The Kristian Harloff Show - Is the world taking UAP/UFO's serious after the hearings?

Episode Date: August 1, 2023

Join the site: http//www.thekristianharloff.com The UAP hearings have started a lot of conversation about the phenomenon but is it enough? Is the taboo too strong to break? When will the mainstream media really take it serious? Does there need to be a big public event in order for the world to take it serious? Kristian Harloff and Mark Reilly discuss the hearings and how it will impact the way we look at it. We are joined on the phone by the very talented artist and believer Attack Peter.  @ATTACKPETER  Join us on Tuesdays for the show. #UAP #UFO #davidgrusch #hearings

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So if you're one of the peeps, look, I will tell you, this hasn't been a lot of people that I've been saying this, surprisingly enough. There have been some comments of like, oh, I thought this is a movie channel and a news channel and pop culture. It's exactly what it is. And you're going to get that on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. It doesn't mean we're still not going to talk about it on those particular shows, but the full episode dedicated to UAPs and everything else, too, will be our Tuesday show for the time being. So if you're aware of that and you know that, don't jump in in the comments and going,

I come to this channel from movie news and this. Don't worry. It's not going anywhere. It's what the heart of this channel is. It's the same thing. It's all that. That's all going to be there. I'm fascinated with this stuff right now.

And as I've always told you, I want to do the stuff that I like talking about. And I'm fascinated by, I think it's the biggest story, and it could be the biggest story that we've ever had in our lifetime. And I'm going to talk about it. If it interests you, then stick around with us and we'll be talking about it. If it doesn't, then just wait, because I'm sure I'll talk about Batman tomorrow. So here we go. We're going to be talking about those hearings. That's really what we're going to be talking about.

We're going to talk more so about the hearings about the coverage of the hearings. yes, there were some news coverage about the UAP hearings, but why wasn't it covered more? Why wasn't it the lead story? What will happen? Will there be more coverage now? I know that that was one of the big pushes. And the other thing is, regardless, if you believe it or not,

everybody, if you follow politics at all, it was one of the most extraordinary things that we've ever seen. In no world would you ever thought that Matt Gates and AOC would be in the same panel? on the same page. So that should tell you something in general. But if you're brand new to the channel, you've never been here before, do me a favor. Hit that button.

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I got Mark Riley with me today. So let's get into it. It's the big thing. I'm ready. You're ready. Let's do it. Yo. What's going on, everybody?

Welcome back. It is myself. Mark Yody Riley. I haven't said that in quite a while. And I love this old-school setup you got going on over here. Oh, the computer and everything, too? I like it. It takes me back.

I know. It reminds me of the old days. The old days. I love talking about this stuff. This is, uh... It's amazing. It's kind of amazing. I mean, it's just...

Well, it doesn't feel like we're in, like, a basement where, like, there are still those people, as you said before we started taping. There's still that stigma around there. It's, that's, yeah. And there's still people going, uh, you're talking about UFOs. You know what the silliest comment? Let me tell you about the silliest comment that I saw so far. Oh, boy.

Now, no, it is. This is a silly one because there's a thing now. Now, I'm not going to tell you that you should trust everything that the government does. You shouldn't. I mean, they even said it on the panel. And that's kind of what the whole point of the – that's what the whole point of these hearings are. The silliest thing that I saw is like, well, isn't it quite convenient that they're doing these hearings

right when all the Hunter Biden stuff is coming out? And I counter with this. First of all, most of the people leading this thing, Republicans! Most of them leading it. A Republican. That's part one. Part two. Every lead story on MSNBC, CNN, everything else.

What's Hunter Barden? What are you talking about? This stupidest thing I've ever heard. I watched all of the hearing, and I'm watching the mainstream news. I'm watching all of the channels. Nobody's covering it. Everybody's covering Hunter Biden. It just wasn't the lead story.

ABC World News, which is what I like, yeah, David, you are right? Yeah, David Mirr, you know. They gave it all of 20 seconds. Yeah, it was like... It was like... Maybe a little more than that, but yes. And they, legit, I am. I'm going down the rabbit hole on this.

They pulled pictures to make these people look not great. The one, I saw that, that David Mirror, they showed Grush like this. Yeah, just like in the center. It was what they do. It's like every time they're talking about Trump and he's seen like sweating and he's like, or Giuliani, he's got to...

Yeah. He's got the mud down his face. It's like Randy Quaid from Independence Day. They really did. To the comments about the movies and stuff, don't worry. I'm going to be throwing in movie commentary throughout this thing. They made this guy look like Randy Quaid from Independence Day.

Hi, boys. I'm back. And I'm like, and when you listen to him, he's the farthest thing from that. Yeah. He's the farthest thing from that. He's so... Guy will kick your ass. He's a Navy man.

But he's so reserved and he had the answers. And he knew what he couldn't say. He knew what he could say. And that was the other part of it. I took notes on this stuff. Yeah. And so what we're going to do here again is we're going to go through the hearing what we talked about and all these other things.

And this is what I will say, because I'm seeing a lot of comments. And I will say this. There's the first thing that I want to reiterate. Every single time that I talk about this thing. And as Bert Chet said, the Republican running this thing, when I'm becoming a fan of Booth,

I don't know what his actual politics are in general. Oh, his politics probably, I didn't agree with. Probably not going to be on the same page. But I like the fight that this guy is fighting. I like him a lot. I like the fight that this guy is fighting. I am so, there's a lot of times that the Republican Luna has said stuff, and I'm like, oof, but she's fighting the fight right now.

All these people are fighting the fight. You got Schiff fighting the fight. You got all these, you got Schumer fighting the fight. It's crazy that they're all on the same page fighting the fight. They're all fighting. It's crazy that they were all, I mean, not what of them. Then they weren't yelling at each other. It was the first time you'd ever see anything like that.

But what I will tell people as I'm talking about this, and as they said, as Burchett said, they're not trying to convince you. Whatever we believe about what this could be, no one's trying to convince you that it's aliens. The main fact is that there is stuff going on in the skies, there is stuff that the government has been holding because I saw some guy comment on the video and saying,

well, you know what my wife says is, why do I care about aliens when there's people dying in the world and these other things? Because if they are lying to you about these, particular technologies and these particular things that they might know about, how do we not know that there's certain technologies or advances in science that they might know that could help those particular things to stop people? We don't know if that's possible. But if they've been covering up stuff as Rush alleges, right? And as clearly the two pilots are saying that they were shut down, that, dude, that stat by graves, about 5% are being reported from the pilots. 5% and that I mean she's like so 95% are not being reported

and again I saw some another silly comment that I've seen that is again just and I know this it's ironic because on my channel in general my mantra is they say like if I'm talking about movie news and stuff they're like do your research and I go no it's not that's not the point of this show

you can't not do your research for something like this you mean you have to so when people so when people say you know the second silliest comment that I've seen. Besides that one about how they're trying to push it to the side and because of, or put it in the forefront because Hunter Biden, which every other, that was the lead story of everything.

Yeah, and nobody cared. And everybody was watching Hunter Biden. Yeah, yeah. But the other thing that I saw was, but isn't it funny that the United States is the only ones who ever see the UFOs? clearly someone who did no research. You can just China.

Brazil. Australia. Did you see, oh, you need to watch the... They're all over the world. Everywhere. Did you see the one?

