The Kristian Harloff Show - Is The Snyderverse Returning With The WB Sell?!

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

Is the SnyderVerse returning with the WB sell?! Today on The Kristian Harloff Show, we dive into a massive wave of breaking news across the industry — and yes, that includes the big headline: Zack Snyder, Christopher Nolan & Saudis set to bring back the SnyderVerse in a potential new deal still rumor at this point. With reports that Saudi Arabia's PIF enters the Warner Bros. bid mix, there's a lot to unpack about what this could mean for DC's future and whether the SnyderVerse could actually return. We also cover the latest box-office and franchise updates, including Now You See Me 3 topping the global box office, plus confirmations of Black Panther 3 and Now You See Me 4, giving movie fans plenty to look forward to. On the DC side, BLACK ADAM star Pierce Brosnan says Doctor Fate will appear in Man of Tomorrow, which adds more intrigue to James Gunn's Superman plans. In industry news, Tom Cruise has finally received an Oscar, marking a major moment in his legendary career, and we touch on comments from the Naked Gun director, who is unimpressed with the reboot. Join Kristian as he breaks down all of this movie news, the business side of Hollywood, and what these developments could mean for the future of Warner Bros., DC Studios, and your favorite franchises. SPONSORS: NUTRAFOL: See thicker, stronger, faster-growing hair with less shedding in just 3-6 months with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to https://www.Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code KRISTIAN. CASH APP:   Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/76rlxe00 #CashAppPod. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement. Discounts and promotions provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit http://cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. RIDGE:  Take advantage of Ridge's Biggest Sale of the Year and GET UP TO 47% Off  by going to https://www.Ridge.com/KRISTIAN #Ridgepod PRIZEPICKS: Visit https://app.prizepicks.com/sign-up?in... and use code KRISTIAN and get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup!

All right. The new rumor says that Zach Snyder and Christopher Nolan are going to bring back the Snyderverse. I don't know. And I believe it. I don't know. Saudi Arabia apparently is going to enter the Warner Brothers race. Is that going to happen? Box office results are in and the numbers are interostante. Carla Brigand did. Let's see what else. There's a, Tom Cruise got an Oscar, and we got our official look at Zelda. So those are some of the stories, if not more. I had almost a disastrous weekend, but it turned around a little bit. And I did see Wicked for Good.

I disagree with John's, John Roker's friend's tweet. So John can decide. He holds this guy up here. And I said the complete opposite. I ignored it like it was a fart in the wind. So we'll discuss that and more. So I'm going to play the intro. I'm going to see if I have enough time to shut my fridge door that I left open.

And here we go. This is the Christian Arloff show with myself and John Roker. Here we go. As soon as I hit the intro or find the intro, there's a lot of things going on. Welcome back to the show here, ladies and gentlemen. It is Monday on the Christian Arloff show. And joining me on this Monday, as always. is John Rook. What's up, Mr. Roka? How are you, sir?

What's up? What's up? How are you doing, everybody? Happy Monday. I'm a little washed out there. Let me correct my lining a little bit. But yeah, happy to be here. Okay, we'll talk about the wicked thing. Again, not my opinion. So tell David Jordow in the chat, it's not my opinion, you dunghead. So we'll figure it out a little bit later on what the truth is. But yeah, yeah, we will. We will. We'll see. you know, I'll tell you, because I, but I'll just tell you right now going into that, about the weekend itself. So it was a disaster is what happened. I will tell you that now, AM, well, I'll tell you afterwards, because I don't want to ruin the story. So we go to the city a little early. I took the family with me to see Wicked for Good. So we went and we went to AMC,

Lincoln Square, it was where he went. Nice. So we went early. So we went early. and we we ate at this diner that was out there. It was nice. We had some eats. The little one was craving a hot dog. So she got a hot dog at the, at this diner. Loved it.

It was a good little diner. It's been there since a guy told me 1962 or something. Wow. So I'd been there for a long time. So then we got there a little earlier to the screening. And my wife was, I think he was shopping at one of the stores.

And so the two of us, the three of us, went, sat down. And I got the kids. popcorn we're ready and I was like good this movie's only 215 because the last one's 245 and I just want to right 2 15 so I said all right let's let's do it so we watch the movie I'll go my thoughts on it in a little bit and so we finish and we got to catch the train back right so I'm like all right do I have enough time I got to shoot my out of the theater reaction do that

during the movie my little one is like a sweeps addict right and she yeah yeah she took her some of her Halloween candy with her. And so during the movie, she's like, dad, she's next to me on purpose because she knows she's sitting away from my wife. My wife's going to give it the shutdown. So she hands me over this thing. And I'm like, okay, enough for that. So I take my keys and I open the thing. And I'm like, here you go. There you go. So then end of the thing comes. And the reaction, I shoot it. It was a really cute reaction. They popped in at the end of it and said, but then as I'm walking, we rush into the train. I realize it had no sound.

The reaction. The reaction had no sound. And I was like, I have no idea why I did everything normal. Did the same thing again. So I go and we're at Grand Central. So I said shooting it there. And I'm like, all right, it's coming out good. Right as I'm about finished, the audio for the train guy blasting right into the thing, ruins it.

I'm like, and I try four different times. He keeps doing it. I'm like, so I go into the side, finally get it done, get on the train with enough time, make it back 40, 40 minutes. Right. So that's where it gets interesting. Okay. That's what it gets. Okay. All right.

We're more. Let's go. Worse. So we get out now, remember, the little one usually goes to sleep around 9.15, 9.30 is a late night for it. So it's around 10.30 already. And we knew it was going to be a little later. Right. So right as I get off, it's like Ralphie from Christmas story, except and I say it, I go, I leaned down on my knee and I go,

fuck my wife goes what's wrong I go I am 99.9% sure that I left my keys in that theater oh no no you put it in your bag

I'm like I didn't I opened up her fucking candy and I put it in the thing and I left my keys there and she's like no no you got to check so I'm checking

and I dropped my car at the station where it was. So I'm like, no, I have to stop looking because I know. I know that I left them in that cup holder. I know that I did. So we then go and now it's a disaster. Now I had, now, because I don't have my car key. My wife did not bring her keys with her.

Right, right. So we are now, no, I don't have keys to my car. I don't. What? Or your house. Anything. Anything. What?

fast forward real quick we've we we get a revealed after this that my wife did have my car key in her purse but did not realize it so we took an Uber anyway could have taken the car home but it doesn't really matter gotcha so we get back you have to I'm climbing up john I'm on the roof trying to get into it like the good news is my my house is a sealed zone can't get into it but I'm like if I keep trying I took a ladder I stole the neighbor's ladder next door he left it out grabbed it my oldest is holding it for me. I'm like, I can't die tonight. Because the angle I'm at,

I'm going to, it would have been over for me. I don't care how much I'm in the gym or not. My body's not going to do the things that Spider-Man would need to do in order to get into this house. Yikes. So, we had to replace the lock.

Right. Oh, wow. Horrible. In general, cost me expensive. Yeah. Pretty penny. It wasn't great. No, but it's replaced. So then I said to my wife, I'm like, I'm going back tomorrow morning to that theater because I'm trying to call AMC. Yeah. I'm calling them.

They're not picking up. The automated system, I can't get through. Right. So my wife goes, there's no world where your keys are going to be there. It's a massive theater. It's a huge theater. There's no world. I'm like, I have to go.

Right, right. So 9.30 in the morning, I wake up, I go. The first showings at 10 o'clock. So I get there at 10, 10. I walk in and here's this woman and I'm like, all right, here we go. I'm like, come on, let's go. I'm like, I'm either going to leave here in a really good mood

or I'm going to be fucking pissed off and have to replace everything, right? So I walk in and here's this woman and I tell her the whole story. She's like, okay, it's tough. You know, people lose stuff all the time, but let me check. So she calls up Sarah to see. And she calls and she on the phone, she's like, they said they found keys last night.

She goes, but I don't want to get hopes up because people lose keys here all of the time. Wow. Wow. So I go, I understand. I understand. So she's like, so she calls up, I'm waiting. And this is a huge theater.

So I'm waiting. The anticipation is killing me. And I'm waiting. I'm sitting there waiting for it. And finally, this woman comes down. She's got these keys in her hands. And she walks over. And there's this heart key chain on it.

I'm like, this is not good. My heart sinks. I'm like, that's not it. I look. I go, those are the keys. She's like, oh, no, these are mine. I want to check the back. All right.

So she walks out. And they're there. And I'm like, I said, this is my favorite theater. And I tried to find the usher who found it. And I didn't know who found it is. I wanted to give me a reward. I was in that, I was like in that kind of mood. So, and I said, all right, I can't give the usher.

But I will buy concessions for people. The next time I come in here just to do it. And AMC Lincoln Square is not my favorite theater. Honest people. So they could have thrown it in the trash. Totally. Could have just, you know, somebody else. But he did, he or she did the right thing.

Right. And did it. So that's, that's, that's my, that's my story. So I was in a good mood. So at least, you know, it would have been a big loss if I had to replace that lock and then, you know, also lost my keys. So I know, apparently this dropped the live action teaser from Moana. Oh. Wow. But, uh, I'll watch it after. Yeah. Well, listen, we're getting older. So, you know, we forget things. That's just kind of how it goes. So I've trained myself now because I hear you. I train myself now to pat my two legs and whatever other pocket I might have to make sure my phone, my wallet, my key ones are in there because I've left my phone in movie theaters three times over the last year. I did that. I did that recently, but caught it quick. Yeah. Caught it quick because it was for running man, actually. Caught it quick. But like, I don't normally, I don't do that because of what you said.

Yeah. But I was off my game because I had my family with it. Yeah, of course. You know, and we're picking up, we're picking up, like, things that they bought and the kids trying to pick up the shit from the kids and everything. And I was just, and I'm trying to get to the end of the theater reaction. People have to go to the bathroom. I'm like, it's, it's, I wasn't able to balance it in the way that I normally do. It was my fault because I didn't, I was just treating it as a normal kind of, you know,

the way that I do it. Maybe if you'd gotten your reaction, like if that had gone off the first time well, you'd have gotten to the mental process of check of your keys quicker. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe.

Maybe. But a lot of things inspired for you to be in this. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know. Either way, it was like, it was, it was, but I, look, as long as I got them, it's my whole entire life is on that freaking thing.

I could have replaced it, but it would just been a pain in the ass. So anyway, AMC Lincoln Square is now one of my favorite theater of all time. So jumping into Wicked, man, like, Wicked, for God, I can't, like, I think there's still a review embargo, so I just give my, my thoughts on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, quick ready. Look, I, when I saw the first one, I think I told you, I liked the first one, and when I rewatched it with Sam recently, I enjoyed it a lot more. And I've seen it with my, with my daughter, and I really appreciate it for what it is. maybe it's just what I look for, right? Because, and I said this in my attitude reaction.

This one is less fun. Yeah, this one's darker, apparently. But I don't mind that. I like the emotional moments and the beats all the way through. My little one who loved the first one, I liked it better than the first. My wife liked it better than the first. I don't know where my Vivian, who my oldest is kind of,

she said they changed things to play added stuff, but things that they added not took away, which she was happy with. I didn't know. I like the way they tied stuff into the Wizard of Oz. I like the overall, like just the building. I like Cynthia Arrivo a lot more in this one than I did in the last one. Wow.

Because I think they gave her more to do in this one. She's just like, it, she's, I mean, look, the singing is you can't match the singing. Her notes are incredible in both of them. But in the first one I felt, and I hate to say this, I hate what people say, but I felt like she was acting in the first one. Yeah, Revo. In this one, I feel like she, like, She just embodies.

She's great. And Ariana Grande, who really shines in the first one because of the comedy, there's not, she does, there's comedic moments, but it's not like it wasn't the first. If you like the lighter, more fluffy, fun stuff,

then I think you're going to like the first one better. But if you like the emotional kind of character-driven stuff, I think the second one plays. I disagree with your friend 100% that, that people aren't going to be nominated. People will 100% be nominated for, for this. John, M.

She will be nominated for best. director um there might be some best uh since you will be nominated for best actress and i wouldn't be surprised if harriana gronda get the best supporting yeah i mean i i pissed off some section of the ari grande r ariana grande universe yesterday because i tweeted out that it was cute that gold derby and hollywood reporter all these people think that ariana grande is odds on favor to win not just be nominated to win and i was like come on uh you know uh what's her facing weapons i mean she amy madigan she yeah that's my odds on favorite right now so i just thought it was hilarious and some ariana grande person grabbed it from her fan page and then retweeted it and

got all kinds of hate for you i i said she was great in the first one what what are you all talking about you haven't seen the second one so you don't know exactly but yeah but i saw your friends tweet and i oh yeah eric's a yeah well eric never listen completely different pages eric's a gay film critic i trust eric not a thousand percent so eric says he's disappointed but i'm also going in with an open mind i i like the first one didn't want i didn't think i would like the first one and i really enjoyed it, never seen the musical. Yeah. Oh, I'm curious to see, and I'm seeing it tomorrow night. I'm curious to see if I like it. And you saying

it's darker, you saying Arivo gets more screen time. That excites me about seeing the movie. Definitely. She, she, like, the second she shows up, yeah. It almost feels like a superhero film. And in a way, and not in a bad way. Like, just because her entrance, right, it's like, the way that they build it. And I was, there were certain things that I was curious about with the tie-in of the movie. And I'm like, how are they going to do that?

