The Kristian Harloff Show - Jurassic World: Dominion SPOILER DISSCUSSION

Episode Date: June 13, 2022

Jurassic World: Dominion is in theaters now. It is the sixth film in the franchise. The reviews have not been great. Chris Pratt, Laura Dern, Sam Neill, Jeff Goldblum & Bryce Dallas Howard all return ...in this film directed by Colin Trevorrow. All of the dinosaurs are back, kind of? The big question is after this movie, should this be the end of the franchise? Do we need another Jurassic Park film? If so, should they go a different route? These questions and more in this spoiler heavy episode of The Big Thing with Kristian Harloff, Coy Jandreau and Winston Marshall. Follow the crew on Twitter! Kristian Harloff https://twitter.com/KristianHarloff Coy Jandreau https://twitter.com/CoyJandreau Winston Marshall https://twitter.com/TheSwaggyBlerd Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh my goodness. This movie's not good. Oh, this movie's not good. Oh, this movie's not good. But is it as bad as everyone says it is. It's better than Fallen Kingdom. That's a review. I hope you enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:00:12 Thank you for joining us today on the show. No, I've covered this a few different times. I did the out of the theater reaction for Jurassic World, Domino. I was also doing it. That one got you. Damien. It's the French. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Dominole. It's the French cat. So then I also, there was that one. I did an episode of Big Thing last week, which again, if you haven't seen, you really blew it. You really blew it. It was a great episode with me and Roxy and Brett. And it was just that question, is it really that bad when we talked about that on the show?
Starting point is 00:00:46 I did a spoiler review on my lonesome. And now I'm going to do a spoiler discussion with the crew that watched all of these movies with me. When we're at the end of this episode, we're going to rank all of the Jurassic movies, because we've seen them all, Dressa Park, 123, Durasic World, one, two, three. Myself, Coy Winston, it is the big thing, it is the show. If you have not, subscribed on podcast form. I cannot emphasize enough.
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Starting point is 00:01:33 We got shirts up, too, by the way. If you want to show a little class, Sith Council, big thing, all of it. All right. We got the show. It's Jurassic World Damien. Here it comes. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to Ralph Biscuit Saves the World.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Part one. It's not true, but it should be. It be a hell of a series. starring Josh Brolin and live Tyler. Welcome back, guys. Hello. Domino.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Domino. I did change my shirt. Good for you. If you followed the story from last week, Christian who lives here was like, nay, we're doing one day. And I'm like, I'm a prep. Not necessary.
Starting point is 00:02:23 This thing's dope. I just sat in the same place for four days. And here we are. Just living your life. So this movie. Yes. It's a movie. I liked it more than the last two.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Sure. I give it. I liked it more. in world. I liked it more than... I didn't like it more than world, but I liked it better. I mean... But I also think I disliked world more than you guys. You could get up in this table. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:43 And take crap on that table. I handed to me in a box. I would like that box with your crap in it more than I would like Fallen Kingdom. That movie is a terrible... I know you would. The movie, it's... There's... As I was... We just talked about it before we went on air. If you talk to the World Girls, I mean, they think this is one of the worst movies
Starting point is 00:02:59 of all time. I don't... I don't feel that. I mean, it's got like a 32% on Rotten Tomatoes or something. That is warranted. Because for people who... who don't know and don't understand that what happens in Rotten Tomatoes, I don't think it was that bad to get out 7%. It doesn't mean that everyone is ranking it at the lowest score possible. What the Rotten Tomato score means is that,
Starting point is 00:03:21 so if you rank anything under a three out of a five for that movie, it is rotten. Most people, even if you say, well, you know, it's a high end of a 2.9, still rotten. Right. If you feel that it's a 0.0.0. still rotten. So that's all of those critics together who go, this is not great. And even those ones who go,
Starting point is 00:03:42 I hated it when those other ones that go, it was not good, but it wasn't terrible. Only 32 out of 100 people thought it was better than a 3. 32% well, 32% of that 100. So yeah, only 32% of that 100 people thought it was better than a 3. 32 out of 100 people,
Starting point is 00:03:57 32% out of the 100%. Yeah, but I'm saying for like math-wise. He's oversimplifying it. I know what you're saying because it could be, you're saying it was like 5% of viewers. Right. Yes. If there were a thousand reviewers, 32% of them thought it was over three.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yeah. That's how it works. A lot of people still aren't aware of that. Everyone still thinks, well, I thought it wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible. Yeah, like 75 doesn't equal C. No, it just means enough people thought it was under the ranking that it should be in order for it to be fresh. So, and I am in, I am in that, I am in that, the range. I'm not in the 32%.
Starting point is 00:04:29 I'm in the rotten range. Like, it's not a good movie, but it's not, but it's certainly better. than Fallen Kingdom. And the problem is, and we said this. Like, so Winston and I were lied to. We were lied to at this screening.
Starting point is 00:04:42 We went and, because we were both. I was like, about what? And you know exactly what I'm talking. Nothing, nothing against this poor gentleman who said it, but this man lied to our faces
Starting point is 00:04:51 and didn't realize he was lying to him. I told, because Christian was pretty quiet at this point. We're just like, the movie's going. And I'm like, well, don't say anything yet.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Don't say anything yet. So, so we were at, so we're at, so we're at, we're getting there, we're getting ready. We're,
Starting point is 00:05:04 We're prepping ourselves because we've been talking to three of us about how scared we are about watching this movie because it's a long movie. Yeah. Now, the good news is that we were told in a lot of reports that this movie was like 240. We were told it was 240. The good news, it's not 240. The bad news is it's still close about two and a half hours. Yeah. So we were getting ready to watch the movie.
Starting point is 00:05:28 And a nice gentleman comes out. He's like, I'm with the piracy thing. We just like make sure all phones are off. And so everybody knows, you just keep your phones off. The movies around two hours and five, two hours and ten minutes. And so Winston, I look at it. Well, hey. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Maybe they made some cuts in the last week. So he leans over to me. At one point, he goes, I think that guy was wrong. He goes, because I think we have a lot more. I go, Chris, it's been like two hours of five, ten minutes and this is not the end. We're not in the wrap up. And you remember what I said to you? I go, no chance.
Starting point is 00:06:02 No chance. No chance. This movie's almost over. And it still had about another 15 or 20 minutes left. And we were at the, we were at like the 205 mark. So it's too long. Yeah. Because the problem is there's no, it's like the Batman, I'll sit there and all have that
Starting point is 00:06:16 conversation with you and probably understand where you're coming from. We have that conversation. When you say it's because Winston and I for the Batman thought there's just a couple shots that go on a little long. But the overall dialogue and story and commitment to story, I understand why you put so much time to it. I understand why it starts to tack on those minutes because it's a pretty involved story. There's no need for this movie to be two and a half hours. There's no story. It's such a convoluted mess. And like there's no reason to add this is spoiler, right? Yeah, the whole thing is for it. There's no reason to add locust to a dinosaur.
