The Kristian Harloff Show - JASON MOMOA Officially cast as LOBO in the DCU!

Episode Date: December 30, 2024

On today's show John Rocha and Winston A. Marshall fill in for Kristian as they discuss the BREAKING news that Jason Momoa is officially playing Lobo in the DCU. They then ongoing reports that The Bat...man has been delayed again! Why? What is happening? Muschetti's Brave and The Bold also delayed? Gunn responds to the claims, do they make sense? Speaking of DCU, Superman test screenings have begun. What is the word? The Box Office Battle between Mufasa and Sonic continues. This and more on today's show! #superman #batman #thebatman #dc #dcu #boxoffice OUR SPONSORS:  ROCKET MONEY: Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and reach your financial goals faster with http://www.Rocket Money/THING  

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Starting point is 00:00:04 All right, I guess we're live. Hey, everyone, I'm sitting in for Christian Harloff today. What is really going on with the Batman, y'all? Yet another delay in this part of the Patinson Batman joining the DCU, or is there much more going on? Also, we're going to talk to breaking news that just broke a second ago that Jason Mamoa is officially going to be Lobo in Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow. that squeal he had walking out of WB clearly was for a reason.
Starting point is 00:00:38 And that was for what a lot of you guessed already was Lobo. We're also going to discuss everything going on with the Superman test screenings. And you know, I personally have connections to that and more on today's episode of the Christian Harlov show. Here we go. Hey, everyone, welcome to the Christian Harlov show. You know, I've tried to get myself in that edit, but Christian refuses. Apparently, I've got to do a number of shows and then I get to be put into that main show. edit. So, you know, hopefully Christian will rectify that a little bit. But hey, everyone, welcome
Starting point is 00:01:22 to the Christian Harlov Show. We are a couple of days away from the new year. Hope you all happen of fun, having a fun holiday season. And thanks for joining us today. But I am not riding into this, into this saloon solo. I am bringing a co-host with me today, one that I absolutely enjoy and love. He is the king of swag himself. He is the swaggy blurred. he is the co-host of my game time sports show, but also blazed in a trail for himself with Coy on Fridays with Cape and Cows, Caves and Cals, and also doing his own thing on his YouTube channel.
Starting point is 00:01:58 It is the great Winston A. Marshall, how are you, Winston-A? I'm already in the main edit. I know you are. You and Coy. I love it. Undone. Nice little long order.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Nice reference there. How are you, man? How was your weekend? How are things? Oh, man. I'm doing all right. I'm kind of in like a mixed place right now because when I went home for Christmas, I went back to Texas and my little nephew was there, he's about 10, 11 now.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Okay. And all I know is, is we were all sitting playing Uno and this little, this little so-and-so talking about, and I was like, oh, no. In my face, you're not even going to remotely cover your mouth. Yeah. And now I have something. Oh, no. I'm pissed because I have this big New Year's Eve party and I can't be sick, man.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I'm going. I'm a fight somebody. Well, that I'm good. I'm good, man. How are you? I'm good. My commanders made the playoffs. Liverpool won again, 5-0 against West Ham.
Starting point is 00:03:01 So this was a good weekend, got to hang out with the lady who had just come back from spending five days with her family. And so to me, it was a very good weekend. And a lot of stuff, though, is happening. You know, usually when you wrap up the year, there's, you know, kind of you're struggling. to find stories to talk about, but we are chock full of stuff to get into here on the Christian Harlov show. And just a reminder of the stream labs and the super chats, well, no, super chats rather, are open. Send in your super chats here. I'm just doing my show for God's sake.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Send in your super chats. We're going to read them as we go along. And don't ding the show for me hosting Winston A Marshall is here. So help out on that end. Oh, I thought you saying ding it for because of me. I was like, first of all, that's rude. I was going to say second of all, to quote, to quote Michael Kane, do not go quietly into that night. And then, you know, finally, man, you're welcome. Merry Christmas that, you know, when I let you have one bonus week. So there's. 41 to 7.
Starting point is 00:03:57 It was a tough for you all. I know I know. But we're here to talk about geek news and that's what we're going to start off with. So let's take a little. Let's jump into this story here. Jason Mamoa. Let's take a look at this one. This one is extremely shocking as we're about to start here. Jason Momoa is returning to the DC universe, but his reign as Aquaman has ended. Instead, Momoa has signed on to play anti-hero Lobo and Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow. I think a lot of us were suspecting that already. The superhero movie starring house of the dragon actor, Millie Alcock, as the eponymous. Oh, my God. Who you try to impress with that? Also known as Kara Zorrell is set to be the second film in James Gunn, and Peter Saffron's reboot of DC Universe following the highly anticipated Superman, which we're going to talk about a little bit later in the show here,
Starting point is 00:04:49 and the reactions that have happened. Craig Gilles Gilles-Ghaelts is directing this film, which also features Mattias Shonarts as a villain Crem of the Yellow Hill, and Eve Ridley as Ruthie Mary Noel, Anna Nogara there, of course, wrote the screenplay, based on the run of DC Comics by Tom King and Bilkus Ebelie. What else we got there? Luke, a little bit further down. Let's see what else, what information they got on, Mamoa in this way.
Starting point is 00:05:09 now, Momoa confirmed the casting news on Instagram by sharing a quote from an interview of Fandango during the press tour of Aquaman 2, where he discussed his longtime fandom of the character, an anti-hero known for his violent and irreverent personality. I'll just skip some of this stuff here. I collect comics. I mean, listen, if they call and ask me to blame, it's an F, yeah, I haven't received that call, so I don't want to put any fake news out there. But if they ever call me and asked me to play or ask me to audition, I am there.
Starting point is 00:05:34 So this is interesting. And production is set to start in the second week of January, January, 3rd, or the third week, depending on how you look at the calendar here. And it is coming out on June 26, 2026. But look, a lot of people suspected that this was going to happen Wednesday, that he was going to play Lobo. It had been kind of not that hidden of a secret. There was a video.
Starting point is 00:05:56 He recorded himself of himself walking out of Warner Brothers, screaming with the Yahoo saying dreams come true. And a lot of people were like, what does that mean? An Aquaman 3, no way. It's got to be Lobo. Well, now it's officially happening. So no matter what, he says, it seems like he knew ahead of time. So what's your reaction to Mamoa now transitioning from Aquaman into a new universe,
Starting point is 00:06:16 DC Universe's Lobo, and does it work? What do you think? And in Supergirl? What do you think? I mean, I've said that I think that this is, I don't know, many more spot-on castings. Like, this is up there with Robert Downey Jr. as, you know, Iron Man. This is like, people would argue at this point, like Tom Holland. as Peter Parker, like, just the, yeah, no, perfect casting.
Starting point is 00:06:42 So I don't think that there's any surprise. I also think that this feels reactionary. Oh, like, if I'm being real with you, I think that most studios, especially someone as brilliant as gun, has a few in the chamber, bro. Like, this is a, this is the ankle pistol that, you know, the detectives have where they're just like, Like, because in the last second type thing, and I think that all of this Batman stuff dusted up so quickly. Yeah. And seem to not go well.
Starting point is 00:07:18 They just kept one in the chamber just in case. Yeah. Because why? What purpose does it serve on December 30th? The year is over. You could literally just be quiet until we get into past new years. This dropped today because it was like we need to get them talking about something else. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:36 pull the ripcourt. This a thousand percent feels like breaking case of emergency because, again, he was screaming, Yahoo, how long ago and how long until this movie starts filming and all of that? This is a thousand percent an emergency pull, in my opinion. And it's not a bad, like I'm happy about this. Again, I think that Jason MMO is perfect for the casting. I'm just questioning why we got this today. And then when you look at what has transpired the last three to four,
Starting point is 00:08:04 instead of gun being able to just enjoy the last week of the year post Christmas. He's like, do it. Let him know. That's my opinion. Hey, James, welcome to running things. That's how it goes. There's not a moment for rest. There's not a holiday.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Don't be ridiculous. This is what it is to run the DC. You don't run any universe, to be honest with you. And so, yes, I think this is an excellent point you're making, Winston. In that Superman, there was a lot of, you know, obviously brought on by the hot mics, Jeff Snyder there making comments about what he had heard. I chimed in a little bit on our recent episode, but then convoc.com pushed back,
Starting point is 00:08:38 which we'll get to a little bit later on that, hey, we talked to a bunch of people who love the screening. Then the Batman stuff, getting delayed, a lot of rumors about that. So it was not a good last few days for James Gunn and the DC universe, regardless of what people feel about it. It wasn't, PR-wise. So this is an interesting point you bring up.
Starting point is 00:08:56 So how do we get people, and look, we were going to lead the show with that stuff. Even we adjusted our show so that we could talk about this. first we're still going to talk about the man assuming stuff but like this makes all the sense of the world to do it this way you know this you're so right Winston like other studios they know they have news in the chamber just in case and when stuff is looking bad they break it to distract you from other stuff that's going on uh in their lives and look uh assuming Gomez was getting criticized for her accent and amelia Perez with Spanish what happens she got engaged two days later So these are these things you understand.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Like people divert attention away from negativity when they're at a certain echelon of fame or a certain status in the business. They understand the PR, the importance of PR in certain moments. That being said, I think this is great. I love Jasonamoa. I think he's going to be excellent as Lobo. A lot of people have already done fan art for him as Lobo for months, maybe even a couple of years, wanting this to happen. And now that it's happening, I think it's another way to get a lot of goodwill. back for James Gunn's DC universe by having Lobo or Mamoa play Lobo in this way.
Starting point is 00:10:08 So it's a relatively new character. It was, it came out in 1983, but it quickly became a character that a lot of people enjoy. He's been, he's been absolutely crushing it. I would make the argument he's about as close as what you get to a Deadpool in DC as as far as it goes. Just the the absolute ridiculousness can survive anything. just mercenary, like essentially a cosmic mercenary. And strong, like, same level of won't die,
Starting point is 00:10:37 but the strength, like physical strength at times to match Superman. Like, it's ridiculous. Let me ask you this. Are you surprised that this news, like there are two weeks away from shooting? Are you surprised that this news was not broken by any of the scoopers, any of the people who have connections? This is one thing the DC was kind of able to sit on and break it at their leisure or when they need it to.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Are you surprised by this? I mean, the reason why I genuinely feel like this was a hold on to it type situation, they just kept it close to the chest, though it was not a super well-kept secret because this has been, again, rumored for over a year now. For sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. And including to the woo-hoo, the whole situation of him coming out of D.C. about it. I think it was one of those things by the nature of them not acknowledging it and waiting until two weeks of because who does, who announces casting for a major role
Starting point is 00:11:30 in a movie two weeks before it starts filming. Again, it doesn't, so to the point where they felt like it's a not well-kept secret, but it's not officially announced one way or the other, keep it close to the chest if we need it for whatever's going on. But otherwise, you would have said this a while ago, because that would have been big news to say not only that he had switched over to this other role, that he's going to be continuing throughout the unit, like, you know what I'm saying? It just, the timing just doesn't sit well on top of the fact.
Starting point is 00:12:00 that again, the last week of the year is the most throwaway week for all news unless something crazy happens. So like if it was a political thing, we would be going to war to announce anything like that. If it was movies, it's something like this. A studio feels like they're in trouble trying to bail out or something like that or a Kardashian, you know, another one committed vehicular manslaughter. So they're just like, oh, and Courtney's getting married again. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's just not, this is not the we to do that. So that's why I truly feel like this was,
Starting point is 00:12:34 let's take the spotlight off of what's going on here because Gunn tried to put the fire out. We're going to talk about it in a second with what's going on with the Batman movies and people didn't really buy it. Yeah, yeah, I know. And that's what it seems like too. But, you know, this is fascinating to me.
Starting point is 00:12:52 They're going to start shooting two weeks. How big of a role do you think Lobo is going to have? Because clearly he's not the main villain or antagonist, but do you think it's going to be like a bit of a cameo, like a couple of scenes just to officially introduce him into the DCU? Or do you think he's going to be near the end of the movie maybe coming in for whatever reason? And her next adventure will be maybe confronting Lobo. I have a feeling that Jason will probably be around.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I mean, it's hard to tell just because you really don't know if they're going to fully pull from a comic story, just use inspiration by if they're doing a whole. new adventure like what specifically they're doing yeah because then that end of itself will kind of determine whether or not lobo is around like we're going to see apparently milly uh like a little bit in superman yeah yeah but maybe there's something that gets opened up where jason shows up in a post credit like from the idea maybe there's some alien on the run or something like that or maybe maybe he's not the main villain but maybe something happens where you know because of something that happens with Superman or we just see Millie maybe in a post-crap.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Maybe she's on the run from Lobo. Who knows? We really don't know yet and it's kind of hard to speculate. But I guarantee that Lobo will be a big part of the universe. There's no way you put an A-Lister-like Mamoa and a character that people have been kind of like clamoring for for, you know, a little bit to see a live adaptation of that he just kind of appears for a cameo. Like I think Lobo is going to be a major part of the universe.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Yeah. I mean, he's in the history of the complex. He's been in Justice League. He's been in Legion. He's been in Young Justice. He's been in Suicide Squad. And speaking of Suicide Squad and Peacemaker, I mean, Jason Momoa appeared as Aquaman at the end of Season 1 of Peacemaker. James Gunn said Peacemaker is canon for the most part, but he's going to explain how Aquaman and Flash showed up there at the end.
