The Kristian Harloff Show - Katee Sackhoff INTERVIEW Katee talks new podcast and if she has spoke to Filoni and Favreau.

Episode Date: May 8, 2024

Katee Sackhoff is Bo Katan on The Mandalorian. Has she spoken to Filoni and Favreau yet? What is happening with her podcast? She has some great guests lined up. We discuss the show, Mik e Tyson, streaming and more.

How's it going, everybody? Special Wednesday episode, man, of the big thing. You saw it on the thumbnail, and you knew right away. I can't tease it. I got Katie Sackoff on the show. So proof, we don't hate each other. It's truth. We are going to do a show here today.

We're going to have a talk, and I'm going to let her have it. No, of course not. We're going to bullshit. We're going to see everything that's going on. She's got her show going on. It's now the Sackoff show. So we're going to talk about all the stuff. She already has a bunch of interviews going on with that channel and a bunch of new.

She has a really cool strategy about it. So we're talking about that. We'll even get a little dive deepy and peek behind the curtain of us working together and all this stuff that we did. And we'll see what's going on in general with her. So if you're brand new to this channel, you've never been here before. Subscribe, man, hit that button. We are approaching 150,000 subscribers. We're getting close.

So if you guys hit that button, you'll get us even closer. So Apple Podcast, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found. That's what it is, man. It's the big thing. It's me and Katie. Let's do it. Hold on, everybody. Welcome back.

It is the big thing. It is myself and my special guest for today. Katie Sackoff. Hi, Katie. So you don't hate me, right? Bye, you do. I know. I figure it as much.

So now we have, this is why, but this is why we said before we started shooting, why we needed Robin. See, if you, if you're listening on audio, it sounds like Katie's coming from an alley. Sounds like dog shit. It's like, sure.

I think she said she didn't hate me. I'm sure. I should have put my ear buds in, or at least that would have been better. So here's the funny thing. You could still do. Go ahead. We're not live.

Watch this. I'm going to do magic. Here we go. Okay. So I got, and the sound is good. Listen to this. They used the magic, and just like that, it worked. Perfect.

Amazing. And now we're good. Now we're good. Hello. How are you? I'm good. You know. Hanging in there.

Every day above ground is a good day. Perfect. So let's start. Let's start with. It's a real low bar over here, Christian. Well, it's going to get better. I can tell you. I'm telling you.

I know because you know why? Because you know why? Because the aliens are coming, Katie. that's why. That's why. Oh, fuck me. UFOs and the aliens are coming. And that's this, I sabotage you.

This whole show is going to be about the UAPs. Did you know that? I don't even know what UAP means. Why would you? Wait, UAP, unidentified. Aerial phenomena. Alien. Aerial, aerial.

Flying around this guy. What is that? I would have said unidentified alien peoples. Still accurate. Wait, phenomenon. F was the last one. F. F.

wait uap you said yeah phenomenon is an f you need sleep girl i'm tired i know oh god um yeah so we're back so let's let's let's talk about the show because let's talk about the show yeah so the first thing is so as i said up top because every every single time people people ask me the day like so why did you and katie have a falling out i'm like i'm like you have a big falling out really dead I said, look, I said, here's the thing. We talked about it when we started the show in general was that you wanted to do a video show. I said, let's do a video show. We can do some YouTube stuff and we'll do the YouTube thing.

And then you moved to Oregon. And you said it's going to getting harder and harder to do video. And it's harder for me to come out and interview these guests and video. It's going to be a lot easier if I can just take a microphone and walk around and interview these people. I want to do audio. And I said, what the hell you need me for? And you're like, true, let's just let's be friends. And we've had that conversation before.

So there we go. It's true. I mean, that's basically what happened. You know, it was one of those things where, you know, between the move to Oregon, our daughter's health. Yeah. And just life in general, it got really hard to fly to L.A. and have to be in the studio. You know what I mean? And everyone's like, well, you're, you know, you're, you're doing the interviews in person now. And I'm like, yeah, but it's not in studio.

If someone shows up an hour late or if my flight's delayed and I'm three hours late, I still just walk into Kevin Smith's house, knock on the door and say, I'm here now. You want to do it? Right. It's great. It's not a production. It's a not. of production. It's a lot easier to, to, it's just more malleable. Yeah. And it makes more sense,

you know, and and it's just, it's a, it's a different audience. You know this. Like, it's like, you know, the, that I have found, the people who listen to podcasts are not necessarily the same people that are watching a YouTube interview show. It's very different. Right. So trying to hold on to the YouTube audience and make sure that they're satisfied and they don't, feel short-changed is is the goal is that's the difficulty you know I don't want to disappoint those people either right but at the same time that's way it but at the same time it's like you know I have to do what's best for myself and my family and and you know it was just this was the choice yeah and and totally understood

and then you know I watch as I'm watching from afar I was like oh so because I was I was lucky enough to be in the room for the the Mingna episode. I was in the room for the Trisha episode. You've dropped both of those now. They're both on the channel and the video is still there. And that was what you told everybody. Like all the videos that we have already were posting. Yeah. Yeah. And you did the clipout that one I saw with me, no one about Star Wars did great. So like that strategy is still there. It's just like you said, it's just a lot more just kind of laid back for you now. It is. And I think that like the ability with the clipouts, like there's still the ability to do clipouts on YouTube. It's just

at some point, I will figure out some sort of a setup to have a camera in the interview that I'm doing and just like, you know, get some BTS or get some, you know, roll camera for five minutes or something. Yeah. So we have something. But, but right now it's, you know, my poor husband is like doing all my clipouts and like, you know, doing all that stuff. And, you know, he's as busy as I have. So it's tough. Yeah. Yeah, it is. I mean, it's, it was, it's, that is one of those things where it's, it's, as you said, it's, when we had those conversations is that we always want to make sure it was fun. And it does come to a place sometimes where it starts to feel like a job, you know, and it's like, you got to have fun at that job. And you got to make sure that that job, if you're going to do it where it's full time work, that you got to have the version of it that you want to do.

