The Kristian Harloff Show - Is X-MEN 97 Episode 5 the BEST episode of MARVEL television ever?!

Episode Date: April 12, 2024

Check out G2A: https://www.g2a.com/n/bigthing On today's show we discuss that heartbreaking episode of X-Men 97 episode 5. Why did it hit hard for som many people? Is it the best episode of television that Marvel has ever produced? Cinemacon had some Superman teases and announcement that The Crow has been pushed to August. Kit Harrington doesn't know when he will return to Marvel. This and more on this episode of Capes and Cowls with Kristian, Winston and special guest Kris Carr! #marvel #mcu #dc #dcu #xmen #xmen97 #magneto #spoilers NY WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls... OUR SPONSORS: RHONE: Head to http://www.rhone.com/BIGTHING and use promo code BIGTHING to save 20% off your entire order. VESSI: Elevate your spring wardrobe travel with Vessi's StormBurst shoes. Discover more at http://www.vessi.com/BIGTHING Get your pair today to get an automatic 15% off your first purchase at checkout and be ready to step out in style, rain or shine! ZBIOTICS: Remember to head to hhtp://www.ZBiotics.com/BIGTHING and use the code BIGTHING at checkout for 15% off.  OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-...  

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Chris. We're talking about a lot of stuff. And everybody's talking about this X-Men 97, the latest episode is episode six, I think. Five. Five, that's what I meant. And episode five, and man, people are losing their minds over this episode. So we'll talk about it. And we'll see if it is worth the hype. There will be spoilers on that one.

So if you haven't seen it, you know, we're going to have to time code it. There was stuff at CinemaCon. And James Gunn sent in a little video and showed like the logo for, you know, the official logo, I guess, for the suit for Superman. So we'll talk about that. So that and more on today's show. So if you're brand new to the channel and everyone here before, subscribe to it. We're trying to get to 200,000 faster. We got to 100, but we need you guys to hit that button.

We're on Apple Podcasts, we're on Spotify, we're on all that stuff. So let's do it. It's Capes and Cowles. It's myself. It's Chris Carr. It's Winston. Here we go. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

Capes and Cowles, myself, Chris Carr, Winston, A, Marshall. Here we go. I don't know what that was. I liked that. It was very powerful. It was powerful. You were out to just like come in here. It was.

Yeah, throw a poker ball. Yeah. Turn the hat backwards. Yeah. So I hope everybody's doing good right now because we're going to start talking about some stuff. And we'll start off. What I will say is I told you guys beforehand as we were talking off air that, you know, they know now with the move to New York and all that. So what we've been doing and one of things that you and I have talked about is that we're probably going to have you and.

coy at your spot and then Brett's gonna help kind of we'll we have a lot of this equipment that will probably help you guys set up the shot get the lighting you have great stuff at your place anyway but we can start to do maybe some soundproof and some stuff over there yeah yeah no we'll definitely I mean especially because I still have a construction zone outside my apartment yeah yeah so we'll we'll figure all that out but like one of the things that we're doing is because we got we had this whole thing when we'd started this the studio we had an amazon wish list and that the fancy, you know, have the Nate lights. I talk about the Nate lights all the time.

We have a new Amazon list up for the New York studio that we just put up. And there was a bunch of patrons like, you're going to start a New York list. And I was like, yeah, we should. So we put that up now. And people like, what about this stuff that's going, this is going to go. A lot of the stuff is going to go to the crew because we're going to set up you and Koi. We're going to have Mike and Steph in the same room. And then so it's going to, that way the dynamic is still there.

So when people are wondering. And then we're going to have more stuff. Chris and I have been talking about something to do. Ooh, it's not officially yet, so we're still talking about it, but it's exciting. We're just taking that idea out for coffee still. That's exactly right.

We're not committing to it. Not yet, but we're almost there. We're almost there. But either way, Chris will be doing more stuff with us regardless. We're just going to figure out what it is, yeah. Me too. I hate that he decided to move, though. That means only get to see you, though.

It's probably this one time maybe another time. Why? Well, hopefully we'll do more stand-up, too. I have so much fun at that. I'm bad. Right. But you just went against my whole point. My whole point is that we set up your thing

and let's say, like, Koi's out of town. That's true. That's true. That's totally true. Yeah, Chris is pretty much like, right now, she's the ultimate utility player. Like, it's like, if Brett's out, call Chris. Rocks he's out, call Chris, Coy's out.

That's what I try to do for voiceover. It's what I want to do for movie and comic news. Let's go. You're in. You're in. Well, then, by all means, if Koi's back next week, you can be here for me. Are you out next week?

That's part of what I do. Oh, okay, okay. So you're out next week. want to do the show next week? Sure. All right. This is going to be on next week too, guys. No, it's all good.

It's all good. I'm glad to know that we have a six women off the bench, man. That's great. We hadn't had one for Capes and College. No. Because yesterday, it was funny because it takes, you have to have a certain knowledge to do this particular show, right? And then because I'm the person that kind of throws to you guys and I get the information back. And I know how well she knows the world.

And yesterday, I'm like, wait a minute, Koy's not here. Hell, you want to do the show? She's like, hell yeah. I was like, hell yeah, let's do it. And that's, the funny thing is, is that, you know, I know a decent amount. I don't know nearly as much as coy, but I know people are always like, man, I was actually know. And now that we're getting into this X-Men territory, like, everything that we're going to talk

about with episode five, like, there's a reason that, like, I not only started bawling my eyes out, but like, I was like, oh, my God, and this and this and this and this. So, all right, well, we're going to do that. So I'm going to bring that up right now with talk about X-Men 97, the episode. But if you want to, and you can contribute to the New York list, it's there. Take a look. If not, that's cool. You can just put your likes in there and your comments in there. That helps a lot, too. Okay, here we go. Here's the episode. X-Men 97, fire show-runner Bo DeMaio breaks his silence by sharing his new insights into the 9-11-inspired. X-Meny-7 showrunner, Bo-Demio, was fired by Marvel Studios in Disney Plus before the series premiere, but now he's broken his silence on Remember It by sharing some fascinating insights into the episode.

