The Kristian Harloff Show - LEAK ! Disney allegedly victim to a major data hack!

Episode Date: July 15, 2024

Disney was allegedly hacked with a major breach f datea from employees emails to future projects. What does this mean for the Mouse House? Will we see another leak of data like we did Sony years back? The Box Office is in and LONGLEGS crushes while Fly Me to the Moon falters. Agatha is supposedly very scary with lots of horror elements. Avengers 5 loses its writer and Netflix launches their Terminator animated series trailer. Join Kristian Harloff and John Rocha for this live episode of the Big Thing. #netflix #terminator #

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the information leak well john roga's got his nose into these things what does he know about it did he do it probably not but we'll talk about it and you know sony had a really uh bad leak a few years ago so is this the same type of thing is this something to worry about are we going to find out all this information and all these. Remember all that stuff that happened with Pascal? Is that the same type of thing? Well, we're going to find out in the weeks to come. I'm sure. Is it even legit? Maybe it's BS and nobody ever hacked them at all. Well, we'll discuss it. There is a lot of other things going on in the world of movies like the box office. What's the big box office numbers this week? Well, I'll tell you what's the big surprise was with this long legs. Made a lot of money

and you know for the amount of money it cost to make and the opposite to that is a movie that probably shouldn't have cost as much as it did and didn't do very well was fly me to the moon which wasn't a bad movie i actually liked it it just shouldn't have cost a hundred million dollars to me unless you're going to put it on streaming is what i think but who knows you know what i'm saying they um what else we got a lot of the things i don't know what else wrong with me what's wrong with you we have Agatha. And Agatha says, they're saying it's scary, really scary. Horror. So scary. And then the event speaking, the MCU, we got a, we got another writer bites the dust in this time on Avengers. What's going on over there? And plus we'll talk about that Terminator series.

I didn't even know it was coming out, the animated series on Netflix. Well, that's coming out. Trailer dropped. We'll discuss. And then we'll take your questions. I already see there's tons of super chats coming in, tons of them. And that's what we do. We read all the stories. And then we read your questions. So start firing them in there now. We also have a clips channel that we just started. So if you want to catch things in little doses, interview clips and all that, I got Robert Eiler from the Sopranos coming on. How about that? That's going to be a good one too. I'm excited. You should be excited. So we're getting the studio together, got a brand new wall. Studio's doing good. Brett's working his balls off. And that's what I got for you.

So it's me and John Roker. It's a live edition. Ready? Me too. Here we go. That's me. There we go. That's the way to do it.

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back. It is the big thing. And it is myself alongside John Roker. What's up? Hello. How you doing? I'm good, man.

How are you? Doing good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, look at this. Stop it. Brett's going to lose his mind. It doesn't, it has. I love Mike Joyce. He's one of my favorite people, but this does not resemble even close to a fucking dungeon.

It's a nice wall that's going to have pictures on it. Stop that, Mike. Brett's going to jump out of a window. It does not. I was going to ask you for doing a House of the Dragon review, but I guess not. I guess not. We're going to have pictures here and all the pictures are going to be back. Brett's been, Brett, like, hand-painted these walls, too.

Wow. They look like real brick. Don't they like hand paint? Yeah. Anyway. So you are make paint. Go yes. Go ahead.

It's looking good. It's doing good. Things are working. Things are moving. Things are grooving. And how are you doing? I'm good. I'm good.

Yeah? Just. Yeah. All as well. Just recovering from the weekend. But yeah. What I will tell you is this, man. In the world of entertainment news.

Richard Simmons. I know. Shannon Dardy, Dr. Ruth. Three. Come on. Come on. I mean, yeah, I leaned over in the morning and told Lindley about Richard Simmons and Dr. Ruth on the same day.

And she was like, well, who's the third? Who's the third? And sure enough, the next morning, the Doho went. Shannon Dordy. What a shame. She's battling cancer for a long time. Yeah, yeah. Really sad, really sad that all of them, you know, Dr. Ruth was, she lived a full life.

Yeah. The full life. She was like 93. Great. Richard Simmons, you know, was sick. And so Shannon Darry, 53, way, way too young. It inspired me to go back and watch an old Kinnison bit on Dr. Ruth, which I haven't seen. Oh, I remember that. It's hilarious.

Really, really good. Remember how much I love Kinnison, man. That was such a great bit. 100%. And we have other stuff, man. So we got other news to talk about here, too. And this is something I saw, and I was sending the stories to John today. Yeah.

What the hell is going on here? So let's, let's start with. this one and that is of course the story about Disney and it is apparently there was a Disney hack that's what they're saying they're saying it was a Disney hack so let's let's exactly read and then we'll kind of assess what we think it is so first of all it says Disney allegedly yeah hit by a data hack allegedly. Allegedly multiple outlets though including insider gaming game rant and comic book movie are all reporting that a group is claiming to have hacked into Disney with allegations that 1.1 terabytes of data has been compromised.

The group has reportedly gained access to the company's internal slack, and the data in question allegedly includes news on unreleased projects and concept art. The group has reportedly not confirmed that the breach is legitimate, and Disney has yet to comment on the alleged hack. Following the claim, the group's website has seemingly been knocked offline. None of the alleged stolen content has been released online yet, though some are suggesting the recently leaked details of the unannounced video game sequel, Aliens Fire Team Elite 2 might be the first sign. If the reports are true, this would mark the latest media company to have experienced such a breach

following in the wake of Rockstar Games and insomniac games suffering devastating breach in recent times. The reports follow in the wake of a one-hour Marvel Studio panel being announced for Hall H. Comic-Con on on Saturday, July 27th. Okay, so John, you hear this, man. You hear that this is, first of all, you think that this is legit. You think it's somebody just strumming up nonsense? What do you think about it? Oh, no, I think it's absolutely legit.

And I'll tell you why. The fact that Disney hasn't come out officially and been like this did not happen. Everybody calmed down. This is not going on. We handled this. This was not an issue. This is clearly some organization trying to make their phones or their name off of us. and that's not what's going on here.

And I'll tell you why, because recently, as I said last week, we bought a car and we bought it from Kia. Kia works with this overall network that a number of dealerships across the country work with, and a group hacked that network to get details, people's personal details in that network, and they had to all these dealerships had to go by hand and start writing out contracts by hand, like in the old days, because of the breach. and the people who are in charge of that company, they are going to pay the ransom. So that tells me that these data breaches

that in the past were seen as occasional and you could negotiate, companies are much more paranoid about what these companies are going to do with that data, so they're settling. The fact that Disney hasn't said anything makes me wonder if there's conversations going on behind the scenes about how to minimize the damage

here on their brand and minimize the damage on how much of that information gets leaked out. And Christian, I'm old enough to remember when Sony got their emails hacked and Amy Patel. That's what I thought of. That's what I thought of immediately was the Sony act. The Sony hack cost people jobs. It showed, you know, some of the smack talk on certain actors, on directors, on directors. There's so much.

I mean, if they hack that much, they leaked that much and what they can actually get. And then other appearances, negotiations, announcements of titles of what's happening with certain big projects. whether it's Marvel, Star Wars, other IPs they're buying the next avatar. Who knows? And you look at the stuff gaming-wise and all that. It could be catastrophic to Disney if a lot of the stuff got out, especially when they're starting, because they had a, even though they came in second last year, which people were doing it was,

they didn't have the best year. And they still came in second. This year, they're already poised to, like, annihilate the box office because you got inside out to, Deadpool's right around the corner. You got Muface of these other things. that they're already starting to do pretty well and do well again. So the last thing they want is a hack at all. And I think you're 100% right.

It's like if it was nothing, this is just a lot of rhetoric and nonsense. Right, exactly. And you wonder where what information could come out, right, Christian? Because I mean, it's not just the Marvel. Oh, people know what's coming. Because look, working with Jeff Snyder, I know there are a lot of loose lips in Hollywood.

There are assistants. There are managers. There are agents. There are actors, fellow actors who are on sets. They're all willing to talk. junior execs all willing to talk and reveal stuff as long as they don't get it traced back to them. So revealing that stuff is is going to happen. This other stuff, like, what about the Jonathan Major stuff?

What if we get information on how that whole decision went down? How early did they know about the situation? What is the truth about all of that? What is their thinking and all of that? So there's a lot of controversy that could come out of this hack if they go deep enough. Yeah, this is why after the Sony. anything. They hired all the old time gangsters to be like part of it.

