Yeah. They're running the shop. So the fact that they've got to do this investigating reporting of something happening because it can't end well for the Jedi and the Patawan.

It can't because it shouldn't. Well, this is 100 years before Phantomis? Something like that. Okay. You can't. Well, though the Jedi will be in the prime, right? Yes, but those two particular Jedi cannot reveal. They can't reveal.

If they discover that it's Sith, they can't reveal it. They can reveal that. Sub's going down. for them. That's what I'm saying. Oh, I thought you meant just in general. No, these two, these two particular, that are investigating. Anyone that's involved in this investigation has to die without a word of it being spread. And if they are spreading it, they're spreading it to the people that want it to be quiet. And they'll say, we can't talk about this. They're going to, they're dead. It ends here. It has to. No more words of this to anyone. Yeah, it has to be.

Because remember, Maul says to Palpatine and Phantom Enise, he says, at last we can reveal ourselves because they don't know anything. Anybody who does it. Because in, in the Darth He's been novels. A few of them find out, but he wipes him out. Let me ask you this. Go ahead, Billy. We're stuck on this, the beholden to what's come for. Are they going to play fast and loose with it?

Like, meh, we know he said that in Phantom Menace, but we're telling our own story now. Could they play it loose? Yes. And they certainly did that in Obi-Wan, and I hated it. Right. They did that so many times in Obi-Wan. It was like, ah, you guys can figure out. And on the other hand, and or a little bit where he says the whole thing I've been at the since I've been six,

where we did seem as a kid in Rogue 1, you assumed he was part of the rebellion at that early age, but he wasn't. But it worked. Yeah, that one was different because he never specifically said that. I know, I know, and they worked in. But there's certain things. And the show was so good. Lucas was very guilty of that as well. Of course, of course. So I'm just hoping we're at a new point

with Star Wars where they're going to be like, hey, these are incredibly important plot points that were established in these Phantom Menace movies. We've got to behold to that. Yeah. Hopefully. Yeah. Well, either way, stuff, I'm telling you, this show is on my high anticipated because not only this this thriller aspect from Leslie Headland's experience in general and because of Andor as well I'm sure that she is like you know what I'm so glad that I'm able to kind of go down the route that I wanted to go originally because now that Andor did what it did

it's going to give me a cushion like I can really play a little bit more because that stuff that played It worked well because instead of, you know, getting the Disney note of make it lighter, make it fluffier, make this and that. And that very well could happen. But this got to give you hope that we're going to go a little darker with this series. Totally. I think you're absolutely right. I think Andor gave the green light and then what's even better, which Mike might not care for, but we do, that they're going to have lightsaber. Oh.

Like with this darkness, they're going to have Sith. Like that is. You're going to see lightsaber fights. Right. Yeah. A lot of them. That's so great. Of course I care.

Like, I want that. Like, I got the one show that I said I wanted. Like, I wanted to see in Star Wars. But I don't want to never be star lightsabers and stuff. I'm so curious of who's going to be.

Who's going to be the, who's going to be the, yeah, the Sith because you would look at, it seems as if Amandala is the former Padawan reuniting with Jedi. She's got to the younger one. Maybe. Yeah.

What's a? Mani Jacinto. Is the Sith? He has like a jawline. I think he's a Jedi. I think he's the lead Jedi. I think that... No, that's Li Zheng.

Oh, is that? Okay. Okay. So maybe you're right. So maybe so, because I think that Daphne Keene is going to be the accolite. Oh, yeah. I think Daphne Keene is going to be the thing. Now, where this leads, though, to, like, Plague is, right?

Because if it is, and again, Plague could still be the apprentice of the accolite, you know, down the line. It's very possible. But we'll see how. it all plays out. I'm very excited for this show. I can't wait. I think we will finally get some news and some footage at Star Wars Celebration. You'll probably be the one to see it. And for people don't know, most likely, most likely, I am not going to be going to cinema con this year. So Steph is probably going to be covering celebration for us, fingers crossed. And just yell, what is she proposing? Yes, please. Yeah, like we only did it a couple times last year.

