The Kristian Harloff Show - Jurassic World: Rebirth Makes Over 300 Million Globally! | INTERVIEW ANDREW FRIED

Episode Date: July 7, 2025

On today's show we talk about the latest in the Superman screenings, what is to be said about the marketing? Does John have a real beef with James Gunn? Jurassic World Rebirth crushes at the box office. Kristian interviews Andrew Fried, the producer behind Cheer, Welcome To Wrexham, Val and more. Enjoy! #shows #jurassicpark #superman #dc #feud #andrewfried #val SPONSORS: FACTOR: Get started at https://www.factormeals.com/kristian5... and use code kristian50off to get 50 percent off plus FREE shipping on your first box. That's code kristian50off at https://www.factormeals.com/kristian5... for 50 percent off PLUS free shipping. https://www.factormeals.com/kristian5... HYDROW: Skip the gym, not the workout—stay on track with Hydrow! For a limited time go to https://www.hydrow.com and use code KRISTIAN to save up to $475 off your Hydrow! That's https://www.hydrow.com - code KRISTIAN to save up to $475. https://www.hydrow.com - code KRISTIAN

I told you. What did I tell you guys? I said, don't bet against Jurassic World. It doesn't matter how bad reviews are. It doesn't matter if it's mid. It doesn't matter. It does not matter.

These movies somehow are Teflon. This movie has already made almost $400 million worldwide, just like that. So breaking records. You can't. You just can't bet against, you don't bet against James Cameron. You don't bet against Jurassic World.

You just don't. And it looks like it's going to really crush. The question is how much money in week two is going to be hit with Superman coming out? The social embargo drops tonight for that movie. The review embargo drops tomorrow for Superman. So tons of stuff is going to be happening. I'm seeing it tomorrow. Roka's seeing it today.

There's tons of things that are happening with Superman. There's tons of stuff that James Guns already seeing. He said, doesn't have to make $700 million. That's not true. It doesn't have to. Also, there's a few other things. And Mike Kalinowski and Roka erupted in a Twitter war, two friends who could easily call each other fighting all over social media. Make sense?

No. But we're going to talk about that and a lot more here today on the show. So thanks for joining me on the Christian Arloff show here today on this Monday. I hope you had a great holiday weekend. It's me and Roka. Let's do it. Welcome back to the show, ladies and gentlemen, Christian Arloff here on this Monday. Joining me might know him from the.

other side of the Kalanowski-Roka beef on Twitter. What? John Roka is here. Hello, Roka. Me and my hate boner are hanging out here in San Diego. What are you guys doing? Why are you doing this on Twitter? I didn't do anything.

Michael reached out to me because I posted about the gun comments, the latest nonsense from James Gunn saying the Superman doesn't need to make $700 million in order to be a success, which is ridiculous to say that on the eve of the film coming out. And then Michael said, why do you have such a hate boner for this movie? First of all, I've said nothing negative about the movie, just talking about some of the stuff around crypto or the robots. But overall, I've been very positive about the footage I've seen. If you watch my trailer reactions, hell, I even predicted James Gunn would take over the DCU on the hot mic two years ago.

So like to me, I don't understand why people are mad that I'm pointing out some inconsistencies. Wait, wait, wait, stop. Go ahead. You can't say you don't understand my. people are mad. You've been, you have John Roka. You've been going at this man.

Right, wait, but I've been rightfully calling him out. That's the way I don't understand it. You don't think rightfully is subjective here? I don't. I think there are some things that are facts. And I think some things you can say like, well, why would you say something like this? Okay.

Why are you saying this when we know the truth is something opposite? So to me, that's where I get a little bit of the kind of like, I don't understand how people are not seeing this stuff. and I think people have their gun rose-colored glasses on and they refuse, and ear plugs, and they refuse to hear any kind of negativity about the things he's saying. I don't think that there's no truth in that. I don't think that there is not.

I don't. I don't think that there is, absolutely, and that's not just with James Gunn. That's any fandom that we've talked about many times over that there's people who say, how dare you say these things about it? It means that you hate everything.

Dude, I just got that for Ironheart. I had some one guy, right oh you're racist if you don't like 100% the guy was like i wonder why it's okay if white tony stark uh is in a cave and i guess i and i said you know i wrote back i'm a boo i said boo for you for writing up i said that's where you have to go with that boo sir yeah i mean you can say i don't agree with your analysis i don't agree with this i don't but boom that you have to go there just because you like it and i don't boo to you um but nonetheless you know there are people

who just like look and i've got it i've got it both sides of superman that either I'm a shield for DC, I want to see everything, or I'm, I hate everything about it, and I'm a Zach Snyder, all that stuff. That's coming in. We've talked about that many times over, right? So what I'm saying, I agree with you that that portion comes over. But you have also been in a spot to where I even said to you last week, it does seem to me that you're going after gun a little bit more than other people you've gone after the past.

You don't like his ego. You don't like these things. You go after him a little harder than you do normally on other people. or maybe the rock you go at the rock you go on maybe you know as far you say i go after people i'm not i'm a consistent person if you are saying stuff dumb stuff or saying lies or saying things that are 100% true i'll say that 100% i want to use somebody lying then yes i'm going to call you out and i don't care that i'm a fan of yours or not that's why like i pride myself with the consistency of that i don't defend people just because they're my friends or my family if they're wrong they're in the

wrong. I'm going to call them out. I've been a fan of James Gunn's movies since what slithers of like, I have enjoyed his movies for years. But the way he's been rolling out Superman to me, there's a lot of double talk. There's a lot of people. But it is subjective, you said. But it is subjective, you said. So you just said to me. Sure, everything is subjective for sure. Other people look at what he's saying and go, that's logical. That makes all the sense in the world. That's fine. But I think the rock is the same thing. let me tell you how Black Adam made money. And it's like, well, when when people are lying, you have to call them out. And you can't be caught up in your fandom.

If you were pulling crap, I would call you out. Like, this is just kind of how I'm built. So, you know, people want to hate me if they want, but I like to think that's consistent. I mean, you have been consistent with this. There's no, there's no, there's no doubt. You've been consistent. I know. But I didn't praise him the other day.

I did say when James Gunn responded about the movie, I said, God, I hope we get the movie that James is talking about because I would love to see. that movie. So I said that a positive way to try to balance it out because people are so crazy about it. Maybe I've been more positive about it. You know you can't win in this situation. No, of course not. People are expecting you to hate this movie. So if you don't like this movie and you don't get it, even if I do like it, they'll be like, well, he's just saying that for whatever. So yeah, there's no winning on this. Yeah, but I think you lose less if you, if you, if you hate it because I think that people, I mean more. I think you hate it. Just because people are

expect like I'm expecting you to hate I'll be honest I'm I'm nothing of the film that I hate other than some of the crypto stuff that's the thing if you go back and watch jewelry actions right I'm so positive about corn sweat positive about the action positive about bosnia and nicholas old yeah I have no complaints so I look I also don't think you're one you're not one of these people that you're going to go in with your arms folded in a pouty face like if you like you like it but I think that I do think that there's something that you just don't like in general about what james gun is doing and I think that's going to live in there I think that's going to live in there in the movie.

I think it's going to be harder for you to dive into the film. I could be wrong, but it just feels like. As people know, and you're going to see in the geek buddies episode later today, I know people who know him, and they say he's an asshole. And I know people who know Zach Snyder, and they say he's a great guy. So there's a difference. And so you see that. So what we're seeing now is something that I think James has kind of been sitting on for a while.

and now we're because it's easy to hide behind Kevin Feigy and the shield of marble. Now you're the frontman. And when you're the front man, all your stuff comes out. And so I think that's what you're seeing in his behavior. He's got a little bit of the goalpost moving, a little bit of the convenient double talk. Yeah. And I don't, if this film underperforms, I don't know how he's going to handle it, you know. So just to push back a little bit.

Yeah, sure. I can also say that I know some people who know him and I hear that he's a great person. So it's like it's always it's always again subjective. And it depends who you're talking to. It depends on what day they caught the person on. Maybe if he was a great person and he had an asshole day that your friend caught him on that day or the vice versa. That he was using. Or at least you were worked with him.

You're saying working in general. I'm talking about people who hang out with them constantly and like know him well. And every actor that's worked with them likes working with them, right? At least the ones that I know. You can say that for Snyder. people come after Snyder sure i'm not i'm not irony is the same people who are coming for me for the gun and say why you hate on him so much why you dick munch and yeah are the same people who've doing that to Snyder for 10 fucking years like seriously take a look in the mirror like for god's

sakes look at yourself and be like oh yeah i was doing the exact same thing why was it okay when i was doing it but i'm mad at him for doing it i'm right this is it's not this movie this but i will say though i don't buy into the fact of that i know you and you and schneider talked about the last because we covered it on the show where you guys were talking about the opening weekend numbers, right? And what Snyder said that I gave him credit for, right? He said, look, tracking is bullshit. He's like, you don't know what it.

He's like, look, I hear it 175. 01 point. I heard 85 of one point. He heard this, he said, you can't tell because I keep using Minecraft. No one expected Minecraft to have that opening weekend, right? Sure. But I think, yeah, go ahead. I'm just saying, I think the conversations that we're having right now.

Hmm. And even talking to my friend today, who I see, you know, who was just a casual person. Dude, I was walking around the city. All I saw was Superman stuff. This is going to do well. It's going to do very well. It's not going to underperform.

It's going to hit that $600, $700, $700. million. It's going to perform. Yeah, but I, okay. Go ahead. Good. I think you have to do more than $700 with the way you've presented this film. And that's why I took issue with James Gunn's comments, because I'm like, that makes no sense.

This is Superman. And to push back a little on what Kalanowski said on the tweet, this is an iron man this is superman this is the crown jewel of dc this side of you're not going to start a a dc universe off batman's back you're going to start it off superman's back because that's a four quadrant film and that's what you you want kids and adults and grandparents and all they all know superman they know what superman stands for and so if you decided that i am going to direct this film and i know how he presented that peter saffron begged them to do it whatever but if you are going to this film and you have a proven box office traffic everybody over the weekend was like

james gun don't miss shut the fuck up james gun makes eight and a million or the little okay if that's your reasoning then you can't turn around and say well if it makes 600 that's totally fine that's inconsistent logic if you're telling me the reason it's going to explode and do well is because he's done well with all the superhero films before then you can't come at me and tell me that it's nonsense to expect it to make more than $700 million. That doesn't make sense. And so I'm looking at it in that. I'm using their logic.

And that's the thing, even they are pushing back on their own logic, which makes no sense. I guess so. I guess for him the way he's looking at it is with his production budget in general, right? Because I think that what it does come to where I will agree with Mike Kalinowski in the Ironman section of it. Because I also agree with you, the IP of itself at the time, Iron Man was not, did not, carry the weight that a Superman. But to defend Mike, even though he's not here, and what I would assume is it has the weight of Iron Man in starting a cinematic universe.

But no one knew they were starting a cinematic universe. No, no, no, maybe not. They do now. Well, they had the, it was the inception of it. It did, they did know they were starting it because they had Nick Fury talking about the event. But they could have fallen apart if that film had not done well. Of course, but it doesn't take away from the weight of it.

It's the weight is still there. But they both are launching something. And this has the Superman power behind it. But I think that what it also has is that, look, James Gunn's looking at it's like, for me, I know what I spent on this movie production wise. And I know how badly Warner Brothers needs this movie to succeed. They are putting in a significant amount of marketing into it, to which we knew that we needed as well. Probably 200 million.

Maybe so. And I think that he's looking at it. I need to make my production budget back. That's what I need to make back. And I think that's what he's looking at inside of that 700 million, right? So if I even say that. Like, but why even that's a different, that's a different conversation. You shouldn't say anything.

You know, I mean, that's the problem with all of this is that where is David corn sweat? Where is Rachel Brosnan? Where is Nicholas Hold? Why are you taking center stage? These three should be taking center stage just like Fantastic Ford. You catch Matt Shackman or Feige rolling out there making all these comments. No, it's Pedro, it's Vanessa.

it's it's uh um josecuit's other people who are come do people cover did it have uh matt shackman on the cover or was it the four actors it was the four actors the rolling stone cover who was on the cover oh it was fucking james gun that's the thing you look at is like it's a little bit like let the actors do the because everything corn sweat and brosanan have said about the movie it is charming it is fantastic it's great it sells the i know but i think that also the argument again could be made at this point where you're at with marvel right you're so far along with Marvel. Marvel has spoke for self-granted. They're needing to have a comeback. And the fantastic core is promoting those four where the story of this franchise at the moment is the manager

of the baseball team. It's the story. James Gunn is the story. He really is. He's the story. Whether you like the fact that he's the story or not, which you made himself the story. He has made himself I think a lot of people have made himself the story. I think that even you talking about him has made him the story. That's fair, but I'm only talking about him because he's out here talking. If he wasn't saying anything, but he's made himself for the story, you are helping the story. And because of that, people are sticking on the interviews and he's becoming the story, and maybe rightfully so. He's promoted, you use your promotion. Yeah. Or wrongfully, it depends.

More wrongfully, we'll have to see with the opening weekend, you know. I think the PR Rowland has nothing to do with the quality. Again, it's nothing to do with the quality of the film. Yeah. got to put again i clarify this because kalanowski's tweet like this i was so weird i could text i decided i i know i tried to get him on the show to to to have you talk to him but he just he's not around i don't think he he has my number uh we've been friends for 20 plus years hilarious that he went after you and i think it's funny the and also it's funny the the guy who cohoes dc news is going to come at me saying that i'm biased i think that's funny but like you look at this whole thing

you're like come on it's very clear what is going on here to me yeah and if People are, like, someone wished death on me on Twitter, and I retweeted that. And I was like, come on, guys, it's just an epic movie. He's just a director. He's flesh and bone, just like you. And he is not, you can't, he's not impervious to criticism. I don't think any creative is impervious to criticism. Right.

And it's, I don't think I'm going, like you're saying, I'm obsessed with him. I don't, I'm not talking about. I didn't say obsessed. I said that you're, you're, to me, knowing you as long as I do, you are, to me going after him. it seems like more than I've seen you go after other people in the past. Well, I think other people have spoken just as much as James Gunn, but they haven't said as much double speak or bullshit or convenient goalpost moving stuff as he has said. And I think if they had, you'd have seen me go.

I don't want to make that comparison because people are going to think I'm making a comparison. But like there have been people in the past, you know, like when I was a collider, I went after Brian Singer all the time for the bullshit people. But I'm not, of course, I'm not comparing what I'm at the Brian Singer. But like when people do wrong, I'm not afraid to call them out. But I think that the difference. Okay, but I know that you don't want to use that example, but because you did, the difference, I think, in a situation like that is that what was going on at the time, the majority of people at the time. But the majority of people, when you hear the things in the allegations and things that are going on at that time, that's a, that's like people are going to.

Of course, of course. Right. As opposed to a movie that's coming out, you haven't seen the movie yet. And you still haven't let it. And I'm not saying anything about the movie, but. the way but but but but okay so here's another side of this if this movie winds up crushing going way past that 700 million and hitting close to a billion great would you then say hey look maybe i was wrong maybe the no no you wouldn't no not at all i i said whether the movie is to say again

whether the movie is and i mean again like to you i'm saying to the people who were saying whether the movie is a success or not is irrelevant to my feelings about how he's been rolling out the the PR. You know, Bobby Knight was a success as a football, his basketball coach. I liked that he was choking his players and throwing chairs across the all. No, I didn't. But it got the results. But again, it depends on your point of view. Do you like the results or do you not like? Okay, fine. Davey Johnson. I didn't like Davey Johnson. He was a prick, but he got the best out of his teams when he was coaching the teams, right? But I didn't like him. He was an utter prick. So you look at the situation. It's the same thing for me.

if i go sports connection like tarantino tarantino is that some for me has that some you know made some inappropriate comments about women he's done some inappropriate things to female actresses on his sets and you know putting his hands choking diane kruger in in glorious bass that's his hand you see in the movie okay those are things that i did not and i've called him out on it the saintly hallowed quentin tarentino

i don't have the hero worship other than tom cruise i mean honestly i'll be a minute tommy i let tommy get away with murder i'm not going to lie to you You let the rock go for a long time. Well, I didn't see the stuff like other people did until I saw it. But that's the thing. I, you know, I call, I'm not afraid to call anybody out. I'm not caught up in hero worship. And I get that other people are.

