The Kristian Harloff Show - Kevin Feige CONFIRMS MCU Reboot? | Secret Wars, X-Men, Blade & DC Updates LIVE!

Episode Date: July 21, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:01 What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the show. And I just realized something. Hey, Luke or PLD or somebody. Apparently got a, I don't have enough storage. This show's not going to get recorded. That's not good. Hey, we have a lot to talk about today.
Starting point is 00:00:21 What are we going to talk about? Well, Kevin Feigey is talking a lot about Marvel, the things they did right, the things they did wrong, what's coming up next, who we might. see that and a lot more. John Roker is on the show and is currently planning out the two steak dinners. He's going to have to take me to because Jurassic World, it's like the number three most profitable movie of the year so far worldwide. It's going to hit 700 probably while we're doing this show.
Starting point is 00:00:53 But there's a lot more to talk about. And we're excited that you guys are on the show with us today. So let's get into it, my friends. It's myself. It's John Roker. Ken Roku went two in a row. This is somebody who was losing every other, he was losing every week.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Now he's won three out of two out of the last like five. So can he do it again? We shall see. All right. It's Christian Rolf's show. It's Monday. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to the show. It is Monday.
Starting point is 00:01:27 And joining me on the show is John Roker. What's up? What's going on? What's going on? Hello, am I? It's so great to see everybody. What's going down? How was the weekend?
Starting point is 00:01:37 The weekend was fun. Yeah? Yeah, got to see. Superman again. Oh, you did? Okay. Okay. But I also, like, I just went down for the count because I took the shingles vaccine and the pneumonia vaccine, and that
Starting point is 00:01:52 kicked me in the age. It was fun watching sports, fun watching movies, but I was also like battling. Too much, too much. Too much, too much. But we got into a Netflix show. I want to recommend this to you, Christian. If you've watched, anybody was watching, Untamed, the new Eric Banner show that's on Netflix,
Starting point is 00:02:08 six episodes. It's damn good. good really surprisingly damn good no fanfare no publicity but it was excellent watch yeah i didn't even know i was i thought it's so funny it's like eric bono like traded places with pedro pascal yeah and sam worthington and jacourtney and john all these guys who had been in a lot of stuff they're trying to make it work edro made it work i just i always thought like that that eric bono would have gotten to the level that pedro pascal is at now oh 100 percent never hit that Like especially after like you know Hulk
Starting point is 00:02:43 After Hulk Well not after but Hulk was like you know Bag of Farras He was a lead is what I mean like he would they tried to make him a big thing The one that I think that he could that I was surprised he didn't pop afterwards Because he was probably Really one of the best things in the movie was Troy Oh yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:03:01 He was great in Troy Such a weird movie to watch now Is it? Why? Why? Because it's so like ridiculous you know, Brian Cox, that kind of to you're like, what is happening? I actually really like that movie, but yes, I don't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't disagree anybody that would, that would make the argument you're making.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Yeah, it's a fun movie, but it's, I enjoy it. I enjoy it. Anyway, we got a lot to discuss. Kevin Feigey was out here talking a lot in the promotion. You have a lot to say about this, I'm sure. But before you, remember, you and I were talking off, you're like, I'm just setting the week and I can't win this thing. You win the last two at the last, so you're kicking ass right now. Thank you, guys.
Starting point is 00:03:40 much thanks to everybody who's been sending super chats in it's it's helped me win which is nice and you beat capes and cowls with boy and winston that is shocking absolutely shocking because i've really tapped into the superhero stuff that's going on right now so what i did not think i would win in july of all months for god well well listen you also get the spoiler reviews for both uh superman and you're going to get it fantastic for spoiler on on monday because we're both going to see it tonight oh yes we are i'm taking matt sarah with me it's going to be a blast tell them not to getting a fight with him he doesn't that's the last thing he's when you have that level of skill joke i know i'm just saying when you have that level of skill you yeah that that mentality of looking
Starting point is 00:04:19 for fights is is is gone yeah at his level dude do you like Nate diaz looks for fights or whatever he walks from anywhere he's a level of skills they're very different level of skill and matt sarah is almost like is like a Yoda figure at his uh oh fair enough where he's at his school and to and you look did you if you see the um the video was like the anniversary recently of that burger king thing oh yeah yeah yeah i know there was the when the guy was causing a raucous and and matt was just got all right buddy okay all right and he's just holding and like hold the guy down like you guys couldn't do anything so the last person in the world that is you know looking for something is him you know what i mean so it's like you look up the word subdued
Starting point is 00:05:07 It's that video. 100%. It's also subdued right next to bitched. Yeah, well, fair. There's nothing. The guy could do nothing. I really, anybody out there who has not seen this video, just go and look at it because it's absolutely tremendous.
Starting point is 00:05:26 It's tremendous. We used to talk about a collateral live all the time. Anyway, let's get to these comments on what Kevin Feigey's talking about, and John can go off for about 50 minutes. I already did yesterday. But yes. Really? All right.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Let's see. Let's see where it is, what's going on, what the talk is. Here we go. All right. So again, reading this from Dark Horizons, Marvel Studios, fantastic four first steps almost upon us. Marvel Studios chief Kevin Feige is now finally out there doing interviews and in the process of discussing a bunch of stuff about the future of the MCU.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Speaking with Variety, he spoke about the overall plan for the company and confirmed there are currently seven years of plans based of the. in the face of the MCU going right through to 2032. Before this interview, they had an influencer to interview him and asked him what color sneakers he would be wearing for the rest of his life. Oh, no, sorry. The studio is determined not to make the mistakes of phase four and five again with pumping
Starting point is 00:06:24 out too much content, saying they produced 50 hours of stories between 2007, 2019, but in the past six years had produced well over 100 hours of stories and half of the time he said that's too much. It resulted in focus on expansion, which he said led people to say, it used to be fun, but now I have to know everything about all these things for the first time ever, quantity trumped quality. That oversupply, he thinks, is the main reason Marvel has faced the problems it has in recent years. Adding that, look at Superman. It's clearly not superhero fatigue, right? Of the just open Superman, which is now up to 407 million worldwide at the box office, he says, I like the lot. I love you. Just.
Starting point is 00:07:04 jump right into it. You don't know who missed it terrific. It's tough. You'll figure it out. This is a fully fleshed out world. To get the MCUs mojo back, he confirms the film's output is slowing to just three films a year. Slowing, that was a, what? Slowing, it's always been two or three times. Anyway, while TV will just be a single live action show for you. Okay, that's different. Those shows will also be much more akin to Marvel's 2010 series, namely having far less overlap with the feature film so it won't be necessary to watch. Example, he cited the events of the final act with Thunderbolts is having no impact on the second season of Darede a Born Again. He also does want to repeat of this year where both Ironheart
Starting point is 00:07:45 and Wonder Man are being released after sitting on the shelves for years. He says they have no intention of changing their approach to filmmaking with the changes and improvements coming through the process, but they are tightening budgets. He also confirms the company will reset singular timelines and essentially reboot the MCU following the bench of Avengers Secret Wars. However, he's not a fan of that word. Reboot is a scary word. Reboot can mean a lot of things to a lot of people. Reset singular timeline. We're thinking along those lines. X-Men is where that will happen. He says if Avengers Endgame is about endings, and then Avengers Secret Wars is about beginnings. It's very much sets us up for the future.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I'd be honest. What's your problem with this? What's your problem? Because last I checked, unless Kevin Feige was in a coma for the last 10 years, this was all happening under his watch. This is an amazing amount of distance from something you were fully in charge of. At no point does it take responsibility for the quality, the lack of quality in the stuff. He's right.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Nobody cares about superhero fatigue if you make good stuff. And who is there making the stuff, watching it all, supervising it all? Kevin Feigey. Okay. So this idea that was like, well, we realized that it was quality. Nobody would have give a crap about quality of a quantity if you were making quality products quantitatively throughout the process.
Starting point is 00:09:08 So to me, it feels like he's saying, we hear you, we understand where you came from. All things being level, our quality never dipped. It was just that we were giving you too much of the stuff. And then just you guys got burnt out on it. That's not what happened at all. They dropped the ball quality-wise, overall, very mixed reactions to the phases. both on TV and on film. And in the end, this is what he's doing now.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Essentially, this is like, like if you're in a relationship and the person breaks up with you and goes and does all these other things and then eventually all the stuff falls apart, they run right back to you and like, well, I'll do things like it was before. We're going to do singular timelines. We're only going to do one show, only two or three movies. We're bringing back RDJ, the Rousseau's. I swear, I'll be just like it was before. Come back to me.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Just come back to me. We'll do it all over again. And it'll be even better than last time. And so my only problem with this is that he takes no responsibility for any of it. He's just saying these are the changes we're going to make. And that's a little frustrating here from a guy who's in charge of the whole damn thing. Do you know what I see? What's that?
Starting point is 00:10:10 I see John Roker's laser focusing away from James Gunn and aiming it at Mike at Kevin Pagy. I've told you before. If you do dumb stuff, I am going to call you out on it. You know? Yeah, I think that some of this stuff, like, you know, you're still in charge. you got to try to massage it as best you can, but I think that to be fair to Kevin Feige, I don't really disagree,
Starting point is 00:10:32 like as much as sometimes I was disagreeing with how harsh you were done. I don't disagree with a lot of the things you're saying here. However, I do think also, you got to remember that they still do work for Disney, right? And, Chepec was under this. But this is the misconception,
Starting point is 00:10:55 if I think I know, were you going. Go ahead. I, this, the TV movie stuff started under Iger. Cheapick took it over and, you know, put, what do you come? Put whatever it is in the Fast and Furious, the Knox, put the Knox, put the Knox in the car. Iger was already in the car. Iger was already going to do this. It was changing more, but yeah, but there's, that's also like, okay, if you have a creative idea and then you give it to somebody who has no creative ideas whatsoever, like, here, here's all the stuff I came up with and then like, oh, do more of this. Yeah, we want to do more? You do more. Can we do three seasons? Can we do three more shows?
Starting point is 00:11:25 It's fine. I just think Iger escapes blame too much on this. He was part of it. Let's blame on IGR too, whether it's Iger and and Chepec. Let's blame him both. Kevin Feigy still works for both those guys. Yes. Well, yeah. You know what I mean? So it's like at that point, he's like, okay, hey, can you do it? And he's like, yeah, you know, maybe you shouldn't have done it. Maybe you should have said, look, you got to give me some breathing room, or maybe he did sit. I probably did. Yeah, yeah, maybe they did. But I think that, yeah, I think there's, but what you're saying, which I think is true is that,
Starting point is 00:11:52 all right, well, let's also take some credit. And in fact that some of this stuff just wasn't very good. And I do think that I push back with, I think superhero fatigue is very real. I think that it is also what you're saying, you've got to make things good and you've got to make things interesting for people to want to see. I think the reasons that superhero fatigue is real
Starting point is 00:12:10 is because people are way more pickier with what they're going to see in theaters. Because I think the more so what you're saying about, look, make really good movies. movies and the like the Marvel fans will go out and see these things. It's the average fan. It's the average fan that isn't paying attention to this stuff all the time that you lost. And when you lose them, that's when you're going to have disappointing numbers. Because inside of that report, they also asked about the Thunderbolts. And they said, hey, you know, Thunderbolts was so well received by the people who saw it and from critics.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Like, how do you feel about it? And he's like, I think he's right. He said the title, the title and the characters and people that you had to recognize from shows. I think he called himself out on that one. I didn't say I approved this title and I was a mistake on my end to go with this title. Like he acts as if he's at one point like he acts like he wasn't there. That's what's crazy to me. He actually is analyzing his someone else's channel or someone else's show. And it's like you were there. You approved it. So say the name that we chose was not right. The thing that we did. We thought we had the right strategy. We clearly didn't. I take ownership of that. Yeah. Both respect coaches that take ownership. of mistakes that happen, protect the players.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Faggy's not doing any of that. Sure. Acting as if he wasn't there. It's weird. It's also when you're ahead of the company, maybe it's like a, don't want to show weakness thing. Maybe he could even said something like there's some decisions that could be made.
