The Kristian Harloff Show - Jurassic World: Dominion - Is it Really That Bad?

Episode Date: June 9, 2022

Jurassic World: Dominion is the 6th film in the Jurassic Park series. Chris Pratt, Jeff Goldblum, Bryce Dallas Howard, Sam Neil, and Laura Dern all return. The reviews are in and they are not good. Cu...rrently standing at 38 percent on Rotten Tomatoes. Is the movie worth more than that? Is it that bad? Kristian Harloff, Roxy Striar and Brett Sheridan discuss this, Deep Water, Ms. Marvel, The Offer, Stranger Things Season 4 and Peg Boy on today's episode! Follow the crew on Twitter! Kristian Harloff https://twitter.com/KristianHarloff Roxy Striar https://twitter.com/roxystriar Brett Sheridan https://twitter.com/misterwiggly Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:14 similar to what we did when we did our apparently popular episode of the Top Gun Maverick, is it really that good? This has been titled, Is it Really That Bad? And we're talking about Jurassic World Dominion. That is what Roxy and I will be doing. discussing in full conversation here today. Brett, again, will lend absolutely nothing to the conversation, but we love having them. So, ladies and gentlemen, make sure that you subscribe to the channel.
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Starting point is 00:01:52 Let's do it. And make sure that if you haven't already, subscribe. Apple Podcast, Spotify. People are always asking, if you can't. and contribute to the Patreon. How do you help the show? Well, you help the show by going to Apple Podcasts or Spotify and subscribing or following the show. It helps us get great sponsors. And we would love for you to help us out that particular way. All right. Let's get into a lot to talk about. It's myself. It is Roxy Stryor. It is Brett Sheridan. Let's do it, everybody. It is the big thing.
Starting point is 00:02:29 One and one and all in one and all in one and one and fun and done and done. Nice to have you. I'm very excited about the new quality of the show. What do you think about that? Look at that cool. I'm so impressed by you, Christian. Why? Because I don't even know if people realize, I think I started doing Shmoh's No with you eight years ago.
Starting point is 00:02:53 So that's eight years. That was crazy. And you would show up and do your job, but now you're doing like five people's jobs. Right. You're creating the thumbnails. You're running. the board, you're fixing the cameras, you're outsourcing when you need to on FaceTime,
Starting point is 00:03:08 but like every time I come in here, there's new improvement. And that's really hard. It's been a lot. It's been a lot. But I will tell you that it's also satisfying, right, to know that you have to do it yourself and know you have to, you kind of rely on yourself to do it because with the Schmodeon being the big operation that it is, you need a full team and you need everybody to do it. And if you really want to build this thing out, I don't have any more assets to do anything. However, what I will say is a big shout out. and thank you to Thad Williams and to Terry Lynn Troxel.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Thad came over here yesterday. You notice how spotless the table and look at the roadcasters. And there are none of those little floss things on here. No, no floggers anymore. I mean, it's like you've cleaned it up. Yeah, well, how long that's going to last? We'll find out. But yesterday they came over and they helped and Thad, for people who have been asking,
Starting point is 00:03:59 they were saying, well, can you upload in 1080? And I'm like, when I figure out how? Yeah. And that came over and he fixed it up. And now, so we'll be in $1080 for sure in every episode. But the thing that I figured out on my own, I don't know how I did that. For the longest time when I was doing the reviews and videos on the sides here,
Starting point is 00:04:16 which is just this black box. And I figured that on my own and I adjusted the camera the way it was. But that came in here yesterday. Look how crisp and clear that. It looks really good. Look that. I mean, look, I'm really loving it. You look great, Rox.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Thanks, friends. And the red's working for you. Oh, I appreciate that. I figured that I was going to be a little bit. blurry today, so I didn't put anything on my face. You're wrong. And now I'm not blurry. So next time I'm doing a full-bloodged face for you guys. And this is just, but I mentioned on Twitter a little while ago that we were starting
Starting point is 00:04:46 kind of the new phase of the show. And we were going to start doing the three of us more. And we were going to start moving into a studio soon, but we were going to start to design this studio a little bit more. What people can't see on the far right over there, there is a, there's another camera set up. And that, if you notice, that is going to be our wide shot. Whoa. And I have, there you go. Brett's back.
Starting point is 00:05:09 We need a wide shot. But the problem is at the moment, I don't have the cord to stretch out to, to get here yet. So we can't do it just yet. But we're ordering the cord and we're going to, we're going to have a wide shot. So then finally, people have been asking for a wide shot forever. So it doesn't just look like the three of us are zooming right now. So we're making improvements.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Oh, yeah. Do you think most people think we're not in the same room? I don't, I think not as much as when we first started. When we first started people like, oh, when do you guys get back in studio? Like we're literally in studio right now. So. Come on people. That's on them.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Get it together. So lots to get into, man. Let's, you want to just get right into it, Rox? I'm nervous, Christian. Why are you nervous? Because I, I love everything and I love about myself that I love everything.
Starting point is 00:05:53 And when you mention things that I know I'm not ready to talk positively about. This is one of them. Yeah, yeah, man. I mean, come on. Come on. So let me ask you the question. And as it says, on the thumbnail.
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Starting point is 00:06:39 I liked it least of everybody in the theater. You really hated it. You really didn't. I really didn't like it. I hate saying that because I understand that it took three years of people's lives to make a movie. Like, who am I to sit here? Oh, you're a person who watches movies. You're allowed to say whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I don't like to dick on people. So I didn't like it. It wasn't for you. The story was not well told. It's convoluted. It was, it was, look, here's the thing with this movie. I did not hate it as much as you do it. And as far as even answer my own question, is it that bad?
Starting point is 00:07:16 No, I don't think it's that bad. What's that bad? Like, Deer Evan Hansen? Fallen kingdom. Okay. Fallen kingdom is. Try not to spoil it for me. I've seen the first Jurassic Park and none of the other one.
Starting point is 00:07:26 You and Stephsabro both. Both, yeah. Do me a favor, please. Get out of here. Get out right here, man. Shit. So the, um, it. Fallen Kingdom is terrible.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Fallen Kingdom is, there's like a half an hour of good, and then the rest of it is just, oh, my God, just hit me over ahead with a baseball bat and put me out of my misery. I disliked this every bit as much as I disliked that way. You felt that way. I didn't feel that way. I just felt this movie, because I think that what I've accepted
Starting point is 00:07:56 about this movie, as I said in my review, it is so far past the magic of the original Jurassic Park. And even I liked the first Jurassic World, 2015 Jurassic World. I did too. Didn't mind it. And I think that what they did was even though it was more of a kind of cotton candy version of the first Jurassic Park, they still tried to get, well, what if the park actually did happen?
Starting point is 00:08:17 I liked that premise of it. I liked that idea of it. And then I thought they were going to start to go more so down like the planet of the apes and make it a little bit more serious and take a little bit more of the horror elements they did. And instead they, let's take all the legacy characters back, smart, get people into the theater. But then let's just go even more so into this science fiction monster movie where, where people can choke dinosaurs and hit dinosaurs and fight dinosaurs and train dinosaurs. And even Jeff Goldblum at one point says, you're talking to a dinosaur. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:48 You and me both, Jeff. We're feeling the same way. It was, it felt like a fast and the furious movie with dinosaurs appearing. And that's what I said walking out. I heard other people say it felt like Godzilla v. Kong. Yes. You know, there was. And yes to all of it.
Starting point is 00:09:02 It just, I think what really, really hurt me in this situation was. that the night before I watched Jurassic Park. I rewatched the first Jurassic Park. And that movie is just truly brilliant. Like, it's just one of the greatest movies of all time. Everybody knows that. If you watch Jurassic Park and you don't like it, you have the problem. It's magic.