So it was the Africa one is the one now that's starting to get more. This is from 1994 this case. And it's heavily featured. Do you know this one? I don't know. Probably, probably, but no. You would know it.

So after, again, and I want to, to people who are, watching this for the first time, I'm going to tell you my story of how I started to really go down the rabbit hole on all this stuff, right? I was watching jury duty. Hilarious show. I love that. That's what got you in. Well, yeah, it was jury duty because I was like, oh, those people are aliens. No, I was watching it, and I took a break for a second, and when I went on to Disney, they were promoting it because it's It's through National Geographic.

And it was UFOs investigating the unknown. And I'm like, and I said to myself, oh, this is one of those ancient alien things. I always get a kick out of this. I'll watch the first 10 minutes. Why not? Yeah. With no intention of ever doing this show to do this,

I was like, because I remember I was talking about it, seeing that pilot, I always believed, but I was like, okay, they never really have talked about it anymore. And maybe it was just kind of, you know, things flying around in the sky. They know what it is, and no one's already talked about it. And then you see the how this broke, and you've got Kate McKinnon, what's her, Leslie, Keene, who's just awesome.

And she is, mentioned her in the hearings. They sure did, and as they should. The amount of research that she did about bringing this to light, and that New York Times did it, that they were trying to bury it. Read that article, I would say. And that Harry Reid was the one who was the guy who, who was the one who put this whole thing into play and how there's so many people that you wouldn't even imagine

that knew about this stuff and how many reports there have been and the fact of, oh, they're flying over nuclear facilities and that, this is my favorite thing. So James Fox, and I'm going to tell you about this African one in a second, but James Fox who directed both the phenomenon and moment of contact. James Fox had an interview, and I think it was on Rogan.

And he said that, okay, so there's this one particular, I can't remember the specific case, that these things were, flying over a nuclear facility. Oh, great. And they were scanning the news. This is what is kind of happening. Yeah.

They said they were scanning the nukes. But they all, this is a group of them. They're all like, there's something out there. And there's like a disc. They described it. All this stuff. And they described it. And in the phenomenon, the doc, all these guys talk about it in depth.

These are normal people that were working at nukevitz. And he said, James Foxx, well, let me ask you. If these guys are lying And they're crazy Well, who put them in the nuclear seats? Like, that person should be fired. If these guys all at one point went crazy at the same time. These are all military people.

Yes. So what I tell people when they go. A lot of them. Pilots. But the one as far as that comment goes, you never only see it in, because someone just wrote to me on Twitter. Oh, do they have hearings on it? Only in America, do they have hearings?

No, they've had press comments. conferences and hearings and all this stuff all over the world for years about this stuff. It's not making, it's not covering this news. Nobody's covering it because of that. It's always going to go to the stigma because my wife, God, love her, you know, I watch this. I watched the hearings. Right. She walked by me.

I'm like, I play literal like, do they have actual physical parts? That's what everyone. And non-human remains. Yes, they do. This is what they were saying. This is what alleged. alleged right now this is what people are saying is happening. My wife, lover, walks by and goes,

why didn't we hear about this sooner? I don't know, you know, and goes off. And I'm like, okay. And she's like, you want to watch fire in the sky later? You're all into aliens now. I'm like, yeah, let's watch that movie. That's a great movie. But that's the point.

I think it just goes to this realm of, this is funny right now. It's sci-fi. And I think sci-fi movies have taught everybody to believe that it's outside the world. realm of possibility because we've had every version of aliens and all their various forms, the nicest alien in the world in E.T. to close encounters to, what is it, Mac and me, I mean, that little shit and then. That's the name of the original. Right? Mac and me and then,

and then we have all the, you know, War of the Worlds and what have you, Independence Day, but. But no, it is that thing, though. I don't know. So what's going to, what is it going to take to cross over into what we're talking about? You said it. You said it. You said it. I don't know if it was last week, on the air, off the air, maybe both. And I think Leslie Keen said it as well, too. It's going to have to be one of those events that you just. Yeah, she said it. Yeah.

You just, that you just, that you just, that you just, that at this point, the people who are covering up going, ah, we can't, we can't, we can't cover that up. Like, I don't know what you. Yeah, that's, there's no. Yeah, like, there's no. How about we say it? No, we can't say it. How about we can say it's, no, it's over.

It's over. You need one of those. Weather balloon. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's not going to work this time. That is what you're going to need in order to convince the real naysayers. Like, people, colleagues of ours that I've seen all over Twitter and people that we, that, you know, are starting to see this stuff.

And they said, and without doing the research, they say the same things. Well, this guy, this guy, Grush, he says that someone told him who told somebody, who told somebody, and that's what always happens. And if you're just following this thing because it's in the news, I think that is more than a fair opinion to have because you're going, oh, here we go again. But when you do the deep dive of A, who this guy is, what he's allowed to say, what he's not allowed to say,

why he would risk his career as a well-decorated operative to fill out a whistleblower report and basically not being able to follow the rules on that report in general. the two pilots who have never had any, this, what's his name, Fraber, was the damn. Fravor, Graves, Grush, all three of these guys, high ranking. Fravor was the lead. He was the lead. He was the captain or whatever the ranking was.

He was the lead guy. Why are they going to risk that? Why are they going to risk that? And it's three. And why I feel very strongly about this is new people coming in. I've had my own experience that I actually... Yeah, that's on the last one. You can see that.

Yeah, that I actually believe I saw something at UAP, whatever you want to call it, UFO. It was one of the most surreal events of my life. I always filed it away as like, nah, nobody's going to believe that stuff because my own stigma, the own belief that this is just something that I'm now part of that club, you know? I saw something and you're drinking a beer and I remember that time in Michigan. Right. Now you have people coming forward. risking their career.

There's no reason. And whether there's smoke, there is fire, and there's now visual proof, too. You know, this stuff, the Tic Tac. And I know people go, oh, that was made. Well, there's tons of it. There's tons of it. And I've seen people still, as we said. Okay, that's fine.

I just, I look at the examples given, the people that are out there putting their neck out there. And now, listen, you want to see Republicans and Democrats come together? when the shit hits the fan and these things come out we're ready. These guys are ready. But I don't think, but I think that, but I also said, Burchett said that also

Right. It's just right. I mean, I joke. I know what you're saying, but Burchett Breschette was saying, more so saying, like, if this technology, because even if you listen to Fraber, I always get his name wrong, Fraber. Fraber. Fraver, if you listen to what he said and you listen to what Burchett said, the technology that these things

possess, whatever they are, If they wanted to do stuff, they would have already. And the, however long they've been, but it doesn't change the fact, again, of what we're really talking about here, not going, look, look what it really is. It's more so of why are we not talking about these things if you have, like, because they ask, I can't remember what network it was on, but they were asking this particular guy, do you think that this stuff should be, how much of it should be revealed to the public? and he said a lot of it. Yeah. And they said, well, why not all of it? He said, because if it is other technology and other things that we are developing,

whether it's reverse engineering stuff and all this other stuff, which they're allegedly trying to do. Very much so. But if there is this particular stuff of technology that could be a risk to with other countries and other things and other, you know, that might be tough. But if they, if they do have the proof that there is something out there other things, than us. If there are other things,

other things, if they've just, that is such a narcissistic, like, unbelievably arrogant way of living in where we, and not just in the United States,

the world, that it's like, look, this stuff was found. I think it's reverse engineering stuff is the main reason, the main reason behind. If there is a cover-up, that's the main reason.

don't want to share that shit. They don't want people to know they've been working on it because other countries be like, wait, whoa, whoa, what? Part one. Oppenheimer is, it could be a very good and scary metaphor for this. Yeah, for sure. The idea that it's like you find, you get the technology. God, I'm really going to, where's my tinfoil?

