The Kristian Harloff Show - IS TARON EGERTON THE TOP CHOICE FOR MCU WOLVERINE?

Episode Date: June 23, 2024

This episode of Capes is a little late but better late than never we feel! Taron Egerton has been long rumored to play Logan aka Wolverine for the X-Men. Sportsbooks have him as THE top choice. He has said that time has passed but lots of people aren't buying it. We discuss. The new Penguin trailer dropped. Good stuff? Is it the gangster feel we were hoping for? Superman photos and  will Chris Pratt join the DCU? This and more on Capes and Cowls with Kristian, Winston A. Marshall and Coy Jandreau.

How's it going, everybody? Welcome back to the big thing. It's capes and cows. Lots to talk about here today, man. We've got the popular choice right now for Wolverine is Tarynneggarton. That's right. Comic book movie talking about it. We'll discuss it.

Is he the right choice? Is he lined up? Do we think it'll happen? Is he going to be the next Wolverine? There's been tons of talk on this dude as Wolverine for like the last two, three, four years. Who knows? Maybe even more. Switching up, you go to D.C., a lot of Superman.

talk here today where we've got tons of set photos. It looks very Donner-esque, but there's also one particular shot that looks like the Daily Planet's under attack. So what is that all about? And speaking of Superman, Chris Pratt's been rumored for stuff and people like, oh, is he going to play booster gold? Well, it looks like he's going to play somebody because he was visiting James Gunn on the set of Superman.

There's a picture of it. Does that mean anything in particular? Maybe not, but maybe so. there's other things to talk about the boys as episode four that just hit there's more marvel stuff there's more dc stuff there's tons of it that's what we do on this show man we talk about everything going on in the world and comic book movie news so this is what the friday show is thank you for joining us here today i appreciate it we've got a lot going on we've got a lot going on it's me and it's winston and it's coy hit that subscribe button if you will thank you so much

let's get into it it's me It's Winston. It's Coy. It's Cates and Cal's. Here we go. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Capes and Cals. It is myself, Christian Harloff, Winston A. Marshall, Coy, John Dro. Gentlemen, how the hell are you? So I want to give a shout out to the gentleman for the, the hell. that they gave me here today. This is one of the things that we're dealing with on the new schedule.

I talked about it on yesterday's show. I have a really great opportunity for an interview and I'm going into the city today for a screening. But my screening is around 1 p.m. so I've got to get on the train just around like 11 o'clock.

So I was like, I got to get a show shot with the guys because I can't shoot tomorrow at like 10. Great for me. For the guys, it's like 7 a.m. So there, it's, It's earlier for them.

They're doing it here. They're troopers. And because of that, we're doing something a little different. Normally do this in the beginning of the show. Very beginning. We're going to do this in the somewhat beginning of the show. Winston says, before we get started, man, I am going to do a magic mind. I legitimately said, hold on, I'm going to go get a magic mind or I will fall asleep in the

middle of the show. You did. And so for people who don't know, magic mind is an absolute wonderful. wonderful energy. It's so much energy. It's clean energy. Adaptogens, all that stuff. And it is so good. We've been with them for a little bit. And we're really excited that, I mean, this wasn't even going to be a thing. Winston was just like, hey, I'm going to, I got to do my magic mind. Hold on. I said, well, just do it on the show. So tell people about it. And Winston, what are you digging about about magic mind? I mean, it's one of those things where if you want to talk about just getting

kind of instant alertness. That's the, whatever they have done and put into this magical little vial here, this just... It's clean. It's clean and it hits, and it hits in such a wonderful,

mellow way that you will go from, I'm exhausted, just, oh. Yeah, I like it because it's like not like this. It's like I just feel like my mind, obviously magic mind, you start thinking clearly, but so if you guys head on over to magicmind.com slash big thing and you use that code,

big thing, you will get a discount. And the link is in the description. You're going to see Winston and Coy go from zombies to the wonderful intellectual beings that they are in just a moment here. Intellectual. So there you go.

Can you see my Twitter, Christian? Yeah, well, yeah, I know I have. But we're not talking about it. We won't talk about it that long. But Coy, isn't it? It is, you said something, actually, something on Twitter yesterday. I was like, look at Coy.

Look at Coy. He all groans up. And what he said, and we won't get into an act like discussion here, but it was just along the lines. Look, you can say a thing is not good. It's possible to say things are, it's bad, like bad television, and it just happens that other people who are hateful share the same opinion. It's just not good television. It's all it is. Yeah, something can be hated by people that feel about it differently and why it's not good, but you can also, I think should be able to safely say why you think. like it's not good and not be lumped into that same category.

100%. And I think for years, it's a very easy thing to assume. And like, you know, the way the internet works is very much like a headline is the entirety of a news story, right? So it's, I think it's important to read some of the text. And yeah, the Akelyde, you know, I really want to like it. Yeah, I really want to like it. I know, but it's tough.

And so people wondering, oh, my gosh, this is what the show is going to be? Coy's looking like he's in the bat cave and sending like tin cans or slapping around in the background? No. Boy has a good microphone that we're going to get him. Coy has good lighting. And Coy's actually going to be shooting from Winston's, but it was not right of me to say, A, can you do the show at 7 a.m.?

