The Kristian Harloff Show - James Gunn DC Studios Deal Extends To 2027! What Does This Mean With The Netflix Merger?!
Episode Date: December 8, 2025Huge industry news is shaking Hollywood as James Gunn's DC Studios deal is officially extended to 2027 — but what does this mean with the growing buzz around the Netflix and Warner Bros. merger? On ...today's episode of The Kristian Harloff Show, we break down what this massive extension means for the future of the DCU, Superman, Batman, and the entire slate moving forward under James Gunn and DC Studios. We also dive into the political side of the industry as Donald Trump weighs in on the Netflix–Warner Bros. deal, a move that could dramatically reshape streaming, theatrical releases, and studio power structures involving Netflix and Warner Bros.. Box office news is heating up as the "Five Nights at Freddy's" sequel surges at the box office, showing just how powerful horror gaming adaptations have become in today's market. On the tech side, IMAX is making waves as the studio claims the new "Narnia" movie is set to "change the world," while also unveiling new IMAX technology that could allow for 3-hour+ epic films without sacrificing quality. And DC fans won't want to miss this — the "Supergirl" trailer launch has officially been teased, giving us our first hint at when we may see the next big chapter of the DCU on screen featuring Supergirl. If you love movie news, DC updates, box office tracking, IMAX technology advancements, and the future of streaming under possible studio mergers, this episode is packed with everything you need to know. ✅ Topics Covered James Gunn DC deal extended to 2027 Netflix Warner Bros. merger reaction Trump reacts to Netflix-Warner deal Five Nights at Freddy's sequel box office surge IMAX says new Narnia will change the world New IMAX tech allowing 3-hour+ movies Supergirl trailer launch teased ✅ Hashtags #JamesGunn #DCStudios #DCU #Superman #Batman #Netflix #WarnerBros #NetflixWarnerDeal #StreamingWars #IMAX #Narnia #FiveNightsAtFreddys #FNAFSequel #BoxOfficeNews #Supergirl #SupergirlTrailer #MovieNews #HollywoodNews #FilmIndustry #TheKristianHarloffShow #DCNews #MarvelVsDC #IMAXTechnology #EntertainmentNews SPONSORS: PRIZEPICKS: Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/KRISTIAN and use code KRISTIAN and get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! AURA FRAMES: Exclusive $35 off Carver Mat at https://on.auraframes.com/KRISTIAN. Promo Code KRISTIAN CASH APP: Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/76rlxe00 #cashapppod Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement. Promotions provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit https://www.cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. RAYCON: The Essential Open Earbuds are here for the holiday season and they're selling fast. Raycon audio products are up to 20% off this holiday season. Go to https://www.buyraycon.com/KRISTIANOPEN to save on Raycon audio products sitewide. Order by December 15th guarantee delivery by Christmas because great gifts shouldn't show up late.
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We got a mega show today.
Like a mega show with so much that's going on on Monday.
I mean, there's so much.
I don't even know we're going to get to it all.
There's so much.
So the main thing is that, as we said,
we know that the big deal came through with Netflix and Warner Brothers.
But we also said it's not going to be that easy.
And now Paramount is making an aggressive,
an aggressive stance to try to get,
the company still.
They're going for a hostile takeo.
We'll discuss that.
What's going to happen?
It's been a lot of conversation about it.
In the meantime, James Gunn, Peter Safran, had their contracts renewed.
So what does that mean?
Is it mean anything if Paramount winds up getting it still?
Will Paramount get it?
Did Netflix have any interest at all?
Was it all a big coup just to say, look, we know we're not going to get it,
but it's going to freeze out our competitors for at least a couple of years.
There's award stuff. Critics Choice Awards nominations came out.
The Golden Globes came out yesterday.
Who was the frontrunners?
The box office was huge this weekend.
Zootopia is almost at a billion dollars in week two.
Five Nights at Freddy's said, shut up, idiots.
You don't think we're going to make $25 million opening weekend?
Well, we did.
We made $70.
How you like that?
So there's so much, so much going on in general this week.
And this is a Supergirl trailer coming out.
That already, that's another one that's coming out soon.
I didn't even hit the intro yet.
So it's me and John Rokey here today.
I'm by myself in the intro, but hopefully you're
okay here in a second let's do it welcome back to the show everybody i hope you had a great
weekend um and man oh man this is pretty uh pretty nuts in general and i saw my good buddy
ed harrell keeps sending me the the boy's trailers he's like look at the new trailers like i
haven't watched the last season i don't watch this trailer um but people are hyped about it so that's
good then you know over the over the weekend man like i said there's so many different things
we're going on this weekend.
The Critics Choice Award nominations,
the box office.
A lot of stuff going on.
So,
what is going to happen?
Now, I'll probably bring this point up again
when John gets in here, but
here's something interesting that I read.
I can't remember who sent it to me,
but it was an interesting thread
when it came to the whole Netflix
buying Warner Brothers.
Now, the theory,
of this particular thread was, and I'm not saying this is factual or not, just a threat,
but it's an interesting one. And what it said was, okay, Netflix never really had an interest
of acquiring Winter Brothers, and they still don't necessarily think that they will. They think that
they will probably get the big X and DOJ and or else to say, no, not going to happen. And they
were aware of this. And they never even really had an opportunity, a thought of that even doing
it, but they wanted to freeze out
Paramount for a bit.
And they saw Paramount getting into it, so they wanted
to freeze them out of it. So they accomplished that.
The other thing that they accomplished by doing this, again,
a theory, is that
their number
one streamer in the world is Netflix.
Number three is HBO Max,
Amazon being number two.
So what they're able to do is
say, okay, you know what we do?
Let's put a bit in. Let's get it.
And even if we get shot down,
it's going to take a good year and a half
two years to
for them to either approve us or we get
shut down. We get it. Great.
Makes a lot of sense.
We'll be in good shape.
But if they say no to us, we have frozen out
HBO Max and our
competitor for a good couple,
for a good two years now.
Before I even get into that, I'll bring in my
co-host here today.
John Roca in the house.
Hello.
Good morning.
Good morning.
So I was just saying what a crazy news day.
I know already.
Already with all the stuff that nominations between Critics Choice Awards,
the Golden Globes.
We've got this stuff with Paramount now.
We've got,
there's so much box office was crazy this weekend.
Supergirl trailer coming out so much to discuss.
So what I just mentioned is, I don't know if you saw this theory.
I thought it was a very interesting theory, and I can't remember.
I know I saw it somewhere in X.
I just don't remember who said it.
No, but it might have come from the Ancler maybe.
It may have come from there.
So it wasn't just some random person.
It was like it.
It was interesting.
Okay.
And what it essentially said was that Netflix never really had any intent of buying.
Oh, yes.
Right.
This was over the weekend, yes.
Right.
So the intent was, okay, well, look,
Let's, we know that Paramount's going for it.
Let's, let's go against them.
We don't, we're putting in the price.
We'll drive up the price.
We'll do what we can do.
And then we get it.
Great, but we probably won't get it because they'll probably shoot us down.
But our competitor in Max will be frozen now.
We'll be able to make shit for like a year and a half, two years.
While you're under acquisition, you can't do anything.
You can't make deals with people.
So they'll be frozen for a little bit.
So if we get it, great.
If not, our competitor is frozen for a little bit.
Any merit to that?
I think there's a way to read that and see that as a possibility in all.
of this but i mean how much were we going like netflix needs to take down water brothers like no
that wasn't something that was a prevalent narrative or storyline before all of this blew up so i think what
they saw is an opportunity to elevate their brand elevate their reach within the halls of
hollywood and they went for a massive studio here now i don't think the idea i don't think what they're
doing if because especially with paramount launch in the hostel take over bid this morning we're going to read that in
a second yeah yeah um i don't think that what they're doing here is trying to undercut warner brothers i think
what they're doing here is trying to announce their um presence and that they are growing as a power i mean dude
10 15 years ago we were getting DVDs and sleeves at our house they're like i mean there would be a major
studio yeah i know it's massive so yeah i mean there should there might be an element of truth to that but i think
that's more of an indirect result or intention as opposed to a direct intention right and well
The point is that what they say is, okay, look, it's not that we don't have an intent to buy it.
Of course we do.
If we get it, great.
But we're prepared that if we don't, our competitor is going to be screwed here for a little bit because they didn't.
You just can't do anything in the meantime.
So it's a win-win for us, right?
I think it was more of a battle with Paramount.
They didn't want Paramount to control.
I think that's a lot of it.
Oh, especially.
And, you know, oh, sorry, Skydance control Paramount and WB.
That's a massive thing, you know.
But what I also say is massive is that we can agree that this is that by part, most, you're on the outside of it, but my, but it's a very bipartisan agreement that not a lot of people want this to happen.
Like the Netflix deal or the Paramount deal in general.
I don't know about bipartisan.
I think the, well, how's this?
I think it's bipartisan on both sides.
I think they're Republican Democrats.
That's what's what I'm saying.
I think it's bipartisan in both sides.
So it isn't like bipartisan for WB to get.
get it, I mean, for a Paramount to get it and not Netflix to get it.
No, no, I think it's my person that nobody wants anybody to get it.
Right.
Nobody wants WV to sell.
I think that's the number one.
Right.
Right.
I think that's what you're getting at.
I agree with you 100%.
I think people prefer WV.
Didn't sell.
But Zazlov was not hired not to sell this thing.
He was always hired to sell this thing.
Of course he was.
That was his goal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Paramount has accelerated it by feeling themselves and going for a bid here.
Yeah.
Well, let's talk about that.
Let's talk about this hostile takeover thing because this was, this is crazy this jump
because, yeah.
We'll see.
Here's the story here.
Paramount launches a Warner Bros. Hostel takeover bid.
So, David Ellison's Paramount Skydance isn't backing down in its efforts to acquire Warner Brothers.
Today, the studio announced has commenced an all-cashed tender offer to acquire Warner Brothers Discovery for $30 per share.
The proposed transaction is for all of Warner Brothers Discovery, not just the studio and streaming division spin-off, which is what Netflix has entered a binding agreement to acquire for $72 billion.
enterprise value of 82.7 billion. Paramount says its offer equates to an enterprise value of
108.108.4 billion, including assumption of debt, announcing the hostile takeover bid, Ellison says in a
statement by a variety, one of the shareholders deserve an opportunity to consider our superior
all-cash offer for their shares in the entire company. Our public offer, which is on the same terms,
we provided to the Warner Brothers Discovery Board of Directors in private provides superior value and more
certain and quicker path to completion. We believe that the WBD Board of Directors is pursuing an
inferior proposal, which exposes shareholders to a mix of cash and stock and uncertain future
trading value of the global network's linear cable business and a challenging regulatory approval
process. We're taking our offer directly to shareholders to give them the opportunity to act
in their best interest and maximize the value of their shares. Paramount said,
Warner Brothers Discovery shareholders can find additional information about Paramount's proposal at stronger hollywood.com.
According to the press release on that site, the offer is backstop by Paramount's well-capitalized principal equity holders, the private equity firm, Redberg Capital, and 54 billion of debt commitments from Bank of America, City and Apollo Global Management.
The release makes no mention of Middle Eastern funds like Saudi Arabia's PIF, which is reportedly on earlier news bids suggested were involved.
Is there again, I guess the same question I asked you about, um, you know,
know the theory about them holding out, you know, not holding out, but just putting this in there
going like we're freezing out of our competitors. Any merit to this and any chance that Paramount
still gets Warner Bros. I think there's always a chance because you're dealing with big boys.
And as I posted and tweeted out this morning, you're dealing with a lot of money and you're
dealing with money from people who have connections to Trump. And we know Trump said it last night at the
Kennedy Center that he is going to approve this thing, whoever gets it, one way or another. And so
which is, of course, putting your finger on the scale.
I think the Ellison's have an in with Trump.
They're apparently reportedly sitting next to him at the Kennedy Center
and probably rubbing his knees and everything that make him feel better.
And so they want to try to figure this out.
But Bloomberg report over the weekend that Serendos visited Trump a few weeks ago
and started to repair a relationship and make a connection here.
So I think the hostile takeover bid is an angry dork, a nepo baby upset that daddy didn't
that he didn't get what he wanted and he's trying to get daddy's money and all this really
questionable money from the PIF fund from China's 10 cents that like there's a lot of corruption
involved in this that are backing the paramount bid so for all the all the all you liberals and progressives
and creators and all of this just know that this is who you're getting in bed with if you're
supporting the paramount bit and so this is the stuff that you have to look at here so I think yes
they absolutely have a chance because Jared Kushner is the president's son-in-law he's behind the
paramount bid. He's one of the people behind the paramount bid.
And I think their coziness with
Trump is there. But
this idea that they are somehow the easier
path to acceptance is utter
nonsense. And they're pushing that narrative
because Serendus has made it clear. And
President and Trump praised
Serendous yesterday.
Why call Serendous?
Sarandas, what do you want to say? I don't know. I don't know how he
says fucking name. Ted. How about that? Teddy.
Call him Ted.
Netflix Ted.
They're basically.