No more emails. No more. You get over. You come over. We'll meet downstairs. We just had a whole coffee shop put in there. Nothing's wired. Sit down. It's like no more emails. You understand? You're going to tell me about the new

Marvel movie? Email thing, Tony. That's like they have Riv, Silvio. Not good. it's not good at the mouse they don't always want a movie they're goofy they show they show don't's nudes it's bad um

so we'll see we'll see what happens there but that's not good news for if i'm disney i'm not i'm not excited there especially now right on the precipice of comic con do which i think the timing is why they did it this is the perfect time to put disney in trouble and get them to pay right now yeah but do they do they do that or do they actually pay, you know, if it's like, or do it's like at this point, like, would you pay someone?

Like, okay, please don't leak the information. Here's the money. And then what happens if you pay the money and then they leak in anyway? You just take the, you take the change. You just take the punch in the chin, I think. Yeah. Yeah, the company I was told by one of the car dealerships, one of the general managers, it was $85 million that that company was going to pay the hackers in order to not get them to release the information. So I guess when the number's high enough, you think I'll pay it because they'll actually adhere to what they say they're going to do. Yeah, I know, but that's, I mean, what, how much is that? Yeah, I mean, that's like, yeah.

And then, I mean, that's in plus the fact they've kind of been already, this, this group has been run off the internet already. So who knows. Yeah, yeah, who knows what's going to happen. But either way, it's, it's a crazy time, crazy time living. And by the way, yeah, we didn't mention Shelley Duvall, but that's, yeah, Charlie DeVall was, I mean, not that it was any less. Sad. It just, it had happened a little, a couple days before. Yeah. Um, did you watch House of the Dragon last night, by the way? I did. I loved it. Yeah, we're going to do our review after our show on the geek buddies. So yeah, I'm excited to talk about it. It was really, really good. It led to a lot of stuff.

So I don't want to spoil it. I know we did spoilers last week, but that was, that was different. It's so funny in how, how this freaking, this internet game thing that we play, John, with the, it's like when, when you're looking at an episode like last week that has all this action and these big moments, the videos do well but I don't know about you both my thing I did in this episode this episode list I need a big pile of shit well we'll find out because I'm putting my reaction up

a little bit later and then the talking episodes and the one I loved it I loved it I thought it was so it's so monumental to what's going to eventually happened in this series and so many things happened last night that are going to you're going to look back and go oh that's when that happened that's what kind of turned the tide that's what gave them a new puzzle piece that's like

but the audience is like nothing big happen except people talking So why don't want to watch somebody react to it? Why don't want somebody do the reaction to it or talk about it? Yeah, they should have redubbed the episode House of the Dragon the next generation because it really was like all the younger children now coming to the forefront and now we're getting this battle on two different generational levels. It's true.

So I think it's going to be fascinating what it all leads to. And trust me, next week, if what they're teasing in that season six, or that episode six trailer is what they're going to explore and what they teased at the end of this last episode. there is fireworks galore coming and some brutal brutal deaths coming. So just letting you all know. Well, what's funny is that I didn't actually watch the next week's preview. Oh, yeah.

No, no, no, because I didn't see that and I didn't see the previously on because I had a screen link to watch it. And the screen link just shows the episode. And I was like, oh, I was going to go back. and watch it because I wanted to see but I'm like do I I know I kind of like not knowing what the hell is going on I also like sometimes because I'm already so locked into the show yeah that sometimes and I like that they do this but sometimes I don't want to know and that's it they do this preview when you do the preview they show basically the storylines that they're going to cover this oh yeah and when you do it and it's good that they do it because it's like oh yeah yeah yeah there's

certain things that I know and I didn't watch the I didn't watch the very beginning of it where they did the preview stuff I can guarantee you they showed certain things that I that I totally forgot about. Let me just ask you this. Did they show in the previous, like showing, you know, when, when, Amen,

not Eman, Egon, when he, when he promised the, the, the, the, that he was going to help him out.

Did they show? They show that. And yeah, right. I knew that. And I was like, when I was watching episode, I'm like,

oh, yeah, I remembered it. It made sense that they showed that, but nonetheless. Yeah. Yeah. Um, do that on the boys all the time.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I still need, I still need to watch that whole series boy. the boys i've been watching i'm just watching the bear right now um it's been it's been tough to know i'm going are you seeing twisters tonight uh no not tonight i have mine is next week the oh before which is tomorrow uh well i know i know mine is tomorrow yeah yeah i can't

get that's yeah yeah um you're seeing it tomorrow okay i'm not i'm going into the city tonight to go see it um so i'm going to check i heard i hear good things i hear good things Good things. I mean, good things. They say, no, no cows this time. But we're going to put anyone new to Donald. We're going to put them in there. Swing them around.

Get them. Two of them. Forget about it. Two. Anyway, I see a lot of people putting those questions in there. Thank you so much. Keep them going. We'll get to them.

Let's get to this next story, man. Let's do it. And that's all about the box office right now. All about the box office because, holy moly, this long legs did very well. But let's talk. Let's talk about it. Let's see. So the box office, I'm going to tell you what it is. Not unexpectedly. Illumination and Universal Pictures, Dispicable Me Four, won the domestic box office this weekend once again with $44.6 million, a drop off of just 40% in its second outing. The animated sequel has ranked up $211 million domestically so far, and 437 so far worldwide. The film has reportedly pushed past the $5 billion mark, the first animated franchise in.

in history to do so. All headlines, however, are now focused on who came in second, namely neon serial killer thriller Long Lakes, which delivered the best opening for an original horror film this year so far and the best opening ever for the distributor in seven years of the operation. The Micah Monroe and Nicholas Cage-led film ranked up 22.6 domestically, far outpacing projections the other week, which were more in the teens. film was also clever economically.

The production budget was under 10 million. Now it's reporting considerably less. Its marketing budget also came in under 10 million. The film was going all, it was going to go all digital route and relying on, sorry, the film went all digital route. There was no network TV ads and relying on a smartly delivered campaign

spread out over months. The other film that opened this weekend wasn't a success. That is the Channing Tatum and Scarlett Johanton led 1960s set rom-com, flying me into the moon. That came under projections at 10 million and in fifth place. That's a disastrous start for the film, which reportedly came in in a budget of 100 million. It adds to the theatrical woes for the Apple Studios following Argyle earlier this year, which failed to crack 100 million despite a $20 million budget, excuse me, 200 million dollar budget. That was Pixar. Third was Pixar's Inside Out. Further, 20.7 million.

Domestically, it sits at 572 and globally $1.35 billion. Fourth was a quiet place, day one with 11.8 million domestically, with its total now 116 million in the U.S. and 200 million worldwide. All right, John, let's talk about some of the success first. Yes, about success first. No, success could go with, let's talk long legs. It was number two. This is what we always talk about with can you get a lower budget, good movie. You make it for under 10 million, get enough stars in there, probably give Nicholas,

Nicholas Cage some points on the movie, you know? Yeah. And you put that out there for whatever it is. And the marketing side of it, very smart. They didn't rely on the, the big, look at like Fall Guy, which had a big marketing campaign spent thousands and millions, millions of dollars on billboards and talk shows and all these different things or whatever it is and commercials and didn't do Jack, right, as far as what it was intended to do. And the digital side of things, pushing it digitally did help this movie. I didn't see this movie. Did you see it? No, I've not seen this movie. I will see it this week, though. Jeff,

Jeff talked me out of it. He said they didn't like it too much, so I love Jeff. I'm so, his taste or hit and miss for me. With horror, I always kind of defer to him, but then again,

he's, you know, he can be quite the prickly dude. So, yeah, depends on, yeah, but I mean,

but success, I mean, it's a big success. There's no doubt. I had no idea Nick Cage was in it until like a day or two before it got released. I just,

I know when I, do you know when I found out that he was in it? When I read that story just now. Ha ha ha. I had no idea that he was in it. All I knew about this movie, I didn't even know about this movie. You know how I knew about it?

