The Kristian Harloff Show - James Gunn Comments On Robert Pattinson Being DCU Batman?!

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

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That's so much from James Gunn. He addresses the Robert Pattinson stuff about him being in the DCU. Will it happen? Won't it happen? It also addresses why the big three are so important. So here we go. Let's get into it, everybody. It is the Christian Scharlar show.

Yeah, I know my name. on this Monday. Me and John Roker, maybe. Here we go. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the show here today on Monday. The day after Father's Day, I hope everybody had a great Father's Day.

I did. I had a good meal. I had a good time with the family. So I hope you guys did too. Anyway, don't know where John is. Not sure. So I'm starting to show. I'm trying to do that more.

I'm trying to start exactly on time. I don't want people to wait for me. I don't want to wait for people. We're going to get into it, have conversations about what is going down in the world of movies. And the big story right now is, of course, all the DC stuff, because James Gunn is talking about Superman right now.

He's on the press tour. So he's getting tons of questions, and he's answering a bunch of stuff. So the question is, from a lot of people, what's going on, with Robert Pattinson. What's going on with him in the DCU? Some answers to it. Here is the said article. Gunn is responding to our Pat's bat in DCU talk. I hope that's never brought up ever again. Our Pat's, I don't like the abbreviation stuff.

I hate it. But that's not what he said. That's what I said. One of the biggest problems with the argument that franchises will only succeed if they listen to the fans is that fans are rarely in full agreement regarding what they want. And that's the truth. As Star Wars and Star Trek have aptly shown in recent years, fans get different things out of different incarnations of loved IP. Some have right ideas about what something should be and rail against those that don't fit the mold.

Others are more flexible and open to enjoying and debating the value of different interpretations. On top of that, you get people trying to manipulate the discussion for their own personal or political agendas. Good case and point has popped up today over on DC Studios chief James Gunn's thread's feed. The Superman director has long maintained a stance that the new DC universe seen in upcoming works like Superman Supergirl is separate from the universe as seen in other DC adaptations like the Matt Reeves, the Batman films, and tie-in Penguin series. Guns DCU has yet to offer a good look at its new take on Batman.

Creature Commandos offered the briefest of teases, but it's expected to, that his version will include not just Bruce Wayne, but his son, Damien Wayne, and potentially other bat family members, Robin, Nightwing, Batgirl, etc. That's quite different to Robert Pattinson's dark, loner, and early incarnation of the character, one whose world seems very different to the world glimpsed in Superman. Nonetheless, a segment of the fandom has been pushing the R.PAT's version of Batman to become the DCU's Batman. One fan told Gunn today that all DC fans want the Patinson version to join the DCU, to which gun responded all would seem to be pushing it. Indeed, going by the responses most appear to be against Robert Pattinson's Batman in the

DCU. Even as some are for it, the responses are most courteous, but some are outright hostile. Recently, Winter Brothers Discovery CEO, David Zazov stated that the four main characters of the DCU, Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Supergirl are key to the future of DC studios. There has been an update on the DCU Batman Project in D. some time while Reeves the Batman part two still hasn't submitted its final script said gun the other day okay so that being said there's a lot there obviously and i'm curious what john roka would think about that now the question is would john roca be here here there he is there i yeah nice to see it fresh cut

cut i'm ready to go um so obviously you heard me reading that article there uh-huh now I will say. I'm with gun on, you get that all the time. People all, everybody, everybody wants it. Of course. A lot of people want it. A lot of people want it. Sure.

You leave with a lot of people. Look, I see it, it seems like a lot of people want it all. You can't speak. Anytime everyone says that, even with people that we work with, like, oh, everybody's saying. No, not everybody. Everybody isn't saying it. Everybody is everybody. Right.

It's like, you say, there are some people who. Right. And when you say that, he's right to say, well, I don't know if all is correct. Yeah. And that night might not be where he's going. Right. I don't think, John, honestly, they know yet what to do with Patinson. 100%.

Right. If you take out of this article anything, it's that they don't know what they're going to do with Patinson, what they're going to do with Batman. He keeps mentioning this Batman writer that he's working with, who is this Batman writer that he's working with. What are they coming up with? What are they coming to terms with? Who is really working on this stuff? And what are their plans? Because as I said a year ago, Mushieti is off of this thing. So they don't even know who's going to direct it. Right. And if it's brave and the bold or not. And he said, I don't even know if they're going to call it brave and the bold anymore, which tells you right off the bat that even he's not sure what he's doing

with his Batman and he clarified that he's not going to go forward with a Batman that will be a little campy which is what people were afraid of. So he's addressing some of the concerns, but everything is still up in the air about the whole thing. So yeah, he has no, they have no idea 100%. They have ideas, but they don't have a concrete idea of what they want to do right now because of all the stuff that's going on behind the case. And I also think that that's the right call. Yeah, sure. Let's see right now. Hey man, if you're if you're, if you're, if you're seeing your James gun you're riding high the ticket sales are great

the buzz is really good on the last trailer yeah people are loving what's happened there's like it pun intended there's a lot of hope right now in this Superman film because people are pumped for it it's like this is the most excitement you've seen maybe maybe ever

for a Superman move maybe ever for when it comes to because the reason why even look I'm a Donner guy I love Donner one and two You didn't have social media back then. You didn't have the kind of hype machine that you could put towards.

There wasn't that that much on the shoulders. This thing is carrying a lot. And Gun and other people involved seem to know what they want to do, how they want to portray this version of Superman, and people are responding to it. Yeah. And so if you're James Gun, you're going, okay, look, I put out this trailer.

Let's see how the movie does. I have an idea where I want to go now with Batman, but I don't know yet. You know, the flip side is, if you're James Gun, you also got to look and say people really dig this Matt Reeves stuff. Yeah. So he's in he's he's really not in an easy position here. Yeah.

Because I think that that's why I said, I don't think I know what they're going to do because I think there could be a world where he goes, okay, look, I just made almost a billion dollars or a billion dollars with Superman. Right. We're going to let this thing fly with Reeves. We're going to let it go. We're also going to do our Batman also and we'll let it fly.

But this is the problem, isn't it? When he talks so much, there is so much there to criticize or to say, well, you said this and you can't always just get away with, well, people change their minds. You can't just always get away with that, right? The fact that you came out so strongly in that announcement, you said, this is what we're going to do and we're going to do this and we're going to do that. This is going to separate us. I think you're getting snake bit by all of that because less than half of that stuff that he first

announced is probably going to happen. And now he's already changing his tune on Brave in the Bold by talking about how it's not going to, it might not even be called that. So they might not even be making a Brave and the Bold movie. So it may be a completely different movie. So I understand you want to keep your options open. Of course. That's smart.

Of course. Don't just come out and say everything. And then go after the fans and be like, people who are criticizing Matt Reeves are mean. They're being mean. Come on, man. There's a vacuum here and you're not telling the full truth. And people don't know they're being mean because you're not letting them know what the hell's going on behind the scenes of Matt Reeves.

Just this kind of rumored idea of stuff that's going on to one of his children or himself or his wife. We don't know what it is. Everybody's just guessing, speculating. And so we don't know what it is. And so for me, I think there's a little bit where he's playing the political game and he's for himself and he's not like telling us the full truth. Doesn't it kind of have to, though?

Isn't that the tricky part of being the head of this thing? Don't you have to play politics? He doesn't shame anybody. He doesn't step on people. Fahy doesn't call it. Like, Figuke handles it completely differently than fan-wise, you mean? Yeah, fan-wise, yeah, yeah.

Because, I mean, he's saying people are being mean. It's like, people are speculating because they don't know what the hell's going on. And Mike also is not, and for probably better, but Fikegy's not very active on social media. You know, James Gunn is very active in social media. That's my point. There's, look, there's a lot. We've talked about it. There are times when you go, you know, look, he's really involved.

He's really talking to the fans. and that's a good thing. And then at the other times, you're like, yeah, I don't know, because I say this too, and not just because Koi is on the show,

why are you letting all this information out on, on, on threads? Why don't you, you have a D.C. show, let it out there. Have a, have a conversation,

have things that look. We're going to break news. Oh, yeah, no. I'm saying like we have this D. DC show that we're doing. Look at the number. It's nowhere near the platform that show has nowhere near the platform that social media has.

But it could be. Possibly, but you have a, Dude, and you just clip that out, you're bringing attention. Sure, sure. I don't disagree with you in terms of producing angle point of view. You're absolutely right. They should be using that more.

But I guess James figures he has a bigger platform on his own rather than lending his stature to that show to build that show up. Because how much does he make off the guy? I know. Look, you're preacher of the choir. It makes sense. But I think James looks at it. I think James sees himself as a singular entity. right and he is at dc but he is not dc this it was two different things like two different things

figy is marvel he is absolutely marvel gun is still new in this thing when right he's got to grow into it he's got to do this for 17 years then gun is dc right but not at this point i understand what you're saying i get what you're saying and he's and that's that's why i give him that's why i give him leeway because he's like he's really learning on the job and he hasn't even had his first big release yet and the first release that he does have. Speaking of Marvel and DC, and yes, there's precedent, there's other things that have come before. So he's got that

to lean on, but Iron Man did not have this kind of hype going and again, I know there's a lot, I know there's a lot of things going into it. He's got a lot of hype behind it and he's got a lot, a lot of pressure on him. So I do think I think he's doing a lot right. I do. I think he's doing a lot right. I don't

agree with you. I agree. He is. So there just needs to be now, what happens when this movie comes out and then the Batman decisions because they got to lean on these big characters. Right. And that will lead into our second story. But before we do that, I want to make sure that people click on the Clips channel. Make sure you subscribe to the Clips channel because we release all of these stories on the channel.

So make sure you do that. Subscribe there. We're trying to get to 15,000 subscribers. Right now we're at 10. So hopefully jumping, jumping, jumping. Okay. So speaking of James Gunn, speaking of the big three, it's been addressed. And here is that article again from Dark Horizons. And this one is Gunn talks about Batman and Wonder Woman being priorities,

to which everybody said two things. Great. And the second one, no shit. You got to. And this is again, smart. This is what you have to do. As part of the next round of promotion for his Superman film, DC Studios chief, James Gunn has sat down with Rolling Stone and covered a number of topics. Previously reported, David Zazlov has stated to investors that Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Supergirl are the cornerstone characters of the new DC Universe. Superman is ready for cinemas, a film which Gunn says features a Superman who doesn't have planet-cracking level powers.

I didn't want a Superman who could punch planets. He's a little less powerful. We have a Superman that can be beat. Meanwhile, Supergirl is already filmed and currently in post-production. Regarding it, Gunn confirms the film is just going by the shorter Supergirl title now, and he had little involvement with the project once the script was done. What about the other two heroes? A new Wonder Woman hasn't been announced yet,

while two announced Batman films, one DCU, The Brave and the Bold, and one not Matt Reeves, Batman Part 2, seemed to have hit headwinds on their road towards production. Nonetheless, Gunn is working specifically on the Batman, the Brave and the Bold, and Wonder Woman DCU films to get them into production at some point. He said, now, Batman's my biggest issue in all of DC right now personally. And it's not, I'm not writing Batman, but I am working with the writer of Batman and

trying to get it right because he's incredibly important to DC as is Wonder Woman. So outside of the stuff that I'm doing in the projects that are actively going, our two priorities are finishing our Wonder Woman and our Batman scripts. Batman has to have a reason for existing, right? So Batman can't just be, oh, we're making a Batman movie because Batman's the biggest character and all Warner Bros., which he is, but because there's a need for him in the DCU and a need that he's not exactly the same as Matt's Batman. Yet he's not a campy Batman.

I'm not interested in a funny, campy Batman, really. With teeth hitting the screen, you're not interested in a campy Batman? Okay. Hold on. Hold on. So we're dealing with that. I think I have a way in. By the way, I think I really know what it is.

I am just dealing with the writer to make sure that we can make it a reality. Wonder Woman I think is, actually easier for me because there have been so many infant portrayals of Wonder Woman, definitely not in movies, but really anywhere, and there have been of, that there have been a Batman. As for Rees film, Gunn has had it up to here regarding all the speculation about the project's fate. It's not canceled. We don't have a script. That's slow. Let him take his time. Let him do what he's doing. God, people are mean. Let him do his thing, man. Gunn has been very public about not moving forward on a film unless the script is in great shape and finished and says that the stance

led to the death of one such project already. We just killed a project. Everybody wanted to make the movie. It was greenlit, ready to go. The screenplay wasn't ready, and I couldn't do a movie where the screenplay is not good. We have to treat every project as if we're lucky. We don't have the mandate to have a certain amount of movies and TV shows every year. So we're just going to put out everything that we think is of the highest quality.

All right. So, John, the first question I'm going to ask is, do you guys talk about this stuff all the time on Hot Mike? So you've got to know what that project is. Is that Swamp thing? It's probably Sergeant Rock. I would imagine that it's rock. Right. He's not going to say by name, obviously, to spare people's,

to spare the creatives a little embarrassment because he essentially said the script wasn't good. But him saying Clayface is ready to go. They're just, they're doing a rewrite of Clayface. So how great was that script if you're bringing in a veteran screenwriter come in and do a rewrite? So again, it's this thing where he's being political. And I get it. It's smart to play the political game because most people, most of the casuals aren't going to be nitpicking this thing and really dissecting what he's saying. But there are there is there are holes in some of his logic here. And last I checked, didn't DC say they plan to release like seven projects a year? So this idea of not having a mandate is very confusing when you have announcements that they aim to put out like six or seven projects a year recently. So these are these things that you see that he's.

he's as he's done since that opening announcement he's moving the goalposts where it's convenient he's taking stands where it's convenient um but i also think this is who he is and so if you like james gun you don't see anything wrong here but if you are a little more of an analytical person i think you can pick certain things apart that are convenient for his reasoning or narratives you know yeah i go back to the same conversation we probably just had in the last one is that he's he's learning on the job he's he's he's he's got to be he's got to be political in the Matt Reeves thing. He's got to be because I do believe he's got a very good relationship with Matt Reeves.

And I also think that you got to make sure. I mean, Matt Reeves is a brilliant filmmaker. And he said, you know, he's slow right now. They didn't say, we're not doing it. Yeah. But there might come at time if they do decide to not do it, that it's got to be Matt Reeves that says, look, I got to, I'm stepping off this thing.