So in yesterday's episode, again, spoiler. Spoiler. If you haven't seen this episode, I would wait and look at the time code for the next one. You've been warned. In yesterday's episode of X-Men 97, Sentinels laid waste to Genosha, leading to the shocking deaths of characters like Magneto and Gambit. Time travel may ultimately retcon those deaths, but if so, that runs the risk of lessing the stakes of this team's future adventures. Shortly before X-Men 97's two-episode premiere,

we had learned that Beau DeMaio had been fired by Marvel Studios. There was no reason that was given, though we'd later hear it might have been related to his problems, behind the scenes, or even the filmmaker's non-nude-only fans account. While DeMeo has yet to break his silence on that, he did take to X shortly after a remember-it drop to comment on the harrowing events scene in this episode. Responding to dozens of fans to thank him for their support and praise,

DeMayo dropped some interesting tidbits, confirming that Gambit is dead and sharing insights into the sheer amount of work that went into telling this story. He also revealed. My plan was the first half of the season is the OG audience pre-9-11 days, rife with nostalgia and comfort. Then 9-11, like Tulsa and other mass tragedies, turned the world upside down and reminded us the whole world's unsafe.

Needless to say, we expected the second half of the season to make for heavy viewing. While comic book readers will be familiar with the attack and who the culprit was eventually were built to be, there's nothing to say that X-Men 97 will necessarily head down that route. There are already big differences. Cable's unexpected appearance, for example, so expect more surprises in the weeks ahead. So you can see more of his response of the Remember It on his Twitter account. Okay.

So let's talk about this episode. I saw yours first saying how much you're one of the best episodes of TV. And you're not the only person that said this. There's so many people saying it's one of the best episodes of television ever. I'm not going to go that far. Which is fair. But I'm going to say it's a really good show. It's a really good episode, rather.

I think the one, obviously the one thing in its favor is obviously doing 97, you were building nostalgia in any way. So you already, you have the emotional depth because most of the people watching this have super fond memories of it from their childhood, which leans further into what he was saying about what he wanted to do with the 9-11 thing. He specifically even said in his breakdown, I read through it, that that was his original pitch to Fikey. That this episode was the pitch of, you know, I want to bring it back. This is going to be a linchpin moment. And Fikey immediately was like, yes, go. I think what is so fascinating about it is that you took an episode where so much happened. So you're talking about all of the relationship stuff.

So Scott's like astral plane cheating on Gene with Madeline. But it's like, that's your baby mama. That's got to be really confusing. how that works. You have the whole love triangle between Gambit and Magneto and the fact that she can't touch him. She can't touch him. But then she makes the decision after that dance. She's like, no, Gambit is the one I want to be with.

But then at that moment, it's already too late. Let alone to have this massacre, which for those that aren't familiar, it comes from E is for extinction back in 2001, I believe it was. And it was a similar type of situation where Genosha had kind of set itself up as a safe haven for mutants and then here come these wild sentinels. How spoiler do I want to go with the comic as far as who I think's behind it? Is that, are we doing that? Do it because I want to talk about it. Okay.

You might as well because I've very worn people and I won't remember anyway. Okay, so the original event was actually orchestrated by Cassanova. Sorry, Cassandra Nova. Yeah, yeah. My brain just did a fusion. Cassandra Nova, who is Professor X's evil twin. Okay. And she's crazy.

She's absolutely crazy. See, but she essentially takes, you know, in the beginning, the first episode we saw Trask and, oh my God, Traskant, why is my brain not working? The doctor and then from which. We're talking about one. Episode one. The two people that are in charge of the Sentinels, Boulevard Trask and, and. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

The two people that are behind the Sentinels, they're still trying to build their stuff back up and whatnot. And we saw that he had a master mold head that he was like working with and whatever. essentially Cassandra finds this South American like Sentinel facility and decides to use that and take these sentinels to just go train wreck Genosha and that's what they're not coming in from the future

like that's what I started because I watch days to me it remind me a days of future to pass sure that's when I started seeing that in the beginning war in the beginning after cable comes in and he's like I'm sorry mom and he pulls back and then they all start come start flying in there I'm like this reminds me of the beginning of

days of past right right right I'm I doubt that that is what it is. I think it's more cable knowing that that's a linchpin to my moment that he would try to go and stop it, but he was like, I'm out of time. I can't. I got to go. And like, especially because what his computer body slid him out of there,

so he couldn't. But I think some of the things that were so incredible to see, at one point the watcher, what can be seen in the sky, which is absolutely crazy. I had to go back and rewind it because I was like, am I hallucinating? I was happening.

I was like, I turned around because I was like, is somebody in my room? And then I was like, I paused it. I was like, that's the fucking watcher. Yeah, it looks like a glare. It's so well done. It's really well done. But as for anybody that's watched,

What If? I didn't notice that, yeah. Yeah, so that was super cool. When does that happen? Around minute 20-ish, some in there. It's right before the gala and like, and all that, like, as they're like kind of panning in, the establishing shot on Genosha,

you can see him essentially ready to watch another massive event because that's what he does. So to have that, to have the callback for one of Gambits, lines from the original show as he dies, he would, you know, occasionally when he would attack people, he'd be like, the name is Gambit, remember it. And so for him to use that as his going outline felt very Tony Stark, I am Iron Man, which was a beautiful kind of sentiment. And I also think, because in this, in Eiff, extinction, this is supposedly when Magneto died, but then he was alive at another point. I think probably what ended up happening because he had Leach with him,

I think that he was able to fend off the attack. And then he told Leach to immediately sap him of his powers so it looks like he doesn't exist anymore. So I think that Magneto's alive, but I do think that Gamut is dead. And I hate everything about that, but I thought that it was a beautiful moment and to have the final callback of Rogue saying, I can't feel you, both from the standpoint of not being able to feel his powers because she, like, put her skin to him. Yeah. But for those that watched Wanda Vision, that's what Wanda actually did when she went to go visit Vision at the sword base. She was trying to sense him and she said the same thing in tears, I can't feel So there were so many moments where you could see they were connecting the dots with things that we've already seen in the MCU whether or not this is directly connected to it or not

To things directly in the comic to fully adapt these stories and make them relevant to now and to really pull in our heartstrings to like have night crawler who is finally coming to his own and then already he's I spent half the time to be like please don't kill night crawler Please don't kill night crawler and then they kill gambit and I was like Yeah, so So yeah There's a lot. So, Chris, the first question is, I want to hear your thoughts on the episode entirely, the same way Winston did for sure.