If the movie does this, I was like, oh, they did it very well. I'm because I didn't I'll be honest I didn't go into it I'm not the person that you're going to be like oh my god he's going to really enjoy this one I'm like it was fine it was fine it wasn't even in my top 10 though the first movie I was raving about it it was fine it's fun this one was I just thought it was really solid I like the more character driven stuff that's just my taste in general yeah what I like better um so yeah so we'll see where you land we'll see where you land yeah um anyway what do you guys think about wicked for good whether you're a fan of it not a fan of it your thoughts in there let us know what you think okay uh we got so many stories with this this do it sniderverse thing we're gonna talk about it in a second because we have so many of these stories but before we do it i've talked about neutral fall and ridge johnny you're looking for for presents for people yeah i got ridge ridge wallet for you because those big clunky wallets they just they just don't do it for me so check out neutral fall check out ridge right back neutral fall was a game changer man i remember when um back in the day we first heard about him

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don't like they were covering um zach snider christopher nolan and the sautis are set back to bring the sniderverse says cosmic book dot news now take that as you wish on the eve of the anniversary of the theatrical justice league release our insiders have reached out with major updates about zach snider the sale of winter brother's discovery and what is now being described as a full play a scenario for the return of the Snyderverse. Winter Brothers Discovery is officially up for sale, and it's no coincidence that Zach Snyder has been posting nonstop DC EU images and liking fan content on Instagram that compares the performance of his films to James Gunn struggling DCU projects. The timing lines up with what we have been told. If the Winter Brothers is sold, James Gunn will be

out as head of the DC studios. This comes from the same insider who told us Daredevil Born again was going to be completely retooled months before the Holly reporter confirmed it exactly as we reported it. It's the same source who has been accurately filling us in on the WBD sale and Zazloff's plans before the trades caught up. Track record speaks for itself. Senniverus in full play for return. Regarding D.C., the message from our insider is clear. The Snaniverse is back in play fully. That means Zach Snyder's returning to D.C., not just for one-off else roles, but for an actual revival of the university. that he started. We're told that Christopher Nolan is also part of the plan to return as executive

producer. Nolan, who backed Snyder on Man of Steel and helped shape the original vision for DC before WB derailed it with studio interference. According to what we have been previously told, it was also Nolan's decision to hand over DC to Snyder. Now, while Snyder has publicly said he wanted to end his DC career with an adaptation of the Dark Night Returns, we're now told that the impending sale of Warner Rose has shifted outright, and he's pivoting towards restoring the Readerverse outright. If that happens, it implies the return of Affleck as Batman, who publicly rejected working with Guns DCU after its announcement and Henry Cavill as Superman. Fans remember Caval's widely seen interview with Josh Harwoods confirming his comeback only for Gun to immediately

upended. Gallagadot has also been visibly active supporting Snyderverse posts. None of this is accidental, even Ezra Miller is making some sort of Hollywood return. Now the Saudi is in the driver's seat. We're told that Saudi Arabia is now the frontrunner to acquire WBD. According to our source, course, they're in the driver's seat with the trillion dollar fund. Here's the critical part. Zach Snyder already works with the Saudis. So Snyder and the UFC partnered with Saudi Arabia's general entertainment authority,

chaired by Turkey Al-Akalish to produce Brawler and up-cutting Snyder film that he's directing, co-writing the Saudis trust Snyder creatively, and he is already tied directly into their entertainment expansion. Our insider says this is exactly why Snyder has been highlighting his Snyder-verse work on social media, the signals aren't random, they're building momentum. Prolled that Warner Brothers as a whole is also signing massive new deals with the Saudis, including Trump and figures connected to Trump's circle like his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, the kingdom wants major entertainment assets, franchises, and major theme park IP.

Snyder and Eof-C have partnered with the countries, you know, that makes it possible, and Snyder finishes his saga with Nolan involved as exec producer. Okay, so let's see this. There's, the source also confirms that Saudis want a massive universal Warner themed park. Full restored center verse lines up with that ambition. Warner Brothers acquisition gives them everything DC, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Universal, and more. Okay, so that's, and then continues on to this, this deal that potentially Saudis are. Yeah.

The next one's in. So lots of, lots of packet, right there. There's so much. All right, we read some of it. What do you think when you hear of? I think there's a lot of things to consider in this report. Look, you know, Matt's stuff, a lot of it, I just kind of take it with a grain of salt because Matt's not always off. It's not often right, in my opinion.

But these things are interesting because I've been hearing from Jeff on the hot mic for a few weeks now that, you know, he doesn't believe the Paramount's going to take WB. And he talks about Saudi Arabia interest. And why wouldn't a country who is trying to essentially wash their prime. from the past through sports washing move into the entertainment world. It just makes all the sense in the world. So I think parts of this are true in that Saudi Arabia is interested.

I mean, the Comcast CEO met with Saudi Arabia last week or something like that or a few days ago. And so the idea of them coming together with a bid for Warner Brothers makes all the sense in the world. The idea that they would go towards the Snyderverse and reboot all that, I just think that's a danger on so many levels. it's such a slap in the face to James Gunn.

Of course, Matt, who has a particular interest in bashing James Gunn says struggling, there's nothing struggling about James Gunn, nothing. There was a, the finale, Peacemaker, Season 2, yeah, it didn't come off great, but people love Superman, broke all kinds of viewing records on HBO Max. People are excited to see what's next. So it's nonsense. There's a small pocket of the fandom that's upset about Gunn, but it's not big enough to overturn things. So I just think it would be dangerous to make this.

kind of change now and go in this direction. You talk about Saudi Arabia being in charge of some of these franchises. That unsettles me. That bothers me considering their track record. And so, you know, again, Kristen, you can't, we're coming to a world where you can no longer remove politics from anything. Everything connected now so much. I'm not trying to, you know, open up that door. It's a fair conversation to have when it comes to this. Yeah. The other side of it is, and I got throwing it back to you, I mean, seems like if Snyder did this, it'd be such a slap in the face to a fellow creative and James Gunn. If he's been doing these little posts and tweets and pictures and stuff,

because he's building up the anticipation for it, and he just took a photo with James Gunn, recorded an animated episode with James Gunn to kind of turn on him like this, I think is an asshole move. So I have to believe, because I like Zach Snyder, and a lot of people like him who work with him, that he wouldn't be doing this. This is just for fun right now. But I don't know it just seems odd that they would even open the door to this what are your thoughts it does um but here's i'm going to start with first because you didn't hear you touch on touch on this aspect of it because i think you touched on all this stuff uh really well yeah the nolan side of it oh yeah i i i don't buy that but here's why i don't buy any probably the same reason you don't yeah um what's his deal

universal yeah right exactly like if i'm universal like why are you getting involved with the one of the one of the thing where you were just like we i thought we i thought we stole you from your ex-girlfriend Yeah, right. Exactly. It's like, what are you doing? Why are you getting calls? I thought it was over. Yeah. Like, what are you doing? Like, it makes sense when you think of how it all ties together. It's not like, wait, why would Nolan get involved? It makes sense. I just don't know why he would do that and say, like, unless he's so close with Snyder that he's like, look, look, this is the other thing to consider as what you're saying with if he is working on a deal like this and how it would be not great. which I agree with, as far as if he is close with gun.

The question is, how does he really feel about how everything went down, right? Yeah. If he felt like, look, this thing got away from me and they took it from me, and we all agreed that he got completely, what they did to him during the time of his tragedy.

Yeah, yeah. And the way that they kind of replaced it was, it was disgusting. What they did to him, it was disgusting. Right. So maybe inside of, and then he had to have, go through, what he did with the Snyder cut and all that.

Yeah. But without publicly saying anything, knowing the way deals go down, he's like, okay, I never wanted to step away from it in the way that Henry Cavill didn't want to step away from it. And if he was like, okay, there's a way from me. If Nolan was like, hey, you got that job and you're doing that stuff with the Saudis, and he's like, hey, Chris, listen, I'm working on this thing with the UFC and with the Saudis over there, and they are really serious about buying Warner brothers.

and they will bring back my stuff and I'll have free reign to do whatever I want. That starts to go, what do I do? I call my, how close am I with, with, um, gun? And what do I say at this point? Now, if the paramount side of things, if it was paramount, I thought gun would be safe. And I said, yeah, yeah, that'd be silly for them to do that. It's got no, got no, got no, uh, dog in the fight. We don't want to do that.

We want to bring on Slander, like him better. That's our thing. And nobody's, and they're not going to care if we're like, hey, why'd you do that? We don't care. Because there will be people who push back against it, no matter what. It might not support your product. But the question is, what do they think is more important or will do better, rather? Yeah.

You know, I still think, I still think, I think that there's a lot of stuff that I really, I love me in a steel. Yeah, me too. I really enjoy Wonder Woman minus the ending, but I really enjoy it. I like the Snyder cut of the Justice League very much so. There were things in the flash that could have worked, right? There were things in there that they're working. The audience was not supporting that storyline and timeline. Right.

Because if they were, the way you could have kept that going is when Gunn and Safran took over was to go support Aquaman 2 more so than, what it did to support the Flash and to support Shazam 2. That would have forced John and Staffran's hand to continue it. If those would have been forced to, because they would have left too much money on the table. Yeah, all those characters, all those actors would have stayed in the DC universe in some capacity

if those films had been successful. Yes, 100% the truth. And I think with the Snyder's... Opcom Man 2 did not make over a billion. No, did not. That is incorrect. Offerman 1 did. But that was a long time ago.

Yeah. And the thing is, people forget, BBS didn't make a billion dollars. That's the reason this whole thing happened with Snyder versus BBS did not do well. And yes, they tried to shove that in. They rushed it or whatever, but it didn't do well. So all the Snyder bros who were going crazy saying this is going to be the way to make all this money, where were you guys when the BBS came out? Like clearly the fandom did not show.

You guys might have showed up, but not enough of the fandom did to get it across the line. to a billion dollars and a Batman versus Superman film should absolutely make a billion dollars. So there's these things that you go like, well, maybe we're looking back on the Snyderverse with this kind of fuzzy, I don't know, fuzzy nostalgia that it was this incredible thing that misunderstood. No, the public responded to it and went to the things that they wanted to go to. It's just that the Snyder Bros became this loud thing. Then they got their Justice League, which I thought was great to be honest. I do and love that and I love that they got it. And I love Snyder's approach to the DC stuff,

because I like the dark stuff, but in the end, not enough people can't. So the same arguments people are making against James Gunn. You can make against Zach Snyder for his Snyderverse. So if this happens, it isn't like all of a sudden that, you know, these films are going to make a billion dollars. Because what if you do pull this move,

you screw over James Gunn, you make this happen, that movie comes out and it makes $500 million. Here's a question. Yeah, well, maybe so. But my question is, it seems like that Saudis with everything that they're buying and the comedy shows

and the WWE stuff and all that the it's you can't even say FU money it's like you don't it's money like oh yeah we bought that thing for you know trillion dollars whatever it was it's Apple money on steroids

on steroids and it's and so like so when you say oh they get hey we just got note that Zach Snyder's movie cost $200 million dollars to make and it only made 400. Like, okay, I made 400.

What's the next one? They very well might be. Right. We didn't make any money on it. Yeah, but we own Batman. Right. Like, that's the kind of money that you can have.

Like, when you're, when you're Warner Brothers now, you need everything to be performing. Yeah, okay. If you have that kind of money, like, yeah, the theme parks is another part of it. Like, okay, great,

but we're going to, we're going to build a theme parks. There's a lot more that comes to it when you have that kind of money. It doesn't mean that you should just do stupid business, but it just means that okay we like working with Zach Snyder

yeah I don't know there is a lot of merit to the you know report because minus the no one thing that's the only thing to me

that stands out like I just don't understand why he would get involved in this unless he's just so close with Snyder that he just wants to help his friend out but I just think that we can stay inside of this story here

is that the fact that the Saudi Arabia is entering the mix here. This takes my thought of, okay, Paramount's going to get it. I don't know anymore. Because Ellison can play a lot of the

big boys here. Yeah, but can he compete against that? I don't know. Let me kind of continue on here in the report from Dark Horizons about the PIF entering the Warner Mix.

And a few days ago, news came that Saudi Arabia's public investment fund is reportedly exploring a partnership with Comcast to bid for Warner Brothers. Puck News seemingly broke the story, though the rumor has been swirling on social media for a few days before that and alleged suggested a major all-cash formal offer

was being made. Comcast CEO, Brian Roberts, reportedly traveled to Saudi Arabia recently, where he met with PIF officials and touring the upcoming entertainment mega-city, Guadaya, which is expected to house a universal brand at theme park. Saudi-backed acquisition by Comcast would certainly make the current active bidding field

even more intense with Paramount Global Skydance, remaining a leading contender while streaming giant Netflix is still hovering. The prospect of Netflix buying Warner Bros. Discovery has been described as a worst-case scenario, according to one regional theater exhibit of the rap, the concern being that under Netflix beat theatrical properties like DC and horror franchises like The Conjuring could become streaming first. Saudi Arabia's PIF certainly has been making significant pushes into global entertainment. The fund was part of the consortium that acquired EA in September for $55 billion.

It took a few days, but news suddenly exploded again on social media in an unexpected way and within a very specific fan on the Snyder Bros. But they hope that such an acquisition could somehow live to return to the DCEU. Preliminary non-binding bids for Warner Bros. are due by this coming Thursday, November 20th. I mean, this is, this is serious stuff now. Yeah. Like, it's, I would have, Vegas odds would have had me. I, I had, I would have put money on Paramount getting it.

I would have, yeah. I would have been like this. And then like, like, Saudi's coming in and putting a bit. I wouldn't like this, John. Right back into my pocket. Oh, yeah. Because I didn't even see that coming. I didn't even think that was a possibility.

Yeah. Yeah. Because it's like, is it a risk, though? Because traditionally, and not to say this is, I don't know, I want to see where you land here. Studio has been the kind of American thing. Yeah. And this changes things dramatically if it's not.

And as you were saying, like, what does that mean for the direction? People were thinking about like Paramount, if Paramount bought, you brought this up. Like Paramount bought it and then they bring in gun like, I don't like your politics and want you to do this. Right. What are they going to do? Right.

So I know you spoke on it a little bit, but how, what does this mean if they do get it? What does it mean for the studio system in general? I think this is, I mean, Matt Bellany on Puck, he has been sounding the alarm about the legitimate death of Hollywood. And by death, he doesn't mean that it's over. It's more like the changing of the guard, where, as you said, Christian, the idea that,

studios are like American-owned things and very much American. Those things, those days are over. It's moving very close to a global situation where other entities can come in and purchase a movie studio and do the things that they want to do with these franchises. And they see the money, the cash-a, it's just like a sports team. They can see the lot, they see the possibilities of what they can do and how the money can increase in their investment. And so it's not a surprise.

Jeff is the one, as I said on Hot Mike. He's the one that mentioned a few weeks ago on Hot Mike. and I was like, I didn't even thought about Saudi Arabia for this possibility like you said earlier. And so the fact that Jeff has been hitting this drumbeat on hot mic, and then this news comes out today, it makes me think that, you know, he'd been hearing rumblings from people that he knows that this was a real possibility. So the Comcast guy going over there and meeting with them makes it all the more interesting as a possibility. Now, I don't know what the parameters and the rules would be with Saudi Arabia coming in and buying order brothers and what they would do with these franchises. what's the angle? You can't ignore the politics of a country like Saudi Arabia, a country like Saudi

River buying these, you know, franchising these properties are supposed to appeal to four quadrant people. What is the approach they're going to do? And so there's a lot of questions around it, but I certainly think it's very, very possible now. Jeff even mentioned Elon Musk could come in and jump in at some point with all the money he has to try to get a movie studio as well. So the days of like this homegrown movie studios, they get big and they're American born, I think those days are almost done as Bell and he's been saying now for the last few days so is there any world then that uh and not that this is a right thing yeah but is there any world where they go look we we we know basically what you just said we know that if we go this route yeah yeah that we will be

changing it and no longer will this be american owned uh and we're trying that's kind of one of the things that was sold to everybody was that we're going to try to make more american-based businesses is that a chance when we go, okay, the money's good, but it's not worth in a long run. I know that's almost impossible to some, I know, but it's like, well, look, I guess that comes down to if someone offers you that amount, but that's on the table, and then Paramount comes in right underneath it. Yeah. Right underneath it. There's a possibility that we're going to go with Paramount. Right. Unless it's like this is so much bigger than what Paramount is doing than it's up to the board Christian right the people

I mean that's they can launch lawsuits and say when you took the lower bid so you messed with my money right you should have taken the higher bid right that's what a lot of these board members care about is how much how much investment they can get back how much they can get back for the investment they've made and so that's where you look at this whole situation I hear you like you know maybe ethically you go you know what I don't want to sell to Saudi what we got the price up to a really good price I'm going to go with Paramount right which is really

not that much different but you got that much different in my opinion politically politically is it is different but it's but he's still American yeah I guess but you know I think it's significantly different I think it's significantly different

we're going to see but I will say this for the Allison thing I've been really surprised that they a kept the South Park going and B got Daly and Goldstein to come on to Star Trek, which I know we're not talking about but those guys I would not have thought that they would have gone to for a Star Trek reboot.