They're praised Netflix. Ted.
and and you know so I think both of them are bigwigs I think both of them have connections to Trump
and both of them can make it happen because as it's been proven many many times Trump likes a winner
he doesn't like to back a loser so if he thinks Netflix has the winning hand he will go with Netflix
even over the Ellison's pyramid well there's a continuation to that and and so Trump actually weighed
in on the Netflix Warner's deal and the Ellisons may not get to play the Trump card after all
Yep. Trump addressed the proposed Netflix purchase, asked what he thought of the deal. He praised Ted Sarandos, as I was saying, and didn't seem committed one way or another about the deal. He said, well, that's got to go through a process and we'll see what happens. Netflix is a great company. They've done a phenomenal job. Ted is a fantastic man. I have a lot of respect for him, but it's a lot of market share, so we'll see what happens. They have a very big market share. And when they have Warner Brothers, you know, that share goes up a lot. So I don't know. That's going to be for some economists to tell, and I'll be involved in that decision, too.
but they have a very big market share.
The streaming giant proposal included a $5.8 billion breakup fee
and promises to maintain one of those current operations,
including theatrical releases,
should the deal get through the heavy regulatory scrutiny
you will have to undergo.
Asked about Sarando specifically.
Trump confirmed this morning's report that he recently met with
the Netflix exec ahead of the deal.
He said he came up.
He was in the Oval Office last week.
I have a lot of respect for him.
He's great.
It's great person,
but he's done one of the greatest jobs in the history of movies and other things.
He's got a lot of interesting things happening,
aside from what you're talking about, but it's a big market share.
There's no question about it.
It could be a problem.
Trump also confirmed that they had not discussed any potential guarantees in the case in the
mega merger.
Deers,
the deal is expected to close in 2060.
Yeah.
So I think this kind of cement what you were just saying.
And I also think it shows why Ted Sarandos is in the position that he is.
He's a very, very smart person.
He knows.
He knew.
Listen, we are good.
if we're going to get this, I'm going to meet with Trump.
I'm going to meet with him?
I'm going to talk to him?
We've met him before.
It's business.
And so now, because if he didn't,
and he was talking shit about him and all this stuff too,
that would have been a very different article that I just read.
Of course.
And you need that,
because we can all agree,
Trump is very good in the PR side of things on how to, you know,
promote things, get things out there.
I mean, we know that.
you don't want him not on your side, especially in a deal like this.
Yeah, no, you got to be smart.
And it's clear that, you know, in my opinion, the man is very corrupt and he will make the
decision.
You have to play to him.
You have to give him phony medals and phony awards like FIFA did over the weekend just
to please his ego.
So Sarandos understood that.
Whereas past presidents, you haven't had to do that.
But here you have to do that with this guy.
So Sarandos has made the, sorry, Netflix 10 made the move and went over there and met
with him and got that thing squared away.
So, and as I said, I think Trump loves a winner.
That's why him and Mom Donnie met each other in his, in his White House, because he won.
Mandani won.
And so you see that throughout that that's the kind of guy he is.
And the fact that he's complimenting Netflix like this and complimenting Ted like this shows
you that he has respect for what Ted has done.
Because the thing is, at the end of the day, this is what happened.
A young kid came into the situation thinking because he had daddy's money and he had daddy
Trump's attention that he could just bully his way into getting what he wanted. But Ted is a very
smart player in Hollywood now, completely outmaneuvered him in every way in this and got the job done.
And this idea that he thinks he's going to appeal to the board, Zazlov would be a moron if he hadn't
brought this proposal to the board because this proposal that they're pushing now is essentially
the same proposal and not pulled the board and got their true feelings about what the deal is. Because
the board has to only, only 20% of the board has to vote against the Netflix deal and call it a hostile
takeover bid or to stop it. And I would be very surprised that a man as intelligence, David Zaslov,
did not poll his board honestly and know that the 20% could not be reached, no matter what
paramount. Yeah. I don't know. I still wonder what's going to happen down the road here,
whether or not because the fear, the two things, the fear of what it means for Netflix to take it
over in general what could happen for theatrical
and those things could play a part
in this. But the other thing
I think that to me
made sense of why Paramount was going to get it over
Netflix was
what they mentioned and that was
we are making a bid for the whole
kit and caboodle. Right. Not just
this messy thing of well we'll take this
but you take that and sell that down the line.
And
what I think that
the Ellison's are doing that is
smart if you're going to continue to try to do this, they're going straight to the shareholders.
And I think, I think it's smart.
I think it's like, okay, listen, smart.
Whatever, whatever.
It's better to be smart and desperate than to be stupid and desperate.
And if you're going to be smart, I mean, you're going to be desperate because you want to
get this thing and you need it for your business to survive.
They need this.
They need this entity in order for them to really be a player because it'll be Disney versus Netflix.
And Paramount will be like, oh, what do I do?
Because if Paramount would have got it, it would have been a three-head of racing.
Because Amazon and Apple are just a few money, they could do whatever they want.
Right.
But the three students, and not the Netflix doesn't, but there's three, like actually studios making movies,
you would have had those three really battling it out for each other.
But now it's just going to be a two-headed race.
So by them going straight to the shareholders, and they go, look, they made a decision,
that clearly we're showing you on paper
doesn't make as much sense for you.
I think there's going to be a lot of shareholders that go,
you're making a good point.
I think there's going to be a lot of shareholders.
I think they've already seen the proposal,
and I think they've already put it on the proposal.
That's what I think.
And I'm not discounting that could be like a few stragglers
that say they don't, oh, I didn't see it that way.
I think because they've been reporting it this morning
that the proposal that Paramount is putting out there
is the exact same proposal that the board turned down just a few days ago.
And with the exact same money,
they just think that Netflix is a more viable situation going forward,
which is what's been reported that the board believes,
for the most part,
they think that's a more viable situation,
the paramount situation.
Because to me, Christian, you know this.
If someone's this desperate to be with you,
it's a little weird.
When someone comes at you with a bit of a stronger proposal,
more of a bigger plan, a future plan,
And it's like, okay, I can see that.
I can maybe get on board with that.
But if someone's like, we need, look, you're doing something stupid.
Why are you doing this?
You should be with me.
I'm better.
I have more money.
I can do this.
You just go,
you seem a little desperate.
And right now, I get it.
I understand, they are desperate.
I understand, I understand their desperation.
Like, it goes back to what you were saying before.
It's like, I think, and I'm one of those people.
And I said it, I, you know, I definitely ate crow when they, when they announced Netflix.
because I was convinced that Paramount would get it.
So were they.
Right, right.
So, and that's what I mean is that they had, okay, look, we're going to, we're getting
the UFC, where Skydance is buying, parent, we're going to, we're making this play.
That was the road, and it was a good road.
It just, there was a, like, Netflix blocked the road.
Because Netflix outmaneuvered them.
So small.
They out maneuvered them.
And they've been out maneuvering everyone in this business for the last 10 years.
I know.
that's what they that's why ted saraneda that's why that's why we go look i'll call zola zelzov zoloft all day long right um
i won't let ted sarandos his name be mispronounced no you're right he's a genius he's a genius
he's a genius he's a genius he makes moves like you said it was dvd's and now he just bought worm brothers
yeah he's genius he knows what the public want not not you people in the tiny hollywood bubble he
knows what the public wants.
And the public wants access to this stuff quicker.
The public, for the most part, is not in love with movie theaters anymore that they were in years past.
And it's a shame.
Look, I lament the death of movies.
I love movies.
The greatest experiences of movie theaters.
But Ted understands this.
It's why he was able to destroy block.
And he's got the balls to say it.
And he's got the balls to say it.
He knows the theatrical window is closed.
He knows that opening weekend, second week and third weekend, that's where you make all your majority
of your money, 90% of your money.
I saw a lot of our colleagues
and people I really respect
getting so up in arms about the thing that he said
and I'm like, oh really Ted, look at this.
And they showed a picture like a Nolan movie in IMAX.
It's like you're bringing out one experience.
Exactly.
That's nuts.
Yeah, it's like you can,
even if you show 10 movies that look good on the theater,
how many movies are made per year
and how many people don't go to the movies
to see all of these movies?
He's not talking about the 10 movies that look good in IMAX.
He's talking about movies.
If you have sex 30 days a month,
and you do it once well every month you're not a great guy you're not a great you don't make a great
love you're not a porn star you're not a porn star you're not a porn star you're not a porn star you're
not a poor star you're occasionally make great love right the 29 days though the other person's got to deal
with you not being good at what you do so right that's the truth of the situation you can't point to
and some people brought up look at kill bill it was sold out that's an event movie that is not
it's not going to be out for the next four months he's not saying that nobody like like that movies
in general aren't still like people clearly whether it's avatar or anything too there are times
that people like to go to the movies to see things on screen it is it is it will always be there that
but you can't argue that it was diminished and you can make the argument that because of streaming
has given people the comfortability and television technology has given people the ability to say okay
you know what i would rather listen to my surround sound and watch my
70 inch television and watch
you know then to sit down and watch some
asshole with his feet up and on
his phone and talking about this like
nope and $75 popcorn I'm like
for for a movie
and this is the point I made the other day John that I
know you agree with me on but just to reiterate it
what people don't understand is that
let's say Netflix right now is what $22 a month
or whatever it is yeah yeah yeah okay
so even if it turns out that it's
$40 a month
okay for once they get Warner Bros.
$40 a month.
So what it allows you to do is that you turn on a movie,
let's say you turn on that Catherine Bigelow movie
and you hate it.
Right, right?
You turn off House of Dynamite after an hour,
but right afterwards, you turn on Stranger Things Season 4.
Yeah.
And you watch, season 5, you watch those 4.
You've already spent the money.
Because if you went to the theater to see a movie,
you can't just turn on the next thing without spending money.
Yeah.
You're already subscribed.
You're spending this money per month as opposed to the ticket sale plus the popcorn
and everything else too.
And I saw someone else again tweet the same thing.
You don't have to spend money on the popcorn.
Yeah, but that's part of the theater experience.
Yeah, of course.
I can't stand that argument.
You don't need to buy concessions.
But that's the point of the things.
And I'm also not judging, you know,
theaters for for i'm not judging theaters for doing for charging that money those are but it's because of the studios
right right more of the first opening weekend and second weekend box office gross the theaters have to pay rent
so they have to increase refreshment prices when people are mostly in theaters which is opening weekend
and movies so that they can pay their rents and stay open but that is all happening because studios
have decided to strong our movies movie theaters and take more of the ticket sales than they have in the past
So people want to operate like this thing is in a vacuum.
And there are so many moving parts to this.
It's absolutely an octopus with eight different legs.
It's going.
There's so much involved in what's going on here.
And they just want to go, Netflix, bad, Paramount Good.
And it's like there's so much more complexity to this than some of my colleagues and our colleagues believe they get caught in playing the populist game of like, well, I love movie theaters.
It's the bubble.
It's the bubble.
It's so frustrating to see that.
Because you're not, I don't know how many of them really believe this.
and how many of them are playing to their subscribers?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I mean, there's quite a few people that I, that I saw that I think are,
the ones that I saw, very genuine and movie fanatics and cinnophiles and like,
and just people who generally just want to protect the movie experience.
And I applaud, I applaud them for it, for it.
But I think that they're living outside of what you said.
Like most people, most people that aren't in the bubble,
they're not standing there with their sword like John Snow,
protecting the theater. They're going, I would much rather just be on my couch right now being able
to watch. Someone said it could be $60 soon. It's still, if you equate it, right? If you go and you see a movie
with your family, yeah, for one experience. One experience. One experience. One experience in the
movie theater. And you spend, let's say, let's say it's you, your significant other, and your two kids.
Let's just say that. Yeah. You've already spent around
$45 to $55 on the tickets alone.
Not including the concessions, parking, any of that stuff.
Let's call it an $85 experience for that night.
Yeah.
For one movie.
One movie.
And you don't even know it's going to be good.
Right.
As opposed to $59.99.
Yeah.
And you've decided that's your platform now.
Yeah.
You can watch all Game of Thrones if you missed it.
you can watch the Sopranos if you missed it.
You can watch the DCU if you want to.
You can watch whatever you want to watch now.
And you can do it in a month time.
And you still spent way less than you would have that night.
This is the argument I've had.
And you know this since the Collider days.
Like people talk about people talk about we need to preserve this.
We need to preserve that.
But don't charge me too much.
I can't afford.
Like what is the you spend, I guarantee you most people spend 40 to
$50 on Starbucks a month when they go to the cost.
What do they do?
Shit that out within three hours.
And so you're going to tell me that the incredible amount of content that would be on a Netflix
Warner Brothers subscription streaming service isn't worth $60?
I would say yes.
The amount of people don't understand it.
I saw somebody in the comments.
I ain't paying no $60 for streaming.
Well, let me ask you a question.
Do you have an answer?
The answer might be no.
Yeah.
But if you already are paying for.
HBO Max right now and Netflix.
About 20.
Right there, that's probably like close to 40.
And then Disney, you have that.
It's, yeah.
And look, they have bundles.
Right now, you can, all these streaming services have bundles that they offer that makes it cheaper per month, you know?
Right.
And so that will happen with this situation.
Yeah.
So there's a lot.
There's a lot there.
