The Kristian Harloff Show - James Gunn Responds if Guardians of the Galaxy Cast Will Show Up in the DCU

Episode Date: January 20, 2023

Will the Guardians of the Galaxy cast show up in James Gunn's DCU? There have been a lot of questions about the DCU and how it will be formed. Will it be a reboot, some new, some old? Momoa seems to have a part, so what about the Guardians cast. James Gunn was asked recently and we talk about his response and what it means. Jeremy Renner on the mend, Angela Bassett nominated for everything and will she win the Oscar? Speaking of Wakanda Forever, now that it is getting a release in China, will it hit that 1 billion dollar mark? new images of Kang in Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania. Lots to talk about today!  #DCU #MCU #Guardiansofthegalaxy #antman  MANSCAPED: Try the new beard trimmer! 20 percent off! Use BIG THING code at http://www.manscaped.com Check out the new Dune comics from BOOM STUDIOS! FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff Check Winston and Coy out on socials: WINSTON: https://twitter.com/TheSwaggyBlerd COY: https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-big-thing-kh-channel?ref_id=27393 AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1KPH42T0TP0PG?ref=cm_sw_em_r_un_un_djbxgIW5ZQMMg PATREON: http://www.patreon.com/thebigthingshow SCHMOEDOWN ARCHIVE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMovieTriviaSchmoedownArchives Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/harloff Become a Patreon of the Schmoedown: http://patreon.com/schmoedown OTHER GREAT CONTENT: REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT368qY7sfE0nKE4c04CqGvu TV REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT1LU-t2Z9AD5UJDiWW4pS_E STAR WARS SHOW https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT0XmfpbblkF9PY7uO2qhbN6 THE BIG THING PODCAST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT3KAwbzDsv6mdR-gwUiydQg Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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and we'll talk about that batman getting nominated for some stuff channing tatum finally said okay fine i guess i'm not going to do gambit sham too added to the list of movies that's getting a China release. That's going to happen. James Gunn, he was on Twitter. Can you believe it? Yep. He was on, and he responded to somebody.

Can you believe it? I can, because he does it all the time. And this time, they said, hey, is your Guardians cast going to be in the D.C.? And he responded. Talk about that. And Jeremy Renner, on the men. These are all topics that we could hit here today

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Cool. I'm done talking. Let's do it. Welcome back, everybody. Big thing, capes and cows. It's me. Coizandreau. Winston A. Marshall.

That's right. We're all back. It's a Star Lab shirt. It's not me. It's D.C. everywhere. I'm wearing a D.C. every day until James Gunn says something. You know what's not. One day it's going to be accurate. You know it's not real, right?

I've been to Star Labs. Actually, I've been to the set. So, like, kind of is real to me. I went to Jitter's coffee. I went to the Star Labs set. So I got to experience it. I had to shove so much animosity down when you said I was on that set. I almost, you know, hey, and I remember.

What set are we talking? The flash set. My friend's on the show. My friend's, she plays Nora. My friend Jess. Oh, I didn't know you knew her. Yeah, yeah, Jess and I go, that's why I was in South Africa for Africa burdens. I was with Jess on Black Sails.

I believe you. I believe you when you say these things, your friend and stuff. I do believe you. I'm telling you, sometimes I always wonder. You heard that robot too, right? I'm not crazy? Yeah, it's stupid TV sometimes. Oh, okay.

I was like, Jesus Christ. I thought I literally was starting to hear voices, and it's been a weird year already. But did you ever have that friend that, like, it would say, like, yeah, yeah, my friend Joe. He's like, you met him once. And he's like, yeah, yeah, we passed by each other in the parking lot. It's my buddy.

She flew me to South Africa. That's a real friend. But I do have bad habits. I've been working on it. The star beepery is something I'm working on. It's my buddy. You know? She flew you to South Africa?

You got a sugar model? I mean, it was a good time going to Black Sail sets and then Flash and such. I'm very proud of you. But what's the most of that? Oh, man. Well, we're back. We're all together again. Together again and happy again.

Look, we'll call it what it is. January has been slow. Yeah. Slow, but it's about the change. We've been talking about, so we're going to be going on a little bit of, I can't say tour yet, because the goal is we're going to do three shows live.

And I think the first show is going to be in Los Angeles, aiming for a March, April type of date. Don't know yet. Aiming for New York in June. And then aiming for Chicago and somewhere in September, October. Nothing is final, any of that. But as I was talking to the guys, we're building up because we're just around 64,000.

We're almost at 64. Yeah, we're almost at 64. So if we can get to, like I've always wanted to do 70. I thought that would be more. But I want to know from you guys in the comments, as we're talking about this, any one of those shows, Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, can you get there?

Will you be able to be there? Because when I'm talking to the promoter, it's like, well, how many people do you think you can get there? And I'm in back of the day where we were doing with Shmowdown events, Skybound was paying for it. Patreon was able to pay for a lot of this stuff too. I'm really doing this stuff. I'm going to be funding this thing.

So it's either three shows, three shows, and that's the end of it. Or you guys come out, say you enjoy the hood. We also have to put on a, good show. Yeah, and people are wondering what it's going to be. It's going to be stand up for the first hour and then the second hour will be a show. It'll probably be definitely for New York. I think half of it will be capes and cows and half of it will be myself, Brett and Roxy. Cool. Yeah. So we'll figure it out.

That's where I was living in New York. Let's do it. I'm here for it. Look, I can go up on there and do my mom's five minutes set about cracker ass crackers. It'll be great. Oh, good. Yeah. It's a good self. That's a good sell. That 95% of this audience, I'm just calling them crack as who's fine. Well, yeah. That's how you stole tickets.

I'm taking a butt in seats. I'm kidding. Winston will not be on the show. Coy will just be wearing the black night's shirt on, on, representing. The Winston pin on it? We wish you were here. Skype in in the last like three minutes.

Oh my God. And you cry. It was just cut right there. Christian on the button ready to cut. It was my favorite, like, TikTok video that I saw. Did you send it to me? You might have sent it to me. At the subway, when the guy walks up to the black lady behind the counter,

he goes, you guys sell crackers here? She's like, oh, do you guys serve crackers here? She goes, we serve everyone. Yeah, it's too bad. I should kill me, bro. It was hilarious. All right, listen. Do you guys feel like the news is slow because everyone's waiting on James Gunn?

I mean, I don't think that's the only reason. I mean, like, the studio, like, competition, though, like direct competition. No. No, because I feel like it's just like there's this pulse. No, because Disney's ramping up. You got the Mando trailer, obviously, A-Man comes out next month, so there's nothing to do for them right now. That's a good point.

January is slow in general, even with stuff like you look at Mandalorian trailer that came out, the Scream trailer that came out. Traditionally in January, even big things that hit, like those do okay. Yeah. It's just okay for some reason. It's nice to rest I've enjoyed it. The film industry, take out the summer, obviously, because, you know, most, you didn't, most,

people didn't go to summer school. If you did, you did for a little bit. But it's very similar to, like, school. You got off for the holidays, and then you don't get a major test or anything until near the end of the month. That's good point. It's kind of the same mentality. The industry has to ramp back up, like, two. I mean, I was even telling Christian before we started, like, all of a sudden, now the auditions are coming again.

Yeah. It's been quiet for a month, and now here we go. It's the first month I've lost subscribers on my YouTube, and maybe it's because of the Black Knight incident. But I really think it's because of it. I hope that would have added this. But it's been the first time I've been like, oh, it's slow enough that like it's, I don't have stuff to put out and then people are noticing in the first time in YouTube, which is, which is different.

You know, I just, I just, I also have not had anything other than to continue where we're making all this comedic content, but we're just waiting. Just waiting, yeah. I mean, look. We said last year how much February on was going to be bananas, but I didn't expect it to be zero to 100. I thought it'd be zero to 60, 60 to 100. January, February was fairly slow last year, too. I mean, it was, you were coming off a stone.

of Spider-Man. Yeah. And then it started to slow down a little bit. And then it just picks back up, but just the way it is. Yeah, it's slow at the moment. Anyway, let's get into some stuff because I'll go ahead and I'll start.

