The Kristian Harloff Show - Joker 2 Will Be a Musical?! PLUS Dan Fogler Interview of The Offer

Episode Date: June 16, 2022

Joker was one of the biggest movies of 2019. Todd Philips and Joaquin Phoenix have both said a few times that there might not be a sequel and then rumors started that there might be a sequel after all. The latest rumor is that pop superstar, actress Lady Gaga is in talks to play Harley Quinn in the sequel BUT the big twist being that this is set to be a musical. True? False? Smart? Dumb? We cover that and more. WB has a lot on their hands at the moment. They need to figure out the Ezra Miller situation with The Flash. Do they cancel it? Recast it? Dump it to HBOMAX? In the same area, what do they do about Aquaman 2? Rumors are that they are talking about Amber Heard's role as Mera and if they should recast it, cut it or leave it be? Will Henry Cavil return as Superman? And we have an exclusive interview with Dan Fogler who plays Francis Ford Coppola on Paramount Plus's The Offer. We talk about the show, the upcoming finale, how he was cast and if there was a season 2, what would it be about? This and more on today's episode of The Big Thing. Athletic Greens: http://www.AthleticGreens.com/BIGTHING Follow the crew on Twitter! Kristian Harloff https://twitter.com/KristianHarloff Roxy Striar https://twitter.com/roxystriar Brett Sheridan https://twitter.com/misterwiggly Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's nice to see you, everybody. Welcome back to the show. It's the big thing. Yeah, we're all here, the three of us. And if you were here last week, then you caught in on it. If you didn't, you're missing out. And you decided to pick and choose what you want to watch, and how dare you? It's going to be a good one today.

We're talking about Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga singing up a storm on Joker 2. It's Todd Phillips thinking. I'm talking about that. I watched everything everywhere all at once. Roxy asked me to do it. I did it? I came through. Did she come through

and watch the whole season of the offer? Nope. She watched one. So I'll give her that. We'll talk about that. Tyco Watiti talked about his new Star Wars movie and what he's going to do.

Ryan Gosling, first pictures of him is Ken in the Barbie movie. And Brett watched one episode of Stranger Things. Good for him. I watched the whole thing. And we'll talk a little bit about that. Not a lot of spoilers. I don't know what the hell we're going to wind up

getting ourselves into. And speaking of it, of the offer. Today, have a very special interview with Dan Fogler, who plays Francis Ford Coppola from the offer as the series finale drops, or I don't know if it's series or season finale tonight drops on Paramount Plus, and we're excited about it. I'm excited to talk about everything, that and more on this episode of The Big Thing. So if you're brand new to the channel, do me favor and subscribe, you know, you should do that. Hit that button there, like, share, do all that. So we're going to get into this thing.

this is the show logo and I can guarantee you you know what I bet you Obi-Wan pops up look at that how stupid that is oh man we're cooking cooking with gas what's going on everybody welcome back tis the big thing

with me and Roxy are you a little blurry today is a little blurry that I love blurry? I don't know who cares yeah it doesn't matter anymore I'm glad everybody's back

people like this. I wrote to Roxy the other day, and I told her she tried to bail on me a couple years ago, two years ago. Super duper not what happened. I think it's true. No. No?

No. Well, anyway, people apparently like this tree up, so we're going to give it to them for a little bit. I'm a little mad at you guys, though. What did you do? What I do? I'm out of you what I do? Yeah, what you do?

Oh, man. I'm just curious what did you guys not notice? Your hair looks great. Thank you, Christian. I've been in here for 15 minutes. Well, because we're not on the air. How long we've been on the air for? You can't compliment me when we're off there?

No. Oh, okay. I was going to say I liked your eye shadow. I thought that looked really nice. I like your shirt. But I didn't spend $400 on my eye shadow yesterday. It's amazing that. Wow.

It's amazing that women spend that kind of money on the hair. My wife does too. It's tough, man. Well, because look out how blonde I am. And you guys have, you knew me when I was brown. Brown. Yeah. Almost black.

Oh, yeah. I had jet like jet brown hair. Yeah, I remember. Is Jet brown a thing? It could be. Sure. We just made it a thing. You know, I just want to start the show by telling Roxell greater hair looks.

That's what I was hoping. That's what we were hoping to do. I gave you. Give me a fellow, please. Get out of here. Get out of here, man. Shit. I will not.

I just want compliments all the time, man. And I go fishing and it doesn't work. It's, you got him. You got them. We nailed it. It's tough because your hair always looks great. And I'm not joking.

Wow. See? What a comeback. Really good. Way to come back. I ate a chocolate chip off the table instead. That's what I did. Well, he didn't know it was a chocolate chip.

No, I knew it was. There was a pebble. No, I had a granola bar yesterday. And I realized that's what it was. Was it a chew bar? Yeah. Oh, those always lose a few. Yeah.

All right, listen. Let's start talking about a couple of things. I want to start Lady Gaga. Rumored to play Harley Quinn in the much anticipated Joker 2 from Todd Phil. Phillips, the first one earned Joaquin Phoenix, a best actor win, an Oscars, whenever the hell that was. And now they're talking about part two. They didn't know they were going to do a part two.

There's a lot of rumors said, ah, we're not going to do a part two. Why would we do a part two? I don't need to do it part two. We ended it perfectly. Now, of course, movie made a lot of money, so they're doing a part two. But, rocks, people are losing their shit. Now, I saw them losing their shit at first, and I'm like, because I thought they were losing it because of Lady Gaga.

and I'm like, why are they, House of Gucci? I actually think she was better in House of Gucci than she wasn't Starzborn. My personal opinion on that, but I think she, I could see her fitting a different version of Harley Quinn. And she also played a lunatic in that machete movie with, from, I think it was the Machete 1 or Machete 2,

from Robert Arriguez, that really crazy movie with Danny Trejo. Anyway, she was in that. And she can do crazy. There's no. doubt about it, but that's not what they were losing their shit over, apparently. It's going to be a musical. Yeah.

It seems like it's one of, and I could be wrong. I mean, from what, who knows? I'm going to probably have coy in here saying, like, well, you know, in the, in 1961, they had a comic that, uh, or whatever it was. You could talk a lot faster than that. True. That's when he's sleeping. Yeah.

But, uh, but I don't know. I think it feels like Roxy that Todd Phillips is like, all right, we kind of mix it up. What if we went fucking crazy? We got, like, Lady Gaga, and we do, like, a musical, and it's inside of his mind in the asylum, and it's a whole thing's a musical. 92% of households that start the year with Peloton are still active a year later.

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I'm super into this. Yeah? Oh, I'm super into this. I do think you're not wrong that that's probably exactly how it went down. I think he was sitting there and was like, change it up. I was like, what if we did a musical and kind of threw it out as a joke? And then people started thinking, a joker.

And people started thinking more about it. And they were like, actually. I could see it. Joker is fucking crazy. It's going to be inside here. It's going to be in his mind. He's not so. Lady Gaga's awesome.

She's a very talented singer, obviously, but she's a great performer. And why not? We already have, it doesn't take anything away from Joker 1. We're doing something different. They already told the story they wanted to tell. And now it's a musical.

I think the answer to why not is because musicals don't do well. And people don't respond to them. And when you have a movie that's doing, you know, almost whatever it was, a billion dollars in business, It made a shit ton of money. What do you mean?

It doesn't do well. What about West Side Story in the Heights? Aided. They both. You mean financially? Oh. That's why you make movies. No.

For the love and the art. But this is different. That's exactly why studios make movies. For love and the art. They're just good people who want to provide art for the people. You know, you know. What's different?

This is, well, because this isn't like, you know, Evan Hanser or something. This is something that people know and want to see. I feel dumb right now because when you told me it was going to be a musical, I thought it was going to be like a stage. production that they were going to do. Oh, like on Broadway or something? I'm like, because that would ruffle some feathers. I actually, I don't know. I think that probably would do better. It's like,

fall up to the film as a. I still think people will go and see it because obviously for, and it's, what I, what I also think people should, myself included, should wait to see like, what is the actual story? Is it, people hear musical and they just think, you know, people are going to start breaking out this song. But if it's, if it is taking place inside of the psyche of this lunatic who's locked up and And inside of his head is this musical. And it's a majority of the movie, the same way that he was imagining himself on the talk show with De Niro for that time. You could understand what the premise is.

It doesn't mean you necessarily still have to like it because if you don't like musicals, you know, because I like musicals. I loved West Side Story. I think West Side Story is one of the best Steven Spielberg movies in a very long time. Nobody saw it. It just didn't do very well. People don't want to see musicals. How many songs make something a musical?

Like, do you feel like if it's five songs that people would be okay? I don't know the answer to, I guess, like, how much balance it is, right? The whole thing's a musical. There's some things that break in the song. But you could see it where it's just this lunatic who's just breaking in a song because in his head that's what he thinks it is. I don't know. It could be very creative and very weird and very fun. And, you know, people could want to go, all right, maybe that was a good choice.