But that's for them. And so I'm not afraid to do it. And so I kind of, and people may hate me for it, but I pride myself on the fact that I'm not afraid of any of these creatives or, you know, oh, don't say anything negative about this person. I would have been amazing for killers of the flower of movement. I know, but I guess, I guess for me right now is I just don't, as where, look, clearly, I know you well enough.

You're not just making this stuff up. This is how you feel. I just don't feel that this criticism is warranted yet, in my opinion. Because you think the results matter. I do. And I do not. That's why we're different in that. Agreed.

I hope the movie does. I hope the movie is great and people love it because we do need a good Superman movie. I think with everything that's going on in the world, especially with what happened in Texas, the sadness that's going on in Texas. with all those lives. People want a place to escape into a Superman movie they can believe in. And I hope this is what people are get. You know, I hope I like the movie tonight. I know people, half the audience probably doesn't believe me. I want to like the movie and I hope I do like the movie. But if I don't like the movie, it's because I authentically didn't like the movie. And if I do

like it, it's because I authentically liked it. And so, you know, oh my goodness. What a way to start. put your thoughts in there what do you make of all of this what do you make uh the james gun conversations thus far what do you make about criticisms if they are just are they unjust what do you think about friends settling things on twitter instead of calling each other like human beings put your thoughts in there let us know um we do have a lot of great stuff going on today we're talking about this drastic world thing in just a second here and then i'm gonna i have a I have a great interview today that I did with a good friend of mine, Andrew Fried has been on the show.

Welcome to Rexum, the Val Doc. You were Val Kilmer fan. We talk about how that Val thing came about and how he tells some great stories about Val Kilmer, some other things that'll be in just a little bit. And we're going to take your questions. Right now, you're standing 18 questions. John won the week last week. 18's pretty good for the first one.

But let's get into this box office stuff, guys. Because I told you, I told you all. John doubted me. Everybody doubted me. Oh, you're not right, by the way. We're going to have a discussion about this. I don't know. You think it's going to be too big of a drop off for Superman?

No, I'm telling you it didn't perform as well as you think it did. So let's have the conversation. Internationally, I disagree. But let's talk about it. While Jurassic World Rebirth has dominated the box office headlines of this July 4th holiday weekend. It seems numerous records are falling all over the place. Let's start with Jurassic, which is now headed for 318.3 million by the end of Sunday. That is the biggest worldwide opening of the year for a studio film so far.

and the second best start for the franchise. And overseas only, not domestic, it has pulled in 171 million, making it the second biggest opener for the franchise and the second biggest international box office opener of 2025 behind China's Ni-Zat-2. In China alone, the film snagged 41.5 million since its opening on Wednesday,

the biggest studio movie opening of 2025, and is already outgrossed films like a Minecraft movie, Lilo and Stitch, in those markets. The film's estimates keep going upward, three-day at 91.5 million and five-day now at 147.3. The success of the movie has also impacted its leading star actress, Scarlett Johansson, officially becoming the highest grossing actor of all time at the global box office. It's not the only movie making headlines. F-1 is coming in second, domestically, with a three-day at 26 million, drop up 54 in its second weekend. The film's worldwide total stands at 293 after 10 days release, overtaking killers of the flower moon, and Napoleon to become Apple's highest grossing movie to date.

Coming in third, How to Train Your Dragon, which is headed for 11 million for the three day and it's four weekend. Title has now grossed 224 state side and has become the highest grossing film of the franchise domestically. Ilya and 28 years later are closing out the top five domestically with 5.7 million and 4.6. Both films sadly have not the kind of legs that were hoped for. All right. First things first. Let's talk about, uh, Dr.

I'm going to bring up why you, you can give your, and why you think this movie is not performing as well as they're making out to be. And I'm going to look up the full numbers on box office mojo. Well, I'm telling you the numbers right now. Okay. The movie, the movie made $300-something million, right? Over five days. That's what it is.

Now, according to numerous box office, things, Fallen Kingdom began with $181.81 million dollars domestically. Dominion wasn't far behind with 172.5. And at this point, rebirths, is tracking uh it could already rank behind spielberg's original 1993 which dropped just 18.2% to a second weekend of 38.4 million right what i think people are caught up in is that is that nobody thought this movie was going to blow up as much as it did well i mean you thought it was going to do and and i guess there were a couple of people thought it's going to do but nobody thought about

300 million that's a super it blew away all the predictions and tracking the people had initially but the three-day weekend was only 91.5 million dollars now it opened over a five-day weekend but over the traditional three-day weekend it only made 91.5 yeah and as i said jurasic world which initially produced the reboot of the classic made 208 million dollars over three days yes domestically 148 million dollars over three days and then dominion 145 million over three days all domestic sure and after five days Jurassic world had garnered 258 million domestically 181 million for falling kingdom and dominion and 172 million. So domestically, it is not, it is tens of millions of dollars behind those three films.

So I don't disagree. I think it's great that it did this well, but I think it's more bumblebee in the type of movie to the Transformers films or Hobbs and Shaw to the Fast and Furious films. And in that context, it did well, but I don't think it's going to challenge what those previous drastic world movies did. It's, dude, it still has a shot to hit big numbers because of what I've been saying since the beginning of this thing and it's the international number i don't disagree with you at all that it is if you're if you're looking at domestic numbers it's not like the high grosser but i'd like to also see the comparison as you just mentioned what's the comparison with the international numbers of those movies that you just did right because that's the thing is that these movies for some reason

they are teflon internationally they just it's like people just want to see dinosaurs they don't give a crap about what people are saying and subtitles and all those things they just don't care um It's about the damn dinosaurs, and they will continue to make money. I can't believe that the last two Jurassic World made over a billion dollars. That's why don't count these things out. And it's the international number that, to me, is the whole reason that things are success at all. Because as you said, it's five days. That's not a super impressive number and compared to the other ones.

But like I said, I wonder what the comparisons were to international. Do you have those numbers? I'm looking them up right now. Okay. I don't know if I'll get them, but I'm looking them up right now. Okay, because I still think this movie has a good shot, but here is also the difference. The difference is that it's got now two heavyweights coming in to not get right on its ass. But with international, I don't know how big internationally Superman will do good.

I don't know if it's going to do great internationally. I don't know if Fantastic Four will do great internationally. they might be do decent might be do well i still feel out of the three of them internationally dracic world will do the best i think domestically it's going to be third place um but internationally i don't know i don't know yeah it's interesting because i think i think it will do well internationally and listen just because it isn't matching the Jurassic world dominion trilogy or drastic world trilogy numbers doesn't mean it's still not a good number for rebirth to hit right i think i don't think a lot of people thought 300 million dollars is remotely a possibility um and the fact that it has speaks to the

attention of the that the brand still gets from moviegoers both internationally and domestic the question becomes how it does in the next two weeks because as you said two heavy what's coming in but also the film is not being reviewed very well and there's a lot of fans were the other ones no and that's the but the but there's also i think there's more of the fans who are saying negative i got a b b cinema score or something like that which none of the Jurassic world films i think got anything lower than an a minus on their on their uh movie scores coming out so that's a problem and i think it will catch up with them this weekend and next weekend. And if this thing breaks

500, if it doesn't break 600, I won't be surprised. If it breaks, if it doesn't break 500, I kind of won't be surprised, but really? Probably is going to land between 5 and 6. Yeah, because I think Superman is going to come out and depend on word of mouth. And certainly if there's going to be DC fans

who are like, no matter what, we're going to go see this movie multiple times because I want to support it. Look at Aquaman doing a billion or Aquaman 2 doing 400 million dollars. No one thought that was going to happen with that lame duck movie and it did so decent fandom is strong in the movie you still but you still let me a steak dinner which we know which for what now dead pole wolverine that's oh that's been collected i misunderstood

the effect that that movie but that but then look at that then because people are saying to me nowadays it's like on twitter there's in today like it's not the same box office like it was before it's like deadpool wolver just made a billion dollars you did you can't make a fucking billion dollars but Deadpool Wolver can make a billion dollars? It's, it is, yeah, spectacle movies. There are some movies that are going to be hard to profit, but spectacle movies can still make a billion dollars,

especially with ticket prices going up. So I will tell you that if you want to go double or nothing on, no, I'm never betting again with you. That's fair. Because I will tell you, I think Jurassic Park definitely clears 700 for, whoa,

you think 700 million by the end of it run. By the end of its run, it's a 700 million worldwide. You want, you want, you want to, do double or nothing? It's a good bet. Come on, John. You just said you're never going to do it, but I'm putting on this. But like, it can't be an expensive steak dinner. It has to be like, let me break. I mean, I'm going to collect both of them the same week when I can visit.

It's what I'm going to do. Two stakes in one day. I don't know. I should we do that? Or, or, or how about this? How about this? Or we can do. Or we can do. we can just add. No, I'll take it. You take it? I'll take it. Double or nothing. Double or nothing.

You heard it here, folks. Jurassic World War, we're not. All it's got to do is clear, 700 million. That's it. By the end of it's run. Yeah. Okay. Perfect.

We did it. Okay. So let's see what's going to happen. I think you just made another stupid bet. What should do? What do you guys think about all of this? What do you think about the box office? What do you think about Jurassic World in general?

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Use that code Christian. Save up to $475. $10.com. Use the code Christian. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm excited. One of my best friends in the world. I've told you that before. And if you've been following me long enough, you know, I call him Midas. He has produced so many great things. And look, welcome to Rexham's another show that he is one of this big hit shows that he's got a new season of.

he did Val, the late great Val Kilmer, and he did this, and he actually gave me, I got to see this before a lot of people did, and it was just such a moving thing. And that's just chef's table, so many different things that he's done. And I haven't talked to him in a bit as far as on air. And I was like, you know what? I just want to have Andrew on because I think the audience likes to hear from him, likes to hear his stories. And that's it. So I'm going to do. I'm going to bring on my buddy Andrew Freed. What's up, Andrew? How you doing? Nice to see you, Christian. Nice to see you too. And nice to be here. Yes. I take great compliment in the fact that your community has any interest in engaging with me in this way over and over again. So if that's true, then that's

very cool for me. I just think it's cool. I think it's always interesting to hear like how, and I like to recap the journey of people too and the idea of like, and I was telling the story about you recently. I can't remember to who, but I was saying, yeah, my, my friend Andrew really did something amazing. Like he, we, the two of us met in L.A. We're both from New York. When we met, it was like, we were both getting into standup. And we both became friends through standup comedy and mutual friends, obviously.

But like, you had such a different journey because you were like, yeah, you know what? I'm going to go back. I'm going to work in the family business. Didn't really go that way because you were like, that's not what I want to do. want to be in entertainment and you can't and you had to like kind of have this battle not battle shouldn't battle is not the right thing but like i guess a battle within a battle within and and and so then turning that into and i don't know have ever we told the story when we were sitting down and we're talking about like the whole mike tyson side of it all i don't know i

our lunch and uh i mean we've had so many here's the nice thing right yeah yeah and as we get older and uh i get grayer these things do start to crystallize uh even more clearly right because i don't i don't remember which conversation was about which or whether we were sitting at south beverly grill when we talked about that one thing or we were sitting somewhere else when we we talk about the other thing but i do know that over time we have very meaningful conversations at these like um almost like uh like these inflection points but like they're almost like gifts from the universe where you and i are are talking about what what we have done what we were originally trying to do right what now we're trying to accomplish and if we have any chance at at figuring it out

And I like that about us. It's hilarious that you say that because it's so true. I remember when I was in that cross, because it goes both ways, right, because of the crossroads period of my life when I was doing stand-up and I was still interested in wrestling and WWE and all that. And again, our mutual friend, Trevor Engelson was like,

hey, you know, you're gonna write something, get something out there, do something. And I wrote these storylines, but then you were helping me with, crafting the letter to Vince McMahon and Stephanie McMahon and helping me. And I'll never forget what you said, though, when I was getting there, you said, here, look, here's, I think you gave me like five or ten bucks, whatever it was. And you go, take this.

And the first person you see who's in need of it, give it to them when you got there. Do you remember this? Yeah, it's a, it's a, you know, thank you so much for giving me the excuse to tell this story. Go ahead. I never get to tell them. So my, uh, girlfriend in high school, her name was Danielle Paris she still is her name

I guess she's married now so it's no longer her name but anyway her dad was a professional basketball player in like the pre-NBA days he had played at city college in the 30s like was a national championship but like you know when you see the real

scratchy footage of basketball when the key was actually shaped like a key sure and he had this you know when they traveled in those professional sports days, it was gnarly. And he was a very nervous traveler. And so he used to have this tradition of folding up a dollar bill in a particular shape so that it's folded in the one. It's like all you can see.

And that was his tradition. And he used to do it to me. Hey, when you get to wherever you're going, give this to somebody who needs it. Yeah. And so I love that. I try to keep that tradition. I haven't done that in a while, but I'm glad I did that with you. I remember it. I remember and that was that was 25 years ago or 23 years ago whenever it was. And I remember it like it was yesterday. And so yeah, we have had that. I mean, even and I told this story on the air about the whole thing with the punching bag and the Jake Paul thing. And that was Andrew's event that he was so kind to invite me to. And it's the other thing. Let's start with that. How do you get involved with the Paul brothers? Right. How does that come to be and how do they like, you know, do they say like, hey, we see all this stuff that you're doing, you take these meetings. So you take meetings all the time.

with people how do you decide that you wanted to do this particular show so they all come about differently i am always happy to talk i'm like beyond like it's not like oh i'm happy to as a courtesy i am thrilled to be able to talk to anyone ever about what we do and to try to see if there's a version of something that i could do with somebody right whoever it is yeah famous person right Ryan Reynolds or person who I never met before, but like, oh, there's a chance for us to talk about something that we could cruise on. Like, yeah, let's do that. That project, though, in particular, I work with a filmmaker named Andrew Renzi. He is a company north of now who my company boardwalk has an overall deal with. And he had directed an episode of Untold with Jake Paul.

Okay. And so this was an offshoot of that, of like, his experience making that about Jake, Jake, what he felt about it initially, what he then grew to appreciate about it. And this idea of, what if we really did a show? Is it a reality show? Is it a documentary? Is it somewhere in between? I think that's the beautiful space that the work that a lot of the work, a lot of the, work that we do tries to occupy.

And so, but from an initial conceit, no, that was not a case of like taking a meeting. Now, I will say this. Our company, as we've talked about through the years, we've done lots of different work, and you're always a huge champion of what we're doing, and I appreciate that. But, you know, I think in the last few years, we've had to embrace the idea that a lot of the shows that we used to make just aren't on mainstream, you know, network, streamers, et cetera, anymore, right? It's funny to think of Netflix as traditional media,

but at this point it is. And shows that we used to make, there are great shows on Netflix that we made, like Home Game, which was about sports, and each episode was a different cultural sporting event around the world, like, go watch the Cultio-Storico episode of Home Game and tell me that that show isn't, like, killer, right? And we did a show called Action about sports betting.

We did it on Showtime, we did all these shows, I like to say that like these shows that line the back stairwell, like all the posters that are hung in the back stairwell here, like those were killer shows. We loved making them. And they're not really on, again, I say with air quotes, like mainstream television. And so we for the last few years realized

that if we're going to be able to continue to do what we do, the way we do it, it has to be bigger. Right. We saw it with Welcome to Rexum. Right. I mean, the new documentary version now is two really, really famous people, one of the most famous people on the planet. And then they shine a light on something that is really sweet and charming and is increasingly less sweet and charming as it just grows bigger and bigger and bigger. And that's maybe the creative tension that's exciting about it, right?