I got to put it on my head. I think people are going to tune in to the show for that, for that conversation. But Oppenheimer really kind of, one of my favorite movie of the year, by the way. but it's kind of scary to consider and I'm sorry the smoke where there's smoke there is fire and now these people that I trust I'm a military guy myself

in that my family has served I have not I have so much tremendous respect for my family in the military everybody in the military and I trust them impeccably they're like it is without reservations

without judgment or criticism and and to see these men, favor and craves and crush, you know, be a part of the stuff that protects us, going, okay, there's a lot of people that have seen this. I have

all these examples. I can't say certain things, and that was shit that I saw on Twitter, too, was like, oh yeah, they say all this stuff, but I know a guy. It's like, yeah, they're not, yes, but that's, but that's what I'm saying, that's, that goes back to, one part away from, but that also goes back to the research of it all. It goes back to the, watch,

watch the interview on News Nation with with Grush, right? Watch the interviews. The one, this is why I wanted to kind of go back because I never really, I brought it up and I didn't go into detail of it. The phenomenon by James Fox, when it comes to this documentary, the phenomenon, James Fox, right? It's a combination

of everything that those five parts. There's a lot of that stuff. Yeah. The Leslie Keene stuff. There's a lot of that and even more so, and they kind of dive into Roswell, they dive into this other stuff. But this African case I think is going to start to come out more. I think it's Zimbabwe actually.

Yeah. It's, was it in Zimbabwe? I think it was Zimbabwe. And so they have this, this whole, this happened in 1994. Okay. Now this case is nuts. And there, there's this other video, this other channel, this other YouTube channel that is going to be doing a whole, a whole video on this particular case. And so I'm going to definitely. get some of the... I watched it once, so people are going to go,

oh, get your facts. At one point, I thought it was like South Africa. But... I'm going to give you the gist. And the gist is that it was a school in Africa. And there was kids there,

I don't know, I think they ranged from like eight to like maybe 12 years old around that daytime. And they all saw this thing land. All saw it. Described it all the same. These are all the same the kids, and they said they saw something get out and they had an encounter with

the being. Okay. And it was very similar to the other things they'd seen, but like they all had the same story. They all have the same story 20, 30 years later, whatever it was. They're all normal people. Living, living lives,

but these are kids that all had the same story. And it didn't change after like 30 years. Never changed, but these kids were, you know, like, my, it's like if my, if this thing landed at my kid's kindergarten, and these kindergartners were saying, this is what we saw

and this is what happened. And I don't want to go into the full detail of it all because I think people need to experience it themselves and then once this, I've got to find this YouTube channel that's covering. It's like they defeat Pennywise at eight years old and 27 years later they come back together to do it again. But it was a peaceful experience. Right, but it's a UFO.

I know what you mean, though. But I know what you mean. But the point. See, there's those movie references that I was talking about. Okay, so let's say hypothetical you don't believe this. And you watch it and you go, I don't know. It's just these kids and this woman, this teacher, they had a reason to lie, I don't believe it. Okay.

So then what I would tell you is look at all the documented case because that's the thing, the commonality that I saw from so many different people, like I said to you, how come it's only like two guys always behind a shed seeing this and it's never anybody of merit? Because that's what everybody thinks is the stigma. And when you do the research, you realize it's so much more than that. so many other people. There's so many actual

legitimate people that have seen in non-civillians. There's famous cases. There's a reason why there are famous cases out there. Do you know the Jackie Gleason one? I do not know the Jackie Gleason on that out recently dude. Did Jackie Gleason see one? Jackie Gleason. I love this. That's where he got the to the moon, Alice.

So who did he tell somebody, you can Google this right now when I tell you, don't type it in yet. I'll tell you this story. But it was somebody, don't type it in yet. Don't type it in yet. Well, hold on. I'm getting it up. there. But so I can't remember who he told it to, but he said, I mean, it pops up, so. It's Jackie Gleason says that told, told, uh, told somebody straight up, Richard Nixon took him to see an alien body. Jackie Gleason said, I can't remember, where did I hear this

interview from? That's ringing about it. It might have been James Fox, but like he, he, but Jackie Gleason said, um, these things are real. These things are real. And Jackie Gleason, like, now type in Jackie Gleason, Richard Nixon. Anybody just type this up? But again, I've told you, I don't know. President Richard Nixon's Daily Diary came up immediately.

Literature was, I just want the, I just want the facts, right? I heard Jackie Gleason saw E.T's with Richard Nixon. Yeah, so that's another report. But anyway, that's a rabbit hole for later. That's all rabbit hole. That's all, but that particular,

but my point of all of this stuff when it comes to the hearing is, don't you guys think, though, I mean, even if you're the most, if you're the biggest skeptic, don't you think? And even if you think that they wanted to shift the narrative away from, let's say, away from Hunter Biden, away from the Trump indictments, away from all that stuff, let's say that that that's where you think. Do you think, you really do think that they're going to be able to, A,

get the money to get everybody else to do these, to do this hearing. Like, can we do anything else? They do UFO hearing. This is some giant Truman show kind of facade. And out of anybody, if they were, if part one, let's say part one, they were doing this because they wanted to shift the focus away from, let's say, the Trump and diamonds, right? You don't think AOC is going to go, hey, wait a minute, this is BS. Why are we doing this when we should be focused on this? Part two.

Yeah. If it's Hunter Biden, Matt Gates, hey, wait a minute. No, they're in the same room together working. That's, I just. They're on the same page. I just think that that is something to consider in this and the skepticism out there is I get it. I mean, I get the skepticism. I see it in action.

I get it when you don't do research. I get it when you don't do research. Well, I mean, and some people will never do the research. Talking to my mother about this is hysterical. It's like, are you following along with the UIP hearings? UAP, what are those? I'm like, no, UFOs, sorry, UFOs. The government is really starting, you know,

There are some Republicans and Democrats coming together. Who is it? Who's coming together? It's the Republicans and the Democrats. What are they talking about? It's the UFOs. Well, nobody believes in UFO. No, I'm saying that these people do.

Who's there, though? AOC. I don't like AOC. She's really terrible. She's terrible. And I'm like, all right, never mind. We're giving up on that. My wife walks by.

But what I'm saying is that if you do kind of just take off all of the shit and look and see who's in there and working together. and just asking like really educated questions. I haven't paid attention to one of these people's politics inside of the people that are... You have to take that out of it. And that goes to my next point. Yeah. This, you know, I want to go into the news coverage on it and I want to go into that. Yeah, I want to go into that in just in just a second.

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And I still like the sport very much. I just can't follow it the same way I used to when I was single. I mean, I made my living on it. Yeah. But either way, I always remember as it was blowing, as MMA UFC was blown up in like 2005, 2006, I would watch, I was a big pardoning the interruption guy on ESPN. I would watch pardoning interruption.