It could also be a big swing and a miss. Would you rather it be original music about the Joker that they make up or that it's classic 80s, 90s music whenever this is taking place? Good question. Kind of like Moulin Rouge where it's like they tie in the songs with the story. I don't know. That's a great question, but I don't know. It really depends on the execution of how it's set up, right?

Because even when they did that song that you hear it, I forget the name of the song, but you heard it all the sports games when he's going down the stairs. Hey, the way that they used that, I thought was very interesting and unique, instead of doing some kind of original weird dance or something that he does to the music in the bathroom, which is from the brilliant score. So I don't know. It just depends on how they execute it.

I think if they do use classic music, then they might have an easier time selling it. Because for some reason, I feel like a lot of people who like comic book movies, who might not necessarily like musicals, but they like music, might be able to kind of overlook the musical element. But if they just go all out and it's like, the Joker, he's the joke. Right, right.

You know, right. I don't know. I don't know how they're going to do it. So it's, it's not, it's, it's not, I'm still interested to see it. There's no doubt about it. I'm not like, right. There are a lot of people who just wrote it off.

This is the stupidest thing ever. I can't do it. I don't know what the vision is. Yeah. Now, if the vision turns up looking like cats, then yeah, I'm going to be like, that was dumb. Some people were asking whether or not this means we'll never see Margo Robbie as Harley Quinn again.

With Joaquin? Oh, no. Why wouldn't you? It's a totally different. I think it's a fair question because of the, oh. You guys are morons. You know it's here for this. No, it's not.

I'm with you that I think we will see her again. But I do think it's a fair question considering what is D.C. doing right now with Harley Quinn or any of their properties? In general. In general, you know, we've got black. Adam and we've got a new Shazam, but what, what is our plan for our Batman, Superman, Harley, like that main core? So I'm glad you went down that road because there's so much to talk about in D.C. in general right now. Because you, like, I know that people don't feel bad for millionaires or billionaires ever, but you got to feel bad for the dude that bought Warner Bros. Now this discovery guy.

What a, what a mess he took over. What an absolute mess. And he's making moves. and there's so many messes that he's trying to clean up, right? So shitstorms. So we'll start with Ezra Miller, all right? Because that would you might as well just run out the gate and talk to. Have you paid attention to any of this stuff going on?

Yeah. So you know they can't find them right now? They can't find him. Now he's on the run. And so, okay, so let's take out the lunacy of the actual thing that's going on with this guy, whatever the hell he's doing with this kid and this kid's is out and they're missing. That's disgusting. I mean, all of it.

It's all horrible. Whatever's going on with it and they break down what the hell's going on, fine. And for, but now you switch it back to Warner Brothers and they're going, hey, yeah, we got a $200 million movie in the can. And supposed to come out in November. Well, what are we going to do with it? Nothing. We can do nothing with this movie because there is no win on this movie. Because if you release it with this guy running around the joint, wherever the hell he is,

and if they haven't found them by November or whatever or next year or whatever, they'll find them by then, but still, with all the shit that this guy has gotten himself into, everything, no matter what the hell it is, on a business side, you gotta get rid of them.

You just have to. I don't know that Warner Brothers slash Discovery is going to get rid of Ezra Miller. I think that, I know, but they just did a test screening of the flash, and apparently it did excellently. It looks great. They're talking about pushing to 20,

23, I think that Warner Brothers is going to try to get them help. I don't know that's true. I'm always, I was unaware and I have to be better. I forgot that they like to be identified as they as Ezra Miller. It's one of the more challenging stories to talk about, though, because Takata iron eyes, the one that Ezra is grooming. Yes. I guess Ezra has given the pronouns of they, them, but Takata's parents are getting, supposedly Yeah, allegedly grooming.

Yes. But the parents are saying no, what are you guys talking about? And apparently, Takar doesn't even have a phone right now. So the whole thing is a disaster. It's a mess. But let's say it is great. Yeah. Right.

But that's why the problem is this. If you don't, if you leave the movie in the can and you have this movie that could be a hit, you lose millions of millions of dollars because you're not releasing it. Plus the fact, it's the epic return of Michael Keaton, which you're not going to, I mean, I know he's going to also be in the, It's the back girl movie. Or he's going to be in, I think so. Yeah, the background movie. That's right. But he's supposed to debut in this first.

So you have this kind of Toby McGuire, Andrew McGarfield type of Andrew Garfield return. I like McGarfield. I like that, that too. But it's a good blasts in the multiverse. But either way, you have this return and you can't do anything about it because if you release it and it does well, do you want to make a sequel with this?

guy, that's part one. Part two is if you recast it and do the whole movie and do a Christopher Plummer with this movie, there's no way you make a profit on this movie because then you're going to lose another, you'll probably lose $200 to $400 million. I'm surprised this wasn't the first film I booked because that would be my. That would be right. Oh, what? You're going to play Ezra Miller's best friend.

Oh, nice. Nice. We're in the, what? Is where? Never coming out. Where? It's never coming out. That would suck.

That's so right. There are so many people that are involved with this. I know. I know. And they've been involved for years. I mean, this already has experienced so many delays. I think that Warner Brothers and Discovery has a real decision to make here,

not just about Ezra Miller, but also about Amber. Oh, I was going to say, don't switch it yet. I'm not even switching, but just right now, they have no baseline. They have no,

they don't know what they're doing. But we don't know. I think that he did, I think that he, Discovery Guy? I think the Discovery does know what he's doing. And that's why it's like, again, imagine you buy this property, which, of course, you got a chance to buy Warner Brothers and everything with it,

and you have a vision for it, and you have the money for it, you buy it. But the problem is it's like you got some big messes. All right, well, as long as this, as long as Ezra Miller can, all right, they're getting all messed up at a bar. So, you know, calm down. You're talking about the choke slam situation? All of it. Everything. Then in Hawaii.

All right. What can you do? Let's just figure it out and make sure we, we got to try to get around in Ezra Miller. Oh, there's a new problem. Oh, shit. That's part one on the flash. And then,

well, at least we got Aquaman 2. What's happening? And then it's like, because we talked about this last time, with depending on what happens with the trial itself, they're going to be in an interesting situation because they are facing a double standard. Very much so with Aquaman 2.

because they got rid of Johnny Depp from Fantastic Beasts when he was found guilty in that in that suit that she did was in the UK. So now the rules are reversed. Now, obviously, Amber Hurd is still out there saying that she stands by everything she said and she's, but in the court she was found guilty. So if you stand by that and you stand by that on Warner Brothers, then why aren't you following the same standards

from what you had with Fantastic. Beast. Now, he still got paid for those movies, and she would still get paid for those movies. But that's part, that's part one. Then you could also say, well, her- We don't even know what her contracts as though. His said to get paid, I'm sure, because she doesn't have as much clout. Maybe it only went through Aquaman too. Maybe, but like, but the thing is, even if even if you get paid for just for, even with that movie, right? But like, she now is in this place where if you, her role apparently is not even that big in this one. It cut down significantly. But the rumors,

were that there were test screenings and the people were booing at the screen when she came on and were going nuts and people were saying they're going to boycott the movie if she's in it and then there was a report that they're getting rid of her and they're going to recast her. That was a report. And then she came out and her team came out and said bullshit

not happening. It's just nonsense and silly and hilarious and not true. But again, it's based in some kind of reality because if you're Warner Brothers, you've got to go, what the fuck do we do now? It's like every day you go into imagine like for any time that you think you haven't bad business problems like

i know again i don't feel bad for warner brothers they're making a lot of money that's a shit situations and and other ones totally but those are two big shit storms to come through we're asking major companies that don't have heart to be the morality police right now and that is such a position that these people are not equipped for they didn't know that that was what they were signing up for you know, and I don't know what the right answer is. Part of me does think, and you guys might call me crazy, but part of me does think whatever project you're on, round it out, and let them finish it.

Like, let's see the flash and then just say that that's your last project with Ezra unless they get help. Let's see Aquaman 2 and say that's your last project. Like whatever you already put money towards and everybody else is already winning from, just let's get it out and then move forward. But then the other part of me is like, what do you do for the press lines? Right. I don't think, yeah, that's what you do for the sequel. What do you do?

It's so hard. That's the problem. I don't think you're crazy for saying that. The problem is also, it's a matter of, like I mentioned before, even if you were joking with it, but it's, it is about, it's about box office receipts, and it's about whether or not, like, is, are people going to see it? Because you've got to try, especially with the Flash, that movie's going to cost at least $200 million to make at least.

And at every second that Ezra Miller continues to, do more and more stuff like this, more people are going to be, you know, and there are tons of other people that work on these movies, and I saw those comments that people said, you know, whether it's stuff on Aquaman 2 and there's stuff on the Flash and tons of people that you want to support it, and it's the same way that if there's a director or if there is, even like West Side Story, for example,

and all the stuff that was going on with Anselaigort is people still went and saw that movie and people wanted to support everyone around, you know, and again, I don't know all the details in that, but I'm just saying. He's in a show right now that's crushing, too. I mean, so I'm just using him as an example because someone who's been in, whether you like the, look, Mel Gibson's still in movies, right? Yeah, and Kevin Spacey's a movie coming out. Kevin Spacey has a movie coming out.