Starting point is 00:14:44 So you've got to be real curious now that Mamoa is Lobo in this Gun, DC universe, how he's going to explain him being Aquaman in that with Peacemaker, if peacemaker is D. Canon now. So I'm be real curious to see how that plays out. All right. Well, that's our story there. Send in your super chest. Let us know what you thought about all this and what your feelings are about Mamoa. You know, what are we trying to break Winston? You and I together. Should we try to break 200? Is that possible? 200. I know. I know. My God. Let's let's get to let's get to what was what was it that you?
Starting point is 00:15:21 Yeah, we only have 16. We got to get to 100, buddy. We got to get to 100. to like let's call let's start with 50 let's say minimum right and then we can move from there a two hundred look man sir okay I was I was already like trying to just focus on my life today and I get the phone call you needed a number they pulled the emergency ripcourt for me
Starting point is 00:15:47 yeah I'm the lobo in this situation goddammit like give me yeah we needed you that's 100% for sure 100% for sure I'm just saying people flush with Christmas money. Come on, y'all. Literally the exact opposite. It's literally I just spent all my motherfucking money on Christmas. Excuse me, my language. I forgot who can't spare on here.
Starting point is 00:16:06 All my damn Christmas money buying these ungrateful kids presents and they cough openly in my mouth. Wow. Wow. All right, well, let's move on to the next story here. We'll see what's going on with Lobo in the future here. But let's deal with the films that are in the future as well. but delayed here.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And that's the Batman. The two major live action Batman films currently in the works at Warner Brothers have been delayed, right? Matt Reeves is the Batman Part 2, has been delayed this time, pushed back a full year from October of 2026 to October of 27. And this sequel was announced back in 2022. So we've been waiting five years just for production, or we're going to be having to wait five years until we see this.
Starting point is 00:16:51 At this point, we don't know if there might be more delays. who knows at this point. Reves is said to be working hard to perfect the script. It now is reportedly Charlie filming in the third quarter of 2025 and is also potentially dropping its current Part 2 title. That's interesting. What will be the new title if they do drop the Part 2 title? And James Gunn responded to the delay saying Matt is committed to making the best film he possibly can and no one can accurately guess exactly how long a script will take to write.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Really? We'll stop announcing release dates. Once there is a finish script, there is around two years of pre-production, shooting, and post-production on big films. That's not the only film, though. They got an update. Filmmaker Annie Mushieri appeared on the Spanish podcast, California Secretta, and said the Batman Brave of the Bold movie has been delayed as well. The film was never locked in for a day, but now it seems it will be further back than anticipated. He indicates that he may make another film before he goes to work on the DCU's new Batman, And I'm now writing a science fiction movie that I would like to do.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Batman is a project that's been postponed a bit. So there could be another film before it possibly that one. We've also got comments here on all of this from James Gunn here. If we move a little bit further down there, look at the – we've got the background on all of this. So let's keep going down a little further here and look at the comments here from James Gunn. We had say about all of this.
Starting point is 00:18:19 He said last year we got confirmation of Mershi had been enlisted to do Batman, Brave in the Bold. He said, we saw the Flash even before taking the reins at DC Studios and knew we were in the hands of not only a visionary director, but a massive DC fan. It's a magnificent film, funny, emotional, and thrilling is what Gunn and Peter Saffrin said about the Flash
Starting point is 00:18:37 at the time, and Andy's affinity passion for these characters in this world just resonates through every frame. Ironically, Mochieri having already directed a Batman and Michael Keaton in the Flash, so they said when it came time to find a director of Brave and the Bold, there was really only one choice. Luckily, Andy said yes, Barbara Seid on a produced with us
Starting point is 00:18:52 that we were on our way. Now, let's take a look at the comments from James Gunn, who talked about the delay for the Batman Part 2 and what he had to say about the five-year thing. He said, to be fair, a five-year gap or more is fairly common in sequel, seven years between Alien and Aliens, 14 years between Incredibles,
Starting point is 00:19:11 seven years between the first two Terminators, 13 years between avatars, 36 years between top guns. That's stretching it. And, of course, six years between Guardians of the Galaxy, volume two and volume three, left out. It's because his tweets came up and they fired him off the film and then brought him
Starting point is 00:19:26 back later on. That's a barred of why it was delayed. But to wrap this all up, because Winston, me and Jeff and people on other shows, I'm sure you guys are Capes and Cals, were considering whether Robert Pattinson, with this meant that Robert Pattinson would be the Batman. Well, now we have news that came here from
Starting point is 00:19:42 comic book movie.com. The Batman, there were reportedly no plans to make Robert Pattinson, the DC used Dark Knight, despite a 2027 delay. here. They said, despite DC Studios, co-head James Gunn talking to social media, to state that the delay was simply down the fact the script hasn't finished, speculation mounted some recent rumors relating to the gun wanting to bring star Robert Pattinson in the DCU's dark night might be the real reason. On last week's episode of the Hot Mike, right, Jeff Snyder shared some of the things. He heard about Batman's situation. He believes that Gun does indeed want Pattinson in the DCU, but Reeves is the resistance to the idea.
Starting point is 00:20:19 whether there's any truth to this or not Daniel Rickman, Daniel R.PK there on Twitter or X has heard that for now, there are still, quote, no plans to make Patinson the DC use Batman. So that's a lot of stuff, man. That's a lot of stuff. I know I went on and on, but I wanted to give a full rundown of what's going on with these Batman. So Wednesday, Marshall, you are the co-host of Capes and Cowles. We certainly talk about nerdy geeky stuff all the time and superhero stuff. So I value your opinion on this.
Starting point is 00:20:43 What are your thoughts on all that? And do you believe Daniel R.P.C.C.R.C.C. report that Pattinson is not in the works to become the DCU's Batman. Well, did James gone? Yeah, I mean, I saw an interesting theory on there. I mean, the first thing that we should address is just as Gunn's excuse of, look at all these other things that had these, these, see. That was lame.
Starting point is 00:21:07 What that feels like, to be honest with you. Do you remember those times when you were younger, Roca, and like you would have an adult, you'd have like an uncle and aunt, your parents, they would say something to you, you, but you're like, do you think I'm a toddler? I can do math and I know, I know things. Like, this isn't, you know what I'm saying? And so I feel, again, it's the Lobo announcement today. But I feel like that was his way of trying to smooth that over and people going, bro.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Yeah. Top Gunn didn't have a sequel because there was no plan to have a sequel until everybody got this nostalgia trip. So then 36 years later, Tom was like, yeah, I really, let's do it. Let's see what we can come up with. and what's interesting story we could tell. Same thing. There was no plan for aliens.
Starting point is 00:21:50 There's no plan for Terminator. Avatar. That one's fine because James Cameron wanted to go explore the deep blue sea before Ocean Gate went out there and acting real stupid. And he was developing more technology. So it was none of that made logical sense. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:04 I think that the theory that someone said, and this would be very sad if that's a case, but there might be something personal going on. And that's what's slowing down this script getting finished. And so if they're just not ready to do it, there's not ready to do it. And the one thing Gunn said, even though this was pertaining to the DCU, but I'm sure he means that about all things that are now under this DC Studios umbrella, until the script is good and we feel good about it and we get a script lock, we're not moving forward. I think that this is a situation where Matt is just not quite done yet, which is a little crazy just from the standpoint of, you know, like you've had time. bro like this movie came out in what 2021 2020 yeah it came out in 22 so it's only been two years okay
Starting point is 00:22:54 yeah but either way you would already had a plan and you would sign a three movie deal so you you had a basic understanding of what you wanted to do already yeah so it feels like you like whatever's going on one way or the other maybe there were major shifts once gun came in i i don't know but it just it feels like something else is going on here um i still we talked about talked about this on capes. I still don't want patents and personally as the DCU Batman because I keep my peanut butter and chocolate separate. I don't
Starting point is 00:23:24 like recess. Otherwise, you know, I, if he does, he's a good actor, it's fine. I just think the tones are just very different. Yeah. Well, what do you think about the delays, though? What do you think what do you think, Muscietti? See, I've been saying through sources
Starting point is 00:23:41 I have that Muscietti had been moved off this film and that they're finding the right moment to announce it, but Jeff said on a hot mic that according to him during our show someone texted him from his connections at DC saying that Mushetti's still going to direct this film we've got a clay face movie that is supposedly being worked on we just saw Clayface essentially being introduced in DC Canada with creature commandos so is what are your thoughts on all of this do do we do are we still going to get the DCU Batman through Brave and the Bowl I think this is exactly why you don't announce as
Starting point is 00:24:12 much stuff as you do like this seems like a a this has been a continuing mistake on the part of these studios running superhero content of announcing, you know, all of the projects going forward or even giving them dates unless you're genuinely getting to the point where you're going to get ready to go. Yeah. You can announce these are the projects we're looking to make if you really want to, but zero dates. And this will be this year.
Starting point is 00:24:42 And this is like that that is the problem with having the shareholders, you know, let them be the one's dictating how this goes because obviously gun understands and i think all like most of them understand all of this stuff takes so many moving pieces yeah like to make those announcements you're setting yourself up for failure and so i just think it's one of those things where mooseyetti will probably still direct it there's no reason to lie about that unless though the funny thing is is if something does go sideways it's going to look like you were lying later if you do have to pull him i think he's probably still doing it and i think that they just need to to slow everything down. So, so focus on getting Superman out. Focus on getting superwoman,
Starting point is 00:25:27 Supergirl. Is it super? They're doing Supergirl? Supergirl. That's what I thought. Okay. So it gets Supergirl. I wasn't sure if they changed the title. It's Supergirl. Woman of tomorrow. That's, there it is. Yeah. Focus on getting Supergirl off the ground. No pun intended. You know what I'm saying? And then just and you obviously had to talk to people. You've made it very clear that you're answering these questions and addressing them. But just keep it pushing that way. And just stop announcing stuff until you're like, Supergirl has started filming. Supergirl is wrapped.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Right. Script locked on Batman, Brave and the Bull. They start filming in three months. Like, you know what I'm saying? Just leave it and stuff like that from now on. And let's not tease anything else because you don't want to shoot yourself in the foot before you even start for race. Also, James Gunn, stay off social media.
Starting point is 00:26:13 I don't know how many more examples. There's no. this is a law of diminishing returns. Yes, you're successful in one way that you're debunking, quote unquote, debunking some of these things. But later on, you know, when you say one thing and then you misstep or you make that years comment, which I, you know, I tweeted about like, don't give me that.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I was like, there's a two-year gap between the Godfathers. There's a two-year gap between the Spider-Mans. There's a three-year gap between the Star Trek, the Star Wars, the Captain America, the Indiana Jones, the Rocky movies, the Creed movies. Even Matt Reeves' movie's Planet of the Apes movies only had a three-year gap. Batman, you know, there's so there's so many examples to discount what he said. It was such a tweet that, like you said, that talked down to us that bothers me about James a little bit.
Starting point is 00:26:54 He's got a little bit of that kind of like, don't mess with me. I know what I'm doing. And the thing is you're in charge, buddy. You can't have that attitude because it causes people to want to come after you. So we'll see down the road. So I think you're right. Slow down. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Let's see how Superman is and then go from there. Speaking of which we're going to talk about Superman in a little bit. But first, we got to hear from Christian Harlow. Oh, wait. First, let us know what you think about all of it as you send in your super chats, send in your love, sending everything that you got. What are your comments on all this? What are your thoughts on the Batman stuff? What do you thoughts on the lobo stuff? Send in your super chats. We're at 23 right now. We want to get to fitting, maybe get to honey by the time we're done. But before we do that, we got Christian Harlaw here to talk about Rocket Money.
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Starting point is 00:29:17 A lot of you guys are really focused on getting your finances in order and getting on top of your money a little bit more. Rocket Money is going to help you do that. So go ahead and sign up, use the code. Give some love to the show by using the code there on Rocket Money. Shout out to them. By the way, I want to bring up one comment here real quick just to help a person out here. I can't even bring up. Will you bring up this Mr. B comment, Luke, if you can?
Starting point is 00:29:39 He said Reeves joined Planet of the Apes franchise in 2011, a deliberate his movie. in 2024. Some guys, sometimes guys, I wonder why you chime in. First of all, Matt Reeves' movie came out in 2014. Dan, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. Then his movie came out in 2017. He was not the director of the first film. Know your directors, know their movies, know their time gaps. If you're going to chime in knowledgeably about this stuff like you know it. I just wanted to make that clear. All right, let's move on. Let's move on to the Superman story here, Winston. We've got to get some thoughts on this as if this James Gunn thing isn't over yet. So the buzz here for Superman is an interesting conversation that happened over the last few
Starting point is 00:30:21 days. The first trailer for Superman received widespread praise for sure. I certainly loved the trailer. I did a great trailer reaction for it, great in terms of how much I loved it. But on the hot mic, of course, recently over the last couple of weeks, Snyder and I shared what we've heard about recent test screenings. and it's not great. For context, you may recall that on December 6th,
Starting point is 00:30:45 the Hollywood reporter even chimed in on this test screening, and this is what they said in their article. We've heard from multiple sources about one screening in particular on the lot, and with his close-knit crew of people, he trusts. We're keeping the buzz about the movie itself in our own fortress of solitude. Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck. But we can tell you that the movie will be doing a few days of additional shooting in Los Angeles in the near term.