But like, that became sort of the new template. And so in a world where we're the people who produced cheer, you know, Greg Whiteley directed two seasons of cheer, and we won a bunch of Emmy Awards for that and had a whole bunch of other nominations that we lost to the Beatles and Peter Jackson with. But, you know, yeah, it's a decent company. But when we had made two seasons of cheer,

this very, very successful show and then realized for a series about cheerleading to live on, it would have to reimagine itself to be America's sweethearts, which is about the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, that's a real shift in what's happening. And I'm talking shop because I know that your audience likes to talk. Yeah. And so that was a real shift.

And so there's two questions that remain there. Number one is, okay, how do we make really the biggest version of what we do? Enter Jake and Logan Paul, right? Like that is an amazing opportunity to have that social experiment. And then number two, how do we, find audiences to engage with? How do we find communities to engage with in a very modern media landscape to be able to tell those stories that we used to tell? Probably at a slightly different price point and probably, you know, a lot of different creative changes that we would want to make

to it. But it becomes a real exciting part of what we're doing now, which is, yeah, there's Jake and Logan Paul we did a show with the Boston Red Sox, we did a show with Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. Hey, Chis or Red Sox. Hey, Chisor Red Sox, you're Yankee fan. How do that? You know, I didn't fully realize how that all came about. It was sort of a baked, it was a made hand. Yeah. And I didn't fully appreciate it until I saw our lead executive at Netflix at a concert at the Hollywood Bowl. And he was wearing a New England Patriots hat. And I was just like, oh, you're a Boston guy. Like, of course, I should have known.

But I did not know that he was a New England guy before I saw him at the Hollywood Bowl. But, yeah, you know, like, again, Greg Whiteley used to do Last Chance You. That was about, you know, D3 football programs in, you know, Mississippi. And or at least in its inception. And now he's doing the Boston Red Sox. And it used to be cheerleaders in West Texas. And now it's, you know, cheerleaders in Dallas, you know, with a big star on the field.

So it's it's an evolution. Well, this is something I wanted to ask you too. So you do so much, I mean, because you're obviously, as I mentioned in the intro with the stuff he did with Val and like just you've always been big into the pop culture stuff, movies and TV. Like I remember watching your place watching the Sopranos and West Wing and stuff with you.

But like a lot of the stuff that you've found a lot of success with, as you just mentioned, most of them there are sports oriented, right? Like, what is it in general? Because I know, and it's a lot of stand-up comics. So you also did the, that Bill Cosby documentary too. You've done a lot of different things that have been all over. But a lot of it seems to jump into the sports stuff.

Is that intentional? Is that the stuff that just speaks to you? Like, why is it a lot of the stuff is sports? Well, it's funny, right? Because it ended up that way, right? So maybe at the beginning when you and I were younger and I was like hunting down Bob Costas on 6th Avenue like I really with some intention did want to be at this intersection of sports and entertainment that was where I thought my interest would lie um but then it just sort of happened

that way what's funny is that in the sports community I'm sort of a producer and we're a company that like doesn't really do sports right like notwithstanding the fact that we do welcome to Rexo. We do America's sweetheart and there are a couple of sports Emmys on the shelves and all the stuff that Greg Whiteley has done to this point has been sports related. And we work very closely with him. And so, yeah, it just turns out that way.

I'll say this though. 30 for 30 changed the landscape, right? So to your question of, you know, when you go through all the titles that we've done, I think I always wanted to do documentary as mainstream entertainment. Yeah. I just wanted it to be entertainment.

I didn't want it to be like special category documentary or even special category sports for that matter. If you go back in time, the jinx happened on HBO and then 30 for 30 happened on ESPN. And that was sort of the birth of documentary content being on television. And it's interesting to see, you know, when was that? uh, 2008, I would say, just off the top of my head. Okay. So now in 2025, the enduring things that are happening in unscripted and documentary

really are still true crime and sports. Right. Like you've gone round and round and I make great food shows that I'm very proud of and and all the other things. You did a great UFO one too, by the way. Thank you very much. Um, and yet what indoors globally, uh, for these streamers and with audiences, what seems to resonate the most,

has a lot to do with sports and has a lot to do a true crime. I would also add that sports is like a little bit of a cheat code from a storytelling standpoint. There's a beginning, there's an end. Oftentimes there's a ticking clock. It's heightened stakes. It's heightened emotion.

People get carried off the fields, you know, as winners. There's just a lot that goes into it where the stakes are built in. And so as storytellers, you don't have to do an awful lot to it. Right. If you watch Greg Whiteley stuff, whether it's cheer or now America's sweethearts or, you know, he's counting down to something. Five weeks till the first game, three weeks.

Like sports has always a countdown. And that's, I think, a bit of a storytelling cheat code. Yeah. And there's also tribal. It's also tribal. Yeah, there is. Absolutely. Absolutely.

I mean, there's a, and I don't know, there's a particular project that I saw. of yours. We won't talk. I don't know how much I can say. So I'll just say that it's stuff that you've, you've told stories in different parts of sports and different things that I think it is more. And I think that you are in a certain aspect. And I don't ever say this about you, but you're being humble. I'm kidding. You're very humble. But what you, what you were talking about, I do think that, yes, there's a cheat code. But there is also an art to being able to bring that story in an entertainment way. and finding the right tools to make that happen

to which you do very well. And that project that I saw was just, like it was just second and none. There's really, you're following certain people, but you can choose, the amount of footage that you have, you can choose to use footage that someone would be like, all right, let's go. Yeah, yeah, I get it.

You need to show this, but let's move. And you guys just put things in order that it just works, whether it's the thing I'm talking about, whether it's Rexham, whether it's these other things. And it also, not even just in sports, it's in that storytelling aspect that I mentioned again,

I bring it back for the third time, and that's Val. And I got to talk to you about that, especially with his passing and everything that, you know, that to me, I remember you calling me and telling me, I got a really cool thing I'm working on right now,

and I want you to take a look at it. And I called you immediately afterwards, and I was just like, dude, This is so incredible. All right. So let's talk about how Val came to be, the project, and just in general, because it's such a fascinating piece of work. And the story behind it is interesting. So how did that all come to be?

Yeah. So I had worked for years with Ting Pu, who is one of the co-directors of Val. She was an editor who I had worked with a lot. he came to me. I think we were I think we were editing something together and she said, you know, my, my friend Leo, who I worked very closely with Leo Scott, who's one of the other co-director, who is the other co-director of Val. He needs your advice on something kind of thing.

And so I met with Leo, who's the nicest guy. And what emerged was that he had been filming with Val for now years. Val had conceived of this one-man show, which have you seen the film, and I would really, I mean, now that he's gone, especially, it's a beautiful film that Ting and Leo made. And that Val made,

and that, you know, Val's whole family made, honestly. But so, and I can say this now with love and respect, but Val had engaged Leo to do like the behind the scenes of this Mark Twain, one man showed you. Yeah, right. Yeah, it's part of the movie. Yeah. And so he was filming part of that.

And then that became something else. And then that became something else. And then Val's health started to face some challenges. And Leo, in a very documentary filmmaker way, just kept filming. Whatever was happening, he kept filming. But then you find yourself, you know, years into this. Yeah. With all this footage, not really knowing what to do, he had also been simultaneously digitizing all of the footage that

Val had shot of himself through the years. And that project was going, but candidly, and I hope he wouldn't mind me saying this, like he was into it now for like, you know, maybe not explicitly money, but you're working a long time on something like it's like, what do I do? Right, right. So we had a meeting.

I hope I'm not divulging something that everybody wouldn't want, but so we have a meeting at my office. And Val starts, Now, he of course comes in with scarfs around his throat. Yeah. But, you know, in many ways, he's unrecognizable. Yeah. He can't really speak.

I mean, you know, you know what he sounded like at the end. So, but he's communicating. He's speaking. And he wants to make a reality show where it's about an art gallery that he owns in Silver Lake. And he's projecting old. footage that he shot on the set of, you know, the island of Dr. Moreau. And it's projected on the walls. And that's like an art installation.

He wanted to like do this TV show. And I was like, yeah, and he wanted to talk about Mark Twain. He wanted to talk about like a whole lot of things. And I said to him pretty candidly in that meeting. I said, yeah, I don't want to do any in that. And he said, well, what do you want to do? I said, I want to get you a standing ovation at Cannes. Yeah, that's great.

And, you know, there are a few moments in one's life. Such a great freed line. It's such a great. And it is. And I have enough distance from it that I can appreciate that. It is. And we did. Yeah, you did.

Yeah. And so that was a journey in convincing him to do that. Again, Leo and Ting did an incredible job with that film. It premiered it can to a show. standing ovation. And look, I think that that film, I can say this to you now, my friend who has this engaged community, to me that film is an exercise in seeing someone

who wanted very specific things and got every one of them. He achieved every single thing that he dreamed of a, achieving. And as he was achieving them, he kind of either wasn't present enough or kind of took a piss on it at the same time or it wasn't what he thought it would be. Whatever that struggle was for him, that's what the story of the movie is to me. That might not be what it is to you, but it is what the movie is to me. And the release of it continued to be that because we got him a standing ovation of canon. He was not there. Oh, right. And his kids, kids were there but he was not there was he was he was he not there because of health stuff or

he just didn't want to go i don't know what combination of health stuff or did he really want to sit in that right theater and watch that um right i'll never know right but he wasn't there and then we did a big fancy premiere at the directors guild on sunset and michael man was there and it was like the coolest. And Val was not. And so I love that that film exists. We knew obviously, now, we should know this about everything that we make. Someday the subject of our films is not going to be here anymore.

Right. And so we should make it knowing, especially in a streaming era where these films last forever in a catalog, we should make it like that. And I hope that we do. but his passing and uh clarence avant the subject of the black godfather passed and uh such a life right yeah yeah yeah i mean i'm sure like like and that's one of the things that when you're making these stories a lot of them about these true human stories and not even necessarily in in passing of people dying but it's like more or less like some of the things that you've got to see

just some of these stories of like you're following them that is part of this you could have a lot of happy moments you can you can feel a lot of the you know this the sad moments you can there's just so much i mean i literally could talk to you and the audience should hear for like three to four hours five hours a full day to be honest of all the different stories you have but you're busy i appreciate it what i will say just to steal the the mic a little bit is Greg whiteley does this in his shows in particular there's obviously a ton of this in rexum as well but what i've become a fan of of late is the effect of the show on the subjects of the show in later seasons. Right.

Meaning, if you go back and watch Cheer, the first season of Cheer is about a junior college in West Texas and people who could never imagine being on TV. Season two of Cheer is like Rocky Three. Right, right. They might as well be practicing in the lobby of the plaza. That's my point. Right.

And so, and Last Chance, you has those themes, and America's Sweethearts this year has those things. I love that. That's what I mean. Sort of meta. So I'm saying, you get to go through that journey with them. And I've seen you do it. I've seen you be in, you know, in the clouds.

And I've seen you be in the shits because of the things that the people that you're, you know, you're working with and the stories you're getting involved with. And it's part of the rush that comes with it like anything else. But all right, tell me before we let you go here, because I know you're busy, you've got things to do. What's going on with boardwalk? What's the latest? What should people be looking out for?

That's such an excitement. question and I just have to go through my calendar. Look, the reality is, is that you and I are going to be talking again in the fall. Great. Because I got a good one. Okay. You just can't talk about it yet. I can't talk about it yet. But again, I'm not like, just amongst friends, we're going to be talking again in the fall.

Okay, I like that. I like that. We have, but we have this film coming out, Shark Whisperer, which is about Ocean Ramsey. Okay. That that comes out on Netflix. I want to say, I don't know, this week before the end of the month. Right. And that's really, really cool. Again, America's Sweethearts that is on Netflix currently.

That's season two of America's Sweethearts. That's really exciting. And again, these shows last forever, like the Clubhouse, the Boston Red Sox series that we did. I know you would prefer that we do it about the Mets. I know that that would be. The audience knows you are definitely taking a piss, as you say, with that moment. you just do but we know we know the christian we know the christian is a fan of a few things the new york met's and pizza chicago pan pizza right yeah the audience the audience will know you

oh too well um but but but like that shows killer yeah i heard i did hear it's really really good by the way i didn't want to talk about like taking things that we watched through one lens yeah and now understanding it with a different lens and watching again like i don't i don't i don't get anything from getting people to go back and watch a show that released over a month ago, but like, I'm really proud of that. And Paul American, right? Like, I don't know to what extent your audience has found Paul American on Max, but what we did, and Michael John Warren directed season one of that, and what we did there, I'm just so proud of. We would not have been the expected storytellers for Jake and Logan, obviously.

Right. But with what we made in the end, I think we're all so proud of it. And the audiences who have engaged with it, I think, have really loved it. And so, you know, I'm pushing that forever. Well, look, man, like I said, you, I mean, there's so many different things. And I'm not surprised that you said that there's going to be something really, the good one coming up, because that's usually what happens. I will you and I will will be talking and then I hear about the new project I'm like holy shit that's a good one I can't wait to hear I can't wait to see it and that eventually is going to happen it looks like this fall but Andrew I'm so excited again with everything that you're doing and I'm excited that I got a chance to talk to you here and we'll be we'll be chatting real soon love to see you Christian and and I'm just so happy to talk to you and connect any way that we can so thank you for having me wow all right ladies and

gentleman, Andrew Freed. We will talk to you guys really soon. Go check out all of Andrew's stuff. And look him up just to see all the damn credits that he's got. It's great. All right. Talk to you later. My perfect day has sand, salt, water, and friends. But my moderate to

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came out on my channel, which was very gracious to have a chance to do. And it's a phenomenal document. But I will say this, Andrew, the next time you need a technical assistant for another season of Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders, I'm available. I'm available to help you, my friend. You should have Andrew. You should have Andrew on your show. I would love to have Andrew on my show.

You're kidding. There's so much I would love to ask him. That was a great interview, man. He's great. I mean, I've known Andrew for such a lot. He's generally cares about you. That's great. He's one of my best friends in the world.

I've had him on, I mean, I've known. him the way like we talked about so we started doing stand up together long long time ago and then he helped you with the wd we stuff and all that stuff like just so many different things that andrew and i've been through together i told that story about the the jake paul boxing thing where i blew my shoulder out but i did very well in doing it that was at andrew's event so um anyway so thanks for watching to check it on make sure you check out andrew's stuff what we're going to do here is we can go over a few more stories and then we have the question that we're going to get to all them i'm talk to john already's going to know we had the interview so he's going to stick around we're

not going to we're going to make sure that we get to all the questions john's going to stay yeah we got 41 we got 41 so yeah then you want to say to john now the time to do it um show me what you got see we talked about the odyssey you know we've discussed that movie and that's going to be so many people's like most anticipated movie oh yeah and one of the things that we said was like like every single person you're an actor you're signing up to do this everybody's in it everybody why in the world wouldn't anybody want to do this so who would drop out of this i'll tell you who's going to drop out of somebody looking for their boat that's right my boat i cannot be unknown in this movie i'm doing my boat looking for his boat will no longer be in the odyssey

why is that um if i can close out all these tabs i'll make sure that i get okay cosmo jarvis drops out of the honesty following his breakout turn and shogun and following it up with warfare earlier this year rising star Cosmo Jervis sadly had to drop out of a key role actor was set to join the ensemble of the Odyssey which is in its final week of filming now Jarvis has had to drop out shortly before due to a scheduling conflict the actor's ready to starring the feature biopic young Stalin about the Russian dictator oh he sees he's playing Stalin oh shit prometheus and upgrade star Logan Marshall Green has reportedly stepped in to replace him in his role though details of this specific part are under wraps.