Starting point is 00:06:51 No, it's all. Those same things could have been the dinosaurs instead of like some very big biblical allegory. But what I will tell you about that is that I was so nervous because I had heard I was all locusts. I heard it was like, I'm wondering if there's another kind. because I heard the same thing. Yeah, it wasn't because I saw, so this is, this funny, because a friend of mine, I saw him at,
Starting point is 00:07:10 at celebration. And so he had seen, he had seen the movie, Jurassic World Dominio, and I was talking to him, and he was telling me, he's like, he's like,
Starting point is 00:07:19 I wanted it to be good. He was, it's not good. It's bad. And it's really not even about dinosaurs. It's about these silly locust. I'm like, oh no.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And then I saw him when we went to our screening, he was online again. I go, why are you doing this to yourself? And he's a, he's a really good critic. And he's like, if I have an opportunity to see it before my review comes out twice, from my own thoughts to watch it again, maybe I catch something else.
Starting point is 00:07:40 And he wrote back, he's like, nope, still terrible. But I was, I was from his review and other people's review, I was terrified it was just all going to be about the locust. Same. It wasn't. It is a very silly subplot that did not need to be. If you cut those 20 minutes, I like this movie even like maybe a half letter grade more. Like it's enough more that it's like, lets the runtime's better.
Starting point is 00:08:00 It's smoother. It's more logical. and you could do that metaphor with dinosaurs. I just, I think my, my issue with it is that, like, we've always had a little bit of a struggle with what the, the kind of main antagonist is to these films. You sort of get it in the first one, because you got some interference of someone doing some corporate espionage,
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Starting point is 00:08:58 It's like now you're dealing with a dude that's like going full Elon Musk and he's like trying to control the world's food supply with locust. And it's just, there's too much going on. And that dude's supposed to be Dodson from the first Jurassic Park.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Which is a which I didn't know until you brought that up on. The barbersol can. Yeah, which when they brought that up with the barbersol can's like, how did he get it? He literally was. He was the guy. And that's insane.
Starting point is 00:09:20 But they don't even, they don't, they should have brought mention to that. Yeah. My meaning with so and so in the first. Oh, okay. That's what he's supposed to be. That's too shallow of a connection.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah. And then all, I mean, the legacy characters, even when the legacy characters met up with the new characters, it didn't have any emotional impact. The problem is that there's no magic in this movie. Yeah, it doesn't feel like that Amble and it doesn't feel special. It doesn't feel special. And again, when you look at that piece of crap, the Fallen Kingdom movie, someone that said to me the day, you know that Colin Chivarro didn't direct the second. I must have said a million times over how much of a
Starting point is 00:09:51 fan of Jay Bill was. I'm very aware that he didn't direct it. What I'm saying is that the direction in this movie is better. And if you compare them as directors overall, I think J.A. Bayona is the better director. However, I do think that both of Travaro's movies, this one included, is better than the last one. Sure. Now, he probably had a lot of direction or notes from producers,
Starting point is 00:10:16 probably Travaro included on what they wanted to make it. Because Travaro continues on the same type of stuff that Biona was doing. because Biona's movie starts with the traditional Jurassic World, Jurassic Park 3, all that stuff of things we've seen before, but they have to escape the island this time. And then it turns into this B movie, expensive, B movie science fiction monster film. Sure.
Starting point is 00:10:41 With cloning, right? Yeah. This is the same. It just happens, even though it's so convoluted and there's a lot of crap going on. I followed this and cared more. Like I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't bored. Yeah, and I didn't do this. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Yeah, whereas in that one I often was like, I did for the very end. And I did because all of a sudden it's like, we're just got to learn to live with them. And they're like, the whales are chilling with the giant dinosaur whale. And like, that's not how this would work. Dude, that happens the whole movie. The whole movie, they're like, there's a bird.
Starting point is 00:11:13 But the whole movie, the dinosaurs go like this. We used to be scary and eat people. But now we're not going to eat you today. Dude, dude. To be like there's only 37 dinosaur-related deaths a year. I don't believe that. That number is as dumb as the bidding scene in the last film, where they're like a dinosaur,
Starting point is 00:11:28 two million bucks, two million bucks. I'm like, you can get a Lamborghini or a dinosaur, you're getting a Lamborghini. If you have to make an entire system to keep the pteradactals out of your little nesting or whatever, more than 37 people.
Starting point is 00:11:38 What makes you think that they're not out here taking planes out of the sky? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And that's the movie I wanted. And that's the movie we kept talking about throughout this world is we wanted Jurassic World. I feel like the scene with the T-Rex in San Diego is more Jurassic World than any Jurassic World.
Starting point is 00:11:52 You know the other thing that kind of pissed me off, a little bit. I was really looking forward to someone losing a hand with this. Hey, whoa there, buddy. I was just waiting for somebody to lose a hand. That's the worst he got was a scratch and that's because she's pissed her daughter's gone. Right. But other than that, you're telling me, now all of a sudden, now clone girls doing it and everybody's doing it. Everybody's throwing a hand up.
Starting point is 00:12:12 It has one obvious answer. Spielberg and Lucas are friends. They have the force. It's obvious. They're controlling them with the force. They're forced mind wiping the dinosaurs. Chris Pratt is a Jedi and Sam Neal is his master. But he says, it, Goldblum, if it says it, he goes, you're talking to a dinosaur. Like, it's like, oh, Goldblum was our eyeline. Goldblum was describing how impossible that plot was. On your shoulder.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Dinosaur? He doesn't, he doesn't. I love his, how he pronounces dinosaurs so much. I think the reason I gave this movie, like, a slight, I think this is the third. We'll rank them, but I think I like this one the most of the worlds because it got Goldblum saying dinosaur a lot. One three, two. Well, wait, just wait.
Starting point is 00:12:49 We'll do it at the end. Come on. But like, of the worlds, I enjoyed this one of the most of the worlds, because it, brought back the OGs. I didn't feel the magic of having them back as much as I should have, but they were still back. Well, there's a lot. I mean, even with the two of them when they set it up and even their relationship where
Starting point is 00:13:02 they're finally getting together, it's like, I didn't care. I loved, I loved seeing it. Yeah. But I didn't feel it as much as I wanted. Yeah. I saw it didn't feel it. Yeah. So mentally I'm like, nice.
Starting point is 00:13:12 I'm like, that's what I want and I'm glad I see it, but I, it wasn't earned. I want it here. Yeah, it wasn't earned. It's like, even like, I thought the girl who you gave a lot of crap for in the last movie, I think she was pretty good in this one. The girl plays Maisie. Oh yeah, she got way better. And I think that she had more to do.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Same actress. Yeah, same actress. And I think she had more to do. I think the character had more to do. I didn't mind the cloning aspect as much, although it's sort of, how many times is Bedi Wong going to say? If I just had the DNA. How many times are getting a chance? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:13:41 But how many times is he going to say that line? Yeah. He said it like six times. He said that as many times as Riva interrogated Leah in the last episode. He was like, he, he, he kept, he kept. He kept walking in and he kept saying, if I just had the DNA from your mom, I could change the world or I could change the locust.