Anyway, you know, we're going to go on some other stories, but there's no other major ones. I think we hit it. I want to get some of the questions. So let's get some of these questions here. We got a few of them. You guys have sent some questions in. We got them, and here's the first one.

Christopher McLinden. Hey, Christian Arloff. Hey, man. Love the show. Hypothetical question regarding and or, would you be down with several episodes in season two being solely dedicated to individual members of the Rogue One team in one episode per member for a more fleshed out backststststst or,

leaving into the events of Rogue One. For me, probably not because I don't, if there was like another season, but I know that this is, this is it, this is season two, they're going to have to, I want, I want them to, now I know we're getting a time jump. They told us that, but I want to see the formation of the rebellion, of that crew that we know. I want to see Mon Mothma really step into that leadership. I want to see Mon Mothma and Bill Organa working together. I want to see Andor start to, you know, grow into that hardened kind of badass that he is in Rogue One.

I don't need to see the crew of Rogue One because we learn them in Rogue One. That's like Rogue One is the series finale to Andor. Yeah. So, yeah, go ahead, Mike. I've always enjoyed in stories where we have this team together, Ocean's 11, Mission Impossible type stuff, where we don't know the backstores of these characters. They're just brought in because of their skills. I would love if we talk about characters, one character that would work in the same,

I want K2SO. I want them. Oh, they're going to bring them. I know they are, but I want to see their bond because it is so strong in Rogue One, I want to see how that bond developed. Like the hot and chewy bond. Well, going off of that, and I know we did our bit with Brett on this, you know, the whole how they did it in canon.

And I was surprised because some fans are like, nah, they're not going to pay attention to that too. I think it is crucial for them in a certain aspect to, in the comic book. for canon comic books, they show the events of how K2SO and and or meet. If they decide to not do that, you cannot take Star Wars canon serious anymore. You just can't. I mean, as far as the comic books and novels, you just can't. And like if you like to read the stories and you want to pay attention,

and it'd be because you like Star Wars stories and you should. But you can't read them anymore or going, oh, this is how it all happened? Because if they decide it doesn't work for the narrative, that's the whole problem with doing it this way. but do you agree with me or do you disagree? That if they don't... If they don't do it the way that they did it in the comics. Yeah, but the way they did it in the comics, I just don't... You don't love it.

I don't... I mean, I think there... For your example of The Last of Us and bringing that to life, there's a way that they could add a character, take out a character, and keep the dignity of it. Difference. That the comic, the game is not canon to the show. It is an adaptation of the show.

Yeah. This is the novel, this is the problem. with making everything canon is that the comics and the novels are supposed to be actual history. So when you read it, it's not an adaptation of it. It is supposed to be how it went down. That's the problem. That's true. I think that, yeah, they'll have a big decision to make.

This might be the decision. You think Tony Gilroy gives a crap about the comic books? Not at all. Not at all. He doesn't care if he's like, this doesn't work for my story. And it very, and I'll tell you. And they'll go, okay, tell your story. And to be honest, they probably should do that.

Yeah. But get rid of this whole notion that anything inside of the comics and things are canon. Because it's not anymore. They've changed it so many different times. That's why I stopped reading. It's a tough line to walk because it does happen because that whole comic thing came about. I remember we started covering them because Disney was like, there's whole stories to tell.

We just don't have the screen time for it. So tell them this, you know, whereas the books in the past, like that's legend stuff. These comics will be canon. Right. Everyone wants Dr. Afra to come up. When she pops up, those comics ain't going to be what Dr. Afra is. It's going to be their own take on fuck. Because they wanted to be.

That happened for so many years with Marvel, the MCU, and it's like taking the movie characters and putting them into the comic books, and this and the comics can't have because of the movies. And it's tough because the comics came before the MCU. These shows came before the comics in Star Wars, but now you're doing Star Wars comics. There's a difference to also still, because the comics from Marvel were never said to be part of canon into the movies.

That's the difference. You're right. Is that when you have all this stuff, because it's very similar to what the point was for stuff with this game. It's like, okay, fine. You know, we're going to adapt some of the things that we loved about the Ultron comic. Right. And implement that into the movie. Because it's not, it doesn't, they don't play together.

