The Kristian Harloff Show - Kpop Demon Wins Big At The Box Office!

Episode Date: August 25, 2025

The box office is buzzing and we've got a lot to cover on today's episode of The Kristian Harloff Show! Kristian Harloff is joined by John Rocha as co-host to break down the latest in movie news, from K-pop demon slayers taking the crown at the box office to surprising updates on the MCU and DCU. SPONSORS:  CAR GURUS: Buy or sell your next car today with Car Gurus at http://www.cargurus.com RUGIET: Head to http://www.rugiet.com/KRISTIAN and use code KRISTIAN to get 15% off today. Topics include: "Kpop Demon Hunters" Wins The Box-Office  – The breakout hit slashes its way to #1. Summer Box-Office Won't Hit $4 Billion  – Why Hollywood might fall short this season. Fantastic Four's Global Box Office Surges  – Marvel's first family might finish bigger than expected. Superman Crosses $600 Million Worldwide  – Outgrossing nearly every DCEU film to date. Jerry Adler, "Sopranos" & "Good Wife" Star, Dead  – Remembering the acclaimed actor. Chloé Zhao Reflects On Eternals  – Why the lack of boundaries may have hurt Marvel's cosmic epic.

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those glasses off. K-pop demon hunters. They put it in the theater for a little bit to do sing-alongs. It's the number one movie of the weekend. So the question is, besides it being a massive hit for Netflix, does Netflix look and go, maybe we should put some of these things in the theater? I don't know.

So that was positive for the box office. A negative for the summer box office, not even going to hit $4 billion combined. That's not going to be great. news for theaters probably thought it was going to be a lot bigger um superman crossed over hit around 600 plus fantastic we're just scratching the surface of 500 so we'll see how that's going to work and I think some other things here and there but for the most part it's myself and John Roker talking about that this and the other thing let's get into it it's Monday

here we go welcome back to the show here ladies and gentlemen it is Monday. Joining me on the show, as always on Monday, John Stephen Roker. What's going on, man, how are you? Good, good. What's going on with you? How was your weekend? It's good. We went to the beach yesterday. It was nice. Nice. With the kids went to, went to the beach, got to hang out for a little bit. It was a little overcast, but still nice, nice breeze. And the weather's been nice here. How would you compare the New York beaches to the Southern California beaches? Are you is just trying to have beaches or is it a legitimate? I mean, you don't remember it's Long Island.

It's right. You're the water. So it's like, yeah. So, but it's, the beaches have always been nice here, but it's, um, it's different. The beaches in California. But I'll tell you, it is way easier for me to get to the beach, uh, the beach that I go to here was me to get a down to each and go to, I mean, and I was only 10, 15 minutes away from the beach, but it was, it's a process because of the highways and everything.

It is. It is. It's kind of, it's kind of sucks. You know, ways. My wife and I were talking about this, not necessarily the beach, but just in general. You know when you go to a doctor's appointment in L.A.? Yeah. What was the last time you didn't pay for parking for somewhere?

In L.A., you don't. That's why I love it down here. Everywhere I go in San Diego, you don't pay for parking. And they're in L.A., you pay for parking. Everywhere you go, you pay for parking. It's not even downtown. Like, even outside of downtown. Everywhere you go, you pay for parking.

My wife and I were like, we were showing up to places here 15, 20 minutes early going on we're going to find parking and they're like we're sitting around for 20 minutes because they're like we found parking they actually have lots where they care about people yeah um anyway so that's that we have a lot to other things discussed right before we went on the air it talked about we can kind of get into this um so you know i'm doing matt sarah's podcast and one of the one of the guests that we had on not too long ago was was rampage back yeah um it's a really good episode for us and great conversation between the two of them and he's got a pretty successful podcast but he's in the news and not in a great way his uh his son more so one who's in the news um because we we talk about wrestling on

this show so i think it's it's kind of relevant to what we're talking about here i guess that his son um what's what's what's what's his son's name roger roger jackson was was in um so i don't even know how he was there but so essentially what happened in in this rest there's like a low it was you know indie wrestling thing yeah um but i think that they somehow related to wwee at somebody they own this thing so they're affiliated they're affiliated so behind the scenes I guess this this guy was a former vet and he he was he's part he's a key what's his name chaos I can't remember is I don't remember yeah yeah he Psycho Stu is the guy's name Stewart is his name okay so he he thought that he thought Roger was a was a wrestler so he

he and you see all this on video and he gets back and forth he's in and he's in his face and he and he takes a beer can and he goes to press it on his head like you're in wrestling and so he's psycho since kind of like oh you're not going to sell it you're going to sell it and he's like he's a wrestler man and then he apologizes profusely thought it was part of the thing and then they then they made it part of the show it's like you know what you can get him back you can kind of climb into the ring and go after yeah so the guy you know Sego says like I'm probably got to get a receipt here for what I did right so raja it was at m-m-a fighter um picks him up

over his shoulder, slams him down really hard in general. So that right there, if that was the moment, you'd be like, oh man, that was probably harder than he should. That was kind of like a slam. He probably knocked him out there. Yeah. That would have been a conversation alone, like, oh, should he slam him too hard? You could have seen people debating that. Sure. Sure. That is not even a fraction of what happened next. And so he gets on top of him like an MMA fight and is throwing really, really hard shots. This is an attack. This is an assault. And I don't care how they try to paint it or whatever.

The wrestling, it was in the scope of wrestling. Bull crap. I mean, if you made them part of the show, then you are responsible for the situation. But of course, I don't know what the contracts are that they sign. The wrestlers there, that whatever happens at a show, you can't sue knock ex pro wrestling or WWE as an extension because they're affiliated with them. because this is this this was a stupid idea they clearly did not run this clearly by raja or if they did uh that's even a worse look for raja that he went into business for himself delivered what

they call a quote unquote receipt and just pummeled this dude apparently he had a mixture of blood and teeth he stroking on his own blood is what he said but the thing is this is clearly raja is someone who doesn't know the wrestling world rampage had said something like too the same thing he doesn't come no no oh no this isn't this is an excuse Not an excuse at all. I'm saying he doesn't. I'm saying that. I'm saying that he's nonsense.

But go ahead. But I don't, but I don't believe that he, I agree that I don't think he knew because I think he goes in there. You're backstage at a wrestling event and you're like, what, what is this pro wrestling? No,

no, I don't mean that. I don't mean stuff at pro wrestling. I'm not talking about the rules though, dude. The rules of like receipts and those types of things. Like I mentioned, like,

you know, it's like, oh, I'm going to get this guy in the ring. It's like, but you don't get him in the ring by really throwing real punches guy. Yeah. Like, well, like Brock Lesnar did to brush out.

Exactly. And that one in the face. That's like, calm down, dude. You just hit me. Let's get back to wrestling now. This is just an assault on someone, beating the piss out of the guy. And I'll tell you who I blame besides,

obviously him. Right. The referee is right there. And he's like, oh, stop, stop. After the first punch, you go, whoa. There's one wrestler who comes in and actually grabs them. like that guy comes in and actually and he's like wrestling him off

and trying to get him away. There's another wrestler who's just oh yeah I don't know what to do you get involved this is this is this is bad bad news in general UFC banned him for coming to events like life ban or something. You know it's something if UFC bans you

because they let anything get away in there but like this this situation is just sad and it's not and you don't know what possess this guy to keep like as you can say he said like well they were supposed to pull me off of him and it's like well no but you don't just keep punching until they pull you off of you understand what pro wrestling is you're not a 10 year old you're an adult a person of age

and uh i think they're just trying to cover up his rage and uh losing control and because he's rampage if this was anyone else if this was not rampage jackson son this guy would be in jail like honestly and i think this whole situation is just a shame and but it just shows that you know you need to be and and they showed some of these wrestlers encouraging him backstage to go after this guy so that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Some people are posted tweets about that saying like, that's what I'm saying though. They're encouraging him in a wrestling way. Yeah, in a wrestling.

And this is what I mean by him not understanding wrestling, him taking it, oh, okay, I'm going to do it my way. So anyway, it's an unfortunate thing. So for people going to lie, we talk about this. Because as we talk about wrestling on this show, if you're brand new to the show, we talk about wrestling on this show, this is wrestling related. So that's why. And it's also a character show, not the movie show. So human being for God.

Yeah. So it's something that happened. You get to your man in tights and their fake scenarios flying around in a second, relax. Well, but I'm not even bring that up because I think the big, the big news right now. Yeah. Oh, you know what? Now that you said that, it's your show, Broko, where you want to go? I actually want to go with, I watched, because I was going to, I was going to wait to do Peacemaker with Sam. And then I was like, I really want to watch it.

I love Peacemaker season one. And I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to watch. I'm going to watch the first one and then maybe see if it's worth doing the reactions. Maybe it's maybe I'll do a review on it and if Sam wants to see him on her own

and we can just stick to the movies because the TV has takes so much time. Yeah. And I don't want to watch it. So I watched it last night and I liked it. I didn't love it as much as I wanted to though. I mean, yeah. Yeah, I liked it a lot. But I was, it

felt like, I don't know. I think the first season the jokes felt like they were just moving this one felt like a couple times and like oh let's just throw in some obscene jokes to throw in obscene jokes yeah and and i'm like it it still fits the vibe it's not like differently it's not like there are so many obscene jokes in season one so it's not like they went off of the tone like it was but it was just like some of some of the jokes felt forced yeah i was like oh that's that's not what i wanted um i did not like the scene with Guy Gardner, Max Lord, and Hawkins.

I didn't like that scene. I thought that scene was one of the ones. Like, okay, let's just, just a bunch of different jokes. But the overall tone of it, I like, they stuck to the emotional things with, with Peacemaker

and what he's got to go through and the idea of, he's still wrestling with Dave, his dad and his brother, that stuff I love. I love that stuff. But I don't know. Also, maybe it just came off

Tulsa King's season two, and I was so locked in to the perfect thing. So I don't know. What do you think of it? Are you in the same page? You're like more Frank Grillo. Yes, I liked it for what it was,

but I was underwhelmed by it overall. But there are positives. Here are the positives. I like what they're doing with Harcourt. I am one of these people. I may go after James Gunn at times, but I always defend Jennifer Holland, his wife because I think she's a damn good actress,

and I don't care that he's giving her opportunities because she's actually knocking out of the park when she gets a chance to do it. And so I like that they're giving her more to do this season. And I don't think it's just because she's married to him. I think because this is a character that's really interesting and having her confront her own quote,

toxic masculine energy as a commentary and then seeing that, yes, she does indulge in these characteristics and what does it mean? You're setting up an interesting arc for her. So I like that. With Peacemaker, I agree that some of the jokes were forced. And this is where we get to the point where James Gunn, writing everything isn't necessarily a great thing

because it starts to strain at times and break and the jokes don't necessarily land. And so you're getting less humor as he's making more attempts at it. And that's not always a good thing. I thought the orgy scene was so unnecessary. But maybe I'm just getting older and pruder. I just thought it was dumb.

It didn't fit. It just kind of, it was, that's what I mean. We have the boys for that. We don't need this for that, you know, in my opinion. It just was there to say, look how obscene and crazy we can get. And, you know, a bunch of people with the dicks hanging out and everything, too. And it was like, I'm like, I get it.