Starting point is 00:13:59 I can do that. We get it. What are you doing now? Well, if I just had the DNA from your mom, I kept seeing this, is like the end of the end of the moment. Speaking of which. I will say that every scene.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Butam, butam, but um, wow. You know what? I'm out here. What? Making sure that.
Starting point is 00:14:16 What? Every time I come out and see Laura Dern. What? That she's playing attention to locust. What? And I'm going to come back? What? And even though I'm going to get my neck chomp by the new dinosaur,
Starting point is 00:14:25 I'm going to team up with the new dinosaur, and I'm going to take that some bitch down because that's what T-Rex says, and I can't remember the rest of the line. That's what you were doing. I was trying to figure out what was going on. That's why I was pulling it, yeah. This is the part of the show where I was a spectator. I lean back.
Starting point is 00:14:45 I appreciate it like the viewers do. I have my own show. We showed Andrew Guy that, he's like, Christian, do you have too much time? I'm like, yeah, that's what this show is. Too much time on my end. Well, this is the time I need to decompress from the rest of the chaos, and we just film it for others.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Like, this is the same thing we'd all be doing in the back of the Schmodeown. We're just putting it on camera for people. And we're making sure that before we finished, Coy can make his bowling match. I am. Actually, this would be a dope bowling show. That said, I do think that every scene that Jeff Goldblum didn't steal, DeWanda Weiss did.
Starting point is 00:15:17 She was great. I want her to be like so many characters now. I want to see her in a lot. She was great. And I didn't know her worked. I was so impressed. Neither did I. And I think I actually said, she's the pilot.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Yes. And I actually said to Winston at one point, her character has an arc. It has an arc. But her character, to me, had more of what I think we were looking for from Riva than what they wrote in. I didn't even put that together. When you look at what she does in the way she's introed and the way that she's, like, it's kind of, it's more subtle. I think that, unfortunately for her and this is the whole movie suffers from this, just bad dialogue. and there's really nowhere else to go with her,
Starting point is 00:15:53 but she was fantastic. And I thought, like, she had more, like, of a subtle thing about her and this edge about her that I believed right away, and she wasn't, like, over cooking it. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Right. And it's, and I thought that there was something about her that I really, she did, she did pop. I thought she was one of the standouts. She, to me was what I wanted Chris Pratt
Starting point is 00:16:10 to be in the first one. Like, she had, like, a history. She's got some legacy. She can handle dinosaurs, but I believe it. All of that felt more authentic than Chris Pratt being like,
Starting point is 00:16:17 I got a vest. And I love that made that joke in the movie. Like I really love, they're like, oh, you put a vast tiny thing, you can wrangle dinosaurs. I'm like, that's the character. You know what? And so this just made me realize more so the way that they said, by the way, that movie scene, the movie theater scene, not even in the movie. No, there's so many scenes.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And all the, you know, remember the whole trailer? Remember the trailer about the, the, when the T-Rex comes out and the little kids looking about the movie? It's not even in there. And then they're chasing them through, chasing the dinosaur through, like, in the helicopter. To this day, the short that Travara made about Jurassic World is the second best Jurassic thing since Jurassic 1. And that's in the, that's in the movie for like a split second.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Opening credits. It's like, is it? It's like, yeah, well, as they're talking. Yeah, it's when the, the woman who's doing the reporting about everything about the, I think it's in the first, exposition, exposition scene. Yeah. When, when that's going on, they show a little bit of it. But it just made me realize even more so, and I stand by it, that they should have went
Starting point is 00:17:10 the planet of the apes thing with this. We thought they were when the from the first trailer. And from the first, from the Jurassic World One. Yeah. They may get seen like they're going to go that route. because instead of this convoluted science fiction, locust corruption nonsense that they've done a million times over. The dinosaurs are enough of a threat, man.
Starting point is 00:17:27 I don't understand why they... They're not a threat in this movie at all, by it. I don't understand why it's just living there. Why doesn't Universal think that dinosaurs are scary? No. What's wild is you got time to go be on an archaeological dig when I'm sure there's a T-Rex stomping through New York City that doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:17:41 It does, like there's so many logical fallacies in this movie. The whole thing. One of the few things that I told Christian this when we were watching it, this might be the best, convincing of getting one of these characters to go deal with some Jurassic crap by getting Neil to be like, look, like this is kind of what's going on.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Yeah. Can you, like that was the first time. In the first movie, he holds up the claw and throws it because he's like there's real raptors. Right. Six or five movies later, he's back there. He's back there.
Starting point is 00:18:09 And a dig. And he just leaves the dig once he gets his old flame back or a wannabe flame. But the thing is, imagine this though. Imagine like taking our legacy characters. with the new characters, and the thing is when you open up, you're in this almost post-apocalyptic world
Starting point is 00:18:24 or whatever, not post-pocalyptic, but the fact that the dinosaurs now, as Jeff Goldblum warned in the first movie, that eventually they're going to take over if you mess with it, and they're starting to take over it. And you want to have a message, the planet would probably, with all of us and dinosaurs taken over,
Starting point is 00:18:42 would probably be more green, right? And would probably start to have a more of a thing. But humans have to kind of find a way in this almost like walking dead way to survive. Symbiosis. Like land of the loss and all great. And imagine like at one point there's some kind of threat and whether there's still planes and there's still certain things are trying to get from one place to another.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Maybe there's like a couple civilized places still left where they can keep the dinosaurs. We've got hubs. Hubs and stuff. And then what happens is whether you want to use the Maisie girl or whatever it is to get trapped inside of this, the same way you do in a Jurassic Park movie. But at the same time, Laura Dern is maybe with Chris Pratt and those people. Sam Neal is with Bryce Dallas Howard. So you gotta get to each other.
Starting point is 00:19:21 And then they get to each other. Mad Max Jurassic Road. And they have to go through this entire world. But yeah, 100, but you're not, but you're right, 100%.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And you start to set this whole new thing in place with the legacy characters and how they have to survive and how Goldman has survived. And like, it's a breakdown of society inside of this new Jurassic world. And we saw how cool.
Starting point is 00:19:41 The Malta scene is that. We saw how cool that would be. We saw the Raptors. Jeff Goldblum actually shits on this movie. In the franchise. He says, He goes, I don't like Jurassic World. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:50 It's like, neither do we, Jeff. We're here, Jeff. You do it. Thank you. Well, there's so many, like, that would have been so cool to see that happen. You've even put it in the naming scheme of the films. Yeah. That this is where, that it's a Jurassic World.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Yeah. That it is a fallen kingdom. I'm assuming it's the humans have lost the kingdom. And now it's the dominion of the dinosaurs. None of that happens. No, it turns into silly science fiction monster movie. The kingdom didn't fall. No.
Starting point is 00:20:15 The volcano blew up. And then there was no dominion. And they're dinosaurs are all our friends now. We're in Donatopia. Every one of those taradactals that are flying with those birds would turn and eat every one of those birds. And it's like, it's like, dude,
Starting point is 00:20:27 they would be taking over again. They were the dominant species for, for years. If they do more of these, we need to give it 10 years. We get this taste out of her mouth. And go that way. And go play into the apes and call it like Cretaceous continent.