I would watch all these shows and just waiting for them to start covering MMA, waiting for them. And they just disregarded it, or they covered it for like a couple of seconds or maybe a minute. They kind of threw it to the side, and it just... And I used to get so frustrated. And now...

They cover it. It's one of the biggest things that they've got to have shows dedicated to it. It's literally on ESPN. You can watch fights on it now. I feel the same way with this stuff right now of what's going on. If they can break it open, if they can actually... If Bertchette and everybody else,

else who's working on this thing and actually get some stuff because they're coming, Berchek got blocked as being the chairman. He was supposed to be the chairman of the thing. He got blocked from that. They got blocked for having, what is it? The skiff. Yeah. Yeah, they can't go in the skiff at all, but now they're

going to go in the skiff. Oh, did they get it approved? Well, there's a lot of people saying that the, well, this is what the representatives can do, like AOC and Gates even, like all these, like, okay, I have some further questioning. They're talking to graves, you know, he was saying

all of this is being ignored because of the stigma. But, like, asking about, you know, has anybody been hurt, threatened, murdered? Bert Shet, straight up asked if people got murdered. Yeah. He's like, he's like, yeah, this is, I'm circled. I'm like, this is X-File stuff here.

This is like, this is dark. And basically it was like, I can't reveal that here. But you can in the skiff is basically the, theme I got with a lot of these representatives, they can bring them into the skiff and get that some more information that will

hopefully bring about the creation of more hearings. More revealing information that's out there. I know this guy, that knew this guy. Well, they needed for... I mean, AOC was asking one of them, and they're like, I mean, one of them

fears for their life, I mean, but no, it's like, yes, I'm in possession. I can point you in the right direction. I'm like, oh, God, this is insane. Well, I want to... It's insane. Yeah, they need it mostly for, what's his face, for Grush? Like, there's so much information that you can tell that Grush has.

There's so much that he's got that it's like when people are getting frustrated going. See, I didn't look at it the way that the people who weren't as locked in us, I guess, they were taking it. People weren't locked in going, oh, there he goes again, saying he can't talk about it here, but you can talk about it closed door. Oh, I grabbed tweets of people saying just that, you know, it's... But they don't get it. But like, every time he said it when I'm not. I heard it. I'm going, whoa, somebody get this guy behind the room, like, quick. Get him in the skip. Get him in the skip. Quick. Get this information so other people can hear

and people with that high level clearance thing. He's following the chain of command right now. He's following. He's following. He's following exactly. He's got classified information also. He is following exactly what he took an oath to do in fighting for our country. That's like, it really needs to be looked at like that. It should prove to you that this guy's legit. Yeah. Because he's not breaking the rules. rules. He's trying to follow the rules. He's like, I can't. But I'm like, I'm wanting information to get out there because you all need to know. Right. And, and like I've seen some shit is basically what, you know. The thing with him, though, it's out of the three of them, he's the one who hasn't seen the shit. He's heard the shit. Right. He's heard the stuff. That's right. Right. Right. Right. But he's also seen some. He, yeah, he knows, he knows a certain, he's seen pictures. He's seen photos. He's seen, like, they asked them at one point, like satellite stuff. They said, because he's, he's, he's there was a one question that I would have asked. And the question was basically,

we have all these satellites. How come satellites haven't picked it up? And Grush pretty much was like, we do have satellite photos. We've got tons of them. Tons of them. That's the kind of stuff that needs to be revealed. Yeah, that's the thing.

I mean, there's a great, like, remember when Superman lands in the comet and the Kents find him? There's a great run on Marvel Squadron Supreme. And it's like, what if that happened? Like, basically essentially an alien. and lands in the backyard of the Kent farm. And they're like, oh, we're going to keep them. And then we're taking the child because the government had all the technology available to us.

We see things coming in. We have that technology available. And I'm sure as I'm sure there are people. And not, I'm not saying men and black kind of things like, you know, look here, you forgot. I'm talking like, okay, can we take this? We're going to do a, we're going to do an investigation on this. and we'll get back to you. And the stigma is, yeah, what happened with that?

Huh? Black cave and red tape and yellow tape. Dude, every single person I told about this thing before the hearings were going down, right? Because the hearings did get a lot of people scratching their head, though. I will say that. Like, there's a lot of people that won't, wait, what?

Because you, and it's now because we've been talking about this stuff all the time and been texting about it and talking about it on the air, that we know about the grush stuff. We know about, like, that interview they get, because it's so buried on, like, News Nation and stuff, there's a lot of people who hadn't seen it. So when I talked to people about it, like, I said, like,

the other day we did a show. It was me and Roxy and Kate and Dan, and it was the day before the hearings. And I said to them, I'm like, Roxy knew about it, but the other show I said, do you guys know about the hearings? And Dan's like, what hearings? Like, it's like the fact,

and this is going back into that news, the news coverage. Yeah. Again, even if the news coverage doesn't believe that it is real and thinks that nothing will come out of it. It is one of the most significant hearings ever in the fact that there's multiple people saying it's happening. But even if the story isn't about the UAPs, even if the story is, hey, AOC and Matt

Gates aren't trying to punch each other in the face when they're screaming at it. They're not screaming at each other. They're on the same page. Yeah. The story alone of, hey, this is something we haven't seen. This is an actual, they talk about bipartisanship all the time. This was an actual bipartisan thing. And inside of that, they're trying to find out if it's real.

I don't give a crap if you have somebody on that's trying to debunk it. Have him to get a, what's his name? Have the conversation. Neil deGreis Tyson. Oh, he's debunking and left and right. But have him on. Yeah. At least you're talking about it.

And at least he's, because I feel, and I think he's brilliant. I think he's a lot of stuff that he says is like, you know, he's got his head up as, you know, what some of the most of this time. I do. I do because he's like protecting his brand, it feels like. I'm going to debunk this immediately. Yes, yes. You know, it's like, hey, we're talking about Wizard of Oz.

We know, don't they can't go to a magical land. We like magic. Have them on and cover it. It should be the lead story. Like, I would prefer that people are saying this, the Trump stuff's getting buried. the Hunter Biden stuff's getting buried because it's just focusing on the UFO stuff. I would rather everyone's saying that because it's the lead story because it should be the lead story.

Well, it's also, I mean, it just is very, very, very clear to me with the mainstream media is that the Hunter Biden's story and the Trump indictments are what sells with all of the stuff. And it wasn't even the third story. The third story was Kevin Spacey. Yeah. No, I mean, the weather got more. action. There was a crane in New York that fell, which again devastating, devastating

and still should have been covered. But more so than UAP hearings? It makes you scratch your head because it does seem, and I will say this. It just seems so huge to us, but I'm wondering, and we can keep talking about this, like, why isn't it crossing over

the media not covering it because people aren't tuning in and they're going to tune out if they put more into it. The local news did a bunch of stuff. There was. CBS covered in. Channel 7 was all in. But I'll tell you who, I'll tell you the two that I saw cover it the most.

Well, CNN didn't really hardly ever cover it except Anderson Cooper. Anderson Cooper. Anderson Cooper had the pilot on that flew with you just told me his name, Graver. Fraver. Fraver. I'm sorry.