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Okay, so one of the other things, though, is that kept coming up, especially in our space, is the James Gunn size.
What is going down with James Gunn and Safran?
So there is a little bit of an answer.
And that answer is that they were, the deal has been extended to 2027.
Yeah.
Does that mean they're completely safe?
Hold your popcorn.
DC Studios chief James Gunn, Peter Stafford,
addressed the future of their involvement of DC
and Warner Brothers following Thursday Night's News of Netflix
and a Bloomberg profile piece.
The pair revealed that their contracts were originally for four years
ending in October 2026.
Now they reveal that those deals have been extended
and now due to expire in spring of 2027.
David Zazlov, who confirms in the piece,
he appointed the pair after reading Gunn's script for Superman,
had nothing but praise for the pair in the piece.
the work of James and Peter, the creative vision.
It's compelling great economic return.
There's no storytelling content that we have that provides a bigger palette than D.C.
And there's nobody around right now who can tell these stories with the same imagination and excitement.
The piece also says the pair are not letting larger corporation going on all through their plans.
And Gunn says theatrical releases are incredibly important for the studios output.
The communal theatrical experience is something that is incredibly important and remarkably well suited to our big spectacle films.
So next effort from the DC Universe of Supergirl with Word this weekend that the first trailer for the movie is slated to debut online this coming Thursday.
I can also address the delays with DCU's Batman, The Brave and the Bold film saying it takes time because if you're going to make a Batman movie, it better be effing.
Awesome.
Okay.
I think, John, that there's a lot of answers here, though.
You do not, you don't, well, you know what?
Before I even give my opinion, what do you make of all this?
No, no, no, you give your opinion, because you know me.
I have my James Gun Decoder ring on.
And so I want to hear, you go ahead.
But I don't think he really did anything here decoder-wise.
I think, I think, like, if you look at it, business-wise, like, first of all, if you're, if, if you're either, whether you're Sarandos or your Zasloff, you go, okay, look, we've got this.
We've got Supergirl coming out.
We have lanterns that's coming out.
We've got Clayface coming out.
And then we're going to have Manna Tomorrow coming out, right?
all of that lands within the 2027 landscape leading into.
The other thing that is not going to happen is an approval and a sale of this company
until late 2026, early 2027.
Right.
So during that time, why be on the fence of like, what the hell are we going to do with this?
We have no idea what we're going to do.
You're still running in an operation.
You're still doing the things that you're doing.
You're still running properties.
So why wouldn't you extend it?
What it also allows them to do and tells Zavis,
I was like to say, is like, okay, look, here's the deal.
You've got until, we're probably, this thing's probably going through at Netflix.
If it does, it's going to probably hit early 2027.
Yeah.
You'll have enough game tape to either say to Sarandos, hey, we're on a roll here.
Extend us for two more years now with you guys.
Or here's what we got.
Good luck to you.
Once you guys really acquire it, we're out.
Yeah.
Makes sense.
I think that's the number one thing
what you just said, that last line.
This is, and I'm sure James Gunn
said the same thing.
I don't know what's going to happen
with who's going to get Warner Brothers.
So it only extend me to 2027.
Like, I'm sure he was like, don't give me another
five years or six years.
Give me until 2027, because I don't know
if I'm going to want to work for the person
who is going to take over the studio.
Whether it be Sarandos
or whether it be Sarandis or whatever,
whatever it be him or or uh ellison and so now at least i can finish my vision of the superman saga
gods and monsters that's all out the window it's not happening but the superman saga i can at least
finish just before i have to leave if i have to leave and if i don't and i like what i'm working for
then i will happily extend for longer so i can tell more stories within the dc universe so i agree
with you it's it's it's it's brand uh smart brand management
Like, you know, if you do finish it and you're good, then you basically have carte blanche to go anywhere, aka Star Wars, and take over an entire franchise.
And you have a track record.
You said so well as Christian, you have game tape to show what you can do running a massive franchise.
So.
And if you're Warner Brothers, why in the world would you want to have to go find somebody else to run a pre-established thing before your sale even happens?
So let's play it where, okay, he leaves.
Okay, you know what?
We're not extending your contract.
The sale hasn't gone through though.
Well, who's running this other.
He's still a producer on it, but the other stuff, even though Supergirl really did well,
and it's kind of up in the air now, and it's chaotic.
It's like, don't make it chaotic.
Just give them an extra year.
And that's exactly what they did.
It made a lot of sense to do it.
Now, I agree.
The question will then be when we get there, the microscope,
especially whether it's Sarandos and all and everybody else they're going to go okay supergirl what you
got you know what do you got Clayface even though you cost whatever it is what do you got and the same thing
okay man of steel part two whatever not man of steel but uh you know a man of tomorrow what do you got
that's what is now now you're really now now the pressure is on um and if the hostile takeover
does happen still it still puts you in that position where
Let's say Paramount does wind up getting it somehow.
Okay.
Right.
Right.
What it allows you to do now, because especially even if they do wind up getting it somehow,
they're going to have to go through so much legal stuff, that ain't going to happen until
2027 anyway, if they get it.
So you still got the game tape.
Because if you come in and let's say man is, I keep saying a man of tomorrow, Supergirl,
lanterns, they all crush.
And then the Ellison's get it and get rid of gun after all this, then just going to be,
the DC fans are going to revolt against your new brand right away.
True.
You're allowing it to build and improve.
Now, again,
the other side of it is both Paramount and Netflix,
with Netflix,
obviously being the one everyone's talking about,
is that if those don't perform and they eat it,
and it turns into,
you know,
this just isn't working,
then you might not get your contract renewed.
Right.
Renew.
Right.
Yeah.
But what it does bring
the question. I bring out the
Decoder Ring for this last comment. That's what I meant
is if you're going to make a Batman movie, it better
be effing off. Okay. You're delaying it because
of the Batman Part 2 and you're not ready
to commit to anything outside of the Batman
part 2. No, yeah. Moshedi's not going to direct
this thing, as I've said. And so, I
think they're still working on it. Even with the success
of it now, you think?
Yeah, yeah, I think still
yes, yes. You're doing a damn good job
on a TV show. He really is. The two
episodes he directed were good, but what was
a big complaint about the... He did the third one.
The CGI, yes, but he did the...
He did the...
He did...
So I'm with those complaints,
but the last episode that just aired
last night, he directed,
and he did not overdo it
with the CGI.
He didn't.
We'll see.
We'll see.
Look, it could be possible
that this series is making
gone take a second look at him
and may put him back on board.
But all the signs have been very clear that Mushieri is not involved with this anymore.
He's taking other jobs.
They're freezing him out of the script process.
And so those are all evidence.
Come on.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
I don't think he's going to do it either.
I'm just talking to other people who've been saying, you're ridiculous.
Yeah, yeah.
The thing is when you look at this situation, I think he's kicking the ball down the field as far as you can go.
Because look, if the contract's only until 2027, we're in 2025 now, Christian.
They're not going to shoot a one to one to one.
woman movie and a Batman movie and have this thing out by 2027.
So to me, I think he's pushing this thing as far out as you can go and until he has to
absolutely start doing it and committing to it.
If I'm here though, dude, if I'm him, right around next year, like mid-20206, I start
putting it together.
Like, I start putting that movie together and I start putting it.
You'll even get to finish it.
I know, but that's what I'm saying, though, is that if you put together, but you've got to put
together the right package and get people excited about it. Now, if you put together a package,
no one's excited about it. They probably just, you know, disappear like a fart in the wind.
But if you put together a package, people really get excited about. And then your contract stuff
is coming up. And then it's like, okay, well, what are we doing with this movie? It's like,
good luck to it. You know, do whatever we're going to do. I don't know. So there's a lot to it.
Yeah, because it's not like Kathleen. Like Kathleen, if that Kenberg trilogy comes off,
which I don't even know if it will, she being attached to executive.
producer she can stay on after she steps down right that's not there's no there's no animosity
right i think politically gun and ellison don't line up and so that could be an issue for gun down the
boat after 2027 he's going to have to promote and work with ellison and promote that's if ellison's on
but that's but that's what netflix you're saying paramount gets it yeah yeah exactly but i think with
netflix that's a much easier sell right i don't think it's a much easier sell with ellison so
maybe not i don't know either way uh as i said last
weekend as we keep saying this story as franks the lone says is far from over the what do you guys
make of it what do you think about the contract do you think it makes sense to extend put your thoughts
in there all right john we got it last week you got you and mike had a good run but chris car
came in swinging hot at the end there but um yes what the magic formula chris car man she's great
there's a 15 you got you got right now 15 come on guys you got to see we hit hit a hondo before
we uh sign off today but yeah that that's only two the stories so far
Two of the stories. We got more.
What we always cover on Mondays and rightfully so, especially right now is the box office, right?
And once again, the box office has shown that numbers don't mean dick as far as projections go.
Because I think they said that Five Nights of Freddy's Two was projected to make like 25 million or something.
They make nothing.
Yes.
Nothing.
Well, it said shut up and don't listen because our fan base is going to watch it.
And that's exactly what has.
happen. Five nights at Freddy's two, it surges at the box office going into the weekend projections
for five. It's free. The numbers weren't good. The title stretched later on 35, 40. I read 25 at one point,
just under half of the debut. And that film was impacted by being launched on Peacock. Not the case here.
Universal and Blumhouse will be sighing with relief as actual grosses for the film. It made $63 million.
We'll go into the actual numbers in just the second, still down in the first, but not so drastically
an excellent result from a PG-13 horror movie.
It's the biggest opening for a post- Thanksgiving theatrical release coming ahead of the last
samurai with 24.2 and Star Trek with 18.
It's also the biggest December horror opening, December universal opening and PG-13 horror
film in 2025.
Overseas, a film also pulled in a further 46, bringing up to 109.
All right, let's Zootopia 2.
Let me get into the action.
I'm going to bring up box office mojad, like looking at the numbers here.
And there it is.
So five nights of Friday.
53 million made 109 worldwide so far.
Zootopia 2 is a big number of 43.
You made 915 already in two weeks.
Woof.
Huge.
Easily a billion-dollar movie, if no more.
Wicked for good at 440.
It's kind of on par with the original.
Jiu-Jitsu, I don't know what this is.
Kind of as an execution.
This is, oh, anime, at 40 million.
You don't count out the anime movies.
You just can't.
And now you see me now you don't.
With 209 million.
so far.
Okay, so the news, once again,
is that Five Nights of Freddy's 2 is a massive fan base,
and they'll continue to make these movies
because their fan base is tremendous.
I tell you, though, what's funny is,
I really know about the lore and everything too,
because my oldest is obsessed with these books
and the games obsessed.
And I saw the movie, and I thought the second,
the first movie I saw, it's fine, it's fun.
I thought the second movie is terrible.
I thought the second movie is terrible.
I thought that the writing was awful.
I thought that they lost the kind of special things that were supposed to be
from it from what the stuff that my daughter told me about and the lore.
I was like,
and she asked me to spoil some of the stuff for her.
I was telling her.
She's like,
oh my gosh,
she was getting so mad as a fan.
She's like,
they did this.
They did that.
Oh my God,
why?
She's like,
I don't know we want to see this anymore.
They did that.
Why did they do that?
And she like,
she couldn't believe that something.
She's like,
who's the villain.
And I told her the villainous.
And she told me like more about the,
they completely,
and what's interesting is that the,
the creator is like a screenwriter on it.
Yeah. But it doesn't matter.
Because people went and they saw it and did well and the audience supported it and they want to see more of it.
But the projection is what kind of makes me go like this because it was so off on what it did.
How does that happen?
I think it's a matter of not understanding the younger generation.
And we've seen this before.
And I mean, nobody saw Minecraft movie making the money it made, especially because the initial critics were just, just destroyed the film.
You know, the ones that weren't, you know, kind of there for the money.
the premiere. And so you saw that clearly that there was a situation where they
underestimated as well. And I think it's because a lot of these box office prognosticators
are older people. And they don't really get what young people are into. They're not as
aligned up with stuff that's going on like TikTok and the social media site. Right. Right.
And so when the film comes out and it explodes, they're like, well, how did this happen?
What a surprise. I was like, well, young people vote in, young people vote with their money and
with their attendance to certain things, not across the board, just certain
things. And so it's unpredictable. And so I was happily surprised to see it do well,
but I agree with you. It's not a good movie. And at the end of the day, I wonder if this will
have, you saw it. Yeah, yeah, it ended up seeing it. I wonder if it will have the same amount of,
I'm going to say, same amount of traction as the first one did, or if it'll, if it'll fall
apart before it. I don't know. Is it on, is it on peacock already? Yeah. No, not yet.
It debuted, uh, like $17 million less than the first one, because the first one debuted at
80 million. I think the audience that the difference with like say Zootopia 2 and this is that
the audience that went to see this movie, you're going to see a huge drop off on week two.
Yes.
Huge. You're not going to see a huge drop off in Zootopia because I've said this so many times
that I turn blue in the face. When you give families, kids something to watch and it's good.
