The Kristian Harloff Show - Kevin Feige was almost fired from Marvel in 2015?! WTF?

Episode Date: February 10, 2023

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What's going on, everybody? Welcome back. It's the big thing. It's Capes and Cal's. It's the Friday episode. And man, we got a lot to talk about. Quantumania. It is right around the corner.

I have seen the film. I'm still under embargo. Can't talk about the full review yet. I gave my first reaction to it. I can go over that briefly. But there's stuff inside of that that we're going to potentially talk about on today's show. Kevin Feigy almost gave a big spoiler when it came to Kang. So what the hell was that?

What could it have been? We'll speculate on that. and come up with absolutely nothing. Speaking of Kevin Feige, did you know that he was almost fired in 2015? But Bob Eiger stepped in. What's that story all about? My guess, Pearl Mudder, somewhere or another. That's my guess.

There's other things, man. They got some Deadpool stuff, maybe. Daredevil Born again, there's some updates there. Captain America, New World Order, details. Fantastic Four. Maybe Milak Kunis has a role. That and more, plus our Boom Studio segment here today. So we'll be talking about that with both Winston and Corp.

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I've had enough of myself. Let's get into it. It is capes and cows. I'm ready? You ready? Cuell. Thank you once again to that brilliant opening by Wicked Art. made that.

It's Cates and Cows, everybody. Big thing. Me. Coy John dro, your head's really right in the frame today. Look at that. I don't like that. Looks good though. Not good, thanks.

Connor McGregorish. I'm focused. And Winston A. He's back, man. Mike Chandler. I'm proud of you, man. Thanks. Really mastered that stream deck.

I wouldn't go that far. I'm getting better. You are, you are seamless now. You maybe haven't mastered it, but you're pretty seamless. It's like, it's almost like you're playing piano, but not realizing. Like muscle memory? Yeah, but I've also limited myself of how much I put on there now, too. you don't over-rubmit yourself.

I'd rather delete things than that. I'm sure there's other ways. You know, you just teach yourself certain tricks that you're like, it's easy for you. You can do it that way. I'm like, yeah, I know, but it's like my dad. I got my three channels. I know where they are.

I might not need my glasses to hit them because I know exactly where they are. Boom, bum, bum. That's been me with, you want to talk about kids, if you're learning something, learn it. Back in grade school when we had to take typing class, I learned the entirety of the keyboard, accept the numbers on the top. and I have to look.

Oh, right, right, yeah. But I've, I've been slowly because of the job I've been doing, I've been, like, beginning to learn where those numbers are. Yeah, sometimes I can do it to where it's like, and then other than, oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, regular typing I can't, but numbers, I have to look, and I've been working on it, so. Who got in my Gregor, Chandler?

Oh, me, I'm going to be honest with you. Like, it's, and I've talked about this kind of often, where it went it, from, like, 2005, until 2000, I'd say, 11, 12, MMA and UFC was like how I made my living. Yeah, yeah. I was shocked when I realized how much you knew. And everything, too. I was, I was really, that was my, that was my sport.

Yeah. I knew it. That area, you know Star Wars level. It's crazy. I knew it more than most people. Yeah. I really did. And, you know, like I said, I was checking the sites every day, knew all this stuff.

And then I eventually, after kids, and I'm throwing that 2012 because I have, same way with Yankees and Giants, I follow them when I can, but I'm not as, it's harder. I feel like, just like my dad, where when he got a little older, like, that's all, you know, he knows everything again now. Because that's the same thing for me when I have a little bit more time. But like to answer your question, I'm not as locked in to say because I don't, I don't know enough about it. Like there's certain, like, I want to get back into all of it. But I remember how I, I mean, I was on the sites. The way that I'm on sites now for this stuff is what I was on for MMA. And I was like, I knew it all. And like I said, like that's how I, I, I have been studying that George. St. Pierre, Matt Sarah thing, when I was going down, I said, Sarah's going to win that fight. Yeah. I said Sarah's going on the fight. And I told Matt when I met him, I was like, I won a lot of money.

And I still want my own dinner. It's like, the two of them are so different as fighters, but they're both like, they need this to such a level and they're both going to fight till their burger. Isn't Connor done though? I mean, like, mentally, mentally. My thing with Connor is like, I feel like he got really sad after he lost to, like, in a wrestling match to a beep. But then when he came back and had that big victory against Cowboy that was like a pride.

and I hadn't seen since 2016. So now I'm wondering if he's going to be coming back as the, I had to like take my licks. I'm back in it. Or if he's coming back as like, I've got a billion dollars. Because there's two fighters. There's comfortable Connor and there's,

I have my pride counter. And they're trying to build this Patty guy up right to like the new Connor. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, Patty's interesting because he can like lose 30 pounds in a fucking day. That was rough. What's Patty's last name? McGatty. Seriously?

For it just a thing and I was like, I don't know off the top of my head. Because I'm not going to lie. My brain immediately when I heard Patty, I was like, O'Malley. So when you said it, I was like, yeah, kind of believe me. Oh, but I can't find out. But, like, Chandler hasn't wanted to bid.

Patty boy, it's me. Daddy's having trouble. Call an ambulance. Patty boy is me. Patty boy. On the ones and twos. On the ones and twos. Patty.

Patty. Patty. Patty. Matt, come on the show. Make your beat. And that's the, he's singing the Patty Boy song. Harry Mac, get on here. We got you.

I still cannot believe that Roxy didn't understand. Which one? Do you not remember that we had an argument about the entire of time? Oh, yeah, of course. I don't remember that. She's saying, I'm Patty Boy. No. This is the most S.E.

and big thing that this show has ever been. 22 minutes in, time to start. Is it six minutes? Six minutes. I was referencing. I was referencing. We talked about Roxy's dating life for 19 minutes yesterday before we got into the first topic. How's that going?

Well, actually. Those episodes, I think that now we realize that the Thursday episode is where the majority of nonsense. I meant her dating life and you went to the coverage of it immediately. I meant like, I was Rox's dating. No, no, our coverage of Roxy's dating. For very important coverage. From what I know, from what I've seen, it sounds like it's good but exhausting. Oh, you got to see yesterday's.

