The Kristian Harloff Show - James Gunn Addresses A Potential Exit From DC Studios?!

Episode Date: October 23, 2025

James Gunn Seemingly Addresses A Potential Exit From DC Studios! On today's episode of The Kristian Harloff Show, we break down the latest reports surrounding James Gunn and the future of DC Studios f...ollowing Warner Bros. Discovery's sale announcement. What could this mean for the DCU's long-term plans — and will Gunn stay on board? Plus, new Star Wars rumors are swirling! Reports claim the Rey movie has been put on hold while a long-delayed Star Wars spin-off might finally return to development. We also discuss the surprising reveal that David Fincher was once developing a Star Wars movie post–Rise of Skywalker that ultimately fell through. And in animation news, Hasbro is officially bringing "GI Joe" and "Transformers" together in an all-new animated crossover event! Topics include: James Gunn Seemingly Addresses A Potential Exit From DC Studios Following WBD Sale Announcement RUMOR: As Rey Movie Is Put On Hold, A Long-Delayed Star Wars Spin-off May Be Back On The Table David Fincher Was Also Developing a Star Wars Movie Post–Rise of Skywalker That Ultimately Fell Through GI Joe & Transformers Animated Crossover Set Sponsors: RUGIET:  Ready to level up your confidence in the bedroom? Head to http://www.rugiet.com and use my promo code KRISTIAN for 15% off your first order. Upgrade your wardrobe and save on @trueclassic at http://www.trueclassic.com/KRISTIAN! #trueclassicpod Head to http://www.Strawberry.com/KRISTIAN to claim a special offer and get started. That's Strawberry dot M-E slash KRISTIAN. Stop settling. Start building the career you actually want.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So many stories. So many stories. We're going back and forth today about which stories to go with. And so as we mentioned, and it's the same thing we mentioned with the Dr. Doom thing, when we said Robert Downey Jr. could potentially play Dr. Doom, what are you reporting on that? It's one site. And then it's like, well, because of the potential that it's in a realistic lane.
Starting point is 00:00:23 And the same thing happened when we talked last week about what is the potential of James Gunn's future when it comes to a potential sale of Warner Brothers to whether it's Paramount or any other place, which Warner Brothers is clearly on the market. We talked about this yesterday. So James Gunn himself, not necessarily directly, but hinted at whatever the future might be. Now, is it necessarily tied into this sale or is it also tied into his contract? A mixture of both will discuss. The other thing that we were going to talk about is where we were going to go with Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Adam Driver recently mentioned that there was a story that he and Soderberg had kind of come up with. Lucas from loved it. Iger and Cruz shot it down. Well, now there's a report that David Fincher had a movie. It was ready to go. too much money he wanted final cut so they said no no can't do it um other stuff ray we've been saying it for a while now looks like that movie at least the rumor is that that movie's put on hold so what does that mean overall so much that we're going to be discussing let's get into it it's myself and step
Starting point is 00:01:52 Sabra here on the show, Christian Arloff show here today on this Thursday, everybody. Let's get to it. Welcome back to the show, ladies and gentlemen, here today on this Thursday. I wasn't sure if I was going to be able to do the show, but I was able to. And I'm glad because I love doing the show. Oh, you couldn't even hear me. Hello, Steph. Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:02:26 I'm glad that we got a chance to do the show again. Yeah, wait, where were you? What happened? Oh, there was a potential that I had to do something. family related today, but I might have to do it tomorrow, but I still might be able to do the show if I started a little early. So things are just maneuvering. And I was like, well, no, no, let's, let's do the show. Because we're, we're fresh off of our watch of the running man with Arnold. That'll be going up soon. You want to tease a little bit of what you thought? Oh, another,
Starting point is 00:02:56 banger in the Arnold category. This one had probably the most Arnold one liners out of all of them. It was like just every second hit, hit, hit. Hey, Killian, I'll be back. So good. Yeah, I love that we got that in there. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It's like he has his own lore. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:17 They're like, okay, you can do that. Hey, light bulb. Hey, Christmas tree. Yeah, the characters are crazy. That's great. It's funny because this morning, there's a lot of times Thursdays, as we've said, Thursdays can be late on news. Not today.
Starting point is 00:03:33 There's a lot going on. And like this morning, Luke was sent, we were going back and forth with some stories. And we were not debating, but discussing what we really should lead with. And I thought that maybe, you know, this Fincher story and the race story were pretty big in general. And he's like, yeah, you know, but you follow up on this, on this gun thing. And I was like, it really is, it's a story. It's a thing. And this is like, because we, so Roke and I brought this.
Starting point is 00:04:01 So there's an article written by. someone who clearly isn't a big gun fan so I can understand the pushback from the fans where you're like, well, this guy clearly has an agenda against them and doesn't like them. But it wasn't about who wrote that article. It was about the actual
Starting point is 00:04:16 potential of if you get bought, if there's a, it doesn't, it doesn't, this happens many different companies. If you're, no matter what your plan is, if your company gets bought, there is always a potential that you will not be there.
Starting point is 00:04:33 if your wing of your part of your company does not fit into what the new ownership wants to do. I mean, I remember when Complex bought Collider. When there was, we were doing things for a bit and then Complex wanted to go off this and it doesn't fit in our thing. Everybody's getting fired. People don't really, Fernandez gets so much crap for the way that everything ended. but he was the one who said, well, I don't want everybody to get canned. I want to make sure that I'm going to buy it myself. And his vision still fit with a lot of the stuff that was going on.
Starting point is 00:05:13 So you never really realized too much of what was going on. But when compas wanted to get rid of it all, it just wanted to keep the website. So you don't know if that's necessarily going to happen, but it's a potential. It's a possibility. So we covered it. And guess what? Complain your asses off because we're going to. keep covering it, especially with what is happening now.
Starting point is 00:05:34 What James Cumbers on this podcast is called Boba Talks. And I'm going to play the clip first. And then I'll read the story itself. But here's the clip. Things in lie. But yeah. Absolutely. So one thing I've been really curious about is you've referenced things like
Starting point is 00:05:53 Peacemaker Season 2 and Lantern's setting up different threads and arcs. How far do these arcs go? like do they culminate in man of tomorrow or can we expect them to go further than that if i yes they they definitely go significantly further than man of tomorrow okay so uh now now you know whether or not that'll be me that's able to fulfill that promise is to bet a lot of things in life all right so a lot of things in life no wait a minute what what happened there this that's not the news story what's happening there Hold on stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Give me a sec. So here is the actual article by comic book movie now, who is now also covering this. More and more people will cover this. He seemingly addresses a potential exit, seemingly. So after years of speculation, it's been revealed that Winter Brothers Discovery is officially for sale. Now James Gunn has seemingly addressed his future for the company. Ever since Warner Brothers merged with Discovery, Inc., rumors have run rampant about a potential sale of the story to Hollywood company. Rumors started gaining traction when it was revealed that Paramount Global had submitted
Starting point is 00:07:03 an offer to purchase Warner Brothers Discovery. Soon after, sale intentions were confirmed by WBD's Board of Director. For some, talks of a sale put into question the future of DC Studios, specifically that of James Gunn and Peter Safran. People wondered whether a sale would mean the executives would be forced to leave their roles or they'd be allowed to stay on and continue with their plans for the DC brand. Now it appears, emphasis on appears. James Gunn has addressed the possibility of him leaving. We just played that clip. And so at Spark speculation, he was trying to say if I stay, I don't necessarily know if that was true. It's worth mentioning that Gunn may not necessarily be talking about the potential sale. He could be commenting on the ever-changing nature of the
Starting point is 00:07:43 entertainment industry. He could also be talking about his contract coming up. This is important to stress James Gunn did not in any way say he was leaving from what can be interpreted from the comments. He simply alluded to the possibility of not staying on at the company, and that could be for any number of reasons. Now, in the case that he was alluding to what is happening with the sales, some may wonder why Gunn may address an uncertain future for himself and nothing set in stone to answer that possibility. It's important to consider the culture inside a company when significant changes are in the horizon. Exactly. As bystanders, we see everything from the outside and can only go from the little pieces of information that are strategically released by the parties involved.
Starting point is 00:08:20 People working inside of the company on the other end have usually a good or somewhat coherent idea of what might be in store when a big shift happened. That in particular is true for someone in such a high position as gun. As such, it makes sense that you'd be aware of any potential risk should WBD be sold. Fans may be quick
Starting point is 00:08:39 to position the possibility of changes at DC as a negative stance on the future, but this is simply a matter of corporate reality. And it goes back basically into what Steph and I were just talking about. But yeah, absolutely. The stupid thing.
Starting point is 00:09:00 So, Steph, you know, you see that. And this is why I was, I still, I just power through all the nonsense with people saying, why are you covering? Why are you covering this? Because it's a freaking huge potential story that, does it necessarily mean, even if it gets sold? Does it mean that he's out? No. But even he knows that you don't, let's see what the future is.
Starting point is 00:09:25 His contract, other things, it's a possibility. there's also something very telling. James Gunn tweets back about everything. If someone says, hey, I heard that, you know, Superman's suit won't be blue. He read some, yes, it will. There were articles about this thing, about him potentially leaving the thing.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Where was this comment of like, this is all nonsense? I'm not going anywhere. Never came. Never happened. Because he knows, he doesn't know the future yet. He hasn't signed his contract, his new contract. He very well might. He could stay.
Starting point is 00:09:58 but this is a story that is developing, hence why we will and why we are and will continue to talk about this. But what do you think, stuff? Yeah, I think it's definitely an interesting time for all of the media companies, the major companies. And I do think it is a little bit even different than before because I feel like we used to get monopolization and have mergers. But now it feels like there's vested interest more so than ever in terms of like a lot of the billionaires or people purchasing these companies do have political interests that like just and then not to get political just really factual out there right now so when you see someone like james gun specifically who has a very strong point of view in his movies and shows that we've seen already thus far with just even
Starting point is 00:10:52 peacemaker and superman it does kind of it is kind of concerning in terms of I'm a James Gunn fan. I like what he's doing. I'm excited for the future projects and his idea in terms of DC in general. So I and then you put that together with it's business. So you never know what's going to happen in terms of it might not fit their vision, whatever that may be. So it is kind of nerve-wracking for people like me who do appreciate James Gunn. I do see people in the chat being like I don't like James Gunn. So this is a good thing. I do so it's kind of a bummer and and also I don't like these major mergers in general because I feel like it closes in on the creativity so we're now only getting the viewpoints of a few separate companies. Sure. I mean, I think I mean, look at Disney when they bought over Fox and everything that happened there. And one thing I will tell you, you know, is that as he said, all he said there was we will see.
