The Kristian Harloff Show - James Gunn CONFIRMS He's Working On Superman 2?!

Episode Date: July 31, 2025

On today's episode of The Kristian Harloff Show, Kristian Harloff and Steph Sabraw dive into some HUGE updates from the world of superheroes and fantasy! The biggest story? James Gunn may have just co...nfirmed that he's already working on Superman 2 — even though he previously hinted that there wouldn't be a traditional sequel. What does this mean for the DCU and Superman's future after the first film? We break it all down and look at his comments. We also revisit James Gunn's clarification of what's canon in the new DCU, as he continues to reshape the future of DC storytelling. Over in the MCU, Harrison Ford was asked if he'll return after Captain America: Brave New World — and his response? Classic Ford. Plus, Alison Brie talks about the new Masters of the Universe live-action movie, saying it might be just as campy as the '80s cartoon. And in House of the Dragon Season 3 news, Annie Shapero joins the cast as Alysanne Blackwood — one of the saga's fiercest warriors! 🔥 Packed episode. Great discussion. Don't miss it! #JamesGunn #Superman2 #DCU #MCU #KristianHarloffShow #HouseOfTheDragon #MastersOfTheUniverse SPONSOR: RUGIET: Connect with a provider at https://www.Rugiet.com/KRISTIAN to see if a Rugiet Ready prescription is right for you. You can use code KRISTIAN to get 15% off today!

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Starting point is 00:00:31 What's going on, everybody? going on that's great intro what's going on we have a lot going on perfect um so james gun hints that superman too might actually be coming after all it seems did he just confirm it well that's what we're going to find out um we've got k-pop demon hunters is getting a sequel Mikey madison and i think jeremy allen white are going to be in the social network part two jumping back to DC, James Gunn, explain some DCU canon and how that works. And that's a lot.
Starting point is 00:01:11 And there's more to come. So let's hop into it. It's myself and Steph Sabraa here on the show today, this Thursday, ladies and gentlemen, Christian Harlov's show. Let's do it. Welcome back to the show, ladies and gentlemen, and it is Thursday.
Starting point is 00:01:40 And we've got some stuff to discuss. Steph Sabraugh having a couple of things going on with their internets, but she'll be here momentarily. We have quite a discussion. A lot of great topics today and wondering if that's going to add on to the fact that Steph might have a shot here to take on Roxy and Mike, who currently stand at 133. And you guys are already throwing comments.
Starting point is 00:02:06 She's already a 15. before we even started if people are coming into the chat um so we're going to discuss that i want to thank everybody who came into the member stream yesterday man oh man so i announced on the show if you saw it with chris car now we're leaning we pretty much secured our director for the project and now we're going to be starting a kickstarter very soon and it's going to be a hefty goal for what we want do we want to make it look like a full on streaming show that already exists so i had the members come on yesterday and they gave some really great ideas of what people might be interested in and like from a high tier of if you donate a certain level you can be an extra in one of the scenes
Starting point is 00:03:00 videos from the set like the things that are just i thought were really smart and things that the audience might want and i'd love to actually see that in the comments today too if there's things that you guys think could work before we launch this thing the idea is probably somewhere in probably the beginning of september is where we would launch it uh and we're pumped for it we're really excited for it it's getting some good responses where we want to probably go out to some some people that that you recognize cast and great locations and all that and try to make this thing a thing so thank you Thank you to everybody who was in there yesterday and giving those ideas.
Starting point is 00:03:39 It's pretty great. All right. Trying to think what we do. How much can I stall before Steph gets here? I don't know if you checked out the, if you checked out the Happy Gilmore reaction I put out today, that's out there today. So make sure you do that.
Starting point is 00:03:59 But I'm not going to stall anymore. Good stuff is here. Hi. Let me do this. I got to move myself over now. Oh, this camera. This is a camera. I'll do this.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I'll move over here. Check this out. Do this. How about that? Boom, bam. I don't even do anything. So, yeah, I was just talking real quick. I sent you a funny, a picture for the lead character when he was younger.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Amazing. Now that you've read it, you can see it, right? It's perfect. Yeah. It's like, it is awesome. It's one of those things that's just, like so ready to be made. And so yes, I was just talking about before you moved in.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I was talking about it to the audience yesterday at the live in the live stream. People came with really some great ideas because I don't know if I told you. We pretty much secured our director. No. Yeah. So we now are just putting together ideas for the Kickstarter. And yesterday the members came in and had some just incredible ideas, really great ideas. so that's so awesome like that's a great sign because it's like you for you can have a you have to have a
Starting point is 00:05:09 really good script but you have to have a great director who can like make the changes or add ideas for visual right and and we're going to put it we're going to make a move also for some for some recognizable actors and stuff too you know so we're going pretty hefty with the with the goal so fingers crossed hell yeah um did you see and are you going to see naked gun yet Oh, no, I haven't seen it yet. We're going to see it. I'm so excited. I saw your review.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Okay, and you've seen the originals, right? Not all of them, but yeah, the first one. Okay. I would watch the second one before you go. It's not relevant to it. It's just more like you'll love this movie. You will love this movie. I feel like the trailer had like four laugh out loud moments.
Starting point is 00:05:59 So I'm like, it's got to be. decent. You're going to love it. You're going to absolutely. And then I loved your reaction. So I was like, okay, there's a good joke per second type thing. That's amazing. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:06:12 So that's going to be interesting. And I, by the way, that reaction killed. Did good. Yeah, it did good. Like 50, 50, 60,000 or something. So it was a idiot. I thought I had more. And you're looking at the hundreds.
Starting point is 00:06:24 You're thinking about Fantastic Four. Oh, okay. Well. Fantastic Four tied, tied avatar as my most watch out of the theater reaction. Oh, that's awesome. Would have been Superman, but I went to the, I went a day late to, uh, to the screen. But, um, anyway, so let's get to some of these stories because there's some, there's some
Starting point is 00:06:46 good with I just brought up Superman. So let's just stay with Superman. Let's stay with Superman. James Gutt seems to confirm that he is working on Superman too after originally hinting that there wouldn't be a straightforward sequel. This is from Molly Edwards over to games. radar. So James Gunn is apparently just confirmed a Superman sequel will be happening, despite hinting that it wouldn't on threads. Gunn shared with a fan what he's up to now that Superman
Starting point is 00:07:15 promotion is wrapped. He said, Peacemaker Press and then sequel writing. Another fan asked, when are you going to tease the sequel? Gunn replied, it just did. So now we're going to go ahead and assume this is referring to a Superman sequel rather than a follow-up to peacemaker. season two. It's not a total surprise considering Superman is doing well at the box office and it holds a great rotten tomato score. What is surprising though is that Gunn previously seemed to deny that a straightforward sequel would happen. Define Superman 2, he previously said on threads when asked about Superman 2. Obviously it's possible Gunn is referring to this very project when he says he's writing a sequel until he elaborates. It's not exactly clear. But it does feel like the DC
Starting point is 00:07:58 Studios co-CEo has just announced Superman 2. Next up for the DCU is Peacemaker's Season 2, which arrives as August. Next on the big screen, though, is Supergirl, which lands next year. It would make sense to see Supes again in that movie, considering Mal Al-Cocke's
Starting point is 00:08:13 Zor-El is Clark Kent's cousin and she had a cameo in Superman. It's just another thing. We'll have to wait and see on. So, Steph, does this confirm a straight sequel, or does it just confirm, I told you, I'm doing something with him next and it ties into those events, but it's not exactly a sequel.
Starting point is 00:08:35 What do you say? I think it's a sequel. I've heard David Corn Sweat offhand be like, during, I think it was Vanity Fair. They do the lie detector. And they basically asked if he would rather be in the next Star Wars movie or a Superman movie. And he said Star Wars. only because he's already negotiated his Superman 2 type thing. So it wasn't like, you know, it's not like verbatim,
Starting point is 00:09:07 but I think it's pretty much to me it is a no-brainer. Selfishly, I would absolutely love just to go-ahead sequel to Superman. And it makes sense with the reception. I feel like he's really liked as Superman. So why not go with it? but I don't necessarily think that that means though that it's a direct sequel because you can still have corn and sweat on board with all the players and then leading into whether it's again Superman and Supergirl or Superman and Batman and I don't think they'll make
Starting point is 00:09:44 that mistake again but it's something that or I don't think it'll be a full on I don't know maybe it is. Maybe it's something with him and Guy Gardner and the rest of them kind of together doing something, maybe giving Mr. Terrific more to do as opposed to just a straight up sequel to Superman. So you could still be negotiating for a second movie. You could still be negotiating for these other things or your deal could already be done, whatever it might be. But it doesn't necessarily mean it's Superman too. It means the story that we're telling is continuing in this story with other people. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, I do. I think it could be either or I'm not sure. Maybe I do think he's going to be the main character in whatever sense it is. But, you know, I loved Mr. Terrific. I would love to see his own series or movie. I loved that character. I feel like there's so much more to explore. But even if he just has a bigger role in the next Superman movie, it's more like Superman creating. the people he's really going to be working hand in hand with.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I'd be happy with that too. That makes sense. Yeah, and it's just, I just don't know necessarily what it means. We're working on a sequel. He very well could be. And by the way, I'm not married to the idea that it's not Superman to. It could be because the other thing that could have happened is that he started having conversations going, well, you know what? He's sitting there. He's hanging out. He's drinking a cup of tea late at night, sitting next to his wife. and he goes, oh, what if we actually,
Starting point is 00:11:23 that's something I didn't think about before. What if we actually did do a sequel to the movie and we did this storyline? That's what you can do when you're the boss. You come up again, oh, and it is one of those things of don't say anything about what it is or isn't until it is. Yeah. Because if you say, well, it's not a direct sequel.
Starting point is 00:11:43 And then it is, it's like, well, why did you say that? And it's, well, because my opinion changed. That's fair. you know what you wanted to do that's fair but i think he gets he's very much i i am very guilty of doing the same thing when it came to like schmodeown i did it all of the time i would get so excited this idea came out oh we got we guess what we're going to do and i tease it and we're like is that ready go out yeah i'm okay i want to get the audience excited about it they're going to excited here you go and then i go oh what if we actually is that right have you seen mythic quest no but i hear it's
Starting point is 00:12:15 okay season one kind of has this whole thing where where for like three renditions of the game, they've been teasing this big, big, bad character that will change the whole layout of the game. And then they're having the meeting and they're like, I didn't think they would actually care. And they're like having to figure out what the character actually is. He's not known for doing that.