What is known is that Tehran is about to begin shooting our two weeks or so in the scenes. The actress believed to be playing sorceress, especially in the Nolan film. The project has been shooting in Morocco, Greece, Italy, Ireland, and Scotland, along with some shooting in it. Los Angeles. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. Yes.

Now, this is a question that if anybody interviews him, it's got to be the first thing. You got to ask him about, right? You got to say, hey, listen, tell me about the scheduling conflict. Because sometimes, sometimes it really is a scheduling conflict. Sometimes it's an excuse, right? Wait, are you telling me that people in Hollywood, don't tell you the full truth about stuff that's going all behind the season? Here we go.

Here we go. No, listen, I'm sad to hear this because I love Cosmo. I thought it was great in warfare earlier this year and, of course, Shogun. and I think it is a loss for the film and for his career, I think. That's the bigger thing. Yes. Yes.

So I have to believe that the producers of an independent film like Stalin were more than willing to give him space to be a part of that. But maybe he just felt like the role after it was all said, done wasn't creatively inspiring for him, wasn't going to do what he thought it was going to do for him. And he pulled out. Kind of like what you see. I don't know what Ed Scrain is.

doing it. I'm not going to spoil anything, but like Ed Scrain, why did you take that role? Like, considering what happens, why did you take that role? So there's certain actors that are that come up. They have to be very careful about what they choose to do and what they walk away from. So you hope that there was something that maybe it's a creative situation, not a, well, I'm going to be a lead here. So screw this being one of the other than I imagine. That to me, I have to believe that in this situation, the fact that he's a lead in, Stalin and it's like listen you cannot do this you just can't we just can't make it work it's like do do I give up this lead of this playing Stalin yeah to do a couple of scenes with nolan which I

definitely want to do I cannot do it I can't I'll lose this role plus probably making significantly more to be Stalin than what he's doing in normal because no one probably rightfully so can get a lot of people to do his things for true not the normal price that you would get these people for And he's probably bummed about it. I don't think that this is one of those things. I don't want to do this movie. Who says that about the Nolan movie? I don't know.

Who says that? Actors are crazy, dude. Actors are you know, actors are crazy. I know, but this wouldn't make sense to me. I actually do believe the scheduling thing here, and I believe that he is probably figure out everything that you can do, whether I have to go in my boat, I will be there.

No matter what, it's Nolan. But I don't know if he's going to happen. I got to talk to these independent producers who thought, well we'll just going to schedule this so it counters the production time of the odyssey like why would you do that to your actor right why would you do that to him it wouldn't it help you more if he was in the odyssey right that would promote your film a hundred percent so it probably it just that sucks um what do you guys make of it you think this is a bad move should you drop that of the stolom thing and do the nolan movie or shit happens put your thoughts in there let us know um i think that's good for stories today, man.

I mean, are there any big stories that we should really talk about? Missions exhausted. I'm not exhausted. It's just 75 tabs up, interview running, all these questions. It's just tomorrow we're going to have. I mean, you know. That's the other thing, is that the social embargo lifts on Superman tonight, which for some reason they're doing the press, I don't know how you got your thing, but the

LA and New York press screening is tomorrow. That's weird. Yeah. Ours is tonight. I just got my text from the publicist telling me what time I need to show up so I'm going to get myself a good seat. Right. Okay. Because I'm in like that with my people. But like, yeah, I don't know why you guys are tomorrow. Maybe they fear you all's reviews more than they fear people from the smaller cities. I doubt it. I don't know. I don't know what happened. I really don't. Normally it's like they just do it all at the same time. I have no clue.

Yeah, it is kind of weird. But whatever. So nonetheless, that drops the social drops then the review drops around the same time when I get out of seeing this thing. Tomorrow? Yeah, drops right around the same time. So I'm not hosting the show tomorrow. Mike,

your boy, Mike Kalinowski. Hey. And Roxy will be hosting the show. So it'll be a Superman Love Fest. I should come on that show. They should, they need a counterpoint. Hey,

I'll send you a link. Just don't, just don't film me for it. So, just don't build me. They don't want to show. They'll be upset. Roxy loves doing shows.

I love Roxy. I love Roxy to pieces. That's why I was so hurt when you said last week that people thought I was talking about Roxy. What about the thing is right now? I will never, in my entire life, say an ill word or a bad word about Roxy's drive. You actually texted me. So just to put this on the record, the thing you were talking about on that short that we did was not about Roxy and it was not about the real rejects. It was not about Roxy.

Oh, I thought that's what you said. It's not about Roxy. Oh, well, never mind. Okay. That's what I'm saying. All right, all right. Fair enough. I was wrong.

All right. Yeah, not about Roxy. Okay, okay. Again, I love Roxy. I think Roxy has got her heart always in the right place. And of course, her recent loss, my heart is broken for her. And I always think she comes from an open and honest place. And I never doubt her opinions or points of views.

And I never think she sells herself out a little bit for anybody. She's so her own person. Okay. That I love that about Rocks. So I would never say an ill word about her. All right. So we're going to get to the questions. You have 47 so far starting off the week.

Can Roxy might beat you? We'll see if that's the case. But 47 to start thus far. What is going on on the John Roker channel? Oh, hey, it's the John Roker channel. That's right. It's happening. That is what it's called starting probably Thursday morning.

We are officially going to become. I might have a blowout Wednesday night, final Outlaw Nation stream, maybe go live for four hours and just blow it all out, put the hat on and everything. But yeah, we're changing over. So the John Roker channel, YouTube.com, slash John Roka. says we'll have a geek buddies review of Jurassic World Rebirth coming out probably at 2 p.m. PT and our thoughts going into Superman you guys want to hear from Vogel on that then probably spill the tequila tomorrow i'll do my out of theater reaction tonight Jeff and i will probably try to

record a hot mic episode today or tomorrow morning for you all to have out and then we'll do another one on thursday as well then jett i way will be back this week at some point uh so it's a very busy week christian a lot going on on the channel love it fireworks fireworks lots of stuff okay so let's get to the questions of a few that were not registered by streamer, so I have them here. Tom Hanks is my favorite Jurassic Park since the original. Really fun. Okay, Tom. Tom liked. Tom. Okay, that was number one.

So, oh wow, quite a few that weren't registered. No film critic, Tom Hanks. Ralph! When you watch Once Upon a Time in Hollywood with Sam, are you going to tell her the real story of Shannon Tate or Blind Watch? She's going to go bonkers with the ending. Yeah, you know what? I don't know yet. Don't tell her.

I'm not going to tell her anything. Don't tell her about Sharon Tate. I'm not going to tell her a damn thing. I'm not going to see if she thinks the ending works or doesn't. Because I don't think it does. Okay. If you don't come in with the knowledge of Sharon Tate, I don't think the ending works.

I love that movie. I love that movie. I didn't think for the ending, yeah. What do you think about the sequel with Fincher and not Tarantino? I'm nervous. Yeah. That movie worked for me because of the Tarantino, flair right i i see fincher who love silences i see fincher going through tarentino's script

go i don't need that line right right right yeah i don't know we're going to say ralph follows it up i think hollywood might be the caprio's best acting how good of an actor do you have to be to play a failed actor can't wait for one battle after another i actually think that his best is is wolf of wall street i agree with you yeah wolf yeah he's so good in that That was in Revenant. I know they gave him the Oscar for Revenant, but I think he should have. I liked him in Revenant, but I think, I think Wolf of Wall Street was this, it's his best. This is one of my favorite movies of all time.

Yeah, I agree with you. Love that movie. Mark Long. He's departed either. He's fucking excellent. He's doing that too. That's the one that won me over for him. Like, because I always saw him as like, you know, the screaming kind of yelling.

Decapeo that I thought was fine. But then. Yeah. Wait, but DiCaprio, he really won me over and departed. That was when I was like, oh, this guy's one of my favorite. Okay, so Mark Long, this is my friend's car. He went to find you a tighter shirt. There isn't a tighter shirt.

We checked cinema's back with the Bayverse. I don't understand that. I don't understand that all either. I don't get that at all. Don't get high in sentence. This is my friend's car. He went to find you a tighter shirt. There isn't a tighter shirt.

We checked cinema's back. Sorry, Mark. That makes no sense. Bulldog, 31087. Did either of you guys catch the Rick and Morty appearance by Snig? and gun. Very meta and hilarious. I did see it and it was pretty good. Come on. Very funny. All right. You give a credit. You give that one credit. Of course, because they're in on it and Snyder's in on it. So I thought it was really funny.

As opposed to South Park having Spielwrig and Lucas rape Indiana Jones. They were more in on the joke. And that's clearly why they got together. That photo they took together a few months ago. Mad Sinister McCall. Beth Snyder says, Oh, oh. During Greg's interview, Roka kicked down the door and Jeff screamed surprise M. Roka put gun in a headlock while Jeff asked questions. I wonder if Jeff would actually, would you interview Gunn if you had the chance? A hundred percent.

Yeah. And 100 percent, just so I could ask him, listen, this is my opinion on this. What do you think? This is what I thought you were saying when you said this. Am I wrong? Explain it to me. Right. I would love to interview him.

Of course. But I wouldn't be like, oh, 12 year old Indian boy, that's funny. I wouldn't do that. Like I would actually have to ask him about why would you say that? you know that seems like an odd thing to say okay um well and then mad sinister says have sam react to old boy it's a great family film the original original yeah um okay so that's so right now actually john you you stand at 56 because those are seven that weren't registered people hate i guess yeah no it's good oh is it okay yeah we just i mean we just started so christ kreck hey guys hyped for

superman and dc's future i really do think that ajarre jona will get the role of wonder woman and i think Jensen Eccles will get the role of Batman. Just a feeling I have. Thanks. So Arjona, I'm with you. I agree. I think she's going to get it. Jensen Eccles, I think, is going to be in the running. I can't say whether or not he's going to be in it, though. But I don't think so.

What do you think, John? I don't think either one are going to be in it, unfortunately. I would love Ajor to be in it. Of course. I love Ajor. I think she's amazing. And so if Gun does put her in it, I'll be very happy. I just don't know if that's where they're going.

Jensen, I don't think that's going to happen. Jensen is a great TV actor. I don't think he's an on-camera. I'm sorry, theatrical actor fully. I don't know you want to hang things on. Did you watch the boys? I did, yeah, and I thought he was great. Are you going to hand Anthony Starr the lead of a movie?

Maybe. Would you give Bruce Willis a lead role in a movie in 1980? I would, yeah. But also, there's plenty of TV guys who've gotten Josh Lucas, Eric Banna, all TV guys did not make it happen on it. There's Anna, though. Eric Banna, he, he's one of those guys that he should have hit. He had that leading man thing.

His agents were terrible. The agent, listen, acting is just like the WWE. Yeah. Some people come along and they got all, I was watching old WCW stuff the other day. And I'm like, all these guys have the tools, the great body, decent promos, good work in the ring. Why weren't they bigger? Right. And that's the thing.

You just never know. Some people have to have that it, you know? It's true. Tim let you start with this one, John. Would you trust a Superman review from Eric Voss from New Rockstars? Yeah, why wouldn't I? Eric and I just recently followed each other on social media. And Jeff and I are trying to figure out a time to come on together to his show on new rock stars.

So yeah, why wouldn't I trust Eric? Why is there something like I should? I think basically from what you said earlier about the fact that he's one of those guys who gets invited to these things, really get super excited. I like Eric a lot. I've met him a few times. Yeah. I would not base. If I saw his thing first, I wouldn't be, oh, Eric liked it.

Eric likes a lot of things. And he likes a lot of things that he's, he's liked shows that I have not liked. He's liked things that I would. Oh, that's a little, he gets hyped up and he's excited. He's like, he's, he's genuine, 100% genuine. He's not, but I just don't think our taste line up because he seems to like more stuff than I do. So, so. So I'm familiar with his stuff.

So I can't, you know, I would be a nice guy. I don't know enough to question him, so I would just look at it and go, okay, cool. But it wouldn't affect my liking or not liking. But yeah, Eric's a great. Eric's really nice. Yeah, I like Eric. He's cool. Special Ed.

Roka has so many bad takes. It's got to be exhausting. I know it does. It doesn't it? But people keep watching. How come no one's watching you, special ed? I knew you were going there. He follows it up with Roka stumbles not to a good opinion once in a blue moon on an accident.

Why is he and Snyder such bitter old men? I don't know. Ask your mom. We were just there last. No, mom. You can't go to mom stuff. Come on. Come on. Jeff and I were just there talking to her about you.

She's very disappointed in what you've become special ed. She told me to tell you that. She's very disappointed in what you've become. John. I am two fly cam. If F1 is lucky, it hits 500 million, not a huge hit, Christian. Wow. You are incorrect.

For Apple standards, this is a very, this is a hit for Apple. Yes, absolutely. 100%. This is a massive hit for Apple. I'll say this. I tried to go all weekend. Like Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, and all the IMAX things were almost sold out here in San Diego.

It's shocking to me. It's a big hit. This is a big hit. Okay. Next one again. So right now we are at, for John, we are at 60. So I am two flying him. Says, Roque, I got a problem with you criticizing Gunn.

The issue is that you do it three times a week. The last few months, it's been two. consistent in my opinion. Oh, so what you're saying is, I want you to have your opinion and free speech. I just want to control how much you talk about stuff and your free speech. Oh, okay, I'm

too fine. You talk about the Seahawks every goddamn day and they suck nuts. So like, seriously, give me a break. Anyway, go ahead. Poo de Weenie. I live in a beach town in social and social. Oh, what is it? Social.

In SoCal. And Sean Gunn is legit my neighbor. Roker, you want me to deliver any of your message about James Tim? Poo the weenie. Tell him that he should do an interview with John Roker. I would pay so much money to watch that. Yeah, I would ask him, hey. Oh, Sean Gondon. How come you called out every other studio except WB when you were calling him? I asked him that. I asked him that. What did he say? I asked him. He said he was heated up and he wanted it and he didn't, he pretty much said like, you know, I was working under the vest.

You know, it's like he said, but he said he wouldn't mean to call you. Watch the clip. I put it out there too. And he was very honest. He was very honest. I actually really liked Sean Gunn and the interview that I have with him. He was a very open and honest guy. I liked him a lot.

Appreciate them. Yeah. I did ask him. It was one of the first questions I asked them. I'm going to call out WB on the strike line. Watch that clip. I definitely asked him. Yeah.

And I like this answer. You're asking. Yeah. The Richard's art. Richard's art became a YouTube member. Thank you, sir. Yeah. Luke told me it is, you know, you got over 500 members now.

It's great. We're trying to hit a thousand. That'd be great. So thank you. Cowboys fan agent, John, don't let Arloff talk you down for being you. I didn't talk you down from being you. He's never, just, listen, the reason we do the show is because both of us are, we East Coast boys. So we're going to give our opinions and disagree or not agree.

Never. Or agree. We're always going to give our truth and not try to stop the other one from telling the truth. But Cadillers, you comment here all the time, and I appreciate it. Three times a week, cowboy. fan you're on here and I appreciate but it's like that's one of the things though you can't say stuff like that it's like it's when you have a conversation if I was just like yeah sure yeah right you're everything you said yeah okay it's like no I know you long enough why do you say this and

you go well I say this because of this I'm like well I don't necessarily agree but okay understand what you're saying you can't have that conversation that's boring I thoroughly appreciate that you give me like a lead in to explain my position because I think that's great you got to have two points of you some people are going to agree with you some people are going to agree with me and somebody like I can agree with either one of us yeah um I have a quick story about I tell you my little one the who I have like you know she's pretty much like Sylvia Dante from the sopranos but dude I had but she did again this over the weekend she were sitting there playing uno and she kicked my ass her all the time but we're playing and my wife goes mezy you want yogurt and she's yeah I don't know and my wife goes what she'll get on And she goes, what did you say? And I said, she said she wants some yogurt. And so she looks at me and she goes, this guy gets it. And I start cracking up.