I can't do it anymore because nobody's going to want to see that movie without Matt Reeves. It's just, you, I agree. I agree. And I also think the, yeah, that's a great point you bring up, Christian. No one's going to want to see without Matt Reeves. But they're going to, and the same thing. But with Muscietti, what they're doing with Braver, though, it's very clear that they're moving him out. Right. And even Muscietti. So you know how it works back there, man. Guys, if you're not aware of this, like there's a lot of egos, a lot of brand saving.

There's a lot of protection. Yeah, right. Protection. Right. Yeah. They'll be like, look, Matt, if you don't mind, can you just say you're going to, you can't break the story? It's not working for you. And you're going to leave the project because you have some things to deal with. And that way it doesn't look like we're bad. We're doing that because, look, we let you do a Batman. I don't mean James got to mean DC Waterbuth.

We let you do a Batman film. We let you do the penguin stuff. So do you mind doing us a solid and giving us a, saving us a little PR headache by saying you step down away from the project. If they do it that way, that's true. I mean, look, here's the thing. after all the stuff that's going down with this thing, as good as penguin is, do I want to see the Batman too?

Of course I do. Yeah, 100%. Of course I want to see that movie. I'm really excited. It's an Elseworld's project in general if they can make it work, right? But the question is, when in regards to, when they're going to do whatever the Brave and the Bold or the Bat, whatever new Batman movie they come out with, when are they going to put it out?

Are they going to put it out close to each other, not close to each other? That's the question. That's the main question. That's what they're going to have to do and figure it out because I think, I mean, if you're a fan of the Batman, who wouldn't want to see part two? It's just a matter of, it's more about politics and everything else to whether or not it's going to happen. So fingers are crossed that it does.

But I still think, you know, like I said, I think it could be confusing for a lot of people. We'll see. We'll see how that works out. But the fact that they're also leaning in on the big three. Yeah. This is how, this is, this is smart. This is what you do. And if Zazlov was saying it because he's like, look, telling the stockholders, yes, you know, those big, the three big people that we have, probably the biggest superheroes in the world?

Because Iron Man was not a big, massive huge superhero to start. It was a balsy move by them. Hulk was a big superhero, I guess, pun, non-intended. And then that movie did decent the second. Right. Captain America was well known. but it wasn't like a gangbusters thing. And everyone was like, oh, great, Thor, another one. Now like, oh my God, Thor, it was Spider-Man.

Spider-Man is the guy. Spider-Man was the one that everybody was also because of the rainy stuff, but in general, Spider-Man. DC has Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, boom, boom. And if you use those correctly, and it's like, it's like you, if you don't have a guarantee that your universe is going to last forever, you don't pussyfoot around it.

And say, oh, you know what we'll do? We'll do Superman first, then like five obscure movies first. And then fingers crossed those do well. Then we'll jump into Batman and Wonder Woman. No, you punched it right in the mouth and go, here they are. Boom, boom, boom. And that's what they didn't do on the EU. They went, they kind of started to do that.

And they went, let's do Superman. Great. Man, Steele, let's do Wonder Woman. Amazing. And now what? Well, they just did Avengers movie. Let's do Batman be Superman. No.

build, build, build. And that seems to be what they're doing right now. Well, possibly. But I think this is what they should have led with in that, in that opening video that James Gunn did. We have got a, we're clear about Superman, we've got Batman Brave and the Bold, and we've got one to one.

All three of those should have gone into production. That's what they should have said. Right off the bat, this is the pillars. Now we're going forward. I don't think they could have right away, John, because of all the, because again, Galgado and Calgedo, you know, all that stuff they were trying. You got to have balls.

Remember, they were still taking meetings. Ben Affleck was taking meetings. And at the time, when they- Until you got it locked down. I just don't see the logic. And the other side of the Marvel thing, the only reason that I was because they didn't have the rights of Spider-Man or X-Men.

Because there's no way they wanted to leave with Iron Man initially, right? Right. And that was before Disney as well. So, right. Yeah, I mean, I get. It's just that to me there's a lot of, you know, he's, oh, oh, a Clayface script. Okay, we'll do that now.

And there's not a clear $20 million. dollars. Yeah, I know, but a clear plan, I would just like stick to the plan and those other things you can start messing around with, but establish the three, the triumvirate first, as you were saying, Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman. Yeah, you got to use your, use your heavy hitters. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Like, if you, if, you know, you got to leave with the fastball. And that's your vision for the future. They're throwing fastballs. And I, yeah. And it's, and I, and they should because, especially. Especially with how well received Superman has been, like the trailer, how, like the tickets. And if it hits and if it does make a billion dollars, you even get close to it. It's like now you're now you're playing with house money.

It's like go for the supergirl's already done. So and Supergirl they're going to what they did. I think that's going to be smarter that one too is that you, you're going to introduce Millie Alcock in that film at some point. Right. And if she pops in that film and you know, oh, where's that movie going? And then that's the follow-up because Superman's going to be so big. I understand the logic of doing Supergirl second.

I really do because it's still based off the same IP. And you're in this movie. So Superman, Supergirl, leading into, okay, and that's why the strategy is there because they said, okay, we are actually leaning in and there's a script for Wonder Woman. Like that came out of nowhere last week. Right, right. So, and I'm telling you, I keep saying it, I'm, AJ Arjona is going to be announced as as, she's going to.

I'm telling you, I have no, I have no inside information on this. I didn't hear any tips. This is, this is just, I have a gut feeling she's going to be the one that is announced. Is this like your gut feeling for the dude from 1923 as Batman or is this a little more of a solid gut? Brendan Scler, I do not think is going to, I think he's perfect for the role. I don't think he's going to be the guy. I mean, well, I hope he is, but I don't, I'm not like convinced. I don't think he's, I don't even know if he knows James Gunner.

When I interviewed Billy Magnuson about, when I interviewed Billy Magnuson about Booster Gold, yeah, he was like, James Gunner has no idea who I am. There's a certain circle. Like, I know, and I was like, just hearing him talk about those, like, yeah, there's some circles he doesn't even know or go in for meetings. And there's certain, you don't matter what the fans are saying in general. But like, Adrian Arjona, she got, she got the end. Well, first of all, she did a movie or did something with James. early on. I think he cast me her first movie.

Right. So it did something with him there. So, and then Jason Mamoa, obviously his girlfriend. So I'm not, and again, I always say it's, as nothing to do with him, hey, give my girlfriend her job. She's fantastic. You know, but he's like, he's. I don't know that. Is Mamoa and Arjona, they're dating? Yeah, at least they were for a while. I don't know they still are, but, but again, I thought they had a chance with AJ Arjona. She's with Jason

Momoa. Sorry, guys. Yeah. Yeah. But either way, I do it. I think she's going to, I think she would be cast. And I think, five, seven, though. So I don't, are they going to go with a statuessque wonder woman? Are they going to go with a smaller one? How tall was Galgadoote?

I think she was six, ten. Six ten. But no, I just, no, I, I think you can get around that. I think you can also put her in platform shoes if you need to. Oh, sure. She's five, ten. So she's, she's my height, five ten. Oh, Galgadootis, okay.

Galgadoots five, ten. Three inches tall. Yeah, I get it. But I think that if you're going to sacrifice anything, you can build it. You can build it with shoes. You know what I mean? Sure. If you needed it.

I saw that. I saw that criticism. People are like, oh, she's only 5'7. It's like, you can build it with shoes. Like, they're with Green Mile. There's a lot of people that, like, you can't believe that there is short as they are. And 5'7 is, is average height for a woman, you know, and above average, I think. My only concern is, is she a draw, man?

That's my only concern. I love Adrienne. Wonder Woman's the draw. David Corrin's sweat wasn't a draw. Well, I know, I know. That's a fair point. But that's James Gunn's Superman, right? So that's who sells it.

With Wonder Woman, I don't know what the approach is. Wonder Woman. Galgado's what did she do? She did a fast five. She wasn't a draw. She was great in that movie. Right, right. No, fair point.

Fair point. But she also had, like, and she was a model. There was a lot of stuff behind her in terms of publicity. And Georgia is going to get nominated for Andor. Sure, but again, that's TV. That's a small screen.

And my concern is, can she bring it on the big screen? And I want to see it. Look, I'm a fan of it. I love Ajorjona. I'm just expressing the other side. Sure. I get it, but I think. You might be right, man.

I think when it comes to those, when it comes to those, yeah. I mean, who was Tom Holland before his Spider-Man? It's like Spider-Man sold that. It's like the, the, those types, the big three that we just talked about, those monumental things sell, that's what sells it. You've got to be good in the role, obviously.

Yeah, right. But it's not a matter of, because I talked about this last week, the movie store, there are certain things the movie store can elevate. And I always use now the example of like Ryan Gosling and Star Wars. Ryan Gosling's not selling out movies or the Fall Guy and other things. He's not, he's not selling things out. But he elevates Star Wars by being in it. Right.

is you go at Star Wars and who's in it Ryan Gosling big so your point is valid there right but it's also it's Wonder Woman who's Wonder Woman who's jr jane i don't know who that is well she's really great and this this this this this this this and then she just is expanding her reach to other people in the same way that like i said no one's gonna know who brandon sconar is if they if they see him it's batman you know it's like that's the whole point now i think that now josh hartnett is someone depending on what age they're they're going to go with on if they do the brave in the bowl i think he's supposed to be older anyway right right so yeah well yes older because he's got his son right exactly yeah just it just depends so i don't think a big name is necessary for those movies i just i just don't okay so i i hear you on superman

batman because we've seen multiple iterations on screen we've only ever had one wonder woman on theatrical screen yeah we've had obviously linda carter who was amazing in the role also latina but i i just wanted wanted to see i want to see someone i think with wonder woman because we haven't seen multiple iterations you want to see someone who is going to really grab the bull by the horns and do a whole interesting new interpretation of wonder woman and i do think the director and writer is going to be a massive part of that sure sure not because we've only seen one wonder i think if there have been multiple wonder women i would agree with you on the wonder woman side of things but i think with because we only have one we need to have someone who's going to excite people to see their version

of it. So we'll see, but we'll see. Yeah. Well, I think that's, that's the beauty of, you look at the, I'll use the Donor, talking in Superman. Yeah. Christopher Reeve was, nobody knew that. Yeah, nobody knew Christopher Reeve. Yeah, absolutely. Of course, we weren't knee deep in the superhero genre. No, we weren't. But we were still, there was still the age of the movie star and what did they do? They stuck them around both Gene Hackman and Marlon Brando. They took care of him. You're right. And didn't even bill them. They didn't even bill it. They built them third. Right. You know, it was, Marlon Brando

Yeah. Christopher Reeve. I mean, sorry, Martin Brando, Gene Hackman, and then Christopher Reeve. So like boom, boom. And so like, it's, they wouldn't do that now with,

with the lead of, but they could put her around. Yeah. Bigger stars inside of that movie. So we shall see. What do you guys make of all of it? The big three is, how important is it?

Will it happen soon? Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. Okay, so one of the things that I do, I'm excited about telling you guys about. I have, well, I did an interview. I was supposed to run it last week, but that whole thing happened with the stream yard. It was a disaster. But now, another day in America is a new movie that's coming out.

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what I like to do, we'll always talk about the big releases that are coming out and the big studio movies that are coming out. But I like to shine the light on the movies that everybody's always asked, where are the original movies, what can I see that's interesting? And that's not just got the big inflated budgets and superheroes and everything, too. And I like to shine the light on that. And today is one of those movies. Another day in America is another thing.

We got a dark comedy, and you know I like my comedy dramas, and that's what this one is. It revolves around ensemble of it's got distinct characters that they each go through a post-pandemic day in American office. Now, what we have today is a chance to talk to both the director and the writer Emilio Morum and one of the stars of the film who plays Scott Miller in the movie, and that's Oliver Trevino.

Ladies and gentlemen, I want to bring them both in. Good. Thanks for having us. Yeah, of course. I'm good, mate. Nice to be on. It's great to have you on. And let me ask you guys real quick. And we'll start with you, Emilio. Tell me about this movie, man.

What was the idea of saying, look, I want to put this thing together. I have this idea. How did it all come to be? I wrote it over like a one week period during the pandemic. And I just wanted to tell a really funny story that had a lot of like early 90s indie DNA, like clerks and like even, you know, even like, stories that kind of language could shock you, but make you laugh and just put them, you know, the camera in front of our society and culture and kind of poke fun at it, but then tell a

meaningful story that, you know, that competes against today's modern day momentary that we get on online social media and podcasts you know yeah and i and i and i love i love that vibe i love that tone of it and it's always and like i said it's always for me i i like discovering projects like this because of everything that i just said in the intro here too but uh oliver talk to me man how did you get involved in this and um how did you first come to hear about and what you said no no no i need to be a part of this yeah um i got introduced to Emilio through another producer friend. We were, you know, doing a project together and he was like, you got to meet this guy. And we connected. And, you know, as soon as I read the script, I think

exactly, you know, what appeals to you is what appealed to me. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's refreshing. You know, we're all bombarded with the big studio stuff, the marvels, the the big budget stuff. And when I read Emilio's writing, it was just so raw and honest and like not holding back. You know, it's kind of one of those scripts that you read and you're laughing because you're also laughing being like, I can't believe he's saying this. And that's what's refreshing for an actor. And, you know, you want to work with writers and directors who give you what's on the page and you can then do what you do. And with Emilio, it's kind of a, you know, every actor that was on the set loved it for that reason. You know, he's an actor's director and an actor's writer as well. So I love the raw honesty. I love that, you know, he's just saying shit that that we're all thinking we all want to say and some of us don't have the balls to say it so there you go and and so

i guess that's the other throwback to amelio here is that is that kind of the benefit of being the you know the writer-director's like hey you know what i want to say this i'm gonna let those guys yeah you know i think the real benefit in the it's it's a three hundred thousand dollar film right i mean which is insane right and uh that's craft services on a marvel movie yeah i just I think it all the time too. It's kind of like, you know, so, but I just had the liberty to do, take risks and be bold and use the power narrative, you know, like, I mean, the reality is you do get this commentary, but you see it in your comment section of a Twitter feed that, like, went haywire. You know what I mean? Right, right.

So, like, I just wanted to kind of encapsulate a lot of the things that we don't see in movies anymore. Like, movies aren't the one, you know, the stories are told everywhere. now, you know, like Christian, you tell stories every day if there are three, three, a podcast. So, you know, so I just kind of wanted to use, you know, that craft to tell this story. And I just didn't want to, I mean, I didn't ever want to say, like, you can't say that. You can't do that. And that's all I'm ever hearing in this business. So, yeah, okay, if the movie's 15, 20 million, I get it.