Starting point is 00:12:38 So I don't think he will. But yeah, I agree. He shouldn't do that because especially because people are so down a throat right now. I think he is known for. doing that stuff i think he does it on social media all of the time i think he does it all the time when it comes to like teasing a full movie i mean where he gets excited he announces something and then or or some other thing might come out and he goes oh well well actually it's this and he pretends like it was that's what they all do they all pretend oh no no it's all planned yeah yeah yeah i mean it is the
Starting point is 00:13:11 price you pay for being transparent with the audience a hundred percent that's the problem with being too transparent sometimes when you're out there and he's excited and he's and the guy said are you gonna tease a sequel as i just did so that's more of a confirmation of saying like you know yeah look that's gonna be and and it also goes to what's he gonna do next that's probably what he's gonna direct next because he doesn't work any other stuff he wants to stay in the superman world he wants to continue that tone which i think makes sense i still said though i wish that um he would step back a little bit um as far as directing so he can kind of balance it all and oversee it all But if he's able to do it, he's able to do it.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Yeah, it will be, it will be important to see how Supergirl and the next run movies play out and the kind of like what the greater world is looking like with all the components moving. Right now it's so hard to say because he's just getting started. Right. I'm going to, let's see you, by the way, because you just froze for just a second, but you're fine on, you're fine. Tuesday was the best freezing of Mike's career.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Oh, my gosh, is there a video? Yeah, yeah, like 80, 80 times throughout the stream. Like, the amount of times, it's like, now I don't want it to not freeze. And like, was it getting pissed? Oh, yeah. And we kept freezing on me. We started yelling at Roxy. He's like, how dare you, Roxy?
Starting point is 00:14:35 Yeah, Roxy wasn't even saying, Russie wasn't even saying anything. She was defending. I go, and she's like, Steph wouldn't do this. And I go, Steph laughs at you all of the time. but roxy gave you like a like like the biggest shout out and like was glossing you up for like the whole like it must have been a good five minutes i heard that she filibustered about me so romantic oh she was going off she was she was like uh yeah it was it was a big promo for stuff that's amazing she's a legend it was good um and speaking of which you guys should check out step's channel it's good she's still
Starting point is 00:15:13 putting the thumbnails on the bottom where it gets cut off by the time code. But other than that... Okay, but all of the pictures that I already had, it's impossible to put on the... One of them I put on the top, but everyone else on YouTube is putting it on the bottom. So I'm confused. But who's putting it on the bottom? It's got cut off...
Starting point is 00:15:32 All the main reactors... Send me one. Okay, okay. Send me one so I can look at my phone. It's all cut off by the time code. I can't read it. For sure. No, I'll send it to you.
Starting point is 00:15:43 All right. Anyway. Yours is on the bottom right now. What? What do you mean? Superman 2 confirmed, question mark. It's in the bottom. It's in the bottom middle.
Starting point is 00:15:58 It's very clear, but it is the bottom. I didn't say that at the bottom. I said stretched across the side because if the reason why it's in the middle, if confirmed goes all the way over where you are, then it would get cut off by the time code if you're watching it on mobile. And so I'm saying. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Okay. Well, I'm learning. That's fine. You're doing good. The video, they're really good. Thank you. The video is good. It was fun.
Starting point is 00:16:22 The haircut one is fun. So we got. Do you want to support the haircut? What? Oh, no, because it's so long ago. I'm catching up. Oh, it's long ago. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yeah. Yeah. I thought so. I was like, wait, I thought she debuted that hair on this show before. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's catching up.
Starting point is 00:16:39 That's what I thought. Anyway. Superman. man. Two, is it going to happen? What are your thoughts direct? Do you think it's going to be the second movie? Is it going to be a mixture? It's going to be a combination. What say you guys? Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. All right. Sticking with D.C., sticking with James Gunn. James Gunn also clarified about some new DC-U Canon. That's the other thing that's been really confusing. I think he even knows how confusing it is. But I'll tell you, I think that I like this answer overall. Ahead of the new season.
Starting point is 00:17:12 of Peacemaker arriving in about three weeks on HBO. DC Studios chief James Gunn has once again spoken about his DC universe and what's considered canon. In a one minute clip, he sums it up pretty clearly confirming that the DCU begins canonically with Creature Commandos, then Superman, then Peacemaker Season 2. He adds that anything that is shown in the previously seen recaps during the second season of Peacemaker becomes canon. I think that's fair. In any event that they talk about having happened from the first season,
Starting point is 00:17:42 before becomes canon. I think I dig that. He points out, an example being the death of Rick Flagg Jr. In Corto-Maltese, an event from Guns's suicide squad, becoming Canon afterwards mentioned in Creature Commandos. It's widely expected that all of the first season
Starting point is 00:18:00 of Peacemaker will essentially be Canon, bar the Justice League references and cameos. DCU will still continue with lanterns, Supergirl, Clayface. Gunn previously teased that script for a wonder woman, the film is done with that, the script for the film is done with that project seemingly powering forward. Okay. That guy. Is that Brett? So, what do you make of this? Is it confusing? Not confusing? A little confusing, I have to say. I think it's a little confusing, but I feel like
Starting point is 00:18:35 it's getting more clear. I think it's hard for people who, like, my parents aren't going to watch commandos and that or probably peacemaker and not their sense of more uh i don't know it's like hard to get my parents are movie people it's hard to get them to watch major shows they're like more into like sitcoms if they're going to watch shows right so it's a little tough in that sense but it's making more sense to me like i've watched all of those and i all of them have been good and i'm excited for Peacemaker Season 2. I love that they're tweeting off the accounts of the characters now.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I'm excited to see what that second season's going to do. And I think that he's just trying to figure out because he knows how much he loved season one and wanted to bring those characters back. So he's trying to find a way to fit it into his DCU and he's got to cleverly do that. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:31 you got to make parts of the events of the Suicide Squad, Canon, other things, not. And I think that you said it though. I think that it really is. for the hardcore fans to let them know kind of well this is because if people like your parents and other people who are tuning into the movies it shouldn't be homework stuff for them it should just be oh it is and there are a couple things will fit in i think like we saw in that trailer we know that guy gardner and um and hawk girl are in that scene i think somebody said mr terrific is in it i can't remember but either way you're going to start to see those characters and probably mention events from superman and things that happen from superman leading you into Peacemaker season two, which I think that will bring some people in to say, okay, this is, this is the, this is really like the first continuation of it. I mean, Creature Commandos, I don't know how many people watched it.
Starting point is 00:20:22 You know what I mean? Like it's not, it wasn't as widespread as Superman was, obviously, leading into, you're going to always go film, TV, animated. It's always going to be, that's how it's going to go as far as audience retention. So I, I like that he's explaining it, but I think he's still trying to figure out what and what isn't. Yeah, and I think part of it is that he's so passionate and kind of like how you're saying for the Schmodeon, it's like he loves all of his, these ideas and the projects that he's worked on.
Starting point is 00:20:53 So it's probably really hard and like getting kind of like an adultered opinion on what should or shouldn't be and separate from what he wants. And so it's starting to clear itself up. But I think this first part, like we thought, would be a little bit rocky-ish in terms of timeline in what's canon. Yeah. And as long as they make it to where it's not, because that I'm glad they brought up the Rick Flagg thing because it's like, okay, well, wait a minute. If he if Rick Flagg's son died in suicide squad, does that mean suicide squad is canon? And if so, does that mean, Margot Robbie is Harley Quinn?
Starting point is 00:21:31 Like, is it right? Like, well, no, previous they're going to end up probably in the previously on show, John Cena killing. Rick Flag. That's what they're going to probably show. Yeah. Right. So it's but even that is so confusing. It's like, well, wait a minute. That is canon. But who he's with and who he was with
Starting point is 00:21:50 and those other ones, they might have actually been with those people, but it wouldn't be the actress playing now. It's like, it's a wait, that's when it starts so that that timeline was canon. It isn't just bits are if we show it previously on. It's it's confusing.
Starting point is 00:22:06 That is, especially because there's so many characters in that specific movie. It's confusing. Either way, what do you guys make of the explanation? Is he trying his best? Does it make sense? You think anyone will give a crap? Put your thoughts in there, let us know.
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Starting point is 00:23:45 I hope you guys are checking it out. Use that link in the description. All right, Steph, you got to take out Roxy. Again, last week, Roxy did not win. You had to try to beat Roxy. Roxy didn't win. Winston won it winning last week. Oh, yep.
Starting point is 00:23:59 So this week, you got to beat Roxy and Mike, turncoat Mike, at 133. Um, okay. Start so far. You get 27 already. Okay, guys. Only 23 minutes in. You got a good shot here today.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Let's lock in. Yeah. Um, so let's see what happens. We'll see what happens. All right. Something that did happen today that was a, um, interesting piece of news is that, you know, they're doing the social network part two. And you are a, you're a fan of that movie.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Yes. Oh, yeah. Love it. Well, I think you know. I love Aaron Sorkin. Do you know who? who's been rumored already to be in the second one? No. You're going to love this.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Mikey Madison and Jeremy Allen White, which both of them are going to be in it. So look at that. That's that's that's big casting. Oscar winner, Mike Madison and Emmy winner, Jeremy Allen White are reportedly circling the lead roles and soon to be Oscar nominated Jeremy Allen White if Bruce Springsteen is good. Circling the lead roles in the sequel to David Fincher's 2010 feature the social network. Aaron Sorkin, who won an Oscar for Penning the film who wrote the script, is going to direct the drama that is inspired by a series of articles Jeff Harwitz wrote for the Wall Street Journal known as the Facebook files.
Starting point is 00:25:16 It was tied to the company's own reports on the negative effects that social media was having on teens and kids, how it knew misinformation was proliferating and causing violence, and how it contributed to the 2021 Capital Interaction. Hollywood report reports that no casting offers, been made thus far as the film is still in the development process, but the project is on the fast track. They indicate that Sorkin has already been meeting with actors, including Madison and White, along with lining up a budget for studio approval. If deals closed, Madison would play
Starting point is 00:25:48 engineer-turned-wistleblower, Frances Howgan, who went to the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Wall Street Journal with her information. White would play the former Wall Street Journal tech reporter Harwitz. Sources compare the film to the likes of Michael Mann's 1999 drama, the insider and Tom McCarthy's 2015 drama spotlight. Well, here's my question. Is it the social network too? If Jesse Eisenberg isn't in it or is it just a movie based off the Facebook stuff, why is it social network too?
Starting point is 00:26:18 If it's not in that same world with a lot of the same characters, is Andrew Garfield going to be in? It's like, it's, I would assume that Jesse Eisenberg has to be in it, right? Yeah, I would assume so. And that's a really good point. And I feel like he would want to be in it just because I follow. I love his interviews. I think he's like such a great actor and a really interesting person.