Because I had so many people on Instagram post that had nothing to do with movies. Wouldn't you review long legs? I'm like, I didn't even know what that is. And now I do, but I didn't know what it was. I wasn't paying attention to it. I didn't do,

I don't do what I used to do with like Ellis. Ellis and I would look at every movie. Oh, sure. Like three big blockbusters that were coming out, the three independent. We would see everything all week. I can't do that anymore. but but it was but i need to know yeah i can't do but i do want to see it now i'm curious about it

yeah well i mean and the thing is in the breakdown which really surprised me they're saying it might even be less than 10 million that 10 million is just what they're what the accepted number is but it could actually be less and if it made less if it was made for less it made 22 million i mean let's say it was made for seven right it already made three times its budget in the first weekend so you know this i'll tell people like if you're a horror writer you have to be encouraging you by this kind of stuff because it means you can make a movie like i'm looking at what the wangers do i'm like these guys you know take the next step let's go take the next step somehow and get into that position because you just never know uh with the shorts they make the horror shorts they make if they were

to make one that's like an hour and in 20 minutes hour and a half who knows what can at so yeah i always i bring up i bring up night swim all the time oh yeah the movie it's not that's nice swim's not a good move it's it's it's not a good movie but it's nothing to make and it made a profit Depending on when you put it on, that this movie apparently is really good. People do. And it is for that amount of money to make that movie, and you can make

22 opening weekend. There you go. Now, we stick with the positive. And applicable me, which we thought would be the number one animated movie of the year. It doesn't seem like it's going to be, but it does seem like it's going to give insight out

to a run for its money. That 40% drop is good for that movie. It's doing pretty well. So that and Inside Out, two are doing very well. Yeah. So those are positives as we knew that they would be, right? The one that is not shocking to me, although disappointing, yeah.

Yeah. I liked that movie. I wasn't expecting to like that movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you see it? No, again. Right. Right.

You didn't hear. I put down two screenings for that thing. I went to that movie and I wasn't and when they invited me to it, I was like, you know what, I'm going to go check it out. I saw with Tom Chattelbash, who I had never met before and had a chance to go and check it out with Tom and great guy. And we had, and we went and watched it and the only negative I had about the movie was that they started the screening 20 minutes late. By the time I started, it was like 8.30. I'm like, come on. I got to catch trains now.

But the movie itself, I was surprised at how charming it was. I was surprised like that, but I remember saying to myself, it did. This movie costs anywhere past $80 million as I was watching the move and enjoying the movie. I'm going, if this movie costs it, how do they expect to make money on this movie? This isn't, we're not, this isn't 2000, 2010. This movie could have debuted on Apple. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it is an Apple TV movie.

So there's an Apple Plus movie. So then this is when I saw that it was that after the Napoleon situation and after a couple of other Apple TV movies that I went to go see in the theater. I was like, you know what? This is going to be out on the service soon enough. And it's one of these kind of smaller films that isn't really, you know, that big of a deal for me to go see.

So I'll just wait. And that's the way I approached that one. And I bet there's a lot of people who maybe saw the Apple TV logo on the poster and we're like, oh, well, that's going to come out on TV, so I'm going to wait on it. Maybe. And also it's just that those are the types of movies these days that people aren't really going to see in the theater. And you got it. And if you are going to make those movies, you got to make them for the kind of budget that anyone but you had for those kind of

budgets. And also those are the stars you got to go for. Sydney, Sweeney and Glenn Powell appeal to the younger demographic. No offense to Channing and Scarjo, but they're in a whole other demographic where people are much more comfortable staying at home and waiting for those movies to come out. I don't see young people flocking to see a Scarjo, uh, uh, uh, Scarjo Channing Tatum movie. They'll flock to see the Scarjo Jurassic because it's Jurassic World. selling that. I'll push back down that a little bit though. Sure.

Because I think the difference between those four actors, and maybe not in a year or two from now, but as of the time when they made that movie, Scarlett Johansson and Chang Tadam cost a hell of a lot more to put in a movie than Glenn Powell and Cindy Sweeney. If Glenn Powell and Cindy Sweeney, if Glenn Powell and Cindy Swinney cost the same amount of money that Chan Tatum and Scarlett Johansson cost,

then anyone but you or anywhere, that movie was called would have been as much of a disaster as yes exactly so i think we're probably we're probably both saying the maybe the same thing because if but you can't make that movie i think uh anywhere you cost what 15 million dollars 20 million dollars whatever it did yeah yeah you if you make that if because if you made that movie for 20 million dollars flying into the moon then it makes you know 10 million this weekend it's like okay that's not great but it's not a disaster It's got a chance to make its money back. It was made for $25 million anywhere but you.

And it made $220 at the box office. Right. But like if you, I think if you put Glenn Powell and Scarlett Johansson, maybe in flood. But I mean, but then again, this is said what in the 50s, right? It's a moon landing. It's a moon landing. Oh, the moonland. It's the end of 60s, yeah.

Yeah. So how many, I mean, like how many young people are going, yeah, I want to go see Channing. That's true. That's a 1960s movie. I think that even if you put Glenn Powell and Sidney Sweeney and say, how many people want to see a moon landing movie? And I just saw people in the comments going out. This wasn't a trailer that really excited me.

And I kind of, like I said, when I went to the movie, I said, I like them. Maybe I'd like the movie. And I wouldn't really like in the movie. It's not one that I think that I would have, if I wasn't doing this, that I would go out and go see. I'd wait for it to come out on cable so I can, or cable on streaming.

So that makes sense to me. I said to say to my wife, I said, when that comes out on Apple, you should watch it. You're really going to like it. I'll wait for it when it comes out. I know. You know what comes out tomorrow on digital? What's that? Horizon.

Oh, does it? You're finally going to see it? You're finally going to see it on digital tomorrow? Tomorrow. Man. Part two is going to come out on a digital, right? They're going to hand it out in China on the streets, part two. And there's one of those doctored box DVDs.

They should have waited a little bit and then just put the whole. whole thing out there. Like a special event. Like that's actually not a bad idea. That could have been a way to go. Because you know you're going to lose it anyway. Like you put it, you, you release it on digital, you know, and then you say on HBO Max, we're premiering it. Yeah. You can't put that second movie on the theater. When we, when we talked about this in summer movie previews and all that stuff,

we're saying to you, I'm like, what a risk to put a three hour Western out. And then the other one comes out. And I said, and I can't, who is it? I said it to you, did I say to Jeff? I can't remember. I said, if that movie doesn't do well, do they definitely, I said it to Jeff. I said, do they definitely release that? He goes, ah, it's not their money to lose.

I'm like, that doesn't matter. They're not going to release that movie. Well, they definitely are released in August. They already said that. Yeah, because sometimes it's not about losing the money. It's about brand saving, right? And how much does this damage our brand to release this second movie in some stubborn pig-headed desire to get out these movies because we committed to them.

if people are attaching bad movies to your studio. And look, we all know inherently studios all have bad movies. But in the summertime, that just makes no sense. So yeah, why put it out? So when they delayed it, as we talked about last week, I wasn't surprised at all. Well, they needed to save some money for sure. And if they would have had built, they could have done it. So let me tell you about built.

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you're all better you son of a bitch is that what you're trying to say smell you from here san diego stench my swarthy fish smell from san diego oh yeah yeah yeah I've been the Italian food here. I don't know how. People kept telling me what I did. Speaking of Flaming on the Moon, I've never had so many compliments in that, in that review about people,

look at you, you look, I'm like, I've been eating pizza. I don't know. I was like, I don't know how that I still, I mean,

I think that made me because I've been walking around a lot. Yeah. Maybe losing it. But man, it's like Italian food here is no joke. I forgot how good it to the entire. It's fucking New York, of course.

What do you expect? I know, but it's like you think about it, but you just, you take it for granted until, there's a place like right here last night like we did because Brett's here right so we did this this family

meal plan that this Italian place has and it's like just over 50 bucks but you can for like it feed it says it feeds six you can feed 60 it's like all the mariner like the sauce and the chicken sauce and like

it's insane it was really good really good really good um okay so we got some more stories here and then we're we're going to make us because John's got a heart out and so do I today because we're going to try to catch his train. But we're going to talk about some of these other stories. You know what? Before I even do that, why did you give a quick plug to your channel while I go to the news right now? Yeah, if you guys want to come hang out with me on the Outlaw Nation, I'd love it. Head on over there.

YouTube.com slash John Roka says doing a bunch of things like the boys reviews, the Acolyte reviews, the House of Dragon reviews, all with the geek buddies. You get my reactions as well. Also got the Jedi Way. We just dropped our review of the Akelet over the weekend. a lot of fun with Kevin and Laura. And of course, the hot mic with me and Jeff Snyder doing our thing every week going crazy about the world of entertainment for an hour and a half and spill the tequila.

We'll be coming back this week with me and Wednesday, Marshall, might be turning into a weekly thing. And I'll tell you this, the wrestling show is coming back under a new name with Aaron Turner with Christopher Burns. So we will be back talking all wrestling every week coming soon. We're going to debut just before SummerSlam. So it's all going to be on the channel. And Christian Harloff, I can smell NFL football in the air.

So game time will be back on the channel as well. Everything's coming back to the Outlaw Nation channel. So come and hang out with us. And yeah, maybe there'll be a little other talk like the nation happening as well, considering what happened this weekend. So yeah, there'll be stuff coming down there. There's a lot going on. Yeah, I'm sure.