But when you're making a smaller film, you can just take those risks. And it was great. I say that all the time on the show is that I think that one of the things that, I like when directors and writers and actors are challenged with the smaller budgets because it puts you in this kind of crunch. I mean, you hear about the classic stories, whether it's, you know, Rocky or whatever it is about these movies that they didn't have the luxury of having these big, huge budgets. They had to get creative in order to make things work. And I guess it's a question for both of you. And I start with Oliver, you know, when it comes to working in a $300,000 budget,

it and knowing you could work on a big Marvel movie and you get like the first-class treatment and all these different things, but there's something raw about this and it challenges you creative. I want to talk to you guys both about the creative challenges and does it help you, you think, as a performer and as a writer and as director, to really benefit because you're essentially in a good way handcuffed. Yeah, I mean, Marvel haven't called me up yet, so I haven't got experience on a Marvel movie yet um but i will say that you know the nicest part of this project is when you're making a a movie for that kind of budget is you're forced to engage with each other yeah you know like no one's

hiding in their big trailers no one's you know disappearing to their own craft service area it's kind of like you really develop that relationship with your cast and your crew you're all in it together there's no egos there's no room for egos you know if you've got an ego it's probably going to go wrong on day one um and you're all there for the same reason for the passion of making the field. Because if you weren't there for that passion, you would not be there. No one's in it for the paycheck.

So I think it kind of flushes out the BS of Hollywood a little bit, because it really brings in the people that want to work and the people that are there trying to make stuff that will entertain an audience, you know? And that's what we all hope to do. As far as creatively, I mean, Scotty for me is a, you know, he's bipolar, he's struggling with a breakup. You know, that's easy for me, you know?

That's a tap into that any second. So, you know, just being around good people and human beings and having real conversations off, you know, Richie Costa, who was amazing. I had a lot of scenes with Richie. The best part was is this in between scenes, we just chatting. And then Amelia Rolls and we go back into chatting. Yeah. You know, so there's no, I think you get the authenticity more, for sure, you know.

So yeah, I loved it. Yeah, and I guess the same thing for you, you, Emilio, that question, but then I want to know as we kind of wind down here as far as where people can find the movie, how they can check it out. And I do, before even answer any of that, the cast, besides Oliver, obviously, who is great in the film, you've got a really good supporting cast here, too. I mean, you've got Alexis Knapp starring as Tracy Anderson in the movie, too, pitch perfect, people know we're from, Richard Castro's just mentioned. This cast is very solid, and it's so important in any movie that you do to really find

that ensemble team to make it work. So talk to me about that first. Talk to me about putting this together because this is your baby. You want to bring these characters to life. At what point do you go, yes, yes, yes, that's everybody I need. Because it's like sports. It's a team. You need, you've got to find that team because it doesn't matter if there's one great performance. If there's one great performance in someone's an asshole, then you're like, great, but at what cost? Yeah, you know, I, a lot of everyone in the film in some way or another are a friend or a friend were friends. Oliver put, asked Alexis to be in it and Natasha. I knew Paul and Richie from a movie from 10 years ago.

And you know, what I really thought is interesting too about the film is that there's people in this film that never acted before. Oh, wow. Like never even acted. And so that writer-director dynamic with the actor, it's really more the writer-in-me because I have to kind of, tweak it to their wheelhouse. So I thought that was like an interesting thing where, you know, it's a pretty deep cast. It's a lot of story.

There's a lot of storylines. I think what really benefited is that you have these like kind of like these parallel dovetailing storylines, but no one really worked more than five days. You know what I mean? So it was really easy to get Richie to be like, hey, you know, let me give you a scale. Right, right, right. For five days. But I'll answer this real quickly.

Sure. It has to do with the acting. Yeah. I started interview with Tarantino and he said when he castored reservoir dogs, he said, if I knew if I just had them in a blank wall, I'd be okay. And I felt that at some point. That's great. I wish I had more than a blank wall sometimes.

But like, I just knew that 80% of this was the acting. And if you look at most of the reviews that are already out, everyone kind of really kind of goes towards like the performances are great. Sure. I got lucky and it's a combination of like, you know, luck and, you know, hard work. Well, the film, again, guys, another day in America. And where can they find it, Emilio, if they want to go check this out? Yeah, so it comes out June 17th, and it's across all these platforms that you would normally watch a movie, Amazon, Apple.

I don't even know what it's called anymore. iTunes. Right. And, you know, Google, whatever, and, you know, those kind of. So it's like this digital release. And, you know, it's June 17th. And, you know, we had a small little theatrical before this, but this is the real release so everyone can watch it. Well, I can't thank you guys enough for talking about your movie and let people know about it.

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the smaller films and, and letting people know about them. So I'm glad that we had an opportunity to speak to them. I think you're some muted for some reason. I don't know why. Is that you or me? Apologies. I just, you know, I didn't want you guys to hear anything. Yeah, that's good.

Yeah. And that movie comes out tomorrow. So people check it out. Yeah, I'm a big Alexis Knapp fan. So, you know, I enjoyed her in Pitch Perfect, Project X. and a couple of things. So seeing her being a part of the movie, I think is exciting as well. Okay. Okay. So speaking of other movies that have come out,

other things in general, this, you and I always on Monday, we always talk about the box office. Yeah. And we got some stuff this time around. And let me, let me get to it. We have the new numbers, and they're interesting, John. These numbers are pretty interesting in general.

So here. Here are the numbers. I got to get rid of this stupid thing. I got to get rid of this one. There's always something new. There it is. What is the hell is going on over here? I want to get rid of this.

Thank you very little. Okay. So the box office, the latest weekend, how to train your dragon. Looks like I was right. John, I was right. Yeah.

Lilo and Stitch. Look at that. One, two, How to Train Your Dragon. Lilo and Stitch. families kids are going out to see this one my my for the first time in a bit 13 year old was like hey can you take me and my friend and go see the movie we want to go see how to train your dragon live action was the first time i didn't say do you want to go to the movies i didn't say anything this went and went to the movies and i was like that's interesting so it's very crowded

people are interested in seeing it so how to train your dragon so far john worldwide is almost a 200 million dollars yeah lelo and stitch worldwide There's almost an 850 is that, 858 million. Yeah. The materialist, which getting grave reviews, 15 million worldwide, 12 million domestic. I can't imagine the budget was that big for that movie. So that's probably a win. Mission Impossible, another 10.3.

Still, even though it's made about half a billion dollars, still not going to make its budget back, but still, still, 5 million million. And Ballerina with 9.4, and that's 91 million. I think the budget was just about that, wasn't it? 80. It was 80. Okay, so they still have some work to do to break even with the marketing, but not a complete bomb. What stands out to you?

Well, how to train your dragon? I mean, that was shocking to almost $200 million to see it. And listen, people need to start reckoning with this, right? This contingent of people that are like, no more live action remakes of these animated class I love so much, Hollywood does not care about your feelings when it comes to that. They are making money hand over fist when they do adequate to good to great live action adaptations.

And this was up there with very good to great live action adaptation of an animated film. And sorry about your feelings. They're going to keep doing this because they make a crap ton of money doing these things when they get it right. Yes, there is the snow whites. There are some that don't, but those are ones that are not good. So they don't make money, you know. And so there was enough people.

Obviously, they loved this. Lilo and Stitch. Commulative, well over a billion dollars, both of them over the last few weeks. And certainly this may stop Lilo from getting to a billion, which is ironic, because this thing looks like it's a monster, a juggernaut. A lot of rave reviews. How to Train Dragon? How to Train Dragon?

Yeah. I think that's going to get billions, a billion before Lido and Stitch possible. I mean, it's $200 million so far. It only made $80 million opening weekend domestically. I think Billions is a tough stretch, especially with Ilio coming out and other things coming out. Yeah. Well, we'll see it. It's still going to cut into it.

You know, and you still have more stuff that's coming up pretty soon with kids up. But like I told you, man, like it was, and using Lilo and Stitch as another example, we finally got the little one to watch the original. She loved three times over the weekend. I want to see the live action Lilo and Stitch. I want to see the live action, Leela Stitch. If you are able to get the interest of children and families, you're going to do very, very well. Look at all of the movies that are hitting big this year.

Minecraft, Leelow and Stitch, How to Train Your Dragon. This is how you do it. This is how you do it. And the How to Train Your Dragon is, it's, you have the, this is something doesn't happen often. They had the same director. you know, they bring back Gerard Butler to do this

in general. I mean, you talk about, and talk about Dean de Blas, he's talking about having a good year because he's also part of Lilo and Stitch too. Yes. He's doing all right for himself. I always got good points on the back end and all that stuff.

Yeah. Yeah. So this is, doesn't surprise me at all. And you look at the other numbers, and I think the other one that stands out, though, do it as the, with the materialist.

Yeah, third highest opening for an A24 film. Yeah. So not too, Shabby. The audience score, the cinema score wasn't as strong as the critics score. So I wonder if that will lead to legs or not because there apparently there's a big twist in the movie. I'm seeing it probably later today. There's a big twist in the movie that has pissed off some fans have gone to see it. So some critics of course are mad at the fans for being pissed off about it as if they're not allowed to their opinion. But like this is this is the thing that could affect the box office, I think,

in interesting ways for the material lists. So but still a good opening. you know, Sillian songs out here directing $100 million movie. So she's doing what she does well. It got buzz. That's the thing,

though. It got buzz. And, oh, this is unlikely. This doesn't happen a lot. You froze. Normally that usually happens with Steph.

You're not frozen anymore, but with Steph and never really happens with you. Oh, I have my glasses too. Okay. I don't think I had anything to do with. But, you know,

what I, what I will say is that, um, this movie's got some buzz behind it, though. Like that's where I started hearing about it. Even when I was at the screening, one of those movies last week,

I might have been how to train your dragon. One of the critics that I was talking to was like, hey, did you see the materialist? I was like, no, I haven't. You got to see it. It's really good. So it's starting to get a lot of buzz, which is interesting.

And going back to the conversation, nothing's in a billion yet, right? This year? Yeah, nothing yet. Minecraft is the closest. But I think that's it. I think, yeah, I don't, the only one,

like I said, little stitch, we'll see if it keeps building up. Yeah. And I don't know. The other two that I guess... No American movie has made a billion dollars, but Nejat 2 has $2 billion for God's crazy.

That's crazy. So, yeah, as far as the summer movies and all that, nothing yet. Yeah. But we'll see as July seems to be the potential for that. And then you've got both the two movies we said, you're probably disappointed if you're both Lionsgate and, um,

as it is paramount, right? Uh, for, you know, for Mission Impossible. Because Mission Impossible, it's just too hard.

The movie was too long. And yes, it cost too much money. Um, it was, it was a really, really tough sell to try to make that money back. It's just,

the movie was fine. Yeah. I like the movie a lot, but I understand why people didn't like it. Like, I get it. It's kind of, it's a two,

what, uh, 400 million, dollar film for the hard course. And I think that was the mistake. And no matter what they did in that first hour with the flashbacks, and most people are like, no, I'm not going to go through seven movies flashbacks and be involved in the story.

We were throwing off the rhythm in the first hour. And I heard from a source of mine, I don't know if it's true or not. Like take it with a grand assault. But they're in the studios. They reached out to me and they said from what they're hearing is that Tom Cruise was the who like he told because they messed up the dead reckoning part one tom told the the studio stay the hell away from this he's going to be in charge of the cut how long it's going to be what's going to be what the script is all of this that he took super control of it and that may have been why he exploded on the

set in that famous video because i think it was doing one of the scenes for this particular movie i thought that was covered yeah it's covid related but the tension i mean the stress the frustration in that speech. So if that's true, then this is on Tom. And Tom being like, oh, no, they'll watch a two hour and 45 minute of me because the film is very much kissing Tom or Ethan Hans on the throughout. Yeah, I think that it, I think you make a great point, though, that it really is for the hardcore fans.

Yes. It really is. And I think that maybe it's like maybe they overestimated how many people like are so, like, yeah, I want to know every little thing about it and every little detail in the same way that I did about when Game of Thrones was on weekly, you know, it's like it's not that kind of movie. It blends together. And my biggest problem with this one was the same one that I had with the last one,

is that stunts are fantastic. They're fantastic. That's not the issue. The issues it's not as clever as the previous ones. It's just not as clever. And that's what I like out of the mission muscle. And I saw it with a friend and we both said, fun, but way too long, half an hour too long,

especially when you got that kind of budget, you want to get people in and out of that theater. move move to make that money and the same thing like you know unless and and talk about previous installments ballerina wasn't as detailed as the it should have been more detailed like the first john wick movies if you're going to go because john wick four earned the video game oh it earned it it it got into a place ballerina didn't earn that yet no and so i think she's great i think she's a star but that movie you know they'll probably wind up getting close to breaking even maybe losing a little bit of money on it but they'll probably make it back with digital limiting two won't be a

complete loss um but that's the last we'll see of the ballerine now an ad armas is five six okay adjoin is five seven so would you buy an ad armas as a wonder woman platform shows yes i would i think the the thing with with thing with an ad armas to the 70s and shit. I know, but the thing with Anna DeArmis is that, you know, she's just overused right now. I think that is where you would want someone like that. I think that you,

I think you got to let someone who's on the cusp, on the cusp of superstardom, that's the role to get them to the next level. And I think that's where she's at. So what do you guys make of the box office, man? Are you agreeing with what we're saying here? Do you, do you see any of those movies? Do you think, hey,

I'm a studio. I'm making a family movie because that's what's that's what's that's kicking ace right now. But we're going to also see we're going to see Pixar can get back on forum. John, you going to see uh, I'llio tonight? Not tonight. No, I'm seeing F1 tonight 28 years later tomorrow and then I Leo on Wednesday. So that's my three, first three days. Yeah, I wish I could have done that. Um, I did get it like there's two things. I got invited to a screening of F1 on Saturday, but it was a friend's birthday. Then I got a screening of of F1 tonight, but I want to see Elio, and it's going to be more.

There's going to be more screenings of F1. So I was like, okay, I'm going to wait, but I do want to see Eilio. F1's one of my most anticipated movies the year. Yeah, that's why, me too. That's why I'm going tonight, and I can wait until Wednesday for Eelio. If I had a Wednesday option, I would have done it. I don't know if I did, but,

but they're being very kind down here. They're buying out certain for screenings. So they're giving it to us as critics to watch. So I'm looking for. forward to it. Okay. So yeah, I want to see what everybody says. The other thing we got to talk about right now. So let everybody know, John's starting a week off good here. 38 questions right now. Last week, you know, we're to try, can John, let's see, can you get John the win this week?