I get where this is, it's the same tone. But it was like in the trailer, that made me laugh out loud. Oh, right. Of course. And then happened. But I'm like, right. I was because I thought it flowed better. But I was like, it was the emotional stuff.

I agree with you 100%. The hardcore stuff. She, that her stuff is great. It's the emotional stuff. And that's the stuff for me that I think really worked. Yeah. Yeah. And Frank, you mentioned Frank Grillo.

His, his storyline of the reason why he's there and the reason of me that he's going after Chris because of the thing with Rick Flagg. The recap, I thought the recap would work. And I was like, okay, yeah, I'll accept the fact that there was the justice gang instead of justice. Like, I don't care. Yeah, I don't care.

It's just like, yeah, it was, I felt like, as where all of the jokes and everything was, it felt like so organic, they felt like they were just reaching a little bit for some of the jokes. But it's only episode one. They could probably, they could, yeah. How many of you seen? I've seen the first three. Okay.

Because you texted me and we've talked about watching the episodes. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see. But like the, yeah, the Maxwell Lord thing, he is in charge of Lord Tech. But we're going to believe that he doesn't know how a microphone works. Like it's those little things that you're just like, I get you're trying to make a joke. But you don't have to make the character stupid to make the joke.

There's another way around that. And I just thought that was a bit of even having the bunny girl walk out. That to me felt a little like, okay, I get you. you're trying to be cool and make a deep cut. But there are just moments. But you're right. The emotional stuff is what works. And I wish they leaned in that a little bit more because that's what I loved about season

one. It wasn't his ability to beat people up or the deep cuts or, you know, let's show as much sex as possible. It was what are these characters going through? Right. What are they overcoming? What can I universally feel connected to and have experienced myself that I see in this character that makes me care about this character?

And I think they kind of walked away from that a little bit. bit here in the show. But again, as you said, it's episode one. They're laying the groundwork. Right. Because clearly that all the universe is going to figure in a big deal to be a big deal in the season. So, yeah. Well, that's the so, the funny thing is a lot of times, you know, when it comes to these things, people always get on my case about like, well, you, you know, like when humor's in there, I actually was hoping for a lot of humor inside a peacemaker. Like, that's what made the show so spectacular in first one. And it called for it. It just, there was, and I went into it. Like I said, I had just finished up season two of Tulsa King last time.

You know what I'm going to start? I'll watch Peacemaker. I'm going to watch this because I love first season. I can't wait to see it. And it's got such great reviews. And I'm watching it going, I really like the story. Yeah. The story of where the show is going.

And I think that's the most important. Yes, agree. It's like, do you care about this to keep watching? And my answer is 100% yes. I want to see where it goes, how they're going to continue this on, how it all combines to DCU and mostly where it's going to go for him and this team. So I'm on board. It just like I was, I just felt like, oh, man, the jokes felt forced and I hated that.

I hope there's more with Ata Bio because she kind of was a big deal in the last season, and they kind of sidelined her a little bit in this opening episode. So I hope we get war with her. I think they're setting it up for her to do more. I mean, she's like in that hotel room and like, you know, just kind of, and he even has that conversation with her. He's like, you know, you're kind of a big deal. And now you're here. And so yeah, they're all going to come together and they're all going to come to help him.

So I like that. And I'm on board with it. How about the shot of Jared Leto's band at the end? I find that to be funny. I thought the kindness was the new punk rock, but I guess we can still take shots of people. I'm confused about the idea there. But yeah, I mean, I get it. He's basically saying Jared Leto is not a part of this universe.

And I know it's cool nowadays to bash on Jared Leto. But is it what is who is putting out Tron Airy? Isn't that WB? Who's putting out Troy and Harry's because it's Disney? Oh, okay. But yeah, this whole situation, I thought, wow, what an interesting shot to take at him. So clearly he's not coming back as the Joker,

even though Margo Robbie is still basically may be coming back. I don't know. I don't know. We'll say, but either way, what do you guys make of Peacemaker, episode one? Do you watch it? Like it? Not like it?

Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. All right, we have a lot of box office stuff to talk about. Yeah, a lot of box office stuff. So I mentioned it in my, in the opening there, the K-pop demon hunters, man, it wins the box office. One weekend, sing-alongs. The screenings of the Netflix and Sony animation, K-pop demon hunters easily topped the charts this weekend. A two-day event reportedly hauling in $9.6 million on Saturday target.

It did 18. So we'll do the overall numbers right here. Hold on a second. Um, and there you go. So K-pop demon hunters did 18 million. 18. It's pretty crazy. Just on those screenings alone, weapons bringing in 15.6,

he's up to almost 200 million so far for that movie. That's a massive hit. Freakier Friday, another one coming in the third place, 113 worldwide. It's a 70 million domestic so far. What was the movie? 70 million domestic. Fantastic four. I think it barely, it hasn't even,

cracked 500 yet 490 that's obviously a disappointment for marvel bad guys too uh which i think is also on digital 150 million worldwide not too bad and then we go to i think superman as you look right here superman just crossed 6004 million so you know john i think the big story here is k-pop demon hunters and yeah this is just just sing-along screenings bringing in that kind of money If you're Netflix, do you second guess your decision of putting these things in the theater or do you say, no, no, no, no, we have a good strategy. We know what we're doing. We're not going to spend another $100 million on marketing.

This was a freak thing. It was a massive hit. We didn't know it was going to be a hit. We put it in theaters. We made some extra money on it. Well, I think everything they're doing is a case-by-case basis, right? Because it just announced last week that Guillermo de Torenstein is going to get a three-week theatrical release to match what Narni.

is doing with Greta Gerwig getting a three-week theatrical release. But Ryan Johnson's new film is not going to get a theatrical release. So it's about case by case. And you look at, yes, demon hunters did really well. And congratulations, I've got to watch that at some point this was. But Ney-Zah, too, absolutely shit to bed, which was a massive hit coming out of China. They released it here in the States and it didn't do well. So I think it was a matter of the fact that K-pop demon hunters grabbed the pop culture

zeitgeist's attention on Netflix. And that's what inspired people to go. see it out in the theaters and have a communal experience with the film but there's no way to know how it would have done if they just released it straight into the theaters would it have caught fire possibly very possibly but it's also possible that it would have done what it did anyway at 18 million and it would have been that big of a deal you know oh no it probably wouldn't have done a 18 million maybe not even 18 opening weekend probably not no because people would know it it the reason why that people rushed out to see it because it was this phenomenon on on on streaming and yeah you know and had i had i mean so

I had gotten a potential press screen before it was going to take my girls to see it, but I just, I was busy, tied up. I couldn't do it. They would have been, it would have been heaven if I took them in that thing. Right. They are, uh, they love it. And it's hilarious. Speaking of the beach yesterday, we're, we're pulling up, we pull up to the beach,

we're walking out and I hear some music playing. I know it was. And my daughter, my 13-year-old immediately goes, oh, K-pop Demon Hunters playing the thing. And she just knew it, like, immediately. And they knew the songs. And it's, it is. It's just a massive, it's a massive hit.

went over really, really well. Kids are losing their minds about it. It's also losing their minds about it. It's really, it is a, it's a big hit. I think if this had hit, if this had done 30 to 40 million, then at that point Netflix is more are morons for not having put it out. But 18 is about what you'd expect. Because it became such a big hit on Netflix.

And it appealed to the young adult crowd, to the tween crowd, and they were showing up, along with adults, of course. I know there are a lot of adults on my feed who love this film, who were there singing, along and doing all of that. But that's the magic trick, John. Put it out, you know. That's the magic trick when it comes to animation.

It's like it's always going to be targeted towards the family, not animation in general, but like the family, family movies and things of this nature, are we going to be targeted towards kids? But the question is, can you make it enjoyable for everyone? And that's how you, that's how you make your money. Yeah. Right? Because like this movie is obviously targeted for, I think, like probably in the tweens.

Yeah, 100%. But it, but it's. also able to capture like my seven year watch it's seven you're watching no problem and then i watched it up by myself and tina and i love that that was really smart but it was really well put together i watched it um so that's how you make money when it comes to animation in the family aspect like something like arcane arcane's not going to transfer over to um to you know uh young you really young kids because it's it's for that one is yeah really made for late teens adults yeah um it's it's it's it's it's it's our i mean that's a and so i don't know uh that that you couldn't put in the theater

because it's also the freaking um like a series but yeah i'd love to see an arcane movie in the theater in the theories i love that do you watch it yet you haven't seen it oh i still haven't seen arcane no i got to put that i mean i'm i'm catching dude there's so much i'm catching up so much all the time it's so frustrating i'm trying to think now because i'm i'm i've been I've been doing this thing, as I said, like I'll find at least an hour or two. Yeah. At night, when everyone else is going upstairs now,

we're in a new place. And I, and I have, and I'm like, okay, catching up on things. Right. Cut up on that.

I don't know if I'm going to go, should I go to my, I'm either going to go to mob land next, or I'm going to go to fall out because the new season's coming out. So I might do, fall out. Oh, you got those, you got these screeners early?

No, no, I'm not, of season one oh i would go well if you're in the tulsa king place go right into mob land that's what i was thinking but i also but i also want to see i think i might want to do some reactions so so i might i might do that so i don't know i don't know i don't fall out or or i'm not sure yet i don't know that's what people don't understand chris is that we we have to watch up and then we get those screeners early like i've spent the last week and a half watching all of the new season of slow horses and oh yeah all of task the new

WBC. Oh, how it's past is great. I think I'm still under embargo, but I'll say this. Oh, my God. That's what I'll say. Oh, my God. So, but yeah. So to me, I'm, I'm like caught up on those. So to swing back to this other stuff, that's, it's a little more difficult. Plus, I'm watching the Cowboys dock on Netflix, which, you know, I hate the Cowboys, but it's a passively doc. So. Well, it's so funny. So, and so Task is the HBO Max show, right? As my, as my seven-year-old now says, Hubeo Max. When I said I remember what program it was she goes, yeah, it's on Hubeau Max. And I go, I don't know what? It's on what? Just Hubeo Max.

I was like, what's? I go, HBO Max? And she's like, but she was calling it Hubeau Max. It was the best. I love that. I love this so much. Anyway, so I think that the other stuff at the box office, you look at

Superman Crossing 600. That's a, that's a win for Warner Brothers? Yeah, I think it's a win. It's not a big win, but it's certainly a win. It's a big win when we get, before we get to our next story, when you look at how many movies really, because it's not, because this is

another part of the conversation that we can have once we talk about the $400 billion mark, whatever. $4 billion, not $400, $4 billion. It's, you know, 400 would be okay. Everybody would be all right. It's $400 billion. Right.

$4 billion. But when it comes to that, it's like, It's not, we've already made the case a thousand times over that you look at Lilo and Stitch, how to train your dragon, those movies, you target them towards kids, you got a good shot at doing it. But the only one that did it was Lilo and Stitch. Right. It's the only one as far as domestic movies, as far as movies made here by the studios.

Because I think there's one that oversees it that crushed. But so is it just superhero movies that are. taking a hitter? Is it movies in general? It's not easy to do a billion dollars anymore. I think it's movies in general. I mean, you look at Americana and Eden to back-to-back Sydney-Sweeney films and they've tanked at the box office. Ron Howard used to be

at least the older people would show up to run Howard movies. That was a $50 million movie. It made $1 million over the weekend. And then last week, Americana didn't even break a million dollars. I didn't even run Howard out of movie coming out. There you go. There you go. Like Eddington a few weeks ago.