I'm just happy. Is she happy? Yeah, but yesterday's episode is a new turn in the saga. Oh, man. Every week, every week on the show now, we cover it to see where. it's going and it's like a television show it's like a reality show I saw your uh your your your your one where it's like well and then he he's like I wrote a joke I'm gonna tell that joke I'd five or something about it

I wrote a joke about it sad I won't be there because I'll be it I'll be at the screening I was just a good transition so Antman so there you go so Antman I gave my and as I said because Coy shut himself off rightfully so from social media because he doesn't want to get spoiled on anything I've heard there's a lot of spoilers out there I don't I'm not looking even though I've been texted to avoid spoilers All I'm going to say is this because I talked about this on Big Thing yesterday, and I have my reaction out there, and it's embargoed on Tuesday. So just to let you guys know to give you kind of a talking point off of,

and what I've told you off here, is that the movie is a very big science fiction film. Peyton Reed was not lying when he said this was going to be the epic scale. Out of the three of them, definitely the biggest. Jonathan Majors, we thought he was going to be awesome. He is, right? So we know that for sure. As far as the overall tone of it, there's less jokes in it, which I like. They didn't throw everybody has a joke.

There's still a lot of humor in it, for sure. And what I will say is that it gets to a place where there's a time where it's really moving and then it gets really loud and crazy and a bit chaotic. And I would dare to say messy at points. But then it all kind of comes back in and kind of ties nicely. So that's the overall reaction and say with it with you guys as you may. I think my main concern is I felt like they ended phase four in a very pointed way with like wanting to have that poignant ending with Wakanda forever and like they kind of put a button on the sadness, the, you know, remorse the phase four is about loss. So I'm really intrigued by what phase five kickoff is as far as thematically. So I'm really curious if it is this like, obviously I don't want to know anything. I left social media. But I'm very curious about what thematically this kind of. says at the offset versus, you know, what we kind of knew from the beginning, loss was phase four.

So I'm really curious what phase five has to say is like, man, begins this. Winston, did you watch any, or not watch? Did you check out social media and look at the first reactions as they came out? Yes, I saw a few. What stood out? What stood out, honestly, was that a majority of people were being like, wow, this is, this is like an epic kickoff to phase five. But then the other thing that stood out was friend of the show, Greg Alba, being like, yeah, it's not for me.

He didn't like it. I've only seen Greg's first reaction that 13 seconds was the only thing I allowed myself to watch. Because I respect that Greg won't spoil even accidentally. I didn't see his reaction. Thanks, boy. I know he didn't talk to you. I did talk to you. Did I not come in and ask you?

You said the only one. Only Greg. That's it. The only person. I wouldn't be here. Get your head out of Winston's shot, will you? See, Jesus. Just got a colonize it.

That's right. But all I saw from Greg, I didn't see his video reaction. I just saw his tweets and he's like, look, I know I'm already getting crap. But like, if you, he's like, if it gets 90% on rotten tomatoes and everybody loves it, he's like, I'm happy about that. It's just not for me. And I think that's fair. And I think that's what's going to, I think there's going to be quite a few people. Like I said, it's, and my daughter had said at one point in a two.

And she, but she loved it. But she looked up, she was, this is a Star Wars movie? or is this a Marvel movie? Like, I think people are going to, not everybody's going to be on board with it. I mean, it's a science fiction film. I mean, it's straight up science fiction. What I appreciate about that is that was one of the things

that we started to fall in love with the MC when we realized they were taking those shots at making genre films within. So like what, one of the reasons why everybody loved Werewolf by Night was because they really read for it. Same thing with the original Ant Man being a heist movie. Yeah, and Guardians to its credit was also, it's kind of a science fiction space opera and it's on the way for sure but i i don't know this one to me

seem the most science fiction at anything i was to like space opera and science fiction are in obviously the science fiction genre but they're a different flavor right so like i feel like we have seen space opera but i don't think we've seen in the star trek star wars sci-fi flavor all of that in here i'm very excited and again and i mentioned strange world also strange world as much is like the feel and look of the quantum realm itself felt like strange world the story that would have been cool if we had found out

at the end of like Strange World of the beginning of this that that was actually like a prequel to Quantum Media it was actually sold a lot of tickets just the quantum realm

They sold more tickets they would have sold a crap ton of tickets I mean they should have done that with Sony with that life movie like they set it up to where it could have been a Venom prequel where like the black oh right and everyone was like thinking it was

and I was like do one reshoot guys like it's Sony do one reshoot have a Jake Jelenhall Ryan Reynolds prequel like that would be sell Gangbusters. I forgot about that movie. Because you remember when that happened was split?

Yeah. It was a pretty good movie. And then at the very end, Bruce, what the, oh my gosh. And so Life throws in one scene, makes it the end when it comes out, and now it's a billion-dollar movie. And I liked Life, and I like Venom. I'm one of the people that likes both, but like, it could have been more. Well, look, so the movie comes out. It's coming out really soon.

We will have, yeah. So I will have my non-spoiler review up on Tuesday morning. Same. For Quantumania. and then we'll have Friday. We'll do like on this show, we'll do a preview for it because we'll all have seen it, but we'll do a preview for it.

And then the Monday following the release, the three of us will be back for that Monday episode to do a full on spoiler review. And I'll have a spoiler review, like a smaller one on probably that Saturday. You're going to say same on that one too? No. I typically wait.

I wait until the weekend's over. Okay. So the next. Thank you for holding for me, though. I appreciate that. Oh, you're so welcome. You can expect a non-spoter from you, Winston and Christian on Tuesday.

And spoiler for me, Winston Christian, together and separately on Monday. Perfect. Good plugs, guys. That's why I like that. I edit this show now. None of the show.

Hey, man, if I win, you win. If you win, I win. It rising tide lifts all boats. 1,000, said no one. All right, so we are now. The Christian Harloff channel are allowed to put our reviews. He just, like, puts our videos on there.

That's colonizing. That's how we get them over there. bring him in. Absolutely. See, now you know. That's our word. You can't use that word.

I was using it in a way that helps. This is, this is that subplot. This is that subplot that people want. Let me get your shovel. Let me just go ahead and six feet under. Just here it is. This is how it goes.

See, I welcome your hand in my shop, but I'm a lot of loud. No. This is the fear I have on the internet. You're getting the theme of how this works. True. That's true.

Hey, let me ask you a question. What month is it? You damn right. You damn right. And on top of that, it was one hand in your shot. These are like, hey man, yeah, baby, yeah, I'm gone.

That should be the thumbnail. That should be the thumbnail. Yeah, baby, I'm cool. I like that I've got like a little alien in my B voice. It's like, oh, God, I wish I had the, quado. Oh, ho. Oh, ho. Wado.

No, no, no, you're doing Wado. Oh, yeah, we're doing Wado. I thought I was saying. I was scrapped parts. You were doing Java with Wado. Java's ho, ho, ho, Wado, Wado. Wado from Republic Credients?