Starting point is 00:26:46 And I love this point of view on the world. And so it feels like he would be interested in it as a. Yeah, Eisenberg's not doing it. Everyone's telling me in the chat. It's going to be Jeremy Strong as Zuckerberg. Then why do social network, too? Just do a different movie. Huh.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Just do a different movie. It's like you can still do a face, the Facebook thing, but why call it social network too? You're going to think that it's the same thing. It's not. It's just another movie based on the Facebook stuff. I'm curious why he didn't return because did they say why in the article? I'll look into it. That's that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:27:22 I feel like he would have really relished in the, um, the opportunity to go into the, the, I don't even know how to describe. it, Mark Zuckerberg's new makeover era where he's now wearing chains and oversized black t-shirts and curling his hair up differently. He's in his style boy era,
Starting point is 00:27:43 which I feel like would be so fun. Jeremy Strong will kill that. Obviously, Jeremy Strong's like such a great in character actor. So it's not that. It just is, it is interesting. I want to know why he didn't, if it's just scheduling or
Starting point is 00:27:59 and then. Well, someone said it, I think. someone nailed it in the comments this is just for marketing purposes to call it social network too yeah it's to say oh it's a recognizable thing we're doing it and the same guy who wrote it is actually directing this one and are they going to have Trent rennesner and atticus come back to do the music i mean you have i mean is it going to be any is anyone going to be in the movie from the first one at all or is it tied in at all or is it literally just to say hey yeah not having zuckenberg what's his face, Eisenberg as him is to me, don't call it that.
Starting point is 00:28:37 If you get him back, then, okay, if he's the only one that comes back, that's fine. You have him come back. But I don't know if they try, if they tried to go out to him, like you said, if they tried to and he didn't want to do it. I wonder. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I'm still really interested in it.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Aaron Sorkin's one of my favorite writers. This story writes itself in a lot. of ways. It's fascinating. It's exactly what I love art to do, which it's like, you know, it's like you don't see Aaron Sorkin necessarily speaking out all the time about the state of the world, but to give his kind of think piece in a movie is my favorite form of art. I think it's so effective. I loved like some of the various points made in Superman in the same way that I'll probably like it in the social network. I just think movies are a great vehicle for showing what. that happened in an artistic way.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Yeah. And I will say this, though, I'm a little nervous with Sorkin directing. Because it's a little more, his stuff is a little lengthier. And I liked Fincher's kind of, you know, intensity behind. And I think that combination of Sorkin's writing with Fincher's directing was really what made that thing magical. Yeah, Fincher's tension is like, Yeah. Yeah. So I'm, but I'm still interested. I'm still interested. I just those,
Starting point is 00:30:07 those factors in it. I mean, but the main story, as we said, though, what gets me to go, okay, one of the reasons I'm actually more interested is because the two people you just mentioned, Mikey Madison and Jeremy Allen White is the two leads. Okay. That's, I still think it should be a different movie, but, or, you know, doesn't need to be a sequel, but I like them. That'll be interesting. Yeah. Yeah, he's probably like, damn, I want that title. It's such a good title. It's exactly what it is. It's because social network, too, whoa, it's a big sequel. It's not a sequel. It's not a sequel. It's the same actor. It's like major league two. Major League two was, had some of the, the, the actors, but when Wesley Snit, I like Omar Epps, but when he was
Starting point is 00:30:53 Willie Mays Hayes, that wasn't Willie Mays Hayes anymore. Yeah. Yeah. I hear you. Yeah, it's interesting. But I'm excited about this new cast. So even if they pitched it with a different name, I would still see it. But the fact that it has the name attached will get, you know, the bigger audience at large involved with it. That's exactly what it is. It's going to be the bigger audience because they said, oh, here's a sequel. Let's do the sequel.
Starting point is 00:31:23 But we'll find out. Guys, what do you make of this? Do you think that it matters that Jesse Eisenberg is back? or not, who cares? Let's call it social network too. We got a great cast. Are you interested? Do you think Sorkin should be directing this? Or should Fincher have come back or they at least try to get them back? What say you put your thoughts in there? I want to know. This morning, Steph, you know, my little one wakes up. It's really the most adorable thing in the world now, right? She comes in and she likes to, she wakes, me up and she taps me to wake me up. Today it wasn't too early, but she'd been waking up early.
Starting point is 00:31:59 and before she goes down to watch, she's asked if she can watch TV in the morning, before she does, she crawls into bed and lays there with me for like 10 minutes. Oh my God. Yeah, and she goes, like I said, I said, amazing. I like when you,
Starting point is 00:32:11 before you go and you, lay down before you, know, she's like, yeah, it's nice. I go, all right. So today, she wanted to watch my reaction to K-pop demon hunters. That's what she wanted to watch this morning. That was her thing.
Starting point is 00:32:26 And I was like, okay, if you want to watch that, we can watch it. That's what we, so we watched. Oh my gosh. Yeah, the reaction to it. And she liked it a lot. You know, she was excited to watch and then she wanted to see a little bit of the actual
Starting point is 00:32:38 movie. She's seen it like seven times. But she's going to be excited today because, I mean, I don't know, you probably have seen this news already. K-pop demon hunters is getting a sequel. Oh my God. No, I haven't seen that. Of course, it's getting a sequel.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I mean, when Luke told me today, he goes, K-pop demon, Demon Hunters are going to sequels. They said they'd be morons if they didn't give this thing a sequel. It's like the highest rated things on Netflix ever. Sony Pictures Animation Films, K-pop Demon Hunters, has been such a runaway success for Netflix. The streamers reportedly looking to develop a sequel and a live-action version. Wow, they're really capitalizing the live action. The rap broke the news and a lengthy report about the film's success, launching to 9.3 million views in its first week. The film's longevity on the streamer has been remarkable with 24.2 million views in week two.
Starting point is 00:33:29 22.7 in week 3, 24.2 in week 4, 25.8 in week 5, and hitting a high of 26.3 and 6 week release. That's pretty insane. Pretty insane. It's the first Netflix original film to reach a new viewing peak in its sixth week. That's pretty nuts. That's pretty nuts. Week 2, 24.2, and then 26.3 in week 5. It has become the most popular Netflix animated film of all time, and it will shortly enter the Netflix all-time top 10 films. Set and soul with dialogue in English, the story follows a trio of K-pop singers whose infectious songs empower them to battle whores of demons. Its popularity has taken the streamer by surprise, but they plan to fully exploit it in the kind of ways Disney did with Frozen. Multiple project ideas are being pandied about, including a stage musical, live action remake series and a pair of sequels. A short film to bridge content between the main features is also reportedly being discussed.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Netflix, which owns all the underlying rights to the IP, so I can do what it wants. It's already ramping up merchandising and plans to partner with the number of outside partners. This is about a big of a no-brainer as you're going to get. Everything that they're doing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Yeah. How do you feel about this? Well, I don't love the live action part. I think there's a magic to anime, and anime fans know it. And if you watch this movie, I think you'll understand, like, the way they eat their ramen, the way the, like, the face explodes when they're, like, feeling high intense emotions. Like, little text will come up. That's just, like, classic anime, and that's part of the magic of this movie.
Starting point is 00:35:10 It's, like, it makes you feel like you've entered a new dimension where it's, like, close enough to how you, like, feel like your life could be like, but different because it's in this different medium. So I would be a little concerned about that. I get it in the sense that it is taking off of like K-pop, which is real. And so I can understand that. And, you know, it probably will work in for some people, but I would be a little bit apprehensive, I would say about that. In terms of a sequel, absolutely, because there's two, the two other main girls, we don't know, we have to explore their backstory. So it's like totally open for that. It's not like there's nothing to explore.
Starting point is 00:35:51 There's two, I left that movie being like, oh, I want to know more about the two besties. Right. We got the main girl, but yeah. Yeah, I agree. I actually agree with all your points. I think that a live action version to me, I think makes sense eventually.
Starting point is 00:36:07 I don't think you put out the first three movies. I think a live show, a musical, live show absolutely makes sense. Yes, yes, yes, yes. The songs were great. The songs were great. Slapped. Still listen to them.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Yeah, I think they're great. I think that you do that. And the other thing Netflix is found by making these original stuff, but they've just discovered a new franchise now. And they made a popular one. They didn't just go off an existing IP. They were able to make it net. It shows you that what the power of streaming can also do.
Starting point is 00:36:42 When you hit the right audience and you get these kind of numbers, then you just built the whole franchise and you can monetize it and capitalize it through. I mean, the first thing we said at the end of our K-pop thing was, there's got to be plushies for that freaking tiger. I mean, there has to be. Right, right. There has to be. Yeah. And dolls for the girls. Like, they're so cool looking. Even me, I'm like, they're like cool. Adults like them, kids like them. They just did such a good job with the animation and the songs. It's like nothing was bad. Like everyone turned in great. work for that and the story itself had a lot of heart and I feel like that's what people connected
Starting point is 00:37:22 to especially adults who liked it because I could obviously get why kids love it but adults like there was something special about how it just the friendship and the heart behind it so I was excited for the writer like this is her big first um obviously at this scale script and it's cool to see you know there are still massive opportunities for new IP new writers newer writers and it doesn't have to be, you know, just massive franchises, getting sequels and thirds and all of this. I agree. I think that when it comes to the idea of what they're doing with this overall,
Starting point is 00:38:06 I think it makes a ton of sense. And I think that they're going to capitalize on it. And they should capitalize on it. But it getting a sequel makes sense. what do you guys say put your thoughts in there let us know k-pop demon hunters you think this is going to be something that crosses over it's going to be a big old franchise it's going to work or should they just kept it at one put your thoughts in there let us know all right let's see we have i think like one other there's some other trailers out there that are running around
Starting point is 00:38:42 but it's a new conjuring trailer i haven't watched yet um we we covered a lot of lot of DC stuff will cover a Marvel story here, which I thought was interesting. And that is kind of some plans for Marvel Post Fantastic Four. Do you see it yet? No, we're seeing it this weekend. Okay. New details on the Marvel's Post Fantastic Four lineup. Marvel Studios, the Fantastic Four First Steps open to 218 million worldwide last weekend.
Starting point is 00:39:13 It's a number that's been seen as a decent start, according to a new feature piece in variety going into Marvel studio slates of films for 2026 and beyond. As one agent notes, the days of consistently surpassing one billion they're over and won't return. Probably true. And what we were just talking about,
Starting point is 00:39:32 stuff like streaming in K-pop and things like that, it's just proven why. It comes down to multiple reasons such as the loss of China's taste for Marvel Fair. Also true. The lasting impact of post-COVIDs cinema-going habits, the absence of megastars in these films and the easy availability of Disney Plus in many markets. I agree with all of that. This is resulting in a new sense of fragility at the company as previously confirmed Marvel will be going with the lineup of younger talent for X-Men rather than A-Listers in order to keep
Starting point is 00:39:58 the cost down. Castings coming soon. July 23rd, 2027 release date has been marked out for an unknown Marvel film, but the trade indicates that will not be taken by the X-Men movie. One place where costs aren't being kept down is Avengers Doomsday, where Robert Denny Jr. and Chris Hemsworth will be getting full pay. Downey Jr. is reportedly earned between $500 to $600 million over the course of seven Marvel movies and three cameos to date. The report debunk's rumors that Pedro Pascalsry Richards is a film central star. sources indicate that he isn't the star but does have an integral role. Finally, they indicate the studio reportedly is feeling no sense of urgency around the Blade reboot or another Deadpool, but they are getting excited about Ryan Cougar's Black Panther
Starting point is 00:40:37 3 with eyes percolating. You know what I want to actually touch on first? is at the end that I understand there's no rush to do Blade right now. They want to figure that out, right? The no rush to do Deadpool 4, I know what they could say. Yeah, we did, we did, you know, one of them and it did really well, but we're focusing on everything else. Do you think that because of the, you know, the little stink that's on Ryan Reynolds right now is keeping Disney going,
Starting point is 00:41:03 let's just focus on something else right now. We don't want to deal with that. I mean, it's hard to say it's not because I do think, Disney has proven time and time again that they will kind of go with star power and popularity all the time and you know just go with kind of what the fans are looking for and what they're responding to regardless of conference traversing no I'm saying so that matters so if you're have a little stink in your name then I would say that they're not it's not that they're against him or another Deadpool because
Starting point is 00:41:43 you know people still like him he's still a great actor Deadpool did Wolverine did amazing in the box office and was really well received so for all those reasons those are good points and fair points to bring up for continuation and for their bottom line which is all they care about really
Starting point is 00:41:59 at the end of the day is how much money it will make but when you're also assessing that there's a full argument about you know like what I they'll probably wait until like the next box office movie he does and see if it is actually affecting his star power. Well, he's going to show up in the Avengers movie.