But I also want to start with the question of, is this the best episode of Marvel television that has been put out so far? Because that's been thrown out there too. It might be. I mean, this is a Wanda Vision tier level event. This is so well done. And honestly, the big thing for this is it shows you, it's a blueprint for how you can adapt comic books in such a meaningful way.

X-Men has always fired best when. it combines amazing action and philosophy. And this episode has that in spades. Dude, when the UN leader was like, we don't normally elect terrorists as leaders for countries, and he goes, so why do a lot of your leaders act like terrorists? I said, yo, you can't do that. It's so good.

The whole monologue that Scott Summers has, thank God we're not like you, because if we were, you'd be dead. That's some real. There is such Cyclops just like goodness in this show, and he needed that. Cyclops is a character who gets shit on constantly because he's always just involved in, you know, all these different love triangles and everything, because all the X-Men always... Everybody's seen everybody. And he's usually kind of put into that James Marsden, as every James Marston role fit typically is.

He's the other guy. It's so nice to see him get that kind of redemption, which is great. The Gambit stuff, too, is a... juicy little comic book nod too because back in Uncanny X-Men 350 I want to say we have Gambit leave Sinister

to where the Morlocks are he gives them up and so that was a beautiful kind of redemption moment if you do know that backstory but you don't need to know it to enjoy the show and I think that's what's so great is it's so human and beautiful

and timely without having to have deep, deep lore of the show one of my most devastating revelations though was I was watching this and I was like, oh man, me and Magneto have the same haircut. So this is where Magneto has been. We both went to a beta and we were like, butterfly layers. Thank you.

Thank you. But you were, because you and I talked about it because you knew that you were coming on today and you had seen episode four, which I thought was okay, by the way. I like it. I just think, I think, again, the philosophy part, I love the little nods to and they've done it twice now for four. They've done it twice now, the Magneto was right situation. So for those that aren't familiar with that, again, revolving around this event, this idea that Magneto kept being like the humans will do nothing.

They're going to murder us. We like need to fight for ourselves. We can't keep doing this. So then all of a sudden you had a kid at Xavier's Institute years after this extinction event. And he's wearing a t-shirt that looks like the Che Guevara, whatever, that just says Magneto was right, has Magneto's helmet, and then Magneto was right on it. And then they start popping up everywhere. But that was in episode five. Well, it happened in four because there was Magneto said at the beginning when Jubilee was like, you know, they're like, she's turning 18.

She'd have a birthday party. He goes, no, she can train because the world doesn't give a shit about her turning 18. They're going to kill her. And they were like, come on, man. And so she gets upset about it. She goes in the video game when she's talking to the older version of herself. She's like, I know this idea of living in a world that's already cut out for you and you know how it ends. And you have the nostalgia is a good thing, but that's dangerous.

you need to step out into the world and you need to grow. Otherwise, you stunt to growth and you could even potentially die and she goes, so Magneto was right. And I was like, that was a very subtle nod to that, but they keep doing that. And so then when they arrive at Genocia,

it says Magneto is right as far as like we can do, we can have the piece, whatever, whatever, which is now going to fully end up having that phrase that Magneto was right about that, you know. Yeah, well, yeah, go ahead of question. Leading up to it too, I honestly did have a little bit of a pacing problem

with this show of everything's just getting wrapped up in really timely fashions, but then when you hit this one, you go, oh, it all makes sense. And especially with him saying, everything prior to this was pre-9-11. So I took you back to the 90s of the, oh, man, you know, like, X-Man and Transformers and like, like, oh, it's all great. And then the world genuinely changed after 9-11, which is the same thing for, like, all of us, but Gen Z now with COVID. Everything was, as it was.

pandemic hits, everything shifts. So I thought that that was a beautifully executed vision because everything that's also been said from some of the team that wrote on it and stuff like that is like, you think five was bad for the last five episodes. They've already been like, because that's the point,

since it's now a post-9-11 world. Right. So, well, you mentioned this, I'm going to be completely honest, he didn't follow a lot of things. You're talking about the Magneto stuff. He's this and he's charged his power. turned his powers off and then somebody gave him a pink slip. I don't know.

But what I did get out of that is that he's probably not dead, right? Do you think he's going to come back? I think Magneto's going to come back. Honestly, okay, no one's permade, typically, in these things. Typically, no one's perma dead. Do I think Gambit might be permade? Yes, sadly. Which is devastating.

Yeah, we got that conversation. Which is so, so devastating. And to your point, too, Winston, I think because of that nostalgia, right, you're able to deliver what Twitter keeps saying of, Marvel's Red Wedding just happened. And you can't do that on any other show five episodes in. You can maybe kill a character that you love, but you can't have the mutant massacre without all that other backstory really

and that kind of familiarity with them initially. And it's so, so well executed. Magneto, I do think you're totally right that he shut down that power because Leach there, the German goodbye. I started crying there. That was rough. Oh my gosh, that messed me up so much. But I think, too.

I think I also think that it is Cassandra because why are there why otherwise are we seeing those psychic attacks? Which I also right because you you essentially you had the other thing that happened and I was trying to figure out what it was I was like is Jean still pissed at Madeline that she's still attacking her from afar and I actually think that that was Cassandra like preemptively attempting to disable the psychics so that they couldn't stop the attack that was coming. I think that Emma is probably even though that so supposedly supposedly the showrunner hates Emma Frost. Oh. That's apparently a well-known thing. So there's some people that are like, no, she's dead. But then there's others that are like in the original event in the comics. This is where her second mutation kicks in where you remember in...