No, I'm doing Wado from Total Recall. Oh, you win 80s sci-fi. Yeah. I was picturing the little guy driving the guy in Men and Black. I went 90s sci-fi. Morons. You know? Also, I maintain Vincent Dinoffrey

should come back in Secret Wars as like sugar and water. Well, Corey, I'm not giving an opportunity if you want to segue into this, too. Okay, what about? There is a potential Vincent Dinoffrio. update, but you don't have to. Actually, I got to lead into the one that I'm most curious about because I haven't heard this story. So I'm excited for you to break something for me

that I haven't heard anything about. Kevin Feigey, the reason that the largest empire in filmmaking modern history is the structure that it is almost got fired whilst it was at its peak. That's the report. Marvel Studios Kevin Feigy was almost fired back in 2015 before Bob Iger stepped in. I'm reading this from comic book movie.

We knew that Kevin Feige in form. Marvel CEO, Ike Perlmutter, what I say? Yep, there it is. We're exactly in the best of terms, but Disney's Bob Iger has now revealed that Faggy almost lost his job, thanks to Perlmutter's meddling. Oh, this is full-on politics, and I love it. In the Game of Thrones.

Yeah, because I'm on the side of Iger and Faggy, so of course I love it. But the bad blood between current Marvel Studios boss, Kevin Figey, and former Marvel Entertainment CEO, Ike Perlmutter is well documented. But now it has come to light that the latter attempted to take drastic measures to remove his rival from a prominent position of power, showing more so why Ike Promoter is a moron.

It doesn't say that, but that's what everybody's thinking. The Marvel Cinematic Universe is arguably one of, if not, the most lucrative and well-known most franchises of all time. As a large part of that success, it's down to Figi. However, the MCU would have been a very different beast altogether if Promutter had his way because Promutter is a moron. Again, not said, but true. The two execs clash consistently, constantly, and newly reinstated

CEO Iger has revealed that Promotter was preparing to fire Feing until he stepped in. Apparently, Iger's meddling made Perlmutter unhappy and an unhappiness that exists today. This is Game of Thrones and I love it. I knew I knew I had to intervene. So in May of 2015, I made the decision to split Marvel's movie making unit

off from the rest of the Marvel and bring it under Alan Horn and Walt Disney Studios. Remember when all this? That's when all the soundtrack and all the score started coming back and all that. Kevin would now report directly to Alan and would benefit from his experience. experience and the tensions that had built up between him and the New York office would be elevated. Elevated.

Wow. I can't read. And I have my glasses on. We're not, we are not exactly sure where the tension arose from Faggy trying to assert more control over the comic side of things. Or Pumutter attempting to stick his, or in the MCU. I think that's exactly what it was. But we're sure most fans will be pleased that it worked in Fige's favor. I mean, dude, ruined Iron.

Like, I like Iron Man 3 a lot, but it could have been top 10 Marvel. Like I consider Iron Man 3 like 13. Like, it's high, but, like, I, Pearl Mudder, like, ruined the villain, ruined the ending, wanted to sell toys. And that's the one we know the most about. I guarantee this was... The music, dude. Pro Metal was interfered with Iron Man 3? Yeah, that's the reason there's a random fire-breathing Killian and not Rachel.

The original villain was supposed to be her. Like, she was the villain of the movie that they set up throughout the film. I forget the character's name because they underwrote her at the end. Oh, you're talking about the one that he was like, yeah. Yeah. Scientists. The scientist was the villain. And that's why it feels so weird that suddenly Guy Pearce is the villain because, like,

Pearl Motor was like, we need him to breathe fire and sell toys. So she was the villain in the movie, and that was tying into his PTSD and his trauma about women and his inability to connect. And it's actually about the pathos of Tony, but instead he was like, let's make it an action set piece. The reason Iron Man 3 doesn't work is like Pearl Mudder. The thing that drove me nuts about Pramutter was the thing that I always heard was that when he wouldn't pay the composers. So because the deal was this.

The deal was basically he would hire you on to do the first movie. you would create an epic theme and then the second movie you would want more money to do the second one or they'd have to pay you for your themes if they didn't and he's like now the composers aren't as important so they just if you look at like what was it I think it was Captain America Civil War

the Captain America theme by Alan Sylvestery is only in it like a hint in the Avengers I think it's Ultron it's only the main theme is only in there for a hint And that was like, I remember going, what are they doing? That's when it was so messy. Ultron was a convoluted mess of five different storylines. If you look at Ultron, they retroactively fix that movie because, like, the movies that followed, they were like, oh, that thing we set up.

But if you watch that movie by itself, it's like Thor takes that weird, like, acid bath where he's like tripping balls, talking to scares that never landed anywhere. No. And there's so many things like that in that movie. Well, that's why I think inside of this report, that it sounds like. That it sounds like Perlmutter wanted to be more involved in the movies and get the credit for everything. And then tried to make that political. move to get rid of Figi.

And it shows how stupid the guy is because it's like that's, that's just a political power move as opposed to going, well, this guy clearly, it's what we always talk about with the executive who makes the business decisions, who doesn't really give a crap about the creative, hence selling the toys and doing that, as opposed to the guy who's got the business sense, who gets the creative and makes it all work. And you don't, and it's your ego then saying, I don't want this guy to get the credit. And then this is also a very big political play. by the way, because there's stuff going on with these shareholders right now.

And the board, there's a big battle between, like, Iger, and I forget the other dude's name. There's, like, a whole court where it's, like, Iger and his crew, and then whoever this other guy is who's trying to take control, I forget his name, with then, you know, Pearl Mudder and all them on his side. So this is a political play by Iger, again, very smart, knowing that people are going to pick this up and knowing because he, everybody knows how beloved Kevin Fagie is.

Yeah. So if Iger says, I'm the guy that kept him around. You're the captain. But said it in this way that, hey, this putts was going to fire him. Yeah. And then yet another reason for the audience to go, okay, well, we love, I mean, we know. I should put the coat out the way to fame, man. I mean, there's two things to take away from that.

One, that sounds like an incredible limited series that I hope they do at some point. Yes. I would watch the hell out of that HBO. And because you could literally just, it could be about the MCU. And this seems like a major set piece to it of like we kind of got it started. And this dude decides to just get out. The war within the war. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. What, what the, what, the real Infinity War or something? Yeah, whatever. Yeah. Civil War during Civil War. Kevin Feigey Civil War. Because that was the time frame, too. That's like right there.

Captain Feigey Civil War. But I mean, I think the other thing about it that's so interesting is that reminds me so much as a tortured Cowboys fan about how I feel about Jerry Jones, where it's like, instead of letting the people that know what they're doing, just do it, you have to have the credit. Kathleen Kennedy, too. Literally. Just, just, what people at that level don't get, and I get there's a weird ego thing that's going on there, you have already won.