Starting point is 00:42:18 That's a definite. For sure, but I'm just saying as like I would be curious to see what a solo, like, you know, like a non-marvel Ryan Reynolds starring movie, how that is received right now. For definitely, yeah. And I think so that's, it makes sense to me that and they, if it's not really where they want to focus in on them, they're trying to tell this overall story and focus on the X-Men. Make sense. Like, focus on those things first.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Get that brand up there and get out of this multiverse thing. Yeah. We all knew that Doomsday and Secret Wars are going to be some of the most expensive movies ever with every single person in the world in the film. So, of course, it's going to be expensive. So that makes sense. The stuff with Downey, I saw people posted today that he's going to make like, I don't know, 60 million for the two movies or whatever it is and maybe more or 80 million maybe
Starting point is 00:43:09 for the two movies and people are. are saying, you know, some people are complaining about it. It's like, what are you complaining about? Like, what are you complaining about? Like, Downey- Caird- Who cares? But it's, Downey hasn't earned that? I saw Roka's post.
Starting point is 00:43:24 And a lot of times when Roka tweets, I start to sweat going, oh, no, what's he saying now? But like, I agree with everything he said. He said, this guy was integral to the whole thing. And he was like, he was the star of the show. And he did, he did so much overall that, And the excitement is coming because he's coming back. Whether you agree with it or not,
Starting point is 00:43:45 people who still don't even, I don't necessarily know how I feel about him coming back as doom, but I know I want to see it. He's coming back as an Academy Award winner, new award under his belt too. Yeah, it's weird, I think, when people get. He's not getting 80 million each. He's not making 160 for both.
Starting point is 00:44:04 He's doing 80, 40, 40. Yeah. For this character. Yeah, yeah. And then the other point of the article is that they would be going with newer actors for the X-Men. I think they should, regardless of their budget. I think they absolutely, like X-Men is a great opportunity for new actors to make their name. And it kind of feels more X-Men, you know, like they're the outcast or the, like, you know, the weird ones.
Starting point is 00:44:31 And you don't really want to have like this old, like, very well-known pretty-face person. No one knew who you Jackman was when he was at. Right. Nobody knew who he was. I want that. Yeah. It's like you get the bigger known stars. Well,
Starting point is 00:44:50 the same way that you did it in 2000. You get, you cast Professor X, you cast Magneto, you make those two, your stars, and then you build off of them around, I mean,
Starting point is 00:45:02 and you build around them. Look, I had this conversation actually with, as I was talking about with the director for my show. Martini and I are playing the two lead characters, right? We realize that to like a Netflix and Apple or whoever is, we've got to build around us because they don't go, who's that? I mean, no, that is.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Who is that? Right. Build around. And that's the same thing that you're building around the X-Men. And you got to do, and you give the, and what it does, it does lower your cost. It lowers your cost to say, okay, we're going to get these new actors, and we can not only lower our cost for a movie, If we lock them in for now,
Starting point is 00:45:41 we can lock them in at a lower cost for, you know, because an actor who's looking for the break, we'll sign on for six or seven movies. And then it's after that seventh movie, that's when the big bucks come with. They still want them. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:45:52 Yeah. Yeah. And bringing up K-pop demon hunters again, I believe the three main girls are all like when you go on like their Spotify pages. This is like their first music that at least some of them have. and they don't have that many credits. So it's like no one, if you, if you pull people by various, whatever way you pull them in and then they're in,
Starting point is 00:46:20 it doesn't matter at the end. Like, it doesn't have to be super famous, super IP. Like you just need like just enough to pull someone in. Right. It's true. They don't really care. Right. So, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:35 We will see what the few, future holds, but put your thoughts in there, guys. Let us know how you feeling about all this stuff. Downey returning, everything. Put your thoughts in there about the MCU. I said, I'm going to go with an uh-oh story for the last one until we get to the questions. Okay. An uh-oh story.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Okay. Masters of the Universe star Alison Brie suggested live action movie may be just as campy as 80s cartoon. Uh-oh. Bad news, at least for me. I think that's, this is another, this is another thing that I'm starting to get upset with this movie. In a new interview, Masters Universe star Alison Bray counters the perception that the upcoming live action movie is going to lean more serious than the 80s animated series. Forecastle, he says last year, we got word that Amazon MGM and Mattel's live action Master's Universe reboot had another major cast member with Allison Bray, said to take on the role of the villainous evil Lynn. as her name suggests, evil Lynn is a wicked and powerful sorceress who serves as Skeletor's
Starting point is 00:47:37 Second in command. Lynn was played by Mac Foster in the previous live-action movie and was voiced by Game of Thrones alum Lena Heady and Netflix's Master of Universe, Revelation, animated series, which added some new dimensions to the character. Brie has some experience playing a cartoonishly evil villain thanks to her glow character's wrestling persona, Zoya, the Destroyer. While promoting her new horror movie together during an interview with lighter, Breer was asked about the perception that this is take on the message university
Starting point is 00:48:06 to be more serious in tone in the classic 80s anime series and that responded with the following. Who said it's leaning more serious? I don't think they know as much as they think they know. That's all I'm going to say. Though he didn't actually use the word serious, the person who had suggested this movie wouldn't be quite as camp as the 80s cartoon was Bruce co-store Nicholas Galizine. How do you pronounce his last thing? Do you know? No. Look, what I will say is our version is quite different from the original animation,
Starting point is 00:48:37 which we all agree was camp with in its own right, works so well for the time. For what it's worth, the website 4.orgne.com has heard the movie is definitely not as campy as a cartoon, but doesn't take itself too seriously. Either think Guardians of the Galaxy. Okay. Masters universe also the other than that. All right. I'm getting, I don't know what, I don't know what to think of this movie.
Starting point is 00:48:59 This movie, I've never been as stressed for a movie as I am for this movie. Yeah. The movie itself, I don't like the fact that he's going to Earth. He's on Earth. He's there. I know that. Binds the sword, goes back instead of just making him on Earth in the first place. I mean, on the attorney in the first place. Okay, fine. And then it's like a lot of the misconception is that this movie has to be like, the cartoon because that was what the best lure of it was and it wasn't there was it was originally intended as a Conan the Barbarian kind of counterpart and it started one of these comics and then it turned into this 80s kind of campy thing which I loved by the way but it was it was it was a product of
Starting point is 00:49:51 its time and if you did that now it would almost come up like a spoof if you tried to make that a live action movie but when they mention a guardians of the galaxy approach to it. If they can hit that, and Travis Knight certainly could. I don't hate the potential of it because you don't want to get into a dark night version of He-Man.
Starting point is 00:50:16 You just don't want to do that. You want it to be, all the certain characters and Murman and other people that they have. It's got to be fun. So you've got to be able to mix it. But if she's saying, who says it's not, can't be like the original? I'm out.
Starting point is 00:50:32 I'm out. I'm like, it's, the security guards are cracking jokes left and right to he me on and then bringing, oh, whose sword is that? Uh-oh,
Starting point is 00:50:40 blah, blah, I was like that kind of stuff. I'm like, oh, no. Would you describe the first one as campy? The,
Starting point is 00:50:48 the piece of shit that came out with Dolph Lundgren? Or what is she referring to the anime? They're referring to the 80s animated show. And would you just, it was campy? Yeah, of course it was. Because I find that a lot of people misused the word
Starting point is 00:51:02 can't be. So I'm just curious. It's but like I said, it's a product of its time and it's it's got like a it has an 80s filter. I love it. I love the music to it. I love it. But it's goofy. I mean, it's goofy. What's so silly
Starting point is 00:51:20 about it also is this has nothing to do with the camp out element of it all, but just they only had so much budget for that show because if you look at Prince Adam, he's just as jacked as he man is. And he's not wearing glasses like Superman. He's just wearing a different shirt.
Starting point is 00:51:35 And he turns into Heemann. He's just a little bit more, you know, he's got more of a tan. And he's, Prince Adam's pretty jacked in that show. It was, I always mentioned the 2002 version. To me, that's, that's the best version of the lore of Superman that we've ever, of Superman, of Heeman that we've ever got. That's the best, that's the best story overall and tone.
Starting point is 00:51:56 But we'll see. We'll see. God, stuff you're going to say? Oh, no, yeah. I'm just, I as a new, like, I'll go into it. Yeah, like I'll be fresh when I see it. So I won't, I'm curious what I think of it in general. Yeah, I want to, I want to know.
Starting point is 00:52:14 I want to know what you think of it because it's, um, I like Allison Bree a lot. I did you. I like the majority of the cast. I like the majority of the cast and who they got to play, um, everybody in it. It just, I just, if it's, if they can capture a Guardians of the Galaxy one, or three tone
Starting point is 00:52:34 for this movie, then I'd say that's an appropriate tone for this movie. Yeah. I'd say that's appropriate if they can do that. But I don't know. Last thing, I'm going to jump back to Marvel real quick because I was so confused. I'm going to talk to Koi about this tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Coy had mentioned on some short that they had announced Moon Night season two, and I'm like, where do they announce that? I haven't seen that at all. he's like yeah they announced it last week I don't know where on the short and I'm like where did what happened like where did they do that there is no season two of moon night coming I don't know where we're quite got that from but I'm going to talk to him about like I said tomorrow but uh Oscar Isaac is talking about potential Markspector return he said maybe we'll see him in a movie which makes sense that's me makes way more sense rumors that a second season of moon night might be in development have been doing the rounds for a while but it doesn't seem likely that more episodes of the Disney Plus series will be coming our way anytime soon. So it was not announced. Although this doesn't mean we won't be seeing Mark Spector
Starting point is 00:53:38 and his other pet personalities in the MCU. Shortly after the first season aired back in 2022, Oscar Isaac appeared alongside EP director, Mohammed Dajib, in a TikTok share by the latter's niece, who asked if we're going to get a second season of Moon Night, and he said, why else would we be in Cairo, Isaac replied. Fans took this as confirmation of the show would be back at some point, but nothing ever came back of it.