Starting point is 00:09:23 It's beautiful. It's magic. And the looks hold up in a way that that movie looks better than this movie does. The dinosaurs look better than this movie does. It's so incredible. So then when I go to this theater and to see this movie and to have all three of our main leads back and to just have it be such a dud.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I was like, what a want-want. And it's also two and a half hours long. It's too long. It's long. Way too long. Wrags. And there's even, there's, we go to different cities. We're all over the world.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Like, there's multiple car chase or vehicle chase scenes. I was like, what is this movie? Because it's not a Jurassic Park movie. You know, it certainly felt like a monster movie. And I didn't mind any of the performance. I actually thought there were some pretty pretty good new performances and some of the new characters that came in. Christian.
Starting point is 00:10:12 What? Performances? Who was bad? I'm not talking writing. I'm talking performance. I'm talking chemistry. Do you believe that Chris Pratt and Bryce Dallas Howard make love? Because I certainly don't.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Well, again, that's not necessarily performance, though. Chemistry is performance, man. Well, wait, but there's writing also what you're given. If you're given crap material that you can't connect with, and it's like, hey, now you need to kiss. Why? Because you're a couple. Okay. I actually didn't mind them.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Again, as much as you did, I thought they were pretty. Like when he said to him, you guys seemed like you'd be pretty good parents or whatever. I bought that. I like that. And I thought that the character of Macy this time around was better. Her story, I liked the way they played her story better and ultimately what it turned into. But they just try to do too much with this franchise. It's like the franchise is built to be.
Starting point is 00:11:05 simple. It's built to be simple in the first movie. They try to make dinosaurs. They re-clone, they make dinosaurs. They bring them back and things go amok. That's it. What do you think was at the core of this movie? Like if you, if you were in that pitch meeting and they're like, this movie is, what was that? Well, we got to go bigger now. And the whole thing is now that we've gone to the cloning aspect of what happens in that last movie now, there's got to be more corruption inside of what happens. It's always corruption. It's always more so of, you know, the second this thing, without spoilers. The second this thing starts, you're like, oh, that's the bad guy.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Yeah, yeah. You don't even have to, like, wait for the reveal, you know, right away. Yeah, he was fine. But the second he's like, okay, well, he's going to be the bad guy. And then, oh, that person's going to help. I mean, it's about as predictable as it gets. But it was so set up after that first movie, where they were going to use the dinosaurs as weapons and things like that,
Starting point is 00:11:57 but then how that could go wrong. And then it's like, if they would have started out, it opens up in this, like, you just see them living like the, electricity is starting to go out and they're in, and they have to, it's like land of the loss. They got to live out in these parts of the world where even if they have to go, like walking dead, they got to go into the stores and they got to get food.
Starting point is 00:12:18 But in order to do it, you got to pass like the raptors. And now the dinosaurs don't even care about the people anymore. No, they don't. They ignore them for food. They're fighting each other and they don't even care. There's one part where there's just no humans even in it and we're just watching dinosaurs. And I was like, wait, so what is at the center of this?
Starting point is 00:12:34 And also the stakes were. very low the entire time because we're bringing back three legacy characters. And you never feel like those three legacy characters are at risk. No. You know that they're back and that means that they're back. So I just felt like in the original what they did so brilliantly and why it's such a lesson in screenwriting is that every few minutes the stakes are upped. And there's a new scenario that we have to get out of. There's a new conflict. You have to figure out your way out of. For this, I never felt at risk. I never felt like, no emotion to it. There was no emotion to it. There was no heart to it. all and as I said before there was just too much um there was way too much like I don't know I
Starting point is 00:13:13 don't want to say they they tried too hard to go to over over um what's the word I'm looking for it was too complex and it was over but it was just trying to just to do too much and it was like why you stacking so many things up and like it just I don't know and like I said I said this to you when I was coming out of theater I did not hate watching this movie Like, I had to rewatch Fallen Kingdom again. You did? Yeah, we had to do it for, we did it for the rewatch series. And, yeah, and it, it was like going to the dentist.
Starting point is 00:13:45 It was like going to the dentist. And I really, really did not like that movie. This one, like, did you notice there were some parts, though, because Colin Javar was supposed to do the last Star Wars movie, and then he was canned from it, right? There's a scene in this movie where, because the dinosaurs. He wrote it, right? I believe he co-wrote it also.
Starting point is 00:14:05 but there's a scene in this many directed. In this movie where the dinosaurs now, they're kind of being black marketed and stuff too, and there's a scene where they're all, I don't know whether, it seemed like they were in a canteen. And it seemed like the actual dinosaurs were now just like the same way you'd walk in
Starting point is 00:14:23 and see like some kind of creature in Star Wars. That's the way the dinosaurs were used. And it was, and like I said, there were sometimes, you see that scene that they show in the trailer where the T-Rex comes in and he eats the guy in the middle of, wherever the hell they are. I thought that type of stuff was going to happen more.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Like, I'm telling you, there are so many times when our heroes are in risk, and the dinosaurs are like, nah, I'm not going to eat you. Why? And I'm not in the mood.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Yeah. It's like they're animals, they're dinosaurs. They would eat your face. In good news, I would watch Laura Dern watch paint dry. Yeah. She's so great.
Starting point is 00:14:57 And our original characters are great. It's also still a dinosaur movie. So there are dinosaurs. Is it, though? Well, there's a lot of dinosaurs. In the movie. So what I was told
Starting point is 00:15:07 See, what's funny, what's funny about that is I had heard things about this movie before I saw it. And I was like, and someone had told me, it's not really about the dinosaurs for a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:15:18 It's about bugs. I'm like, what? And as much as it's not, as much as there is a lot of the bug stuff, there is dinosaur stuff. I thought there's going to be no dinosaur stuff. But there's dinosaur stuff. But it's,
Starting point is 00:15:33 but again, they're just kind of like in the background. And it's like, that's a shitty idea. Hey, let's do a dinosaur movie. With bugs. And let's not focus on the dinosaurs so much.
Starting point is 00:15:45 No, let's focus on the bugs. Seriously. I can't give spoilers, but the absolute dumbest plot line in the movie has to do. No. It has to do with this dinah, a certain dinosaur being at risk.
Starting point is 00:15:58 And what we do? Oh, yes. Okay. Oh my God. I wanted to put my head through the, wall. The stupidity. You know, just for plot sake, they'll make, they'll have characters do something and you're
Starting point is 00:16:10 like, no one would do that. There's a lot of, there's, there's, that, that happens every seven minutes in this movie. Yes, yes. So, yeah. So that's, I think that's the thing with this movie. Look at overall. It's just, it's too long.
Starting point is 00:16:23 It's, there's no heart. There's no emotion to it. Um, it is convoluted. And it, unfortunately, probably should be the end of this franchise. Even though they say it is, it, it, it, won't be. So what's next, Christian? What are we going to do? What we should do if they're going to do another one is the same type of thing. Take take a note from Top Gun Maverick, right? So how much do you think Top Gun Maverick cost to make as a movie, right? So this movie, this movie probably cost.
Starting point is 00:16:52 300 million, wasn't it? No, no, not that much. With marketing and everything? I think this is the production budget. Oh, I think it was half that 150. It's about 170. Right, right. So that's a lot of money for a movie. However, it doesn't, even though it's a big movie, we know overall that it's probably that much from what they did with the practical effects and how they had to do everything. But it doesn't feel like when you think of the traditional $200 million movie, that's not what, that's the Top Gun Maverick doesn't feel like that. Because they scale back on practical effects. You understand when you hear why it's 170. Well, that makes sense. And they made their money back.
Starting point is 00:17:25 And the idea of kind of scaling down and going back and playing what they did so well in that movie was the emotion. because in no world should Top Gun Maverick be one of the best movies of the year. In no world. It is the best movie. Yeah, well, I haven't seen everything. I did. I stayed to watch it. Was it great?
Starting point is 00:17:40 It was awesome. But not better than Top Gun Maver. It is the second best movie of year. Okay, also I need to see. You did see it. That's great, though. Wow, you still happen either. I can tell you, I'll talk about it after if you want.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I don't know. I don't want you to know. I want to know nothing. I want to know nothing because I really want to see that movie and it's still in the theater. I might sneak out to see it. I'm going to see Light Year. Well, I probably have seen light you're already from the time this is aired.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I think you're going to like it as much as I did. Remember, I'm a multiverse parallel universe junkie. Me too. I think you're going to like it as much as I did, which is love it, but I don't think you're going to love it the way you love TopCon. Yeah, it's going to be hard.