And as I mentioned up top, I want to talk about Angela Bassett, man. I remember us talking about this on whenever it was, I think, when Black Panther had just come out. And I don't like to be, I don't want to gloat. But I'm going to gloat. all of us are going to look because the three of us all said that this was an Oscar nominated type of performance not nomination type of performance for

Angela Bassett and awards and I remember and a lot of people were saying that to be completely fair but I just remember a few comments and this one guy in particular like LOL you think she's going to be nominated for awards for this LOL well LOL's on you Pally because she's being nominated all over the board so she's been nominated for Tons of stuff. She won the Golden Globe. She won the critics' choice. And here is a little bit more. This year's BAFTA nominations now have been revealed with Black Panther Waukana Forever star Angela Bassett once again receiving a best supporting actress nod. Batman also gets some love. But if you look at all the, Wakanda Forever, Angela Bassett landed yet another best supporting actress nod. And based on recent wins, she's now guaranteed to walk away with the award to some comic book. movie. That's expected to be case at the Oscars as well, and there's no denying that both wins could be well-deserved following her moving incredible performance. All right, we'll get to the

Batman thing in a second because I want to talk about Ms. Bassett. Okay, man, this is a big, I mean, there are performances, obviously, in the comic book that have been nominated and have won. Angela Bassett being nominated is, it's so well-deserved. It is, and then I don't, and I don't think it's one of these things, well, you know, Chadwick had passed, so we, we got to make sure that we nominated. No, no, no. She, like, I like that movie. There's no,

there's no arguing of how powerful she is every time she's on screen in that film. Every single time from the opening scene where she's in it, the first time we see her. And then there's a particular scene with, Akoye that is just, I mean, that's the one I think, if she wins the Oscar, I think it's because of that scene in general. But, yeah, Winston, I mean, like, we had talked, talked about this that she was probably going to get the nomination and potentially win.

Nomination was like, she's got to get nominated for this. We even said, you think she's going to get nominated? She should. The win was a little bit outside of like, who knows, because they don't normally go for comedy. Are you surprised that she's winning as much as she's winning? No, for a couple of reasons. I mean, in theory, I guess I should be. But one, you're talking about one of the most talented, decorated actresses ever.

And the only thing that's really kind of stopped it is everybody has put respect on her name. She's gotten the Oscar nom before. She got it for Tina Turner. Yeah, yeah. 94. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. What was that?

Love don't cost of it. What's wrong? What's love got to do with it? Sorry, love don't cost the thing is a Nick Cannon movie. What's wrong with me? So I don't play the Shmona. Shon's day. That's the other reason that's the other reason.

That's the only reason. That's the only reason. Oh, Jesus. But. Bidiani still play Shimon. But I don't. I don't know many actresses. I don't know many actors, period.

I mean, Bolton, it doesn't matter, that has the kind of clout, that has the kind of talent, that has, that has put together such a string of performances in the course of their career that hasn't ultimately gotten the gold. And I don't think that this is a situation

where it's like, here's a gimmee, Oscar, or after or anything for her. I think it's just a situation where people are remembering, do the whole remember who you are, show them who you are, like, she did that. She really, really did. And there's no argument, I think, that this, for me, is the strongest acting performance out of all of the MCU. And it doesn't necessarily mean that other characters weren't more riveting per se.

Like, say, what Thanos did, what Kilmonger did, all that kind of stuff, you might think of. But as far as just straight acting their ass off, I genuinely cannot think of anybody that's topped her like that. Coy, she had a very daunting task also, right? Because she's representing what we're all feeling for Chadwick Boseman's loss and not even this reality and fantasy kind of blending together where she's got to take this whole thing with the loss of Chadwick with the loss of her son. And she's got to use it in that scene. So she had to represent that as well.

So I think that's another reason why it's so powerful. I think this particular nomination is a really cool, like confluence of three different things. you've got the reality of us all feeling the loss of both Chad McCantichala as one key factor. You've also got Angela Bassett being so powerful in the industry for 30 plus years, like including that 94 is a while ago. And so I think that was also a moment of like she's in this billion dollar movie. People are remembering like Angela Bassett to scale, right? Like she's been on TV. She's been on making movies.

But I think this was a big like, oh my God, that's right. It's Angela Bassett. And then third, I do think there is an element. of everyone in this movie is incredible, and then she's above that in a way in performance. Like everyone in this movie does such good work, and the movie feels like a movie of great performances. But then the first thing we all wanted to talk about

was Angela Bassett. Like as soon as we came. So in a movie that's already at like, you know, a nine, she found a way to be at 11, on top of it being her long legacy of career, on top of it being the eyeline. It is, I think, the perfect storm of like, yeah, she should win. We were talking about Angela Bassett.

What happened? Great. What I say? What I do? Had a movie that's at a nine. She's had an 11th. We were talking about Angela Bassett, by the way. I get it.

I don't know why, but if I hear those two numbers together, I instantly am like, so I don't know. I'm sorry. Guys, it's inevitable. It's every week. I'm going to find a way. Well, we were talking about Angela Bassett when the trailer came out. Yes, we were.

That's the thing. Like, if she does that in the movie, then, because like I said, I don't, I, I, I, I've talked about it many times over. I think the movie's more like a 7.5, like 8 than, say, 9. I'm saying performances. Sorry, I was saying, I was. Performance is definitely. Yeah, I'm saying everyone. No, no argument.

But, yeah, but it's, it's, every time she steps on to the screen, you cannot take your eyes off of her. Yeah. And so I do think that she, I mean, I can't imagine there's a lot of people. who push back of why she's being nominated at all. But let me ask you guys this question now, too, after seeing the wins from Golden Globes. And I know Golden Globes have lost a lot of their kind of oomf over the last couple years, but still.

Every week, every week I forget to turn off my medicine. That's fine. But then we have this other, the BAFTA, whether she wins the SAG Award, so let me ask you, I'm going to put you guys on the spot here. Does she win the Oscar? Now, remember, not just because of the performance, though, but think about it because the Oscar committee and it's always legacy.

But it's also a matter of will the Academy vote for a comic book performance? So that's why, because we've changed the game a little bit when it comes to a critic's choice. Absolutely knew that that could happen. Golden Globe, again, knew that it was possible to happen from the voting as far as it's not as tight as the Academy. So with that being said, does Angela Bassett win the Academy Award, Winston? Can you, do you, do you off the top of y'all's heads, remember the other performances she's kind of up against in this award season right now? Let's see who she was up again. I'll tell you who she was up against, like, if you even.

Because my short answer is yes, because you did it with Heath Ledger. I don't think it has to be a situation where you have to die. Also, it's a Black Panther Award, which it's already set a precedent with the first one that is, it's seen differently. Absolutely. So you have that. I think it's Stephanie Shoe and Jamie Lee Curtis from Everything Everwear, both. I think both up for this support. See, that's tough, too.

If that's the case, Jamie Lee was incredible, but I think she's got Jamie Lee. That's not, I don't, you know, to me, Jamie Lee's performance was phenomenal, but that's not even necessarily the strongest out of the said film. I know that's not what they're looking at at the time. Sure. They're looking at the individual performances. So Angela Bassett, she, in the Golden Globes, Carrie Condon from Banshees

Jamie Lee Curtis for everything every roll at once. Dolly de Leon, was she in? Triangle of Sadness. Okay. And then, oh, great. All good. And then Casey Mulligan.

Oh, Kate Mulligan. Kay Mulligan. Carrie Muggan. Kay Molligan. She also doesn't play this round out of me. You're right. Carrie Molligan for, for she said. Yeah, what do you think,

so to that point, I haven't seen. any of those except for everything everywhere. You got to let me know you think of banchees when you see it. I will. Thank you. I definitely will. I think the difference here is we were talking about Angela Bassett's performance and damn, she's probably going to get a nomination if not potentially, like the minute it happened.