Starting point is 00:11:56 basically what the future holds is what that statement said because there is no as we said yesterday Warner Brothers said no to Paramount's second bid um Netflix not sure if it's going to happen right Apple we don't know there's no there's nobody that is really ramping up that this is what is going to go down so James Gunn is I mean he probably has more inside information obviously than we it's okay what's my future like if Paramount amount of buys it. What's my future like if Netflix buys it? What's my, his future is different at every different company. Because every different company you might have, say, well, no, we like what James Gunn's doing. We want, we have this idea. Well, we want Abdi and DeLuca to run it. We don't want
Starting point is 00:12:42 Abdi and DeLuca to run it. We want this. We want that. You don't know. You just, he doesn't know. And that's why with the fact that he's got the contract coming up, the new one, Right. Of course it's in limbo. And that's what he said. I don't know. He didn't necessarily say, well, if it gets bought, I'm out. He's just being realistic. He's being realistic here. We're saying, we don't know what the future holds right now because I have my plans. I know where I want it to go. But if you're a gun naysayer, don't start cheering and yelling yet because you don't know who's going to buy it. If you're a gun fan, don't start cheering and yelling yet because you don't know who's going to buy it. It's one of those things where it's just it is up in the air. I don't know what the future of, if someone said, what do you think? I have no idea because I don't know who's, I don't know who's close to buying. I do think, though, this is what I will say. I think most likely Paramount will buy it. That's my gut says.
Starting point is 00:13:41 I think that their next bid will soon will get enough traction that they're going to go, okay, we're good with that. We're going to take it. Now, does that necessarily mean that gun will, goat will be out if Paramount buys it? No. But it's his it's it's it's the option that he probably doesn't want because of the politics of the dude who's who's running. Now I think that they should give him an opportunity to say hey we want you to come in finish up your contract and let's see what we can do here moving forward. I think you give him another shot and see what he can do
Starting point is 00:14:23 on his next few movies, sign him to another year or two years under Paramount because there are a lot of people who love him too. And if he doesn't deliver or do the things that you want to do under your new banner, then you have the right to say, okay, after that two years, then we're going to, Duluca and Abdi will take over. But just removing him right away, I think, will cause too much of a stink. Yeah, definitely. And I think that we've seen people already kind of be ready to use their money in a different way than we have before because it feels like for a lot of people that might be like the last bit of power they can assert in all of this to be like, no, I like this. No, I don't like this. And that seems to be how America works is like we're just,
Starting point is 00:15:07 you know, we're a capitalistic country. So that kind of matters how the fans feel. And for someone like me if he was just ripped off without any chance of like seeing how he does like letting the money talk in terms of what he brings in then that would really really rub me the wrong way and i probably would be off dc for a minute it's just well i think that what would be confusing to them for them and for the fans in general because like like this is another thing that he said that is very realistic and I'm curious to what you think here, right? So let's say that they don't bring him back, but they keep his plan in place. Like they don't reset the whole thing again because I think that would be a major, major error.
Starting point is 00:15:59 A new Superman again. Like, okay, yeah, you know what? We didn't even, we're about to cast one to remember. We have, we can't because we're not going to go the gun route. We're not, stick with what he set up. you know, and then give it to new people and let it kind of push forward, as opposed to just resetting the whole thing again. You reset it again this quick.
Starting point is 00:16:21 That's, I don't think that's going to be beneficial to anyone. No, no. I think that would be a disaster. Right. And that's if he goes anywhere at all. The other real, the other possibility is it doesn't get sold. The likelihood of that, someone said it in the comments and I agree. when was the last time you saw a studio that was up for sale and it didn't get sold?
Starting point is 00:16:43 You know what I mean? It's like it's a Warner Brothers. It's like that's a big property. If it doesn't get sold though, then business will go on as usual, at least for a little bit. Because this, make no mistake about it. This was always Zasloff's intent. It was always his intent to buy it, build it up, and sell it. and that's what he's doing and he will accomplish that.
Starting point is 00:17:15 So I don't know. And I think other people are saying it too. And this was my point yesterday is that Ellison, who is, you know, the king of Paramount right now, he wants to get it done. He's got enough money to get it done. He's playing hardball. Someone says this was the third bid from Paramount. I thought it was the second, but someone said it was the third and they rejected the third.
Starting point is 00:17:37 They're going to keep going to keep going for it. put in two or three bids already, they're going to keep going for it. Because where are the other bids coming from? We haven't heard any yet. Right. Right. Yeah, it feels like that's the ultimate goal and it will probably be achieved. I think so. And I think that that's kind of why gun is insinuated. I do think that he is, they said they wouldn't sure if it was necessarily tied into the sale. Of course it is. I mean, I think they're right for writing that because we don't know. Of course it is. Of course it's tied into the sale. And it's a
Starting point is 00:18:09 another reason why I mentioned beforehand. There was no mention when that when that article is going around, no matter who, it doesn't matter who wrote it. He didn't respond to it. He responds to everything. He responds to everything. He responds to everything.
Starting point is 00:18:25 He would if he wasn't going anywhere and there was no risk of it at all, he would be like, this is ridiculous. Don't pay attention to this. I'm not going anywhere. He can't say that because he doesn't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:39 So anyway, like I said, these are the types of stories that we will cover when there's some juice behind it. Now, as we said, does it necessarily mean that he's out and that he's going to leave? No, it doesn't. He very well could be in place for the next 10 years. But this is a possibility, hence why we did cover it, covered it today, and we'll cover it again tomorrow. So get ready for it. Anyway, let's get into the, some more topics. But before we do, I've got to tell you, I mean, Bubbs,
Starting point is 00:19:17 Bubbs has been incredible and True Classic. You guys who watched a show yesterday, you know how I feel about True Classic. You will, I'm telling you, True Classic is the best. Bubbly is the best. And I hope that you guys, like I said, I gave you the codes. I saw somebody said that they're getting tired of their T-shirts. You will never go back. Step, I love True Classic.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Love these shirts. It's like they just fit nice. Yeah, they do look great. Thank you. I like them. I like them a lot. Okay, you got seven, you know, 100 more. 107 is what you're going after.
Starting point is 00:19:50 107. Okay. So let's see if you can do it. 107. I think Steph can do it. We've got a lot of good topics here today. Steph, I've been talking about it. We're getting close.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Our phone call is on Monday, hoping for the final, the okay to where we can finally announce the director and producer soon of the show. I told Roxy on Tuesday incorporated your and her notes pretty well for the latest draft, and we're pretty excited about it. And we talked about it quite a bit on yesterday's show. So we're getting close, Steph. So you have a big meeting Monday? Monday is our meeting, myself, Martini, and the director and producer are getting on a call to hopefully
Starting point is 00:20:37 they sign off on the final script that we just sent them. And then the casting choices that we want because we're saying, okay, if we know, like, let's say there's a particular name that we want for, let's, there's a character name Ron. There's somebody that I want that I think would be great for Ron. So, okay, let's say that we can get so-and-so to commit to being Ron, and we can also commit so-and-so to being this character. Well, we know that we're going to, at a minimum, have to be.
Starting point is 00:21:07 pay them this right so let's incorporate that into the budget so then we say that we know that we want a dp that um did i tell you the the show that the dp is shooting um now that that that they want no i'm going to text it to you okay and that's that's who we're going out to the the dp of that show to shoot this oh shit, that would be sick. So, and if that's the case, we got to incorporate that. So then it's like, all right, here's the, at a minimum, this is what we can make this show for.
Starting point is 00:21:49 At a minimum, we need more, but at a minimum we can make it for this. So that's kind of where we're, that's where we're at. Hell, yeah, that's awesome. Yep. Okay. So let's get into this next topic because, where is it? That's not the topic. Oh, there it is.
Starting point is 00:22:11 So we had, there's a couple different, there's a few Star Wars stories. There's one in there. Where's, I didn't see it on that. Luke sent it to me this morning, but I didn't see it in the show notes.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Where is? Let me double check. Maybe it was in the show notes and I didn't see it. No, it's not in there. There's, there should be three Star Wars stories. And we'll talk about all three of them as soon as I, as soon as I find the third one.
Starting point is 00:22:33 But right now, this one, this is a, interesting story to say the least we've been talking about this i said this on tuesday show when i was talking to roxy about this roxy myself and mike were discussing and i said i can't imagine that that ray movie is going to happen i can't i i just i just can't see it happening especially with all the new rumors happening with starfighter and everything else well this is a new rumor ray movie is put on hold there's also a long delayed star wars spin off maybe back on the table
Starting point is 00:23:07 also maybe this is the same story maybe Luke did send it okay uh it sounds like work has again slowed on the ray movie starring daisy ridley but with the bad news comes good as another long-away to spin off is said to be back in active development if this is the story i think it is i don't know this is a good news uh with star wars finally returning to the big screen lucas film plans to explore what happened after the rise of skywalker the high republic initiative proved to be a letdown the books and comics didn't strike a core with fans and the acclimate was canceled after one season of Disney Plus, there's only so much storytelling potential exploring gaps between each previous movie
Starting point is 00:23:39 and a post-episode 9 setting does somewhat create a blank slate for filmmakers. Filmmaker Charmine Obeyed Chanoi is developing a movie revolving around Ray, set 15 years after the events of the Rise of Skywalker. It's being written by George Nolfe, who replaced Stephen Knight, who in turn took over the reing duo Damon Lindelof
Starting point is 00:24:00 and Justin Brett Gibson. As we first reported on SFFGazette.com, following the news that Disney decided not to move forward with the hunt for Ben's solo movie starring Adam Driver, Scooper My Time to Shine. Hello is reporting that the Ray movie is now on hold until Lucasfilm approves Nolfi's script. It's been slow going for the project that was first announced at Star Wars Celebration in 2023. Lucasfilm is clearly struggling to crack the story, but this era will be explored in 2027 Star Wars Starfighter, which is expected to feature a cameo from Ray. Still, as one movie is put on hold, another might be back in active development, according to Dana.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Rickman, the Lando feature starring Donald Glover, is once again being worked on by Lucasfilm. The plan had it had been a Disney Plus series. Now it's involved into a movie. I just want it to be fun. As a Star Wars fan, I think it's important that there needs to be fun being had. It's very hard to have fun right now. It's tough because we're very serious things happening. There's only, those are only the things that connect us really.