Starting point is 00:13:40 I think that's kind of ultimately what he did. But I do. I push back with people who say it's not superhero fatigue. It's just the quality stuff. It's not. It's a mixture of both. It's a mixture of both because when there's that much of it, when there's that many superhero movies from both DC,
Starting point is 00:13:53 Marvel, all of that, your average consumers going, this is a lot, especially when there's three shows, three movies from Marvel, one or two shows from, you know, D.C., maybe something else coming out from a different brand. Invincible. Always, yeah, yeah, yeah. The genre is, it's like, if they're in the same way that it's like,
Starting point is 00:14:16 if Westerns would have popped that way in the way that they did in the fifth. Yeah, after a while, people like, I don't want to see those anymore. If you go on Pluto TV, they have like seven channels that are Westerns channels, and they'll give you a sample of what it was like to be in the 1950s, and living in America in the 1950s. There is literally a crap ton of different Western titles. So you're right to make that comparison, Christian,
Starting point is 00:14:41 and Western movies that were coming out all around that time, and eventually it popped. And now it's rare that we get a Western show or Western movie. Right. And when they do, it's like you really got to make sure. that they are resonating with people, right? And I think that's the evolution. Maybe not superhero fatigue.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Something beyond superhero fatigue, it's an evolution. We've become superhero connoisseurs. You have to bring the quality less to give a crap about it. And if you don't, we're not going to waste time with. 100%. And that's for, and that is especially true for the hardcore fans, right? Yes. And then like the casuals, you've got to do it right with marking.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Look at Superman. Superman is working with the casuals. There are tons of people going out and see that movie. Now it did, we'll talk about it a little bit, but it had a pretty solid week too. Oh yeah. It's looking like it,
Starting point is 00:15:32 it's probably going to cross around, I'd say, closer to 5, 5,500, I think, at this point. Yeah, it seems like that's where it's headed. Which is a big win for Warner Brothers overall. And I, and I like the fact that Kevin Feigy brought attention to that and
Starting point is 00:15:46 talked about the little more using it as an example of where I'd push back, a little bit more where he's like, well, look, people, I think this is ultimately what you're saying. He was like, look at this. They got superhero fatigue. He's like, no, but they, but they really went different with Superman. Yeah. They came up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:16:03 So Fantastic Four has to do that. And from everything, there's more and more people talking about Fantastic Four now, saying how like, giving it comparisons, the visuals, giving comparisons to comparisons, like, interstellar. I'm like, really? I mean, that would be a big win for them if they can get, make every single reaction that are the people who saw it are talking about visuals. But I'm also confused with this, John.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Okay, go ahead. Break it down. Who and I are both going to see this movie? Tonight. The social embargo, I thought, dropped tonight at like 9 o'clock, your time, midnight, my time. And yet, there's a ton of first reactions out there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Who saw it? How does that work? I don't know. That seems odd. Right. Since the reactions are out there, we should be able to drop our reactions after we see it. I'm going to do it. I don't care what that sounds.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Good luck. I'm not tweeting it out. If Brandon Davis can tweet out his thoughts or, I'm sorry, Eric Davis can tweet out his thoughts. I can tweet out my thoughts. It's nonsense. They're not allowed to choose who can speak about the movie or not.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I'm wondering why, because I saw a bunch of an art friend of the show, like Ash Crosson saw it. She posted about it. There were tons of people who posted about it. Someone said they moved it up apparently. They moved up the social market. Oh, they moved it up to last Friday.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Okay. Well, there you go. Oh, there we go. So there we go. We can go see. So we can post it as soon as soon as we're, done tonight you'll beat me to it good to know so that way i was going to hold the damn thing until midnight tonight it was good stay up i love how i love how the audience is the one telling the two idiots
Starting point is 00:17:32 that are going to see the movie hey don't i you know we got a million things going on yeah um well thank you guys all right well they both they both knew everybody in the audience knew these two more i thought it was odd when you said it today like i guess i had put my two i never got an update yeah i know i just thought it was not because you're right we were seeing reactions for Yesterday when I did my show on the channel, I went through some of the first reactions. Yeah. Well, you know, the other thing that Mikey talks about,
Starting point is 00:18:00 this is something that I think you and I have discussed this, myself and Winston have discussed this years and years and years ago. That as soon as this end game, Secret Wars is over. Yeah. They need to just lead with the X-Men and just let that be the Marvel Cinematic Universe is just be the X-Men, right? And I look to have a couple other movies, clearly, that are doing it,
Starting point is 00:18:25 whether it's fantastic for or whatever, but it seems like they're going to reboot. He was a little hesitant using that word, but what do you make of what is going to happen with this movie? They're planning something huge, obviously. I think the word culling is absolutely the operative word here. I think people need to be ready for that, because I think they're going to get rid of some characters
Starting point is 00:18:46 that you've enjoyed watching that maybe didn't get over, overall with the casuals and everybody else i think they're going to i mean all those you're all those characters that hercules all that stuff they mentioned kevin was it's if you read between the lines and those answers that they are deciding like it's almost like traitors they're just like ripping them off the board and throwing them on the ground they are absolutely going to get rid of a lot of these characters that have come through the last few phases because when he's talking about a singular timeline timeline that does not have a space for hundreds of these new characters they're going to caught a lot of them and either toss them into other universes that they'll maybe revisit down
Starting point is 00:19:23 the road or kill them off or they stop being heroes or they just don't even mention them anymore. And I think that's what is going to happen with this. So it's very clear that's what he's doing. So all these actors who had a nice time being a part of the Marvel universe, I think a lot of them are going to have a way, if they don't already know, they're going to have a rude awakening that they're moved off of it now for a while. So it's smart. You're pairing down to build back up.
Starting point is 00:19:48 It makes. I think that they probably, what they most likely will do is let's see how fantastic Ford does. Because if Thunderbolts will probably have one last ride in the Avengers movies and that'll be the end of them. Probably. Probably. I mean, I think she'll stick around, but I don't know if the rest. Oh, yeah. This is, but again, it's a way to cut salaries.
Starting point is 00:20:11 It's a way to cut. Yeah, yeah. Ghost is gone. Yeah. I think everybody's going to be gone at that point because if, if you're not performing. in business wise. You're not performing. You're not performing. I don't care how popular you are. You're not performing. You're not bringing in money.
Starting point is 00:20:25 That's it. So I think that they're probably going to, that's going to be their last run. And then Fantastic Four, but like, okay, let's see. The Fantastic Board is the numbers that we want, then it could be a Fantastic Four slash X-Men universe. Well, I mean, there were stories already over the weekend
Starting point is 00:20:42 that they're going to move Pedro into the lead of the Avengers, that he is going to be the leader of the Avengers. a lot of people are flipping out about that and we'll see if that's the way are they flipping out about that because i don't know you're taken away from mackie is that why no not at all i think it's more a matter if they don't want him to be the they don't like pedro some people don't like better as as reed richards they don't think he's the right casting choice to make him the lead of the avengers people are frustrated by that i think it's ridiculous he's an incredible actor but you know people have their ideas of who they want they're
Starting point is 00:21:16 John's than the fantasies, you know. That's over it. That's over and done with. Let's see how the movie is first, everybody. I can well. I want to see the movie tonight, and I'm going to say, look, one of the two things am I out of the theater reaction. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Pedro was just being Pedro, and I couldn't say, what's the difference between him or Joel or, you know, someone from one of the other movies is done, or I'm going to go, this is the right choice. They changed it up a bit. They got a guy who is a big star right now and, and they made this work. And if that is the case, if he leads and brings that kind of star charisma that he clearly has, Marvel needs that right now. They don't have a big all star right now. They don't have a big, huge all star. So if Reed Richards, and I like his, if I'm liking his character, if he's the guy that is going to be the lead, and it, It makes sense from the story they're telling from Fantastic Four leading into this.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Don't just say, oh, I don't know, a bedroom. It's like, you got to watch the show first. If you say like, oh, he's overused and he wasn't even any good in it, why are they leading with this guy? Fair. But you haven't seen the movie yet. Yeah. So that's where I lead with it.
Starting point is 00:22:34 I agree. And people have been saying, and Jeff reported this on Hot Mike as well, that it's really Sue Storm who's leading this movie. So, but Reed will have his moments to lead in the, within the film, but it's really Sue Storm story. So we're going to see what Pedro's reaction is or Richard's role is in this movie and how it's going to lead into what he's going to do with the Avengers. Because I imagine they're going to make him the reason this whole thing happens with Blackers. And how is that going to carry over?
Starting point is 00:22:59 But you know what you said earlier, I think is a really important thing that people don't seem to want to say in that they've never been able to replace RDJ or Chris Evans. Right. As the even even keeping Kemsworth, keeping the other keeping Ruffalo. No one- turned Hemsworth into a goof. Yeah, and Hemsworth right with that last one. No one's been able to step into that
Starting point is 00:23:20 Boyd. None of the new cast members. I don't care how much you love them. They haven't overall been able to step into that void. That's why they brought R.D.J. Back. Right. Star Lord could have done it, but he was the lead of his own movie. He was the lead of his own movie. He wasn't the lead of the MCU. He was lead of Guardians 3, and he had a great
Starting point is 00:23:35 story to tell and close out. But Star Lord had the potential. But that wasn't the story they were telling with it. There is no, There's no one really right now. And as much as I like Sam, and as much as I like Anthony Mackey, it hasn't worked.
Starting point is 00:23:52 No. It just hasn't gotten over like you should. We know when people get over and we know when they don't. It's like, okay, we're going to put the strap on Anthony Mackey. It's like, all right, let's see. He's going to be the champ. And it's like he won the title, but nobody really wants to see him defend it. He's the Jay Uso.
Starting point is 00:24:07 When he's in the building, people love it. But once he has the belt, it can't participate. We want to see him in the Federation. right we don't want them to get cut we just don't want them as champ that's what that's what it is that's ultimately what it and it and it happens um and it's saying that like bucky no no but he's got too many demons and he's and it's bucky doesn't seem like he wants to do that um same thing all the thunderbolts have too many demons behind it's like and it's i don't know i don't know so many demons can we deem figure your shit out yeah figure it out anyway um
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Starting point is 00:28:15 I love it. I'm a big fan. That and both Cash App. Make sure you check it out. John, yeah. Let's do some sad stuff. Oh, no. Got some sad news.
Starting point is 00:28:27 I don't know if you even heard this. Malcolm Jamal Warner. What? No! Sorry. 54 years old. Oh, no. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Sorry, John. I just found this out. Actor, accidental drowning. Costa Rica. Malcolm Jamal, the actor best known as Theodore Huxstable on the Cowesby Show has died at the age of 54, Warner died from accidental drowning off the coast, coast of Costa Rica. Police said he was caught by a high current in the water. Representatives for the actor didn't immediately respond to EW's request for comment. Born August, 1970, and named after Malcolm X and jazz pianist Ahmed Jamal.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Warner began his career with episodes of Matt Houston and fame before he broke out as theater huxtable known this kind of bill Cosby's Cliff Huxtable on the Cosby show which was groundbreaking at the time for its depiction of an affluent African-American family residing in New York City sitcom ran for eight seasons between 84-92 on NBC yada yada um for the 70 people so this is obviously he said I'm still proud of the legacy and having been part of such an iconic show that had such a profound impact on our first and foremost black culture but also American culture
Starting point is 00:29:39 I wonder if there's any more that's I mean again this is kind of going over his legacy in general but like this is horrible this is horrible like just I assume he's on vacation or whatnot or and swimming and
Starting point is 00:29:53 get me up my look I thought of my dad that happened to my dad luckily enough my dad was able to survive otherwise I was caught in the car caught yeah it was I would be not be sitting but like yeah that's horrible man
Starting point is 00:30:09 because it's like, it shows you like this. You just never know. He was healthy. Everything was going good. And that's, that sucks, man.
Starting point is 00:30:16 He was, he was great. He was, I mean, that was our childhood, you know. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:20 It's so good on the show. And I was really happy because, you know, sometimes these child actors don't get to have a second career. Don't get to have a second case after their first hit phase. And with Malcolm and Eddie, he was good. And then he was popping up all the time in different shows.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Community. Remember he was, uh, Charlie's husband. She was the husband of her. So like it was so great to see him pop up and do stuff. So he's just one of those you never heard almost anything bad about him. And he was always just plugging away working as an actor.
Starting point is 00:30:51 The interviews was over. He was always very humble about his interviews and things that he did and all of that. And so in a podcast, I believe. Oh, he did. Oh, yeah. I think so. I think so. And that's, that's rough, man.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Especially like, you know, when it just kind of comes out of nowhere. and it's it's terrible and I first family and everything every time you know you get a unfortunate story like this it's always you the first thing you do is you think about his family and his loved ones and it's horrible so Malcolm gone way way too young um like respect to um to the great career that he had and and the way he carried himself as a human being um we always try to say, I don't know how we're going to switch to get back to the unimportant when it comes to movie news compared to life, you know, and that's just so, I'm going to be honest, I'm a little shook up by that story.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Of course. I didn't either. I mean, I'm pissed off that, you know, the dad gets to stick around and he's done horrible shit to people, but Malcolm is gets taken way too early. It's only shit like that. That it's just like, I always go through different ideas. I'm always thinking about this stuff all the time about what it is that's really going on in this universe and how, what are real purposes and how things are decided and all that. And everybody has their own ideas and thoughts about what it is. But like I, you know, when you say things like that too, it's just like you just how, how certain people,
Starting point is 00:32:33 are here how certain people are not it's like i don't know it's it's it's a longer conversation but what we can do is move on to the next topic okay try to do our best and i'll try to poke a little more fun into the world and say that the good news is that john roka owes me stakes not yet it's only 600 we haven't gotten a seven yet please uh you know as well as people might see the light it goes see fast enough or go see fantastic four and It's over. Listen to this. Box office, Superman,
Starting point is 00:33:09 Tops, Fisherman, and Smurfs. Oh, Smurfs. Smurfs. This is, let me tell you about Smurfs real quick, just to show you. So my daughter goes to a party on, my oldest goes to a party on, I don't know what the hell day it was.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Was it Saturday? It was Saturday. So her friend was having a party and invited her, and they, it was very nice. Parents took them all to a movie and then took them like, to like a habachi grill, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:34 which was, which was great. And my daughter was like, it was the first time she went, it had gone to one. She was, it was great. She loved it.
Starting point is 00:33:41 And she goes, I said, I said, what movie you're going to say? She's like, Smurfs. And I'm going, holy.
Starting point is 00:33:47 And when she told me, because I had seen it, I go, holy shit, good luck to you, and I said, and my, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:53 it's my daughter. I'm like, maybe she's going to be like, because kids, you can be like, yeah, it's fine, whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:58 She says, that movie was terrible. I was like, she goes, she was like, she was like, she was like, everybody,
Starting point is 00:34:04 I guess the girls, a girl whose birthday was, she hated it too. Everybody hated that movie. It was, it was just so chaotic. She's like, my daughter was like,
Starting point is 00:34:11 it had 18 different plots. I didn't know what was happening. It is, it's atrocious. I mean, it really is atrocious. You saw it, I did.