I don't think we were necessarily saying that about the other four of women that are kind of circling the drain. Yeah, but we also talk about it in a different way. I get it. I get it. But like, you remember when Wolf's. Wall Street came out. That has nothing to do with comic book stuff and we were instantly like, yeah, Leo's definitely going to win this and we were kind of shocked that he didn't,

that he ended up losing to McConaughey in Dallas Byers. So, like, you know what I mean? I think there are sometimes that you look at something and you instantly go, this is going to be a thing. Like when Get Out came out. So you said she's going to win? I think she will. Unless there's another performance that the Golden Globes maybe missed

one or something like that, that was a snub. Someone got a snub, yeah, I'm sure of it. Absolutely. No disrespect to anyone. else nominated. But for me, everything everywhere is a movie of incredible cinema and Michelle, Michelle Yo, is it? So Michelle Yo is, I think,

going to get some love this year for best leading actor. She might win. I can see Best leading actors, yeah. So, but I do think that's a movie that's a spectacle, and I love those supporting roles, but I see it going to her. And then the other nominees, I definitely love their performances, but the two that stand out as performances for me are Carrie Condon

and Angela Bassett. And I don't know if they're going to give it to Carrie Condon in a movie where I could definitely see the other Banshees boys getting stuff but I feel like there's been more conversation around them than her but as far as performances like I walked out of that movie thinking of performances in Banshees and performances in Black Panther I don't feel that way about the other films I thought of them as movies I'll make it easy for you it's a lock yeah she wins it it's a lot I think this is

I highly doubt Angela Bassett is going to go slap someone on stage but it feels very similar to Will Smith last year when when King Richard came out It's not that the other performances weren't like stellar. There was something very different about it. And you're talking about the legacy. And a lot of the Oscar voting feels sometimes like legacy. Leo had to fight a bear. Yeah, but I think more so I wouldn't have told you it was a lock two months ago.

Okay. When it came out, I would have said that she should and it would be crime shooting it nominated. But in my head, I'm going, I don't know if she's going to win because I don't know if I can see them voting for comic book movies. But now... But Black Panther, it feels like it's outside of them. I know, but now that the Golden Globes and now that the... But now that she's been nominated for everything, too, and I think that the points are...

I mean, like, all those other performances are really good. But they also didn't have to. And I think... And look, so I'll be straight up with my... So I voted in the Critics' Choice, I voted for her for Critics' Choice, because in my voting, I said, none of these other performances,

and I had seen all of them. And none of these other performances, to me, had to carry the weight and had to use that grief and be able to – I'm not saying – I don't know where the – like, there's also as an actor, and you guys know, you can pull grief from personal experiences in anything that you're in to make your performance elevated. But after being so public, it will happen with Chadwick and being able to use that for a motive for the character as well. It's not the only reason I voted for it because it was like – because that's not what – it was the performance. It was that it motivated and it made the performance better. So I guess the last few things on it. My first question is the actress from Vanges.

What's her name? Carrie Condon. Carrie Condon. So has she been nominated for stuff before? So she's been a powerhouse in performances that are not mainstream American films. So she's in this great movie intermission. She was in Heath Ledger's Ned Kelly. She's in a lot of things, but she's not really an American mainstay.

So I don't think she's ever been like in this circle here. That's fair. And that doesn't necessarily have to do it at all. But you know how a lot. Even though they are doing a lot of changes with the academy, it is still a lot of older voters. Yeah. And other things that they say all the time is it like, oh, you're young, you'll come back.

Like you just, it's your first time welcome kind of situation. 94 was 29 years ago. And so when you pair that, you pair the fact that if she's maybe the only other real strong contender, I could see Jamie Lee being a strong contender because she also has said legacy as well. There's also the campaigning, which I think Jimmy Lee Curtis is doing incredibly. Like the politics of it, Jamie Lee and Angela Bassett, I would say. say are the two. I agree.

I would say those are the three. I love Caramele as well. We'll scoot to the next one though, too, but I think Angela Bassett wins, and I think we're all on the same page. All right. So, all right. So, what are you got? I think I saw here.

I wanted to talk about it a few weeks ago when there was rumors, but I got to talk about this Tatum thing. Which was all the. I love that like there's an article in 2023 about Channing Tatum as Gambit. So I just, I got to give this some love. I think this is one of two things. I think this is Channing Tatum being on a Magic Mike press tour that's about to warm up

and everyone knows that if you talk about a comic movie or the headlines or two, this is Channing Tatum is in Deadpool 3 and he's reminding people he was ever cast. Yeah, so remember it wasn't just, it wasn't just cast, it was like he... They were making the movie. They were two weeks out from filming five times. I remember when this, it was so long ago,

but I remember the amount of money they were going to spend on this movie was I'm Schnep losing his mind. So mad at how much money. I think it was like $200 million they were going to spend on like a freaking on a freaking Gambit movie. And then smartly, they were like, no, no, no, let's not do that. So this is from Dark Horizons for many years. Chatting Tatum pursued a dream to star as the X-Men character Gambit.

Again, close very times after initially being cast in the last stand until his character was written out. He was then cast in X-Men Origins-War-Rourine until scheduling conflict led to Taylor Kitch taking on the role. And then came a solo Gambit film, which, was to be done in the mid-2010s with Tatum, sure, with Tatum doing various early press for it. However, that production was canceled before filming. He was out promoting Magic Mike's Last Dance, and this is what he said about the project.

Well, it got swallowed up into Disney by way of Marvel when they bought Fox, and ultimately, I just think that the tone of the movie we wanted to make was very far from what they wanted to do, or, you know, maybe they're waiting to see how they do it with us or without us. We'll call every once in a while, but we've got to spiritually, emotionally, kind of mentally let it go. That sounds like Tatum has come to terms with the solo film being scrapped, but it doesn't necessarily rule him out of being,

of ever playing the role should Marvel want to do a John Cresensky had Mr. Fantastic Style, short appearance in it for one of its upcoming projects like Deadpool 3 or the rumored to be multiverse spanning Avengers Secret Wars. I think, let's start with this. Well, Corey, you're the one that brought up the story, so what do you think? I mean, honestly, I think he could be saying that as authentically, as it sounds, because I know how much he loves the character, and I know how much he worked.

It was like three years of pre-production. He learned the accent. He's invested. They say I loves Gambit. I personally never saw him as Gambit because I see Gambit as like a different style of person, but I'd love to see Channing Tatum flex those acting muscles. I think he's hilarious.

I'd love to see that grit from him. But I think it's really interesting timing with Deadpool. Like we've heard rumors that Deadpool's going to be multiverse hopping. We know that Ryan Reynolds and Channing Tatum are friends. I think it'd be a, this is an interesting way to get people to be like, oh, right, he was cast, because the 2010s were a long time ago. I think it'd be more relevant to have a cameo

that feels like there's a Cresensky thing if it's fresher in her minds. Chen Tatum is also the king of cameos. He really is. He pulls up, he shows up, what was the one that he did where he was like the gimp? Dude,

this is the end. That was my favorite part of it. Also, Bullet Train, which Ryan Reynolds also cameoed in because they're friends and Lost City, which was last year as well.

Yeah, yeah. So I think he does show up in a cameo, but I would, if it was to me, It was for me, if I was making the choice, I would prefer to see him in Secret Wars. Because Deadpool to me just seems predictable. It seems like, okay, because of everything you just said,

he's friends, he's been flexing his comedy muscles now for the last like 10 years and to show up in something like that would be funny. But to have him show up actually in Secret Wars, because I want Secret Wars in general. I want that movie, like, if they're going to go as bonkers as we kind of hope. Yeah. because we hope to see more of that stuff in Dr. Strange didn't happen. Hope to see it in a few other movies, it didn't really happen, right?

So to be able to pull that off in Secret Wars because it's with everybody coming back and to have him show up in a brief stint as Gambit, that would be fun. But otherwise, I think the chances are not going to happen. Nothing would make me happier than if he does, they allude to him being Gambit in Deadpool 3. And it's like, oh, you know, we found this thief or whatever. And then they start playing pony Because of Magic Mike And they're like panning up on Gambit

And then they like just cut away You never see his face Henry Cavill and the Superman The Shazamble Even like even like even the bottom of his chin It's just like right here And he's so he's never actually He doesn't say any words

He just like cuts right before They do pony and they pan up And you're assuming that's And then it's Taylor Kish Oh my God That would be hilarious But yeah So something like that

And Deadpool they do it And it's like a gimmick kind of gets a good laugh, sure. But I also, I think that they're absolutely right that. Those are the two leading candidates, but there's also a major possibility, nothing happens whatsoever. Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest with you.

I really like Channing Tatum. I think he's actually a very, very good actor. And I think that, like, he does have a certain suave, but I agree, I don't think it matches with what. It's a different flavor of suave. Different flavor of suave to the point where I would actually look to, like, Tom Ellis from, like, Lucifer. I've always seen him a little dirtier, more of a Norman Redis.

