The Kristian Harloff Show - Is the Superman Legacy cast going to be revealed at Comic-Con?

Episode Date: May 19, 2023

Come see us in NY June 23 http://www.thekristianharloff.com The Superman Legacy rumors have been heating up on who will be cast. The question is WHEN will they be announced. We think Comic-Con in July.... Loki and Echo were pushed back and is the MCU trying to bury echo? Will Loki season 2 seal Jonathan Majors fate as Kang? This and more on today's episode of The Big Thing Capes and Cowls with Kristian, Winston and Coy! #DC #DCU #superman #marvel #MCU  ATHLETIC GREENS: Go to http://www.athleticgreens.com/BIGTHING RUMPL: http://www.rumpl.com/thebigthing EXPRESSVPN http://www.expressvpn.com/thing   CARBON HEALTH: https://carbonhealth.com/virtual-care/telehealth OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-big-thing-kh-channel?ref_id=27393 FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1KPH42T0TP0PG?ref=cm_sw_em_r_un_un_djbxgIW5ZQMMg SCHMOEDOWN ARCHIVE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMovieTriviaSchmoedownArchives Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/harloff Become a Patreon of the Schmoedown: http://patreon.com/schmoedown OTHER GREAT CONTENT: REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT368qY7sfE0nKE4c04CqGvu TV REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT1LU-t2Z9AD5UJDiWW4pS_E STAR WARS SHOW https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT0XmfpbblkF9PY7uO2qhbN6 THE BIG THING PODCAST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT3KAwbzDsv6mdR-gwUiydQg

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Starting point is 00:00:48 So thank you to Carbon Health. Really, really happy to be working with them. Check out the link in the description. Hey, everybody, what's up? It's Friday. It's the big thing. It's capes and cows, man, and the crew is back together. Me, Koi, and Winston. We're here, and so are you. And we're going to talk about a lot of different things. Yes, we talked about that Superman casting, but I didn't talk about it with the guy. So we're going to talk about the potential Superman casting and what it means. What does it also mean? We know that the writer's strike has done a lot of different things, man, has pushed a lot of stuff. And we know Loki's been moved back. And now Echo, not only is it going to be still in 2023. That show is dropping something Disney has not done. They're dropping at all. once. What does that mean? Does it mean the quality of the show? Does it mean that the studio was prepared for it? All of that. Speaking of things that maybe Marvel was not prepared about is the Jonathan Major situation. Well, there's a report that potentially the new season of
Starting point is 00:01:40 Loki is going to explain his future as Kang. What's that all about? We will talk about that more. Guardians, box office, keeping strong. So tons of stuff to talk about in the world of comic book movies. And then there's something the guys told me about in comic books that I said, really, how's that going to work. And what the hell that is? Well, you've got to watch the show to find out. So that's an intro with a migraine headache. So let's get into it, everybody. It is capes and cows. It's myself and Winston and Coy. I'm ready. And so are you. Let's do it. It's going on. Everybody, welcome back to the big thing. Caps and cows. That's myself. Winston A. Marshall. And Louis Gossett, Jr. No, Coy. Coy John is here.
Starting point is 00:02:33 goes to Rome for two weeks, comes back, no respect. No respect, you got tons of respect. But I give Winston. Winston has more respect than you do. You know why? Because you watched my dog for five days. Oh, that's nice.
Starting point is 00:02:43 How was your trip? It was good. Other than LAX. I only know you left because of your LAX when you returned. LAX is the worst dump of an airport that has ever been created. I was there 12 hours earlier
Starting point is 00:02:53 and I was like, this is all accurate. They're trying, but the problem is they don't have nearly enough land. Yeah, there's no infrastructure. But the problem was when we landed, We got through customs and everything pretty good. But we show up, we get to the, it's the pickup area. Yeah, the pickup's chaos.
Starting point is 00:03:08 It's chaos. That's what I'm saying is that when they built the airport initially, like this entire city, they were like, ah, this should be more than enough. There is not nearly enough you need to expand out. Everything. They're going to build it out. Yeah. And my wife was like, well, it's a Monday night.
Starting point is 00:03:22 It's going to be. And I said, stop what you're going to say. I said, it's going to be all. I said, what you're about to say is that it's Monday night and LAX traffic shouldn't be bad. LAX traffic is always bad. But ironically, Sunday and Monday night are the two worst nights. So like because people are coming. Because people are coming back.
Starting point is 00:03:41 So even though like some people have a lot of people just take that extra day off. Yeah. Because they think the same thing is that you're like. Everyone is there Monday night. It's it's atrocious. Dark times. Dark times. Good for us.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Yeah. We stayed at a nice resort as the, the, the, the, ex-caray, Mexico. Cool. And it was a really, you know, all-inclusive. Yeah. So that was easy. Tuck in. Be cozy.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Yeah, those are easy. But Pools got to see the family. My daughter gave the best speech of the night. She was so cute. We had to record it. I showed the guys before we started. But like, and she upstaged me and we were happy about that. So it was good.
Starting point is 00:04:18 It was good. But there was some stuff that kind of went down. Let's talk about this first story, which is the Echo and Loki thing. All right. Let's get into that. All right. So at the Disney upfronts, there's a presentation. in New York, Kevin Feige, producer and the president of Marvel Studios and the CCO provided a new look
Starting point is 00:04:36 at three upcoming series on Disney Plus, starting with Secret Invasion, arriving on June 21st. We knew that. And then the release dates for Loki and Echo. Now, Loki, season two, is coming out. We knew it was coming out in October, October 6th. The second season of Marvel Studios, Loki, will arrive on October 6th, picking up where season one left off. and viewers will see Loki in a familiar but strange place, yada, yada, yada. Now this was the one that everybody was like, oh, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Echo, when you know when it was coming out, November 29. And they're going to arrive on, it's going to arrive at November 29, 2023, with all of the episodes dropping onto the streaming platform that day, which tells the origin story of Maya Lopez, whose ruthless behavior in New York catches up with her in her hometown. That was the big news, but it's, I think they kind of buried it a little bit too, Because we were hearing for a while. Remember that I had gotten an email from the same person who told me about this potential Star Wars show with Calcestis, right?
Starting point is 00:05:39 Had also told me weeks before, months before, I guess, that Echo was in trouble. And that Echo was, and I had asked. And I reached out to someone at Disney first. And I said, this is what I'm hearing before I talked about it. And they said, and the person at Disney said, not true. I haven't heard that is what they said to be fair to them. So it's,
Starting point is 00:06:02 you probably might not want to, you know, say that. So I held off on it. And then reports started coming out that it was in trouble and everything we started talking about it. This show is in trouble. This is, I think that this, if they're dumping all the episodes right away,
Starting point is 00:06:17 I don't feel like this is going to be a good show and they're hoping that people will like some of the episodes because they can watch them in bulk. What do you think? There's a macro to this. I think no one's talked about. October going right in November. And in the middle of it is the Marvel's release.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Right. So they're putting everything that was the end of the old era out at once. People are talking about how they're dumping echo. People are talking about how we're getting a late Loki. They're literally putting three properties, kind of the last three, that were of the old era, within eight weeks. That's insane. So literally it's going to be four weeks into Loki. We get, or three weeks into Loki, we get the Marvels.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And then four weeks after that, I don't think the Loki show is going to be done. within, it's going to be like a week done, and then the Marvels is going to be rolling into its drop as this show comes out and it all comes out. So by mid-November. Wait, wait. So October, though, wait. So October 6 is that what I said? October, the beginning of October.