Yeah. And like also, like most people that do jobs get fucking paid. Right. Right. You know, there's, there's no money. I haven't made any. money on this like I'm in the hole on this yeah but you know you will you will once once the advertisers come in yeah and that would that would be the goal like my goal's never been to like you know get rich or die trying right as it's been it's been to you know if I can break even and I enjoy doing it then it's still makes sense for me and so that's always just been the goal just like let's just break even right because then I I you know can can make the argument to my family that like I'm like spending this money for no reason.

Right. It's an investment. Yeah, exactly. So, I mean, everyone's like they don't, and no one seems to understand how expensive it is to produce a show. Right. It's really expensive. They're like, just chook a camera up there.

What are you talking about? Yeah, sure. Yeah, you can do that. You're really going to watch a static, a static camera shot. Right. Well, and especially for, and this is something I always admired about you, when we were talking about this as we were in pre-production on the show in the first run of it was that you were like, you're very aware, obviously, there's going to be eyes on you from the stuff that you've done. And you don't want to put a half-ass product out there. You want to put something in there that you know that because you, and again, to your credit, you've always said it, you want to make sure that the fans are getting, even though it's free, the show itself, they're getting a quality program. You know, they're not getting, like you said, a potato camera or they're not getting, they're just getting everything. We would go back and forth on, on, like, on making sure that which edits, if the sound, we have. We have.

had a whole thing we talked about on the air when it started where this freaking air conditioner when we first started shooting stuff was like ruin and certain takes and it was like it was loud and we had to move studios and it was and it was we were both on the same page on that but it was just like we have to make sure that everything is is working and that even that stuff the stuff we did with the live show like that that costs money to make sure you have a crew there to do it to like when brett was setting up you got to pay brett to set up you got to do these things it's like people's time is time is money and And that's what people don't understand.

They don't understand that. And it's fine. And the general reception of it, overall reception, has been really great. And people have really understood it. And they've understood the reasons why I've done it. And at the end of the day, the whole point was that I wanted to continue to do it because I love doing it. And the way to safeguard that was to make it as easy as possible for me.

Do you miss my notes? there are times that I miss your notes yeah um I Christian used to hold up these freaking notes yeah whiteboard it would yeah but like I I have the worst eyesight that like you know till this day I still don't know what half those notes said fair I was like I didn't ask that yeah it's true it's true but it's been really fun you know and like like I said, we promised to put out the episodes that we had on video. We've got two more left on video. Mary McDonald and Tate Fletcher.

Okay. Yeah, I was there for me. I was there for Mary. It was not there for tape, but I saw the interview. They're both phenomenal. So I highly recommend people go over there and check that out. I'm really excited about that. You know, and like I said, like if, if I get to a point where this thing is actually

like, you know, not costing me money and actually is making some money, we might be able to bring video back, you know, in. Zooms or something like that. Which would be great. But I don't know. At this point, it's just not, it's just too, it was too much. Yeah, I get it. But so you guys, you have kind of, you revamped it.

You took some time off. You got stuff ready to go. It was an announcement that came out. It changed the name of the show. The show was formerly blah, blah, blah, the K sack off. All that old stuff is there. I looked all the, you know, the past episodes are all there. But then you rebranded it and called it the sack off show.

which is now, and you can find that on Spotify and Apple and YouTube, obviously. And so I know that Kevin Smith, you launched that audio version with the Ready. Can you do, I don't know if you're spoiling the guest yet, but can you talk about some of the guests that you already had on the show? Yeah. I can talk about some of them for sure. I mean, we, Joel McCale. Oh, that's cool. It was awesome.

Yeah. Seth Green. Oh, yeah. feel good I'm glad that you finally got him on like I said Mary Macdonald Nate Fletcher and there's more I don't want to spoil too many more give me one give me one give me one give me one give me one more that you haven't announced just give me one oh my god just one because you did because you already announced I heard Joel and I heard and I heard and I heard Seth on your shows you got you got to give me one

that's the only thing we I'm literally having to go through yeah I want to know spoiler or exclusive here Oh. Come on. Give me one. Yeah. Um, I,

yeah, I'm trying to think. I'm trying to think. We have Mike Flanagan coming on. Oh, that's cool. He's got a lot. He's in the news a lot lately.

Mike Flanagan's huge. We haven't worked together since Oculus. Yeah. He's a, he's a phenomenal writer, director, producer. What's he doing?

He's doing an exorcist? I think he's doing an exorcist now or something. He's got a lot. It's got a lot going on. He's got a lot going on. That's great. A lot going on.

So that, and that is a phenomenal. Okay, good. That's, and so you, so how many of you, you don't have the time of the guests now, but how many of you, have you recorded already? I'm literally going to my notes. Yeah. Excited. 22. You've recorded 22 already?

No. Well, since you and I finished. Yes. Nine, ten. Okay. So, so, so you, you've recorded, you've recorded 10 so far. So, and that's including Kevin Smith? Uh-huh.

Okay, wow. So you've got 10 episodes that are coming out, and you have other ones, those ones that you read are just ones that you have lined up. Those are ones that have already been recorded. Amazing. Amazing. Yeah, so those have all been recorded. That's great. And then I have six more to do in the next three weeks.