Starting point is 00:53:59 and Marvel's television Brad Wanderbounder shared a disappointing update when speaking to comicbook.com about Dareda but born again. So I think Marvel television has happened in a wave. I think Moon Night happened in a wave of shows where we were going to establish characters that would tie into the future. And moving forward, our priorities have shifted. We're making shows as shows that can exist as annual releases, more like television. He did add that there are plans for Moon Night down the road. However, and Isaac has now hinted that the next time we see his character will be on the big screen. He's asked about a potential season two during a recent convention appearance.
Starting point is 00:54:33 And he said, we'll see maybe one day or in a movie we'll see him return. So what the hell was Koi talking about? I don't know what he's talking about. Has Koi addressed that since? Because even Greg was like, when I saw the short, Greg was like, wait, they announced that? He's like, yeah, it's randomly out of nowhere. He just came out and said they're doing season two. No one said that.
Starting point is 00:54:54 I wonder if he got like an insider and wasn't supposed to. I don't know. I'm going to ask him tomorrow on the show, but I was, I've always said that, like, Koi sometimes will, because Koi is so good that when he's talking and he's like, he's, he says things, he's so definitively, he could say to me, you know, I, Christian Rolov is of a Latino descent. Yeah, he's a Latino descent. And I'm like, I am.
Starting point is 00:55:20 I mean, wait, no, I'm not. But he tells, but he sells it so well with everything that he says. And so I don't know if he, I don't know where that came from, but tomorrow. But anyway, being in a movie, that makes more sense. Yeah, for sure. I don't even remember what happened in the series. Like, I would have to fully revisit it.
Starting point is 00:55:41 And I don't even know, was it well, I can't remember. Was it well received? It was during the pandemic time, right? I just watched it again with Sam recently. And I really, I really liked the show the first time I saw it, really liked it. This finale just ate it. It did not stick the landing. The finale was bad.
Starting point is 00:56:00 The pen ultimate episode, though, was fantastic. And I stand by still one of the best episodes of Marvel television to date. So good. Problem is didn't stick the landing. I really enjoyed the show. I really liked what he did. I actually liked it the second time around almost the same, if not better. But it didn't get super.
Starting point is 00:56:20 It wasn't super well received. It was like people thought it was like, cool. And then let's move on. Yeah. Yeah. I kind of remember that. Yeah. So what do you guys think?
Starting point is 00:56:30 You think that he's going to be back in a movie? Not at all. I mean, there's 8,327 characters coming back in Doomsday and Secret Wars. So you would assume he's going to come back one way or another, yes? Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. Steph, all right, here we go. So we are going to, first of all, I want to see and make sure that you're not getting screwed at any super chats that came in.
Starting point is 00:56:56 because sometimes stream yard does that. So let's double check the first one. If the first one isn't, I'm going to go all the way to top. But while I look, why don't you plug your new channel and tell people what's going on? YouTube.com slash stuff's the bra. I've been dropping videos Tuesday and Thursday. This Sunday will be my first live stream.
Starting point is 00:57:16 So we'll just hang out, talk about the shows or any questions that you guys have. I'll be there at like 5 p.m. PT. and today I'm dropping another episode at 2 p.m. Pt. So just like shortly after this show finishes. And yeah, thank you for all the support and the comments so far. I really, really appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:57:40 I'm responding to all the comments. They're making my day. So please keep them coming if you're watching it. I want to see who's there, who I can rely on. Awesome. So we check out Steph's show. It's a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:57:54 All right. You ready for this stuff? You got 38. Okay. Good start. You need about, if you can get just a little under 100 from the, for a little more than a hundred more than you can beat Mike and Roxy and come back and get back to that perch. Jamma, greetings from down under. Greetings.
Starting point is 00:58:18 Jamma, thank you. Greetings. Uh, Jamia says, I never get to participate due to Aaron. at 4 a.m. here. Wait. And why am I awake? At least I can get stuff on the board early. You did you did exactly that, Jamest. So thank you. Yeah, thanks, Jama. James is not done. All right, I'm going to use this one chance to push back on the Faloni I'm listening to all year. Brace yourself. Okay, so James James, James is going to get a ton of stuff of philoni. But Connor jumps in quick. Says, come visit the field of dreams. Drinks on me all night.
Starting point is 00:58:48 For real of them. You guys make my afternoons of work. Much better. I appreciate it. Thank you, Connor. You crack us up. Thank you. All right, here we go. James is going to start. Firstly, for context, I've had a beef with that man since the Clone Wars days, but I think he's copped way more criticism than he deserves this year. Star Wars is in the gutter because of JJ, Ryan Johnson, Kathleen Kenny, and the rest of the film staff, not because of the TV guys. TV shouldn't need to save Star Wars. Now, should Volone be the head of Lucas film? No. He's not a film producer, and he's moved too rapidly through the ranks, skipping him. important development phases. For example, Polone has never worked in a writer's room. Instead,
Starting point is 00:59:28 his writing skills come from Favro, more of a film director than a playwright. But Connor Mollis jumps in. Jamma, I agree that TV shouldn't need to save Star Wars, but at the same time, it also shouldn't drag it down further like it's been. It needs a lot of big wins to rebuild both TV and film wins. To point by Connor, Jamie comes back. He would have benefited immensely from learning in the Andor writers room and from Gilroy instead of being promoted too early within the company. Right now, you're saying everything that we've been saying. You're not really arguing against it. You're kind of going with everything we've been talking about.
Starting point is 01:00:03 Connor Molley. Andor was great, but you need more than just one win. James says, I'm loving this battle between me too. It's amazing. Filoni and Favs give Kathleen Kennedy a soft landing with Mando after episode nine. agreed. It's Kathleen Kennedy's fault that she squandered that. TV stuff has always been a band-aid for a larger problem. Not just. Pheloni had a lot to do with Kenobi and other things, too. It wasn't just Kathleen Kennedy on that. At the end of the day, Flonney is copying a lot of blame that should be spread around a lot of other people, past and president, Lucasfilm.
Starting point is 01:00:39 I don't disagree with that, but he still deserves a lot of the blame. Connor, what should I need my dog? I want to go back to a lot of that because to even put so much in there. James is saying everything that we say here, stuff. He's literally saying everything. It's like, I don't think he's getting all of the blame, but like he is the right now, A, the creative head, and B, the guy they're looking to be the creative head of that entire place. He has proven that he should not be.
Starting point is 01:01:09 And do I disagree with you that all of those names you mentioned should share blame with him? I do not disagree with you. I agree with you. Of course, Kathleen Kennedy should get blame. Of course, JJ and Ryan Johnson should get blame for people not caring about those movies. And they haven't done a movie since 2019. Of course. But when you're going to be running that and you're in the room and you're in, you have certain things.
Starting point is 01:01:34 And I've heard things. And the fact of the certainty he doesn't think is Star Wars or feel or he's acting like a gatekeeper. And when you act like a gatekeeper, when you have and when you don't have the goods to run, the whole thing in the first place, then you're going to get a lot of the blame. So I do think he catches his fair share. And when you're the person, the head-create a person, people are going to come after you when this stuff's not working. And if you listen to like, Rod Roka had heard too, there was a lot of stuff that notes that he had talked about on Acolyte that he doesn't get any like push back on because he doesn't have his name in the credits.
Starting point is 01:02:13 So I do think that he deserves a lot of the blame, not all the blame. but a lot of it. Steph? Yeah, I think that, I mean, that's, he is kind of the go-to. So it's not that I think he deserves any like bad things coming his way. But it's like that's the responsibility that you bear when you are in a leadership position at a company. That's why in the same way, Kathleen Kennedy, it's like when you that that is part of the job. you do have to bear the responsibility of the criticism. So it's not necessarily that I want to be getting all this criticism,
Starting point is 01:02:52 but it is part of the job. Like things aren't performing and being well received by the masses. You know, I'm not saying that they're awful, but in terms of pushing Star Wars forward while he's been in a position of power, hasn't moved forward. And he didn't really have much to do with Andor. So that's not really an argument in his favor, unfortunately. It's not.
Starting point is 01:03:14 like I said, I don't know how it feels about the second season and maybe now has come around on it because it's getting actual, you know, people are saying it's the best Star Wars stuff that they've done. Like, maybe since, you know, well,
Starting point is 01:03:28 definitely since Rogue One, which you also, Tony Gilbert was had, all the stuff that is considered some of the best Star Wars since Disney took over is all Tony Gilroy stuff. Yeah. And I, and this I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:41 This I don't know is where I'm, I'm confident enough to say that I, do feel like he doesn't love Knights or Republic. He doesn't love at least the first season and or. But what I don't know, and this is purely speculative, is whether or not it chaps him that the stuff that he does and that he feels his Star Wars is not beloved in the way that and or has been with the fans. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:04:05 Yeah. Yep. Yeah. I'm curious. I'm curious. And they're not, you know, in the same way that Andor was highly recognized in the Emmy nomination. Yeah, it's like quality television.
Starting point is 01:04:17 And that's for the second season. Right. Both seasons have been recognized. Quality television. One and two of Mandalorian, very fun Star Wars shows. I mean, there's no doubt that I like them very much. Me too. But that's really, they're quality Star Wars shows.
Starting point is 01:04:34 And there's quality television all the way around. And they haven't had that. And like with Hannah, we talked about this on the show yesterday, myself and Chris Carr, it's like, you don't you don't learn and then you go oh i'm not doing this show until i finish all the scripts why are you writing all the scripts get other people who actually know how to write television and write dialogue and not just animated dialogue what what are you doing and it's going to be the same stuff uh Connor mullis what should I name my dog I like F-14 Tomcat sure why not call him T-Cat yeah call him T-Cat joey pedris members meeting yesterday was great it was
Starting point is 01:05:13 It was so good. They gave me so many great ideas. Joey gave me a ton of great ideas about what we're going to do because, like I said, this is going to be an ambitious goal to try to get this thing going. And some of the ideas was that at a certain tier, you could be an extra in one of the scenes, on the scenes, videos from cast, you know, certain little things. And by the way, people who are in the audience right now, whether you're watching live, whether you're watching on the replay,
Starting point is 01:05:40 especially in the comments, give me any ideas you think for when we run this Kickstarter, like things that you think would be interesting and intriguing because we want to make sure that we run this thing, like we want to get it to a place where with the assets that this particular director has, we could really do something special here. But we've got to, you know, we've got to raise the budget.
Starting point is 01:06:04 And for what we're aiming at for a television pilot stuff, it's significantly cheap. It just sounds like a huge number because it's, it's a huge number. Yeah, yeah. Because if you look, most television shows for a full season are, the numbers are astronomical because of the cast and stuff, you're going to, but we're going for a pretty big number.
Starting point is 01:06:23 We'll see, fingers crossed. I really want to make it. So I feel that with the passion and everything behind it, I'm hoping that the audience wants to see it too. Yep. Big Bang OT4. Ryan Gosling as Luke's estranged son sets out to find Ray to train his force sensitive son, Luke's grandson becomes a future of Star Wars.