So much trouble, man. I know. I start cracking up. And my wife goes, you know, Masey, your dad's your biggest fan. And she goes, hey, MD, I dare you to super chat. I don't know who MD is. I don't know who MD. Oh, well, I was going to say my conscience, but that's a D.

Not sure. Not sure. I'm not sure. Be nice. I'm sorry. Be nice. He got you to, he got you to, he, he's part of that 65 right now. Thank you, special Ed. Ralph! Hey, 100%. We need a F1 and Days of Thunder crossover. Please, last two movies, stars, Cruz, and Pitt, call the movie F2 Rolling Thunder

one trillion dollar box. I am in. I'm in. I'm in. Absolutely in. No, no. One, true. trillion though that would be overperforming you're being ridiculous it should only make 600 uh look the jeff's been adamant that this is a stupid story that's never going to happen but uh listen we got a president who wants to boot a ufc main event on the front lawn of the white house anything is possible now so why not that's let's let's cross over days of thunder and f1 let's do it let's do it um speaking of ralph and alpichino i saw some clip on social media there must have been three four days ago it was

Scarface, right? Oh, yeah. So we didn't watch last night. Love that movie. I watched Scarface last night. Did you? Oh, yeah. I watched it last night. And I was like, three hours, almost later, I'm like, I regret nothing. Absolutely nothing. Steve, Stephen Bowers, excellent in that movie. He's excellent. Not always the strongest of actors, but he was excellent in Scarface. Excellent. You know, we had him on the Shmo's show back in the day.

I got to meet him at CBS one time. I talked about 15 minutes, just randomly on the set. He's such a great way. He is good. I think it was good and breaking bad also. Michael Baldwin. John, I don't know. I agree. Are you still my guy?

Should I be concerned because I didn't like All-Star Superman? No. Because it's a completely different person doing it. Again, I can't say this enough. Everyone should go in with an open mind. I'm going in with an open mind. If you like it, if it works for you, great. If it doesn't, it doesn't.

Let yourself naturally not like it or like it. It's just up to you, you know. All right. Special ed became a member, John. Look at that. Hey, look at that. Thank you, special. I'm just going to say this. This chat's coming after you, John, with no logic.

What do you expect? They love to hate the boisterous Latino. It's just in their DNA. Just in their DNA. I'm not sure. Commenter. All right, cool cash. What are the chances a Supergirl is in the post-credit scene?

One million percent. You think she's in the post-credit? I thought she was going to be in the end, but post-credit may probably make sense. Also, do we think Ultraman is Doomsday or Bizarro? You know, to you. Peace of love to you, yeah? No, and I don't want to guess.

I want to be surprised. I don't know who Ultraman is going. A lot of people thought it might be Supergirl in there. So I don't know. There's all kinds of guesses. I want to be surprised. You're going to know soon. This is from Sergio C.

Rokka's hilarious. Thank you. No. Perfect. Michael Baldwin, watching Ironheart. Rie said she had no resources, but if Stark and Wakanda won't give her money, why would anyone else?

She knows them. Well, that's the problem with the show is they don't take time to show her trying to get money from the Star Foundation or from Wakanda. And that scene was ridiculous. Oh, hey, Shuri, I need money. Like, of course you would do that. And you would exhaust what? I'd rather turn to crime than call Shuri and ask for help. Like, that doesn't make any sense.

I don't know. I kept saying a whole episode. Yeah. I can't even get into it. I was like that. That was one where I just, I dropped the video. and ran away from the comments. I was like, because people are asking too many questions.

I'm like, because there's a lot of questions you have to ask about the show. I love a lot of it. Like the show, don't ask, don't ask any questions about it. Just to eat it. So, you know, the other thing, by the way, John, you know, I put, I told you, I put up the, oh, yeah, I put up the pilot. I don't know if you watched it yet. But I put up the pilot.

It's almost a, and my goal was to try to get it to 10,000 views. What's it at? Grasping, it's at 9,800 views. Come on, people. So we're almost there. There are a lot of comments. I answered every comment back. If you haven't checked that graphic,

I'm because it's leading to, and we're almost done with the draft of my pilot that I'm writing right now. I'm actually meeting of my writing partner tomorrow. We are almost done with the first draft. Pretty excited about it. The goal, again, who don't know we're working on this pilot, the goal is that we're going to start.

We're going to do a Kickstarter. Get enough for the pilot. It's going to do the pilot. We get lucky. We'll do more. We'll do more. Maybe get a six episode season. Who knows.

but we are excited about this one and moving really moving forward she sent me the the past she did it i was so excited she really did a great job with it um so i'm excited to tell you guys more about it when we have the information um okay jm wonder brothers has always been filmmaker driven versus marvel is director for hire they weren't like that for a while marvel uh seeing the filmmaker leading the dc u is logical as he is the one constant project to project versus actors. Go ahead, John. That makes no sense for because Kevin Feige is the person who is consistent at Marvel going, uh, film to film. He sets the tone of the overall universe with James Gunn. He's got a point of view, but other filmmakers could come in who or think they're better than James

Gunn as filmmakers. And some of them are. I mean, you can tell me James Gunn has been to Luke LaGuardino, get out of here. And so you look at the situation. You go, well, how will these how excited would these filmmakers be to get notes from james gun so i think you run a bigger risk when you put someone like james gun in charge of a universe when you go with directors and things that nature it might be an issue going back and forth so but with figy there's a consistency there because he's the overall guy in charge and he's not trying to direct your movie he may be throwing in notes but he's not trying to direct your movie i think there's two different things uh crashing coyote you're not pointing on inconsistencies john you're i didn't say he doesn't say john but i assume he's you're

acting he'll no inconsistencies no if you don't like it you don't like it they're inconsistencies it's it's easy to i can easily give you like 20 of them but okay all right michael ballwood it seems like negative superman headlines get clicks i'm not a gun guy but i feel like this movie is under attack why is it gun i don't know i haven't said i haven't posted one thing that's an attack on superman the movie so i don't know who is attacking that superman movie and i don't know who he's talking about you know well i mean there have been you know obviously that they said they're going to do that there's that campaign that's kind of yeah and i retweeted that and said i am not in support of this bullshit this is dumb this retort of the snider versus nonsense i was like this is dumb

like he had his chance they've moved on they're never bringing him back to do to be in charge of dc again so what are you trying to do it's it's such wasted effort yeah i mean look we are in a spot right now with any movie of this i don't think fantastic four is going to get this kind of heat you know i still think that people are going to either feel like they'll still do still do the marvel thank marvel fantastic force probably thank god for superman because they're getting all the oh yeah they're getting all the hate and everything back you know that that it feels like it kind of like a last jett i think to where it's like this battle or star wars thing normally what they get um and but i will say there seems to really there's a lot of love for this too by the way it's a

yeah there is another one though i'm going to post my out of the theater reaction then i'm going to run away from the comments like whether i whether i love it i probably should too i won't you can't answer you you you you especially you can't win with this one it's like i'm going to go like i'm going to walk out i'm going to go i know it's the same thing i'm going to love it and i'm a dc chill if i if i if i don't like if i if i have criticisms then all i'm doing his nitpicking it's like you can't win you got to walk away from it and you just got to be honest and you got to say okay this is how i feel this is it walking away shut it down gone you have to because you you're there's there's too many people on the internet that are going to have a different opinion for you one way or another and that's that's the name of the game people just need to have a place to put their anger nowadays and wherever it's a long time though it's been like this for a long yeah yeah that's a good point uh Andrew Nathan how do you guys feel about WB DC paying influencers YouTubers to promote the film should movie go or see reviews as disingenuous and biased now when they're paying people to to promote the

I mean, are they doing like, you know, campaigns and stuff like things of that nature? Yeah. I don't know. And so I don't know the ins and outs of the particulars and what I mean. Yeah. But with like soups, like soups says WB content partner. So you know, I'm going to get a very biased point of view from soups. But at least he admits it.

At least he puts it out there. Like, there's a respect for that. But if you're trying to claim that you're an impartial person or objective person and then you do, you fawn all over the thing before. it even comes out, then I don't think you're objective. I think you've got something invested in it doing well. And so there's to me where I start to have questions, which is why we did that conversation, Jeff and I about influencers becoming critics. I'm sorry, critics becoming influencers because it seems to be starting to happen more and more, you know, because these people want

to keep access and they want to maintain access. Either A, because they're making money off that access, or B, they like the ego stroke of having that access for the right. own careers. Yeah, and I don't think though this is any different though, you know, than a lot. Like so I've been not seeing like a certain show and someone says, hey, there's a show on CBS coming out. Have you seen it? I haven't seen it yet, right? And like, well, you know, they want to promote it over the two. And then I'll watch it. And then I'll say, yeah, I promote this. It's fine. But normally for me, for me, this isn't for everybody. I probably wouldn't, if I didn't like the show before I would, I would say, look, here's the thing. Either not going to do

it or if I think it's fine. I'll say, okay, you know, I'll, I'm not going to be disingenuous about it. I'm going to say, okay, look, here's the thing. This shows coming out. It's got so on, so. I like this person, this and that. Here's the promotion of it. And then I'm not going to review it.

Right. If that's the case, if it's a show that I didn't really care about, it's like, I'll say, okay, sure, I'm not going to lie to people and tell them, you should watch. This is the best thing I've ever seen. I'll say, look, this is a fun show they're excited about. It's got something. You can always change your words and do things where you're not lying to the audience. You know, you could always do stuff like that.

So you wouldn't see the flash and say, this is the greatest superhero movie ever made. You guys should go watch it. Look at you. I know what you do. You're right. I'm right back there, taking a shot. I'm just saying.

Taking a shot of the guy. Don't tell me. He doesn't lie. Beagle studios, Christian, I love you. But for once, I agree with Roke. Hey. Gun being the center of Superman is too ego stroking for him. This should be about David, Rachel.

And I think it is, though, also. TikTok is all about them. I think they're everywhere. I think they're everywhere. And I think that if this movie is a hit, I think you're going to start to see James Gunn step back a little bit. I think he's been heavy lifting and the promoting. I think he's going to take a step back once.

I think he's doing the heavy lifting. What happens if it's not a hit? That's true. He's going to take the brunt. Cornswet and Brosnan are not going to take the hit if this thing does bad. He's going to take the hit. Yeah. I don't think it'll do bad, but you can't predict it now.

Like you said, Minecraft, no one saw 900 million coming from that. No one saw Foggai falling apart at the box office. And it is a good movie. Yeah, it was not bad. Hank Pim, Yeat has gone through the best current wrestler. When's the Goldberg thing? Is that this Saturday? Yeah, this Saturday.

Okay. To me, he's the most old school wrestler that when I'm growing up as a kid. He could have fit in during the golden era. He could have fought Harley Race. He's so old school. He's so old school. He's one of my favorites because, like,

he to me reminds me of like what they used to and he didn't really see a lot of interviews with them yeah no he's not like i understand now that the precedent's been set and you get people who are just on the just the curtain is just wide open and no one's even trying to pretend anything else is a tv show and their characters right they even refer i just watched christ fend bleats interview with ria rippley and she oh great yes constantly reviews to the character of the character up and they that's that's where the business is now gunger to me lives as Gunther, whether or not he does or not. Oh, yeah. I don't think he'd break character at all.

None of the same. He does. And The Undertaker was like that, too, for a very long time. For a long time. Yeah. He got bad when people would try to break it. So it's cool. Yeah. Parker, Haller, who says, when Man of Steel came out, it was trying to compete with Marvel. Marvel can't even be Marvel anymore. Thunderbolt's was good and lost money. Superman just has to beat itself. Right? Right now, I mean, it's also got to take some of that box of us away from Jurassic World. Yeah. Yeah.

It was trying to compete with Marvel. It's still trying to compete with Marvel. What world do you think you're living in? Fantastic Four is three weeks or two weeks away. Right. It is absolutely going to be competing with Marvel. I think what, yes, yes, you're right. But I also think what he means there is that the juggernaut that Marvel.

Oh, at the time? At the time. Yeah, but that's not what killed a man of steel in the long run. Even though it made $600-something million dollars, No. And I find it fascinating that people are like, no, it doesn't need to make that much in the six. I mean, Man of Steel made $674 million and Warner Brothers went into panic mode. And so, you know, this is the thing. And I know some people say that the landscape is different.

It's not, as I said, Deadpool and Wolverine can make a billion. Superman should be making a billion. No, I don't think it will, but it should be. If it's great and it's beloved, I think it could absolutely go to a billion. It's not that easy to make a billion dollars anymore. Not post-COVID. You're right. Yeah, it's not easy.

I mean, the Deadpool Wolverine thing had happened. And it's possible. That's why I don't agree with people when it says it's not possible. But like it's, it's not easy. I mean, look, Minecraft, we both thought might with the Meteoric rise that thing had. Oh, that's good. Nothing's hit a billion this year.

Nothing except the one, the one film in China, I believe, right? But nothing. Oh, right. Nothing that came out here has. I don't think Lilo and Stitch is, oh, there's the probably closest. Close. Yeah, double checks.

See what Lilo is Sitchie. I'm going to bet you it's like nine. 35 of I'm going to guess. Okay. Which is still a while's away before they can get to a billion. A-Sol, as a Mariners fan, I need to inform you, both of their playing the Yankees tomorrow. The man chasing judge for MVP is going to get a big dumper and he's a stripper booty with a bathing. Wow.

I know. That's a lot of content there. The Mets stupid Mets took two out of three from the Yankees. At least they didn't get swept. Yeah. Yanks, I don't know what's going on, man. My fourth, I went to my friend's birthday party. Everybody was a freaking Mets fan.

It was like, and they were, and they won that game by one. I mean, the day after they beat the piss out of them. But then, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're in trouble, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, let's see. This is the next. Hey, Parker Haller, if Superman makes over 800 million,

over 90% on rotten tomatoes, and a cinema score, will Rokka still say that gun shouldn't have directed it? When did I ever say you shouldn't have directed it? You did say that. No. Dude, you said it last week with me. He shouldn't have directed it? Yes, 1,000% you said that.

Dude, that's videotape. Yeah, somebody find the videotape. You said that you don't think he was the guy that he shouldn't have directed it to start. You absolutely said it. No, no. I don't know why I would ever say that. Someone's going to clip it out. No, no, no, someone clip it out.

And exactly, it has to be word for word, what Christian said. You said, you said, the idea that I said, gun should never. have directed to start to start it you to start this whole thing you said he shouldn't make sense to me that I would ever say that because I don't recall ever having an issue that he was all so people are going to comb through it now so I don't even have to ask just just tag tag us both on Twitter I'm totally admit yeah it's last week or the week prior but find it I remember I have a shit memory and I remember that very clear all right let's see next one is Hank Pimp yeah superman

a week i've been this excited for a movie since endgame well you go what is the most hype you've been for a movie and or biggest letdown of a movie who i mean i was pretty hyped up for force awakens i mean pretty hard to not you hyped up for that i mean i was hyped up um biggest letdown of a movie that that i saw that i was like oh that stinks or just like man i'm i'm sure i mean there's tons of i'm sure that i looked yeah i'd have to i'd have to go and look and be like oh man that was a real a real bummer i'll go all the way back to like the 2010s or something like league of extraordinary gentleman john connery's last film i thought it was going to be a bangor because i love that allan more graphic novel and that film was just i mean i mean i guess even even even

bbs is one too i would say maybe um super disappointing I said with Star Wars and say Last Jedi even though it was the second time I saw it, I kind of coolated myself and deliq. And I think the first time I said, I didn't even tweet about it. We were also tweeting about it. I don't know what I fell about it. Dude, the hype over Last Jedi. People forget. It was massive.