Like Norman Redis, how he's, like, really charmed. but in a very, like, different way. Well, I guess that's why I went with Tom Ellis in the sense that because Lucifer again playing the devil, that same kind of suave, that's, that's Gamby. If you can do a Cajun accent, I can see it too, you just dirty him up. But like that, that energy. Channing doesn't give me that. He's just so handsome.

Like, Channing Tatum's like, oh, that's a handsome guy. So it's Tom Ellis. No, no, but like, in a way that's like, he literally played G.I. Joe. I don't picture G. I don't picture G. And Gambit as similar types. You see, do you kind of see what I'm talking about, Christian? Because I see you're looking at it.

Yeah, I don't. know well enough for Gambit to be able to talk on it. I just remember, like, I thought Taylor Kitch was fine. I don't know enough about Gambit to really compare anything to it. I don't see Gambit as a traditionally handsome. I see him as like a little left to center because he's got like that thief thing. I'd like to see Reattis do more. I'll tell you that.

Yeah, man. Ghost Rider if he's not. We were talking about him for Ghost Rider. I mean, it sounded like it was close, but I don't know how many they want to do and how far to that. I liked Reis a lot, man. He seems like a great dude. So I had, we had him on the Shmo's No show. in like 2013.

Because my buddy Naveed, who I'm going to have on the show again pretty soon, Navid was like, yeah, I can get Norma Moodis on the phone. It's like right at the height of walking dead. So, yeah, sure. And we called in and we talked to him for like a half an hour. But then when I was at, I was covering for Fandango. And he remembered that he called him my show.

And he's like, well, yeah, have that guy. So we went to his hotel room and just sat with him and talked to him for like a half an hour for Fandango. Awesome guy. He did a really good interview with John Bernthel recently on Burnthal's real ones. And it's so interesting. And it's so interesting because he's just so like, he's so captivating, but he's so intense.

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It's my buddy now. I was trying to think, can you think of somebody else that has the same kind of douchebaggery swave of Ryan Reynolds? Maybe like a, maybe like a Rob McElhenney. Oh, dude. Rob McElheny. He would be awesome. If he could get, if he can nail it. He's a little too traditionally handsome and still, but again, you can do that with makeup and how you're dressed. You need that douchebag-swab energy, and that's the thing. Gamut is definitely that dude that is pissing.

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Winston, you're up. Here's the next. We got a couple things up that we can talk about. Let's, what are we got? Before we jump into it, can I ask a quick question? No. I'm going to do it. You just did.

You just asked the question. Oh, fine. So we got to, because I noticed you didn't put it up there. So we got a China release date for Ant Man and for Black Panther. So why don't we go ahead and do the Shazam one because it kind of ties all together. It'll tie it in there. All right. So let's do that.

So why don't you tell us, tell us some of this stuff as we get there. Absolutely. So, you know, we've had a situation because of the pandemic that there have really not been a lot of releases for some of these mega blockbuster movies. You know, the last, I believe the last... Well, Avatar did it because Winston, it's almost at $2 billion. Go ahead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, they're like, ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

No, but that's... Number six of all time, is it? But if I'm not mistaken, that's one of the first major ones to actually do it, because before that, as far as Marvel movies, I remember seeing a report that it was, what, end game and far from home were the last two movies in China. They've done none of phase four. Wow.

And so you wonder why the box offices for these have done well, but they haven't blown out of the water has probably had a lot to do with that. And I honestly think that because of this, I don't know about I'm in quantum medium yet because, you know, I guess we've got to see how it does. I'm sure it'll do very well, but as far as breaking a billion,

I think this will actually give the final boost to have Wakanda forever break a billion. I don't. And only because of two things. One, and we talked about this other day when it was on Campi's show, is that the, it's going to help it. A billion is tough.

A billion because it's already at 800 right now. It's at 847. Right. So it would have to make $150 million or whatever it is. And that's a lot in China. So I think that I think it'll get close. I don't think it'll hit a billion. I hope that I'm wrong.

But I just think that it's, and because it's a later release now and everything too. But I think it might be tough. But it's also even when I think the last movie for Black Panther, the first one, I think, did $100 million, just about $100 million in China. 1.10. Right.

So, I mean, and that's, so it's going to be, I think it'll be tough to do. But either way, it does add box office, it's just how much box office is the question. The only reason why I'm leaning into it might actually hit that 150 it needs. Because you'll still have a few playing here when it's happening. I think what will do it is the fact that there have not been, there has not been a single Marvel movie since far from home. Like, not even, not even no way home. far from home. You're talking about... Yeah, no, I know. I know. It's possible. So I think just the thirst of like, oh, it's back might do it. Now, I get it. There's lots of conversations about, you know,

if black actors and whatnot actually do very well in China, like you see some of the marketing. The first one did $110 million. I get that, but you look at some of the other Marvel movies that were in China. They did a lot more. Right. There's, there is conversations about, like, when you looked at Star Wars, how they were cutting John Boyega out of posters and stuff like that. So there is some conversation there, but I think just from the standpoint of this is the first Marvel movie they're getting back, that it might do gang. There's no question that's

going to help for sure. And still, how it's, and this is a big thing for them to happen. And it's also the reason why is that they have like a set amount of movies they let into the market every year. And so they're starting to let a couple more in. I think that they realize also that

this is going to help their economy out as well. So they're letting these movies come now or approving more of the ones that are coming in. And one of those is Shazam. So we talked about how the Marvel movies are getting released. So you're getting a DC release as well. So in recent years, and again, some comic book movie, in recent years, China has significantly reduced

the number of Hollywood movies released there. However, between strict COVID protocols and lack of titles that appeal to wider audiences, theaters in the Middle Kingdom are nearing bankruptcy with the entire industry potentially on the brink of collapse. That would explain the recent decision to allow both Black Panther Wakana Forever for an Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania to be released there,

and it seems Shazam Fury of the Gods is next. An outlet affiliated with the Chinese government has confirmed the news, though we don't currently have a release date. Still, this bodes well for the Shazam sequel, especially with so much uncertainty surrounding the likelihood of actors and characters from the DCU, making the leap to DC Studios in the new DCU. It was easy to bid Black Adam star Dwayne Johnson Farewell

after that movie flop, but of Shazam Fury of the Gods is a mega hit, then Zach Levi might get the chance to stick around as the big red cheese. Those box office numbers will be worth keeping an eye on. That's for sure. All right. There's a lot with that. I don't know what to say when it comes to that last part with if it does well because is that true? I don't know if that's true because the same thing with the Flash. Is that true? I feel like Shazam's removed enough. It might be okay. I mean, Flash showed up in Justice League. Shazam had a half Superman. I don't know if. I'm just sticking with what Winston said, though. It's like, if you're going to reboot it, reboot the whole thing.

It should be a fresh slate. Yeah, it's just I understand that the problem that they're in, right? It's like, well, wait a minute. This makes money. Now that we can get the movie in China and we're going to make some more money. That movie just made a lot more. I made a lot more than the first one. Why are we going to get rid of Zach?

And Zazov was like, oh, maybe we should rethink this thing? We just have this whole thing. He's like, ah, that Flash kid, maybe we can, he's getting help. They're getting help. They're getting help. So what are we can do? I like Zach Levi a lot. And I thought he did a great job.

but if there was ever a reason to potentially do it, is that you can correct me if I'm wrong here, there's very rarely or ever do we see an adult Billy Batson. It's always like kid or maybe teenager Billy Batson and then he transforms into Chazette. And Asher's old. He's getting old because he, when they shot that, he was what, like 1920 for the first one? I think he was 17, 18, but I think he was touring at 1920,

and that was five years ago. Right. And so like he's... And Asher's great, man. Like, I like the kid and his acting, but there isn't a precedent for that character to have to shave. Like, you know what I mean? At the end of the day, like, touring with it's going to be hard. And Jack Dylan Grazer, Manscape's going to be ready.

I mean, they got the beer tour. But Jack Dylan Grazer as well, like, that character is really iconic to why Shazam works. I don't know if Jack Dylan Grazer is necessarily going to want to do it into his late 20s. Right. I know. So it's, so it's interesting. And that's a whole, we have the, I feel like we have this conversation as we should every week. And we're going to probably really dive into it once they announced that slate. But the news that Winston brought up, though, was the idea, and we said it right beforehand. China's in trouble with financial and the theaters could collapse. So it would, it's a smart decision for them to go, hey, whatever we were thinking before,

and we got to, and look at what Avatar just did. And the other thing that we're not talking about is you can guarantee that the negotiation behind this also was the second Iger stepped in. Oh, yeah. Like Igers was like, hey, let's talk. Let's say, you guys need it. We want, we want our movies out there. look at what Avatar just did.