This is what you're going to learn about me. I'm terrible with names. I'm going to mess up the names over and over and over again. I think I called Grush Grulsch, about 70 times on the last one. So you got to deal with them. I'm never been great with names, and I own it. Me too, man.

Fraber. Fraber. Fravor. Fravor. Just kidding. Fravor was, this woman flew with him. Okay. So Anderson Cooper not only reported on it and took it and wasn't

goofing on it, was reporting it seriously. And he, He covered the grave stuff back in 2017 or whatever, 2018. So, and he was talking to, I was talking to her then on the other side of a Fox covered it. Now, Fox covered it all over the place, but Fox, there was one guy that covered it like seriously and had some people on. Then there was these dopes, this one guy that I can't stand on whatever the show is called the Five or something.

This guy just so misinformed, like talking about it like a goof, like he was told to cover it. So he's being a goofy moron about it and, like, just adding to the taboo. Well, they show it in that documentary as well. And we talk about, you know, they come out to talk about it and they're wearing an alien rubber mask. Right, right. And then that guy, not only, but that guy came back in part five, whatever, they came back and said that he admitted to actually seeing one. Yeah.

But then, like, again, to give credit to Fox is that they covered it on a different program and took it very seriously. Most of the programs, they're the only ones that were covering it on every program. But MSNBC, didn't see anything there. As you said, David Muir covered it for like five seconds. 20 seconds. The local news, though, all over the place. It was, but it was, yeah, and I think, but Lester Holt, because I'm 80 years old, I watched Lester Holt. God, isn't this funny?

We're watching UFO footage. But Lester, I don't know, I think they covered it for like two seconds or not at all. I can't remember. But it's just like, what's the man? You know, that's what I want to know because it's just like, Amanda, I mean, it's like what's ticking? Is it part of the cover up? I mean, I think yes and no.

I think there's a lot of higher ups out there that don't want to reveal this because I think it is reverse engineering if we find it first, and there's something to learn from it. What is, it's just like Oppenheimer, as I was talking about earlier, when that movie is chilling. He, they, that Oppenheimer's their boy, he figures it out. And literally it's like, we'll take it from here. Right.

You know, it's like, you find this shit. Yeah, they want to learn from it. Can it help us? No, right now, I don't trust the higher-ups, and that's what this hearing is about, transparency, because I don't trust if they're hiding shit, what are you hiding? What is it you, like, can it benefit us with, like, limited energy? Right.

Can it benefit us with medicine and technology improvements? Or are you building ray guns? Right. Like, what is it? You're, like, that's why the hearings happen to have some legitimate, like, people looking in so there's consequences. You can see the conspiracy behind it, right? That's, of course, and I sound crazy. But imagine on the other side of things.

Now, you're this, because you have to remember this also. And again, this comes from the research part that I didn't know until about two weeks ago. Yeah. That from, like, 1945 or 1946 until 19. They were mentioning. 33. 1933, they've known about stuff. But 1945 until like 1968, 69, they were very open that they were investigating UFOs and UAPs,

and that's why Project Blue Book was started. They were very open about it. And there was in the 40s, they reported it on every newspaper. They reported it all over the place. It was very much not a taboo thing. It was these things are out there, and that's when the Roswell thing started, right? Think about the landscape, though. in our world, and this is, I believe this,

look at what the movies were doing at that time, that was the sci-fi kind of 40s and 50s, the B-movies, you know, Gort and Klatu Barata, Nicktu, but then that it was World War II and the bomb and Oppenheimer and all this stuff where you're looking to the sky, what the hell is going to drop on top of us from another country, maybe,

but also like it just, we're advancing. We're getting out there. The taboo started, though. in that time where, because remember Heinrich, or again, probably definitely messed up his name, the guy who ran Blue Book, started as a skeptic, was put there, kind of kicking his feet, and then became a massive believer

and then investigator way afterwards. The Roswell stuff, I was always like, look, like a lot of people probably still watching this, until recently, I was like, it was a weather balloon, who knows what the hell was. I don't know. I mean, it was just kind of me going, I just want this to be aliens, but it probably wasn't.

Yeah, Roswell, I always just went. Yeah, he was kind of shook my, who knows, who knows what it was. Maybe something crashed, maybe not. But when you watch the phenomenon and you see the actual footage of the guy who found it, yeah. He's just an old military guy who, and it's my favorite interview I've seen on any one of these things. Watch, when you watch this, phenomenon, this should be your next one you watch. And he's, and he's, and I don't know when this footage is from.

It's probably from the 70s or 80s, and they were talking to him about it years later after he was talking about and he said, no, I found this thing and it was debris all over the place. And I picked it up and it was very lightweight. I crunched it up and then it just went right back to what it was. And he goes, and we recovered it. We covered a lot of stuff. And then we were told to say it was balloons.

And then there was another guy who goes, we were told it was said it was balloons and they took this phony picture of them near balloons. He goes, we did it. But it wasn't balloons. Okay. I want to see this. You got to see it. I know it's,

because I'm absolutely skeptical as well. Yeah. I mean, throughout all this, but I've seen what I've seen. It's like a hope that you want it to be real. So you're like, so there's a part of your brain going,

I don't know. I wanted to be real. Right. Because, as I mentioned on the last show, you know, the unknown death, that scares the bejesus out of me, right? This,

this information that we are getting, it gets us ever closer to. The truth. A truth. A bigger, a bigger truth, a bigger answer. Yeah. Are we alone in the universe? And I know that there's a saying that everybody loves from contact, you know,

there'd be a big waste of space if we weren't or that, you know, some people are on Twitter, you know, you're narcissistic to think you're the only one here. And it's like, shut up. That's, that's not it. Yes. But in a little bit, I mean, it's like you look out, it's, to know that we are that close to finding out that what they are seeing. and what there is footage of is insane to consider.

Interdimensional, from Mars, whatever you want to say. Huge. But let's flip to the other side of it of people going, I believe that there's something in the sky that I don't believe that it's interdimensional.

I don't believe it's coming from in other space. It's Russia. It's China. It's whatever. And I say that is the main perspective and point of view of a lot the people on that panel on the on the on the the the hearing. The main thing and I think that at who did you think even though grush had the most information of like the whoa factor right. I actually think the most important testimony was graves. Okay. I think graves because graves was saying he was talking

about the technology but he was talking about technology but the safety of the pilots. Yeah. That's what he was talking about, that there should be a way to report this stuff for pilots, and that it should be more than 5%, and that a few of them have almost smashed into some of these things, and that they shouldn't be the risk of their career and all this. I think Graves, they all had important testimonies, but I thought Graves set the mission to get most people,

even if you don't believe in aliens or whatever it might be, to go, but yeah, there's enough for. footage of these pilots who are almost running into whatever these things are. What is it? I would say that they're credible, all three of them. Of course. You know, they were credible in their conviction. They were credible in their candor.

And there wasn't some kind of belittling or talking down to a prospective audience saying, you know what, you're not going to believe me because I am this. No, they're like, I know this sounds insane. Right. But. But I need you to know this. Because Graves, especially, when you're talking about seeing something that goes from zero to, like, the number he gave was... Five percent?

It couldn't... No, it went from here to here. Oh, how fast. How fast. And they had to do the mathematics behind it, and it would have meant it went 16, 100 miles per hour in a second. They said it... They asked, is there any capability that this thing would have that it could be... Oh, it's not.