It was mass. The Force Awakens, I thought, was a damn good movie. Made it well over a billion dollars. The trailers for Last Jedi were amazing. People like Ronald Johnson. They handed him a trilogy before they came out. That even made people even more excited to see them. That apparently is still going to happen. That was my favorite thing.

that ever like that like this i can't tell you how many times it's happened with lucas film where they're like we're not doing this and then they that's like five seconds later they do it but this is my this just happened they go she goes we're no longer doing trilogies here's all the movies you got get two trilogies on there you got ryan johnson's trilogy and you got kinberg's trilogy you just said no trilogies what you're talking about what you just said it hell of it no trilogies what's that two trilogies well what does that mean that there's two trilogies oh okay what are you talking about doing we're not these are going to be standalone movies that may be characters from previous movies will show up in wait what let's bring it back let's bring it let's just do that again

when we've never done we never said that we never said that we never said that we've never said that's what are you talking about uh challenge it's okay to get upset about double speak i you're right it is guardians three with sam tomorrow the answer is it's being edited the question is i don't know if i'm going to drop it tomorrow i might drop it on wednesday but i don't because i have i have so much coming out tomorrow. I have um, I mean, it's possible I might drop it later on, but I mean, I don't even know I'm going to do that. I've got the Superman out of the theater dropping probably at like, uh, 2 p.m. Oh, or 12. No, wait, 12. I see it at 12. So yeah, I'll drop it at 12. So yeah, I'll drop it to drop it. It's going to be right. It's going to be like right when shoot,

it's going to be tough. I'm going to drop it out of the theater. Actually, while Roxy and Mike are on the air. Hmm. You know, so it's like that's going to be tough. And then I got it and then I'm coming back here. Um, I'm not sure if I'm going to drop it on Wednesday because then Friday we start Loki season two. Are you going to counter program on your own channel? I have to. I can't not post the out of the theater reaction. I'm going to see it like immediately and then I can post it.

And then it's just I might I might see if, man, it's going to have to be. It's like, it's going to be like three minutes. So you can watch the out of the theater and then you can go watch the live one. Mike Joyce, I don't have an issue at James Gunn's PR tour. Superman is the biggest is the beginning of the DCU. it makes sense they'd want to hype it up i don't think john for arguing that they want to hype it up i think that he's he's arguing that he doesn't he should be the one who's right sometimes i want to say this one like that

anyway don't say uh jim one interested to see how superman does outside the u s as the character historically isn't as big overseas as spider man batman xman could this change i i'm this is why i was arguing and try and i've been consistent in my argument that Jurassic world will be the biggest internationally because of that reason. I think that domestically, I think Superman is going to win domestic. I do now. I think that Fantastic Four will be right behind. I think it goes Superman, Fantastic for Jurassic.

And internationally, I think it goes Jurassic, Fantastic Four Superman international. Yeah, because I mean, Superman has always been seen as an intrinsically American character. Yeah. So whereas dinosaurs don't have an American connection or politics or anything like that. So I think that's at times what's kind of held Superman back a little bit. So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't do that well internationally. Mike Joyce, keep being you, Rooker. Don't let the gun bros get to you.

I don't. They really do think that affect me. 86 thus far, John. Hey, thank you. And you've got. And you've got it. Three weeks in a row of a hundred. We'll see.

Prout and Rudder, London calling. What's up, Chrome? Jurassic crush it. Some solid action sequences. with a mediocre movie, universal rolls in those dino dollars, support from the UK. That's the other we really discuss it. They're definitely going to make another one. I don't know.

Dude, are you kidding? You don't think they're going to make another Jurassic? If this one becomes a wet fart over the next two weeks and Peter's out, like, then I don't know if they'll make another one necessarily. We'll talk about it over our two steak dinners. You think it's going to

make $400 more million at the box off? It's a right, what, $3.15 right now? New 15. Yes. It's going to make, yes. Internationally, it's going to. Yes. Tye, I'm going mad dreaming of a pie of white zon top with meatballs and fresh garlic. That's pretty good, actually. What's your favorite pizza toppings? I actually, I'll tell you, two that I've been getting a lot here is a place over here, the barata slice with, with, they put the osomic vinegar on it. It's really freaking good. And, and then I'll get mushrooms. Sometimes.

I haven't had a pizza in three or four months nice I've now lost 40 pounds I'm down at 224 you you're at 274 I was a 264 holy shit yeah it's I mean some of the pictures I look at it myself just a few months ago discuss how much I had diluted myself that I was still okay it's pretty crazy but like yeah I'm happy where I'm at but dude pizza let me tell you my topic and a basic B I like pepperoni chicken green peppers black olives and mushrooms. That's my top. That's a lot of good. I was only, that's still.

When I do my cheats, that's what I do. I do pizza. When I get down to two, if I get down to 215, I'll start occasionally cheating. I ate like an asshole this weekend, though. I really did. For the July 4th weekend. What's wrong with that? I really did this weekend.

This weekend I kind of overdid it. And I went with the kids yesterday. And my little one has a real bad sweet tooth. We went to this place. We found a site place. or really, they really like it. And, and so we went there and I told, I told the woman to, to my little one, I said, give her one one one scoop because she's small, you know, she's right.

And I turned my back for a second. The woman cracks on two scoops. And the little one looked like she just struck gold. And I said, get back. And she's no chance. I was, it would get my hand bitten off. Yeah. It's not, you're not going home with this spasd out child.

I am. Right. It was, it was, it was early enough in the day. It wasn't at night. So it was like, I was like, okay. but normally yeah Doug developer I saw the wedding singer in 98's the one of my favorite adam sailing movie and 1985 felt so long so long ago it's true it was only 13 years in between right now I'm 37 at 13 years can feel like a flicker I was just thinking about this the other day

I was just thinking about this you feel time keeps going faster as you get older 1,000 percent I literally was just thinking about the very similar situation that when you saw a movie in like 1985 and there was a and it was based on like in it took place in 1975 it felt like years right it's like a movie today that came out in two that was set in 2015 it's like nothing right yeah right some of the songs they saw a song the other day that was it was just like 30 years old i mean get the hell out of here this thing's 30 years old yeah yeah uh tristan green roca's out of the theater it's my this is my prediction this will be his most viewed video on his channel all time.

Oh, it will be. I got 100%. 100%. It'll be your most viewed. This will be your most viewed thing that you've ever had. I don't think people care as much as you guys think people care. They're going to go just to tell you you're a fucking asshole. Oh, yeah. Well, fair, probably.

100%. You're this will be 100%. I have no life. I must insult yours. I'll tell you what normally, normally you're a professional. Take that gum and shove it in your asshole. I have to chew. It's part of the diet plan, but all right.

Come on, on the air? You know about it. Sometimes I, because if I get a sweet tooth, I got to put gum in it. So here's my top me viewed video. Is the Spider-Man Across the Spider-Ber spoiler review? 80,000 views on that. Okay. That's live or that's, there's two.

That was live, yes. Okay. The only one I've ever done that isn't live that was big was the Batman's, no, those are all spoiler reviews. Those are all live. So all my live stuff has gotten like. Yeah. So live, yeah, live you have the 80K. Yeah.

Yeah, the regular videos is tough. Oh, regular videos. You don't have any shorts on your channel? No, I'm about to start doing that with a person you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The best. He was at, he was at the great conversation. He's a great.

My video that is not live, my top video is not live was the Top Gun Maverick video I did, which is 58,000. Okay. Yeah, that's going, it'll, it's going to beat that. But Craven is my highest. out of theater, actually shocked the shit out of it, 52,000 on me. It'll beat that.

It's going to beat that. Really? Yes. Artem, maybe Gunn is putting himself at the center of Superman to protect actors if the movie bombs.

Remember what happened to actors after the last Jedi? X went into hiding and actors got all the hate. It's not a bad point, John. Not a bad point. If you're confident in your movie, why are you think you're doing?

What if he's also being a shield? You know, you don't think that that could be an option, that he's strength. Knowing what I know about him and his ego, there's no way I think he's doing. this because he wants to protect the actors. Okay. I think that's possible.

Okay. I think that's possible. Okay. Tyler. The feud, the farts. Make the announcement. Harlow Schmodan is coming back. First match is Roker versus Gunn. I mean, you're kidding. That would be, that would be a great way to bring it back. It was the only time, you know, James Gunn actually tweet,

there was something that we did. There was some clip from when we were doing, it was at the, it was during Titans, and there was something that we, some question that we had, and we tagged him on it. He retweeted it and he responded to it. Yeah, he did. He put it. It went up getting a lot of, a lot of views because he did that. But he, he saw the clip. He was aware of the Shmodown. But yeah, long time ago. Uh, 91. John, 91, currently. Yeah, 91. So just nine away from getting 100, three weeks in a row. There's Derek when you need him. I know. You got this without Derek. It's pretty impressive. I know. Thank you. Let's see. So again, thank you, Tyler.

Julius Wyatt. I can't believe Superman is actually here. Feels like that first trailer came out years ago with all the news. was drastic world rebirth is total crap. That's a different conversation. I don't disagree. Yeah, whether you think is good or not. I thought it was just generic, you know, that opening scene is atrocious. The first 20 minutes are atrocious. Come on, the Snickers bar thing.

Oh, yeah, the Snickers bar was stupid. It was atrocious. I couldn't believe it. I said, this is what we're in for. Thank God it didn't get that stupid. These are intelligent scientists, and he's going to sit there and go, oh, I just dropped the Snickers bar. It was so dumb.

It was so. dumb. That part of it. But look, the last two Jurassic World, I thought were atrocious before this. This is the best one, I think, since the first one. I have to disagree with you because the only reason I disagree with you is because I think the other

ones actually tried to do something, even though it was crazy and wacky with locusts or dinosaurs climbing on the roofs and shit. Like, at least I, or an auction for dinosaurs, at least it was crazy. Like, they were suing it for the fences. This is so simple. It's simple. It's generic.

Yeah, it's generic. It felt like Carith Edwards was tracing what Spielberg did in 93. I don't blame him for this movie, by the way. Oh, I really, if you sign on to direct a movie, you will take all the praise and the blame. That's how it goes. The reason why is I don't think that they hire, I think they hired him to just say, hey, this is what we want. Can you give this to us? And he said, sure. And that's what he gave them. I don't think that he, that he was asked to do anything except give them a generic movie. And that's what he did. I think he did the assignment. And I think he will be rewarded for it because this movie, who's going to make over $700 million and I'm going to have some stake.

Yeah, with Gary. Or it might cancel it out. It might cancel it on. I might owe you nothing. You might only be nothing. It would be great. Yeah. Tyler, Roker.

Be honest. There's no cameras. No one's there. Okay. You have access to Guns Office with a bottle of ford spray that the bottle is empty when you walk out. No way. I would never do that. That's, that's ridiculous.

Fart spray. Am I 12? I didn't love. Who do me? What I would do? I don't wish ill will on James Gunn. That's nonsense. Zeus Fleming.

How about them Blue Jays? Great chat, Jets. Please, no Blue Jay talking here, but that was very nice. Blue Jays and first? Oh, wow. That was very nice. Clay Titus. Hey, Roka, I really like that quote

about going through tough times on your show. Thank you for that, but you're still an inward hole, Jeff, an old man. Yeah. That's nice. Yeah, it was a quote. I saw it over the weekend. I think it was Dustin Rhodes who posted it, actually,

Christian. He said, for those you who are concerned about getting through tough times, and you're not sure if you can, look at your track record. You're undefeated getting through tough time so so you'll get through this one. And I thought that was amazing. It was so, so well written. It's simple, yet brilliant. J. McR.J. McR.J., on behalf of all of us YouTube chatters, I just want to thank you for all the work you put in over the years in regards to studying the human condition.

Thank you, RJ. I appreciate that. I have studied the human condition. And someone who uses an avatar and someone else's name for a movie, needs to have a lot of mental health going on. That was funny. That was funny. Come on. Give him credit. That was good. Nathan Drake. I'm excited more than him. That's hilarious. Nathan Drake. I know the Superman review Roka is looking forward to the most is

coy and the real reason. Well, Roxy give her review on tomorrow show. Of course. Oh, yeah, Roxie will give her thoughts on. Oh, is she seen it tonight as well? She already saw it. She saw it. Well, that's right. That's right. She went to that screening. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right.

But can't she do the review tomorrow? I thought it was in Bargo. The Bargo drops tomorrow. like around, I can tell exactly when the Oh yeah. Because the social bargo drops tonight. Let me double check. I'll tell you right. Okay. The social embargo drops at 9 o'clock

your time tonight. Right. Yes. So by the time you get out, you can drop yours. The review drops tomorrow at 3 p.m. my time. So 12 o'clock year time. So yeah, so she'll be able to talk about it.

Okay. Okay. Yeah, right around, an hour into the movie, she'll be able to do into the show. So they, you'll have to hold, when the reviews are in, they'll have to hold their main topic, because that's going to be the topic for tomorrow. Yeah, they're going to have to hold it until that time. So the Richard Art, Roka playing the Kryptonian heel. It's hilarious.

Do you guys know how to spell heel? It's with two ease. Jesus Christ. Thanos was right. What's your thoughts on Guns UK variety interviewed? What was it? Did you see it? I did not see it, but it can't.

another interview anyway I I movie where's David Corswitz interviews he's put maybe he's got a bunch too a bunch that I tell you I don't know if I did if I talked about I can't remember I talked about talked about this on my live stream or talked about it on this channel I mean the members live stream so we had an interview PLD right into you check your email check your email and I was okay and said hey would you be interested in having Nathan Philean. Oh, corn sweat,

Rosnahan, and Nicholas Holt. I said, I'll take all of them. Yeah, yeah. And Corrin Sweat was going to be in New York, doing your, so do it live. All of them. So like, okay, great, we'll be back in touch. I said, great.

This is going to be amazing for the channel. And in fact, I want to talk to them. We go by, nothing. And like, two weeks goes by, nothing. I'm like, what the hell's going on? I was like, they reached out to me. So I'm like, okay. So then I follow back up.

I was like, hey, just looking, you know, to follow back up. I'm very interested. Yeah. Ghosted. Nothing. Not a, not a peep. So I was like, all right. I guess that didn't, that didn't happen for me.

That happens. Whatever. I didn't care. Who cares? Go pal. My network's at Mike level today. But support. Thank.

Mike. I mean, that's, that's pretty bad. If you have mic levels. Oh, his internet? Yeah. Yeah. Nathan Drake, who says, you got to have Rok on tomorrow, please. I'm going to send him the stream as long as he doesn't charge me for it, you can join.

Yeah, it depends on the, but it depends on Roxy and Mike. I don't want to crash there. If they want me on, I will happily come on tomorrow. Let's see how you feel about the movie first. Oh, that's a fair moment. You know what I mean? Like maybe because it doesn't really make too much of a difference, but it's like, if Roxy can talk about it and then you guys can share your thoughts of the three

o'clock time once the embargo drops maybe maybe we have you come on rasha green has seen it has he what no cal isn't phoenix oh okay shragher hey christian did you know why john wasn't invited to mark riley's 50th birthday party john do you forgive mark i don't know i don't know it's a it's i was like i saw the video and i'm like you got finstock on there you've got snider on there but no one invites me to do a video for mark riley so i don't know someone in mark riley's fear must have an issue i know mark and I don't have an issue that I know of. So I don't know why that that went down the way it did. I mean, Rachel edited it.

Rachel and I, she's commented recently on social media posts that I've made. So I don't know what the issue is. I would have gladly come up for Riley's 50th. As my grandfather, who's a wise man always used to say, leave me out of it. Iberius monk. Hello, Christian and John, name a scene that you dislike in a DC film you otherwise like. Who?

Name a scene you like in a DC film. otherwise dislike stay awesome gents hope superman is awesome we need hope thank you to do you serious even seeing that you just like in the dc film you other words like what's what's a movie that i hate the joker scene in zach slatter's justice league even though i love that movie four hours i love that movie yeah that scene with the joker is just so useless in that movie yeah well the dark night rises i love i hate marian coatt yard death it's the word yeah It's the word. It's the word. It's the word.