Okay. And you're just going to do, and what are you going to do those? So you'll do those at like conventions and stuff? Yeah. So that was always the plan. Yeah. To do them at conventions and then when I'm in Los Angeles, you know, we're coming to Los Angeles like tomorrow for some appointments for my daughter and while I'm there. You know, I bang out an interview. Um, things like that. So and then, you know, I've got some pretty big ones that I'm going to get over Zoom, which is exciting as well. Um, but, um, yeah, I'm just, you know, it's what, what I love about the sort of the model of the show now is that, you know, um, um, I feel like a little like Hobbit with my backpack on.

All of my recording equipment is in a backpack. And I sort of like walk up to these people's houses who I've, I've never been to their homes before, knock on the door. And I'm like, Hey, can I set up? That's fun though.

But that's fun. And to then that's cool. Like, Hey, fucking Katie Sackoff coming over with a microphone. That's cool. You're sitting down. And I think that you,

you always, you forget how a lot of, like, they're, like, even listening to Kevin Smith. And he's talking about how much of like a massive fan he was of like, of Battlestar and how his wife was, you know,

he needed to basically Starbike helped her stop smoking. I thought that was amazing. Yeah, yeah. It was amazing. Yeah, yeah. It was, and I think that that's the kind of stuff that it becomes a little bit more intimate and a little bit more formal. And I think you said it on your intro thing, which I think is accurate,

where when there's not a camera blasting in someone's face and it's just a microphone, you might get like, you know, you might find the conversation a little bit more open and free then you might with someone realizing there's a video camera on them. And that is, that is in all honesty, the thing that I have noticed the most. Yeah. Even myself as an actor, I find that when there is a camera on me, I am much more guarded. Yeah. And on edge. Um, because, I don't know, it's this weird thing that like, you know, I think in, and for myself, I've been trained to not make mistakes. You know, like, you're like,

You're like, don't fuck up. And if you're going to fuck up, don't do it on camera. Right. Yeah. So it's like one of those things where you've just sort of like, you know, you become more guarded when there's a camera in your face. So I think that like sort of sauntering into somebody's house where they're already comfortable. Right. And setting up a microphone really allows for a conversation to be beautifully authentic.

I had a conversation when Ellis and I were doing the Shmo's No Show when we started it back in like 20, 10, 2011. I mean, you know, you were, you were literally the first guest of the whole thing. But we, but we had on Tom Arnold on like, I forget which episode it was, but Bonnie had set that up. And it was at his house. And we just set that, we didn't have a camera. We just set the microphones up, had a conversation. It was like a two-hour conversation.

And it was to this day, one of the most laid-back easy conversations because of everything that you just said. When some, when the microphones are just on somebody and it's not, there's no. You're not paying attention to the angles. You're not doing this. It is a little bit more free. And I think that what you said, though, nailed it because I'm not as guarded with the camera on, you know, for myself. But even before you said it, I was thinking, I was like, yeah, but that's because she's, you've got a publicist saying, be careful when you go in there. Make sure you don't do that.

And you have to say this. If you're going to ask you this, make sure you have that. And the camera's on you and people are looking at you. So, of course, it makes a lot of sense. You know, think about it. Like, actors were, you know, were picked apart. Right. You know, if you're on camera, you're sitting here thinking about, are my legs crossed the right way?

Right, right. You know, do I have a bunch of cellulite showing on the side of my leg? Because, you know, there's going to be that one person that points it out and makes my life a living hell. And, you know, is my shirt see-through? And my, you know, it's just all of this weird stuff you have to think about, especially as a woman, because the internet and especially YouTube is ugly. at times, you know, like, and all, I have found that all video mediums, if there is a comment section, people are cruel. And so, you know, so when when you are a performer and you've got a camera in your face, you're just much more guarded and protective. Yeah, I want to, I'm still as I'm trying to, I'll get it off camera, but I got to find out of some of these guests.

that's Kalamina. Yeah. But I'm excited for it. I'm excited for you. I think it's going to be, like I told you, you're very good at it. You're very good at having those conversations.

And I think that people, and you can tell that you already have your loyal listeners and the people that want to tune in every week. And I also thought something that was done very well was with the Kevin Smith one, because I was curious about how you guys were going to do this on the audio. I was like, well, how are they going to make shorts out of it? And I thought that what Robin did was very creative in using the audio,

the picture, know, whether it was the pop-ups that came up or certain pictures that would pop up in the topics that Kevin was talking about. So I thought that worked really well and a good way, kind of a marketing tool to get more eyes and ears on the show. Yeah. And like Robin's been working really hard on that. You know, he's, he's not like that stuff. He's teaching himself as he goes to do all of that stuff. And it was, it's, it's a really great idea and I love it. And I think, And I think that, you know, we're going to do, because there's the shorts and then the clipouts, right? Yeah.

So I think we're going to do more clipouts in the same sort of vein as well, which is also really cool. So as long as I can get pictures, that is the one thing I'm terrible at Christian is when I'm in someone's house and I've already sort of like feel like I've like interrupted their life and and sort of it, asking for photos of them is really hard. heart so I don't have any photos of anybody. Oh, really? The only reason I have the ones of Kevin is because Robin happened to be with me. I have no pictures of anybody's interviews because I'm so scared to be like, hey, do you mind if I shoot some shots? So let me let me tell you, first of all, if they didn't want you to do the show, you wouldn't be, they wouldn't do it. Especially if you're asking, that's part one. Part two is no one, no one, the guest that you're asking, if they've said yes to you are going to, is going to say, no, you can't take a picture to promote the show

that I want to promote on. No one's going to say that. It's true. I know. I just, I have like this massive insecurity about, I understand that. I get it.