Starting point is 00:07:10 What do we say? So October 6th, I think, is what we said. We have the technology. There it is. Now we can read. October 6th. So if it's what, seven weeks? Yeah, six or seven episodes.
Starting point is 00:07:18 So that would be mid-November. And November 10th is the Marvel's. So what I'm saying is red is the Marvel's box office drops. Echo comes out. And then Echo's going to be talked about for one week because they're dropping it all at once. That's the problem with binge culture is people talk about it for week. We've said that as a negative and a positive. This is going to be...
Starting point is 00:07:34 I think it's a positive for them. Mid-December, all this is going to be out of the zeitgeist. I think that echo and this is what, I think they're hoping for that. Yeah. I think that they're hoping... If they have a lot of confidence, Winston, in the Marvels, right? And they think the Marvels is a really great movie and they like what they do with Loki season two.
Starting point is 00:07:50 They're going to say, okay, so what we can do, though, is that Loki, will people be talking about it? We go into We go into the marvels. People love it. The box office is winding down. We dump Echo all in one shot. They either love it or hated.
Starting point is 00:08:02 It's gone in a week. And then we can start building on everything else. You know, I've talked to both of you about this, I think. I was just talking to Koi about it on the way over here is I definitely believe that that has like a decent amount to do with it. But I also don't necessarily know. I mean, we'll see when it comes out if Echo is as bad as everybody's fearing. And the reason why is looking at how. the studios are handling the strike.
Starting point is 00:08:27 They intentionally started pulling programming left and right to have in their back pocket. So this is an easy way to say we still have something we could present near the end of the year to kind of keep people rolling in one. Right, that's right. See, that's the thing. I think I'd be more on the... I don't disagree with that point.
Starting point is 00:08:43 I think that the studio absolutely did that. But I think that if that was the case, and this was a good show... Be weekly. Why wouldn't you do it weekly? No, no, no. That I understand. That's why I'm saying I still give you guys that there is maybe an issue with... the show. But I think specifically
Starting point is 00:08:58 because it was always talked about at first it was all coming out this year. And then all of a sudden, all of these properties started getting pulled and we didn't know when anything was coming out. The only thing that stayed consistent were the three movies, even though they were jumbled on their dates. We knew Loki and Secret Invasion were coming. And those were the other two was that Secret Invasion has never changed course. And then Loki's timeline has been pushed.
Starting point is 00:09:17 And I think that is also partially strike, partially Jonathan Majors. I think they were like, okay. And partially the bombardment of Marvel stuff that they had while Chepeg was there. Yeah. So it's all of those factors combined. But I do like the fresh start 2024 approach. I like that it looks like we'll have a clean.
Starting point is 00:09:34 It will feel like a new year. It'll feel like we've talked about how the Captain America for is basically the first of the the new wave. It's the first thing they're filming after the zeit guy shift. We've got some residual shows that are going to be on the back burner in case the writer strike goes as long as I think it will. And we're going to also have giant announcements at Comic Con this year. I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:09:55 so long as the strike doesn't evolve into talent not being able to go. I think this year's Comic-Con is going to be the biggest in 10 years. You know what they haven't mentioned at all is Ironheart. And it's done. For the same reason. For the exact same reason. They do not want to call attention to the fact that they're intentionally holding off on programming. Because Ironheart's done.
Starting point is 00:10:14 And there's nothing about it that sounded like there was a, but for the exact reason of they, you have this situation here that let's say the strike ends in three months. Right? You still have to then take the time to ramp everything back up and go. So the stuff that's done, you do not call attention to it because you need to be like, hey, remember we got Ironheart coming out. So even if the strike ends, you still have programming rolling out. You still have stuff down the line for sure.
Starting point is 00:10:40 But I mean, but it's still part of your, you're right. But the problem is it's still part of your universe that they're still trying to promote because it connects. I think the problem with Ironheart was announcing, like, I love Ryan Coogler, but there's the fact that you know they set that whole thing up to say hey here's our new character and she's going to have a show I think that was a mistake it also feels weird to not have it come out sooner to the movie yes because I wanted iron heart immediately because I was like I liked this character I love Dominique's portrayal a year like it feels weird but here's the issue though I think that they thought because you guys responded to the character I didn't um I thought she was good I just didn't
Starting point is 00:11:21 I didn't see, I was like, I don't need to see a show. And I feel that there's a split camp. I think there's a lot of people who go, yeah, I'd love to see that show. And then I think there's people who are going, I don't know. And I think that they don't need that. They need everybody to go, oh, that character is so awesome. I want to see a show. And that's not the case.
Starting point is 00:11:38 You saw the footage of D23, right? Yeah. And it looks good. I think the issue right now is, and it was interesting. And we were driving over here talking about, like, the way people feel about Marvel. And you have that great sports analogy you guys put up. I feel like there's a common. conversation about phase four being all bad that isn't true. But I feel like, you know, we talk about a lot on the internet. Negativity does better. I think we're looking at with the last two years of Marvel as all bad or mostly bad when it was like not that bad. It just wasn't the high caliber we're used to. Like it just wasn't phase one through three. You guys watched Ted Lasso? Of course. No. Okay. So I'm not the one person that can't get into that show. Really? I love it. I watched like the first like two episodes and I said this is fun. But I was like it wasn't. I wasn't. I was like, I wasn't. I. I was like,
Starting point is 00:12:21 locked in like everybody else. You dug shrinking, though. Love shrinking. Yeah. That I would say give it another shot just because you don't really get into like a lot of the deeper stuff like Ted's mental health issues Yeah, I'll probably try to watch it without my wife. That's probably another reason. Fair. But I bring that up
Starting point is 00:12:37 because in the most recent episode I guess pseudo-spoiler alert, I don't want to hear it. That's fine. It's not, okay, it's not, okay, it's not, all I'll see is this, a main character has hit an absolute peak and then all of a sudden the whole world comes crashing down for them. So it's kind of a similar situation. You hit an absolute peak with endgame.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Once you're at the top of the mountain, there's only so much you can do. You either go back down the mountain or someone's dimensioned in this most previous episode or lightning comes and you can try and deal with lightning and either you catch it or you don't. So I think that's the issue. We hit the peak of the mountain.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And so even though we're now looking to potentially scale another mountain and what they're trying to do, the only place to go right now is down. And so we had to go a little bit down. And I agree with Kui. I don't think it's as far down as people are making it. But that's why I think the split camp is dangerous because if you go down at all, that's all everybody's talking about.