So let us get our stuff in the end. You think Joe Pick went in there and he just pissed everybody off. He's like, you're going to take these moves. Like, we ain't taking... I mean, the timing lines up. I think there's just some people that are just bad in the room, bad on the call. There's somebody just like you, we know these,

but I don't know if he's a good guy or bad guy. I don't know. I don't know him, but I'm just saying these. There's certain people. You're just like, it's like, oh, I don't want to take JPEX class. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, he's one of those guys. You know, I got Professor Iger.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? he's like that. But it's true though, right? It's like, that's how you feel like. Remember every time you went to, like, it didn't, it didn't matter. Like, Professor Chaput could have been a great teacher. Yeah.

And you're sleeping within five minutes of his lesson. Yeah. And I agree. And Superintendent Zazlov isn't helping. So I agree with you talking about the first ice cream shop that ever opened up. You're like, oh, I learned about the ice cream shop today. And it's because it's just some people got it and some people don't. And it's, and it's the reason why it's, it's leadership.

And that's why, hey, one of the first things I'm going to do, I'm going to get on the phone with the, with the peeps in, uh, at the China theaters. I'm going to get our movies back in. We're going to make some money. They're going to make some money. Boom. And then that's not including.

And Zazlov, too, as much as I give him, he's one of those guys. You might not like him, but he's also, he's not a boring professor. He's like, oh, you don't know what the hell this guy's going to say in class today. You know, and he's that guy. So, but you're like, but he gets it done. He's been getting the job done so far. Now, we don't know if he can have the success level of Iger yet because he hasn't had the opportunity yet. But he's one of those guys.

He's like, hey, Iger did it? get Shazam into China now. Now that we're seeing all these movies come out. Okay, look, Black Panther, you see the news? Black Panther, we're going to get on the phone with them. We want Shazam in there now, too. And they got Shazam in there.

So, you know, it's all about leadership, man. I really love how hopeful everything feels with movies and phase five and everything going forward. Like, I know what kind of forever is going to get another boost, but I don't know if something feels different about Ant Man forward. Something feels different about like theaters opening back up. Like there's a sense of, like there's a sense of movies and scope again that I haven't felt in two years now.

No, I, I don't know. I totally get that. I think the other part of it is, this is, this, obviously with phase four being over, we're kind of at the end of act one. And this, with Antman, now we're actually having the true, what feels like the true inciting incident to like set off this infinity, I mean, this multiversal story.

Yeah, we've met the characters, and now it's time for the catalyst, and then that's going to be insane for two years, and that's high energy, that's action. I do think people are going to look back at phase four, more positively, after phase five, with context. I think so. Because I think we're going to understand, like, the reasoning behind a lot of the things that don't connect yet.

Yeah. All right. I'm going to go one more here, and then we'll get to the boom. The boom. Let's do it. So I want to talk about, well, there's two, I mean, there's a couple things I want to talk about. But I want to talk about Kang. There's some other news that's just come out recently about, I mean, this, this character is just going to be so impactful.

And Jonathan Majors is just everywhere you look. The fact that we get him so early, too, because, like, Thanos, we got just like, You know, the smile. We get the, I'll do it myself. But we really didn't get him until Infinity War and endgame. But we're getting him at the start of phase five. Yeah. Yeah, it's big.

It's big. So, all right. So this is, again, everything, most of the stories we get is from comic book movie. New Ant Man and the Wasp Quantumania Stills offer a look at Jonathan Majors Kang the Conqueror without his trademark costume, while we also see Hank Pim taking aim behind the scenes, photos, and more. Ant Man and the Wasp, Quantumania will come. kickoff phase five and is a movie that promises to turn the MCU on its head as we head deeper into the multiverse saga. Kang the Conqueror will take center stage in the three-quel, but we also will

see a different side of the MCU's latest big bad in these new released stills. No longer in this comic-accurate costume, the time-traveling villains stares long-lily at a device. It's thought that this will be his key to escaping the quantum realm. There's also a great shot of the wasp next to a honeycomb-like substance, funnily enough. while Hank Pym wields a weapon, not at all that different to Star Lord's element guns. We also have a couple of behind the scenes photos showcasing Scott Lang and a suited-up Cassie.

While many fans have complained that Marvel Studios has shown a little too much in the trailers, the new look at Kang, suggests that there's an awful lot we haven't seen. Hopefully, the Conqueror will be given that chance. So there's a lot about this movie as we see more and more and more with it. And I think we've all been saying this. Freaking, A man's going to die, what, like 50 times in this movie?

Yeah, over and... He's going to die a bunch of times. But who, if anybody, is gone? I think if I was to guess, Vegas odds to me, Michael Douglas and Michelle Pfeiffer at that. I'd say so. Yeah.

At least Michael Douglas. Yeah. If not both of them, at least Michael Douglas. I think there is, other than the fact that he's getting a little bit older, they didn't go with any of the traditional Hank Pim's stories. They kind of lightly touch him because they really decided. to focus on Scott Lang, which is fine.

I think that's a missed opportunity. Hank Pim is one of the most interesting characters in Marvel because he's got a lot of problems. Yeah. He is, he talk about a torture genius. Yeah. He has a lot of problems. Including the fact that he's actually the one that traditionally

becomes Yellowjacket first. Like he comes through and it's just like, I'm just going to, I'm tired of y'all and like just starts, tries to be a hero, kind of goes anti-hero, goes villain for a while. He kind of, so that being said, I think you've made it very clear that, Paul Rudd is the face of this.

So I think if you're going to let anybody go, you let go of Michael Douglas. I can also see Paul Red going too, though, because we've had, you know. I really hope not. I'm getting tired of the cliche of them having to kill off all the main characters. I know we've been there for a while with them, but it's like, granted, Thor's still around,

but he's just kind of a shell of what he used to be. Tom Holland, who knows the next time we're going to see him, Tony Stark's gone. Yeah. Steve Rogers is gone. It's like. Like widow. Like widow's gone.

So it's like, we don't need to get rid of him yet. I mean, I'm just thinking we have a lot of new kids. We don't have a lot of kids that we know their parent, not them. So it'd be a different thing for Cassie. Like it'd be a different opportunity for stature. Because we've got Thor with his daughter as a certain parental guidance. We had renter with his surrogate daughter in a way where that mentorship. We haven't really had someone like mourning the loss of their parent.

Right. From that perspective. And unfortunately, I think the predictable kind of thing that they're doing now with Marvel, this is what I hope this is the same thing like that I said with when when when Kyle when it was like he's going to turn good this is what would be predictable and I'm going to kind of go okay we're doing we're just it's just been done already a million times and this is what I think they're going to do if well this is what I hope they don't do that you could see them doing so far they're really setting up as you mentioned with Hawkeye as you mentioned also was

with Ms. Marvel there's all the younger I mean Florence Pugh as well all the younger characters are now coming into play to where the young avengers and all this stuff too it would be pretty predictable and probably probable if scotland does die and they give it a cassie and cassie's the new aunt aunt girl aunt woman and then and then and then she takes the mantle like that it just like we've we've just done it so many times already too is it's just i actually bet now that i think about it you you you make a solid point and i know she becomes stu Chatter at one point, I actually think they might kill off Evangeline Lily. And you get rid of, you get rid of Hope.

And then Cassie steps in as like essentially wasp. I think we're in an age. And I'm never this guy. I think politically there's no chance they do that. I think we're, I think, I think politics-wise, they would never do it. How come? What do you mean? They're not going to kill off one of their lead female heroes.

It's not going to do it. No, no. I think it would make sense. But I just know, I think they're right now. But you killed off Black Widow. Like, so it's not different. Yeah, but that was, and it was a different time. I get that.

And even though technically she's in the title, it's the hero, the wasp that's in the title. And Evangeline's character, Hope, has always kind of been, she's been a supporting character. She's never really stepped into that leading role.