Kathleen Kennedy comes out in 2012. Everything that we do, it's all one connected story. Yeah. And then they go, nah, not this time. It's like, well, wait a minute, but I'm a problem. But I'm reading the story because I wanted to know, I always wanted to know how K2SO and and or met. Well, we're going to tell you. Yeah.

And then a filmmaker comes along five years later. Just kidding. I want to tell that story. Just kidding. Yeah, don't worry about that. Which is totally fine if that's the case. Like, they had their take. Just don't tell me that that's how it actually happened.

But the ship has sailed. I know, but they got to change it then. They got to say, like, look, we have too many confusions of because of filmmakers and stuff. Because it's a misrepresentation of what it is and you're false advertising to your consumers. That's what that comes down to. because if I want to go and I'm going to find a story, like I always wanted to really know how this plays in. It's like, no, this is that particular person.

This is this author's representation of it, but it doesn't really, but this is how they assume, like how the legends are. Like that Darth Bain story, that Darth Bain story is not in canon how it all went down, but I love those stories, but I know that it's not connected to it, but I love those stories.

Here's the thing. The Star Wars fans, all they are Star Wars fans, they watch, read everything. It's not like the casual people's like, I don't read the comics. I just pop in for this episode. So that is a huge thing,

and that's why they're getting that focus in the feed of the Star Wars comics. I don't read the Star Wars comics really a lot. There's a couple I'll pop up every now and then, but it's not my thing. But to say that and then to take that away, that's massive because it's getting the areas that they want that you don't get ever get.

You are essentially taking it away, though. Yeah, you are. If you don't, and this is my point. I think that it's a hard handcuff for the filmmakers, but it's if you want to not take it away. Right. If you don't make that canon on how they meet, you are taking it away. If it's very similar to what Steph was just saying,

if it's a version of that story, like if you adapt it, but it's kind of like that, but a little different, but it's similar, then you can do it. I'm very curious to how that's going to play, but I'm very curious. All right, let's get to the next question. Great question.

Oh, thank you so much. Jim Mason. What do you all think the key ingredients would be to make a new trilogy of film successfully, especially if they weren't connected to the Skywalker saga. Steph, how are you? A plan. Yeah, yeah, 100%.

That was my answer, too. I would say, Jim, it was his name, right, Jim? Yep. You hit it in your own statement, not make it a part of the Skywalker. No Skywalker in there. Do not mention a Skywalker. Don't even make it your own, a new trilogy,

separate from anything that's come before. That's the first. Well, I'll tell you the other thing. Step one. Yes. And I think that this is also the benefit of the television series, right? This is why I think establishing this unknown regents thing is genius. Because you can set so many stories.

If this unknown, unknown region's things becomes popular. And this whole thing where Thrawn sets up, you could keep Thron alive for years. Throne could be a villain because then you could say, like, well, why isn't Thron? Why didn't Throne come back? And how come he's not around during the Ray era? because he's out in the unknown regions causing dominance. He's a leader out there. He's a dictator out there.

And I'm not saying they'll probably defeat him, but this is my point that you can put anybody out there and say it's so far away to where these kids got lost, like these things like Grogu, that's where Grogu is. That's where he's been the whole time. That's where Soka's been. How come Soka hasn't been? I know she shows up as a ghost or an array,

but you get my point. Right. And by establishing this kind of new region that we've never explored before that the empire has no say over or nobody does. Nobody has any, the rebellion, new rebellion, whoever, whatever the fuck

they're going to. First order? First order. No, not first order. Final order. Well, who's the resistance? Resistance, all of them. The new republic, they don't, they can't get there. And so this is a

great idea because it's probably their fix of saying like, well, they set up so many, JJ and Ryan, they set up so much rules and stuff that we've got follow. If they set up the unknown regions, it's a new government. It's a new, it's new, it's new heroes. What do you mean by they say they can't get to it? Has that been established that it's an area that is just uncharted? So no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The unknown regions are like, they're not, they're not charted. It's like very, you know how hard it was to find octu? Like,