Capes and Cal has come off of three in a row. They're trying for the record this week. Roxy had three in a row previously, so they're tied. They're going for their fourth, but can John knock them off their perch here today? We shall see. But before we get to the, We should try to experiment. We should have them start the week and then me do the Friday and then we'll see what the hell is up. You know what? Bring it. I'll tell you what. How about this? But this is not, this is not fair to you. Do you know when I would do that? The Superman. That's what you would do. Yeah. Yeah. Cheating. That's cheating. That's not fair. It's like the Superman. I actually would want to move it on Monday, put capes and calls on Monday. Have you do Friday. But we shall see. We've got to talk about this. Oh, yeah. I did a reaction with it this morning. Same. Same.

A Naked Gun, the new trailer came out following yesterday's poster, Paramount Pictures, has premiered the full-length trailer for its part reboot, part revival of the Naked Gun franchise. The new comedy will see Liam Neeson star in the film at Detective Frank Drebin and Paul Walter Houser as his partner, Ed, the pair playing the sons of Leslie Nielsen and George Kennedy's characters who just happened to have the same names. Also on board are Pamela Anderson as Fem Vital Beth, who seeks justice for her brother's murder, Kevin Duran, and Danny Houston as the villains.

CCH Pounder as the police chief along with Cody Rhodes, Lisa Kashi, and Eddie you in supporting roles. Chip and Dale, I don't want that. I don't even do with that. So let's just talk about this. Okay. I fucking love this trailer so much. I loved this trailer because, dude, it was, you know,

because what I said in the reaction was when they announced it initially, they're doing, without knowing anybody that's in it, the naked gun remake. I'm like, come on, right? First, then you hear naked gun, with Liam Neeson. You go, okay, maybe, right? Then you see the teaser trailer and go,

oh, it's not a remake. It's a reboot. He's the son. And that teaser got everybody curious, going, what, what's this? And are they going to, I guess Seth MacFarlane is writing it, right? Not directing.

Producing. But I don't know, I don't know if you wrote it, but go ahead. Yeah. So then, you know, even with that, you're like, okay, are they going to just go like, Ted Humor? Like, what is, what is this going to be? Are they going to actually do an Oman?

and make it feel like naked gun oh boy did this feel like naked gun when he's like take a chair just takes the chair and drags it out of the room and then the the what is it the what you went to went to jail for what's the joke the um oh my god uh not man's a man's laughter man's laughter stuff the the names the pamela anderson stuff that it was like they when they show the silhouette, you know, the sex stuff and you're, it,

it was such a throwback to the Priscilla Presley, Beaver thing and all that. It was such a great feeling. I'm like, wait a minute here. This could be the, not only the revival of,

you know, spoof movies, which we haven't had in a long time, or a good one in a while. This could be the revival of people going to the theater to see comedies. I'll throw another one in there. This could be another.

another iteration to continue the Liam Neeson startup. Just like Robert De Nierre comedies, right? With Meet the Parents, here comes Liam Neeson to pivot towards comedies. And people forget, because some of you aren't old enough, Leslie Nilsson was a serious, dramatic actor. It was the naked gun TV show and

movies that people may think of him as a comedian. So, yeah, it's a nice move for Liam, I think, overall. I agree. And he's, well, he is, I mean, Look, he was funny in that, I don't like that movie, but he was good in the movie, the, the, wild, the West, what's that movie? Oh, many ways to die in the West. Yes. Undresne McFarland.

Yeah. Right. He was also good. He was also, I mean, very good in the, in the Lego movie. Yes. Oh, my God. It's back. Yeah.

He's, he's, you can tell. He's got, he's got chops. Yeah. He's got the chops to do it. So I am, I'm so excited to Paul Walter Houser, another one that I'm excited to see how he's, he's going to do it. I thought the jokes just landed. I'm so excited for this movie. I can't.

I just want to laugh for the much people in the theater. I haven't seen that until long. The only thing that I'm worried about is that they gave away too much in the trailer. Oh, I don't know, man. I don't even know what it's about Payman is his brother's shore. No, no, no. No, no. I'm just the jokes.

I mean, all the jokes. I'm just some of the jokes. No, no. I'm hoping, like, what I don't want to do is leave the theater and going, oh, they gave away all the best jokes. I want to go, they showed the worst jokes or the jokes that didn't even hit. That's what I want to say.

The coffee bit had me on the ground where it sounds, it looks like he's driving the car and giving the coffee. And he shoots up and he shoots through the windshield. And then hilarious. Making out of the EV chargers causing a prison break. Jesus. Oh, he's got to take a dump and he's shooting at the people out of the way.

I was like, come on. We've all been there. We've all been there. Me up for that movie. I can't wait. I'm so pumped for that movie. I cannot wait. I think it looks like that.

Anyway, thoughts on the trailer guys what do you think do you like it do you not like it do you want to see it do you want to check it out put your thoughts in there let us know all right so we're going to start with some questions here john so before we do it and what's going on in the channel my man hey man it's the outlaw nation guess what we're doing a surprise episode of the hot bike tonight jeff and i are going to go through line by line that james gun article on rolling stone and talk and give our thoughts specifically on the things that he brought up you know we did a good job it here with Christian Harlow, but you know, Jeff's got some crazy points of view. So let's see

what Jeff has to say about. That'll be later on today at 4 p.m. PT. Then the geek buddies twice this week. So you get two hot mic shows, two geek buddies. Maybe we'll sneak in a Jedi way reactions and Spill the Tequila tomorrow and I mean Winston A and of course my out of theater reactions for the movies I just mentioned F1 28 years later. And Elio, it's all on the outlaw nation that will be changing in July very soon to another name. But come and join us for now. All right. Thanks. Thanks, Chris. Um, okay. Let's start with this first one here. Al Rensha.

I just watched the naked gun trailer. I haven't laughed like that for a god many a while. It was so funny and I love that. I'm in. Definitely will watch it. 100%. I said, that was for me.

I was just like, I'm in. I can't wait. When is it? When's it? It was July. August 1st. August 1st. Perfect.

Perfect. After all the big, yeah, movies come out. Come down. Yeah. Good dessert. Good dessert.

Yeah. Yeah, that's, oh, it's very smart move for that movie. Avi Malik. I hope you guys had a great weekend. Christian, what's next? Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter reactions. Any chance of Stranger Things reaction leading up season five?

The chances of stranger things are probably slim just because of the time commitment. So many seasons. It's just so many seasons and so many long episodes. I just watched it with my daughter recently. And I don't know if Sam has seen it or not, but I have, Sam's just, I only have her for like two or three times during the week. So right now we're going to be, I was just doing the calculation on it. We're going to be done. with the MCU by like the first week in July.

If she gets in here the amount of times I think she's going to, first or second week of July, we're going to be done with everything. So, and it might get stretched to one more week because I think we're going to get the screeners for Ironheart. So I might actually, she might be caught up so she can actually react to that.

Well, yeah. But after that, I think we're going to go to Lord of the Rings first. Then we're going to do a couple Nolan movies. then we're going to jump to the X-Men movies. So that's where we're going to, she's going to be probably taken up for the rest of the year for that.

She wants to re-watch Deadpole Wolverine again, but I was like, well, you should watch all the X-Men movies before you do that. So we might do a re-watch of Deadpool. And then Deadpool 1 and 2, maybe, or no. No, we did 1 and 2. We've done all three of them. But when she saw Deadpool and Wolverine, she had never seen an X-Men movie. She had never seen an MCU movie.

Oh, why. Yeah, we want to kind of revisit it again afterwards and see now that she knows all the references. I might even, I don't know yet, I might, I don't know how to do the, the Trank one, but I might do the two Tim story, fantastic four movies. Oh, God. I just recently watched those for a podcast. You have been awful, right? Avi. What's up, John?

Love the geek buddies. It's insightful and funny. Thank you, Abby. Appreciate that. Thank you for watching. Connor Mullis. Gentlemen, thoughts on brooms with wooden handles. I dig them. I dig them. Not bad. I don't know what the meaning is.

Connor is, Connor is throwing out the best stuff ever, Alaska. You'll get, we'll get a handful of this, this episode. I'm down with brooms and wooden hand. Yes, yes. Connor also says, also, what is your favorite brand of paper towel? I think Charmin, right? The one I can afford, Costco, the Kirkland. That's my favorite. Roker. Would you rather be a horse or a bear? A bear. I don't like to be ridden by anybody. There you go. Mike Joyce. What was the last good spoof movie?

Scary movie? That's the one that comes to mind. That's the one that comes to mind. But you mean the franchise or the first one? You've got to be specific, Mike. Come on. The first one. Send in 10 more questions to verify.

I don't know. I don't know what's the next one. I don't know what the last one is that I can really think of it. My favorites, airplanes are my favorite of all time, the naked gun, and then hot shots. Oh, yeah. Hot shots is great.

But I love hot shots the most because I think that out of all the performances in every spoof movie, Lloyd Bridges has the best in hot shots. Yeah. He's so good in hotshots. He steals that movie. When he's out hanging upside down. Dude.

What I wouldn't give to be 20 years younger and a woman. Absolutely. He's the best. Joe Hendo TV. Initially, I want a Robert Pattinson Batman in the DCU, but it wouldn't work seeing the tone of Superman. Well, I mean, look, you can't say that, though. And I'll tell you why you can't say that.

Go ahead. because look at the tone of, because I was saying that also, and I've kind of changed my tune on that because of what I've seen in Superman. I've seen, you see that silly haircut, that's comic accurate of Guy Gardner and how goofy he looks, right? Now he fits in the world of peacemaker, but does that green lantern, does that type of lantern fit into the world of lanterns, which they're pitching as a true detective type story?

Clearly, he's involved in it or is part of the world there. Right. So you can connect it if it's tone-wise. You just have to figure out a clever way to do it. Yeah, I'm with you on this. I've been changing my mind because initially I was like, no, you got to keep a consistent tone. But the thing is, for those of us who read convicts, we know, I don't go to a Batman comic for a Superman story. I don't go to a Superman comic for a Batman story, right? Superman's supposed to be more hopeful, more up, metropolis. There's a different energy, right? So when I pick up a Batman comic, I don't want Metropolis in the Batman comic. That's a darker thing. So you can have different tones throughout.

When you bring them together, then it's going to be interesting to see how you marry those tones. But it doesn't mean that you can't have these different tones within the universe. I mean, Guardians of the Galaxy is not Captain America movies. I mean, there's two different things when you look at Marvel. So you can make it work. It's just bringing them together. You've got to have the right director who can marry the tones and make it work. So it's not going to be easy.

but certainly you can. 46 so far, John, let's see what we can do. 46. Jay Anderson, both circus and Pattinson have both recently said that they have read the Batman 2 script, and they've loved it. Gunn says there is no script. Who's lying? Now, did Gunn say that there is no script?

He says the script's not finished or hasn't got a script. So maybe he got the same script that they did. He just hasn't got an updated script. That's poor. Or this may shock some of you. Sometimes actors lie just to promote a thing. So I'm just going to throw it out there. Both circus and Patins.

Or they've gotten or they've got no. Pattson said he knows where they're going now and he's excited about it. Circus is the one who's read some stuff. So I think maybe James has sent them maybe the sections that they're in in the movie. And they've read those sections. If anything, not gone maybe. Sorry, Matt Reeves has sent it to them. I'd like to see the actual quotes.

Yeah, because no way they're not going to give gun the script, but they're going to give everybody else the script. That doesn't make any sense. all right uh go pal can't stick around today but support thank you go pal at corn emperor support for roca tequila geek buddies hot mic thank you corn yeah man well brother uh all right so again 47 writer jo hendo tv speaking of batman it's been 20 years since batman begins came out that's nuts i remember seeing that at warner brothers when i was i was working there at the time oh wow nice um some people believe this is the best batman movie and i i can't go with those people elis loves that i think ellis

would say that. I think it's great. Yeah, I think you're looking forward to watching it, but Sam, I don't think he's ever seen it. So I'm looking forward to seeing that with her, again, because it's great. It's a great movie. But if I'm going to rank the Nolan trilogy, I'm going, I'm going two, one, three. Yeah, for me, Katie kills a little bit of the movie. I'm not the biggest Katie Holmes fan in that film, right?

So I think Maggie's a better person in Dark Night than Maggie, than, um, Katie isn't the first one. That's the only negative I have about that movie because I like that. An interesting cast. He's usually interesting. Armada, what was the name Christian gave Mark Ellis during the comedy story? Something Moroni. It wasn't during the comedy. Well, I guess it was during the comedy. It was the character he played on my, my pilot. We did a pilot called Grasping of Strauss, which Ken Napsock found the full pilot. It's me, Eliza Slesinger. Wow. Serena Vincent, Yada Martinez is in it also from The Tick and everything. So we, we, Ken found the video and he's going to get it digitized.

And I'm considering putting it on the channel. You should do a reaction to it with people who haven't seen it. I know. Maybe, maybe do a reaction to it on like membership of actually just let the whole pilot live. Because it's going to get, it's going to get copyright because of music and stuff. Oh, right. Fair point. But I don't need to monetize it.

I can just, I just want people to see it because we're doing it's not. But anyway, Mark's character, his name was Sean Moroni. And at the time, I just started really hanging out with Mark at that time. This was like that we shot that maybe seven years before Mark and I even did a review, seven years, seven months before Mark and I even did a review together on current TV. Like we were friends from the comedy store and I had like a role that I was like, oh, he's like, if I knew Mark the way I knew him now, I would have given him a much better part. The worst thing that happened to me in that whole thing that I,

It still breaks my heart to this day. We shot at this place. Do you remember where the Acme Comedy Theater was on La Brea? Oh, yeah, totally. So right next door there was room five, which the same guy owned it, who owned Acme. He let us rent out the, we used it to shoot the comedy club and everything. So we shot there for like, it was like two or three days, I think it was. And on the last day, it was me, Eliza, Mark, a couple of people walking out.

and we had wrapped at like seven in the morning, something, something, maybe you know, a little later. And as we're walking out, I hadn't seen him in quite a bit at this time. Here comes Brett Sheridan.

Oh! I hadn't seen Brett in forever. And Brett's like, hey, what are you doing? And I'm like, oh my God, how did I not write Brett apart?