Starting point is 00:25:00 So I get why things are serious, but part of the human experience, I believe, is why we have a responsibility to have enjoyment and I just feel like we're lacking in that department pointed out as much as he loves a star wars franchise it can be super serious sometimes too serious everything that's to do with the Skywalker's is so serious lando I think the best part about him is a scoundrel and I feel like people can relate to that and it's probably like man this war is whack I need money which I feel like everyone can relate to you I just want to bring fun to star wars I just want it to be fun okay so there's there's a few things here stuff um the first and that is the ray movie. We've been talking about this. You said this, I think last week, and I couldn't agree with
Starting point is 00:25:41 you more. This is just one of those things like, well, why in the world would you bring her on stage? Why would you bring the director on stage if you don't have a script that you're going to go forward with? Why would you even do that? It's because you go and you, wow, we're just excited to bring her back and here's the director. Yay. And you've known, you've seen already how many times you've lost the director and writer don't do that and they did it and nothing nothing has has happened um so are you shocked at all that this movie is being on hold and do you think that we'll ever see this version of this am i shocked no but am i a little bit surprised yeah because they took her on stage everyone kind of felt like that was and i know they've done that before they've made announcement at star war
Starting point is 00:26:30 celebrations but it just felt like this one was pretty solid they were going with a character that people have loved and seen. It's not like a new thing. But do I think that this could ever happen? I don't know anymore. Like I think that once they kind of stop with the momentum on a, on something, it doesn't really happen.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Like I don't know when something lost momentum. They said they don't have it after like four years in the making. And then like a year later it was like, we're moving forward. Like has that happened? Not offhand. saying it didn't but there i mean you look at a movie like uh world war z which is a different type of thing where it's like there's so many reshoots uh things that happen like i don't know
Starting point is 00:27:15 this movie this movie's gonna be a disaster but it still was being shot but as far as what you're saying of it being announced problems i mean the patty jenkins thing was another remember that too the patty jenkins right yeah of course oh that's back in development it's back in development no one's even mentioned that movie at all no that's never happening what they should just say, and this is the same problem that Lucasfilm continues to have, is just be honest and say, look, we were excited. We had a game plan that we were going forward with. We were going to do that movie. We couldn't get there. So instead, what we're doing currently is that Simon Kiddberg is going to be writing a trilogy. And in one of those movies, our goal and our hope is that we can put, we can
Starting point is 00:27:59 fit Ray into, as the protagonist in one of those films. We'd all go, okay, well, then that's the plan. It's like, well, this might happen. This might happen. And look, I love Donald Glover. I love him. What are you guys doing? A Landau movie? What are you doing? Right now, how is that driving forward the story and the, and the excitement for Star Wars again? He was the best part of Solo. He was the best part. He was great. He was a great Landau. And he's just a charismatic, great dude. Who's lining up the block to see a land a movie right now. It's not 2017. What are you doing? Keep it as a Disney Plus movie.
Starting point is 00:28:41 A theatrical released Lando movie? When you have all these other ideas and things that you have and this is broken record stuff. You've got all of these books and stories. Adapt them. A Lando movie? This is what you're that. What are we doing?
Starting point is 00:28:58 Yeah, I think that if they want to see longevity, the legacy characters should be sprinkled throughout, but they shouldn't be relied upon what needs to be moving this ship forward is new stories or whether they take that from the books or not. Just something new that catapults a new era for Star Wars so that a new generation can be into it and the older generations can be like, okay, yes, something new that I can hold on to. Because right now, it's like for as much as we complain, people complain about James Gunn, it's like, we're talking about DC, we're excited about the projects, we're interested in the least, because they got someone who was able to be like, this is what we're going to do creatively. Whether you disagree or not, it's better than not having a vision and then announcing stuff and then that never happening. Yeah. And there are two ways, there are two places at this point where Star Wars is, you either.
Starting point is 00:29:59 do what they're doing with Starfighter and build out past episode nine and build new characters, build new stories, play off the lore that was there beforehand and treat it as history the same way we treat the Romans or things that happened in the 60s. You know, whatever. You can, it's part of the lore. It's part of the things, but you're building new characters. You're building things that were built off in the trilogy and you're hopefully expanding it and making it better. That's the future. There are things. There's nothing to really compare it to. And you can build things out good building block or go thousands of years into the past where they mentioned the thing, Floney, from what I hear, I don't know, from what I hear, not a big old republic
Starting point is 00:30:42 guy. So instead, what do they do? They do the high republic. Well, that landed like a fart in an elevator. Go off the old republic. People like it. And where's the, where's the other one is where's the Mangled movie? Where's that movie? Right, right. We're not, hearing anything about that one. That's nothing. That put you that if that happens, if you do that movie, you are, that's the first building block of saying, okay, we are setting up how the, this whole thing kind of went down the formation of the Jedi and the Sith and all that. If you're doing that, you're building out these kind of, this, this in general, the history of it leading into, okay, The next movie's going to jump a little further, maybe 100 years, whatever it is, and you start to build out of the old Republic.
Starting point is 00:31:33 You can have the Sith wars. You could have people aren't going to want to see a Game of Thrones type battle with Sith and Jedi fighting with sabers on a battlefield. Of course they would. If you do it really big, huge, and epic, and you showed the way of how it eventually got to, you could lead into a Darth Bain storyline of how he then eliminated that whole thing. You can make movies for years in that. that era 10, 15, 20 years. But instead, no, you know what? We got to panic. Who's a big star?
Starting point is 00:32:02 Donald Glover, he wants to do Lando. Oh, well, what we did with Mandalorian season three? Give him his movie now, not TV show. Give him a movie. Yeah, yeah, he's a star. He gets millions of views on YouTube too for his videos. Let's do it. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:32:15 It's so silly. It's so silly. Yeah. Yeah. Instead of just in the other conversation we brought up was the Fincher, movie and that I think makes more sense in terms of not necessarily I don't want to I don't know how they bring back solo but in terms of like we've been talking about for months it's like the directors have the pull right now that that would I could understand them putting money into big directors who are having super accomplished projects and visions come to life that I could understand but what I would rather is just kind of them have having a storyline that they're going off with and then sprinkle in, you know, go with the great directors and then have your stars here and there. That's why I think the Ryan Gosling is,
Starting point is 00:33:06 that's why I think the Ryan Gosling is a good mix of like a great director, a big star and then lesser known, well, they have a pretty big cast, but they have some lesser known actors as well. Yeah, it's a huge, well, they, they're kind of building off of things, right? And it's like, and yes, they're not just reliant on just, um, the star. They're, They're building out the lore. That's why I'm telling you. Like, I still think to me that the one that I'm anticipating the most is Starfighter for the possibilities of the future of the brand.
Starting point is 00:33:36 It's like, because people will say this and they will be wrong when it comes to Mandalorian and Grogoo. If it doesn't perform, there will be two ways you're wrong. If it doesn't perform, people are going to, oh, it's it. It's over. Star Wars is toast. Don't make it any, don't make any more. It's over.
Starting point is 00:33:56 cares about Star Wars and Immers. It's simply not the case. You're asking for Mandalorian and Grogo, you need those fans to show up with the TV show. You need it to make $500, $550 million. People will say if it doesn't make $700, $800, $800 is a failure. It's incorrect. Everybody, if you want to have those conversations to be putting their eyes towards Starfighter and saying, okay, this is whether or not people are going to care anywhere because this is literally the future of the storytelling. They're setting it up here. And it's There's so much interesting stuff that could happen that you could then, as they're going to do the cameo with Ray, they should at least know what the hell movie they're making with her by the time they give her a cameo. If you're just throwing her in there to throw her in there and you don't know the future of what she's going to do, then it's the same old no plan.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Well, they just want to see her. It'll be cool. You've got to stop making movies like that in this galaxy. You just have to. Yeah. Yeah. I'm in agreement. Yeah, guys, what do you make of it?
Starting point is 00:34:59 What do you think? What do you think about the news? Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you want to see a Landau movie. Is that one you want to line up for right away before they really do anything else? And the Ray move. Are we shocked that this movie is on hold? Will it ever happen or will it actually fold itself into the Kinberg trilogy?
Starting point is 00:35:19 Or will that trilogy not even happen? All right. Let us know. your thoughts in there. We're sticking with Star Wars because this is kind of relevant to what Steph was just saying. But it also, it's confusing because you would assume that that Lando movie will probably cost, I don't know, 150, 200 million to make, right? Yeah. So part of the report on this story, oh, hold on a second. This story is, is that Lucasfilm turned down a movie from David Fincher.
Starting point is 00:36:00 And they're also following up with, will the hunt for Ben Solo now happen? So this is a new report revealing that Lucasfilm, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, decided against moving forward with a Star Wars movie from David Fincher. And then there's also an update on whether the hunt for Ben Solo could now become reality. Earlier this week, Adam Driver revealed that he and filmmaker Steven Soderberg were developing the hunt for Ben Solo.
Starting point is 00:36:29 It's a follow-up to Star Wars, Rise of Skywalker. Unfortunately, Disney X couldn't wrap their heads around. Kylo's return, and the project was scrapped. Now, Jeff Schneider brings word that the House of the Mouse also decided against moving forward with a Star Wars movie from the Social Network and Fight Club director David Fincher. Report doesn't share many details other than this being a story set after episode nine, that would have focused on an unnamed character from the Rise of Skywalker. The project was Fincher's idea, but talks fell through when Lucas Homer refused to give him final cut of the movie.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Fincher got his start on Star Wars, where he worked as a crew member of Return of the Jedi. Lucas eyed him to direct the Force Awakens very early in its development. While Kathleen Kennedy produced his 2008 movie The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Fincher has since set his sights on a follow-up, Quentin Tarantino's Once Upon a Time in Hollywood for Netflix. back to the hunt for Ben Solo. When Jeff Snyder reached out to his sources about the timing of driver's comments and whether they might be setting the stage for his return. He said, I was assured there are no plans for him to return to Star Wars, especially with Kennedy expected to step down from her post early next year. Star Wars fans have been very vocal about wanting this movie to happen with many perplexed that the reasoning for it being scrapped is that it wouldn't make sense for Ben Solo to have survived.
Starting point is 00:37:45 The Rise of Skywalker's entire premise had somehow Palpatine survived. Yeah, but everybody hated that. I love that people are using that as a reference. Like, but they had Palpatine come back. Yeah, but everybody hated it the way that he came back. It doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:37:59 I always was interested in doing another Star Wars. This is the driver stuff. And we covered this right. Yeah, that part of it stuff, I didn't understand where people, people were going, well,
Starting point is 00:38:11 wait a minute, they did, but Palpatine came back. They can bring him back. Because everybody hated how that happened. Right. Why would you, why would you reference that?
Starting point is 00:38:20 I think they were like, we would rather this and that and you already did that with this, but it does fall into the same category of why do it. Yeah, I think what's more interesting is that there are these big directors that are interested in making Star Wars films. The Soderberg one makes a little less sense, but it is like, I do understand why they won't want to be super controlled. and I think that's where Star Wars has part of the struggle is where like these directors and writers want more of a say or a final cut on it and they're unwilling to do that. And that's going to pose issues for a lot of people. Yeah, it will be. And look, the thing with Fincher is that as I brought up to you when I did that article is that we were probably going to guess that that Dan, that, the Donnie, the Lando movie,
Starting point is 00:39:17 will probably be in the range of like $1.70 to $200 million. That's fair to say, right? Yeah. So Fincher, one of the other reports that wasn't mentioned here was that it was too expensive. They were worried about the budget, which assuming, let's say it was $2.15, $2.20, right? Let's say $2.50 for David Fincher to do a move.
Starting point is 00:39:38 I think it is way more realistic that the reason why, and I believe the report, that it was the final cut aspect of it, because it would have been a David Fincher Star Wars movie and they would be like, okay, we can't, what are we going to do? I do understand as much as I would have said, give them final cut. It's going to, we're going to get it, we're going to get an and or out of a movie. As much as I understand that and wish that it would happen, as much as I'd like to, you know, pile on them sometimes.