So that shows me that they understand there's criticisms but they're going to do what's best for business and that's important. So you may be right. Ellison's different. But I'm curious to this idea how people can go, yes, Saudi Arabia is coming in to buy Snyderverse. There's an Israeli actress who's playing Wonder Woman. Do you think they're going to be okay with this?

So there's all these questions. Right. they go around. Again, you cannot ignore the politics anymore. Those days are over. You have to be aware of what's going on. Doesn't mean you have to have a stance and get into fights, but you just have to be aware of these things that are happening because they are part of the equation when you look at this. And Saudi you may look at this and go, you know what? What's the smarter move? Because some of their sports teams, they do the same thing. They come in, people think, oh, they're going to do all this, but they actually don't. They try to adhere to the fans.

They try to make sure they're satisfied. Yeah, they've done it in a number of sports areas, Newcastle, other places. They're like, we have to cater to the fans. fans and understand what they want and do our best to put a good product on the on the on the on the field that people want to see and I think the same thing will be the approach here entertainment wise but I do think some of the censorship some of the politics will bleed into their decisions creatively it could I mean it certainly could right and like I think that that's probably the case in any time anyone any leaders take over it's like they they have ideas of what they want to do and it's like there's sometimes that you get leaders that say we're going to lean on

creators to do stuff. There's other people who push their own agendas out there and there's other things and there's times where you know, you look at in on the very smaller scale of my opinion on the way that Kathleen Kennedy is is running things. Yeah. Now it's like okay you know I have my idea of the way movie making was back in you know the 80s 90s and I'm going to do that with directors and it wasn't working but you keep doing it it's like no no no you need the creatives around to do that and there's no difference in

when someone's buying something over. Yeah. You can't, if you're not a creative in that way, you just have the cash to do it. You buy, like, always the smart things are always the smart leaders are the ones who say, I've got the money and I know that I don't have the creative thing. But what I'm going to do, I'm going to go get the best. Yeah, and they've done that at Paramount. They really have for the last short amount of time. So you're right, Christian, on that end, yeah.

If you do, I mean, because like, you don't, like, if you've got the money and you know how to actually, if you really want to make money, the smart thing is to not to push. your things. You can have ideas of what your morals and what you want your company to be represented as and you can do that way and you can suggest to certain things, but you also know, look, we're bringing in so and so. Yeah. And they don't align up with me. They're going to make me some money. You've got to be able to do that in the way that I think that's why I think Paramount will keep James Gunn on and let them finish that contract and see if I'm Ellis and I'm going, look, I'm not going to fire you because we don't line up together. What I'm going to do is go with your plan, but I'm telling you right now, I'm giving you things. three movies or two movies. And if they don't hit this, then we got to have a talk. Yeah. Whether it's continuing your thing or scrapping it. But I'll give you three, I'll give you two or three movies.

You don't just get rid of the guy. Now, if you're a soddies, you don't give a shit. Well, we don't want, we never wanted that. We don't care about that. We like working with Zach Snyder, and that's what we're going to do. Right. It's going to be, this is going to be a story we're going to be talking about for quite a bit. I mean, and it's Snyder's not on a run right now.

That's the problem, too. I mean, Rebel Moon movies were not good. And I'm a massive Snyder fan, and I can tell you they were not. Slow motion. Slow motion city is what they call that. Yeah. And even his sequel to the Batista zombie one was not that great. So it's not like he's on a run right now.

They're like, oh, yeah, we got to give him stuff. He's not on a run. And so there's a danger as well. Like even when he's got all this money, Netflix threw the whole damn boat at him. He still is not making good work. And so that's an issue to, so him coming back doesn't necessarily mean the Snyderverse is going to be amazing. And that's another part of it as well.

You know? It's the truth. It's the truth. And I guess the last thing before we put this to bed is that the Netflix side of things, right? Because there's no world Netflix gets it. There's no world. No. No. They either just top the price. I think what you talked about, there's no way they would go with Netflix if they can get away with it. Because they fear the Netflix will just put everything on streaming, which is what Sarando says he wants to do. Well, I mean, the question would be, and what I would love to ask him, you know, behind closed doors is, okay, well, if we actually are serious about this and we get it, are we buying Warner Brothers and running Warner Brothers? Or are we just taking Warner Brothers, shutting it all down and then making everything Netflix?

Because if you're shutting it down and making it Netflix, then you're probably going to be streaming stuff and that you stick to the model. If you're buying Warner Brothers, well, then you could have something where you kind of eliminate that problem that they always have. We're like, okay, Greta Gerwig comes in for a meeting. And she goes, I don't want to do Narnia on streaming. I want to do it theatrically. They're like, okay, well, then you're going to make it under the Warner Brothers League. Yeah.

You're not going to get as much money as you would get from Netflix. That's the rub, is that we'll give you X amount to make it on streaming for us in Netflix, or you can have theatrical. You'll have it, and then it'll live on, maybe they take all the Warner Brothers streaming stuff, put it on Netflix and all that instead of running two different streaming platforms. Again, this is a, if they get it, they have, I don't think they're serious at all.

I think they're just like, okay, Paramount, we're going to put a bid in and then we're going to make you pay more, and now the Saudis are going to up that too. So I think eventually we're going to hear Netflix just kind of do the Homer Simpson into the bush. Yeah, because, I mean, they only want half of it. They only want the movie and TV stuff. They do not want CNN and all those other networks.

Netflix doesn't want anything to do with that. So it's all about Warner Brothers going like, do we want to separate and then sell them separately? And the theme parks and yeah. Here are these people want to come in and buy it all. They want everything. They want everything. So I got to put them as the top contenders right now.

I'd be honest with if they're serious about it, this is things are going to be very different in about a month from now, I think. And we're going to hear, we're going to hear news in about a month. All right. Well, what do you guys mean? That's a hell of a story. I'll tell you that in general.

Both the idea that Saudis could get Warner Brothers, the idea of Snyder potentially coming back so much in there. Get your thoughts out there, whether it's in the live chat, whether it is in the replay of this one or on the Clips Channel, almost at 15,000 on the Clips channel now. Appreciate that for all you guys. And again, Apple Podcasts to Spotify. John, you know, like last week, and I saw you like the post.

We hit number two on the Spotify charts. Amazing. TV and film. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. Everybody involved with the show. Yeah, for sure. So that was good stuff.

So I appreciate that for everybody. Currently, last week, Mike and Roxy took the win. Roca is giving them a run already and making them catch up to him. He's already got 33. And we haven't gotten to the question, Jim. 33. So what can we do here today?

If John can hit over 100, we shall see. Yeah, come on, guys. But we'll see. Capes and Cal's. didn't have an opportunity last week. We were supposed to have, Jen Sturger was supposed to be in on Friday. She was in town for a comedy thing. She was going to come in. But we realized the last minute that it would have taken her like an hour and a half to get here and then an hour and a half back that by the time

she would have missed and been stressed out for her show. So she's going to do something when she's in here in spring. Nice. Yeah. So we missed that. So I did the show by myself on, but but Cape's missed out on Friday. So maybe they'll get a shot of redemption. But we'll see. We'll see. Yeah. Okay. We got another one here too. And we got our first images here of Legend of Zelda. There's the live action Legend of Zelda movie that is coming now. People are excited about it.

And here's the first shot. Look at Link. Look at that. That looks great. Yeah, it does, actually. I love that. Looks very Lord of the Ringsish. Yeah, I like it. Following set video leaks on Friday night, Sony and Nintendo have now officially released first look photos of Benjamin Evan Ainsworth as Link and Bo Braggison as Princess Zelda in the live action, The Legend of Zelda film. Project began filming in New Zealand, very smart. Earlier this month, with the shoot expected to run for six months through to April next year.

The footage showed Australian actress Dyshin Lachman, with speculation being that she's playing Impa, Lachman still has not been confirmed. Story centers on the Young Link and Zelda, who attempt to save the kingdom of Hyrule from the evil Gannon. Derek Connolly, T.S. Nolan, are penning the script for the film which West Ball is directing, will be released in cinemas on May 7th, 20207. Zelda series creator Shigero Miyamoto is producing the film alongside

Avirad, Ball, and Joe Hartwick, Jr. Here are some of those images. I will tell you this, John. Go ahead. I'm going to make a rough, rough thing. I'm going to see a trailer, but I'm saying right now, this movie has the potential to easily make

a billion dollars. Wow. A billion dollars. This movie has the potential. Now, I have not seen a trailer. I've heard nothing else. I am telling you that I believe if this movie is done correctly, this will be the next big franchise and this movie will make a billion dollars. Listen, I love West Bell as a director. So I don't know if I can take the billion dollar bet, but I can consider the possibility for now. That's all I'm saying. It's possibility right now. I like these shots. I like these shots. I don't know how big Zelda will be crossing over live action. Will people rebel?

against it. I don't know how people are going to feel about it. You know, so that's my question. Like Super Mario Brothers, that's an animated thing. That makes much more sense that it made a billion dollars. You go this route. There's a lot of people that would be like, not my Zelda or doesn't what I thought. So we'll see. I think West Ball, if you watched that last apes movie, that movie was fantastic. And he's making move. He knows how to do these franchises right. He stays, I think true to the essence of it. And even the fact that shooting in New Zealand, very smart. Yeah, yeah.

Very smart. It looks, I mean, it looks solid right away. I get that kind of epic feel from it. And if it is good, I'm saying, if they do it the right way, it really has the potential to be the next big, huge franchise. I'm not there yet. I got to see a trailer, but I'm telling you potential this movie could be mad. I love, I mean, immediately seeing those images.

I go, oh, okay, get it. That's Zelda. That's link. Yeah. I'm in. I'm in. And I'm not, it wasn't even a massive Zelda fan. Not that I was not a fan or just was, it was, it came,

my brother was really into it. And my daughter actually is really into the recent ones. And I just remember my old office in LA, and I would come in and she'd like, can I play Zelda? She'd go in and she'd play Zelda. And I was terrible at the game where she was doing. But it was just, I was like, this is such, it could be a live action movie.

And here we are. You can do so many movies. You do so many. Yeah. No, 100%. If it all, if it all works out the way it is. It's like they're talking about some world galaxy, spinning off and doing all these other characters.

So, yeah, you can totally get this way. You know, it reminds, I mentioned this the other day on the Friday show, and I'll mention it again. You know, there's reports that are coming out about Masters of the Universe. Oh, yeah. About that they were, you know, that it's going to do really well and people are going to love it. I had a source that saw it.

It was a Masters fan said, it's like Love and Thunder. Oh, no. That said it could very, but the source did say, could very well play to a casual audience, which is maybe what they're looking for, but said it was very, very corny,

going more so into the 80s cornyness than the 2002 stuff. And that, to me, makes me say, I sent them, the Godfather you broke my heart thing. Because it was like, you know, I was finally getting excited for this movie, and now I'm not.

What's the odds on the he man working out at Golds? Jim and one of the shots there. Oh, God. I don't know. Probably pretty good. But I just, I'm just so, they, they said that it's, that there were, there were times that it felt like a Saturday night live movie. Oh, no.

And I was like, that's, that's horrible to hear, like really horrible to hear. So, uh, I'm not happy about it at all. Um, but I'll tell you who is happy. Yeah. Who like magic movies because that, that, uh, now you see me. Did you see it? I know, I've never seen any of the films. Oh, you've been seen any of them. Okay.

Yeah, because I think I missed it. Lionsgate is interesting because you got to write to Lionsgate with enough time to get to the screenings. They don't have like the press list. So I'm like, so I'm like, I forgot by the time I did. They were very nice. They were like, oh, you know, we ready had our screenings here. They give code to go see it in the theater. I'm like, I don't go to the movies on the weekends.

I just don't do it. So I'll save it. But it didn't matter whether I saw it or not. People did see it. And I did pretty damn good. So we're going to look at like we always do. We always cover the box office here on Monday. The third, now you see me, tops the global box office.

Let's go. So, oh, who's in that? Oh, is that, who's that on the left? That is Ariana Greenblatt. Oh, okay, okay. Magician heist thriller. Now you see me, now you don't. topped the global box office this weekend, pulling in 21.4 domestically and 54.2 million

internationally for 75.5 million opening weekend hall. China, which has the most skewed Hollywood films this day, has a surprise success with the film with the movie debuting to 21.7. Running Man also debuted in nearly 60 markets, but stumbled out of the gate. Film just taking 17 million domestically, 11.2 overseas, making its global 28.2 million. Predator Badlands fell to third domestically in the second week, title pulling in a further 13. steep drop, though, of 68% internationally pulled an additional 16.1 drop of 54. Domestically, it's 66.3 million is the best of the series to D. Its global total of 136.3 million is the third best behind only the 160 million haul of the predator and 177 million haul of alien verse predator.

Regretting you in Blackphone 2,000, rounded out the top five domestically with a 4 million, 2.7. Newcomer Keeper bombed on release in 7th place with 2.5, to which I say, what is Keeper? That's good Perkins horror. Oh, right, right. That's when people said it looked really, really solid. I do not. Okay. Didn't it come in on streaming also? No, not yet.

Oh, we didn't. Okay. Norimbrook held well dropping just 33 for six place in the second week with 2.6 million. Die my love saw a steep drop with the numbers for Christy. Second weeks weren't even reported out. Finally, Paul Thomas Anderson, one battle after another crossed the 200 million worldwide mark this weekend. Thanks for further 1.4 million overseas. Okay.

So I'm just going to throw up the box. office. Is it? Mojo. And let's second. So how much, John, can you look at how much did now you see me? Now you don't.

How much did that cost to make? I'm going to. I think it was only 120. Okay. All right. So it's got a shot to, I mean, 75. And people are,

why don't know what people are surprised. This franchise has just definitely done pretty well. Yeah, that's what I, yeah, it costs 90 million to make this. Okay. So it's going to, yeah, right. 90 million. It's already made 75. It'll, it'll make its money back for sure.

And, and it's, it was smart. move. Now, this is the movie that we were talking about. We'll dive deeper into it. Now, this movie, how much of this movie cost? I think $1.50, something? Hold on. Or $120. 120.