And you know how you win more if you're the guy that hired the guy to get it. 100%. Like if you would have worked in, you know, in synergy with, if I could have been bigger. Way bigger. And they would have been able to work together in a partnership, but there's just personalities that won't allow you to do that. Clearly, inside of the perimuthers, I can't, I just don't have the other guy's name. it is Game of Thrones. It really is because they're trying...

You're trying to name a Game of Thrones character? No, no, no, no. The guy that actually is opposing Eiger. And so... Not Chapic, right? No, no, no, no, no, Chappich is out. He's gone. Yeah, who's the...

It's this whole thing. It was a big article that came out where he's trying to take over, you know, certain parts of the board and everything, and it's, and it's, Iger versus this guy. And so this is, make no mistake about it, that this play by Eiger is as much of a political move as anything else to say inside of that shareholders thing, that this is what happened.

The guy that made, you know, this is 2015, you want to get rid of him. Had you gotten rid of Kevin Feigy, would you have the success of Infinity War and Civil War and Endgame? We just had our Ant Man premiere and we're about to have the biggest opening so far. Like the timing even of the quote. Of course. Like that's smart. He's brilliant. I told the story yesterday, a big thing about I'll tell you guys as well.

Like we were walking through for the premiere and I don't care anymore about seeing celebrities, whatever. But my daughter, you know, is looking and she sees Ant Man. And she's like, oh my God, oh, my God. And I look over, I go, it's Iiger. Right. And I turn to my daughter. I go, that guy, that guy's responsible. She's like, great, dad, there's Evangeline Lilly.

She didn't get to crap about Iger. But I'm just like, the power. But it's not even about the power. It's about, it's about a respect and understanding of what we're talking about here. It's, it's the idea, but you can be an executive. You got to make tough calls, right? Like, for example, he has this big, this big announcement, he had to lay off 7,000 jobs. 7,000 jobs.

That's not easy. And you're going to get a lot of criticisms on that. And you're going to get a lot of hits. And that's not the easy decision to make because people are going to go, why? Because I saw it. It's like people always go, well, why don't you cut your salary? Bob, what are you going to cut the people's salary? It's like, it's not other way it works, guys.

It's a, when you're hired on this, it's not how it's, it's not how it works. But I feel like it's all, it's all relative. I think if it's the standard cost to doing business, I think you're spot on. But if you're like, I laid off half of our workforce, well, now you do need to like. Yeah, not half. though. I mean, I mean, 7,000 still for Disney, it's, it's a chunk, it's a chunk, but it's not half. And it's like, and, and with all the stuff that it's, it's, it's a whole big report and all the sequels that they announce coming up. But anyway, and he, and all the dumb decisions that he has made, and you look at how that is pretty public that all that happened. And the fact that Iger kind of came out and basically said it, you know that behind closed doors, he's like, that guy's a putts. Yeah. And, and I love, what I loved about it is just, He's like, okay, yeah, Ike, that's cool.

You want to get him fired? Well, don't worry, we're going to take him off your hands. He's going to work with Alan. No, he's cool. He's going to work on the film side. You're all right? No, I'm not. I'm furious.

Cool. He's working in the movies. Billion dollar franchise. Billion dollar franchise. And, like, Game of Thrones. Ike is just sitting in his corner with like pissed off, just like throwing things against the wall going, Alan, it's just like, I got to find a new friend now because Bob, Ikeye just took sides. What is he doing now?

Well, you see, I think he's still part of the company. He's still part of Marvel, for sure, right? he just got a different division, is he? I don't think he's no Marvel anymore. Because Kevin Feigey has had three promotions since then where he's literally the one above all. And likewise that you were talking about, I like talking to Kevin Feigey more than the actors

because I like to know what Kevin Feigey's like consuming, like what he's reading, what he's watching and stuff. Chairman and former CEO. Yeah, definitely not involved Marvel anymore. Damn, no, they did not put the Thanos dusting on his ass. Oh, I got a... There's a thumbnail. Oh, that's good.

Oh, I love that. Oh, that's great. That's amazing. I got to bring that out of. Who did that? That's amazing. Hold on. I'm going to bring that.

Somebody's to get hired by Disney for that. The title is Kevin Feigey's promotion. Figey did it. Oh, yeah. Enhance. Yeah, I will. Zoom and enhance. Oh, that's so good.

Really good. That's really good. I am inevitable. And I am Kevin Figey. Oh, hilarious. That's great. You say anything when he got, he just sighed, right?

Yeah, I just accepted. Here he goes. That tells you anything. Anyway. That was my thought. That's why I've got strong opinions. Anyway. All right.

So let's move on. All right, Winston, you're up. You got some stuff to talk about. What do you want to talk about? Well, we already talked about finding. What about the Batman list? I'm always curious about who's... Yeah, yeah, sure.

So speaking of the comic book movie website, which we get a lot of our stories, most of our stories, actually, from them when it comes to this. We have a story. They have a list and some ideas of who they think could be the Batman for the Brave and the Bold. And they have seven actors. Now, we don't necessarily know of any of these actors would be, should be cast, but we're going to read their list.

Last week, DC Studios revealed the first movies and TV shows that we part of Chapter 1, Gods and Monsters, and the Brave and the Bold was among the biggest surprises. Matt Reeves, the Batman 2 will be released in theaters in 2025, but the DCU is getting its own Dark Night in a movie that will introduce the Bat family and Damon Wayne. Damian Wayne, not Damon Wayne's. Damian Wayne in a movie heavily inspired by Grant Morrison's, although Damon Wayne's, not Damon Wins, it was Marlon.

Marlon's Robin. Grant Morrison's Batman and Robin Run. James Gunn recently confirmed that this Batman would be older than Superman, so who should play the DCUs, Kay Crusader. Rumor has it. DC Studios are looking for someone around 25 to play the man steal and Bruce Wayne has a 10-year-old son so they're guessing he's going to be in his mid-30s at the very least that opens up the door to plenty of exciting possibilities when it comes to casting

and here are the exciting ideas that we have Taryn Agerton I think he'll be Wolverine so I think he's out but it's an interesting choice it's an interesting choice so we get into that in a second I don't know me he's got the chiseled face that honestly I know he broods a lot I think he would be a good Superman so let's I don't know about that all right let's let's let's look Sure. Let's talk, no, he's not. He's like 5-11. Let's talk about, let's just, I'm going to give the list first, and then we'll give our choices of who we liked the best. So Tarynne, once a fan favorite for Spider-Man and most recently Wolverine. What if he joined the DCU instead? So the next one we have for their, that they have chosen would be Richard Madden from Game of Thrones, of course, and Internals. Richard Madden's MCU rules, Icarus appeared to be a one and done based on the event. of Eternals, and while that's a shame, we have, maybe he could link up. It's an interesting choice. Madden could definitely pull up playing a father at the end of his tether with his son.