Starting point is 00:40:05 I understand where the company has to say, we can't give you a final cut of our product. We just, we can't. We can't because we're going, we're going in a different place. we can we can agree to disagree on certain things where we can give percentages or stuff or wherever it might be but we can't give you a final cut we just can't do that i i hate to say it but i get it if it was if it was um tony gilroy doing a movie for star wars and he asked for it i'd probably be more inclined to say you saw what he did already you're ready he gets it he understands it give him final cut he knows what he's doing and we know where it's
Starting point is 00:40:43 It's where it's going. We don't know what Fincher's going to do at Star Wars. We don't even know he gives a shit about Star Wars except the fact that it's nostalgic to him because he started that out on Return of the Jedi. So I would love to see that movie. But I also agree, this is another thing I wanted to ask you. We've had this conversation since you and I have known each other maybe 87,000 times. Kathleen Kennedy, I've rumored again to be leaving the beginning of next year. Is this actually going to happen?
Starting point is 00:41:13 in this time? Or is this just another? No, stop saying that she's going to be there until you and I are off this. I think so. I've been saying this for a while. I do think that she, I feel like on her end of things, she has to have some sort of interest in leaving just because it's like, I don't think most producers want to stay to the same place forever. And especially because she's done it, you know, she did It's not like she didn't give it a go. Like she's really had a legacy here. Like whether you like it or not, there is a Kathleen Kennedy legacy. So I think that it makes sense for all the reasons that it would be a nice time to kind of transition,
Starting point is 00:41:59 especially in this time where they're like not moving fully forward with a ton of projects. Get someone new in there kind of really stick down your plan. Like hopefully someone that pitched something that you really want. like to kind of understanding the vision maybe they have a creative on board with them and then they can move forward in a completely different direction yeah um i happen to agree with you i think she's going to step down um there's good news and bad news with it for me for me not for everybody else but for me the good news is i think that it's time for her to move on do her own company do her thing. I think that she hasn't put in a movie out since 2019. And the last movie she did, well,
Starting point is 00:42:45 a movie for Star Wars. And last one she did was a major failure in Indiana Jones. She's got a bunch of TV wins. You know, people just like to give Gilroy the credit here. But like she produced the Indar guys. You know, so like and that had won some stuff. And it got a lot of accolades. And he said that she was totally on board. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that doesn't mean enough to give you, she's had more losses and wins lately, as we were just talking about with all the directors and everybody that bails off of the projects left and right. It's not ever to go. And I think she knows that and she's going to be said that. I think, I think at this point, this isn't just like kind of rumors. This is just, these are one of those things that it's leading up, almost like casting news. It's leading up. It's leading up. Okay, so-and-so got cast. It's going to happen. Now, what part in the beginning of the year? I don't know. The unfortunate, part is I definitely think Flonnie's getting the job. And that's horrible for Star Wars. That is, that is the worst thing that can happen for
Starting point is 00:43:45 Star Wars is that, if he gets that seat, you're, the same type of stuff is going to, it's going to be a disaster for Star Wars. The brand will not, well, I don't even know if it'll survive it, but it'll, it'll, it'll absolutely, it might plummet. It might plummet. It might plummet if he takes over. Yeah, because he's had so much say in the
Starting point is 00:44:05 past couple of years and it's not I mean they've had some wins but generally there's like no clear direction and if I think you're at any job for a few years with that much power you should have moved it somewhere in a clear path
Starting point is 00:44:23 yeah yeah it's like it is it is absolutely 100% um as much his blame with creatively as it is hers people don't realize that he's been in that position for longer than it was announced.
Starting point is 00:44:40 And, you know, we'll see what happens with, with Asoka. Maybe, maybe he's learned his lesson. I don't know, maybe not. And I've said this many times over. There were a few episodes of Mandalorian that he directed that. I thought were phenomenal. Like, phenomenal. The pilot was really, he directed the pilot.
Starting point is 00:44:59 The first episode he directed. I really liked that episode. He's directed some really good episodes. I don't know if he wrote those. And maybe he did. people can tell me, but I don't know if he wrote it. It's the stuff that he gets too much of the, like writing the whole season of Asoka by himself and season two,
Starting point is 00:45:15 that gives me no, no hope. And then him taking over and being in charge of actually what movies are being Greenland? Holy shit. That's, that's terrible. That's terrible. We're just going to have cartoons. That's it. That's it. It's going to be cartoons. Live action cartoons with horrendous writing. He didn't direct the pilot. I thought he,
Starting point is 00:45:36 did. Was that Favreau directed the pilot? Maybe you guys were right. I know he directed at least like four episodes in the first season. Yeah. They might be right. Three and they were good. There was only one that wasn't my favorite, but then the other ones were really good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Philoni, no, see, what are you talking about? Why don't people just type stuff? He did direct the pilot. Directed episode one. Stop it. What? Did he say maybe he said he didn't write it? Only he said he didn't No, he said he didn't direct it.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Yes, he did. He directed the pilot. Stop that. There you go. Yeah. He directed the pilot and I think he did a good job. And he did. He directed one and directed three.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Look it up, guys. It's Google's right. And you literally have it at your foot, your fingertips. It's right there. That's what I did. Type in who directed the chapter one, the Mandalorian. It's a guy by the name of Dave Filoni. Come on.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Anyway. curious about what you think about all of it, the Fincher stuff, the Kennedy stuff, all that and more. Let's get to our final story today before we get into our questions. And that is something. I'm going to do a reaction to the first Welcome to Derry episode. I'm going to do that probably. I'm going to try to record it today so I can get it by Sunday. Well, the reviews are in for that show.
Starting point is 00:47:06 and here are the reviews. The It Welcome to Dairy reviews are in. So, reviews are in for It Welcome to Derry, the new HBO Max spin-off of the two-film adaptation of the Stephen King novel. The project serves a prequel unfolding in early 60s in the period before Pennywise goes into hibernation and reemerges in the 1980s in the first film. Taylor Page, Jovonne Adepo, Chris Chalk, James Remar, Stephen Ryder,
Starting point is 00:47:39 Manolin Stowe. Oh, Madeline Stowe. Oh, Madeline Stowe, isn't this? I love Madeline Stowe. And Rudy Mancuso's star, while Bill Scorzgard is reprising his role as Pennywise. On Rotten Tomatoes, the series is at 80% with 30 reviews, sampling of the reviews. Let's see if any names that I know in there. No, no, no, no, no. Masterfully woven and terrifying tale about the origins of the monstrous Pennywise,
Starting point is 00:47:59 The Clown. The show may be set in the past, but its times have never echoed louder today. telling a story episodically provides far more room to breathe and grow if done well and welcome to Derry that extra narrative real estate brings to life not just the titular town but the overloaded people who populate it. Let's see. It, welcome to Dairy rests in the category of unnecessary pre-equals that are engaging enough for fans but fall short of expanding the universe in any meaningful way. Let's see, last one here. An engine fueled by filling in the blanks isn't built to last and these dots once connected prove tacky and sour. So there's mixed there, it seems like, from the reviews that we read there.
Starting point is 00:48:37 But Steph, do you have any interest in, in Welcome to Derry? Have you seen a chapter one and two, yes? I have, I've seen chapter one. It was so scary to me. It was very, very scary that I don't think I have interest in this, but I was kind of waiting to see what the general public was saying about it, what the pop was saying. It seems like it's good. like I had a, I saw a good reaction to the first episode that it wasn't like perfect, but it was enough to keep people interested.
Starting point is 00:49:08 So I don't know, though, it seems really scary to me. I'm curious. I mean, like I said, I'm glad that. Let me know. I will. I got the screeners for it. And I'm going to be checking them out. The beauty of it is that they come out week to week and not just, you know, dump into one.
Starting point is 00:49:25 I hate when they do the dump. So it gives me time to like watch one episode, give me myself some time to do it. So I'm interested in doing it, interested in seeing it. I'm going to tape my reviews also for the two movies I saw. I saw Bruce. I did my out of the theater on that one. I didn't get my out of the theater reaction up on regretting you. So I'm just going to do a combined review of the Bruce movie and regretting you.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Put that up today. So, and then I'll get to Welcome to Derry. And I like what they did here when they, they were smart because it always reminds me like Bumblebee, which just says Bumblebee, didn't say Transformers Bumblebee. Maybe it does now, but I don't think it's right. This says it. Okay, it's it. And it's welcome to Derry.
Starting point is 00:50:05 So I know it, I know the brand. It's not just some random name. And you don't know what the hell it is. Yeah. Yeah. I love Scars Garden this role, though. So I'm very excited for it. He is great.
Starting point is 00:50:18 It's true. It's pretty crazy. Yeah. Hello, Georgie. All right. The thoughts on this one. You're going to check it out. Welcome to Derry.
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Starting point is 00:52:33 Here is the deal. We're going to start right now. We're going to double check. You guys are going to keep your questions coming. You can be about anything, by the way. It could be about any topics we talked about today. It can be about any questions in general. Anything you want to ask us,
Starting point is 00:52:49 stuff about her reactions that she's doing. You want to ask her about her channel. You want to ask about the pilot. Whatever it might be, we want you guys to have a conversation. So let's do it. All right, starting with, again, 29, and here we go. Okay, there's quite a while before we got our first question. I'm going through the, I don't know when they posted it.
Starting point is 00:53:15 I like when Luke posts the show early and he did that today. So it gives people some time to build up the questions. Our first one, I believe, is I am two-fly cam, who says 80% of the news from Star Wars is bad now. they're sad to see it you know it's and I don't think it's always their intent that that's the case you know right right no I don't think so either I think they're just like we're updating the people but it's sad because everyone wants people want to be excited about it again yeah and unfortunately you can't be excited about it again until you know what your product is we don't know what their product is. We don't know. They haven't had a movie since God knows how long.
Starting point is 00:54:01 And it's like I said it. I said it's to Roca. I said it to him on the air and I said it to him, you know, off air. God bless them for still doing the Jedi way and whatever it was. It was like when I was doing Star Wars shows that there was, there was, there was news that was coming out all of the time that we were discussing. There were things that were, I mean, when we were doing Sith Council, you know, it was like, okay, there's news, there's shows, there's things that were and there was always enough for a show where it wasn't just criticisms. It's exhausting to just like everything. It's like, you know, it's, it really goes back to bad leadership.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Yep. Yeah. Ralph Fincher, David Fincher, the director of seven, five club, Zodiac, social network, gong girl. They said no to Fincher. It's a fireball offense to me. I mean, listen, I get it. I get it. But the question again is, what was the story?
Starting point is 00:54:52 And it's, it's not easy to give up final cut, especially on a brand right now. I mean, maybe because of the position that you are in that you just say, hell with it's David Fincher, let's do it. But do the, Steph, would they have, this is something we didn't cover. Would they have found themselves in the same position, though, that they are with TV right now? Because everybody just wants to do Andor and Follone, I don't give a crap, what anybody says, he had little to do with that show at all. And wasn't a massive, at least for the first season.