And I don't necessarily see it, I mean, maybe, but I could see this whole thing where, like, maybe this whole, because I've only watched the trailers once. Does he specifically say,

I can give you more time with your daughter? or did she say I give you more time with her. Oh, interesting. Because since I've only watched them once, I'm just trying to think of it. And if that's the case, I would not be surprised that maybe that's what's going on. Yeah, but I think that would, I hope that's not what's going on because that would take away so much because the,

I understood inside of that trailer, he was incarcerated. Yeah. Even when he was on house arrest for two years, he lost, with the blip. Yeah, five years. I assumed it was about the blip. Yeah, but it was all of that. Sure, sure. It's all that.

He lost this stuff when his daughter in the first, well, he was jailed up for what, two, three years? Yeah. So he's only been there half for life at best. Right, at best. Yeah. Not even that. Yeah.

So, like, he, so that to me makes the most sense. I just, I mean, I don't know. We'll see. I think that if you're going to, I think it's more likely that Michael Douglas, Michelle Pfeiffer do, but if, if it ultimately turns out that Scott Lang has killed off and they're going in this direction, but Scott Lang could also show back up in Secret Wars. I mean, that's, that's what is going to be so different about all this, because what,

it's rum, we don't talk about this. Like Tony Stark is rumored. come back. Yeah, that's the thing. It wouldn't make sense not to potentially bring back everybody. Even Chris Evans' Steve Rogers, I think it's one of those things where it gives you an avenue where you can put all these characters to bed, but nothing is off the table. And I would never truly want them to fully come back and do everything again, but I would love

the idea of like when we get to Secret Wars, they get to come back and be a major part of it. And then we, you know, as just like a really combining the last two major. sagas, whatever, and then I don't think Marvel will ever die, but if you want to start wrapping things down a little bit after the multiversal saga is over. It's a money machine. It is, but we're

also talking about a lot of movies and a lot of time, and I'm very curious if they can continue to truly evolve when we're done with this saga. Yeah, I mean, look, but evolution as opposed to profitable businesses are two different things also, right? So like, even if there's some stuff that we also don't

feel like they're not moving the needle, but they're still making close to a billion dollars. Without China, now the Edchon is going to, I think we're going to start clearing a billion again. I think so too. I mean, look, let's see what happens with both, do we, and I don't know, I think we talked about this. No, maybe it was a different, I don't remember if it was a big thing if it was with you guys, but we'll do it again in case we didn't.

The three movies, Eternals, the, the Marvels, the, the, The Guardians and Ant Man, and Ant Man, box office-wise totals, one, two, and three, what are you got? I'll go first what you guys think. So that way, I'm going Guardians number one, Ant Man at number two, the Marvel's tapping out of three. That was mine. Yeah.

I'm going Guardians, Marvel's Ant Man. And I think Ant Man's going to be close. Because release dates because of how well the first Captain Marvel did, even though it's not one of my favorites of the Marvel Pantheon, it did exceedingly well. It made a 1.3 billion. Don't forget why, though, also.

Not just because. It was the one after, it was right after Infinity War. It was right before. It was between Infinity and In the Game, it was Marvel. Or it was Quantum Mania, or Ant Man and the Wasp was first, and then Captain Marvel. And then, it was right before Endgame. And then Endgame. It was very close timing. It was right there.

But it does also follow a show and follow the sequel. And Ant Man was. Fact. So it could. I think the closest two are going to be Amman and Marvel's, but I think Guardians has it. I think that this is, this movie, this Ant Man's got a lot of hype behind it. Tang's huge. It does.

It does, and you're really getting a full introduction to Kang now because that really felt like a prequel with... He Who Remains. But I just... Amman movies never... I think you're going to have to convince the everyday audience that Ant Man... Peyton Rita said they always give him the palate cleansers, and he wants this to be a ton of thing.

I think you're going to have to convince the audience with word of mouth that this is the case. I think we know Kang. It's a lot like our Ezra Miller conversation. How much is impacting the day-to-day civilian... that isn't in the industry. Well, look, I'll bring up, like, the show, the bear, right? So it's a great job.

Yeah, I did. But the thing is, like, you would assume because a lot of people talk about that, I can't tell you how many people, my friends that from back home that I brought up had no clue what that was. It's just got, he just won a whole bunch of awards. Still, nobody's watching those awards. We're very insular. Very much so.

So, and it's the same thing where, like, Ant Man, like, and it's a reason why we had this whole discussion around, like, the Mandalorian trailer that just dropped. And the reason why they've been, and even the Ant Man trailer that they show during football games. Yeah. And the big question is, why do you show it during a football game, right? It's not just to get us or people, you know, who are watching it, like to go watch it because the trailer's dropping. It's to get the people who are watching football to go, oh, that's coming out.

Because Guardians' summer movie, Captain Marvel sequel to one of the biggest Marvel releases. Ant Man, oh, a third Ant Man movie. Listen, traditionally, like, especially when, like, Mark Ellis and I were doing Shmo's No and all that stuff, I would have been on your page. 100% because summer movies is when it's when kids are out of school. There's just something about Ant Man that I feel is going, because it's also the first big release since Avatar. So, and it's the only thing that's going to kick Avatar off of its, yeah, oh, 100%.

It's perch at the moment. It's also, I mean, we've been hungry for Marvel content for longer than usual because of how much stuff was coming out in 2022. And this might be the longest. And this might be the longest gap. Do you know what I mean? Like, I think this is probably the longest game. in Marvel stuff since they went every month.

That's true. I know what you're saying. Yeah, right, because you don't have a show or anything. Think about how we were talking about January. Us, we're like, well, there's nothing to talk about. Like, it's about to be, so there might be that hunger for, you're right. Yeah, yeah. So it's right around the corner.

Anyway, so before we get to, well, I was going to close out one more story. Let's talk. It's boom time. So, Boom Studios, they are, they have been, they've been sponsoring the show. And I'm so glad they have, as I was telling you guys, and we've talked about it many times over, that boom is just. a brand new type of, I don't know, there's just something that they do that is so special

with the different kind of genres and the amazing comics that we've had an opportunity to read, to learn about. There's a lot of new stuff, but there's also stuff that they have that is in preexisting IP that you know, but the stories that they tell, and there's no difference this week, man.

Yeah, baby, Dune. June. I love Dune. And yes, it is on my most anticipated list, the second one. God, I've done the damn thing. But the actual comic itself, fans know that this is a huge year for Dune, man. It's big. The sequel comes out, and Boom Studios is kicking things off with a brand new Dune comic book series.

We talked about it briefly, I think, that it was coming out. But look, listen to this. It's Dune House Harkening, and it's the first one. It's out this week, and it's at your local comic shop, and it begins an epic 12-issue series set before the events of the original movie. The series is going to take fans on a journey exploring the origins of iconic characters like Gurney Hellick and Lady Jessica, and new insight into House Harkenden's schemes came together. It was written and adapted by award-winning novelist Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson with art from Michael Schelfer and it's available now.

I mean, just look at some of this stuff, man. Look at this. It's like I love this type of art. Yeah, it's really beautiful. And then that one's great, although this is my favorite one here. I love this. I love this guy. It just like it sums up everything.

Look at him. it looks like you can be a Game of Thrones character too this really gorgeous art Robert Barathean for real right and so and once again so it's it's coming out if you guys are big Dune fans I know a lot of people are breaking my chops about hey why isn't your

most anticipated list and so simply because this idiot here forgot it this should be on your list if you're looking forward to Dune you should be running out to the comic book store even if you're not I don't only read comic books anymore head on out there and this should be the one

you start with. That's what I was going to say is this is what a great gateway, right? Like, I love when comic books are accessible and if you're already a sci-fi fan, then you might be reading novels. If you're already a Dune fan, you might have seen the movies. What a great way to see if you like the medium of comic books. And then if you like this, Boom has so many other things that you dig in the sci-fi arena. And if you also like the horror-ish underbelly, there's a lot of good horror stuff. So I think this is a great way for you to get that five and see if you like the medium of comic books. And this one definitely, I love the seeds being planted. Like you could feel certain things in this first issue that were like,

like, oh, I know that reference. What are steps A, B, C, D to get to the E that I know? Yeah, and it's easy to follow along. Yeah. So Winston, you know, sci-fi has been something that we've been doing a lot with Boom. What do you think? I mean, I love it, but when we talked about this before, I was confused because I still haven't seen Dood. So, like, I just.