Winston Duke. Interesting. We're not going to say that Marvel Studios has wasted Winston Duke. I don't know about that. But he should have been given more to do in Black Panther, Wakanda, forever. Definitely agree with that. Unlike the other actors listed here, he has a history with the Cape Crusader, having lent his voice to the hero in the podcast series, Batman I'm Buried.

I didn't know that. We'd also give a young black or mixed race actor The opportunity to put their stamp on Robin Still not convinced check out Duke's jaw dropping work in nine days And get back to us Jake Gyllenhaal We run the risk of getting into DC-EU territory here But if DC Studios is looking to cast a Batman

Who has been protecting Gotham City long enough To an entire bat family Jillen Hall would be a superb pick He's only 42 And Bathwick was the same age And between Spider-Ban far from home And ambulance we've seen many sides to the actor Ben Barnes.

Ben Barnes, he was also in, what the hell was the movie? Cassie, what's the freaking was called? The Chronicles. Thank you, thank you. So could he, so we have focused on a lot of big names. Ben Barnes, who is no means and nobody, might be a good choice to play Batman. He doesn't bring any preconceived notions with him.

He's impressed in everything. Punisher to Deltoros' Cabinet of Curiosity's. So maybe he could do one of these big roles. Jensen Eccles. Jensen Eccles was great in the boys, by the like. He was in Smallville. He went to Supernatural, and he was recently on The Boys. This would be one of those fan-pleasing casting decisions, but the DCU needs that.

Luke Evans. Luke Evans might just be one of the most underrated talents working in Hollywood, and you've seen him in, obviously, the fast movies, but looking in the future, pairing him alongside the likes of Superman and Booster Gold is surprisingly easy, and Evans is such a skilled actor. I think these are all really good choices. I really do. I think that this is a great list by comic book movie.

I really enjoy this list in general. I'm going to start and tell you the one that I actually, the one that stood out to me the most that I think, I like all of them and I think that for the majority of them I would be, I don't think there's one of them that was cast, I'd be like, ugh, but I'd be like, really? The other ones that were mentioned? Jensen Eccles.

Yeah. I think Jensen Eccles, because, look, he had that run in Supernatural, which he was really good. And obviously it was a show that to be able to break out of that, And they had to, he didn't just get the boys. They had to push him into that thing. They had to get him in there.

They had to, he wasn't, he wasn't, soldier boy wasn't like, oh yeah, we want Jensen for it. They had to push for it. And because of that role, you can see that brooding Bruce Wayne thing. I think Jensen Eccles is a fantastic pick. He's also a recognizable guy. And by the supernatural fan, he's a God, right? You know, for sure. But he's not like a mainstream superman.

mainstream guy that you say his name to majority of people, John Pinto, who I always bring up and bring John Pinto, who's that? Right. And I think that's what you need. You need somebody who's got enough recognition and a massive fan base. So he's my choice. He's also really good at the fans. Yes. Like, I love how he treats cons. He respects the fans. He respects the con culture. Like he's a part of us in a way that isn't like a negative or positive yet to dissuade. Like he could fit and it would be like natural for him. He's my pick. So Winston, that list, that particular list, who stood out if they said, that's the guy? You were like, yeah, that's my vote.

Truthfully, I agree with you. Eccles, just in the sense that, like, at first, when I saw that, I literally had a split in my brain where I was like, oh, no, dude, he was mad evil. And then the other part of me, I was like, dude, it's a role. Kill the f-out. Like, that's what he's supposed to do. And you're right. Those moments where he wasn't.

completely psychotic when he was just like smoking his cigars and like chilling his soldier boy that was spot on um and bruce has a lot of that they has to deal with and i i can believe just just be i don't know ankles enough i didn't watch supernatural i can believe that he can play the the bruce part of it where he used to yeah right the voice you know what i also like about two winsons is that these other choices as great as all are a majority of them have a Marvel thing for on them. Like a lot of them. And it's not that you can't separate it, as you just said. And the Boys is a big show, but it's not Marvel.

And to not have a Marvel actor jumping, oh, we had them in Marvel. Now we got them in D.C. The boys is huge, but the boys is still niche. Yes. If we're being 100% honest, we love it. But like, I know a bunch of people in the general population. Like, what the hell is the boy? Also, Jensen Ackles voiced Red Hood, which is the storyline they might bring in here.

And he dressed his red hood for Halloween and, like, is clear. clearly devoted to that world. So again, there's like a passion that I respect. I'm gonna go. Can I guess? Can I guess? We got a gillen hall. Actually, no. No?

No, because I honestly, and the reason behind that is I love Jake Jillenhall, but because he's Jake Jillenholl, I would see Jake Chillon. Yeah, 100%. The issue I'd have to be like, well, that's a Jillynch. Like, I just, I'm a fan of dude. And we said this. You don't need a big star to sell Batman. Because the IP is the character.

Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, yeah. So I actually went with the one that I think is the least known of these because of that. That's Ben Barnes. I think Ben Barnes looks like. Barnes looks like what I picture Bruce Wayne. Like I picture Ben Barnes mourning over a grave and it looks like Bruce Wayne. Like the long coat, the ability to feel like he's both a playboy with darkness behind him.

And Ben Barnes has one of those faces where I think when you see him, you'd go, that guy can't fight, but he can. Like Ben Barnes is one of those like rich aristocracy cheekbone things. Totally. I can see him pulling off both. Yeah, for sure. So I'm going to go Ben Barnes. And also the darkness and Punisher.

I hear you, I guess, and I know that bodies can change. That's why you pay. He's up in the skisdialian dollars to get him in shape trainer and all that kind of stuff. He's just so scrawny looking like across the board that I was like, nah. And it's not that Bruce has to be jacked. If anything, that's too much.

Yeah. Bruce has to look very much in shape, but it's just a little more. I'll say with that one tonight. I know you just acknowledge that you can get, Gal Gadot was criticized tremendously when she was cast of how skinny she was. And she got in Wonder Woman shape pretty quick.

Yeah. and looked just like one of them. Kamail Nanjani. Yeah. Camail Don't Joe. And you made that point. You made that point going into it. But Neil Adams,

Neil Adams Batman is that more slender and he's got the blue coloring instead. It's like gray and blue. I think the best way to distinguish Batman from the Patinson or any Batman before is go to a more life Batman and maybe do a blue suit. Like do the blue and gray, do stuff we haven't seen before.