Starting point is 01:06:40 they're not going to go anywhere near the Skywalker stuff. They're not going anywhere near it. Because the problem with that, yeah, go ahead. I feel like that's been like so said and done by so many different actors and creators within Star Wars that they're done with that right now. So, and I feel like for them to move forward, they should, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:05 they should establish themselves with other stories and characters. Yeah. And the problem with that story, line, Big Bang is this. If you do that and you and the Luke's grandson becomes the future of Star Wars, you're right back to where you were. Now you got to have, now it can, can it survive without the Skywalker's? You've got to come up with characters that are not linked to these people. You got to see if they can survive without them. Doesn't mean to ignore them, like when you're in that era, if you're going to spend that much time in that era, don't ignore them. Like,
Starting point is 01:07:37 have, like, play with those characters. But let's Let's not do that right now. Let's move on and establish something else. Jamah, now that I've said that, let's see how season two turns out, I assume. He's shown as a TV director and ability to improve his skills as he gets more experience. I'm curious to how much the ones that he did, because I will say this, Jamie, because I've said this before, there are quite a few episodes of Mandalorian that he did that I like a lot.
Starting point is 01:08:04 There's quite a few that he did that were really good. I don't know if he wrote all those. was somebody do the the research on that and see because I'm not sure if he actually is it the same kind of scenario with like Tyca where it's like hey okay
Starting point is 01:08:21 I know what I want to do and where I want to put this but I'm not going to write the whole thing I don't know right yeah I don't remember either I'm not sure okay let's see boom or bust is the three director
Starting point is 01:08:39 trilogy structure doomed to fail, even if you have the story written. I think it's about finding matching directing styles, ghost stuff. It's not doomed to fail. Yeah, go ahead, Seth. It's not doomed to fail, but I don't think it's necessarily set up for success because directors are the most, they have to know what they want. You know, the most important thing I think for a director is to be completely confident in their vision and their vision is so individualized by who they are and how they are as a director. So to me, it's like it's already kind of on this shaky ground because no two directors are the same unless they're like fully collaborating with each other. And maybe there is
Starting point is 01:09:29 some sort of give and take of like, you know, you collab, you did the first one, your collaborate. And you know, we've seen it with like Harry Potter with, it's not a trilogy, but they have multiple directors and for multiple phases in the story, I think it actually really worked, especially when they got more adult theme like as opposed to the first two. But I think for the most part, it's preferable to have a singular vision. I'm not, I'm not there because I'm more about the collaboration effort in the same way that you look at like, because television is new directors every every every sort of seems like, right? And you look at Mandalorian. Like, they've had like some, a lot of the film directors in that first and second season and they,
Starting point is 01:10:13 they were, but you went and you look at the behind the scenes that they did, they were all on the same page, like you were saying, on the vision of where it was going. So if you know, if, if, if Ryan Johnson, Colin Travaro and J.J. Abrams would have all been in a room together collaborating going, okay, look, you're doing that thing. That's going to lead into my movie, which will then lead into yours. I'm setting this up. I'm setting, they didn't. They, they were, they were rogue. free agents, you know, mercenaries that were doing their own thing and didn't really care what was set up or what wasn't. And if and if and then when JJ came back, I don't like what that guy did.
Starting point is 01:10:49 I'm going to do this. Yeah, Luke's back. He's in the four. He's a force ghost now and, and he's doing this instead. And they, they weren't on the same page. So it looks sloppy. It looked like there was, there was no plan. They didn't look like they, they even had, they didn't even know what was, what was happening. That's where, as we were just talking about before, Kathleen Kennedy says, look guys this is I need my creative people we're going to have this big huge idea of where we want this thing to go and then we bring in the directors that are going to execute that vision and and add a lot of their own creativity to it but we're going to start here and we want to end here not well we'll do the first movie and we'll see where the second one lands that's ridiculous for
Starting point is 01:11:28 a trilogy ridiculous but yeah but if you have a plan that that was like if you have a plan you can execute it with three different directors Yeah, yeah. I think it's just like that's kind of the example of how it can go really wrong. Yeah. Okay, let's see. Big Bang, should Grogu eventually become Jedi Grandmaster? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:57 You ever going to hear him talk? Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think so. You don't think we're going to hear him talk? No, no, I think we're going to hear him talk. but I don't, I feel like part of the allure of, I mean, it would take a long time for at least me as a viewer to take him out of being like the cutest thing in the world to being like something that's like the leader. Right. I think so too. We also got to find out how he survived. Yeah. Yeah. Steph now is your turn to filibuster about Roxy. Okay, there you go, Steph. Okay. Well, first of all, the greatest Bostonian, and I think she soon will be known as that as she continues to have her star climb in Hollywood. I will be at the Hollywood Walk of Fame when her star is put down there. And hopefully she'll give me some few minutes of a speech so I can do a second filibuster for her. She is one of those like rare people that's like so talented and hardworking. And the
Starting point is 01:13:03 best friend in the world. Like she is the person that will do anything for you at any time of the day, even if she feels like shit. I know that she's been feeling like shit for the past few weeks, like just dealing with different things. And she still shows up everywhere. And it's like, who does that? Like she's such a star. So when we're at her like first mega movie premiere, just know that I was blowing smoke up her ass and stay one. Okay. I want it on the record. Yeah, all right. She's the best. Roxy. And she's and the most loyal. person you'll probably ever meet in your life. And we need to make like all
Starting point is 01:13:37 her scripts. You guys haven't seen her scripts yet. She is such a good writer. You think she's a good actress and she's just as good of a writer. It's amazing. Oh, she watches enough TV. She knows how it works. Jima. Also, Flonie abandoned the volume in Cali and is off shooting season two on location soundstages in the UK. That's, that's promising. That is a sign to me. He knows he needs to step it up. I did not know that. I'm going to actually look. Let's see. Soka Season 2 shooting on location.
Starting point is 01:14:11 This is the first I've heard of that. That would be amazing. Is that true? Let's see. Soca Season 2 has begun primarily in the UK with some scenes potentially utilizing Long Cross Studios. The move to the UK marks a shift from the previous season's filming location.
Starting point is 01:14:27 With Lucasum, reportedly, not having any current project to film in Los Angeles, but that doesn't really say. The video discusses the use of real sense. sets, no. Oh, yeah, they're using real sets and filming locations for Asoka season two. Okay. Okay. That's promising. Good for him. Like I said, if, it shouldn't just be a negative criticism on somebody when they do something right, if that was the decision and his decision to shoot on location, maybe looking at Andor and saying, all right, maybe maybe we got a little too reliant. And to be fair, one of the reasons I got really. lying on that volume stuff is because of COVID. Yeah. Yeah. And because I, you know, I can completely understand the appeal.
Starting point is 01:15:13 Of course. It's cheaper, cheaper and you don't do anything. Just throw everything in the back. They'll use it and they should use it. But don't overuse it. They overused it in season three. They overused it in a lot of that stuff. In other words, it was so clear that it wasn't real anymore. Yeah. Yeah. And it was like, I get the excitement of it in the same way, animation is so amazing because you can kind of create these sets that you can't do in real life with the same budget. So I understand why he went for that. But some of them like with the witches and stuff, it just was like so like theatrical in a weird way. Right.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Okay. Let's see. The next one is screwface John. yellow diamonds look like whoever knows the rest of this line of where it is from deserves everything in life L.A. Anyway, shout out to Christian and stuff. Thank you, screwface,
Starting point is 01:16:10 screw face, scroface the man. Do you know where it's from? No, yellow diamonds. I tried to cheat. Like, I couldn't even bring it up. Key. Screw face, you're going to have to give us a reveal. Yeah. Let's see, but that was great to,
Starting point is 01:16:26 now I'm going to be wondering what the hell that was the whole time. But thank you for your stuff. Did I get that right? I said P. I think it's P. What is it? P. The yellow diamonds look like Pee Pee.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Oh, okay. From where? What's that from? I think it's from a song. I was like, I've heard it on TikTok. I think that's what I was in like the re-crepice of my mind. It might be it.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Okay. Support for Steph from Corned Emperor. What is your order for Captain America, Brave New World, Thunderbolts, Superman, and Fantastic Four. As movies, now what they do? As far as movies, as far as how we enjoy them?
Starting point is 01:17:00 Um, I'm going to say, and again, this could, my one and two could change once I rewatch them. But as of today, I'm going to go Fantastic Four, Thunderbolts, Superman, Captain America, Brave New World. Wait, wait, say yours again. Fantastic Four, Thunderbolts, Superman, Brave New World. Okay. I haven't seen Fantastic Four. So I'm going to do the other three right now. Superman Thunderbolts Captain America. Yeah. Yeah, Superman's fun.
Starting point is 01:17:35 I liked it. It's just, it's goofier than those other movies for me. And, you know, I'm not a big, a little too goofy. But I liked it. But I mean, clearly, I talked about how I thought it was a, it was a feel good movie. Mike's movie madness. I know Gunn said we won't get the DC of Batman until his standalone movie, but we're also, but we also weren't going to get a direct Superman sequel.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Exactly. over under 30% Superman 2 will have a DCU Batman debut cameo. I don't know if it's a debut. I don't know if it's going to be a debut, but do I think you'll have a cameo in that? Yes, I don't know if it'll be the debut by the time it comes out. You're probably not going to get a Superman sequel for at least two or three years.
Starting point is 01:18:14 So you would assume Batman will come out before then. Yeah, yeah, I'm completely with you on the answer. I think absolutely Superman 2 will have Batman, is my guess, as well as other characters that we're going to be seeing in their own projects or yeah I feel like maybe we'll get some new introductions but not with like the main Batman Supergirl
Starting point is 01:18:38 Uh Jama Anyway I'm giving Faloni the benefit of the doubt that he'll continue improving If Assoca season two and the Mando film sucked Then I'll turn on him too um well Mando he's I mean he's not directed that one Now the question is he did here's the question that you just gave me The Asoka news that they're doing locations if Mandalorian is doing that, the Mandalorian Grogu,
Starting point is 01:19:01 if they're doing that, that's going to change the production significantly instead of just doing, you know, volume stuff that Mandalorian has really relied on. That would be big. But I mean, he'll have a role in the Mandalorian,
Starting point is 01:19:16 but Favro's going to be the one that's responsible for taking it to the finish line is he's directing it. Yep. Yeah. But Asoka season two has to, that was one for me. that I can I can definitely say that I think I was drinking the the optimistic Kool-Aid on that one.