Well, and that's so I think what you have as a general and this is the month of apathy august and stuff so you're going to get these films that are going to dump and not do well but i think overall i there's i think moviegoers are being more selective than ever about the stuff they go see because the demands on their time as we just mentioned at home all the streaming services all the new content everything that's a battle constantly well especially if you can get a movie look we just we just talked about k-pop demon hunters right if you can find a movie of that quality that comes out and you can watch on streaming and then

top sat and you can see it in the theater. It's like, but there's these movies. Like the, the thing is, because it was, K-pop Demon Hunters was an example of a movie that all of those people who saw that, most of them, who saw that in the theater, saw the movie already. And they wanted to go and they wanted to sing along and they wanted to have fun with it. They already knew what they, it was essentially they were going to a concert. They knew the songs.

They knew what they were going to get. They're paying for the money. They know they're not going to be disappointed. It is a crapshoot these days to spend that kind of money. to deal with horrendous behavior at theaters. You go in there and you're like, okay, I'm going to take my kids and my wife or my husband or whatever. We're going to go see a movie and I'm going to spend.

I'm going to cross my fingers. Let's say that the whole trip cost me $130 for everything that we're going to get. Across my fingers and we all had a good time. It's supposed to walk and I going, what a piece of shit. That is that you're going, oh, And you take a hit in the wallet. Everyone's like, ooh, that was terrible. I was like, who wants to do that?

Yeah, it's too expensive. And you might as well just stay home because you're right. I mean, I don't know how many times over the last few months that I've taken a chance, even to go to a kind of almost empty theater and there's still people talking. There's an old man snoring through half the fucking movie. I'm sorry. You know, yeah, maybe. But I just go crazy with that kind of stuff.

So people like, oh, no, it's the, you know, should people be going? It's not the theater going experience. people don't respect it anymore and they go in and they just they shit on it and they don't care if it affects other people and i i just it drives me nuts there's no respect for that no it is and say and if it was if it was like if it costs if it costs like yeah just to go to the movies like whatever but it doesn't um anyway we'll get into the overall the four billion dollar thing in just a minute there too but put your thoughts in the box office what do you think about what we're seeing in right now. What do you think about this particular thing? We even get into Fantastic Four.

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So I have, you know, reaction with Ming dropped today. The return to the king drops with myself and Sam. tomorrow. Also doing a, are you going to see caught stealing tomorrow? Uh, maybe. Well,

really? Yeah. I'm hearing mixed reviews. Okay. Well, I'm going to go see that tomorrow. I'm going to do an out of the theater reaction for that one. Probably doing a non-spoiler for it on Wednesday.

Uh, I, I, my fingers across that Thursday, we're going to release, is I tell you that Steph has never seen back to the future. Did you know? Yeah,

you told me that last week. What a shock. Shocker. So we're going to, we're going to do the reaction to that. And hopefully she can, um, we'll have that up on maybe Thursday if not the next week and then Friday I think I'm just gonna I'm gonna I've been trying to get Sam away from the comic book movies because we've been in an MCU for so long yeah like we're in middle of Lord of Rings we jumped to Superman and I'm like you know what I was gonna do suicide with her but I think I think I'm just gonna go directly into the Nolan movies now maybe you know actually she's never seen usual suspect so I might do that one first that's a good choice I might do that one first um so we're busy here John we got a lot of stuff going on it sounds like yeah we've been talking about maybe we've been talking about maybe

be coming together on something. So we'll see. Yeah, we got to figure that out too. And I think when it comes to maybe like some of the screeners, like it, but Peacemaker at this point, I think we missed the boat on. We should have done it earlier, but like, but we will find something. You, we get screeners for these things early. If there's maybe fallout, we fallout could be one.

Oh, I like that. Yeah. Yeah, I catch up. But, you know, I spoke about Tulsa King. Yeah. Did you like season two? I like season two. Yeah.

I mean, Grillo coming in. Yeah. More with, uh, what was the guy? I always forget his name. The guy with the blue eyes was the evil dude, the white guy. I forget his name. Everybody on the show.

Yeah. Christopher McChry. Is it Christopher? No, that's, that's, uh, who's he playing in the show? It plays the, his main antagonist. The guy is beating up his oil. Oh, oh, Neil, uh, he was gonna. He is great in Tulsaacne.

Yes, he is. He is great because he, I was like, I was thinking he was going to play like a, you know, just like the kind of stereotypical tycoon. He kind of does. at certain points but then he was killing me like so many times like the character shows no fear on so many different times and he's a gun pulled out at one point he's like the fuck yourself it's so good so many different times like it was i loved his character loved his character i really really enjoyed season two the end of season two threw me through me for a loop a couple different things that happen there's a scene

that happens with Grillo and Stallone in the bar very end that I was like, whoa, I didn't see that one coming that way, that way. And then the ending, which is kind of so I'm digging, I'm digging it so for. We'll see. Anyway, so

let's get back into that box office conversation, you know, and the one thing that we could do is we can start with, where are we at on the superchats? Where are we at? Oh, sorry. Okay, good call. John, I like, I like your attitude. Yeah. So you need to start the week off, as you always do.

Usually give a good, a good performance. Right now, we're at 16. 16. We're at 30, though. 33, only 33 minutes. So we'll see. Last week, you were correct. The World Girls did indeed win. No surprise. No surprise. Bring them together. They're amazing when they're together. Yeah, they should. But tomorrow, it's Mike and Roxy again, so we'll see how that work.

We'll see how that's going to work. So Wednesday, Chris Carr is back. Thursday is Jeff. Friday is Capes. Caps did the show without me on Friday because I was shooting. I mean, I was shooting all day on Friday. I did three hours and 40 minutes on Return to the King. And then two hours and 30 minutes on F1. So my whole day was like,

um, take a out. Hey, next time they're alone, they should bring me on to be a counterpoint for all their, all their love of everything comic book, you know, it's nice.

Maybe so. Maybe a little battle on there. I mean, it's a little fun. All right, let's get to this story because this is the story. I mentioned earlier, and I'll bring this up too, but comic book movies, we thought, there was conversations on this channel. I never thought it, and I don't think John there, but I could be wrong. I never thought Superman would hit a billion.

I never thought Fantastic Four would hit a billion, but there were a lot of people who did. And a lot of people who were hoping that it did, they didn't. And there are other movies that didn't. I mean, even Jurassic World, which I think now crossed like 800 million. That didn't even hit a billion. And all of those movies have hit a billion, the Jurassic Worlds, that is.

So this summer box office season, it's not going to hit $4 billion. While exhibitors were quite confident going into the summer, hard numbers are coming in that are potentially giving them pause. TomSko reports that overall domestic box office revenues from May 1st to August 24th have reached $3.53 billion. It means that once the final numbers are in during the Labor Day holiday box office next weekend, overall ticket sales are going to fall well short of $4 billion.

That watermark has only been achieved once since the pandemic. 2023, the year of Barbenheimer. Disney's Lilo and Stitch is the highest grossing film of the summer, with $421 million in North America and $1.3 billion globally. The only field to pass the $1 billion worldwide mark. Other strong performers have been Jurassic World Rebirth, how to train your dragon, Superman F1, and smaller successes like weapons and materialists.

On the flip side, both Thunderbolts and the Fantastic Four First Steps are being seen as underperformers, I didn't realize that Megan was a 2.0 was a summer movie that was a dud while mission impossible final reckoned grossed well its enormous 400 million at the budget makes it a financial loser hopes now turn to the early fall slate with titles like tron aries moral combat two conjuring last right and one battle after another to boost numbers ahead of expected late year juggernauts like wicked for good and zootopia two what about what about avatar was left off that list yeah how those those

Avatar is going to piss on both of those movies. I just watched Utopia 1 again with my little one. She didn't remember it. So we just watched such a great movie, first one. Such a great movie. So we will be watching the second one, obviously, when that comes out. And I just found Sam hasn't seen the first one. So maybe we'll do a watch with that one.

Either way, we have some big numbers in there. I mean, didn't mention Minecraft because Minecraft was like April or something or March. Minecraft was another way that almost made a billion dollars. that was not a billion. So you really only have, the only ones that came close are how to train your dragon and Jurassic World. Everybody else was not even reach. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Different world. Yeah, it's a different time, different world. I think we're in the transition place right now about what the public wants to see, what it doesn't want to see. And it took, and when you mentioned the Barbenheimer in that article, like, that's the kind of event it took for it to make $4 billion in the summer. So a lot of people have been saying that 800 million is the new billion and all of that. So that may be true.

And that may be where we're at now as a society. And if I was a theater, I'd be an owner. I'd be super scared about that. If I was a studio, I'd be a little scared about that as well. But yeah, people are going less and less to the movies. COVID kind of condition people as a lot of us, including me, it's speculated for years that like people are just going to get used to having the stuff at home. As the theatrical windows get smaller and smaller, people are going to go, people are going to

just you know what skip it you know because there's not that many films that people it's the next day you got to talk about it with that's that's the point that's the point and i think it used to be the movies used to be it used to be it used to be like what do you want to do tonight we go the movies see what i don't know what's playing that used to be it that's not the case anymore now it's now it's now it's get me excited and i'll go yes it used to be like i just want to go to the movies now it's because and people also forget even in 19 99 or 2005. TVs were shit.

Yeah. They were shit. And like, you're looking at now, TVs are awesome now. And the sound systems are awesome now. And like the, and the amount of stuff and the quality and,

and things that you can do. And plus, we're not even talking about Netflix or that. I just watched three episodes of this thing called Amazing Digital Circus, right? And it's a, it's a YouTube produced animated show.

And it's got like, I think one of the episodes, John has like maybe even more than this, but like 230 million views, right? Wow. Yeah. And it's like, it's a massive,

massive hit. My point is that there's so much to watch now. Back in the day, and even 25 years ago, it was movies or you watch something on TV. You couldn't stream it. Or you don't go to the movies or you don't, you read a book.

You know, but now it's like, oh, I can, I can spend a, now we're on the shitter and look at Instagram videos you know I can do this it's a there's this this it's Wally TikTok yeah yeah Twitter as you said Instagram the reels there's all kinds of stuff and you see studios are now creating programs to invest and explore and discover a YouTube talent that they can support to make programming on YouTube that they sponsor and

then get a cut of the profits of right it's amazing like the other day I know this isn't movie related but one of the soccer or football YouTube channels that I watch, Mark Goldbridge, he just signed a deal with the German league, the top league, to screen 20 of their games on his YouTube channel. That's insane. And so you see that the power of YouTube, if you can corral the power of YouTube, increases and grows.

And these are the places that you can screen stuff and show stuff. And you're right to mention the original stuff that's happening on YouTube. There's quite a lot of series. I mean, the new thing happening now that has blown up in Asia and is starting to make its way here into the, United States and North America is these like two to three minute melodramatic soap opera type shows produced professionally and they're only two to three minutes the episodes and they're getting millions of views from people because that's the intention span now what can you tell me in three

minutes I could be in and out you know and being grossed it's one of the things that we're trying for with the show that we're working on right now right it's like because that's why I have told the audience we funded ourselves we fund this thing ourselves with you know we get this thing to where the audience will say like, hey, you don't care if the studio is going to support it. We are. We're going to get it made. And guess what? Then the studio is going to come on and go, oh, now we want to be a part of it because now it's a

thing and we can see it. We didn't believe in you beforehand. And the audience and myself and everybody else can go like that and say, yeah, sure, just give us the money and distribute it. Great. That's what a lot of people have the opportunity to do that you couldn't do 20 years ago. Yeah. You certainly could.