And B, can you do it? Can you go over Winston's at 7 a.m.? Because at that point, forget me. Then Christian has to deal with Kristen. Right. And he don't want that smoke. No. Because he'll wake up and he'll be dead.

Dude will be kidnapped. It'll just not go well for anybody. Yeah, I'll wake up dead as a zombie. So, but it'll be, it's just not, it's not, it's not, it's not the show yet, but it will be. It will be. And we're, we're excited for it. And I give shout. Next week's our pilot.

Next week's our pilot. Yeah, today's just making sure that we have a show and that we can talk about the stuff. And speaking of which, let's get into this. Let's, let's start with the Taryn Egerton stuff. Here it is. Wolverine, Taryn Egerton is the favorite to replace Hugh Jackman as Logan at the bookies. I guess there's a betting site, but Taryn Eggerton remains a fan favorite pick to take over as Wolverine and it seems that the Kingsman actor is also the bookie's favorite to replace Hugh Jackman

as the iconic mutant hero. Mark Cassidy over a comic book movie says, Hugh Jackman retired as Wolverine after James Mangles Logan, but the actor was convinced to reprise the role with Ryan Reynolds in Deadpool and Wolverine. We don't know if Jackman will stay on as the iconic Claude Mutant after the R-rated three-equal, but rumors persist. He's going to return for at least one more movie, probably Secret Wars. It's always possible that the Aussie actor will stick around as the MCU's Wolverine going forward, but we're likely to see a younger actor step into the role. We're not sure if Marvel Studios has anyone in mind, but several actors have emerged as fan favorites, including Kingsman and Rocket Star Taran Egerton, who also happens to be the current

bookies favorites. Here's the full list, betting odds, sportscasting.com, which I would be visiting after this show. This is bizarre. Okay, so listen to this list, and then I'm going to go over this full list, and some of these names I don't think they've ever heard as, and they're pretty favorite. All right, so listen to this guys. Taryn Egerton plus 200. Tom Hardy, plus 300.

Scott Eastwood plus 500. Henry Cavill plus 800. Jeremy Allen White plus 800. Charlie Hunnam plus 900. Jamie Dorman plus 1,000. Zach Effron plus 1,600. Daniel Radcliffe plus 2,000. How do you not put like 100 bucks on Daniel Radcliffe just for the hell of it?

with a plus 2,000 odds. So what does that, what does that pay out? They pay out $2,000. If you, so for $1,000, you get $2,000. So if you put $100 on that,

you just ended up, damn, yeah, I might have to put $100 on Daniel Racklin, bro. Yeah, what if it's only for a cameo? Because I'm pretty sure

we're getting a Daniel Racklin. That's, I think he's the, well, right, I think it's, I think it's, you'd have to be pretty clear on it when you're betting.

It's like, well, are we talking about dead four or some MCU? Yeah, there's a lot of fine print. There's a lot of fine print. You've got to see what exactly it is. But, I mean, I think that what we'll do mostly in this conversation. So let me see if there's any more to that particular article before we move on here.

Now, it doesn't mean that Egerton or any of the others listed are here or ever will be in talks for the role, but it is certainly interesting insight into which actors the bookies think will emerge as top contenders to play Wolverine. Here's what Egerton potentially suiting up as Logan. here's what Egerton potentially suiting up as Logan in the 2023 interview. He said, I'm not going to be the guy to play Wolverine. There's no signs pointing towards that being the thing. And I just don't know if I'm, maybe I'm getting to the point where that's not what I want anymore. I don't know.

I never say never. And I love those movies. I enjoy watching them over the test 10, 15 years. But I don't know. You know, it might be not be the thing that's right for me. I think maybe I'm past the point where they feel it's the right thing for my career. So that's not that encouraging overall. However, when you look at his relationship with Hugh Jackman,

and I assume that he has then had conversations with Ryan Reynolds, who then had conversations with Sean Levy, who then had conversations with Kevin Feige, who he's already had conversations with, you can see where your interview from 2023 can go, that's a kid. You know what I mean? So I do think he's going to be the guy.

I think he's going to be the guy. I think he's the right person for the role. I think he hits the right. I think he's the right age range also. And I think you can get him for another 10 years. And he's a brilliant actor. But I don't know, Winston, you see these odds. Anyone that stands out that you think is definitely going to be the guy?

Or is someone that's not on that list that we're not talking about here? I know someone that I feel like definitely won't be the guy. And that's Tom Hardy. I don't understand how he had odds that high considering how old he is. And I would also probably throw out Henry Cavill just in the sense of kind of the same thing. pushing it. Too tall. Too tall. And that's the other problem is that let's finally get

what Wolverine is supposed to be, which is what makes him also so incredibly fascinating. Dude is a shorthy. He's not, he is not, like I love Hugh Jackman, and I love what he brought to the character. And that was something that I think we all kind of like blew past

at the time just because of what he was bringing to the character. But it, this is something that like does add, an element of badassery to him that he is five foot nothing but eviscerating people. That just does a little something extra to the whole thing. Yeah, well, Coy, you know, by going off of Winston's, I think, correct logic there. Taryn Egerton, I think is 510, 511.