You know? Yeah, I get it. Like inconveniencing them more. You know what I mean? I get it. But it's also, you're promoting the show that they're going to be on.

And I think that that's, that is what I make sure that every time I have a guest in here, say, hey, can I, and I say it's so excited that you're on the show and I can't wait to promote it to the audience. Do you want if I grab a photo? And I got every single time,

never had it on go, sure. It's always been like, Like, absolutely, let's do it. You know, like, one of my favorites was when we had Andrea Riceboro in here. She's like, please, I'm not going to butcher her accent. And she's like, please, let's take a picture. It'd be amazing.

Send it to me, tag me, and it's like, amazing. So, yeah, don't feel that way because if you're in, especially if you're in a house, like, they want you there. Otherwise, they'd say, I don't want this person in my house. Yeah. Well, the good news is I'm literally seen Seth on Thursday. So I'm going to get photos with him. Good, good, good, good. Thursday to use the photos promoting him.

Where did I just see him? I just saw him somewhere. Where was that? Oh, it was the X-Men 97 event. He was there. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, he was there. All right, guys, let's talk about AG1.

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Which places? I'm probably going to see you now in October in New York, right? Yeah. Yeah. No, wait, that one was canceled. Oh, was it? New York Comic Concelled? I think the, not New York.

The one I was going to was canceled. They're moving it, though. Oh, whoa, no. You're thinking the other one we were supposed to do together. Yeah, no, no, no. This one, October 17th to October 20th is New York Comic-Con. I don't I'm not I'm not there no I am in Cincinnati that weekend oh bummer I know bummer yeah okay yeah I uh no I've got um Detroit Comic-Con coming up literally next weekend okay

um the 17th 18th I'll be there okay so I'm super excited about that um and then I don't have another convention until October oh wow doing Cincinnati and then Wisconsin in Nashville. I'm going to Germany. And that's about it. So I think I've got like five more conventions lined up. Is Germany a convention? It is.

It is. And it's meant to be like a family vacation. But depending on our daughter's health, it may just be me heading over really quick. So I'm only asking because you posted on the stuff that you're working with and you did, you had done a big announcement on your channel and the things that you're working on. with your daughter or the charities that you're working with. Do you want to speak on that at all about

what's going on or would you rather just leave it to the YouTube video? Yeah, I mean, I don't want to go into specifics about her care or anything like that, just that, you know, just that it's ongoing. Of course. And that she is such a little trooper. She's like the strongest little girl I've ever met in my entire life. And, you know, everyone really came out. Like, The fan base came out and really supported that initiative. And I mean, things sold out so fast that we started adding other things. So we raised a lot of money for Children's Hospital, which is awesome.

And, you know, I only wish that I could, that I could raise eight million times more. Yeah. For every children's hospital around the world because it's, no, no child deserves to go through what, what I've seen. I've seen the the hardships of life. And when they, when they touch a child, it's even, it just becomes even more tragic, you know? And so it's, it's, I wish that I could take like all the pain and suffering from

kids away in those world. But I can't. So instead I'll just continue to raise money. You know, we got to, I got to go, Disney was super cool, and I got to go get dressed up in my Boca Tan costume. I saw that. I saw that. That's so cool.

Yeah, tell me a little bit about that. So tell me about May and Fourth and what you did. That's, I saw some of the video. Yeah, I, you know, I think about a year and a half ago, I had brought it up to them. And I said, you know, it would be really cool. It would be really cool if I could go do this in costume. And they were so on board. Yeah.

It was just they wanted to figure out when it would work and and I got a phone call and they were like we want to do it. How would you feel about doing it on May 4th? And I was like, that's amazing. So it was super cool. So was it in LA? It was in LA. So at Children's Hospital Los Angeles. Oh, that's where our daughter has received so much of her care.

And the my hair and makeup were there, my wardrobe. That's cool. It was the whole team came out to get me. me dressed up that's great i'll put i you put a picture in your instagram i think i'll i'll put it when we were talking about it i'll all overlay it so people can can see what we're talking about it's really awesome it's super cool super super cool and yeah and i just i just implore people that if you uh if you if you if you if times are good and you have a little extra finance or time um you know time is time is a beautiful asset um you know just go donate your your your your your your

money or your time to a children's hospital because there's many, many opportunities to help. Absolutely. And every city has one. Yeah, well, that's great. I'm so glad

that you first of all said that in second that you're able to do that. That's really amazing. Well, speaking of Disney and speaking of Mandalorian and all that stuff, what the hell's going on? What's the latest? What's happening? We haven't heard anything about it. What's going on?

I know Great and typical I I throw it in the way that I do thinking I'm slick like oh yeah What's going on tell me? And you're like yeah No shit

Nothing We got No Have you spoken To Favre or Folloni at all Just to say hey guys How's it going? What's up?

Yeah Cool I mean like you know we're all friends. Damn you sack off. Damn you. I need something here. Oh God. Yeah, there's nothing.

There's nothing. All I can say is that it was really, really nice to put that costume back on again last week. And the character is such a gift. And the fans have been, you know, wonderful, good and bad. The passion, the passion surrounding Star Wars. Wars is such a beautiful thing. And I'm so blessed to be a part of it. Yeah.

And well, we don't know yet what's happening with it, at least the fan base doesn't, where we know that the Favreau movie looks like it's starting to shoot soon. So that's why I'm kind of like, hey, have you heard anything? And you said, hey, yeah, I talk to those guys all the time. So I'm hoping, I'm hoping that you pop up in that one, and if not definitely the Filoni movie. And then there's some other stuff that they're working on, that new Ray movie. coming out and they got the

Acolyte is the show that's coming out too. Did you see the Ackleine trailer? Did you see that yet? I didn't even busy the last week. No. No, I know that it came out and I was so excited to see Carrie Ann Moss. She's the best.