And so, just in comparison, now you see me made 75 or whatever the hell it did worldwide. This movie's only made 28. 110. It costs $1.10. This is going to be a disappointment and potentially a big failure. I don't know why you can go right $110 million

in 2025. What's strange, though, is that that's not that big of a budget for that kind of movie. The question is, there's a lot of question, and we'll get into it for sure. Predator Badlands, 136, probably end its runner about 150. Yeah, I'm disappointed by that. I thought it would have stronger legs. Again, I think the mistake was dropping this in the fall. If they dropped this in the summer, it would have made money in hand over fist.

Depending on maybe, it just depends on what it was going up against. I think regretting you is a big story, though. 82 million. Yeah, I think it was made for 25. Yeah. Over last week. It's a silent hit. Blackphone 2 so far has made overall 127, which is again pretty damn good.

But you have to bring up these these charts here for the running man. We said, Nuremberg again. Yeah. Pretty solid. I saw like it. I loved it. Me too. I really liked it a lot.

I thought it was going to be cheesy. Ramby Malick and Russell Crow out hamming each other. it was not bad at all. No, and I think, I think Remy was a little over the top at times. Hmm. I thought Russell Crow should be nominated. Russell was great. So was Michael Shannon, I thought.

Yes. Michael Shannon was really good, too. Keeper aided Sarah's oil, Chancel, where is Christy? Christy's not even, holy crap. It wasn't even reported. That's crazy. That's crazy.

Too bad. I really thought that the movie, to me, was solid. I think she was phenomenal. So, and I'll tell you, I don't, again, we don't get, I don't want to get politics and things too. Here we go. Does anybody seem more scorned and like, ew, why did you tweet that than Ruby Rose? That was horrible.

I disagree. Oh, my God, dude. Even Christy Martin's like, no, no. She's an ally of mine and she's actually, Christy Martin stood up. Ruby Rose, to me, seems the most, every time she tweets about something, whether it was her times on the show that she had and she had problems there and everyone else. She was the problem. From what I've heard, people that I've known work with her,

she was the issue. And it seems every single time, and she's not a good actress. She's not a good actress. No, I know. She's not a good actress. She's not a good actress. She's terrible. And I agree with you.

Usually Ruby's way out and whatever. But you need people like that to kind of shake things up sometimes. But like, I think where she has a little credibility is if, because we can't, we can't verify this. But she, right now. But she said when she saw the original script, the storyline was much more focused. on Christy Martin's homosexuality and her gayness. And that was a big part of her story.

If you watched the documentary, it's a big in the movie, though. It's not as big as it could have been. And in my opinion, I think that was one of the criticisms I had about the movie is they only kind of lipstick touched on her lesbian stuff. And I think they should have explored that much more. There was much more material. And she's claiming that there was more of that. And that maybe she's implying that Sydney came in with her people and tried to kind of tone that

down and make it more of a domestic violence survivor type of story. And look, you got to get the film made. She's the one that's going to supposedly you thought people are going to get back. Dude, he literally, the domestic violence literally happens. Of course. Because she's gay. Well, yes, yes, of course. But her fighting, her coming to terms with that and battling with it and, you know,

having those things that, none of that was really explored as strongly as it could have been. So by the time when it happens, you're like, oh, this is great. but it should have been much more inspiring for her to kind of embrace who she really is. And they didn't explore that enough initially. You see here with a girl in the beginning, her teenager. Yeah, but even the whole thing that they do with what, with Katie O'Brien? I mean, I mean, but that's all the way at the end, right? That's almost all the way at the end.

And so there's much more that could. And her mom is being set up as someone who hates her gayness. That's Merritt Weaver is a great actress. There's much more that could have been done between the two of them. So, listen, I get people with dishes as Ruby, totally respect that. But none of us saw the original script. And so Ruby may have a point. I'll just tell you, I think we both agree that she wouldn't have made the movie better.

Well, she wouldn't have been the star. I mean, she was going to play one of the girlfriends. But I agree. She's whatever she would have played. She's just not good. Yes, agree, agree. I don't get no argument from me. But I have not seen, I haven't seen the script.

So I don't know. I don't know in general. I just felt like it was unwarranted at that point. I mean, calling her a cretan, I think, was wrong. That's what I'm saying. That's my whole point. You don't win anybody. over that so you're agreeing with me my that was so what she said yeah that's what I'm saying

yeah I'm not saying she shouldn't have spoke that who the fuck am I to say that like course she should if you if you if you if you if you if you if you if you if you would have said look I read the original script I think that they from what they did they made changes that I don't think were yeah I think that I think they took away from the essence of who she really was and I would have liked to see more I didn't like that I don't like for me it wasn't for me but I respect that yeah but calling names just because you clearly okay politics again, you represent this. You think she represents this.

So you're taking your shot here. That's all that was. And that, to me, seemed yucky. I don't disagree with you. And you have a gay actress in the film in Katie O'Brien. Right. And I think if you, but Katie hasn't said anything, right? And if you watch Katie in the interviews, she looks a little like kind of.

So I think there is a feeling that the storyline wasn't. Maybe. But again, it's all about how you. That's it. That's the approach. That's it. Then we're in the same page. 100%.

my face on that 100. Okay. So as far as box office goes and the rest of it, man, like we discussed this, you and I, like the running man, right? And you were on your way in as I was leaving. Yeah. And I, you know, I just, you just said, what did you think? And I said, I'm pretty much on the same page of other people. And you're going to, and you went in and you looked like you were on the same page too. Yeah. And it just looked, it didn't know what it wanted to be. In general, there's some really, I agree with you. There's some fun stuff. stuff in there. There's some really good moments and it's like, oh, they can't focus on that. And I can't remember there was a, one of the commenters had said it, and I agree. It's like,

there's two movies in there. There's the Edgar Wright director for hire movie that's in there, where it's just like they directed him and they hired him to direct this piece and to do that. And then he did it. Then there was an Edgar Wright movie. And it was combined and it didn't work. Like the Michael Serra stuff, like you said, I think he's great. He clearly works with him really well. but that scene without explaining too much with with the mother what movie was that yeah yeah yeah what movie was that like i was like what are we doing here and like she's running through the hallway it was ridiculous yeah and then there's other times you're like oh that's that's deep and and it's really working and i didn't think he had and and i really like who was who played his wife because she was in

yeah she and she didn't have any chemistry whatsoever no not at all at all again and this is the for me the problem with the movie and i think some people going, you guys don't know what you're talking about. I saw the people line in. It's like, no, we kind of do. You guys are just ignoring stuff because you want to like it. And the thing is, the, they established that he's got a wife and a kid. We have no time with them together to really establish that relationship, care about that relationship, want to cheer him on fighting for his kid.

It's so surface one dimensional that it's frustrating. And the way they start out the film, he's already in an issue. He's already been fired from four jobs. He's already angry about the system. We don't see him progress to that point. They get into the running man way too early in the movie. It should have been like 20, 25 minutes in the movie. Then you get into all of that because it was still a two-hour movie for God,

two hour 15-minute movie. There's no reason to be that. It felt long too. Yeah, it felt long. So you establish the relationships. And you explore that more so that when you get into the running man, the stakes are high. And you're feeling all of that that's going. And his moments of anger, his moments of breaking the rules,

his moments of being, you know, flicking things off or being funny as the crowd changes in support of him, you're on board, you're changing in support of him. There's a much more challenging, interesting, and complex movie that it was here, but they didn't find it. Yeah, it was there, though. And so, and I think we're both on the same page

of Glenn Powell, right? And there was, it wasn't necessarily even Glenn Powell in this. I think there were a lot of times Edgar Wright asked a lot of these people to overact. Like there's a lot of screaming and yelling at times. There's other times. There's some really great moments, but there's a lot of screaming and yelling happening. That's so unnecessary at this point. Hasn't built to anything. I think Glenn Powell's really good in the movie. I think he's really good. I still don't know. And I think that we've already seen this.

I don't think he's a movie star. There's different. Do I think he's a star? It's a good. It's a good. So we think movie star as far as the build of like what a movie star is and like, oh, there's Glenn Powell. He's going to be that you know the movie's going to be. You know the movie's going to be huge if he's in it. I mean, there's not a lot of people like that in general out there right now, but I don't think he's the guy. I think he's good in the movie. I think you should, I think they should have waited and kept him doing things like big standout roles like Top Gun Maverick and other things and let him build a little bit more instead of throwing him out there right now. And it's like people aren't responding to it clearly. I just think Glenn is, is Glenn is just one of those

people that there are people who just like who he is and they will look past some of the limits of his Yeah. And I think there are some people like you and I who kind of notice it when he's limited in certain scenes. Like I thought his action sequences, he acted those really well. Me too. I agree. I even thought the monologue at the end that's very reminiscent of the diehard monologue with Bruce Willis in the bathroom talking about it. I thought that was really well, I thought that was really well, I thought that was really well, I thought that was really. I think that was overacting or hamming it up. But I think that was egg a right note. I don't think that was a right note. I don't think that was a part of it. Like as an actor, you go like, oh, no, it's the right thing. This isn't the right approach. So I think some of Glenn's limits were exposed in the movie. But overall, I liked him, but I agree with you. I think he's one of these guys that Hollywood tries to make a leading man,

but isn't necessarily a leading man. And you can argue. Hasn't earned it yet. Yeah, hasn't earned it. It was Twisters about him, or was it up? No. I actually think it was more about Daisy Edgar Jones. I think she was the star of that movie.

I thought she was the star of that film. I thought he was good in it in that role, but he wasn't the reason you went to see it. Um, someone said it in the comments and I agree. He got pushed in the main event too quick. Yeah. Oh, yeah, he's the Jay Usa. He's made me the Jay Usa. He should.

I mean, he, they didn't give him a long enough run with the IC title. Like, let him run with the IC title for a little bit before you give him the, the WrestleMania main event. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how the Chad Powell, I haven't watched any of the episodes. I don't know. I heard it's great.

I heard it's really good. Yeah. He's never bad. He's never bad. I, like I said, I think. you're running into the Sam Worthington of it all and the Giac Courtney

you're running into that because it's like Anna, it's like let's take your time. We like the guy. But clearly you know, this box office will might because that hurts you. That hurts you when you're trying to make this kind of run. Now if it would have

delivered big, then people would have been like, hey, look idiots. We don't agree with you and the numbers show it, but the numbers right now are not showing it. I also think Edgar Wright. There need to be questions about Edgar Wright. Like, I know you guys, some people look at him like he's a member of their family because of Hot Fuzz and Sean was dead.

But, Dave, since Baby Driver, it's not a strong resume. And so we have to start asking questions if maybe Edgar Wright isn't as great as people think he is, or you all think he is, because there are not some good movies on his resume. You know, a lot of bad movies.

There is, but I also, you know, I blame the, who did this one? This was the uni? Who did this? What do you mean? Who did the movie? The studio. Oh, I think it was. Who did this? I don't remember who did it. But I think that the blame should go that way, too, because the reason why is that look at the movies and I don't know if you're watching Welcome to Derry. Yes. I watched a new episode, but yeah. I watched last night. And I saw it. I actually watched a couple days ago. I didn't do reaction of it. I didn't do a review of it because I was, I've been kind of saving it now.

We're watching it with my daughter who's really into it. She's like, she's obsessed with it. right and i really like the show a lot i just watched it chapter one chapter two i like chapter two better the second time i watched it to be honest with you it's still a lot it's not even clearly as good as the first one but it's but as a whole it's it's it's really good then the long walk is another one that i really like so the original do you know the original ending of the book which luke our producer just told me this yesterday do you know the original ending of uh long running man running oh no i haven't read in the long time yeah he's he gets gets control of the plane and he runs it into any runs into the building to show and his family is

toast and he should to show he is uh he's not um you can't control yeah there's no world they were going to do that for a lot of different reasons yeah um a lot of different reasons why they're not going to do that but that kind of dark feeling yeah is what maybe change the ending but what that movie need, I think, if you're going to do that. I don't think Edward Wright's style work for this movie. I think Edward Wright should do some more stuff. But anyway, but people, people enjoy it. Yeah. I'm starting to see the logic of not having him do Ant Man, to be honest with you. Same, especially now. Well, especially the plan was so different back then.

It was like, you could do it in the way that you did Spider-Man when he was hired. Right. Is that it wasn't supposed to be a bake. Once, once the MCU, he, and he said it just wasn't his thing. I love it to go right. I want to say, I still think Baby Driver is his best thing. I love it. Baby Driver is great. I love you. Last night in Soho and now running that. I want to see him do that.

I want to see him do more movies like Baby Driver. Smaller stuff. Yeah. I want to see that kind of. He's, I really like the guy too, so we'll see. But, and then I, and then finally, now you see me, that's very smart business on what they did and how they did it. And you wait another four years and do another one. They'll probably make it.

Can't believe T. I said they were surprised by that. Both those films made $300 million plus. Yeah. I'm not surprised at all. All right. What do you guys make of the, box office. Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. Okay. We're going to get to the question in just a moment

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I see Knives out tonight and then I see Marty Supreme tomorrow. Those are my two. I'm excited for those. Now, did you, you know, I watched over the weekend was Begonia. Did you see it yet? I've not seen Begonia, but I saw Hamnet. Okay.

I saw Train Dreams. Which was a train dream? That's the Netflix one with Joel Edgerton. It's coming out. I think good. A lot of really like. Okay. Okay.

Is that on the app? It is on the, well, you have to request it on the Netflix app. Okay, okay. Preview content. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I liked, I liked a lot of it. I like the lot of it.

Okay. It's, you know what it, it's a complete Yargosos movie. I mean, it just, it just,

and if you love the lobster, I think you're going to, I think people will love it. I'm just, oh, good, good, good. I mean, I just in general, I'm not a lobster.

I don't like lobster. And I'm in the minority on that one. My two still are the favorite and poor things. And I think the reason why I like poor things so much is because of both Emma Stone and Ruffalo are just so incredibly bonkers in that movie. And comedically, it really works. There's a, I'm Jesse. What's his name? Clements.

Plymonds is really good and should be nominated. She should be nominated. It's like I knew where it was going from the beginning. I was like, because it's. Because it's him. I think that if it wasn't him, I wouldn't have known that. But just because it was him, I was like, that's clearly going to be the reveal. But then when this thing ultimately happens at the end, I went, yeah, I liked it. But it's just, but I can see where people, other people were going to love it.

But it's just, I just don't think, you know, there's certain people that certain filmmakers that you're just like, I don't respond in the way that other people do. There are sometimes that, and I'll watch every one of his movies because of the way that the favorite and poor things got me. I'm always going to be looking for that feeling because when I saw poor things, I shut it off initially. I'm like, I'm going to hate this movie. Right, right. And then I loved that. I couldn't shut up about it.

That was just so crazy. And maybe this is one of those ones on a rewatch, but there's some, it, like, it's weird because I think I loved 92% of the movie. Okay. It's the 8% of it. I went, eh.