Harry Potter himself, Daniel Radcliffe, is like shorter. He's like 57, 58, something like that. So is he the guy? Is Edgerton 510? Something like that. can look short, but also Google always lies. So I don't know. Like, I've worked with a lot of actors that Google's like 5-9. I'm like,

you're a 5-6 on a good day. Like, there's some top of cruisification. Says he's 5-9. So he's probably 5-7. But, like, I think personally, Radcliffe is a fun choice for a cameo. I don't see him as the MC Wolverine. No disrespect to Radcliffe. I think he's

one of the more interesting actors working, but there's a maliciousness that I always talk about. with certain characters that's like in there resting that I think he doesn't have. Hugh Jackman is a really interesting case because if you didn't see Hugh Jackman on stage, you'd believe that he has that and he doesn't. He seems to be so impossibly kind. But I think we as a culture,

have an association with Radcliffe that'll make it harder to get through that barrier because we've known Radcliffe growing up. We've all kind of grown up with Daniel Radcliffe. So we didn't know Hugh Jackman was a sweetheart. We knew him he was Wolfrene. And then he showed he was a sweetheart. And now we're like, we accept you as you six foot three hunky man that also happens to be able to be angry.

But I think the problem with him or Cavill is they're really similar. And I think with this Wolverine, because he's already going to be compared to Hugh Jackman, you need a very different take. Like Wolverine's an interesting enough character that you can play him extremely differently and still be accurate to the character. But I think the last thing you do is cast someone so similar to Hugh Jackman as a six foot three tall dark and handsome like you you need more of a feral little smells like peanuts in the bottom of a bar floor kind of guy yeah and and honestly like i think taryn um we haven't seen him play

feral often we haven't seen him like that but i think we don't have as much association with who taren egerton is as a person as we do growing up with radcliffe so between the two i'd say terran uh and another thing that uh matthew vaughn who made x-in first class he's been putting all of his weight behind his guy, Taryn. They did, you know, Kingsman and stuff. And I did an interview with him for his newest movie, and he was saying, like, the only guy he's ever seen. And he's, he's the guy that, you know, Greenlit a lot of stars. He put Daniel Craig in a movie first. He had Tom Hardy in the movie, like, very early on. Like, he's very good at finding movie stars. So I think his name has some weight. Sure. Like Matthew Vaughn, he's really brought a lot of stars to light. I think Matthew Vaughn's

X-Men is the closest X-Men we've had. I'd love if he had some weight in deciding who, you know, this next round might be. Coy, the only thing I'll say with the, I agree with both of you guys. I think Taryn Agriotton is the guy, 5-9 plays short enough on screen. You put someone next to him who's 6-2 and that person will look 6-8. So on film. But let me say this about Daniel Radcliffe, where you say he doesn't have that kind of ferocity and all that.

And this might come off as a joke, but it's also for real. You ever see him with the paparazzi? I'm not even. I'm not even kidding. It's pretty great. I got a lot of respect for you. My man's got some anger. Yeah.

And he's, and maybe rightfully so anger at some of the points of what happens. But he can play, he can play angry. And he's got a lot more depth than, because it's the same thing, not to bring this back to Winston, who is 100% a million times over it, hey, I was wrong. But we were talking about Pattinson for Batman. And the Twilight thing is because a lot of people, not just Winston, just saw. Twilight. That's all they saw. And with when you're playing Harry Potter for that long, everybody sees Harry Potter. And it's got to be for him. He's done, I mean, I get where you're

going with that. And he's done a lot of work over the years. And so acting chops wise, I don't doubt that. But I understand what Koi is saying about what your, what your gear shift, is like what your neutral is. Yeah. And, and, and, you know, Nobody's also saying that he couldn't have that in him and then get into character. And so every time he's on set, he just shuts it down and, like, puts that on. However, I get what he's saying because he has also been such a public persona, the fact that, like, it was trending the other day, uh, hashtag the day I met Daniel.

And it was all these people talking about, I went to go see him in XYZ play and I was out by the stage door. and he like pulled me to the side and we'd like talk for a while. And one girl had mentioned that, you know, he noticed that she had had self-harming scars. And she, he was like, it's so brave of you to like wear short sleeves. Like I know how hard that, but like he is such an angel out in the public. And remembered that girl for 10 years every time they saw each other and stuff like that. And that's more the association of neutral. I like how you put that Winston.

Like it's his neutral just seems so benevolent. And it's not that he's not a great actor. that can turn that on. And I think it's more about the association the audience has where Patinson is the perfect example because he had to overcome the perception. I just don't know if Radcliffe wants to be that public with a role and overcome that perception. Like I don't know if he wants to be in the spotlight to that level again or if the audience

would, I mean, he's got money. He's got what two percent of money? Dude, rich people, rich people want more money. That's, that is what it doesn't stop. You're like, I got it off. It doesn't stop. Dude, I'm sure he knows who actually is it and he put the bet down on them. I know.

That's true. But also, if you want to cast him as an X-Men, I actually think you should make him night crawler. I think that he would actually be a fantastic night crawler, especially if you follow through with the, not just him being religious, but like you saw in X-Men 97, they actually had him as a priest or pastor. I don't know either a I think he could bring a lot to that as well I think that that that sincerity that's in there that makes it that much easier for him to just transition into that because of how sincere nightcrawler is

I think to me that's a better casting choice It's a great call I think it's a really good call I'd love to see that also but I think that all of us are on the same page I think Taryn Egerton definitely has that he's got to everything in it is to play well he really does and he's a great actor. I think that it's a good bet.