So I guess here's my question. Should I finish this first, finish this series and then go watch it or should I go watch it and then try and? Finish this first because it leads into the, event of the first movie. So it's like, it's any of those big movies, I remember like back in the day when they did Batman 89,

they had like kind of that lead up to it in the Batman of the comic itself. They did a cool sequel to that by the way. Did they really? Yeah, they did this last year. It was the, it was the if they had Billy D. Williams

story that was supposed to be told. So it's Batman 89 of five-issue series set after. Yeah, oh, that's cool. So it's a five-issue, yeah. You bring it in? Yeah. And same thing with Marlon as Marlon.

Marlon's his rod as his rod as well. Oh, wow. And they continued Superman too. So there's Batman and Superman. Bring those in. Bring those in. I definitely want to read those. I mean,

that's like, that's my thing. But anyway, so, yeah, Boom's got this, Boom has this series out and Dune is the way to,

and that's what I love about boom, though. It's like, there's all these different, like, new stuff that we hadn't heard about. And then there's the Power Rangers and the Teenage Mutiny Mutiny Ninja Turtles

and then there's Dune. So yeah, go and check it out, man. I did my top. I love lists. I love end of the year list. One of those favorite things about New Year's is breaking it down.

I tried to do a top 20 comics of the year. I couldn't. I did a top 60. And Boom, boom literally has 11 of my top 60, and they're a new publisher. Like, that's incredible,

considering they put out to scale the quality they do, and they have so many less individual comics than like Marvel or DC. They just, they're all great. It was the first, because I wasn't as familiar, right? It was where when we're coming on board,

I'm going, I don't read comics as much anymore, so I'm really hoping that it's like, it's good because I don't want to, because I was thinking myself, I'm like, yeah, I'm just going to tell them after like month one.

If I don't like their stuff and then we can't, as nice as it is, I just, I just can't do it. I haven't had that problem. Not once. And it's like, and what is really as a movie fan, I'm going, or TV fan too, I'm like, I'm going, hey, this stuff should be, you're going to start to see a lot of this stuff. That's what's great is like something is killing the children. Yeah. So something is killing the children was three of my 11 because not only is it the main title,

but there's also the House of Slaughter and the book of Slaughter. Right. Because there's such a rich mythology they introduced that they can do spinoffes like a good show. but they're as good as the original. So when I was looking at my list, I was like, this is one times three books, and it's not the characters we already know. So I get to have fresh IP,

you get to get new eyeballs on it. Like, I just, I'm so impressed consistently. I mean, they've been blown out of the water to the point where I think you're, I think you're spot on, Christian. I mean, obviously we know Reserker is coming. Yeah. I would not be surprised if, like, a circle ends up.

Yeah. It's like a show or a mini-series when it's all said and done, let alone the fact that they are currently they're doing a 30th anniversary special of Power Rangers right now. Yeah, right, right, yeah, saw that. I wouldn't even be surprised if you have a situation where somehow the Ninja Turtles, like Power Rangers crossover becomes like a thing.

Yeah, right, that's so sick. That'd be great. I'm going to plug one more book as I traditionally do. There's a book called Human Target that Mike Kalanowski is obsessed with. Mikey Christmas. It's an issue 10 this week out of 12, and it is probably my favorite. Insert yourself into the world of DC characters.

know through a character you don't, because you've got this eye line that's a guy you wouldn't normally know. So the character of Human Target is a guy who takes punishment as a disguise to take things off of other people. So he's literally a human target. So in this case, he dressed as Lex Luthor accidentally got poisoned and now he's only got 10 days

to live because the poison's killing him from the inside. So the comic takes place over the course of 10 days as he's slowly dying, trying to solve his own murder. And it's a really fun detective story of him dying, but the art by Greg Smallwood is some of the prettiest I've ever seen. The writing by Tom King is such a great, like noir, mystery. And then you've got like one of my favorite issues was, uh, issue nine was last month. And you've literally got the terror of this guy running from Batman. He's like, he's right behind me.

This is what he'd do. This is what he'd do. And he's doing all these things thinking how Batman would think. And you've got this terror of a character you don't see because you're just afraid of the Batman. So you actually get to see that thing that Batman wants in his books. You never get to see the other guy's perspective. And he's a hero. So you, you, you, I don't know, I just love a supporting character getting this kind of love and detail. And it shows the strength of the medium because he can run into Green Lantern one week, Batman one week, have all these, supporting characters and it never feels contrived. It just feels like an expansive world and that's what I want my comics to feel like.

Well, that's awesome. So check that. Check out Human Target and also check out June and check it out in the store. So once again, thank you to Boom and thank you to Coy for the suggestion. All right, before we wrap up, there's just two more things I want to talk about. So James Gunn is hinting that certain Guardians of the Galaxy's actors probably will be switching over to his DC universe. James Gunn is hard at work, relaunching DC Studios as its new CEO.

Many are wondering what the future holds for the Guardians' Actors. Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3 will not only be the conclusion of the trilogy, but Gunn's tenure at Marvel. With that, some are expecting some of the actors and his franchise will also be parting ways with Marvel. Now, we shouldn't expect all the characters to depart at the end of it, but it does seem like the roster will be much different

by the time we see them in another project. When asked what the future holds, Gunn hinted to Empire Magazine that Chris Pratt and potentially others could jump ship to D.C. The cast are like my family. I cannot tell you how close I am to Pratt and to Palm and to Dave Batista and Zoe Saldana and Karen. But I also know I will work again with all those people again, probably at my other job. Right.

This shouldn't be too much. And he didn't actually tweet at it. So jokes on me. It's an interview. This shouldn't be much of a shock for a fan of Gunn's work with actors Michael Rooker, Sean Gunn, already jumping to D.C. So yeah, Dave Batista, as I mentioned, wanting to portray D.C.'s Bain in a film. Only time will tell.

So this is about as no duh as it gets because of a lot of different reasons. The first is that James Gunn seems to be from... I worked with a guy named Elon Gale, who was a big reality producer now. He created F. Boy Island. Oh, dude, that's so... Oh, my God.

So, but he also, he was a big producer on The Bachelor, right? So, and I worked with him for many years. And he's buddies with James Gunn. And he shows up in Guardians too. He's in, he's in, he's one of the, what are the ravagers or in the back? I think he's with Stallone or something at the end. And he's just there. And I was like, and then he just, Gunn takes care of his buddies.

But he also, but he didn't, he didn't do it in a way that it's like this kind of nepotistic thing. It's, it was, he's in the back. He's his friend. And he shows up. But it's little things like that. Then you look at what he's done and how he has built out of Dave Patis. I said as much. He's built out Dave Patista's confidence.

He's built out Dave Patista's career. Dave Batista will 1,000% show up in a DC movie. Or at least the Warner Brothers movie again, or something that James Gunn is involved in, right? But, I mean, what creative doesn't do that? Of course. They want to work. I mean, in life, you want to work with the people that you like

and that you know you have chemistry with, but like, Ryan Coogler and Michael B. Jordan. Absolutely. Scorsese and Leo or DeNiro. Yeah, there's tons of it. Spilberg and Hanks. And this is, and this is, a collection of people that he's worked with that are all,

and Zoe Saldana is in stuff every other Tuesday, right? She's in, she was just in, she's in something big, an avatar, but then she's in something small like Amsterdam. And I didn't like that movie, but that movie had great actors. Andrew Reisborough Hoy just talked about, Christian Bale, Washington, like all the, so many people in that, in that particular movie, but he, but what James Gunn does is he is also going to look at the star power, right? Chris Pratt, of course, he's going to,

get Chris Pratt. It's like it's it's it you have to look at it now. We always say that it's not Yankees and red socks, right? But it is in a in a certain aspect where with the fans and everything too. And Marvel and DC, of course it is. But if you're James gone and you're not allowed to work at Marvel anymore, you're going to get Chris Pratt. You're going to take Pratt. You're going to take Batista. You can take all these guys. I know it's another essentially a kind of space futuristic character, but can you not see Chris Pratt as booster goal? I was going to. Yeah, that is exactly where I would hope you would land. Even like an older one, like they cast younger,

and they have a time traveling booster gold. That's Chris Brought would be genius. I don't know enough about it to whether or not. He's basically a reality TV show star that streams all of his superhero hijacks for money and brand deals. Sounds just like this. In the future, he steals his tech so he can go be famous in rich in the past. So it's like the selfish guy bringing tech back.