What's that, yeah, so, what's that movie coming up? What's it called? Never again. Okay, one more time. And he's a star of that, right? Yeah, yeah. They did a bunch of reshoots, isn't they? Yeah, they had to do a ton of reshoots because they just helped replacing people with, you're like, let's get Arm-Hammer.

Oh, shoot. Let's get, you know. And he was the one that survived at all. But either way, it's just, I don't, I don't envy them. Is Cosby available? We don't know. We don't know. Maybe.

I think he is. No, I think he is. You know, him and OJ doing a buddy confit. But there was the other thing that was, that you had mentioned earlier was, then there's a rumor that this dude from Discovery of one of those wants, Henry Cavill to come back to Superman. And then they're talking about doing a Superman movie with him. that would be a great move for him, a great move to get a lot of the fans back on,

and not only just Superman fans, but there's a, there's a big pocket of people who love Zach Snyder and who love in that area. And if they brought Cavill back, could, or maybe. You're saying with Snyder directing? I don't think they're going to bring him back. I think that, I think that if they were going to do a man of steel move, and he wanted to come back to just do it, I think, again, I think it would be a massive way to win back a lot of the audience in general.

I don't think they would do that. I think you got a better shot of Henry Cavill coming back. I don't think that the Michael B. Jordan rumored Superman is going to happen. The JJ Abram one, I don't think so. Yeah. But that was also rumored. But there's a lot going on right now. There's a lot going on in general of what they're trying to do to make some moves.

they have to get past these two massive hurdles. I think even though, I think that the flash hurdle is way bigger than the Amber Hurd. Because I think Amber Hurd right now is in talks. It's still really hot after that. It was like how much that trial was insane. And it didn't exactly say that they were, you know, he was completely a great dude.

No. You just found guilty as well. Yeah. And for $2 million for sure. She was just found more guilty. Yeah. So it's. Right.

Yeah, the Ezra Miller thing. I do want to get that clip, though. A megapite. Yeah, it is really good. It's hilarious. The reason with Ezra Miller, too, it's like, we did just see him in the Fantastic Beast movie. And I don't think he, I don't think they negatively impacted the Fantastic Beast movie because the character, credence. Is that?

Yeah. The character of credence. It was supposed to be a little darker and everything. No. But I think that people don't really think of it. But it was before this. It was before. This is the one.

Not before all of this. No, no, no, before the grooming. Before the grooming thing. That was the problem. The problem. But we still don't know about the grooming.

But I know. We don't know enough about it. But this is, the other stuff is like, and I'm, and I'm still on this mindset. I believe Ezra Miller needs a lot of help. A lot of help.

And for people around Ezra Miller who can, can help, they should try. Did you see the Takata video that Takata put out? No, you know what? Rox,

I don't, I don't really, I try not to dive into these things. You know what I mean? I try to focus on the business side of it. I know, I know. That video, Christian, I was like, okay, as there's not the only one in the situation who needs help.

Right, right. Both clearly need to get some support. But this is why I also, when people say, though, when they're so hard on whether it's Warner Brothers or Disney or whoever it might be, when, as you said before, they want these corporations and businesses to make these, like more, well, you should do, you should do this. You're, you know, this person and a good person, and blah, blah, blah. And you got to realize on the other, on the flip side of it, it's about business.

And it's about, is it going to cost you dollars? Because that's how, whether you, well, it shouldn't be all my money. It is. It's what it's about. It's about money. Now, I'm not telling you that you shouldn't make good movies and good product and good stuff. Absolutely you should. You should have people interested and entertained.

And look, And we might, we may not talk about it. Like I don't know if there was a show that I was looking forward to more than Obi-Wan Canobi. When Stranger Things 4 the trailer came out, I said, okay, that'll be interesting. I'm interested. Stranger Things 4 is far superior than anything Obi-Wan is doing, far superior. And it's the investment in how much is put into it overall, it looks cinematic,

it looks all this stuff, and it's, and it's, they both have probably the same amount of money, but the quality seems to be going inside of that. And there's also the money that they're using. they're putting it to you. So anytime, you know, it's, it is all about money and it's all, it's a matter of you're swapping down your money for, for Netflix. I think Netflix overcharges, but then they, but then I'm like, okay, well, look, the money that I just put down, they're putting, they're making quality stuff like this and

there's, but you got to remember, it's always about money and how you use that money. And it's also, you know, if you're putting out of 200 million, and Aquaman 2 made a billion, Occamund 1 made a billion dollars. So when you're putting out that second movie, you want to make sure that it works, and you want to make sure that you're not going to lose cash. I just think that Aquaman 2, and I could be wrong, but we'll make more money keeping Amber Heard

with the people who wouldn't go than it would recasting her and doing reshoots. Maybe. Unless you, I mean, it depends on how big that role is. I think that is a definite for Ezra Miller. I think it's a, I mean, if you recast Asra Miller and make a whole new flash movie, you're essentially just making a new movie.

Whether you shoot the whole damn thing over again or right. Yeah, absolutely. We don't know how big. Amber Hurts role. So if it's like, even if it costs like $20 million and you hope, I mean, we can get that back? Or can we cut it down and just cut the roll completely?

Will it, will it hurt the story? Because we don't know what the story is, right? Yeah. I mean, and then I think studios have questions too about some of these are more public trials. Ezra has not been on trial yet. Amber and Johnny both have. Then there's like the Will Smith situation of it all,

you know, There are things that we see that happen. And what as a society are we okay with? Who are we going to support with our dollar? And who are the studios thinking that we're going to show up to support? Because it's not just one or two people in Hollywood now. It is dozens of people. I mean, hundreds of people in Hollywood.

And it's also a matter of when you bring up the Will Smith thing. Will Smith, to me, he'll be back in no time. I think so too. Yeah. Because we are also, our society in general, especially with Twitter. It's like everybody's a villain for about. a month and then once on that until they do something else like in the case of like Ezra miller who keeps doing things every like two months but like yeah it's like every time

and then it's will smith will oh this will always be with them it'll always be it will you know no matter what it's canon it's canon now people will people will always say things about him and there will be some people who refuse to watch his movies but there's going to be a lot of people who get over it and as long as he comes back does his thing well smith's going to be all right. You know, probably it'll take him a little bit to crawl out of the hole, but he'll be all right. And do you think that's because it's Will Smith and he's built up enough credibility over the last 20 years or whatever it is for us to say this was a one-off as opposed to Ezra where it's a five off or Amber and Johnny where it seems like? I mean, it looks like again that Ezra Miller,

I mean, Will Smith, again, someone is going through a lot of stuff mentally right now. Doesn't excuse anything that he did. I still think that, you know, you don't do that. in live television when you don't strike anybody. It's like, you know, but it's a whole other conversation. The point is, I do think that because of everything you just said, and it's a matter of how he comes back, what he says, he'll do some more interviews to do all that stuff. I think Will Smith would be fine. But yeah, there's a lot that's just going on in general and it just keeps, it's going to keep

happening. Let's take Ezra and say that they shut down the flash. They don't put the flash out. Or dump it on HBO Max. They just make it so that now the flash is just really not part of Justice League. Whatever moving forward, they either recast or Ezra's just not involved. And instead, Ezra comes out and puts out a state. We goes to trial, find out that the grooming process was maybe happening.

And Ezra says, I need help. I need support. Goes to therapy, goes to get help. And in five years, do we think that Hollywood's like, okay, we could bring back Ezra? I don't know. It's too hard to say without all the details of, you know, what's going to happen in the future. And that actually is a good, it's good transition into our next topic, which is I did finally watch everything everywhere all at once. As we talked about, I said I wanted to watch for a long time.

However, I did not watch it in the theater. I was going to. And I had my screening. It was like, okay, I looked it up the night before. I said, all right, it's noon. and I can make it out here. I had a phone call. I had to take it and make it right to the studio.

And then I said, well, it is available on Apple TV. And so I blocked out all the light in here, shut the doors, it blasted the sound up, had a couple snacks, some lunch, kicked my feet up and watched it back here. And it was just as awesome. It was pretty.

So it is available streaming. It is, yeah. But I have to buy it. I bought it. Oh, yeah. You can't rent that. So it was phenomenal. You weren't wrong.

though, Top Gun's still my favorite. But I think that this movie far superior in the multiverse in general than the multiverse of madness. But I didn't realize that the Russo Brothers produced this, which was awesome and makes

sense because those guys seemed to have a similar grasp on how time travel and everything works and time in general and parallel universes that I've always been interested in. So I was pleasantly surprised. I was pleasantly surprised.

yet not really surprised that they produced it after knowing what was going on with it. But it was, it's a brilliant movie. It is, it's creative as hell. It's, it's like eternal sunshine and spotless mind meets, like,

crashing tiger, hidden dragon meets the Matrix meets Terminator. I mean, there's all those things in there for sure. Yeah, absolutely. Did you cry? No,

but I, definitely felt the emotion. What was the, what relationship got you? I think, I think ultimately the mother and the, uh, and,

and the, uh, and, and, and the daughter, she, she was so good. You know what she did really well is that, she went from being like,

oh, they're just going to do like a stereotypical kind of angst teen going through some stuff. And they turn that on its head fast. And she was awesome. She's the one I keep saying I think should be nominated. She was great. And, and the return of,

uh, of, uh, of, uh, from, uh, from, And he was, he's, he's kind of like the Kyle Reese in, in this from Terminator.