Starting point is 00:13:30 That's why I think they're putting out these three properties within weeks of each other. Because any down right now is all anybody wants to talk about. We had the Wakanda Forever came out and it was well received. People were like, there was no good phase four movies. And I was like, Shang Chi Wakanda Forever. No way. Like there was a stack, but people just want to talk about the negative. You know it was.
Starting point is 00:13:47 And if it wasn't, to me it wasn't as you talk about. of those movies. It wasn't that there was no good Marvel movies. It's that it didn't have the consistency of connectivity of good movies. And that's why I think D.C. is in a way better spot than Marvel. They are. And it just seems like there was more when you looked at phase one, two, and three, that
Starting point is 00:14:03 it all interweaved and felt like a television show and they made it feel like that's what four was going to do. And people are still saying to be fair, give it time, give it time, give it time, let's see. But Winston and I talked about it and we made some shorts out of it and people saw it, but it's like we equated it to sports. And we said that at the moment,
Starting point is 00:14:19 right now, Marvel doesn't have any All-Stars. They have good players. They don't have any All-Stars. Like, could you, I mean, because the Guardian's just retired. Those are the last All-Stars. Spider-Man's an All-Star, he's on the bench. You know, Dr. Strange is, he's, he was an All-Star, but he's, you know, he blew his arm out. I don't even know, see, the funny thing is, I don't even know if he was
Starting point is 00:14:38 an All-Star as he was still a very, very good player. He was Pippin? Pippin was an All-Star, though. Yeah, well, you know what I'm saying? He was like Steve Kerr. He was the situation where it's, like where he's like he's the man when he shows up when he shows up he does oh my god but he had a really good but again the the movie the first movie was fantastic it was it was really good but i don't know if anybody was out here in these streets like i have to have some more but i would call him i would
Starting point is 00:15:03 call him an all-star he might not be peak all-star but i think he's an all-star because if he shows up if he shows up people like oh that's okay he's part of the olympic team that one there's like if i if i'm doing the NBA math correctly i want to say there's like 30 all-stars he's all-star number 30 he's so he may he's The All-Star game. Maybe so. Maybe so. Maybe so.
Starting point is 00:15:22 But he's still. Bill Lambier or whatever. But yeah, with Thor doing as badly as it did, I do feel like that is kind of proving your point. Like Thor not landing. That was the thing that Christian keeps telling me to stay out of the comments, but somebody kept being like, well, the Thor doesn't exist now? And I was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Thor ran right into the wall trying to catch a ball. Yeah. Did we see the same movie? Because he did run to that wall. Thor felt like Mello. Where Mello, when Mello was like that guy and he was the scoring God, like, of course, but then there was a point where Mello just started drifting to different. I mean, you had him on the Knicks for like five, seven years.
Starting point is 00:15:54 He was Mike Tyson fighting too far past his prime. I was going to say he's getting knocked out by bums. He shouldn't be getting knocked out. That's what happened with Thorne. I'm going to go even further. I'm going to say it's Jordan playing baseball. It's the wrong sport. They put him in the wrong movie.
Starting point is 00:16:07 He's actually a great player, wrong movie or wrong sport. And I'm like, oh, look at that over there. He's out there. He's got the potential. Yeah, but he's also seems to be not wanting to play the game anymore. Yeah. So that's why there are no. no all stars yet.
Starting point is 00:16:21 I'm not telling you you can't build them because someone said, I'm not saying they're not coming. Because someone said to me, you know, and I saw it somebody tag me, I saw your sports and Chung Chi's on an all-star? Nope. Great game. No, he's rookie to year.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Great player. Rookie of the year. Rookie of the year. I would say there's two of the year. Kamala Khan and Chung-Chi, I think are rookies of the year. I think Malikon's got the potential. Yeah. I think she's,
Starting point is 00:16:41 because the Marvel's trailer was like her. But that's what I'm saying. There's no all-stars yet. And that leads into people going, you know, you can have good movies. all day long. But if you're not following those people, you're not excited to see them in the other movies,
Starting point is 00:16:54 it doesn't work as much because like when Tony Stark would show up in someone else's movie, you're like, yeah, or the same thing. Like, you know, if freaking Black Widow shows up in someone else's movie. Dr. Strange theme credits was a moment. Like, you're right. But I think it's interesting that Brie Larson, as Captain Marvel for me,
Starting point is 00:17:10 was a bigger pop in wrestling. That's a term of wrestling, right? Yes. Brie Larson in FastX was a bigger pop for me than seeing Captain Marvel pop up. Like when I saw her character in Fast X. That's the because you like her more as an actress. I like Brie more than the portrayal of Carol Danvers.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Me too. So I hope that the Marvels makes the Carol Danvers have that same level of like Brie charm. She could be an all-star. Because the other thing where I think people heard our analogy and immediately got reactive to it is you also have to take in consideration for a lot of these players.
Starting point is 00:17:41 There's not that long of a gap between when they last played and when they get back on the court. Whereas for example, sure, Shang-chi having the potential to be that guy. His movie was what, 2019? No, 2020. 2020. 2020. It was after the pandemic started. It was during. It was right. I thought it was okay. Yeah. It came out because Black Widow came out first and then it. So 2021. So, Chung Chi was the first one where they didn't do, they didn't put it on streaming and it was like,
Starting point is 00:18:12 they were getting back and just like screening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that was 2021. So it's been two years. We literally have not seen the character anywhere. If he had probably been a TV show, if he had been a post-credit scene. It could have built him out. We could have a different conversation. He had a great game and they kept them on the bench afterwards. It's like, it's like, why not use him again? Well, we don't want to overexpose him.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Which is fine. That's why I think they're putting everything they filmed out at once because they're going to start to be more cohesive 2024. I think all of the restructuring, getting rid of some of the powers that be also looking at pivots. I think the reason those three things come out is like, okay, that's the stuff that's not cohesive. Yeah. Please trust us, 2024. Because even further along that line. of not using them, you could make the argument that Yelena is well on her way of becoming an
Starting point is 00:18:54 All-Star or is already potentially there, considering she keeps stealing the show. I'm talking about Florence Pugh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. But the problem, but the difference is and why I say I have more faith in that right now than Shang-Chi, and it's not because Shang-chi can't get there. It's because she's already was in her own movie. And then she's showed up in Hawkeye, and then she's in all these different post credits. Thunderball poster, got us excited.
Starting point is 00:19:14 That's your best argument if someone's going to be arguing against what we're saying, here. Your best argument is what about Thunderbolts? What about because the other All-Stars Bucky and and Mackey, you know, and so you still have, we talked about it. I think like he's on the cusp. He's on the cusp. He's on the cusp.