Starting point is 00:34:19 It's, it was, it was, it was, it was, it's easily the worst movie I've seen in, in a long time.
Starting point is 00:34:24 It's really bad. Um, but the last son of Krypton looks, set to easily fend of competition from the two other old IP revivals that arrived in the marketplace this weekend. Superman is looking like it, well, we actually have the real numbers here. Let's do this. Oh, yeah, let's get the real numbers. I see what it really did. Okay. Superman is at 57.3. Currently, it's at 406. Worldwide.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Worldwide. Worldwide. Yeah. Good jump in the international. Yes, 95. 4-0-60. I think 550 is what we were saying. 550 to 600. I think anywhere between 5 and 6 is. I think, yeah, over 5 for sure. Yeah. At this point.
Starting point is 00:35:06 But I think, because I was having this whole conversation with Roxy, she thought it was going to hit 700 still. I said there's no chance they had 700. But 550, I think, is it possible? They love Superman over there. They love it. Stop it. I am going to.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Just kidding, Rock. I love. I am going to skip number two, because That's the meat of this particular story that we're talking about. But I know what you did last summer. But it only costs what? Like 25, how much,
Starting point is 00:35:31 not 25, but how much did it cost to make? It was, it was cheap. It was cheap. Only like 12 or 13. I mean, they didn't ask anybody,
Starting point is 00:35:39 like big, big names. There was 20, 25 million that's made so far. So even though it didn't do like spectacular. 18 was the budget. Okay. 18 and it's made 25 so far.
Starting point is 00:35:51 So it makes another 10, 15? worldwide? Maybe. But it's not a stinker. Yeah, but you want to film like that with that kind of pedigree and that kind of brand. Of course.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Yeah, to get to 100 at least, especially for 18. Now this thing smirfed up the joint. Now this, what's the budget on this one, John? Oh, I don't know. Let me see. I'm going to guess, and I'm going to say the budget on this movie was $90 million. And most of it's a Rihanna. Right. Right. And that's what, I mean, you don't gamble that much. I know what you did last summer, but you gamble. How much?
Starting point is 00:36:33 58 million. Okay. That's still, that's cheaper. Still. It's still. It's just so bad. I don't think it's going to make that money back. Yeah. It's just so bad. I can't imagine it's going to make its money back. But who knows. And then F1 coming in. We have 460. Where are those people are saying everyone's not making money? 460. Everyone was like scoffing. It's not a hit. It's not a hit. 460. This movie is a big hit for Apple.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Probably the biggest hit. Oh, it is. Biggest hit. By it far already. Easy. All right. Here's where it gets fun for me. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Jurassic World Rebirth has done 371 million thus far internationally. It's at 647 already. I told you. 647. This, don't bet against dinosaurs. don't do it. I've been telling everybody. I've been telling you guys for weeks
Starting point is 00:37:28 and everybody thought I was crazy. I did the miss. I had the mistake of doing it years ago. The stupid movies, no matter how bad they are, they will always make money internationally and that is where it makes its money. It really is.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I need to start adding a stupid factor to my box office. I might get more accurate because that film is so effing, terrible. I can't believe how many people are going back to see it over. and over again. Let's done 247 what
Starting point is 00:37:56 for the box office here, which is lower for that franchise here, by the way. I should have pushed it to eight. I should have pushed it eight. I wonder if I would have taken the 800. I don't know if it's still got a shot, though. It's still got a shot. It's not slowly down.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Lilo and Stitch is the only movie so far this year that made a bill. Yeah. Minecraft is right behind it, I think, like 960 or something like that. Right. But then, yeah, I think Jurassic Park is number three, I think. I think it's number three.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Over, there was another one, too, over how are you trained a dragon and all that. So, yeah, what are your thoughts on this, John? So you've been pretty vocal and saying that you think 550 is not good for Superman in D.C. So let's, yeah, and I think, how can I say this? I still think this is a disappointment in the sense of, of this is Superman. And this is the launch of your new DC universe. People liked the casting of David Corrence,
Starting point is 00:39:02 what you're bringing in James Gunn, who's been a bona fide box office success. And people are like, only in Marvel movies. It doesn't matter. You know, it's a Tarantino went to do a rom-com. You would expect it to do well. Tarantino did a Star Trek movie. You would expect it to do well.
Starting point is 00:39:18 So it's like these kind of things that people are, you know, moving the analysis to convene fit their love of the situation, I thought, to me, I still think 700 million is, was the base to be successful for this movie. It's not going to get there. I don't think that. That being said, the fact that it's gotten to $406 million in two weeks, I think speaks very powerfully about the turnaround in D.C. How much joy the fans have domestically for this movie and somewhat internationally for this movie and that they're going back over and over again and it could be possible that this is a film that legs it out to 700 or 650 and what you're making up for not getting the 700
Starting point is 00:40:04 say it only gets to 650 the goodwill the excitement the joy that people are feeling for this movie and the the much they're looking forward to the DC universe a majority of the people because of this movie I think that's worth its weight in gold and I know some people were saying that before the movie came out, but I was like, whatever, because you have to see the movie first. Having seen the movie and having seen people's reactions to the movie, now you see that there is a weight to it all
Starting point is 00:40:33 because there's an excitement to DC that hasn't been around in time. It's so funny. I can't, this movie is. Two things exist at the same time. I still think it's disappointing, but it's offset by the excitement people have for the film. Sorry, right. No, it's to say the movie is so intriguing.
Starting point is 00:40:50 to me in in i usually can gauge people that i know how they're going to feel about movies right yeah yeah yeah this one it's like i've had some people like is my friend like my friend david gambino who's been on the show he hasn't seen it okay but i feel like david would hate it i feel like he would hate it but my friend fred went and saw it and i thought that fred because i said it's very comic bookie it's not as it's not like a you know it's more comic bookie than maybe any any other Superman movie for sure. I agree. And I said, I don't know if you're going to like it. He loved it. Now, Mark Riley, I knew would love it.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Yeah. And Mark Riley loved it. Because Mark Riley read those types of the story, the comics that were based off of it. And it was one of his favorite runs. He was easy to track on that one, right? But lots of people who are like, okay, maybe they're not going to love it. Too confusing. Loved it. Maybe some people, oh, I think you're going to really dig it. hated. So I don't know. It's, it's really bizarre to me. Snyder gave it a B.
Starting point is 00:41:55 That was, that's what I'm saying. I thought Snyder would hate it. He played both sides. He said, I gave it a B, but I'm never going to see it again. So that's not his genre. I know, right. Yeah. Superhero's like that is. Right. So it's like me in a horror slasher films, right? Like, I had I had a blast with, with, I know what you did last summer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's out to see it again.
Starting point is 00:42:19 But I had fun watching it. But yeah, it's like it's one of those movies that it's, it's again, if it's not your genre, and I think it's a, he just scored it fairly. So I don't know, but Fantastic Four is going to be the real test for Superman next week, right? Because it's tracking for like 115, 120, something along those lines. The new one from Dayline or Deadline is 130. Oh, wow. Yeah, is what they're 130 to 140, I think is what Deadline said in their article.
Starting point is 00:42:49 yesterday okay and so that's an interesting number especially if they can leap over that yeah because it was at 1-110 last week and now they're i think these reactions over the weekend now pushed the possibilities of it even higher and i think as people see it tonight yeah have another wave of critics including us who are going to say if we like the film or not so i'm intrigued by this one because this is one of those movies this this rarely happens to me where yeah sometimes what happens okay I'm just not very interested in this movie. You'll go check it out. And then I wind up liking it.
Starting point is 00:43:22 That happens. Or I am very interested and they don't like it. But I become more and more interested in this movie as it got closer. Because the first couple of trailers, I was like, who cares? There's never been a really big, fantastic four person, the Marvel stuff. I'm like, let's go. What are we, what kind of story are we telling? And the first two trailers, I thought, they're fine.
Starting point is 00:43:43 I don't know. I don't know what it is. I like that last trailer. A lot is like, oh, I actually want to see this movie. Yeah. I want to see this. still think, and I could be wrong, my prediction was that at one point, I said, Fantastic Four will do the most box office wise out of the three.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Then I changed that and I said, I think Superman did. If someone called me out and said, no, no, no, you said Superman. At one point, that very well might have been true. I might have switched them back and forth. But I always thought that Fantastic Four would definitely beat Thunderbolts, 100%. And I always said, though, that I think Thunderbolts would be out of the three. the best quality movie overall storywise characters i still feel that way i still feel that way so far i enjoyed superman yeah under bolts more i i'm not gonna lie i enjoy thunderbolts more i say
Starting point is 00:44:35 that's it's in my personal taste i like that that movie i thought was just designed better and had better characters and yeah and was what i was looking for um but who knows from what i hear of fantastic four maybe maybe maybe it gets me if this thing blows up because i mean i've even seen the word masterpiece being thrown around some of these what yeah i've seen that from a couple of reactions and of course you know people who said that adam shankman i can't remember it was a couple of people said that because i was doing the i was reading through the first reactions on my show uh the truth yesterday and it was like wow this is interesting and then when the word masterpiece popped up i was like wait a minute calm slow down you calm down masterpiece
Starting point is 00:45:17 piece. Yeah, somebody did. And I was like, really? What are we doing? Yeah, yeah. What are we doing here? And so, you know, is that a young reviewer who's maybe seen like a hundred movies his entire life? Maybe, but I don't know. So we'll see how it fits, but the predominant feeling amongst all these reactions seems to be like this is
Starting point is 00:45:35 one of the best, if not the best they've ever produced. And that is shocking to me. Because you've got to go really far to come close to end game or Infinity War for me, which I prefer Infinity War of end game like you have to come really close to that yes in the conversation i could eat my words and change my stance on this tomorrow you haven't seen it yeah no no no but what i'm about to say oh okay i want somebody and it can be one of us to send a dictionary to that person that's that masterpiece and tell them there's more words out there that they can use to describe the movie because
Starting point is 00:46:11 there's no way that this movie's going to be a masterpiece but yeah yeah You could be. I can say, look, maybe for a comic book movie. To me, to me, the Dark Knight is a masterpiece. That's the movie. The Dark Night is a comic book masterpiece. Okay. Oh, here.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Yeah. POC culture. Fantastic Four is a world building masterpiece in bold letters. World building masterpiece. And a loving tribute to Jack Kirby. That's tricky. That's tricky. Maybe it's on perfect.
Starting point is 00:46:46 saying it's a world building like a master class teaching you how to you know like that not the movie itself what what are they saying and are we spending a lot of time on this of course we are I think my favorite one was from Fricky You he said
Starting point is 00:47:03 Fantastic Four is a masterpiece the visual effects and the score are a huge standout Galactus is huge in IMAX it's emotional and it gives you hope it beats you off and doesn't stop you up until the end credits who said that it's so one making fun of the first reaction is great okay it's hilarious um anyway so we'll see tonight both john and i will have um out of the theory reaction matt sarah will have it out of the theater
Starting point is 00:47:30 reaction hey great i'm looking forward to that as much as anything else um let's move past this so box office fantastic for all that and more what do you guys think Put your thoughts in there, let us know. John, because you are going to see the movie today, we're going to get to the questions a little early today. Okay, sure. Because we do. I mean, well, there's one more topic I will bring up and then we'll move on,
Starting point is 00:47:59 but that's that's when I want to switch away from comic book movies for a second. If everybody's okay with that, I want to get to, I love, I think Thomas Crown of Fair has been made like this will be the third time. Oh, yeah, yeah. I like the Pierce-Bross and one a lot. Oh, I did too. I really like that movie. I think it's underrated.
Starting point is 00:48:15 I don't think a lot of people talking about it. It's a sexy film. Yeah, well, it's about to get a lot sexier, because Avery Arjona has been set for the Thomas Crown Affair. Oh, she's really good. Born actress, Andrea Arjona has joined the latest incarnation of the Thomas Crown Affair for Amazon MGM. Arjona coming off her acclaim turn as Cassian's lover Bix in the Star Wars series andor and the co-lead opposite Glenn Powell and hitman takes over the female lead role previously set for Taylor Russell. Right. Russell. Who's Taylor Russell? Who is that?
Starting point is 00:48:44 She's an actress. Oh, thank you. That's good. I'm glad. I'll let you know that. Okay. I appreciate that. What was she in? He's in a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Oh, you look at my mother. You know, the actress. She does things. She said lines. Listen, I'm out of practice. She was in that Bones and All film. With four times in the theater. Salome.
Starting point is 00:49:04 That's right. Okay. Russell exited the movie of a creative differences shortly after filming began in London, leading to a very quick rush to secure a new female lead on short notice. Well, I think they, did pretty well in who they got. Michael B. Jordan both leads and directs the project,
Starting point is 00:49:21 which also stars Kenneth Brana, Lily Gladstone, Danigura, Pillow Aspeak, and Aisha Hart. Drew Pierce wrote the script for the film, which tells the story of an insurance investigator working to track down the perpetrator of a bank heist. The original film starring Stephen McQueen, Faydunoy, opened in 1968, and was remade in 99, with the updated version starring Pierce, Prasden, and Rener Russo. The new one comes out March 5th, 27. This is a major win for both of them. Yeah. These are the types of movies. I'll tell you, sometimes we talk about actors and actresses when they have agents that stink up the joint.