Nice. And I just hadn't seen him in so long. And now I see my, now it's like he'd be in anything that I do, but I hadn't seen him. And I told, and when I told him, I felt,

like I took one of my kids to Disneyland and left the other one at home. You know what I mean? Like he was, oh, oh, all right. And I'm like, I felt terrible because he's great. I always say Brett had the confidence of, you know, Andrew Santino. We'd be living in Brett's mansion right now. We've been doing. But I have to next, we're doing some stuff and, and Brett will be involved for sure. Anyway, Derek Johnson coming in with some support. support 50-1 so far. Corn Emperor. Pope Battenson isn't the DCU bats.

Someone new. Look, at this point, if they can make both of them work, just make it work. Yeah. Derek Johnson, is going ever going to just be quiet and let the work speak for itself? Feels like he's trying to justify every decision. Why? Go ahead, John. It's because he, look, he has a healthy ego.

Look at that photo on the Rolling Stone. Do you catch Kevin Feigy lying down in a black and white photo? looking at you, staring at you intently. Gun has a healthy ego about himself. And look, he's got a beautiful wife. He's got a successful career. I would have a healthy ego about myself as well. So he wants to talk about this stuff,

and he wants to clarify things when people are going wrong. To his credit, when he parachutes in, he picks the right comments to parachute in 99% of the time. And so for whatever our issues are with him showing up too much, and I'm in that camp, Derek, he does pick the right comments to highlight to address the things he wants to get out there so in that way he is smart at what he's doing but i agree the more he talks the more you can criticize him or pick things apart you know he follows it up and says i need a smooth hand on the wheel of dc gun feels to me like he's got to fight every bad report bad press

commentators youtube sites he feels immature for the long-term leadership i want dc to succeed i understand the sentiment but money speaks Yeah. Money speaks. And so if his overall thing, and he's learning on the job there, learning on the job, if he winds up getting a huge win on his first one, as a DC fan, you should go, all right, look, the movie was good. Yeah. Yeah. It's just his style. And if his style works to lead to money, then Billy Martin, you have to do it. You have to do it. Billy Martin.

And it means like different coaches. Like there's somebody like, why is he yelling at the yompson, kicking the things? Like he's winning. He's winning. Is it funny we don't have coaches like that anymore in baseball? We don't have any of these people. Do you Panella, Tonya, those were. Dude, I watched a clip with George Brett.

Oh, Lord. He talked about when he got into that fight with Greg Nettles. Yes. And he was talking about it. He's like, they, yeah, they get, they were friends. Yes. He slides in and Nettles kicks him. and then Brett goes up and punches him in the face.

God, I remember this big brawl, and who do you think got thrown out at the game? Craig Nettles. Neither. Neither one of them got thrown out of the game. Please, go watch old 80s NBA. Kurt Reagan is literally assaulted. I saw a guy get thrown out of a game recently for going to,

the umpire was going to give him a ball. Yes. And instead, he didn't know he was doing it. And the catcher pulled the glove back, and the umpire felt stupid. So he threw him out of the game. That's what happens now in baseball and other sports. It's transferred over and everything.

I want us to be tough and respect mental health. Can't we find that middle where we are tough and respect mental health? It's okay. It's possible. I am too fly cam. I really don't understand the constant criticism of gun. His movie is still a month away. He's engaging and answering questions from fans.

What's the issue? For me, my only thing with him is, look, I don't think, like in the beginning what I mentioned, and I still stand by this, I don't think you do this on threads. If you're building, if you're the one that's helping produce these shows, you've got a show that you can run it on. And you like build your show,

release these pieces. And then, John, to answer your question, by the way, about, because his platform, right?

Well, again, guess what? Say, hey, listen, guys, I just talked about this on the DC show.

I need a, I need a short. I'm going to put it on my, on my account. And you release the footage on your account. Sure. and that's how you get more people watching the show. He should know that.

I mean, that's, that's my, that's my criticism. And as far as what he's doing, uh, as DC head, I think he's doing good. I think he's doing a great job. And I think Superman looks great. Um, like I said, I, I want to see how it's balanced out when I see the movie. The guy knows how to balance emotion and humor. He loves his jokes.

The question is, is it going to be Guardians three? Is it going to be Guardians two? I hope it's going to be Guardians three. I mean, those teeth against the screen. But Ed Harrell had a great point here, John. And this is what I hope it is. Okay. He said this last week.

Okay. Because I said the same thing about the teeth hitting the thing. And he said, well, what if? Who said that? Ed Harrell. Elth Hare. Okay. And he said, what if it's a news camera that's following the round recording this?

And it's hitting the news drum. Yeah. I love that I would love. That'd be great. If it hits the, if it's just, if it's breaking that wall and showing you that it's like, oh, this is a movie. I don't like that. at all. I just were watching Shee Hulk right now.

We're about to get to the finale and I want to put my head through the table. Did you not twerk? Did you not twerk? I was what we, so Sam and I went through. The only reason we're watching it is because I know Shee Hulk is going to wind up being in secret. Oh, 100%. Right. One hundred percent. So I'm like, okay, I got to get, if we're going to get there, I got to get her, you know, equated this to see what, what's going to happen.

And yeah, we're almost done with that. And then we're jumping out. And then thank God we got three movies. And then we got Loki season two, then the marvels. And then after that is Captain America and then Thunderbolts. And then we're caught up. Wow. Yeah.

Already. Yeah. So we'll see. All right. Jay. Have you done the Guardians Galaxy holiday? You're going to do Guardians. We're not going to do.

We're not going to do wearable. but where will where it's that doesn't what does that connect to it doesn't really connect to anything i think that when i'll do that with her is um probably closer to hollinois i was gonna say yeah you got to for hollinois i'll do for hollinois i'll do for hollinois but not but not it's not necessary now i want to move her off of the marvel stuff eventually i don't want to add to people the other thing it's like daredevil the netflix series people really want to watch that i'm like that that'll be the end of the it will be they're doing that to the end of the year it's like 13 episodes on for it for five seasons if you look at the Disney Plus stuff.

That's true. Yeah, it'll be forever. Jay Anderson, what excite you most about the Superman film? The emotional story of Clark and Lois and watching what Lex Luthor is going to do. That's what I've liked the most about the trailers. I think that it's a new. See, unlike people who are hate Snyder's Superman because I love Man of Steel. I like directors who take a chance with their vision of Superman, right?

And I think James has taken a chance. What you read earlier at the beginning of the show, he doesn't want a Superman that looks all-worldy and can punch planets. He wants a vulnerable Superman. I like that. So that excites me to see what that Superman is like in the construct of the movie he's creating. So yeah, Lois is fine. That's all good.

Lex looks awesome. Nicholas did a great job in last trial. But I want to see what Cornswet can do with this. And I'm excited to see James Gunn's points of view on this Superman. If it works. 54. questions at the moment. Thank you.

And you guys keep us going and get John to a bigger number that he can defeat the Capes and Cal's guys this week. Let's see it. Armada, Xbox game passes goaded. New Samsung's TVs can stream Xbox games without download. Works very surprisingly too. Oh, interesting. That's cool.

Yeah, that's pretty great. I've been making my way through Ghost of Tsushima finally. About a year and a half. I love it. People say it almost come. I love it. Act three. I love it.

Love it. Connor Mollis. driving the forklift holding. It's killing me, man. He's hilarious. Buster Barnes, someone asked Gunn yesterday if he liked 1923 and Brandon Skunar and he said, yes, didn't have to respond to that, just saying. True.

Oh, well, he also likes to, you know, he likes to. You know, that's one of things I do like what he does. I like how he likes to play with the social stuff, you know, and, and I wonder, you know, I wonder who he's looking at because we don't know what version of Batman he's going with. That's true. We just don't know. Connor also says, don't worry.

I paused driving the forklift to type. Oh, good. I was wondering. Buster Barnes. Arjona in three to four inch boots and movie magic is fine. I'm not sure about the draw comment. Who else would you cast? Who's a draw?

One of the people on the spot. I don't know. One of the people who was rumored, John, was, what's her face? Oh, my God. How do I blank on her name? I Gonzalez. No, Alexandria, Diderio. Oh, Dadario.

Does she have star, power? I mean, again, White Lotus, true detective, you know what I'm saying? I know she was in Baywatch, but that was a bomb. It was. And she was in the Percy Jackson. I think they, and I think DeDario is, now I want to make sure I say this correctly because I don't want people to misinterpret this. I think they want someone who is younger. Like, Didario is almost 40. No, she's 39. She's 39. Wow. They want someone who is probably, probably in their early 20s.

Now, it doesn't mean that women who are in their 40s should work in Hollywood, of course, they're going to work, book everything. How long are you going to be locked in for? That's the question. Yeah, and that's the thing at the end. And how much can you handle physical? Yeah.

And what's, what's our show in? 32? She is 32, yes. Yeah, I think they're, I mean, that's what I'm saying. Armada, tired of all these live action remakes with direct sequels from the past. Why can't we get how to pimp ride my dragon with exhibit? Please, sign me up. Let's do it.

What about cribs? Yeah. Mike Joyce, you look like you're in pain during your Thor 4 reaction. I was like, we just did Thor Love and Thunder and I was, you know what even makes me more upset about it is the fact that there's a good movie in there somewhere. Oh, of course. Somewhere, went a little too far the other way.

Oh, man, Christian Bell is in a completely different movie and that's the movie they should have made. They should have made the movie that he was in. He's terrifying looking in the movie, by the way. Yeah. The story is solid. And he's running around opposite of Saturday Night Live character. That's what saves the movie to me is that he's so damn good in it.

And there's real pain going on with what he's experiencing. But yeah, the movie messed up because, again, as I said, last time, they didn't dial into the seriousness because they wanted to keep it all yuck, yuck. And if they had dialed into the seriousness and balanced the humor, that film would have been fantastic. Fantastic. Derek Johnson, I'm a diehard D.C. fan. I need D.C. to succeed. I want a true flash movie. He's the very heartbeat of the Justice League.

I need steady, calm leadership. That's all I'm asking. from there would be in gun and Derek I said this to you because I know you've been and you've been obviously very level-headed and everything that you've been saying but like this is what I said to you you got to wait until Superman comes out and I'm sure we're going to have that discussion when it comes out but like you got to wait before you can question the leadership you got to see what they what they put forth on screen because then you know where they're going yeah yeah what about barbaro I mean barbaro is she's another rumored one too from as she she's been worried all that was my choice

I like her too, but she doesn't have more star power than Andrea Arsona just from the, from the, from the, the freaking Bob Dylan movie. Top Gunn, the movie. Top Gunn. She was in that. I totally forgot she was even in Top Gun. Everkill. But, again, if you ask, if you ask more people, more, and I don't think either one of them is a household name, but if you did, if you did a question around like a block going, okay, those names, most people are not going to either name. But if you start to. Yes, agree. If you started to say, well, She was in this. She was in that. She was in this. I feel more people would know the stuff that Adrian Arjona is in than, but although Top Gun Maverick is a good.

That's true. If once you say Top Gun Maverick, people are probably going to know who you're talking about. She's the girl in that. Which one? She's the one, she was the one pilot that's a female. Yeah, the female pilot. They're like, oh, okay. Yeah, I think I remember her.

But she's, she's great. She's a star. I think she, as far as talent goes, I wouldn't be opposed to her being cast either. I just, there's something, there's just something that. a Jonah has. I don't disagree with you, by the way. You know what I first saw it? You know what I saw first? First saw it was freaking Morbius. Oh, yeah, Morbius. That piece of crap. That I remember seeing that movie. That was the first time I went, who was that? Yeah. Like, what is she doing in this movie?

She's great. And then ever since then, I was like, oh, yeah, she's phenomenal. Derek Johnson's definitely going to see that new Jurassic Park. That movie is going to make so much money. When are those screenings coming? I have probably pretty soon. Probably pretty soon. Because universal screening, there are other stuff right now. I'm dreading the end of June, right? Because we're going to get those screenings for all these July films. Yeah, it's going to be a lot nervous. Julius Wyatt, is it weird that I miss American football already?

It'll be here before you know it. And that's not weird. I've been counting down the days. Right around the corner. That in Premier League, come on. Yeah, it's right around the corner. 58 so far. Thank you.

Can you get John to 100 today? That is the question. Okay. I am two-fly cam. Tom Hardy 5-8. Is he really 5-8? Played Bain. Come on.

It's not, it's a different situation. But in the comics, Bain's supposed to be huge. Right. But this is more like realistic, right? So he was doing a ground-based,

realistic version of Bain. He wasn't going to do the muscle-bound, massive thing that you saw in like, Joel Schumacher's Batman and Robin. So it's a different thing. Adrian J-R-Juna was like 5-2, right? If she was like 5-2, I'd be like,

No, no, that's tough. You can't, you can't shoe that one up. Like, again, I think Cynthia Evo is a very, very talented actor. She's very tiny. I don't want to see her playing in storm. I won't buy it. I won't believe it. Okay.

But, and she's got star power now. If you think Bain is the same as Wonder Woman, you need your head examined. They're not the same characters. There's different expectations. Jay Anderson. If Gunn is going to be vocal on social media, he should be taking responsibility for both failure and success and not just a control the narrative. that is correct preached on go ahead that is correct say you mess some stuff up say you got it wrong say

you had some missteps there's nothing wrong with that no you want to you want to come on and kiss your butt and be you know indulge your ego i got no problem with that it's hollywood everybody does it this is what we expect black and white moody photos for a rolling stone store fine fine however you also have to be honest and say hey you know what we announced these things we messed up. We thought we had something. We missed up. I think people would respect that. I think people would respect that. We all make mistakes. We all missed that.

And he's learning on the job, as you said, people give you more grace. Yeah. And he very much did that. Again, he's only been on the job for two years. He's only two years. Give him a break. He hasn't even had a movie come out. I mean, come on. TV shows, cartoons. No movie.

Derek Johnson, has anyone else seen these hair system ads on YouTube? You lost that much hair. It's time to just let go. I don't know anymore. When it comes to like the kind of science and stuff that they're coming out with now, too, I feel like, I feel like Joe Rogan's going to have a mullet soon.

You know, that kind of stuff. You know what I mean? It's people, Matt Sarah could have a mullet soon because of the way that this is the kind of science that people have. Yeah. It's crazy. We should take an answer to discuss who is the best bald head in the, like, was the best celebrity with a bald head

Rogan's got quite a cranium he does inside Dana White's another one yeah Dana and Matt those three guys Matt Sarah Dana White and then and Rogan all three of them like they all get mistaken for each other all the time Couture's got a massive head

dude dude Rania Couture is a massive dude yes I know I know so listen I went when I was because I you know you know I got really into you'll see when the Ultimate Fighter season one I remember that. So when I was working at Silver,

it's when UFC that really started to pop. Right. And they started taking general meetings with people. And they took a general meeting with Randy Gautour. And he couldn't find the office. He got lost. He started walking and you're like, where is this guy? And I look out.