There's rumors that Keanu's going to show up in that show. There's rumors. Really? Yeah, but that could be just hopeful Matrix fans that, like, want it to happen. I'm sure that's what it is. But listen, you know, I don't know. I know.

Fingers crossed. I wouldn't put anything past him. I know. You never know. Pull off the extraordinary. Yeah. Yeah. Did you, so is it when, going back to your, your podcast, your show, when you go and you talk to whether it's like Mary or Trisha or, I mean, because these are people that you have made just lifelong friendships with. But is it still kind of, I wanted to ask you this when we were working together when it came to late, is it just like still kind of like surreal and like all these weird memories come back when you're sitting there talking to Mary McDonald for like an hour, an hour and a half? Is it just like, you know you're listening to her speak obviously but at the same time do all these kind of memories come flashing back they do you know i think the thing that that has struck me so much lately is that just just the the speed at which time passes um you know that that i have literally had my side card for like 30 years wow It's just insane. You know, I walked under my first movie set 30 years ago.

Wow. It's just the craziest thing. It feels like this. And it's just in the blink of an eye. Yeah. In the blink of an eye. And so to sit down and like have these wonderful conversations, it's just amazing. But it also feels like it was just yesterday.

You're not lying. I went with that same. We had just shot that Mary McDonald. interview and I think it was like a couple of days later the critics choice awards were going on and I saw her and I sent you the picture I took a picture with her and I and I and I sent it to you and the reason I bring that up is the same that same night I ran into Susan Downey who's Robert Downey's wife who was my boss for three years at silver pictures that right that was 17 years ago right no 18 years ago this is when I I started working for her along those lines. So it's like that go and she looks the freaking same, by the way, but still it goes, it goes so fast. And so just exactly what you're saying, it's like you for a split second. You're like, oh, yeah.

Like I literally thinking about this this morning. When you're younger, you think of like when someone says 20 years, you're going, oh man, 20 years is a lot of time. 20 years ain't shit. Nothing. Nothing. You know, it's so interesting. I was literally just having this conversation with somebody and, and I was, explaining that, you know, this industry is so weird and it's also so, and this is a metaphor for life as well.

Yeah, yeah. It's just so cruel in the sense that, you know, when I was younger and I had no life experience to draw from for my craft, and I would just fake it because I didn't have a life experience, I was being asked to portray these emotions that were so profound and deep and much larger than anything that I had experienced in my own life. And now that I'm older and I have enough tragedy in my life to break anybody. Yeah, right. I am not being asked to use it. I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. And that's not to say that that like my performance like a Mandalorian like didn't

require me to act. Of course it did. But that is a very, very controlled human being. you know like it's there is an aspect of me that is dying dying to do something where I actually have to tap into the tragedy that's that is my life at times you know what I mean or that I have experienced yeah I do understand that very much so in the same way that I hadn't done stand up in so long and when I went back and did it and it's from being on the microphone all the time and taking like experiences and writing in a way that I never used to do

And when I was going up two times a night, seven days a week, I wasn't writing the way that I, I write better now when I'm going up once a month or once every other month. I'm writing better now than I did back then because of what you're saying. Being able to pull on life experiences, look at certain things one way. And it is. It's that it's that joke of like, oh, I wish, I know what I'm doing here when you really don't. And then you're like, oh, I wish I could use it now. but you're you're you know you're just at a place now where it's like you can't but your your circumstance is a little different because you can still you be you can get

cast on something tomorrow where you can use that but like i can't go back up on stage at 32 years old and pull from my experience at a 48 year old you know what i mean no of course not of course not but it's yeah it's just a very very different it would be a very different set yeah true you know what i mean true but i think that's the thing right is that But it's it's that joke that people say all the time, you know, women that I know that I know that are like, you know, I spent so many years trying not to get pregnant. And then when I decide I'm ready, I can't. Right. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's just it's one of those weird things, you know. It's always like that though. Remember when we're younger and it's like you're not looking for a relationship and you find one. Yeah. Yeah. Same thing. Yeah, it really is. It's, it's, you know, like my parents say all the time, getting. old is is not for sissies. No, for real. For real. It's not good. Not that we're old.

I don't feel. Look, it's, we're getting, it's getting older. You get, I mean, if you, look, I remember when I had my 30th birthday going, oh my God, 30. Oh my God, 30. It's like, please, take me back to 30. You kidding? I remember when I was

30. Yeah. Please. It's like that it's, but it goes and the little things that we goofed about, you goofed about it, when you were talking to Glenn Howardton about how you get what you, I forget how you said you tweaked. How did you, you were sleeping and you tweaked your back. Yeah, my back.

Yeah, yeah. I heard my back parallel parking. It's like, it's like, are you kidding? I legit. You should use that. I have. I went like this. Oh.

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dot com slash big thing that is join b i lt dot com slash big thing are you paying attention to that stuff the mike tyson and jake paul stuff i mean a little right it's it's it's going to be uh all i can say listen yeah i would never pretend to actually be a person who can fight that is not i don't want to pretend you put me in the ring with a trained female and i would crawl up in a ball and cry my eyes out. So this is no disrespect whatsoever, but I did see the video that Mike Tyson was coming for you. And I'm so ready.

And he like shows himself sprinting. Yeah. You were scared or not? No, I was like, don't show that video. Like that was not in process. When Mike Tyson was sprinting, I didn't see that. Oh. I was like, don't show that.