Starting point is 00:19:33 He's on the cusp of being an all-star Anthony Mackey. That's what's tricky is. I feel like he's got a New Jersey on. He's got a new jersey. And that's you got to get used to it. Yeah. I don't know how much, you don't really fall football. Well, you know what it is quite more so than New Jersey. He's in a different position. Yes. Oh, that's I like that. He's playing quarterback.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Bro, he's, F, Brett Farr, but he's Aaron Rogers taking over for Brett Far. 100%. You know what I'm saying? It's a situation where now this is, what I was thinking, honestly, is Jalen Hertz where he's like, okay, he's kind of been around and like he's got the talent. I think this is the, this next movie is when he makes that jump. Yeah, because he was in, he was, that's what it is. He was an all-star in his position.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yes. And then, but his position was one, he was a great kicker. He was a six-minute of the year, bro. He's a kicker, six-in-a-eachowski. Just booting the hell. He's kicked every, he, anytime that he was asked to kick the ball through, he did it. But now, now they're asking him to throw it into the end. Now they're like, bro, we need to run.
Starting point is 00:20:27 But if I trust anyone to go up a weight class, it's Mackie. Like, I feel like, you know, he's going from 145 to 155. He's going to fight new, like, bigger fighters, but I think he's ready for it. I just think that we need a leader of the team. And he's got, and he's got his partner in, in, in, in Bucky. And so Sebastian, same things. He's, he's, they're both on the cusp, I think, you know, because they, they, they have to be because what they also have
Starting point is 00:20:50 going for them is that they were part of the old regime and now when they walk in people go oh yeah okay great so they have that opportunity the Thunderbolts for sure have that movie has the opportunity to make all story absolutely it a thousand percent does as does I still believe the marvels
Starting point is 00:21:06 depending on how this plays out of what else or what is the best cap four man captain four with all the Hulk stuff yeah it's going to be like a Hulk cap and combo absolutely thunderbolt says it's cap four cap four's got the villain as the leader from Incredible Hulk way back in the it's uh it's gonna have like the betty ross comes back live tyler's in it so like so there's like so much yeah how do you have her come back but not have ruffalo by it's gonna be so what you mean
Starting point is 00:21:30 not norton well no because norton got replaced but i mean you gotta have you i think that would even who's to say that maybe there's something they're just hiding from us because how many times there's people just randomly popped up and we didn't realize that true foil had theory king dynasty reveals were in multiple universes i think it'd be nuts if ruffalo sees live and he's like hey nice to meet you and she's like, I'm Betty Ross and they don't know each other because they like that casting. Like if that's not his Betty Ross. That'd be too confusing, man.
Starting point is 00:21:53 But there's more going into, to Loki. But the thing I love about Hulk, you know, Hulk is coming back. Well, we know she Hulk also. And we don't know how she's going to show up. But like, what's his face is the Thunderbolt to Red Hulk? Yeah. And they're what? They're green.
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Starting point is 00:23:48 You pissed him off because he was like Red Hulk, you idiot. Harrison Ford is it green? Athletic gray for the 60s crowd. No, athletic green also, I want to say, help me survive Italy. because I brought a ton of it with me. And, like, I was eating pasta and pizza, and it was delicious. And I somehow didn't gain a ton away because the food there is real. But I'd let it grays was my morning.
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Starting point is 00:24:23 Because the dairy out there doesn't make my skin look like a giant zit. Yeah, I get I'm saying. Yeah, but it's still Joe's. Show a little. Joe's. Much love, Joe. I want to get into something we were talking about Loki earlier. Let's talk about this Loki story.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Loki Season 2. This comes from Comicbookmovie.com. This is a very interesting article that I don't know enough about yet. Loki Season 2 will reportedly clear up Jonathan Major's MCU future as King the Conqueror. Say what? If a new rumor is believed, Marvel Studios is making plans to address Kang the Conqueror problem with Loki Season 2 reportedly set to explain Jonathan Major's future as the iconic villain. Marvel Studios has a Kang the Conqueror problem.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Jonathan Majors first played the villain in Loki, only to portray literally countless variants of the villain in Ant Man and the Wasp, Quantumania. Now, long after that movie was released, the actor found himself in the midst of an alleged case of domestic abuse that will see him up in court this summer. Things are not looking good for Majors, especially after a text meant to prove his innocence,
Starting point is 00:25:24 instead led to online accusations of emotional abuse as well. As a result, there's pressure on Marvel Studios to recast Kang, though it looks like they're waiting to see how it goes from majors in court first. It's not a good look. It appears a decision may have finally been made, and things have become clear once Loki Season 2 wraps on Disney. According to Scooper, at Alex from CC, who is that? I could be just some guy who'd woke up in the morning and said, I'm going to do that. Alex Pete. But, or could be somebody connected. We don't know. Nonetheless, there are no plans to ditch the ongoing multiverse storyline that is set to culminate with the Avengers Kang Dynasty
Starting point is 00:26:00 in Avengers Secret Wars. However, Major's future will reportedly become clear by the time Loki ends. With the series pushed back to October 6th, that leaves enough time for reshoots, which can clear up the actress future or lack thereof, as can. Perhaps something will happen which results in the villain's appearance being changed. A simple recast would be easier, but Marvel rarely heads down that road. Hopefully we'll have more details to share with you soon. The tweet from Alex P. is no, absolutely not. Marvel's too far deep into the multiverse lore to back out with Kang. The multiverse saga will continue, but for majors, everyone will have their answer.
Starting point is 00:26:37 They're looking by Loki season two. Now, I don't know who the hell Alex P is, but he could, I'm not, I'm not, I don't want to do is say, like, oh, it's Alex P. Alex P. could be a Disney executive sitting in his toilet somewhere to say, screw this. I'm saying, I don't know who he is. Or he could just be some guy who's on. Alex P. Keaton, bro. Yeah, hell yeah. I haven't watched that Apple Doc yet.
Starting point is 00:26:57 No, I haven't. I'm going to, on Michael J. Fox here. It's really good. Anyway, let's just do speculation here. Let's say this is true. What do you think? Because it's like, yes, they are, they should wait to see. It goes back to the same conversation I think we've had many times over.
Starting point is 00:27:18 The first part of that is, okay, Marvel majors, publicist, agent, all of these people. they know more about the details of the case than we do because the reason I give the big example on that with the publicist and the managers are they got rid of them right away when this all went down. So this agent, I think, right? He's got one of this team, yeah. He got rid of, a lot of people got rid of them
Starting point is 00:27:42 and projects get dropped and all that. But if there are other agents and managers knowing that Marvel has not dropped them yet and knowing that Marvel is going to spend a lot of money with this guy, don't you think that other agencies and PR firms would be chomping at the bet to say, okay, fine, you guys dropped them, we'll take them. I don't think they would publicly until they got cleared. But that's what I'm saying, though.