Starting point is 00:49:59 And like I was famously used Zach Efron as someone who had just bad agents. I don't know if he still has him or when he was on the up and up, you could tell he had chops and he was getting put in every piece of garbage that was coming out. And he was good and a lot of stuff. And he finally did like neighbors and other things like, no, he's really good and there's other things. But he clearly did not have a great team. They were just trying to get him in the big paydays and putting them in crap. This is the opposite.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Her team knows what they got with her. Yeah. Know how to build her. You put her in a movie like this against one of the biggest stars in the world right now and Michael B. Jordan in a movie like this where she clearly can do these types of romantic leads, but plus with this intrigue in it, I'm telling you, these types of movies. And what studios are Amazon, MGM?
Starting point is 00:50:45 These types of movies are the ones if she does not get Wonder Woman, which she will. But if she doesn't, you don't think she will? I don't think you take this role. I think the things you're saying, I mean,
Starting point is 00:50:58 the things that are coming out, right? Fast-tracking Wonder Woman. And I don't know if you saw this, Christian, this just broke on the rap. Right. But Anna Nagura is going to be writing
Starting point is 00:51:07 the Wonder Woman movie, the woman who wrote the Supergirl film. This just dropped like a couple of minutes ago from Umberto over there at the rap. And so the best show on competitor ever. And, you know, it's still the idea that Wonder Woman is being fast-tracked and they've already assigned a writer. Yeah. I don't know if you take a role like this right now.
Starting point is 00:51:30 You want to be announcing that you're going to be Wonder Woman. So I'm just, just to me makes me feel like maybe she's not necessarily going to be the choice. I think now I start looking at Barbaro as a Treherman Frere. Please, please. Listen, I love her. I want her to be it. I'm just, you don't think that our team is very aware of the things that are happening.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Look, let's get this, a little more clout here, put her in this movie, and they tell, you know, whatever, whenever they start shooting,
Starting point is 00:51:58 first of all, this is already planned for 2027, this movie, Thomas Crown. You make sure that you have times to where she's going to be available to shoot. And this is not going to be, Thomas Crown affair,
Starting point is 00:52:11 if it was a big huge blockbuster movie, that's going to take up six months, five months of her time, I would be agreeing with you. This movie's not going to be a big, huge movie that's going to take away. It's going to be a smaller scale thing that she's going to be able to do. She's going to be the lead. She's going to have to be there. But my original point of this was, let's say that you're right.
Starting point is 00:52:32 And she doesn't do Wonder Woman, right? This, it's a matter of time before she does something like a Wonder Woman. Oh, 100%. She is on that rise. She's going to be one of the big actresses that we were going to be talking about for a long time. She's got that kind of buzz behind her. She's building smartly, which is what you're getting at. I think you're 100% correct.
Starting point is 00:52:53 She's building smartly. Why? Because you're in and or. So you're working with Diego and then what Tony Gilroy brought to that show. And it was a lot of really gritty, challenging, emotional stuff that you're going through. Then you're in something like a hit man against one of the big stars, burgeoning big stars in the world in Glenn. how and now you're going to be working with Michael B. Jordan. So step by step, piece by piece, as you said, she's establishing herself as a good
Starting point is 00:53:22 opposite to the main hot male lead, but also delivering good performances within those films that expand people's attention they're paying towards her and wanting to see her more and stuff. So yes, 100% her team is building her correctly through the process because they know there's no rush. She will get there. she's going to get there. Even if she doesn't,
Starting point is 00:53:44 and I still think even if she doesn't want to do in Wonder Woman, you'll see her in one of these, whether it's, I could see her in Star Wars. I could see her in more. I can see, she's going to get one of those movies. She already is.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Well, you're right. She already is in Star Wars, clearly. So maybe no. You know what I'm saying. She can see her another avatar movie. You could see her in another avatar movie.
Starting point is 00:54:03 You could see her in one of the, right. You can definitely see her an avatar for sure. So we'll see. We'll see what the, future holds, I think there's a lot of, what I will say is whether it's her, a lot of these newer stars, it seems like there's some really good talent involved with the new stars that are coming up. It's not just about the looks. Because for a while, it was just like, who's that? It's a good-looking
Starting point is 00:54:29 person. There's no like acting chops there. There's good-looking people with good acting tell. She's gorgeous. She's dropped-dead, gorgeous, sexy. She can act. She's a phenomenal actress. I mean, She's a phenomenal actress. And that's like total package, right? And you look at some, and even on the opposite side, you look at like Alan Richon, again, good actor. I don't think he's going to be Batman. I had this whole argument back and forth with the audience.
Starting point is 00:54:58 I hope he's not Batman, I should say. Love He just don't want to mess Batman. I said this on the show yesterday. I want to see what you think. Sure. He is not the Robert Pattinson Batman. He's not even the Ben Affleck Batman. But I think if you're going with a Brave and the Bull,
Starting point is 00:55:16 if they really go forward to the Brave and Bold stuff, which is a much lighter Batman. And yes, there's still dark stuff that Joker or not. But it's much lighter. It's like Adam West a little bit. I think Alan Richardson could play that Batman if you wanted to put that Batman in the James Gunn, D.C. How old is he?
Starting point is 00:55:33 Isn't that Batman supposed to be older? Yeah, he's like 40 something. Okay. So, you know, he could have a kid. It's possible. Sure. He's a little bit older than Jake Jalen Hall, which some people have been pushing for.
Starting point is 00:55:45 And so I think it's very possible that he can fit his lighter sensibilities to play humor but still badass moments like he does in Reacher. That could work in the James Gunn, D.C. universe. And I'm going to throw another thing in there. I said this on the show here, but this is a bigger form, so I'm going to say this.
Starting point is 00:56:00 He's talked about over the weekend with Josh Horowitz. He talked about bringing Cabell back. Unded, yes, right, right. That he could bring Cabell back. He'd be open to it, love it. People already speculating. another person he said that he wanted to bring back if they were willing to come back was ben affleck oh right right ben affleck directing a brave in the bold with alan richson
Starting point is 00:56:21 as the star of brave and the bold that is a fascinating and interesting situation let me be very clear this also i i don't he's not a choice for me for batman at all because i think he's just a big jacked monster that's standing next to head to david corin so it would be correct yeah of course he can't. I like him a lot. I think he's, I think he's a star and I want to see him in everything. Yeah. Except that. However, it does get cast in that. I'm not going to go, oh, there's some people that get cast in movies. I'm like, oh, they're going to ruin it. He's going to ruin it. It's just going to be a very different take. And I'm like, how is that big jacked monster that could be fighting in the WWE going to look like he's, you know, needs technology to beat Superman when he probably could fight Superman by
Starting point is 00:57:07 himself um but i'll get over it if that's the case because i like him i think he's great sure um but i'm very curious to see where they go with it in general but i saw what did i saw i saw i saw an idiot comment on i try to stay away from on the on the capes and cows but like i made it very clear um the whole point of capes and cows is that because when you know when i was in collider i never did like they used to ask me to do heroes like oh yeah part of heroes yeah you rarely did it. Rest in peace and obviously his anniversary was just the day, but I love them.
Starting point is 00:57:39 You used to, but he used to ask me all the time to do capes. And I'm like, that's not my, I'm like, I love the movies. I'm like, but I don't have that kind of knowledge that you guys have when it
Starting point is 00:57:47 comes to comic book movies. I'm like, I don't, you guys reference comics and all like. I just, that's not my thing. And then I made a very clear to Winston and Coy. I said,
Starting point is 00:57:56 I'm going to represent the comic book movie fan who just watched movies. And you guys are going to be the comic book guys. And you can fill me in. on if there's something that needs to be read, if there's something like, you know, that, like for example, the Supergirl thing. Yeah, yeah. Like, Women of Tomorrow, I wouldn't have never know what that was.
Starting point is 00:58:16 And when you have people who say, I'm just, and maybe people didn't know that, but if you're saying, well, oh, you don't do research or professional, that's not what the point of that show is. I don't want to have three comic book nerds on the show. I want two of them. That's how to tell my dad, basically, this is what this is based off.
Starting point is 00:58:33 And then I go, oh, okay, well, I can relay that. to the audience that doesn't read the comics. Yeah. That's, it's not a hero's reboot. It's not what, that's not what Capes and Cal is. Capes and Carlos is a version of two comic book people who, Coy, who's like the Uber comic book guy, Winston, who's the pretty much a pretty well-versed in comics.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Yes. And me, who hasn't read maybe comics since like the G.I. Joe Marvel comics and X-Men comics growing up. That's the dynamic of that show. And I love that show because of it. So just for people in, in general, maybe and I also have to also realize it's also people who probably are coming in whether they saw my reactions with sam or saw an out of the theater reaction and i haven't
Starting point is 00:59:14 really emphasized that so how would they know that so just making it clear to people in general that's that's kind of what that shows um let's get to some questions john let's do it let's do i want to ask you some questions and i want to have them answered immediately who is your daddy what does he do fuba do you watch it no i don't Do you? No, but I want to now. And I want to even more so because, because Karyann Moss was just on Katie Sackoff show. Yeah, I saw that. That was great. Doing a lot of the, I'm, you know, I, I, I produce her clips channel. Yeah. So, and I've been watching all the clips and I was like, she makes me want to watch the, um, that show.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She was Monica Barbaro's in the show as well. She is. Um, you know, and it's funny too, because as I have mentioned many times over, we're working on the, pilot the direct I'm working on a Kickstarter for pilot and the director has it currently getting on a phone call with the with the potential director soon um but my writing partner who everybody hopefully will will meet in this she she reminds she she she's like a cross between kary ann moss and um phoebe waller bridge oh nice and so when i'm watching karyan moss talk it reminds me around i'm like oh my god if we get to a level where we can actually do a season i have to have we got to go about to, if we get that kind of budget, go up Carrie Ann Moss as her sister.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Have to. I feel like if you meet her quote and you deliver a good product, Carrie Ann will do it. If I'm telling you, if I get, if I get this director on board, we're going to be in good shape. We're going to be in good shape. But, you know, anything can happen. All right, John, before we move on to the questions, where do you, where can people find you, what's going on on on the channel? I got a lot going on.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Yeah. That's why we, okay. Well, we're focusing on you at some of it. I don't even know. Tell me about the channel, bitch. Anyway, it is the John Roker channel. It was becoming the John Roker channel here. We're going to start that in August,
Starting point is 01:01:20 but we're slowly moving into that. You see the new graphics. We are there. YouTube.com slash John Rokas. We'll have a, you know, I'll do my reaction tonight. We'll have a hot mic episode tomorrow talking to all the gun and foggy stuff. You know Jeff's got opinions on that.
Starting point is 01:01:33 will we get into geek buddy stuff too in Comic-Conn this week. So covering all the Comic-Cons stuff. Head on over there YouTube.com slash John Roker says. My new show, The Truth, every Sunday, where I just break down the big stories of the week or box office and tell you what I think of the truth is behind all these
Starting point is 01:01:48 issues. So head on over there. Please follow along the John Roker channel. Oh, and my Predator Badlands reaction is up. The new trailer is awesome. Oh, is it? Okay. I was sorry. I was giving you the Gen Z stare. Oh, we don't. Have you heard about the stupid?
Starting point is 01:02:03 thing? No, I don't, you know, I don't keep time. Yeah. I don't know. I think ends east stairs where you're looking. You know what? I'm sorry, brought it up. Okay. Yeah. Sorry about it. I don't want to talk about it. All right, let's see. Let's get to questions. I shouldn't even brought it up. Wait, wait, Christian. Are you watching the Billy Joel Doc? I haven't started yet. I haven't. No. I haven't. Okay, okay. I can't wait. I'm going to watch it. I think this afternoon.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Yeah, Billy Joe's great. Have you ever seen a concert, I assume? I've never seen him in a concert. Really? Oh, dude. I saw him. At the Hollywood Bowl, it was great. That's great. I took Makuga with me. Yeah, I did. All right. Your personal information is being sold online right now, not by hackers, but by data brokers. Companies you've never heard of that collect your personal information and sell it.
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Starting point is 01:04:30 What? That's what that's what they... That's what they say. Quote, quote, they're rebooting because they have not been doing well these last days. And they think if they go back to what worked in the past, it'll work now going forward. Yeah, that's nothing to do with DC. It had nothing to do with DC. They were already planning this.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Again, we've been talking about this for three years. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So next one here. And this is Parker, Haller, 47, 38. Feels very desperate and cowardice. Marvel's too scared to do the work with new characters, so they're playing it safe.
Starting point is 01:05:02 This will lead to comparisons and disappointment. You can't recapture the magic of the OG Avengers cast. I'm not going to say that yet. I haven't seen the movie. After you see the movie, then you can see if it just feels like a nostalgia, you know, circle jerk. You know, but right now, let's see if that's what it's going to take us to get to X-Men and they can find a way to do it and add some emotion to it. I'm not going there.
Starting point is 01:05:28 I think it's fair to be trepidious or cautiously concerned about how it's going to go down, but we have to see how they do, you're right. We have to see how Secret Wars, if they pull it off. If it's a, if it's a mess, it might be the end of them. Honestly, it could be very, very well. And I might say, look, that, that just did not work at all. They're just, they were thrown against the wall, but you can't. And I guess I just, I won't call it desperate yet. I won't call it desperate. If they can find a way that they, if they sat around the room going, look, how do we get to a place where we can just do X-Men movies and make it fit into the story, what we can do with, and ending this multiverse stuff. How do we do that?