Yeah. So anyway, there's a lot of different reasons why things have changed in general. Um, we'll see next year where you've got the movies that are coming out. I guess Spider-Man's got a good shot to make a bill. Um, I'm trying to do the animated movies that are coming out next year. Oh. And I always, I always bet on the animated movies, the family movies to, during the summertime. You get the kids in the theater and you have accomplished it.

So, um, I think that you've got Doomsday. Yeah. Spider-Man, I think of 2026, who are the contenders? 28 years later, maybe, that might be. Oh, for a billion? Oh, for a billion, you're talking. You remember a billion. But you meant being successful. A billion.

Who's got a couple? There's always the bets, and there's only one for Mario world? Wouldn't you say that's a possibility? Is that a Super Mario sequel coming out? Yeah, April for 2020. Yeah, it's got a shot. Yeah. I think I like the Jackson movie has a legitimate shot.

I'm making a billion dollars. I don't know. I know you don't believe me. I think so. I don't know with the controversy of them shaving the ending off now or whatever they're doing. Toy Story 5 for sure. Awesome. Also has a shot.

But I mean, look, let's bring it up and we'll see if there's anything in general. Does you have a shot? The Odyssey? Does that have with the Nolan film? Yes. The last one made a billion? Absolutely. Absolutely it does. Absolutely has a shot.

All right. All right, let's see. We'll do this right here. This is the movie really- important security message. Hey. Your computer has been locked up. Oh, no.

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Wrong number. Wrong number. Wrong number. Let's try the skill. Let's see the stupid thing does it again. Now, I don't want to do that again. There again. That's stupid. It's got 2026. All right, down, here we go, January.

Nothing in January that is going to hit at all. Anything in February here, anything we see? Look, there's an untitled Marvel movie. I don't know what the entitled Marvel movie is there, but. Scream 7, no. The dogs aren't a ton of Water Brothers show and whatever that is. And again, there's things in here that I wouldn't have said that Minecraft was going to be close. So April 3rd, yes, Super Mario World.

That one has a very good shot. Devil Wars Prada 2. No, I think it'll do well. Mandalorian and Grogu, if it was 10 years ago, maybe, but no way. Yeah, Master's Universe, no. Toy Story 5, yes, Supergirl, no. Minions 3, again, if it was, I would have said yes a while ago, but despicable me, the last one didn't do as well.

Um, Moana, Wana, live action? Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. The Odyssey, yes. Spider-Man brand new day.

Yes. Yeah, I have people saying that it might make 1.5. I'm like, I don't know. No Spider-Man film, I think only the last one made a billion. No, no way home did. No way home did pretty. Yeah. It's something ridiculous.

What did that movie? I think it was 1.4 or something? Let's say, let's see. No way home. No way home. May it. 1.9. Almost $2 billion.

$2 million. So. That's insane. So we'll see how that's going to work in general. Yeah. So either way, Paw Patrol. Paw Patrol do it. I'll go to say Paw Patrol.

for the remainder of this year avatar will be the next one and um after the hunt because i'll see it i'll see it enough oh my god all right let's what do you guys think overall in general what do you think put your thoughts in there let us know four point or not even four point three point something a bad good would say you put your thoughts in there let us know um anything else Yeah, Terry McLaurant signed the deal. He's staying to be the Washington Commander's wide receiver. That's right.

Thank God. Anyway, go ahead. Thank God. I'm trying to think there's any. There's another thing that I wanted to contribute. Like you said, we're going to hit enough of these stories about Marvel and D.C. This week. We're going to take a break from you this week.

Or this today anyway. So there's some other new news and things I wanted to talk. This story just broke. Oh, not broke, but it is to recap. And that some quick news from dark horizons on both dynamite dirty scream seven predator. Okay, House of Dynamite. The third and fourth still have been released for Catherine Bigelow's House of Dynamite with the film hitting slick. Cinemas on October 10th ahead of a Netflix release on October 24th.

Bigelow's film dramatizes the White House's response real time to incoming ballistic missiles aimed at the United States. Idris Elba Rebecca Ferguson, Gradually, what a cast, Anthony Ramos, Tracy Letts, Jason Clark. Well, of course you're going to get this kind of cast with Catherine Bigelow. And I thought it was at Karen Allen. I got excited there first of a. Predator Badlands. Marvel Comics has announced that the upcoming Predator Badlands films will get a tie-in prequel comic, which release on November 12th.

Ethan Sachs wrote and Elvin Ching illustrated the comic with director Dan Trachiburz set to write the forward. Sacks as care was taken to make sure this prequel story ties into the film. And the one shot, a young Yutuzer warrior is given a simply simple task by his father, retrieve a piece of technology from Derrick spaceship that crashed years ago. Inside, however, an ancient and deadly threat lies in weight. Scream 7. The seventh scream film continues to recruit more talent from the original films with the composer Marco Beltrami set to return to the franchise to do the film score.

With his return, along with Will come some of his signature pieces from the franchise, including Sidney's Lemon. The movie itself opens on February 27. I do think, though, John, that... Yeah. Screen 7 is going to do very well. Okay. You don't think it's going to do well?

I have my doubts. I don't know if that franchise is maybe a little long in the tooth. I don't disagree with that, but I still do they know. But those will keep it the cost down. I can't imagine they're spending on. That's what I'm saying. Those movies don't cost enough to really be. That's my point.

I make all this stuff is that if you, if you spend, however much you're going to spend on Screen 7, all you have to do is get your core audience into the theater. Yes. When you spend more than that, then you have to get the core audience and create new people who love it

and then find other people as well who might just want to go see it. That's when you're like the mission impossible where you're going to get the core, the core and everybody else too. It didn't spread past. You spent way too much money on that movie, 400 million and it's a loss.

That's heartbreaking. This movie, you're going to get everybody who wants to see Scream and it'll do fine. So I think it's actually going to do well. I don't think that the controversies and all that stuff will mean anything to the general audience whatsoever.

No, no. No. They want to enjoy the film. Yeah, but they don't even know about it. Yeah, the previous two films, $24 million for Scream from 2022. How much was the last one? Sorry.

The last one, Scream 6, they spent $33 million on the budget. How much to make? Oh, I don't know. 33 to make the last one. And in 2022, during the pandemic, I'm curious what it made. It made, where's the box? $100,000, $8 million, I think.

In the pandemic. Yeah. In the pandemic, in 2022, 169. I was looking at the domestic. 160. And it costs 33 to make. This movie is going to make money. Yeah.

And with Neff Campbell. And Neff Campbell was even in the last one. Yeah. It'll be like freakier Friday where like what it's doing right now. There's enough nostalgia. Exactly. Yeah. The people who wanted to.

see that movie, saw that movie, and they, they targeted their audience and they did it. That's, that's how you do it. Um, and then what else is coming, the other stuff? Oh, the Catherine Bigelow movie. Yeah. What is that movie? I mean, obviously, yeah, yeah, I mean, from what they say. I mean, it's, it's, it, but this is, she usually does kind of, um, real stories, right? Yeah. This is, this is, this is the, one of the, one of those, this is one of those things. Yeah, I like it, but I think there's a reason she went to Netflix. Like, you know, I don't know if audiences were going to come out and see this movie in the theater. So she's getting a two-week window and then boom, it's right on Netflix to watch.

So that's going to be fun to see. I like the stills that have been released so far. As you said, it's a very strong cast. People like to work with her and want to work with her because she's a legend. So we'll see. I hope it's good. But I mean, coming out at this time right now when everything's going on in the world, I don't know how much of this is people

that want to go to the movie theater to see this kind of movie. No, but that's the same conversation we had before, but there's also, but now you have filmmakers who are also understanding that. And they're like, I'm going to go to Netflix. I'm going to go to Prime. I'm going to go Apple. I'm going to go make movies there. Because that's where I can, and and more people will probably see it.

That's the difference. When Snyder says things like, what do you care about the budgets? It doesn't affect you. I always disagree with it. I think it's the silliest thing. but you can see where the where the directors go I don't care but if I mean like me $200 million to make this movie on Apple I don't care it's fine I'm thousands of people thousands of thousands of thousands of people are going to watch this

more so than they would if I put it in you know a bunch of theaters I'll be fighting with theater distribution to get it so makes sense for filmmakers to go that route well then you get the occasional hit right like look at we didn't even mention this in the box office but F1 crossed 600 million dollars who who had f1 doing as well as superman right better than fantastic four right and even coming close i know 200 million in real time not that close but still the fact that it's even in the ballpark of Jurassic world shocking utterly shocking but it shows you that if you can hit this market like this and top gun maverick if you can hit this market there is money there for you to be made

if you hit this market right so i think that's a good i'm gonna get the audience mad at me the reason why f1 what did better than those movies yeah it was a bet it was what it was a bet better oh it was a better oh oh oh it's a better movie i had way more fun and i felt like i i mean superman and fantastic four i feel like i've seen those movies over the last 13 years yeah i hear what you're saying so many different times f1 is not one of these super original movies no um old but young guy things yeah it's it felt like it felt like it felt like an old old school like movie that I don't get that kind of feeling anymore. As a reason why how many times have we seen F1 movies? Like it's not that many. Right, right. Right. But F1.

Yeah. Yeah. It was why I told you. I watched it. I watched it with my friend. We watched it. I just, I really dug watching it again.

I liked it just as much. I just can't. I don't know. I'm so my, my top three right now is, is it, they replace each other all the time. I've got F1 weapons and sinners in there.

And they keep fighting. for the, I don't know where I'm going to go. By the time I make my list, I don't know where I'm going to land on it. Well, we still got a whole four more months. I know, there's tons of other things. I'm just saying that, like, you know, for where that goes. I think you're right on those, on those three. I think I have the same top three.

Just not in the same order, but certainly. Oh, did you want to, we talked to, I don't know, we talked about weapons. Did we talk about weapons? I love weapons. Yeah, I really. You said the ending was okay for you, right? Oh, I like that. I like, no, I like the ending.

Some people have had issues with the ending. I enjoyed the ending. I was so satisfied. I was cheering them on. I had such a big grin on my face by the ending. I love that movie. Yeah. Love that movie.

And naked gun is in my top 10 right now also. That's the one I didn't like. You didn't like that one? I think naked guns is in my top 10. First 30 minutes, loved it. And then the joke started to peter out. It wasn't as funny and they were forcing. And so for me, it didn't 100%.

Plus, I'm not, you know, I know, I know everyone, I know it's cool now, love Pam Anderson, but I'm not the biggest fan of her. Okay. Well, I think one of the, one of the, like, that movie could get bumped out, but right now it's in there. And I had so much fun watching it. Where's more of the worlds for you? Yes, Q. I still haven't seen it.

Did you see it? We should do a reaction to that shitty movie. I always get nervous about that, though, right? Like, I wanted to. Yeah. I want to, but I feel like, um, no one would care now because it's out of the conversation. I would feel like late on these things. right.

Yeah. But either one. All right. Where's K-pop? Where's K-pop and demon hunters in your list? Is it in the top of, I don't know if it's in my top ten. Okay.