I go, oh, I see him. I see him. They go, go get him. So I walk out to get him. I felt like I was looking at a building. Yeah. I couldn't believe how big he was.

Because, you know, you put him next to like Brock Lesnar. and he looks tiny. Right, right. But like, he is a big freaking dude. Yeah, I've told you. Like, I did a movie with his girlfriend. Oh, okay. And he's huge.

They played an emperl's fool joke on me because I was doing a kissing scene with her. That's amazing. And he called on the phone and wanted to talk to you. Yeah, he called me on the phone. And he started being like, I heard you got a little hansy with my girlfriend during this scene. And my ball is liquefied and poured down my leg. That's the best I was scared before. And then he pulled the April Fool.

And he did it. He put me on speaker because he wanted to make sure his girlfriend was there. And then at the end, as I'm like, sir, I would never, Mr. Couture, I would, I'm just doing an act. And he goes, April Fools. And I just, I f-ing lost it. I was so scared. And then I met him. He enveloped my hands with his. Dude, I couldn't believe. You're very good guy. Matthew. Julius Wyatt, that how to train your dragon music still gives me chills. Yeah. Like materialist, although Dakota held it back from me loving it. Pedro and Chris had more chemistry. I heard she was pretty good at it. Did Patreon, Chris, have more chemistry.

Interesting. Yeah, Dakota, I'm always hot and cold with Dakota. Like, I loved her and peanut butter Falcon, but I didn't, I don't like her, like, she's terrible in SNL, except for the, please don't destroy a sketch. But like, it depends on the movie. Okay. Yeah, I just don't always.

I like it. I like. I know. Derek Johnson. I love them tall, skinny ladies. Go ahead. She's good. Derek Johnson, how's everybody holding this Monday before 23? Hey, new great depression. the lawyer before you get your passport of the new military wow you're coming in we're coming in with something new here Derek i'll just you know i'm gonna i'm gonna change the subject and say john let you see my new shirt yeah carrying cross nice and it's great i did christian look guys you can see the sides

of the chair christian is doing some real work there in the morning's working out getting in shape look it's get toit your body's toit dude and i was like yeah because even this morning i was like because i wanted to support i bought i went i bought i sent him a picture this morning and he was he was excited that I got. Thanks, brother. He's a, he's a great, yeah, great dude.

I really like him a lot. Okay, so no, we can't answer that one. Derek, come on, man. But Derek follows it up and says, gift to 10 memberships.

Thank you. Wow. Derek, Derek's goal is to try to get everybody in the chat as a member. Wow. So like, we have a lot, and great stuff right now,

the entire, oh, John, did you see this? I'm going to show you this. Watch this, guys. I get, if I, do I have it?

Oh, I might not have it on here. Maybe I do. Oh, poops. Are you doing blueballing me? You're teasing me? No, I thought I had it. Oh, no, I have it. Here, John, watch us. In a world. No, I'm not going to do that. But I'm excited. I'm excited. It's been a while. We've been working on this one. One of our amazing members, patrons,

artist, extraordinary wicked art, has been working on this for a long time. And that is the capes and cow's comic book. here guys the whole thing is here now if you are a member or your patron you have access to this obviously but there's a little bit more to this now what we're going to be doing is we are going to go through this entire run this entire storyline we're going to get all of the dialogue from everybody involved in it with myself Winston coy there's a lot of great cameos and other things in there and people that you know and we're going to have some fun with this we're going to take the voices We're going to take the sound effects and music and all that,

and we're going to put it into one big episode that you guys can watch. Now, patrons and members will get access to it first, but then we're going to make it public. So this is so exciting. And the work that has been put in this by Wicked Art has just been amazing. So as you see, the art here, there's so much more. You can access all of this if you go to Patreon or members now, and you can check it out.

it's available to all members, all patrons. But it's going to be a fun ride. So I want to let everybody know the Capes and Cowles. Comic book adaptation is coming and we'll be excited to bring it to you. So how fun is that? It's it. Yeah. Why is it called Black Man?

It should just be Black Man. That was pretty. No, no, Black Knight was from, it was from a bit. You know, that's what's also funny is that this comic was in the works. This comic has been in the works for so long. You weren't even a part of this channel when that started. Wow. There was, it was,

Capes and Cows was like the only show that was on. Yeah. It's the council at the time. So now, yeah, you're, you're a villain in one of the episodes. So we're going to do like a whole voiceover thing. Yeah. Yeah.

Figure it out. But anyway, the point is that with that 10 memberships, if you're a new member, you can access the entire thing and read it before we even do this. There you go. Ray, Penny, buddy, I will. Can you believe that Will Smith turned down Inception and the major? He made some bad choices. Yeah, at some point, you got to stop blaming people that are, that they're pitching the movies wrong.

And the problem is you. If you're the common denominator, the problem is you, not them pitching it to you. Right. Jay Anderson. John, are you excited for F1? Reviews sound great. I can't. So I'm skipping out on Aalio, man, because I have to see this.

I'm getting there early, so I get a good aisle seat. So I'm not crowded by people. Yeah. I'm so bummed. I'm not going. Tom, Dog, RLG, hearing great things about life of Chuck. excited which one's life and chuck life of chuck is the stephen king one uh with um loki a hittleston and it it it bombed oh did it 0.9 million it did not do well uh uh derrick johnson i love the naked

gun trailer but i really need to see who's actor taking over the the norbert role oh well that's i mean that's i mean it's his son they showed him yeah they showed him in the trailer looking like which is what a great bit that was yeah it it played the first time they showed it and it played the second time they showed it. I think they're purposely keeping that limited on the trailer because they won't be going to go and see it. Tons of those jokes. It would be disappointing if there wasn't.

Yeah. There should be tons of those jokes. And I don't think he's going to be the butt of the joke like OJ was in those movies. So it'll be a different. No, no, I think OJ is going to be the butt of the joke again. Oh, oh, yes, right. Yes. The memory of Norton.

Yes, yes, yes. 100%. Mike Joyce, what was the last movie you nearly gave up on during the first act, only to end up loving it by the credits. That was me, the life of charge. I know the answer to this right away. It was the, what's it called? I can always get the name wrong, but it's the one, the one with, uh,

freaking Yargos, the, the Emma Stone one, the pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, oh, yes, yes, uh, pretty poor things or something like that, poor thing, poor thing, whatever the hell it's called that one. I was watching that movie going, here we go. And otherwise I'm not a big fan of all these other. stuff and I was like, here we go. And then I was about, I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to finish this thing. And I stopped it for a second. Then I went back into it and I loved it. Mark Ruffalo, I, that was the one, I had a conversation with him about it when we had the Critic Choice Awards.

I had to. He was either two people I wanted to talk to that night. It was Paul Giamati, not about his movie, about freaking UFOs. And I did. And then I wanted to talk to Ruffalo and I said, dude, you surprised the hell out of me with that role. He goes, you and me both. He said, I couldn't believe you went to that spot. So great. It was great. So that one, what about you? No, I usually know. No, I gave up during the first act. I only ended up loving it by the I don't know. I have to think about that. I don't know if there's a film. Yeah, no, I don't know. This is this. So I just had watched Heat with my wife. You've seen it before. I tell you that story.

No. Well, I've been trying to get my wife to watch Heat for as long as we've been together. And she's just like, I know, I know, it's a guy movie. It's not going to be something for me. I go, you're going to like it. I'm telling you. She's like, nah, you know. So we're laying in bed a couple weeks ago, and I started watching it because it was on Netflix. She was talking about, you know.

Oh, no, you're right. Yes, you did tell me this. She got, like, like, hooked into it. And she's like, okay, she goes, okay, that was a great movie. She's like, it's not like, it's not like one of these movies where it's like, I watch it and go, oh, okay, it was good. And then I don't forget about it. Like that one, that's a great film.

So yeah. I had that with Hoosiers recently. After Hackman died, I was walking it on a, Sunday, Lily was laying on the couch just being lazy and she started watching it thinking she wasn't going to like it and she was hooked by the end of the movie and loved it. Thanks for laugh guys. As a Palestinian who escaped guys a year ago due to the Israeli occupation. I heard to see what they used to my country.

Well, Ralph, I'm glad that you're able to, you know, that you're safe and you're out. So again, you've been so, uh, he's been so great here with all your support and everything. So yes, very glad that you're safe, my friend. Um, hi Nillums. Hill, hi Nellums. Hill, Nellums. shout to Roka. I haven't been able to catch things a lot.

I'm looking forward to naked gun. The O.G. and police squad were some of my favorite to watch my dad back in the day. They were. Good to see a hill. Absolutely. I love that stuff. I was so excited to see that they hit the tone of what those movies were. Because by the time you got to the Naked 33, 33, you know, 33, whenever it was, I was like, okay, we get it.

It's still fun to watch it. But like, the essence, can you capture that essence? And it seems like the essence is there. And the movie has to be an hour and 45 minutes to an hour 50. Don't push it past that. Oh, yeah. Agreed. Don't push it.

45. Please. An hour and 30 I'd be okay with, an hour of 45. Carlton Rudder, London Calling, saw how to train your dragon with my son Jack in IMAX. Superb movie. We'll catch the show tomorrow. John, great episode three of Crimson Tide. How many episodes did you have Crimson Tide?

Three episodes, two hours each, breaking that film down scene by scene. So, yeah, good, on the Cineophiles. If you guys love Crimson Tide, we broke it, we broke it down, really, well, I think. You got 20 minutes left. 20 and you're at 67. Come on. I'm good. 69 at least. I think you're going to get 200. I feel it. I feel it on my belt.

Hill. Angie Tribeca, underrated comedy in the G. Mold. What is, which one is? I think it was on a, it was a Sundance comic. Okay. Okay. Hasro. Next animated movie to get a live action remake is Coraline, directed by Ariaster. Is that true?

Yeah. Yeah. Fannning his mother and Ian McShane as Bob Minsky. I'll tell you what, bringing back the original cast if you can get them is a smart move. And if they fit the role, obviously, like, Gerard Butler was perfect to get back.

I mean, perfect. Yeah. It was perfect to get back. And that kid from Black Phone as Hickup was good, too. I thought amazing thing's good. Yeah. I thought the girl was good. I thought the girl was excellent.

It was so funny to it. I didn't even realize. I remember her from Last of Us. Yeah. I remember thinking the same thing in Last of Us. And the second I saw her in How to Train Dragon, I'm like, that has to be Thandy Newton's daughter. Yeah.

He looks just like her. And so, I remember, oh, yeah, she was in last of us also. That's definitely Thani Newton's daughter. Yep. Derek Johnson. Thank you, Derek. Thank you, Derek. Derek helping get the 67.

Jay Mobile, why does D.C. constantly go back to Batman and Wonder Woman? Marvel started. I know they had to with Lester's like, Iron, Thorac, Cap, added bigger names, and now getting tested for it. DC has many characters. Okay. Jay Mobile. This is what we talked about before. though. We got to reiterate.

Yeah. If. If, and John said it right before, if Marvel had the rights to X-Men and Spider-Man, you would have ever seen Iron Man. Maybe for the worst. And maybe it's a good thing that didn't happen. But DC is not in the position to lead with the many characters.

I had a conversation with Winston on Friday about the characters that should get their own movies, and I disagree with him thoroughly. He thinks that Martian Manhunter is a household name. I said, no world where he's a household name. That is a character that, that's a Guardians and the Galaxy character. Later on down the line, if you're just hitting, everybody wants to see everything, then you throw a movie in. Marshall, you got to introduce him.

Nobody knows who that is, except the comic fans. Here's how you know if someone's a household name or not. Go to a family function at Christmas or Thanksgiving. Right. And then bring up a superhero name. Right. And not a main superhero name, right? Then you'll know if the entire table knows them, then maybe they're a household name.

But I guarantee you, Martian Manhunter isn't at all. We agreed to disagree by the end of it. But there's no world. To me, you go with, again, Superman, Supergirl, Wonder Woman, Batman, Aquaman, Flash. Right. Those are your five movies. And then you can start playing outside the realm. Those are your five.

Green Arrow. Green Arrow. Green Arrow. It's moving away, though. That's when you're moving out of the real main, well-known. Yes. That's where you play around. Jay Mobile, I know it's partially because this might be the last chance, but to me, it gets a little tired that they keep rebooting, reimagining the same trio.

Yeah, but it hasn't hit yet. It hasn't worked in a way where they built, like, the empire. They have the legacy, but they haven't built the new empire. They're trying to build the new empire. Yeah, separately, they've been good, Superman, good, Batman, good, one-to-one movies. but never under the same regime. So yeah. Yeah.

Don't forget, Gun came up in trauma, a lot to prove. He did. I mean, he did. He's built, look,

he's built a hell of a career for himself. Yeah. Who went from these smaller to trauma stuff to big blockbuster movies, to making millions of dollars in the Marvel world, to doing everything, to running a company. Like DC to running the brand.

I mean, he was such an outside shot the way that they're doing it. So, yeah, it was great. Let's see. Buster Bar. Barnes, Gun is on the DC show this week, pretty sure.

They need to clip the hell out of it. He should have a segment on that show. And they don't have to have him in studio all the time. He can shoot something at his house on his phone and say, now the gun segment. And he gives updates and you piece it out on that channel. If I was producing that show, I would be begging him, begging him. Begging him, please, James, don't, if you can,

instead of posting some information that you wanted to, post it, But we'll take the tweet that you're responding to. If there's somebody that you or whatever it is on threads, if you see something on threads that you want to respond to, let's highlight that thread thing if you want to do that. And then we'll shoot the thing. We'll send you the footage and then release it from and then throw back to our show. Please.

Yeah. Next one. After that. Joe, for show. Who do you think Cina's last will be against? Any chance someone comes out of a. to face sina anywhere on the farewell tour is any worldly fights triple h no not with that heart issue with triple h no way is that got getting in the ring okay but i do think randy is going to be the

final one again did that or edge if edge ever leaves a e w because cina edge was yeah a great program is there any world that curt angle comes back yeah but it won't be a good match you're watching you'd be watching Grudge match with De Niro and Stallone. That's true. That's true. I think they're giving away the CN Punk one too soon. But that was a hell of a promo, dude. Jesus, I missed it.