Starting point is 00:55:18 And everybody wants to do that. And nobody wants to do Asoka. Everybody wants to do Andor. So if they're making their movies, then Fincher does a one-off. and does like a great Fincher movie, do they find themselves in that same position as maybe is that what they kind of said, I don't know. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:55:34 that's interesting. I feel like it's more so the final cut, but definitely could see the possibility of someone creating a one-off that's so good. And then everyone kind of wants that, but you can't get it again because it was the one-off created by that director. Right. Right. And that's, again,
Starting point is 00:55:56 showing what's what's your what's your vision because if your vision is we just want many people to make star war stories and there's no trilogies there's none of those things is just star war stories remember the most comical thing I feel like we're the only ones that ever bring this up yeah the most comical thing that I that I saw was the announcement that had come out we're not making trilogies anymore then the thing it's the slate like two days later and hey there's Simon Kittberg's trilogy is all trilogy talking about yeah it was it was hilarious um or 447. When Warner Brothers
Starting point is 00:56:28 gets sold, what happens to the films that they make with Legendary, like Dune and Godzilla? If Legendary doesn't want to work with the new owner of WB, what happens there? Who keeps the IP? I think that they have a contract with WB. So all of WB's contracts
Starting point is 00:56:43 goes with whoever buys them. So, you know, if they say, you know, Legendary has a contract with us, well, our contract is now yours. You know, that's, and And I'm sure there's something inside of it every single time. If the company gets sold this, this, and this, who knows.
Starting point is 00:57:00 But I do think that that particular, I think Legendary will be fine with making movies with whoever the new leadership is. I don't know, Steph, how do you see it? Yeah, it doesn't seem like Legendary has, I don't know personally enough, but it feels like they don't have like serious vested interest in who's paying them. Right. I think legendary will be a okay Ralph it's okay Star Wars is beneath David Fincher right now anyway Super Stoke for his Cliff Booth movie written by Tarantino F the Baby Yoda movie I'm not gonna go so far as the baby Yoda movie
Starting point is 00:57:38 I'm looking forward to what I want to see from that Mandelorian Grogu movie step is I just want to go and the way that I felt about seasons one and two like when you got a really good episode of that show that's all I want to see I want to see I'm gonna I'm gonna have it's my other show go to cornbread hemp.com slash dTE and i'm going to take a gummy i'm going to sit down i'm going to watch it and i'm going to say you know what this is a good tv show good episode of a tv show i'm digging it that's what i'm hoping to get i feel very similarly i i hope it's just like a good time i can maybe um my nephew should be old enough by then and he doesn't care about what happened
Starting point is 00:58:18 before to see it and that would be awesome so i hope it's just a good time. I don't expect to be blown away by it. It doesn't need to do that. Yeah, just for it just it just needs to satisfy the viewers of one and two and get them in there and not and not do Lizzo and Jack Black stuff. I do hope that my one thing with Mando that is like kind of nitpicky, but honestly, I don't think it is in terms of the amount of money Star Wars has. It says like with Mando specifically, they'll have like the Mandalorian Village and Carl Weathers Town and it's like 20 people. And I'm like, I need the background actors. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:01 I need I need you guys to build the town for me because this is like all we have right now. Can I see at least 100 people? That's a very good point. It's a very good point. How do you feel about the fact that Theo Vaughn and Burke Kreischer were cast in it? Were they? No. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I'd be like Theo Vaughn is on a legendary run for being like, I'm looking like, I think he's funny, but like he, it is like crazy how he's on a legendary run. That would have been crazy. What's he been doing right now? Well, it just feels like he has such, um, it feels like he had such a niche audience, but it's kind of just like blown up just being himself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's surprising, but I mean, it shows you what author.
Starting point is 00:59:49 authenticity can get you. I know, I remember Theo back from the comedy store days. He was always very, right. Like, he's always very, he's always very nice to me.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Yeah, he's like a nice dude who's just like learning about the world. Yeah, he's hilarious. Mike Joyce, James Gunn may get fired no matter what. He's a liberal and Homer buys Warner Bros.
Starting point is 01:00:09 May fire him to appease Trump to get deal approved more easily. Yeah, I don't think it works like that, Mike. It's like, oh, you know, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:16 it's one of these things where, hey, he's in. Don't like his point of view, you're fired. Now, I'm not going to say that's not in the mindset, but if you do it that way right away, that's going to cause, that'll cause a backlash right away. What you've got to do is say, here's, this is our, they're allowed to say, okay, James, we're taking a contract.
Starting point is 01:00:37 They can make his life hell and basically, um, officer and gentleman him and try to make him quit, you know, and or just don't renew his contract, but just firing him right off the bat, I don't know. I don't know if that happens. Yeah, that'd be pretty crazy also because James Gunn does a very good job of, I feel like, just focusing on his work and then kind of putting his point of view through his work in a very artistic way. He's not like as loud as like, let's say a Mark Ruffalo where you're like very clear
Starting point is 01:01:11 where he stands as a person in politics. And so I think, you know, there's, Trump thinks he's. Trump thinks he's part of the rebellion in Star Wars. Like I don't, I think he would have to like really look into gun stuff to kind of see that. I don't, I don't think so. I don't think it'll happen.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Johnny Patrizah, who's your favorite henchman, not in a Bond film? But does henchman have to be bad guy? Because I would say Chewbacca. Chubacca's kind of a henchman. But he's not a bad guy, though. He's a sidekick.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Favorite henchman. Yeah. I have to really look into that. Yeah, that's an odd one. I like it. Yeah, it's a good one, but I haven't a, yeah, I don't think Chubaco would be considered a henchman. So I don't know. I have to, I have to look.
Starting point is 01:01:59 I have to look into that. Maybe Fenneick. Yeah, she's kind of a head. Kind of. Yeah, but she turned good too. Jalen Frazier. I watched the interview James comes referring to if he'll be the one writing or directing certain key moments or other writers directors will be getting the chance to put forth key moments themselves.
Starting point is 01:02:17 I mean, that's also a good way to put it. It's actually another great way to put it, right? Good point by Jalen and should be addressed. That maybe he wasn't referring or whether or not he was going to be there at all. Maybe he was referring to whether or not he was going to be the one. He's like, I have all these things of what I want to do, but I'm not going to do it. I'm getting burnt down. I'm going to give it a so-and-so and let them run with the ball.
Starting point is 01:02:40 That's certainly possible. I don't think that's the case because of what he said with the future and that stuff. I think he was referring to other stuff. But it's a point that should be taken, Jalen, for sure. Mm-hmm. Okay. Next one after that. Again, 57 right now with a new member.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Mr. X-D. I, Steph with the Vancouver hoodie. Nice. I need to take a trip. I haven't actually, I'm kind of like a faker right now. Oh, you never been? Yeah, me either.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Yeah. But I hear it's like, if you go at the right weather time, it's supposed to be beautiful, yeah. Nature. Well, Mr. X.D. it looks like we have a live stream schedule for tomorrow but I think we might have to move that to today it might be like an impromptu one with me and luke and then next week will be me and pld because yeah moving a bunch of stuff around this week uh tray warden christian baby girl
Starting point is 01:03:34 t's me thank you thank you thank you trey girl hey mr cj Utah get me too stuff doesn't know that yet she will not yet she will not yet she will will. Lisa, Ever's. Gunn always tries to debunk thing. He's lying. He tries to debunk things. He's lying. Who said that? Gun didn't respond to. He's lying? I don't know what you're talking about. Gunn didn't respond to rumors we want him to. There must be something there. Hilarious. No, Lisa. That's not what Lisa is a, is a huge gun advocate, which is cool, but no, it's not what we're saying. I love gun, too, Lisa. Yeah, it's the fact that he's responding to stuff normally. and when it comes to this particular topic,
Starting point is 01:04:22 this is one that you would respond to. And when there's a lot of other things that are happening in this particular potential, he's thinking about it. As I said, a billion times in this broadcast, a billion times. There is a very good shot that this company does not get sold. His contract is,
Starting point is 01:04:44 it gets signed, and that's it. And this is all nothing. But he's thinking about it, because that's what happens in the corporate world. It is very possible your business that you work for or get bought. And the next thing you know, you don't know if you have a job. So yes, you would respond to it.
Starting point is 01:05:06 So Lisa, I don't think you're as tied into this. And the gotcha moment that you tried to do there, it kind of stinks to high heaven and is pretty terrible. Okay. Okay. Next one after that. You should have seen the show yesterday's stuff. I've I've lost, I've lost my patience with this. Battery.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Kylo is only interesting by his lineage. Stay dead. Yeah. I mean, they ruined, they ruined that whole thing when they brought him back to when they brought them good again. They should have followed the Truvaro thing. Alex. Ellison will buy Disney before that Ray movie comes out.
Starting point is 01:05:47 kidding but am i though no i don't i don't oh well buy disney no by disney no he's not going to he's no world that disney will will sell him this he's not selling not to him i don't think so um i think no uh you got a better shot of them selling apple johnny petriza give me star killer and cal on the big screen i'd love to see that too i don't that that would be shocking like if you're going to do all those types of things in that era why is and floney i don't know like punny like punishes Sam Whittver. I don't get it. Why doesn't he put him in a live action thing? You really should. Really should. Kelly Kidd and Derek Johnson. Derek Johnson's back. Where's Derek been?
Starting point is 01:06:29 I've seen Derek in forever. But they're battling. They're battling here. I know. I love you guys. Derek is doing what I need him to do, which is send in separate. Well, no, they're battling. I'll show you what they're battling. This is a crazy town between Kelly Kidd and Derek, what they're doing right now. I'll pay to watch a Lando Orgy film, I guess. All right, battery, that's fair. We're at 67 so far. Alex, I'm making my first official prediction.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Mando and Grogu will do middling numbers at the box office. I think 500 million or less, what say you? Well, that's not middling numbers in general, 500 because of the budget. The budget's only like 140 or something. So 500 is actually a pretty good profit for a 140 movie. Now, if it was a $200, $250 million. movie 500 is is is is middling um for sure i also think it's going to make about 500 550 um that's that's if it hits six i'd be very surprised if it goes past six very surprised there's people so some guys say
Starting point is 01:07:30 like two billion i said i would love to bet that guy everything for the rest of the day of my life yeah someone bet someone thinks that that movie make two billion dollars if that movie makes two billion dollars i will eat this on air i will eat this on air there is no world where that movie even approaches $1 billion. Two billion crazy talk. No, people just don't know the business. So what do you think it'll make stuff? Yeah, I would say like
Starting point is 01:08:03 five to $700. Yeah, in that range. Seven would be a big win for them. Yeah. Armada. Hey, Willie! We need a Mark Ellis as Alf movie. How familiar are you with Alf? Not familiar.
Starting point is 01:08:19 You know who he is, though? No, I don't think so. Alph the puppet? I know El. For your time. No, oh my God. Hey, Willie. I'm from Melmac. Yeah, it's like, let's say. All right.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Steph, what do horses eat? Hey. Willie. Battery. Palp's baby mama is Sigourne Weaver. I hear thoughts. What? Battery.