Starting point is 00:20:37 And look, I've met Colin Javaro many times over. Nice guy. Sweetheart of a guy, you got to get this out of his hands. Yeah. He's making, he's making these. He's too sweet.
Starting point is 00:20:47 But look at the. Top Gun model, man. Yes. You can go and you can put, you don't have to just cotton candy popcorn. We want integrity. Yes, we want it. You take and you build up, give me more stories like, oh yeah, what about your, what about your, the second, and it's so predictable.
Starting point is 00:21:02 What about your husband? It's over now. Okay, so that means you guys are going to get together. Yeah. The second that's set up. Sam Neal's like, got it in. That's such cool writing. That's it.
Starting point is 00:21:10 You know, if you're going to, if you're going to do that, I would, I know you're, and you got to pay another actor to come in, but you could have done it through text messages. You could have done it through, like mysterious phone calls, make it that their marriage is on the rocks. And now that they're, because they're in the middle of a divorce, any of those things. You know what I'm saying? And then,
Starting point is 00:21:26 and have that kind of set up in that particular way. I did want to ultimately see them get back together. Yeah, of course. Who wasn't rooting for that? But I liked that there was some like dinosaur smuggling. I liked that world, but we should have seen more of the ramifications of the dinosaurs on the macro, not just the micro.
Starting point is 00:21:41 But it was only the micro. Yes, but even the smuggling part. Didn't that play like a Star Wars canteen scene? 100%. I like that. But the thing was, I liked it because it made me think, because it made me think of, okay, that's what Chavaro would have done with Star Wars, which could have been interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:56 But it turned more into like this kind of silly movie thing as opposed to the first movie, the book, had horror elements to it and scary elements to it. That's all gone now. Right. And like, because, and even like little things where Bryce Dallas Howard is hitting dinosaurs in the head with pipes, Chris Pratch choking dinosaurs out. That was so. When he grabbed the Dolavasaurus by the neck
Starting point is 00:22:19 To choke it out I guarantee It's not an Avengers movie Dude you are not star lord You will not have the powers of a celestial You cannot choke out a dinosaur Right and it's like he comes up How cool it would be and he chokes out the dinosaurs
Starting point is 00:22:32 Like no the dinosaur would eat his hand It was cool to see the Dolavsaurus is back And I love the new dinosaurs The sloth based dinosaurs is real Yeah The Lovsaurus is the spitter But the sloth based dinosaur is real thing And that's the claws
Starting point is 00:22:44 Yeah that's a real thing that existed And I think they think it's a herbivore, which is why they, like, didn't show it eating people, but it used those for defense. So, like, that thing, I've been terrified up since I was a kid, it was dope. But the other thing that that didn't make sense to me, if you're talking about the smuggling scene, I'm going to tell you right now, there's no way that Bryce Owess Howard in real life is out-parkoring a raptor.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Nope. Not in the straightaway. There's not, if there was a bunch of little random corners and maybe there's a situation when you could throw the raptor off because it's moving with too much momentum. You are not out running it on a roof. You were not Jason Bourne. and born. Jurassic Park 1, that raptor scene is the precedent of their speed and power.
Starting point is 00:23:20 How is she suddenly? Also, I like Bryce Dallas Howard as a director, as an actress. I think she would not have been able to smoothly integrate into a smuggler rig. Right. Bryce Dallas Howard is so like, you know what I mean? She's like Apple Pie. Yeah, America. She's like, girl next door.
Starting point is 00:23:36 But it doesn't work. And it also doesn't work. The whole, it's all of this, which is, it turns into this stupid James Bond villain thing where they take, they take the. they take the girl, which I like the poacher scene and all that stuff. Again, you could have played that
Starting point is 00:23:51 in a little bit more like a deliverance side if it was this draft, if it was this planet of the age thing. The middle of nowhere, yeah. Yeah, where it was like this kind of creepy guys who were trying to make their way through
Starting point is 00:23:59 and they have to, whatever, they can play fantasy booking all day long. But then what actually happens in the movie, they, and a smart move that was made by the villains, finally, they separated the dinosaur
Starting point is 00:24:12 and they separated the girl on two different planes. I thought that was a great move, and made me think that finally one of these villains has some brains. However, that girl, or that woman is wearing this ridiculous outfit. Oh, it was like a Bond villain. And then she's laying there like. She's sitting here, shoot the, yeah, she's standing in there like that with the lasers doing the layers.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I turned into a Bond movie. And then, and then talk about Bryce Dallas Howard. And then Bryce Dallas Howard just happens to be able to fight her. I was just saying she's talking about a fight against those. What? When did she learn those skills? No. I get what they're trying to apply.
Starting point is 00:24:45 And she disappears, by the way. That Bond Dylan disappears. We never see her again. The girl from Severance doesn't show up again. Is that what she's wrong? Yeah, she's great. I just like, it's one of those situations where it's like,
Starting point is 00:24:53 if you had shown us that maybe because she's been breaking out dinosaurs from illegal breeding plants, that she's literally become a mercenary now, that would be one thing. But that one little scene of we broke out a sick to triceratops, that does not make me think now she all of a sudden. She's not a mercenary. That's not how that works.
Starting point is 00:25:10 It was cool to see those two characters back. I was surprised that I was like, because that, which was. The Asian actress and Justin's Justice Smith? He was from the first movie. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Or the second one, the second one.
Starting point is 00:25:20 He was in fault because the first one was Jake Johnson. The second one was Justice Smith. Oh, Justice Smith. Justice Smith was so much better in this. Way better in this movie. And I really like that actress too. I don't know our name. No, the black dude was from the first one, like the cop.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm talking about the Asian doctor, the veterinarian. They were both way better in this movie. Way better. And it was actually missed to see them. I agree. When I first saw them, I went, because it was when they started that scene with them and they rescued the T-Rex.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And I turned to Winson, I said, they're acting as if people really like Fallen Kingdom. They're bringing all these characters. Yeah. And, but they redeemed them. A million percent. And again, that's another reason I like this one better than the last two because it didn't invent dinosaurs and it redeemed characters that were irredeemable somehow. Justice Smith in this one was, and I will go back.
Starting point is 00:26:12 because he's not in dope, by the way. He's in a movie called Broken Flowers. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the one that I thought of him from. But either way, he was so good in this because of the job that gave him also. And I love that idea where he was working for the CIA or whatever the hell he was working for. And he says to them, and he has a great moment that also plays into, I did buy Bryce Dallas Howard and Pratt as like her parents and guardians. Yeah, I like that.