I got to see it. Oh, yeah, from wrong. Oh, my God. Punk's amazing. He's gone next level again. He's a veteran hidden outside shots. He's amazing. Did you, oh, by the way, you know what you didn't talk about in naked gun? Was Cody Rhodes?

Yeah, Carta. The bartender, right? There is. Yeah. Yeah. Zach Robert. Austin's in it too? Oh, Busta. Busta Rhymes in this.

Oh, Busta Rhymes. Oh, Bustra Rhymes. Yeah. Zach Roberts. Charlie Fraser for Wonder Woman. She played Furios' mother. I remember Furious's mother being good, but I don't, I don't remember. I don't know we're well enough.

I don't know well enough to say yes or no. I mean, as sure at least they were on Wonder Woman years ago, Jesus, that would have been gold. Interesting. Yeah. Top talk. My prediction. Superman's going to be a lot of fun and have a lot of heart,

but slightly bogged down by guns, Im and short writing. Both can be true. Look, that's what I'm saying. It is possible, but you've got to judge it on tone once you see the film. Because you can watch, there are things in the trailer that I can look at and go, I don't know about that, but then I see it in context in the film. And I go, okay, it worked better than I thought it didn't work the way it did in the trailer. It worked in the movie.

So you got to double check. You're just making the prediction that that's what you think is going to be. And it's possible. But who's going to be the beacon of that, the jokes of it's going to be, Guy Gardner, I'm cool with that. Let's see how it goes. It's going to take chances. Yeah. And we'll see how many of those chances resonate with people. Yeah.

Just from the trailer, you can tell, like an aggressive Clark Kent yelling at Lois, a guy like, eyes up here, the teeth against the screen, his little jokes with Mr. Terrific in the recent trailer. You think eyes up here is a joke? Yeah, no, I mean, the way that he, the confidence that he has in that rule. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. All these little moments are chances there too.

Yeah, right, right. Jake, I've never been more excited for a full watch along than Sam going through Lord of the Rings. If you can't do the extended, I get it, but please, it's hard enough to try to get her to watch Lord of the Rings in general. Get her to watch. She's never seen it. She's never seen it, never wanted to see it. Yeah, but she wants, but here's the difference. I think Sam's going to like it.

Okay. I think she's going to like it a lot. But getting her in here for four hours, three different times is going to be hard to do. It's going to be hard to do. So probably not. But look, what's funny about that is this. I don't like to watch the Lord of the Rings movies unless I watch the extended versions.

Those are my favorite thing. But I watched it with my daughter and my wife during COVID. We watched the extended versions. And we watched them over, you know, in course, like two or three days each one. But that's how I like to watch them. I think they have the most detail out of all of them. But it's just, I just don't think I can do it. Ray, Penny, buddy, I will.

Monica from Top Gun. should be Wonder Woman. Well, there you go. Marlboro. You're not the only person that said that, oh, no, I know. She's one of the names that's being thrown around. And I'll be honest, it's not one of those things where I'm like, Aja Arjona is the only choice. She's not. Those top two choices that I've seen everywhere. She'd be great.

Izzy and Ghalis is the other one, right, Gonzalez? Well, yeah, Issa, but I don't think that's going to happen. I don't think she has, and nothing against her. I think she's talented. I don't think she's in a different, I think those two are in a higher tier acting than her. I agree. Yeah. I don't think she's bad. I just don't think she's at their level of acting. Right.

Awesome Prime OG. I lost the love of movies for a while, but I have to say everything I've seen since 23 until now has been great with the exception of Nosferatu. Oh my God, I love Nosephrates is great. Love Nosephratu. I saw Materialist, Pro Scheme, and Life of Chuck. And I hope you I hope you dug it. How was Materials, man? That's great. You saw more movies than I did at the last three there. You know, I started, John, with my wife, was the amateur. Oh, yeah, it's good. Yeah, it takes its time, but it's worth it. It's detailed.

I like it. Now, the other thing, though, that I know already is I'm going to hope I'm wrong, but what's his him? Holtz, Holtz, McCleaney? Yeah. You know he's going to be the bad guy. He's always the bad guy. Of course.

It's always a bad guy. What do you need me to answer for you? I love him. I love him, but he's always, you know where I remember him from the most? He played Teddy Atlas in the Mike Tyson movie. Oh, God. I forgot. That's how I, that's my first, my first introduction to him was him as Teddy Atlas.

I remember being one of 10 people was a fan of that show he did as a boxer. Oh, yeah, yeah. I remember that movie, that show. The show was decent. And his brother was, uh, the dude was, uh, what's his face's, uh, brother, uh, Sabretooth, Ray Donovan, that guy. Oh, Pablo Schreiber was his brother. That's right.

That's right. That's right. That's right. I'd like that show. Jake, John, since you're going through Tashima, any chance you do a live stream of Ghosts? When that drops in October, it looks badass. Yeah, I'm going to rev the Twitch up again, man.

I've come back into love with video games, and so I've been playing Tsushima like crazy. The Lady Alon thinks I've got it addicted. I was up to 3 a.m. last night. I don't do that before. Yeah. So I'm a fan of it. I will be doing Ghosts.

Also because the lead of the game is a friend of ours who came up through the system with us to be a part of things here being a pundant in the world of punditry. Oh, Erica Ishi? Yeah, I like Erica. We follow each other. I'm so happy for success. That's great.

It's funny you say that about the games. Like, every Father's Day is my one day where I can just, I sit on the couch and play video game. I don't get, so I get more. Last night, I, you know, it's funny. I have the 2024 WWE game. People tell me in the comment section when my problem was. I kept trying to get it just let me do one thing.

I'm like, I'm trying to switch over to play like the actual, the campaign or whatever. Right, right. So what do it? I'm like, what's happening? And I was like, and I kept trying, I gave up. I said, I'm done with this. So I closed out of it.

And then I played more the Indiana Jones game, which I love. Are you liking that one? I'm going to get that one next. Yeah. And then, and then after that, what did I also? Oh, and I played a, I was playing, I don't know what version of. I started playing Halo for a little bit. I don't even know.

I just running around playing three games. It was great. Jay Mobile, Arjona would be a great wonder woman. While I agree the name Wonder Woman sells, I think selling Wonder Woman or any female superhero in 2027 is going to be harder than it was in 2017's world. I hope I'm wrong. Look, there's a way that, again, it's a matter of, you know,

Wonder Woman is one of those characters. It just translates. It gets past the politics. If you do it right, it's the movie itself and how it's presented, then it gets past, it gets past those things. This idea of female, Barbie made a billion dollars, like almost a billion dollars. The female lead thing is a red herring.

It's all about her if it's a good movie and that people just the pop culture Zikeyes grabs it. When they grab it, it drowns out everybody else who's got. Make a good movie. Yeah, make a good. That's the number one thing. Make a good movie. Jay Mobile. Thank you, Jim O'Don.

Derek Johnson, and freaking Peelty is going to love this. Patrick Stewart is the. goat bald head followed by Ed Harris. Can't deny that. Pretty good one. Ed's got a good loss of hair. Both good ones. He was so good in the limited role he had in Top Gun, by the way. Oh, yeah. So good in that beginning. Perfect in that role.

Tyler Fiverr, does Ledger have the best comic book movie performance? He's in the conversation. Yeah. He's in the conversation. I mean, you can't deny Joaquin Phoenix and Joker, can you? I mean, those are the top two that you're going to have Yeah, I would put Ledger over his, but I, again, both in the conversation, but I would put Ledger as, as, you know, he's going to be hard for me to say that person's better than him, but he's in the kind of like, I mean, look, overall, I think Robert Downey Jr. In his work as Tony Stark is Hall of Fame, you know what I mean?

Best performance better than Heath Ledger? Probably not. But there's a lot in there. But I would say ledgers, ledgers in the conversation, if not the answer. Busy, Hey guys. I just watch the Wi-Files app on synchronicity and meaningful coincidences. I got to watch that. Do either you have any personal examples of moments in your life that feel like fate? Happy Monday. Oh, Busybee, we could be here for a long time when it comes to this conversation because I feel

like, yeah, there are things. And I always, I get into this conversation with my wife all the time to which she doesn't kind of believe in these certain things. She believes in examples of certain fate and things that are meant to be. And I do agree that sometimes those things are true, but I think that I always say this. Like if I don't call you, John, like if I don't call you on that day, we met we met for food and we have a conversation, right? Do you get into the online space? You very well might.

You very well mind of. I'm telling you no. I'm telling you no. I thought about it. I'd seen it, but I thought I had missed the train. Okay. But let's say that maybe, again, what you can't say definitively is no because you don't know the circumstances that would have eventually landed you there.

Right, right, right. The question is, do you get involved in the schmodeown? Do you start your own thing? Do you meet your now later? Because you're all those little circumstances that happen. The shitty things that happen in your life, if something really crappy didn't happen to you in that aspect that pushed you to go that way. Yeah.

You know, and that didn't happen to you, you know, would you have again met that person, done these things, had all the stupid things that happened in your? your life. The things are like, oh my God, if I can go back and change that, if you would have changed that, the good thing that happened to you eventually wouldn't happen. Oh, yeah, it would happen one way. And I said to my wife, like, you know, I was like, you know, if we didn't meet it the same, the way that we did, she'll, you know, eventually amount. Yeah, but we wouldn't have our, we wouldn't have the kids we have today. Like, you ever see about time? Yeah, yeah. I love that. It was one of favorites. Yeah, as kids, but they're not the same kids because of different moments

of things that happened that, like, and I, to get crass, I won't get crass. But like, there's, there's things that have happened that you can't that it just it just you wouldn't have the same kids so i think everything is a is a bit of fate but it's also choices choices i think yeah i agree with you everything is fate and you're presented with the choices and that determines what your fate and in the end that was the fate that was written out for you i i agree with that and i do think some people are chosen and some people aren't and that's the truth of life not everyone can succeed not everyone can be That's one ever going to cheat. And you're absolutely right because I was coming out of the worst, worst,

most toxic abusive relationship I ever been in my life for five years. And you caught me at the right time when everything was open and I wanted to, and I wanted to try something new with my life. I wasn't happy with the acting stuff. And you called me. It was the right moment because I didn't, I was hurt, needed healing, something to make me enjoy my life again. And I got into that.

Then, you know, I almost took my life into. If I don't look on Twitter and see Miss Movies post hotlines for suicide, I don't call that hotline and maybe I take my life that morning. Those are little things. And then I would have never been in the Schmo, would have never been in the Schmo, would have never been a champion of Smolna, would have never met Lily. Those those little things. You just never know. And so I do think fate plays a hand and it's up to you to choose. And you mentioned that thing about the greatness, right?

Think about all the people in the world that didn't take chance somewhere, somewhere. It's somewhere there is a person that was as good, essentially, as a Michael Jordan, a Mike Tyson, a Muhammad Ali. Tom Brady, yes. Marlon Brando, that never got into that profession. Right. It is probable. Someone decided, you know what? Yeah, it was pretty good.

I just never pursued it because I've never mentioned with Brett before. We all know someone who is so incredibly talented and we go, why didn't just keep doing it? Yeah. Brett. Bread is just a natural, like when Brett, if Brett worked on stand-up comedy sketch all the damn time, the way he does when he's like dedicated on the studio, everything, I'm telling you, he's one of the most natural, funny human beings I've ever met in my life. You're right. Julius Wyatt, will you guys go to any FSU football games this year? Probably not. I mean, it's closer to me now, but that's true.

You can drive down. Yeah. I don't even drive there, but, but I can fly there. lot easier. Joe, for show, you think there's a big difference in experience between early fan screenings and the first prime time showing of a movie? For example, Superman has a fan screening on the Tuesday before it's released versus a 7 p.m. screening on Friday.

I think the hype is the difference, right? Yeah, but I do think the fan screenings are the ones where people are really dialed into the movie. And you're not getting the casuals who are eating popcorn at the wrong moments or opening candy during emotional. Or critics, are critics taking notes? Oh, critics taking notes with lights on. With lights on their

I'm nuts. I know, bro, I know. I have to complain. I almost went to blows with somebody over that shit. It's like,

it's like, well, I'm working. So am I. Yeah. Figure out a different way to do it. Yeah,

exactly. I'm working. Oh, no, stop this. You can, or learn it right in the dark. Yeah,

learn it on your phone. Jake, I think you'd like bad medicine, a YouTube movie reaction channel with four guys who met through pro wrestling. That's awesome. One of the guys recently

host the Arnold Classing Bodybuilding Company. Wow. Come on. I saw them doing reactions now, the daredevil and other things. It's great. You should watch them. They have good back and forth. They get the good banter. And I'm talking about Star Wars banters. I'm talking about banter. Thank you. Mark, Jason, Ali.

Saw I Leo yesterday. Great film. I love hearing that. Wonderful family story. Did you see you? No, tonight. Be a good one for the dads. Hope you had a good father's day. Thank you, Mark. Oh, that's great to hear. I love it. I'm excited to see it. Yeah. Javier is because you do a rewatch of Logan with Sam potentially, potentially, but definitely

Deadpool and Wolverine, but a rewatch of Logan, I don't know if it's necessary. Maybe, maybe, maybe because after we do X-Men, maybe, before Doomsday, you should do that if he's going to show up. Maybe, maybe. Joey Pedrus, always love talking about marketing. What do you think Superman is doing right and doing wrong in terms of marketing? I don't know what they're doing wrong. I'll tell you what, $200 million for marketing.

They spent a lot. I mean, maybe that's one thing, but they're using it. They're spending it. I don't know what they're doing wrong in marketing right now. I think they're doing a lot of things right. You got a criticism on their marketing? A little bit. We're not seeing David Corn Sweat.

We should be seeing him more and more. We're seeing James Gunn. Okay. I get it. He's the selling point. It's James Gunn, Superman. I get it. But you want people to get to know this guy so they can go see the movie and cheer for him.

Sure. And so I think he should be out there more in like Tonight Show and doing all kinds of stuff. profiles on him. There should be all, we haven't seen any of that, you know, and so I think that's a... The look at the Rolling Stone thing, right? You guys are doing a break line by line because of what

gun is going to be talking about the future of this thing. So that's why he's doing his thing, but I don't disagree with you. I think that that Horencewet should be out there a little bit more also. Also enough with the dog. Jesus, enough with the dog. Yeah, yeah. That's the one thing I'm curious about, like, like that, look, we talked about it with the movies, the movies that are popping.