Yeah, I think it's, I mean, you, yeah, you'd run the risk of the Star Lord, you know. Comparison, sure. But to that point, I look at some of the people that have kind of done the Marvel DC crossover, and a lot of their stuff is kind of the same. I mean, even the actor that played like Yandu, his character, the spear, he was the javelin dude, wasn't he? Michael Rooker and, yeah, Rooker was both. Yeah, he was both. Yon do out here with the flying arrow.

Well, yeah. So, Gun's going to be taking, he's going to be taking a lot of these actors for sure. You know his brother's going to show up in all the Guardians movies. Will Pete Davidson. Oh, that's right, Davidson. Well, he was already in. He was already in. But I think, so I think that it's a 100% guarantee that a lot of them will show up, for sure.

The question and spins, does Feige do one of these things? Faggy, you know, Faggie's always going to say smartly on television or whatever he's interviewed. No, we always wish good luck for everybody too. You know there's a competition level for him as well, too, and he's going to go, get Cavill on the phone now. Why wouldn't you get Cabell? Captain Britain, man. Yeah, Doom. I want him as Doom.

I want to see him as Doom. I would love him as Doom. And I couldn't leave it. I put a poll in a lot. And you had said the same thing, but we didn't talk to you about it because there was a rumor about Adam Driver about playing Reed.

Yeah. And I said, I would prefer to see him as Reed. And then we put a poll out to the fans. What would you rather see him as? Reed Richards, Dr. Doom, and overwhelmingly Dr. Doom. I think people just see the parallel. Now, excuse me, overwhelmingly.

Yeah, yeah, Dr. Jim. And it's exactly right. They see the parallel. They just see, oh, he was a calendar. It's so tired. It's like we've seen him be a masked villain already. Insular versus Pup. Like, we see it from the perspective of, like, I think we personally want to see actors challenged.

I think we want to see, like, things that we want to see. But I think if you ask the average movie go, or they're going to go, like, oh, he's good a bad guy. And that's okay. That's exactly what happened. And he would kill it as that role. He would absolutely kill it. But that's what we were talking about with John Carlo. You know what I'm saying?

is the fact that he plays a villain exceptionally well, but that's why he wants to move into Professor X. Exactly, and I'd love to see that happen as well, too. So these are both tremendous actors that could do it and not just keep doing the same thing. I would do the only thing I would say, and I would not blame Adam Driver for maybe agreeing that he wants to play Dr. Doom,

it's not that Reed Richards isn't important. It's not that Reed Richards isn't like a big deal. I would make the argument that Doom is a bigger deal. He is, and I'm sure he's more layered in overall, but it's just like the idea that, this guy, he's a really good actor that could play it. But anyway, I think a lot of people just like to think like, oh, I'd like to see more of the villain,

or I'd like see more of, it's the linear. But can you imagine Adam Driver's Reed Richards squaring off against Henry Cavill's Doctor Doom? I mean, come on. Love that. Come on. I would also love to see if Reed Richards finally get the layers that I think he has in the comic books.

We've not really seen yet, man. I think Adam Driver could do that. That's why that's all kind of lays into it where it's like, Marvel should be making that phone call to get Henry Cavill involved one way or another. There was, oh, God, somebody sent me, well, somebody sent me something about having John David Washington be Reed Richards, and I was like, absolutely not.

But what I would love to see him do is I would love to see him be the Blue Marvel. Oh, he'd be incredible. Do you think, and they talked about, like, is Denzel too old to play him? Blue Marvel, I think. He's got white, white in the sides a little bit. He does, but I think Denzel, while this is all due respect, because that man is one of the greatest actors of all time. To Denzel?

It's not even that. It's just the fact that even though there's got the gray blue Marvel just based off his. He's not like old. And I'm not saying that Denzel looks old, but he definitely looks older. You know what I mean? You know what I want to see either John David Washington or Sterling K. Brown play? Mr. Terrific. He would crush.

Okay. Sterling K. Brown would crush Mr. Terrific. Mr. Terrific is Sterling K. Brown. But when you say John David Washington, I see them as similar types. And I could see that. Mr. Triv is D.C. Yeah.

And he's so like both, I think. Sterling K. Brown and John David Washington are these hyper articulate, oozing intelligence, very strong, capable dudes. And Mr. Terrific is basically like, he can outsmart Batman. And he's also like, you know, yoked. There's a lot of news coming down the pike for sure. And I think, and the other thing to discuss, not now, because we don't know what it is. If we get our way and there is like this full-on reboot, then the question is going to start

to come, who's playing The Flash? Who's playing Wonder Woman? So there's a lot that's going to be coming down with some more of these announcements. pretty soon. Last but not least, a little bit of longer show, I know, but I would be upset of myself. I didn't mention that Jeremy Minter is recovering, which is a good, which is a really good thing.

However, you know, it's going to be a long recovery, and the injuries that he sustained is, they were really serious. But I think he tweeted the other day that he's back home and that he's able to, he's able to actually get himself out of the hospital, you know, and it's great. He's been providing these updates on his recovery following his serious snowplow incident. New details from sources close to the actor

have described his condition now as much worse. Okay, that's not good. Jeremy Renner was finally able to leave the hospital and go home this week following his serious snowplow accident, but it sounds like the Marvel Star will have a long road of recovery ahead of him, potentially sidelining him for a few years. Renner, who plays Hawkeye in the MCU,

had to undergo emergency surgery after suffering life-threatening injuries when he was accidentally run over by his own snowplow on New Year's Day. Details about the actor's injuries have been vague with reports that he suffered blunt chest trauma and orthopedic injuries. Thankfully, the surgeries have been successful and Renner has been taken to social media to provide updates on the status. The updates have been uplifting, but new details have emerged that paint a much more bleak picture of the actress condition. Celebrity Gossip website Radar Online exclusively reports that friends of runners describe the actress condition as much worse, going into detail, the right side of his chest was crushed and his upper torso was collapsed.

He also had a bad head wound that was bleeding and a leg injury. He had a lot of pain and having difficulty breathing. Word is that the damage to his chest was so substantial it had to be reconstructed in surgery. So although Marvel was seemingly on its way to phasing out Renner's Hawkeye or at least reducing his role, he still played a mentor to Kate Bishop and figured to have at least some role in the future Marvel projects. A two-year recovery would sideline him until 2025, which puts his availability, for filming into question as Avengers the Kang Dynasty is set to release in May of 2025. All right, there's a lot to talk about here real quick before we wrap it up.

But yeah, I mean, look, I think that even though it was a major accident, so like it was even when they said he was home, I don't think everybody was like, okay, he's good now. It's like, no, he's going to take a while to recover. And so as far as filming, I mean, look, filming and doing all that, I really think that's the least that anybody should really be worried about or talking about right now. but you also don't know, even if it's one of these things, let's say it takes them a year and a half, two years to get better.

And they're like, well, you know, filming and the movie comes out, reshoots. You know, you do a quick scene with them, you put them in there. Also, the way they ended the show, they could easily have him be more of the old man, Hawkeye guy in the chair. Yeah, you know, and I would honestly, like, Render seems to love the character. So I'm not thinking of it from the fan perspective. I want him to do whatever he wants to do. And it's early enough, I think he can.

Like, it's early enough in that role, they can position. Like the way the show ended allows for him to come back in whatever capacity he wants to. And I think that, you know, after what, 15 years of the character, that's really unique as an actor to have that kind of responsibility and freedom. Yeah. Yeah. I think obviously what you want to do is you want to have dreams and aspirations for the future. But I think similar to like DeMar Hamlin with, you know, the Buffalo Bills and everything. The big thing right now is just like, just glad that they're alive and just getting better.

Get better when you can. You can go back to work when you can go back to work. It's five years from us, five years. All right, everybody. Feel better, Jeremy Renner. And we're hoping that the recovery is fast. And it is, it's long road ahead. I want to thank you guys for joining us, as always.

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Don't worry, you can wear it. You're not going to get in trouble. Yeah, you can. That was going so well for me. This is, that was for anybody that was like looking at it, like, ooh, like, I want to. But like, am I going to get in trouble about where that? No, no, no, no. You'll be fine, baby. If anything, you're in trouble if you don't wear it. That's right.

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