You put $100 bucks on Taryn Agerton, you win $200 if you do that. And I don't even have any of these people for sponsors, I'm just saying. It is, it's, yeah, I would put the money on him too, unless it's like, look, this is the one thing with Wolverine, though, that also, and you look at Hugh Jackman, nobody knew who Hugh Jackman was.

That Hugh Jackman was, oh, who's that guy? I don't know who that is. And then now everyone knew him as, Wolverine. Wolverine is one of those characters that you could cast someone that we've never seen before a, you know, what's, what's this kid's name from the new Super David Cornswet, where who knew who that was, but a Superman. I also think Tom Hardy was probably on a shortlist. I think Tom Hardy was probably very near being cast after Logan. And then that is the only reason this list has him. I honestly think it was an undated, like, shortlist wherever these people got this from. Because I, I heard rumblings about Tom Hardy a decade ago, and I feel like people just kept him on there. I don't think post-venom that's happening, though. That's what I was thinking.

I was like, once he did Venom, there's no way that that was still a thing. Especially he's got a new movie. He's got a new one coming out. But I mean, as far, Tom Hardy 10 years ago. It's the idea. Absolutely. Perfect.

He is that. He's walking around. He's Wolverine. He wouldn't even know the camera's on. He's Wolverine. Yeah, the bike riders is the Wolverine movie. If you look at it, like it's, that's Tom Hardy.

Yeah, you like that. movie a little bit more than I did. I ignored that movie. But I, I, I, it's the age. It's not, it has nothing to do. Even, even if they were like, okay, venom's over, fine. You can, you can go do it. It's purely the age.

Yeah, we're not doing old man Logan anymore. We're doing, we're trying to find, no, we're trying to find a new. Yeah. We're trying to find a new Wolverine here that's going to keep us into the X-Pen world for a little bit. And if Tarant Egerton is, I think, mid-30s or something like that. maybe early 30s, whatever he might be. He's still got 15 years in the tank to play Wolverine if you wanted to. And so that's, I think that's the way you go.

And I agree with you guys also, as much as I do think that Daniel Radcliffe has the chops to do it, I think because of the association with Harry Potter, one way or another and getting associated with another role like this, maybe isn't the way to go. But who thought Heath Ledger would have been a good Joker, is what I'm saying? You know, it's like, if we were having this conversation, and let's all be honest, Heath Ledger is, like, Koi's like, favorite.

Yeah, he's my favorite actor of all time. I was Team Heath Ledger Joker, but I was the one. Because you love to him in general, but if we had this conversation, and we were talking about, you know, and back when he was getting cast, we all be like, that's an image, I don't know if I see it. I don't know if I see it. Heath Ledger as the Joker, okay, I mean, look, the guy's a good actor, but can he pull off the maniacal, I don't know?

And now he's like the gold standard of the Joker. So you never know. You never know. Okay, we are. What we do know is that there's Superman stuff, tons of it, tons of Superman stuff. And we have to discuss it. So let's get into it, man. Let's talk about soups.

This is from Comic-Hawk movie Set Photos revealed Daily Planet Building. James Gunshare's new behind-the-scenes shot. And there's also a familiar face in that shot. But let's talk about this. When you look at the behind-the-scenes of Superman, You see those photos right there. Their shooting is currently underway in Cleveland, and the city streets have been transformed into metropolis.

There was a glimpse of one of the storefronts displaying the Daily Planet logo, and now you look at the leader building, doubling the iconic newspapers base of operations itself. Now you look at these photos, and the spotlight is on the main entrance in the lobby. We're not sure here if the planet's signature globe will be sit atop the skyscraper, but that's something that would be added in post. Here are the photos themselves, and you can see it, and you can see the opening here of the Daily Planet

of the actual opening of the building. Here's the opening of the building right there. You can see that. I love what they're doing here. It's very old school. You see these pictures. And guys, I mean, before I get into the rest of the stories here, I know, Koi, I think, within the last, like, two or three years,

you just saw the Donner movies. Yeah, yeah, I thought the last thing I did of my 30th birthday. like I wanted to make it historic because I already missed it that long so I wanted to make it a moment and it lived up to 30 years later like it came out 10 years before I was born so 40 years later it is one of the best superhero movies it is it is amazing what that movie accomplishes um I it they're it's what I grew up on I love them I love them so much and I love the idea that when I look at this I get hopeful that the feel I don't want him to remake honors movies I want him to make James Gunn's movie of what he sees in Superman but I like taking that idea of let's make it look a little bit more retro. Let's make it look real. Let's not do this glossy. This is all CGI made through computers.

Like it doesn't, you know, like it's like it doesn't feel like too polished. I want it to feel like, you know, the old cliche, it feels lived it. So, Coy, you see these photos, you check them out. You see what I'm saying with the Donner look? How do you feel about all these pictures? I totally agree. I don't think it's going to be, you know, another Donner rehashing, certainly not a Donner sequel with a different actor and somehow having a child. But I do think it's going to be that feeling of Superman that feels more akin to the

Donner version, which is how I see Superman. I'm glad this doesn't have, you know, a darkness to it. I also personally am very happy to have Metropolis feel like it's a character. I'm a big fan of settings mattering. I think that's a huge testament to the Tim Burton Batman. I think it's one of the reasons that, you know, Superman and Batman feel different is their Gotham. It's a lot of nature and nurture. Like where they come from represents who they are. And I personally, one of the reasons I'm glad the D.C. EU is over is that that daily planet was innocuous government building number seven in those movies. It had no personality whatsoever.