No. Like, they said it, he said, why is it a danger? He's like, because it can go, and this is what they said in the hearing. It can go from here into space. Yeah, like that. And drop down at us at that. So that should be investigated. But.

Especially when they're looking at everything that, like, nuclear facilities, there is well-known things, government facilities that they've seen. You know, they're buzzing the tower. They're buzzing the tower goose. They're buzzing the tower goose. So when I worked at Skybond, entertainment. I had an opportunity to meet a very, very talented

artist named Attack Peter. If you guys followed me on the S-E-N days, and when Brett and I lost our minds, it's the flirt and flout and flouse stuff. Some of people are like, what the hell are you talking about? It was just a thing. Anyway, Tack Peter became a good buddy of mine, and as we were talking

about this stuff with Ellis, he reached out to me and he's like, dude, he was the one who actually told me, he's been following this stuff for a long time, so I'm actually going to call him into the show, nice um let me see if i can get them yo peter what's up man what's up dude nothing you got me and riley here riley you can hear peter hey peter what's up riley how are you man good how are you yeah dude so we're going over the we're going over the hearings and i was i was kind of giving you an intro saying that

you know you and i even though you know i know that you were aware of the show before skybound but you and i kind of became close after working at skybound and then as you were watching the show with Ellis last week, you let me know that you're, you're into this and you've been following this for a while. How long have you been following all the details and everything? Hold on. I'm pre-ordering my Tom DeLong was right t-shirt right now. Let me just make sure I get that.

No, dude, you know what's funny? Like, I remember going to see fire in the sky in the movie theater with my dad, who I love my dad, but he's always been kind of out there. And when we were kids, he used to, or maybe when I was just born, he was working at the Pentagon. But I always knew that he had like a low level position, like mailroom office or whatever, but he told me that he got invited out to lunch or dinner by some high level people,

I mean, high level, whatever that means. You know, and this is why I'm telling you the story, because my dad's not a creative guy in any stretch of imagination. And he go, and so after firing this guy, we get out of the movie theater. And he says, you know, when I used to work at the Pentagon and I got invited at dinner and there was some guys who seemed to know a lot of stuff. And one of them told me that what we think of as aliens from another planet, it's not really that boys. Me and my brother were like 10. He's like, it's not really that, boys. It's like you imagine the entire world as far as you can think, the universe, all the stars and the planets.

At some point it ends like a table. and then it just starts over again. And that's where they're from. And I'm like, what the shit is he talking about? But I've always, I've always kept that in my mind because I'm like, my dad cannot put together original ideas like that. So I'm like, maybe someone actually told him something. And it was legit.

And nowadays it seems really like on the money. Well, especially after you hear Grush and what and everything that he's talking about. Yeah. interdimensional stuff and all that stuff. It's like so I wanted to get your thoughts on the, because we've been, you and I have been texting about it and going over it. Yeah.

What do you? It's my, it's my favorite thing that's happened in our friendship, by the way, is this. But let's go. It really is. Yeah,

it's great. It's been, it's been good. Look, I went down, I've told the story many times over now about how I've always had an interest in it, but recently through that documentary that I watched.

And then obviously you and some of the people told me about James Fox's, uh, documentary. Dude. It's fascinating. Yeah. But so tell me, first of all, before we get into any of the other stuff, tell me about the hearings or your overall thoughts about them.

Do you think? Because someone who is like knew all this stuff and knew all this information, and it wasn't anything kind of new, do you think that it should shed a good light, though, to the rest of the public? I mean, I think it couldn't have happened any more perfectly because, yes, to your point, if you're following this stuff, this is just kind of like a recap. Yeah.

But it's almost like when your favorite, like, underground, like, garage band gets to play, like, opening up for the foo fighters or something like that, you know? So it's like the most perfect, credible lineup that you could have asked for up there, you know, in front of a bipartisan, you know, a hearing, which I thought was very important. And exactly what I hoped would happen, happened, which is all of a sudden people who just didn't care one way or the other have been talking about. it all like in my work meetings in my friend groups all like like it's just a thing now that is like in the in the zeit guys and what's weird to me is how there is no like panic yet and I and or any kind of like alarmist response I think that maybe I don't hang out with those people who would freak out like that but at the same time yeah right like I think here's here's a reason why here's a reason why I don't think it's weird yeah I don't think it's weird yet because I think the taboo thing is too strong yeah

And I think that Yes. I'm not taking it seriously. Yeah. I think that people even even like so here's an example like my wife who is the there's in no I've talked about it many times over. My wife is just like until they come knock on the door and invite us for Starbucks I can't believe it.

Right. So like but last night though she saw she saw the I said watch this and she saw the the grush comment where he said that there has been stuff discovered in other you know other creatures outside of human origin and she went and it was the first time. ever saw her eyebrow kind of raised and she's like I don't want to think about this stuff and like that that's it that's it that's the point and I think that's the point dude because like my wife's the same way Gabby and she's not in denial of anything by all means but it is one of those things that kind of like gives her a weird anxiety yeah uh you know she she her dad my my father-in-law is also like a big fan of all this

but and so she's heard it her whole life but I think it does cause you to kind of pause you to kind of pause all the BS in your life for a minute and take a second to have some perspective, you know, and think that a lot of the stuff that we potentially get hung up on in our day to day is just potentially nonsense. I mean, we still have to do it. So they're going to pay the rent. They'll still got to eat and, you know, and see, whatever.

But there's a moment where you're like, dude, none of this shit might matter that much. You know what I mean? Like, and that's a heavy thing to think about for anybody. anybody do you think do you think in our lifetime that they're actually going to reveal you're actually getting it a real reveal not not people like bertchat and everybody who else is going after them and do you and and people like rush who are going to continue to come out and say things but do you think we're ever going to get an omission that there's stuff going down and that we're not you know either alone or there's other stuff i think we're going to see something before we ever get in the

i really do man i really do and yeah riley i'm with you man and i and i and i think If you just look at how paradigm shifts happened in the last 10 years, 15 years, you know, right? Like I remember growing up and life was kind of just life until like a major thing would happen every 20 years or so. And now it just feels like especially after 2020, I don't know, man, I feel like people just got like pop like the world of the civilization just got to this point where it's like enough BS, dude. Like we're tired of this. And now people are just emboldened. People are just like, you know, pushing back on things. And I think, yeah, like David Grush, to me, I was following all this stuff super closely.

And that guy came out of nowhere. I mean, I mean, right? And so who's the next, the next? What's next? Like, all that's left is like major. Grush said it. Yeah. Gross said it at the hearing.

He said, he said he's got people that will come out and speak. He said maybe not. He said behind, you know, whether it's closed doors or whatever it might be, he said, or he said, or he said if they were offered protection that. There you would. But, Riley, you wanted to say something? Well, yeah, Peter, your point. I mean, the paradigm shift that will happen, that can and will happen. I mean, we're literally, I'm thinking about it.

We're talking about close encounters of the third kind, right? And we could also tomorrow start talking about, you know, The Terminator, because AI is so prevalent in our world right now. So these paradigms, our technology is catching up with these fantastical ideas that we grew up with watching in movies. which is part of the stigma, too. Nobody's going to believe that they're going to have this. And to go off your point, though, too, because Peter does know this case. The one, the way, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, is it's, it's, is it, is it's, is it, Peter, the one that I'm thinking of?