Starting point is 00:28:07 It's like they, because you would look at the details. And the thing is, too, is like, because if Marvel hasn't dropped them, now if Marvel dropped them, then everyone's backing up, but Marvel hasn't dropped them. So there's, there are phone calls. What I'm saying is there are phone calls taking place of information. The contingency plans. Yes, to find out what is happening because of. Oh, I bet they've shot an alternate.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Like, I, I, they might Parnassus this. Have you ever seen the imaginary of Dr. Parnassas? Yeah, but I don't remember. So when, when Heath Ledger passed, he was a third of the way into filming this film. And Johnny Depp, um, Jude Law and Colin Farrell all stepped in and finished his role for free and, like, donated the money to his daughter. And it was this really beautiful thing to bring the story together. But the way they were able to tell this story was every time he went into this mirror,
Starting point is 00:28:47 he was able to come out with a different face. And they made the story about that transformation. And it became a more beautiful story, I think, and it's a great send-off. What they could do with this is have Victor timely at some point transition. And you'll probably see a few different Kangs. He might transition into a person in Loki. And they've probably shot it as like a, well, yeah, yeah. Just in case.
Starting point is 00:29:07 The leading up to it stuff, that's how they would do. I'm just saying, though, there's more information that the inside people know than any of us have. And because if, like I said, if I was running a peer firm or agency or anything, I'd be like, what do they really know? Because he should stay. and why aren't his lawyers fight? Because he's going to, he's not, we saw the evidence and everything he's got.
Starting point is 00:29:29 He's going to be okay in court, and he's going to fight this, and he's going to win. Here's the only thing that's really interesting to me and I'm trying to figure out because I know for a lot of rep deals, it's lifetime stuff. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:40 So meaning if you sign up for a seven picture deal and like Christian, you're my manager and you're the one that gets it, even if we part ways, you were on that deal, so you still get your cut regardless, but you're just still getting your disson. Not of you dump me, though.
Starting point is 00:29:56 It depends on the deal. It depends on the deal. It really depends on how it was negotiated. A lot of them end up being the impetuity of those projects. Yeah, but it again depends on the deal, right? So the deal would be definitely if he dumped them, then they were like, okay, fine, you're going to pay us for. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:14 King Dynasty was we signed that contract. That's fine. We made that happen. So you dump us, we're still getting paid. We dump you, I mean, because, like, I don't know. If you dump me and then someone else picks me up, why the hell am I still paying you? It's like, so that's one thing. But it's either way, the idea of cast, it seems as if with everything leading the way it is, it seems like you're probably right.
Starting point is 00:30:39 There's going to be contingency plan. They're probably going to recast because they have the fallback of the multiverse to say, well, you know how, who is it, Stephen? Who played older Loki in the show? Oh, what's his name? I love it. Yeah, from, from, you grant? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Yes. It's like something like that, you know, like the, not him. There's like also, you know, but you know what I mean. But there's no like rules to the multiverse yet. It's driving me insane because Dr. Strange should have been different Dr. Strangers and he wasn't. And then Loki is, is not a nexus being, but there's like different loki's. And then sometimes, like, the rules in the comics are very clear.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Clear. And like, that's with 30 writers. The universe, I really hope they summarize it by Kang Dynasty. But now the one person that can answer the question. might get recast. I was going to say that's the other weird part about it is like you said,
Starting point is 00:31:28 I mean, the Dr. Strangers should have looked different and they didn't. But like you said the Loki's did. But then all the Cangs all look like John LaMager. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:35 But here's the problem though. And the Liz Banks, she's an exs peeing. So I was like, okay, this makes sense. She's an exospeeing. But then when Loki wasn't,
Starting point is 00:31:42 and then Dr. Strange was, and they didn't say anything about it. But here's the problem. You guys, as you mentioned in the last segment, right? You talked about how there's not a lot
Starting point is 00:31:50 of bad movies. and that variable might be true. And the problem is, this is very reminiscent of Lucasfilm in the way that phase four to me is being run the same way Lucasfilm is. Maybe not to that extreme of mishandling stuff. But the perfect example of that is when Wanda Vision,
Starting point is 00:32:09 the writers for Dr. Strange didn't even watch it. And they couldn't yet because it wasn't finished, right? Then don't make the movie at that time. Don't have it come out. If you want everything to come out, And he wanted it all to make sense. First of all, demand that these people watch it. Freaking, what's his face?
Starting point is 00:32:27 Sam Ramey didn't watch it. The writers didn't watch it. It was confusing. It didn't play right. It screwed up the multiverse in general. It's almost like a side adventure. If you're Kevin Feige, you've got to go, no, everybody needs to watch it. Everybody needs to, what did I just hear it?
Starting point is 00:32:40 I don't know if I heard this. Oh, I heard a story about Kevin Feigey. I don't know if it's a public story, so I don't want to say it. But it's just his intent, basically the gist of the story is how involved he was. in the first three phases and how he would take meetings with these writers and make sure that he knew everything that they were doing and the way they were pitch, he cared, he was involved in it.
Starting point is 00:33:00 And I'm not saying that the case now, but the man is busy. And when you have stuff like that, that's a perfect example. What you guys just talking about, there's no rules to it all. It's kind of all over the place. You said it best yourself.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Thank you. It is. I can't ever give you a compliment. I should have learned this by now. It just not so a conversation. The MCU, even before it had TV shows, was a giant serialized TV show. Yeah. So the idea of having a quote-unquote writer's room here, and you have to plot out a whole season of television.
Starting point is 00:33:34 And the random writer on episode number 20 goes, I'll give a damn what was happening the rest of the season. What were the points? Okay. She got kids. Cool. She's going to look for her kids. We're not going to give you, like, we're just going to loosely, whatever. They're not going to care because it's going to look cool.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And we're going to have Professor X come out. No, no, no, no, no. You're in that room, and everything that has happened prior dictates what happens in your episode. You don't get to do that. We're going to talk about James Gunn in a minute, but I love the new quotes about James Gunn basically saying, like, I consulted on all of phase three. And he was the comic guy to Kevin Faggy being the executive. And I love that their relationship allowed for cohesive movie and cohesive comic reference. And it all came together.
Starting point is 00:34:15 James Gunn apparently wrote the Infinity Stone stuff in like 90 minutes because he's such a comic nerd. he was able to speak film to Kevin Faggy and then he was able to bring the comics in. We didn't have that as much. And I think that is part of that feeling of disconnect that I really honestly think originally was going to be solved in phase five. And then I think the combination of overambition,
Starting point is 00:34:34 I think the pandemic, I think bringing in people that didn't read the past, doing the streaming, but also the lack of giant writers room. You need that, like if I get hired to write Mission Impossible Nine, I should watch eight. A hundred percent. You should watch all eight of them.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Right. But, but, and to be honest with you, that brings us right back to the strike. I don't know. These producers need to pay people and let them do their job because they need to be able to. But when they are doing their job, help them and say, hey, listen, we, I know that we're, I know that the studio is pushing us to basically put this movie out in March. Well, guess what, studio? It's not, you want a better product, you know, then you let us finish our other show that you made us do.