All right. I don't know. It's really good. I don't know if it is. You know, that's why I want to wait because for me, I get into it. And then maybe it's just because of getting older and stuff.

A lot of the movies that come out from September until December are usually in my list. Yeah. Those are usually in my list because those are ones that I really respond to, more like character-driven, you know, like performances and like the dramas and stuff. That's that's more so where those usually hit the top for me. But we'll see. I still have two of my most anticipated or still haven't come out yet, which is again,

which is Avatar and After the Hunt, those two movies I'm very curious about. Tron Aries, I still haven't watched a trailer for. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Zootopia 2. I'm actually really looking forward to. So, yeah. Yeah.

Anyway, what's up, Joe? There's a lot of good stuff. Yeah. A lot of good stuff. So we'll see what else. I mean, there's tons of stuff going on. There's probably, I guarantee you. This one, mark this down.

I guarantee you, there's a movie that is coming out in that time period that I haven't even talked about once or maybe I did in passing. And it probably will be in my top 10 list because I didn't realize, you know, like one of those, there's always that movie that starts. to get the big buzz around the end of it. You know what I mean? Who knows caught stealing could be it? It could be, I don't know.

We'll have to see. Yeah. All right. Guys, put your thoughts in there. What say you about all this stuff we discussed here today? Put your thoughts in there. We want to know. All right.

John, let me ask you before we get into questions. Right now, you get 21 questions. 21. We'll see. Can you get to 100 today? I don't know. Avengers Doom. We should talk about that more.

Come on. Oh, I know. Well, you didn't. Let's talk about your channel. What's going on? Is it fully transferred over it? Is it John Roker? It's now the John Roka channel fully.

And it is happening there on your YouTube's people. Head on over there. YouTube.com slash John Roka says just did a new episode of the truth yesterday. Went in on all the Avengers Doomsday stuff, which I had more updates on, including some of the behind the scenes drama with RDJ and clarifying the RDJ and Ryan Reynolds situation. I talked more about that on the on the show and also got into all the other news that's going on the DC and Star Wars.

Star Wars visions. Katie Sackoff's comments. I thought were really interesting. We talked about that on the show. But we've also got a pause. Either today, we're either going to do gig buddies or Hot Mike today. I've got to figure that out. And then we got spill the tequila tomorrow.

We got Jedi Way probably happening this week at some point. And then, of course, more geek buddies and hot mic there on the channel as well. More stuff with me reactions-wise. We got a new, we had some trailers coming out. out the next few days apparently what we got looking forward to it yeah what's coming out oh i think the the katherine bigelow one might be coming out this week so who appears to see when it comes that's one so that's what i've been trying to do more of right like i i i mentioned uh the the the new paul thomas anderson movie i did a reaction to i did the after the hunt reaction they both did

dog show like i knew they would but i but i wanted to bring more attention to those movies so i'll do it for because katherine that that that that reaction won't do very well but i'll but i'll i think i might actually do it because i just reading that cast yeah yeah should have reacted a good boy had i known that was going to take off like a wildfire gangbusters i would have reacted that trailer what was it which one and now it's getting a wide release the trailer got watched so i'm what the hell that is um all right all right so let's start 22 can we get john to 100 can he he's got to go up against Mike and Roxy tomorrow seems to be like this greatest competitors on those Tuesday

going back and forth. I'm taking on two people, just so we're clear people. I can't imagine. Hey, what are you going to do? Two on one. Yeah, what are you going to do? I was one. Well, the way of those two were on the show a couple weeks ago,

you're surprised you'd win by 300. Let's, oh, two questions I have for you, as you were talking in your, in your, you're doing your much. Yeah. Question one, do you have any idea or hear anything about when this next casting chair thing from Marvel is going to happen again? No, I don't know when that's going to happen. But what I've heard from a couple of the sources that I have is that this idea that they, you know, everyone's done shooting and they're only going to come back for reshoots. The reason they're coming back is not just for reshoots is they're still writing some of these scenes.

So, you know, Daniel R.PK reported that as well. And so, you know, it's the truth. And so their idea of chairs and all that, I think they need to still write the scenes first and lock down the deal still before they figure out who else they're going to announce that is going to be in the movie. And I wonder if they're going to be people

from Spider-Man Brand New Day who've been announced like Sadie Sink and others to be like Tramyl Tillman, depending on what character he plays, is he going to show up? So there's still stuff to be announced, but I don't know yet what that's all about. And what was the, and the other thing you said was that,

So you, because when you were, the funny thing, I don't know how this works yet on TikTok or tiki talks. All right, Instagram. They, they haven't figured this portion out because then on YouTube, if you post somebody else's video or until you get a copyright strike, you know, stuff. And TikTok, you can just take people's videos and put them wherever. Someone took our conversation about you talking about the drama backstage and like a million views or whatever it did. I'm like, didn't tag us at all. Didn't tag us, didn't do anything. Just stole it and it.

It's okay. But either way, it got a lot of traction in that particular, that particular clip. Yeah. So on your show, did you, because you just mentioned Ryan Reynolds and Downey? Is that, did that come out after our thing? Is that someone else? Yeah. People, people fabricated that, that it was between those two guys.

And it caught like wildfire because clearly people have agendas about R.D.J. and Ryan Reynolds. And look, I certainly am not a big Ryan Reynolds guy right now because if everything's going on with Baldoni and Lively. But like, I said on the show yesterday, if it had been him, trust me, I wouldn't have had a problem. out in his name out there. But it wasn't R.D.J. And it wasn't Ryan Reynolds. But people took it and tried to say that I was saying that. And I was, what the fuck? So, yeah, no. I kind of remember you

saying that on, I think, I think I remember you saying, no, saying that it wasn't on the show. And someone brought up in the chat. So yeah, yeah. It just like, the headline game is a funny thing. All right. There is R.D.J. Shade going on

behind the scenes, but it's not with Ryan. It's not that. Okay. All right. Hunter Vant. Hey, the MCU's acquisition of, from El Tillman, I hope they utilize him well. But they have a pass. Who do you guys think is the most wasted actor in the MCU? My vote is for Walton Goggins and Antman. That's a great call.

Walton Goggins was, and I mean, you'd have to go back and look at so many different actors that were in it. I mean, I don't know. Most wasted? I mean, oh, what's his face? The villain in Thor? Yeah, Christian. Christian Bale. Oh, bail also, yes.

Oh, forget. That's my vote. That's what I meant to say. Yeah. Yeah, or even Benicio, right? He was only had a two or three scenes. But he was good, but he was good as the collector, though. He had an impact.

Yeah. I don't think he was wasted. But I think is another one they wasted. Hemdall. Hemdoll had a way bigger part. Really? I just think he should have been a bigger part. The fact that he was kind of an also-ran in the Thor franchise,

when he's arguably the best actor in the Thor franchise, the side of Anthony Hopkins, I think was a shame. So, yeah. It's a good question. Let's see. Boy, Grillo. What's that? Do you think Grillo was not used well in the MCU or wasted?

Not wasted, but no, I don't think more so of, like, yeah, to be able to use some, like, that kind of talent. I would, I would say Christian Bale, because of the movie that he was in and the performance he put in that was great. Nathan Drake, Coney Island Beach area is a little scary. See, that's the thing is that I back in the day, Coney Island was like the spot to go when you're in the 50s, in the 60s.

And then it turned into, yeah, the scary thing. And then I heard it was decent again. I don't know. I haven't been back and I probably won't. Yeah, years ago,

I went to Coney Island because I'd heard how great Coney Island was, but I went in like the fall. And when I got there off the train stop, I walked around, it was like, there was nobody there. None of the rides were working. None of the shops were open.

And I'm like, what the hell is going on? So it was weird. Right. Yeah, I haven't, I haven't been there. I don't think ever.

Ralph! No, please don't watch Suicide Squad and Peacemaker with Sam. We were doing so good. Finally, being done with the MCU, I have comic book fatigue. I think you were going to be okay.

I don't think we're going to wind up doing. I think I'm going to keep her into regular movies right now outside of the comic book. Julius Wyatt. I am glad Terry is finally signed. He's earned it. I'm right. 26. Terry gets 96 mil over three years,

says go pal. Yeah. Good money. Did we skip any? I mean, I just talked about Terry like 10 minutes ago. No. Go pal. You know what? I'm going to look. I'll read that one.

Now football team ought to pay that man months ago, Go Pal says. It's all negotiations. Yeah, it takes it takes it. You know what? I'm going to double check here. And just to see what the first one is that we started with just in case we did miss. I don't know why sometimes it does this, but it hasn't done it in a while. So I've been, but as soon as soon as I'd let my guard down, John.

that's when again. Yeah. Yeah, let's see. Let's see if it's first one. No, first one was okay. Okay. Okay. So that was Go pal. Thank you. Go pal. 26 thus far. Can we get John to 100 to put him in contention for the week? Ralph. Oscar winner DeCaprio, two-time Oscar winner

Sean Penn, Oscar winner Benisio de Tore working with multiple Oscar nominated director One Battle Can't Wait. I'm super pumped to that movie. I loved that trailer. Did you like that trailer? I did. I like that trailer a lot. And the second one, even more so. So I'm, I'm like really dialed into this one.

I hope it's good. There have been mixed kind of reactions to it. Who've seen it at the festivals, but I hope it's good because it's BTA, man, you know. I hope. Ralph,

excited to see Sean Penn return. Milk, Mystic River, Carlito's Way. He was so good in Carlito's Way. Casually his award, Dead Man Walking, 21 grand,

Spicoli, dude is a world-class actor. He really is. I agree. Double Oscar winner. Yeah, what was that movie that I saw him in recently,

where he was the actor, but he was, what the hell was it? Was it a Paul Thomas Center? Was he in licorice pizza? Oh, is he in liquorish pizza? No, what was he in? He was in something recently that I watched. Yeah. And it, oh my God, what the hell was it?

Where he was the actor and like they're running around on a beach or, what hell was that? It was, it was, Dadio, Gonzo Girl, Asphalt City. He has licorice pizza. and licorice pizza. Maybe that. Was it liquorish pizza? Maybe it was. He was, what the hell was it?

I, I can't, I picture the damn scene in my head. What's asphalt city? What's that? Jack Holden. Is this liquor's pizza? Isn't that the one where, yeah, he's, and he's the actor, right? Yeah, I think so.

Yeah, he's the actor and he like, and she winds up. Oh, that's right. Yes. Because he's sitting on her or whatever, yeah, on the golf court, the night. Yes. It's liquor's pizza, right? I like that movie a lot better than you did. Yeah.

Yeah, well, I don't, I don't support underage. Dylan Neal. Hey guys, I just watched Starship Troopers, 1997. The acting isn't the best. What an overlooked class. I missed touchstone pictures, man. You know, I got to put that on the list, Starship.

Are you think Casper Van Diem? The acting is not the best? What? I'm putting it. I have to put Starship Troopers on, and Robocop. I really hope, I don't think Steph's ever seen Robocop. Oh, man.

That's a great one. That's a great one. Carlton Rudder. Hey, London calling. What's up, Carlton? Special shout out to John and Steve, and their continued excellent breakdown of Jaws. Also called Life of Chuck.

Loved it. Yeah, I didn't see Life of Chuck. Did you see that one? No, I heard bad things, so I didn't go. I'm more selective now, man. If a lot of my friends don't like it, I don't go. All right. Fair.