And like, you know, I would mention at the top, I have a couple things myself. We just started the, I started a Clips channel because. Yeah. I wonder for, because we have a lot of interviews coming in speaking of Sopranos. I said, we got, you know, A.J. Soprano himself coming on the show. Robert Eiler is coming on. We're coming in student.

Let me tell you something. I listened to his podcast with Jamie Lynn. Yeah. A great pop. When they had David Chase on it, that was a fantastic interview. Yeah, I saw the moment that he, when, when Robert Eiler asked David Chase, like, what do you think I think my best acting was in David Chase did? It's like the diner outside.

That was a great. Right outside the diner. So we'll be talking to him. and a lot of those clips will be there. So, yeah. All right. Let's get to this news story because this is one that I think is interesting to say the least. Avengers 5 loses its current writer.

There is a new report that is suggesting that the next Avengers film, a project that has already burned through a number of names has now lost its current scribe. Nexus Point News reports that Michael Waldron has parted ways with the production. News came in November last year, that Waldron, who was already set to write the sixth Avengers, will instead pen both films at the time. He replaced Ant Man and the Wasquantamania writer Jeff Loveness, who was previously attached and joined the project just weeks

after director Destin Daniel Cretton departed the film to focus on other Marvel projects as a Naruto film adaptation. The outlet didn't provide the reason for his exit, but as Waldron had been working on it for some time, if the report is accurate, it's very possible he's completed all the work required and another scribe is coming in for a final polish. Alternatively, there could be more to it than that. Either way, Marvel has plenty of time as filming on the new Avengers isn't slated to begin until March of next year.

It's rumored that up to 60 MCU characters could make an appearance in the new movie, which could be more of an ensemble piece as opposed to prior entries, which focused primarily on its small core group of heroes. The Fifth Avengers is slated to hit cinemas on May 1st, 2026. All right, John, you hear this. Would you go the more optimistic route? Do you go the what the hell's happening that you keep losing it?

Where do you go with this? It doesn't look good. It doesn't look good that they keep. I mean, now you have no director, no writer, and no villain concretely placed for this particular movie.

And you've got Comic-Con in, what, less than two weeks? So I am, I'm going to go on the side of Marvel knows what they're doing. They're dropping Waldron now quietly because they're going to make a big, a big splash announcement at Comic-Con for Avengers 5 and what they're going to be doing going

forward with the MCU. Like obviously, they're going to have a big panel there, but they need to have a gangbusters panel. So what do you do? You quietly let people go, move them off projects, because you're going to announce new people. And if they announce the Rousseau's at Comic-Con, that is massive. And so if you want to get people excited again, that's how you do it.

So to me, that's what I think maybe we're leading to because I'm being optimistic. Pessimistic means, Jesus there, just keep messing this. There's no world. There's no world. Yeah. I mean, I don't disagree with you that they should, but there's that whole report that there was apparently

they were shot down and this. I think for some reason it's over. Plus, they would, they would, they're one of the reasons where they're rumored that they didn't want to have the ruses is because they really boost up the budget in the first place, right? But plus the fact, it probably costs a lot more now these days. days in order to do it. So you're trying to scale down. And if you're having problems, but I'm going to choose to go the optimistic route with Waldron here is that I think that,

I think that maybe they're right. Maybe he finished up his work. He's like, I'm not, you know, I came into a couple of things and now I'm going to, now I'm done. So here's, right, here's what it is. I got, it's not like completely scrapped. This is what I did for you. I made it work with the stuff because he did the Loki stuff too, didn't he? Yes. I mean, it's like, he's got a good relationship with them. And he knows how the machine work. So he's like, okay, I did everything I need here. Here's, here's this. The report was that, okay, he really, like they couldn't see eye to eye. He asked him to go this particular route. He was going this way. And it just, they were, they couldn't creatively, they couldn't

figure it out or scheduling or whatever. It's like, I don't know. I kind of buy the fact that maybe he finished the work he was supposed to. And it's not. And if this was like right before it was supposed to start shooting or something, but they still have a little bit of time, they're still developing it. And this kind of stuff happens all of the time. So I'm going to going to be a little optimistic with this one. I think that they are, whether it's Blade or a lot of of the Avengers movies that are coming up, they losing directors, they're losing it. It seems like, you know, like, what am I reading? Am I reading the Star Wars report or a Marvel report? Because it's and so I'm going to, I'm going to be a little optimistic on this one, though. You are. Where do you

think they go, though? Who is out there? Do you think they could look at? There's tons of writers out there. The writer is writer. Writer director, or do you think writer's separate director? Well, I think I think you get a director that's obviously going to help with the creative process, But I think you get people that, you know, depending on what the tone is, because that's the, that's our biggest thing. We don't know what the tone of this thing is. We don't know where they're going with it. And that's another reason I'm optimistic. I think that they have a clear cut vision of where they're going with it now, as opposed to a couple of years ago, where I didn't care how many people kept telling me, oh, they know where they're going. They had no clue where they were going. And they didn't because they had, you know, what's his face? Chepeg telling them to do 75,000 different things. So they're like, oh, that one will connect to that. Somehow we'll put Shang Chi.

You put it, put an end credit scene with that. Oh, Harry Styles available. Throw him in there. Yeah, we'll use him eventually. Oh, what do we do? Now I think they actually know what they're doing. I think they have an idea of where they're going with this and leaning up because if they don't, they got major problems because even though it doesn't come out in a couple of years,

it's still a couple of years. So I do think, though, I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm just being optimistic here, but I do think that this is not one to get nervous about it. if they lose somebody else with blade again, then scrap the whole damn thing. If they hire another somebody with blade, scrap the whole damn thing and just wait on it and do blade at a different time

because that thing might just be cursed. Do you think they're opening the door for Sean Levy? Do you think they're going to announce Sean Levy at Comic-Con? He said no already. Yeah, that's what the story is, but we don't know for sure. So do you think... Nah.

Is it top and proper news last week with the Star Wars thing? Do you think they're opening the door? I think Sean Levy wants to do Star Wars, and I think Sean Levy also wants to take a break from... from Marvel and stuff. And I think that he, the difference, what I was thinking is like when he's, he's making a big,

big ass huge movie like Deadpool and Wolverine. He's doing with, he's doing with his buddy. Yeah, that's true. He's doing with his friends and he's like, and it's like once now if you're, he did such a good job and now you're hired on to this other big thing where

you don't necessarily know, Ryan rounds are going to be anywhere near it. Right. You know, it's like, now you're just kind of this hired gun and you're not doing, he's been making movies for fun lately. Yeah,

yeah, successful. His movies that he's been making. he's been making, he's having fun making them. And I think he realized, I don't know if I'm going to have fun doing this, but Star Wars, I'm going to have fun doing. I want to do it. So I think he's going to, and he might be rudely awakened when he starts getting all the

stuff. But then again, he might wind up making something that people go, finally. You know what I mean? So, so. Faloni said, where's all the cute animals? Faloni said, where's the creatures? Yeah, exactly. So, yeah.

Yeah, but I'm going to, I'm going to stay. Okay. Yeah, I'm going to stay a little optimistic. Maybe coooo. Maybe cool. Which is also possible, which is also possible. And I wouldn't, I would, I would actually love that. But the question is the same, it comes to the same thing.

It's like eventually, Coogh, I mean, Cougar's been making movies that he likes making. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he had to do, he had a, he had a really big burden, obviously that nobody wants to. And he had, you know, with, with Chavick Bozeman passing away and what he was able to do and turn it around. But the Black Panther stuff is, is very, is very. It's that, but between that and Ironheart, which I don't necessarily know needs to be a show. I think that they tried to make that character work in the movie. I don't think that she did, but he's clearly passionate about it.

So I think he's working on that one. But the same thing, does he care about an Avengers movie? I think more so X-Men would be interesting for him. Oh, yeah. That could be fascinating for sure. All right. Let's move on to one more story, and then we will get into your questions. Let's do it.

I got a few questions. Let's do it. Questions. Let's do this Terminator thing, man. Okay. Did you watch the Terminator? You watched like three trailer, three times this trailer. Hold on,

I'm trying to tell my wife I actually do have a screen. I'm trying to understand the trailer. Like, yeah, it's from the same company that did Godzilla minus one, I think. And so, obviously not live action, but fascinating in Zoe Kravitz. Good voiceover. Was there Zoe Kravitz? I thought it was Rosario Dawson. Is it Rosario? No, I thought it was Zoe.