Come on. Come on. I don't know. Who knows? I don't care. You put my face on the money? That I loved. I loved that.

That was a great cameo. Great cameo. Okay. We got stuff. There's some stuff that inside of this question, there's a few of them that aren't lit up. Okay. There's, I guess, one.

There's only one. Okay, there's one that we missed that didn't come out. John Cross. I'm about four hours early, but I'm sure Roca is going to say Stanter's returning as nonsense. You didn't say it was nonsense. I didn't say it was nonsense.

Not nonsense. Just you didn't think that it would make sense to do. Right. Jacob Leckard. Christian, if you haven't already, you check it out. You should check out Marcel Hernandez's impression of Sebastian from S&L last week. And he nailed it. So I just got it sent to me this morning.

I did watch it. And it was fine. I mean, Sebastian tweeted it out himself. Did it really? Oh, that's great. It's so bizarre, you know, as you guys know, I've known Sebastian for a very long time. I mean, it's funny because we just had Chris Van Bleed in here to, he was on Matt Sarah show to be out this week.

Nice. And he and there's a poster that I have with me and Sebastian and Brett Arons. We went to the Suboba Casino together. And I remember when I was bringing them up, I was like, you know, I was like so Sebastian Minnescalca, he's like, no, just Sebastian. Not saying the last name. He wasn't doing the last name. So I would do, you know, it's like, and I just, I knew him so well. So it was easy to do impression. I was doing impressions in before he was even famous because even my favorite of him was like, you ever see those guys that go, I want to frack a chance. you know cream on top you get a black coffee and you go to work so but I thought I said a great great job for sure he uh and you know you did you got to

cartoon it up a little bit and that's that's kind of what he did I had no idea who he was until I saw bookie and oh really yeah no never saw the stand-up stuff because I mean you there's so many stand-ups sure sure kind of get mixed in so and I saw bookie I loved booking I was so sad when I got canceled. Sebastian is great on that show. Yeah. And it made me want to watch his standups. And so, yeah, I'm a big fan of him. I wanted his movie. I love his movie with De Niro. Yeah,

I tried watching that. He didn't go into like what makes him really fun. They did like a version of him. I don't know. There's so many. But what I would tell you, have you ever seen his Tripoli bit? No, you've done a bit a couple times though. So I got to watch his Chipotle bit is the best. It's the, it's, it really is the best. um Nathan Drake your Sebastian impression is better than Marcellus what

you face changes when you do them too is it because he's what are we talking about you Snyder's coming back he's just here he's back

back to him what Henry Cavill Cavill what's he doing he's cavilling it up flying around Nathan Drake was Ruby Rogers

here part of John Wake too I didn't know she didn't say anything neither was common let's put that on the table I liked common in that movie oh you're crazy I liked him in that movie

this is common's acting and every thing he's in every fucking thing he does anything but he's got some her in that one the world's blowing up so it's all cool man someone's in love with you

that's all cool man I can't act get out of here someone's involved with you brother he's just a smooth brother yeah i wouldn't mess with him ralph taxi driver king and comedy raging bull goodfellas casino gangs in europe i've either departed shutter awful wall street irishman happy 83 wow i still my favorite quotes ever is from uh um leonardo caprio he was talking about both of wall street it's my favorite quote ever and he said i guess at the time he was like almost

80 so he's like he's almost 80 years old and he's still making punk rock loved that Yeah, yeah. I got to see that series that's on Apple TV, the new documentary series on him. I want to watch that four episodes. Wow. Yeah, someone told me about it recently. I haven't seen though. Ralph, all I want is for Sam to watch one battle, seven, shut her.

But I guess so to settle with that Wicked movie. Yeah, we just put the Wicked one out. I think Sam's next two up, though, Ralph, that she got his knives out. She's going to watch Knives Out one and two. Ming's going to watch Frankenstein. Those are going to be those for now. but I bet look we almost did seven but it was just a little too long plus the fact I didn't want Sam going in so we watched Wicked for the first time and is that watched on what do we watch no no no no we watch eternal sunshine in the spotless mind ooh and she had never seen it before and it's only like an hour 45 hour 50 and and it's a and to have that kind of feeling going into a weekend is way better than a feeling she had watching seven so I decided not to him that one.

The head in the box. Right. She did, I knew, that's how I found out she didn't want, she'd never seen it because we were doing, there was some reaction that we were doing. And I go,

what's in the box? And she just looked to me blankly. I'm like, I'm like, you know what that's from, right? She's like, no.

I'm like, you don't know what it's from? She's like, no. And I go, did you ever seen seven? And she's like, no, I've never seen that.

And I was like, oh my God. That, that's going to be one for watch, but it's going to get. She's going to walk out of here, like, you need therapy. Ralph, no country for old men, silence, old lamb. She's definitely seen silence a lamb.

Sixth Sense she's seen Donnie Brasco all under two. I don't know about Donnie Brasco, but do you remember, you're throwing movies out there at that point? I mean, no seven and everything too. There's some, maybe one of those she hasn't seen. I know she's seen Sixth Sense. I don't know if she's seen Donnie Bresco. And I know she's had to have seen Silence of Lambs. She had to.

Everyone says something. Yeah, at that point, yeah, she definitely. Ralph. Hey, Roka, why you hate Rinaldo? Jealous, is he too good? Rinaldo, Ronaldo? I don't like you. Christian Rolto, yeah. I'm a Leonel Messi fan, much more. Rinaldo's too in love with himself, which is a...

Do you see him get kicked out of the Ireland game? He was, like, mocking the fans. Yeah, he's... I watched that whole thing. Yeah, sure you did. Eric Opperman. What's up, guys? Do you think the Duffer movies,

the Duffer Brothers could ever do something with Star Wars? I know the huge fan, show, movie, love it? It's the same question that is. team answer I have for all of them. Yes, but I hope it's under new leadership. Yeah. I'd love to see them do a whole series under new leadership. It's like it's like drafting a great quarterback to the Cleveland Browns. That's the last thing you want for them to do right now is to great creatives go over to Star Wars and get mauled up by the people or in charge. You don't want that. Go, pal. Donation for the locksman. I appreciate it. Much appreciated. Man, that was a brutal.

That was so brutal. Um, oh yeah, and updates, I guess, for the show, because we got, we're doing a, I had a conversation this morning, one of the producers. You know what I will say. I can say this. Okay. That the producer that we have on the show, their movie that they did is on R.C. is on the Critics Choice app.

Oh, wow. There's a, there's, I can tell you, that's great. I don't know if you've seen it yet. I don't want to, I don't want to say the movie yet because then people are going to be like, oh, start doing research it. But the, I told, and I hadn't, I haven't watched again.

I'll say that. I don't watch it. I'm going to watch it probably soon. Scott Horowitz, I like the AMC, Lincoln Square as well. Also, the only 70 millimeter IMAX in the New York City region. So, Oppenheimer. Yeah, I love the IMAX. I see all my IMAX movies there. At least, you know, when they have the screenings there.

But yes, I love, I Lincoln Center really like a lot. The one I prefer, the one I prefer, and not because of quality, but because of convenience is the AMC 34th, because it's a, it is a, five minute walk from Penn Station. So I'm just, I don't have to take the subway. So right there. But Lincoln Square is a couple, couple stops that I have to take, but it's pretty, it's pretty convenient. They're all, they're all pretty convenient. I got to go. I don't even know where I'm going tonight. I have to look that, look that up. Yeah, it's not, it's not an AMC for the screening

for knives out. So I got to do that. Uh, Kiki and Luke. Love the Muggen, uh, the Mugent train video. Thank you. Yeah, thank you guys for, look, I'm, I'm going to look though. I'm going to, Yeah, I'm going to bet you that it, that it didn't do well. I mean, I can be wrong, but I'm going to look. Let me see. Everybody's looking forward to it. Yeah, 12.7. Not too bad.

Not too bad. So that's actually pretty good for considering the, all the episodes are doing like five or six. That was pretty good. But we had a lot of fun. Winston and I are actually probably going to try to finish up season two today. Nice. See if we could do it. So, okay.

Nathan Drake, get the hot dog with spicy mustard. She doesn't like spicy mustard because you're talking about my little one. But she, she thought, well, she likes spicy mustard, but out of the hot dogs. She was, I think she had a little ketchup. But she was like the whole time, I want to get a hot dog. When I can get one at this deli at this diner, she's been a pain in the ass. Like, I want to get one of the other thing. I'm like, sit down and shush.

We're going to. And she got the hot. She says, it is good. I go, and shut your ass. Simon section. Honestly, I don't see any of the original Trinity actors coming back unless they are doing a kingdom com storyline directed by Snyder. So more living panel shots followed by speed ramping a slow-mo. I mean, that's the other thing we didn't talk about, John, is that here is the thing, though.

If the Saudis get it, they're going to get everybody back because it's going to pay them whatever they want. Look at how much they're paying comedians to do shows. Affleck is very aware politically about stuff. So I don't know. That's a good call, right? I don't know how much Galgado would want to work for that. the Saudis. It's the question, how much do they love Snyder? What's their relationship with Snyder? That's where it comes down to it. Yeah, because what's the difference, right? This is

another question we didn't bring, or another point that we didn't bring up. So all the shit that all those comedians got for doing that festival, right? Rightfully so, in my opinion. Is, everybody going to get that kind of shit for doing Warner Brothers movies? Yes. Right. They're already getting shit for being a part of the Harry Potter series with, with JK Rowell. comments about the trans game. So extend that out to Saudi Arabia. He's been accused of, you know, hacking that journalist into pieces. Right.

There's a lot of things. Right. There's going to be a lot of stuff that comes with that. Shane Markell, years ago, I saw somebody say for years now, Snyder knows how to make great moments, not great movies. That's why there's so much slow-mo. The slow-mo has to stop. It's got to stop.

It's got to stop. It doesn't do it. He can tell great stories. He really can. The slow-mo kills it. I don't know why he loves slow-mo so much. It's the worst. Tell you what,

I'll take it out of Snyder movies if y'all take it out of Peter Jackson movies. I'll be happy to exchange the slow motions for both. I mean, fine. I don't think slow mo really, I mean,

helps anything. I mean, very rarely it does, but for the most part, you don't need it, especially in the middle of a fight. I hate it in the middle of a fight. Yeah, kills it, kills me. It kills momentum.

Slow motions. I don't, and I don't think it stands out as much as Snyder, but, you know, teachers are. Renetta W. Hey, Hey, fellas,

happy Monday. the trailer for Deadpool and Wolverine registered 365 million views within its first 24 hours. Will the Doomsday trailer beat those numbers? Inquiring of Minds like to know, I think it will. 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I think because and also because of Deadpool and Wolverine adding to it, you know, what they did in general. I think like I said this last week, John, is that when this movie was first kind of announced, there wasn't a lot of buildup behind people. Like, I'm not even that excited about it. Now it's starting to ramp up and it's quickly going to jump on people's anticipated list, too. and this trailer is going to be, it's going to, yeah, it's going to cry. We're like a month away from Avatar. It's true.

So, yeah, I don't know if they said they're going to only release it in the theaters and then maybe the next week they'll drop the trailer on line. So it's an interesting situation how they're going to handle that trailer rollout. Did they say that? That's what I'm saying. People are suggesting that they're only going to put it in the theater. I think that'd be stupid. And you saying 30 different versions of it that they're shooting.

I think it's very stupid for them to do that. Yeah. I think it'll get leaked. It'll get a leaked immediately. There's no, there's no world where you're going to be able to contain everybody and you're going to lose out on views and you're going to lose out on exactly what Renetta is saying here. Yeah. You put it now a day before it comes out or day of, you know, whenever the first screening is anywhere else and you drop at the same exact time, sure.

But I think it's a stupid, stupid decision to try to make that exclusive is you can't make things exclusive anymore. That's why they don't do it anymore in the halls. I wonder if you and I and others are going to get invited to like, you know, a screen of the trailer ahead of time before the movie was out. Or trillion. Would you go to that? They did that for Avatar. I know.

Would you go to that? I only went to that because there was a movie screening afterwards. Right. Of another movie. But if you go to the Dooms Day one? It depends on where it is. If it's close, yes. If it's like 35 minutes like some of the other screenings, maybe it was next door to my house,

I wouldn't go. And I'll tell you for it because I think I'll get more out of it by, I'll react to it. Why would I mean, I'll, I'll see the movie in the theater. That's a good point. Cosmic movie guy. Breaking News being my bungholes. Snare versus dead.

All right. There you go. All right. We'll see. We're going to find that out within a month, I think. Nathan Drake, my buddy left his wall at a strip club in New York overnight one time. We were staying in Jersey. Luckily found it from.

I mean, look, I was going through so many different things inside of my head when, like, you know, I was like, okay, I want to believe that they. are good people out there. I want to believe that somebody who was cleaning the theater said, all right, because I got a lot of stuff on my keys that you can see that this is, you can see from my keychain that my life is on these, on these things.

So I want to believe that somebody is going to actually turn it in, and they did. And so I'm very, very happy. That's great. Okay, let's see. So, what do they find the wall? I know, where did they find the wall? Exactly.

They have sanitized it afterwards? In the Shafin room. Yeah. Simon section. Christian, bro, I left my car keys in my trunk on a work day.

Oh my God. And I too looked something at the AMC theater, but it was in my phone. Well, Edgar, right, go to film jail. Cats, nah,

he won't go to film jail. No, no. Yeah, that's the beauty of streaming. Yeah. Streaming, I mean, Netflix will give him a movie tomorrow. Right.

100%. 100%. Yeah, No, it's very hard to get put in the film jail these days. Paul Hitchcock. Well, given how many buildings,

Superman and Zodfluent and destroyed Man of Steel, I could see why the studies would want to bring. Oh, my. Come on. Are we still with that bullshit? Come on. Jesus Christ.

Dancing dog 60. A 45-year-old Superman? Ridiculous. Is that old cavalist? I mean, you could do a kingdom come type thing. If they did kingdom come, then I might be more on board. Right. He's ridiculous.

I think you could still do it, depending on where he is. He's 42. Yeah. Yeah. Renata W. So who's snatching that open weekend crowd? Wicked for Good or Zootopia, too. Can't wait to see both when they open.

Ooh, it's a good question. Are they both? It's the same weekend, huh? Yeah. Did you get the screening for Zootopia yet? Not yet. Yeah, it doesn't come out yet. I got to reach out.

Look, I say it every time. This is the, like, I did look at, oh, shit, I don't know, because so many kids love Wicked also. My little one was pumped to see it. Like, she stayed awake and wanted to go to see that movie, a Wicked too. I have to say Zootopia. I'm going to say Zootopia.

as well, but I'm not going to be surprised if it doesn't win, but I think Zootopia, like, you can, and I say it every time, if you can make a movie that families are going to go in, and you've got kids, a kid's movie to really show and pump out, going to crush. So I'm going to give Zootopia the win. I think it's going to win overall, too. Well, doesn't Wicked for Good come out this weekend, or what does it come out? I thought it both came out at the scene. Let me see.