Starting point is 00:31:08 but Snyder claimed on our hot mic show that quote he knew multiple people who had seen Superman the buzz is not good i'm hearing bad things i'm hearing you should be worried things it sounds like james gunn is aware of some of the feedback now james gun did say that some of those the shoots here were not are our pickup shots no scenes no reshoots however another source in the editing the world told the reporter that there are quote plenty of reasons to be nervous and of course i chimed in with what i had on from my source who told me that someone who'd seen Superman told me it was the tone of the first Captain American movie in the mummy films. They said Nicholas Holt is the standout, and the film is decent, but a large chunk of the film was unfinished with only a third of the film's VFX being done. It has the least amount of humor of any gun film, but there is still humor throughout. Most people will be satisfied with the movie, and it should be received well enough to continue Guns DCU. So just when you're thinking, this is the feeling about the screening, comicbook movie.com chined in with people who have had positive things to say about the recent Superman screening.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Let's look at this. Let's see. Roco, let's move past that to the bottom half here. We said, right, we've now heard from a well-placed source who has spoken to people who have seen the movie, Superman, and their feedback was a lot more positive. Apparently, Superman was described as Guardians of the Galaxy level good. And while some of the VX was unfinished, VFX was unfinished, quote, a lot of the shots were polished enough with seven months to go before release.
Starting point is 00:32:36 those in attendance that share their opinions reportedly, quote, love the movie. Keep in mind, these are people who are very close to James Gunn. So how honest are they really being? It's a good question to ask. It's worth keeping in mind, though, that both of these things can be true. It's highly unlikely that everyone who saw Superman at the screening felt exactly the same way about it. It's also important to note that plenty of much-love films receive negative responses from early screenings and vice versa. At the end of the day, we won't know what to expect until we're sitting in the theater next July.
Starting point is 00:33:04 And then there, let's leave it at that. Winston A, what are your thoughts when you hear these sources saying that, A, on one side, that there were some issues and people should be nervous. And on the other side, a lot of people really enjoyed the movie and it was Guardians of the Galaxy level good. So what's your feeling? Did you just have a full Mitch McConnell, like, reboot freeze? Like what?
Starting point is 00:33:31 Sorry about that. Go ahead. No, it's all good. I'm just, I'm so, I don't trust screenings, honestly. Like, there's, there is, there is. We go to screenings. How can you say you don't trust screens? We go to screen.
Starting point is 00:33:47 No, no, no, no, but those are different. Those are screenings where that's finished product. I got you. I don't trust these mid-screen because that, the point of these is to find problems. The literal point of early screenings is to find problems in the same way that like, it's a good point. I literally hit up Christian. and forth before we end up being like, a yo, I got this joke, man.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Like, what do you think about this? And then he'll be like, I love the concept. I don't love this particular moment, maybe reward this. That's the point. That is, that is what this is meant to do is it's meant to find issues. Yeah. So, so this idea of, ooh, the screening was bad. Oh, like, okay.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Like, I don't, I don't care because we are still in the process. This isn't, our movie is, complete here I'm serving it to you that was trash that was cool my first draft of my paper is done what do you think yeah go back and and fix this paragraph that paragraph doesn't work nobody gets anything right of the first time if that was the like it happens but it does not happen all the time right right some to be rare examples that people get it right the very first time so anybody making a big hubbabaloo about it no offense to to you a signer because I know the hot mic is about breaking them school. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's all it is, but it's,
Starting point is 00:35:10 but it's not one, in my opinion. Oh, got you. All right. Well, it's not, yeah, we're not trying to take down the DC universe. Yeah, and I think some people have mixed the two, like, well, if you say something negative or you've heard something negative, then you are trying to destroy this thing. It's like, no, that's not how it works. You know, Jeff is a journalist. Whatever your feelings are about Jeff, and yes, I am the first one to call out Jeff when he gets foolish on social media. I'm talking about the Roy. Not you, Winston. Of course. Whatever his feelings are.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Like when he's a fool on social media, I call him out. Sometimes I call him out on the show. So you guys know I monitor him in that way. But he is a journalist. He takes lunches and dinners with executives from studios, with assistants to very important people, with agents, with actors. He is not just sitting around concocting stuff out of thin air.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Okay? He actually legitimately has worked in that town for decades, has sources, well-played sources. He reaches out to young people who are up and coming. because he knows how to work the sources, makes connections with them, helps them out. If you're starting a new blog or podcast or website that tackles the industry, Jeff has helped many young people get involved in talking about the industry. So I think sometimes people go after him because, yes, he can be quite stupid on Twitter sometimes
Starting point is 00:36:23 of some of his stuff. I don't disagree with you. But his journalism degree is, I think, untouchable. It doesn't mean he's always right, but he's just reporting stuff, right? So, yeah. Let me just clarify in case Jeff. with seeing this, I'm not coming for you at all. I know you're not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not,
Starting point is 00:36:40 that's not what this is. I'm just saying as far as any reports of a screening of a movie was bad. Yeah. I mean, like an example of this, Roka, I knew somebody who was working for whatever production company studio or whatnot, where they saw the pilot and like the first few episodes of Abbott and they said the pilot is fantastic, but the show is going to fail. The rest of it just does not find
Starting point is 00:37:06 its legs. That person could not have been more wrong. And that's my point is that maybe at the time when they saw it, there were things they needed to tweak about that one way or the other. But at the end of the day, that's what I'm saying is like until you actually see what it's turned in as the final product. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, God, to take it to sports for 30 seconds, what did Jerry Jones's dumbass say all offseason? We're all in. This is he it. We're fine. This is the Super Bowl team. And then what happened? Two games in, we got to know exactly who the Cowboys were. So until you see what the final product is of something,
Starting point is 00:37:42 I just don't think. And again, I will trust a critic screening. You can still take it with a grain of salt because you don't always agree with critics. But I would take a critic screening because that is what is going out in a week, two weeks, versus we are seven months out. I would expect, I would actually hope that someone going to a screening like this would be like, I liked it for these things. I got issues here, here and here.
Starting point is 00:38:08 You know what I'm saying? Because then I know that they're actually being honest with you and they care to try and make it a better movie. Right. And that's what you want. That's what you want your friends to do to be like, look, put aside our friendship. Look at it as a person who is in this business, who works in a particular field. Tell me what's working. What is it working?
Starting point is 00:38:24 Give me specific notes and blah, blah, blah. So I imagine that is where this screening was coming from. Okay, we're seven months away. This is the finished product right now. What do we need to do? The Hollywood history is littered. with press screenings changing endings, changing storylines,
Starting point is 00:38:41 adding storylines, adding scenes to save movies. It's all through it. You know, you see that. Dailys do that as well. So there are situations here where you can correct a film and whatever. And all Jeff was doing was reporting,
Starting point is 00:38:53 right? And people have concocted this rivalry or anger towards James Gunn from both of us, which is badness. I have never seen James Gunn direct a bad movie. I've liked all of James Gunn's movies. I'm liking creature of commandos, creature commanders rather.
Starting point is 00:39:08 So this idea that there's a grudge because we're reporting this stuff that's happening, I just don't understand that kind of logic, to be honest with you. So yeah, you're probably right. This is a screening that he did to get information to get knowledge. What can I do better?
Starting point is 00:39:23 What can I fix? Because I think the last thing you're to do is screen something seven months before it's released and just let it sit there. That's not really the way you do movies. So you're absolutely right. I'm sure this was a screening to find out what the issues
Starting point is 00:39:35 were fixed them. So there clearly might be issues with the movie, which is what was being reported, but those issues, and Jeff said this on the show, like Star Wars, those issues, there's still seven months to fix it, and he has full faith that James Gunn will. So I think that's what you see at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:39:51 So yes, I think we're right to report this stuff. I think the fans have to do a better job of looking at it with a bit of a more of a nuanced eye and less of a, oh, they're trying to take down James Gun type of approach. So, but I, I'm not going to put that all on the fans. That's the society we live in.
Starting point is 00:40:09 That's not just about movies and TV shows. That's across the board. You see one little snippet of anything because people just want to tease something that's coming. And it's automatically World War III of this is the greatest thing that ever happened. This is the worst thing that ever happened. That's just like where we live now, sadly. 100%. So I think the main thing we have to do knowing that that is what society has now cultivated.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Yeah. is to just steal your own heart on that whole situation and take everything with a grain of salt. So you're like, okay, that's information to know. Yeah. And try to figure out how to how to suss that. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. But I mean, I think this is different than any other situation he's been in, right?
Starting point is 00:40:49 Because in the past, he's directed movies. He hasn't been running a studio at the same time that he's directing a movie. And he hasn't directed a movie while running a studio that's going to be the foundational piece of his universe, right? That's massive. So I think there's a lot of other outside factors that are getting involved here. And so I'm going to be curious to see what the end result is going to be. And we have seven months to go until we see it. But if they push it, Winston, then at that point, you might start to have questions.
Starting point is 00:41:18 That's the only thing. If you get pushed off the date, I think that's the only major piece of news. Yeah. Apart from something way more drastic than that. But if you push off of your release date, that says a little something. It could mean not as much, but considering you have actively decided to kind of headbut against Fantastic Ford. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why that would be such a big deal.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Yeah. And I take Anthony Cheeseman's point saying Kevin Feigy didn't run a studio until he ran a studio. That's true. But Kevin Feige didn't come in already with the expectations of running an entire universe. It was, let's see how Hulk does. Let's see how Iron Man does. We may have plans for more. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:42:02 He wasn't announcing. He wasn't announcing like, we've got 10 shows coming in animated shows and all. Like, it's a different situation. You know, it's taken over a team that's already been built as opposed to coaching your first year of the NFL's existence. There's a difference. Well, it's what the hard part is, well, first of all, before I, before I peep back off of that. Yeah. You lived in D.C. for a while, right?
Starting point is 00:42:27 26 years. Did you also live in Baltimore? Because that was the most. I just love the wire. Arr, I know you see that. You know, that's why I get my Baltimore action. Police. Police.
Starting point is 00:42:45 But yeah, I think the, like you said, it reminds me of LeBron. People know I love to pull my sports. LeBron going to Miami. How many titles? Not two, not three, not four, not five. Like if you start claiming your victories, and I think that that was the thing. You did bring Gunn and Safran in to start this universe
Starting point is 00:43:05 and do it the right way since it did not work with the DCEU. So there's already going to be expectations. So like when Tom Brady goes to the bucks, there's going to be expectations. You're the goat. Like what are you going to do? And he actually pulled out a championship his first year. So who knows?
Starting point is 00:43:20 Like Superman could be the same type of thing, but there's just high expectations. That's why this is happening. Let alone there's a lot of people that deeply love these characters. the argument could be made that like DC honestly was the stronger of the two once these movies started popping off just because of Batman and things and not that Spider-Man isn't a Beazel and not the X-Men aren't a big deal right but if you look at the MCU it was kind of started with quote-unquote arguably B-listers in people's minds not that not as far as
Starting point is 00:43:50 captain America the Hulk Iron Man in the lure of Marvel but as far as the hierarchy of popularity DC has a tendency to be and like people lean into that. They watched the Justice League cartoon growing up or they watched, you know, you know, Reeves Superman back in the day. That's where their heart lies. So people really wanted to be done right. And when you also throw in the fact that there are people that still Cape for, no pun intended, for the DCU and what Snyder was building and stuff like that, you're all, it's always going to be a little bit of a cluster fuck until you kind of get it settled. And so, again, I think it'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:44:30 We don't have hard anything to say, no, this is bad. Like, we're out. So until then, it doesn't mean we don't talk about it. It doesn't mean we don't speculate. And what could this possibly mean? That's literally the point of this so that people in the comments can debate it and we can talk about it. But I am not going to stress myself out on December 30th, 2004. There has already been enough BS this year.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Just let me get to New Year's and move on, man. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. All right, let's move on to some other news. And we're at almost 30 comments here. So send in your comments, ladies gentlemen, sending in your super chats. We've got so much stuff to go into.
Starting point is 00:45:09 All right, so let's move on to the box office. The post-Christmas box office has continued to be a neck-and-neck race between Sonic the Hitchhog and Disney's Mufasa, the Lion King, with both likely to score some sort of victory. The third Sonic film won Friday with $12.6 million to Mufasa's $12.1 million, with the blue blur set to likely win the three-day weekend with 38 million down, just 38% from its debut ever, oh, sorry, over Mufasa with 37 million, which is who, the film has bounced back up a very impressive 4% from its soft debut.
Starting point is 00:45:43 However, the lion is said to be king of the five-day Wednesday through Sunday weekend, with the hall expected to be at about 63.7 million compared to Sonic's 59.9 million. As of end of Sunday, Sonic will be at 137.6 million domestically, while Mufasa will be at 111.4 million. And in third was Robert Eggers' Nosferatu, which was a massive surprise for a lot of people with the title said to earn 21.1 million for the three-day weekend and around $40 million for the five-day weekend.