Yeah, she could turn diamond. She was in first class, yeah. Right, so she can turn into a diamond form. So that wasn't originally if she was just a telepath. And then this event happened. And in stress, she had a second mutation. And now she could turn into diamond form. And that happened because Colossus had recently died.

and so they wanted to have a Colossus character still around so that allowed her to almost bridge the gap of both Jean Grey and Colossus into one. I'm surprised I never did this storyline in live action. Yeah, the only thing though is that you would dedicate almost a whole trilogy to it. I feel like you can't, you know, and since you did the original three movies

and you decided we're going to hard pivot, sort of a kind of a soft reboot with Days of Future Pass and First Class and all that, Days of Future Past tends to be that one storyline that everybody knows. Right. And so better to bank off of that,

I just hate that they kept dipping back into the Dark Phoenix well because they kept doing it wrong. They kept doing it wrong, right? And yeah, so when I, so being very clear, I thought this episode was excellent. That was great.

I just always, and I think that's because you guys were also big X-Men, the series fans, kind of growing up, right? So I, not that I wasn't a fan, I just didn't watch it. And then, and it was whether it was just after my time, I should say. That guitar trill, that's what gets you.

It's like, come with this song of my people? Let's go. Did you collect the trading cards? Yes. Okay. I had those. I loved him so much. The other thing I forgot about the episode, did either of you notice at the intro,

what they keep doing very Rick and Morty style, or it's like you have some stuff that's the same, so like morph shooting at sinister, but then you have little nods as to what's coming. So they either show something from the past or they'll show something. that has something to do with it. So like, in this one, you had cable fighting apocalypse. So that nodded to us. Oh, cable's going to show up. And then you had Storm beating Callisto for leadership with the Morlocks.

So it's like, oh, the Morlocks are going to be around. So, like, it's, they give you hints. Yeah, see, I purposely, though, skipped the intro. Now, I do. I quit. Today I did. Today, last night, I skipped the intro because I didn't want to, I didn't want any of those tidbits. I didn't want any of the previously yons.

I just wanted to go in fresh. Okay. That's why... I can understand that. That's why I went in. I don't normally... When I saw it, because when I went, I saw the first three episodes in the theater with him. Go ahead.

And the screening. You hated it. I mean, you love the content. You hated the screening. Because... Grouchy old man came out of it. And what happened was the people in that theater would cheer at everything. And I don't just mean, like, the big moments where you should cheer.

But, like, if someone shows up and went... You should show up your face, bro. And now here, wait, but it's like, and now here's John, the, the,

uh, the milkman. Woo! The milkman, never gonna see him ever again. He's never coming back. But that, oh,

I am that person. Cause like, Glob shows up in this episode, right? And I was like, fucking gloom! What? I was like,

ready to flip tables. This episode's different. No, I can see people losing their minds in this one, but it was just like, because we were there for three episodes and they,

it was like, it was, because I was trying to, you know what it was, the L-CAPA town sound is not great. That's also true. And those seats are hideous. Right.

They're not made for buds. They're not. So I was trying. Not modern butts. The main frustration came from me trying to listen to what they were saying and then hearing every three seconds. And I said, and I turned a whits and I go, stop this. It was just too much.

But the episode itself was really good. It was well done. It did remind me right away of X-Men Future Pass because the Sentinels and the way that was playing. And when Cable showed up, Cable was someone I always knew. Even when they mentioned that they were taking him away, I was like, oh, it's Cable. And it's like, damn, you knew what you're talking about. I was surprised.

Well, Cable I knew. So Cable I knew, well, so when he showed up and how that played, because when the second he shows up. And then how does she know, how does his mom know right away that his name's Cable, that it's Cable? So Cable has come in the original series, Cable comes back a lot. Oh, we does. He's constantly trying to stop Apocalypse. Okay. But they don't know, they've never taken the time to figure out.

To explain that as his son. So she just discovered it with his eyes in this episode. She saw his eyes and it clicked. She's seen her baby. She looks into the face of her son. So she finally, it's finally revealed that, so throughout the whole series, he kept popping up. But in this, in this season, we get the actual birth of him. And then he goes there.

Okay, that makes sense. Okay, got it. Got it. It was just layers on layers, let alone. I love the messy drama of Gene and Scott talking about Are we still in love? And then Logan comes along

And then he just... It's a smooge this time around Yeah, he just goes to There's only one of you read and she goes Oh, she starts blushing and just kisses him He's like the fact that Wolverine After simping for so long goes No, no no

It's Scott's up as a G-grade That's how it is I gotta go Like I was like dude this is Yeah but I respected that though I do too I respected it because not just from the morality side of it But the fact that he was like

Look this is not this is not her and everything that's been going on with this clone thing. This is this is not fair to do. This is not a good win. But what an interesting bit of character discovery though of are you your memories or are you your experiences? Right, that's true. If you've only been told something, if you only have like

that recall presented to you in TV format essentially, do you feel that or are you just supposed to? And it's so cool they're diving into that of you aren't just your thoughts, you are your experiences which has more weight and which actually feels valid to you. I mean, that's a solid point. And, and I mean, you hear that about people that are dealing with, like,

amnesia and, like, that whole same situation of potentially re-falling in love with somebody or falling on love with somebody else. But, again, if we're talking a 9-11 situation, since that is the core of what this episode is, even though this is pre-masacre or everything like that, you're dealing with the situation of, okay, I've heard about 9-11, I've heard about Pearl Harbor, I've heard about the assassination of JFK. What does that actually mean to me with someone just showing it

being a history book versus, oh, I lived through that. That was, and that is also the connection you kind of see with Scott and Madeline at this point. It's like, we actually have been living together in love, had a child together. Right. Versus Gene is just like, okay, well, technically

you're the OG, but I did fall in love with that woman. I don't. Yeah, it's confusing. Yeah, for sure. Overall, I thought it was a really solid episode and it has gotten what it has also done before we move on i think what we talked about this briefly on the show last week what this has done especially this episode has really gotten the interest in the x-men pumping again and it does again just confirm that once all the silly multiverse stuff is over and done with and the side characters go away and they stop taking these

silly swings. It shows you focus on these characters. And it also shows another reason why I believe, and I'll say it until I'm in the freaking grave, that you do certain characters, either it's multiple characters have their own movie, leading up to a big X-Men event. Put everything you have into the X-Men.

This proves it. They're so good. Yeah. I mean, one, there's so many of them, but they're so good. It's such rich IP. And saying that with Marvel as an whole entity, is saying a lie.