It's so bad. I can't believe I seduced you just ended up here. Name a scene that you like and if DC film you'd otherwise dislike. I have to think which ones that I dislike. I think I'll go Suicide Squad. I do not like that movie. The Suicide Squad or Suicide Squad? Suicide Squad.

I like James Guns. Yeah, yeah. No, the first Suicide Squad, I didn't like the movie, but I loved the Batman scene. Oh, that's pretty good too. There's a few scenes in that movie that I'd feel the same way about. Let's see. Okay. Next one.

Let's see. And we're at 98, John. You're almost there. Close. Richard's Art. Are you guys fans of Concrete Blonde and or Wall of Voodoo there in Texas? I remember Concrete Blonde the 90s. They had a song called Joey that I really liked.

But that was by the only song I know from them. I feel like I have a few of songs, a few songs. but I'm not to call myself a fan, but I think that I'm not, not a fan. How about that? Special Ed. Are you going to the Kill Bill Whole Bloody Affair at the Vista? It's only screen twice ever.

It's showing for two weeks in the first week to say, wow, that's great. Nope. I mean, I won't be going, obviously. But, um, yeah. Wow. I don't know, man. I mean,

the way they're deporting people, I'm staying off the roads going into other places. I'm trying to. You keep saying that, but weren't you? How could you, how would that even happen to you? I'm trying because I'm the son of immigrants and they said over the weekend they're going to start looking at denaturalizing people who are in this country so if they denaturalize my mom who is a legal immigrant that went through all the channels then my citizenship is revoked isn't it so they could grab me yeah so you never know an international channel all right so let's say I'm from El Salvador here in the prison this Superman sucked let me tell you right

Wyatt, Andrew kind of looks like the warden and Shawshank. You know, who like, oh, yeah. Andrew Freed? Yeah, you know who he used to get all the time and he still gets it? Tom Seismore, he used to get it all the time. He actually, so much so that he ran into, and obviously the late great Tom Seismore. When he ran into Tom Seismore at a, it was at a drugstore. And he, and he, and he was talking.

He goes, he goes, people, he goes, people say I look like you. And, and Seismore looks at him. He goes, I can see. telling you i wasn't i wasn't lying at the end there Andrew has the most amazing stories like ever if you go back and look at the interview in the far back he has a picture of tyson with ali he took that picture wow he took that picture um and like he's got he yeah his stories

are incredible they're incredible i respect you with allie yeah he dude i don't know if he's to i don't want to he's got a mike tyson story oh all i'll say is this imagine that you're producing a show and Mike Tyson is screaming in your face. Just imagine. That's, that's all I can say. You make me look like an idiot. Because I don't want to, I don't want to tell the whole story because I don't,

I don't know the whole thing all the way through. Plus I'd let him tell it, but like, yeah, his stories are out of control. How much would you interview him? Oh, nice. I got close. I got close a few different times. I got close a few different times. Go pal, rebooted the modem in the rounder.

It looks like I'm back. Oh. And maybe so, because John has now two weeks in a row, 100, three weeks in a row, three weeks in a row, 100 plus. Look at that, starting in up 901, 101, actually. Rumors of your hate have been grossly exaggerated. No, I know. Tiberius Monk, hello again, I hope DC Studios goes with the Bat family and goes fantastic.

It's a great way to differentiate from Pattinson Batman. Thoughts? John doesn't like this. He's holding his head. I love, I love being a fellow comic book nerd with you guys. But you got to deal with the reality of the casuals. And the casuals are not going to go, man, bat, it's just not going to be the way to go. And I think people nowadays don't want to necessarily lose themselves in silly stuff, you know?

And so I don't know if that would work the bad. I don't know about it. But if that's, if it's silly and, yeah, I wouldn't want that either. Chris, Kossin. I hope that Jensen Eccles is in the running because I can see him as Bruce and as Batman. And most of the actors I'm seeing suggested by fans,

I can only see as Bruce or Batman. The duality is essential. I agree that. It's essential. But I'm telling you, you guys know my pick. I've been quiet on it recently because I don't want to keep overdoing it. But I do think there's another one in here that I like,

for me, my top three of these. Go ahead. Brandon Schooner is number one. Yes, he has one. Hartnett is number two. three is Jensen. Those are my three.

You know what I was watching over the weekend, which I got to finish the last two episodes today? Sandman. Oh, that guy? Tom Sturridge is an interesting choice for Batman. Because he's got that kind of Robert Pattinson energy, but in a different way. So he could be an interesting choice

where you kind of find that middle ground where he has that energy, but he's a little more of the James Gunn type of approach. So I like him as an actor. like that and that second season has been good so far go pal hot take banahawk isn't as bad as you think oh yes it is and that's pretty bad i'll tell you the part that i did like about it though they still like about it is when the thing with the tank oh yeah yeah yeah to me that was like classic hulk the stuff that i love but other than that the movie's a mess with i'm you i'm a hush i'm a i'm a hulk too yeah a teen wolf moment get out of here bad a teen wolf i must watch that last night

uh it's great it's where finstock originated people don't realize i think he from talk on the top of the man where it came from uh the irs is breathing down my neck like some kind of personal vendetta against bobby finstock the richards art regarding echoes i guess i see him more as a brother than a superhero billionaire get me either another comedic actor or an unknown but i mean i think that's the thing right is that even like where i will agree with john with What TV actors do, though, TV actors are kind of essentially, depending on what the show is, even though Supernatural ran for a very long time, that he's not a well-known name, like a super well-known name.

Like what I would say is like there's a huge supernatural fandom. There's a huge. And basically, if you said to people more so, who is that? You know, the guy from Supernatural. Oh, I know who that is. That's usually where you're going to get. his name, the recognizable to, I'm talking about the casual, not the Comic Con people, not the hardcore pop culture.

The average person walking on the street now, if I said, hey, do you know Jensen ankles is? They'd go, no, I go, the guy from Supernatural. Oh, yeah, I know who that is, as opposed to, you know, hey, do you know who that, who, we had, Roxie and I had this whole conversation last week about, Andrea Arjona. She said, she's, she's too big of, and she said, she didn't say she's too big of her name. She said, do you think that she's a bigger name than like, uh,

what Brosnahan was. And she's like, it goes away with the corn sweat. I think I see she's in the same area. No, I disagree. Because Brasnahan had both House of Cards and.

I'm saying she's bigger. Brazant is made it. So you're right. The lead of Andor. Right. It'd be different if she was the lead of Andor. Right. Yeah.

I'm with you. All right. Dalton LaPreech. Jurassic Park Review. Merse Holly looked cool in that beret. That's it. Yeah. Those characters were nothing.

There was nothing to those characters. Let's have a trauma bonding scene that goes nowhere. No one cares about your problems. Yeah. Your problems were, no one cares. Yeah. We had divorced.

Who is Maureen? Right. They're divorced. What's going on with the kid? I don't know the kid. The kid was alive. Who knows? He was a picture.

That's what he was. And then how, and I don't want to do it. There's something that happens at the end. Like, how did that happen? I just thought that they tried to. tell you that he cares about kids he's trying to save kids right he brought the kids to an island with dinosaurs right right he could have just like it he's gonna turn the boat around when a

logic dropped them off and then came back as john lovitz would say there's no logic here rqmd smd support for john i'm really enjoying the show today thanks guys thank you thank you always listen to the show on apple podcast you'd always listen to it on spotify and the clips channel tons of clips tons of uh poochute ryan roman rains as kranos in the got a war show take care Can he act? That's the major street fighter. Well, are we really going to find out? That's a fair part.

That cast is crazy. It's a crazy cast. That's a cast that's going to get high all the time or be involved in bar brawls all the time. It's a crazy cast. What's smart about that cast, though. Yeah. The promotion of that movie is going to be phenomenal. I mean, Andrew Schultz is going to promote it alone.

Oh, Schultz. But he's going to promote the shit out of that movie. He's con. I don't know. The thing with, if I'm a young actor getting into that position, I am going right up to 50 cent and I am becoming friends of 50 cent. And I am saying to him, please help me create an empire like you've built.

I want to learn everything. Right. Because that's what you do if you're a young actor on set with an actor like that. Yeah. It's a crazy cast. Chris Consent. Also, both ACLs and Arjona are very plugged into the fandom in general. If it's not them,

I trust Gunn since he's been consistent in great, and casting great talent. That you agree with. A hundred percent. I also agree that James Gunn directs the hell out of movies. He's a good to great director for those kinds of movies. Absolutely. No doubt.

No doubt. Andy Kumar. Have you ever met Joe Rogan? I'm assuming you're talking to me. Yes, many times. I used to perform at the comedy story with them all the time. I remember when I was when I was, it was when I just got made a regular there.

He came out to me. He goes, oh, I was punched in the face. I thought you were dang cook, is what he said to me. And, but no, I used. used to he's to go up he was gone of like 45 minutes to an hour and I used to remember a couple times I'd go up right after him but he was always very nice to me very nice to me I used to I used to see him at the start I saw him at the improv all the time he was very nice to me yeah cool um so yes I met him a handful of that Beto Beto power F1 cost 200 million might not

break 400 like we did there with the break it might be success to Apple only because they couldn't care less about money lost great visual though yeah but I don't know what the marketing was like I'm telling you that movie that movie is what it would it comes to Apple, I think that they measure success in a very different way. I love to know where you think they're not breaking, like what information you have better power, go, go try to get a ticket in an IMAX screening right now of F1. And let me know what they're, what it looks like, you know, and what city you're in. Because this thing is going to hold on and make money.

It may not, you know, I think it's going to do really well for what it is. You don't do 400. And the fact that it's already beaten in two weeks, it's already beaten everything Apple's put out ahead already. It's amazing. Yeah. Anything geeky. Ironheart sucked, in my opinion. It was like it was written in phase two before Iron Man 2. It undercut everything Tony went through, just bad writing.

I just didn't think the writing was great. And it seemed like they just kept repeating the same beats. I thought she was great. I thought the relationship she had with her AI was fantastic. I like that dynamic. That was the emotional stuff that weighed. I thought Anthony Ramos had a good arc for a bit and then it just

dropped. I thought that the last episode was great. Or the things that happened in the last episode with the character that appears it worked really well i thought that person was fantastic um but it was just it was just like there were a couple times i'm like let's go but he's he's such a good actor now that it felt like he was playing at the kitty's table right yeah no no uh oh who the person who shows up like if you've haven't seen disclaimer on apple tv with him and kate blanchette he's incredible in that series him and kevin klein and kate blanchett and so when he showed up I mean, he was like at the kiddies table at a family function.

He was just lobbing the balls back and forth, like easily. And that's the thing where I was like, wow, why would you take this role? I hope there's bigger. Remember, he probably accepted it also during the height of Marvel. That's true. So I hope it was right, because this has been delayed for quite a scene. They showed this trailer at D-23 in 2022. Yeah, that's true.

That's a good point. Who shoot Riot. Roka, I have a game suggestion. Check out, Claire. Expendition 33. It's a phenomenal turn-based RPG. Charlie Cox and Circus do voices in it. Oh, you got me with that. Okay. Yeah, I just finished Ghost of Sushima over the weekend.

Incredible game. I went off for like 10 minutes on it yesterday on my live stream. And it's just such a fucking great game. Sorry. Better call mall. What do you think about JJ Abrams returning to directing films? He directed the highest grossing film ever, but no one thinks he's great. You know what he does very well is he's great in setting things up.

He was. Mission of Possible three. Is it you that said it's your favorite? It's your favorite. It's in the top three for sure. Mission and it might be, I don't remember. It's somebody on this show's favorite. Maybe Kalanowski's. Maybe Kalanowski's.

Either way, he is very good at setting things up. He set up, then he direct the pilot for lost. I think he did. Yes. He's very good at settings of it. Force Awakens. He's not a great closer. He's a good starter. He's just not a good closer. He's going to give a solid six or seven innings. Right, right.

So I would I would I like to see what he what he does as but I don't know. I don't think he I don't and I don't mean to I don't mean this is going to sound mean and it's not supposed to. I just don't think he's as great as maybe the people behind him expect us to believe he is. You know what I mean? He's kind of promoted as like this Spielbergian type guy and he's not in that category. He's just not. He's very good at making movies and fun movies.

But he's not he's not in that. He's not in that category. He's not even close. Yeah, he's good at making those kinds of films. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And look, his Star Trek was damn good as well, the 2009 Star Trek. Again, great beginning, but then into darkness wasn't as strong. And so, yeah, he's not the best closer.

But he said, damn, I even like Super, I'll defend Super 8. I wanted to love Super 8. I want to see that movie wanting to love it and left going, eh. You know what? You know what? I wanted to feel about Super 8 the way I felt about Stranger Things the first time I saw. Oh, good point.

Larry Lordwitz proud Snyder bro here I'm very excited going tomorrow I can't wait I need a live action Superman in my life

hopefully gun can unite the fandom eventually I mean that's the match I love that comment by that and that is what Kalanowski is right Kalanowski people don't realize

Kalinsky was a huge defender of the of the Snyder yes huge he just over people bitchamized like it's gone we don't have it anymore now you got to go with the new thing you're DC Finn

or are you just the Snyder fan You got to be, if you want DC to continue on, this is who's leading the team right now. So you got to support the team. Well, I don't know if you got to support the team. You got to see what the result is and then see if you want to keep supporting the team. But you should give the manager a chance. That's what I mean. And the big of all season.

Look, I mean, I don't like you. I don't like your lineup. I don't know if your lineup's going to win championships. But if the first game, people are hitting home runs left and right. And they win by 15 points. You go, okay, look, maybe this guy put together a good team. Yeah. Terrence F.

I'm not sure why people don't get it. You can't not like guns approach with the marketing and still be hopeful that the movie is great or enjoyable. What? Let's see if that's true. You can't not like his approach with the marketing. Still be hopeful that the movie is great or enjoyable. He's saying that you can't, you can't not like his approach with the marketing and still be helpful. He's saying you can't.

I don't know that's true. John's still hopeful. He doesn't like his approach for the marketing, but he still hopes. it's going to be good. I think that... Sometimes you don't like the way your dad does thing. You still hope your dad does the right thing and that you enjoy what your dad is doing, don't you?

I mean, like, I always bring it back to family with this kind of stuff. People say, oh, you can't criticize this because then you hate this thing. It's like, no, you criticize your family members, your friends all the time. Do you hate them? Like, it's just like, it's so dumb.

So the thing was, look at it. Of course you can criticize someone's approach and then go in and you like the movie. Charlie Chaplin was the biggest a-hole in Hollywood, and he delivered some of the most profound film ever made. John Ford was an utter prick to people on sets and only John Wayne liked him and when he wasn't fighting with him in Fistikovs and they delivered some of the greatest Westerns. So it is nonsense to say that you have a problem with someone in the lead up and promotion to their

movie and that you can't go in open-minded. That's a limited in your, that's a limited brain who thinks that. All right. Let's say this is the next one here, which I got to play because I was like, We haven't done this in quite a while. Where is it? On, um, oh, here you go.

Poot shoot riot. Big balls versus Grande balls about gun. No. Come on, man. Come on, man. You got to,

you got to do grande. Where's Grande at? Come on, man. Where are you at? Is this grandi? No. I don't know.

Uh-oh. Black background. Oh, fine. I'll take it. Where are you? No, you idiot? That's a robot.

That's a stupid ass robot. It's the top right all the way up. Is this it? No, that's the top right. Hey, Ball. No, you suck at this. You bad as I are. You go to the top right.

It's the top right all the way. Come on. That's all I have. Oh, my God. You make me sick. I don't think I have it. It looks like Grandet balls. He's gone.