Starting point is 01:19:34 Because when I watched it initially, the first two, I thought it was cool. I was watching an animated film again and watching it kind of come back. And I was excited to see that how it was all playing out. And I thought Baylon was pretty great. It gave me kind of prequel vibes a little bit. And then when I was trying to do a rewatch of it, I was like, this is pretty bad. I need to rewatch it. it's pretty bad when you when you rewatch it it's written terribly and i and i and i try to convince
Starting point is 01:20:02 myself otherwise the first time around um bonsai brandon after south park used ai for a fat beach trump would you say that some use is okay as long as creatives are still paid for having the smarts to use it wisely i i think a use ai in general is going to continue to be used it's just and more and more so that was the point of the strike was I think that they realized smartly they went okay look we're not getting away from this we're not getting away from we need to negotiate it into our deals because it's not going away it's not a matter about you can't use it it's a matter of how do get paid when you do use it and that's what you need to do because it's going to there's there's more and more that is going to be coming out my friend does AI stuff like videos and things too
Starting point is 01:20:51 about like, and he keeps sending them to me. They're getting better and better. Every time he's creating things, he's creating news reporters, reporting on the street, and I'm starting to not be able to tell what's real and what's fake. I almost wrote him the other day and said, well, wait a minute. Is that footage that you intercut with AI?
Starting point is 01:21:08 Or because I can tell that's AI, but he's like, no, the whole thing's AI. So I think eventually they're going to do things that people are just, especially as the generations go on. There's going to be more. I think, I think that, yes, I think people are just going to get paid more to use. And I, Steph, remember these conversations we had before even AI?
Starting point is 01:21:27 We're like, eventually they're going to be able to like put people in those movies and get, you know, a full generated movie of a young Bruce Willis and a diehard movie. And if they're able to capture the actual, because right now the voices are so, says like, hey, how's it going? Yeah, everybody, I am here. Sounds just like me. But I have a robotic voice and I don't really have a lot of motion. That's still that's that's that's the difference between like being able to see it and not know, but you can hear it and go oh there's no sounds like a robot when that changes they're gonna start doing like full-on movies. Right. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard to I the South Park episode like really made me feel like America is healing. So it's hard for me that I like I'm afraid of AI and creatives. I'm not I'm in I'm afraid of AI in terms of like what the limits are, of course, but I do think it's stupid not to understand that it's a part of
Starting point is 01:22:26 life now. So we have to kind of go with it. And I just hope that there are nice, like, good regulations in place and ways that we can control it so it doesn't get out of control. That feels like an impossible ass. But that's kind of where I'm at in it. I thought that South Park did it really, really well. Yeah, they did it really, really well. So let's see, next one. After that, Steph here, 43, 43, fighting. Fighting. Can we do it? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:22:59 Missing score 44, I'm really confused. The Suicide Squad only happened because the original suicide squad characters like Harley and Boomerang. If the suicide squad is canon, doesn't that make the original canon? That's what I'm saying. It's like, well, only the previously on. Only the previous one. Yeah. That's, it is confusing.
Starting point is 01:23:17 I'm with you. Yeah. So, um, but I don't even think most people, I don't even know if the general population knows the difference between those two. Like really, we're such a bubble. I'm, I'm not. That's what it is. Yeah, the general, they don't. It's people like missing score and me and you who are going to be, well, wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:23:40 What is what does that mean? Yeah. It's confusing for us, but I don't think they really, they really care. Tyler B. I'm learning from the Peacemaker podcast that the plot and events in past Gunn, DC films are canon, but dialogue is not. Do you think a lot of people are going to rewatch season one? I'm telling you, I think it's just a matter of letting Gun know the things he wants to use and doesn't want to use. It's all it is.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Yeah. And it's just like, basically it's a conversation of just like in the same way Floney doesn't give a crap about like the books, you know, in Star Wars. He's going to go, look, this is what we want to use. Deal with it. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and if he executes it, then it's like all of us will probably stop asking.
Starting point is 01:24:24 Right. Um, okay. Let's see. Next one after that right now. Again, Tyler, thank you for that. But I got to check out that, that podcast. Uh, Liam Martin. Hey, legends.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Absolutely love your work. Thank you, Liam. Been a fan since you didn't get a time to sniff a camel and sex in the city too. Much love from Australia. That's one of our favorite reviews of all. Have you heard that story? No. No.
Starting point is 01:24:46 I think it's live on the on the Shmodown channel. I think I think we made it public. It's one of the few movies we walked out of Mark and I. We were in the theater and we were like 2010 and I had like a one of those flip phones or whatever. And Mark left. We had done a double feature that day. And Mark left during one of the scenes and to go to the bathroom. And I'm like, after a little bit, I'm sitting there just watching this movie going, oh, my God, this is brutal.
Starting point is 01:25:23 And I'm by myself and I'm like, where the hell is this guy? So I'm like, is you right? And I check my phone by my, and what I do is I never do the phone in the theater because I'm not, I'm not that person. No, I hate it. I bring it down to my leg to my shoe. So I blind, so the light doesn't get anyone's face. And all I read is Mark Ellis's text, it goes, get out of there, man. get out of there.
Starting point is 01:25:48 It was brutal. Brutal movie. I don't think I saw the second one. Brutal. First movie was fine and the series is good, but that was just brutal. Okay. Brutal, thank you for that memory. Luke TG11.
Starting point is 01:26:05 I liked Superman, but I hated Lexus speech and then A1, A1, A1. I saw Fantastic 4 twice. I love the music and the tone. 60s era is perfect. Lax's school is F. I agree. I didn't mind. Lex's speech. I just like I just wish because Nicholas Holt they did a little bit more with them,
Starting point is 01:26:20 you know, because he was, but he's such a fantastic actor. Um, but yeah, I was more, I was more engaged with the overall story and characters in Fantastic Four, which is surprising. Yeah, yeah, I'm really, I've been excited for Fantastic Four. So I'm sure I'm gonna love it. I'm looking forward to seeing it this weekend. So I can kind of see how I received both differently. Superman worked perfectly for me. It was exactly what I needed. I loved it. And part of it's like watching it with my mom is hard not to love it.
Starting point is 01:26:55 Of course. That's a nice memory too. Liam Martin, have you seen talk to me and bring her back? No, I hear good things about them, though. Do you have you seen these stuff?
Starting point is 01:27:03 No, no. I'm hearing really good things about both. Okay. Feel like you would rate the story directing and acting. The directors are from my hometown in LA. that's that's great no i you know i hear i've heard that it's terrifying uh at least uh talk to me i've heard really good things about them but i've never i've never seen them no i yeah so tina and i today after
Starting point is 01:27:26 today's show we're gonna actually reacting to to um barbarian never seen that movie before so durina made me watch it it's really good but it is crazy crazy so we're gonna want because the director has a new movie coming out weapons which is coming out and i'm going to see that next has like 100% right now right? I think so. Granted, there would only like 12 clocked in reviews, so that's hard to say where it's going to actually land, but
Starting point is 01:27:56 yeah, it's at 100% still. Okay. 13 reviews. My screening is on Monday for that one. Excited for it. Tyler B. Which MCU phase four and five films, I think everybody's up for even paying attention.
Starting point is 01:28:13 to face four and five once three was over. Do you guys think what benefited from being an alternate earth like fantastic four? I think all of them. I like R&B's theory that all these things do take place on on different universes. I don't think that's the case. But, but yeah. I think that a lot of them could have benefited from being not tied into the main storyline. How about you stuff?
Starting point is 01:28:39 Yeah, only because I feel like a big question is like, so where were they during? this like in the same like with the eternals like they had to spend the whole movie basically describing why they weren't there during end game so i think it's you know it creates more freedom if they're on a different planet or a different dimension yep um okay let's see after that one it is arm v step what are some good examples of camp okay for movies um horror in comedy obviously do it the best probably like death becomes her or honey i shrunk the kids or the chucky movies um space balls you know that's i those are like the ones that come to mind i feel like just just off the top of my head rocky horror picture show that's a good one
Starting point is 01:29:37 that's a good one um yeah go pal i'm not super concerned about it being can as long as this is not dog shit like the canon films 87 movie i don't see how you play any of them straight outside of he mantila and duncan yeah i don't agree with that i just i guess because i'm just so attached to it and i've seen i've seen how you could do it like you can you can you can definitely play them straight and make them um in that you know science fiction magic kind of thing i i just think people that's the problem and i think that's what happened with the filmmakers too that's like well the original 80s thing was can we have to make it a bit silly and um i love go pal so my guys in here every day contributing with great stuff i as
Starting point is 01:30:17 luke skywalker once said i fundamentally disagree with with that um yeah like stranger things is in the 80s right um stranger things was in the um was based in you mean the movies the show is the show is based in yeah well i don't maybe i heard the point wrong but but it's like, I don't think that, because it's in the 80s, it has to be like, no, no,
Starting point is 01:30:45 he's talking about the Canon films that came out. Oh, okay, okay. Oh, got it, got it. There's a production company,
Starting point is 01:30:51 Canon that made those kind of movies. GoPel. Also, wasn't a surprise that Tila was adopted. I think it was a surprise, the sorcerer was her mom. I think that was the big surprise. I think that,
Starting point is 01:31:04 I don't know if right away if they, if we knew that man in arms adopted her, though, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Go pal, how do you do that with Idris and Camilla Mendez? Well, that's the whole point, is that you can, you can, you don't have to make it a surprise that she's adopted. The surprise, again, is that she's a sorcerer's daughter.
Starting point is 01:31:24 So that's, that's it. It's raining pretty heavy out there right now. Sean McCabe, will Sam be up to speed with Fantastic Four by next week? No, she's been sick. So we won't even be up to speed with Agatha. I don't even know if we're going to, I don't even if she's going to be, have seen Agatha by the time that we get in. there because we were supposed to be wrapped up with the MCU two weeks ago her schedule has been insane that's why today happy Gilmore came out Monday was was
Starting point is 01:31:50 Tokyo was Tokyo was was K-pop Tokyo pop is well I was like what's Tokyo you remember do you remember Tokyo pop that old that's cool anime the anime company that's what it's the K-pop Tokyo oh yeah so I don't know but either way Um, so the next movie will, yeah, see. And then Monday or Tuesday will be barbarian and hopefully we get back on track with Sam. Um, but she's, she'd be back soon, hopefully. All right. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:32:21 Next after that. And we are at 47 thus far, Steph. Okay. It's a 133. I don't know. Brandon. Brandon was in yesterday. It's great to have him in the members stream.
Starting point is 01:32:41 Floney-style gatekeeping is the last thing the Star Wars needs. Not that he doesn't have his place in creating, but we need someone who's willing to adapt some EU stories. Darth Bay and Knights for Republic, have it open mind. 1,000%. The problem is that Lucas wasn't a fan of that stuff either. And because Lucas wasn't, well, then Dave's not allowed. And it's so silly.
Starting point is 01:33:00 So silly. Yeah, I feel like the shackles of the question, is it Star Wars? Is it not Star Wars? Is it holding Star Wars back? Right. Because in no other big franchise, you, of course, it's in the air. You want it to, you know, have the lore and an affection for what came before it. But it's not, it's only in Star Wars, at least for me, that I feel like it is so, such a weight on creators.
Starting point is 01:33:32 And we didn't see it in Andor. and I felt like it was an homage in a lot of ways, but it was different. And I feel like it's because it didn't hold itself to like asking every question of, is this the Star Wars that was the original Star Wars or not? Like that seems to be only, and I don't know if it's like a Faloni pushed narrative,
Starting point is 01:33:54 but it is like, man, just create stuff within the lore and it doesn't need to be like so spot on to the exact feeling and memory of the original. Let's make good stories. That's what it always is. Yeah. Go pal, they call them pissed but weren't moving any units.