Ralph. After making good times and uncut gems, the brothers have split. I guess we'll see what Saffty brothers more talented. Benny directing Smashing Machine and Josh directing Marty Supreme both A24. Which one's Marty Supreme? That's the one with Timothy Shalame where he's the ping pong champion. Oh, I didn't see that.

Paltrow. You haven't seen the trailer? No, it's pretty good. Yeah, the trail looks excellent. It's like an 80 sports movie trailer, but everyone is saying like this is a bait and switch. That movie isn't like that. They're just trying to get you into the theater. Did you see the trailer, by the way?

I don't remember the name of it. I want to bring it up because my so remember the great David Gambino who was essentially like he was my boss at Silver and he's he's he's he's like my mentor really he's like he's like one of the greatest people in my in my life he's like a big big brother to me but his lovely wife um Lori Gambino just wrote a movie uh that is um coming out it's called anniversary did you see the trailer for that have not no Kyle Chandler Dylan Sherman, Diane Lane.

Jeff was telling me about this one. Right on. So that's, so Lori wrote that. Oh, and so it was, that was our original script. So I'm excited to see how that one is,

too, because they've been, they've been working on that one really, really hard. You know, who else needs to get back together is the Cohen brothers, because this,

this driveaway dolls and now Honey Don't is just getting destroyed at the bottom. Everyone told me that, uh, what's her face is the new thing. is the next big thing.

You know, now we're seeing the real truth that these people can't necessarily put butts and seats. What's your face, though, from... Oh, Margaret Crowley. I wasn't Margaret Quali for Storm and Rogue and all this kind of stuff. It's like, Margaret Quali, you're not even going to her movies. You know what?

That's not, no, that's two different conversations. You know, if you're Sydney Sweetie in her movies, what are we talking? I know, but that's, that's the same conversation that movie stars don't put... It's not movie stars that put people, in seats in the first place anymore they don't do that yeah well then stop telling me they're so amazing cut it out well you can still say they're amazing talents like I still

like I I don't know I don't have enough uh game tape on Sydney Sweeney and is they say she's great as an action I didn't watch I didn't watch I'm not I'm not so I'm not so star meter and they're so high in the star meter but if people aren't going to see your shit how high are you in the star I think that's it we're not in 1995 anymore it's take that. It doesn't work that like that anymore. Like the question is. Yeah. If they put her in one of a role,

in a role like that, right? They put a, like a rogue or whatever. And then does she shine in that moment? Yeah. And then if X-Men, who's like the standouts and who's like F-1, right? F-1, when you're walking out of that, you're going, damson interest is amazing, right? No, no one's going to see that movie because of damson interest.

No, because no one's pumping him up to, be Margaret Quali or Citton. Oh, no, contrary monfriar. Of course, that's the reason you go see that. Of course, that's the reason why. But I'm just saying that that show that he did, it was like, this guy, this is the next Black Panther. This guy's huge. Like, you know,

it's not a big hit snowfall. And so. No, no. But what I'm saying is that he's, but because of the talent, they're like, oh, watch this guy. Watch this guy. And then he gets the spotlight put on him on F1 and he delivers. That's the point. And these movies, you're talking. talking about. These are small budget. Nobody's going to go see the movies.

$50 million is not a small now. That's small now, dude. That's a Ron Howard movie. How people are going to do that? Yeah. 50 million today is a small movie. I guess. Anyway, uh, okay. Tat three full. What's this wave of hate for the rock on Twitter? Hey, look at peace maker and their first instinct was going on line and shit on the rock. You think you committed a crime? It's getting ridiculous. What, what, did they take a shot at at Black Adam? No, but I think people are saying like Peacemaker came out before Black Adam and so peacemakers survived

like Adam because the Rock was trying to Big Arm or Bigfoot his way past James Gunn and past Peter Saffron or remember when that whole thing came out a few weeks ago explaining what was really going on at the time with his interview with Horowitz when he explained what was happening that the Rock had locked down Cabell the day after they had signed this deal with DC. But I guess people are saying because Peacemaker came out just before Blackout.

I'm in here's Peacemaker surviving. I'm more of this place of, have you seen, have you read this interview this morning or maybe didn't, but he was talking, Dwayne's been talking about because he's promoting the smashing machine, which is coming out. I'm excited for that one too. I am. I hope so. It's good. But he said that he was scared

to go after these bigger opportunities to, he was scared. I realized that maybe these opportunities weren't coming away because I was too scared to explore this stuff. when he was talking about these bigger roles that are, you know, to ask a lot of him an actor. Again, that is just such fabricated PR. Directors and writers weren't like, we got to get the rock to be in this really

gritty, dramatic movie. And so, again, it's this kind of brand saving that, to me, feel so. You don't think there's any validity to that? No, I think there's zero validity to the fact. I don't think PTA was like, oh, I got to get Dwayne in this movie. Oh, no. You know, I don't think these big directors or Nolan's like, oh, I got to get Dwayne. in Oppenheimer, you know?

He was probably given opportunities to do more dramatic stuff in there. He stayed in his safe zone. I think he's probably, what he's not saying, and people won't admit it maybe, is he's probably screen tested for some of these and not come up strong. We'll see how smash a machine does.

Because listen, I liked him in Hitch. I think he can do drama. Oh, not Hitch, snitch. Faster. Faster. It's fun. There are, there have been moments for the rock, uh, what, be cool.

and there are moments where he's shown what he can do, but there hasn't been. Yeah. This is the test. This is the test. Yeah. This will be the test. Yes.

Great. But they're making no mistake about it. So why he really got along with Emily Blunt on that jungle cruise movie. Yeah. That's why he made sure that he got her for that role because like she, I think he feels safe with her and she probably brings some good stuff at him. She's she. She elevates everybody.

She's phenomenal. Yeah. Monica. Happy Monday. first day of my new job. I love that, Monica. That's great. Wish me luck. Good luck. Still haven't seen K-pop Demon Hunters, but it's everywhere. I need to check it out soon. You should.

It's a really fun movie. Yeah, you both, Monica. It's really good. I liked it. Go pal. Did August become a movie dumping ground because of all schools move their startup date two to three weeks when I was in school, started after Labor Day. It still starts after Labor Day for at least East Coast, not in the West Coast, but on the East Coast, like the day after Labor Day.

So I don't think it's a dumping ground. August has never been a dumping ground. It's always been. At least for as long as I've been covering these things, the first week or two weeks, you'll get a release they think can do well. And then the rest of it is just they throw everything else in there, not necessarily dumping ground,

but just like no huge releases. First beginning, the beginning of September, you're going to get a couple of nothing really big. Then the end of September, you might get a couple contenders, maybe one big studio movie. and then October studio mixed with Oscar stuff, November, Oscar missed with big movies, December, Oscar missed with big huge movies.

Yeah, yeah. Corn Emperor. My opinion, Sydney Sweeney's hot, not a movie star. Her movies tanking don't mean anything. Actual movie stars need to stick to their roles, franchises, and good. It's like, it's, it is, look, it's a matter of you, Sydney Sweeney today could very well fit everything you just said there tomorrow she'll be putting that one role that everybody goes to see and then she's a big movie star uh she's a star she's a star she's a big huge star i don't think

she's a movie star i don't think she's a star i don't think she's a big huge star she's her name her her name is everywhere i i've seen maybe one thing that she's been in when that's madame web right but i i hear her name every other sentence her name comes up she's she's a star now in the same way that there's Logan Paul is a star. It's a bunch of horn dogs, man. It's not real. All right, whatever. I don't know.

I don't want to. Whatever it might be. Yeah. She's a star. It doesn't matter what it is. I'm not telling you movie star and other stuff, and I haven't seen her stuff. So I can't say if she's a bad actress or not a bad act.

I'm not even saying her talent is an act because I saw that show on HBO that she was on when she played reality. It's like she can act. She can act. It's just like, you know, I think there's more. going on in the pop culture, zeitgeist about her, than there is actually people going to support her work.

But that's a different conversation. Right. I don't disagree with you. I think, though, if people are, there's more conversation about her, that means you're a star. It's people talking about you. Yeah, star. Not big, huge star. That's what I said. She's, I think, I think she's one of the big, like, most, she's crossing over. She's definitely into the mainstream, but

she is the mainstream. No doubt. I still hear Jane's addiction every time you say, caught stealing. I don't know what it's about, but that song, it better be in the movie. It really should be in the movie. I think that I don't even know if I've seen a full trailer. I think I've seen a little bit. I just know that it was on my list because I like is Aronowski. Yes.

And I like Austin Butler. So my fingers are crossed because the last one I got hyped up about with Austin Butler was that motorcycle movie with him and Tom Hardy. I love that movie. Are you doing to run a bike? Did you like it? I haven't seen it. I've seen like 10 minutes of it. It's fine.

It was, I was expecting it to be great. Jody Comer was going to. Ralph, usual suspects is one hour and 40 minutes, perfect reaction movie. I think that's going to be the next one for her. She hasn't seen that. She hasn't seen seven. Ooh, seven. Yeah.

Michael McKenzie. Hey guys, sorry I missed the truth yesterday, John. Have you guys started playing God of War yet? Or have you started playing God of War yet, John? No, I have not. I'm finishing up my last, my second trip through Sushima, man, then I'm going to retire the game and move on. Maybe God of War, but Madden 26 is coming out, or is out.

So I got to play that first. All right. Matt at the movies, going to see Batman 89 and Dolby at AMC theaters. That's a lot of fun. Can't wait. First time I'm watching a theater. That's really great. Nice.

I love that. It's a, I'll never forget that. That was, that is what we were talking. That was an event. Yes, it was. Yeah. I saw that thing eight times in the theaters. Good Lord.

Yeah. That's an event. I remember walking around in Queens when they had this fair. And it was a, it was like a big block party they used to have it. They had it at a Bell Boulevard. They never do that anymore. I just realized, you know what? Well, Luke said how good the color was looking today on the camera. Oh, yes. And I think that's because I only have one of the backlights. Oh, that one. And I might just leave that one off or not. I mean, I've had a happy accident. Yeah. Anyway, I was walking around Bell, I remember seeing all these Batman shirts back in the day. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. You know when that thing popped up, when the ad came up and we,

yeah. Okay. You got to be able to laugh at yourself. Someone's talking about. No, ad line. You got to be able to laugh. Come on. It's funny. Virus.

That's funny. Okay. Yeah. So now at 43 so far, nice little to come back from, John, Nathan Drake, Alien Earth, Episode 3 reaction. Love the first two. I think I'm just going to review the series. Nobody cared about the reaction. I'm just going to, I can't waste the money on the editor.

Nobody gave a shit about it. So I'm going to, I'll watch the whole series and then I'll react. I love this. You know what, John? I went back and I told you that I think maybe those are, I'll watch as they come out week by week as a peacemaker, alien Earth, and then I'll go back and binge maybe fall out. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there you go. There you go.

But I think Alien Earth is going to be my next one. I have to get cut off on number three. The third one is good. Yeah, it's the best episode of the series so far. Mad at the movies. Can't wait to see Sam's reaction to return to the king. But I'm with Roka. I prefer the Hobbit trilogy over Lord of the Rings. That's insanity. That's insanity. You guys live on a crazy island.