Starting point is 00:46:14 It's the fourth best opening for a focus feature's title and Eggers' best opening to date. The fourth coming in fourth is still wicked, still hanging in there, wicked with $19.4 million for the three-day and $31.7 million for the five-day weekend. The film surpassed Mamma Mia, globally this weekend become the number one stage musical adaptation at the global box office with 634.4 million and Moana rounded out the top five with an 18.3 million for the three day and 28.3
Starting point is 00:46:41 million for the five day. They're at like almost 800 or just over 800 million in Moana World Watch, which is pretty impressive. Sixth place goes to a complete unknown, really good biopic in my opinion, about Bob Dylan scoring the best opening for searchlights since the pandemic with 11.6 million for the three day and 23 million for the five day and then seventh was baby girl and then the fire inside which is i think the brian tyree henry movie so um what are your thoughts on this box office here mufasa bouncing back you thought he was dead you thought he threw him off the cliff no mufasa came bouncing back against sonic three what are your thoughts on the box office overall brother as you can see i am not dead i did not yield that's really what that is and and to be honest with
Starting point is 00:47:26 you. I guess I'm part of, I don't know if we're going to call it a problem or what. Like, what did you think of Bufasa? I'm curious. A Bufasa was not that good. It was watchable, but I thought the animation was interesting, but I just didn't find it to be that, that good of a movie. And I haven't seen Sonic 3, so don't ask me about that one. You haven't seen Sonic 3? I haven't seen Sonic 2, so I got to watch Sonic 2. And then I haven't seen Sonic 2. I don't know if you know this, but there have been holidays going on and demands on my time. Sonic 2 has been out for over a year. Well, Sonic 2, fair.
Starting point is 00:47:59 I should have probably gotten around. I spent on streaming, my guy. I had enough time to think Sonic was dead because Knuckles came out. And that was trash. I thought, Luke is shaking his head of me right now with his arms folded. I'm sure he is. But, no, I, Sonic 3 is fantastic. I think I personally, I have, huh?
Starting point is 00:48:21 I think it probably goes. one, three, two, and that's not a knock on two. I just think that they did something really special with the first one. I had act one problems with Sonic three. I won't obviously get into it because it's not a review of the movie. But once we got on the adventure, movies fantastic. Mufasa, my thing was I didn't necessarily love the new songs, which heard it. There are definitely things about it that I liked.
Starting point is 00:48:52 But, you know, so I'm a little surprised. at this, but I'm also not. Like, I went with my family on Christmas. Like, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's the whole thing is you got to kind of get the, the bookend around on it because it came out on the 20th. Right. So now that it's actually Christmas day, what are people going to see? And if you already took the kids to go see Sonic, you're not necessarily going to take them to go see it again.
Starting point is 00:49:13 You would be like, oh, there's another family movie. Let's go see Mufasa. See what happens. You know what I'm saying? So you're not taking the kids and those are rot to. I'm going to take it that much. So like, you're taking them the baby girl. you're not going to do that and you know and if if you're like any other parent you're like
Starting point is 00:49:29 i've seen enough wicked we've gone three times like not not not me i've been the one time which is a great movie but i don't need to see it again i'll wait for part two so why not go check something else out and and so i it makes logical sense to me i don't think moofasa was so bad that had no shot in hell i think that some of the actual themes and characters development throughout it was good, but there's just enough issues with the songs. I still don't love their live animal animation. It's better than the Lion King, but it's still kind of weird. So I am not surprised.
Starting point is 00:50:09 The first one with the bad animation, making a billion, I'm not surprised that it'd have some sort of comeback because it's a Disney movie and you'd go take the kids in the family. But what would you think? Well, Mufa is at 327 million worldwide, and it came out, what, 10 days ago. And Sonic is at 211 worldwide, and that came out around the same time. So it seems like Mufasa is having a stronger footprint internationally than Sonic, and that may carry the day overall.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Because a lot of people thought Sonic came out the gate, and no pun intended, really quickly over Mufasa that it would win. But right now Mufasa has been catching up, And so it could win the battle between him and themselves and Sonic. But it doesn't necessarily mean it will cross a billion. So I think this is going to be interesting. I mean, there's not much coming out in January that's going to challenge it. So maybe people will come to see and give it legs for Mufasa and get it across a billion.
Starting point is 00:51:09 I just would be surprised if that happened. It's not going to cross a billion. I don't see that. I don't know. I think it maybe caps out at around 600 at most because it's at 300 something. At most it's hitting six. I'm going to guess probably 475. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:24 I think we're, I think we have fully slowed down because once we turn the year, I'm not, I don't see people like, let me go rush to see Mufasa. Like that's right. And Wiccans at 634 million worldwide, which I think is amazing. So wait, Wickets at 634. Yeah, Mufasa ain't even coming close to touching six. I take it back, bro. Then then Mufasa is capping out at 475.
Starting point is 00:51:49 A Mawanna too is almost at 900 million. They're 18 million away from 900 million worldwide. That is amazing. Considering that film is okay and not great. Certainly, I enjoyed it. It was watchable, but it's not great. So pretty amazing stuff. So we will see.
Starting point is 00:52:02 I just got a text from my insider. Oh. You know, it's not as much of a scoop, but I've been letting, I was supposed to say that Sonic apparently has not hit a lot of international markets yet. So it's primarily still domestic right now. Okay. So we'll say.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Never know what happened with Sonic. It's a good. All right, let's move on to the next story here, man. And keep the stream, keep the super chats coming. Y'all, we're at 32. We'd love to get to 50, maybe even 100 by the end of the show. So send them in, sending you questions, thoughts, and comments. We know Christian isn't here, but I think Winston and I can do some Christian imitations if you want, answering your questions if you need it.
Starting point is 00:52:39 So, you know, we can do that. But yeah, what's the next story here? All right. So this is an interesting story, I think. Winston, both of us cover television, talk about television here. But there's a trend, apparently, that over the next thing. the past year appears to be coming to an end. Multiple returning series seeing their episode orders shrink,
Starting point is 00:52:57 particularly shows coming back for second seasons. According to deadline, the reasoning has been chalked up to several factors. Most notably last year's strikes impacting production schedules. For some, it's the tighter budgets, streaming services, having resulted in a choice to cut episode count rather than skimp on production value. For others, it has been a creative choice to do so. Either way, it seems this recent trend may be coming to an end. House of the Dragon was one of the earliest of the recent surge and shorter episodes.
Starting point is 00:53:21 episode orders. The series drop from 10 to episodes to eight episodes for the second season for both creative and economic reasons. And the upcoming second run of The Last of Us will shrink from 9 to 7 episodes, which I'm super upset about. But that is due to its hitting a, quote, natural breakpoint in the story, according the show run in Craig Mason, who tells the outlet the show's third season is designed to, quote, be significantly larger.
Starting point is 00:53:44 But other series have been impacted by this as well. Netflix saw multiple series like the diplomat and the recruit both dropped from eight to six episodes in their sophomore runs, but those largely thought to be due to the strikes, while beef sees its count drop from 10 to 8. Diplomat series creator Deborah Kane, Deborah Con, rather, already indicated a few months ago the plan is very much to go back to eight episodes for the third season, which has been in production for a while. Squid Game fell from 10 to seven episodes, though that was due to a creative choice, resulting
Starting point is 00:54:11 in the creation of a third season, which has already been shot and will be released in summer slash fall of 2025. And the upcoming live action one piece, which I know Christian has done some more. great reactions here on the channel for One Piece. The second season will see its episode count dropped from one episode from 8 to 7, but that is said due to be storytelling
Starting point is 00:54:30 as well. Not all, though, of the sophomore seasons have been victims to this transseverence. Seasons count go up from 9 to 10 for the second season and other series are matching their first season counts, including Andor Silo Wednesday, Peacemaker, The Night Agent, and Gen V. The episode counts for the second season of shows like Pokerface,
Starting point is 00:54:49 which just wrapped, according to Natasha. the own monarch legacy monsters and hijack are unknown at this time so what do you thoughts on this um this is a good sign feels like the industries may be bouncing back more episode orders certainly coming through for these future seasons what do you thoughts here i think two things have to stop i think a the shorter season count and i think b you got to stop this idea of waiting years Oh, yeah. That is, in my opinion, unacceptable. I, in a world where Stranger Things has been wrapped, yeah, it is in my Rushmore of TV shows.
Starting point is 00:55:28 But just by the nature of how much it's been spaced out, it does, it is, it has not been able to keep an emotional wedge to have that count. You know what I'm saying? Like it just doesn't, it's almost like this, this scenario of you, you kind of need what it feels like roka have you ever been in an on again off again relationship for years uh not years but certainly for a year and a half i had a pretty insane uh relationship that was off and on uh for that time yes i had a college girlfriend who we got together junior year i left for japan so we broke up i got back from japan and then we got back together then we broke up once I graduated
Starting point is 00:56:13 and then we got back together it was just on and again off again for five years right and by the time it was said and done it was so jumbled and over a period of time it was like you know and and it'd be good or bad and so it's kind of the weird thing here with like say a stranger things is the best example because they are the most
Starting point is 00:56:32 egregious with it yeah you throw in the fact that this is supposed to be about kids yeah Millie is married now true with like I'm not not going to believably think, oh, yeah, you know, she's 16. No, like, I know she has not aged a lot. She has a youthful face, but that woman is in her 20s now. Like, it just doesn't hit the same. And so I just say all that to say that stranger things may be the worst of it,
Starting point is 00:56:59 but TV shows in general, it's offensive for me to have to try and remember every little nuance thing that's happening in it, things like that. You're also messing up the story. is why so many people are so mad at George R. Martin as avid readers and what has been going on of not getting the end of this Game of Thrones universe that he's been writing forever. Yeah. You can't have it go on that long. So that needs to fix. And I agree that this episode count thing also needs to fix. Like, you had a system that honestly wasn't broken.
Starting point is 00:57:33 People were like, cool. I expect 13 episodes out of this show. Like, give me another 13. If you really, from a creative standpoint, you're like, I don't. don't it's going to ruin it if we try and stretch it out like that you're going to get filler episode fine yeah that is the rare exception that you should do that but yeah look at all the network team we've been loving for years where it was like yeah 26 you're going to 22 to 26 whatever it is be there like clockwork and those shows are doing just fine it depending on which ones you're talking
Starting point is 00:58:02 about i really hope that we can get back to that because i think that we had something special that it just isn't around anymore yeah i mean we just had to ride through the strikes i think And yeah, I think with the Squid Game part too, I don't think they had any idea to do a second season. And so they kind of had to because they backed up the money truck. And so let me go seven episodes. That way I don't tax myself too much or tell a story that stretches or have too many filler episodes. He just wants to tell a short succinct story.
Starting point is 00:58:27 So that makes sense. But you're always stuck in that middle place because creatives want to be creative and they want to take time to create the shows that they're, especially things. You're not going to compare stranger things to like, you know, criminal minds. Those are two different things. So you can do a 20. six episode criminal minds.
Starting point is 00:58:42 And then, but the 10 episode or 12 episode or eight episodes, strange of things, it's going to have way more resonance overall with the pop culture than criminal minds. So you have more artistic approach to it. So you get caught in that middle. And so you got to figure out what it is. But I think the strikes being out of the way, I think people focusing now on getting production going, getting people working, getting more of these things through.
Starting point is 00:59:02 I think that's going to in the end help these other seasons come out with bigger orders. So it's a good thing. So, all right, let's move on to the next thing. what do we got here for a story? I think we're talking about, yeah, the great Olivia Hussie, sadly has passed away at the age of 73. For those of us of a certain age, and I'm looking at y'all. You all know what age I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Olivia Hussie was maybe our sexual awakening in English class watching Franco Zeparelli's Romeo and Juliet. She was Juliet in that film. But she went on, of course, to do a number of notable roles certainly in Black Christmas in 1974. She played the mother of Norman Bates and the telemovie. Psycho for the beginning and Audra in the It miniseries that a lot of people love from the 90s with Tim Curry and John Ritter. Another notable turn was plainly and compassionate Rosalie Otterbourne, the daughter of Angela Lansbury's Salomey Outerborn, rather, in 1970s, Christy adaptation, death on the Nile.
Starting point is 00:59:56 She also voiced Talia Al-Goole in the Superman animated series and Batman Beyond, along with letting her voice to multiple Star Wars video games. She played a key role in the 1973 remake of Lost Horizon. And for me, growing up in the 1970s and 80s, her playing Mother Mary in Jesus Nazareth, one of the greatest mini-series ever. She was incredible of that. And then the last days of Pompeii and the post-apocalyptic foreign thrills like Japan's virus in Australia's Turkey shoot.
Starting point is 01:00:22 And her final appearance was in 2015 in a film called Social Suicide. She was famously agoraphobic. I know this for sure. She was first diagnosed with breast cancer in 2008 and subsequently went through periods of the cancer's remission and return. She was married also three times and leaves him behind three adult children.
Starting point is 01:00:39 So Winston, anything? thoughts on Libya, Hussi, any thoughts on her experience with her thoughts on her passing? I mean, the biggest one, I guess is her Talia Agul for me, just hearing, just hearing you rattle all that off.
Starting point is 01:00:50 I've seen pretty much about 50% of the stuff that you were naming, but that was one that I was like, oh, I didn't even realize that was her voice. Yeah, very, like you said,
Starting point is 01:01:01 as far as awakening, I mean, she was very sultry. I was calling, you know, Bruce, my beloved and all that. So,
Starting point is 01:01:06 yeah. But, you know, it's just we lost a lot of, man, we lose a recipe. man, we lost a lot of people this year. We were just talking about that on our blurts in the year thing yesterday,
Starting point is 01:01:15 just how many people were gone, which I don't know if you're still talking to Jay, man. He was so disrespectful. And I was like, yeah, man, and we lost Tito Jackson. He's like, Tito Jackson. I ain't nobody care about no Tito. I say, yo, put some respect on Tito name, bro. Come on. Tito is playing the guitar.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Yeah. Yeah. RIPita, Olivia, man. That's rough. Yeah, I want to throw in a personal one. RIP to Linda Labin. She passed away this morning. For those of us, again, of a certain age, Linda Lavin,
Starting point is 01:01:39 that show Alice, that sitcom Alice, that was our jam. You want to see great sitcoms from the 80s and the 70s. Alice was awesome. Linda Levin was an incredibly fantastic performer. I mean, worked all the way up until 2024. She was in an episode of the new season of Ellsbeth. And so certainly working for a long time, but sadly passing away this morning.