Starting point is 00:35:16 You, hold on, but you, but you made us do. this show because you want on all these streaming shows well it's out now it did really well people like it and but you'd not give me enough time to show my writers what the hell they have to do for this movie and this is one but this is one example of a lot of the stuff that they've done no no you're you're spot on and that's all correct I thought that was another crappy segue into like better help or something like see if you get all your writers you need to get them help so better help you got to make sure this you take care of your mental's like that's so much tangents have thrown us I mean, Winston, coming in.
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Starting point is 00:38:49 And I think Marvel is going to not be the team anymore. I think DC is for the first time really poised to take over if they get these movies right, the first one. And here's all this potential casting now that's coming out. And so let me tell you the first one that we've talked about all week here.
Starting point is 00:39:12 All right. So this David, Corrin Sweat rumor just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And there's like fan art about this guy and everybody else's talking with this Wolfgang guy also. I looked at the two photos. I don't know either one of them as far as how they're acting goes. My personal opinion is that Dave and Corrin Sweat looks more like Superman. I think Wolfgang looks way more like a model.
Starting point is 00:39:32 It looks like a straight up model. Very pretty boy. Like they're both very pretty. He's like model pretty. You're right. It's different. Wolfgang looks like a straight up model. And maybe it's just the pictures.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I'm not judging on their acting. I could see them, but I'm just people going, oh, you haven't seen them this, you're right. I could absolutely see video footage of the two of them and go, I don't know, I'm changing. I'm telling you, look alone to me that Corn Sweat looks more like Superman. But anyway, the rumors are
Starting point is 00:39:56 that Cornswit's in the running for Superman legacy, according to the Hollywood Reporter. The upcoming movie, which will be written and directed by Guardians of the Galaxy's James Gunn is seriously narrowing down its search for its lead, and he'll be playing Lois Lane and Lex Luthor, too. When it comes to the Man of Steel, cornswet is said to be the top
Starting point is 00:40:13 contender, having recently held his opposite against Mia Gauth in Pearl. Before that, he appeared in Ryan Murphy's The Politician and Hollywood. The screen test stage for Superman legacy is likely to take place after Memorial Day or in early June, so it might not be too much longer until casting announcements are start to be made. Hollywood, we just wait. I'm just wait until we talk about that. The Hollywood reporter states that two others are in with a chance of bagging the role of soups, though their names have not been disclosed. I bet you Wolfgang is one of those guys. The publication does suggest, however, that Euphoria's Jacob Ellorid isn't linked to the part, despite fan speculation, yada, yada, yada.
Starting point is 00:40:56 That's a shame. This is really good. This is what Gunn said. Gunn said, I completely relate to Superman because he's everything I am. Gunn previously told THR as part of its April cover story. He's somebody who is an outsider who feels like an alien, but also the ultimate insider because he's effing Superman. And that's kind of what it feels like. Superman Legacy, which will kick off the DC slate.
Starting point is 00:41:17 It's scheduled to release on July 11, 2025. Okay, so there's a lot here. The rumors, by the way, we'll talk about it in a second of Lois Lane is Rachel Brosnahan. From Mrs. Mayhill. And two other great actresses. I really liked. Okay, who are the other two of these?
Starting point is 00:41:34 I don't know their names. I watched clips of them when they were trending, and I was like super impressed by both of them. And then the Nicholas Holt, I kept seeing rumors that he was Lex Luthor, than I heard that he was rumored for Superman. I heard it was up for both. I really hope it's not Superman. Superman was a terrible choice.
Starting point is 00:41:49 I think he would be better as Lutheran. Honestly, because I'm tapping, he's done a lot of stuff. I do need to, I was Renfield, by the way. Oh, so much fun. Renfield was fun, but it's, it's forgetting it. How was he, though? Oh, he's great, and it.
Starting point is 00:42:02 So, like, I think of at least what I saw of him in the trailers for that, but I just think of him as beast and those moments where he's really just distraught and whatnot. I think he could really bring. something kind of twisted and sinister to Luthor, then I think that that would be wonderful casting if they go that route. Yeah, and then so for Lex, he's the only one that's kind of rumored for that,
Starting point is 00:42:22 so that's why I think that it's possible. Samara weaving is the other one. As Lex Luthor? Yeah, as Lex Luthor. She'd be great, man. As Lex Luthor. Just savor bald? I'm here for it. For Lois.
Starting point is 00:42:35 So Samara weaving, I mean, she's got a good look, for sure. I don't know her that well, but Samara weaving. Dude, she's so talented. She's so good. She didn't. She had a lot of stuff. The babysitter. She's the girl that gets killed in the alley in the new one.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Oh, okay. She's the glorified cameo as a reference to Ready & Not. But yeah, they're right there. You can see him. I know you're searching. But yeah, no, she's really good in this Netflix two movie series called The Babysitter. Yeah. Phenomenal in that.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Like, she's like that, she's one of those people that has been. Right there. There and not there. When I talk about when there's casting, the people that are right in the cusp, she's exactly there. Like where it's. She's ready to be the household name. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Well, let's see. And the other name was Phoebe Denver, Dinavore. I don't know her either. I'm sure she is. Bridgetton? I don't know. I don't know if that's true. I don't know if that's true.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I don't know if that's true. And then Rachel Brosnan. And then Emma. Emma Mackey was the one I was really excited. Who's in? Emma Mackey's in. I watched clips. I don't know her work.
Starting point is 00:43:35 I just was impressed with the clips I saw. But to me, she looks like so much like Lois Lane. It's incredible. Let's see. The look wise so far. Yeah. Like that to me is like... Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Yeah, Emma Mackey looks very low. So she's coming into... Well, that's in Barbie. What's that? What's that from? There she looks like Samara Weaving. That's from a sex education, I believe. Yes, but Emma Mackey.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Emma Mackey's got a... She's got a good look for sure. She just like looks like an intrepid reporter to me. I still will tell you, though. I think for me, Rosnahan is my choice. Had all of them. I think she's got to me. Show me her again?
Starting point is 00:44:08 Do you watch amazing? I know, but I know I've seen her before. I just... Just, she's five three. Oh, wow. You put her on an albumbox. Yeah. I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:44:18 She was that small. She looks so tall and Maisel. Yeah. She's incredible. Yeah, she's great. I like her a lot. I think she can carry the, she absolutely can carry the weight of Lois Lane and the personality.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Like that's, I mean, yeah, she also has that intrepid reporter vibe. She does. She speaks really well. Like the Amy Sherman Palladino dialogue is no easy feat. And there's a certain like pantameter to it that would, I think,
Starting point is 00:44:41 translate to James Gunn's dialogue as well as the comic book dialogue because you got to keep in mind not only are you in a giant $100 million movie but there's certain lines you have to say that are ridiculous. Like casting for superhero films is like Sarah Haley Finn over at Marvel does art.