Starting point is 00:18:13 But that's my point, though, with, like, taking that emotion and putting that in, and like, it's not just about seeing the legacy characters together. Because if it was just that, and we would just mention Goose and it's just playing fights the whole time, it doesn't hit the same way. Like when you,
Starting point is 00:18:29 when you care about the story. Ghostbusters. Yeah. See, we're on a different page with Ghostbusters after life. We're a very different page
Starting point is 00:18:36 because you hated it. No, I didn't hate it, but you, that worked for you? I liked it a lot. And I think that, and I think that it was also
Starting point is 00:18:42 because, because it wasn't a bunch of broads. Yeah, totally. I was like, I love everything. That's the one clip that you're going to cut out for you. That's the one clip
Starting point is 00:18:52 that you're going to make, you're going to make your sake on it. Say more things about broad. What else you got? That's it. I didn't even know that Afterlife one came out. That's how I'm with it. I'm just here to piss up the fans.
Starting point is 00:19:03 It works. I like it. But no, it's a, it's a, I like the emotion inside of that at the very end to me did work. And I thought that they played it at least. To me, I thought Afterlife worked way better as far as connecting legacy characters and connecting story together than this. I was excited about it when I saw the trailer three years ago. What?
Starting point is 00:19:24 Ghostbusters? Yeah. Yeah. I have, I borrow it. We had Halloween kills. We had another scream. We had Ghostbusters and we had this and we had Top Gun. Obviously Top Gun being the best of those.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Easily. But what's at the bottom for you? What was, you mentioned? Halloween kills. That one of the worst. Halloween kills is one of the worst movies. So you thought that was worse than Jurassic World Dominion? Easily.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Like so Halloween. I did not think that. Oh, see to me, Jurassic, Jurassic World Dominion, I can watch. I can watch that again. If I had to, it's two and a half hours, but I could watch it again. again. I don't ever want to see any. And I liked the Halloween remake in, in 20, or sequel in 2018. I liked that movie. And I'm, because of it, it's the only reason that I want to see the third movie. Because if it was a third movie anywhere comparable to that last piece of shit, I wouldn't be anywhere near it.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Halfway through Jurassic World Dominion, Steph turned over to me and said, evil does tonight. And I was like, yop. You want to see, you want to hear something funny, though, like after this movie. So, well, let me set up beforehand. So I get there and I'm there. I took Winston because we're doing the, we did the rewatch series and we're going to do a spoiler discussion with myself and Koi and him for Monday. And so, and then Andrew Guy and Ellis were there as well. So we sat with him. And we saw the girls, but they sat in a different theater.
Starting point is 00:20:48 So Ellis is like, you know, you want some treats. I get free popcorn. Anytime they give free popcorn, you're in trouble. Yup. Cats. Yeah. Anytime they give free popcorn. you're in trouble.
Starting point is 00:20:56 They want to fatten you up and they want to get you, they want to get you all, oh man, they gave us treats. It has to be a great movie. It's never good. When they charge you $75 for a bucket,
Starting point is 00:21:06 it's going to be an Oscar winner. But when you get there, they like, well, what do you want besides the free popcorn? And I said, well, if they have the pretzel bites,
Starting point is 00:21:14 because they have not had the pretzel bites at this AMC for quite a while. Months. However, I think that we were wrong because they don't think they've had the upstairs, I don't think,
Starting point is 00:21:24 has had it because that's where we've been watching screenings. Downstairs is where to go. So I'm eating the pretzel bites. Roxy and Steph come out of the theater. And not only have they just been punished for two and a half hours watching this movie, they now say like, you know what this? There's no pretzel bites. I go, I just had delicious pretzel bites.
Starting point is 00:21:42 They were really good. And their face on these two. I thought you were lying to me. Like stop it. Here's what happened in my life. Yes. I, for the last 30 years, have been going to the movies. have been very satisfied eating candy.
Starting point is 00:21:57 I'm a Skittles, Sour Patch Kid, Girl, and I've been very happy with that. About two years ago, Steph Sabra and I started frequenting the movies more often, and she introduced me to the cinnamon sugar pretzel bites. It changed my world and my viewing experience. And so now, instead of getting candy, I'm locked and loaded with the pretzel bites,
Starting point is 00:22:22 but for the last several months, they have not been there. Oh, so you're like, teased this wonderful magic and then it's taken away from you. And every time, it's still on the fucking rotating sign, you know, above,
Starting point is 00:22:34 and it's still listed. So every time I go and I order it, they say they don't have it. And every time I go, no, you gotta be kidding me. You gotta be kidding. Where is it? But you did something I don't ever do.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And which is great. I'm not defaulting you for this. I think this was a balsy move and a good move. The movie was over and you went back to get them. Yes, I did. Yes, I most certainly did. I like that. Because I heard they were there and what if that's the last opportunity?
Starting point is 00:22:57 You'd ever go to get them. I don't think you will. I just think you gotta go downstairs to get them. See, and I realize. But why would they tell you that upstairs, Christian? These people don't care. You think they care about you?
Starting point is 00:23:07 They're in there to clock in and then they're going home or they're going to watch a free movie and they're going to. Excuse me. Yes. You can just shut me up. Yeah. I'm sorry. But show me what you think happened. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Right. Okay. I'm just wondering. Okay, you guys had these pretzel bites, and now you don't have them. Like, what's up with that? I don't, I don't care. Why do I feel like you're just basically doing CPK? You're basically doing what you did at CPK all the time.
Starting point is 00:23:38 I don't care about anything that you care about. By the way, were you there when Carlin used to come in? Oh, yeah, yeah. Riley and I, he would come into the takeout line. Yeah, the funniest thing. It did something like the bill was like, 1373 and he goes 1373 great year. Yes, that's O'Reilly said.
Starting point is 00:23:57 It's a good year. Good year. Yeah. Did you watch the doc? I haven't. That's on my, yeah, I've tried to get the wife the wedding. Dad, you got to go without. I have a lot of other things I want to talk to you both about because there's a lot of things I have been watching.
Starting point is 00:24:11 I watched some movie last night that I'm sure you've seen, but I didn't, it was, it was out months ago. This deep water with Ben Affleck. I didn't watch it. Holy shit. This is something. It's something good? No. Something bad.
Starting point is 00:24:23 But it's one of those movies that I, that my wife and I were like, we just want to watch a good, bad movie. And we found one. Oh, so it was a good bad movie. It's a good bad movie. Yeah. Like it's not, but it's, it's like, yeah, like people are people's, people's, people's asses are just knee down.
Starting point is 00:24:40 There's, there's, there's, there's, that's how, that's how you pitch. Yeah, that's how you pitch it, by the way. So you start with an ass eating. It doesn't start with it. Okay. It's at one point. But, uh, but, but it's, it's, it's, it's. It's just a, it's an absolute, it's something.
Starting point is 00:24:56 And then I'm going to spoil it for everybody because it's, well, the assing. Is it a spoiler type movie? Yeah, it's really dumb. It's like, so I'm going to spoil that movie first when we come back. But before I, before I do that, I have to tell you about story blocks. And people have been using it. I was talking a thad about it yesterday because, you know, he's, I was like, how familiar you are you with story blocks?