The stuff with X-Men has always been so ripe, so wonderful. I love the internet discourse of like, but they're making X-Men woke now. X-Men has always been woke. Like, what are you talking about? Since the 19th-the-19thes. The Friends of Humanity,

that is an allegory for either the Ku Klux Klan back then or the Proud Boys' Net. What are we talking about? They're literally like, you are scum of the earth, you're not human, we're going to kill you. It's a great, like, show, tell me you haven't read the X-Men.

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I have not talked to Winston yet about the Joker trailer. Al-a-Did. Yeah. Chris and I gave our thoughts on, I mean, I did the reaction to it, and we had a full conversation on it yesterday. But the whole, I mean, that episode did really well for us yesterday because we'd simply ask the question, is it the best trailer of the year so far?

What do you think about that? I think that the musical timing was perfect. A lot of the downbeats were on like complete chaos shot changes. I thought that whoever put that last shot together with the lipstick through the jail window deserves their own TV show. I don't know. Like that that was that was like a beautiful shot. And I thought that that was a great way to end that trailer. And it raised enough questions, but didn't give me too many answers.

It officially became, I still think Deadpool and Wolverine is number one for me of what I'm anticipating. But it shot up to number two immediately. And it's almost a one B. Yeah, I'm so, I'm so interested to, because we've been hyped for this movie for a bit, but I'm so interested to see, you said something interesting on the show yesterday. You're like, you know, because you're not, she's openly talked about how she doesn't not a big fan of the first movie, right? Sure. It doesn't do it for me.

No. But what you said is that, yeah, I'm going to see it. And my interest with this one has, it's gone up. Yeah. And because of the musical element of it all. I find the musical element fascinating. I love the idea of shared madness. I think that's really interesting, especially when you go back to original Harley Joker stuff, right? That mad love story of how you can corrupt and manipulate somebody to join you in whatever kind of bizarre shit you want to get into. I mean, that's what's always been so compelling about that dynamic is a renowned psychiatrist gets manipulated by her patient to start committing horrific acts of violence. Right. And herself is abused throughout that relationship,

but stays for so long. Yeah. So there's a lot of interesting stuff here. I think the musical choice is very, very interesting. Like I said yesterday, too, I don't love that they're covers, but I also don't know what kind of original music you write for this. Yeah. I'm just, as I mentioned again, yes, right, for me, because we talked about on the show kind of leading up to it, as long as they don't change the tone of the first movie and make it seem like, oh, well, you know what we're going to do now? Now we're going to do a musical because that'll be, and I'm like, if they stay consistent to the tone

and still make it a musical, and that's what the trailer looks like. It looks consistent with that first movie. It looks like it's all going on in here, and then you're going to get to play the game of how much of it is actually happening, how much of it is actually happening in Arkham. Does he ever really even leave Arkham? I'm sure there will be some kind of big reveal at the end of where he is. Because that was the big cliffhanger with the first one,

was how much of that was him telling a story so he could break out of Arkham and how much of that was actually the truth? Because there were the inconsistencies of like, yeah, then I punched Thomas Wayne in the face. And it was like none of this really adds up or makes a lot of sense. So again, I like the idea that we just might be in his head this entire time, which could also just be very fascinating to see how that evolves. Yeah.

So we did a full conversation on this yesterday also, and I have my trailer reaction. So if you want to see a little bit more coverage on that one, you can go back and watch any of those videos. You watch yesterday's episode or today. But we're going to move on from that, unless there's anything else once you want to say about the trailer? I honestly, the only thing I would say,

and it says nothing to even do with the musical element, I think Gaga was a great choice. Me too. I think the idea you would never have brought Margo just because it's a completely different vibe, a completely different universe and all that. I think Gaga was an excellent choice. I think she's going to play off of him masterfully.

I really do. I think you can already see it. You can already see it in the trailer. I'm very curious. Do you think that this is a, this is potential for him to get a back to back Oscar for this character? And one for her as well. We had that conversation on both the show with Steph,

myself, and Chris, and we had that conversation on the show. Because Roxy and Brett yesterday. The, it's, we both thought, I think Chris thought, I thought, Roxy thought way more likely for him to get nominated again almost nearly impossible for him to win. Just because it would feel too novel type situation? What we were trying to come up with this and no one in the comments could do it either.

What and when has it ever happened for the same character? Now what we did discover and we were and I had guessed it correctly, but we had to do the research on it, was that both Marlon Brando and De Niro won for playing the same character. They both played V-Doh. But not an actor doing the same character twice. So I think, obviously we have to see what she fully brings to the character, not the trailer. I think there's probably a higher probability that if Gaga gives a performance of a lifetime, that she would win it over him, even though they're not the same category,

that if, let's just say they both got nominated, they would put odds behind her. But I would never count Joaquin Phoenix out because him, like Daniel Day-Lewis, Like those are the type of like just fully in-depth lose yourself in a character type actors that if anybody is going to get two Oscars for the same role and like essentially an original. He's got the best shot. He's got the best shot. I mean, it's going to be very interesting to see if it does. And it's coming out at a time where people will remember it because it's in October whenever it is. So it's like right around the corner.

And one of two superhero superheroes. I say that in quotations too because the two offerings we're getting of comic book movies are. so off kilter from what we're used to. Yeah, it's true. And I think that that's a good change. I think it's needed. Absolutely. All right. Moving on. Speaking of the exact opposite of the Joker, let's talk about Superman. Director James Gunn did send a video message to cinema con attendees from the set of the Superman reboot.

We were told to expect something from Superman director James Gunn during Warner Bros. Cinema Con panel, which led to some speculation that we may finally get a first look at Man of Steel. Unfortunately, we're going to have to wait a little longer to see David Cornswett suited up as the legendary DC Comics hero, but Gunn did send a video message from the set for those in attendance. The filmmaker revealed that the movie's cast would be at next year's CinemaCon to kick off the summer of Superman. Corinswet and co-star Rachel Brosnahan also putting in an appearance. He says, can we disclose something? There's a man in a cape.