I like films about men and not children crying about rings and stuff. the dwarves are men, men, and we're handling business. All right. Congratulations, John. Congratulations. I've been doing this show for you for many years. I would say that's one of the dumbest takes. Maybe the dumbest. Get out of you might have just done it.

You might have just done it. Congratulations. We've got to climb up the mountain, Mr. Frodo. I'm your Sam. Bingus McNally. Christian, have you seen Warfare yet? No, I haven't. I feel like that being your top ten, if you haven't seen it.

I think that if I do see it, I'm just going to see it. I don't think I'm going to do reaction to it. Oh, yeah. It's intense to. It might be in my top three, actually. It might have to move on. Yeah, let's say. All right, next one.

Tim Sim. Hey. Now we're in the last week of the summer movie season. What are your takeaways from this summer? For me, DCUs off to a modest but very good start. Oversaturation mistakes of years before is now affecting the MCU. What do you think? What's his?

Oh, there's a sex. Now we're in the last week of summer. What are your takeaways from this summer? For me, the DCU, I've told modest, but very good start. Oversaturation mistakes of years before is now affecting the MCU. And then Tim's got a second part coming out. We'll read it.

But, yeah, I mean, look, the start, for me, the summer for me, the biggest takeaway for me was Cretton as a superstar director and now $200 million for weapons. That to me is the biggest story. Yeah. Craigor, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Gregor is the, I said, Cretton again. Gregor is the, he's the biggest story of, and that.

It's been kind of a mild summer, I think. But the things got accomplished, like the D.C. launched a new arm and we'll see what happens. We'll see if Supergirl continues that, Clayface continues that. We'll see with the casting, the Brendan Scler thing, a lot that picked up over the weekend. That actually happens. The Jurassic World is still a strong contender. there weren't a lot of strong contenders throughout the summer. So I would say that it was a mild summer, not a great summer.

Milds, yeah, I mean, that's, I mean, clearly from what we just read about the receipts, too, very geek. Don't know if it's on your radar, but Nizzo, too, is one of my favors of the year. Also made an insane amount of money and plans on checking it out. That's 824 one also. I didn't, I mean, I'm assuming that it'll be one of the screeners that we get. So maybe if it comes out on the screener, yeah. It, it is in theaters now.

It only made $1.25 million over the weekend. So it made an insane amount of money in Asia. It did not make an insane amount of money here at all. In fact, people are going after 824 for doing a terrible job of marketing. Okay. All right, let's see. Next one after that is Simon's section. Regarding the naked gun 2025, I enjoyed it.

However, that vacation scene reminds me why George Clooney pulled out of that movie and Michael Keaton stepped in. What did my George Clooney stepped? what and then there's the flash movie john your writer was charmed wait a minute regarding the naked gun i enjoyed it however that vacation scene oh at the end oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh michael keaton was at the very end of that i thought batista was at the end i don't know he's time at the very the end like the the post credit scene yeah i don't is that i don't know michael keaton yeah i don't know and then there's the flash movie john you were right it was charmed

I don't know. I don't know what I was talking about. I don't know. I can't make sense. I would like to take credit for something, but I don't know what he means. Let me know. Tim Simp and then following up, non-comic book blockbusters are still making money.

F1, dress, where we're worth the up. Sinski and Craig are a rising names. There you go. Weapons best film in the summer. Yeah. And we have a new franchise with K-pop team. Well, Tim, should have read your second part first because I agree with you 100%.

Yeah, I think that is, that's the, those are the biggest takeaways for sure. Jeremiah Y is a member for three months. Thank you, Jeremiah. I'm convinced Brandon Skunar might be end up being Batman. Dunn mentioned he's been watching 1923. Oh, I know. I got,

that means nothing, by the way. It means he's just doing that to troll everybody. Come on. But, but I think yes and no. But I also think that he's legitimately watching it. But I would not be surprised if Brandon Scunar is cast as Batman and you know who's going to be, if he's watching 1923, I forget, did you watch 1923?

No, I've watched it. Okay. So I believe that if. If he does cast, then I believe I know who, oh, who Alfred will be. Okay. Timothy Dalton. Oh, that's a good choice. I like that.

They're both in that show. Now, Timothy Dalton plays a very different character than Dalton, I mean, the Dalton, then Alfred in this. He plays a very, very evil dude, but he's so good. So I wouldn't be surprised, but he was watching it, not just to watch it, though. He was watching it for research. Now, does that mean he's going to cast Brendan's good? are. No, it doesn't. Oh, I'll tell you what I don't like about peacemaker and I that's how

James Gunn. Okay. I wish they would have kept, I like the new dance. The new music does not work for that sequence. I agree. 100%. Oh, I love that song so much. It should have kept that song. Just doing new dance. Doing too much. And I get it. You're trying to do that new song. And I never say that about James Gunn. He hated that new song. It was like, oh, it just did not work. It was, it took me out of it. I was like, oh, put that, put the old, do you want to do you really want it. It's the best. put it back put it back you can still do the same damn sequence put it back that song sucks

yeah he's usually the intro to tell you what the show is going to be about this season but I think you're right it should have kept the opening Johnny Vainerrable Fallout was one of the best shows of 2024 and it's right up your alley Christian I can't believe you haven't seen it yet

God is incredible I've watched three episodes I think three four I can't remember I can remember how I've watched I watched enough that I can know when I bring up Amazon Prime and I go continue watching The Kelly Kid. I love John Roker. There you go, Kelly.

Thank you, Kelly. Julius Wyatt, can't wait for Springsteen biopic and Marty Supreme. Yeah, the Springsteen biopic. Thank you. Even that out. That's one of my most anticipated. 100%. Yeah.

Pooh the weeny. Christian, how do you feel about your favorites this year being horror? Sinners, 28 years, weapons, final destination. You say you're not a horror guy. I don't like slasher films. Yeah. I don't like slasher films. I don't like gratuitous things.

No, all the ones you just mentioned, sinners, 28 years, weapons, final destination, and well, maybe a final destination, but there was, and I don't know if I'd put final destination to my top 10, I just had fun with it. But those other ones are like, as they say, elevated horror. You know, this is more like it was, it was really well-written, character-driven stuff.

I've always responded to that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Matt Sinister McGa. If you have any horror movie reactions planned for October, Best Snyder, Jeff Snyder, and James Gunn, to meet at the White House for a ceasefire.

There we go. I saw I saw I did see on this on the on the on the I don't know if it was on the show that you guys did on this channel. But I did see Jeff kind of back his comments up a little bit more James is like I don't know I don't know and we're both very similar guys. Yeah, he is saying that. He said on the show at one point. I hate him.

He said he said he said he wants to fight him. He says he wants to fight. But we know this in life. Sometimes the people we hate the most of the people that reflect our own baby like about ourselves back at ourselves yeah maybe so um so let's see um okay peace how about are you support i saw k-pop in theaters that's fun didn't know it was a same one of the kid yelling fun movie though that's hilarious um i mean it says it right on the bill this one's gonna cause so much shit on so many different levels yeah callie kid says

Dakota Johnson are Julia Roberts and Florence Pugh. Consence. Yeah, I'm going to pull up a picture because we're talking about that age range. Consence. You got to uttering. All right. So you're talking Dakota Johnson and Florence Pugh, who are both very attractive. And both have curves.

You're crazy person. Yeah. You're all crazy people. Yeah. No, even I'm with Christian on this one. Yeah, they're crazy people. Julia Roberts is definitely over Dakota Johnson. Now, I think you go to John, now, this is the thing that's going to drive.

You're nuts. Okay. I go in my three, as far as attractive. Yeah. I go Julia Roberts, to go to Johnson, Florence, Pew. You're so insane. Sorry. You're so insane.

That's where I go. But let's go. Next one. And this is Eric Kirby. Hey, guys, with a world full of dog lovers. How much money do you think, good boy, that horror dog movie will make at the boxhouse? I didn't know about it until, until, John's, yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I think it all depends on what happens in the movie and the first wave of reviews with people who see the movie. Because, I mean, people love dog movies, but if the dog's in danger and if the dog dies, I think a lot of people won't go see it. But if the dog survives, which I imagine it will since it's PG-13, I think people will with curiosity factor. But I don't think it's going to be like $300 million and it'll do well. J.P. Wiggins, Abba and Preach covered the Roger crime pretty good. The Moran was live streaming ringside and allowed his audience. to goad him to the crime he needs to sit in a prison cell for a few years he definitely needs to have a repercussion yeah he definitely does i mean that was i mean there was an assault i agreed

a hundred percent it was an assault yeah yeah uh pro wrestling should not be excused no go pal i saw robocop at 10 and i hated it should revisit oh man i i think i saw the same age i loved it yeah yeah god i love this so much um okay eric kirby john are almost 50 now not bad not bad Eric Kirby. Hey, guys, with the world. We did that one again. Michael. Yeah, I agree.

Since you guys like your sports, you should check out Australian Rules football. Playoffs for our next week and my team are in the mix. Go Fremantle. Well, I will say, I'm too old to learn new sports. But I give you all the support that one. I occasionally will catch Australian rules football.

I think on Fox or ESPN, like, because they play early in the morning live. It's fun. I'm not actually going to get into it, but I'm an S&Den, FC fan from years ago. So I'll throw that out. Go pal.

Crowley's accent was grading, but I like D.A. dolls. Okay. Yeah, I didn't, I didn't see it. Matt's Dennis to McCall. Rokke, I have questions on some of your movie takes. What's wrong with once upon a time Hollywood ending? Hobbit over Lord of the Rings. Why do you like Citizen Kane?

It's the greatest film of her maid. That's why it's I like, it's the one that sparked my love of movies, really. We've talked about the ending. I don't like, because he didn't do anything to build up to the ending. And so it was, it was you coming in with your knowledge of what historically happened that he used to do that ending and those kids didn't look threatening at all they looked like completely flaccid young teenagers can't do shit they didn't look

threatening at all so that he went over the top and indulged his love for violence on that too much in my opinion and as i said hobbit over l o'tr because i just like the dwarves better than the better than the hobbits so much better than the um okay uh going back to wrestling real quick you know raw today is on a three o'clock because it's in Paris. Yeah, are you going to watch Clash in Paris this weekend? I don't think, I mean, well, I'll watch it, but I just want to watch it live. Yeah, I'll watch it. I'm curious.

I want to see what they're going to do with the women's championship. You've got to give it back to Ria at this point, right? I don't know, maybe. Oh, we're hard to refer because of her pregnancy. Yeah, that was a great promo about that. Ray is not pregnant, is she? No, no. I only, yeah.

But her turning it around, and I thought it was genius. Josh or Spencer, have you seen the trailer for a nominee? What is it? Anamony. It's the new Daniel DeLuice film. He corroded it with his son. I knew that that's why he was coming back. I didn't see the show though.

His trailer looked good? Yeah, him and Sean Bean playing old Irish Republican soldiers who were involved in the troubles and revisiting what happened in the past. It seems that's what he's hinting at. It seems pretty stylized. But yeah, his son directed and co-wrote it with Daniel. It looks like that out. I think sometime later this year.

Makes sense. What, you know, as well as I do. And he's going to come back for this. He hasn't acted in what, 10 years, something like that? Yeah. Something like that. He's getting nominated. Probably.