We see it comes out. Coming November 21st. So it is this weekend. And when's Zatopia? The Topia, I think, is next week. Oh, so no. Okay. So then, well, then there's no, there's no, uh, yeah, you can compete through the overall

rounds. Well, the second week, and it'll be weekend, too, Zutopia will win. Yeah. It'll over, it'll overthrow. It's coming out of 2016. Yeah, Wicked, Wicked will be number one. Zatopia will overthrow it. Yes.

Yeah. Uh, Kevin says, Superman Herm is real. Maybe. Let's say, uh, I see what you did there. All right. 68 so far, John. Can you get to 100? Come on, guys. 32 more. Let's go. That's right. Oh, it's actually

69 right now. Zodak 60. Sniter needs to take some Pepto-Bismol let it go. I mean, look, if he's got it, if he's doing some negotiating deals, it has a chance, and if he's talking a gun and saying, look, there's an opportunity. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I want to find all the deal before you say let it go. I don't know yet.

Nathan Drake, should they ever cast Maui for I have action? No, way. No way. Yeah. No way. It's the rock, man. Yeah, no way. Everybody wants to see him play Maui. No way. I'm looking once this goes, I'm going to do a reaction to that. Yeah, yeah, it's so soon as this goes. Armada, lost my while out of theater once. The Usher wouldn't let me check the theater. I left in. Oh, man, I had to buy another ticket for me. What? I would have, I would have went right past

that person. I would have said, you can follow me and you can call the cops. Yeah. You would go right past that person. I'm getting my damn wallet. Yeah. A hundred percent no. Buy another ticket. I would have said, smell my asshole. So, 71 right now. Okay. So thank you,

Armada. I'm sorry that that happened to you. I would ask for a refund too. Oh, yeah. I'm so mad about your tweet. When was that? And I want to call them and get a refund for you now. Even it was 20 years ago. The little Yankee, happy Monday. Glad you got your keys back. Me too.

And the diner near AMC Lincoln Square is still there. It is. Yeah, no, we went. Saudis want WB believable. The Sinaniverse back, thumbs down. I know, I just don't think there's, but I agree with you, John. I don't think there's going to be enough people. There will be enough people who are excited about it, but I don't think there's going to be enough people who are excited about it to make it warranted.

I don't, I don't know. I mean, look at the Justice League numbers. They did well for streaming, but like, you know, I know, I know. It's interesting. All right, let's see. People overestimate the interest. King of the Wicker people, part one, the Snatner. Interest was undercut since BBS.

Winnitus cut out very important story info that made the theatrical and the handker movie. Agreed. Then Wernheros didn't want the cut so they gave us Justice League. I mean, I don't disagree with that. It was, I mean, it was handled very poorly. I would disagree with the, look, the BVS

extended edition isn't better. I know a lot of people like to say it's better. It's not. All it does is show you how much of this movie is wasted even more so before we get to any action sequence. So for me, it's not a better film. So even though WV might cut it up for the release,

even the director's cut isn't that strong. I like the director's cut a little bit more personally. King of the Wicker people, all this money of the waters of how people viewed the initial center verse. It wasn't until BVS Ultimate Edition and proper senators just as well. People saw something pretty unique and different from Marvel.

But not enough people. And not enough, I guess it's true. Hey, Mr. CJ. Praise the big man upstairs. You still have your keys. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I was just like, I was starting to plan in my head.

I'm like, okay, I've got to go and get, because I got my wife's car key on here. I got my car key. I'm going to have to replace the freaking thing on the key fobs. I got my freaking, the gym membership stuff on here. I got my office keys. I got my house keys. It was brutal. I was like, I was very, very happy coming out of that theater.

Corny emperor, I don't want Ellison at all. 100% don't want unlimited Saudi money involved. That influence can actually be much worse than stifle created. they can bury movies without tax incentives, trillions. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Great point.

72, John. Seventy two. Four and Emperor follows it up. I love the Snyderverse some. But unfortunately, it's over. I already moved on. Already broke Cavill's heart. Ben's broken with Batman.

Too late, in my opinion. Very well said. Yeah. I mean, you're trying to Henry Cavill around. You let him get yanked into that Black Adam bullshit. And now you're going to bring him back to Superband? just I just don't know if he wants to do that. It's, again, that is, that's why the Saudi element only makes sense because the amount

of money you'd have to throw at Henry Cabell to want to do that again is going to be extraordinary, you know, and like, so like if they're, okay, it's going to cost an arm and a leg to bring him back, Affleck back. And you would have to, you would have to give Affleck a directing movie. 1,000 percent. You have to. Yeah. Christopher Bruckner.

I didn't like Stephen Knight writing the ready movie, mainly because Knight was in a bad slump at the time for 2015, 2020, when his scripts were not good, though he appears to be out of his slump now. I mean, it's got better than what we've been getting in general with Star Wars, though, no, I would have much rather seen that.

I don't, yeah, I don't, yeah. I mean, he's, so, I mean, he's doing bond now. Yeah. I mean, clearly, yeah. Joe Hendo TV, guys, come on. I love the Center versus Trilogy, but this ain't happening. Again, you know, if you, Joe, if you've got, if you got insight to what the Saudis are thinking, you know, let us know if you've got sources.

But like, I will not definitively ever say this isn't happening because that's what I was told to say about Downing coming back and playing Doom. That's not happening. I was told that, come on, I love Downing, but that's not happening. I heard that. And then it did. So I never say it ain't happening. I happen to lean more on the side that it won't happen. Right, right.

But I'm never going to say, definitely not happening. Definitely not. No way. I don't think that no one's involved. I can't say definitely not. People were so adamant that the JL was never going to happen. Zs. As Ex-Snyder's Justice League was never going to happen.

Never. And then I got people threw me into that. And I was like, because of Clive alive, there are people who said that. And I was like, there's always a possibility. There's always a thing of way to do it. Go, pal. I like Daniel Lackman and everything I've seen. Ditchin Lime.

I don't know who that is. You know what? You know what I started to watch last night? The one with Dakota Fanning and... Oh, yeah. Scars, Skard. Sentimental value. Yeah, did you see it yet?

Yeah, that's on the list for possibly today or tomorrow. Just start watching it last night, and I'm about half an hour in. I like it so far. They gave us rental family, which I'm going to watch this after. Oh, you know who did you know who did you know. She was in... What shit? Oh, shoot.

Was she just in... That's that one with, oh my God. Was she just in the accountant, too? I feel like she was just in the accountant, too. Okay. Am I wrong about that? But I feel like she was. Okay.

Did you see the accountant too? I did. I don't remember her in the year. Let me see. Let me see. I'm going to double check. I'm sure. Feverence.

Right. She was in Severance and she was, right. She was in Jurassic World. Am I wrong about that? Maybe I'm wrong. I don't see her listed for it. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm wrong.

I'm thinking of somebody else. So, never mind. But yeah, she was, it's, it's, it's, It's severance that I'm thinking. Haskell, some of guys, Netflix, new six episode series, Last Samurai, Stating, Chapter 1, it's fantastic with some of the best battles

sword fighting on screen episodes under 4551. Great. That sounds good. Well, watch that. Yeah, thanks for, I know you DME, Haskell. Sorry, I didn't respond to you,

but yeah, I'm glad you put it up here. Yeah, I'm a huge samurai guy. I know you are, yeah, for sure. 72. Come on. Can we get to, can we get to a Honda? I think we can do it. Dancing Dog 60.

Faroka. John is always cool and entertaining. Oh, thank you. There you go. People like you, see. That rare person that likes me. Thank you. Eh, any more people like it.

Christopher Brickner. A good thing for Zelda films is that in the games, Link and Zelda's essence keep getting reincarded every few centuries, which makes it easy to recast. Well, yes and no. You can recast, and I guess easy to recast, sure. Right. But you're always going to get compared to the people that were there last.

Yeah, and 100%. Yeah, because guess what also didn't work? In the Narnia movies, once those kids got older, and they'd have to, like, replace them. them all with new because you could say the same thing right well the good news is that by time 8th the 3rd you don't need those kids anymore you get new kids that didn't work new kids didn't didn't work um Carl Rutter London calling so house the dynamite and frankincet this weekend gave the running man a miss also great back to future tribute john and the cine files did you do back to the future

yeah we did it yesterday we did it true steve and i on our youtube channel and on our podcast stream so yeah back to the future a lot of fun to talk about uh C black moana live action is making a billion after that trailer. Wow. Check out that trailer. Okay. All right. Let's see. 75.

75. Come on. Dancing dogs. 60. Powell is a fun dude. He's just not a movie star. I agree. Agreed.

Yeah. That's it. He's fun dude. I would love to kick back at beers. Have a beer. 100%. You know, and you know what? I think to be fair to him, he's just not a movie star yet.

Possibly. I mean, he's almost 40, bro. But I don't care if you, I don't, you, Ronnie Dangerfield wasn't a star until he was in 60s. That's a great. So anybody, you know, if you earn it, but he didn't just, didn't just give him a movie. I know. Did Caddyshack.

Glenn's been working for years. I'm like, he's been working for years. But it's like, you know, I just, yeah, it's, you got to build. Francisco Lopez. That's true about Snyder putting for the DCU. That's effing sad and pathetic. Snyder needs to forget about this movie, move on and let this should go. Easier said than done.

Yeah, it's not your babies. It's not your babies. Plus the fact, you don't have someone saying, hey, we'll give you a trillion dollars. not that they're going to give him a trillion you know what I mean like if if if you had somebody call you up and go look we're going to give you unlimited money to bring this thing back and what a win it would be for you to be the king again yeah Francisco you can't say that you would you would you right now can say that but I don't believe you he would he would he would totally reboot the smote out if he could if they give him a trillion dollars

francisco would he totally I'm sure yeah um don rinaldo McWhiskey a judge for inflation, I could see Zelda making what used to be $1 billion in 2017, but now $750 million. I got to see a trailer, but I still think, you know, it's got a shot. Armada, the new running man was bad. I won't go bad, in my opinion. I don't go bad. I just go, you know, there was, I agree with John. There's a lot in there.

It's like, oh, there's such a good movie in there. And then it turns into another movie and like, oh, I don't like this movie. And then it gets back to that movie. You're like, oh, this movie's back. And then it turns into another movie. It's just, it's all over the place. And can Lee, and can Lee Pay stop playing villains? Oh, my God.

was so. I didn't mind him. Not good. I just didn't like him. Really? I didn't mind him. But then who's the girl from Coda and and Task?

Yeah, Amelia Jones. She was good. Where'd you come from? I don't know. It's so wasted. It's like all of a sudden, we're going to present you this. What?

Yeah. I thought he had more chemistry with her. Yeah. Dancing Dog 60. Okay, maybe Powell will find stardom as he ages. Liam Neesie didn't find his niche until taken. well but leon nison was still starring in movies and doing us away before taking he didn't find the action movies until taken but he was i mean hell they gave him dark man really early that's true and uh and he was i mean he was doing michael collins and uh he was doing michael collins and he was starring in rob roy rob roy um i think pal is talented he just can't draw an audience yeah i'm with you i'm with you i think he's very talented too yeah um and it's also a very different time from when leiam nison was starring in

even during the Taken era as opposed to now. Okay. And like the beat back to restore the gunverse. It's not dead yet. It's not done yet. Jim Burton, what's up guys? You know, Christian,

you ever think of doing a roofman reaction with Sam? Understanding crowd, please, a solid mom movie. I don't think it's a mom movie at all. At all. It's definitely not a mom movie. And then I would love to watch that with Sam.

I just feel like I will tell you. It's going to be my top 10 of the year for sure. But I will tell you that you haven't seen yet. No, Jeff keeps giving me shit. I say it. I got to see it. Dude, I tell people about this movie and every time I have the same reaction, which is never heard of it. No one's ever heard of this movie.

And then after I tell them what it's about, they're all like, oh, my God, that sounds so intriguing. Especially the fact of the live, it's a true story. So, yeah, I just don't know. I don't feel like anyone would click on it if I did it because no one even knows what it is. Yeah, no one even watched it. So, yeah. I don't even watch it. So I think he did okay in the theater, though, didn't it?

I don't know. Maybe not. I thought it did okay. I'll take a look, yeah, for what it cost and what it made. Simon section, John,

to clarify the Dirty Dozen movie, it was the TV movie called The Next Mission, starring Kenwa. Oh, Ken Wall. And Rico Ross, still hate it. Yeah, I watched that Dirty Dozen movie. I remember it.

Yeah, Lee Marvin was in it. Okay. And George, no, Ernest Borg Knight. I remember, yeah. Okay. So 70, no, 80 right now. So Roofman made 32 and it cost 18 million. Okay, so okay. It did okay.

It did okay. It did okay. Didn't bomb. Shea Markell, running man three out of five for me. Pal's acting was great, but the moments that needed heart fell flat. Agreed. Yeah. Tina at the beginning with his boss made me cringe. It wasn't great. It wasn't a great moment. I agree. I didn't waste David Zias in one scene. Why you waste David Zias? Go pal. I saw Vogue on Friday,

even knowing F all about the French, new we were having seen Breathless. It was really enjoyable. Did you see it? I haven't seen that one yet. It's all my Netflix thing. I can't wait to see it. Because I'm a big fan of Breathless,

and so I want to see how they made that movie through that film. Don Ronald and McWhiskey. Ruby Rose is a cautionary tale and how not to impress potential new employers. Let's not talk trash about others in your industry, folks. I mean, yeah,

Talking trash is, John and I both agree on, is not the way to go. Yeah. Voicing concerns, being a voice for your community, showing strength in your beliefs, I don't think should ever be taken away, especially on your own platforms. But to go after people and call people names, it's, it's trashing. Yeah, I saw, I'll tell you, I saw a clip from some of these, from a, these black comics host a podcast. Godfrey's one of them. I love him.

his Trump impression, by the way, he's amazing. But they were making fun of Terry Cruz. And I was like, why are you making fun of a brother who is acting in a tough business? And they were essentially making fun of it. Because it's cool to me. I guess. Yeah, that's what bothered me. I was like, Terry is great.

And it's not because he's white acceptable. You know, Terry can go when he wants to go hard. He can go hard. And to me, it reeked of jealousy. And I was like, this first time I felt like that. See, that's not the way. It happens all of the time. All of the time.

Yeah. Shea Markell. Powell seems to have a lot of range from dramatic to comedic. I don't think Hollywood or his team knows what Lee and he shines best in. Fair. Fair. Very fair. I'd like to,

I think that that's what I'd like to see him do now. Yeah. Let's go away from the commercial stuff. Let's go into some of these, like, start showing up in some of the November, December, like Oscar movies. Yeah, sure. Let's see what you got. Yeah.