You, you, I mean, again, you're probably right. Anyway, so this is a trailer. I didn't even know was coming out. I didn't know they were making an animated series. And I saw this and I said, this looks like, looks like you're right. Is Rosario or Sonaya Mizuno? I don't know which one it was.

Okay. All right. Well, it looked good. Yeah. I liked that this is a good style for this movie. It really is. It does make me upset in a way because I'm like, it just, well, but not the trailer itself, but like the idea that you can, you can, this, this story is still ripe for, for real stuff.

Like you can make it dark. You can make it work. You can make good stories out of it. You can bring emotion out of it. And you don't have to do this highfalutin, over the top, you know, freaking $200 million dollar Terminator movie that and I know that you and I are a little different on the, the, you like Terminator 2 better than one and most people do. I like one better because I like the simplicity of it.

I like the idea, yes, I don't disagree with you that if you go, if you watch it now, here's an example. It is dated in the special effects, obviously, but it was also the catalyst for a lot of the special effects that we have now. True. But I showed the Terminator, the first movie, to my 12-year-old, right? I used to see. Now, the funny thing is to validate your point, the scene at the end when there's like, you know, he's coming out of the junk heap, the Terminator, which terrified of. She laughed and said, that looks ridiculous, right? But she loved the movie.

She looked at the movie itself and thought that the movie itself, and she didn't finish Terminator 2. I couldn't believe it. Wow. Yeah, I know. Not that she was, I don't know if she was, she just didn't want to finish it. I don't know why. But I think Terminator 2 is a great movie. I like the idea, and this is coming from someone who's more of an action fan than a horror fan. I thought that the first movie is more of a horror science fiction film that really works. And that's what I got. I got the vibe out of that in this animation trailer. Really, I'm hoping that they will, someone will knock some sense into somebody and show

like because Terminator is a property that you can do exactly what you were talking about before with the anywhere anyone but you types scenario yeah yeah just find a couple up-and-comers you know and make a small 40 million dollar terminator movie yeah yeah it can totally work doing that way i mean look look at how uh look how pray did right and i don't know we reference pray all the time but it's it's valid what happened the style they went down the approach they had there they as you said they paled it down they scale we don't need the massive explosions also the thing that we fell in love with is the first movie. And so going back to the spirit of that, because we've gone so far out, it makes it somehow unique to go all the way back at the beginning, just

strip it down and go back to the basics. People will love it because the story itself and the characters are of interest, you know? A hundred percent. So I ask you guys, so what do you think about all of this? Do you think that Terminator, do you think it was a good, do you think it was a good trailer? Did you think that it works? Let me know. I want to know exactly what you're thinking. Please and thank you. And now we're going to get to your questions because you guys have a lot of questions. We're going to answer them.

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The pizza, because he's in New York, I'm not sure, but a pizza is unreal. Yes, it is. I was on the lookout for that balsamic slice, but no dice.

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and Lee Louie is the best needs. Hilarious. So funny, in the office space that I'm in now. Yeah. Someone was like, there was like a company, like email that went out about,

like, oh, please, no smoking in the, near the buildings or whatever, too. And I saw someone smoking a doobie or something, right? But they were like, look at me. I'm like, you're the new guy. I'm trying to interview people over here. I'm smoking dubies in the table.

The other one wearing a hoodie. That's true. Where's the dobs? Where's the dobs? I get blamed for dubies already. Look over for like two weeks. Johnny, venerable. Sounds like we're getting some major cameos in the act life finale.

Oh, really? Plague of Serenabras is my guest. Maybe Yoda shows up. Your prediction. I didn't know about the cameos. Did you know? Is that, is that tonight?

No, it's tomorrow. Tomorrow. How can Plagueus be a cameo if we don't know, Plague us in real life action? Well, I mean, maybe reveals more so,

but yeah, I know, I know what you say, but I think that, um, if it's going to be a cameo, it's got to be, it's got to be Yoda.

I mean, that's the only cameo. The only cameo, I mean, the cameo wise, but if it's like reveals, I mean, I don't know,

like Darth Revin, freaking, uh, hologram or something, but it's like, I don't, I mean, I hate to say it because every time I talk about this show, I seem like, you know, I'm just like pooing it,

but it's, I don't want them to waste any of that stuff on this show. Yeah. Yeah. Why would you do it right at the tail end of this show? You know what I'm saying? This show isn't even about the sit. It's about two twins that no one gives a shit about. That's what it's about. So it's like, you know, don't start throwing stuff in there.

He's like, well, no, no, season two. That's what season two is going to be about. No season two. No season two of this show. I know. When she mentioned season two in an interview, I was like, what? It's like they're not, it's like, they're not living in reality.

It's like you can't, I think that's the problem because there are so many people who legitimately are just like hate mongering morons, right? There really are a lot of people. And so you can lie back on the excuse of all those. That's everybody who doesn't like it. That's not the case with this show. Right.

No, there's a lot. There's so many like real people, real criticisms on this show. And they're ignoring it saying, no, no, no, it's only, it's only the hate mongering morons. It's not, guys. It really is. All right. We did that one.

Okay. So as far as, as far as cameos and stuff, too, I don't know. I don't know. Yota would be the only one, but does Luke show up at the end? To save them all?

I don't know. I don't know. Who needs? Perfect. Mike Joyce, would you agree that the online reaction to the Acklead shows, shows Star Wars fans only want simple stories? No, I don't agree with that at all. Nothing beyond Jedi Sith,

good, Sith bad? No, I don't agree with that at all. that's I think that there's I think that the online reaction shows that people want good writing I think once like because I think that and or is yeah a simple story at all and I think that there's a lot of people who love that show and and I think that there's it's you can treat this stuff with more than just kid gloves and I think that they haven't done that and I think the writing is the writing has been super lackluster on these shows but no I don't agree with that at all. Yeah, it's nonsense. Yeah. Mike Jones? The amount of vitriol directed towards the

accolid scenes excessive to me. That's, that's understood. What's a show or movie that you felt got an unnecessary amount of hate? Hmm, what's a show or a movie that you felt? Oh, Richard Jewell. I thought Richard Jewell. That could hate? Yes. Oh, my God. From the liberals, from the liberal critics who were so upset about the film because it was Clint Eastwood directing it. They were like, it's still yours then. They were, like a reporter would never sleep anybody for their sources. How dare you insinuate? The fuck, we live in the real world, man.

You know, and so watching people go after, and that was an excellent film. I thought Paul Walter Hazard was excellent in that. And Kathy Bates, everybody involved in it was, Sam Rockwell was devastatingly great movie. I like the movie. I think it's one of the best Eastwood films he's ever directed.

And everybody went after it because there was, oh, it's a right wing point of view. And, oh, it's, you know, turning the turning the reporter into war no she slept she used what she to get information people do it all the time mail reporters have done it so give me a break so yeah i thought yeah well i'm always i'm so bad at the on-the-spot questions every time someone asked me like i'd like i just not great with it by thinking about it because i like oh yeah so i'll be like i'll be on the train later going oh i should have said that ball still johns simon section i don't know about you guys but i'm eager

to see if there's any youtube conspiracy showing parallels between the cap four trailer and incident that happened in Pennsylvania. Ross looks okay. I don't know. I mean, that's a tough one for us to even go down that road. Not to show for that. No. For sure. Not as far as that goes. The answer to your question is, will someone have a video about it? People have videos about everything. Yeah, true. Yeah. So, so maybe. But thank you for the question. Shane, Mark. Well, oh man, I'm fired up today, boys. I hope you're happy and healthy. I wish you the best. Thank you, Shay. You're always very, very kind and always a person who comes in every single damn time with with questions and and support so thank you and you

follow it up not claiming this man is the saint but i believe that amens is the second most level headed character on house the dragon he's never harmed anyone who didn't harm him first he just chills and is loyal to one woman i don't disagree with you that he's level headed i think that he's he's a lunatic i think that he is emotion heavy that he reacts on his emotions though but even though he does go after someone to people who harm him his reaction when he does yeah he he like he's got pure strategy he's he's way more dangerous than most of the characters demon knows it himself so i agree with what you're saying he is he is he is pretty pretty level-headed he's just but when he's not he's super dangerous yeah which is what alison is afraid of as you saw in the episode this weekend so we who knows where

it's going to lead you know they may get what they want it but they may not like what they get when it's all said it does make me upset though i'll tell you this that's what you're When you look at like the Acklite where you have these conversations where, as Mike Choice pointed out, where there's all this conversation about it, whether good or bad about Ackleite. Sure. And then it seems like season two, a House of the Drag. Season one, everyone was talking about. This isn't somebody anybody's talking about this show this evening.