Starting point is 00:26:36 He's like, you guys are good parents or whatever the hell you are. And he didn't, I think, and again, I think this is Biona. versus Trevaro. I think Bayona directed Justice Smith in a way to go like, I want you to be like frantic and big and wacky. Because everything he did in that last movie, he's like, yeah. And it was, and this, he's like,
Starting point is 00:26:54 he's just, he's a normal guy, yeah. I think there's two things also at play. I think it probably is that direction. But remember, this is around the time when he also does Detective Pikachu. It's a very similar role. He has a little bit of seriousness in it, but for the most part, carried it over, maybe. And I think it is a, maybe. He is matured as an actor, in my
Starting point is 00:27:10 opinion and the directors let him do that and I think they also wrote him to grow up because remember he goes guys this isn't helpful anymore no maybe doing yeah no no I agree but I think there was something about because it's funny because I do like Justice Smith a lot but I was I grown when I saw him when he came into the movie I'm like oh no they're just going to do the same thing but by the end not even by the end but the second like after that first scene yeah and when they're fixing him fixing him because I remember thinking as I'm watching the same like he played that at a much better level to where he's likable and then when they see him again. But he's another one. You never
Starting point is 00:27:42 seen him ever again. So this movie like it definitely isn't good. But I do think in the past fail, like if it's literally like a black and white pass fail, it did pass for me personally. Because I got new dinosaurs. I got characters I love. I had some great action set pieces. It wasn't smart. It wasn't Jurassic Park.
Starting point is 00:27:59 But I did get characters getting redemption arcs and I did have a story that at least moved. And the Malta sequence I think is like one of my favorite Jurassic Park sequences. But the old, but the only thing that I think I audibly laughed out loud, but I was enjoying even though it was ridiculous, is
Starting point is 00:28:15 Goldblum, is Malcolm trying to open the gate? Let me try my wife's birthday. Just pure Goldblum. And then he thinks so, oh, I got it. No, you did. But that was the opposite of the Goldblum we got in the last movie where he was like,
Starting point is 00:28:30 I'm just Jeff Goldblum on set reading from a teleprompter. Like, what a weird thing? He was still Goldblum and this, but he was more like quirky goldblum. Yes, it was back to Goldblum. He was Josh Roberts Hospital. He goes, he goes, okay.
Starting point is 00:28:43 He's like, no, he's like, oh, okay, I won't. That was, those were moments that I love. But they were some. DeWanda Weiss was great. Pratt was a little better. I think overall the dinosaurs more and more interesting. Not that they were peaceful, but like their interactions were interesting. Like, I hate when the T-Rex keeps teaming up with other dinosaurs that are raptor base to kill the villain.
Starting point is 00:29:03 I hate that. They do it in every movie for some reason. But when we had the raptors, they were predators that were track hunters in the multisans. in the Maltes when we had the compies they acted like they should. We had dinosaurs acting like they'd been already
Starting point is 00:29:16 at peace for a hundred years which was dumb, but what they were doing felt like their right modus operandi, which I liked. Now that you've, now that I thought about this,
Starting point is 00:29:26 the fact that you're saying that that that character, the guy that was the Elon Musk character or whatever is the same dude that gave Wayne way more interesting. Gave him the barbersol can. Did you then connect the dots
Starting point is 00:29:37 that he died the same way that Wayne Knight did? And that he died from the, what is the dilaposaurs? Yeah, Dilaposaurs. Okay. So it makes more sense. Yeah. It's karma.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Yeah, it's true. And there's moments like that that I was like, okay, this is like a C-plus. Like, I'm, it's a time I'm having at the movie. It hasn't failed. That's what it is. A poor Spider-Man's dad. Yeah, Spider-Man's dad just getting murked in the face. Yeah, you feel bad for Spider-Man's dad.
Starting point is 00:29:57 He never, you never really got to come back. Although in the deleted scene, he did come back. Oh, yeah, he comes back at the end. He talks to Peter Parker. Who loves dinosaurs? No, Campbell Scott? No. In Amazing Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Is that the same actor? Campbell Scott. He just played a big, like, what? Yeah. He was playing that musk big. Yeah, but the good news is a lot of these dinosaurs, they seem like they're drinking athletic greens. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:30:17 And I will tell you that for what I've told you guys many times over, I'm so happy to athletic greens back. I have packets of athletic greens. I've been using a lot of athletic greens. I love it. And what's so great about athletic greens in general is that it gives you that boost energy that you need. And I've been using it for a while now.
Starting point is 00:30:35 They've been with us. I was going through our, how long we've been with them now. It's, it's been a while since like the beginning of the year. And, man, I'm so glad that we are with them and that they were with us. Because Brett Sheridan was the first person telling me, he's like, yeah, man, you got to make sure you check out athletic greens. Don't let it go to waste. And I have not. I have been using it all the time.
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Starting point is 00:32:50 They are worth it. Have you guys tried it yet? I did. Yeah, I actually like some flavor more unexpected. Right? Yeah, because I've had, I mean, in nutrition, not always the best move. But it actually has a strong. Especially when it looks uber green like that.
Starting point is 00:33:00 You're thinking grass. And you get that like weedy, like that next. This is tropical and like delightful. It's almost effervescent. It's really good. It's really good. I like the way it made me felt. Yes, self.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Feel. Yeah, it's true. I was about to say felt. And then I was going to say feel. It's like a Jurassic World writer over there. Just making up things. Just going off the cuff. Hey, so what if we have the dinosaurs,
Starting point is 00:33:20 feels good? This is how I felt on the day. When I took it, I felt great. It feels good. So I liked it more than I think the average, but I think my bar was just, I skipped Jurassic World 2 because of how much I didn't like Jurassic World One.
Starting point is 00:33:34 So I was coming from a place of I love this franchise, love this franchise, I've been betrayed, I'm skipping it, oh God, it was worse than I imagined. So I like didn't get kicked in the nuts so I was happy. Like, and I got slapped in the face. I'm, I understand everything that you're saying. Yeah. Because like when I, as I did not, and I said it, and this is not a ringing endorsement for the film at any,
Starting point is 00:33:51 at any stretch of the imagination, but I walked out going, I didn't hate watching that movie. Like, I don't think it's a good movie, but I didn't hate watching it. Yeah. And like, and this is, and this is not, I hate, I want to bring this. this conversation again, Roxy brought it up. And she said, if you had to watch this or The Last Jedi again, what would you watch? And I would watch this. Wow, I know you're on The Last Jedi.
Starting point is 00:34:13 But there's a difference. There's a difference. So if you're going to ask me what I think the better film is, of course it's Last Jedi. Fair. Do I think that there's a, what has better writing? What is a better crafted film? What is a better overall directed, written, acted film? The Last Jedi.
Starting point is 00:34:26 What makes you less angry? What? It's not angry. It's not angry. It's a frustration. It's a frustration. of what, of knowing of no plans and knowing of inconsistencies and all that. That's different than knowing that this is just not, like if we had to rewatch this series again and watch it again, like when we, if we were like, okay, there's a new Jurassic Park.
Starting point is 00:34:47 We're going to rewatch them all again. I kept warning you guys about Fall and Kingdom. I kept warning. Yeah. I wouldn't warn people this way. If I was, if I was doing a rewatch series of people who would never see it, I go, here's the thing. First one, don't mind Jurassic World. The second one is atrocious.
Starting point is 00:35:03 If that was fine, it's not good. Yeah. But you won't mind watching. It's just kind of mindless nonsense. And that shouldn't be a movie at this budget. We're not forgetting a thing. It should be great. But we're acknowledging.