Let's put your materialists in the crisp Evans role. Let's see what you got. Right. He would have been good in that. He would have been good in that. roll. Yeah. Go pal. Turns out link later makes a good movie. Yes. What did he just do again? The Blue Moon? Yes. I didn't see it yet. It's on the app. Yeah. That's on. Oh my.

All right. Prady. Thank you so much. Everyone complained about comedians going to Saudi. No one's saying a peep about Mr. Beast opening a theme park in Saudi. I don't know. What? No. Of course they did, Prady. Are you crazy? For all the sports events that take place there. Is the outrage, isolated to Hollywood virtual signaling? Listen. Oh my God. I don't want to. Okay. I'm okay. I'm not going to get upset. I'm trying to really hard not get upset anymore. So, Prady, I'm not going to get mad at you, but you should do some research on this stuff.

And I would encourage you all to do research on stuff before you comment. Don't just live in your echo chamber. A lot of people complained about the sporting events that take place in Saudi. A lot of people complained about Mr. Beast. Mr. Beast had to react to it and they should statement about it. So yes, people complain. This is not virtue signal. People are complaining across the board about Saudi. They're going to be complaining a lot about this, too. Sarah Figueroa. Hello, Sarah. Comparing Powell to Courtney and Worthington,

you two are underestiming the projects he's producing for his barnsarm banner writing on his own. It's why he won't suffer the same fate, too involved. You're talking about different things here. Two different things. Very different. I'm not talking about how he's involved in producing and all that, where they're similar at.

I'm not talking about career and just as far as parallel in their careers. I'm talking about the Hollywood machine that is, here's who you're supposed to, that's your new movie star. That's your new movie star. That's your new movie star. He falls into that category right now because that's what Hollywood is doing and throwing it. I'm not talking about whatever he's doing for brainstorm or that that's the whole, look, if he's doing smaller things that are now through this company that are going to shine his acting ability, which is good, that could be the road to go. So you're kind of adding to what we're saying more so than anything else here. John, what do you think?

Yeah, 100%. We're just talking about acting. You bringing in this other stuff is like people going, well, you're not thinking about the ancillaries. And all those, no, what was the box office? That's what we care about. That's what the point is. And the same thing here with acting.

And it's different. Right, Courtney and Worthington. But I guarantee you, Sarah, you don't know what Jay Courtney's been producing. You don't know what Sam Worthington's been producing. He could be a producer on the Avatar films, right? Yes, but he could be a producer. So you don't know in the comparison of what they're all doing. 100%.

We don't know what kind of points and anything. He got never been successful wise. I don't know about success. We're just talking about the idea of like, of acceptance of who is, who is a movie store. Yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah. Shea Markell, Powell's performance in Top Gun and then devotion immediately after. That's what convinced me he's a star. The acting is there, just not a string project. You know who I,

like Leonardo DiCaprio to me is someone. Like, I was like, Titanic was like the biggest movies of all time. I was like, yeah, he's good. Then he was another stuff.

And then for a long time, all he does is scream and yell and cry. Yes. And I, and I didn't like him. it was the departed. When I saw the departed, I said, that's a movie star. I agree with you.

I think, that's a movie star. And then that, from that point on, he went from being a guy that I was like, he's talented to I'll see everything he's in. Yeah. And he has not disappointed since. Yeah. I agree to 100%. Right. Inceptions one of my favorite movies of all time.

Wolf of Wall Street, one of my favorite movies of all time. He just crushed it in one battle after another. That's a movie star. This is the problem we have. And this is the truth of it. I guess I don't want to say that because I'm going to get in some trouble. But I think there are, well, I'll find I'll say it. I think there are some critics who have never been actors and have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to acting sometimes.

And too many people wanted to hand DeCaprio the acting title in the ABA. He was still working towards the departed. The departed is when he became a movie star and actor. You're 100% like Christian. He was working towards that. And just like anything else, people want to hand these actors way too much credit early on and not let them grow into becoming a better actor. And DiCaprio wasn't there yet.

As much people wanted to make him, he wasn't there an aviator. It wasn't until departed. You're 100% right. That's what I'm saying. And I think Powell could get there. Let's see, though. Cruz got there. Look, I know people love born on the Fourth of July.

Cruz is, he's good in that, just like DiCaprio's good in aviator. But he isn't great until Magnolia. Magnolia is where you see what you'd say. I don't effing do. And that's the difference. And he challenged himself on that one too. Samuel Allen. Tough gear for the Stephen King adaptation, in my opinion.

Really? Really? I disagree. What's an underrated one for you guys? Mine are at Pupil and Storm of the Century. You know, I've never seen, I don't know, I have seen that pupil. It was so long ago.

So long ago. Who was the kid? I know it was Ian McKellen, but who was the kid? Oh, God. Was it? I don't remember. I remember. And then Storm of the Century,

I don't think I've ever seen, but I actually think it's been a great year for adaptations. I really like Welcome to Derry a lot. And I, and I love Long Walks out of my favorite movies of the year. Yeah, I thought Long Wals was great. I loved it. I'm going to give PLD some, some love for it because he loves Ed Harris. Yeah. And I saw Needful Things in the theaters, and I love Needful Things.

Okay. And no one talks about Neatful Things. And Ed Harris is great that movie, and that movie is a damn good adaptation of a damn good film. Hunter Vance, Roca, you're a lot more reasonable when speaking about a topic than when you're tweeting about it. On a great week, guys. I'm telling you. I only have 240 characters, so I've got to get it in size, you know. It's the truth.

This is my favorite. This is my favorite comment. I like the Harle's beginning of Brace Art House movies. I've always have. Yes. Since I've been with Schmo's and never. I can verify this. I always have.

Christian, I've always talked about the other. for a very long time. But then again, sold styles might be a brand new viewer. I don't know. Shea Markell, I really enjoy Badlands. It was a lot of fun.

I want more stories with deck. The score was perfect. I think we're going to get more stories with it. But, you know, I'll tell you what, John, I finally saw,

and there's going to be a spoiler here for Killer of Killers. Go ahead. So I finally saw Killer of Killers. And you saw it, right? Yeah, I loved it. I'm going to now push back against you that I do think that Dutch is needed.

And I'll tell you why. Go ahead. I think. I think that they need to do a movie with old Dutch, old Danny Glover, and Amber Midthunder. It's the reveal at the very end they're trying to get off the predator planet, the three of them. And they're not going to be able to fight and doing anything. She's got to be able to do a lot of stuff too. They're going to be able to do whatever they can.

Arnold, Danny Glover is not going to do any fighting, but they've been old. They're aging out there, and they've got to get off that planet. The three of them together, you wouldn't want to see that movie with Trachenberg directing? I'll remove. Oh, my God. Danny Glover and I'll put in Lawrence Fishburn from Predators. I'd rather see that. Because I don't like Predator 2 at all, nothing about it.

I don't either, but he was, but he's who they showed in that reveal. That's why I brought it. I know, you're right. If they didn't show, they showed Fishburn, then they said put Fishburn in it, but they showed those three. And it's Trachenberg who's been doing it. I love the killer killers, by the way, loved it. So good. Didn't realize, I thought they were little vignettes. Like that didn't mean, they all tie together. It was brilliant. I loved it.

tied to the bad to bad i would actually go killer of killers uh bad lands and then pray but i could i can move all three of them around all three i 100% agree with you all three move around depending on the day you easily easily uh harv's k john what did you think of hamnet i saw it over the weekend it was the most emotionally cathartic films i've ever seen or i've seen in some time yeah it's a phenomenal is it really good yeah it's so good but i mean like it's about the it's about the loss right it's in the trailer it's a loss of their child but they do exactly I don't want to watch that. God, it's tough, brother.

But they do exactly what I say you're supposed to do. They give you enough time with the characters and the relationship and their relationship with their child before the thing happens. And then they give you all this time afterwards to see them dealing with it and processing it. It's amazing. It's amazing. And if you're a Shakespeare person, it is absolutely hard for me to watch. But I mean, I guess I got to watch it.

But Jeff is amazing. Jesse is amazing. Yeah. Any chance of an apes trilogy reaction. I got to find someone who hasn't seen it. I think, I don't know if Sam's seen the last two, but I think she's seen the first two. So I don't know. Michael, McKenzie, what's going to make more coin?

Toy Story 5 or Mario? I'm going to say Mario. I say Mario. Yeah, I'm going to say Mario. Yeah. But not by much, but not by much. Right. Ralph, my packed IMAX theater erupted in applause when Sean Penn emerged with bloody face and one battle with that vast walk.

Are we supposed to clap for the villain? he did he did some crazy stuff in there for sure where do you live ralph i might cue me in on why people applauded but yeah i think it's because sean did such a wonderful job in that character that when he showed up again you're like oh my god you know it's yeah um i can't believe people think he's not going to be nominated if he's not said that some jeff keeps saying he's going to get nominated over benicio over i mean wait i'm going to get nominated over sean i i i wouldn't i'll tell you what i don't think that should happen but i wouldn't be upset if that happened

because I just loved, well, the reason why is because when I left, I said, oh, if Sean Penn wasn't in this, Benicia Toro would probably get nominated. That's why. Because I said, he's so good in it. He's so good.

He's so good. You know, that's off the app already. Oh, yeah. I know. They did let us know. It was only going to be for a certain amount of time. I know. Joe Hendo, TV.

Also, I'm just being realistic. I supported the Snyder Cut. getting released back in the day because it was a near-finished film. Warner and Netflix aren't going to invest millions in another film for a day. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, wait, hold on a second, Joe. You're not, you're not listening to what we're talking about here. So Warner and Netflix, there's no one on this panel that thinks that's even a possibility. Yeah, I don't think so.

We're talking about if the Saudis who have a relationship with Snyder get it, who have money to just throw into the street. if they want to. That's where it could happen. Not Warner Brothers and Netflix. If Warner Bros. Netflix is the deal, then I agree with you, Joe. Then it's not going to happen. But if the Saudis get it, I think you might, you're not going to be as confident in

your statement. You shouldn't be. If it is indeed, you know, because he has a relationship with him. Yeah. Scott Harowitz, movie fight. Snyder Slomo versus JJ Ames, Len flare. Give me the lens flare all day long. I've never had an issue with his lens flare.

The lens flare I can just look to the side and just still focus in on the story. I'm telling you like that that freaking, I mention it all the time. Yeah. That Rebel Moon, Sophia Batell is in the middle of this fight. I'm like, oh yeah, I'm locked in and then here she comes. Yeah, yeah. Stop. You could go to fight.

And it's like it's like seven seconds on the freaking slow motion punch. It's like it's not, that does not work. Yeah, I agree. The world isn't. prepared for no one's odyssey says ralph i i i'm with you i cannot it's my right now it's my number one yeah could change those images were great but they yeah right now it's my number one 93 john 93 come on seven more ralph i watched departed again last night it's my favorites cosezzi any chance we can watch on the channel say how to your mother from you um i think i'm

i'm pretty sure sam has seen that one i don't know if step has seen it that i might it might be a step movie. I don't know if Winston's seen it. I'm not sure. I think Winston hasn't seen it. I'll put money on it. Maybe not. Yeah. I don't know. Paddy. Let's see. Seattle, K.O., support for Roka. Thank you. Very kind.

The Blazing. Hey, Roka, regarding Power Girl movie, if Gun does it, since Cara is more mature and older, shouldn't it be for Sanja Hendrix in the role? Either way, both good choices. Christina Hendricks. I think he starts to say Christina Hendricks. from Madman. Oh, from Madman. Okay. Yeah, no. She doesn't have the chops to pull off Power Girl. No offense. Christina's grape enough of that.

Who was the other one? You mentioned that would be great? Oh, Sydney Sweetie. That's the choice. There's no other choice. That is the choice. Okay. I don't know the character all enough to say. She's Bucksum and she's strong. Sydney can say that. Sydney, Sweeney, by the way, I didn't realize how much of an athlete she was. She, like, sometimes you can tell if somebody knows how to throw a punch.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, for example, you know how much I love Julia Roberts? She cannot throw a punch. She was in some movie that my wife and I were watching, which was the runaway bride. Oh, yeah, right? And she's hitting the punching bag. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. But then you see Sidney, and you're like, oh, wait a minute.

That's someone who knows what they're, she knows what she was throwing combinations. She was stepping in the right way. She knows what she's doing. Yep. So I'd love to see her in another action movie. I would go. Yeah. Dancing Dog 60. Cavill would be about 45 if the shit first returned.

But again, you can get an older Batman. Affleck, too. Affleck's older too. Cavill at 45, Kristen, looks better than some of these actors in their 20th. So give me a point. 100%. 100%. But how does no one mention that Affleck would be old too? Affleck would be.

He's older than Cal. Because he's already set, you know, they already established him as an older Batman. They were so good together, man. Fuck. They have such great chemistry together. Go Pal says, Ditchin Lockman was in Altered Carbon and Dollhouse. Oh, okay.

So, you know, altered carbon, I always, to me, every time I hear about Altered Carbon, I always think of silver pictures, because they had that script for so long as a movie, and they were trying to get it off the ground for so long. I'm trying to, like, Navid really had a hold of it, and they were trying for so long, and I remember then they turned it into a TV show,

and I was like, oh, I don't know if Joe had anything to do it. If they lost, they lost it. whatever it would be. But every time I hear Alter Carbon, all I do is think about that by time it's over. Um, Alex, Zach Snyder, Henry Cowell could literally be dead and people would be calling to restore this universe. You don't see me out here keeping my fingers crossed for season two of Firefly. I'll tell you, a lot of people

who still want that show too. Alex, don't lie. Alex don't lie. I know you keep your fingers crossed for a second half a firefly. I mean, even, yeah, you could, you could see, you could, don't be surprised. Hotel nerd, there goes the push for smaller budgets. It's not everybody buys Warner Bros. That's a great point. Yeah, true.

It's a great point because the budgets are going to be huge for these things. Oh, my goodness. There's a, you know, there's a, I got a, John, I'm going to throw an audible real quick. Okay, what's going on? There's a story that Brooke, I know we got a little bit of a, you know, we're going over here, but it's worth it. Because you and I are both. Do you want to take down the chat call? Yeah, yeah, well, just give me a second.