He's also great to have him come back. Everybody in this movie was great, performance-wise. There's some silly shit going on in the show. And it's creative and it works, but there was sometimes it was a little jarring to me. Like there's a, there's like a trophy scene. Hey. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah.

Yeah. I just wish that it wasn't so pixelated in the trophy scene. Oh, yeah, right. I want to see what's... You want to see what's going on. I want to see what I've heard about it. Yeah, well, the trophy scene and there's a hot talk scene. That's all the side.

And it's like... But the thing is, they commit to it. The silliness. And it's like, okay, that kind of explain the rules and all how it works. But it was very fascinating as far as time. But I will tell you that I do this without watching this movie. But because of it even more so, I then started Googling. Like, I'm starting to get more and more convinced.

Have you read read theories on... When you die, that there's more and more theories by scientists that say that your consciousness transfers into a parallel universe. No. There are more and more scientists that believe this. And that there, because it's, again, infinite possibilities and ideas that if there's one particular choice, like if you decided today that you weren't going to come here. That that happened. That multiverse happened. Like any, like infinite, meaning that, you know, you literally like,

and then there's another choice where you crash into a pole in the way over here. But when I die, then what? So again, the theories that I, that you read about is that there's a lot of theories that say, and I had questions about it too, and there's some woman on TikTok that had some full, uh, full breakdown of this. And I should send this to you. But like, the answer to that is that you don't really, like, if you died, to us,

you would not. But however to you, you would wake up in... Would you cry? Of course I would. Right? Of course. Yeah.

But multiverse, you would wake up in a multiverse. You'd wake up in a multiverse. And some people apparently say that that is... Knowing I died or no? I mean, again, that's the question. Who knows? And then I just said, well, what happens if...

It's like, you never really die. You just keep transferring consciousness. Well, when you're old. And that's a reincarnation. That's the theory is that, you know, that you actually would either restarted at a different point. And it's fascinating overall.

And it's like, you know, there's obviously a lot of people who say, no, once you go, you go and that's it. What do you truly believe? What I hope or what I believe. Believe. I don't know. Believe, I don't know. But hope, I hope that the multiverse thing is true.

Yeah, of course. Yeah, it's just like a matter. But then again, not necessarily, because it doesn't mean you're going to wake up. And like, what if, what if you wake up in a parallel universe where the Germans won? You know what I mean? Yeah. I probably would not be here. There's worse scenarios.

You wouldn't be in that multiverse. But it's like, but it's, but I start, I'm telling you, I started, this is the problem when movies like this start coming out more because I've always been fascinated with it. And then I start going down rabbit holes again and then somebody recommended on a channel, like you should check out, I think it was Chris the Asperger guy who comes in and

he comments in every video. And he was like, you should check out this alternate, this YouTube channel that does like alternate things in history. And I was watching one where it was, what if the Germans were won World War I? which was very interesting because I didn't and stuff that I didn't realize is that

had they not invaded Belgium they might have actually won that war and then who knows what would have happened what did it say theoretically would have happened I only got about eight minutes out and I got to finish it but it was the Belgian part of it that I was fascinated by but then I started cooking eggs for the family did you guys remember sliding doors

yes just watched it recently because of this I fucking loved that really good same thing and I just remember that when you know when you watch a movie and then you just start thinking about life differently for the rest of your life. Yeah. So what if? Every time that like I drop a pen and lean down to anything, I always think like,

what if I hadn't dropped that? Should I not even lean down to pick it up? Maybe I'd be with the love of my life and be a huge celebrity. You can even get even dirtier and filthier with it. Okay. Imagine that the day before you or the day of, you conceived your first child, right? That 10 minutes beforehand, instead of banging your wife,

you jerked off into a song. your kid's not here yeah no more kid yeah and even it's like well you know you could have had sex that night yeah but it wouldn't be the same kid it'd be a different kid totally that's what the crazy shit is it's like yeah oh yeah I just started to beat one out or or or if you did be one out and because of it the next day you had sex and then that's how you got your kid that's crazy it's it's it's nuts and I don't like my my wife and I always had this conversation I was just like if I had not been there that day then we wouldn't be in this scenario right now she's like No, we would have still met somehow.

And I'm like, fate is, is a definite thing as well. You know, like, and I'm not saying that we wouldn't have met at a different circumstance, but our life would be significantly different as it is today. We wouldn't have the same children. And that's what, like, that movie, was it about time? Yeah, I was just going to say. They do it really well where. You just can't go back and mess up with things.

He makes one choice and he comes back. He's still with her, but they have different kids. Yeah. And, like, that's the kind of stuff that I find fascinating. But, um. You guys want to know a weird fate thing? Yes, please. I don't know if it is fate.

Yeah. What do you believe? man. You're in the dirt, man. You can get this over. You're just going to get it's over. The bugs eat you and you're fucking gone. So you don't think your consciousness goes anywhere.

You don't believe in any of this? The one thing that I think is bizarreo is that your body loses like 1.5 pounds or something when you die and not due to fluids or shit or anything like that. So that's what scientists believe is a soul. Like when you're talking scientifically what your soul is, that's that. And so that is crazy to me because I'm like, all right, what is that weight that you're losing. What is it? And so I think that that just kind of goes into the universe and now is energy. But I wish because I'm so scared of dying. Like, oh my gosh, you should see me up at

night when I start going down spiraling. And I'm like, oh, my YouTube, Brett, a spiral city. Yeah, see, it's funny. Because a lot of people, death is a major fear. Oh. For a lot of people. I can't think about too long, Christian. This is why I read all this stuff, though, too, man, because it's just like, I just, well, because we've talked about my, the line jumping that I, that I think about all the time. I'll explain that to you some other time. It's a long, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's on my face.

It's just essentially, like, imagine, like, if you had the ability to, like, as I just mentioned to you, where if there's infinite possibilities and you had the ability, let's say that right now, you close your eyes for a second, right? And you can't really do this, Roxie's, you don't need to close you. But if you closed your eyes and you put yourself back to, let's say, 2014, when you, you You came in to the Shmows that day and you win it. Or shit. What do you think is the most?

What's a, there's always a thing in your life that you go, had I done that differently, where would I be? What's that thing that you always think of? When I talk myself into first class and sat next to Kevin Undergarrow on an airplane. Okay. So perfect example for that. So let's say that for that particular, when you close your eyes, you go back to that or something that you could have said to even something differently that you would have said to him

or something. And you put yourself back into that position. And you could, and you live that life. and you say, okay, what if I did that instead? And we had this conversation on the planet, other things I would say to him, taking that consciousness of everything that you know right now that you've lived your life, but you could bring it to that moment, talk to him more, and live that life.

Let's say you live three or four years, and then you can open your eyes for second, and you're right back here. So you've just lived about four years, but if you wanted to, you could come right back here because time moves differently. Time moves in a way that... You mean just with your thoughts? Your consciousness, moving your consciousness. Basically what she did in everything everywhere all at once.

And like you can... She did that in times in this movie. she put her consciousness in other portions. This is what the majority of that movie was about, was putting all the different potential outcomes of different universes and being able to live in those. And you're making it up. That's the thing that I can't.

What do you mean? Like when I close my eyes and I think about, I can think about what if I had never talked my way in first class? I never met him. I never go to afterwards. I never meet you. I never, but what I'm saying is you're actually. But I'm making up what would have happened.

Well, that's what I'm saying. Imagine actually living and. watching that. I always, I always, to me, it's always like that, like one of the moments

is that Sarah Silverman moment that I've talked about a million times on the, on the show, right? Like, yeah, it's,

I mean, the fans are bored to death with it, but it's essentially I was, the first time I did stand-up comedy in L.A., I got up on stage where because on like a dare, on a PACs show at the improv. And it was my birthday.

And I got up and they were like, Rick Nortorten throwing like, all these jokes at me. And I was, knocking it out and it was packed and it was the last thing of the night people were going nuts and i was 22 maybe and i get off and i get hand on my shoulder and someone goes you were phenomenal so fucking funny and i look and the sarah silverman right you know she's a hero of mine i don't think i know this story really so so now knowing me today i would say because i had seen her

at boston comedy club in new york and and knew her from like saturday live and all these things and I, what I would say today is like, thank you so much. That means a lot to me. Can I buy you a drink at the bar because I want to get involved more in stand-up comedy? I would love to pick your brain. I'm telling you from the energy she was giving me that night. She would have absolutely done that because she was coming, she went out of her way to come find me to tell me like how good that was.