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Starting point is 00:26:59 All right. I'm going to spoil this stupid movie. I don't know. You don't want me to spoil it? I don't know. I saw a clip of Ben Affleck and this could have been a different movie, but it was him going, I'm going to ask you to do something. And I'm not going to tell you what it is, but you've got to do it.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And he goes, and the guy goes like, he's like whose car we take no no that's something else I thought you're going to say eat my ass that's something people are going to say for you now you got his clip in the beginning
Starting point is 00:27:26 done yeah what's up with these brats eat my ass say no more that's the name of the movie unbelievable you get spoiled it but I'm going to try to zone out
Starting point is 00:27:38 I know well no because I want you be part of the conversation so we'll just wait until you see it if you ever see it well did you see never again okay one one one more time? The hell is that? That's the new Woody Allen movie. It's got, uh, yeah, it's got Army Hammer in it. It's got, uh, Kevin Spacey. What was the name of the movie? Never again one more
Starting point is 00:27:55 time. What's that about? Tell me what that's about. Go ahead. Tell me what that's about. It's a buddy cup. Is it? Oh, yeah, I heard about that. And who, and I think it's directed by a Roman Blancke. Oh, Woody Allen and Roman Plans. Yeah. Yeah. They co-directed it. Yeah. And sorry, what was Kevin Spacey's role? He's the bad cop naturally. Right. They call him the master of dreams. And what about Army?
Starting point is 00:28:22 Army hammers. He's the good cop. The butcher. He's not with the butcher. Uh-huh. Wow. Keep a straight face. You can't.
Starting point is 00:28:30 You can't on that. That was good. He never again. One more time. Never again. Okay. He needs some milk. That's good.
Starting point is 00:28:38 All right. Listen to this stupid movie. So it happened during the pandemic. They started. So it was like there was setbacks. It was a novel based on, it came out like in the 50s, this novel. Sexy novel? I guess.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I don't know. I don't know if they, if they refra. I mean, the movie is, but I don't know if they were eating ass in the 50s. No, but I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I don't know if they, if that wasn't canon. It wasn't canon. And they were doing it.
Starting point is 00:29:04 This wasn't public. It wasn't on Twitter yet. But, but either. You think so? Yeah, people were doing filthy shit back then. People did filthier shit in the Greek times. than anybody could imagine. You're like,
Starting point is 00:29:16 you know, happened to the Roman times and then just stopped? Yeah. No, I don't know. It just feels like eating asses on an uptick. I heard there was,
Starting point is 00:29:23 they had things called Pegboys that guys that would sit on boats. I'm not shitting you. Look it up. And they would sit to keep their asses ready for business.
Starting point is 00:29:36 I'm not shit. You, the grates were filthy. And I'm like, where did you hear about the Pegboys. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:45 What you asked? Story blogs, the new Pegboys. We didn't even have the internet. We heard of a shit like this. Just like ready to go. He's just waving like this. Man, I'm gone. This boat ride is getting long.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Where's the peg boys? But also, like, how ready do you have to be? You have to just stay sitting. there like it doesn't get that long to drop out. Oh my God anyway so this movie so they probably did it in the 60s I would assume so
Starting point is 00:30:32 but no it's it's it's like a they definitely have a lot of liberties with this movie and stuff but it's it's so bizarre the movie is so bizarre it's like so Affleck has made his money the characters made his money off of selling the chips that that help
Starting point is 00:30:49 drones find people to drop bombs on and shit right and that's how he's made his money. So him in, what's her name? Ana. Anadamus. Who is one of the most
Starting point is 00:30:57 beautiful women in the world. So they were dating for a little bit. Yeah. So we met on this, on this thing. Now he's with that Phil. Phil Pay.
Starting point is 00:31:10 What's the broad's name? Roxie for a low pet? Yeah. Oh, what a, what a piece of shit she is. Right? Old broad.
Starting point is 00:31:26 The contribution today. I'm wondering why he's on the show. You think he leveled down, Brett? Yeah, she's tough to look at. She's tough to look at it. A little hard on the eyes, but must have a great personality. Maybe she's a peg boy, you know? Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:31:51 We all need one. Oh, we all need it. Bring it back. Where's Amazon when you need them? Bringing peg boys back. Pegg boys. Peg boys, where they're coming to you. Sweet makes microchart.
Starting point is 00:32:07 You tell me your eye. Never again all at once. Never can. Okay, one more time. Peg boys. Exactly. So this is my favorite. So this is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I just got a text. And it says, good morning galley. Yeah. This is Emily. Yeah. This is my other phone. I just changed my phone. Follows us.
Starting point is 00:32:31 up, Gary? What in the world? I'm going to write something ridiculous. Let's see what we come up with. Hey, comma, have you seen the new film on Netflix, Pegboys? Question mark? I don't know if it's going to do what I thought it was going to do, but if it does, comma, man, is this thing going to turn heads, period.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Incredible. Let's see what she writes back. Okay. Turn heads. Turn heads. And both. Holy shit. Turning heads and turning butts this summer.
Starting point is 00:33:08 In a world. So anyway, so he makes all his money with doing the drones and all that. And then she. Oh, my God. We're still talking about the world. I got to get through this. So, but they're married and they have a kid. And they go to these parties, you know, just normal parties, whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:28 And so he's just there. He's there with his wife, and she just starts fawning and fooling around with some dude right in front of him. And he's just watching, not like a voyeur or anything. Oh, it's like a swinger party? That's what we thought, but it isn't. It's just him. That's what his wife does. She just bangs dudes.
Starting point is 00:33:48 And then so he says to this guy at one point, he goes, hey, you know. What's going to do? He goes, hey, listen, just to let you know. And I see you kind of haven't. He's like, I just think it's pretty cool. You let me hang out with your wife. He was like, yeah, just let you know that she had another friend like you, and I killed him.
Starting point is 00:34:04 And he's like, wow, that's not funny, man. He's joking about your wife. He's like, yeah, it's not funny, but it's true. And then you're like, well, is it true? He's like, I'm just kidding with the guy. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And but the guy starts to tell him other people about it. And he's like, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:34:19 And then you got to figure out whether or not he is. And you figure out whether he is or he isn't. So he obviously is because otherwise. Either way. But like, so things are happening throughout it. But it's like it starts. weird, ends even weirder, and is some stupid stuff going on at one point. You're like, well, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Why is that person even there? Or this, it's a dumb movie. But sexy? It's sexy because she's sexy. And I guess Ben, Ben's doing, Ben's doing all right for himself, you know? And it's like, like, she is, yeah, there's some, there's some really filthy shit going on in the movie. Like, at one point, she's with some dude in the car.
Starting point is 00:34:52 She just, like, spits on her hand and starts jerking the guy off. And you're like, oh, there you go. Did the movie duo? No, it's, I mean, I don't know. It's a Hulu movie. It was a Hulu movie. It was straight for Hulu. So that.
Starting point is 00:35:02 What an review. What a review. But either way. Have you heard about the Mormons that put a lawn? Is this real? Law known. I'm not shit. What is it?
Starting point is 00:35:11 Somebody was talking about that kingdom of God. I want you to host this show showtale. So tell me. My friend was tell me and his wife were telling me about the, it's the new one with Andrew Garfield. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. About the missing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And they got down this, this rabbit hole of like Mormon swingers. Under the eyes of God or something. Yeah. Yeah. Eyes of heaven. Eyes of Heaven or Eyes of God, but... It's on my phone. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Somehow, and I don't think it had anything to do with the show, but there was like this group of swingers in the Mormon community. If you have a garden gnome in your front yard, but they're a swinger. Oh, really? But they're soft swingers, which means it's just kissing and stuff like that. There's no sass, but I also learned about something. What?
Starting point is 00:35:53 Tell us. Called soaking. Soaking. Listen. This is a Mormon thing. Is that like floating? Yo, the Mormon shit is fucking nuts. Are you talking about floating?
Starting point is 00:36:04 Well, this is where you just, yeah, well, this is you just insert it and you stay in. That's floating, bro. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, tell us, tell us, tell us, tell us first. And, Naroxi, then you comment after us, go ahead. I guess floating is a step. Just tell us everything. So, anyway, okay, the, the gnome thing led to, like, this family going over and mistakenly going to the snoo person in town's house, ended up they're not swingers.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Right. But then they tell me about the soaking thing where it's teenagers. I guess, and they just insert the male inserts himself into the woman and they just sit there. They don't do any grinding whatsoever. Yeah, no, I heard all about this. Okay, my, I've been going to the same hairdresser for a really long time. That's an opener. And the girl next to her, the hairdresser next to her and I talk all the time because I go there so often.