Starting point is 01:01:58 And just an icon from that time, female-led sitcoms, which were all over the 70s and 80s. So just incredible actress and performer. And you're right. We're losing a lot of people here on the tail end of 2020. man, we lost Jimmy Carter. He was like, I don't need to see 25. 20, 25.
Starting point is 01:02:15 100 years old, someone put up a really great meme where they said, Jimmy Carter lived through the premiere of all the Nosferatu films. And they went all the way back to 1929 for the original one. I was like, oh, my favorite Jimmy Carter tweet was, man, Jimmy Carter lived to see the rise and fall of Hitler. And more importantly, the rise and fall of Haktua. Notable. Notable. All right. There we go.
Starting point is 01:02:43 I think we had, Christians pushing me to get to the questions. Maybe we should get to the questions. But don't we have any other stories that I might want to touch on? Oh, yeah. Real quick, we should do the Acolyte one. Will you bring that up, Luke? We should definitely talk about Manager Sintel here. Of course, talk about the Akely, but it was also revealed that the series was set up for at least one more season,
Starting point is 01:03:02 especially with its ending, which was a mini cliffhanger that saw Mani Jusintos was Chimier and Amanda Lestenberg's OSHA going off to explore her powers with Darth Plague's waiting in the wings earlier this month. Jacinto teased at Fan Expo San Francisco that further season would have explored the Chimier Plague's connection and more about his character. Now a new quote from that appearance has gone up at Collider this week with which confirms that showman or Leslie Headland had a vision for the series. They went beyond a second season.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Jacinto says, I remember Leslie's dream was for us to do three seasons, not just this one. But there's something about having a finite ending to things that makes it so much more special. So yeah, I don't know if I do it or not, but, you know, three seasons and a movie would have been incredible. And I know we had so much more to explore with that second season. And of course, this follows season one being canceled, even though the shows, because of the show's high production cost here being a factor, over $230 million for eight episodes, was a little too high considering the audience it was able to get by the end. So Winston, quickly, your thoughts, three seasons was the plan and a movie manager, Jacinto talking about there being more with Chimer and Placus and all of that.
Starting point is 01:04:05 anything surprised you here and anything worth of note to talk about it? No, and that's something's a limited series. Most, most people when they pitch a show, they put a show Bible together, and that includes having plans on what's coming in the future. So no, I'm not surprised by that at all.
Starting point is 01:04:22 You just didn't do very well. I haven't seen it still to this day. Wow. Because I just didn't want to, the minute the discourse became a thing, I was like, no, I'm good. I don't need, I have enough stress in my life. life. I don't need the people that are slamming it and the people that are loving it who
Starting point is 01:04:39 both are ready to cut each other's throats. Like, I'm like, I don't need that. So y'all have fun. Y'all do all that. I'm going to stay inside. That's kind of where I'm at this point in life. I'm just like, is that what we're doing? I'm just going to go ahead and stay inside. Y'all have a good day. I don't need all this. You like that, you like that, uh, you like that baby gift walking in, into the room and going, oh, no, and then walking. Not even that's not even an, oh, no. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's it's, it's that black uncle that's, And just turn around and walk away. Hell no.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Like, I don't, I don't need that. I really do. That's fair. Yeah, that's fair. Well, I mean, I feel bad for Manning. But, I mean, Manny came out of this thing looking great. So I think Manny's got a calling card from that series. Even though it was canceled after one season,
Starting point is 01:05:22 Mani came out of the thing, one of the actors people are talking about out of that series. And no surprise that Leslie Headland, who is a fantastic showrunner, intelligent woman, a very creative woman. She had plans for three seasons, of course. You know, we're talking about second season taking years because creatives need.
Starting point is 01:05:37 time. We're talking about Matt Reeves needing all this time to write a script. Leslie had a plan for three seasons. She came in equipped. She came in ready. And unfortunately, we're not going to see it because maybe she could have improved in the second season, the third season. Wasn't given that time. But I hope to see more from Leslie down the road as a showrunner in that way. And we'll definitely see more from Managed Jacinto. And of course, we've got Star Wars on deck. All right, let's move on to the questions here. I think we should get some of these super chat questions going right. We don't got to throw to rocket money, right, Luke? So just put up a new, put up a new super.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Let's start us off, man. We got 36 right now. We'll see if we get to 50 or 100 by the time it's over. Steve S says, hi, Roka. What's up, Steve? I miss you a Nost on the top 10. Oh, that's very nice. Any plans to do another podcast with Matt?
Starting point is 01:06:24 Do you keep in touch? Love your banter and disagreements at times. Listen, the thing about Matt and I was that we never hung out outside of the podcast. We were never friends outside of the podcast. We didn't go to movies. We didn't go to bars. We didn't go to dinner. we just were really good at doing that show together when we were together.
Starting point is 01:06:44 And it was so much fun, one of the most unusual experiences of my lifetime. And it's not because Matt and I had issues with each other, didn't like each other. It just didn't work out that way. And we felt that the chemistry was so much more fresher after a while when we were coming in to record the shows because we hadn't hung out with each other. We hadn't done all these things with each other. And so it allowed us to be fresher. And after a while, we started guessing what the other
Starting point is 01:07:08 person's list might look like and finagling our list to make sure our movies remained in the final list. So it was a fun, fun show to do. I do miss doing the show with Matt. But yeah, we don't hang out of communicating. But whenever we do text, Matt recently texted me after a year of us not talking, we just fall back into the rhythm. It's just one of those friendships that that occurred that way in a professional friendship as well. But I think some point down the road, it'll be fun to have Matt and maybe do a end of the decade top 10 show or do a live show or something that could be a lot of fun. How long did top 10 go? Uh, six or seven years, I think. I think that's what one with. Look, sometimes, you know, you, you, you have, I wouldn't call it like a great love
Starting point is 01:07:52 that isn't like your soulmate. You know what I'm saying? Like that, that sounded like that was a great love that, that had just ran its course and you got a lot of good out of it and it doesn't mean that you guys don't still care about each other or the magic you're able to make together, but that's it. It just ran its course. Yeah, and look, I pitched a podcast by the end for us to do, and he was like, I don't, I don't want to just talk about daily stuff or nerdy stuff. I like top 10 for what it was. And he's got his music composer show that he does, which I think is a lot of fun. So, yeah, I mean, we both kind of moved on and done our own things, but I'll always love the top 10 and I'll always love what we accomplished top 10 and big.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Shout out to Christian Harloff and Mark Ellis, who put us together. I mean, like, we have, we owe Christian Harloff and Mark for putting us together, maybe not as much as they think we owe them. but we certainly owe them for putting us together. All right, let's move on to the next question. What do we got here, Luke? Hank Pim, says spent two hours last night watching old Schmo's reviews of bad movies, absolutely hilarious stuff. What are some of y'all's worst of 2024?
Starting point is 01:08:50 I was just compiling my list because I have to do my video. Let me take a look here. What are your thoughts on the overall idea of worse? Because we see a lot of pearl clutching at the end of every year, the last few years. People go, stop doing worse lists. It's terrible for the industry. It's hard to make a movie. What are your thoughts on?
Starting point is 01:09:07 Yeah, okay. There's, it's hard to make and raise a child and there's a bunch of bad people in the world. What are we talking about? Get the fuck out of here with that. No, let's see,
Starting point is 01:09:19 some of the worst. Pro, the American Society for Magical Negroes. That's a shock. Joe Gifolly Adieu, Venom the Last Dance, the 6th, AAA Craven the Hunter,
Starting point is 01:09:29 Madame Webb. Those are like all, all of those movies. Yeah. In theory, sound like they could have been good and they just did not come together in my opinion. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:42 So like, for example, the 6th triple 8, I actually have to give Tyler Perry a baby bitter credit here and that it's one of the best-looking movies he's done. But I stand by the fact that I just don't like the way he writes dialogue. It's like it feels like it's written for like a middle school. Like the dialogue at times. And Carrie Washington is crushing it with her. But I just took me out of it.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Like, and it is what it is. There's a lot of moving pieces that need to happen in order for something to positively work. And those were a number of films that it just did not. But what about you, man? Yeah, I would have to say the crow. I agree with that. Madam Webb was pretty terrible.
Starting point is 01:10:24 I would have to say Craven. I thought Craven was absolutely not good at all. The Rebel Moon movies, I like, I thought the first one was okay. Because I reserved judgment until the second one came out. and the second one came out, it was not that good. And I was like, all right, so the first one was not good. Now, by connection, I thought Argyle was horrible. Argyle was maybe the worst experience with the most expectation I had this year.
Starting point is 01:10:50 I thought Venom wasn't good either, Joker, Fully Adieu, I agree with you on that one. And I think there's one I saw that was an artistic film that everyone was crony about. I can't remember it right now that I came out of thinking about. I don't get what everyone's talking about. So it wasn't my jam at all. But yeah, I mean, there have been some bad films, but there have been some really damn good films this year. So for some other than good movies.
Starting point is 01:11:11 There were very good movies. There were a bunch of mid movies. And there were some bad movies. And there's nothing wrong with having bad ones. I'm so tired of people clutching pearls about this stuff. Because do this. Never criticize anything in your life ever than anyone's ever created a made. Then you can say, don't make any more worst films lists.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Then you would say. Here would be my bigger thing. Yeah. I have a problem with people that continuously make bad movies and keep getting checks to make more. That bothers me. I don't care if people have a bad showing because, again, people always like, why do you always bring sports up? Because they're actually very good as a way, as a metaphor for life. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 01:11:56 If a quarterback is on your team and has a bad season, you know, that was a bad season. The quarterback is on your team and has four bad seasons. It's time to move on. You ran your organization into the ground. They've had plenty of chances to figure it out. So that's it. I'm not saying you go right off, say, you know, the director of Madame Webb. It was, it was bad.
Starting point is 01:12:20 I finally saw it last night and I was like, oh, my God. Yeah. So I'm not saying you immediately throw the baby out with the bathwater, but I'm a little skeptical now. You know what I'm saying? Like now I need to every, if I see your name pop up, I go, hmm. and I got to hold my breath for half a second. But yeah, people, people honestly, sometimes the things you do don't hit, and that's okay.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Like, I thought Monkey Man was a fantastic movie. I had a little bit of a beef with how much just right here, close-ups for all the action. So I couldn't truly enjoy a lot of the choreography, for example. You know what I'm saying? That would be my one critique of DeV Patel on that. It's just I would like you to pull out just a little bit more so I can see more of the awesome choreography you made.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Yeah, that's what she said. I agree with you on that end as well. And I know, and I know who you're referencing. You know, you're referencing Eli Roth. How does it keep getting work when he makes such terrible. That's actually not who I was thinking about, but that's like, that's a good. That's a good. I'll give you, hey, man, I'll give you a cookie.
Starting point is 01:13:22 You get two more guesses to guess who I specifically was talking about. Borderlands. Borderlands was horrible. Eli should stop directing. All right. What's the next question we got here? Luke says, Hank Pim. Oh, came in with his.
Starting point is 01:13:33 a follow-up says his top five worst are five borderlands for taro oh i didn't see taro three venom two rebel moon two and number one argal yes you agree with me argov was so bad and angered me i've lost faith in matt vaughan yeah i lost me in matt vaughn it was that bad i think so i mean the last few kingsman movies have not been that great and that film was terrible so maybe matt should take a break from directing for a bit let other people direct and produce i i agree with you uh hank pym i Argyle just, you wasted Bryce Dallas Howard, Sam Rockwell, and Henry Cavill in that movie. And even Duelippa wasn't that great in that movie. And John Cena was okay, but it was such a frustrating film overall.
Starting point is 01:14:13 All right, let's move on. What's the next one here? We got, Luke. EWalk says, a season two squid game is so good. I heard Fincher was doing a U.S. version. Yeah, Jeff broke that on the Hot Mike months ago. Do you think it'll be a remake or a continuation of the same story set on U.S. soil with appearances from some of the Korean cast? No, I don't think any of the Korean cast is going to show up.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Maybe Li Zhong-Jay, maybe, but I would be surprised if they show up. I have a slight problem with this. This is the same conversation that happened when they announced that with Parasite. I'm like, yeah, everything needs to have an American or a whatever version of it. Like, the squid game as itself is fantastic. Right. So then it kind of feels like a weird cash grab slash like white, white, washing of it and and and and and I just I and I don't mean that like any sort of like political way.
Starting point is 01:15:05 I literally mean that in just like the idea of throwing its own paint a coat on it just you can print more cat like it doesn't and sometimes it works fabulously. A lot of people argue that the U.S. office is better than the UK office. Yeah. But but you don't need to do that every time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is this is already a pretty near perfect TV show for. its first two seasons. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:32 We'll see. And Jeff thinks that Brad Pitt might be the lead of that. So we'll see. All right. What's the next one? We got here, Luke. Carlton, Rodder, what's up? Carlton, London, calling. He says literally today is in London for a, oh, I'm in London for a West End show. Nice. John, London misses you. I miss London. 20-25 trip with the lady outlaw. Very possible. Happy New Year to you both. Thank you. Yes, we're going to a wedding in France, in Provence, in June or July and we're trying to see if we can squeeze in three or four
Starting point is 01:16:03 days in London. So we will see but Carlton thank you very much and happy new year to you. I think you guys get the new year before we do so happy new year. All right, well we got here Luke. Welcome for the win. I don't know what that's for, but maybe correcting. Because you're hosting. Yeah, if you want to call what I'm doing hosting,
Starting point is 01:16:19 I'm stumbling around here. Ewk says if God has... Stumbled better than anybody. I know you're like a drunken master. Ewalk says It's so true. If Gunn as head of the D.C. wants Pattinson as Batman, then what's the issue? Is it that he wants to respect what Reeves wants? But clearly those sources, according to Daniel R.P.K. saying he doesn't, that they don't want Pattinson as the Batman.