Yeah. During the holidays, there's no other competition for this movie. Right. Two weeks. It's
already almost made a billion dollars it'll cross a billion this week before even hits this
weekend um this movie is a massive hit it's huge it destroyed wicked people are wondering it's
going to be like wicked or dystopia it wasn't even a contest it was a absolute uh destruction the thing
and it's probably going to be the biggest movie uh of the year outside of avatar yeah i i think
wicked is uh pretty much done now i don't think it's going to come close to the 700 and something million
dollars that it did the first one did because the reviews have not been great the word of mouth has
not been that great for the people who saw it as well and this morning we saw christian it was not
nominated for a golden globe in a category built for it to be nominated in comedy or music right right
there's not many musicals that came out this year and so it didn't even get nominated in that so
to me it's very clear that uh that film is is not going to hit the heights that the first one
did and now utopia coming in an avatar next week forget it no one's going to go
O.C. Wicked and the numbers that they need to to hit that set another.
No, it's, it's done. It's done the kind of business that's going to do.
It's like, to me, the story is five nights and Freddy's two and Zootopia, right?
Like, because anime, it seems, is, anime is very similar to, um, to Five Nights of Freddy's.
And we're like, you're going to capture your audience.
The thing is that anime, and I can tell you that just from watching the Demon Slayer stuff,
has a very dedicated audience. And they've been doing a very smart thing now.
they're putting more and more of these things in the theater and the audience shows up.
And this is why the argument then goes against to what we're talking about with some of our,
um,
you know,
colleagues is that you put those movies in the theater,
those,
the fan base will show up for it for at least week one and week two because they want to see it in the big screen.
They want to have some fun with it,
but they're also going to watch it at home on the streaming platform also.
Yeah,
they'll watch it over and over and over and over again.
And that's,
and that's why those special events and those other things.
And that's why those have kind of reemerged as something like they're re-releasing the 77, the New Hope.
Yeah, but right.
But the unedited, the original.
Yeah, which is, I'm going to see that.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
I can't wait to see that.
So like stuff like that, there's just things that will never go in the theater.
But anyway, the box office, anything else that really surprises?
I mean, again, next week, what comes?
Is it Avatar next week?
Avatar's next week.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, when's the embargo for the review drop?
The 16th.
16th.
Okay.
Because we both, we have a, well, it's funny because I saw you're out of the theater.
And yeah, I, I understand your reaction 100% because like, as I said in the beginning, I feel that the fans of it, because there's a lot of similar beats.
There's a lot of similar beats.
There's a lot of similar beats.
Like, there's like five beats from the second movie.
I mean, like, there, there are.
I just love being in that world so much.
whereas where you're like, you know,
the visuals can only do so much for me.
That's what I, yeah.
I know.
Yeah, and I agree with you.
I agree with you, but I just, I'll go back.
I'll watch 15 of those movies.
I know,
and I know,
and you're the people that are relying on.
And I,
in no way I'm going to fault anybody who love,
like,
it's the things.
People come for me for their chance,
for my love of Transformers movies,
but everyone's got a franchise
that they love that,
yeah,
to me,
that doesn't do great movies.
And I think Avatar,
the last one wasn't that great.
I think this one,
oh,
I love those.
Isn't that great?
And I think the same thing with Jurassic World movies, but there are people who...
We'll put those in the same sentence.
They're all three of them in the same sentence.
No, that's crazy talk.
Anyway, it's crazy talk.
It's all visuals distracting you from really weak.
It's actually emotion.
Anyway, it's another debate for another time.
But the box office is here, but I don't think John and I will be on separate pages
that we think Avatar will clean up and destroy...
Oh, 100%.
Number one.
I think it'll be Avatar.
than Zootopia, then Freddy's.
So we'll see.
Put your thoughts in it.
Did you see those movies?
What did you think about them?
Did you go to the movies?
What was the last thing you saw in the theater?
Put your thoughts in there.
Let us know.
All right.
We'll probably try to,
I don't necessarily wrap up this last story,
because it's going to,
it's going to kind of go longer
because there's two nominations that kind of came out over the weekend.
It was a critics choice.
And the Globes.
Globes dropped this morning.
So we'll start with the Globes because, and if you look at the Globes nomination,
look at the Critics Choice nominations, there are so, like, it just kind of confirms what you
and I've been saying.
It's, this is such an unpredictable season.
It's so unpredictable because the one thing is that there are some people that are nominated
in, this is what Golden Globes allows you to do, is that by doing a drama category and
then a comedy category, and most of the comedies aren't even comedies.
I think that there's, I think that is that, what's the one that, oh my God, Amanda Seafreed was in, right?
Oh. Oh.
Yeah, she was in that movie, the one that she got nominated.
She's been nominated, but it's like, but it's not a comedy.
The Testament of Adelaide.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's not a comedy.
Oh, it's kind of a dark comedy, but yeah.
Kind of.
I know.
Yeah, right.
So we'll get into that.
But here are the Golden Globes.
Let's get into the Golden Globes.
And there's stuff that will be in some things that were nominated that were not nominated in
critics choice. So we'll go into that. So here are some of the nominations in
in general here. And here are the nominations for the Golden Globes. Sometimes
these are ones that can say, okay, well, the Oscars will be there. But best motion picture
for drama, Frankenstein, Hamnet, it was just an accident, secret agent,
sentimental value, and sinners. Best motion picture, musical or comedy,
Blue Moon, Bologna, Marty Supreme, No other choice,
developed big and one battle after another best motion picture animated arco demon slayer
ilio kate pop demon hunters little amelia and zootopia too it's funny because the one that was not
nominated in this one yeah that was nominated in critic's choice was uh in your dreams oh yeah right
the netflix one yes yeah um now this is interesting cinematic and box office achievement how was
avatar fire and ash nominated you know hasn't come out yet
how is it nominated?
It hasn't even come out.
How does it,
how is it nominated for box office achievement?
So if it comes out and it eats it,
does it still get nominated?
That's at work.
Mission Impossible Final Reckoning
didn't even do that great in the theater.
I know.
Again,
the Golden Globes are just who we want to come to the party.
Listen,
I'd love to work for the Golden Globes
because I hear they offer a six-figure salary
just to watch movies all year.
But like,
you also have to co-line ridiculous shit like this.
This is insane.
Cinematic boxoff an achievement.
K-pop demon-huntress was in the theater for like two weeks.
I know, I know.
This is insane.
This is all the playing to the public.
Yeah, sinners, weapons, wicked for good, Zootopia 2.
Okay, Zootopia 2 should win.
Right now, depending on what happens to avatar.
Best Motion Picture, Not English Language, it was just an accident.
No other choice.
The Secret Agent, Sentimental Value, Sirat, and the voice of Inver Job.
Best Performance by Female Actor in a Motion Picture,
drama. Jesse Buckley for Hamnet. Jennifer Lawrence, I love. We're not that
I've said that wrong. In sentimental value. Julia Roberts, after the hunt.
Tessa Thompson, Hedda and Eva Victory. Sorry, baby. Now, this is male actor in a motion picture
drama. Joel Edgerton, trained dreams, Oscar Isaac Frankenstein, Dwayne Johnson,
smashing machine, Michael B. Jordan for sinners, Wade of Mora, a secret agent,
and Jeremy Ellen White for Springsteen. Best performance by a female actor in a motion picture.
Rose Byrne, if I had legs, I'd kick you.
Now I've seen that.
I don't really find that to be a comedy.
You and Jeff both, yes.
Cynthia Arrivo, Wicked for Good.
An actual musical?
Okay.
She was not nominated for Critics' Choice, by the way.
Kate Hudson, song, song Blue.
Chase Infinity, one battle after another.
I don't really, I know there's comedic moments in one battle after another.
I wouldn't call that a comedy.
Manda Seafreed, Testament of Man Lee, wouldn't call it a comedy,
and Emma Stone, Bagonia.
Maybe.
Best performance by a male actor in motion picture, musical or comedy, Timothy Shalame,
Marty Supreme, George Clooney, Jay Kelly, Leonardo DiCaprio, one ballot for another,
Ethan Hawk, Blue Moon, Lee, Bion, No Other Choice, and Jesse Plymouths, Bologna.
Best Performance by a Female Actor in a Supporting, Emily, Smashinger, Machine,
Elephanting, Senator LeVevalue, Ariana, working for good, Inna Ibsada, Lilius,
and no way I got that right, Senatorate of Value, at Amy Madigan Weapons,
Tiana Taylor, one battle after another.
Best performance by a male actor
of supporting role in any motion picture.
Benicio D'Otoe-Torro.
I love that he's been nominated by both
Critics' Choice and Golden Globe.
I didn't think he would.
I'm glad that he did.
Jacob Lurdy, Frankenstein, Paul Meskell, Hamlet,
Sean Penn, one battle after another.
Adam Sandler, Jay Kelly,
Stalin Scars Guard, sentimental value.
Best director, Paul Thomas Anderson,
Ryan Coogler, Jimo Dottoro,
Jafar Benhadi, for it was just an accident.
Joshim Trrier, sentimental value,
and Chloe Zhao.
Hamnet best screenplay you can see all those there um best television series diplomat pit severin
slow horses white lotus best television series musical comedy abbott elementary the bear hacks nobody
wants this best television you know there was one that i want to get to that i thought was interesting
where was it they have it um they have a of a podcasting now oh god i have it there's a best podcast and
it showed a little bit of a there was no um like joker
Rochukin wasn't nominated.
Of course not.
Come on.
I mean,
you can't take that serious.
Regardless if you should win or not,
you can't,
you can't take that series.
If the guy,
the number one podcast isn't even nominated,
what are you talking about?
It was armchair expert with Dax Shepard,
call her daddy,
uh,
with the Alex Cooper one.
Could hang with Amy Polo,
the Bell Robbins podcast,
which I'm right.
Right.
Right.
The catering to it up first.
And yeah,
it's catering.
Basically,
if you're famous and you have a podcast,
you get to qualify.
Well, yeah, but and align and align politically with with them.
Yes, exactly.
Because I would put my podcast up against the Cinephiles up against any of those fucking
podcasts.
We do a better show.
I mean, there's no, I mean, come on.
It's like, it's like, how do you not nominee to Rogan?
I mean, if you're going to do it, you can't.
You can't.
You can't.
All right.
Let's see.
So the other thing I want to bring up here is the critics choice real quick.
Yeah.
So a couple things here.
Now, this is.
if
we have
We have
Disclosure right
We both voted in this
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
Well not vote
I mean nominated
Yeah nominated
Yeah nominally we vote for these nominations
Yeah
Okay
So I'm trying to want to get to all the
It doesn't mean that like everything that's been nominated
Was something that we nominated
No no
I mean there was quite a few that I put that did not get nominations
And all right
So best picture in critics choice
Will you please help
Super Main hate this. I'm going to start a fund for his Roka derangement syndrome. He's coming in here
the whole show. He's just crying about me lying about everything. This poor sad child whose parents
did not raise him correctly. Why he is to be you're addressing it? You're addressing it.
Yeah, I'm addressing it because after a while you just go, you know what? We have to. There you go. Thank you.
Thank you, sorry. I wish him the best of luck. Get some therapy. All right. So best picture,
Bagonia, Frankenstein, Hamnet, J. Kelly, Marty Supreme, one bell after another,
sentimental values, you're not moving the thing up.
Oh, I'm not?
Yeah, yeah.
All right, hold on a second.
Wait a minute.
It's down here.
There we go.
Okay.
Bagonia, Frankenstein, Hamnet, J. Kelly, Marty Supreme, one battle after another,
sentimental value, sinners, train dreams, wicked for good.
I could move wicked for good out of there, but I think that everything else for best picture,
I think that they've done pretty good.
I would have liked it.
There's no world that it would have made it in there, but I would have loved to see
roofman put in there.
Yeah.
I think wicked for being there is ridiculous.
Yeah, no, it shouldn't be in there.
Best director, Paul Thomas Anderson, Ryan Coogler,
Deltoro, Saffty, Bucking, Trier,
and Chloe's out.
I think all of those are very good choices.
100%.
I have no complaints on any of these.
Actor. Timothy Shalameh, Leonard DiCaprio,
Joel Edgerton, Ethan Hawke,
Michael B. Jordan, Wagner.
again, I think there's a pretty good choices.
Overall.
You know where I'm going to go here in this one?
Actress, Jesse Buckley, Roseburn, Chase Infinity, Renee Renis,
Amanda Seafreed, and Emma Stone.
Now, there's two things that I was in here.
I don't know if there has been a bigger advocate for Chase Infinity than me.
Okay.
I think it's a supporting actress.
I agree 100%.
I don't think she's in it enough.
I think she's in the second half.
strongly, but I do not think it's a leading performance.
I think that, I think that, so that is taking a spot away.
And I also, I did see the testament of Anne Lee, which I don't think is a comedy,
but that's not here.
And I still think that Julia Roberts are stronger than Amanda Seifree.
Now, I don't think Julie Roberts should win.
I think Jesse Buckley is the clear favorite and should win.
But I don't think Seyfried and I don't think that Chase Infinity should be here.
Now, I do think she should be in supporting action.
Right. It's weird. I mean, because I, you know, and I have to look at it.
Like, I don't want to remove a black actress, the only black actress in the whole list to move another white actress in there.
But what is the matter of as a performance?
Well, it matters to me.