times a thousand. They just needed a knife and a map. Right. But you, but you can't find the unknown regions. And it's like, imagine if you set this up well enough, the unknown region's, a new government, new heroes, tons of Jedi there if you wanted to, tons of, like, as it starts to get set up. I don't know. Steph, what do you think about that theory? I think that would be great. I think that it is kind of, for the next few years will be easier to make new stories

and then, let's say in five, 10 years, you can revisit where we've already established. Yeah. All right. Let's get to the next, I think as far as that question goes, though, I think that setting up, I agree with Mike, setting up things outside of this trilogy for their next trilogy. I don't think that you never do anything that connects to that timeline. I agree. But setting stuff up outside for the next one, I agree with Mike.

I think whether you put it in the old republic and the unknown regions, any of that stuff. All right, let's go to the next question. Thank you again, Jim, for that question. Daniel Kogat, would you rather have the Darth Bain novels developed as a film trilogy or a series? 1,000% a series. I think because of what Steph just said before with Last of Us. Now this is a different situation from adaptation.

This is what I have been just trying to throw out there and hopefully the Last of Us is a indication of what you can do, right? Where you can adapt something, a story that people know or that people have read and do it the right way and do it in a way that's detailed. A Last of Us movie would have been ruined. You would have tried to, I mean, the first episode alone is an hour and a half. You would have had to cram, you know, what, 10 hours of storytelling into a two-hour movie,

and you lose it. And in three-hour movie, okay, fine, so what is it? However many, do the math, however many episodes, that is still not enough into six hours of film. When it comes to novels, when it comes to video game adaptations, I'm saying that it's not some novels you can condense into a two-a-old. our movie, you can, or six-hour trilogy, sure. But if you established for, you're looking, you're looking at three or four seasons of Darth Bean with those three books. If you do it like eight episodes or some, maybe 10 episodes, and you get so much more detail and you can really get

into the nitty gritty of what that is all about. And in movies, the problem with movies is you have to get people to want to spend their money on those tickets. So at the very end of each movie would have to be these big elaborate, expensive battle scenes, right? You should have battle scenes in TV as well, too. Look at Game of Thrones. They do it all the time. But you lose the dialogue. You lose the character development in a half an hour thing.

And now you only have about an hour and 20 minutes to develop your story and your characters. So no. In no world would I want to see a Darth Bain trilogy in movies. I'd want to see a series. Absolutely. I think that a series, when you're establishing a character that established all the movies to come, that a series is what would make sense. And another reason, though, Mike, too, that I think that at Darth Payne, you've got a better chance historically to lead a series with a bad guy. And I don't even think, and by the way, I don't even think that I would ever do either one of these,

because I don't think Disney has the balls to lead a television show with a bad guy. The acolyte is not even going to be led by a bad guy. It's going to be led by the Jedi and the former apprentice. It's got the best possibility for a villain to lead a TV show than you ever going to have a Star Wars movie lead with a villain because it doesn't end. That trilogy does not end with the good guys. It ends with the bad guys with Darsana.

So what do you think? You make good points. You don't know what we're talking about. Of course I know. talk about, but I just know that like it's funny you say that I watched your video on The Last of Us you're talking about with the

and the video game curse and whatnot. And this video games are long form storytelling. They just are. Right. And it cram two hours into a game that you could play for 40 hours. It just doesn't work so that's this last of us cracked it. It's just like, you know, uncharted. I don't, could be

as better as a movie I would think. Do you think so? I don't know, man. It's Indiana Jones. Uncharted is Indiana Jones. Nathan Drake is Indiana Jones. Yes. You can tell a concise story. But you don't think that could work as a 10 hours.

Of course. Anything that could work as a movie can work as a TV show. How old that? But I don't think everything that works as a TV show could work as a movie. I agree. I agree. But anyway, so much of it. To answer your question, I think in a Darth Bain TV show.

Yeah. In no world would I want to see that as a trilogy of movies. Please no. All right. Let's go. Next one. Okay. So this is from Noah John.