If he wins. If he wins, I mean, you got to put him in goat status, right? Or at least in the conversation. Oh, I think he's already in goat status, to be honest with you. But the, the goat or just status? I just looked at the ringer. The ringer just released the top 100 and one best, performances of the 21st century and they put Daniel day Lewis below Naomi Watts in

Mall Holland Drive kiss my Latino fat ass man Daniel day Lewis is number one in there there is no competition zero from there will be blood not how many Watts can't hold a fucking candle to what Daniel day Lewis does and there will be great that movie Joey Peders is there a place for big movies that's something interesting to say anymore feel like most mainstream movies have become severely dumbed down. I don't know. I mean, look, I mentioned Thunderbolts. I think Thunderbolts had a lot to say about mental health, which is one.

I think, you know, there's, I think there are, I don't think you're wrong. There are a lot of dumbed down big action movies, but I think there are some that we're going to look at a, I mean, even Barbie, which I don't necessarily love, but Barbie had a lot to say. I think it's all going to change. I know Christian doesn't like us to get too political, but it seems very clear. that there is a mandate amongst these studios to not dive into too, too deeply into content that is going to cause people to actually think. Sinners is the anomaly.

And I think these are the things that you're going to see more and more over the next four years. We want to see less people of color, less women leading this stuff, less conversations about their issues other than independent films. But mainstream movies, big movies, I don't think we're going to have any of that at all. And if we do, it's going to be like how Disney does it, where they dip their toe in and then quickly move on from it. No, I just don't think it's going to be as, you guys have talked about it's not agreed on this.

Sometimes it's done in a way that it looks like they're pandering. And when they do forcing it. Yeah. And when you're doing that, that adds to the problem of everybody, oh, they're just doing this because you do it in a way that you're like, oh, well, that, to me, it all makes sense. I think you can still do that without giving nobody opportunities again, because then you're right back to where you started.

But I think that, I don't know, it's a whole different conversation. Yeah, it is. Dingus McNally, the only actor that puts my butt in the seat is Timothy Shalamee, since he's always so good in pretty unique projects. Jeremy Allen White is up there too. I see the point.

I mean, I really, I'll tell you, a movie that I saw in the theater and said, that was fine and wind up saying, okay, yeah, I thought he was good in it, but the movie was fine, that I want up really enjoying and it has a warm space in my heart now, and granted, I took my two kids to see it,

and wound up loving it was, was Wonka. Oh, yeah, Wanka was really good. Parker really won me over. That's a movie that when people, I got to remember that. When people say, what's a movie that when you first saw you that was okay and then you grow out to love? Wanka is one of those movies. Agreed. Sheldley is quietly becoming one of the greatest actors we have of our generation, of this current generation right now.

Yet he's not getting the same kind of conversations that Daniel D. Louis got when he was in his heyday in our, in our, time. Right. So it's a fascinating career that he has right now, but undeniably fantastic. Uh, go pal. Sweeney manifested 125 million. Glenn Powell and Sidney, that was not Sweeney by herself. Yeah.

It seemed like single-handedly with her, uh, Instagram, reality was good and she's good on euphoria. I didn't see, I haven't seen any of those. So I can't, I can't say. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, okay. Yeah, I thought she was good reality.

I haven't seen you for it. stuff for go but yeah can't really open any general movie i don't think most there's what actors really open movies now if i was sidney i'd call up drastic world right now if they're if they want to move on from scarlet if this is a one-off i would say bring me into this let me lead you into the next uh phase of Jurassic world yeah that's how you make your money a hundred percent all right let's see um i mean her is power girl it'll be good uh mike larry first time watchers. Pulp Fiction felt too long but powerful. Finally, some Memento and Fight Club.

Both brilliant love every minute. I love everything you said there might accept that it was too long. That's a perfect movie. Yeah, probably. Pulp Fiction's a perfect movie. All right. You don't think so? I mean, I don't think any movie's perfect. So I can't have a tough time to sing.

Close to too. Right. Fair point. I would agree with that. Close to perfect. Yes. I just love that movie so much. Julius Sweeney scene is unnecessary. To which one? The Julia Sweeney scene. at the end with the Harvard being Harvey Kyle's daughter or whatever when she shows

up to pick them up at the end of the movie at the at the when they're crushing the cars and Pulp Fiction? Yeah. Oh yes yes yes yes yes I don't like that scene. Okay. Geeklots What do you think of WWE pushing the deal that they made to go into effect after September? Is that with the ESPN? Yeah, yeah. Really? Also

Cross showed up on GCW I saw that he showed up, yeah. Yeah. And they're crying a nuts. I still think it's a work. I don't think it is. I'm pretty confident saying it. I don't think it is. Simon's section. Apologies. Jack Frost, the movie. Jack Frost, the move the snow vacation scene.

Getting freaky. Last shot in the flash movie before no tooth. Charmed. I still don't understand. A lot in there. I don't know. Jack Frost, the move the snow vacation scene. Getting freaky.

Last shot. Okay. So, oh, I see. He's saying they used the Michael Keaton and Jack Frost snowman character in Naked Gun Oh, oh, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see, I see, okay, now that makes, I love that scene.

The movie, I agree. Loved that scene. It was so stupid. It was, I loved that. Stephanie Lutz, Lord of the Rings is way more manly. Arogorn by himself is more manly than all those hobbit dwarves combined. Here, here, here. Sam kills a spider, Pippet and Staple. Mary saves Faramere, as Aragon says, they bowed to no one.

Stephanie, there's no reason of arguing with this fool. They can't bow when they're already lower than they would if they were bowing by standing up. But listen, that is nonsense. Aragorn is, I don't know, man, I can't say that. That's it. Gimley is the manly one of the three of them. Get on out of here. Aragorn is soft and sensitive and touching.

It's between the two women for me. Come on, come on. Crazy person. Jimley's the man. Gimley is pretty great. You never toss a d'12. off. Yeah, that's right. It's a, yeah, you're, the Hobbit movies we're, we're waiting on because it's one of those ones. I just don't think I'm going to, I'm waiting. Uh, no one, there's no one.

There's no one's clamoring for it. No one was waiting for that movie, those movies. No one. Uh, prime. Yeah. Brian O'Neill, Prime video Ireland just added the three hour version of Kligula. And now it's in the top 10 most watch list. That's family movie. I started 100%. That's, that's hilarious. seen that movie and so I mean the scenes obviously. Yeah. Thanks. 53, John. 53.

Oh, nice. Joshua Gonzalez. Top two greatest actors are Daniel DeLuos and Lawrence Olivier. Hard to argue that. But I mean, Marlon Brando would you put him in there? Oh, Brando in there over Olivier. Well, yeah, because Olivier is kind of put upon acting when you watch

the old stuff that he did. And I think Brando, like, sparked a movement in that method acting. Well, the other thing I was going to say is, did you see, the movie doesn't look very good, but that movie with Billy Zane playing. Oh, yeah, I saw the trailer over the weekend. Yeah. He looks just like.

Insane. Insane. He doesn't really sound like him, but he looks just like him. Yeah. And the movie, I just don't think looks very good. But he, they shot at him as Brando, as the Don Corleone, is crazy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

It's crazy. Like he looks he looks just like him. Yeah. All right, let's see. That's, thank you, Josh.

The Kelly Kid, I saw weapons and I really loved it. We're seeing in a theater. It's absolutely, I didn't see it in IMAX though. Did you see it in IMAX? No, just saw it regular.

Me too. Yeah. JP Wiggins, first time reaction for you and Sam Hunt for the Wilder people want to take his best. I don't think that's a, I mean, I do want to see that movie.

And I've never seen it, but I, but I don't know if that's a reaction that people are going to watch that reaction. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah.

Especially because Tyca is stained now from Love and Thunder. Is he though? Yes. And Mexico wins those two films. Yeah. Last one for now. Okay. Julius.

I lied. Julius Wyatt, DDL, Daniela Lewis, and there will be blood as maybe the best performance ever. It's hard to argue. Yeah. Against it.

It's in a conversation. I mean, this is the ringer pandering. Oh, let's put a female at the time. It's nonsense. Fucking day to day, lucid.

Kalani, Demon Slayer, Infinity Castle, break records. So I was supposed to see that last week. Oh, okay.

But I have never seen the show. So everybody was telling me, everybody in the comments, everybody, like, Steph was like, you cannot see. It's like,

someone said it. It's like going, it's like going, it's like going, if they did a Sopranos movie at the end of season and not seeing any episodes of Sopranos. So I'm like,

all right, I guess I'll wait. And I didn't go. Plus the fact that had a thing I had to take my daughter to the doctor that day, so just didn't work out. Yeah. Yeah. There has to be a thing. No, wait a minute.

Poo the ween, he said, Rokin and Sender didn't even know Golum died and returned to the king. We forgot that he had died. Jeff didn't know. How did you judge the movies? You haven't seen him. I've seen the movies. I'm saying we forgot. I forgot that he died because I haven't seen the movies in forever. The whole end of the movies, the whole point of the ring going in.

A whole end of the movie is six fucking endings with blackheads. That's fair, too. That's fair too. Wow. All right. Simon's section. John, I saw your scene in Charmed.

You played an emergency response worker. I thought it was ER. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what they were talking about. Charmed. Yeah, the Charmed. Yeah, being in Charmed. Oh, that's what he was Simon was getting at.

Yes. You're saying in Charmed. It was a lot of fun. Rose McGowan was really sweet. I had a really nice time with her. She's very kind. What about the other ones? You were with other ones?

No, no. I was only one. She was coming in right after me in the scene. Yeah. And she was really nice to me because I was nervous. She could tell I was nervous. I mean, just say the lines. It ain't that big of a deal.

Brandon Ninja. Samara weaving is hotter than Sydney, Sweeney. It's all taste, isn't it? It's all projected. I got to see her. Yeah, Samara is definitely like, everyone says you don't see Margo,

Robbie, Doming, Presley, and Samara in the same room. Yeah, she's cute. Yeah, she's got two movies out right now on streaming. Samara. Let's see. Paul Hitchcock, what a show. John Dwarfossing, Hobbit-loving, Roker, and Christian, Warkin,

quickly, Game Taped Harloff. 100%. Yeah, that makes sense. That's usually, that's a, that's a solid Monday show. It's usually what happens. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. So we got 59. We'll do that. You do it, you do a sign off. If they want to keep you on, they'll throw a couple more in there. If not, we'll be back here soon. Oh, yeah, Nathan Drake. Remember the emoji movie? Christian Zvere, what a hunk of dog shit that was. That is the essence of the Kool-Aid movie. I mean, that's the essence of it. Yeah, yeah. Oh, gee movie. All right, John, take us that where are we going? Thank you guys. Appreciate it madly. Please follow me at the Roka says on all

social media. Head over to the new John Roker channel. YouTube.com slash John Roka says. See all the great stuff we've got going on. Today the geek buddies or hot Mike. Look for that coming out today. And then the other one will come out tomorrow and of course spill the tequila tomorrow night and all of that. Thank you so much, Christian. Have a great Monday. I don't I don't need 30 minutes of lighting fires. Yeah. How there you go, pal. All right. Across the me, the meadow. Get out of here. Get out of here. All right. So John Roka, guy thank you for you guys really appreciate it check us out on apple podcast Spotify any your podcast I appreciate you guys very much um please if you haven't checked out my f1 reaction with my buddy Ming he's brand new to this so go show him some support you're going to see a lot

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