But I think you're 100% right that Julia Roberts deserved to be nominated.
And I think Chase is a supporting actress.
Yeah. 100%.
Yeah. Right.
Okay. So supporting actor.
Benicio gets the nod.
Jacob Allorty, Paul Meskell, Sean Penn, Adam Sandler, and Stellan Scars Guard.
Again, I think these are all great choices.
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I will tell you that I think because DeLoros is in there,
it might hurt Sean Penn's chances. I still think he's going to win.
Yeah. I feel like the Oscars have to choose one or the other. Like this is
critics choice. I know. It's tough. I wonder to throw them in there. You put them
both in there. You're killing their chances. I think it gives Paul Meskell a shot.
Yeah, which I don't know if he should be. He was real good.
He was good. He was. I thought.
he was pretty damn good. I would say that,
and I thought Adam Sandler's pretty damn good, too.
He is great. I love Adam when he does
that kind of real, me too.
But I would probably move him out.
Not Adam, the other guy.
Oh, Meskell?
I would probably move Mescal out for Jacob Allerty,
because I thought Alorty was amazing in Frankenstein.
Well, isn't the Lordy in there? He's in there.
Oh, sorry, he is in there. Sorry about that.
Yeah, Lord is in there.
Who would I move Mescal out with somebody?
Okay. Would you move in?
I don't know. Let me think.
You just want to get rid of him?
Just to get rid of him.
I think there's a better performance.
I can't think of it.
All right.
Supporting, L. Fanning,
Ariana Grande.
Oh, and by the way,
when you mentioned Best Actress,
Cynthia Revo not mentioned
in Best Actress.
I'm not really surprised by it.
I mean,
Arna Grande,
Igna Ibsar, Lilius,
Amy Madigan,
I know you've been championing for her.
Here it is.
Delroy Lindo in Cinners.
I would have moved here.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, he was pretty good.
I think it was amazing.
Yeah, he was pretty damn good.
Original screenplay.
Okay.
But those are the main ones.
Yeah.
I think they're in the young performers.
So anyway, so out of those that land, you know, to me, like I said, I think that,
but what I will say, as much as I do think that Roberts was better than the ones that I mentioned,
I think she was nominated for the Golden Globe for two reasons.
One, she was nominated because you get to split two categories.
Yes, true.
Where I don't think her chances for Oscars are probably the same as critics,
choice. And two, they want Julie Roberts at their party.
100%. 100%. That's why you put the Mission Impossible in that cinematic possible.
You want Tom Cruise at your party. Yeah. And Avatar. You want James Cameron at your party.
100%. Right. So it makes sense. No one takes the gold globe seriously. No, that's why I still think,
though, even though, even though I think there are a couple things that the Critics Choice got maybe wrong in
nominations. I think that 95% of it, A, they got right.
100% and I still think regardless of whether or not you and I are able to put our opinions in there.
I think it's the most notable awards thing out of all of them because it's everybody actually sees the movies.
And not just because I'm in critics or we're in current.
Like it's, I respect their nominations just below the Oscars.
It's to me it's the Oscars and the Oscars.
I say I go over Oscars because the Oscars, especially after the farce of last year where they said people aren't even watching the movies and voting.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. I remember that. But yeah, that kind of situation for sure. Oh, someone brought up something really interesting, too. I would move chase. Okay. So if my issue is, you know, making sure that a woman of color is in there who deserves to be in there, I would move Chase Infinity out to supporting. And I would, uh, oh, no, I guess not. No, never mind. Let it be. Let it be. Let it be. Let's be. Um, I also don't think any other thing I will say is that because for where is it? Um, was it best, um, was the best? I think of women was sake. So for best actress.
Oh, yeah. So here's one.
Supporting actress, they gave Tiana Taylor.
I did not think Tanna Taylor was strong in that movie.
I think she was the weakest link out of the entire movie.
I think she was so, and maybe it was just because the character in general,
I do have to watch it.
I'm going to watch it again with, with, with, with Ming.
Maybe I'll feel differently.
But I think that Chase and, and Tanna Taylor has been doing stuff longer.
I think the Chase Infinity acted circles around her and was way, was way more like,
it was just so one note.
It was so one note.
I think she delivered a really interesting performance in that movie,
but she's only in it for the first 20 minutes,
and then she's gone until that latter.
So to me,
I think the Chase Infinity one makes more sense to take that slot,
or even,
as I was just saying here,
as I was going to say,
Wunmi Mosaku in sinners.
I thought she could take that slot from Tiana Taylor as well,
because I thought she was excellent.
And again, another person supporting actor that could have gotten,
I think, too, would just,
or actually maybe even,
lead, but maybe that would be
tougher, was Kirsten Dunst
in, uh, roofman.
Oh, yeah.
I love, I love
that movie. I love it.
But there's, but just, you know who I, who I did
nominate, but I knew it wouldn't get the nomination.
Yeah, it was David Johnson for,
for a long, long,
long, yeah, I'm probably the only person that,
that, that, that submitted him as a, as a choice,
but, but, uh, but I wanted to. I just thought it was such an
incredible performance. Um, all right.
anything else, uh, as far as
What we, what we missed.
They were pretty good, the critics.
All right.
What do you guys make in the nominations?
Have you seen a lot of those movies?
Have you missed a lot of those movies?
Do you care?
Do you think the nominations were right, wrong?
Does it mean anything for the Oscars at all?
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season. All right, John, we got
22, so far.
22. Come on, people. Let's go.
22. You got to see, because Chris Carr is on a
two-week winning streak right now. So you got to
try to take out Chris Carr.
Bubbly personality. And, you know, I'm more
embracing. So Chris gets
you get, actually, you always get people
like kind of where, you're usually the person
to beat. This week, I know, we'll say.
I love people. I love people.
I love these people.
Did you get your treat yet, by the way?
What treat?
I got a treat.
Oh, treat, you asshole a tree.
Oh, tree, yeah.
Look at a tree.
Yes, I did get a tree.
We went through some drama, but this is, I don't know if you guys will be able to see the tree, but that's the tree.
Nice.
Yeah, really did a great job decorating it.
Wonderful tree.
Wonderful tree.
But we went to a nursery because I live with a very activist partner and she's like, we're not
going to Home Depot or Target for this two weeks.
And I'm like, okay, so we went to a nursery and got a tree from one of the garden nursery places.
Tell you what?
Phenomenal tree.
It was like 150 bucks.
Okay.
So that's the thing.
So here's the thing.
And this is easier for where I live.
So I'm not going to say that you can just go do the same thing.
But I normally went to the nurseries and they're expensive at the, like you said, 150 bucks, everything too.
But there's a, there's a fire department that does a tree lot over here where we live.
That's great.
And it's the port to the fire department and everything too.
Beautiful, big seven-foot tree, lush tree, $75.
That's amazing.
It was amazing.
And just local people who were there.
This shows you the difference is where I live now in LA.
I go and I get the tree.
And I realize, as I'm paying, like, it's cash only.
And I'm like, you know, and they already put the tree on my car.
Oh, no.
I'm like, you know, there's an ATM.
Can I walk to it?
Like, no, you can drive.
I can drive.
And then I go, I'm with my wife and my little one.
I go, you know what?
I'll leave my kid here.
And it's collateral.
And the guy, the guy goes, no, you won't come back.
I said, that's fair.
So they go, we trust you.
Go, come back.
I never remember these people day in my life.
We trust you.
And I came back immediately.
Immediately.
I was like, I ran there.
I felt like, you know, I get back to them faster than I would some of my friends.
I felt like they trust me, the firemen, they trust me.
So I went and I drove as fast as I could.
I got the money, gave it back to him.
And I made to start, look at the guy and you're like, you're good.
It was the best.
It was the best.
But they were great.
He wasn't pancakes.
We got pancakes.
Yeah, what do you want to do?
You need some bacon before you take home.
Anyway, we got 24 and hopefully they keep you on and we'll keep you here.
But in the meantime, tell us what's going on on the channel.
Yeah, the John Roker channel, so much happening.
We dropped a couple of recent videos, of course, over the Paramount WB situation.
Jeff and I really got into the nuts and bolts of it on Thursday.
That episode is up, and then Mike Bogle and I went into what's going,
what went on behind the scenes that we dropped that yesterday as well.
And we talked about a number of things going on in the world of entertainment.
James Gunn situation, Marvel situation, all of that happening there as well.
This week we'll be back at it.
Hopefully we'll do a new geek buddies review here for the most recent welcome to Dairy One
and the most recent episodes of Pluribus.
So we'll be having that coming up on the channel as well.
And I'm not sure if the hot mic will go live tonight or if I'll just be live solo on my own show tonight.
But look for announcement possibly there because I'm also trying to go see Kill Bill,
the whole bloody affair tonight at some point.
So we'll see what happens with that.
But yeah, we've got more stuff coming up from the Hot Mike Geek buddies,
filled the tequila tomorrow night with me at Winston A.
And then, of course, my stuff.
And we'll have a reaction for Supergirl on Thursday, that trailer.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, trailer's going to talk about it.
I just, it's the one thing like, I mean, I will say,
as I've told you, here's, here's the thing.
And this is again, nothing against our colleagues, but there's two things here.
Go ahead.
One.
I am excited about, I did not like the representation of Supergirl in Superman.
I've been clear.
We're on different pages on that.
Totally.
However, what I am on board with is the rave reviews that the, that the graphic novel has
got and how the story is supposed to be amazing and hearing about it has, and I love
Milliancox.
So I was like, my interest for that movie is high.
The one, because I am fully aware that after I see the film and then I have more context,
then I watched the movie back and I go, oh, well, now I get it.
Right.
So I can't, I can't make a judgment on.
I'm just saying for that point, I may have just, I just don't know what's happening.
However, what I will say is the predictable is like everybody who went to the event,
oh, this is next level.
Next level.
Best trailer ever seen.
Amazing.
So good.
You guys aren't ready for it.
It's like, that's what you say on every trailer you see that you go to the event too.
I cannot take you seriously.
There's someone in particular that I happen to really like that every time I see this person,
you guys have no idea what's coming.
I'm like, yeah, I do.
It's you saying how much you love the trailer, whether it's good or not.
It could be great.
But I mean, you're going to say it's great anyway.
I can't trust you because you went to the event.
If there's any phrase that I'm tired of hearing as I get over it, you're not ready.
We're not, we're not ready.
We're not ready for what's coming.
You're not ready.
what's coming. We have survived
world wars, pandemics.
I'm ready. Nuclear bombs
being dropped on foreign countries.
We're ready for everything. And
when we figure it out and we get through it.
So it drives me nuts when I see that kind of stuff.
Yeah, I get it. That's, well, that's like,
I think that's a little extreme, but I understand
you're saying, look, I have my things too where I've got,
like I told you, like, I can't stand Tom Yamis
telling me to, that
he's here for me. He's not.
Tom Yamis.
All right. You get Tom Yammas on the show, man.
go pal
snowed under at work today
oh it's the word thank you go pal
where are you snowed in
where are you snowed in go pal
where's it snowing I want to see snow
well
you careful what you ask for
it's going to start it snow here
Johnny Patricea
the Netflix anime Pluto is a reimagining
of Astroboy a bit darker more complex
I know you both are very busy
but you have time check it out
I mean
I'm always I'm always up for recommendations
of good stories
it doesn't matter what it is
so there you go
thank you Johnny for that one
24. Can we get to 100? I don't know, John. I don't know. Sometimes, sometimes you're, you're,
they will see. Some of you angry motherfuckers, come bring it. Some of you think, some of you have
Roka derangement syndrome. Send your stuff in. I'm going to hear what you guys have to say. Yeah.
Carl, Rutter, London calling. I saw Eternity. Great movie. Jay Kelly, it was okay. I like
I agree. I agree. It was good. It was like, it got better the second hour, but the first hour.
It seemed to repeat a lot of the same beats in the beginning. Yeah. Yeah. No country,
for old man incredible thanks john for
cennepiles that's for your archives
i think carn run is your number one
centipiles fan i appreciate that
he's very kind he is yeah watch uh joshua gonzalez
saw hamnet this morning it's great it is great
it's a beautiful movie i don't use that word
it's that one battle after another for me
that's the one two battle don't use that word often
yeah you don't describe movies but that is a beautiful
movie it really is like schmodeon competitors
did you see
did you see that
freaking movie I told you about yet? The Heta movie. Do you watch
not yet? Yes, I did watch it
over the weekend. And it's okay.
You being nicer than
I know because I like Tessa.
Tessa's great.
But it was the same scene.
Every scene.
I know, I know.
It was the same scene.
Can we agree that Nia DiCostas, okay?
I mean, the irony that
the avatar guy
is not okay with repeating scenes in one movie,
but he's okay with repeating scenes.
That's very different, very different.
Very different.
Wiley.
O.S.
I'm sick with Norovirus.
That is the worst, Riley.
It sucks bad.
Have you watched any holiday movies yet this year?
I'm going to watch Christmas story with Steph.
She's never seen it before.
Norovirus is the worst because the problem is it's like, okay, I'm good here.
I'm bad here.
Puking out, shitting out.
It's like it doesn't stop and then just exhaust you.