Starting point is 00:35:13 You had opportunity to make it great. That's what makes me sad is that again, you're right. It's a fine of enough movie. It's a fine of enough summer blockbuster to sit down and want. If it popped up on TNT like five years from now. You'll watch. And I have nothing else on. I would watch.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Oh, I like this scene. I'll watch that part. But this is not one that. that unless I'm getting a free copy, I'm not going to go buy the blue ray. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm not actively seeking this out other than because I have to.
Starting point is 00:35:39 And there is a disappointment with the potential of what they could have went with, especially the fact that it was teased on planet of the apes. It was teased so well. Again, beyond what you did with the storyline to be like, you just let dinosaurs loose on the physical world.
Starting point is 00:35:53 You started this trilogy by naming it Jurassic World. So screw a theme, but when they're like, we just made a bigger theme park. I was like, this already is a problem. Yeah. But if you're going to, if this is what you're doing, that they're going to escape and maybe that's what this was beginning to do,
Starting point is 00:36:09 I'll give it to you. No, Volcano Island horror movie. That's what we're going to do. And then the third one, we're going to do it, but we're going to skip ahead 100 years and everything's all copacetic. But the humans are the humans you already know. Yeah. Because it was like the dinosaurs had already been on the planet for 100 years.
Starting point is 00:36:21 It was like generations of humans and dinosaurs had learned to coexist. But even some of the silly technology, like, oh, we have, they have all this technology. Oh, yeah, there's a signal where the dinosaurs aren't going to bother you. How? When did they put that in their hands? Is it just the adults that run the camp?
Starting point is 00:36:36 Does Tony Stark work for you guys? Yeah. It's like, how's that going? But also, if you're going to do that, then explain. Planes don't fall out of the sky because we've actually equipped them with a signal that wards off to her and show me something. And another scene speaking of which, so this is, why would they have Bryce Dallas Howard flip out of that plane and land by herself when they were going to try to,
Starting point is 00:37:00 make an impact on their own. They did a lot better than she did. Oh, yeah. They crashed and just got out and they had to like hop out. They had to run on the ice. Because they wanted to put a GoPro in Rice Dallas Howard's face. And I have, this is the first movie I've ever seen where any character falls through the ice
Starting point is 00:37:15 and doesn't go under the ice immediately and have to go through. Yeah. That would have been more dramatic. And it would be what happened. Right. And instead he goes, oh, pop right back up. Oh, the hole. Cool.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Also, adrenaline or gnaw. He doesn't instantly start. suffering from hypothermia. He was in that water for a while. 10 seconds is all you need to drop your body core. Yeah. And he's fighting. He's fine.
Starting point is 00:37:40 He's running around again. That's what I mean they just abandoned logic. Yeah. Very quickly. I know why they shot her out because they only had the one parachute. They didn't think they were going to survive the plane crash. So that was. No, but what I'm saying though is be ultimately, though, I know the reasoning behind it.
Starting point is 00:37:54 But ultimately, they did a lot better than she did. She's hanging in the tree. She's fighting dinosaurs. Her slow crawling. All the way from the one that's like looking for it. There's nothing in the water. There's nothing in the water. That's what I thought.
Starting point is 00:38:04 I kept thinking something in that water's going to fire up. There's no chance I go in that water. No. Because then you can't see. Like you don't know what's under. No chance you go in that water. It's a great tense scene, but they could have doubled down
Starting point is 00:38:14 by having something else in the water. Yeah, it was all, it was just, it was a very, it's a very silly movie. I mean, I've discovered DeWanda Weiss though,
Starting point is 00:38:20 now on to follow her career because she was badass. Like I liked all of her sequences. Really liked her a lot. She handled really bad dialogue well, which is very hard to do. She was immediately endearing, which is really hard
Starting point is 00:38:29 with a cast of legacy characters and new trilogy characters. Like in the fast five of things, you know, Galgadoo stood out. Like, because she was our new one with the old one.
Starting point is 00:38:37 I had a similar thing with her. She was trying, though, too, because she was given a lot of bad dialogue also because like some of the stuff she was saying even where like, um, I mean,
Starting point is 00:38:45 like, what was it? Even the redhead line. Like, they wanted to let you know that she like, she liked women. Yeah. So,
Starting point is 00:38:50 but in order to do it. I get it. I like redhead too. I like redheads, redheads too. I'm all four. Great. She is who she is.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Let's give her a little bit more of a line. An actual, yeah, I like redheads too. By the way, I like women. It's like, it's like,
Starting point is 00:39:07 find me a different way, let her have a relationship. What did she say that to? Was that to Goldblum? Oh, it's the Pratt. She's like, it's like,
Starting point is 00:39:14 it's letting her know and then it's letting the audience know that she likes women. But it's like, you could have done that with another woman. What would have been so much funny if you're going to do that line? Instead of doing it to Pratt,
Starting point is 00:39:22 the minute of Goldblum goes, oh, you can go, Or you could just go, she's already spoken for, I tried. Something like that, something little. Or you're not my type. Oh, well, who's your type? And he looks over.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Oh, okay. And then we know. And then we know. And it's like, it's like, that was so like, that was so like, over the head. And it's like, let her have a moment. Let her have a moment. And that's like, just like, just let you know.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Like, that's who she is also. It's like, okay. But like, that's going to come on. It was kind of, the fact that she buys a new plane and she just names it to, like, she's the same thing. The same thing with the two? Like, I thought that was stupid. She tried. And then there were a couple different lines that they gave her.
Starting point is 00:40:01 And you could see her, she committed 150%. But it was just such piss poor dialogue and action. It's like, yeah, it's a really, it's just not a good movie. It really isn't. All right. You guys want to rank this? Let's rank them. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:13 So if, and what I'm going to do here, we'll do it. I'm going to bring out some, some pictures. And we'll do, how much, before I even do this, how much do we think? we think that this movie is going to make opening weekend. Because now remember, the reviews on the minute, and the first one,
Starting point is 00:40:34 weren't, weren't great. Yeah, on, on Fallen Kingdom, Unfallen Kingdom, weren't great. And it did,
Starting point is 00:40:42 and it did a billion, did almost as much as. A billion overall, but did it do, did it do a lot opening weekend? I think so. It had to, momentum.
Starting point is 00:40:48 We can look at the box office. I don't think it had like crazy legs. I think it did a decent. All right. If I had to guess, I think, because nothing else is coming out this weekend, is there? No. Next weekend's light year.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Then I think they'll still pull. Next week. I still think they'll pull 100. I'll do more than 100. I'm going to go 175. Yeah. I think you're, I mean, because considering that now we're going to have, Top Gun has been the lowest,
Starting point is 00:41:13 but one of the lowest drop-offs ever in week two. The lowest of the $1,000. Two. But that's why. Was it? I thought it was the number one lowest drop-off in a movie. But here's the thing. With, even though there's nothing new.
Starting point is 00:41:24 coming out with Strange still out with Top Gun still out. I think they pull 100, maybe 120, but I think that I think you have too much firepower out in the stratosphere for them to hit that higher level with these reviews being this bad. I don't know, man. Top Gun made 170 or whatever it was, or 160. And I think more people were excited about Jurassic Park in general. I think they still think that not a lot of people are going to listen to critics.