Is that what it is, Peter, the one from the school? I think so. It's certainly South Africa. I just can't remember exactly where, but. Someone told me it wasn't South. I don't know. Anyway, I'll, I'll look it up right now. I'm in front of the computer.

You keep talking. I'll look it up. Right. So when it comes to that, you guys are mentioned the technology and the AI and all that. Like what's so daunting about that is that inside of that case itself, these kids, children, 8, 10, whatever they are, said that the message that this thing was giving them was, do not rely on technology. Do not let technology take over your civilization. So it's like the day the earth stood still. More or less, like something along those lines.

and it was, and these were children that all had this message. All of them had this message. No. So, I mean, maybe they're on the other side of the universe saying, you know, the AI machine is going to eliminate you sooner or later. It's going to be Terminator. And then, well, but that's the point. I mean, not going down that particular rabbit hole, but the idea of the paradigm shift, that something needs to happen. And I think that the advancement of the technology that we are, that we have the cameras in our pockets,

that we're talking about AI replacing actual living writers and actors and people that live and breathe. We are there in a society that we are in the future. I mean, there was a freaking robot that delivered a pizza while I was walking to the doctor the other day. You know what I mean? So nothing's going to surprise me. So I think that there is the next logical step for me is all of these things, all of these sightings are happening. And these people are coming out. a big one is going to happen.

A big one that you get a lot of people on the same page being like, yeah, what was that? Not just like the teenage lights and aliens, but something more. Yeah, I really wish that the rest of the world grew up as like tuned in with sci-fi as we all did because I feel like we're more primed to be,

to like be okay, I know what happens next, blah, blah, blah, okay. But yeah, two points, two points. Number one about paradigm shifts. Yeah. Did you guys watch, Black Mirror that just came out recently? Yes.

I didn't. Okay. The first. Okay. Christian. The first. Yeah. Yeah.

So you've seen the other seasons, right, Christian? No, I haven't. Everyone tells me to watch my own. Oh. Man, you got to binge. Dude. I know. I know.

These are like, it's like, yeah, it's like watching idiocacy now. Like, it's almost like, well, they were right. But the point is black mirror had the first episode, Joan is awful that Riley pointed at. when I watched it right when it came out, which was like a month ago or something, and it seemed so far-fetched.

And then literally a week later, the actor's strike is about exactly what happens. Like, the distance in between the fiction and reality has shrunk, you know, exponentially. It's crazy. And then the second point I wanted to bring up is, Christian, you have kids. I taught kids for 13 years of all ages.

When have you ever seen groups of kids come up with stories and lie like that. It doesn't happen. Or lie and all have the same exact story with the same detail. Oh, dude, I've never seen that once. And I've seen kids that, you know, do crazy stuff. But that, as somebody who knows kids, like I literally taught, I guess, a 500 kids a year for 13 years, seeing all the personality types and seeing their behavioral patterns.

That single documentary pushed me over any edge. that there was left. Same. Same. And I think that and when you look at the interviews and you look at them years later and they all have like, you know, normal jobs and anything to, they're not like running around like, you know, speaking through cans and, you know, on the type of a water tower.

It's like so. Yeah. The problem is this though still, as I've noticed, even when talking about this stuff over the last couple of weeks, yes, there are more people who want to know things and I've gotten a lot of people that like have kind of found this stuff and the facts through that

documented that five point i i think for people who just want to it's great i think that's the one that skeptics should watch to say because it's the one that's based the most in reality i think of like a and what i'm not saying they're all aren't but but more more so where if you describe it like if you describe moment of truth to somebody they're going to go okay sure moment of contact moment of contact excuse me moment of contact yeah yeah you describe moment of contact to someone they're going to yeah okay sure now if you watch the other ones and then land on that one last, then maybe you're on board with it. But the problem is, for me,

is that there's still this taboo behind it, because even for me talking about it, the last school, I still see people, I've seen people talking about, like, why are you covering this? Or sure, like friends of mine that I bring it up, and they get like the side smirk when I start talking about it, and then, like, the stuff you see

on Twitter, and it's like, I think, and as Mark and I talked about at the beginning of this show, and Leslie Keen was the one who said it, until there's, like, a major, major event that even the people who have been allegedly covering this stuff up go, you know, well, we really can't cover that up now because Alien B and Alien A are on television having a press conference, you know what I mean? It's like, you know what I'm? It's like, it's like an Independence Daylike type of thing. That's the one. And like getting away from the alien side of

it, if like a, if a, if a ship actually, because a lot of people ask a very, uh, fair question and a question that I've asked many times over is like, well, why? Are they always going so fast and they're never on camera with the age of cell phones and all that stuff? And the answer I think now is there is that footage, but it's all buried. And if that footage comes out and the corridor crew decides that they think that that one's actually real, you know, like that, like that. Right, right. That's the type of stuff that's going to start to change people's minds. But for right now until there's actual footage or actually, I think that you're still going to have that taboo.

Or to have your own experience, too. I mean, like me, like, you know, my real. being like what they're describing is something that I saw. So I can kind of corroborate my own experience and be like, yeah, it checks out. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I mean, you know what's interesting, dude?

Like with the with, because I always hear that too. Like now we live in a world where everybody's got a camera in their pocket. Where are all the sightings? And the way, I mean, the way I think of it is like, you know, I don't think when Jane Goodall goes into, you know, document the guerrillas that her goal was to be like, like, you know, clear and present so that all the guerrillas just don't act like they normally act, you know. Or if you're doing any kind of natural observation, your goal isn't to be detected. Your goal is to watch nature in its own, you know, habitat do its thing.

And so you have to imagine if any of these like stories or claims are true, there's a giant floating red square in the sky or whatever. Like you don't think they're going to have technology to be cloaked. I mean, we have technology to be cloaked. You know what I mean? It's like, so you, you, or how about, like, I remember reading a story in the news, I want to say five, 10 years ago that was taught. It was when the police were starting to get upset at the crowd filming them on duty. And so they were going to enact a little bit of technology where, you know,

don't quote me exactly, but essentially some kind of like emitter that would scramble your camera while you're trying to film them. So, I mean, that's our, yeah, and that's our, well, yeah, exactly. Well, that was like our barbarian technology compared to whoever's piloting these things. So imagine what they would have, you know what I mean? So I don't doubt it. I don't doubt it, dude. And if it's, and if, and you got to have an open mind about this stuff.

I mean, I don't ever want to be, I know that I'm, that I'm not smart enough to know what I don't know. You know what I'm saying? Like, I just have to keep an open mind about it. And what makes me excited about this topic, and I think sometimes people ask that, like, why do you care so much until it's like in your life, you know? What makes me excited about this is, and I've always thought this is, what a better thing to unify people in general. And make people. Yeah, it'll change your world. And make people realize that all about the divisions that we see amongst each other are nonsense.

You know what I'm saying? It's like. At what point in what world have you ever seen? AOC and Matt Gates on the same panel. Thank you. Smiling. Thank you. Not fighting with each other, talking about it.

And not only them, like, there was tons of people, like, tons of people with very opposing views. And they were all on the same page. And that's, and that is... They're hearing some crazy stuff that they have to acknowledge that if they work together, they can uncover more of this. It's what government is supposed to be. Right. That's a great way to put it to. They're doing what you're supposed to do.