Starting point is 00:44:54 What you have to do to get not just the right actor, not just the right time in their career, but also people that can say like Gadzukes and make it work. Yeah, I guess my only pushback with Rachel Brosnahan is just from the standpoint of knowing her acting and how strong as she is, I am not saying that Lois Lane is not an important character
Starting point is 00:45:11 in a major keystone, but I would love to see her actually be the lead of something because Lois is still technically a supporting character, even with her being as big as she is. It's a pretty big role, man. I'm not saying it's not, but there's a part of me, unless there's some Lois Lane movie coming at some point,
Starting point is 00:45:29 you know what I mean? I think Lois Lane, if you're talking about, if you're talking about as a superhero leading her own movie, I think that Rachel Brosnahan would fit that type of role better than she would, you know, I don't know. And what are some of the other female big team? She'd be a decent back girl. I think that, but at the same time,
Starting point is 00:45:45 I think Lois Lane is maybe the biggest name in D.C. that isn't in a Cape. I agree with that. I just, the only thing that at one point I would want to see her, like, fine, give me a Lois movie at some point. I just, I don't, it doesn't mean that like when you have
Starting point is 00:46:01 those situations, like when Amy Adams brought to Lois Lane, doesn't mean that it wasn't huge and all that kind of stuff. But like, I don't know, I just want to see. I think she can have a lot more to do. than previous lowest lanes. I also think they'll finally have a love story in a superhero movie. I was talking about this on Real Rejects a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:46:19 It was really interesting to look at what we did with 90s and 2000 superhero movies. And then at some point in the 2005 era, we just like got rid of relationships. Like there's this thing in all these superhero movies where it's like, Pepper and Tony are in love, but they seem like they just work together. And like there's so many, like there's a lack of chemistry or sexual tension or anything in these movies.
Starting point is 00:46:38 That's kind of weird when you've got these characters that are like saving each other's lives. I thought Donner did it great. Yeah. I thought Donner did it great. That's what I'm saying pre-2005. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think those movies had an adult friction that when the Eternals came out and they showed someone's like exposed clavicles and people like rebelled.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I was like, these are the biggest movies in the world. If we get rid of all sex, people are not only going to be exposed to 10 times the violence because they already are. But also if you make it weird that people are like making new life. And that's, well, that's the, their love story is and you can do it without them banging in the clouds. That's for Homelander. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:10 But it's like they, that's. Right. And, you know, but I hope so because that's one of the main things is that's also the human side of Clark. Right. That you're going to see. But I didn't feel with Henry and Amy personally. That bathtub scene, that water was cold. Yeah, no, no. It wasn't, but it wasn't the focus.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Wasn't? It was. Yeah, it wasn't the focus. And it was destroyed. Yeah. What a cold. What a cold. What a real cold.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Never heard of. But it wasn't. But it wasn't, no. It wasn't, no. It wasn't focused. It wasn't the focus. And Lois and Clark is the name of a show for a reason, is the name of an entire world. And I think if you're going to start DC, it'd be really nice to have a movie that's made for all ages to include the adult all ages with, like, let love be love.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Like, let it be seen. But what I like about all, I will tell you this, very similar when we went into over a comic book movies list that they do. Their Batman list was great. There was, what was the one that we didn't love? We didn't love their Hal Jordan. We didn't love their Hal Jordan, but we liked their John Stewart. Yes. So this is, if you're looking at this is like what, like comic book movie list, right?
Starting point is 00:48:15 Well, this is actually more, that was them just making a list. This is the potentials. Yeah. There's not a lot that I'm going, no, I hate the choice of Nicholas Haltas as Superman. Hate it. I absolutely. I'm just curious. Hate it because I don't, because I think that he's able to, because not that I don't think you pull it off, I think he could.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I like the idea of plucking someone you never really know who the hell it is. and saying who's that guy, that's Superman. Because Nicholas Holt is Beast. Nicholas Holt has been in all these different things. Warboy, man. He's great. He's not a huge, like, massive household name yet. The way that I brought him up the other day was he's, like, if I brought him up to show, like, your mom or your dad or anybody to, they go, oh, that guy. Like, everybody watching here, everybody knows his name. But casual fans go, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or something, and the tabloid people who go, oh, that's a guy.
Starting point is 00:49:09 dated a But he would be great as Lex Luthor because he's also, he's got that switch where he can be a real effort. Yeah, no, no, absolutely. That and someone put, I don't know if it was a tweet or an article, but I saw something along the lines of like, kind of what has been the staple
Starting point is 00:49:29 with Superman and Lex Luthor is that Superman is an unknown. And then Lex Luthor is an established star. And somebody who can really act. And Nicholas Holt can really act. Because, like, what, what, it was, it was, oh, my God, how did I forget? Louis Christopher, Christopher Reeves. Gene Hachman. And then Hickman is Hackman.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Yeah. And then you bring in Brandon Roth, who, again, no name at the time, but you have Kevin Spacey. Right. And then now, you had Cavill, who at that point wasn't anybody yet, really. And you had Jesse Eisenberg, who had just come off of, did he win the Oscar, or he just was nominated? Well, he wasn't even in Manist's deal, though. No, no, no, no, no. They didn't have Alex in the man of St.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Okay, so then who... There was no Lex. But then I'm... Rosenbaum and... Shannon. Yeah, Shannon was big. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:50:17 I still think it should be Rosenberg coming back. I mean, I think he's the right age. I think he's what, mid-late 30s? And if they cast like an early 30s Superman, I... But at this point, though... But what you've done, though, is that this is where the clean slate conversation comes in also. Because James Gunn has said, look, I give him credit because I would have liked to see
Starting point is 00:50:36 Henry Calvel come back. I mean, it really would. but he said it's not the story I want to tell. I'm telling a whole new thing. I'm going to cast. People are going to bitching. They're going to moan. You know,
Starting point is 00:50:44 and they're going to not like the fact. I know how beloved Henry is. I get it, but I'm casting the way. I'm casting it. I'm making my thing the way I want to make it. And then I'm going all in and I'm cleaning it all out. There's going to be a new Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:50:55 There's going to be a new Lois. It's going to be all of it. We're going to say, this is going to be our new superman and our new cast for next 10 years. So by bringing in a Michael Rosenbaum or that year. Because then you're going to get people going, Well, you brought Rosenbaum in. Yeah, Cameron Caval. You stay away from it.
Starting point is 00:51:08 It also goes into the shift into the next conversation of the recasting clean slate thing. Yeah, right. No, that's right. The clean slate of it all is that we're getting very, very close to the time point that we've kept talking about. The flash is right around the corner. The flash is coming out. And I have, I mean, I have answers that I can't give right now. But I also want to see how the timeline is going.
Starting point is 00:51:35 to move for James Gunn afterwards about new characters that could come in. Yeah. And new cast people that could come in. And how is that going to shift? Who's going to be Batman? Who's going to do this? Who's going to do that? It's all going to, I think it's all going to make sense after the Flash comes out.