And that might be a way to separate it. Because when I picture Taryn Edgerton, you guys just in format it. I don't know he's 511. I picture a stockier guy, which is why he's always been my Wolverine. So it's funny that body type is definitely a thing. but I think that a different body type from batflex would be beneficial.

I get it. But he would have to put on some pounds. Like you'd have to eat some protein. No, no. That's the whole thing. 5.9. He's like my height. 5.9.

I thought he was 511. Okay. So that's more Wolverine. Wolverine's like 5.5. But in Hollywood. Wolverine was 5. Wolverine's tiny, but they haven't done it right. So I'm going to accept 5.5.

They're never going to make a 5.3. They're never going to make a 5-3 Wolverine. But that's another conversation. But like, so him being at least 5-9 is a protein. Because it plays too small on, on television, on screens, like as Corey was saying, 5-8 would, can play, can play 5-5. That's fair. You can't play 5-3, but you can play 5-5.

Yeah, I mean, because if you took Tom Cruise out of his 75-inch heels, he would look little. Also, like, you know, Tom Hardy shoots very creatively. Like, Tom Hardy's a short guy, and they make, like, Bain is big and intimidating. But if you also look at Tom Hardy, like, next to Chris Pine and, like, the rom-com they did together, when they're very much, like, adjusting. They're very, because he's my height. Tom Hardy. So like there's a creativity, but you can't go the other way to that extreme. That's actually my pick. Glenn Palf to play Batman? Yeah, I don't know. I think he's my

Hal Jordan. Yeah, I think he's got more. He's got more. To me, he's got a little bit more that Golden Age. Yeah. And what more you'd be, I think be limiting his charm, not in a suave way, because Bruce has charm that way, but I think that Glenn Powell needs to kind of be talking and cracking jokes and things of that nature. But that's, but that's exactly why I, actually would really enjoy that is a situation where like, because truthfully, the Batman stories I enjoy the most are the ones where like he has to be Bruce and like use that as the disguise. And I agree. I think the best way to do a lighter Bruce Wayne Batman story is by having Damien Wayne because he's going to be the darker one. I'm not saying Bruce is going to be light,

but I think he'll be lighter than Pattinson, which will also distinguish. And that's kind of why I think a slightly more light blue suit gray. And then I do think Ben Barnes can bring that. But also like Glenn Powell to me reads, I know that Green Lantern's a Silver Age character, but he's got a Golden Age sensibility. You hear me. But like that sensibility of the golden age of heroes, I think we'll have to be like separate from Batman. Like I want him to feel like the oddball. I also think Glenn Powell's going to show up in

Marvel, by the way. I think so. He's at the premiere and he's there kind of chatting it up with people too. And he's friends with majors. So I think Clint Powell's going to wind up showing up in Marvel. Who knows? Yeah, great Cyclops, man. But I do. So, all right. So, Winston, Winston, right? Yeah, he would be great. He would be a great cyclops. Him and Justin Hartley are my cyclops.

He's older, Hartley, younger, Powell. Winston and I are on the same page with, with Jensen Eccles as our number one out of that list. And then Coy, Ben Barnes would probably would be higher on list for me as well, too. But just to go back and just for everybody in the comments section, once again, I'm going to go through the... I have something... I have something... He has been up for Batman a few times. He has. He's my last choice out of the whole list. I really like him a lot, but not as... I agree with you 100%.

He's just too recognizable. I'd want him to be the patents in Batman. And that's the issue is I'd rather have him in prisoners again. You know what I mean? That's the Patman. So, Egerton, I think, is going to be Wolverine. So I think he's out. That's a great point.

That's my number two. Richard Madden is an interesting choice. That's a good choice. Richard Madden is an interesting choice, and I would love that choice. Winston Duke's an interesting choice too. I just, I don't know. I'd like to see him. It's too fun.

I'd like to see him do something else. Yeah, but he could be pretty damn serious. I can, but I don't want to waste that. I want to see him do something else besides Batman as Waltz. I want to see him really, because Winston Duke is a stall. I'll be honest with you. There's been a number of choices potentially for John Stewart, but give him John Stewart. That would be great.

Yeah, that would be great. Winston Duke, that's a, and he can, and is John Stewart, does he have humor? I don't know. I don't know the character. Not as much. He's more of a Marine. He's not really. But like, they're about to do that lantern show.

Give him the show and put him, put him into the movies. Uh, Jillen Hall, yeah, he's just too famous. Ben Barnes, I think, is a good choice for sure.

Jensen Nichols is my guy at number one. And then Luke Evans would be interesting too. I still think he's, he kind of, you know, teeters on the,

uh, pretty recognizable, but he, but he's not, I don't, but I think this article's right that he's pretty, he's pretty underrated, for sure.

I mean, he was, what's so funny is he was Gastone, right? And, uh, that movie made a billion dollars. And he's still underrated because it's,

he's in, He's been in the Fast and Furious movies. He's underrated. He was Dracula and that failed. That's right. He was almost the Monster Universe. Absolutely. So, but he almost got recruited by Russell Crow.

He's been an interesting pick too, but I think he's, still, I like the casting of like the young 30s, mid-30s. Yeah. Jensen's my number three. I think for me it's Ben Barnes and then the Richard Madden and then Jensen Ackles are my top. I love this list, though. I think Common's movie did a phenomenal job there of listing. Hopefully one of those is the actual potentials. I like that list.

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Fige almost dropped a spoiler while being interviewed. The MCU Mastrow was asked about Jonathan Major's performance as the villainous Kang the Conqueror and stopped just short of saying a little too much. He said Majors is such a versatile actor. He's getting a lot of great acclaim in numerous movies coming out around this time. And we've already, I almost gave you a big spoiler. What was he going to say? It's almost impossible to know for sure.

Now, I'm going to play the actual clip because Winston and I listened to it beforehand. I want Corey to hear it as well because we started kind of speculating of what we thought. Here's the clip from Kevin. Welcome to Phase 5, Phase 5! So tell us a little bit more about Jonathan Majors and what made him the right guy to be RK. You know, he's great, and Pitt Reed was a huge, huge advocate for Jonathan a year and a half ago, two years ago, whatever it was. We were casting that role for both Loki, Who Who Remains, and Quantummania. And obviously he shot He Who Remains First and then this, but you can see already if viewers who saw

him in Loki, saw him in the trailer for Quantummania. He is such a versatile actor. He's getting a lot of great acclaim in numerous movies coming out around this time. And we've already, I almost gave you a big spoiler. But we've got lots of lines ahead for it. So I totally think that was legit. Oh, I love that his brain is always five steps ahead of his mouth. And then the one time it's not, he actually has to be broke.