Starting point is 00:36:50 And she used to be Mormon. So she tells me about all this fucking stuff. That's the same thing. It's called, in her Mormon community, it was called floating. And it's because you're not allowed to have sex, but they believe sex to be the act of back and forth. And so you are allowed to insert and float. So just stay there like you.
Starting point is 00:37:09 That's, is that docking? That's different. Floating, soaking, docking, man. Docking involves different. Were you docking what with your balls or something? Docking is stupid. My mom.
Starting point is 00:37:25 How do you know it? Your mom knows about it? No, she's going to go. What the hell? What do you do with your dog? Docking, my mom. Come on. Tell us about docking.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Docking is two penises, I heard, where one is uncircised. Boys are nasty. I love that this is what you studied in college. Why does that have to do with your mom? No, I'm just thinking every time I say shit like this. It's like my mom's going to watch this and go like, oh, that was interesting. How did you learn about docking? Just kids, man.
Starting point is 00:38:00 You just pay it. How are you getting the... Boys just want to learn the dirtiest shit and you'd go to the library or whatever and you'd find out. You were like one of the first people that ever found out about a filthy scene. Yeah, yeah, felching and...
Starting point is 00:38:11 What are you doing with the... How are you docked? You're just holding it? I think you're just... Remember those toys that were like a balloon but you went like this and it kind of slid through your hand because it was a balloon
Starting point is 00:38:22 but it was like... I don't know what I was described, but it was like sand inside, so it kind of... It was like a sea potato looking kind of a thing. And if you went like this, it would slide, but it never ended because the balloon, I don't know how to describe it, but basically I think,
Starting point is 00:38:39 you're doing a great job, actually. You're taking the foreskin over the other one, and you're just kind of. Back and forth. Yeah. Not unlike Roxy's idea of giving arm pitchups. Yeah. Oh, well, I think that that's still six.
Starting point is 00:38:52 That was an SEM thing. An arm pitch arm? Yeah, well, I was just curious. I don't know if I want to know about this. Oh, all right. You just curious about what? You just lock on? Just because it's always wet under there.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Yeah. Yeah, but it's probably not a great, I mean, I know, you've got to be deodoring it up if you want to go in your mind. I don't think you want the deodorant. That would be like uncomfortable. Well, I don't want, I don't know. Sweat? Yeah, I don't want this.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Nah. All right, listen. Let me go. What if it was like Jennifer Lopez, though, and she offers you an arm bitch out? True. Come on. 1990, Julia Roberts.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Maybe I'm in. Yeah, maybe I'm in. Okay, moving on, just this movie on Hulu. This is, see, this is the gold. We're back on the movie. No, we can move. We can move past it. I am watching.
Starting point is 00:39:34 What was it called? It was called deep water. Deep water. I will. Do you know why? Yeah, I mean, when you, when you watch the movie, it kind of makes sense. Not really. There are deep water.
Starting point is 00:39:45 But I will say, let's, I did, I posed a question the other day about what you. He puts the bodies in water that's deep. Stop this. What you thought was the better series right now. Now you have four episodes into Obi-Won. and you're, you know, you're about what, is it eight or I think it's eight episodes of season four of Stranger Things? Seven. Is it seven?
Starting point is 00:40:09 I'm pretty sure it seven. Seven or eight. Because there's two more left. Okay. Either way, Stranger Things. And it's probably not a fair question to ask because Stranger Things has, you know, four full seasons and Obi-1 is one season in. But if you just look comparing season one, four episodes into Stranger Things, season four and just those four episodes.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Have you watched any of The Stranger Things? I have not, but I watched one episode of Obi-1 last week. Which one of the first episode? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I'm trying to get my wife and son to watch it with me. I might just finish them because I don't know if they're going to do it. So I would say, you know, as much as I have been looking forward to this Obi-Won series, more so than I was even looking forward to Force Awakens or anything else to.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Because I thought this was going to be like the full-on prequel. I do enjoy the series. It's not the series I kind of, I'm not feeling the same way I hope they would, and I would be silly to say that if you look at comparing the two series right now, Stranger Things is just on a different level. The production of it, they're putting out an hour to 10 minute episodes, each one,
Starting point is 00:41:18 the detail on each, I mean, the last episode of Obi-Won was 30 minutes. I mean, and you're trying to tell this whole complex story. Vader and Obi-1 wasn't even really a big, I mean, it's like two seconds. It's like not even really the big focus of the show. And a lot of the same, like we talked about episode four, it's like there's a particular thing without spoiler.
Starting point is 00:41:37 You can see the spoilers and the stuff that we did on Sith and the other thing. But they do this one scene like four times in the show. And there's some good stuff in the episode. But it was kind of, it's not hitting the way that I kind of hoped it would. I put out a tweet yesterday, legit asking the same thing. but including the boys, because to me, the boys is maybe the best of Christian. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:42:04 My friend produces it. Oh, my God, your friend's a legend. She's awesome. Yeah. The show is so good, especially the three episodes of the season are phenomenal. But I feel like recency bias in terms of Obi-Wan, if you would ask me last week, I would have said more positive things because I thought episode three of Obi-Wan was like out of the park. Incredible.
Starting point is 00:42:25 Episode four was just fine. And Stranger Things, the season four, was excellent. Or at least-you-watched the whole thing? Yeah, and there's seven episodes. Okay. And it is super scary, really on point. We can tell you that they're going to close it out well in, you know, in the next two episodes for this season.
Starting point is 00:42:40 And I just think it's really great. So you're absolutely right. The comparison is just not there. It's just not fair from what, from the build-up and everything that you've been able to spend all the time of these characters. And granted, you spend a lot of time with Obi-Wan over the course of 40-some odd years or 45 years, whatever the hell it is. so it's uh but still it's it's different and i there's a lot i like about the series and i enjoy
Starting point is 00:43:03 watching the series and i'm definitely not like a lot of these people who are just hating it and saying all these things i do think is that the common i think that it's not common i think that it's half and half and i think that there are there are there are people who have legit concerns and critiques about it then there are people who are just going to hate on no matter what disney star wars puts out they're just going to shit on it because and there's until someone moves on or someone if something else happens they're always going to give a negative light to it. There are those pockets of people too, but that is not to say that the people who don't have legitimate gripes about the show aren't right. There are, and there are certain things that I think
Starting point is 00:43:36 in this show aren't working. There are other things that I think are working tremendously. What is your biggest gripe with the show? I think that right now, tropes, tropes are my biggest concern and seems to be I am really, I think that they're setting us up for the same thing they've done a million times over, whether it's Star Killer or Anakin or Kylo. Here's the bad guy, but it's not really the bad guy. He's going to be the good guy at the end. Riva is set up to be the good guy. Who's Star Killer?
Starting point is 00:44:05 Sam Whitwer in the Force Unleashed video game. But it's like... You're not a Darth Mall? He's also Darth Mall, yes. But the character of Star Killer was, you mean, designed, looks like him, like everything, although it's a whole other story. But anyway, so that is... I thought she was much better in the last episode.
Starting point is 00:44:27 I still think that, and I don't blame Moses Ingram for it, I don't think the character is written very well. And I think that there's other things, and again, without a, well, I guess if you've been watching, if you don't want to watch, there'll be time codes in here. I'll give you just a brief spoiler. You've already seen episode one, so I won't spoil.