Like, that's like, I don't think that's. Yeah, but here's the difference. The intimidation factor that you thought was going to be, Mike. Maybe not, but here's the difference, because the next video is him throwing 75 punches at 58 years old or whatever the hell he is, 60 years old. And he's throwing punches like harder than most 25-year-olds do. That's why you go, oh, yeah. Well, hey, did you see him sprint? We should not worry about the sprinting video.

This guy just punched a hole in the wall. It's true. Well, but no, listen. I mean, that's the thing. Like, I have no desire to be on the receiving end of any punches from anybody, especially Mike Tyson. Right. But at the same time, like, don't, why did you post the video from running? Like, that didn't work.

I got to see that. It wasn't. Is it like, you got to watch it. I got to watch it. Is it like De Niro? I feel like maybe I'm speaking at a tool. No, at a tool. You're speaking like a tool.

I'm speaking out of tool. It's not. Yeah. You need to Google this joke because I want to know if I'm actually. Let me know if it is, which one it is. But either way, I don't, I mean, you got, I respect the fact that Jake Paul's even getting in the ring with them. That's one, though.

I haven't bet on a fight in a long time. If Mike Tyson is the underdog, which I heard he is, I might go to Vegas and put some, put some scratch down on Tyson. So here's the crazy thing. Here's a YouTube video. Okay. I don't know who this. So this is a YouTube video.

I'll share it to you right now. Okay. Let me send it to you right now. Okay, and I'll play it. So just make sure I didn't, like, pull up, like, some guys. Oh, yeah, I see it. I see it. No, it's Rich Eisen.

Oh, hold on. Okay. Let me bring it up. Hey, it's me. This video, they show him running. And I, like. Where's the ad? Oh, there's an ad playing.

Hold on. Let's see. Long ass. Like. But even like, even like, even, even, Yeah, I see. Yeah. Even Rich says his running my, I don't know, just watch it.

Now I feel awful. I think what it is also is the fact. Someone says he's wearing weighted shoes. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's what it is. I think he's running with like, really. Well, he should have taken the weighted shoes off for emphasis. Like, you don't know, no one looks cool running in sand.

Like, you know what I mean? I think what he's proving. You don't want to be that guy. But the guy at 60 years old is built like a brick shit house. Of course he is. It's like that running was not. A track and field star, you are not, Mr. Tyson. Still, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I would want to be nowhere near that if I was Jake Paul.

But the amount, I guess, I guess I take that back. the amount of money that it's going to be generated from that fight because it's because they're doing something I can't I think it's unprecedented this is the first time a big fight like this is everybody it's on Netflix you don't have to pay for it. No I mean unless you have you know unless you don't have Netflix but if you have Netflix she's pay for it. It's like it's a brand new era and I just had this long conversation with my brother because like the fall guy just came out with Ryan Gosling and Emily Blunt and I enjoyed it. I thought it was a really fun movie. didn't do very well. And the question is, with all the summer movies that are coming out, and there was like this debate among people of why it didn't do well.

And I think there's a lot of factors, right? I think that it's because movie tickets are very expensive and you've got to be very choosy. My brother had a great point where he said, it's not like it was back in the day when you were like, well, I want to be entertained and I want to go to the movies, what's out. It's like, well, I want to be entertained. Okay, well, I'm going to pick one of the 87, in streaming services that I have.

And I'm also, back 25 years ago, you didn't have the type of TV or sound system that you have now. It's like, there's a lot of factors that go into it. Plus, the other thing that my brother brought up that I thought was really interesting was that this generation is paying attention and entertained by TikTok. And not that they don't like movies at all, but a lot of, like the core audiences for movies, are like 19, like 22, right? Very different what they're entertained by these days. Their stars are TikTok stars and YouTube stars and things like that.

How weird. Yeah, it's weird. So it's like, it's a very different medium. I think it all plays together. But like even, I mean, that marketing of Fall Guy was incredible. He was incredible. They had such great marketing. So I don't know.

I think it's really strange because like, you know, we, our daughter wanted to go see a movie the other night, just two and a half. She like loves movies. And I tried to find a children's movie that was suitable for her, PG or G. Yeah. There wasn't one. Not yet. Yeah.

You got. So that's the thing. Yeah. It's like, okay, so, you know, parents don't want to take their kids to go see movies, you know. At least I do. Yeah. And there's, there is nothing available. So that's, you know, we, I guess we have to ask ourselves where the, where the, uh, the hole in the market is and fill it.

Yeah, it's true. I mean, and I do, I happen to be on the page because I got into a debate with one of my co-hosts about this. I do think that streaming has a lot to do with it because of even what you just said just then, if you know that if you wanted to, if you couldn't find something in the theater, I guarantee you that you probably could find something on the 87 different streaming platforms that you have that you guys could sit down. Absolutely, but I don't want to, the crazy thing is, is I don't want to put my kid in front of a TV. I get it. I get it.

It's different because one, is one of them is in my opinion as a parent alienating. Yeah. The other one, you go to a movie. It's an experience and you are with other human beings. They're two very different things. And as a parent, I would much rather my child say to me every single weekend, mom, can I have 30 bucks to go to the movies? Absolutely.

Yeah, I understand that. I understand that. Yeah, it's experience. And that goes back to kind of what we did. And it goes back to my point where because we're so locked into not even just sitting in front of a TV, but with the social media and those types of things that I agree. But I think that it adds into it, though, that people in the convenience of it, if you don't have something to go see, because that's the difference, right? You said if there was something to go see, you would have. But you didn't.

So if your daughter wanted to watch, you know, something. And she's like, I want to watch a movie. You're like, okay, well, let's turn on Disney Plus and let's see what's on there. You know, even though. And that's what we did. Yeah, right, right. Yeah. But there are a lot of...