Norovirus crushed me last year.
this why I don't leave the house anymore.
I don't want anything that you sick people have.
Do you want to hear something funny, John?
One of the reasons, like, because I don't want to go,
because I think the subway contains so much of the right.
And I was going to go see,
they have both the SpongeBob and the,
and the Piranha, Parana.
Is that one?
No, Parana.
It was Anaconda movie.
Are they showing it?
Both of those trailers, both of those screenings are coming up.
I might just wait to react to both of those
and not go in the subway.
Yeah, I don't, yeah, yeah, I would agree with you to not do that.
I don't think those movies, well, I think obviously SpongeBob would be great,
but I don't think Anacom's going to do well at all.
Yeah, uh, maybe not.
Mike Joyce, here's hoping Apple swoops in and up, it's all.
Apple wants nothing to do with this.
I don't know.
I've heard some people say that as well.
They could swoop in and just like wait until everybody,
it tries to outbid each other until the final bid.
And then this comes in with like one big check and goes, oh, yeah,
We were sleeping, sorry.
Here's 200 billion.
Right.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't think Apple.
I don't think so much involved in it.
This is like,
we talked about this.
Movies and all the streaming stuff for Apple is a hobby.
Yes.
It's a hobby.
It's not their primary business.
Like it's a hobby.
Like Netflix,
their business is streaming.
It's their business.
And movies and TV.
It's their business.
Like Apple,
it's not their business.
It's a hobby that they have.
Same with Amazon.
It's a hobby.
Right.
Well,
it's a hobby.
I don't know about that.
I think getting bond, I think getting
Bond.
Of course.
I didn't say it wasn't expensive.
Didn't say it wasn't an expensive hobby.
It's not there.
It's not their,
it's not their primary.
If you have the kind of money
that he's got.
Hey,
what are you guys doing today?
Can you do my favorite?
What?
Take the day off tomorrow,
but today I want you to buy Bond.
Buy Bond and get rid of the broccoli.
Yeah, can you do that?
Why?
Because I like Bond.
Okay.
And then I'm going to go into space.
For shits and giggles.
I'll be in space.
When I get back from space, I want you guys to buy bond.
It's like, you know, it's a hobby.
Joe for show.
Well, I'll be a parakeet's second cousin.
Does paramount want to make a suicide three that bad?
Jesus, because they're going.
Yeah, I mean, we don't know.
Like I said, I just keep saying it is not even close to over yet.
I mean, yeah.
And we won't find out for quite a lot.
while. Yeah.
What's good? What do you? I would
February 2027, I think, is when this thing finally wraps.
What do you think? What do you think?
I think after the split in next year and April of the next year.
I think that's what we're going to sign off? Yeah. You think that's when they're going to sign off?
The splits happening in April of next year. No, but you think that the deal's going to sign off.
They're going to get approved by then? I think after that split, yes.
Wow.
Because look how fast Paramount Skydance happened.
That was fast when it finally happened.
If Serendos jumps over all the hoops and satisfies Trump and his FCC and all that shit,
then it'll be fine.
Okay.
All right, we'll see.
Tristan Culberth, don't forget about the people who don't mind watching movies on their phone or tablet too at home.
If they don't have big TV and it's a lot.
You're 100% right.
There are tons of people.
And Serendos said it.
There are people who watch stuff on their phones.
It's a different generation.
They watch stuff on their phones.
And it's like, and I don't disdise it.
agree with, again, our colleagues who are arguing against that it is not the same experience
to watch it on a big screen as you have it.
Agreed.
That's not the argument.
The argument is, are they doing it?
And the answer is a resounding yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jago, 24.
Thank you.
25 so far, John.
25 is 25.
Come on, Bob.
I don't know.
Yeah.
It's 70.
Slower day, my friend, slower.
Yeah.
Gen X.
Kid.
73. Hey, y'all, it's your girl, Renetta. What's up, Renata? I'm co-signing everything you said about
Ted Sarandos. The man is spitting straight facts. It just, you know, I understand with especially
people who, you know, let's say the middle, middle class people and or not middle class people,
and they're going, what do I care about is billionaire? What the hell this guy's doing? You can still
look off to the side and say, hey, I don't, I don't think billionaire should be billionaires,
but I understand why that guy is a billionaire.
Right.
I don't I mean.
Like,
you know,
he's just,
he's got,
he's got a guy knows how to make deal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm fascinated by people who think they know more than these guys
about what they're doing at that level of business.
It's,
it's,
it's Monday morning quarterback, right?
Yeah.
Kenneth Colton.
Why is that a saying by that Monday morning quarterback?
Shouldn't it be Tuesday morning?
Because Monday morning quarterback is,
is because of Monday night football.
We didn't used to have.
Right.
Change it.
football.
All right.
Do you do now?
Monday morning?
It doesn't,
doesn't line up.
We're here for you.
No,
you're not Tom Yamis.
Oh,
boy.
Here we go.
Kenneth Kulner's dropping
Paradise Season 2 on February 23rd.
That's two seasons and 13 months.
I wish we got that more off
from other shows.
It's also a damn good show as well.
But it's also a matter of how long it takes to shoot and schedules and stuff too.
Not every show is able to do that, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love first season and the trailer popped up over the weekend.
Looks good.
That's what Harold Peron?
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's, um, this one's, uh, um, the guy from This Is Us.
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
Right, right.
I feel like he gets nominated for everything he does.
He's so good.
Yeah.
John D.X. Dragon.
Hey.
Has a long time DC fan since the 90s.
It's really hard to invest money for a new universe and we really don't know what's happening.
Zazov extended guns contract, but things can still change.
Oh, totally.
I don't disagree with that.
that things can always change whether there's contracts and other things going on but i i think but
what i would feel confident on as a dc fan right now is that they're confident enough in what they
have upcoming that they want to see it through i'm confused by the term invest money are you buying
stock in wb or do you mean just that you bought tickets to a movie i think i think they means like to go
out and and buy you know to go out and see it in theaters and support it that way i think that's what
you're okay all right um yeah i can understand that then because you're like
Well, you know, I think more of the time is that it that makes more of an investment than the money necessarily because you start to care about this.
And I think I see where you're coming from because if it doesn't work out or they change again, you're like, well, why did I care about it?
Right.
Because I mean, that was the way I felt when they walked away from Henry Cavill as man of steel because I really thought he was going to get another shot to show what he could do.
And I was upset and Ben too. I love Ben as bad. So, yeah.
We're now coming back in. Hey, Roken. Hey, I don't watch football.
on Sundays with snacks, and even I can tell something wild is happening with the Browns.
What's the tea?
Shador looked good yesterday.
Listen, I have been on the whole, like you guys are making stuff about Shador.
He hasn't shown anything yet, but you can't deny yesterday.
364 yards passing three touchdowns and some beautiful throws, some beautiful touch throws.
So, yeah, I don't know what's going on there, but something happened there.
And they need to let Shador play out the rest of the year to see what he can do, because I don't think Dylan Gabriel's the answer at all.
So yeah.
John D. Extrack.
I generally feel bad for Reeves.
He's the only one to give a universally love movie since Nolan.
He's earned his way.
Too much content with two DCUs can also be a turnoff for many.
I've always had that thought about, you know,
there's a possibility to be a turnoff.
However,
there was still a lot going on when he put out Batman in general
and all the different stuff that you could watch and Marvel and that.
And the Batman did well.
If people,
and I think John says this,
and I agree with them,
if people want to see it in the theater,
people will see it in the theater.
Now, what they need to do is because it will have been almost five or six years
from the first one to the second one, they got to do a heavy push on promotion.
I would be more worried if I'm James Gunn and the rest than I am Reeves.
Because if this movie hits, it's like, then you got to, your next Batman, whoever
that is, has to compare with that one.
Because if you make it completely different, then that's what they're going to do.
And I think it'll be a mistake.
Yeah.
If they're going to make it so radically different from Hives, so they,
so they can differentiate and say,
no, this is,
this is two different Batman's,
but people are responding to this,
and he responded to Nolan's tone in that way.
People respond to that Batman in that way.
It's the other kind of can't be cheesy stuff
that isn't working as much.
Yeah, great.
Battery, Ivy.
Derry was good, so here's B-Man.
L-L, L-L, logic is weird.
Derry was good, so here's B-Man.
Oh, Darry is good, so here's Batman.
Logic is weird.
No, but he was already on.
They haven't, they haven't, uh, locked down the director.
So he, but he's already supposed to be on it.
He's supposed to be on it.
But, you know, yeah.
I don't understand that comment.
Derry was good.
So here's B man.
Logic is weird.
Huh?
I don't get it.
Like he was already, he's already attached to direct it.
Right.
I don't understand that comment.
Uh, battery also says,
Predator's going to lose money.
Budget was 105 million.
I thought it made, let's see, Predator.
Did, I'm going to ask you, did Predator Badlands?
Did Predator?
Badlands make a profit.
That's what I'm going to put in there.
Predator Badlands became the highest grossing film
and Predator franchise grossing over $175 million
against a reported $105 million budget.
It likely hasn't made a significant theatrical profit yet,
needing closer to $200 and $250 million.
But strong streaming, digital performance,
and positive words says it's going to be profitable for the studio.
So no, it wasn't going to lose money,
but it didn't, but it didn't make a huge profit.
So half of that is right, I guess.
I don't know what's going on, Barry.
What's going on?
All right.
So number 29 there.
You got 29 there.
Not bad.
Not bad.
Not bad.
Keeping it up.
Okay.
By the way,
Stranger Things first four episodes,
fire.
My 15 year old son and I are officially hooked,
got our tickets,
and ready to ride.
That's cool.
That's going to do very well in the theater.
Yes.
Yes.
From what I ended up for.
Not charging a ticket.
It's a voucher.
we're trying it about because they can't charge i think they can't charge tickets for the showing so
they are charging you a refreshment voucher that you can trade in to get food to be there uh to watch
the film i think that's how it's going down okay well we're let us know i'm curious but yeah
have you watched season five yet i did i did uh the first two episodes little creaky little
to get to where we're going but then that last episode sweet mary mother of god that was great
so good yeah i think that those two led us to that but i
I dug it.
I dug it a lot.
Doug developer,
rewatched the class,
jingle all the way.
I'm going to watch out with Steph too.
Say what you want about is active abilities,
but you can tell Arnold always commits to a role.
Same with Cena.
Arnold always commits to a role.
Yeah.
Every time.
Like,
just we,
because,
you know,
now Steph has now watched a handful of Arnold movie.
Literally,
that's a great kind of,
I guess,
plug here is,
as soon as this is off the air,
I'm going to make a total recall live.
She had never,
she had never seen that before.
So we watched,
total recall and it's just so much fun
to revisit. You just see why he was just a massive
movie star. Yeah. Yeah. It's so
massive. You got a lot of nerve
showing your face around here.
Look who's talking.
He says, look who's talking. So good.
And you know who that is, by the way?
Arnold Schwarzenegger. No.
Who he's talking to? No.
It's Hank from Breaking Bad. Oh, that's right.
That's right. Yeah. With hair.
What's his, oh my God, what's his name in that?
Thank you. It's not Philip. What is it?
Thank you, Tony.
Tony.
Thank you, Tony.
Madman, 19, and Joshua.
According to YouTube,
we have watched 649 videos on the channel this year.
Holy moly, thank you.
Love the channel. Keep it good work.
That's very, very kind of you.
Thank you.
Well, you're keeping us, you're keeping us going.
Thank you very much.
Mike Joyce, so it's a sentimental value.
I love it. Very good, solid movie again, too.
And I like the way they blended it back and forth and you,
with their language.
And I really liked it.
You?
Very moving.
Very moving, very touching.
and Scarsyard was incredible.
And so is Elle.
I mean, L is,
I'm talking right now.
We're about to watch Elle explode.
She's going to...
Yeah, she's already kind of definitely stepping up.
A hundred years and her sister.
She's better than her sister.
We don't need to go there.
It's better than sister.
Come on.
That's not what we want.
Come on.
All right.
31 so far.
Oh, this, do you watch the...
You didn't watch Derry last night?
I did not watch that.
Everyone's saying how amazing this.
I'll be watching it.
It's a great episode.
There's one long.
that I'm going to spoil for you.
It's a great line.
Okay.
I'll see you shit asses in 27 years.
So,
yes,
who was that guy?
He was the best is who that guy was.
It comes out of nowhere.
Don't know if you ever see him once.
And if you do,
it's such a small part.
He is forever going to be remembered
as my favorite character on that show.
Out of nowhere,
we'll see you shit asses in 27 years.
No one calls people shit asses anymore.
And he does.
Absolutely amazing.
Yeah, I loved that.
I'm glad that you pointed that out.
Okay, 31, as we are rounding it out, coming to the end here,
unless, you know, if people want us to come on.
Yeah, let us know.
You want us to keep going.
All right, let's see.
Is that it?
Maybe that's it.
Oh, no.
I got 31.
I'm going.
I'm moving down the line.
Hold on.
There's a lot more.
I see.
Oh, you see a lot more?
Okay.
Oh, there it is.
Okay.
Brian O'Neill.
There you go.