Starting point is 01:06:04 What kind of story we can tell? And if they crack the story, I'm not going to call it desperate. Of course. If they crack the story, yeah. Parker follows it up and says, this isn't the same as recasting James Bond or Batman. They can call it a reset, but it's the same story and narrative of the OG characters. Again, you have to see the movie first. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:20 You have to. And Doom is not going to be Thanos. So it's going to be a completely different villain, which will cause different reactions. Yeah. So you're not factoring in that he looks like Tony Stark. Right? That's a massive thing. You know, this is a question that I was going to ask you. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:35 I want to ask everybody. Who would you say, for, don't think about it too long. Okay. Who is the, in the MCU? Who was the greatest hero in the MCU? Iron Man. Everyone is going to say that, right? Right.
Starting point is 01:06:51 I don't understand how the answer isn't Loki. I don't understand. Like, after finishing, and I think that the reason why is how, did everybody watch season two? Yes. 20 Stark saved one universe. Loki saved life. But we don't know what the consequences are of what he did.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Right now, we live with the amounts of universes. He said, countless. But what are the repercussions of what he did? That's what we haven't seen yet. I might give it to you, but we got to do the repercussions.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Fair enough. I say as we stand today, as we stand today, He, I'm looking at, Sam and I were watching them, we're putting our finale up as soon as the show over. It's like how, no one ever talking. You could ask 40 Marvel fans. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:45 I don't know if any of them would say Loki first. Most people would say Tony Stark. I think, Lord's Stark or Captain America. Right. I think Loki hands down is, because of what he did, his overall, what he did. I like Tony Stark. the most right and that was an emotional moment who's the hero what's it uh and and this is where
Starting point is 01:08:07 again the comic book nerds what what's it called 616 is that was that what earth prime yeah 616 right so the sacred timeline is that is that what he's on the sacred who's the hero of of that there's no argument it's tony star but the the the overall loki and i won't and i'm you can make all the arguments in the world um i i i just won't concede well no i think it's fair my my thing is that i i think i would push back on one thing and that i don't think he saved just one universe killing thanos he saved quite a few galaxies and universes because thanos was going to keep gutting universes and galaxies whenever he wanted to so by wasn't he was he was gonna come back and keep doing more who how do you know how do you know the timelines are fixed we you know we don't know come on the little
Starting point is 01:08:55 yankee no the little yankee no the little yankee i voted undecided hard to reboot the nc with the Infinity Saga's like it's DC without seeing Avengers 5 and 6 first. That's fair. Yeah. Totally fair. John, you got 36 so far. Oh. Trying to set the week, trying to get to, can you do yet another week with 100?
Starting point is 01:09:17 That's how you're going to beat, because Roxy and Mike made a serious push to try to beat you last week. They got close, but no cigar. Drifty, 1290. I get it's popular to hate on the MCU, but I think Feigey should have stayed silent. Bode Mayo went on a rant and, things seem sketchy around it did bo to may have going to rant about this bo and uh yes bo i went off on this stuff bo and i are following each other now on twitter and he reached out to or he posted on one of my posts and he says he wants to come on my show should talk about this stuff so i think i might have
Starting point is 01:09:47 bo on talk to both of us because he did because he's from following both of us and um i was like you know we should we can have a full-on either way or he goes in yours goes on mine we do the same thing we can cross cross uh cross examine it well i mean what he what he mainly is calling out is that not that Feigey was floating about them wanting to pivot to Doom before Ant Man 3 even came out, which is nonsense. I don't know offense to Faggy. I know he's got a brand to protect and he's got a restrily. I don't buy that.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Absolutely. They were not pivoted at RDJ before. That's nonsense. Before that, why you put that post credit scene in there? Why are you working on animation projects with King? Why are you doing a live act? What is it called King Dynasty?
Starting point is 01:10:25 That's simply not true. Because if you were going to, if you're going to, if you did do that, at that point, And so for people who are wondering what that we're talking about, at one point, again, Kevin Feigy had said in that article that they were planning on going, Kang wasn't working, they were going to go away from Kang as the mean, before the John of Major's stuff happened, it seemed like, right? So that, if that's the case, and you're working before Quantumania, when you get to the post-credit scene, he's like, hey, let's just cut this scene.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Let's just get him, he gets carried away by ants. He fights, he fights Scott and the thing. Scott kind of beats him and then that's kind of it and then we'll take care of it until that'll be end of it. Don't put that post credit scene in there. They put the same in there. Right. Again, it all happened under Figey's watch. Right.
Starting point is 01:11:11 So for him to play like separate watching, observing. This makes no sense. You made no sense. Hank Pimp. Yeat, would you rather, Heyman gives Braun the briefcase for heat and moves on from Seth or Seth catches his in return for a couple months. The first part.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Yeah. First part. Especially now that they had Braun job to a punt. punk yes so like i'm like you just start building around bra i don't know if that was the smart move to do i think they could have found a different way for punk to to get there punk's gonna win he's gonna beat got there right he's got it you think they'll put the strata one more time you have to it's like you can't keep giving the guy like he went up at the scenea didn't do it this is how we're gonna win his championship have him do that and then yeah you know the feud with set in him
Starting point is 01:11:56 works wonders whether they each other in real life or not It works wonders. There's got a Brett Hart, Sean Michaels thing going on. It's great. I was at the cage match in the garden. It was fantastic. I bet, dude. It's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Great match. He is. And so Seth. So when they come back and we'll see how it plays out. But let Braun have a run. I'd like to see Bronn with the real strap, too. But I don't know where eventually. Yeah, eventually, but we'll see where it goes.
Starting point is 01:12:23 But yeah, I'd rather see Heyman. Pay attention to what they need. And they need to build up their stars because eventually look. Yeah. Seth's great, but he gets hurt all the time because his body's wearing down. Yep. Yeah. Tom Hanks, I watch Basic Instinct.
Starting point is 01:12:35 Hot damn, Sharon Stone. The first time you've seen it? Oh, my God, yeah. One of the hottest movies ever. Jeff and I thought about this on the hotline. Yeah. What do you think of this idea of them bringing back 80-year-old Joe Esther House to write a basic instinct reboot for Amazon, M.G?
Starting point is 01:12:52 That's what they announced. They're paying him $4 million to do it. What does an 80-year-old know about sex? erotic sex thrillers today yield to 30 year olds give me a break give me a break i understand the argument against both sides but i wouldn't i wouldn't fight you on it you know if it's like it depends on if they're paying it and who they pay and it be in it and it's like are they are they going for a kind of like you know cheesy kind of like 90s feel if they're going for that thing then you bring esther house back see what he can do with it but if they want to actually try
Starting point is 01:13:26 to reboot it and make it seem like fit what's going on today, then no, he's not the guy for it. Said it in a nursing home? I'll have him right. The 20s and 30s is nonsense. Just utter nonsense. I'm not going to argue with you. Joe for show 24, you think the end of secret wars will have any similar areas to
Starting point is 01:13:42 D.C.'s Crisis Uninfinite Earth's storyline. See, this is, again, where I defer to you, John. Well, yeah, I did. I mean, if you, Crisis on Infinite Earths came first. If you read the original one, which I own every issue of from the 1980s, that's what Secret Wars kind of took their motivation from. So, and then there was another, uh, DC crisis on Infinite Earths that came afterwards, and that's probably what the one they're basing it on now. So, yes, there are similarities between the two situations for sure.
Starting point is 01:14:10 But it's different how it all turns out and how they get rid of certain heroes. So yeah, similarities for sure. Okay. Let's see. Next one is from the DX Batman one. Back to Formula. Yeah. Tyler Pfeiffer, 92.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Master and Commander came out the same year as the first Pirates and the third Lord of the Rings movie, which is a shame because it's an absolutely phenomenal movie. I have to revisit it because I'm pretty sure it's 2003 is when it came out. I saw that. I remember it clearly seeing it. I saw it at the Grove with my ex-girlfriend. I remember being excited for it and fairly bored. But I don't know.
Starting point is 01:14:49 I can't tell you that I've ever seen it since. That's cool. And I would probably have to probably would want to revisit it. Is it good? I love it. Yeah, we did a series of it on the Cinephiles. We broke it down with my co-host, Steve Morris. And we brought in a podcast that is called The Lover's Hole, and they were big Patrick
Starting point is 01:15:09 O'Brien fans, and they were big into this Master and Commander film. And so we broke it down moment by moment. And it's such a fantastic film. But I don't think it ever was going to be this massive hit. It is a big hit for the people who love it. It's one of those films that, like, the people who love it, really effing love it. But it's never going to appeal on a mass base like Lord of the Rings or pirates. It didn't get drowned out by those two.
Starting point is 01:15:33 It was never going to appeal on a larger scale because it's a very unique type of film in that genre. And not a lot of people are like, let me see an old school film from the 1700s on a ship. And it's just not going to work. Right. I do want to get out again. I mean, I need crazy. Well, there you go. Tyler Fiver.
Starting point is 01:15:51 The chemistry between Chrome and Bettney is outstanding. I watched historian react to it. He said it's pretty much completely accurate. Yeah. All right. We got a new member, Boston leading. Thank you, Boston. Make sure you check out some of the stuff that we got going on.
Starting point is 01:16:05 We got a lot of actually putting the unedited reaction out to, I think it's, shoot, which one is it? I think I just sent one over today. We have a lot, we have a ton of ones that we've done from Marvel, so we have a good one coming out. Merford, Durf. What if the funniest scene you've ever laughed at at a movie theater? Mine was the M. Kane S. Martin,
Starting point is 01:16:23 Martin, Steve Martin, whipping scene in dirty round his schedules. I will tell you, one of the hardest I laughed in a theater because I wasn't expecting it, and I didn't really even know who he was back then was Steve Carell in in Bruce Almighty. Oh yeah, when he's doing the news.
Starting point is 01:16:39 It killed me. I was, I was crying, laughing. It killed me. It's because he can't stop himself and the frustration in between the bursts. It's amazing. I think for me, this is the moment. It was the heat, the Sandra like Melissa McCarthy movie.
Starting point is 01:16:56 When they make the albino joke, I lost it in the theater. Just lost it for like 20 to 30 minutes. I had to go and sit somewhere else away from my friends. Okay. So I could not stop giggling. Like I laughed so hard for 20 to 30 minutes. Such a genius joke.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Such a very funny. You look a little pale. Oh my God. I lost it. I've seen that in a while. I remember liking the movie though. Mike Joyce, Eddington was a little too real.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Any plans to see it? I had a screening for it last week. I just was around the same. It was, it literally was on the same day. I saw Smurfs and I know you did that summer back to back. Oh, by the way,
Starting point is 01:17:31 John, no thoughts on Luca's new movie? Which one? After the hunt. After the hunt. Oh, yeah, the trailer looked great. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:17:41 I told you see what I was talking about now? Yeah, no, you're right. At the first 20 seconds, I was like, ugh, rich people crying about what now?
Starting point is 01:17:47 And then when it made the turn, I'm like, okay, now I'm in. Now I'm in because this looks really complex. And it looks like they're not afraid to talk about this stuff and look at the nuances of the situation and how selfish people can be. And that to me is like, yes, now I'm on board. So yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:05 nominated. Yeah, Iow it to Beery. People talk about her and Julia to be nominated for best supporting and best actors. So yeah. Boston lady. Hey, Rocha. Christian sending support. Do you think Loki holding on to the sacred timeline will be destroyed?
Starting point is 01:18:20 Oh, man. Amazing. Maisie, I said, maybe. I don't know. I mean, Doom, Doom's going to want to mess up some stuff. And I feel like that's going to eventually come down with him and Loki and that sacred timeline because that means Loki's messing with his timeline. I feel that Doom's going to have something to say about.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Yeah, I'm very curious to how that's going to work out. Speaking of, I said, Macy, I was talking about the little one. Oh, yeah. Stuff that she said. there was um i was driving with my wife and um and my little one we were coming we were going back and forth to uh you know so you were moving and so as we're driving sky or or could have been guy or i don't know driving i was driving really uh in this one spot and this person is weaving back and forth i'm like get out of the way right so i move over the side i'm like come on you idiot
Starting point is 01:19:14 and i and i had my hat off and i and i press i said get out of the way and i put my hat up and i hear from back means he goes Oh, look out, everybody. He's putting his hat on. It was the best. My wife and I started dying. It was the best. So she's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:19:36 It was hilarious. It was absolutely hilarious. Psychedelic space. What big characters will doom kill in doomsday? I think more than you're even going to imagine. And he's got to beat. He's got to kill Thanos. He's got to, right?
Starting point is 01:19:50 Yeah, yeah, because there's a lot of rumors that Thanos is coming back. So yeah. Yeah, like and, you know, show me how he just like bitches him. I just hope people are ready, man, because a lot of your favorites are going to get killed. And especially people. And stay dead. And stay dead. And especially people who've been advocating for like, you know, more representation.
Starting point is 01:20:12 There's going to be some of these being killed. And so I hope people look at the bigger picture when they go see this movie or these movies because people are going to be killed across the board. And so it's get ready. Mr. Dave, 2K, I think you're crazy if you believe that the MCU will only be X-Men after Secret Wars. They're going to release three X-Men
Starting point is 01:20:31 a year until 2032. Silly. I didn't say just. I said they're going to focus on them heavily, making sure that they are the main through line. They're going to clearly, that's why I said before, and I might have said this after you wrote this comments, or you didn't hear me. But I said that fantastic four,
Starting point is 01:20:48 depending on how good it will, they'll also be leaning on them. And they'll probably have some other side movies, whether it's Avengers or other things, but they're going to lean big. They're going to stay away from the obscure stuff. Because Blade clearly, they still want to do,
Starting point is 01:21:02 they want to do these other things, and they can still fit it in there. But the main focus is going to be X-Men. So I think you're crazy if you don't think that X-Men is going to be the main focus of the MCU. Well, I think by extension, it's going to be the mutants. But the X-Men are going to be the top.