Right? Am I wrong? For The Ackleit? No, for House of the Dragon. I'm saying you get all this stuff for Ackleid, people are talking about whether it's good or bad. Everybody's saying about the Akelet. But then you get House to the Dragon, it doesn't seem like anybody's talking. talking about it. Well, I think, I think it's, it came back with an underperforming first episode.

And I think people are just kind of, I mean, like honestly, Christian, there's been so much TV this in June and July. And I just think people are overwhelmed. And I think there are people talk. I think the amount of people talking about is growing week to week. Certainly what you pointed out earlier in that the bigger episodes like the Wang Bang Action episodes are getting more traction. But people are coming around to the other ones later on in the week when there's not as much action. Yeah, it's weird. Art. Shachramaya.

Without previously on and credits, we have about 37 minutes left in Acolyte. Yeah, I don't think they'll either be rushed or we still have questions left after it ends. Yeah, it really depends if this is why I think that, and this is not just the Ackleys fall, I think a lot of shows do this, where they just have so much confidence in their show that they just assume they're getting. a season two and that the audience is going to want to season two so they leave all this stuff always make your first season like it's your last season yeah unless you have a guarantee right away that you're getting season two or season three like you know like just because end it where it's like maybe but for the most part it's over and if they yeah like shoga yeah if you have this show where by the end of it you're going wait what and and as he points out you're getting like a 37

minute actual sandwich with the actual meat i don't know i don't know i don't know what they can do in 37 minutes to to really answer any questions yeah yeah i like what a galaxy geeks just posted they should have released house the dragon in the fall that's actually a really excellent point yeah i wonder if it would have gotten more traction because that's like kind of when people are focused on more art house type fair and i wonder if would have gotten that kind of reaction yeah would you consider house the dragon an art house? Fuck, yes, I would. Really? Oh, yeah. The direction, the writing, the

cinematography, the amount of money they spend on the sets, and the concepts they're tackling, very art house within the conversations. I mean, the script itself. Okay. Simon's section, all right, Peter Shannon Doherty. Our house 902, our house 902 and O charmed.

I was an extra on the TV show, Charmed, a guard frozen in time. I saw her talking about yoga. Awesome. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you know what's funny is I didn't, even though everyone thinks 902 and 0, do you know the first thing I thought of when I started thinking about her? Mallrats? 100%.

Yeah, ditto. 100%. I was saying mallrats. Even when Ethan Superidge has the ancestor, Brenda, and she did. That was great. So good. Matt Sinisterner-R-Cal,

glad your sponsors better help because I'll know I need it after this season of McAleigh. Oh, hello. Disney needs to hire Arnold. He has more knowledge in the mouse. They would never. They would never. You couldn't do it. I would lose my mind.

Yeah, people come after you like crazy for it. I would do, I would probably, if I was allowed to do one project and work on one project, I would try to get, I would try to get a Darth Bain miniseries series. That's, or Darth Plagueis miniseries. I would try to get those two. And if I can get those off the ground, I'd work on them and retire. Then everybody would make videos about what's Harlow doing? This ain't plague.

Not my Plagueis, hashtag. I got the Galaxy's Edge guy to do it. What's next? Darth Archie. Hey, Harloff. Hey, Roka. Hope all is well. Interested to see how Mackeycap fights Red Hulk.

no superpowers thoughts i mean you know they can they can make it work somehow you know the batman's fought people before they who had super power so they can make it work if they had the right technology i see a hurricane helms almost beat the rock so you never know what can happen he never know what can happen in fights yeah uh but i don't know do you have any but you have any thought on that how they can make that work probably the technology that he's fighting people are assuming that he's the hulk like the incredible Hulk but he's not the red Hulk is a different Hulk than the Incredible Hulk, different powers, different strength, different, all that. Even the size of him in those shots, isn't the same size as the Incredible Hulk.

So it's a different approach to it. So it all depends. And why are you assuming they're fighting each other? We don't know what they're doing. They may have the initial fight with each other, but then realize they're on the same size. So we have no idea. Happy Monday, everybody. Christian, if anything, I hope this gets a laugh out of you.

How much will it take you to call McCuga to ask him if he's going to introduce his daughter to Zubliu. Because they don't do that anymore, it's going to be a high price. I'm going to go to $200 super chat. Wow. Yeah, that's how, I'm staking it high. It goes, I don't even have my phone on me. I mean, I'd have to find my phone.

I do that. So, and, and there's no guarantee he's going to pick up. So it's, it's a risky, risky super chat. Okay. So we keep on going down the line here. Okay. And we got our, it wouldn't be a show without Carl. Hey.

London calling over, over under 50%. The Despicable Me 4 also makes a billion dollars alongside Inside Inside Out, too. It's 437 as a, today who will win well inside out too is going to be despicable me i don't i don't think there's a chance that uh despicable yeah i don't think there's a chance to speakable me can go um do i think it can make a billion dollars i think it could but i'm not i'm not as sure anymore yeah i think it could tap out around 800 to 900 but i wouldn't be shocked if it did yeah i say under under 50 that it goes over a billion yeah i think it's starting to

i think the next couple of weeks it'll flame out i think it won't just be as big Yeah. I mean, there isn't a lot of stuff for kids to see right now. So you still have that and you're still not going to have anything for kids to see. But I don't know. Shea comes back in. Hey. Amon has shown more diplomacy as a child than Rennar did in her entire life. I feel for Allison, but she has done no better.

She should have done a better job raising her weird and tortured kids. They're all incest weirdos. What diplomacy? He set his brother on fire. What are you talking about? Yeah. Well, what is your idea of diploma? Markwell, do you have any brothers, sisters?

They should be worried about you if you think that's diplomacy for God says. Maybe. Kay Peterson, I just went to the Hollywood Bowl concert last week. I bummed John Williams was ill, but I still had a blast. Thanks for the recommendation. I'm wanting to go since I heard you guys talk about it so much. So did he, did he perform and he just was ill? No, maybe he was ill and just didn't show up.

They announced it before the show. I don't remember. I don't know. So we don't know how performed? I mean, the Hollywood Bowls, that is a place that is just a wonderful place to watch concerts. It's so peaceful. Shea comes in again. All hail the one true king, Eam and Targary.

This is the hell I will die on my friend. Sorry for blowing up the Super Chat. I love you. Don't apologize for that. But I will tell you that, look, I think Amos is a great character. I hate his guts, but I really, I really, I think he's a great character. So I think that even last night watching that particular scene. of watching the powers at B decide who's going to run the shop.

That was the thing. I was probably the most vocal in my reaction. Yeah. Yeah. Daniel Breen, did Brett get his barata slice? Yes, of course he did. It was like the first thing. He wouldn't start working until he got his barata slice. He caused a fit.

Okay. Excalibur. My wife and I watched Dark Matter based on your recommendation. Would you consider doing a review for it? I haven't seen much coverage. Thanks. I think that if I was going to do a review on it, it would probably be during like an episode of this, you know,

like where I would do a full episode because it's just especially now I mean if house of the dragon is I barely pulling in 1.5,000 views on it and I'll tell you that Samarrell interview which I love that interview and what a cross conversation that interview barely even hit 3,000 views these people do not everyone always asked me what do you bring the interviews back bring the interviews back they're on the channel yeah yeah I'm trying to get me I'm trying to keep you and I'm just going though now. I'm not doing what I did the last time where I'm like, ah, they're not watching. I'm just, I want to do interviews. I love doing interviews. I'm going to keep doing them.

Yeah. But dark matter is tough because I just don't think at this point that people would watch it. So I'll probably do it on a, you know, on one of the longer episodes. Do you have the YouTube subscription thing on your, on your channels or no? What do you mean? It's just like,

you know, you can get people to subscribe to you. You mean the, the, what's it called? Memberships. Yeah, the memberships. Because then you can do like a five-minute review of it. Yeah, I think they're going to do, we're doing memberships. We're going to start, we're doing memberships on Down Earth. We're going to start it in August on the second channel. And then

if that turns out to be a success, we might start, we might try to do it on this channel. Cool. Darth Archie, guys, if the strangers, master is the fart sniff and shit rat that I'm back on board with the Disney Star Wars. Fair enough. Thank you, Archie. I always chiming in with something. Oh, Archie.

Oh, Archie. Hey, fellows, I already asked Christian this, but I'm curious. John, if you've ever seen Mayor of Kingstown or interview with the vampire on AMC in my opinion two of the best written character driven shows on TV he likes both of those I do like mayor of Kingston that's a great that's a roca show interview with the vampire little bit out of Roka's wheelhouse so I have not seen that one but I certainly have enjoyed mayor of Kingston renter is great on that show um Kay and Mooney yeah thank you very very kind of you is that yeah it was just me I put it in for myself

just give myself some self-motivation no I mean is Is that Keanu Mundi? How old are you, Keiari? For real. I know. Mad Sinister McAllen, name a character outside of House of the Dragon that you like to see become a dragon rider. My pick is Fred Sienner. I was waiting.