Starting point is 01:34:13 What was that connected to? Oh, is that the new, it's the new clips album, right? With Pusha T and Malice, I think. Yeah, I think that's what this is about. Oh, beautiful girls. Biggest beautiful girls fan. Oh, oh, oh. Dylan brought Mirosarino, Champagne Diamond.
Starting point is 01:34:30 Oh, there you go. Okay, that's a good, that's a good movie. Go, pal, but I don't know if that's what screw, where screwface was going. I doubt screwface was quoting beautiful girls, but maybe, maybe I'm wrong. Yeah. Um, let's say, Jama back, surely, sure, it's mostly on Favro, but Flonie co-wrote and produced Amando film film. It'll be a good test for improvement and his first film credit. Agreed. I agree. I don't know. Yeah, we got to also see how that's going to be pan out, by the way, with, um, his, that movie he was supposed to do. So. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like it's, um,
Starting point is 01:35:06 been pretty quiet in Favros. I feel like I went from hearing Favro all the time to not hearing or seeing that money, things that he's coming out with. So I'm excited to see the movie. All right. Let's see. Eric Opperman. What's up, Mother Raps? What's up, Eric? I've been watching since 2015, but I can't watch because of work. Hope Steph gets the win. Welcome back to New York, Christian from Connecticut. Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you. I love that. Um, awesome.
Starting point is 01:35:36 Nathan Drake. I've got an extra 100 this week. Can we use it to bring back Schmode out? No, but you can use it to a Kickstarter when a Kickstarter comes out. You're lucky, Nathan. I'm being nice because normally anybody that's keeps asking about bringing it back. It's putting timeout. It's kidding. Oh, really? The new rule. Just, I'm just kidding. I put Alan Smithy in timeout the other day by accident. We're trying not to hold Star Wars back. We can't hold Christian back. He needs to move forward in his life. That's right. But what Nathan, what you can't, what you guys can do is anybody who puts in the next question. If you have an idea about what we should do for that freaking Kickstarter, let me know,
Starting point is 01:36:10 because I'm going to need all the support. And like, I'm never, I'm never going to have to, like, lean on what you guys want more than this. I'm putting everything that I have into this. Uh, tribal chief. I don't think the DCU canon thing is that hard. Everything after creature commandos is full on canon. Anything before is what they mentioned or reference. Okay. For you, for a lot of people, it's going to be pretty confusing. I might use that summary in my mind anytime I get confused. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:45 Big Jay, your Tina's happy Gilmore reaction was great, brother. Thank you. My friend Mike actually just wrote me, said he was watching it while we were live, and he said that he was watching it too, so I'm glad people are enjoying it. Tina and I had a good time watching that one. So go check it out. Thanks, Big J. I appreciate you looking at him.
Starting point is 01:37:04 Jima, anyway, my point is, well, I don't think he should be running Lucasholm. I don't think Poloni should be thrown back to animation, at least not yet. I think that's where he thrives, though. I think where he thrives, and then where I'll throw you a bone there also, is he going to be content if he's not running it to just direct, you know, someone else's script, because if he is, then you sure let him do that. He just should not have a power seat.
Starting point is 01:37:26 He just should not have a power seat. Yeah. Okay, Connor Mollis, breaking news, another ice cream truck break at work. Oh, nice. That's good. Yeah. Well, Brandon says, I feel like if you're a good creator, you can recognize a great story regardless. Yes, he's right.
Starting point is 01:37:47 If you and your mentor think it should fit into canon, all due respect to them, Floney hasn't topped Knights of Republic of Bahrain, right? He won't, but he doesn't agree with you on that. He thinks the stuff that he's done has surpassed that stuff and has better stories. and that is not factual. Asoka's storyline is amazing. I do think that, but I hear you. Like, KOT, uh, KOTR and Bain are both great stories.
Starting point is 01:38:15 So it's hard to say. Like I would love to see renditions of that, but they're not touching it. Right. Um, let's see. Nathan Drake, hyped for weapons and your barbarian reaction. Yeah. I'm excited for both. Julius,
Starting point is 01:38:33 do you like the social network? Yeah, my favorite Fincher film. It's not my favorite Fincher film, but I like it a lot. Yeah, I love the social network. I don't know what my favorite Fincher film is.
Starting point is 01:38:47 Maybe Gone Girl, maybe Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, not sure. There was yesterday when we were signing off, Crashin Coyote put one in there, but it was taken after we signed off. He says, from my experience, I'm not big into Star Wars. After Acolyte, I didn't bother with Outlaws or Skeleton Crew.
Starting point is 01:39:10 After and or Season 2, me and my friends got Battlefront 2. He's talking about 4. Okay. Yesterday we were talking about like games. And so one of the things that the outlaws game, the creator blamed the not success on, the fact that Star Wars is a brand was not in a good spot when it came out, but I don't know how much weight that carries. I think that I just, I told you when that's, you played it, right? You liked it,
Starting point is 01:39:39 you like the game? Yeah. It's really fun. Yeah. Yeah, it is really great. I like, we really liked it. You know, maybe I'd give it a, I'd give it a chance. Yeah, you kind of need to give it, like a few hours, honestly. Yeah. I have to give a chance. I just, this trailer just, this trailer just, did not do it for me and failed on it yeah um all right so right now step as we're about to sign off 53 unless they want to keep you going um but if not we're going to sign off at 53 i will say our good friend saul i can't believe we're at the where we're at the perception of phlone now yeah it is crazy because like i said like you know it's been i was a massive i was a massive fan of his but you know it's like the same thing it's like hey i'm so excited at this coach that we got for the team
Starting point is 01:40:28 Coach comes in second and the last place 10 years in a row. I'm like, man, I don't like that coach anymore. Right. Yeah. Big J. Random, simple question. Interesting. Any interest in reaction to the godfather.
Starting point is 01:40:41 I know you've seen it, but maybe you're with your wife, Sam or Tina. So the answer to that is yes, my wife has not seen it. And we have talked about doing that. It's just, again, her schedule is just as wonky.
Starting point is 01:40:52 And especially with the kids being out of school, it's tough. And Sam's definitely seen the godfather, I believe and I and I if anybody if anybody has seen them out of the three it's definitely Tina Tina seen the most movies have them so I have to check but I'm working on other things to do have you seen you seen a godfather right stuff oh yeah it's like my favorite movie okay okay oh right right right um you didn't you yeah in the past I yeah yeah like fully recently right okay okay Brandon Summers don't want to make it seem like I don't like a soaker clone Wars or
Starting point is 01:41:24 mandolarian I love all those things for sure no I know you do but you're But you're in that same boat, man. You're in the same boat of like, hey, let's, you know, something's got to change. Because you're a massive fan. Right. I hear you. My friend's a big Star Wars guy. Jamah, I mean, do you think that creators like Gilware are gleefully hoping to adapt EU content?
Starting point is 01:41:45 I grew up on the EU too, but it's niche, depending on what the story is. Not all EU is niche. There's a lot of niche stuff, but not all of it. You can adapt it. And even if it's not just the EU, the, for, some reason they ignore all the stuff that they have i mean kathleen kennedy was on record saying well we don't have the luxury of having you know uh other things outside of just the movies we have a full on library of books and other things um and there's tons of it and they have really good whether it's
Starting point is 01:42:17 claudia gray um Alexander freed uh james um i was going to say pure for you uh james losino uh So many writers that understand Star Wars that can help craft story. It doesn't mean they're good screenwriters. It could be terrible screenwriters. I don't know, but they know Star Wars. Right. Adapt their stuff. At least a story for sure.
Starting point is 01:42:42 Yeah. 100%. All right. Let's see. Next one after that is Nathan Drake. Steph's Insta has been on fire. I love Roxy's solo segment, just hyping Steph up on Tuesday. Yeah, it was. It really was. She was like your agent. I need to go see that. I love her so
Starting point is 01:43:02 much. She's literally the best. Um, thank you. Yeah, I honestly took like two years off of so. I mean, I posted here and there like every few months, but it really was off of it for like two years. Honestly, it's like the world news was a little too much for me. And I was trying to find my balance in the world of like, uh, you know, just fitting into it all. So I'm like trying to be like, I can spread joy and love. That's what I can control. And then in my own time, I'll stay informed.
Starting point is 01:43:34 But I like your channel and your Instagram, what you're doing is you're really just being you. It's really what I like about it. It's like for people who are watching Steph's channel, it's like you just get an insight of who she is as a person. And the fun things she does, if she looks at life. And that to me is,
Starting point is 01:43:50 is interesting. Minus the thumbnails. Yeah, we're working on it. We're like, but hey, like, no,
Starting point is 01:43:57 I'm so appreciative that Christian's so honest because I need it because I am so new to it all and it really is like the business behind YouTube, especially for people like you and me who want to stay authentically ourselves. Right. But there's a business to it. So it's like, you know, like this give and take of like how much you work on the image of it, but keeping yourself. Yes, exactly. 100%. Last one for now. Jema coming back.
Starting point is 01:44:26 Jama crushing today. Having said that, Jason and Jaina are way cooler than Kylo and Ray. I don't know what, like, that's the whole point. Why didn't they just adapt that story? Why didn't they just take the Jason and Jane's stuff? I don't get it. Like far superior. They blew it.
Starting point is 01:44:42 All right. I'm going back to sleep. Good night. Thank you for. Or any of the vision stories. Like, honestly, there's like five vision stories that I would be like right now, just go create a pocket of the universe and make that a live action. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:57 exactly um all right so 58 not quite 133 but solid performance is always though yeah thank you all right tell the people where to find you youtube dot com slash stepsebara i'll be dropping a new video in the next hour so turn on your notifications and thanks for supporting there you go guys thank you uh apple podcast potify potify Sure, Potify. Potify. To get piss or whatever you want to piss on. Spotify, anywhere, podcast, for it.
Starting point is 01:45:33 Make sure you check that out. Check out. Friends over at Rougiette. If you want to help out the show, that's how you do it. I'll have more news. Please in the comment section again. Didn't see many in the live chat, but I hope to get some more ideas from you guys as far as what you think would be interesting
Starting point is 01:45:49 inside of this Kickstarter once we run it. Put your comments in there, whether it's on the, again, the replay, the clips channel, whatever it may be. I saw someone yesterday who said this, said, timestamps, can you do timestamps? I said, look, if you want to do the timestamps for me, and you want to, and I'll cut and paste them put into the description, I clearly have no time to do that right now.
Starting point is 01:46:11 So what I can do is give you that clips channel. So head on over there if you want to see the clipouts of this show. All right, guys, thanks for being here. I appreciate you very much. Seth, this one's for you. Bye-bye. Ready or not, summer is coming, and Wayfair's Memorial Day clearance is on now. Right now through May 25th, get up to 70% off everything home at Wayfair.
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