Joked the former, yes. There's at least one man in a cape. Here, they heard it first. Superman logo flashed up on the screen at the end of the clip. We also have what appears to be a merchandise logo, which was clearly created prior to the movie dropping legacy from its title. So there's the actual thing that's been up there for a little bit. The company behind the Dune popcorn buckets seems to be also working on movie theater

merch for Superman. That freaking bucket. What kind of bucket for Superman can you put your... I'm going to a lot of thinking on this one. They call it they. entire life equation. Oh, it's going to be that horrible plant that would mess up his memories. No.

The black dolly. Oh, God. So Superman will also star Nicholas Holt as Lex Luthor. They also say that Millie Alcock's Supergirl is also rumored to make her debut ahead of her own woman of Tomorrow movie, but that has not been confirmed yet. Not exactly sure how these other superheroes will factor into the story, but Gunn has previously revealed that Superman's dual life as both Clark Kent and Manist Steel will be explored in the film suggesting that these characters will be his super friends.

Whether they'll be part of an actual team or not remains to be seen. To me, what really pops out on all this is the idea that Superman is going to be at CinemaCon next year kicking it off because that'll be in April. The movie comes out in June, I think, June or July. Either way. And I love that. It also shows, and granted, one of the reasons that they're obviously not having a Comic-Con because it'll already be out before it hits Comic-Con.

But I do think that CinemaCon is more of the place that you want to put these reveals out, as I think we discussed the other day, because you put your, you want to show the theaters what you're doing. You want to show them, and then them to say, yeah, well, we definitely want the Superman,

and now we really want Superman. Let's put more. Let's put it in as much as possible. So to put it out at CinemaCon, it will get people hyped up about it in the same way they tried to do for the Flash. The hype came out of cinema con for The Flash. The hype was at CinemaCon.

Yes. And then it made everyone go, what did you guys see? And I think, this is my theory, because my husband went in my place because I had to teach that night. I think people thought it was unfinished. Definitely.

And I think then when it was, oh no, this is what you did. So I still, and I still stand by the fact that I, you don't like the movie. I don't mind the movie. I think there's a lot wrong with it, but I think there's a lot right with it. I think that the CGI is atrocious,

and it's it's atrocious, and I did see it in, and I did have that thought in the theater of saying, oh, well, it's just not finished CGI. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what you saw CinemaCon was the same as what happened at the end? Yeah, yeah. Oh, the very end was up there.

I mean, I'm just... No, not the ending, I mean, the CGI and stuff. The CGI with the baby stuff was all the same. Yeah. It was all the same. Well, I mean, it was bad. I get that. I just thought when you were describing it,

I was imagining it was literally just like the vector lines. It wasn't changed at all. The only thing that they changed, I think that we didn't have the reveal of Clooney at the end when I went. You had somebody else, didn't you? No, I didn't have anything. I think it was just nothing. It just went dark. But I had heard different things about that.

I heard they shot one with Robert Pattinson. I heard they had shot one with a bunch of different people. But it's like, poor Clooney. Clooney's always the one that gets like, they shot one with Michael Keaton again. They shot and they used Clooney. But anyway, the whole point of it is that... That was the best part of the movie to me. It was fine.

I didn't mind it. And I watched it with my wife afterwards too. And the stuff, the emotional beats in that movie, I thought. Sure. But that's not what we're talking about. The question is what they're going to actually show at Superman, what they're going to bring forward to it. But revealing this logo, are you hyped for Superman?

I am. I like Superman. And I think that we've had a very big Superman-shaped hole in the WB lineup lately. I think he needs to be present there. I love the logo. Anything that harkens back to Kingdom Come to Alex Ross is really, really great in my book. And that's a lot of the iconography that's been inspiring to James Gunn, it seems, based on his Twitter feed. I'm excited about it.

And I think David Cornswit is going to be a really great Clark. I do too. I think that if you watched, I think it was Hollywood Land on Netflix. That was a great show. And he is just so earnest and corn fed. And I think that's what you need in a Superman. It's probably how we got the job. I think so.

Yeah. He looks the part. It's probably, we have billions. We can make you. We can make you jacked. We just need to make sure that the smallville, Kansas boy is like there. You know, and so I'm here for it. I haven't seen Hollywood land, but I'll check it out.

But you're pumped up for this movie? Yeah, I mean, I've been very vocal that Superman's not really high up on my list of heroes that I care that much about. I tend to find him personally, relatively boring. But I think that there are two very important things. I think one, we really, as a world and as a society right now, we need some. somebody that's going to inspire some hope and like a little bit more kind of just the idea that the world can be better and that's always been Superman's kind of thing. And then the other

thing that I have always said and those are the Superman stories I get interested in is it's not the ones about what can Superman do. It's what should Superman do. And so if we're getting into this whole idea of heroes kind of exist and here come Superman and like I'm assuming the heroes aren't doing stuff maybe the best way that they can, either they're not saving people or they're cutting corners. Like if you've got Guy Gardner, like he's, he's a good lantern, but he's a piece of so like, I wouldn't be surprised if like Superman's like, we can do this a better way. And if that's kind of what's going to happen here, I'm actually here for it. Okay. What's interesting about that is we already know that our villain is going to be a member of the authority. And we already

have that juxtaposition, right, of, oh no, I have absolute power. So I should get to rule absolutely and course correct everyone else because you all are we. and you make bad choices, and I should fix that. And then you have somebody like Clark who grew up amongst everybody with, well, I shouldn't just do whatever I want because I can. That seems messed up. So it's going to be an interesting dynamic. Agreed.

So what do you guys think? You think it's the right choice to put it. What do you think about the logo, first of all? But what do you think about putting into a cinema con? I mean, whatever they're going to put a cinema con, your overall thoughts. Okay, put your comments in there. And before we move on, I know that it is cinema con and it is Vegas. So people getting drunk, I'll tell you that.