Starting point is 01:21:19 That everything branches on the phone. So yes. The only thing, but it's going to be the main thing that they focus on. Reggie Brown, 9508, the MCU problem goes back to the tragedy of Chadwick Boseman. He was set up to be Avengers leader. Part of the MCU poor with Reed and Professor X. I think there's a lot of truth to that, too. I think there's a lot of truth to that.
Starting point is 01:21:36 Yeah, 100%. That combined with COVID and the strikes, they have never been able to find their footing since. Yeah. Eddie Leah, 9315. Disagree that MCU doesn't have bankable stores. Not one of us said they don't have bankable stars. Holland, Benedict, and Hemsworth movies all made money. Not saying they don't have bankable stars.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Said they don't have all stars at the moment to lead the team. Tom Holland is not going to lead the Avengers. Maybe they could have them lead the Avengers. Spider-Man potentially, the problem with that is Sony. That's the problem with that, is the Sony of it all to how much you're going to have to do that. Hemsworth has already become a goofball in the last one. They have to redeem it. And Thor has never really been the leader of the huge.
Starting point is 01:22:19 humans, he's a god. So you're talking star power in general. We're talking about who's going to lead the X-Men as far as they're a all-stars plus the fact you're talking about three of the old regime. They don't have new all-stars. They don't have anybody new. So all those movies that made money, great. And Better to Commerbatch is also, if Strange ain't going to lead the X-Men, I mean the X-Men, the Avengers. So you're talking about all three old, you have two different things here. We're talking about bankable stars and the leader of Avengers. Point has not been made on that one. I think if you were able to keep Holland,
Starting point is 01:22:54 you could move him into being leader of the Avengers. Like, you could build to that possibility. Because it's time Spider-Man has led the Avengers. But he's moving on from the character. So they're not going to make him the lead. Dr. Strange is clearly don't want him to be the lead of the Avengers. Because as much money as these have made in their respective films, none of them can replace R.D.J. or Chris Evans,
Starting point is 01:23:15 None of them in terms of mass appeal. Yet their movies have made money separately. Yeah. Bankable Stars is completely... We didn't say bankable. That's a very different argument. Very different argument. I am Cool Cash, CG.
Starting point is 01:23:29 What are y'all's hopes and predictions for first steps? Any theories on the PCS? I hope the PCS is a continuation of what happened in Thurnables. What's the PCS? I don't know. I don't know what the PCS is. What else can those know that? What are your hopes and predictions for first steps?
Starting point is 01:23:44 I mean, I'll be honest, the thing I'm actually really excited for for all of the first reactions are these visuals. Are they that good? Yeah, I know. It's a good question. Multiple people, John, multiple people have said interstellar comparisons. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I hope, like with Christian, I hope I'm wowed by what I'm seeing.
Starting point is 01:24:05 I hope I'm actually stunned and that it's a good movie and that I enjoy the characters. But most of it more than anything else, I'm hoping that it has a good heart and I care about these characters and the relationships that they're going and the things that they're going through. That's really the number one thing. Visuals are cool and all, but do I care about the characters and the story? And I think he's talking about post-credit scenes, PCS.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Oh. Oh. I got to assume Doom's going to show up, right? The Russo shot the post-credit scenes. So I imagine those are going to lead us to dooms down. Doom's got to show up. Doom's got to show. Big Bang,
Starting point is 01:24:42 O-T-4. Batinson for the DCU. the gun didn't jam. I think gun pretty much shot that down on uh Josh Horowitz. He kind of did. Yeah. He said we thought about it. We have thought about it, but it may not be the plan we're going with. That thing is dead. I mean, I think it's much more possible after having seen the movie Superman than I thought before. You do? Yeah, I do because I think there's a lot of darkness in Superman. I mean, Luther shoots someone to death for God's sakes and it right point blank. And so there is darkness within it. It's just got the people just focus on the light of your goofier side. but Luther's doing some pretty brutal crap in the movie. So at the end of the Batman, it's the sun is coming out.
Starting point is 01:25:20 He understands he has to now care about people. He has to dial back into the Gotham City people. So there's possibilities to make hip fit and Superman better. I just don't think they're going to do it. All right. Let's see. Brian O'Neely, last week you wondered by people in Europe didn't see Superman for AC during a heat wave.
Starting point is 01:25:39 In Ireland, we don't get sun often when we go outside when we do. fair I don't blame you I don't blame you he follows it up I lived in New York 11 years ago every New Yorker I worked with half of them older than me said what happened I hated it but I don't think it's a younger gen thing it's a younger gen thing when you ask what let me be clear it is not the what happened in general someone saying what happened it's that I asked the kid if they took apple pay and he worked there and he said his first response to well it happened I'm sorry, sir, what did you say? Excuse me?
Starting point is 01:26:15 I'm not talking to my friend about, hey, you dropped the pizza on the floor. What happened? That's totally different. People saying what happened in general, but that was customer etiquette. John, I have fully embraced the old man grouchiness to more than I could eat. Welcome.
Starting point is 01:26:34 I never. And I didn't. I'm going to preface this part here. I never and I didn't complain. to servers, because I used to be one when I'm there. Right, right, right. But I can still be a critic. And when I, and, and I'm pretty, I'm pretty easy when I go into these places and I usually
Starting point is 01:26:54 always tip, always tip 20% and over. 20 to 25, yeah. Always. When I go in, I went, we kept going, I don't, I want to say that the place we went to, but we go to this place often, family. And every time we go there, this particular server who's just fantastic. Cindy, love Cindy. She's great.
Starting point is 01:27:11 Cindy wasn't near yesterday. So we had someone else and we'll have had that person before. And the last time the person wasn't great. I was like, yeah, maybe, you know, maybe this time around the person's,
Starting point is 01:27:22 uh, come around. Terrible. Terrible. Like, forgot, didn't give a shit about coming back and asking, hey,
Starting point is 01:27:31 does anybody need a drink? Uh, freaking, this one steak that I got at this, I get a steak salad at this place. What do you do when you order steak? What's the first thing that the server should ask you, John?
Starting point is 01:27:42 You order steak on anything. How do you want it made? 100%. Never asked. I was eating charcoal bricks on this salad. Didn't send it back. Didn't say shit because I don't do that. But I hated every second of every chew, and I'm chewing up bullshit when I'm eating this thing.
Starting point is 01:27:59 And then, like, every, every, that I ordered a soup. I ordered a soup that I wanted to come early. I wanted to come early. Soup doesn't come. Salad comes out with the steak on and everything too. And I said, again, like I said, I am never, ever rude to servers. I said, oh, excuse me, you know, the, I just care about the soup. You know, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's coming.
Starting point is 01:28:21 She forgot about the fucking soup. You forgot about the soup. Came out after my salad. I still ate it and didn't say, shit. Sounds like a personal, like she's, it sounds like she has a personal vendetta with you. 100%. I didn't say shit. I was like, okay.
Starting point is 01:28:36 But I didn't give 20% this time. Give 15. That was it. That was it. I think that's fair. I mean, you can't expect the tip if you're not going to deliver strong service. I'm with you. I saw this person maybe, maybe two or three times the entire time I was eating there with it from
Starting point is 01:28:52 an hour. Two or three times at the end. Oh, can't get you anything else or you want the check? Now I see you when you want the check. Get out of here. What happened? What happened? Geek load stores.
Starting point is 01:29:04 How do you guys feel about Schnep possibly loving this month with Superman, Patzegra? He would have loved it. Yeah. I remember him calling this things poop clouds always me laugh RIPA King is what he's he But he'll he would have been in in bliss oh yeah He might have had a he might have had of one of those classic transformers rants about the Jurassic world movies too Yeah after um Oax there he is what's up my man uh matt shackman clarified his read comments saying in the comics
Starting point is 01:29:33 He has led the Avengers also I'd argue if Marvel made a better movie with sam people who buy him as leader, but more. I wouldn't, and I wouldn't argue with you on that. Bobby, I don't know. I don't know that Mackey necessarily has that energy. Like, it happens. It doesn't mean he's not a good actor. It doesn't mean he's not, he doesn't deserve to be Captain America. I think he does. But I don't know if Mackie has, like he ain't Denzel. He ain't Chadwick Bowesman. You're going to make one to one comparisons. You would follow Denzel. You would follow Chadwick. I don't know if people would necessarily follow Anthony. I don't know. Anthony. Look, I'll defend Anthony.
Starting point is 01:30:12 It's like we were talking about before. Yeah. You know, it's like, you're like right there. And they tried so many times to get like that push to, again, to the championship. And he just, just can't, he's just not, can't defend it. Carlton Rudder, London calling. So Oasis in concert yesterday. What band or artists have you seen live that has blown you away and which ones did you die to see? I'll tell you. The ones that I couldn't, my wife and I, I think it was 2000 and, in 16.
Starting point is 01:30:40 It was either late 16 or early 17. It was before my wife wasn't pregnant yet and it was before our, before Macy. We saw Guns and Roses at Dodger Stadium and thought they were going to be terrible because, you know, it was years later
Starting point is 01:30:56 they had, they were incredible. It was one of the best concerts ever went to. As far as died of said, I mean, hard to do now, obviously, but I always bummed, I mean, it's impossible because they haven't been on tour in like 20 years but uh pink floyd i always wanted to see oh yeah yeah uh what banner a we've seen a lot of you've blown you away i i don't really go to college as much so i i would uh what would i say i don't know uh i don't know the edm stuff like i went
Starting point is 01:31:27 to see zed i thought zed was incredible bloom bloom me the hell away and uh yeah so yeah um yeah which ones would you die to see um Beatles, I guess. Oh, yeah. We're going that far back to doors. Yeah. Matt Bull, what's up, James? Do you guys check out the Hawanning Goldberger interview? I saw a lot of it. Did you see it? What a putz. What a fucking pot. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:31:49 What an effing puts. Wow. Oh, they didn't. They cut off. They wouldn't do that just, you know, you know what? I deserve something better. You are a crap wrestler and you have been for a long time. Gunther did his
Starting point is 01:32:04 best to carry your old bones around the ring and deliver a semi-decent match, but you couldn't even do that. So to blame an up-and-coming champion for not being able to carry your old ass around the ring with your limited skills to me, I thought was supremely insulting to the business, insulted to Gunther, and insulting to himself. And to pass that off was just mind-blowing to me. What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:32:29 It's also how you really feel. Lesdie 266. Heath Ledger was a masterpiece. Diff, definitely not the movie. Agree to disagree. Agree to disagree. Jake, who are you? Ray Ho. What are you doing? Getting groceries.
Starting point is 01:32:44 That bit still cracks me up. It was my favorite. What was she doing there? What was that a lady doing there? She was only there to ask that stupid question. Is she a neighbor? She's taking care of the house? Oh, you? Ray. Ray-ho.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Stupidest thing I've ever seen. So dumb. JJ was done at that point. Just put it in there. Any funny camping stories I'm going this weekend, Daniel Breen. I am not a camping. I am not a camping. I don't even know if I've ever done it. You've crazed your tools with the wilderness to knock yourself now. I hate it. Crashing Coyote. Can't watch live moving into a new apartment. Amazing. Anybody's for first time moving in with two best friends after college and we're in New Jersey, close to New York City, any pizza wrecks? Yes. So what I will tell you is so importantly does that,
Starting point is 01:33:38 the one by pizza go to just type in day port on number one our highest rated pizza score and it's in jersey and it's like this oven it's like been around for like almost like 80 years or 90 years and it's in jersey and it's a place i wanted to try i haven't been out there yet but i hear it's got like a 9.8 or something crazy so uh go and check that out that's where i was at i don't know how far in jersey it is but you should you should check that out because jersey's fairly big um go pal i'm a huge Thomas crown fan i love as you're for and i hate that it's been long enough for the remake to go again excuse me while i crumbled the dust in 99 they switched bank robbery to art because they thought it'd be a hard sell to as a
Starting point is 01:34:19 bank robber as a hero do they go back this time al luigi i'll tell you i like the art element to it i thought i classed up the joint yeah i'm telling you i would rather them stick with art i i've never seen the original have you seen the original well yeah of course yeah if you're You're McQueen completest. Do you watch those? Okay. So do you prefer the McQueen version or the... Oh, I prefer the...
Starting point is 01:34:43 Yeah, because him and Faye Dunaway don't have strong chemistry in the film. So I think it's much better with the... Yeah. All right. Mike Joyce. Alan Richardson for Bain or Zod? Yeah. He needs a lead, like a hero lead.
Starting point is 01:34:57 I just not... I don't know if that's it. Levi R-127. Jensen, Enkels for Batman. It would be perfect. I like him. I like him. I like Josh Hartnett.
Starting point is 01:35:07 I like obviously Brandon Ralph. Yeah. I don't, I don't. I think if you're going to do a TV series, you put Jensen Eccles in there. I don't think if you're going to do the film version of it, I don't think you make it, Jensen Ecles.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Yeah, that's fair. Pinwheel's reviews. Hey. I enjoyed Superman, but I think I'll like Fantastic Four more. What's your opinion on the old Fantastic Four movies? And cheesy farts. I haven't seen them in quite a long time, but they're pretty much cheesy fart. Yeah, I watched them recently for a new podcast.