Starting point is 00:44:47 I think that, and I love the girl who plays Leia. Love her. I think she's fantastic. I think they're spending way too much time on Lola. because they're, and I'm not one of these people who are like, they're negating everything that happens in the new trilogy. There's some things that they do in this episode that completely go, well, wait, she's already been through that before,
Starting point is 00:45:08 then she shouldn't be as devastated when this happens. I mean, because this episode four was basically just a big homage to New Hope, the whole thing. Luckily, that little actress is phenomenal, so it is fun to watch her. And I am such a Leah fan And I'm not as big of a Star Wars person as you are So I enjoy watching her And I enjoy the fact that she's she ain't no Narc No, she's not
Starting point is 00:45:31 And and and and and and a rat, she's not a rat and and and a rat and But O'Shea Jackson um junior I thought was great in this episode I thought uh what's her name? Oh shoot I always messed it up but uh She was in Rome and and Game of Thrones Oh um oh she's fucking awesome She says the thing about sir Uh, Adira Varma
Starting point is 00:45:51 in Deeravarma who plays Talah. I think she's great on the show. She's a bomb. So they still have those two episodes to wrap up at the end. If I was to rank the shows at the moment, not including animated, just the live action shows, I would go,
Starting point is 00:46:04 Mandalorian season two, Mandalorian season one, Obi-Wan and the Bobafet. That's the way I would rank them at the moment. I don't think anything touches Mandalorian right now. Because Mandalorian feels like, there are a couple times that it feels like TV, but it really feels like cinematic,
Starting point is 00:46:20 like the way that the, it shot. It feels the most connected to the original trilogy. There was a lot of stuff in episode four, Obi-1 that felt very television. Episode three, though, was maybe my favorite Star Wars TV episode. It's up there.
Starting point is 00:46:35 I would put that in the Boba-Fed episode with Luke and Grogu. That's a pretty great one, too. But I agree. And a lot of Mando episodes are really great. Yeah, episode three was of, everyone was incredible. I was not on the same page with some people who thought there was a lot of problems with it and everything.
Starting point is 00:46:53 I was, I was, I, that one was great. It was so cool to watch. It was great. It was a lot of fun. And I think, and Vader was menacing.
Starting point is 00:46:59 I think that, as you asked me, my, my problem right now is that they set up so well at the end of episode two. Okay, there's Vader in the tank. He's coming. And then episode three,
Starting point is 00:47:10 he's there. And then episode four, he shows up for like a second. He's just like with Reva, eh, okay, you little trickster, where do I go now?
Starting point is 00:47:18 And it's like, let, Vader in charge of everything. Now let him be the guy that's going after, too. We set up Riva really nice. I do, and I said this in the beginning. I think they did a disservice to the actress and to the character of Riva
Starting point is 00:47:32 because this is such a big story that we want to see with Obi-Wan and Vader. And it didn't matter who it is. If you put in this character that nobody really knows, you're asking them to put on a lot of weight on their shoulder because you're asking us to care more about that character, no matter who it is. than you are about Obi-1 and Vader.
Starting point is 00:47:53 And Leah, I guess, too. But it was wild for me, because I don't follow Star Wars Twitter at all, because you know me, I'm a casual fan. I've seen everything, but I don't deep dive. And so I just really liked her. And I had no idea of any of the drama. I was like, I like this new character. And then Staffkind informed me.
Starting point is 00:48:11 I was like, whoa, I missed it all. But for me, the character worked. Yeah, so maybe it is more, maybe her character is more for the MES. I just, but it's not, see, But the thing is, it's not necessarily the character, too. I think that, and this is not her fault, and it's much, I love Deborah Chow. I mean, like, you know how I've been raving about Debra Chow.
Starting point is 00:48:28 I don't think she's being directed very well in that first, at least in the first couple episodes. I think she's, I think she's, she overcooked, I think she's better in the last two, but she overcooked being angry. She overcooked being, like, it was just too much, like, you've got to be, you've got to be vicious. You've got to be, and it's like,
Starting point is 00:48:47 and we know where the character's going. They set it up from the opening scene. of what happens in episode one of the show. But I don't know, like I said, I do like the show, and it's not one of these things where I'm just like, and it's, and I'm not, like, when I saw Last Jedi, I saw that movie at first and I remember people saying, well, what do you, you haven't tweeted?
Starting point is 00:49:07 You haven't done it? I'm like, I'm trying to process what the hell I just saw. You haven't tweeted. And then, and then I, and then I, I know, you're right. And then I saw it, and I kind of tried to coolate it myself and convince myself, I'm like, oh, that's a good Star Wars movie. I, when I watched it, what I, as you rewatch it, and I still stand by it, it's one of the best made Star Wars, excuse me, best made films.
Starting point is 00:49:32 It's not the best, it's not a good Star Wars movie, in my opinion, but it's a very well-made film when you watch it. And I think that that's where I kind of convinced myself for a bit. And then the more and more I watch it, the less and less I liked it. I re-watched Obi-1. That's a bummer. It is. I really dislike that movie.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Like, it's, it's, it's hard for me to, watch. But do you like it more or less than Jurassic World Dominion? Um, I can't really compare the two. But if you had to. I mean, I, again, compared as a film, there's no comparison. Like that is a, it was a way better film overall. You can't mean, that's just that that being, it's a better film.
Starting point is 00:50:09 It's what I would enjoy watching more. I mean, again, it's, it, I probably Jurassic World Dominion. No fucking as, as far as, again, if I had to watch it again, because I know it's just mindless flop as opposed to. It doesn't make you angry. But it's not, it's, it just doesn't make me angry
Starting point is 00:50:25 the movie. It's just, I know that it, none of it lines up to anything. Like the, the, at least with Jurassic World Dominion, they're trying to line up
Starting point is 00:50:32 some stupid story that happened in the Fallen Kingdom. Everything is just kind of a mess because there was no direction. But that's a whole other story. Um, my point is, I went back and watched Obi-Wan
Starting point is 00:50:41 with the first episode with my daughter. I really enjoy it. And there's nothing that I'm going to say inside of that. There's not like that kind of conflict going, do I like that thing because of this and that. And how do I really feel about it? I know that it's just, and even people can scream and yell about what they like, you don't like.
Starting point is 00:50:56 I like the series. I just want to, I just hope that the last two episodes really focuses on Vader and Obi-Wan, because I don't think it will. I hope that too. I don't think it will. I think it's going to, I think it's going to lean into more so. He sent Riva to go and track them. She's going to, she's going to wind up.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Flipping. Whatever it is, discovering that we're going to learn more about her story about why she's hunting after Obi-Wan in the first place and all this stuff, and then she's going to turn good, the same way that we did in, like, what happened in Fallen Order, there's something that happens similar with Inquisitor, and it's going to be the same thing,
Starting point is 00:51:31 and I'm going to be, yeah, well, we knew that was coming, and hopefully the second fight with them is, is, like, where you go, all right, well, who cares, that second fight was family. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is, is this, probably everybody knows, but this is two seasons, do you think, or is it going to... So it was supposed to just be a limited series.
Starting point is 00:51:48 That's what I thought. But, Before it even came out because of the hype around it, Kathleen Kennedy and even Eum McGregor started hinting that it could be a second season. And it's crushing on ratings as it should. Oh, really? Oh, it's crushing. The first episode of Obi-1 was the most streamed any Disney Plus show ever.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Wow. So, yeah, it's crushing. So you could understand why it would be because it goes back to the difference between streaming and film. if you put out a movie like you put Last Jedi out which was divisive we can't whether you liked it or not it's I did yeah right but it's but it's but it's divisive you can't I mean there's no there's no doubt about it and it caused a lot of friction in between the people who loved it and people who didn't and some people say that one of the many things wrong with the release of solo whether it's the marketing a month after infinity war all
Starting point is 00:52:42 the stuff one of those variables was the fact that it was also released three or months after the Last Jedi, right? So people who didn't want to see it, because the Last Jedi, I'm not spending my money on that. The same people who don't like this show for whatever reasons, right, and they have a subscription to Disney Plus and they're not canceling it, they're going to watch all the shows that come out. They're going to watch, they're going to watch And Ward, they're going to watch whatever
Starting point is 00:53:10 the Mandalorian season three, unless they've canceled their subscriptions altogether. It doesn't seem like that's happening. why wouldn't you if you're paying for it? It's like, well, I'll check out. Even if you're going to hate watch it. You just, is a difference between going to spend your money at the theater if you're already spending money and your credit cards getting billed for the thing. That's the difference between streaming.