Starting point is 01:08:49 That's not true. What's going on? Armada. Giant helmet guy. and Barnaby in your series? No, they will not be. So do you know, you know the stories of Barnaby, for sure. I've told you. Yes, of course. Did I tell you that when I was at my birthday party, Barnaby was like, I want to come on your show. And I go, I said, I said, pre-taped. I said, I'll do pre-taped. Why not? Why not live? I go, because do you think I just met you? I've
Starting point is 01:09:13 known you for a very long time. I do not want my entire business to be shut down within seconds. so but that and then you know and uh giants helmet you know hey listen I got a story for you you went time I took a shit in a giant's hell and buried
Starting point is 01:09:29 it in the backyard I'm a giant I'm a cowboy's fan so but that's a whole other story no they will not be in the in the pilot but perhaps later in the season maybe later in the season I'm so
Starting point is 01:09:43 now this is this is maybe this I have like a a very strong feeling i feel like if we film this pilot stuff i think we have a very good shot of going the series yeah that's awesome because the things that you and you and roxy said very nice to roxy said that um i guess she was talking to you and some other people that too but you because she because you guys both read it but she said that a few people in our circle asked if the pilot was good and she said don't be offended by this i said it was surprisingly really good and and she and i said I'm not offended by it. She said, but what she meant was that it wasn't just like a well-written thing.
Starting point is 01:10:20 She's like, this is something I could see on television. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. And something, you know, and obviously come from you guys, that's a big compliment. Alex, I'm doubling down on my bid to be head of Lucasfilm. I promise I won't announce any movies that don't exist. Let's start a grassroots campaign. Go ahead. Go for it and do it. I'm into it. Yep. Let's do it. All right, next one. Shay Markell, what's up Christian and Steph. What's up, Shea? How you doing?
Starting point is 01:10:51 Hey. Let's see. Next one after that is Mark Long. Tuesday's episode not on Spotify yet. Yeah, I know. I had to. So what happened, that stupid Amazon thing that happened, you know, that they would shut everything down on Monday.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Like there's a weird thing that was going on. It wouldn't allow me to upload my episode from Monday. So Monday's episode got uploaded on Monday. Monday and then yesterday's episode, it was a mess. So I'll get, I'll get Tuesdays up there. It'll probably be, Tuesdays will wind up, probably landing on the weekend. There's a possibility now. I just got a text.
Starting point is 01:11:25 I might have to miss capes again tomorrow, which I'm bummed about it. They really like doing it with them. But my thing that was supposed to do today is going to happen tomorrow now. Yeah, now Winston's engaged. I know, a lot of crazy stuff. All right. Awesome. Shay Markell.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Okay. Christian, in regards to how much creative control studio gives creators, has working on the pilot influenced your perspective at all? Not necessarily in this. Remember, I worked in the studio system, you know? So, like, again, 2005 to 2008 is a lot different than today. But you see there's, depending on who the creator is, how much control they get. And I love Roxy to death, but she was just not right in how normal,
Starting point is 01:12:11 Normally, studio do not have that much creative control in what the studios are making. They have the control on the budgets of things. So if I hired Steph's production company on my business and she's got, and her production company has an office on my lot. And so they said, this is the movie we're going to make. We're making this movie. Take a look at the script. And what do you think?
Starting point is 01:12:41 about this in general, right? Okay, we're into it. We want, we, and they'll go through in certain times, depending on what it is. Like, there are certain movies. This didn't happen in, like, when I was there at Silver. There were times where Warner Brothers wouldn't be into something because they just didn't think they could sell it. They didn't know, but Star Wars is a Star Wars brand. So this is a particular story inside of Star Wars. It's not like they're just coming up with, well, we want to do Star Wars. What? You want to do a Star Wars movie? That's crazy. It's like, whatever their creative story is, the fact that they were shot down by the head of the it was pretty different, I thought anyway.
Starting point is 01:13:14 But as far as working on the pilot, no, what I have found on working on the pilot is, because remember, this is a smaller thing. Plus, we don't even know, I don't even know my budget is yet. What I have found with right away was that, even though you have to concede certain things, and you also have to trust in who you have. There were certain things that I had in my head
Starting point is 01:13:38 that I thought would work really well. for it maybe a joke or something too that you have to listen the same way that i listen to you guys with certain things too and things that you say um and there was a particular joke that step roxy um and then two of the people on the team that i'm both the director well one of the producers really who said funny joke don't know if it really fits here and i said well that really happened to me they said it might it might have happened to you just don't necessarily know if it fits right here so you listen listen and you get rid of it and you come up with something else and that's what we did and there was
Starting point is 01:14:16 even something else like there's a whole i mean i can say this now because it's not in the show but there's a and there's a whole opening scene and it must have been what three or four pages stuff with the comedy club and i love that scene it seems great it's a great scene it sets up the history of the characters and everything else too but we ultimately thought and truth be told I thought about this even when we wrote it. It could be its own episode. You know, like you go back into the, if you establish these characters well enough that people care. By the time you get to episode five, you can go back there.
Starting point is 01:14:49 And then you see, oh, that's how they got there at that point. So you just, you make concessions. Steph, you know about that too from writing stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't, you don't go into it thinking everything's going to get made. Right. Um, okay. Let's see. Next one after that. Thank you, Shay. Mando Ruiz. Hey, Steph, have you seen Conan the barbarian or Clockwork Orange or Soulman? No. You haven't seen all three of those? No. Okay. Well, Conan is an Arnold movie. So that one will probably have to, we'll probably do. Um, Clockwork Orange is a crazy movie. Yeah. I've heard about it forever. It's a crazy movie. And it's a great movie. Uh, Soul man, we probably, I don't, I don't know if we can watch Soulman.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Do you know the premise of Soulman? No. See Thomas, this is a movie that only been made in the 80s. See Thomas Howell wants, I think the premise is essentially he wants to get into this college, but he can't do it as a white guy. So he pretends he's a black guy. And he like paints himself up in black face and everything to and the whole movie. It's like it's, it's, it's.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Yeah, I'm looking at this. up. That's actually crazy. It's crazy. It would, it's crazy. Let's see, the premise of Soulman. Oh my God. He's a wealthy white college student. He pretends to be black to receive a full
Starting point is 01:16:19 scholarship to Harvard after his father cuts off his financial support. He takes tanning pills and wears a perm to achieve this deception. But the film explores the moral and legal revocation of his action. Like tanning is what he does. It is actually crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. There's
Starting point is 01:16:36 no world where that... I can't believe this exists. No, there's no world that anybody would even, you won't get in trouble for even pushing play to watch it. Brandon, yesterday's show was great. Thank you, Brandon. I was overwhelmed with work and life stuff and your show had me laughing so hard. I was in tears. It's up there with you don't know shit and so sorry, Lex. Thank you. I was in another one. I was going to send you, Steph, I was going to send you the, like a time code for it because it was, it was, it was pretty, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was on one. Yeah, I was on one. For sure. The ones that,
Starting point is 01:17:08 the kind of the mood that you like, though. So I'll send it to you. Yeah. Shane Markell, I was going to recommend Chad Powers to you, but I saw someone mentioned here on yesterday's show. It's not a must watch, but I genuinely laughed out loud.
Starting point is 01:17:19 Have you watched that show, Steph? No, I haven't. I do want to see it, though. Okay. That's good to hear. Yeah. Steph, you're getting closer at 83.
Starting point is 01:17:27 That's crazy. Okay, guys. You jump to 83 with a half an hour left to get to 107. You might, at 83 right now, you might, you might far, surpass. Barsterpass.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Cali Kid, two-part question. What's your favorite pizza? Well, if you have to have a topping, it's usually either, it's probably, it's probably mushrooms. But I usually just go for the cheese slice. What is your favorite ice cream? Peanut butter, chocolate.
Starting point is 01:17:55 How about you, stuff? Both questions. I like, I really like fresh basil. Like if you just douse it, fresh basil. Yeah, that's yummy. Favorite ice cream. Probably just like a good old cookie dough.
Starting point is 01:18:10 That's a good one too. Yeah, that was probably that'd be in my, that's in my range as well. There are people putting in some big super chats here today. I know. Thank you guys. I feel like that should count for something. It might. Tom Hanks rewatch dinners last night.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Sammy is my favorite movie. So good. When Jack O'Connell screams Sammy, it's the absolute best. Yeah. Okay. So here he is. starting from the first. Here he's back, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 01:18:39 Yeah. He's back. He was missing in action. Derek Johnson showing kicks open the door with his dick hanging out with a $150 super chat and says, throwing some support. Thank you, Derek. Unfortunately, I've been super busy.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Have a great show in week. Derek, I was going to reach out to you anyway because I know you'd mention to me when I was starting the pilot. We're getting it close. I, for sure, or when I think it was Derek. I feel like it was Derek that on one of the tiers on the Kickstarter, we are going to be adding like people being able to visit the set, people coming to, you know, behind the scene stuff too. So we're adding so many different things. And I will absolutely be sending that your way because I'd love to actually meet Derek in person as well.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Yeah, hell yeah, Derek. Support, says Derek. Derek came in hot. And then go, pal. To either of you drive shift. Yes, that's my first car. my first car was taught. My dad taught me how to drive shift when I was first, my first car ever. I don't, I'm pretty short. I drove them for so long that it's, I haven't driven one in a long time,
Starting point is 01:19:45 but I'm pretty sure it sticks with you. I've always wanted to learn. I just never have. You are in luck today because Derek Johnson is coming in hot. Ralph. Thank you, Derek. Hey, Steph. He-he blushes. Nice, Ralph. Hi. More support. And then McKellie. Kid not to be beat. Just does a hello sign with a 199. Callie Kid coming in. Hi, Callie Kid. Geez. There are
Starting point is 01:20:15 battles happening today. Look at this. So then you got Derek Johnson with some support. Derek Johnson with support. I want to make sure that there's other thing that I didn't miss because that would make me upset. Give me a second because I feel like there was something else.
Starting point is 01:20:32 I don't want to miss it. Give me a second, guys. Um, okay. So the first one we had was during support. Derek, Derek, Derek. Okay. Kelly, Kid, so no, we're, we're right. Okay. I'm, I'm on track. So then Johnny Patrice, Steph, full metal, optimist, or attack on Titan? Oh, I think full metal alchemist brotherhood. But if we're just saying that, then attack on Titan. Thank you, Derek. I'm just going to highlight all Derek's has been coming in hot with these. Seattle C.L. What's your favorite alcohol beverage of choice?
Starting point is 01:21:07 These days, a glass of peanut. I like to enjoy with my meal. I'm not a big drinker anymore. Same. I really don't drink at all. I'll have like a nice scotch with my dad on a rare occasion. But yeah, a glass of wine probably. I like enjoying, whether it's with a steak or bowl of pasta when I go out to a restaurant,
Starting point is 01:21:31 I'll get a, I'll get a glass of wine, but like, I'm not a big drinker these days. I mean, I used to, he used to drink, like when I was like, and if I'm going out, like, I had one, on my birthday, I was drinking like kettle and soda, that I was drinking, but that's not fancy. Yeah. Shea Markell, how do you guys feel about Apple TV is currently carrying the sci-fi genre on their backs right now? For years, it's been the number one platform for my sci-fi fix.
Starting point is 01:21:54 I, there's so many sci-fi ones, Shea that I need to see. I still haven't watched Silo. Oh, yeah. Great, right? Oh, Phthalo. Yeah, I do. I know the Apple TV has some bangers for sure, Shea. It's like I keep counting them out and then I keep going back to them. And I'm like, why am I doing that?