We did, and we watched the hunchback of Notre Dame. Okay, right. And so, and going back and watching old school movies. So I think that what... And that's why I think movies like Dispicable Me, three or three or four, I can't remember which one it is. Coming out soon. There's a new one that's coming out. Inside Out, too, is coming out.

Heathcliff, Heathcliff or Garfield? I can remember one of the two. Garfield, I think. One of them. Garfield comes out. And those movies, I think, because of what you just said, will do, pretty well because there haven't been movies that kids could watch. The one that my six and a half year old wants to go see is the new John Krasinski one and Ryan Reynolds. If. Oh, if. Yeah. I would take

Jenny to go watch that. It's PG. It's just not out yet. Yeah, it comes out soon. Yeah, it comes out real soon. It comes out, I think, in the next couple of weeks. She would like that. Like, because we, we have very clearly explained to her what live action and animated out. That's She knows that there's animated, like, Little Mermaid and live action Little Mermaid. Right, right. Like, so she understands it. So we just say, it's a live action movie. Do you want to go watch it?

That's great. Yeah, it's amazing. So we have, I have a little, like, this is the one, this is the first, like, live action one that my little one is really excited about. She really wants to see it. And, of course, I get the screening when I'm going to New York, so I'll have to take her when I get back. That's all right. She'll be, she'll be fine with it. I told her it came out.

She's like, as long as we can see it when you get back, that's fine. So, yeah, there's a lot coming out, but it is an interesting conversation how it does play into, especially with the different, because we're both same generation that you just look at media. I think generations look at media very differently and how they intake stuff. And it's, yeah, it's a strange, it's a strange thing. They do. They do. And it's sort of, you know, I don't know, it'll be interesting to see what happens with the streamers. Yeah.

The 10 years to come. Yeah. I think that we're going to get to a point where we're not going to have all of them anymore, and they're going to start buying each other up, which is already happening. It's really happening, yeah. And we're going to go to, you know, three or four of the streamers will have everything. Is there anything that you're watching right now that you're kind of, as long as I've known you, you always find like these shows that you kind of go down the rabbit hole with.

Is there anything right now that you're going down the rabbit hole? No, we haven't had any time to do anything. I just watched a documentary called Swamp Kings on Netflix about the Florida Gators football team. Oh, the football team? My arch, my rivals.

Yeah. And that was a cool documentary. And then what are we watching right now? We watched, we're watching the oh my God. Did you watch the Roast? Oh, okay. No, the Pedro Pascal movie with Nick Cage.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I forget I'm not going to even Remember the name of it. Something weight of talent. Yeah, the unbearable weight of talent or something like that. Is it unbearable weight of talent? Is that what it is? Something like that.

Whatever it is. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. I started watching it and we bailed on it, but it was pretty good. Sadie bailed on it. Yeah. I watched the, did you watch the roast to Tom Brady? No. Oh, you should, you'll love it.

You'll love it. Where is it? Netflix. Okay. It's like three hours long, but it's, it's awesome. Kevin Hart hosted it. Nikki Glazer has the best set. That's right.

Joel McLean was actually there. Yeah, yeah. He saw him in the audience. So was Sam Levine. San Levine was there too. But it was a really, it was a great show. Nikki Glazer, to me, had the best set. Jeff Ross, obviously.

What do you mean? Women aren't funny. I never said that. But it was. No, no, you didn't say that. There was just. No, I know. I know.

Yeah, I was watching with Kate Mulligan just did a bit that I watched recently. And she's like going over the stair. She's like, well, you know, I know it gets. Her joke was funny. She's like, she goes, I'm a, she's, here I am. I'm a woman, I know. You guys, oh, woman community, I can get the big round of applause, but you never know. I can have a dick.

It's really, it's really, it's really good. She's, that's why I try to go a little bit, a little bit like this, a little bit like that. It's funny. You just don't know. I'm walking like a gorilla. Yeah, so anyway. So that was, and then we started, and then people kept telling me to watch, um, Shogun and I've been watching

Shogun, that's really good. That shows awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That shows awesome. You know, we're such a weird breed. My husband and I are so into Formula One that all we care about is like the races on the weekends and yeah. It's like, you know, we're more like

sports household in a weird way. But there are some shows that look really good. Yeah, well, it's sport. I mean, look, I am crossing my fingers because L.A. is not a It's like it's like a sports town when it's hip to be a sports town, right? And it's not a real sports town. It's like, oh, I love the Lakers.

Do you though? Do you? Yeah, it's like I'm moving back to a very, very heavily sports-oriented place. And I am, I really feel that my daughters will get into my, because my, my oldest is already like, hey, can we watch, can we keep watching? We watched the last Knicks game when they, when they advanced. She's like, she's like, can we watch more? more like the next games and I was like yeah absolutely kidding me um so she's take her to next game

i'm going to we're definitely going to go to mass square garden for sure yeah yeah yeah she'll love it she she likes basketball so um we're we're excited for it it was it was really cute because she was she would she would be getting into it and then someone hit a three and she was like yes and she's throwing her arms up and then if they missed it she's like come on it was amazing it was pretty great we uh we jenie we've taught her how to to to cheer for the the good guys and the bad guys every time I sit down to watch a sporting event. She goes, who are the bad guys? Yeah, my little one does that too.

Who are you really? Who do we not like? Who do we hate? And to no one's surprise, you won't be surprised with this. My little one is into wrestling. She's like watching WrestleMania with me. And I think, yeah. Oh, yeah.