Can't hang. Can't hang. If you have that, setting go up right there two more go one go one up and then one more up is this one it oh is it too late now

how it's too late now uh no no no those pelots are grandes it was good but we gotta we gotta get a uh an animation of them hey guys I know it's your job is to kind of track box office numbers average moviegoers

S GIF what's that what's SGAF shouldn't give a F okay to be honest as long as soups and F we're both good sequels. Well, no, that doesn't work that way, unfortunately. If they're both a good, you don't get sequels, that's actually not true at all. Underbolt's about their sequel. Yeah, but it actually doesn't, that's not, it's not true, unfortunately. Um, people always say that and I disagree. I look, I love Snyder. I disagree with

him so much when he says, don't worry about budgets, don't worry about this. It's the silliest thing anyone could say if you care about these movies because of what they put into it. If you really want to see more of them, you should absolutely care because sometimes you're a black Adam fan, right? If you're a black Adam fan, right? If you're a black Adam fan, right? If you're a Black Adam fan. That movie, by the way, it made $400 million. Yeah. Cost $120 million, you'd be getting the sequel to Black, probably. You would. You would have made almost 450 million or whatever, or almost 400, whatever it made. You would have been getting a sequel. But no, because it just broke even or lost money, you ain't seen nothing. But as far as the average

movie goers, they're not paying attention to the numbers the way we are. Correct. But it does matter how they do, because you're either going to get sequel based off a profit or not. Yeah, people get motivated when they see big box office numbers to go see a movie. So it does matter. It does affect it. It does. Yeah. Okay, John, you're at 115, my friend. Pretty good.

The Richards Art. Here's the deal. Full throttle. You're absolutely right. Gun is banking everything on himself and his team. Let's ride. Yeah, he is. We're going to see how that's going to work.

You don't found that clip yet of me saying he shouldn't direct. Someone's going to find it and they're going to play. Yeah. I'm checking to Brooklyn. Constantly. See it. Broker. You know, one of the things that you might even, if you go to the clips channel, it might be on the clips channel,

are easier, fine on the clips channel. Dr. Brooklyn, Roka, since you're out there splitting moms on the regular, will you split mine possibly fall in love with her and be my stepfather? By the way, she just be. That is great. That's amazing. No, I'm taking, unfortunately. I'm taken, fortunately.

So, unfortunately, for you, I am taken. Dr. Brooklyn. McClellan. C.C. So, John. Just wanted to clear up the Neil Drunkbin hate. It's three main reasons. Okay.

I guess he's going to give us a little more. Yeah, about 117 right. I hear you're following up here. One, Gamergate. Gamergate was an initiative to better represent lemon in video games and stop over sexualized women, I think he meant. Stop over sexualizing them. Neil was a huge advocate. Two, killing off Gryfter's favorite dad.

He killed Joel. To me, it was painful to see, but the game never had been as good and get over a 300 game of the year wins. Three, Jewish. He was neutral on the Israel. situation and called out both sides. Why would you get a couple of that? He figures up. Neil got into Naughty Dog as an intern and rose to

become studio head and creative lead. Not a while is a top two development next to rock star, so I don't understand how people can be so wild just because of his opinions and story choices. Yeah, I agree. I don't know much about all that stuff with Neil, because a lot of people expressed how much they didn't like him in the gaming community, but clearly,

gaming community is just as crazy toxic as the film community or sports community. It's surprising to see that. But yeah, I mean, yeah, thanks for clearing that up, man. I had no idea. Sparky, I never said Gunn shouldn't have directed. I'm a very consistent person. I study the human condition.

I do study the human condition. How do you think I messed with so many people in the Schmo down to get them to deliver some of their worst games against me? It's because I know how to mess with people. That's right. Noah S. Gun's the biggest name on this film. No, duh, he's going to do a lot of the promo. No, duh, I'm an adult. No, duh.

How do you know that he's not going to say something nice about you in a second? Go ahead, read it. I'm a study of the human condition. I tell you, he's not going to say something like that. He's the biggest name in this film. No, duh, he's going to be on doing a lot of promo. It's more likely people watch it. They know it's his film.

But the stars are also all over the promo. I don't know why Rokka's acting like they aren't, but Rokka's a very nice person. I like it. No, duh. uh no he you you've barely seen them you know wait wait wait wait oh it's more not hating by the way i love to see see he went out your shit on poor no he didn't do anything to you just i don't say no duh that's like it's a 10 year old exactly the richard art yeah i also see the lock of

confidence disney has in their IP acquisition said until further notice what next confident in which which which which which which which which which acquisition like which which which one marvel is it marvell i don't know which one you mean they have a they have quite a few ip yeah yeah you got to be specific on that richard yeah the badass times Jurassic will pass 500 before the weekend math you think he's going to make 200 million dollars this week no he's not saying he said 500 before the weekend I don't I don't know I mean I don't know if it's going to make another 200 but within that week but it's it's definitely going to make 700. If it makes

700, I'm flying to San Diego. I'm just talking to. I'm not paying for that. I'll pay for this. No, you're getting for the steak. That's fine. The richard's art. Are you going to go to the Critish Choice Awards? I'm not going, I told you, I'm not leaving the house. Yeah, even in the richard's art. I'm down right now to

230. I ate pizza of pineapple and your mom. Oh, there is. Eric. Eric Lane. Christian, why did Sam do a reaction to this Christmas special, but not Werewolf by Night. That's easy to answer.

Easy to answer. The Christmas special is stoics. No way. Christmas special was awesome. First of all, she loved it, by the way. Weirwled by night was really enjoyable. And Roca, hashtag, righty's hell. I let me ask. Hail. So easy. First of all, we are, we got lucky. We're in Superman Week and James Gunn is, you know, right now

people are talking about them. And we just happen to line up and do Christmas special, which leads into Guardians Three. We haven't line up. You scheduled it for a way. I swear you. I I swear to you, we didn't. I swear to you didn't. No, because of the way that, uh, it was a happy accident. I promise. I'm not, definitely not bullshit. James, whatever you say, James. Yeah, exactly. No, also because of Ironheart, Ironheart actually pushed it had it not been for our iron, I didn't mean to say that.

Oh, my. You're in trouble now. No, you know, but I push it. It was supposed to happen. We were supposed to say last week. Yeah. Um, but we didn't. So anyway, so Guardians leads into Guardians 3B, you have to find out what the character's doing in in between. we're going to wait until Halloween. It leads into nothing. It leads into absolutely nothing. So we will be. I like it. I like it a lot.

Yeah. I really do. Michael Jekino did great job. All right. Eight minutes left for John and we are ready at right now. 121. Wow. Hank Pim would have can't be getting the card trade.

Meaning Chris Carr is on the show on Wednesdays now. It doesn't work like that. Zeus Fleming. I haven't seen. And she was available. She was available. Dude Fleming. I haven't seen a Jurassic movie since the second Pratt movie.

There seems so redundant. Yeah. But I'm not their audience. Their fans eat this crap up. I'm no better with my love to Marvel. Yeah. That's what it is, though. Yeah.

The dinosaur, people want to see dinosaurs. I said it in my reaction. I said, look, I have seen all of these movies. I have liked two of them. Yeah. I will go and see the next one with no problem. I like, I don't know why. Every single time, I'm not, I'm not going like,

oh, there's another giraffe. movie I can't wait and but I'm always like I want to see it I don't know why it has it has that magic sauce for some reason yeah uh okay 122 for John now as Tyler says you you're there gun is in office bar and we did that one already yeah no Tyler no he's not gonna do it special ed what would you do if you walked into a bar and saw your good friend standing there getting pummeled I mean like as as as far as him getting ass kicked well I'd probably jump in I imagine I mean I assume that's that's happened for yeah um Put-Cute Riot.

Rocha, I appreciate you being on for so long. 200 plus. 200 plus? Yeah, I mean, two hours plus. Oh, yeah. John and I spoke about it to. And he was very, I told him we were going to put Andrew's interview on and he was,

he was cool to be on. Brian O'Neill. Is Pedro Viscall the new Sean Bean? He dies and everything. Game of Thrones, Last of Us, Kingsman 2, Gladiator 2. I bet Reed dies in either Avengers, Doom Day Secret Wars.

Maybe he does. He does like to get crapped out. Yeah. He does like to get crapped out. Yeah. I have a word. The Richards art. I'm wrong. You're you are healing Superman. You're not a heal, Roca. Oh, there you go. What is it again? He misspelled it wrong the first time. You're healing and then he spelled and then he couldn't get my name fully right. It's one extra

vowel. Just put that A there. You get it. I think you say you're healing it. You're healing it. You're not getting out of it. Rish Rishi Shukla. Thank you. Rishi, very kind. You agree with Roka. Gunn loves the intention. He can't help himself. Also, Roka, I love you, man. But you always underestimate international box office always interesting thoracic world can get to 700 without a single additional domestic dollar dominion made 625 international and it sucked yeah but dominion was the end of a trilogy this is this is like bumbleby and transformers this is again this is hobbs and shaw this is this is in the canon just like hobbs and shaw and bumbleby are but they're not but it's not with the returning situation going on with everybody so it's it's not going to be as big of a draw

tell them we'll see chrome wrote ragu love the content guys i was recently watching law and order with vincent and i noticed young christian looking a young vincentonofio oh i don't know if i ever got that before but i'll i'll take it i like vincenton yeah put shoot riot bennessa uh forgot forgot dawn of the dead was written by gun i know it was and then i keep forgetting he did the scooby-doo movies too right that's great Monica, yeah, really enjoyed F1. I was worried about the runtime, thought I'd be bored. Nah, that movie's impossible to be bored.

It's just like pure adrenaline. But I ended up loving it. Seeing Jurassic later, but y'all got me worried. Fun show today. I've been cracking up the whole time. Good. I love hearing that. I love hearing.

I saw someone on The Ringer be like, you guys, you didn't like Jurassic World because you guys just don't know how to have fun. It's like everyone's having fun at F1. Everyone's having fun at how to train your dragon. And everyone's having fun at Lilo and Stitch. So cut it out. That's a lazy excuse. Uh,

Rashad Green, support for Roka. There you go. Brian O'Neill, who says, ever seen the film intermission, starts Colin Farrell and Killingh Murphy before there are stars? I don't think so.

Highly recommend if you like Irish humor, like in Bruch. No, I never seen, I never, have you? No, I'm surprised you haven't usually know all that stuff. That's true, it's true. Javier,

support for the outlaw. Thank you, Javier for not being a crab in a bucket, brother. Appreciate the love. Who shoot riot? RIPA, Julian McMahon,

I read that over the weekend. Yeah. That's terrible. I didn't realize that he was sick. Yeah, cancer. Nobody did. It was a quiet battle with cancer. Absolutely terrible.

I saw someone post it, and I thought they were being an a-hole about like the Dr. Doom thing, whatever. And then I was like, oh, my God. It was horrible, horrible. Horrible. I really loved, I like Julian McMan, Alone Phoenix. Who's brus stung up the mics of Clyder? We will never know.

You know that whole thing? No. Is that something you said? But I, I'm going to, I can tell you who it is, but it would just be a guess. If you want to guess, you can go ahead. I guess, but like, but there, no, across from the way where Rocks used to sit, she used to like this. And it was bad. It was bad, but we don't know who it was.

Putshut. Isn't Act was already Batman in the animated movies? Yeah, I believe he is. I believe he is. Okay. Zeus, Fleming. Andrew Coeur's played, Frank Ryju was great. He was great as the leading warrior, made a great storm shadow.

There you go. Yeah. Andrew Koji is a good actor. I was excited to see. Special Ed. I would you rather live in Los Feliz or Silver Lake, probably Silver Lake. Yeah, I'd have to say Silver Lake as well. Better restaurants.

Richard Art, Sideburn, Dane Cook. Yep. Yeah, it was funny. I laugh pretty hard when he said it. Legend MM600. Great, great fit. Love you guys. Thank you.

Appreciate that. A couple left here. Special Ed. My favorite comics are Big J. and Dan Soder. How about you? All time? George Carlin, Bill Hicks, and Robin Williams.

I agree with all that. Yeah. And Eddie. And Eddie. Eric Kirby. Roka, the game talked about earlier also deals with mental heads. health issues very well. Oh, that's great. Okay, I'll play it. I am a study of the human condition, so I was playing. Food Shoot Ryan. Roke, you got to do a live show reaction after

soups. Probably right. Yeah, do you think? Go live tonight? 100%. As soon as that, as soon as that embargo drops, you should go live. Oh, wait. A review or reaction? Well, he's just talking about, yeah, your thoughts on the moment. You do a full-on Superman thing by yourself. You don't need anybody else on it. You do by yourself, guarantee it. mean tonight i was getting you know no no you can do you can do a reaction but yeah you you can't go tomorrow is where you really have to go right yeah yeah yeah i would you're out of the theater today tyler narratives change or forgotten over time i was an earlier defender of man of steel was mostly disliked when it came out probably due to marvel's lighter tone that's probably true also

i love man of steel i'll defend man of steel till i'm dead busy be i love busyby uh in a time when authenticity is lacking in the space i just wanted to thank that both you were sticking to your opinions regardless of backlash. Thank you, busy, B. I really appreciate that. I think that's why we're not paid to do it. Right. Ryan Ferris finally saw F1 this weekend. Following up on the crossover talk from last week, I think I had the best title, F1, Years of Thunder.

Please, I like that. I love that. I like it a lot. Ryan, also, Carrie Cunton said clutching at Strauss and F1 is that the UK version of grasping at Strauss. I don't know. Was the lies in it? The Irish version. I hope that if everybody hasn't seen it already, please go and check it out. I was really

happy to show everybody. Anthony Star would be a perfect reverse flash says Nick Alexander that would be interesting no okay uh busy busy support for the stream pure entertainment today thank you busy terence f sorry typo i was saying you can disagree with how gun dc is marketing but still be hopeful oh okay well that that we we agree with you too we agree with the rich is art i also want to support all the moms out there that are not getting called out in jokes hashtag two kugur don't play amazing i bet you want to support all the moms oh stop it Javier reyes has sam seen the durasic Park movies i think she's seen one or two of them but not more than that i start watching them

with sadie nobody nobody really cared about the dress where we just stopped we watched the first one is it nobody cares we did a dilly 10 000 we said that's the end of this all right talking of this john we're done you did it um you did it we got there you're at one 26 my friend oh not a bad star pretty good rocks you and michael destroy it tomorrow but you gotta get the hell out here so tell us yeah thanks guys you come hang out hear more of the stuff we got talking about but he's coming in about uh 30 minutes It's the new geek buddy show. Me and Mike Vogel and Shannon talk about Jurassic World Rebirth and the Superman stuff,

how we're looking forward to the week and what's all going to go down. So come and join us for that. My Superman out of the theater reaction tonight. And then tomorrow, of course, reviews and everything going on there. It's Bill the Tiki. Thank you so much, Chris Ramion on at the Roka says YouTube. com slash John Roker says, peace, everybody. Bye.

Thank you, guys. Thank you to John Roker for being here. As I said to you, please, we're trying so hard to get that grasping its draws to 10,000 views. It's almost there already. It's like we shot it back. 2007 just to show you guys we're putting in so much work so much time into getting this new script off the ground we are going to eventually do a kick starter for it to shoot it if you guys want to see it hopefully it's something you want to do um but go and check out grasping in straws

apple podcast Spotify anywhere podcasts are found thank you to john roka thank you to andrew fried for doing the show here today thank you to all of you guys appreciate it i'll have i will not be on the show tomorrow it's going to be roxy and mike the first reviews for and reactions for Superman will definitely be the topic one of my reactions my reaction to my reaction will be out tomorrow so make sure you check that out um and then yeah i'll have my review and all that and more i'm waiting to see when we're going to put guardians three out i think that i might wait until wednesday because there's going to be so much superman stuff tomorrow but that's it thank you guys so much for being here again thank you to everybody appreciate you guys

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