And instead, I am a month fresh into L.A. And I look at her and I go, thank you. You were great. Something about Mary. And I walked away. And she was in that movie for maybe three seconds. She looked at me like I had three penises on my face And I was like

It's the worst feeling ever It's the worst because I always say to myself Because the thing is And I'm not telling you that Sarah Silverman's going to make my career that day I'm telling you that I'm going to get more information And I'm making a contact of someone that can say Hey why don't you try to do this And who knows

And what happens? And what I'm saying as far as line jumping goes To live that moment and go okay well what happens If I actually know everything when it would happen And let's say I live five years there And then I come back and I'm right back here because time moves at a very, you know, interesting pace. But anyway, we could be, we could talk about these things forever. Brain scramble.

Bram. What do you think happened? Wait, wait, wait, wait. We have, we, unfortunately, we don't have enough time. No. You want to hear, Brad, what do you, what do you think happens? We're worm-food. You think it's, you think it's just over.

I don't want to think it. But I think, yeah. When you go to sleep, look, I'll tell you both. Your option is probably the easiest option. Yeah. Honestly, because my option and the multiverse option and all that shit, you still got to go through all the bullshit. You still got to go through all the pain. You've still got to go through human nature and all that kind of crap.

Your option, you just go to sleep. And that's it. No, you miss everything, man. Fucking hippie. The best party ever was the next day after. Listen, before we are going to talk about the offer because the season finale is on tonight. And Dan Fogler, who you know if we're talking about fantastic piece, obviously, is Dan Fogler, who's one of the best parts of Fantastic Beast,

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this show. I have been telling everybody on my show, you want me to shut the hell up about it until you watch it. Then you want to talk about it with me. The show is called The Offer. It's about the making of the godfather. I obviously am a massive gonefather fan and and I had seen the trailers and I had seen some stuff and I was like, you know, that's interesting. I'm going to check it out. One day my wife and I were browsing around. What should we start? I'm like, I was curious about this one. So we turned it on and we haven't been able to stop. It is must watch television. We binged a whole bunch of them and now we wait patiently. No, not impatiently week to week as it comes out. And now the finale is coming up and joining me. Ladies and gentlemen, he plays Francis Ford Coppola, which I'm sure is insane

anytime he hears it, because that is such an accomplishment. Praise Francis Ford Coppola in the offer, Stan Fogler. What's up, dude? How are you doing, man? It is weird. It's very strange to hear that every time. I'm sure it is. Tell me about that, dude. So when you, when you hear that, Are you, where, where are you as far as first when the audition or when the particular role comes up? Or did you have to audition? I don't know, I don't know the story behind you being cast as Copeland. It's a cool story. I, um, my, uh, I got a, I got an email, uh, from my reps and they said that you're going to get an audition for Francis.

And I said, oh, okay, wow. Um, and then when I got the audition, the header said Francis for a Coppola, but the sides for the audition were for Puzzo. Oh, wow. Yeah, and I was like, whoa. And then I was like, oh, I thought I was auditioning for Francis. And they were like, yeah, no, they want you to audition for Puzzo first. And I was like, well, can I audition for both?

Because I had my heart set on Francis, you know. And they were like, yeah, sure. So I was like, okay. So first I had a beard. So first I did I did Francis And I record whenever I auditioned I record My own lines or the other person's lines And I just kind of timing out like that

And so I had the scene with the Pacino Directing him in the famous scene In the bathroom, the restaurant with the gun behind the tank And all that And so I was doing Pacino off screen Which was crazy and then I did Puso so I shaved and then I did Puzzo

which is a great scene with him and he goes head to head with Sinatra and which is a great another Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah The Chasin's Club And so I was reading for Sinatra Offscreen, you know

And I was like, not that I would ever get Sinatra but it was so fun to like be reading Sinatra with Puzzo and then and I thought and what was crazy about the Coppola audition was

like I didn't know like I had the beard and then I put my hair to decide and I put the glasses on and I was like oh wow it's like they knew before I knew you know yeah and

but that's the part that I wanted so I send all of these auditions you know so and uh and i thought that was like i'm brilliant because because i felt like coppola would do all that he would like basically direct all the the characters and the scenes and like a general going into war man you got to put it but that's what he did for sure like patent you yep absolutely so yeah so when you so first of all how do you even prep to to you know become Francis Ford Coppola, even in an audition. We'll get to the actual casting of it and everything else.

Like, what's the prep for that? It's like a lifelong thing. So I watched Hearts of Darkness when I was, well, actually, I saw Apocalypse now. And I saw him on the beach. Don't look at the camera. I keep moving. Don't look at the camera. And sheen looking at him like, what the hell?

What have I got myself into? And I was like, oh my God, he's a director. That's Copeland. He's pulling the Hitchcock, but he's also acting in it. And then you start like, was that a mistake? Did he see it in editing? And then he's like, they wanted to keep it or did he intend that? And then you watch hearts of darkness.

And that is just a great study of him in the middle of this whirlwind. And, you know, it is. his mannerisms and his voice even and it reminds me a lot of my father like he he seems like he could be in my family coppola and um so he was just very familiar his tone and um growing up in the same part of brooklyn and the same part of new york and you know it's like it's cool you know uh the the connection there um But I've been, so that, but that was when I was in high school, you know. Right.

And then for this, I was like, I should watch something of him before the Godfather. And that's when I found the making of the rain people. And that was the movie he directed before the Godfather, and it wasn't a big hit. Right. And I just thought that was fascinating because that was a zoetrope, you know, American Zoetrope production. and George Lucas was directed it and you see Coppola very vulnerable he has to shave his beard

because they're going into like a territory where they don't like hippies or whatever and I just thought it was just very helpful to see him like that and his anxiety and then I I yeah the press that I watch

there's a lot of footage to watch but you know it was the greatest thing was like the greatest it was just a synchronicity I was watching another documentary about the Blues Brothers because I love Belushi

and that's like another character that I would think that I would play first before Coppola you know and so I just I'm watching the Blues Brothers this recent documentary it's like animated I think it was

it was a showtime or something HBO or something and I'm watching and I'm like oh this is great and then they get to the part where they're talking about you know the after party after SNL they would have the the Blues Brothers

After party and it's like dungeon of a bar and everyone would come from you know from after SNL do you know who was the bartender? No who Copeland oh really? Dude that's awesome

that's the story that is right And just what a key into his personality. Like he, this guy needs to be at the center of the freaking whirlwind, like every single time, you know. And he was there. And the bartender is kind of a director. You know, you're directed everyone's mood, essentially, you know, handing out the drinks. And he, uh, that was,

there were little things like that that were like synchronicities and the universe like helping me. Yeah, I like what you do with him, man. I liked a lot what you do with him because, you know, you see him now. It's funny, when I first moved to LA, and it's like 99, I was working at this play called Intermedia, and he walked in for a meeting. And I'm a month fresh into Los Angeles at this point, right? So, and I look up and here's Copla. And I'm like, one of my, that GI Joe video.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I'm just like, it made my week, you know, like I would just to see him. But that's like that legendary version of him still, even in like 99, he'd done all the stuff. But like when you have when you when you have to introduce him, this as you said, this is like he's in, he's in director jail pretty much. He takes this job because when you,

when you're younger, you think that this was his movie. This was his passion project. This was a thing he brought. And that ain't the story. It's, it's they brought him on. And once he took it over.

And I, and I really like how the relationship with Puzzo is, is presented as well. And so I'm sorry, as I'm watching, um, this where I'm like, oh,

there's Dan. And I'm looking at him, I'm watching do your thing. But then Patrick Gallo was a guy I knew years ago. And he was in my, he and I had the same manager. And I was like, no way. And I'm like, because I'm looking. I'm like, I know that too.

I'm like, oh my God, is Patrick Gallo. And he's crushing it as Puso. Yeah. Had you met Patrick before when you guys were. And if not, like, how did you start to form that relationship? Yeah, man. Yeah, that was, hmm. Yeah.

I love Patrick, man. He's the best. And we, yeah, yeah, to answer the whole question, when they came to Coppola, and it's in the show,

he said first, you know, he didn't want to do it, he thought it wasn't good for Italians. And then I love the story that, like, George Lucas was like, was just like, man, we need to pay some bills here.

And that's why he did it. He's like, all right, I'll do it. And then over the course of, like, because he read the book and there are parts of the book that are brilliant, and then there are parts of the book that are little out there, you know, out there. You know, there's like a very risque

and he was like, I don't know if I want to. And then it wasn't until he started pairing it down with Puzo and then realizing like Puzo is a genius and their relationship was really fun and and this is all legendary stuff. You know, you see this, there's a lot of behind the scenes footage, especially them and Godfather, too, of them writing together. And so in the script, they spend a hell of a lot of time together.

So we had these beautiful rehearsals that Dexter Fletcher put together, which I loved. And I came into the rehearsal room. It was the first day. And he was sitting there. Pusa Patrick was sitting there. And I just, I just, you know, when you walk into a project, if you're supposed to like really respect someone and they're like, they become your good friend.