Starting point is 01:16:50 But I would imagine if they are having those conversations and you'd be foolish not to that Reeves and him are having a conversation about how to make his Batman still working. in the Reeves universe and work in the Gunn universe without sacrificing what Reeves has created in the in his universe and by the way James Gunn deserves credit for talking this out because James Gunn would absolutely if it was another creator they'd be like Matt you work for me I'm the head so I'm gonna do this there's nothing you can do about it but the fact that he may want to work with the reason on this I think speaks volumes about the character of James Gunn it's a good thing yeah no I'm there with you I thought about something real quick about about American squid if they're going to make
Starting point is 01:17:28 like a spoo. If we're going like scary movie, if the next scary movie reboot is just squid game, but like we're essentially like black folk and like, uh, in affairs, I would rock that so hard, bro. That would be hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Uh, all right. Bring it up,
Starting point is 01:17:46 Luke, bring it up what we got next here. We're going to go fast with these. Corn Emperor spill the tequila. That's right. That's our show. When we get to do it on the outlawed nation show, Winston and I have a lot of fun talking about, uh, things that are much more irreverent than we talked about today. Let's move the next thing. What do you got? What do you got?
Starting point is 01:18:00 Julius Wic says, John, your commanders ruin my falcons season. The Falcons ruin their falcons season. But Falcons losing big games is nothing new. Grats on making the playoffs. Jane Daniels is the real deal. And I actually believe in Pinnix.
Starting point is 01:18:13 It's a second game. Like Jay did not come out of the gate the first two games. But once he hit like games, because he got a concussion game two, I remember. Once he had like game three or four, roll it. And we'll probably win rookie of the year,
Starting point is 01:18:27 which is between him and both. Nick's. Yeah, which is incredible. I thought Knicks and Pennix were two of the best NFL ready made quarterbacks to come out. So their success doesn't surprise me a damn bit. Pennix is only going to get better next year. No way.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Oh, you're talking to Pennix. Oh, okay. Yeah, no way Kirk Cousin starts next year. And Bo Nix is absolutely going to be leading Denver, hopefully in the playoffs that they beat that Chiefs team. And they should, since they're sitting all their starters. I hope not, man, because I want the Bengals to make it. And I also want, in my opinion, if Joe Burr,
Starting point is 01:18:58 pulls this off. He is the MVP. I'm sorry. I don't care what Lamar did. I don't care what Josh did. Literally, he has the best stats in the entire league, and he wielded his team. That's the most Michael Jordan, LeBron James ass. We go into the playoffs, damn it. Come on. I would put our talent versus Bengals talent, and the Bengals talent is way better than our talent. Jaden Daniels should be the MVP. Not even remotely close. We'd have three victories without Jaden Daniels. You actually have a defense. I'm saying that despite the Bengals literally averaging like 35, we need to focus on what we're talking about this. Yeah, I know. Stop being time.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Get out of here. Right. Sending support to beat Christian this week. Thank you very much to be Christian this week. Oh, that's hilarious. All right, keep going. Keep going. Get these rapid fire.
Starting point is 01:19:45 John Lee says, do either of you guys watch Squid Game season two? I had low expectations and thought it was pretty good. Looking forward to season three in 2025. Yeah. I haven't seen yet. So, Winston, have you, how many episodes are in your name? Have you seen it or no? Oh, yeah, I finish.
Starting point is 01:19:56 It's fantastic. I'm so mad about that damn cliffhanger because I know, fortunately it sounds like they're releasing summer or fall of next year, so it's not a crazy wait, but I'm just like, oh my God, why? Yeah, yeah, fair point. All right, so we want, what's the next one here? Angel of Doom, 66, says, I saw Craven, then I asked myself,
Starting point is 01:20:16 why. With not an emoji, I agreed. I think a lot of us asked ourselves why after that movie. All right, what else we got here? Luke, Renetta W. Thank you, Renetta, for the kind donation. What's up, fellas? Been a while since I've seen you together.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Well, clearly you're not on the Outlaw Nation Channel. The Beyonce Bowl was fire. How does she always manage to outdo her last performances? The All-White, the HBCU band. Her intention in that performance was clear and honest. Yeah, Winston, a lot. Some people pushed back on her because she went all-white, referencing the Diddy thing.
Starting point is 01:20:47 That is not what that was about. I am so mad that people so clearly, clearly, none of you actually listen to Cowboy Carter and the exact outfit she was wearing on the I swear to God, do you see Head of State, Chris Rock and Bernie Black? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I swear to God, if I hear anybody say to my face,
Starting point is 01:21:12 yeah. Obias, say, well, why do you do you do you represent? I will open hands slap them the way Bernie did when he got off that train talking about, hey, do you want to talk about the motherfuckers? I don't hear of. Don't nato. I never heard of them.
Starting point is 01:21:25 I ain't never to hold on a NATO. They don't owe you money. They don't owe me money. No. Let's move on here, Luke. Also, Luke, let you take, put Zor on the Barbarian in a timeout here.
Starting point is 01:21:36 Kalyn Jays says, I love Pattinson, but I think Alan Richson should be the Batman of the DCU. He gives Bat, Black Vives. Kailen, he's, I don't think so, because I don't think he's that strong of an actor to play Batman. I think he could play Batman in the outfit,
Starting point is 01:21:51 but I don't think he's a Bruce Wayne. And as much as I love Richard. I don't think he's a person. agree. You do? Okay. Yeah. Am I going to sit here and be like he's the greatest actor of all time? No. Not, no, no, no. But I think he does. He's shown enough for me and Reacher that he can give the more kind of like serious end of it. And I've seen him in it, I've like, in his early stuff. He did a lot of comedy stuff. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to go with the, the like every time we saw, oh my God, Christian Bale like trying to throw the scent off where he was drunk with the models in the fountain and stuff. Alan can play that douchebag because he started off on a show called Blue Mountain State where he was just this idiot. It was great.
Starting point is 01:22:31 So I'm here for it. Well, maybe he's a better Batman and Brave and the Bold because that's a more of a campier approach. I could see that. But even if you're now, like a lot of the arguments that Batman has with Damien is like, oh, Jesus, I just have a child and you're trying to murder everybody.
Starting point is 01:22:49 I can totally see him cussing out Damien constantly. I agree. 100%. All right. What's our next one here? Matt Sandister McCall. Hey, man. Top 10 of 24 so far. Heretic. We live in time. Transformers 1. Dun 2. Oddity. Terrorfire 3.
Starting point is 01:23:07 A D.N. Deadpool and Wolverine. Anora and substance and kill. The Indian film killed. Nice. Good good list there. I like a lot of those films that you listed there. Good, good list of films. All right. Let's move on. What do we got? DG said many slept on live action Lobo. in the Krypton show. I just never watched Krypton show. That's many people slept on Krypton show. That's the problem with having too many
Starting point is 01:23:32 fringe networks at times because it was on sci-fi, wasn't it? And sci-fi, like, I haven't had cable a long time. It was on sci-w. It was on sci-fi. You're right. It was on sci-fi. Yeah, yeah. So it's tough to find for some people. They're not going to go that far out. That's why the expanse is an anomaly for sci-fi. The expanse
Starting point is 01:23:48 was a massive hit, but it was on sci-fi. People hunted that show down. All right, let's keep going. What we got here? Renetta back again. Thank you, Renetta. Also, Kendrick needs to bring it at the Super Bowl. I hope he gets an HBCU band. And for you people who don't know what HBCU
Starting point is 01:24:04 mean, it is historically black college, university band, and guest, I hope he does freedom with Beyonce and use another artist. Anyway, he needs to add some Louisiana flavor. Yeah, man, I mean, look, I am still hoping, I'd all hope that, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:19 Kendrick goes and does his thing, but he, you know, reaches out and gets, gets Wayne to come out and do that. I personally don't think that Wayne still has the sauce to do an entire Super Bowl show himself. Right, right. But I think you could bring him out and have him do any of any of his bangers. I think that that, I think that that would work. They do that with Missy. Right. That with, I think Katie was host on the show that year and Missy Ellie came out and did a couple of songs. Well, I mean, it happens every year where you have the special guest, but like you went usher last year. He brought it Alicia Keys, which that key, though, that that. He brought out ludicrous. He brought out a lot of people. He brought a little John. He brought a lot of people from Atlanta because that was kind of a tribute to Atlanta in Las Vegas.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Yeah, I agree. Little Wayne Live is no longer good. He used to be very, very good. But I think you tell him it's the Super Bowl, he can figure it out for a verse of a song. You know what I'm saying? I think that he would be fine. Kendrick is going to bring out, Drake.
Starting point is 01:25:18 I know it. All right. What's the next one? No, he's not. So he can sing a minor about himself. Yeah, yep. Legend, sometimes you have to lean into it when you lose. Legend MMM 600 says,
Starting point is 01:25:28 hell yeah, 200, happy New Year's Eve, to you all. Absolutely. Thank you, Legend. Happy New Year's to you. What else we got here, Luke? Corn Emperor says, I really like Mr. Batman and love the penguin, but they need to focus on the new DC. Oh, Matt, Roo's Batman.
Starting point is 01:25:41 I thought that's Mr. Batman, too. I really like, Mr. Batman. The Redmond is out again. Mr. Batman will hear. That's essentially what, like, when you said that at first I was like, yeah, I really like Mr. Matt Reese's Batman. I love the big one, but they need to put them to these new. Unfortunately, they should drop.
Starting point is 01:26:03 You think they should drop the Matt Reeves universe? No way. It is too financially successful. You guys got to think, I want to encourage you guys. You got to think like a studio. How does a studio think? Yes, creatively, you could say get rid of Matt Reeves because we got to focus on James Gunn. But financially, it makes zero sense for them to,
Starting point is 01:26:23 toss a successful element of their IP just to focus on the mainstream element. It won't because you're putting all your eggs in one basket. And if James Gunn, Superman comes out and it's middling, you've just sank the basket in the water. So you don't want to do that. Any thoughts on that? I think that Mr. Batman should still do what he's doing.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Opinions or Winston's alone. All right, let's move on to the next one. What do we got? What do we got? Corn Emperor? Thank you, Corn. Appreciate that. All right.
Starting point is 01:26:52 Logan Missyak says that would be nice if Gunn brings back the previous actors in the DCEU to play other characters in this DC universe, they deserve it. I think that's a great idea. Amanda's coming back. Bella Davis is coming back as Amanda Waller, but actors playing different characters. Winston, what do you think?
Starting point is 01:27:09 What's the question one more time? I'm sorry. All the actors who played different characters in DC in the previous universe, having them come back as different characters like Momoa's coming back, not as Aquaman, but as Lobo. And the new DC universe could be fun. I mean, when you consider the fact that it's supposed to be an alternate universe, yeah, it's fine.
Starting point is 01:27:28 There's variance all the time. End up playing kind of different characters or potentially like looking a little different. So if you want to go for it, I don't, I don't hate the idea. It's up to them. A lot of them are like, fine, I'm out. I don't want anything else to do with this. Like, I'm good.
Starting point is 01:27:40 Yeah. So if some of them want to come back, let him come back. Yeah. I mean, Gal Gadot is rumored, constantly being rumored to come back and be a part of the DCU. He said Ben Affleck, he said, Cavill. If Gal comes back, then the maker, like, Barta. Oh, that could be fun. Yeah. With Mr. Miracle. I'm down with that.
Starting point is 01:28:00 Yeah. All right. What's our next one here, Luke? Renato, back again and say more support for you. That last step, thank you very much, Renna. That last episode of Scalts and crew was great, agreed. My favorite, thus far, finally saw Superman trailer in Dolby bouncing in my scene. It was really cool on a big screen. Yeah. It was cool to see that on a big screen. It was really, really good. That'd be awesome. As for the skeleton crew, we are doing a review of the geek buddies. We're dropping our review, the geek buddies
Starting point is 01:28:27 of Skeleton crew at 1 o'clock today. So if you want to see our thoughts on it, you can do it on the Outlaw Nation channel. All right, what's the next thing here? We got, Luke. Mike Joyce, what's on? Master! Mustard! Oh, Kendrick Lamar, Revin's nice.
Starting point is 01:28:45 Mike Joyce, has any underseen movies from the year you loved? Went in blind to the order after Jeff said it was great, and it's in my top five of the year now. Wow. Yeah, any under the radar movies that you saw here, Winston? It's good question. I suppose we should have these on deck. Let's see. Let me let me look. Oh, Ultraman Rising. I, Ultraman Rising and Bates. Those are the two. I've actually talked about them a decent amount. Ultraman Rising was purely because I was asked to go do that
Starting point is 01:29:13 for Christian to cover it, you know, about a month or two months ago. Right. And it's fantastic. It is very much slept on and it sadly was pitted up against Inside Out 2. Yeah. With like very little support to kind of like, what are you going to do when Disney drops a sequel to a massive hit? And I think Inside Out 2 easily cleared a billion. So it's that's slept on. And then Babes was like when we talk about missing like kind of the raunchy comedies,
Starting point is 01:29:43 it's it's two homies. It's two women who are in that stage in life where one's been married is having her second kid The other one is about to be a single mom and them trying to sort out their friendship and what it means to be a parent. And it was all the raunchiness you would love from a movie like that. I can't speak highly enough of that movie. A movie is so funny. I thought the outrun with Cherie Ronan, which now is getting forgotten. I thought that was an excellent film.