Starting point is 01:22:12 Yep. They've definitely established themselves. That's true. They have. I really want to see it. All right. Derek Johnson, again, thank you, Derek. crushing.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Derek, I'm excited to tell Derek, because I don't think, Derek's been out of the show. like so out of the live show so he doesn't really know too much about the the pilot yet so i'm excited to tell him more about it um as i had mentioned to him oh look at this now derrick coming in super hot again damn Derek is coming in not to be out done by the callie kid derrick says look at that guys are crushing thank you so much thank you so much michael support for staff love the hoodie thank you more support from derrick and then we say I am two-fly cam. Chewy's no henchman,
Starting point is 01:23:02 if I do, that's fair. That's fair. I took it back when I said it. Chew Markill, Cheddar Bob is my favorite henchman. Yeah, but again,
Starting point is 01:23:08 he's, if Chooey's not a henchman, I guess Cheddar Bob isn't either, right, from 8 Mile. Yeah. Alex, problem with shooting on the volume is 100 background actors don't fit.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Yeah. I gave a whole presentation to someone on how the volume is hurting film TV. Yeah, because they get dependent on it. Yeah. They get dependent on. And then if the whole village is in
Starting point is 01:23:30 that already, then it's hard to replicate. Yep, yep, I can see that. Because it's like, why would you do that? That makes sense. It's true. Derek, thank you. Kelly Kid says, okay, Derek, hold my beer. What's your favorite Hitchcock movie?
Starting point is 01:23:47 Birds, probably. I don't know if I've seen Hitchcock movies. Oh, man, Steph, we got it. We have a long adventure ahead of us, you and I. I know. Yeah. More support from DJ. I like that new profile picture DJ.
Starting point is 01:24:04 It's cool. Looking good. Yeah. Hell yeah. All right. So more there. And again, I've seen him in a bit.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Super Adam Cox, Christian. Yesterday's show is especially hilarious. Thank you. There was most people, 98% of you got it. I was inside. Yesterday was the wrong time to be messing with me,
Starting point is 01:24:22 though, because like I was in, I was in a mood. There was somebody who was just like, nope, this isn't my speed. They didn't even say anything wrong. I banned the,
Starting point is 01:24:30 from the channel. I was in that kind of mood yesterday where it was like someone said, was it right to do that? No, absolutely not, but I didn't care. And then someone, someone else said, what was it? This was, that first news read was painful to listen to. Band, they're gone. Oh my God. Threw them out.
Starting point is 01:24:51 I was having a blast doing it. I was just, it was the wrong, it was that version of me yesterday was the wrong person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just tossing people out. Your variant came through. But I was laughing like the Joker when I was doing it. It was hilarious. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:07 I support it. Derek Johnson, thank you. What are you doing for Halloween? My kids will be doing stuff for Halloween. I'll be with them. That's it. I'm going to be with my nephew. Okay.
Starting point is 01:25:19 And I'm going to be Mao Mao from Apothecary Diaries. Nice. Yeah. More support, big support here from Derek. Look at. Derek. crushing. Thanks, Derek. And then Jack Lewis coming in.
Starting point is 01:25:31 You guys are really just so, I'm so thanked. How much of the Mandalorian success do you attribute to Favro versus Follone? I tend to give John Favre more credit because the show were on things I did like tend to resemble Falon he's writing as more cartoonish, my personal opinion. I think, look, as much of a kind of a harsh critic I have been for Follone, I think you have to give them both credit for. the success in the beginning of the show because Favre wanted to do a Boba Fett show to start. That's what he wanted to do.
Starting point is 01:26:04 And Flonio said, we can't do a Boba Fisor. Let's do this. And they talked about it together and they collaborated and they worked very well. And they've taught Favreau a lot about Star Wars. Favro taught Fulini a lot about filmmaking. And it worked. The episode three, I think was Flonny's first one. I didn't like actually.
Starting point is 01:26:22 And that did feel very cartoonish. So the writing wise, writing wise, I would, blame Flonny towards him because Favro to the Favro kind of bailed and from what I heard I don't really hear Follone was around too much on season three so I don't know who you blame who do you blame I guess success who do you give credit to
Starting point is 01:26:42 yeah I get both honestly I just have to both have been super yeah yeah you have to um more from Derek thank you Steph I think you're gonna and and you didn't even know who you were going up against today did you no me you're gonna you're gonna beat me you're gonna beat me you're at 103
Starting point is 01:27:03 you're gonna beat me that's awesome guys you're at 103 hell yeah I need this I know a single one without Roka it'll be good Mike choice $100 donation is a shot of beer right Steph is that for your channel no no I don't even own beer who does a shot of beer
Starting point is 01:27:21 That's hysterical It's a shot on the world girls but Yeah Well if you didn't know who he was before you definitely know you don't know who gordon schumway is do you no that's alf hey willie uh Alex happy to watch live what's up Alex I haven't been able to as of late looking forward to stuff watching kindergarten cop oh yeah we'll be doing that I that might be is that one next because we're not really going in order no I don't know I don't know I don't know yet I don't know which one we're going to do next
Starting point is 01:27:50 you put a vote up that's true hey Luke if if Luke's watching can you put a vote on which arnold movie we should do next. Let's throw Conan, the barbarian in there. Kindergarten cop. You've seen true lies? Yeah. Okay, so kindergarten cop, twins, and then I'm missing one, which there's another one that you haven't seen. That's a really good one. Shoot, what was it? Let's say, let's say a racer. Put eraser in there, but I know I'm missing one. Um, okay. Callie Kid, just throwing in another for Kelly Kid. Again, Kelly Kid has been a big Thursday supporter here. Thank you, Kelly Kid.
Starting point is 01:28:39 Casey Grant, go, Steph. You got to beat that other guy. Well, I think they're going to do it. She's at 106. Let's go, guys. Let's go. With 30 minutes to go. Now, can Steph hit the coveted 200?
Starting point is 01:28:54 That'd be crazy. Eclipse. If a director, writer refuses to give the fans what they're begging for, they shouldn't get a say. Poloni or whoever not liking the Republic shouldn't be reason enough for it not to be done. I agree with you. But, you know, the thing is, when you're, A, when you're the head of creative, and then if you're running Lucasfilm, you're never going to see Old Republic. Because he thinks that, you know, it's not what George liked. And that's, let me start. Will Dumas, does A-24 on Lions get bought after?
Starting point is 01:29:25 Warner Brothers. Oh man, that's a good call. I mean, I don't know if they have enough to offer in the way that Warner Brothers and like Disney and all that they do, you know? Yeah, I don't think, I don't think A-24 at least. I feel like they like being able to have full control. Right. But I'm not sure about Lionsgate. Uh, Beto power. Paramount owns South Park and this season has mocked Trump more than any other show movie out there. If they fire, gun it's not because of politics. Well, they had already signed a deal. Right. They had already signed a deal beforehand.
Starting point is 01:30:02 And there, yeah, so that's tough. I mean, that's tough for them. You know, they already had that deal in place and a ton of people watch South Park. No, soul style. It will not break your heart. I love the original 1982 Conan movie. Love that movie for sure. Okay, let's see.
Starting point is 01:30:23 Casey Grant had three separate theaters showing The Last Dragon, Scream and Fright Night last night? How cool is that? At the same time, one day only, I couldn't decide which one to go to. Oh, yeah. I'm always picking the Last Dragon. Yeah. I'm always picking The Last Dragon. And then Scream is the best movie out of the three of them.
Starting point is 01:30:43 Fright Night's pretty good, too, though. Yeah. I don't think I've seen Fright Night. It's an old, there's two. There's two. There's one one thing with Colin Farrell, and then there's one, but there's original. Derek, I've been traveling and I was just recently in Tokyo. That's awesome. I've been out of town for months and still more traveling to. Sorry, guys, been a heck there for months. Don't
Starting point is 01:31:02 you dare apologize, especially what the hell you've been doing too. I just, but like I said, Derek, I wasn't sure if you had heard of the, because you've been gone. We've been doing, like, we've got a lot of work going on with this pilot. And so I wanted to make sure, because I remember you, when I had mentioned it briefly, you'd asked me a question about it. So I wanted to give me an update on it. Again, Derek's coming in. and really making his presence known here today. Thank you, Derek. It's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:31:27 So it's hilarious. So it's a, Derek Johnson can be executive producer and the pilot. I mean, that's the thing, man. I want to send Derek the script because I think Derek's going to like the pilot. And that's what we talk. Because Derek and I talked about like, I taught him, we talked about like Schmodeon stuff. And he was very nice and talking about like his opinions on things.
Starting point is 01:31:44 They're very smart dude. Shea Markell. Steph, have you watched Pantheon? It's awesome. I don't think so. Either. Yeah. Antion. Let me put it down.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Derek throwing in some support here too. Derek has got Derek and others have gotten Steph to 114 so far trying to see if she can do it. Can she make it to 200 today and just put it out of reach? It'll be completely out of reach. I'll be amazing. Yeah, tomorrow it's Steph again. The Kelly Kid, a double shot of good tequila and a few small beers. That's a nice run.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Yeah. Harvest K. Best Henshrin movie Jaws from the Bond films. You know, it was the first one that, first thing I thought of the Bond films, but I didn't even, but I thought he said outside of the Bond films. That's what I thought the question. Yeah, you said outside of the Bond film. Kelly Kid again, Kelly Kid again, not to be, not to be overshadowed by DJ here. This is Kelly King coming.
Starting point is 01:32:43 You guys are out of control. Thank you guys so much. We're super appreciative. Mr. I crap and sheds. Step, have you seen. These old Arnie movies, no, she's never seen any of them. Hercules in New York and Red Sonia. No. No.
Starting point is 01:32:58 The problem with those two is no way we would watch them. Yeah. That's the only problem with those. I, the Hercules in New York was they dub over his voice. I think they have a version of it now where they, they undubbed his voice, once he became a big star. But it was his first movie they ever did.
Starting point is 01:33:13 And they had Hercules and they took his, you know, voice and dubbed it like English. And Red Sonia, he's not even the star of it. It's Brigitte Nielsen. He's just kind of like a, you know, it's like a cameo. Lisa Everett, trying to talk. I'm not talking to, not talking down to you. I'm not talking down to you. Write you off as a gun fan and still not prove a point.
Starting point is 01:33:36 It's also funny. Lisa, stop this. Stop this. It's like you're, you're, you're what. I don't understand what you're doing here today. I appreciate. Yeah, Lisa, what are you doing? I appreciate you very much.
Starting point is 01:33:49 I'm so glad the A that you decided. to chime in here and have the conversation. But no, what we're saying here is that this particular addressing of you, so, right, Lisa, if you decide to put another one in and you decide to have a conversation, my question is this to you. So you don't think that anybody should cover this. You don't think that it is a possibility that if Warner Brothers does get bought by another company, this is the question I'm asking.
Starting point is 01:34:20 So if it comes, this is not to be saying to be talking down to you. It is a question to you. If they get, you don't believe that gun has any, nothing to worry about. No matter who buys them, nothing to worry about, they're going to take him. It's fine. He's not even worried about it. He's not even thinking about it. Nobody's thinking about it.