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Now it moves to August 23rd, leaving the reboot to share that weekend with blink twice in the forge, neither which should be very strong competition. It's likely a wise move by Lionsgate as the Crow flies away from Bad Boys, Rider, Die, Ballerina, Hitman, and the Watchers in what looks to be a surprisingly busy June weekend for new releases. While the trailer splits opinions, world out of Cinemicon is that the reboot might be better than

expect it. There was a thing here from Eric Davis. It's from Fendango who says, new at cinema con. I'm all in on the crow. We just watched an exceptionally violent and R-rated extended look and it's ruthless. This one's going to go hard, also hearing really good buzz on it. Okay, so the crow, it gets pushed, gets moved. Do I think it is a good move? Yes, that competition was going to knock it into the ground. Now, we watched this trailer for the crow, myself, Winston and Roy. And we felt like we've only three people on the planet that enjoyed it. Now, I love the original movie. It's one of my favorites.

I love that movie. And it's not trying to be that. And yes, I do think that the makeup looks a bit silly, but I thought it looked brutal. I'm still going to say that I'm interested in it. Not thrilled. The director, is it Robert Sanders? But Scars Guard, I like a lot. pushing it into August, this movie seems like it should have always been an August movie.

It seems like it is a summer movie that usually the way it always works is that the summer movies that they think could have a shot but might not do it. Let's put it in August. That's what this movie seems like it should have been in the first place. But you said you were excited about the, you like this trailer? I like the trailer. I like the trailer because I really am not a big crow franchise person to begin with. But this looks promising, I think, especially if you are looking for something that is a hyper-violent. revenge story, which is what it is.

And it feels like it's going to deliver that. Winston? Yeah, I mean, I have intentionally still not seeing the OG because just to be the control, essentially, and like, I'll watch the new one first, and then I'll go back and watch the OG.

You want to do that first? That's what we were saying as far as as a control, because everybody else feels so strongly. Right. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, by moving it, I think it's a you could make the argument well they're moving

because they don't have confidence in it I mean yeah I think it's fair to say that and I think but I also think that it would be smarter if they're like well we have confidence and we think it's a good revenge action film but we don't have enough confidence that it's going to be able to take on ballerina

we don't think that's the John Wick spent off yeah oh that makes more sense and they show that too okay and isn't it in they both Lionsgate I think they're they don't know But you throw ballerina, so now that I know what that is, yeah, you don't want to go up against that. But you also, you also don't want to go up against bad boys, to be honest with you.

And bad boys, right. You get out of there. And you have a better shot in August than you do in June against those movies. So that's a very smart move. But it doesn't take away that they thought maybe we looked the way people reacted to that trailer. And we don't know. I don't think there's going to be a lot of interest behind it. So let's take a shot in August.

So I think it was a very smart move. But what do you guys think? Do you think it was a smart move? Do you think they should have stayed in June? Do you not give two craps about the crow? Put your comments in there. Let me know what you think. Fair or not,

Kozhou's Eternals is seen as the film the first showed a real chick in the Marvel Studios' armor. Domestically, it was the lowest grossing film of the MCU pandemic movies, and it still sets as their second worst-reviewed Marvel film to date. Despite its rather public failure, There have been plenty of rumors regarding a possible sequel or continuation of some key characters and other projects. One person who's been the subject of such speculation is former Game of Thrones star, Kid Harrington, who starred in the film as Dane Whitman, a character who eventually becomes the hero of the Black Knight. Out promoting his film Blood for Dust, Harrington tells the playlist that as far as he's aware, all that talk is unsubstained as there is nothing going on with that character.

I have always been intrigued by that character, and it's one of the main reasons I came into the Eternals, the character. For anyone who knows the Black Knight, his dissent because of his superpower, I think it's a brilliant allegory about addiction and things, and I think it's a really cool character and a really cool story that they haven't mind yet. But I don't know whether they will. Like, honestly, I've heard nothing about any sort of plans, and I know they would always keep their plans close to their chest.

But at the moment, again, on that front, nothing going on. And then he was asked if he'd prefer to reprise the character in either a series or a movie. Harrington says he'd be more than happy to come back. I don't know, to be honest. I wouldn't know until I got shown what the plans was if there was a plan. So I think if there's a sort of strange murky area now, TV and film, I don't know. But both could be the right thing or the wrong thing, but I think that the character is there, and the story is there to do something really interesting with it.

This also follows the fact that the John Snow show is no longer happening. So kids having a rough week with the project. Bad week for him. I know for sure. I don't know. It's the eclipse. It's because Mercury's in retrograde. The number of women who have said that to me this week

have made me so uncomfortable. Somebody said something like, you know, everybody says the Mercury and Retrograd. I don't remember what she said. She's like, oh, it's like Pluto is now in what had Pluto's been in this for this law, but now it's in that. So that means that everything is about to turn on his ear. And I was like, when I hear you guys talk about the things that people are saying, it really puts into perspective of how much I love.

love my new philosophy that I don't pay attention to anything anymore. Like, I really love it. I really love that I don't know. I have a resting listening face, though. So we're not constantly, they're just like, let me tell you about this. And I'm like, okay. Sure. You do. You kind of give off like, like, enchanted, like, like, princess vibes. Be it like, oh, my God, I feel like I can tell you everything. Oh, okay. I'll be inside you're like, oh. It is. It is. All right. So this character, though,

I'd like to see him come back. I was hoping he would do more in the movie, and it clearly was setting him up to do more, and then they had that scene where I guess that's blade that shows up at the end. It's definitely a harshless voice, yeah. I'm actually re-watching phase four, because I was just like,

is it as bad as like we were saying? And it's something that I'm actually going to do on my channel. I'll talk about that later. I don't think it is. I don't think it is. I think the Eternals answered some really, or not answered, but asked some really interesting questions. I like the Eternals. I do think phase four is a lot down. It's been some big swings and misses.

But I think the Eternals itself was a really cool project that I think is a necessary movie because we have had these very black and white ideas of what do you do? You stop this person who's trying to eliminate, you know, half the universe because of resources and materials. Oh, that's a bad thing to do. That's genocide. That's horrible. And then you have other people who go, wait, hold on a second. let's think about some of these things and these ratifications

and how we can actually prolong humanity and other things. Now, does that make it the correct argument? No, but it is an interesting posture just like the Superman thing of when do you get involved? What's your business and how much of other people's business

is it your responsibility to take care of? Yeah. The fact that, the fact that, because so I'm in the middle of No Way Home right now, but I just, so I just finished Eternals. And the simple fact of, like you said, No, our direct is just the deviants. They got to figure the rest of their ish out.