Starting point is 01:35:41 We were a guest on FM DeMarco's new podcast, and it was rough to watch those films again. So bad. But I'll say this, the first 20 minutes, 30 minutes of the most recent one, the Josh Trank one, they're the best fantastic four film. And then it just falls off a cliff. Yeah, he was just going through the absolute shits, uh, Trank. at the time. Yeah, yeah, not good. Unknown 5-5-1-2. Hey, Christian Roka. I think certain characters like Hulk 4 Black Panther
Starting point is 01:36:12 could really use a reboot restructure and maybe some other worlds. Would love to see D.Mson and his Tchala thoughts. I hope that happens. I really like, I think that John and I are on opposite pages when it comes to him in F1. I thought he was great. I thought he was good F1. He just wasn't used enough. But I didn't see enough of him to think he could be a good Black Panther in that movie. Okay. I will see. Tim Bino,
Starting point is 01:36:36 predictions for Fantastic Four's first Rotten Tomatoes score. I'm going to say 91%. Critics or audience? Critics. I'm going to say 91. Because it doesn't, it's all of the early ones
Starting point is 01:36:50 that have come out already. And a lot of those were not just influencers. A lot of critics and other people too that have went to see it. They're all glowing and not say, usually if it's like, you know, some of it, they're all glowing. They're all going nuts. So I'm going to go, I'm going to go 91.
Starting point is 01:37:05 I will go, Price is right, and I'm going to go a dollar more, 92. Bobby Jackson, I think Hulk is the greatest hero in the MCU. He's the one that brought the universe back. Tony just made Thanos and his minions disappear. Again, in the MCU, and all of the MCU over Loki, how? What's one universe? One. And also, Bojacks, do you forget that Tony is the one who came up with time travel?
Starting point is 01:37:32 like that happens right not him coming up with time travel and he didn't want to do it right Tony figured about Tony they wouldn't even gone back yeah he dragged him right yeah and holcomb almost blew up ant man by doing it's right yeah um Tim marsh or T Lomarsh Loki doesn't come up Christian because he was always seen as a villain it's true it's the Disney plus effect had this happened in film then he would be here I could not agree with you more your point I couldn't agree with you more that's 100% the reason 100% because you again it goes to the marvel problem you have to have watched the shows yep yeah and the movie is the bigger medium you are 1 000 for a percent correct yeah uh Levi gee just tuned in about 30
Starting point is 01:38:15 minutes you guys see the writer of supergirls officially writing wonderman yeah we talked about it a little while ago uh broker brought it up and an agora yep Tyler by how good is Ronald Ocuna Jr that throw I didn't see it I didn't see it either oh yeah you got it I didn't see it If the Yanks, was that last, oh, was that the Braves guy? I can see what that catch. Yeah, I missed it. I missed it last. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:41 Right. Unknown. I missed it. And I'm kind of glad it. Fargy was under a mandate by Disney and he lost control over the quality of the content and when or where it was being to release. So it's not his fault. That's, you can't say it's not his fault.
Starting point is 01:38:56 He's shares the blame. You can't, you can't say it's not his fault. I just don't understand. That's not. That's not. That's not. You can say a childish point of view. All his fault.
Starting point is 01:39:06 John, would you concede to that? It's not all his fault. No, yeah, absolutely. I think there's fault to go around 100%. But him to act, but you to say this, like, he's some employee that's getting bullied by his bosses. Right. I just do whatever you tell me to do.
Starting point is 01:39:21 He's Kevin Feigy. Okay. He is powerful. He is strong. He's getting paid millions of dollars. So he has a voice in the room to say yes or no, to push back. I mean, he's the one that advocated to get Pearl Murder out of there so they could tell more diverse stories. And so he knows how to work the system and get what he wants.
Starting point is 01:39:42 Don't turn him into some low-level mid-management employee, for God's sake. He's Kevin Feigey. Right. Leva, Lever R. 127. I always wanted Jamie Alexander as one of a woman. I also like Grace Caroline Curry and Shazam, but personal choices would be Zier Gonzalez. She's a good choice, too. I know.
Starting point is 01:39:58 I just think age is a better actress. I like her. I just think she wants the role. Okay. Really bad. So I don't know if it's happening, but I know she wants the role. Okay. Maddie B. You know a guy named Maddie B. We had a guy who went to college with Maddie B. That's who's wedding we were at, or Bachelor Party right, rather, when I tell the start, I'm sure I've told this story many times over. Dagnino and I were at Caesar's Palace. And I don't know if you've been to one of the bathrooms, Caesar's Palace. You could eat pasta on the floor.
Starting point is 01:40:32 I can sleep there. It's gorgeous. So we're there and we were pretty tipsy. And it was just me and him in the bathroom. And I'm peeing at the stalls. And I just look over and I go, it stinks like shit in here. Right.
Starting point is 01:40:46 And nowhere, this guy from behind the stall goes, well, what the fuck you wanted to smell like roses? Crying, laughing. Crying laughing. and like, good point, just like tears. And people were like, we couldn't stop crying laughing. And people would walk out and go, what are you guys laughing? We couldn't even explain ourselves.
Starting point is 01:41:08 It was so stupid. Doug developer, the MCU now feels like the NBA once LeBron retires. Wait, did you? I think you skipped that one before we answered it, the last one, right? Or did I'm... Let me see, maybe you're right. One in yellow. I think you're telling the story.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Oh, yeah, you're telling the story. Sorry, Maddie B. Thank you. Thank you. Tell my Maddie B story, and I totally skipped over Maddie B pressure. To portray Reacher, Alan Rissen gained approximately 30 pounds of muscle increasing his weight from 205 to 235. So he's normally smaller when not filming Reacher. He could be smaller for Batman. He ain't got to lose that weight.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Are you kidding me? He's not going to lose. The rock has to stay that size. He's not going to lose that. That's his that's his stick now. It's funny because after I left Clyde alive, they had him on the show. Oh, yeah. Dude, I forgot it was him because they were talking about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Starting point is 01:41:56 And he's like a twig compared to what he is. it now, but he's not going to lose that weight. No way. Okay, so then back to this and Doug developer, the MCU now feels like the NBA once LeBron retires. When's that even going to happen? A couple more years, I think. So you think he's staying with the Lakers?
Starting point is 01:42:18 No, I think he's gone. I think they're absolutely going to trade him. He's trying to find the right situation that works for him and the team and the other team as well. But, yeah, a lot of people talk about Dallas Mavericks. to be something if you get LeBron, Kyrie, Anthony Davis, essentially his ghosts of Christmas
Starting point is 01:42:35 future and past together. It could be a fast. And where he's finally going to the garden? Or the Knicks. That could be. Garden. Yeah. Oscar for Life, new Predator trailer is awesome reaction.
Starting point is 01:42:48 I probably won't be reacting. I didn't love the first trailer, but I trust you guys on the second one. And I like Trashenberg. So I'm going to check out the movie for sure. But does the predator look better? He looked ridiculous in that first one. Well, you see more of him in this trailer. So you can make a really full decision
Starting point is 01:43:05 about how he looks. He looked. He looked like a human being with smaller predator. Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the look. Jay Mobile, is it a given that Soups is going to make another 100 worldwide, even with
Starting point is 01:43:21 Fantastic Four coming out of this week, and Jurassic still did it's definitely not a given. I think it's a given. You think it's a given that's going to make another person? If worldwide dummies can go see Jurassic World multiple damn times, then a lot of people who want to feel hope and joy and want to take a break from their lives will go and see Superman again because they have such a great positive experience going to see it.
Starting point is 01:43:44 The fact that it's made this much already in two weeks is pretty phenomenal. And the fact that it's a domestic-driven film that's done this is pretty strong. He's saying he's asking him it's going to make another 100 million world. Yeah, yeah, but I'm saying the domestic will make up for whatever it's, It's losing. Jack Lewis, 5308, do you believe that if the naked gun reboot does well, it could lead to a resurgence of comedy films or release in theaters? I think the last comedy I saw in theaters was a Hangover 3.
Starting point is 01:44:09 I think it will certainly have people attempt it, whether or not it has a resurgence. I don't know, but it will have, it will certainly lead an attempt, which is just as good for me. I would love to see an attempt of certain comedies because I think it's telling that Happy Gilmore 2 didn't even try to go into theaters. Yeah, right. It's coming out this week. Yeah. I don't know if it would lead to a resurgence, but it could open the door, as you said, Christian, to the attempts. But there aren't comedies in the pipeline right now. So there is been a call that's been heard by Hollywood. And so they're starting to put them back in motion. We'll see. People need comedies nowadays.
Starting point is 01:44:49 Doggito, 77. Do you think a Thanos return will pay off his comments of Stark and Infinity War? You're not the only one cursed with knowledge if he meets the Dr. Doomvaryant. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Also, he told you. He is inevitable. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:02 And so, yes. Levi R. 27. I'm not excited for Doomsday yet. I thought it was lazy for Marvel to bring back R.D.J. I just don't see him as Doom. They could have brought back Mads Mikelson and I would have been on board. I wouldn't have been on board for Mads Miklson to play Doom. I don't think that would have worked in my eyes because, yeah, that wouldn't have worked for me.
Starting point is 01:45:23 But I still wasn't super excited when they brought down. back because my my problem is even when they revealed him at comic on yeah he's wearing the sneakers he's got sunglasses on it looked like tony start playing dr dune like are we going to actually have dr dune he's a good enough actor it's possible yeah i mean i i remember reacting in real time being like wait i should be happier about this and i wasn't and so that tells me that i have trepidation around it and then you asked mads mickleson that doesn't move the needle one damn bit uh i know people love him and love him in the but mad's not some big star he's good at what he does he's good in the film but he ain't he ain't a splash rdj was the splash or even killion coming out of
Starting point is 01:46:08 oppenheimer would have been the splash yeah uh bojacks bobby i've never really felt like the avengers had a true leader it always seemed like co-leaders between tony i agree with that yeah yeah but but they both had more they both were like at one point they led like different factions of the Avengers too and then teamed up essentially at the end to lead the entire Avengers so yeah i agree but they were also the stars of it all you know um okay 72 so far john not that thank you j mobile j mobile lifelong marvel reader fan and i'm ready for the marvel for the multiverse saga to end and for the mc u to restart with mutants it was awesome for a bit but it's time i'm on board i could have wrote that myself but nothing guarantees they're going to get it right on with the
Starting point is 01:46:56 mute stuff. No, we'll see. We'll see. I mean, Faggy has had a shot, Faggy has been involved with the X-Men in the past, and, you know, he was involved in the first two X-Men. I don't know how much of what power,
Starting point is 01:47:07 but still. Bobby, my unconventional pick to leave would be Star-Lord. He has the experience and has really matured over the years. Also, was his plan that almost worked against Thanos. He just didn't stick to it. Yeah, but I think the problem is that he's pretty much kind of like, we're tired now. And I thought that he's a good end to his arc,
Starting point is 01:47:24 which is going back and being with his uncle. I think Pratt's going to move into the DCU. I think he's going to follow James. And so I don't, I think he's done after Secret Wars. That's just what I sense. That's a trade quarter. Michael B. Jordan about the Cups of Steinfeld and Narzona and back-to-back movies. Man's winning, lucky bastard.
Starting point is 01:47:43 Hey, listen, especially when he's directing. He knows who to cast. Bro, you work out that hard, look that good. You can make choices. Yeah, that's right. Evil John Madden. John, last week, you wanted to know who I watch on YouTube. Christian, all of real rejects.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Pallas and geek buddies. There are Asians, black, women's Latinos, and a gay guy. It's pretty diverse. Hey, you tell you who he watches. Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you. So why are you still evil, though? I'm confused.
Starting point is 01:48:07 Haskell. Sub-Haskel. So up guys. If they did a basic incident, Margo Robbie was cast and Sharon Stone, everybody would just fall over if that happened. Does it hit $2 billion? No. And I don't know, I think it's going to be streaming.
Starting point is 01:48:20 But if there's no world where Margo Robbie's going to take that role, especially if Esther House is doing it. I'll tell you that. Sydney's Queenie. Maybe it hits $2 billion. Not Margo. I don't think Margo has that. No, I'm joking, of course.
Starting point is 01:48:33 But I don't think Margo has that. I don't think she has that. The same thing. You see Wolf of Wall Street? Yeah, that was 10 years ago. People lose in the situation. Sydney is right now, the flavor now, like she was when Wolfel Wall Street came out. It's a different thing.
Starting point is 01:48:48 I think it's a different thing. I don't know, man. She pulled a billion-dollar movie not too long ago. Brandon Joe that's a Barbie brand that's also I'm just pretty big star man Richardson would be a better Aquaman more comic like I agree and if you already played Aquaman though and so that arrogant dry asshole really well plus needs to be imposing next to bats and soups I'd like to see him play Aquaman too and maybe just get another shot at it why not I'd be surprised if they did it because
Starting point is 01:49:16 you already did it in a small bill so yeah yeah Ed I watched part one of the new two part Billy Joel HBO doc and so it goes it's fantastic part two this Friday each part is two and a half hours and ultimate two i have to probably check it out i mean it's billy joe he's a long island uh staple definitely i love billy joel yeah levi art 127 do you think marvel wanted chadwick to be the face of the mccu after captain american iron man but with his passing he didn't have a plan yes yeah 100 percent and mostly because and this is no uh you know no insult to chadwick chadwick kept his illness a secret uh i think if and that's been known i think even even ryan apparently didn't know about it.
Starting point is 01:49:55 So I think if he had told Marvel ahead of time, they could have made alternate plans a little bit earlier. Again, not Chadwick's fault. He's got a right to keep his business private. But, like, I think they would have planned out better. So, yes, they've been on their heel since trying to make it work. Screw face, John. The waiter was clearly mad that you gave their favorite movie at Bad Review.