Metropolis didn't feel like a place. And then even as recently as the Flash when the Batman chase scene is happening, it's like cool and shiny. but Gotham had no distinction or flavor. And to be honest, I love, love Nolan. But the first film in the Nolan trilogy, Gotham felt like a place. And then in the second two, it felt more and more like he really,

really loved watching Chicago. Like, it felt like Chicago. It didn't feel like Gotham to me. And especially in the third film, like that was the setting. Like in No Man's Land, Gothen is an important setting. And I didn't feel like Bain was in a special place.

I felt like he was in Chicago. So it was like he watched, uh, What's that Elliot Ness movie? Untouchables. Yeah, he watched Untouchables a lot. And then Batman was in Gotham slash Elliot Ness's era of Chicago.

So I want a flavor, even as much as I don't like what Shoemaker had to do because they made them make McDonald's commercials, at least his Gotham felt like a place. And I think even as recently as Birds of Prey, and people are going to be so mad that I'm preferring Birds of Prey to some sauceless Gotham, but at least Birds of Prey felt like a place.

So I don't think Snyder invested in setting. I don't think Mooseh Giaci made Gotham feel special. I don't necessarily feel like the flash lived anywhere. And those characters all represent their city. They're the heroes of their city. I want, and I feel like gun invests in location. Daily Planet already looks like it has at least more character than I've seen in the last 40 years.

Winston, Coy, a few weeks ago, took shots of Morton Scorsese. Now he is going after Christopher Nolan. So I ask. I'm saying the one flaw. He had one thing that I didn't love. And that's the one. If you're going to give a flaw, you can go after Marion Cotillard's death.

But if you're going to, but if you're going to, but if you're going to, that is the only one that's the only one. You don't got, I didn't look, I got your Gotham points. Yeah, I got your Gotham points. I got your Gotham points. I got your Gotham points with it. It absolutely felt like a place. Yeah. You lost me at the other ones.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You got, you got, you got, you got the goddamn football stadium. You have the, the full tunnel and everything that was going on. And then when you broke it down and it really became a martial law occupation, you want to tell me that, you want to tell me that there wasn't the character of Gotham. Are you out of your mind? Are there descriptors of Gotham besides, like, neolithic, brutalist architecture in a place that's lit like Chicago?

Because I didn't feel like there was anything special. All right. Well, anyway, the point, the point is this. Coe's a lunatic. So would you... He's a lunatic. But I understand his point overall. What...

I understand. The genesis of this conversation is that... I'm coming for Zemechus next. Who's got? I'm sure you are. Go up to the Polar Express. That's nice and dated. But when you have, his point, though, is not lost.

It's the fact that this looks like the Daily Planet so far. This looks like, you know, Metropolis. This looks like a feel. And it looks like James Gunn knows what he's going after. But you see these pictures, Winston, agree or disagree? Yeah. I mean, it's definitely, it is definitely painting a very specific picture. Now, if, based off of some of the stuff that we're seeing outside of the Daily Planet logo,

if Koi really wants to play this game, I can make the same argument, okay, so we're looking at literally a downtown. Do you want a cookie? So don't do this, Koi. You're wrong. And I'm telling you you're wrong. You know I'm never this aggressive. But like, how dare you? How dare you? But this looks genuinely very cool. I think what I'm more obsessed with looking at the photos on this article is actually the photos of the Daily Planet crew. Just because we'd already seen everybody, we'd only heard about Beth Bennett in this. That mustache spot on for Steve. Like I wish we could get him in the shaggy kind of hair look that they used as a reference here. I think that would be the coup de grace. But that mustache in particular, I'm like, yep, he is going to nail that role a thousand percent. And to me, yes, the actual setting, I believe, is super incredibly important, but it's equally as important about the people that inhabit said city. So for me, part of the reason why Gotham always had that. that character is because the people of Gotham made it very clear.

You think about the, are we going to blow each other upscene type situation? Like the one part where they go, where it's like the cops are started to chase Batman or whatever, but then the Joker's coming out with the rocket launcher and everything like that and the rookie cop and how he's going to handle it. Like all of that to me adds to the character, not just the location. And so seeing stuff like this with the Daily Planet Crew, I can't wait to see what some of the regular citizens of Metropolis are, not the ones directly connected to Clark. I think that'll be like the last kind of step for me.

Because otherwise, yeah, to a certain point, a lot of these, because they're based off of American cities anyway, you kind of just throw it in and make sure you throw on the right logo and will look good. So I, but it looks, it looks fantastic. This looks what the comics look like. Well, Winston just mentioned, you know, when you're, when you're blowing people up and blowing people up, and speaking of blowing people up,

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You can see this here. The globe is hanging above the entrance to the planet's headquarters. Clark will work there in the movie, yada, yada, yada. So here's the photo itself. And it looks like maybe there's like some debris and some kind of battle. The thing fell down or maybe they're lifting it back up. Who knows what the hell's happening here? It looks like, is there trouble at the Daily Planet?