The smart marketing, though, with the dog, though, is you try, you're, that's my little, my little one looked and went, what's that? She wants, I want to see more about the dog. She wants to see that. That's how you get kids to go, huh? Yeah. Core and Emperor, outside of Trinity starring with Staten Shock, static shot. I don't know. You understand what that is? Yeah, static shock. You're thinking about static shock is a, as a, um, a hero in the D.C. universe. We're talking about it being used to you. All right. Next, we have a couple left here, John. Top Talk. What's the minimum Superman needs to make to satisfy DC? Will there be extra scrutiny on critic reception given its first movie in the franchise? Critic reception won't mean Jack Doodoo if it does over $700 million. People like it. It's not going to matter what critics are. 700 million of the, yeah, the audience likes it. Now, the audience doesn't like it. If the critics don't like it, but the audience does, who cares?

700 million. Yeah, if critics and audiences are mixed, that's a tough situation. But I would say it needs to make 800 to Saturday. Really? Yeah, I would think so. I know James said, we're just a cog in the machine and we're just happy

to make our money back. Nonsense. Nonsense. $800 is what happens. I think $700, it's not bad. Andy Kamar, Tiffany's Deadpien. The classic moment that will always live on. Geek Lodestar, did you guys hear about the reason

Jay lost to Gunther to set up Goldberg versus Gunther at Night of Champions? think. Rokishi was mad as a... I saw Rokishi's thing. Come on, I have two sides to it. Go ahead.

The first side of it is, it's a dad protecting his kid. Of course. You were saying, man. Yeah, quiet now. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's exactly. Come on now.

You compared him to Randy Orton. Yeah, it's nonsense. His logic was nonsense. Stop this. Stop this. The reason why is what I've been saying. The guy is not contrary to his name, not a man.

event wrestler. It ain't about the booking. It's about the fact that he can't make these things exciting. And that's on the year coming around. Oh, sure. Yeah, because now I've got to see a sample of what it's like. You know what I'm I think it was potential. But the WWE, all professional

wrestling companies, are littered with people that look like, Ultimori being the most famous, people that look like they were ready to carry the strap and flamed out. And it's not usually about booking. He gave the... Rikisha gave the same reason that that guy in the chat who has since disappeared was giving. He's like, well,

he sells the most merchandise and he gets people on their feet cheering. That means nothing in the grand scheme of things. It means nothing. If you work in the series, it's helping it. It'll get you in the picture. Right. But to sustain, you've got to be able to the guy. Look, from what I hear, he's a wonderful person. Everyone says a great guy. Wonderful person. He stumbles over his words all the time, botches spots. When you get elevated, you can't do that anymore. He's like, to me, there's a Ricky the Dragon component.

I don't mean that they're comparable. I just mean that there's the Ricky Dragon Steambelt component. And by this, I mean, there are wrestlers that people cheer more for in the chase than in the accomplishment. That's what you're saying. Ricky was always great at chasing the belt. Once he got it, they were not memorable runs with the belt. Well, Ricky got screwed, though.

Ricky was amazing going for the belt. Yeah, Ricky got screwed with the inner. You know that whole story with the intercourse, of course, of course. But there's always great. You cheer for him because I know what you're saying. I know your point. Derek, as far as the storyline goes, Goldberg coming back, if he eats Gunther, that's going to be ridiculous.

He won't. I think that Gunther will, I think Goldberg will finally put somebody over. And I think he'll put Gunthrow over. All this for a seven-minute match. Yeah. Derek Johnson, throwing some support in there. Thank you, Derek. Got 87, not bad, John.

Nathan, so happy father said. Thank you, Nathan. Yeah, we had a good one yesterday. I went and got some frozen yogurt in my favorite place. It was great. Jay Anderson, Ed Harris would have been an excellent Magneto. It would have been interesting. I think he kind of played a version of that in The Rock.

Which makes me think he maybe wouldn't have been. But yeah. Buster Barnes. Is Superman telling jokes, though? There are humorous moments by designs he's involved in, but I'm pretty sure he's mainly serious to what he's saying. No. Yes.

So let me be clear about that. Yes. He's not cracking jokes going, Hey. Right. My question, my question again is just going to be in that moment from the lead up that we got there, is it relevant and does it make sense when it's delivered? When it's delivering, you go, okay, he's exhausted and he's just saying, I am doing stuff.

Let me along. And you led up to that moment and it's satisfying. You know, oh, well, the trailer showed a different thing. No, he's not telling jokes. He's not trying to be, you know, George Carlin or Bill Burr. no he's he's just he just has more personality and I dig that yeah um agreed fassia brute hey i recently saw the godfather and the godfather two and i don't get how so many people love godfather two after the over the godfather one is so much better than godfather two

i agree oh yeah yeah you're so wrong on this man the epic scope well not wrong because everything's subjective but i disagree with your opinion godfather two is the scope of that is amazing and you have denieral and but you know in their prime it's you're able to get more detailed off the the the masterpiece that you created with part one yeah and hyman roth is a way more sinister villain than salazzo or bars barzine forgot say yeah ralph roka if i have a political question for you where is it appropriate to ask is it hot mike spill the tequila with me at wincenae maybe spill the tequila with me at wincena we open the door to that much more jeff hates politics and christian's not a fan of it on this show

um yeah i just feel like it i still i'll say it again i think john needs to create a political channel i think that's where it should live i don't think if they were gonna throw me in jail i would absolutely do it but it seems like you know i know i don't think you should live on a movie channel i think you're hurting yourself uh top dog r lg love you roka god thank god for miss movies right i always thank god for her how she doing you talk to her no idea no idea i haven't heard from her in forever but occasionally pops up on social some people's social media Armada, would it be better for Gunn to explain how some characters from the DCEU are staying in the DCU in a movie rather than a show, aka a peacemaker? I think they're going to with the multiverse thing.

I think that that that's what they showed in that last trailer. Yeah. Yeah. Doug Developer, not another teen movie is among Goat Spoof. Speaking of another team movie, Serena Vincent, who's in that is in that grasping and straws pilot that I have. That's going to be that we will eventually put on the internet, I think. Sam Levine's in that movie as well. And so it's Chris Evans, yeah.

Derek Johnson, what's something you purchase, clothes, food, haircut, furniture, electronics that you won't get a cheap version on even if it's expensive. Television. Television, 100%. Yeah, got to get a nice television. LG OLED, can't go wrong. Have to.

Dingus McNally. What's the next game you're planning to play, John? Probably Assassin's Creed. The Shadows won. The Samurai one. I really love that. But it might be in A. Jones because Christian's about the third or fourth person has told me it's really good.

it the dude who put what's it matt uh who who who voices indy oh i don't remember he's he's great not nolan north right who no that's somebody and uh he he's great and i was when when i saw the initial trailer i should have gotten jamy cost this guy doesn't he i was so wrong he is i mean jimmy would have been great sure this guy is awesome awesome top dog john thoughts on the club world club up dumb a.F. in my opinion. Yes, 100%. He'll do the job of the Hut voice, but yes, it's terrible. It's a waste of time. And you're killing all these team seasons ahead of time before they even play for real. This is a dumb, dumb exercise.

Yeah. All right, John, hang tight because you're at 94. Oh. Sun Tzu, in Sly's cameo and staying alive, the best cameo ever, he directed it. Yeah. Although the T,000 and Catherine cameos were awesome in last action here. Those were good, too. Yeah, I mean, there's some really great cameos in the line. But as a kid, I love that one in the big fur coat when he's walking down the street. Right, right. I think Matt Damon is the king of cameos. Showing up in the, what's the European trip, whatever the one was called.

Yeah. And then in the end of Finding Forster, he just pops up in the most interesting places. So, yeah. Yeah. Okay, let's see. I love Slice Cameo, though, the bump and turnaround. It's great. Julius Wy.

Why? Prediction. Sammy wins King of the ring. Beets Gunther. at SummerSlam. Seth catches in on the same night, still love Punk and Sina in the ring together. It's not a crazy storyline from what they set up.

It's not a crazy storyline. Yeah. I do want to see, it's not going to happen, but I want to see Punk beat Sina. Yeah, it won't happen, but it'll be great.

Punk's going to put Sina over, and it's kind of mending fences all over the place. I know because Punk, punk has gotten to that place now. He's more of a company guy, though, because he's not, because he likes,

he likes where he's working now. Yes. And he is happy to do the job and take the loss. Right. Because he's beloved no matter what. Yeah, he said it though, too, dude. He wants to be around for a long time after he's retired. He wants to be involved in the business.

He wants to book. He wants to do it. So he's, I'm happy for him. I'm happy, man. He's calmed down. He's settled down. He's now happy. I'd like the same he went in would be interesting.

Gabriel Rodriguez. Congratulations, Christian. My giants have taken Devers out of Boston for the sake of New York. Boston, I don't know what they're doing. They do it all the time. They're like, hey, you know, we got a really great player. What do we do next? Trade them.

Oh, he's being disgruntled. Trade him. Trade them. So they do all the time. That's like, thank you. I mean, I see it from Boston's point. If you're paying the guy through $13 million over 10 years, you should do what you tell him to do.

But if the guy feels like you're going to mess up his career prospects and doesn't want to do it, you got to respect that. Robert Rory situation, remember? Yeah, yeah. Jake, is the Suicide Squad technically the first DCU entry since the events are canon? I don't know. That's something. Someone should ask Gunn on this freaking interview thing that you're doing.

It's a great question. Yeah. I think it is, actually. You can argue it is. Yeah. Geek Loadsstars. Do you guys watch NXT? I think it's the better product at a wrong Smackdown going to be going to the Great American Bash in Atlanta.

That's fun. Do you watch it, John, NXT? I do watch it occasionally. I don't watch it consistently as I should. but yes, I hear it's fantastic. And when I do watch it, I enjoy the hell out of it. 98, John. We're almost at the 100. Hey.

Mike Joyce, yes, we need Implight Truth 2.0, Roga. It would be called the truth if I was going to do it. You should do it. Mr. GMT, you guys are rock stars. Thank you for everything you do. Thank you guys for everything you do. Thanks for all the support here today. I really appreciate it.

Great start to this week already. Busy B. Love your Downer Earth Channel. Thank you. I know you're pretty super busy, but any chance you go back to long-form videos with attack, Peter. Thanks. Yeah, the reason why I haven't done them is because of exactly what you just said, Busy, because of the time, constrained, especially now with everything that I do with my schedule.

But I was on the phone with Peter last week. We're trying to get a few long form out there. I got one video up today. I try to shoot one or two for the day. Sometimes only get to one, but my goal is to do at least one a day. Jake, Troy Baker, which is any, there you go, not Matthew. And also is Joel. Oh, really?

I didn't realize that he asked. Yes. I know what are the most famous names, Baker or the North. Really, really good. He's great. Corn Emperor, Impolite, Rosen, the Truths. Yeah, the truth. Perfect.

See, Black. I think Gunn missed a window with SM4? Yeah. I don't know what SM4 is. Doomsday, Secret Wars, and X-Men coming up. No Batman until 2028. Crazy. Yeah, but I think...

Spider-Man 4. Spider-Man 4. Oh, okay. I see. But Batman's Batman, though. Batman is always going to pull. This may be why they're missing the window, Christian, is they don't want to, you know,

with those four movies coming out, they don't want to compete against us four movies, Christian. Maybe. Fasia brute! Did Roka do both Godfathers on Cineophiles, and what does Steve think? We did. So you can find out what Steve thinks when you go back.

It was like three or four years ago. We tried to get Levine, but we couldn't get the schedules right, because he loves those movies. Yeah. Dengis McNally. Would you want Margot Robbie back as Harley Quinn or someone new? I think at this point you've got to go with somebody new.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't think she must come back either. It's just making it confusing. You got to go. Jake, any chance of a sequel to that you don't slap me? Those are retired. At least, I mean, look, if Ken and Ellis can do it, they, like, I sign over the rights.

There you go. Ryan Harper, make Christian Oliver shows without Roke again. Stop. Oh, sorry, Ryan. Stop. Julius Wyatt, like Godfather, one more, but two was harder to pull off. That's very true. I'd like to see them do it.

Did you watch the offer? Not yet. That's another one I got on my list. I know, I know. I know. You would love that show. I just finished presumed innocent. People have been telling me for months to watch this show.

Amazing. I got to see the offer. Oh, you got to, for you, your God, your Godfather. I know, I know. The offer was fantastic. Miles Teller was so good. And Juno Temple, so good in that show. Yeah.

Yeah, and they should do a sequel to that show. I saw the scene where the guy who plays Brando becomes brand, becomes great. It was amazing. Top Dog, where's Brett? I miss Brett. Brett should be. He's going to start to reappear on Wednesdays with Chris Carr. All right.

For now, this is our last one coming up. Fossi Abruza. PSA, watch both Godfathers and get back to me. PSA, I've seen them more than you have, and I've already tell you how to get back to you, and that's Godfather Part 2 is better than Godfather Part 1. I've watched those at least four or five times a year. I got to see. No, Duffer was so good, so good.

Okay, all right. That's it. That's it. 105, John. Pretty good. Starting the week strong. Just kidding. That was wrong. 106. Hey. I just started watching the rehearsal, and it's fascinating.

Have you, either of you seen it? That's the one with, what's his face? Yeah. I can't watch it. It has nothing to do that it's one of these things. Everybody raves about it. I have not heard one person say that it's bad. I've heard it.

everything says it was great. There's just something about the guy. I don't know why he annoys me, but he annoys me. I can't watch it's not that for me. It's more the, it's uncomfortable comedy to the nth degree and I can't. I can barely handle curf your enthusiasm. If we go farther than that, I tap out. It's too much. So I can't. And it's not, is it fair? No. No. It's no for me, from my reasoning. Is it fair? Not at all. Has he done anything for me to be annoyed it. Have I seen more than clips of him? No. But it's just, it's what it is. Anyway, all right, John,

so there's Dingus, get the outlaw's first win in months. Thank you. Black. I think Fantastic Four and Superman get close to a billion. I think you're right. I think they get close. If Superman's good, it crosses a billion. Guarantee. It could be. All right, John, give a promo. Where are you going? What's going on?

Yeah, head on over to the Allo Nation channel. YouTube.com slash John Roka says, and later on today, we're going to drop that video of me and Jeff, breaking down that James Gunn, about everything that you said there about the DC universe. And of course, we've got spill the tequila tomorrow. More hot mic, more geek buddies coming up as well this week. All of it there on the channel.

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Come on. Nobody's mentioned it. I'm so proud of myself. But I don't have to make you guys go through that freaking sound problem anymore. I got a good, I got a good mic. You don't care?