By the time Asoka and Sabine find Ezra. Could Thron have convinced Ezra to join him? Would be a good way to set up high stakes for a second season. I love all your shows and the balance of comedy and series you bring. Thank you so much, Noah. I love this question. I mean, I love it. I would love for them to take Ezra and make him a villain that he's kind of,

he's kind of Thrawn's Vader. That would be amazing. The problem is this. Mike's never watched rebels, right? A lot of people have not seen rebels. I mean, the argument can be made Mike turns in, tunes in to see rebels, or excuse me, tunes into see Asoka, sees Ezra and goes, oh, this guy's a bad guy and goes, oh, this guy's a bad guy.

And he doesn't know his history and maybe he doesn't affect him at all. And it's just who he is. He just starts off. And if he wants to go back and learn his history, he can go back. But it's just how much explaining are they going to have to do on Ezra in general, if that's the case. I love the idea of him having like a Vader and it's Ezra. But I just don't understand how that would have all went down.

Yeah. I mean, it's fun. But also remember, I know this kind of foregoes your point, but for everyone who's watched rebels, you know that this is the exact storyline of what almost happened with him in Moll. Right. That's right.

Right. Yeah. Good point. Great point. And then it didn't, like, and that was a part of Ezra, like, realized that wasn't for him. You really have to see how Thron was able to do it,

considering that his will wasn't broken by Moll. How did Braun get to do? Yeah. So I guess, and also you want to, in who you're casting to play because aren't you casting Ezra? Because Ezra at this point is a more, he's serious, but because he was real fun

and kind of, you know, he was Aladdin. Really, it was what he was. And I think, by the way, that's why Minamussah didn't get the role. Too much. He was a ladder. Because I think that... I wouldn't have cared.

Yeah, I wouldn't have cared either. I think that, I think that with Mina Mossad, everyone thought that he could play him. And I think since the second Ezra was created in Rebels, they look and everything. compared him to Aladdin. Everybody did.

Now, casting Aladdin to play him, you know, what are you saying? But either way, though. No one would know that except for us. I know. I agree with you. But I think that general audiences,

I think you get too caught up into what studios see in this small bubble of holiday where it's like the general audience, the family in Kansas that is too, they wouldn't care as much. I would have no idea. I would have loved to see me.

I think Minamasa was the perfect Ezra. I don't know this new actor. I have no idea if he even was cast. Yeah, I agree completely. So he could be great. Yeah. He could be great. But I just, I like, I like Moussaid a lot.

I wish he would have gotten cast. All right. Last point, because Mike's got to get the hell out of here. So let's do, let's do one more. And then we'll call it a day. Here we go. Oivensans. And I'm sorry if I didn't get that right.

Eulen McGregor says that he's open for a season two of Obi-Wan. Do you think it will happen? And what should the story be for a second season? This is a very interesting question. Because. Yeah. the show did amazing in the ratings as it should.

They sold it on Vader, which Vader shouldn't be in the second season. I don't think he would be. Kathleen Kennedy talked pretty openly that they were open for a second season after she did that thing that she always does once something successful and then, but then once the blowback started come back for the show a little bit, then it got a little bit more quiet. But Ewan McGregor even said that it would be up for a second season

because they talked about how it was supposed to be kind of like one-off thing and then they started talking about it. I think it will happen. I don't necessarily think it should, but I think it will happen. I think that if you look at where we're, we're now in a particular time where we've talked about in the past, where we're saying like, look, in 20203, we're going to have three shows. And that was like, when we were talking about that a year and a half ago, we're in 20203. So in 2024, we know that we got Andor.

we don't know when Mandalorian season four will come out. It would probably either be 2024 or 2025. But what's in 2024? I think we're going to get some announcements to start with celebration. Yeah. And I think that Obi-1, season two, will be one of them. What do you think, Seth? I don't think so.

You don't think so. I think Ewan is saying this to kind of be like, I'm proud of what we did and like just like set this tone of like 10 toes down in it. And it's like, yeah, of course I'd be excited for a season two. but I don't think that the story is there, really. Not yet anyway. Yeah. I agree.