Even if you don't know them, I and a lot of actors, I think they project, you know, someone that they know onto them that they love and, you know, that has all those attributes it's like you know it's old school acting thing so i projected onto him like a lot of buddies that i went to college with and stuff like that and it's crazy because he worked with a lot of my buddies who i went to college with active buddies active friends on other things so it's just a small world so what was great was i had this place i was i was renting out in l.a and my wife wasn't my wife and kids were supposed to come out because i thought that was a very copula thing to I like to have them with me, but I was like, especially for this, that Coppola always had his family around.

Right. And so they, it was like three weeks before they came out and Patrick needed a place to stay. And I was like, hey, man, you know, this is crazy, but like, you know, it homage to the method and the meta, you know, of it all. Yeah, the house, that house scene when you guys are spending all that time together and he's eating. Yeah, it was great. so I could see I know roommates man he was my roommate for like three weeks for the first first couple episodes and and that was that was priceless yeah because we just took a page out of Coppola's book you know that's what he that's what he would do he would get the actors together

and they would party and drink and and laugh together and then that chemistry comes out on the screen and I think that's what happened with me and Patrick we definitely had great chemistry when we started shooting and uh i you know i think it would have been there you know but it would have been there without the the extra hanging up but with the extra hanging out there was just a little extra sauce there a little extra it's comfortability too like instead you can tell like that those scenes it feels like

like you guys were roommates like you guys were buddies and that you you know you and you had to be on the same page and it also showed how if you want to uh if you want to talk to him i can get him pretty easy. I would love to get Gallagher. I haven't talked to him in like 20 some odd years. I would love to get Gallo. But yeah, thank you for that. But the idea of that watching that go down, and as you mentioned, where Coppola thought Puso was a genius, you can tell in the scenes, like the mutual respect that they had for one another and how that Coppola would say, no, no, no, that's great what you're doing there. But let's do this. And they had to work through those scenes and make them happen. And the idea of Pousso just eating when he's not supposed to. And

hilarious but like that also goes to where you're talking about chemistry you look at the stuff going on with copula and ruddy and yourself and miles teller and that's another relationship and i'm telling you the performances and i want to talk about that relationship with ruddy in just a second but what i'll tell you because you said something earlier you said you know when you think of me balushi's the kind of role that i would be playing but then after you see like as i brought that picture up before like i mean that's great how you guys i mean this is a great like you could see it if if then if i saw a picture of you and then him I go yeah what in a million years I wouldn't have never guessed is this like dude when that so so my wife had watched me for a while and so I went and I don't I don't have anything against us in chambers I just never really knew anything about him other than that and so he shows up and I'm like because I remember as that scenes coming in and I go who did they get to play brando right I'm like that's you talk about I mean I know Coppola's intimidating but you know and I'm like let me see and I'm like is that the dude from gray's anatomy and this guy not only does he annihilate this role he looks and transforms his face into brando at one point when he's sitting there with with with with bob and I'm like so tell me about that scene when that that classic scene where Coppola has to film him and in watching him do this thing were you in his as in awe as I was watching this well that's a thing There were a lot of famous legends that we had to recreate or have as the emotional backdrop.

But like that's, that happened. They went to Brando's house, there's footage of it. And because they had to convince the studio that Brando was the guy. It's crazy. Right? And then, and Brando transformed before their eyes. you know it was a the whole thing you know getting the shoe polish and they you know put his hair and put the tissues cotton balls in his in his jowels or whatever yeah and it was like a magic trick

like brando turns around he does this and coppel is filming with his his little you know camera his film camera and um yeah and and so it's like how are we going to recreate that. So it was kind of magical already just to see we just to see what Justin was doing just before he turns into the godfather where he's just like Brando with the blonde ponytail in his in his umono or whatever he's walking down the stairs and there's a there's a cut of that scene that is that's that's you know just of the available available footage that is probably the most surreal hysterical scene that anyone's ever seen. Just because we were all just like kind of hypnotized by what Justin was doing

because there's a moment in there where he starts describing acting. And he's just like, acting is feeling without mowing and mowing. and mowing without seeing and seeing without feeling or like we're just like and he didn't get

he kept on like messing the lineup but it didn't matter we were just like holy crap I could watch him do this for like hours I couldn't believe it like my wife and I when he pops up we're like okay let's see what let's see what what the guy from Grey's Anatomy is going to do

and by the end of it we're like wow like and yeah please please what's crazy is that he looks like a like a like a lost son of brandos or something that's what i'm saying i couldn't believe it i couldn't believe it like when he puts when he puts the mustache on in the mirror i was like wow i thought almost a deep faked brando's face onto him at one point and then then again when he's doing when he's got that scene when he's like yeah i think he should put machino in there and he's telling and and uh man and speaking to which this to me seems method acting i don't know you tell me because you're on set with the guy but like when I saw Matthew Good the years ago in Watchman and he was in something else.

I just wasn't a massive fan, but the more and more I see this guy and everything that he's in, I didn't, if I had to know right away that it was Matthew Good, I wouldn't have recognized them. I mean, this is, and from him and Justin Chambers, the same thing that they're doing, it is so easy that either one of them, and yourself included, could have fallen into impressions of these people. And it doesn't happen. It's interpretations of how they saw them as, as human beings, as, people you can see that and this and what matthew good is doing in this role man like wow so is he is he a method actor because it seems like man i think he's well that is a good question yeah i'm i'm realizing

that with with my acting i'm doing like a hybrid thing it's like a a sense memory thing everything's coming out of my own experiences and then i pepper in you know accents and certain things that are reminiscent to the person that I'm trying to portray. That man, Matthew, I've been calling him the time machine because he became Bob Evans. I don't know if he's method,

but there's something about this character for him, I believe, that it was very close to home. And he's just hitting his stride, man. It's like he's in his prime. and like I can fucking watch this is sorry can I curse I can watch his Bob Evans like on set I was in couple scenes with him and I'm like I just in between takes I was like Bob Evans in Hamlet you know I like I want to see I want to see you do all the greats you know yeah I couldn't

believe like when you watch the interviews and you see and you can feel it and you mentioned all these stories about everything in the kind of the 70s whether it's Saturday Live and everything else is 70s. What a crazy time in general it was, but like even crazier when it came to like the movie business because this is this is 70 like 71 72 in the movie gets 72 and a movie comes out. But when that that's before Star Wars. That's before Jaws. That's before like what a big blockbuster is. So like this is like when you're talking love story and all those types of movies that are being made and like that and I love the scene where when he's got trying to town and he's trying

to pitch it because nobody knew how the hell to pitch China to town. hilarious. And it was a nice way of kind of to, as you said, as you're referring to him as a time machine, this whole show is a time machine. And did you know as much about this story with how much the mob was involved? I hadn't known some stuff, but I didn't know about Colombo and all that stuff.

I knew a little bit, just the stories about Sinatra and the Johnny Fontaine part and people just being like, whoa, is that based on him? was that supposed to be him? And I never knew the full story until researching for this. But, yeah, I didn't know the whole Colombo thing.

Nice. Where, yeah, I didn't know how involved that, like, really, it was a miracle that the movie even got made. There were so many people that, you know, they had to win over. and that's basically what Miles does throughout the series he's just like putting out fires and oh my God

and like yeah I think Miles does a great job it's like he's like he's like the kid and whiplash gets into the car crash he's like screw it he just keeps running like that he keeps running

that he becomes Al Ruddy basically he just like he can't stop yeah I'm glad you brought him up too because like that was and as you as you were talking with like the relationship and I guess the same question I asked you earlier with Gallo I don't know if you if you had worked with Miles previously but I know that I had just come off of watching Top Gun Maverick and I know he probably shot that way before this I I waited to put that out yeah and they waited a couple years and I'm I've been raving about that movie like that's that to me is one of the I couldn't believe how good that movie was that movie shouldn't have been as good as it was it was so good but he's really he's really good in it but the thing with him is well whether you're mentioning whiplash, this. Even when this show starts, he kind of changes, not too much, but he changes the pitch in his voice a little bit. He's, he carries himself differently.

And I wonder, I wonder, like, as far as the book goes with him, but like how was it working with him and meeting him for the first time and developing that same type of chemistry, the dynamic differently, obviously from what you and Puzzo had to do, but because Ruddy was essentially Coppola's boss. Yeah, he was, he was trying. trying to because Al Ruddy has a

pretty gravelly voice and so Miles tried to emulate that, the timber and he had it like a different swagger like he's definitely reinventing himself now. Yeah, it's great dude. I mean like I had a respect for him going

into it. I just did my podcast. He was on my podcast and you can listen to that if you wanted to get into I interviewed a lot of the cast. And, yeah, like, the relationship with Ruddy and Coppola is, Ruddy really has to win him over. Yeah.