Starting point is 01:34:37 It's just the media making a thing out of it. I'm curious if that's what you think, because I'm confused by it. I'm confused. Derek, thank you. um 1 23 step and not this is an old school subrah type performance hell yeah like the early days uh support coming in and this is what a what a day you hit when the return this is like this is like that television the television
Starting point is 01:35:03 show the reading the ratings peak because uh because the character of derrick johnson returned to the world uh mr i crap and shits can't do a hundred dollar donations here's two hundred cents well thank you mr i crap amazing Alex, there's another Alex in here and he's better looking, I don't like this at all. Oh, you're a good looking robot. Look at that. And then the good looking Alex says,
Starting point is 01:35:23 I think step needs to see Arnold as Mr. Freed. Oh, yeah, we got to see the Batman movies. That's right. So Steph has seen, she's seen 89, she said she saw. So we're going to watch, we're going to rewatch 89 together.
Starting point is 01:35:38 We're going to watch Batman returns, which she's never seen. She's never seen Batman forever and she's never seen Batman. Is Batman returns with Penguin? I feel like. I saw a penguin. Oh, so you did see that one. And Pfeiffer, Michelle Pfeiffer?
Starting point is 01:35:50 I saw Fifer, yeah. Oh, okay. So you saw those two. You didn't see Batman and Robin and you didn't see Batman forever. Yeah. Okay. Well, we might have to watch the first two Burton movies, make it aware to people that you have seen it, but we want to do those four movies. Okay.
Starting point is 01:36:04 Callie Kid, double tequila shot and a few small beers. There you go. Nice. Alex. Alex, I'm the OG. I tease. I haven't been able to be on much live since the showtime has changed, support for Steph. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:36:17 I'm liking that you're doing it. I'm liking that you're doing it. Let's see. Okay, the poll is up right now. And we'll see which we'll see which ones who's in the lead. Derek Johnson said, you know what? No, I'm not just going to put a comment in. I'm not just going to put in some support. I'm going to give 10 memberships. Derek Johnson and also having a career performance here today. Another support there too. 125 step is that and says, heck yes, I want to know more of this pilot. Yeah, Derek, I'm going to say.
Starting point is 01:36:45 send you, I'm going to send you the, I'll let you know about it because, um, essentially for people who don't know and for people like Derek and maybe Alex who have been, um, away for a little bit. I wrote a pilot, um, myself and my writing partner, Martinique Peritori, who is essentially responsible for creating the Shmose. Uh, we wrote this thing. We are going to start it. We're going to build some talent around it. We're going to like actually, you know, people that names that you know, We're going to go out to their agents. We're going to go out to those. We're going to go out to DPs.
Starting point is 01:37:19 We're going to shoot this if it's like a streaming pilot, whatever. If it's an Apple, Netflix, Amazon, whatever. So it looks to that quality. We're going to film it and then we're going to shop it. But we're going to do it through a Kickstarter. And, you know, the goal is, you look at how much pilots are. And the bear costs 1.1 to make that pilot. Now there's any no way I'm going to be able to raise one, 1.1.
Starting point is 01:37:43 I'll tell you that. but you know, but just to show people kind of what kind of budgets, you know, these people are working with. And so we're going to try to do it as shoestring as possible, but we're going to really aim to make a real, a real pilot here. So when we're going to offer tears, we're going to do all that. I'm getting on the phone with Attack Peter and the director. I have a director and a producer attached, Derek, people that you're very kind of connected and have done quite a few things in this business. And we'll announce those people soon. So I'm excited to to tell you and everybody else about it.
Starting point is 01:38:17 Mr. I crap and shit's last dragon. Winston Better Dress has shown off for Halloween as he said. He really should, but I think he's so in a demon slayer world right now. Kindergarten cop is winning with 57 votes at 44% right now, kindergarten cop. Okay. You'll love that movie. Liam Al Rajabi, first time supporter. Thank you, Liam.
Starting point is 01:38:39 Just want to say thanks for the shows in your time. That is very, very kind. Thank you. And speaking of kind. Derek Johnson again with a big one coming in super hot here huge uh more support there and then hey willie like eating cats too sorry that's what uh that's what al feeds cats oh god yeah yeah that's my cat jumps up they wouldn't let him do it though in the house though uh harv's k outside of bond gary buc from lethal weapon he was joshua mr joshua's pretty damn scary
Starting point is 01:39:14 Mr. Joshua, thank you, Derek. Coming in again, 126 right now. Nathan, Lego Zapata. Hey, oh, do you like Legos? My daughter is obsessed with them right now, Steph. Currently, my favorite is Lego Soundwave Transformers. It's 190. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:39:30 Yeah, I like Legos, for sure. My little one loves. She just built this whole wicked thing. Oh, that's awesome. She's building it for like two weeks. And it was, yeah, they can take a long time. Oh, yeah. And she was, and she's very,
Starting point is 01:39:44 detailed oriented. She was like, she called me up and like, this was the most stressful thing. She calls me up and she's like, dad, I finally finished it. And she's like, I need you to attach this thing. I'm like, oh my God. Like, I'm trying to attach the thing. And I'm like, and I've got like these big claws, you know,
Starting point is 01:40:01 so like so and I'm trying to hold it in these pieces are falling off. And she's like, oh, oh, my God, oh, yeah. So then we turn it and, of course, the piece that we want, it falls and hits the floor. so she's got she goes come on come on oh my god so then she just is like she turns into doc brown and she goes back into the lab and puts it all together and did it again so oh my yeah uh derrick johnson gifted 10 more memberships thank you Derek incredible um oh where did you put the poll up uh luke did you put the poll up on uh community he might
Starting point is 01:40:37 put it up on community guys i don't know if i don't know if he put it on um put it in the chat um okay let's see so again 127 so far and mr i crap and shits who says another 200 cents support thank you mr i car yeah it certainly helps step she it gives her 127 um Liam al rabbi thank you for the last and the good times thank you thank you thanks to all you guys still have 15 minutes left step and you still get 1 28 massive love you guys thank you massive. So as we see, and Kelly kids that don't go anywhere yet. Hell yeah. Look at that. 129.
Starting point is 01:41:22 That is insanity here today, guys. Step, before we get going, where can the good people find you? What's going on in your chat? A lot. Tuesday, Thursdays dropping videos and Sunday going live every Sunday, 5 p.m. PT. Today, speaking of Halloween, I tried to do a Halloween test of my makeup and it like turned into a complete fail. But I'm making the video because that's what I, that's what I filmed.
Starting point is 01:41:56 So, but it's fun. Yeah. It's so come hang out. And then I think that Mike just joined the, uh, drop the discord link. If you guys want to come. We have a really cool community. I love your shows. We were talking about it with, um, Rock's issues.
Starting point is 01:42:12 You put a lot of effort into your channel. You work on it really hard. And it seems like it's been a lot of fun for you. Yeah, definitely. It's good. So make sure, guys, check it out and go Steph's, Abra. Kelly Kitt says, hey, don't grow anywhere yet. One more.
Starting point is 01:42:29 Thank you, Kelly Kidd. Thank you to Liam as well. 131. Pretty crazy. Pretty crazy. Ken, I think it's going to be Winston and Chris tomorrow. planning on doing the show with them, but now it looks like my appointment
Starting point is 01:42:46 is running right around the time that the show will go. So I got to talk to Winston and see if you can host it because I might not be able to do it. Thank you guys. I appreciate you so much. Oh, just kidding. Castle, bro, can we get a troll-2 reaction vid, niche but fun? Oh my God. There's, you know, it's so funny
Starting point is 01:43:06 because there's some movies that I think won't pull, right? There's some movies that I think, I don't know. I didn't think The Last Dragon would get more than 3,000 views. They hit like 10, 15 or something like that. The Transformers' 1986 movies like, I don't know what I was going to watch. I did like almost 40. So I just don't know what movies will do well, what won't. I just don't know if enough people will even know what troll 2 is.
Starting point is 01:43:27 It is niche. There's no doubt about it. But it's so ridiculous that it could be one of those movies that picks up. The algorithm is so weird. Right. Thank you. Callie Kid. Thank you, Kelly Kid.
Starting point is 01:43:38 All you guys. RQMD, Smede, support for Steph. I don't know if our Q starts coming in a new two you're gonna again what do you what else do you have going on this week by the way you have shows or anything going on or just besides well Sunday I go live
Starting point is 01:43:55 okay okay yeah and then we have a writing meeting tomorrow but oh cool you and rocks yeah what do you guys write can you say what you're writing you don't want to say it I don't know if we've said exactly what we're writing can you say the genre Yes, it's a comedy murder mystery.
Starting point is 01:44:14 Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited for that. Yeah. Yeah. And then for people who are wondering, too, yes, there is what we're doing is there's a, there's a role that I very much like, this is, this is the one thing, though, too,
Starting point is 01:44:27 is that we have these roles and then the director and producer said, put together a casting list of the people like that you want. So we put, you know, obviously, and I think somebody in. in here we were talking about certain roles and somebody gave suggestions someone gave like jason lee uh bobby moynahan people you know we put people on that oh that's fine and um and then i made sure we had all these these these names and you know these actors and actresses with people that you know and i made sure there's there's a particular character that i said i always envisioned step sabraff for this character so even though there's these these names that the that the
Starting point is 01:45:01 the producer i said you got to like i actually sent i actually sent your picture to the director of the day i said said, this looks like czar to me. I'm just saying. That's legendary. I'm just saying. And he and, um, he goes, put her on the list. I go, she's on there already. That's amazing. I said she's on the top of it. So, um, hell yeah. Thank you. Yeah, of course. Callie Kid. Member for one month. Thank you. Thank you. Loveing this. Thank you. You guys. You guys are awesome today. Crush today, guys. I can't thank you enough. Really appreciate it. This is a really fun week in general. let me give you a breakdown of what we got going on for the rest of the week i'm going to do a reaction for well the dunkirk reaction is i just got that it is actually um finished editing i'm going to put
Starting point is 01:45:50 that up suit probably tomorrow uh step and i will have our reaction up of um what the hell do we watch we watched uh step help me what do we watch i forget the other day uh we watched the arnold movie with, oh, my God. What's a cool? Running Man. So Running Man will go up on next week. I may put the Zootopia up next week. We've got Demon Slayer this week. Sam's coming in and we're doing Tenet.
Starting point is 01:46:21 Ming's coming in. We're watching It, Chapter 1 and Chapter 2. I'm going to do Welcome to Derry. So we've got a lot of stuff coming in. Got a lot of stuff. Seattle CO says, has Step watched Flight of the Navigator? There's no way. And she's, no, there's no way you've seen that movie.
Starting point is 01:46:37 That would be a good one to watch. I don't know, it will do well, but it would be a good one to try. There's most 80s movie Steph hasn't seen. So that's it, guys. Thank you for being here. You guys rule 137 today for Stee's. So how about that? Thanks for joining us.
Starting point is 01:46:57 Apple Podcast, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found. Thanks for being here. And we'll see you guys on the flip side. Thank you. Bye-bye.

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