Starting point is 00:53:27 And that's the difference why these shows will keep getting made and why there could potentially be a season two. But I don't think people hate this the same way that they hate Last Jedi. I, um, yeah, I just, I hope I hope it delivers really well. Because of the other thing I said to you many times over, the difference between movies. Like, Last Jedi, you had to, wait three years or two years before and for people and a lot of people didn't like rise to
Starting point is 00:53:52 Skywalker anyway but two years you have to wait for a film before you you can just stew in that stink if you didn't like this chapter four then chapter five comes out and if you love it one week washed away and that's that's uh that's the beauty of stream i completely agree i feel like that was the the overall consensus at least from what i saw after episode three people who hadn't loved one and two were like no the show is great and now after episode four it's kind of like wishy-wash you again yeah and I think that that's and and if they
Starting point is 00:54:22 next week comes out they got it like I said I love the character of Leah I love the little girl playing her let's let's let's focus on Obi-1 and Invader for two episodes if we can do that like a two-hour movie this 30 minute thing it was
Starting point is 00:54:39 it was a disservice man it's a disservice man it's a disservice I think I think that they should start making these episodes longer. Stranger Things did it right. I don't know. You don't think so? I love Stranger Things, but I almost would have rathered eight hour episodes as opposed
Starting point is 00:54:57 to seven. Some of them were like an hour and a half. Really? Yeah, I know, but I love, too. I love it. For me, I don't ever, I think you're more used to this because you have kids and a wife and you have to go do things. When I sit down to watch something, I watch the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Okay. So when something's an hour and a half, like you, it's like, committed into a movie. Yeah, yeah. I binge the whole thing. And I was just like, whoa, baby. I talked about this on my show the other day, too, though, that I think that Netflix, Netflix did this bin, and I can remember us talking about this on Collider Live.
Starting point is 00:55:26 And I don't remember where you stood on it at the time, but I can tell you that, and I think you posed a question, actually, but I, you asked, would you rather binge or would you rather watch weekly? And at the time, I'm 100% confident that I said I would, I want to binge. No matter what I've changed my tune dramatically. Yeah, well, as times, and you're allowed to, you know, that's the point they're supposed to keep up with the times. At that time, I had said, I like Hulu's model of drop three and then weekly.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like a few, and then I like... Disney Plus has been doing two and then weekly. And I think that that's good. I want more than one to start, but then please let me, don't give me seven episodes that are an hour and a half all at once because if I'm covering that, and not just if I'm covering that, I'm a fan of that, and I don't want it to get spoiled or anything, that is a big chunk of your life. And then I don't remember it in a year.
Starting point is 00:56:16 That's a year. Try it like a month. I know. And the thing is that it's it and Netflix though when they did that remember three years ago for streaming series minus you know, streaming series not not including cable. Netflix was the only game in town. It was it. That was it. So they could do house of cards and and and all these shows and jump them on Netflix and binge them all.
Starting point is 00:56:39 It's new black. Yeah. Dump them and put them all. Because everybody's talking about them. Everybody would binge him even if it was the course of a weekend, right? that they would do it. I remember a Collider. Like they would drop Stranger Things and people would watch them all and then we'd talk about it.
Starting point is 00:56:49 But now there is. Because there's so much content and people are watching deep water. But there's so much content on the different streaming platforms that it's the first time that Stranger Things has ever dropped that I, when I was, we were on set doing Shmo Down over the past weekend and I, and every single person I was talking to about Stranger Things, I didn't talk to you about it. But every single person I was talking to about Stranger Things was like, oh yeah, I'm on episode three. I'm on episode four. There had been nobody that I talked to, again, I didn't speak to Roxy, but there was nobody I talked to on that day that had watched the whole thing and binged it.
Starting point is 00:57:23 I think that Netflix, because everyone who I have heard talk about Stranger Things, loves it. Yeah, it's really good. Loves it. Have you heard what Netflix is thinking about? About the ads? Yeah, the ads and also possibly switching over to weekly.
Starting point is 00:57:40 They should. They're already doing it. Do you watch any of their nonscripts? stuff, either of you guys, like the circle or Lachshlined or any of that stuff. They, they, the way they do their episodes for a lot of it is they do four, they drop four episodes, then a week later they drop four more episodes and then a week later they drop their finale. And that seems to be a cool way for them to do it in little chunks. I still prefer a chunk and then weekly, but I would, but three different drops with chunks.
Starting point is 00:58:10 I'm good with that too. Just don't give me all of it at once. I'm too gluttoned. They could not with Stranger Things, though, because that's how they started it. That's how they started. But if they, but if they start, now, now when they, because I think the last, it's not a final season, but for this season, the last two episodes, just drop them and then whatever it is. Why are they doing it? I don't know why they're doing it.
Starting point is 00:58:30 But no idea. But what I would tell you is that for that show, because that show is so popular for the last season, look at the boys. Boys is this weekly. Holy shit, the boys is so good. Can one of you guys stack up and watch? I'm going, it's on my list to do. I promise you. The other thing, by the way, is like the offer.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Have you started watching the offer yet? No, no. So the offer's another one. It's good. I love it. And you know what's so funny about that show is that every single person I've been talking to about the offer. And I've been raving about it on this show, obviously, telling everyone about it.
Starting point is 00:58:59 And then I saw the critics, and it's like 46% or something, whatever, too. Every single person I've told about it that has watched it going, what the hell of the critics talking about? This is awesome. I told my brother about it. He watched it. Loved it. There's tons of people who had just started.
Starting point is 00:59:14 watching it who love it. And people have told about it on this show who said, yeah, I took your word for it and checked it out. Can't stop watching it. Now there's like seven episodes up on the on on on now. You can binge it. But it comes out weekly. My wife and I are like, that's the one show.
Starting point is 00:59:29 My wife and I just don't miss when it comes out. It drops on Thursdays. And I'm trying to get Dan Fogler on the show. He's in the UK right now. But I think that I'm going to get him on to talk about it. Yeah. It's it's really good. I mean, if you have Paramount Plus, you, I, you would really like it.
Starting point is 00:59:42 I honestly was deterred by the. the fact that I, you're the only person I know who said that they were watching it. And then I looked online and it does, it's getting slammed. By, by critics. Yeah, critics. Not by fans. Yeah. I'm telling you, people.
Starting point is 00:59:58 And I need to sack up. What's the audience score? I want to see what the audience score is on, on the offer. That's what I'm going to check out of now. You said to watch the offer. Roxy said to watch Severance. So naturally I watched Severance. That makes sense.
Starting point is 01:00:10 And you love it. I love it. She is the TV person. So, Oh, my God. I just don't have Paramount Plus either. I'm going to play this. I'm going to show.
Starting point is 01:00:18 I'm going to show. I'm going to play this. Well, yeah. I'm going to show the audience. Play it. Yeah, I'm going to play it. Play the tape. Roll the tape.
Starting point is 01:00:24 This is, to me, a legit audience score here. There you go. Check this out. You should go on your friends. Rotten Tomatoes is wrong. Wow. 50% for the critics. 96% for the audience.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Can you tell me why you think critics are hating it? I don't know if it's an accuracy thing. I don't really, I think that they said some of the things aren't accurate. I don't know. I don't really, let's see, let's see a couple of the reviews on what they say and how much I disagree with them. Some of the reviews, where is the audience? That's not the audience. This is the actual critics themselves.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Some of the things that they say, are there even any? I don't know. Maybe go up to see score details. Trying to find it, trying to figure out. Unplug it, plug it back in. Did you blow on it? I know. That's what she said.
Starting point is 01:01:16 All right. So where is? She was that broad. That broad. I don't know why. Is that it? Maybe one more shot. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Okay. So this is the... Those are all good ones. These are all the good ones. Here's the negative. Viewers would be better off watching the Godfather saga as it's better use of their time and it's far more entertaining the entire of the series. It's the least helpful thing ever, though.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Disagree. I mean, there's a full review in there, too. If the Godfather was masterful and precise, despite his famously Harold production, he offers amateurish and messer. because the way it uses surefire assets. Disagree. The offer certainly didn't have Coppola's blessing, and I hope this wasn't the reason behind his problematic portrayal,
Starting point is 01:01:52 is shown not as angsty new Hollywood artist, but as a comedian profan. Disagree. He absolutely does not come off as a comedian profan at all. At all. I think that Dan Fulagher is doing great. What is that Melanie one? I just see all capitals.