I'm sure there was some kind of thing that went down. And then right behind that, you also get, I want to show this photo here of Chris Pratt watching with James Gunn in the background there. Is that who that was? Yeah, Chris Pratt. He's on the, he's behind. You look at that scene.

James Gunn's looking at the monitor. There's a dude next to him. And then behind that dude is Chris Pratt. So, well, let me, let's start with the Chris Pat side of it. It's, they're buddies. They've worked on a bunch of movies together. They've made a lot of money together. And maybe is it possible that James Gunn goes,

hey, Chris, you want to come on set and go check out what I'm doing on Superman? Oh, do it. I'd love to. I'm around. I'd love to, that'd be great. I'm going to come by and check it out. That's cool.

Very possible that that's what happened. Other side of it, hey, we've been talking about some stuff, and you're probably going to pop in one of these movies, and we're having lunch, and we're talking about potential business deals, and you're in town, you want to come by the set? Yeah, let's do it. And, you know, so there's five billion different options of what can happen. happen, but I think that if you're James gone and you can put Chris Pratt in one of your movies,

and you could probably get him to do it, maybe not at his extreme rate, but you'll still get him enough, and he can help out your movie and you bring some star power to it, sure, do you give him something like a booster gold? I don't think so. I think it's too on the nose. I think you give him something completely different, something away from Star-Lord, something that you know you wouldn't see him doing it all and you just turn it on their on its head but I like I'd like to see him in the DCU

why not Winston what do you think yeah I don't have a problem with Chris Pratt being in it I think we agreed though that it booster gold that's that's an opportunity for somebody else to really kind of have

that spotlight it would be too much like Star Lord where we don't want to just pitch and hole him into the same thing he's famous enough I think give him Give him genuinely, you can give him an important character, but not a character that, like, is center stage. So if you want to, like, I'm just like trying to think of random people he could play going on down the line here. Unless you're trying to wedge him.

Are you trying to wedge him into this movie? Nah. Then I can put him in this movie. No way. Then once you kind of get maybe, like, give it some time. But once you get into some more of the cosmic stuff, if you want to make him like, I don't know why, Koi, I can't shake him. him outside of being like Metron.

You know, it's funny is, I think he would have been a good Steve Lombardi if they hadn't cast him. He also would have been a good Steve. He would have been a good Steve. Like, picture him with the mustache. Like, and that would be such a great like, like, inversion where we could be like, oh, what a fun way to include Chris, but not have him like, you know.

Yeah. I don't think he's in Superman. I think he was visiting his friend and I think he might be in talks with D.C. And maybe that was part of the conversation. But I would, I think it's safe that he's already Garfield Mario and Star Lord for now. I think he's tucked in. Can you Arnold Terminator him? Can you put him as a bad guy?

I would love to see him get to flex actual acting because I feel like he's been playing. You know, it is acting doing the thing. I know what you mean, though. Off type. Off type. Yeah, kind of the opposite of was I was saying about Radcliffe. I love to see Radcliffe get to be perceived as something else. I'd love to see Chris get to be perceived to something else. Yeah, me too. I'd love to see Chris Pratt play a villain and like, you know, it's one of those things like, well, why would you, and I would say, and have him not,

See if you can do a role without any jokes. Be a good metallo, man. It'd be cool to see him be like stoic and intense and like, you know, become like a shell of kryptonian rage and metal. I'd love to see it. But if you're sitting in the meeting, though, with all those studio executives and you say what I just did about like Chris Pratt's not going to tell jokes, they're going to go, we're going to hire Chris Pratt to not tell jokes.

It doesn't get. That's like his, that's like his number one thing. Why wouldn't you have him tell jokes? and you know that's probably not unfair to ask but I just would like to see him go that's my point is that you don't need him to you have so many other people that can do

you just don't need him to if you're gonna use Chris Pratt and you want to put him in a role that's like big enough but like you don't put him at the forefront again I think you wait until you start talking about the new gods but I could see him as Mr. Miracle actually I don't know enough about it

I like Mr. Miracle I always saw like more of a depressed I mean Jake Jelen holds by Mr. Merrick because he's so dark But I can, or even what's his name? Paul Giamatti. Paul Giamatti. Yeah. Yeah.

But like, or Jake Johnson. Like I see someone that you're like worried about their. I guess I get that. It's just that, you know, like, Chris Pratt could do that too in the sense that it's always something that's like kind of bubbling under the surface. Because Mr. Miracle a lot of times does not present that way. It's that once the cameras are off him, as far as being in front of a. a bunch of people. When he retreats by himself, that depression comes

out, but it's that whole check on your your happiest friend's situation. That's what that would read in that regard. So it would be very Chris Pratt forward and then the acting back would be like a, but like I originally was going to say O'Rideon, but that's completely wrong. If Alan Richardson

doesn't end up being Batman like he wants to, he would be a fantastic alright. That's essentially that's essentially reacher in space with superpowers. So, Well, there's a lot here. Then what about as, Koi, as far as the Daily Planet under attack?

I mean, that makes sense, right? I mean, it feels all but inevitable, right? If you're going to build up a city and have an important landmark, there's a reason that most Avengers things happen in New York. Like, you want to have the iconography as part of the battle. And I think, you know, the Daily Planet having its planet back. It's been a while since we've had the spinning daily planet cinematically, like in movies.