Because, and it's great, it gives them a place to get to. Because Coppola is not a fan of producers. As you can see, he just basically is, like, cut the studio. out of his life and he just makes his own movies with his own money um but so when al comes in it's just like here's the enemy but he needs him and it isn't until episode which is a great it's the hug basically it isn't until episode two whether in Vegas and johnny fontaine oh yeah um that character it falls through and and ruddy miles gives a great monologue he's like i'm going to just trust me i'm going to get this done for you yep and i give him the big hug and then puzzo comes in he's like let me get

in on this and then it's just like oh that moment there is you know three musketeers it's like brothers suddenly it's very humanizing yeah when you finish that scene did you know i i i felt that i like that was gonna that's gonna yeah the hug yeah the hug yeah that was like yeah we were was so important. It was all in the writing. Like, you knew it was there. The, the inspiration for all the stuff was there, but it was up to us to pull it off. And the chemistry is there, man. It's like, it's good stuff. Yeah. Miles has become a buddy. That's great. Yeah, because you can tell it's there. And like, there was even that thing where, um, there's any played off. The things that I was very, well, aware of, but not to the depth that I, that I started to now know more about was with the,

that how Coppola was almost fired many times off the film, many times. And then the crew, and then Ruddy has that conversation, you have to be on the same page with them, man. Like, you got it, right? And it's like, and so when, when they had that, even the last episode,

when he's telling, when Coppa's telling the story, and he's like, I don't ever tell you about the time? I'm like, no, I'm sure I'm going to find out. Or whatever, with the, the art director, right? So all of that, all that was just, it was it was a lot of humor in it and and not like and not humor that doesn't fit uh like human humor that would happen in everyday life and that's the type of stuff that i respond to anyway yeah a lot of that humor with coppola and gaudy was that gordony was that gordony was a genius

in his own right with lighting gordy willis and uh and coppola had or and well syndrome you know he was like always constantly trying to prove himself right Coppola it would have exhausted him but he could have lit the godfather pretty well actually if he had to and so when gordon he was anytime gordon he talked down to him trying to explain to him what a caravaggio is like it's just like yeah i know that's that's that's funny that's like yeah yeah you know that's dynamic in general, really, it plays with all the characters. And I also don't, there's a, there's so many great people in this, in this show from whether it's, uh, Colin Hanks and, uh, Berneurman, Juno Temple is another one. Man, because she's like the powerful voice. And in, and again,

in 19th, she's a cool character. Betty is a cool, cool character. Yeah. Like, all the characters are great, man. I'm telling you, I am, I'm fascinated by the show. I'm bummed because I know they can't be, I mean, unless they do Godfather part two, but then, it's like it was it was it that hard to get that movie made the godfather what i think would be cool is if like you want to talk about like what a second season might look like yes please because at that point it's kind of like the second act where it's it's it's kind of like the rise to fame yeah so they're proving them soon to prove them to prove themselves and then this act like it's like you know the classic um it's like rocky three

exactly it's like they got everything and then they and then it's like it's like what do they do with that responsibility yeah that's something that's on the table has that been talked about at all i you know it's not officially but i think that like people can see the potentially you hear people kind of chattering about it oh what would a second season look like i think um like wouldn't it be cool to see godfather part two um into pieces of apocalypse now yeah and and you still follow the same people yeah and and you introduce young denierro this time too new characters De Niro would be so amazing

and Coppola and Evans had a pretty big feud um over the godfathers um there's there's famous tephous telegrams that were pretty scathing

and um so you could you could play into that you know I'm hoping for it I will and I and as I said this before you know with um I honestly would I would say this whether you're on the air or not. I think this is your best performance, man. I think this is so incredible. I think this is so what you did and be able to bring because like as I mentioned before with the Brando stuff and it is not easy to take someone like a Francis Ford Coppola and then separate them

and go because you can see a lot of people, especially the way the internet works today. That's not Copla. I was watching that and going, that's Francis Ford Copel. That's Copeland. That's you could see this is a young Copeland because you could have easily fallen into that thing. we're like, well, this is the powerful Coppola. This is it. He's not. He's kind of, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's beaten down at this point. As you mentioned with the producers and everything, too. So it's a, it's a phenomenal performance from all of you guys.

I, I have to thank you for the show because I wasn't expecting the show. I wasn't expecting to. I mean, Dan, I can't shut up about the show. I really can't. I can't shut up. I love it. I love it. So good.

I'm crossing my fingers that you can, that you will have a season two. And now that you, you've gotten me excited for that possibility in general. I thought there was no chance. But if there's like, if there's, There's, even if it's in the ether. About in the ether, yeah. It's out there somewhere. I crossed my fingers.

But before I let you go, anything, so you work, you're out right now, so at the audience, you're in the UK right now. Yeah, I'm living in the UK. I've been living here. I, you know, for the Fantastic Beast movies, yeah, we have a nice situation out here. I got, my little girls are growing up and they're in school. And, yeah, that kind of dictates where I've been living.

They're very happy here, so we're happy here. Yeah, man. What's you working on at the moment? I have a bunch of comic books over at Heavy Metal Magazine. Okay. One of them is called Moon Lake, and we're turning into an animated show, which is really... I've been focusing on that for the moment. And, yeah, so we've got to...

at Comic-Conns and San Diego Comic-Con coming up and we're going to do a big showcase. Yeah, people can come check you out then at Comic-Con when you're going to be. Yeah, I'm going to be doing a bunch of Comic-Con this year, but definitely San Diego over at the heavy metal booth. Yeah, come say hi. Yeah, please go check out Dan over when he's in Comic-Con. And if you have not been, check out the offer on Paramount Plus. Now you can probably binge you by the time you can't even thing. And now I'm jealous of you that you can do that.

So I'm crossing my fingers. And then Fantastic Beast, we got part, it's a part four and five are coming out, right? That would be nice. Yes. From the ellips to God's ears. Okay. So, well, we've got, we've got a lot out there for you right now. And I'm happy that you're doing that.

And your podcast also is you can find that on Apple podcast. And that's Dan Fogler's 4D experience. Is that? Dan Fogler 40 Experience. man you got it yeah I just uh I interviewed burn Gorman who plays Charlie Bluthorn love his performance on the show he's so good Miles Juno's coming up for the final episode so check those I am going to be listening to those you have my absolute word on that I will be listening to it for sure I'm probably I'm probably going to listen to when I

disconnect with you here oh okay uh ladies and gentlemen once again Dan Fogler and you can find him over on Twitter on the on Instagram as well I'm sure everywhere but But make sure to go and you check out the offer. And that's it. And yeah, Fantastic Beast is also on, the new one is also on HBO Max now. So you can check that there and digital and all that stuff too. All right, Dan, as always, my man, thank you for joining me. It's good catching up.

And then whenever you can, we should just bullshit about movies. I know that's what we did last time so we can do it again. Anytime, brother. All right, brother. So Dan Fogler, everybody. And now back to the show. The great Dan Fogger playing Francis Ford Coppola. All right, Roxy, tell me a little bit about your experience, your episode one.

Yeah, so I only watched episode one, but I feel like I've seen more because it's a hefty. It's an hour and 10 minute episode, so it really, like, brings you into it. And I thought it was really good. It's good, right? I didn't expect it to be such a, like, real show. I know that sounds bizarre, but I was kind of thinking it was going to be more doc style. A lot of people thought that when you say it's about the making of the Godfather. Oh, it's a documentary.

It's like it's like a full on show. It's a full on show. And from the opening scene, I'm like, oh, this is a show that, you know, it has like soprano's vibes to it early on. I was like, that's pretty cool. And that's what I love. So I think that it's really fun. It's interesting. The performances are great.

I definitely am going to keep watching it. And I think that that was the smartest choice. but I do understand people who thought it was something else being like, what is this? Yeah, I think also a lot of people, I think the biggest criticism from some people is how authentic they think it is. I'm like, I don't care. There is a bunch of moments where they, for sure, are talking about something like, you know, where you go to a, you go to a director, right? And you're like saying, you're amazing, we need you. And then I watched that kid stays in the picture.

And you hear that that's like actually maybe not the way that it went down or there were different sentences said. But I don't care. It's a scripted series. That's, that's it. And the performances in this show are awesome. And obviously, Dan Fogler, who plays a young Coppola is great. He's so good. Looks just like him.

And then, but. Miles Teller. Miles Teller is awesome. He's the one that kind of brings us through the whole entire thing as Alan Ruddy. He does with his voice. He brings, he does. He has that kind of gravelly voice. I brought that up.

Yeah, and I brought that up with Vogler as well. But like the, it's all, but Bob Ryan, who, or with Matthew good. Yeah. He's so good in this series. And you just saw him in episode one, but like he just gets better and better and better. And like Juno Temple.

Oh my God, Juno Temple is so good in this. She gets better. She's again. Rox, I can't wait for you to go deeper into the series because you're only in episode one. Like it gets better and better.

How many episodes? I think 10 total. And are they all like an hour? About that. Yeah, about that. Yeah. So I think that's,

that's the way to do it. Is that, And I don't know what the hell he wants. Did you watch last, the recent? I loved it so much, Christian. It was great. Oh. It was really good.