She's like, she'll do fake wrestling. And then I've told the story before, but I'll tell you this. I think I told you this. But when we were watching, Maybe not. We were watching WrestleMania and then my wife and my oldest were out and we were clean and so

I wanted to make sure that her room is clean. So I'm chucking the Barbies into the Barbie house and I'm just kind of like throwing them over here. I'm like yeah, and it was just like chaotic but I did it. Yeah. And so my little one walks in and she goes whoa, dad

who cleaned my room? And I go magic. And she goes oh yeah? Well magic did a pretty bad job it was amazing that's pretty awesome it was pretty awesome yeah so anyway yeah the kids it is it's incredible what they say but they say the funniest things they say the funniest things yeah jenny loves to wrestle and she said to rob the other day she said daddy i'm i have a good idea when you try and put my diaper on i'm gonna wrestle you.

So she lays down on the bed on her back and she goes, wrestle, wrestle, wrestle, wrestle, wrestle, wrestle, wrestle. It's so adorable. That's amazing. Yeah, and they just, they'll get you, they'll get you. They pull in the heartchings, the little moments that they do for sure. Well, that's cool, man. So then, and so you've got tons of stuff going on. You got the show, which is every, when do you drop it?

Every Tuesday? Every Tuesday. Okay. Are you doing hindsight again or no? I am. So the hindsight's are literally me in a vacuum. Okay. The last like 20 minutes of every interview, we talk about the last one.

Okay. So they're contained. The hindsight are contained in the episode. So it's not like a separate episode. It's just you're just kind of retooling what happened last, the previous week. Exactly. Okay, cool. And then so, yeah, and I noticed, and you did, you did Rosenbaum's show recently, which is

we did do Rosie's show. We recorded it the same day that we shot. not that one, but it aired. That seemed to, his show seems to be taken off a little bit even more than it was beforehand. He said some pretty good people on there. He said some great guests. It's so funny. I wanted to like, I wanted to like punch him because I reached out to Kurt Sutter like,

oh yeah, four months ago and asked him to come on my podcast. And he said yes. And then sort of went dark trying to figure out where we were going to go. And then I just like see that he and Katie were on his show. And I was like, damn it. Yeah. They were my get. I know, right?

Well, I mean, you never know, like, that sometimes appearances on one show will then elevate, you know, the opportunity for you on the next one. You know, so if, like, because he got even more eyes on him, people, like, look at Michael Bean when Rosemomom had Michael Bean on, which Michael Bean's a legend. But he wasn't in, he wasn't doing a lot of podcasts. He even said as much on when he was talking to Rosie couldn't believe that he's like, all the things that I've done, the shows that I've done. I did your show and people were walking out to me going, hey, I love John Rosenbaum. mom, right? And, but when you get Michael Bean on an episode now, it's like, oh, yeah, that's a guy that did it for the younger generation. That's the guy that did Rosenomom's thing. And then I went back and watched Terminator again recently. I know you love that movie, but like it's, it's, it's just,

it's just so good. It's so good. It's so good. It's so good. I just love, I, I, there's, I just want to do, even as an actor. Yeah. Like, 80s and 90s action movies for the rest of my life. For real. I think we can wind. back to that, by the way. I think that we can get to a place where, I mean, look at what they did for, um, pray for, did you, did you ever see that one on, on, it was like the pre. Yeah, it was, that was done in such a way. It felt like an old school budget, very simple to make, and it was fantastic.

And like, that's the kind of movies that I wish they would do more of because, bringing back to Fall Guy, the, the day of the 150, 170, million dollar movie like is a big risk now it's a big risk yeah it's too much it's too much you know it isn't and it's unnecessary it really isn't are you are there any has there I mean because I was I know that Trisha Helfer interview is coming on I know that you guys oh no you just here today right yeah it aired today it air today so it's not a spoiler then when you guys talk about Battlestar and in general how you know I I I do wonder where they're going to go with that series, right?

Because I know you guys, both of you, and a lot of people on that show have talked about how it just maybe not necessary to do a total reboot on it because you guys have done it. But do you think there's any world where they would say, hey, Katie, Tricia, Mary, let's do this thing one more time. It's like a special movie or something. No, there's no way. And I don't know if we'd want him to. I don't know.

You know, it's, you can't, you can't be selfish and sort of. of like it would be hypocritical of us to say that we didn't condone or think that a reboot of our reboot was timely because it's there's more time has passed right between us and you know said said new reboot then passed between the original and us there's 20 years between us and and the the the original approximately and there's been 20 years approximately between ours in a new a new new remake. So I mean, I'm all for it. If it's good, go for it. Would you do it if they were like, hey, we want to bring Starbucks back? We want to do one movie special? Yeah, I mean, I'd read the script for sure. Yeah. For sure. Okay. Yeah. Cool. Well, I know you're busy. I know you got a lot going on. So, uh... Right at my daughter. She just woke up. Yeah, go do your things. Right over here. And she's taking off her pajamas. She's going to wrestle, wrestle, wrestle, wrestle. So tell, tell the people

where to find your show. You can find the stockoff show everywhere you get your podcast, Apple, Spotify. You can still find us over at YouTube, but I suggest we are audio only. So make sure you subscribe over on Apple and Spotify. All right. Well, it was a pleasure talking to you as always. And I look forward to talking to you again. I'm looking forward to seeing all the interviews.

I'm so excited for your move. I know. I know. It's right around the corner. So we put on, we put on, because actually a patron has said, you know, you should make an Amazon wish list for the stuff that you need. And it was okay, no problem. People have been so awesome. Somebody got us like the freaking lenses that we needed for these cameras and everything, too.

It was amazing. Yeah, it was amazing. So the fans have been very supportive on it. I love that. Yeah. All right. Thank you very much. Guys, thank you very much.

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