His brain went, he stopped in it. He was like, it was like, it was like variances himself inside of his head going. Shut up. Bro, I guarantee you if Tom Holland saw the seasons, I'm like, no, I almost died. Damn it. Who's holding the sniper of Kevin Feigey's on camera? Kevin's not there?

Right. I love that. And so the question is then what I had said to Winston is like it just, he said we already, we've already shot stuff with him, basically. And Winston's like, of course they did because it's, it's Kang. And, you know, he's set up to be in more stuff. We know that. And they say it in in Loki that there's going to be tons of them and all.

But the question. The We've already means like, what have they shot him in? I would assume he pops up in either Guardians or he pops up in Loki's season two. I think he's in the Marvels. He pops up in the Marvels. I mean, I would assume all of those.

I think he's, I think he's going to be Scarlet's St. Mercurian somewhere. I think he's going to be a Mortis somewhere. I think he's going to be Loki somewhere. I mean, he who remains type in somewhere. Because only he who remains has been met by us. And then he died.

But that version of him was the altruistic, that was trying to help while manic. So we're going to see other hymns more like that, but also other hymns more like the one you've met, and then also ones we haven't met. I have a feeling that when we get to King Dynasty, we've met King like 15 times. Yeah.

And then they're all back. Council of Kings. Mm-hmm. I have a strong feeling that it's a situation where, like, we will have seen this dude multiple times, like, again? And then by the time it, you're like, oh, oh. You don't cast Jonathan Majors to play opposite himself unless you're doing it 20 times.

Like you don't, you don't what I mean? Like, the visual of a time. ton of majors is just arguing with themselves is why you cast. Well, that's what, so when he was saying that when he's like, we've already, so I think you've probably said along that, we've already shot with him a handful of times. We've already shot with him, you know, on, on this, on that. We've already have him, like, lined up because Kang Dynasty leads to the fact, like, you're going to be so, but by the time you get there, you're going to be so into, like, him already.

Because you said he's going to, I agree with Winston, however many times it is, because you're setting this up. What you have to do within that, though, is set up another villain, whether that's going to be Doom or somebody else. Like, there are other spoiler reports that came out, by the way. That's why I haven't been on the internet. Not about quantum media, about potential things happening in secret wars that I don't want to dive into because apparently they're revealing like other villains and stuff.

Oh, wow. We don't have to get into that. But there are two things that the writing is on the wall, one announced and one not officially announced that I think that he almost said. So leave King Dynasty out of it, I think, fantastic for it just because King does have that tying with both Reed and Doom.

And the other is a Young Avengers movie because that is also, especially with Iron Lad, I can very much see a situation since we have clearly set up the Young Avengers are coming. We don't know when. I think that that may, he may have, because just to say, We've already shot a bunch of stuff with him.

That's not a spoiler. Like we, again, you have a movie called Kang Dynasty at some point. What I found interesting is the context, right? Because he was talking about the difference between he who remains Jonathan Majors and the one you're about to meet. He was clearly talking about a different type of acting style, performance, whatever from Majors. I think he was about to reveal another Kang in like verbally. I think he was about to say, we've already worked with him in another.

Like, I think that was about to be like the flavor of Kang, not the movie. But I get, well. See, that's the only place where I sort of disagree because when he said Jonathan is about to have a bunch of stuff coming out because then you got Creed, you got... But I mean, like, I think he was about to reveal a movie, but I mean, like, in that movie he was about to reveal, I think he was accidentally revealing that he's playing a different version of him.

I think he could have just said, like, we're about to blah, blah, blah with the Marvels and we do have... And like, that makes sense. But I think the implication of him being maybe like Immortus or Scrotist or Scaluturian in the Marvels. If he was going to say a name, sure, but it almost feels like he was about to reveal a movie

because we still have some movie slots that have not been filled with titles yet. Maybe. I think I spoke poorly. I think he was about to say the word of a movie, but I think the reality would have been, that would have revealed a different take of King. Could also been a spoiler. Could also be a spoiler from Ant Man. True. And Quantumania. It could have been something that, you know,

when he's a major spoiler, could probably be something maybe we've already seen him in doing this and then realize going, no, they haven't seen that yet because it's coming out next week. So who knows, but it's fun to speculate on things like that. Only Kevin Feigey's brain knows what it was. Man, can you imagine Pearl, whatever his name was?

Right. Oh, man, it would not have gotten this far. No, it wouldn't have gotten this far. Anyway, all right, look, so speaking of where we have gotten far with, that's Boom Studios, man. Boom Studios has been really phenomenal. We've been happy to be working with them in general. And now they have this segment that they sponsor on the show. and it's just highlighting one of their wonderful, wonderful pieces that they have coming out.

And this is exciting. Boom Studios is one of the top publishers for original horror comics. And this week, we got to take a look at their first big horror release of 2023. The book is called Hauer, and it is a bloody, old-school-inspired slasher with a killer design, and it is a very compelling mystery at the center of the story. It's in the small town of Barlow, which is a peaceful, quiet place where nothing bad really happens, except that is for the Hower. Arlo holds a dark secret. For centuries, a real-life boogeyman

has emerged every 10 years to hunt and kill residents in the town. Now there's a teenage girl who is obsessed with the legend of the Hower and it comes face to face with the monster and must discover its secrets. And who or what is this monstrous entity? What does it want? And how do you survive? Issue number one, it comes out this week at your local comic book store written by Justin Jordan,

the co-creator of the strange talent of Luther Strode with art by Bram Revell. I'm going to start with you, Koi. So you got a chance here to take a look. Thoughts, comments, concerns? I love this as someone who I scream is my jam. I'm not big on the modern torture porn kind of horror. I love classic, which it hurts me to say classic 90s horror,

but it is now. I like Scream and Halloween and those horror films like the Slashers, and this is that on the page. So when you say horror comic, I think of myself is not liking, horror comics, but more and more I realize I do like horror in that medium. I think what Joe Hill has done, I think what a lot of interesting James

Tyneenwork is, but this is a different one altogether because it's not a, you know, mental manipulation, it's like a slasher, which it wouldn't seem like on paper would work because you'd be like, why am I scared to turn the page? But it is very, very riveting and like very anxiety driven and there's a lot of like anticipation and tension in the art

and the writing is pure slasher teen greatness. It feels like you put into VHS and it's a comic instead. I love this personally. Yeah, I, y'all know I hate horrors. Yeah, I know, I know. That's not easier to read, though, for you than to watch? Absolutely.