They do it in the shows, but I'm excited to see that probably get hit. Like, you want to use the iconography. So I think it's the right choice to make Metropolis feel like a character and also to use the imagery of the comic book strongly. A lot's going on in the world of D.C. You've got Superman. Yeah, we just mentioned Batman, all these different people. And we know that the Green Lantern is coming pretty soon. We know there's a TV show.

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But you remember when they pitched the book of Boba Fett as the godfather of Star Wars thing? I'm like, what do we, what? When you say, if someone says, this is going to be like the sopranos of Batman, I'm like, sure it looks like it, sure looks like it. I mean, that's like the music, the gritty tone, the idea that it's not just him, they're not just focusing on the falcons and the kids and the struggle for power. And like Winston said, sure, it's like, oh, we're doing a penguin series. Do we care if Batman's not in it?

I certainly do. And they have the balls to focus on the villains. Focus on the villains. It's, and there's nothing that says that Batman maybe doesn't show up. If I had to guess, I would say you're not going to get a full-on Pattinson necessarily. You might get a like kind of Luke Skywalker-esque in the second season of Mandelorian at some point.

Sure. Well, I think it's confirmed already. I think it's confirmed that he's been on set. That he's been on set. Okay. But I, but what's interesting is I would put money. on you maybe get Bruce, but you don't get Batman.

And honestly, I think what you're saying about Bruce Wayne would be better for this show and not have Batman in it because I think it enhances Gotham. If Bruce Wayne is a figure that's not like involved, he's a playboy, he's not doing a lot to juxtapose the crime that's happening. And then like Batman is obviously what he's doing to solve the thing.

But I love when Bruce Wayne is blamed for just being a playboy. And it'd be cool to see all this crime and rampant, like dirt and gritty. and then him living this posh, extravagant life to make it look like Bruce Wayne's this pompous prick. I honestly think this show shouldn't have Batman. If it does, like, you know, him in the shadows, but I don't want to see the fight here. I think it'd be really cool if the show's called Penguin, build out Gotham, build out crime, because then by the time you get back to Batman, it's had that time of like that, if Gotham's flooded, let the town get worse, let Gotham

get worse, and let Batman have more to do in Batman to play the long game and trust your audience. because this looks like you kept saying the Sopranos, but I love just the idea of crime being a character that Batman is fighting this unwinnable war. Yeah, well, I mean, you're good, Winston. I was just going to say, if you must show Batman with this, I think the way you do it is maybe early on, in one of the earlier episodes,

you have maybe a fight that Batman wins and kind of mess this stuff up as far as just like arcs on the season. and then once you get near the end, if you need to show him again, you have Penguin win that fight, and then that leads us into Batman 2 of like now, okay, what's the aftermath of Cobbopat getting the better of him?

Yeah. You know, at the end of the season, whatnot. I think we're going to, I think we're going to get Batman mentions. I think that I feel like, and I don't know why if I'm making this stuff up,

but I feel like that there was already, like, rumors or reports that they're not going to use Batman, that they're going to use Bruce Wayne. I feel like those, I feel like those, reports that were happening that's the correct move like I was just saying if you know I know but I feel like but I just feel like that was a I feel like that was a report I don't know if that's true or not but either way um I even think that if you use Bruce Wayne it's going to be like you know him on the television

as they're sitting around in one of their gangster meetings or then there's then there's mention of so-and-so was at the warehouse and the bat was there or something along those lines we don't need to see him it's because I think coy's right you know you set it up to where, okay, we know that he lives here. Because people are going to be asking that question. Remember that when the Marvel, the MCU just got started and they had a single movie. And everybody in every movie has, well, where are the rest of the Avengers? Where are them?

You get all this stuff happening and Iron Man's not showing up and Thor's not sure. They're, oh, what's happening with them? It's the same thing. If there's that much crime around, people are going to say, where's Batman? Where is he? Because we know he exists. We know that he put him, you know, that he already did all this stuff. So it's it's year two at this point.

So why not, or year three, I guess at this point. So why not show, no, or tell, tell. This is an okay circumstance of tell, don't show. The other thing you could do, which would be interesting, because this drops when September. And maybe they have it in their back pocket. In the same way that we had, since they couldn't get the next Spider-Verse film done this year,

like they wanted to, they put out that short film. if you put out a short that explains that shows us why Batman would maybe not be as much of a key player right now, that would be kind of a cool like teaser, not only to tee you up for the penguin, but also to build lore out a little bit on the Batman, but you would have to have already done that. Obviously, they're not going to, you know, think of that right now, but that would be the only way I could see that if you wanted to go a purely artistic route and not feel like you're, you know, essentially just plot explaining it. you know, in the scene. I'm also entertained by, you know, people complaining we haven't had the Batman, too. You know, it's five years between them.

We got a full-on penguin show in between, like, what, six hours of entertainment instead of two. I'm so glad we get Batman and then years later Penguin and then years later Batman, too, because we get to live in this Gotham. And I'm so appreciative that we get a Batman that feels like the detective, the gritty, the noir. Because the Batman that's going to fit in the world of Superman and the world with the Justice is likely going to be a lot more comic-e. It's going to be a lot. Like, I don't ever want to see Superman in the world of Penguin.