Madsister McHale always comes in with like a banger of a joke. Maybe he's into him. He's like not a joke. It's serious. I'd like to see the late great Peewey Herman. Hey, come on now. Who? Oh, Mrs.

Garrett would be going too. Oh my God. Nice. Is that Brett? Nice. Yeah, he's working in the other room. But, uh, Mrs.

Garrett's go, where were you, John? Who would you pick? Ride a dragon? He, Mrs. Garrett's ridden a few dragons. You know,

talking about it. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'll, I'll come back. Mirror domains. Lou Diamond Phillips said there's a great script

for Young Guns 3. He said it's on Rosenbaum's. Oh, yeah. I saw that. Yes. Placing them at the age they are today. Oh, yeah. I should probably showcase that.

Um, as from mirror demands. How would that work? Young Guns 2 is a great Western. I don't know how they'll work is Luke, Lou Diamond Phillips died in the movie in the second one. He's died in both movies. No, he didn't die in the, wait, no, he didn't die in the first movie.

Oh, he escaped in the last movie. No, he escaped in the first one. He died in the second one, but everybody died in it. He went off into the spirit realm with his people. We don't know if he died. That's true. It looked like he died, but I mean, well, it looked like, I mean, well,

clearly Charlie Sheen's dead. He for Sullivan is dead. Yeah. Did you see Emilio on Bratz on the documentary? He's not rushing back to do anything anytime soon. I'd be shocked if they did any kind of script. I don't think that's going to happen. Unless they did say, but that's again,

this goes back to our earlier conversation. Do it for nothing and put it on streaming. Sure, why not? You know, look what they do with Beverly Hills Copp. Although that means cost a lot of money. A hundred and something million dollars that cost a lot of money. But that was a, that investment paid off for them because of what they were, what they were aiming for, they hit.

Yeah. I mean, the rodeo chasing alone was probably half the Talia Barless. Do you think Horizon would have done a little better with more bankable stars? I know stars don't sell tickets, but might have done better. Nah, I don't think so. I don't think that it would, it would probably put it more in the, in, in, in problems, more than the red. It would have been, it would have been, because you would have had bigger budget from a ready big budget movie. it's the Western three-hour

and it's mixed reviews. Yeah, mixed reviews. That killed it. That's what killed it. Look, Fagai had bankable stars up the ying-yang. It didn't make the money and was just a good review. That also had good reviews and still didn't. Yeah, so I don't know. I don't know. Jesus Fernandez, do you think Twisters is a shot at being a hit

considering the budget's $200 million? It releases this past here in Mexico and it's a super fun summer flick, but that budget scares me. Budget definitely scares me. Hearing good things about it, Hearing really good things about it. I'm going to have my out of the theater reaction just a few hours here. But yeah, it's a risk, especially with Deadpool coming out next week.

So it is a risk, total risk. It's got a shot to do really well, though, because I think it's alternate programming to the superhero movie. And it's got a kind of old school. Yeah. Do you think it's got a shot, John? Oh, yeah, I think he's got a shot to make a billion dollars. Come on, put it on the table. I'll put it on the table right now.

Fuck, that sucks, man. Tomorrow's the finale and Twister. Yeah, Darth Archie. I feel for Disney and their league problem. I got one too. I have to hold my league till Christmas. And Harlow's putting out as yard decoration. I know you're coming.

I know you're going to make the trip to New York, Archie. You scumback. I know he will. A rat dog. Well, I still don't blame the owner. I don't blame Archie. And Archie always comes in and gives a super chat. So I can't get two men or Archie.

Maybe he feels bad for pissing on the bag. Captain Stubing, riding a dragon. That would be awesome. You figured it out. Eric Krempa, the Chance Cube guy from the O-Town-Schmo down again. Oh, what's that? I know you two hate this question on the spot.

But why doesn't anyone put Fincher on the best director list? I mean, I think he's got a one of, he's on the list. I think he's on the list. Yeah, why wouldn't he be on the list? I mean, the stuff that he, I always get it. I still got, I get very excited for Fincher movies. Is that the last one with Fastbender was fine? But I get excited for his movies.

Yeah, the hit. Hitman or whatever was called. Yeah. I guess not a hitman, but it was about a hitman, but something like that. Kill list. I don't know. The killer, yeah, the killer. It was based off that comic book.

Right. I would say people put him in the conversation. I don't think he comes up as much now because he hasn't been as relevant. Yeah. The other directors, but I think people are dying would kill for a season three of mine hunter. True. And, you know, and I was watching Zodiac again the other night. Fucking great.

Oh, good. Hey, fellas. It's Scalgoose. What's that about? Always. Been a while just some dropping some love and support. Much appreciate it. Cheers. Studios looking good so far. Thank you. Yeah. Brett's doing a really good job. We're going to do a full tour of it once it's up and ready to go. But I mean, by tomorrow we're going to be in pretty good shape because that's when

our Isle is coming in. So hopefully everything's looking pretty good. The Raven effect, Joy mode is good for your joystick. Hell yeah. That's right. Got it's working out. Okay. Bam 86. In my opinion, pray is the coolest-looking predator. in the franchise's history. What's your favorite predators on? I got to go with the original. I can't, I can't fall to the original. Your first original, but I did like

Pray. Pray was to me a great example of the way that they should be making these movies in the future. Yeah. Good design, too. Yeah. Gallagos. Next, House of Dragon, episode is titled How to Train Your Dragon. Is it really, though? I wouldn't be

surprised if it is. Hank Pim, coming in hot. The Baddest Woman in Human History, has returned. Mammy is back. That's right. She came back. Um, this is a wrestling thing, guys. Yeah. Hope it's a squash match. It's SummerSlam. I'm scared. Don may screw her and Live retains. I kind of hope that happens. That will happen. I hope it does. She just got back. You don't want to put the strap on her that quickly and you were just getting things going with live. So give her a chase. You ever chase. Yeah, let her have a chase. She comes back and gets it right

away. It's like, and then who's her competition? She's going to be beat. Let her and live fight it out for a little bit because I'm I'm not with you I think live I think live is great and live is a great heel I think she's doing old school stuff with what the way that almost like that stuff she's doing with Don right now is working um yeah I'm I'm I'm digging and I definitely hope Dom screws over Ria and winds up well I love the storyline they're playing with in that when in that live is lifting him up but Ria was messing with his confidence so if you play with that story and every dude's been with someone who mess with their confidence and someone who actually uplifts them. And so I think there's a way to play there that works really well.

It just depends on where you're going. Are you trying to set Ria up as the villain as the heel or you want live to be the heel? So you've got to decide where you're going with that. You can't be. No one's going. It's like when I tried to turn, like when Marisol McKee was the bad guy. Yeah.

And then she started like, she started winning and she won the title. And I remember going, I can't. No one's going to boo her. I don't care what she, what she does. What I do? What story relying on right? No one's going to boo her. No one's going to boo.

It's like trying to turn Chandru into a face. You just can't do it. You see it at 100%. Nobody's going to, nobody's going to boo Maria Ripley. So you got to go with love. Okay. Simon section.

Mr. Rokke, I'm eagerly awaiting your reaction to the boys' season, episode seven. Yeah. I'm dropping it today. So look for that a little bit later on tonight. Because I'm dropping the other one, the fucking house of dragon person.

Sorry, because it's so much. Sorry, sorry. Poot, shoot, Ryan. Have you guys ever watched Freaked? I hear good things. I haven't seen it, though. Such a weird but awesome flick director

to buy in stars, Alex Winters, and all star cast. That's the Vince Vaughn one, right? Oh, I guess. I've never snorty. Yeah, I heard it was... Oh, freaky.

Are you talking Freaky, the Vince Vaughn-Kethon, and Catherine Newton one? Oh, you know, that's what I brought up. I don't know what Freak is. I'm not sure what that is. Uh, Excalibur. Can I get Yel's pitch for the story

if you were hired to write the Star Wars sequel trilogy? I don't know as much of a story, but what I can tell you is that I would have definitely gone with transitioning. Give the episode seven to the old cast and let us get Leah, Luke, and Haunt together in one story together. And then transfer it over and let them all like start with the three of them together. And then they start breaking off all three on different adventures with different new characters. Yep. And start planning.