Mike, let me ask you this. Do you think that they're going to... Well, first of all, do you think there's going to be season two? And if so, do they announce it at celebration? Okay. I don't think it gets a nice celebration, but I think there will be. You think it will be? I think we'll never see Book of Boba Fett chapter two.

Yeah, that's never happening. No. Obi-1, for all the wrong reasons, we're going to get another Obi-1. I think you're right. I don't think there's a story to be told. Yeah. I think, think about this. Okay, he went off on this,

he got to help me in this. Oh, Jesus, all right, I will. So someone else's going to come down to him. Hey, everyone, you got to help with this. I would rather know that he is in that desert by himself in exile because that's the terrible thing of what's happened to his world, and he is now by himself alone, rotting away, like, just dying. Essentially living his death.

Totally. Until New Hope, where he gets at one final thing. Don't more adventures. Like, here's what I'd like to see if they're going to do it. First of all, I would prefer. I would rather them use Ewan as Obi-Wan in other stories, right? Do you mean flashback to them, D.H.? So hold on.

So two things. The first part of it is whether or not it's Bell-Organa doing a side mission and something like Andor shows up, has a quick scene with him. He shows up there. He shows up as a flash, as a forced ghost at some moment, whatever it might be. You can use him whatever. You can use them in flashbacks in certain scenes, whatever.

If they were going to do an Obi-Wan season two, my pitch of it would be that it would be a younger Obi-Wan. And it would be an Obi-Wan in the Clone Wars era. And it would be an Obi-1. The story that was the most intriguing in all of Obi-Wan that we've mentioned in this show a million times over was the conversation he had with Leia about how he was taken as a younger kid by the Jedi

and about his brother and all that. Let me see that story. So you had a different actor, young actor. But then you can also play into... You flashback. You can do Young Indiana Jones. There we go. You do it like that. You do a season two of like how, like you play off of that conversation of how he became a Jedi.

Show me that. I want to see like a young Obi-Wan and with his brother. Like who's his brother? Like as opposed to them flying around with crate dragons and talking to Quigon in the desert. It's like who cares? Here's your story hook. He's in his hobble. You know, we didn't see his home that he built where we see him in New Hope. Yeah. So that's him finding the place going through his good chest. opens up, pulls out an old artifact. Boom, flashback.

Right. To that storyline. So, book ends with Obi-Wan. You were kind of hoping what we did for Book of Boba, by the way. It, each chapter. Right. Yeah, book, it starts the episode with Old Obi-1, ends with Old Obi-Wan. In between his younger, he's still, yes.

Yeah. Yeah. That I'd go 100% for it. So they did that thing in the comics. Again, you could take the comics was on, he went through in his journal. His journal, like, the stuff that he went through in his journal and, like, the adventures of Obi-Won, like, Obi-Won season two, adventures that he went on, Ultimately, what we thought it was going to do, you just said,

what we thought was going to happen to book of Boba Fed, the chapters each, a chapter in Obi-Wan's life, every episode is a, whether it's Clone Wars, whether it's maybe one episode is in Tattoine. Maybe it's with the, he fights the freaking, what's his face in, in Obi-1, the wookie, you know,

he fights that thing. Lacosanth? Yeah, and like, so, like, like, adventures of what we want through, like, you know, what they were going to do with, you know, the tales of the bounty hunter, like that thing. All right, the jetter being wiped out. Jacosta News Gone with the Jedi Temple's like this is his way to remember the Jedi.

So if anyone ever finds this journal of his, it's a document of what he did. Right, right. He goes through his journal. That's your story hook. Yeah, if you went, well, you follow the journal from the comic books, that could be it. But I, him, but they won't do that. No, they'll trot through. He'll be trotting through Tatouine with, with the ghost of Quigon.

And then they'll say, well, we need to bring Raider in. You got to bring Vader. There's rumors and then the Reba will show up again. And everyone will lose their minds. So it's like, so no. I think they should just leave it. I think they should leave it. And we're going to leave you guys.

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