Reading the magician's nephew book at the moment,
Greta Garvey's Narner prequel,
the white witch is running around 1900 London,
hitting people with a poll,
pretty terrible.
I'm telling you this movie,
yes,
I,
for one,
I like the Narnia movies.
I like the Narnia story,
right?
So for me,
do I initially like the changes
that she's making and all this stuff?
I don't.
Does that mean that I won't see it?
No,
of course not.
Does it mean that I'm going to stop my feet
and go,
oh my God,
I can't watch this.
No, I don't like the choices she's making yet, but I have not seen the film.
Yeah.
So the thing is what this is going to do.
It is initially going to piss people off.
It already has some of the casting and other things she's doing.
However, what it allows her to do, this could cement her.
She already has a billion-dollar movie on her belt, right, with Barbie.
This is the movie that she's coming up.
If this movie hits and she redesigns Narnie,
and it hits and she makes it her franchise.
She's going to go into another stratosphere.
Yeah, agreed.
But on the flip side,
if the pushback is so big and it does not deliver,
is she going to be in,
she's going to not be in trouble,
but she's going to get off of her pedestal a little bit.
Yeah, some of the boom will come off the rose.
Yeah, I think this is a tough situation for her.
She should have never followed up Barbie with this,
but, you know,
she had signed the contract. And I don't think she anticipated
Barbie was going to be this massive
thing. So
she's stuck in the situation that she's
in and hopefully to work out for the best because she's
a damn good director.
But we will see.
We will see. I love the Arne of books as well, man.
I grew up on those. It's going to be interesting. We'll see
how they do it. And if she's able to
redesign it and get, because she's going to get
a lot of naysayers on it, that's a
given. But can she bring in
new fans who find her
version? That's the magic trick. We'll see
she can do it. Julius Wyatt, you guys see big international contenders this year. No other choice.
Sentimental value. It was just an accident. It's segregated. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've seen them,
we've seen them all. I hope Lordy can get it. I actually just saw no other choice.
And it's really, he's just a good director, you know, and like it, it's hard for me because I don't
want to give away too much, but I couldn't root for the main character. Did you see it? I did. Yeah,
I did. I just couldn't root for the main character. I understand it.
I get the movie, very much so.
And why he does what he does?
I, again, without spoiling stuff,
there were just things that he did,
and there was just like, kind of a weak person.
I kind of like that it was a challenging protagonist.
Kind of like Marty Supreme.
Is it a challenging protagonist?
Yes, yes.
So it's a matter of like, well,
is he interesting enough for me to keep watching?
And I thought he was.
You know, no doubt, no doubt.
Interesting.
And that's why I watched.
the movie and I thought his wife was the star of the movie oh yeah yeah she was great um mike's movie
madness 24 saw hamnet but a powerful movie yeah jesse puckley is absolutely gonna win best actress i don't
think anybody can't say anyone who has a strong performance i i'm telling you like like
i remember saying you know watching and going okay i've seen a lot of great performances this year
and then i saw that i think i texted john and i was just like it no one's no no one's touching her she
just the scene at the end the scene at the end at the stage oh man that that that alone that wins it
yeah the amount of different emotions she goes in within seconds seconds of every emotion that you
can possibly imagine that is that that's it that's it agree yeah um okay let's see so 37 building back
guy here. Frank
VT8YFF. If Paramount
buys one or the other, what are the odds of Superman
2 opens with Clark saying he's wrong about
privy and Trevor actually deserved invasion.
Mike is a top podcast
for me. Screw the haters, Rooka such a bad.
That's hilarious. Thank you. Thank you.
I don't think they would have... I need
the haters, bro. I love, you know,
Christian knows this. I don't mind having haters.
It's part of the game. If you're
outspoken, you're going to get haters. Even Christian has
haters. So, you know, if you're outspoken and have opinions,
you're going to have haters. So please. But I
appreciate you watching that.
And he's totally right.
They'll throw, what's her face in jail,
hot girl in jail.
It's hilarious.
For just dropping him to his death.
She should go to jail.
It's straight up murdered that guy.
I mean,
she's murdering.
I think it was warranted.
Yeah.
It doesn't warranted.
It's still ain't the rules.
Yes.
All right, let's see.
Darian.
What up Darian?
Some people, Avatar is just Fereng Gullian in space.
Me. Dude, Avatar is fucking.
front of going in a fucking space. I bawled my way through.
Everett, too. Yeah, I mean, it is.
It's all about whether it works for you or not.
100%. Yeah. Yeah. That's really all this. Yeah.
I was dying. Oh, I almost left. I almost love those movies.
Drive, DJ, 846.
Rumors, the Batman 2 male villain and offer has been made to an A-lister from F1, Pitt or Bardem.
Is that true?
Bardem would make sense.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't think it wouldn't be Pitt.
I was just watching a little skyfall over the.
weekend i forgot how great he is so good he's such a good actor man yeah yeah uh john lawless
44 fifty you know hey rocca can you get jeff to be tackled again i actually played that clip
i played it i played it on the show that it was hilarious is that his brother that did that
yeah i swear to god i had no idea it was going to happen and neither did jeff clearly and the thing is
brother tags him in the face first so you know that's like those are old school brothers
absolutely hilarious you knew he was going to be on air and tackles him on the air was that was that was
that's the best it was really good uh trade porter saw kill bill the whole bloody affair yesterday
afternoon was really great it added scenes a more backstory extended fight scenes and extended
dialogue it really smoothed out the entire story here's do you do you know it's one of my
favorite tarentino movies it's in my top three it's in my one of my favorites and i was
invited to the to the thing and i didn't go oh it was the day after i saw avatar i couldn't do
three 15 and then four 30 two two days in a row i just i didn't have the strength
but I do
yeah
is he going to be there
is he going to be there at the
no I don't think so
I don't think so
but what a weird
what a weird PR campaign
he's having for this movie
such a moron
he's such a man
what are you doing
I don't get it
I know
like what are you doing
like yeah I saw Greg talking about it
with Koi and I thought Greg's
feelings were absolutely spot on about it
it's like we love this guy
for so long but you don't love the guy
that he's become over the last
few years and he's 100% right it just it seems so petty it's so it's punching down like crazy like
like why and then and then did you hear and so like look look i've been i've had an opportunity of
interview matthew little bit a couple times right and i love him he's one of the coolest most real
people you're ever going to meet he's just a good dude i love his response to jarence you know he he goes
look he goes it hurts your feelings another thing you say about hurts your feelings he goes and he's like
in this room i'm popular because is that like a comic con or something he goes like but i'm
clearly not popular in the Hollywood circles and it hurts my feelings. He's like, but you know,
it is what it is. You say, that sucks and you move on. And there was, the only winners in that were the
ones he was talking shit about. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. Paul Dano didn't say a word.
Yes. And then everyone's come out. So, yeah, Ben Ziller came out and support him, but like all these
people came out to support him, which in essence was a way of slapping Tarantino on the nose with
the world. It was also one of the best things that happened to Paul Dano for his career because who was
talking. I mean,
look, not that, not that he wasn't great,
but who's, who's, who's,
he even mentioned Paul that if I would have said to you,
do you like Paul Dano as an actor?
He'd like, yeah, he's great.
But no one was talking about Paul Dano.
He's not in a movie coming up or anything, too.
But now everybody's talking about him.
And why are Owen Lillow,
why are Owen Wilson and Matthew Lillard catching strays on this?
Like, right, right?
And who are you to judge acting you?
Not acting.
He's a, he's a horrendous actor.
Horrendous, horrendous.
Horrendous.
28,
28 Vasco. This is a bizarro NFL season.
It really is.
Let's see. I want to see something.
I want to make sure.
Because, you know, the Giants, as we know, are two and 11,
and the commanders are three and ten.
My commanders suck.
No, they're both terrible.
You made J.J. McCarthy look like Dan Marino yesterday.
I know.
Well, I just, I want to just make sure that the Giants get a good pick.
That's all I want.
They need a receiver.
The Raiders are number one now because the Titans went off in one yesterday.
I know.
Dary.
Broke.
How are the father, son themes in season two of Landman hitting you?
These past two episodes have been excellent.
Andy Garcia and Sam Elliott.
Is it great?
That's too much emotion.
It's fucking hard, man.
I, you know, I've been missing my dad lately a lot of some reason.
And I just watching those episodes is fucking wrecked me.
I can't even review it.
I've got to get, because I get too emotional when I start.
So, yeah.
It's really good this year.
Okay.
I got a, I got to, I still haven't watched it.
I know.
Gerard, would there be a Van Dam movie you think would make a good remake?
Mine would be either Lionheart or Double Impact.
I mean, I'd love to, it just depends on how you did it.
You know, like Bloodsport would be interesting.
Kickboxer could be interesting.
Yeah.
Lionheart.
Lionardt's underrated Van Damme movie.
I love Lionard.
Lionard.
It's the best.
So good.
Best.
Yeah.
Bloodsport with the Rock would be amazing, right?
Especially after Smesher machine.
Universal Soldiers.
Probably one that they could do.
Now with the AI and everything too?
Well, his best one was TimeCop.
So TimeCop's one they could do also, yeah.
Right?
Right.
Totally.
Yeah.
Yeah.
CB, the legend.
Is it wrong for Figey to drop Doomsday trailer on Thursday?
That's the rumor.
That's the rumor.
My kid's self would have, never believed we'd get R.D.J. Toby and Hugh in one movie.
Um, would it be wrong?
No.
Because they were already planning on doing that, you know, because they were going to drop it during
the avatar screen anyway you can't you cannot especially now a super girl it would be such a colossal
error and i know that christian winston feel otherwise it'd be such a colossal error to drop that
trailer first exclusively in the theater and not put it on the internet first it will get leaked
and it will ruin the quality of your film i agree 100% yeah i agree with you i agree with you yeah um
people drop leaks all the time even coming out of comic con and they have guys walking around
Comic-Con throughout entire
panels up and down the aisle to make sure and still
people record stuff. It doesn't matter. I don't think they should be dropping it
on the same day. I agree with that. Why
rush it? Why not drop it next
Thursday on the day Avatar comes out?
Oh, next Thursday as opposed to this Thursday.
Right. Right. Or even next Tuesday
or something. Right. I agree with that.
I agree with that. If they're putting... But
for us, it's like, all right,
you know, react to two trailers. Why not?
Content.
made content.
But the other thing that I, you know, did you hear this rumor?
You know, because they're re-releasing endgame.
Yes.
So have you heard the rumors about this?
Go ahead.
What are the rumors?
So the rumors that I saw, the two.
One is that they're going to do a new post-credit scene for, because there was never really
one for Endgame, obviously, but they're going to do a post-credit scene that leads into
Doomsday, which I could see.
Now, the other thing that was rumored is that,
The post-credit scene is pretty much going to essentially retcon everything that happened after it's going to be a direct sequel from end game into Doomsday.
And it's going to essentially retcon everything.
Go back to what people were saying is that everything that has happened in between has been on different Earth.
Oh, man.
Right.
Okay.
I mean, you could do it that way.
And you wouldn't be, you could do it that way.
You could do it and go together.
All different Earth.
and some of these people will survive and some of them won't.
Well, it ends on Peg and Steve getting their dance, right?
And so the rumors are,
that it was what Steve did in returning the name.
That causes all of us to have for Dr. Doom to come after him.
So I guess it makes sense.
The horrible rumor I've heard about the trailer is that the trailer is essentially going to be
the post-credit scene of Thunderbolts with an extra 20 seconds.
And if that's what happens, I'll be fucking pissed.
Well, remember, my report that I had,
And yeah, I know you said like 30 different iterations.
There's so many different trailers that they've put.
And then the other rumor that I heard that was not from me was that they're actually going to put a few different trailers out, which would be interesting.
I'd be great.
That'd be interesting.
I'll be right back.
What do you do?
I can use a rest of real.
All right.
Well, how about answer this?
Oh, see you later.
Okay.
How about Sean?
Hey, team.
Set up a page up my brother after the house for a yes.
Let me link somebody on my IG thanks.
As always.
Sean, tag me on it and I'll retweet it.
So, yeah, please.
I'll retweet it.
Jose, I'm saving yours until Roka gets back from his piss break.
Okay, let's see.
How about this one?
Bell-Falcone.
Will you check out the Monsters Eng football broadcast on ESPN tonight?
Simpsons and Toy Story ones were fun for the kids.
That's pretty fun.
I'm not if I'm going to check out because I'll probably forget.
But that's fun.
That's fun to do.
Trey Porter.
Saw Jay Kelly on Friday.
I thought it was okay.
Sandler was really leading on more
for the down-to-earth and emotional moments.
I agree with that.
Last 10 to 15 minutes was a fourth ball break
tribute to Clooney's career.
I agree with all that, actually.
I thought it was good.
I don't know about great.
There are other performances and other things.
I'd like to see Adam Sandler get nominated.
I think that'd be good.
I don't know he's going to win,
but I like to see him get nominated.
Okay.
So let's see.
Chris.
Daniel.
John.
Oh.
There you go. Is that the same one?
This might be a repeating one.
Okay.
Let me double check.
We'll start with this one.
Christina,
and what are your thoughts on the Mosella situation?