Starting point is 01:02:05 It deserves credit for elevating my overall esteem for the Godfather. At one point in my viewings of Copla's epic was, oh my God, who cares? Disagree. So I disagree with all of these people, every one of them. And what I would also say as far as the who cares part of it. You care. No, but yeah, but there's, but I know what she's going for there.
Starting point is 01:02:26 And that's these, there's a lot of side adventures that are happening throughout the show. It's a television show. If it was a movie, then I agree. It's like, come on, why are we going through? They set up all of these characters. Matthew Good, who I was, it's so funny. I've become more and more of a fan every time Matthew Good. When he first appeared, I think it was,
Starting point is 01:02:45 saw him in Watchman and didn't think he was great. And then there was this other movie. He was him and Nicole Kidman that people loved that Ellis, and I couldn't stand it. I can't even picture who you're talking about. Matthew, good. You'll recognize him when you see him. But he plays Bob Evans.
Starting point is 01:02:58 He is phenomenal in this show. Miles Teller is great in this show. Dan Fogler, one of the best things he's done in a while. So many great performances in this show. I love, absolutely. It's one of my favorite shows that I've seen in a while. I really enjoy watching it. I think that more people should check it out.
Starting point is 01:03:14 And I'm glad that it seems like I said, 96% of the audience. You know, you recognize him? Yeah. Yeah. So I actually think that last week you mentioned him, and I think I did that exact same thing. You probably do it again next week. So is there anything else that we need to, that we haven't discussed him? We talked about a lot.
Starting point is 01:03:30 We talked about Jurassic World, obviously. We talked about a top gun is destroying at the box office. Did you see it yet? I haven't, but I've heard a couple not so great reviews from idiots. From idiots. Yeah, I guess they're idiots. No, I just not. Not like, you know, and I think they may have been overhyped,
Starting point is 01:03:46 but I don't think I will fall in that now. You won't. Because it'll be the first thing I've seen in the theater. You better go. Go see it soon, man. For next week, you have to either start severance, the boys, or see everything everywhere all at once. One of those three things.
Starting point is 01:04:01 All right, that's fine. And I will do the offer. You'll do the offer. Okay, that's fair. That's fair. I watched the first episode of Pichenko last night. What's that? It's a show that everybody was talking about.
Starting point is 01:04:12 No. Who's everybody? Not everybody I know. You taught me that, actually. Oh. It's actually a very helpful life lesson that you taught me at one point. Did you, do you remember that? No, tell me. That you shouldn't say everybody when it's not everybody.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Well, you didn't listen to it too much because you just didn't. No, no, no. Because this really was like all the critics that I was talking to. I first heard about it from Wendy and then stuff. Just people who watch a lot of the Apple shows, but not everybody. I did listen to it. And I, it's just a little slow for me right now. Like, I need that fast.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Oh, I think I know. You know what I'm talking about. Pachenko, you know, the only reason I know what it is, because for some reason, and this is way before this show even came out, my daughter was calling my dog Pichenko. She was going, Pachenko. How come? Who knows? She calls them 75 different nicknames. So she was calling him Pichenko.
Starting point is 01:05:01 And one day there was a, like a newspaper that was put on, or a variety or whatever it was that was put on the doorstep. And it said Pachenko. And we started like, hey, Pachenko. And that's what it is. That's what it is. I have a Pachenko machine hanging. Is it about the gaming, like the gambling thing Pichenko? Or is it completely different?
Starting point is 01:05:20 I actually don't know if I could even answer that after the first episode. You don't know yet. It was really, really tough to, it's also subtitles or, no, I was watching it, but I was like, oh, there's a lot. It's four generations and people say it's great, so I want to try to stick with it. I'm switching to the offer. Yeah, I'm trying to think if there's anything else that we left out. We talked about, oh, Ms. Marvel.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Oh, I know what we left out? What we'd leave out? We left out the trailer. Oh, Black Adam? Yeah. All right, well, we can talk about it. It's so funny, you guys both jumped on to watch it. I said, I watched it.
Starting point is 01:05:52 I didn't need you guys to watch it. Oh. But it is fine. Well, you said it at the top of the show. Yeah, I just said I was watching it. What did you think about the trailer, Black Adam? That was good. We've been waiting.
Starting point is 01:06:01 You put together DC Movie News, Christian. You put that together in 2015? Yeah. Okay. At that point, the Rock was signed on. Yes. So I've been talking about this. for fucking seven years.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Long time. It's crazy. What'd you think about it, Brett? No, I mean, looks like a fun, fun little romp. Someone did say, though, it looks like the rock playing a superhero. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.
Starting point is 01:06:21 What do you expect? But I did think, and it's not that I'm any much deterred from seeing the movie after this, but like I did think he was going to be a bad guy throughout the whole thing, but he's definitely more of a hero who doesn't get, he more like Hancock. Is it a Hancock? Yeah. He's an anti-hero.
Starting point is 01:06:39 That's what it seems like. But I like the hero. trailer some people thought that it was a little goofy I don't know I liked it I'm curious to see it when it comes out but then the last thing is Marvel the way that I summed it up rocks for miss Marvel was when I saw the trailer I said this show looks like a it is geared for 12 to 18 year old girls and it looks like a Scott Pilgrim type of show with a really fun performance that doesn't necessarily seem aimed towards me but it could be fun to watch. And it's exactly what it was. It's exactly what it was. And it is, I enjoy, I think she is
Starting point is 01:07:16 incredible. She's a, she is so much fun. She is so likable. She's 19 years old. Is she really? She looks about 13 years ago. She does. And she was, she's so likable. It is a, it's a sweet show, but I can understand if it's, if somebody goes, well, this isn't necessarily for me. I would not recommend this to my friends. Right. I still really liked it. You recommend it to my 10. I would absolutely recommend it to your kid. Right. And that's okay, though. And be like, well, why can't?
Starting point is 01:07:43 I watch it. No one says you can't. You should absolutely watch it. If you watch, sir, if you watch a show that you, this is a very well made show. It's a fun show. It's just not, it's just not absolutely. It is geared towards kids that are, like preteens, teens. It's a great entry point to superheroes and Marvel.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Yeah. And people always, well, what about Spider-Man? Spider-Man was, was high. school teenager too it was done a little differently though too the way the spider man was also introduced in civil war was he was introduced as one of the Avengers kind of right away you know even though he was still a kid and they they said it in the high school area this is this is scaled down more for the for a high school you know preteen generation I don't even the younger like eight I don't know kids but I thought maybe I I I am going to watch this with my daughter because
Starting point is 01:08:35 she's never watched a single Marvel movie yet and we're We were planning on doing a whole Marvel watch, but I might even start her with it. Yeah, that would be a good. I might even start her with it. I mean, she doesn't necessarily need to be. She'll know who Ms. Marvel, Captain Marvel is eventually through the thing.
Starting point is 01:08:51 But like, they don't really, they don't require you to watch anything. Nothing. No. So, anyway. Did she finish Ozark? My daughter, she loved it. I'm so far behind.
Starting point is 01:09:04 I'm like, what have I seen lately? Oh, I finished Miss Maisel. And every time you said Miss Marzell, I'm like, Vivian liked Ozark. So it's pretty good. Yeah. I don't know how old kids are allowed to be to watch things. I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:09:15 No, of course she's too young to watch Ozzy. I don't know. I don't know. She's, you know, she is and she's actually laundering now. Yeah. She's doing great.
Starting point is 01:09:26 See, that's the problem is. My daughter's smart enough. She would probably start learning how to do it. Anyway, listen, it's a good show today. It's a fun show today. Great job, team. Good job. So go watch Deepwater.
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