It is the first time I've ever felt like, oh, this is why people... are are supposed to be on the same page. And instead of this Yankees versus Red Sox bullshit, they're on the same page. Yeah. Same team fighting for people like, and what's Burchetts? Keep saying it.

He goes, you got these outside organizations inside the government acting like we work for them and they work for us. Yeah. And it's, yeah. Right. And like that's the type of guy,

people you want. And like the fact that, you know, Grush is out there being able to say that he has been threatened. He has, it's like, here's a question I asked for people, though, too. You know,

this guy's under oath saying these things. Why is it, let's say again, that he is being threatened and his life is being threatened. If he's full of shit, why is he being threatened? Yeah. Right. Like, what's the answer? Right. I mean, and why would you, like, what would motivate somebody to go through all these lengths?

I get that, look, I'll, I play devil's advocate all the time, okay? And I'm not, you know, I'm not oblivious to, uh, what is it, Project Bluebe? I always confuse Bluebeam and Blue Book, but like the idea that you, that we could, the government had plans to use holographic projections of aliens, Jesus Christ, Muhammad, to like project over enemy armies to freak them out in the middle of combat to be able to disorient them and take advantage of them. So that's like documented, right? So I'm not, I'm not oblivious to the fact that that is a possibility, right?

I think this whole thing is a major distraction. I will say this, though. If that's what this is, that's the last card they got, dude, because what's bigger than that. Like, they'll never be able to play a card again. Like, what else is left? Like, that's all right. Like, that's it. Like, that's it. Like, there's not. Exactly. Exactly. And it's like, we opened the beginning of the show saying, like, because I saw the stupidest comment I think I've seen so far, two stupid comments. But one of the stupid comment that I saw was that they were doing this hearing to throw the focus off of Hunter Biden, right? Like, so,

so the reason why that's so dumb on a lot of different levels is, one, the majority of the people who are really pushing it are Republicans. Yes. That's part one. Part two is that if they, as you said, if they're going to use this card, it's for Hunter Biden. And for, and part three, Hunter Biden was the lead story on CNN, MSNBC, everything. It was not the lead story. So that is the stupidest argument anyone has made plus the fact in error.

And the reverse side of it is the same thing. Well, it's not. It's not. It's the fact that they don't want to talk about Trump, and they want it to be, Trump is getting indicted again, and Trump is going to potentially have all these problems, and the Republicans don't want it.

That's why they're running this thing. Well, then why is Schumer pushing for it? Why is AOC? Right. AOC's not going to smell a fart and go, wait a minute, guys, we should be talking about Trump. It makes no sense. Yeah.

They're in the same room. They're working together. That's a really great thing to see. One, two, they're revealing some things. that if you stop and listen, it is really, just take away the stigma, take away the sci-fi,

take away, listen to what they're saying and just consider it. It is fascinating to consider that these pilots and that there might be things that are in the possession of the government or somewhere else of non-human origin. That blows you. That doesn't blow your mind?

Of course. And by the way, like both things can be true. true too. Like the other argument that no one makes. There are people, there are real cover-ups happening. There is real craft in hiding. There are real biological entities in hiding. And there's a lot of momentum from people who want to disclose that information. And, you know, the two-party system would like to use it to a certain extent to, yes,

take attention away from the two leading candidates who are going to go head to head, have all this crap going on both things can be true but you know what it's like it's like saying um it's like saying hey your phone spies on you every with everything you do so don't either don't use your phone or use your phone to do good things and create business and and and forward technology and communicate with people i mean like both things can be true you know what i mean so it's totally true one does not preclude the other yeah and it's also like like going into that story even taking away from whatever, the two candidates. The leading stories last night were Hunter Biden,

Kevin Spacey, Mitch McConnell having a near stroke. Yes. The weather. The weather and New York Crane and then the UAP hearing. Yeah, the UAP was to the very end of everything. Yeah. Oh, you had to, I scroll down so far on CNN.

I almost did a screen record of my phone to post that. But the point is it was so far, Barry, you can like roll the scroll and it was all the way at the bottom. I did say Anderson Cooper covered it. That's good, yeah. He had one of the pilots on. But Peter, well, thank you

man for joining us. We'll do this again with you. Yeah, we'll call you in for to do it again as we get. I'm hoping my goal is that the reason with this, because in 2018, this thing after they had Ryan, they had the New York Times article and everything too, it went away

for a little bit. And now people are talking about again because of garage and everything too. So we hope that it doesn't go away. And we hope that you'll join us next time we talk about it. Yeah. And can I say one last thing, dude? I just want to say, like, I'm so happy that you're doing this because I always felt like you need credible people, but you also can't have just dorks doing it.

Like, you know, like you're, no, seriously, you're a credible person who's built a community over many, many, many years with people who know you don't BS them and you make it a safe place to discuss and just theorizing. You don't have answers. I don't have answers. I don't have answers. But we can have this conversation like we talk about anything else. And people should, if you're listening to this, click like, subscribe to the channel, leave comments because it's helpful to know that you guys are out there and want to do this more and talk about it more.

That's how I think it stays in the zeit guys. So thanks, dude. I appreciate both of you guys. I appreciate that. Thank you, Peter. You're the best. We'll talk to you soon. All right, man.

Take it easy. Later, guys. That's awesome. He's so right, too. And that says, we don't know anything, but we are going to talk. about it. We're going to be honest. We're going to have fun. We're going to hopefully, you know, make people learn some things. I don't know.

My main thing, Riley, is that this, ask question. That's it. Just ask questions. It's like, and as Peter said on the ending there too, I don't want any of you to just start believing because. I want you to ask questions. I don't even, if you leave it going, I don't believe

any of it. I wrote to a friend of mine last night. He was posting about stuff, I was like, this person clearly has not watched any of this stuff. I said, just watch this thing. And if you say the same thing after you watch it, great, but have the information beforehand too. But look, like I said, we're going to be doing more of these. We'll probably be doing them on Tuesday.

I will ask you, though, this in the comment section. Please let me know if you want us to continue doing this. Do you think we should keep doing this? Do you like watching these episodes? Do you think that we should continue to do them? Or do you want us to just go back, like I said, I haven't left any of the movie discussions and pop culture discussions. It's also a strike going on, too, guys.

That's the other thing, too. There's not a lot to talk about over there. And the fact that we can now talk about this plus that, you know, when we get some more information, once it all comes back, I think it's a win-win. But I'd like to thank you guys for watching. Make sure you comment, like, definitely get one of those sponsors. If you're able to, it helps out the show tremendously. If you want to support this, if you like what we're talking about here and you want to see us get more and more. coverage and people find it in the show, it helps to get one of those sponsors if you're able to.

But I'd like to thank my friend Mark. Riley. Mark, where can the good kids find you? A pleasure is always, Christian. You can find me Twitter threads at Riley around our EI-L-L-Y around. Yeah, just find me there. All right, everybody. So check out. Again, a recommendation. If you have not watched it, I would recommend to start the five-parter. It is UFO exploring the investigating the unknown, and that's either on National Geographic Disney Plus. Watch James Fox. is the phenomenon. And for people who are really down and been watching a lot of this stuff, go and check out moment of contact by James Fox also. All right. Thank you again. Thank you to Mark

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