And don't rehash the Death Star. Don't rehash all this stuff. And like let them have their own adventures. show what the world is and all these different things. And it would be more so eventually letting them hand over, you know, the, pass the torch to new people. So that's, that's what I would do. I would have them explain why Kylo is so upset.

I would have them explain what that issue was. But I agree with what you're saying. I think it would have been great to have a two-hander cast of crew, cast and cast, where I'm saying. One side is all the old cast getting together. We have a storyline for them. the young cast getting together, we have a storyline for them, and then it intersects halfway through the second movie,

and then boom, you set things up for the third movie, and all of them know their respective spots. The greatest mistake they made was to not do any scenes with the three of them actually in the same room together. I don't know how that passed logic in any way, shape, or form. Yeah, didn't make sense. Okay, and then Armada, Finstock and Frank Stallone is the new heads of Lucasfilm?

Sure. At this point, can't get any worse. Let's, let's see. So Talia Barlow, Godfather Part 4. What's become of the five families? And who knows? I'm surprised there's no, there's no website that gives you a breakdown. I'm sure there is.

Yeah. The Mad Sinisterner McCall. Horror Special's plan for October for the big thing. I don't know. Maybe we'll do like a Halloween thing. I'm not sure yet. It's still kind of, you know, developing. Hank Pym, will priest beat Gunther?

No chance in hell. No, Gunther will be the heavyweight champion. I don't know. I think that if it wasn't going to happen before, the botch pretty cemented it. Ooh, good point. Good point. Possibly. I think, I think Damien's a good side character.

He's not, he's not main event level. Not yet. He may turn into that. Maybe. He's still, he's not bad. But he's like, he's not, I mean, if you have an opportunity to put the strap on country you put it on um screwfish john what's up hey i've seen you and why how you doing actually it was here last week but uh i've had to bring him back on the show i'm honest christian i

don't think there was enough brett painted on this live your comment by the way was hilarious he said that uh screwfish john said that uh that i think it was really nice that brett you brett like christian you know uh be on his show his painting show talking about movies um but yeah brett's right now brett's done with painting is done now now now brett's hanging shit Let's doing a Bob Ross show would be hilarious. Yeah, it would be. My wife was, was, like, really on Brett last night to start his own, like, handyman business. You should.

He should. That's what she told him last night. He didn't mean, YouTube business. Do you know? Not doing it. No, but just like, I mean, he can make a killing in L.A. if he wanted to. Simon's section. Regardless of how well or bad the Ackleine ends, your guys' first reaction to the Skeleton

crew teaser may or may not break me. I like the old man. I'm excited for that. Well, I'm looking forward to that show because. of the old man, because of Watts, and because you're not going to like that show because you don't like Goonies. It's going to be like Goonies meet stranger things. I am not looking for to Skeleton. It's not for you. Sohan, can we have a conversation, conversation about ticket prices? We love to blame theaters. They can't charge less because they lose money. People can't go because it's too

expensive. Studio says people don't show up so it's risky. What is the solution? I think, well, I think part of the solution is cutting the budgets because they're trying to make money back through that. I think you can lower ticket prices. I don't think you can lower concessions, because that's really where you make the money, but it's like this concession, I, dude, I went to this where I am, where I'm living. There's like three AMCs around here, right? There's, but everyone says, go to this one because it's the only one that is like up to date. Yeah. So I go to this one that's not because it was, because I went to take my kids to the despicable me screening and it was like, nobody was in there. And it's one of the reasons why I

wanted to go. Maybe there was, there was half full. The other, the big, the good theater was sold out. So we go and I'm like, okay, it's very like early 2000s. They haven't probably kept up with it since then. So I'm like, okay, the water bottle is probably less, right? Nine dollar water bottle. And I'm like, not here. I'm like, you can't do that. You can't be like, I understand if I'm going to a really good movie theater and you're going to inflate the prices. Okay. I'm getting this around. I'm getting the big screen. Not this piece of shit. give me that water bottle for free because I came into this deal. And so I said to them, I said to them, you guys going to do my taxes after I pay for this?

And she's like, she's like, no, but we're going to charge you nine bucks. Okay, great. Anyway, Mike, Joyce, now that wall is done, we'll paint himself. Maybe, maybe. You know, the next thing we're going to do is hang those, we got a lot of different pictures, a lot of the ones that were behind me beforehand, but we printed out a bunch of other ones. So we're going to put that up there next. Late night alum.

If Austin Theory turns face, how over will he be? He's got a good shot, Roker, right? Oh, yeah, I think so. Yeah, if they play it outright, he'd be like the Mizz. He's just like the Mizz. Yeah. You can essentially track him like you track the Mitz. Yeah.

Face or Heel? Uh, Poochut, Ryan. Any chance to chat with Griffin Eumes? Yeah, I actually, I reached out to Griffin, uh, I think about a couple weeks ago and asked him if he would want to come into studio. And he said, yes, so we just have to figure out when that is. And I haven't really, my goal was, I have a list of people in New York that I'm going to start making like a real push to once. What I didn't want to do is put more pressure on Brett.

Like, hey, I put, I have this person that's coming in now. Can the studio be done? Can the studio be done? I'm letting him work at his own pace because it's only going to be here for so long. Right. And then I'm going to start having people in. Yeah. In stock exchanges, Griffin, Newman.

That's right. That's right. Call me Java. Before the Last Jedi, flashbacks have never been used in live action Star Wars. Do you think that might be a big flaw of acolyte trying to copy a story? storytelling technique from the most divisive Star Wars film? No, you take a shot doing. I don't think, I mean, technique, I mean, I wouldn't say Last Jedi is the beacon of, you know, flashbacks.

What do you think, John? It's not a flashback. That's, I'm trying to get people to understand that. The Ackleke did not use a flashback. No one was having a modern day scene and then remembered something from, no, it's a completely different episode encapsulated in its own, encapsulated by, within itself. So both of those episodes are not flashback episodes. Those are straight episodes from a different time in the story. So there was a flashback in Last Jedi when he's thinking about

that thing. But I agree. It's not a flashback episode. A hundred percent when you say that. I mean, I didn't really even think about it, but hearing you say it, I agree with you 100%. Okay. Mallory Garrett, not movie related, but the husband and I are wanting to add another little one to our family. Christian, do you have words of wisdom for me as a fellow parent going from one to two kids. Well, Mallory, well, the advice for you would come from my wife, you know, as the one, as the one, because I don't want to pretend that me and your husband are the ones because we're not going through it. We're going through it in a way where, you know, we're going to be there for you. We're going to support you and all that and anything

you need type situation. But it also, it's a matter of what's right for you guys. And where, when, because if you're going to, you're going to add, and I also don't, and I don't expect didn't tell me, but I don't know how old you are. I don't know, like, these things, like there are certain times, certain people, like, in their early 20s, they, like, I'm going to have four or five and they, they pop them out, they do this, three, whatever it might be. Then there's other people that you might be, I know people who are, like, our good friend Mark Riley is, is, is 50 years old, just had, just, just, it's had his first.

So it's like, it's a matter of planning and it's like you, and even when I say that, I remember when, when I had we had the first one I remember telling me or Jettick and my wife and I were where we didn't know the time was right she said yeah you never know when the time is right you just you just you feel it and then it's it's and that's that's really what it is but as far as and I don't know how old your your first is but it's like it's I have like a five and a half year difference between my two kids and there's a lot of different things I could tell you inside of the advice and the not advice but it's just you'll know and you take the things that you learn with with the first and you implement that with the second um what do you say john you

have no kids right you're not as precious with the second one as you are with the first make sure they have a good relationship with each other that's super important that's true make sure you can financially support a second child as well that's another part of it all um but yeah watch the second child because you want to make sure the second child doesn't grow up with a bitterness or a jealousy or an envy of the first child because that happens. So it's more than the opposite side of that is like I can tell you that the second kid usually gets a lot of attention. Yes, right where the where the first goes, hey, wait a minute, what about me? Remember me? And it's just because, yeah, it's a lot of upkeep.

Yeah. Anyway, all right, listen, thanks for joining us here today. Really appreciate it. Thank you for all the wonderful super chats and questions. Um, all right, John, uh, you told us once before. Tell us again, where can they find me at the roca says on twitter instagram and ticot and my youtube channel youtube dot com slash john roca says we talk about everything going on the world of entertainment politics sports pro wrestling it's all there on my channel the hot mic the jenni way uh spill the tequila now geek buddies my stuff and uh what else oh yeah and coming soon we'll be coming back with the wrestling shows come and subscribe youtube dot com slash john roca says christian thanks and thanks to thanks to everybody great seeing you guys on monday bye

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