Well,
no one can hear you.
Oh,
and I guess this is,
and Jose is also saying the same thing.
Oh, okay.
Yeah,
basically that he,
I think essentially he,
he put his private,
the company's private business,
or the club's private business,
uh,
in public and you should never do that.
And I have no problem with them,
with him not making the trip to Italy.
And I think they should sell him.
He should not play for the team anymore.
You have to stand behind the manager,
and he tried to have a power play,
and it's blown up in his face in a lot of ways.
And I think we should sell him,
go get Semenyo, go get Guahi,
and send Kanate on his way as well.
That's my thought.
That's true.
Legend.
M. 600.
Were you guys thinking about the NFL game yesterday?
I will tell you that I was Christmas,
my entire day was Christmas yesterday.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tell me about it.
You didn't watch anything yesterday.
Oh, putting things together.
Right, right, right, yeah.
Getting trees, putting the, you know, putting the ornaments,
uh, Christmas decorations outside of my house, putting, you know,
decoration inside lights and everything too and everything else.
You know, I do none of that.
Like I don't do any of it.
She does it all because-
You don't help?
No, we tried it the first year where I helped and it,
she ended up yelling at me and I just wasn't good.
I'm not good at those things.
I'll build furniture.
I'll put the tree up, but she's the decor.
Well, yeah, I mean, but I'm usually, I'm usually there just to say, what do you need me to, like, because like, this is what this is, I'm with you on this because, but I, because my wife will be, you should, she'll make this stance and she'll go, right. Well, I, I'm the one who's always decorating it. Why are you going to do? You put the, you want, so let me, let me explain this. So you want me to take these lights that we just bought. And you want me to design them outside and wrap them over the trees. And I go, I will do. I go, I will do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I will do. I do. I will do. I do. I will do. I do. I do. I
that, and I have no problem doing that.
But you know, as well as I do, that the moment I walk in, it was off to the wrong angle,
the moon didn't hit it the right way.
And so then we're going to be out there for another 20 minutes designing exactly how you
wanted to.
You just wanted me to walk out there to say, oh, I'll do.
I'll do it.
And then you can tell me how I did it wrong.
So why don't we just skip that step?
Yes.
That's what we discovered after the first time doing together the first year.
I was, I was like, honey, I am in the way.
The thing is, I provide, I buy everything.
I'm like, honey, I'll pay for everything.
I want, because I like the house to look.
Like, I love Christmas.
I'm an ape.
What you want me to do it?
Exactly.
I'm terrible at this.
I'll throw red and green against the fucking paint.
Just throw it against the house.
It was great.
I just took down my neon beer side.
What are you talking?
What do I know about decorating?
I'll be there.
Give me the thing.
I'll hang it.
Yeah.
I'll buy her Starbucks.
I need to design it.
You don't want that.
No, no.
You want to tell me how I did it wrong.
Girard, Kansas Chiefs have shattered my soul.
I can't believe.
I would have told you they were going to make it to the, to the, to the.
Here's what I'll say.
Here's what I say.
Shut the F up.
You've had an incredible run.
You've won number of Super Bowls.
You've been in the contention.
Shattering your soul.
Why don't you appreciate what you've had?
instead of trying to be living in a place that you might have lost it for one season.
That's how it goes.
Yankees, we were a thank you fans in 2000 and, you know, we won that in 2002.
We said the same thing.
Yeah, but I was always, I was always like, well, we've won titles.
I never was crazy about trying to win a title every year.
It's impossible.
Eric Kirby, 5310.
Mr. Roga, what do you have thoughts on the Ghost of Yote so far?
And did you play Spider-Man 2 and thoughts on that game?
Yeah, I love, I'm loving Ghost of Yote, still working my way through it.
Spider-Man 2 I played when it first came out because Yuri is my boy.
Yuri and I, Yuri Lowenthal, the voice of Spider-Man.
We hosted a podcast for a year and became friends.
We are friends.
And we hang out all the time.
We talk all the time.
And he's a really great guy.
So any project he's a part of, I like to support.
So yeah, absolutely.
Spider-Man 2 is great.
Okay.
Hunter, 13-02.
Met Matthew over the weekend at a con.
Couldn't be nicer.
Had him signed a paddle for it without a paddle.
It's hilarious.
And Bonnie Summerwell was in that movie, too.
Yeah, yeah.
So Matthew is the best.
You should post a clip from that interview you had with.
I have.
I have.
Yeah.
I mean,
well,
you know,
it's so weird.
I posted something,
I posted a handful of clips with that,
remember my clips channel.
And there's one where he talked about joining a scream.
And this was before he was announced that he was coming back for it.
And out of nowhere,
it just started blowing up again.
It's got over like,
almost like 200,000 views on it.
Nadia,
any possible soprano.
reboot coming being that Netflix bought Warner.
That has nothing to do with,
you know,
unless like Sarandos has a better relationship with David Chase
than Warner's does,
you know,
because that's a David Chase choice.
That's not,
that's not anybody else's choice.
Like they have to say, you know,
and the only way that I,
and he won't do it because he didn't focus it on that last movie.
Yeah.
The only way you can really,
you got to get Michael Gandalfini to play,
Young Tony.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And look, and I really like the actors that they, in general, but the guy, and I like the actor
who plays, in general, I like the guy who plays Silvio, he was terrible, Sylvia.
He was terrible.
I thought Billy Wack, Magnuson was actually good as Pauly.
Oh, you mean in the movie.
In the movie.
In the movie.
I agree with you.
There's a lot of bad casting in that movie.
Sylvia was, you can't play Sylvia as a cartoon.
Right.
Oh, no.
It doesn't, it, it, it, he was already the way that Stevie played him was just a heightened version of himself.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he's, he's like, you know, but it was, it was bad.
It was caricature.
Yeah, you got it, you got to, you got to recast that.
But they're not going to do it anyway, so it's a move point.
Mike, Alastra, I like watching reactions.
Thank you.
I like how you don't have to mention the year it was made and when the movie has a gay slur or something raises.
For, for which, oh, yeah, I mean,
Like, I feel like there was something else that I saw recently.
There are movies that were made in different times.
Yeah, yeah.
And necessarily applaud in things that were happening at that time.
But there were things that just, look, there were things that happened 15 years ago in how people approach things in humor and other things.
Yeah.
Again, not defending whether or not it's right or wrong.
But when you're talking, but when you're talking things that you, like the way society moves and you don't see things until things are pointed out of the things.
Like there was a whole article like, dude, where's my car recently?
Which I've always thought was a terrible movie.
But the writer just recently came out and said like, oh, it's so cringe worthy and watching.
And I was like, the only reason you're saying that is because you probably had a ton of people who came out and said to you, hey, how dare you do this movie now?
And it's like what he did say inside the article was like it was a product of its time.
And maybe back then it was a little bit more acceptable, acceptable, some of the jokes we were making, which is fair.
Because you look at like there are, look at, look at Eddie Murphy Delirious, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Eddie Murphy Delirious in 1984.
If Eddie Murphy did that set today, he'd be canceled tomorrow.
But because you go back, it's still Eddie Murphy who said it.
If you go back and you watch 1984, Eddie Murphy's Deliris or 82, whatever it was, you'd go, oh, because that was how people talked back then.
Again, not saying right or wrong, but that's just how they were, it was more acceptable.
I still love those bits from Eddie and the, and the thing is, hey, Norton.
Hey, Norton.
Yeah.
I know you want to fuck me.
But Eddie has come out and apologized for those jokes.
And he's come out and said, like, yeah, I can see how those jokes were
public and I shouldn't have made them.
But, you know, you grow.
And when you're young, you're capturing the moment and you're saying the things that you're saying.
It's a different time.
Nothing wrong with growing up and changing.
Yeah, but, you know.
CB the legend.
Rumor is that the first scene of Doomsday is Stephen Peggy's house scene from Endgame
with Doom arriving.
Chris Cor said, three trailers for Doom.
Yeah, I mean, like I said, I heard tons of,
tons of trailer stuff, I think,
probably have been around the same time as he was talking about it.
And I,
yeah, I've also heard that stuff with the,
with that. Apparently they were in the trailer.
One of the trailer.
Oh, yeah, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised.
They shot scenes in that house.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Jose Rodriguez. A year, I had to leave my daughter and wife
in our family country because of the immigration process in life
for the last 10 years, both of all helped.
I'm glad that we were able to help you out,
Jose.
Absolutely.
As a son of immigrants, I totally hear you and feel you.
And my father wasn't around for the first eight months.
I was born because he was in an immigration process.
Oh, wow.
I didn't know that.
So, yeah, my mom had me without my father in the country.
Wow.
I did.
I never do that.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I get it.
Yeah.
Corn Emperor.
Love you guys.
When will MGM plus be free on crime?
Probably soon, right?
Is it in already?
It's, I don't know.
It's like five bucks a month.
But there's nothing on that, is there?
Oh, well, Spider-Man Noir is going to be on there, right?
But then it'll be on Hulu the next days.
All right.
So let's not get into a big discussion here.
But you asked for people to come and give you some challenges.
Rao is coming in, not.
Rolfo.
Why aren't you consistent for who gets involved with Hollywood?
You call out Saudis for killing one journalist, but not Israel,
for killing 235 journalists.
It's a very different situation because Israel is not trying to buy a movie student.
And so what I'm commenting on is someone buying a movie studio, which is in the purview of the business that we're in.
So that's what I'm commenting on.
The other side of things is that the Gaza and Israel situation, Israel and Palestine situation, rather, is very complex.
It goes back centuries.
And there are crimes on both sides.
There are innocent people on both sides.
And there is pain on both sides.
So to me, to be cherry picking where you want to be offended by or what you want to be offended by, I think is not.
the way to go about it. And you have to look at the whole thing. And there are not many of us
that understand the scope of how deep this goes. And for me personally, to speak on it, I feel
as offensive because I don't fully know the entire history of everything that's gone on and the
crimes that have been committed on all sides. So that's why I don't comment on.
Last one for now. CB the legend. With the new info, do you think Doomsday can make two billion?
I think without the information, it can make two billion. Yeah.
Can you get the interest?
What it has going against, well, look, what it has going for it is that it's the Avengers.
What it has going for it is that it has Downey and Chris Evans and the people who haven't been around in Marvel are coming back, right?
What it has against it, it doesn't have that build that Infinity War and Game had, right?
Yeah, yeah.
But there are, as we mentioned in the beginning of the show, John, there are just some things you want to see in the theater and an event-type film in this.
can be an event-type film.
It all depends on how it does,
how it's received, I think, by the critics.
Like, you know, Wicked for Good,
everyone's like, oh, it's going to make a billion dollars possibly.
And it's like, well, the critics came in,
wasn't received that well by the critics,
and then eventually the fans saw it.
And there are some very strong fans for the movie,
but there are people who saw it and didn't like it.
And that becomes the word of mouth.
With Doomsday, I think because Marvel's in such an interesting position right now,
Christian, it can go either way.
I think it'll make a lot of money,
but will it make the money it's supposed to make
if it's not that good of a movie?
And I think that's where,
we are all kind of in anticipation to see if we're going to like it.
And I have a feeling it's going to be a divisive film.
I really do.
We're going to have some crazy, I'm going to,
I don't know yet.
I want to see the trailer, right?
Like, because we're going to have,
I mean,
between Supergirl,
Avatar coming out,
the Doomsday trailer,
I mean,
the end of December is going to be pretty nuts, right?
Because I'm finally going to put my Morty Supreme out of the theater reaction out today.
Nice.
I've been sitting on it.
So that's going to come out.
And then there's really nothing else that's really too big out there besides that.
But I mean, that's those two, those three things are going to be pretty big in general, right?
I agree.
So we'll sit.
All right, John, before we get out of here, 49, where can they find you?
You can always find me at the Roka says on all social media platforms coming out with me.
There, you know, I'm an opinionated person.
Got a lot of things to talk about.
So come and hang out.
Maybe you'll agree with me.
But find me there.
and also on my YouTube channel,
YouTube.com slash John Roker says,
and look for an announcement sometime today
that I'll be going live either with Jeff or Solo
later on tonight.
So thank you so much, thanks for you.
Have a great Monday, everybody.
Oh, sorry, John, to me to catch up there.
Thank you, John, for being here with us today,
and thank you guys for being here in general.
In general.
Thank you guys very, very much.
Oh, Corn Emperor, who says,
agreed that Doomsday isn't going to be amazing.
I don't know yet. I don't know yet. We have to see. We have to see what is going on in general with this trailer. So John ends the day with 50. It's pretty good. Not too bad.
We got a lot of stuff going on. So when we have, we got my reaction for it, the latest one chapter or welcome to Derry. Episode 7 is up. You're Marty Supreme out of the,
theater reaction right after this.
I'm going to put my total recall reaction with Steph.
She had never seen it before.
So make sure you check that out.
We've got quite a few things going on this week.
Tomorrow, Glass Onion reaction with Sam.
And then Friday, I think we're going to is when the new, the new knives out drops.
And we'll be doing that one as well.
So make sure you comment, click like, Apple Podcast, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found.
Thank you guys so much for being here as always.
I appreciate you.
and I really appreciate the support.
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