Starting point is 00:51:50 His contract legally started me first, right? When we talked about that when I was like, oh, it was right after Guardians comes out at DC. Like wasn't James Gun? No, no, no, no. It was last year. It was November 1st, I think. Oh, I thought that was like a thing where his contract didn't start until after the press. What we got wrong is I said, I said it was three.
Starting point is 00:52:05 years and it was four years. Oh, okay. So either way, like, I think right now as the press for Guardians winds down and everything else, I think that this June casting is accurate. I don't think we'll get official confirmation until right before Comic Con, and I think they come out on stage at Comic Con. And I think we have Lois. I think we have Lex.
Starting point is 00:52:20 I think we have Clark. Yes. I think we maybe even have Batman. Like, I think, I think this is going to be a pretty crazy. You ain't going to get a Batman. You don't think? Not yet. I think because, because I think they're away from Brave and the Bull.
Starting point is 00:52:29 You don't have anything. It's that. You might get an announcement of a director. Yeah, that's true. for brave and the ball. Maybe a slate gets just filled, but not a cast. Remember, the big rumor was, who was it? Mochetti.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Yeah, it was Mochetti. Yeah. So, I mean, that would be a matter. After Flash comes out, that would be a big, but, but listen, listen. Or as Flash comes out. You say it as. No, no, no, you do it at Comic Con. Well, look at how well James Gunn did, balancing Guardians Press and Superman rumors.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I know, but you do, you do it because you're going to have to have, you, this is their first big show. It's got to be huge. It's going to be huge. James Gunn knows that. He's a showman, but he's going to come out. He's going to hold it, hold it. He's holding in a dump. But they're going to announce Superman for sure.
Starting point is 00:53:13 And they want to keep the focus on Superman because he's the first one. And the other thing is he mentioned before with Brandon Ralph. Yeah. I didn't mind that movie. Didn't do big box office for it. Man of Steel did good. Didn't do it. It's Superman.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Why didn't Superman make a billion dollars for whether it was, and it should have been? I'm sure Zach Nier was seen it's Superman. I love Manna's deal, and I think that movie should have made a billion dollars. But it hasn't been a big, there hasn't been a big huge crushing Superman yet. And that's what they're going for. And that's where they're just going to put the focus on him. Go ahead. You got something to get, bro it.
Starting point is 00:53:46 He's been tense. Wait a minute. You just held that in, and I threw it to you, and you still have the pregnant pause. Because I still needed a minute. What do you got? So we kind of talked about this a baby bit, but I think the one thing we're not. Kevin Spacey coming back is lack. There it is.
Starting point is 00:54:03 You got it. You totally got it. That's what the was about. We're two seconds away from both the DGA and SAG's contracts coming up, and it's already been announced that the SAG board has approved a strike and now it's going to vote to that union. I have a weird feeling that because we're probably going to end up there, Comic-com is going to implode.
Starting point is 00:54:25 It's very possible. With that strike coming up, that includes press. Yes. So that means this idea of we're going to announce our director, we're going to know. No, you're not. It doesn't include press on. So the project's written. It's done.
Starting point is 00:54:37 WGA has no, there's no qualms there. And James won't do rewrites on it if the strike is still going on. So that's done. Right. They're not filming until well after Comic Con. Sure.
Starting point is 00:54:45 It's a matter of solidarity. It's a matter of solidarity. It's a matter of, because legally, I don't think you can, you can stop people from doing press because that's not, no, you can't.
Starting point is 00:54:54 It's a matter of, but it's a matter of saying, hey, we respect the strike. You're promoting these studios movies right now. It's like some ball bag, a month, ago was like, why are you promoting the studios movies?
Starting point is 00:55:05 I'm like, I'm talking about them. If you feel like in this promotion, it's like, go away. But like this is, but them going up there and promoting. That's a different story. I see a more perspective. So it's, so it, you're right. And the strike will still be happening then I think. I think we talked about it on big thing yesterday.
Starting point is 00:55:19 I think that the writer strike could potentially go into 2024, but I think it'll be over by the end of August, September. Because I think that that's, that's what the studio, the studio holds all of the power in this guy's. Like they hold all of them. For now. For now. And that's there.
Starting point is 00:55:37 But what I'm saying is they're not even considering negotiating right now. I mean, if they are and you're going into rooms, it ain't real. They're not going to start negotiating. And for real until like the mid-June July, because they wanted to be over around, they could probably hold out until the end of the year.
Starting point is 00:55:53 I would argue that the reason that they're holding out right now is they know that both the directors and the actors are coming, whether or not the directors actually strike is its own thing. but it's pretty clear that the Sag probably will at this point. So knowing that, there seems to almost be for them, while it seems contrary, almost a better position of power to handle everybody at once and make it almost like a class action type situation. Because it's May June the Sags striker. Then to take one and then, oh, we've got to start another strike.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Oh, we've got to start another strike. They're like, fine, throw it all into one pile. We're going to deal with this at one go. And that's why I'm saying since Comic Con is what, July? Yeah. I don't think that they're going to be announcing anybody because, again, out of solidarity, I'm not going to nothing because all it takes is one person doing that. And sure, it's not illegal, but there are union rules.
Starting point is 00:56:37 I was asking about the legal because you know but deny you. I personally don't want anyone to cross a picket line that stands for what. Because I think these are all precedents. Like these aren't just small things. These are huge precedents. That's why I think there should be a DGA sag and writer strike uniting. Because if AI does what it can do, all of them are screwed. So they need to unite.
Starting point is 00:56:56 But I'm wondering if that contract that has. to be signed is going to override whatever. Like, it's just, they're going to try. Yeah. And if you get, you run the risk of that one person that hasn't quite hit their superstardom yet, and this is their big moment. Like, that's a lot of pressure. What do you do?
Starting point is 00:57:13 Do you say, okay, well, I'll at least go and announce this thing, but run the risk of whatever. So there's that, but you've got this situation where genuinely people are going to kind of stick, like, stand their ground and be like, no, we can't right now. And so that's the thing. I guarantee you that these studios have thought about this and they've thought about what are we willing to lose right now and what are we willing to have, like, be an issue?
Starting point is 00:57:36 And then we'll deal with it later. 100%. That's exactly what they did. And they have a plan and they know all this stuff. And all the strikes, they're prepared for it. So that's why I say they're the empire right now. They know how to battle the rebels, unfortunately. And the rebels are out there fighting the way that they should. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:53 But they just fighting a long game. They're just fighting a long game. But either way, look, there's a lot to talk about. lot that we did talk about here, and I throw it to you guys. What do you think about the potential casting? Do you think it's going to happen at Comic-Con? And do you think Comic-Con is going to happen? Do you think that the studios are going to say, you know what?
Starting point is 00:58:09 We don't think we're going to have a lot of people at Comic-Con. Warner Brothers goes, we're not going to Comic-Con this year. We're not putting the money into it. And that very well could happen also. What do you think about the stuff with Marvel? What do you think about Loki getting pushed? What do you think about Echo? What do you think about all that stuff?
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