Starting point is 01:30:11 And I thought her performance was incredible. I think she's great in the Blitz as well, which people can watch on Apple TV. That's also a damn good movie that I thought she was great in. So people sleeping on Shursey, which drives me insane. Nothing anyone has done acting-wise in films is better than what she did in the outrun. So I think she should be nominated for Best Actress, in my opinion. So that's a couple of the films that I thought people kind of looked past. I thought kill, not a lot of people saw Kill on this side of the coast here in America.
Starting point is 01:30:43 So I think that was one that kind of got pushed past as well. So people should go back and check that one out as well. All right, what else we got? Must do. Okay, thank you. Callum Fetian says, Liverpool, I've won the premiere. Wolves are staying up. But, bro, we're only 17 games in.
Starting point is 01:30:58 We got 21 more games to go. Who knows, the contract situation, please. No one's thinking that until, like, freaking April. Let's go. What's the next one thing? I really, I can't say my favorite line off TV off right now. Okay. Talking about you, Liverpool, wolves, man.
Starting point is 01:31:14 It's like, I hate blank, hate on blank, and y'all both broke. That's all I have to say. that's that's I'm tired of both of you. Brok having the titles, nice though. Natam says, how about them cowboys? Go bird, Seekwon 2K. Oh, I mean, look, Seekwan about to win me a chip. So I'm fine.
Starting point is 01:31:31 I'm honestly, I'm going to be, I'm actually going to be really mad. If Sequin doesn't want to do it, then I'll let it go. But I'm going to be really mad if anybody on the Eagles organization does not let him play next week for him to go break that title because he can do it. When are you going to be in this position potentially again? Like the odds of you genuinely being close enough to break Dickerson's record are, next to none. So let them go for it, man. I say the first half, after the first half,
Starting point is 01:31:54 you got to sit him. All right, what's the next one here, Luke? Francisco Lopez says, I hope we can get both the Batman 2 in its own universe, in its own universe, and the Brave of the Bolden and DCU. I really want to finally see the Bat family in the DCU. I agree.
Starting point is 01:32:07 I want to see the Bat family. All right, I agree. Let's move on. Thank you. Joe Nintendo TV. Jason Momoa for me is a better fit for Lobo than Aquaman, even though I liked him and Zach Snyder. Justice League. Yeah, I agree. I think he's a better Lobo naturally.
Starting point is 01:32:22 I liked him as Aquaman. He was a fun Aquaman for Zach Snyder's approach. But I think only Zach Snyder could have directed those films to get the best out of him. No offense to James Juan. But those films were terrible. And I thought he could have done a better job if Zach Snyder had been allowed to keep directing him as that role as that character in Justice League movies. So, yeah. All right. What else we got to hear? Mike Joyce back then. It's game time question. Who should coach the hapless bears? Well, I mean, Belichick's gone now, so you're not going to do that. Who's on the chopping block?
Starting point is 01:32:53 Or who's been out for a while? I think the dude who is, you better go get the offensive coordinator of the Lions. You better go get him. That's the guy you got to go get. What about Eric B. Enemy? Where he at? He got fired from UCLA after a year being their offensive coordinator. So what about Pete Carroll?
Starting point is 01:33:11 Pete Carroll, I think he's too old, but sure, maybe, maybe. Maybe. I think Ben Johnson. These are options. Let's go, yeah. Oh, it's next here. Derek Johnson, what's up? Derek, it says, question for James Gunn stands.
Starting point is 01:33:27 How does Peacemaker continue when the very reason he was in the hospital in the first episode relates to the first movie he got shot in where Harley Quinn exists, even if you take out the Justice League cameo? James says he's going to explain it. So, Derek, we have to wait for James to explain everything, I think, at this point, right? I literally think it's a scenario of someone goes, let me explain. Okay, explain. And then if they explain it, well, you don't, no.
Starting point is 01:33:54 And if they don't, you go, bullshit. Did you watch community? Yeah, I love community. Dude, what are my favorite episodes where they break into that dude's office of the janitor comes in? He goes, I can explain. Let me explain. And then they just chloroform them because they don't have a way to deal with it.
Starting point is 01:34:15 It's kind of like that. So, like, we'll see what happens. I'm sure there's maybe some multiversal shenanigans. There's also the possibility of just an unreliable narrator. You just need to make sure you do it well. I think you're 100% right. I think with Peacemaker, because if you watch that first season, he makes up a lot of stuff. You don't know what's truth and what isn't.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Do you believe Aquaman is actually having, you know, unadulterated sex with fishes? I mean, you just don't know what with fish, rather. You just don't know what is the truth and what isn't. with peacemaker. So that allows a little bit of leeway to make stuff up. All right. What's next to you, man? Derek, back again saying, haven't been on, been crazy, busy.
Starting point is 01:34:54 No respect, Derek. Thank you for coming in. The financial sector is wild after this election. But the love of God, check all your finances, benefits, and insurance premiums. Stuff is going to be changing just a FYI. Oh, man, Derek. Thank you for the heads up. I'm just going to put it all in bags and buried in the backyard.
Starting point is 01:35:11 I wish I want all my money in gold. you still listen to the show I want all my money in gold, sir. Give me my money and gold. All right. What do we got next? Mike Joyce is Jim Carrey is amazing and Sonic.
Starting point is 01:35:24 Favorite movies of his? Eternal Sunshine. Eternal Sunshine. Me, myself, and Irene. Oh, yes. Both Ace Venturas. Honestly, my favorite of him is not even his movies.
Starting point is 01:35:39 It's in living color. He was firemen, Bill, bro. Like, he was just so good in living color. Tell you something. Yeah, he was great in living color. His vanilla ice parody. Oh, his vanilla ice parody is classic.
Starting point is 01:35:54 That was really good. But yeah, all those films for sure. And on the mask, I think he's great in the mask. And liar, liar, liar. He's very sweet liar, liar. I like that. Truman Show, dumb and dumber. Yep.
Starting point is 01:36:03 It's got a lot of bangers, man. Definitely. All right. What else we got? Yeah. Derek says, people have to stop telling us guns not making decisions. He decided to keep a whole TV show and rework the cannon. simply because he wanted to.
Starting point is 01:36:14 He keeps running into unforced errors on Twitter. Don't say anything. I agree. And I don't know who's telling you guns not making decisions. Gun is absolutely making all the decisions. Release dates is something else. That's something where the board is telling him you got to stake out a weekend. But creatively, he's making all the decisions.
Starting point is 01:36:32 Winston, yeah? I don't know. I completely agree that he's clearly making plenty of decisions. Yeah. I just think he's running into, just running into issues. I know he, he, look. Turn his Twitter off. Turn his Twitter off.
Starting point is 01:36:45 Turn his Twitter off. She's getting crazy. Scary. Spooky. Hilarious. Crazy. Scary. spooky.
Starting point is 01:36:51 Hilarious. All right. What do we got here? Luke? Derek Johnson, have a great show, guys. Sorry, can't stay.
Starting point is 01:36:57 No, thank you, Derek. And thanks for the heads up financially. Maybe I'll reach out to you, bro. Get some advice from you on what to do with what little money I have because I certainly don't want to end up without any of you. So, all right. What's the next thing? Brooklyn.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Brooklyn. Clay Aiken for Clayface. Yes, no, baby, well. Holy God. What the fuck? Clay Aiken? Just because they both got clay and they name? Hell no.
Starting point is 01:37:24 Hell no. I almost honestly would want to maybe see like a Daniel Day Lewis and he's like, I know he's retired, but like he plays a failed actor. Which would be really funny. And so now that he's got these powers, he's trying to do it. But I don't know. Bro, that's a great suggestion. What a way to bring him back in.
Starting point is 01:37:42 I think he'd have fun coming back. It's not too serious. I get to play this character. I get to have some fun. That would be awesome, actually. All right, what's our next one? Andrew Dice Clay is Clayface. There you go.
Starting point is 01:37:53 Mr. Dyer says, haven't seen Nosferatu yet. Thinking about going tonight. How does it hold up against Eggers movies? I like them all, but my favorite was The Witch. Yeah. I would say that's Northman is number one. I think Nosferatu is number two, which three, and then subsequent one,
Starting point is 01:38:10 and then Lighthouse, and that's my ranking. for it for sure. Do you have any rankings? I'm not really familiar with his with his game because I don't I haven't seen the witch. I haven't seen the lighthouse. I haven't seen the Northman. So I, you know, I can't answer that. Okay. All right. Let's move on. Blake Gilbert. What's up? Blake. Look at that smile. Look at Blake's smile. My top 10 movies of 2024. Number 10, Civil War, number nine, juror number two. Good choice. The cleanest foot film. Number eight, alien Romulus. Hell yeah, I like that. Seven. Hitman, six, a Nora. Five long legs, four, Ridge. Hell yeah. Three, Sonic three, two, Nostferatu,
Starting point is 01:38:46 and one, Doom Part 2. I like I'm picking up what you're putting down there, friend. Yes. Clay Aiken Clay Aiken for Clayface. Y'all must be out. Your motherfucker is I only have one song from Clay
Starting point is 01:39:04 Aken, and it's the song he sang when he won American Idol, which I thought was awesome. He did not win American Idol. Oh, right there. Ruben covered. How? one yeah dare you I will not allow you to erase fat black man
Starting point is 01:39:17 from history that's my boy I'm sorry for 2004 you son of a bitch this is the night I think is the song all right let's move on what's the next one here
Starting point is 01:39:28 thank you Luke Brooklyn Roka any news to the rumor in Agatha season two the character Wiccan will be traveling to your anus hello hello no
Starting point is 01:39:37 I don't think you're crazy scary spooky hilarious guess what? If he was traveling to my anus, ain't nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with it, Brooklyn. All right, let's move on. Thanks one. Dancing Dog City says, film purists act like every damn movie in the 70s and 80s was great. No, there was a ton of. William. There was a ton of dog shit movies back then, too. Sorry, Tarantino. No, no. I think they asked, act like all the great movies were really great in the 1970s. There are some bad movies in every decade. A lot of bad movies. in every decade. So, but the, but I think the greatest decade of cinema was the 70s because a lot of the
Starting point is 01:40:15 films you see now were influenced by the filmmakers who made them back in the 1970s. So yeah. I mean, I think it's like anything else. Like, you might have the occasional like band or song that like pops up and you go, oh, it was a great.
Starting point is 01:40:30 You go, no, they weren't. They had one song. They had one run. But the ones that get talked about like that have a tendency to be the ones that actually did stand. the test of time and we're at the top of their game. So, like, when you think about the 90s,
Starting point is 01:40:44 we don't sit here and talk about every 90s TV show and every 90s movie was great. We say, like, the same 10. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I guess the wire was technically the 2000s, but I don't think that Seinfeld is, but people go like Seinfeld. Friends, uh, fresh prince of Bel Air.
Starting point is 01:41:01 Like, it's just naming sitcoms in the night. You know what I'm saying? But there are plenty of sitcoms in the 90s that even if they got two or three seasons, that were dog shit. Yeah, yeah. That's a great point. Yeah, let's move on. Yeah, that saved by the Bell reboot in college, that was horrible. It was not bad.
Starting point is 01:41:18 The one was terrible as well. So, yeah, let's move on. What was the next one here, buddy? Corn Epperson, the drunken master and the swaggy blurred. Yes, sir. Yes, sir, balancing the... I always named Mr. Batman. I'm going to beat his ace.
Starting point is 01:41:33 Dancing Dogg, 60 also goes back, says, gentlemen, if enter the dragon were ever remade, blasphemy, who the hell could ever step into Bruce Lee? in Jim Kelly's shoes, tough casting. Well, yeah, I think it would be really tough to do because that was born out of the fact that they were actual martial arts masters, Jim Kelly and Bruce Lee. So I don't see many martial arts masters getting into acting,
Starting point is 01:41:54 Winston. I mean, look, he's a little older now, but Michael Jai White, I think, could pull off Jim Kelly. He's a fantastic martial artist. He's a good actor. As far as who takes on Bruce Lee's role, I honestly do not know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:08 I do not know the answer to that. And you can't say Jackie Chan. He's way too old to play the young. At this point he is. And so is Jet Lee. Jetli is also too old. I'm sure that there's a major martial artist star out there somewhere right now. I don't know enough at this point to make a decision on that.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Maybe the kid who's playing the lead in the new karate kid legends film once he gets a little older. That could be an interesting thing for him. Yeah. All right. Well, we got next. Chris Griders has trust Winston on the multi-blown seasons. He's a Cowboys fan after all. Oh, that's look, man.
Starting point is 01:42:36 We've been blowing it. and blowing it and blowing it and since the 90s out here looking like Nancy Reagan or Monica Lewinsky. Oh, my God. All right. Move on next. Oh, magic. How do you all feel about Nolan's Odyssey?
Starting point is 01:42:54 Yeah, I like the idea of it. What do you think about this once? Do you like that? No, no, no, I'm, I'm here for it. I'm just surprised that so many people were like, what's the Odyssey? And I'm like, are you, you for real? Like, what a lot of lore is based off? Who is that?