But the other thing is, too, I am down with horror if it's more of a thriller, and that's kind of what this is. Like you said, it reads like a classic slasher movie, and I was already enthralled with, like, this, because slashes like that have a tendency, if you're talking to scream type slasher's, or I know what you did last summer, there's a mystery of foot.

So in this particular case, it's exactly that. It's like, what the hell is the horror? What, what is, what do all the adults know that the kids clearly don't? Like that, that is what I was getting the entire vibe. And I, it's so crazy, man. I am grateful that we have partnered with Boom like this because every week, I'm out here in these streets being like, well, they're going to miss at some point.

Nobody shoots 100%. They haven't missed. I'm so glad to this studio because there are comics that are missing. Well, this is what I'm going to say about Boom Studios is that the name is at. and studios is exactly what they feel like. They don't feel like a comic book publisher. They feel like a studio that puts together, as we were just talking about like with Marvel,

with the genres of film, the different genres that they're continuously, they keep doing. Like they have science fiction, they have thrillers, they have horrors, they have, they have,

they have all this stuff that really plays in. And this is another one that it just, it, they're very smart in who, they target and what they can target is they go off to horror fans here, but they also go after people who just like really good kind of intriguing stories and stuff that this is the type of, this will be the one of the movies, though, that goes fast. This will turn into a movie. This is good screen late in six months and made in nine. Fast. So once again, Boom Studios, make sure you

check this one out, the Howard. It's out. It's coming out. But, um, Coy, anything else you got a recommendation? Uh, yeah, well, actually, two things because one, right now, Barnes and Noble, I usually say, you know, local comic bookstore. But the next best thing to local comic book store, I always support your LCS first. But a bookstore is as rare as a comic store nowadays. And Barnes & Noble has a buy one get one free. Like free image comics, every graphic novel, every image out there. So a lot of my favorite graphic novels of all time, like saga, deadly class, the most recent lonely at the center of the earth, sex criminals, all of this is by one, get one free. So if you've been curious about a run, you could literally pick it up for the

10 or 15 bucks it is and have two years worth in some cases. You can also get their mega deluxe graphic novels that are like 18 issues and get like 36 for the price of 18 Incredible deal incredible bargain I've never seen them do this than anything about Criterion and also Individually Poison Ivy number nine came out this week and it is a DC comic in the Poison Ivy world and it is maybe one of the best Tellings of Harley Quinn I've ever seen it's a one shot so you literally don't have to have read one through eight You won't have to read further if you just want to read a love story that made me like feel like love is real and also made me understand Harley better and made me love Poison Ivy more. Poison Ivy number nine explained Harley in a way in one issue that I think I've read entire

runs that couldn't. It is genius and it is beautiful and it's a wonderful love story. I will be honest with you that it was a very smart move on DC's part because honestly the best kind of promotion is cross-promotion because the Harley Quinn Valentine's Day special came out today or yesterday this Friday. So yesterday. And I couldn't think of a smarter thing to do. Put her on the cover with it.

Absolutely. And so I can't wait to actually watch it. As of recording this, I didn't have a chance to yet. But oh my God, just based off of the trailer. Yeah, it's a good time to like Harley Quinn. I got one as well. Oh, what you got? But only because you guys are probably, you definitely have read it.

And you guys have both watched it. And I worked for the company for three years and never did anything. Finally. I started, I didn't even know I had. Also, Vaila Barnes & Noble. What buy one going for you? I have them all on my shelf and I just realized it. Turn around behind you.

I didn't even realize. I started watching the show on Amazon. Oh, you started it too. That's why I looked. I would have never known that I even had this. And I started watching it on Amazon after talking to you guys. I started watching it. And it's really good.

I mean, it's really, really good. And then I, so then I went in and I started looking at, I started looking at the comics. And it's fantastic. So it's, it's, I love that they were behind us this whole time. Also, I told you, man, Seth Rogen, Evan Goldberg. Like, if they give them some time, they're going to. to be like the Kevin Faggy TV between the boys and Vince. No, I remember. I put that short on and people were like,

they were not mad, they were like, they didn't produce that. And I'm like, and I was like, and literally do your research. It's just Google. And he has a voice. Yeah, he's in the show. And he's in one of these two. Anyway, so. Such a good book.

Thank you, by the way, to Boom Studios for producing this segment. Tons of different suggestions here in general. But thanks to you guys for joining us on this episode of Big Thing, Capes and Cows, before we go, throw it over to Coy Chondro, where can they find you? Find me on YouTube, which I'm trying to grow. Christian has inspired me with the acceleration and aggression he's grown this channel with. I'm very impressed, so I'm doing my own thing on YouTube at Coy Jondro, also on Twitter and TikTok and Instagram, starting back on Tuesday because I don't trust you fools.

Damn and spoilers, but I'll be back next week, but for now YouTube. Smart move. Yeah. Winston. Same, same. It's a thing right there. I have a really fun new comedy podcast coming out very soon. I've got some other comedy sketches and shorts

on my YouTube page and all my TikTok so please at the Swaggy Blurred on all platforms and let's have some fun this year man All right and so for me I remember mentioned it to you guys You got it just a couple days February 13th Brett and I It's the first time we're sharing a Los Angeles comedy Standup Comedy stage in over 10 plus years together

So if you're able to make it out The link is in the description It's Jake Lewis's show Jake Lewis is hilarious by the way speaking of Jake Lewis, him and Jamie Costa put out a, there's a trailer that was released from the Hollywood Reporter. They're doing a, it's called The Cowboy and the Samurai, and it's about, based off of true events,

you know, it's a telling of the true events of John Belushi, kind of putting himself in this house, and the two producers are trying to get him out, and he won't come out, and Jack Nicholson walks in, and has to get him out, and it's Jack Nicholson and John Belushi in the house the whole time, and Jack Nicholson is playing. played by Jamie Costa and Sandy Danto, who I knew from The Comedy Story Days, plays John Belushi, so you could check that trailer out.

But Jake Lewis directed it, and he also directed the Robin Williams Shore. So Jake Lewis will be performing, very funny guy. He was on The Big Thing before he did a comedy, he did a song at the very end that he performs. So you should come out. And let me know that you're going to be there. I'd love to see you guys. And that's it. So thanks for joining us on Capes and Cals, Big Thing.

when we get to season two of Invincible and if you guys want this, tell it in the comments we should talk about like all graphic novel of Invincible like volume one. Like if you guys want to hear about like comparing the two I think it'd be fun for you since you're just discovering it. Let us know in the comments. It'd be fun. All right guys. So thanks again for joining us today on the show

for Winston and Coy. We appreciate you very much and we'll see you on the flip side everybody. It's capes and cows. It's big thing. Peace.