Starting point is 00:41:49 And I do think dinosaurs are always a sell. I think it makes $150. I mean, I asked my buddy, I was like, Do you want to know my opinion? And like my other, like it's in a group chat with my high school homies. He was like, just let him see the movie without. And I was like, you know what you want. I'm just trying to help.
Starting point is 00:42:03 I'm just trying to let you know. I'm going to say 175, which I think might be in the high end, but I feel like if we go one, 150 175. I think the thing that'll help them with it being such a blockbuster spectacle movie, you're going to get a lot of IMAX and Dolby. Yeah, which I'll have boost it or not. That'll boost it a lot. And I'm going to say 350 worldwide. For both, for 350 worldwide in the movie?
Starting point is 00:42:24 movies? Oh, a weekend. We can. We can, weekend, weekend. Not done. Total. I'm going to go one. I'm going going to go one. I'll change. Instead of one, I'll go 125. 151.75. I'm going to 35, 150, 175. I'm going 350 opening weekend worldwide. I'm going to say it lands at 800. I think word amount's not going to be great. It's going to start a little bit. I think it won't. I think it won't break seven. I think 700 will be they wear caps. So your cap seven, my caps, eight. Christian, what do you got? Had fallen kingdom not done as good as I'd be on Winston's. I have a fallen kingdom prove that they don't care about what it's at this one want, especially now after the pandemic, people still want to watch dinosaur movies in the theater. I'm going to say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say,
Starting point is 00:43:01 850. What you say? Eight. I like that because you're higher overall than me and the domestic. Okay, cool. Yeah, and then. Someone hold us accountable on the weekend box office, which I put in the comments, everybody. Interesting. So, all right, now what we're going to do is I'm going to take, I'm going to take the show logo to bring that down. And we're going to bring up, there's, there's, there's, Domino. Dominion. There is, I got two dominions. I only need one dominion.
Starting point is 00:43:31 So now I got, which one is that? That is Fallen Kingdom. Okay. And we did that. Okay, we're going to bring up all these. Which ones is this one? That's the first one. First world.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Okay. So we're going to maneuver them as each one of us is talking. We're going to maneuver them around. And then there's Jurassic Park 3. Perfecto. There is part two. and I think one is the only one I don't have post report but I have
Starting point is 00:43:57 Will you? That was the end of that tagline Oh, was it? Yeah. Yeah. All right. And then the first one is just a picture of all of our peeps, which is fine.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Look at Hammond. So happy. Yes, poor Hammond. Also, so young. I mean, they still look good for their age, but they are so young. Yeah, it's weird because we were kids. They looked like adults and now I'm like,
Starting point is 00:44:15 we're their age. Laura Dern's like younger than us. I know. All right. So let's go. We'll start with Koi. All right. Let me help you out here.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Hold on. Let's just leave that one there. Yeah, Jurassic Park. Spoiler alert is number one. All right. What do you get for two? I'm going on Lost World. Love it.
Starting point is 00:44:33 That's my Batman and Robin. Okay. My number three is actually going to be Fallen Kingdom. I mean, sorry. The Dominion. What? Dominion.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Dominion. I deserve it. And I'd say to cut it. I'd say to show it. Okay. And then my next one is going to be Jurassic Park 3. Jurassic Park 3. So we can leave it right there.
Starting point is 00:44:51 And then World. and then the one that shall not be named. Yeah, all right. So we got, all right, so this is, this is Coys list. I'm going to do a screenshot of Coys list. And I will say that between two and three is a pretty big leap, and then between three and World is a decent leap for me.
Starting point is 00:45:07 And then that last one's barely a movie. So that's Cois. So Winston will leave, we'll leave that one there. Now, do you set two spots. So keep it so far, then take Dominion and put it at where Jurassic Park 3 is, put Jurassic Park 3 where World is. In the fifth spot? In the fifth spot and put world at number three.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Okay. So that's me. So for Winston, he's got Jurassic Park 1, Jurassic Park 2, then Jurassic World, then Jurassic World, then Jurassic Park 3, and then anyone falling kingdom. I don't think anybody's changing Fallen Kingdom from where it is. One and six are staying as it. Let me screenshot Winston's. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:46 Perfecto. All right, let's see. So for me, I'm probably going to have a different list also, as I'm going to bring all three of our lists up at the end and compare them. So I'm going to stay with number one, obviously. For number two, I think I'm going to actually go with Jurassic World. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Number three, if I have to watch all these movies again, which one? I don't know. I'll probably go Lost World. Now that I've watched them again. Yeah, and then I probably will just stay like this. I think I'll probably go, I mean, even though I don't mind Jurassic Park 3. I don't, but it's even watching it again. again. It's, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:24 So bad. It's really bad. Dressor Park 3 is really bad. And Jurassic World. It just doesn't feel like it matters. I mean, not that Dominion does, but like. But what I'll tell you is that it's just sad in general because we can all agree. Out of these six films, only one of them is great. Yeah. One is truly accepted.
Starting point is 00:46:42 It's great. It's one of the best films of all time. One is, one is great. Three of them are mediocre and two of them are trash. Well, let's see. So the first, so the first one is a masterpiece. We know it. We love it.
Starting point is 00:46:56 So I think that Winston and I are on the same spot with Jurassic World. I don't really love this movie, but on the rewatch, it's still, it's better. It's a Spielberg movie. There's a lot of stupid things going on overall. I can't take inventing a dinosaur for me. I think that's like, because they've already invented dinosaurs. So like I think no matter what, how many time they're rewatching. Oh, sorry, sorry.
Starting point is 00:47:17 I'm talking. I'm talking different. completely. So Jurassic World, I'm talking about, sorry, that's what you're talking about. But Lost World is where my head is. Oh, got it, got it, got it. Sorry. So Jurassic World, the reason I have that at two is because to me, the idea and the fascination of what the park would actually be. Sure. That, to me, works. I like the adventure of it. I enjoy that movie. I don't mind it. And then Lost World, because it's Spielberg, it's a better made film. The Lost World is a better made film in the Jurassic World. There's no doubt about it. There's no doubt about it. But I just like, it's like, it's like, it. I enjoy the Jurassic World better. But yeah, these three films, World Park, and Lost World.
Starting point is 00:48:00 If you had gone one Lost World, Jurassic World, and that was your trilogy, I actually would have probably vibes with it. Yeah. Because it's like, I want to open this park. It's not going to work. Oh, we kind of had an issue. Okay, we actually figured out how to open the park,
Starting point is 00:48:16 but it really became an issue. And we did the park anyway and it was a disaster. And that's a more traditional trilogy. is like, you know, big one, second one's dark and trying to figure it out. Third one's spectacle. I don't feel like it. It's funny because if you would have asked me...