Oh, okay. Yeah, I got to find the story, but it's, it's right here. This is a big one for me and you, because I know we're both big fans of this movie. So if this actually happens, I am going to be stoked. Oh! Christian Bale, circling role, Michael Mann's Heat 2. What? I mean,

Wow. Deadline has learned that Michael Mann has his public enemy star, Christian Bale, circling a major role alongside Leonardo DiCaprio and Heat 2. Amazon, MGM Studios, and United, UA, UA, will start production on the second installment of the heat classic man wrote the script based on the new york times bestseller he authored with meg gardiner uh the film is being produced by man brockheimer stuber nesbit and shane salerno eric roth it was not clear what he would play but the script has drawn strong strong interest from top talent bail and de cabrio have won oscars giving man a chance to match the

high bar he said with the original which had denier o beppuccino and kilmer and ninety-five heat heat started patino as vinson hannah while it was a hit as soon since become a crime classic the global following. He, too, the novel was penned by a man and gardenier, but it is not a novelization of the film, rather. It tells the story of everything that happens to the principal character before and after the events of the original movie. The book was published in 2022, jumps between two time periods. The first follows Chaleras as he tries to have, what? Chris, yeah, Chris. Yeah, as he tries to evade the LAPD and Hannah following the bank robbery gone bad and which movies forward into new territory in the Tribor Zone and Southeast Asia. The second storyline takes

readers back to Chicago in 98 with McCauley Salaris and their high line crew are taking scores on the West Coast. Oh my God, sign me up. Are you kidding me? I was on board for this movie already. You get bail and DeCaprio? Those are two of my favorites. You're going to get the end. Plus, Michael

Man, end this story. Oh, my God. That would 100% leap into, if that's next, that won't be next year. It would be until like 2027. But if it did, that would leapfrog into my number one most anticipated. 100%. 100%. I mean, you know how you matched De Niro and, but you know, you bring in Bail and DeCabria. Like, that's an amazing thing.

100%. That is absolutely the way to do that. I mean, you've got to be kidding me. I imagine you'd be playing the main villain. There's rumors that DeCabria would do it, but maybe it's Christian Bail, and Bail would be a great villain. So who would DeCabrio be then? I think DeCaprio might be playing.

There's rumors that he might be playing Chris, the Val Kilmer. We'll see. But then, but that means then, But if he's Chris, he'd be Chris in the future. That's what I'm saying. But again, as I said, the novelization is not necessarily going to be what the movie is. I think, I'm going to take elements from the novel to create the movie. That's what I think.

I'm so excited for this one. Yeah. I went and did that story, so I lost our place. But we have quite a few of John. If you just, if you can keep it around a little later today because we got a, we got a You need to grab or use the restroom real quick, but other than that, I'm good. Yeah. Yeah.

We got 97 so far, so we've got quite a few. Let me see. I just want to get back to where we were where I see what the last one was. Okay. Okay. I think Hotel Nerd, was that the last one we had? Yes. The budgets?

Yes. And then Geek Loadsars. John, what are you currently playing? Dispatch? I'm not. I'm still playing Ghost of Yote. So I'm not done with playing Ghost of Yote yet, but I know what the new, what's the new call the new one that's coming out

on Thanksgiving Day. I'm not sure. Black O Black O Black Offs. I'll be picking that one up. So yeah. But yeah. Trey Porter, y'all checking out the Alex versus Arod documentary, definitely. It was him coming to terms of everything that's happened in his career being a piece of that. He seems to

have matured. You know, like you see him like, and I think he, like what he does the way he is, I actually really like him on commentary with Jeter. He's great. And Poppy. Yeah, I think they're all really good together, and I think he's kind of matured. You know what's ironic?

I think Poppy and Arod have kind of eclipsed Jeter in terms of commentary and whatever. Like, Jeter's on there for fun. Yeah, but I think Poppy and A. Rod. They're better analysts. They're better analysts. Yes. I agree with you. Yep.

I agree. And, and I love, look, Jeter's on my favorites of all time. Of course, the captain. They play, they're more fun than Jeter. Yeah, he is. He's like, he's like serious dad. Cheater is just there for, you know, for credibility because he won all those people. 100%. And he should be.

Trey Porter, never realized how obsessive he was with the game from when he was a child to his pro career. It's fair to say he puts the games over his family. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I got to check that out. I really do want to see that. Then again, to be that great of a player, you have to make certain sacrifices. Yeah, and I'm sure that they covered, and I don't know, Trey, do they cover the steroids and everything too? I'm not sure. Yeah, I watched the first episode and he leans into it from the picture.

Good, good for him. Oh, yeah. He should. If W.B. Asked Gun, could he fix Sony Marvel? No, Dick Smoker, by the way, Reds said. Even better. Kevin Funky would never bring Gun back over.

No, he's on a Sony Marvel. He's on a Sony Marvel. Sony Marvel. What's left over? If Gunn leaves this, he's not going back to this type of war. He's going to take the bag of cash that he made, and he's going to make movies with his family. He's barely doing this role.

He's directing everything. He's barely doing this role for God's saying. Fire side reviews. Edgar Wright was, working on a smaller film. And by the way, I'm going to say that gun's not going anywhere. But it was hard to get funds. Running Man got greenlit faster. Insight to the industry. That's fair too. Yeah. He's probably working on something that's hard. I mean, look, I'll tell you right now, I'm running a freaking Kickstarter to get this pilot me. I understand.

I get it. It's not easy to get financing. And I have big people involved in this thing. It is not easy to get financing. So I totally get that. But now he took the money, did this movie, probably because he was half-hearted about it, and look at the result of the movie. It's bit mixed and now it's a bomb and that's a bad look on him so taking the money isn't always the best way to go true uh don't forget Liam was in crawl the poor man's straw you know what i haven't seen crawled until you said that and honestly i forgot and i don't even remember that he was in it i don't even remember that he was in it did you yeah oh yeah oh yeah i don't you remember one of those 80s guilty pleasure yeah i haven't seen that movie probably since the mid 80s he's an

caliber 1981 wow wow he's been around forever see black i think doomsday can make more than end game if Hugh, Toby, and Ryan are all in it. Deadpool 3 made 1.4, not including Chris Evans and OG Avenger and Foxxman. It's potentially, absolutely. Avengers carries a name that can get the casual viewers excited about it, even if they don't know what the hell is going on. Yeah. Yeah.

What's the box office for Endgame? It's at 2.8 billion. 2.8. I made almost 3 billion. Holy moly. You think it'll make 3 billion? Maybe. I don't know.

I don't think it will because I don't think that there's enough push. I don't think there's enough push from the MCU in the way that end game was. But I think he's got a shot for two. Yeah. Joey Pedrus, Tatiana Mizlani was great and keeper. Her was a great job for her. She's great. Yeah, Tatiana's great.

Regardless, if she whole Kate was so unwarranted, Tatiana's great. She's a damn good actress. That show was the farts, but she was good though. No, she was not. She was good. Go, pal. Link later also did, what? Oh, he did that one too.

Oh, we love egg. Oh, okay, okay. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I did that one? Okay, 99, John, we're almost there. Shea Markell. Apparently, Allison Mack is out in pursuing Adrian social work.

I support redemption, but she shouldn't be allowed to revolve people. I actually don't disagree with you. I mean, but then again, you know, I don't know what she is. Yeah. Dunn, seen conversations about, you know, come to, talking about A-Rod, a very different situation, but like, you know, when it comes to understanding what you did, you're like, I don't know.

But that doesn't seem like someone I would want helping me with my problems. This is way too big of a conversation. I don't. Yeah, that's fair. She's an actress who definitely wants the spotlight. He's always wanted the spotlight and she wants to blame everyone else for everything that happened to her.

Oh, is that what she should be doing? She totally put Kristen Kruk into the flame. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, wow. Because Dr. Kruk is the one who introduced her to the call. Kristen got out. So it's Kristen's fault, not her fall.

Exactly. And then, you know, engraving her initials on women's bodies. Fuck her, man. Hey, Mr. CJ, happy 35th to Home Alone. I can't believe that's that old. Well, happy 35th to Rocky Fine. Oh, God. I know.

Miguel Zine, how do you all think, who do you all think bail will be playing in heat too? His driver's still on board. Leo is definitely still on board. Vincent Hanna is a bit hard to cast. I don't, I wonder if he's going to play. You know who he could play McCauley. Neil McCauley

yeah he can play McCauley says kind of stone-faced you know strategist he could easily play McCauley okay if you're gonna say who's gonna replace De Niro's McCauley

you want Christian Bailey you're like okay all right right that's fair point like who's gonna say oh he can't carry the weight of De Niro yeah he can

he's super intense like that 100% he's intense I think him playing McCulley would great I like Adam Driver but if you're gonna tell me that you can either have Adam Driver or bail. See you later, Adam Driver. See you. See you in that Kylo movie.

Don Rinaldo McWhiskey. Maybe we can get Ruby Rose for cheap on the series. No, no, no. I really wouldn't, for a lot of even reasons, but no. Wiley Todd, seeing Wicked for Good Tonight at the Amazon screening, very excited. Enjoy it. Curious about the new songs. Love this universe Wizard of Ozness. What I will say is, and this is what everybody says anyway, and I agree.

The songs in the first one are way better than this one. Yeah. But that's just the nature of the play. Christian, we have Ruby Rose on line two. Can I speak to her? Yeah, big balls. You can get in there. You can talk to her.

Sure. I've got lots to say. I'm sure you do. Paul Hitchcock. Christian wants predator cocoon. It's not that I want it. It's what's, it's what was set up. If you're going to set it up,

Miguel, saying, how would you rank the Sandler movie? How would you rank Sandler, Delroy, Lorde, A, Benicio, for your supporting actor? Oh, you know, I haven't seen that movie. I heard that movie's great. The one he's in? Yeah. Penn, Meskell, Scarsgrader, Morseley locked in, thoughts. I got to see everything first.

I still got, I'm going to see Frankenstein. Ming and I are going to watch that for a reaction. Delroy, what was he in? Sinners. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he was great. And Sandler, I got to see.

I hope she is not. I haven't seen Jay Kelly. The San Luis. Me either. But I hope he's good enough that he gets nominated. He's such a good dramatic actor. Yeah. He's so good.

I don't think Bascales is locked in as people think. What was he in? The Hamnet film. Oh, okay. He's locked in as people think. Okay. Chris Hunt, saw Roofman. It was great, but the 57 studio logos before it was starting exactly a family guy bit.

I didn't even see that. I got to check. I didn't even think about that and pay attention to it. Simon, section. Glad to see John giving respect to Ed Harris. Christian, respect your keys. I know. I will always respect your keys. Tyler

Fivert, you should react to the dairy mid-season trailer. Got goosebumps watching. I can't get over how great this show is. My daughter is obsessed with this show. And I'm not going to do a trailer reaction to it. I think. Yeah, I don't know if I want to be spoiled for any of the moments. I'm already locked in. You didn't see the last one, though? No, I've seen it

this afternoon for sure. Okay. Eddie Alidia. You guys see bail and Leo for Heat too. Yeah, yeah, we put it on it earlier. Hey, PLD or Luke, can you guys send to Jonathan make sure that that is a clip out for heat, please? Because it's in the questions. He usually doesn't get it. Okay, let's see. Here's the next one. And that is Carver Tate. Congrats on 40K, Rook. Pro proof that slow and steady wins the race. You built a channel based on integrity, honesty, respectful, respectful critique, which is a very solid foundation on which to keep growing. What a nice comment that is.

Very nice. Thank you, Carver. I appreciate it. I'm trying, man. Yeah, you've been doing it. I've got to do it my way. Uh, Prady BK. If Saudi is buying Warner Bros. along with Comcast, I think Comcast will have controlling share. They will run Warner Brothers, a foreign country running a major U.S. Media Empire is a national security risk, don't you think? That's why I asked the question. I know, I know. I'm with you, John, but I, but that's why I asked the question is the question is, yeah. Yeah, it's like, it's like what you said it, though? What are the rules? Uh, here are the rules. The Saudi Arabia will give Trump a big old. gold crown and nobody will say shit about them running comcast and wb let me just put that on the table

right now that's seriously the way it's the way it's the way it's working right now so um yeah uh i i don't think if if soudi's gonna put all that money they're not gonna be like oh well you know just run it the way you know just run it the national security stuff we're through the we're through the looking glass on that with certain countries nowadays simon section glad to see one of my favorite actors being considered for heat too but does anyone remember the announcement christian was going to play john Connor. Oh, good for you. Just saying, chill, let man work. Very different. Man working with Christian Bale and DiCaprio as opposed to, and I, and I just talked about it the other day, lovingly, Mick G. Working with Christian Bail, very, very different. Yeah. Very different.

But, yeah, again, I speak fondly of that because McChie was very kind to invite me to that screening way before it was even the visual effects were done. And he's a, and I, we interviewed him on Claire, he's a very nice person. I liked them a lot, but that movie was just not good. Bobby Jackson. The actress is playing Glenn Powell's wife in the running man is also in Sinners as Perlin. That's what it is. That's what it is. Preach your boys lovers, right? And she was great. She was not good in running. She was good.

They just seemed like roommates. They didn't seem like lovers. They didn't seem like they were married. I didn't believe that they were together at all. Right. At all. It wasn't. It had nothing to do with anything else. That's it. Alex. Can I admit something embarrassing real quick? I always thought Derek Jeter was Puerto Rican. until like two years ago, devastated when I've had out. Flares. Nope, he's not. You're not alone. A lot of people have been surprised. Oh, really?

Came out as black. Like, a lot of people didn't know he was black. That's so funny. I mean, I've been following him for very long time. I've known very, very, very long time. Trey Porter, you guys see public enemies with Depp and Bale. The movie I thought wasn't good, wasn't good, wait, was good. Wasn't really a fan of shooting the movie in digital, but good movie, though. Happy to hear that bail is reuniting with me.

And I have to watch that again. being disappointed when I saw it though. I remember going, because I remember being really pumped up to see that movie and thinking like, it was fine. I liked public movies. I did. It was much more of a contemplative approach that story, so I like that kind of stuff. Maybe

I'm remembering it wrong. I don't know, but I just remember, because who plays a Bulger? Well, no, no, that's Black Mass. A Black Mass. What am I thinking? The one in 1950s? 1930s. Oh, right, right. Two of them. It was Johnny Devin, Marien. and Cotillard in that move.

I saw it. I just got a, I don't remember. I can't remember. Yeah. Sharmacow, December 18th, Avengers, Dune's Day. Yeah, next year, man. It's nuts. Dune has to move, right?

Has to. Be so stupid not to. I agree. Future millionaire. I'd love that. That's my one of my favorite, good for you. Have a good day, guys. You too, Future Millions.

Thank you, future. I love that. Joey Pedrus, Dumasai is almost a year away. I think it'll keep the next December date. It can't. I feel like we haven't heard anything for a few months. It was, it only had that date before Avengers lived there. It has to move.

And I, and I found a spot for it in when we were going through it last week. In like the beginning of November, there's like something that, you know, is, there's like not a big opening, nothing going up against it. I think they'd be very beginning of November, but like everything else, there's nowhere to go. Yeah. Yeah. Dick Smoker. My eyes. See Oppenheimer. Really good. Um, 106, John. 106 is we're, pushing to the end there. So there you go. 106 and John Roka hit it. Hit the 100 guys rule.

Thank you guys for being here today. And I'm going to get John one more shot here. Tell you where to go. What you got going on? Please head on over to YouTube.com slash John Roker says that the John Roker channel. Either I'm going live tonight or the we're going live with the hot mic tonight. There's a lot of stories, especially that he too story. Now we're going to talk about it with Jeff for sure.

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