But it's 30. You just started with, I don't know, what the hell, Obi-W-W-W-W. 33 minutes. Yeah, it's not long enough. So, imagine, so the episode that you watched with Hayden, Christians, and everything, too, imagine that that episode was 15 minutes longer with more development on it. And by the way, I do wish they would have done some more de-aging with him, though. A lot of people are saying that, but I don't care.

Look what I did. I'm going to show you what I did. But look, that's, and that's what my, my, my, My shit. Brits his braid. It's in the back, but that's my, but that's my, that's my stupid phone that did that. Like, they couldn't have done that. Lucasfilm?

Come on. People were talking about that, but I don't know why it just didn't bother me. It, it didn't take away from it. It just, it just was like he's supposed to be 18 years old and he's clearly 44, whatever. 40, hot. Yeah, but he is, I mean, it was a, it was a good episode. There's definitely some. It was great, Christian.

There's a couple things I had issues with. But overall, overall, overall. it was, to me, the best episode of the series thus far. But I still think that there's, it's, it's, it's silly to say, but like, Mandalorian is on TV, but it feels like it's playing in film, you know? Stranger Things is TV, but it feels like it's playing in film. Obi-Wan's TV and it feels like it's playing in TV. It feels, like, there's times where it feels like a, like.

Maybe that's why I love it, because I love TV. I love TV also as far as you have. I'm talking about like the overall feel to it, right? And that was the, it's their parts. The reason why I watch the Star Wars show, the reason I like them, people always say, why do you like TV Star Wars better than film?

Because TV is a place where you can really explore characters more and deep dive on relationships and build out. I don't feel like they've done that a lot in this show so far. I still like the show. It's not, it's not, all the way the show I was kind of hoping for because I was hoping for a kind of deep dive

on the character study on Obi-1 and the relationship we got this in this episode of the relationship between Anakin and Obi-Wan but I was just hoping that's what the show was about but anyway there's a full-on we covered this to death yesterday with Steph myself and then I did a spoiler review yesterday

so you can catch all that on the podcast feed I don't know there's a couple other things I think we covered a lot anything else you ever showed up to like a class and you feel like you read the wrong book that everybody read that's it that's what i feel like to them like i watched two stranger things oh yeah we know a strange thing so i'm saying but but i want to this is this came out this image of of gossing as ken it's pretty great thank you yes it's pretty great i'll take it's pretty great i think i read this week that simul lu said that the barbie script was the best script that he had ever read

something like that i've actually yoked on this movie yeah on on on Barbie could be fun. Yeah. Yeah, it could be fun. I think it's a great, the image that looks great. Amy Schumer was the wrong choice for that. Margot Robbie is the right choice for that. Agreed.

All right, let's, and we'll end with this. So Brett has something to talk about today. Stranger Things, haircut Magoo over here. Oh, yeah. Just a, just a cornucopia of delightful haircuts. I know. This, to me, was some of the best television I've seen in a very long time. It is, it was, so much so that I started to, I told, because my wife, we were watching,

She watched seasons one through three with me, and then she watched episode one of season four, and it was very horror-based, and she was like, I don't know if I can do that. I think I'm out, because it's just not that it wasn't good, the story is just really creepy images. So I'm like, all right, I'll finish and I'll watch it.

So I thought that one was more creepy than the rest, and then two is pretty creepy also, and she's like, all right, I'll give me one more shot, and I'll watch another episode, because I was like, I want to watch it again. I just finished it, I won't watch it again. So then she watched the episode, two and she's like, that was creepier than the first one.

And I thought, but I do think it gets a little less creepy as it goes on. No, it doesn't. Doesn't? I guess not. So I guess I can't get it to watch it. But I think I'm going to watch it anyway because it was, but you're what, your two episodes in? Yeah, I'm watching it with Blake.

Yeah, we got. What's he 13 now? Yeah, 15. Holy shit. Wow. Yeah, so he had to finish up, he had to finish up the last season because I was like, hey, you need to be like summer. Let's watch something once a week, you know.

Is he digging it? And yeah, oh yeah, totally digging it. And we got through two last night. If we started a little later, I think we would have knocked out another one if it wasn't so late. But, yeah, I think were you bringing up the part about the mean girls element that you found a bit cheesy? Or am I making another? No, no. Was that an SCN maybe?

I don't know. Yeah. But that was my only issue with it. I just, when you go like, are people really? I mean, I knew mean, mean people. But, like, sometimes just like, oh, you're. dance, dad. I don't know.

I, like, really think that sometimes it's like that. I do, too. Yeah. I do too. Especially young girls, as I was one, when they want to go for the jugular, you're dead. You're dead. That's what I mean.

I actually thought it was pretty effective. I mean, I think there's, I don't want to go into a full spoiler thing. I have a spoiler on the channel for people who haven't seen it. But there's a lot of great stuff going on. Millie Bobby Brown once again. I thought what they did really well, which I didn't. I actually saw a few different criticisms of this. And Dan Merle was one of them.

And I'm usually on the same page with Dan. I'm not on this side. He had an issue with the fact that the, I don't want to speak for him completely, but this is what I got out of his review, that he had an issue with the kids being in separate pockets for the majority of the series. I love that.

I love that. I thought that it works so well. I don't have like an Empire Strikes back feel to it that when they finally do match up at the end. And again, I don't want to spoil it. So you haven't, you're not done yet. I would assume that would happen.

Yeah, but that's not the spoiler. There's other things that happen inside of it that are massive. I got something spoiled for me, something major that I won't say to him because what I will tell you is, your two episodes of, what I will tell you not to do is, do not Google who is the actor that plays

plays Vecna. Don't do that. Is Vecna the kid? Who's Vecna? Oh, the... The Vecta's like the Freddie Kruger guy. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I wouldn't have looked up who the actor that plays the long hair... That guy's great. The guy who's...

Eddie Munster or whatever this guy's... He's been in other things, right? A couple of... He says, hey, is that one of those faces. He's really good. And he seems like a young Robert Downey Jr. Yes, he does. People have been saying that, too. Yeah, but he does, and he's great. And he continues to... When he first showed up, I was nervous. because I was like, oh, this is going to be that kind of stereotypical,

over the top, heavy metal kid. He's great on the show. I'm super curious what is going to happen with these kids' careers. Like, obviously, Millie Bobby Brown. She's already taken off. She's taken off and we've seen Finn Wolfhardt and a few different things. But, like, who is going to do what? Because I haven't seen the girl who plays Nancy do much.

Right. When is Finn Wolfhardt going to be, play Eddie Ramon? Right. Seriously. Yeah. But they're all going to be successful? No. And that has nothing to do

That has nothing to do with their talent Who do you think is going to be Staying that Millie Bobby Brown? Other than Millie Bobby Brown Steve Yeah he's I think he's the best Not the best Yeah but he's yeah

And Uma Thurman's daughter Yeah she's which I just found out That it was her daughter Yeah And she was also in a Tarantino movie She was in the once a time in Hollywood What? Yeah

Yeah feet feet feet I remember watching her in that Yeah but yeah so those are the ones I mean, I think that I would not be surprised if any of them wind up. And obviously, David Harbour, but you're talking about the kids in general. And Winona Ryder, yeah.

Yeah, but which, to me, who do you think's going to fail? Right. I hope, I hope they all succeed. I like them all. But it'll be, it's sometimes tough with something like this, you'd think, because you're kind of pigeonholed into that's the problem. Yeah, like, you look at like Dustin, right?

The kid plays Dustin. He just has such a recognizable face. that he's, to me, will always be Dustin. That doesn't mean that he's not going to break out and do some other kind of role. I mean, look at Daniel Radcliffe. Daniel Radcliffe is still, even when the poor bastard is playing Weird Al Yankovic.

Yeah. Oh, look, it's Harry Potter playing Weird All right. Forever. Forever. Yeah. But we don't feel that way about Hermione. No, but what I will say about Daniel Radcliffe, even though we still say that about him,

he still goes out there and does significant different roles in everything he does. in that Lost City movie that he did with Sandra Bullock, significantly different roles. So who knows? Maybe this kid does the same type of thing, Dustin, Dustin. But he's so good in the show. It's like Gaston, Gaston. I remember.

It's a long episode, everybody. So I want to thank Dan Fogler for coming on the show. I think Roxy and Brett for being on. Also, we'll be back the three of us again next week. Don't forget if you missed out on Sith Council, you should check that out. Tomorrow we have the rewatch of Toy Story 3 and 4 on one episode with myself, Koi and Winston, then we, that trio will be back on Monday talking about

Lightyear, spoiler review. What's the better trio? The hot dogs and spicy mustard with a bun. Oh. That's good, right? Yeah, it's pretty good. That's pretty good. All right, so check that out. Check out Lightyear. Check out all the reviews. Did you see, did you get

a screener for screening for Elvis? Everybody seems to get one. What hell's going on? They don't like me. It's a Warner Brothers, right? Yeah, and they usually like me. Oh, what's happening? figure this out. All right, listen, that's it. That's a show. I want to thank you guys for joining us, and we'll see you on the flip side. Peace out, everybody. Make sure once again, if you haven't

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