Starting point is 00:48:28 That's Star Wars actually. Yeah, that's true. But before our rewatch, if you would have asked me, Dressick Park 3 would have probably been up there really high for me. Yeah. But after watching it, it's atrocious.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Alan. It's, and then Alan talking, but then, but how bad William H. Macy and Taylorone is. Talyone is not doing anything but screaming. And that's not her fault, but that script doesn't. And I love Tialio. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:49 She is unwatchable in that film. She's as bad as Justice Smith is in Jurassic. There's always one real bad choice. I still stand by. I mean, someone had told me that some dinosaurs of that size actually were pretty soft-footed. But the fact that you heard that dinosaur every other time it was coming, and then the one time they're by the fence, you don't at all feel anything.
Starting point is 00:49:09 He just happens to be there like, it's almost like a camouflage dinosaur that can suddenly go invisible, that can sneak up when it's 40 feet tall in Jurassic Worldwide. You mess with genetics. You're going to get. How is it silent? How is it? invisible and silent. It's in a cage.
Starting point is 00:49:22 It's still got a heat signature. How do you lose it? It's dumb. Hey, man. It's unforgivable. Unforgivables. Unforgivable. Hey, you made your super scroll. Shut up. Yeah. Uh, anyway. I got nothing. I got nothing. That was as long of a pause as your Incredibles moment. Yeah. It's, it's disappointing.
Starting point is 00:49:40 I'm trying to think where, where I'm trying. Yeah. I was that. Hey, Holly Hunter. Hey, Holly Honey. You've been in a lot of movies. So many great movies. Incredible. Credibles. That's it. I wish. Great to meet you. You got to send me that footage. I got to find it. We'll make it. It Got Your Milk Soundbite.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Oh, wow. That's going to be anytime someone says something. I really should leave that graphic. That's nice. That's something else. It's a good picture, isn't it? Hi. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:09 So yeah, I feel like that's our Jurassic Journey. That's it. We finished it up. And you can watch all of our rewatch series. If you haven't seen any of it, you can go and check it out. Do you still, like, here's the, thing. If this movie crosses a billion dollars, society's failed. Nah. You know why I think it's got a good shot is because you have to remember the other thing, too,
Starting point is 00:50:30 is that before the pandemic, there were so many movies coming out. There were three movies in summertime. There were three a week. Now it's got, it's got, and Lightyear's a different market. Here's a little. Here's the only thing that I would say, I don't think it can cross a billy for this reason. Too long. One, it's too long. Two, you had Lightyear. I know it's a different audience, but you are still taking kids to go see the Jurassic films. And three, Thor is like two to three weeks away. You were about to eat alive that audience. Don't forget, though.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Premiere is two weeks away. It's actually four weeks away when it comes out. But it will by then. But don't forget. There is still, there's a, Top Gun is the proof of this. And so is the Lost World or Lost City, whatever that movie is with C. C. There is a contingency from moviegoers who want to watch big movies that are not just Marvel
Starting point is 00:51:17 and DC movies. I don't disagree. I'm just saying typically you are seeing that billion mark happened with only one or two movies in like a quarter. And that like because they are that blockbuster that everybody can't take their eyes off of. So if I remember the last billion dollar film was No Way Home. Strange got close, but I don't think it's crossed that mark. It's got close. No, but Top Gun's doing well.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Top Gun's going to get there. Top Gun will probably do it. But that's what I'm saying. That's the one for the quarter. Let's see. Hold on. Top Gun. Top Gun Maverick.
Starting point is 00:51:47 box office mojo and because I'm about to change my tune on something. I will tell you, let's say, 583. That's 583. And that's in 13 days. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:52:00 So that's, I mean, I, for a movie that cost what it did and for like a 36 year later sequel. I think, I think Jurassic World makes 900 or close to a billion. I'm sticking to eight. If it makes a billion,
Starting point is 00:52:11 it will not be shocked because of everything I was saying there too. Yet also the other thing is people want, want to be back in the movies. I mean, I didn't love Dr. Strange. It's at nine. People want to go to the movies. And there's just not enough right now to see. It's almost like back in the day when it was the only game in town of all the,
Starting point is 00:52:29 like, what do you go out to see? Yeah. You know, and if there's like, well, there's no movie. The thing that's coming out.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Yeah. That weekend's movie. What's the movie coming out right now? Well, it's Jurassic Park. And there are, we're not in the contingency, but there is a massive contingency of people that are going,
Starting point is 00:52:44 there's all that's coming out. It's Marvel and freaking DC. DC movies, like I want to see something else. Yeah, well, what about Jurassic World? Yeah, let's go see a Jurassic Park movie. Come on, Dad. Yeah. I mean, I felt a great tall shop gun because I was going to happen. I was like, this isn't homework.
Starting point is 00:52:56 I could see it. I guess it was just that there was something, again, the movies that have been hitting a Billy, I understand why the first world did. It was the nostalgia of like, we got to get back in it. And it was a good of enough film for Falling Kingdom. I think people were like, I wanted, like, where are we going from here? Yeah. So remember, minions made a billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:53:16 But that makes sense, babies. I'm just telling you. Kids movies do. It was 2015, right? So, Billion, and then that was with, and theaters are just taking,
Starting point is 00:53:27 theaters need, when a movie hits, right now, like you said, Dr. Strange, when a movie's in Top Gun, when a movie hits right now, it's hitting like,
Starting point is 00:53:36 like, because we all want to escape. Like, we all just want that freedom. How did Sonic 2 do? I'm just curious. Sonic 2, well, remember,
Starting point is 00:53:41 Sonic 2 was still kind of in the, the world wasn't back still, But still, let's see. But let's see. Almost 400 million. Yeah. I mean, it costs 70, how much is it? I don't know what the, I find it.
Starting point is 00:53:53 By the way, I'm 20 minutes away from the end of the first one. Of Sonic? Yeah. It's fun, right? Yeah, I like it a lot. Yeah, they're really good time. Dude, Natasha Rothwell. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:00 She is a superstar. I love her so much. Yeah. Thank my daughter for that one for, because my daughter, for her last day of school, they're going to show her Sonic 2. Aw. And she's like, I need to watch one. Yeah, she's like, dad, you got to sign my permission to watch too.
Starting point is 00:54:15 She's like, but we got to watch her. watch one. That's a beautiful. It was really, it was really great. So anyway, that's it. That's our, that's our thing. And I'll tell you right now, for people who missed out on our big thing episode with this, Jurassic World from last Thursday, you missed out because Brett had some really, really crazy stuff that he talked about on the show. And that's where, that's where this comes in. So, a thing of beauty. Yeah. Anyway, I thank you to Koi and Winston. This is, you're going to see a lot of Coy and Winston on Friday, last Friday, you saw them on our Toy Story 2 rewatch. Today we have our Jurassic World Spoiler discussion, Domingo.
Starting point is 00:54:52 And then on Friday, we're going to be doing Toy Story 3 and 4. And then a week from today, we'll be doing our light year spoiler discussion. So make sure you stick with us. And do not forget, please, please go check out Athletic Greens. make sure that you get yourself on that podcast feed. Oh, I deleted it. That's great. And so get on over to the podcast feed, Apple Podcasts, anywhere that podcasts are found.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Do me a favor. And that's it. That's all I got for you. So for Corey Jandro and for Winston A. Marshall, we'll see you guys on the flip side. Peace and go scratch your ball bags.

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