Starting point is 01:43:11 Is that Leon Lett? Let's do a film on Leon's Odyssey. Let's do Christopher Nolan doing Leon Let's Odyssey. All right. Corn Emperor is a surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise. Christian wasn't here and there were no audio issues. Well, no, we're doing it also over stream lab or stream yard. That's easier than the OBS stuff.
Starting point is 01:43:32 OBS is finicky as hell, although Luke would probably disagree? All right. Frank D. Tank says, would Roman Raines remember? Would Roman reigns from WWE make a good Batman for the Brave of the Bold movie? No. As Batman? No. You also need to prove to me that you can actually act.
Starting point is 01:43:50 Roman has only been in like a handful of movies, I think. Not even a handful. Yeah. It's been like two, I think. And that's the thing. There is something there a little bit. Yes. Did you notice how Dave and, you know, Sina both needed time to fully devise.
Starting point is 01:44:08 develop that skill set instead of just kind of the improv action star acting they had to go and really get their chops hell no you can't put something that heavy and that important if you want to make him one of the villains maybe yeah but you cannot put an entire franchise on roman reins right now when he hasn't proven that he can act like that don't put that on roman don't you put that on roman rains all right what's her name is bisonace is terrible and is the farthest thing from country the billboard awards are a joke chris yeah that's that's what i think you look like Chris for making a comment like that. What utter nonsense.
Starting point is 01:44:42 Biontze is from Houston, bro. Who are you? Where are you from, bro? To talk about who is from, who is country, who is in country. And remember, country was swinging all over Keith Urban's D. And he's from Australia. He's Australian, bro. Please give me a damn.
Starting point is 01:44:58 I just, it's fine. Like, people, that's the thing. It's racist. People are allowed to have opinions, I guess. Even if they're horrifically wrong. We're allowed to sit there, think the earth is flat and I'm going to judge you, but I'm not going to tell you you can't think
Starting point is 01:45:12 it. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, yeah. Julius Wides is John. Will we get a best of your video from you? Yes, at some point. You know, I haven't had, I, I've had one day off. You all have got to lay around for Christmas, but I had one day off. It's been frustrating. I want to take a day, but yes, I will work on it. Thank you very much for wanting it from me. All right. Ethan, I know, I know, I think Christians is coming up soon. So look for that on this channel for sure. Ethan Barron Sitzkriegling Harris. I hope I said that right. Got my first ever comics for Christmas. What should I read first? Batman year one Civil War killing joke, Watchmen or All-Star Superman. Jesus, those are some great choices. Can you leave that up there,
Starting point is 01:45:49 Luke, so we can look at them real quick. What are your thoughts here? Winston, which one would you start with? Batman Year 1 Civil War, killing joke, Watchmen, or All-Star Superman? Holy crap. Um, if you're going in blind about not knowing any of these, I would say go Watchman. If you are, if you kind of know enough about each of these stories, then I would say Civil War, All-Star Superman. I think you're right. I think, well, let me amend that. And Winston's right in his way. I think, I think you start with Watchmen 100%, so you understand why people love comic books. But I think you can go Batman year one, killing jokes. All-Star Superman. Stay D.C.
Starting point is 01:46:33 So you're like in that world and then maybe end with Civil War since that's all Marvel. So I think that's maybe the way you want to go. All right. What's next? Corn Emperor says, I love community. Can't wait for the movie. Just we watched the Christmas episodes last week.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Oh, yeah. I forgot to watch those episodes. Boopty boopty boop. Porked soup sandwiches. My God, did that smell good? Hello. My God, did that smell good. Ammona says watch my old ass last night amazing.
Starting point is 01:47:03 Yeah, the Aubrey Plaza film. A lot of people love that movie. It's like sneaking on a people's best up. Ethan also says if you could cast any actress actress in the MCU, who would you cast? Yeah, once you go ahead. Hasn't been in it at this point? I'm like trying to find a British actor for Harry Potter.
Starting point is 01:47:20 Who hasn't been in Harry Potter? I'm not sure. Me. I cast me. There, we did it. I cast Mike Kalanowski as, one of the universe's Captain Americas, so you could finally live out his dream of being a hero on the screen.
Starting point is 01:47:40 All right, what's next? Jenny Lynn Lawson says, enjoying the show, Roka and Winston. Passes the time until my brother gets to my work to jumpstart my car. Oh, sorry, Jenny. That sucks. I've been there. You ever to jumpstart your car, Winston?
Starting point is 01:47:53 Yeah, a couple times. Oh, wow. Okay. Next thing. Ethan, Barrens, Greenland, Harris says, Winston, you got to check out Northman. It's so good. Winston, it's a revenge for Winston.
Starting point is 01:48:05 A revenge film. I love a revenge film. Yeah, Peter Sargarde and Anya Taylor Joy. It's really. Brooklyn says, Hope this New Year is blessed one for you both. Oh, thanks for not talking about my urane, my anus on that one.
Starting point is 01:48:17 Thank you, Brooklyn. I appreciate it. Happy New Year did you do. Jorge and he has said, Drake is Clayface. He has the fake accents on lock. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:48:36 That is good. Look, he's not like he doesn't have experience acting. Armada says maybe Lakeith Stanfield for Clayface. Actually, that would be a great casting. I think Lakeith would kill that. I like that. I like that casting. All right.
Starting point is 01:48:48 Ethan back again saying, who would be y'all's pick for the DCU's new Batman? Jensen Eccles. I don't think I've seen him yet. I don't think I've seen who. Jensen Ecles? No, no, I know Jensen Ecles, but I don't know if I've seen who should be Batman yet. I don't know. I have to think about him.
Starting point is 01:49:06 all right uh christ i like i like what's his face from outlander and from uh um uh was was that film with kenneth brana he directed i forget the actor's name he's scottish or irish i forget chris grigners is that crap on christmas would not country that was pop bite by because of the because of the performance that she put out there that that i mean that's fine plenty of artists do all sorts of things whether it be genre and movies or tv or music yeah that's still the music itself is, but maybe the performance is a little different. I mean, you're, again, you're allowed to have your opinion.
Starting point is 01:49:42 Yes. I do not think it is right. But, you know, I'm not going to, I'm not going to bite you because, you know, you send in money. What you want? You want, could he? He said bite me from PA, which is Pennsylvania. And there's nothing less country. As a Texan, I'm going to tell you, there's something a little bit more
Starting point is 01:50:00 country than Pennsylvania and it's motherfucking Texas. So, there's that. Yeah, I'm from that. another question. Armand is it? Snoop Missionary album was decent. Snoop's still making music? All right. Cool. Yeah, Missionary was fine. It wasn't great.
Starting point is 01:50:15 I finally listened to it. It was fine. There's a lot, a lot of sampling. I didn't really like. Corn Emperor says Michael Jai White, remaking a series, The Last Dragon, a good or terrible idea. I think he's too old. Last Dragon was like in his early 20s, the guy who played him in the 1980s movie.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Come on. He's too old, don't you think? I like it. Luke, TG1, TTV, thanks for the Super sticker, man. Appreciate that. Very kind of you. What else have we got here? And Corn with a dollar rolling in.
Starting point is 01:50:47 Thank you, corn. We're at 65 right now. Armada's Jerry Jones is... Let's please get to 69. That'll be fun. Hey, oh. Armada's Jerry Jones's Two-Face. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:50:57 He already is. He literally, one minute, one minute he's on board, and the next minute he's making a, saying the complete opposite. Yeah, he already is, man. Dancin' dog, Cicester says, Jocs, Weidon first wanted Cherie Ronan as Wanda, by the way. Oh.
Starting point is 01:51:12 Oh, interesting. I could have seen that. That's actually a very interesting pick. I mean, I wouldn't change Elizabeth Olson at this point. Like, she crushed it too much, but. Yeah. Well, I think, I think now I changed my mind. Shershey Ronan should be in the Marvel universe.
Starting point is 01:51:29 I'm 100 down with that. I want to see her in the Marvel. All right. Jay Mobile says, I love the Mr. not Mr. Batman Uni, but I feel like the more fanfare against a separate Batman unit could be hurt from the expectation of size comparisons. I agree. If James
Starting point is 01:51:43 Gunn comes out with a Batman and Matt Reeves' Batman is better than James Gunn's Batman and James Gunn is the head of the universe, that's an issue Winston. That becomes an ego issue, a creative issue, a comparison issue, and I don't care how great your friendship is.
Starting point is 01:51:59 Once you start getting compared in deficit and you're the higher ranked person, it will affect you. Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree with that. So, yeah. But I, at the same time, you cannot,
Starting point is 01:52:15 you cannot kneecap yourself with something that is this successful. You just can't do it. Yeah. You need to let it finish. I agree. All right. What are we got? Brian Yetma says, this is evil John Madden.
Starting point is 01:52:27 Wow. Oh, no. DEI has finally gotten Christian kicked off his own show. H-1B visas, baby. That's 2025. Arbana says glad to see Shaboozy at the halftime show as well. Yeah, that was great to see. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:52:46 Ethan says any video game series y'all think needs the last of us treatment? I mean, I would have said Halo if they didn't completely destroy it. They just ruined that. Um, uh, off the top of my head, um, I could actually see a dead space. I think that that could be really well done. I think you're that, that would, that would go pretty well, honestly. Yeah. I like a god of war.
Starting point is 01:53:14 You could play around with that. Um, I think you should do, you definitely have to do a new Assassin's Creed. I mean, like, that movie was terrible. I think you could do a series of Assassin's Creed. That could be really interesting going into the different versions of the game. different time periods that that game exists and that could be a lot of fun as well. Yeah, Grand Theft Auto, oh my God, can you imagine? How sweet?
Starting point is 01:53:36 That's a fun video, you know, invincible type of thing. Boys think, I can see it. Or Hey, and the answer to this is, most old school artists this year did good besides Ice Cube. Dog Pound album was very good. Oh, okay. Respect. All right. What else we got here?
Starting point is 01:53:53 Anora for the 69 questions. Yeah, yeah. I love that. Oh, we got one more. Chris Greener says, Pennsylvania translates to Penn's Woods. It's not just Philly or Pittsburgh. 85% of the state is country.
Starting point is 01:54:08 Okay, sure, guy. I'm from the United States. I'll say this much. I appreciate you sending stuff in. I'm kind of bored with the topic now. So, at that, thank you. I thank you for enlightening me. I'm going to move on the next question.
Starting point is 01:54:24 Jay Mobile says, but I do want another Batman as Patins, Bruce Wayne is weird to me. Can't imagine Pat's how we imagine Bruce or him turning into that. Oh, okay. But I would do, I'd want to do another Batman as Pattinson's Bruce Wayne is weird. Oh, I see. Okay. Yeah, yeah, I get that.
Starting point is 01:54:39 Okay. That's fair. That's fair. All right. Well, there you go. That's all the questions. 71 questions. Thank you all so much.
Starting point is 01:54:46 I appreciate it. Good start for the week. And thanks to everybody who, you know, put up with me hosting while Christian was out. He had a personal issue. he had to attend to, but Winston, thank you very much for being able to come on and adjusting your schedule to hang out. Please let people know where they can find you
Starting point is 01:55:02 and everything about your channel and your show. Absolutely. You can find me at the Swaggy Blurt on all the platforms, especially here on YouTube. Like I was mentioning, I'm doing my best of and worst of the year as we speak. The main thing, for those have been following me as far as why the content kind of slowed to a creep in the last week or so.
Starting point is 01:55:22 My computer is all but crapped out. at this point. This is about the only thing that's been able to work your stream yard right now. So I'm trying to get that sorted out where I can film it almost analog and then do that so you can still get that stuff. My new computer will be here soon. And then I've got a really nice slate and schedule going forward with the channel in 2025. So if you want to come check out the blurred breakdown where I cover stuff like Diddy or Didn't He. So you're staying up to date on all of the craziness is going on with Diddy's case and stuff like that. I've got some comedy stuff on there as well. And then lots of other. other great things popping off in 2025.
Starting point is 01:55:56 So come say what's up. And where is Blurds in the Hood live? Where is that at, Winston? Is that on your channel? That was over on the Blurds in the Hood channel. We really only do that now once in a blue moon. And we felt like an end of the year thing was good. But if you want to go watch the replay on that,
Starting point is 01:56:10 it is both twitch. com slash words in the hood and YouTube. com slash boards. There you go. Catch up with Jay and Winston. Thank you, Winston. Much love to you, brother. Happy New Year, my friend.
Starting point is 01:56:18 I won't see you. So happy New Year for tomorrow. Hope you have a good time. And you and your lady have a great, great happy new year. brother. So thanks so much for hanging out. As for me, you can follow me at the Rokas says on Twitter, Instagram and TikTok, the Outlaw Nation on Twitch, my YouTube channel, YouTube.com slash John Rokas says. We're in a couple days. I'm going to take down my Santas, which breaks my heart because I love my Santa's being a part of my life. Much love to Luke,
Starting point is 01:56:40 who helped us do this show today, big time. So Luke, thank you so much. And of course, thank you to Christian Harlow for allowing me to host today. And I hope everything is on the up and up there for you, brother. And look for more content here from the Christian Harloff channel on the Christian Harlov show coming up here on the next few days all week this week on the channel.
Starting point is 01:56:58 Until then, take care of yourselves. Be well, and we'll talk to you next time with another brand new Monday live episode of the Christian Harlov show here on the channel.
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