I don't want there to be. You lose so much suspension of disbelief. If there's grounded, gritty crime and there's a guy with laser eyes that can stop all of it in two seconds. If you've got a guy that can, like, swirl around and solve all this, then what are the stakes? I want Matt Reeves Batman. I'm so glad it's separate, and I want that to carry on for years to come as a separate story.

Because I think the audiences can understand that there are multiple Batman now. Yeah, I think as long as you make it, I mean, the way that you're explaining it and the way you're sending it up and you're setting up the new Batman and in whatever movie it is or whatever show it is. And I think that there's more stories that we're just not going to be able to get to today because one of those things we kept talking about like Peacemaker, right? And we know that it's in Gunn's wife, Jennifer Holland, right? And so she is, she pretty much confirmed that she's going to be in the DCU. And that peacemaker, I guess, is in the DCU. And they're going to have to explain that. We're going to figure out how that is.

We discussed that. But there are certain characters that are going to make their way over. They're going to connect. And then there's going to be other things like this and other properties that you're going to go not connected. And I get it. And they're going to explain it. And it's not going to be confusing. That's, I think, what Gunn is going to do very well.

The other thing we didn't really get a chance to talk about here today is the boys. Did you guys watch episode four? I got so tired of that. That had, dude, Kendrick Lamar literally owned. The internet. I didn't even see people talking about the boys because that. Right. So episode four.

The fourth episode is my favorite of the season by a large. By a large. It's exceptional. Well, last night, last night I was, my goal was to sit down and watch episode one. Because I've just been so consumed with the move and trying to shoot shows and stuff that I was going to do that last night. But I still, I'm watching stuff from this projector that my brother got me, actually. And I sat down last night to watch it

And it was like next thing I would have put two shows up It was midnight and I'm like I gotta wake up and do these other shows I'm gonna I'll have to do four episodes And then by the time we get to next week I'll have you know the fifth reaction hopefully done So we'll see I'm gonna I'm gonna try to knock out two

I'm gonna try to knock out too because speaking it Because it's funny is speaking of Jake Jillan all my wife's watching Presumed Innocent right now Oh I can't wait to start that And she loves it so she's been watching And speaking of penguin he's got that show on Apple Plus, too. He's got sugar, which I want to watch. Oh, yeah, it's another. Apple, this is why I say,

and Apple is quietly the best dreamer, man. I say every time that I am trying to manifest that, um, that Disney is going to sell Star Wars to Apple. I am, I would, oh my God, I would love it. I would love it. It would be the best thing for Star Wars. Just how do you, hmm, how do you, they're never going to just sell, do you just sell the movie rights? Because you sell Lucasfilm without, you sell Lucasfilm. But I'm saying like all of the stuff you've established at the parks and everything, how do you... There's no way that you can do it. There's no way you can do it.

There's just, I'm dreaming. There's no world or you can do it. You'd have to... But I believe in dreams. I know. You'd have to sell it. You have to sell it and then also, you know, do something with Apple to then either you either shut down the stuff at Disney or you coexist with it. The answer is it's never going to happen.

That's the answer. You got to co-you got to co-you. I think you got to do. The Universal Parks has the Disney Comic. I was going to say that what Universal Parks has like Harry Potter. They can coexist. That's Warner Brothers. On the other side of the Mississippi has Marvel Comics.

They just can't be MCU. Yeah, I know. So I don't know. I don't know. It'll never happen. Anyway, so thank you guys for joining us here today on the show. And I do have to thank Winston and Corey for waking up slowly to do this show.

And let me start with... People in the comments are going to be like, oh, 7 a.m.'s not early. Ooh, I've got firework. I know. That's why I got it. away from you and went to Winston. So Winston, can you plug your stuff first before we get Koi celebrating? That's what's up. You can find me on all the platforms at the Swaggy Blurred. Just crossed the 3,000 marker. Thank you so much over on YouTube. About to hit 12K of

Instagram, bro. That reel is still flowing up. 15 million views or something, right? It's insane. It's absolutely insane. But definitely come and find me on all the platforms, and especially YouTube. I've been doing my reviews and stuff like that. I do apologize that I'm a little behind on those just because reviews take a little longer to edit. But I've also started a new show on the channel called The Blurred Breakdown. I am going through all of the news

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You find me on YouTube and Instagram as well. I do a weekly comic book show breaking down all of that week's comics and reviewing all the week's comics prior that's going to drop probably the day this airs because I'm a little behind too. It's been a crazy week and then also I'm covering the accolade and I'll be covering the bear next week probably in two parts because it's dropping all at once. So head on my YouTube. Yeah, there's so much. There's a lot. And I go on vacation. That's the problem that pisses me off. I got to work on vacation. You know, again, cry me a river. So thank you guys for joining us here today on the show. As always, if you're brand new

show hit that subscribe button on this channel we have tons of stuff happening monday through friday we have our big thing show i moved uap tuesdays over to the down to earth with christian harlough channel that's on there obviously on tuesdays we have the out of the theater reaction i'm doing out of the theater reaction today for horizon um we do trailer reactions we do uh reviews and all that and we'd be doing more tv stuff i'm doing like house of the dragon last week i was able to do you know my immediate reaction i didn't do my spoiler review for it but i will do my spoiler review on monday for episode two so tons of stuff so hit that button apple podcast spotify anywhere podcasts are found thank you to winston thank you to coy see you guys on the flip side

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