Starting point is 01:50:15 Maybe so. Maybe so. Maybe that's, maybe the in there. And they're like, oh, this guy again. Bobby, I know it won't happen, but I want to see Richardson as Aquaman again. There you go. Just on the big screen instead of on the CW. I mean, maybe, look, if you can put, and granted, different roles,
Starting point is 01:50:34 but if you can just take a not too long ago Aquaman and Jason Momoa and then give him Lobo, why couldn't you take an Aquaman from a TV show that people haven't seen in a very long time and put him in as Aquaman as a different kind of version in your DCU? Why not? I mean, you could, of course, because people are just going to be like, well, that was TV. They're not going to care that much. So, yeah, that's fair. Evil John Madden.
Starting point is 01:50:59 Chris is still waiting for you to make an appearance on Geek Buddies. I've been on Geek Buddies, like three times. Actually, still waiting to see any special guests, but I guess they'll never happen. That's not sure. I've been on like three times. Yeah, he's been on three times. Where have you been evil, John Madden? I know.
Starting point is 01:51:11 El Doritos, 97. Him a member. Thank you, man. Good time to do it. We got our live stream coming up real soon, too. Tyler Pfeiffer. He threw Vivas out at third base flat footer from the, if we're never. touch the ground i got to watch the play i got to check it out um mitchell hey miller one faggy saying the
Starting point is 01:51:29 plan was to shift from kang to dr doom even before the legal stuff and that thunderbolts failed because they're mostly from tv is insane losing trust part of that i agree with part of it i know i think that part of the reason that i think the tv portion of thunderbolts i think part of that is true i think the people like it's true yeah because i've heard people go i didn't watch any the shows i don't know who that is i don't know why i don't know why i I don't even know who these people are. What am I watching? If you don't watch a couple different things,
Starting point is 01:51:58 you don't know what the hell's going on with the Captain America or Winter Soldier and Falcon, if you don't watch that, you don't know who John Walker is. And he was the one out there saying, you don't need to have watched the shows. You don't need to have watched the shows to enjoy Thunderbolts. And then now he's doing the interview saying, well, he still says that.
Starting point is 01:52:14 He still says inside of that. He goes, you know, people are saying that. I don't feel like that's the truth. Of course, it's the truth. You don't get the same feeling from John Walker that you would if you watch those scenes. But the first part of what he's saying, John and I both agree with here, that it makes no sense for him to say that they were going to move away from Kang. And it really bothers me that he said that actor. Like, Jonathan Majors, like, yes, he got into a toxic relationship with a girlfriend and it was, you know, from the video, it's not a strong, thick situation.
Starting point is 01:52:46 But is Kevin Beige, is Kevin Beige a saint? is he never done anything wrong with anybody ever? So for him to be like, that actor, it's so dismissive and disrespectful. He is horrible for him to say that. He should have said John the Major, said his name, be done with it. I don't know why he said that.
Starting point is 01:53:02 I think, look, and I also say this, I think Kevin Feige is a creative genius. I really do. I think he's one of the best producers of all time. I haven't liked him as a person. I think he's really good. I think he bent the knee to social media many times. time's over. I think it's I think he has bent the knee so many times to politics and other things.
Starting point is 01:53:26 And I think that he is bent the knee to where like that actor. I don't I don't want to mention his name. He spent the knee many time in social issues and things too. And I think that that's what he did there by not mentioning his name. You can say things happen with Jonathan majors. It didn't work out. We had to move on and we moved on. You say his name though. That was silly. Yep. HP, view on Rob's Factor, spoiler on Campia's show on Timeline. Did he spoil something on it?
Starting point is 01:53:56 I don't know. I don't, yeah, I don't watch. Rob's been known to do that from time to time. He gets excited. He does, he gets excited. Unknown by 6M.R. I mean, not all his fault, however, the added layers of management by Chepec and the mandate,
Starting point is 01:54:09 I argue, were the major factors than the decline of the MC. No. I do think it's part of that. I think he's wrong. The mandate wouldn't have mattered if they had made quality work. That's the difference. He made decisions to go in certain directions. He chose the creatives. And so he has to, look, if I choose the players on the team, I take responsibility for how they produce on the field. And that's really how it works. And so I hear what you're saying
Starting point is 01:54:35 that the pressure was on, but like, welcome to real life and a job. And pressure is always on to perform, to deal with people leaving your job or unexpectedly passing away, figuring things out, changing on the fly, troubleshooting. Welcome to real jobs. Like that happens all the time in smaller ways and bigger ways all over the spectrum. So I just think people want to worship him so much that they don't want to give him any blame. And it's nonsense. Bobby, John, have you ever thought about doing reactions to popular TV shows or movies you missed over the years?
Starting point is 01:55:09 I have, yeah. And I'm talking to somebody now who's been, is open to doing it with me and he's he has done too many of them but he's open to learning with me so yeah i'm i'm definitely going to do that um you know those are some of the changes that are coming really soon when we move over to be the fully the john roca channel but yes thanks joe bojacks appreciate it evil john madden the mcccule now feels like the wmba spending all their money and doesn't make any of it back and that is why the wmba haven't earned bigger salaries can i address this yes go ahead this is the i have to say this and evil i know we've been going back and forth so people don't understand or don't
Starting point is 01:55:42 of the WMBA. Yes, they've lost Monday the last since they've been around. Yes, 100%. MBA has funded them and what have you. However, they're about to sign a massive TV rights deal that is $200 million, $250 million. Now, is that because of Caitlin Clark? Yes, an element of King of Clark, but also all the ladies that came before Caitlin, who've been building the product. Women's sports is exploding. And all the dudes being sexist about it, you just sound like morons. Like women's soccer, women's bad. It's all exploding, you know. over the weekend I saw on NBC on a prime time channel. I'm watching women's rugby with Alonamara.
Starting point is 01:56:19 Like women's sports exploding. WNBA, you can make those jokes because you don't know. They're about to do a massive rights deal, which is why these ladies are asking for a bigger piece of the pie because there's going to be a bigger piece of the pie for them to make money off of. So you make your jokes, but it just means you don't know shit about the WNBA
Starting point is 01:56:38 what's really going on behind the scenes. I definitely don't know shit about it. Drifty 1290. I'm with you, Christian. I'm done with watching more than one trailer. Seems like they showed all
Starting point is 01:56:47 a fantastic four. They showed a lot. They showed a lot. Carlton Rudder, cinefowles breakdown of Superman 1978 is epic. Thanks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:55 Thank you. Listen, Michael Vogel joined us for that one. So please listen to me. I'd like to check that out. Mr. Jay Anderson, Leadership 101.
Starting point is 01:57:04 It's always the leader's fault. Yep, that's true. That is true. All right. 76. Not bad. It's a big one.
Starting point is 01:57:10 Look at this one. What do you guys think about Marvel? This is from Jack Lewis. What do you guys think about Marvel shooting Doomsday without a written third act? Seems like a bad idea, given how important in the movie will be for getting people back on the wagon
Starting point is 01:57:22 for all the future stuff they want to do. It depends. If they know where they're going with it and they have an overall idea of what the final scene is, I'm okay with it. If it's like, we don't even know what the third act is at all.
Starting point is 01:57:34 We don't even know what's going to happen. That's a problem. But if they have it outlined, like, no, you know what? We know exactly we need to get there. We just need to punch in the dialogue, this, have that, I'm okay with that. I mean, Faggy said in that interview,
Starting point is 01:57:45 he's like, we've never started a movie without a finished script. I was like, yeah, technically we had a first draft. So I guess you could say that. But yeah, this is unsettling that they're not done with a third out. But yeah, we'll see. They've done it before and had success. Paul Hitchcock, who's more likely for best supporting actress? A-O. at a barrier of Julia Roberts Spanks.
Starting point is 01:58:07 Wow. And real question. Is it time for Figi to plan his egg, exit from Marvel. No, not yet. He's going to do X-Men. Yeah, he's got to land the plane with X-Men and set them in a good course and then he'll move on. He's going to at one point his career, and I don't know if it is two years from now or 10 years from now, he will land at Star Wars. Yeah, 100% Christian, 100%. Yeah, he's more of a Star Wars fan than he's a Marvel fan. Faloni is going to eat the dirt and Faggy's going to come in and save the brain.
Starting point is 01:58:38 A hundred percent. A prediction about Lucasfilm, John. What's that? I think they're going to go. I think you want to take this down? So if they want to use it as a short moment. Go ahead. Thank you, Julie. I should have you produced the show. I think Lucasfilm might be getting their act together.
Starting point is 01:58:57 Oh, that's a new tune from you. It is. I'm just going to say this. I think they're getting there. I think they might actually. They have, I think that there's optimism that could be shared by me. I think that there is a word. world where they might actually have a structure, which they haven't had in forever.
Starting point is 01:59:16 Wow. I might think, I, I am thinking that it is a possibility that in the next two or three years, you can start to see a little bit of things taking shape. I think we're going to get there in about three years, but I think it's possible. That's all I'm going to say. Okay. I love this. Mr. Jay Anderson, I still wish Vigo Mortensen was cast as Doom.
Starting point is 01:59:36 That would have been interesting. Vigo would have been a splash, much more than MADS. Yeah. Mike Joyce, look on. John's face when Heel John Madden appears. It's such a great like ongoing feud. Ryan Plyb, how much would a Peter and Miles live action Spider-Man team make in box office? That could finally happen after the Spider-Bush movies are. Well, that was one of the things we didn't address that Kevin McGe mentioned. He said, we can't do, they won't let us use Miles until that's
Starting point is 01:59:59 over. So probably it'll happen, but probably not for a bit. But listen, the Spider-Bers movies will be over, I think, before Secret Wars comes out. So it doesn't mean that they couldn't have Miles pop in the Secret Wars and work something out. So it's kind of keep that way in the bag of your mind as possible. Two more for now. Okay. And let's see. The first one is free pancakes.
Starting point is 02:00:20 Happy Monday, fellas. Stay handsome. Thank you, free pancakes. Thank you. And this is the last one for now until unless someone else wants to throw something in there. Act up 805. Someone please Photoshop John and James Gunn cheating at the concert. Please.
Starting point is 02:00:36 Please. That whole thing has been just unbelievable. That guy like blaming Coldplay and they're suing Coldplay. Yeah, yeah, there was. And I will tell you this, whether you're a fan of Coldplay and Chris Martin or not, the way that he has handled it since has been brilliant. He's like, I saw a video of him where he's like, well, so let everyone know what we're going to do now is our cameras are going to go across
Starting point is 02:01:05 and focus on some of you so we don't want to be filmed. This whole thing. It was great. It was great. This guy is a billionaire. This guy. Not anymore. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:01:18 I was to say, I hope his wife, who he has put through hell for this now. A good billionaire. They might have had an arrangement. Like, you know, that happens with rich people all the time.
Starting point is 02:01:27 That wives or husbands are like, yeah, I'm okay as long as we share the money, blah, blah, blah. But when you embarrass the person, that's a whole other ball publicly. That's a whole, so she's going to,
Starting point is 02:01:39 I hope she takes in for, every ball's in that guy blaming it on the they shared a private moment garbage you turd you're in a public place yeah it's a concert you moron you remember a concert or a sports game over yeah and also I want to say this
Starting point is 02:01:54 you be HR I'm not surprised I've dealt with HR before in certain places and sometimes HR cozy's up to management really hard sometimes so I was not surprised to see that she was the HR person like it happens Jack Lewis Lucas I'm not really
Starting point is 02:02:10 seeing a Star Wars woman over five years is not a good look hope Feigey takes over the for the brand sake i don't think he's going to do it anytime soon but i like i said i think that the one thing to be optimistic about is maybe they'll actually start planning stuff and putting things into actual form maybe maybe that will happen that's all i can say um unknown by six mr hey roca marines over army wow yeah i think we're all i think all branches of the military service are effective and important. So there you go. To rank them. Yeah, there you go. Okay. Yeah. So let's see, John, right now, you've got 82.
Starting point is 02:02:49 Okay. 82. Good start to the week, my friend. Tell them where they can find you. Thank you guys so much. Please come find me at the Roka says, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, outlaw nation on Twitch. My YouTube channel, YouTube.com slash John Roka says. The John Roka channel soon to be there in the next few days. Thank you so much for hanging out and doing so. Please subscribe. We really appreciate it. And Christian, thanks for having man, a lot of fun here on the Monday again. Take care, everybody. See you, John, here next week. Guys, thank you for being here, as always. Apple Podcast, Spotify, I'll have more news for you on the Kickstarter where it is moving.
Starting point is 02:03:23 And I'm getting really great reviews from people that are reading that I have a lot of respect for. I'm sending it to some of my friends because you never know when you're so close to something. And I give props to Roxy too. She's like, you're going to send it out to his people. So I send it to people I work with in development, people that I've, I've met over the years that are in the business, and I wanted to get their thoughts because I wanted to get good notes, and I've been getting really good feedback.
Starting point is 02:03:45 So hopefully you guys are going to like what we're going to put out there for you. The goal is to try to shoot it within the next year and then see what we can do with it. So thanks again, Apple Podcast, Spotify, anywhere podcast, found. Make sure, right after this, I'm going to make my Loki season two finale. I'm going to make that live. Then I'm going to do the out-of-the-the-the-the-the-the-the-tear reaction tonight. So that's it. See you guys soon.
Starting point is 02:04:07 Check out, whatever I'm going to say. And I don't want to say. I was just talking at this point. Bye. Okay. That made a lot of sense.

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