And then when you don't, you end up with Fasius accidentally giving them the nuclear bomb and him having a full meltdown. And the only thing that I wish would have happened is if Oppenheimer had some sort of like connections to me. It was like, here you go, Brian. That movie came out before, so they didn't know he was working on. I would rather watch that movie a hundred times in a row than to have to watch Marvels again, to be honest with you. Yeah, I think this is a way better movie than the Marvels, and this is way better than a few other movies.

The fact that it's the second lowest of all time, that's crazy. That's wild to me. I've only, so I'm only watching the movies. I'll come back to the TV shows because that's just way more time than I'm willing to commit right now. But I'm just watching the movies, and I've only gotten through, what is that now, three and a half. And so far, none of them are misses.

Like, Black Widow, I don't love what they did with Taskmaster. It's just dull. I actually rewatching it, I actually found it incredibly fascinating. just you ruined a character and taskmaster that was is an incredible villain yeah well I hated that that movie also came out way too late yes that movie should have come out

three years before it did fully agree with that but then shung chi like the little hangups that I had with the father I fully take all that back that movie is fantastic and then Eternals is great the only thing that made me pause for a minute because then we started to get into this territory I was like this shit almost three hours but other than that it was

it was a master class in my opinion. There's a reason why Chloe pitched it. They're like, yeah, go for it. Yeah. Did I see that with you? No, you went with toy. So, Coy, okay. Yeah, there's,

Shung Chi is another one for me that it's like, I love that movie up until the end. Because it really, that movie was relying on it being like cool kind of martial arts film, father and son's story. And then they're like, but we got to have it.

It's got to have a Marvel ending. Put a big silly dragon flying around the CGI and make a big spectacle. Gotta do that. And it's like, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, but it's, it's, it's, it's the same thing in Dr. Strange. It was that,

it's the, the philosophy and with Casillus and all that, the dad was being controlled by that demon the whole time because he thought it was the wife.

So it's, so I get what you're saying, that's technically also a Marvel ending, but it's dormamo in a different flavor. Sure. Fine. Sure.

Yeah, sure. That, that movie is, I think the thing with phase four is that there's not a lot of them that I want to go back and rewatch as opposed to. I've rewatched a bunch of other Marvel MCU movies before and would go back and watch a bunch of them. But like, Noe A Home definitely. Chung Chi, you know, once is fine. Wow.

Eternals, I really liked it, but do I have to go see it again? I don't know. The TV shows, She Hulk, please never put it near my television ever again. The Wanda Vision definitely watched that again. Loved Wanda Vision. The Wanda Vision was fantastic. Falcon Winter Soldier. I liked it, but I don't necessarily know if I need to watch it again.

But I did like that show more than the most. Moon Night, I liked more than most people. Moon Night for me, the last episode was horrible. Yeah. The second last episode was one of the best episodes of Marvel ever. That's why those short runs are so silly. I know. Like, why are you giving me six to eight episodes?

Tell your whole story. Tell me the whole story. And then I'm trying to take some of the other ones. Marvel's no thank you. Hawkeye. Miss Marvel. Ms. Marvel's great. Ms. Marvel, but same type of thing that, same issue I have with Shung Chi with Miss Marvel.

When they focus on the character stuff and the family stuff, it's my favorite stuff. I love that stuff. The superhero stuff and Miss Marvel's like, eh, it's fine. What was the other one that you mentioned? You just mentioned one? Oh, no, you mentioned Hawkeye. Hawkeye to me was, I didn't love Hawkeye as much. as much as everyone else did.

I liked her a lot. Oh, yeah, and then Echo, no thanks. Yeah, what? Echo, I thought, was good until you got to the end. You'd have a lot of ending. You'd want to re-watch it again? I would re-watch the first four episodes, and then I would be like, I'm done.

I don't need to watch the last two. I don't know. And then I'm trying to think there's any other. What else came out? We're off by night. That one I would watch again. Dr. Strange, Ant-Man. Guardians.

Yes. Every time I want to be sad and clutch my dog. Guardians 3 is one of my favorite. And the holiday special, which I did like, I do love watching that. So there are a few, but then if you go back through like phases one through three, there's like most of them are yes. Even Thori Dark World, I have watched four times. People shit on that movie. I like that.

It has good moments. I'm with you. I like it. I like it better than most. It's not good. I'll never forget. I'll never forget. And you better take it back now.

We went and saw that... I haven't got to Love and Thunder yet. We went and saw that piss piece, love and thunder, which I hate that movie. I set myself up for failure with that movie. I was quoting Gore going into it. I was like, I have been baptized in the blood of the gods. Because you expected a real movie.

Not a Saturday Live movie. And I remember turning to him afterwards, and I said, I said, Dark World is way better than this movie. He's like, you take that back. He's like, no way. I haven't gotten to it yet. Just chill, bro. The movie stinks.

And then the Civil War logo just dropped between the two of you. That movie stinks. It's a stinky, stinky movie. It's so bad. It's one of the worst. You love the goats. I do love the goats. I do love the goats.

You hate the people at the screening, but you love the ghosts. I do love the goats. I do love those goats. Backtracking tremendously. There's obviously no way that Dane's going to make an appearance, though, before we have a Blade movie, and that is in limbo. So I don't know. How dare you?

stick to the topic at hand. No, I don't think so. If he shows up, it might be in that at a post-credit scene, but it doesn't even look like that's even, they've even asked him to do that yet. Who knows with that movie? We're ever going to see it and see Blade. What they need to do is do the Blade movie,

and then if you really help in on doing it, Dr. Strange 3, then that needs to be like Dr. Strange of the Midnight Sons and then go that route. Who knows who ever going to see another Dr. Strange movie either? Charlie Starr on, they put her in that scene, and then it's like, that's... Same thing. with the Harry Styles.

Because just rewatching the Eternals, I was like, oh, there's Star Fox. We're... You have my beeps? I've got to do for you in this episode. All right, thanks for joining us here today. Appreciate it. I'd like to thank the panel for being here.

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