The Kristian Harloff Show - LEAKED Jellyfish UFO breakdown, New Hearings coming and revisiting the Miami Mall Incident

Episode Date: January 16, 2024

HOSTINGER: Use code BIGTHING to get 10% off your Hostinger plan today: https://hostinger.com/bigthing So much happening in the world of UAP news. The major senators leading the charge for UFO transparency met in a SCIF last week and some promising news came out of it. It does seem as if we will get anotehr hearing. Who will testify? How many new whistleblowers will speak? We discuss Tim Burchett's comments about how he is keeping those names close to the vest after accusations that NASA swayed past whistleblowers from coming forward. The UAP Jellyfish has been making the rounds since it appeared in the TMZ Jeremy Corbell documentary. The leaked video form 2018 in Iraq is causing a lot of conversation. What is it? Will we ever see the rest of the video where it supposedly shot out of the water? Finaly we revisit the Miami Mall incident. What could it have been? Thanks for joing Kristian Harloff, Mark Reilly and special guest Attack Peter on Big Thing UAP Tuesday!  #ufo #uap #alien #news #jellyfish #jellyfishufo #transparency #disclosure #government OUR SPONSORS: BETTERHELP This episode is sponsored by/brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at http://www.betterhelp.com/BIGTHING and get on your way to being your best self. MAGIC SPOON: Go to http://www.magicspoon.com/BIGTHING  to grab a variety pack and try it today! And be sure to use our promo code BIGTHING at checkout to save five dollars off your order! BLUE CHEW: Try BlueChew FREE when you use our promo code BIGTHING at checkout--just pay $5 shipping. That's http://www.BlueChew.com Promo code BIGTHING to receive your first month FREE. Visit http://www.BlueChew.com for more details and important safety information, and we thank BlueChew for sponsoring the podcast. MANSCAPED: http://www.Manscaped.com CODE: BIGTHING PATREON: Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-... FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls...

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It just keeps coming. They said there's going to be more information coming out in the beginning of 2024. And they're like, how much more? A lot. A lot. We have just a few different topics to talk about. today, but we'll probably talk about them for like an hour and a half. I told both Riley and Peter today to buckle up because we're going to be talking for quite a while today. Well, if you're here, first of all, all the stuff we're going to talk about, whether it's the UAP, the jellyfish video that's been going around, obviously the news of all the senators going into the skiff and getting information, some people feel like there was actual progress

made. Most felt like there was kind of progress made. And our buddy Burchett was still very, very skeptical. So we'll talk about what it actually means. I think they all agreed, though, that there's going to be another hearing. And how important that is, and how Burchett won't give up the names of the witnesses this time, because he said last time he did that, they were contacted and told not to show up by NASA. And he's not making that mistake. time. So who the hell could those people be that are going to come in and how significant

will it be and when will it happen? So we'll get into that for sure. We'll talk about, again, that jellyfish UAP has been making its rounds and all over the place. And a lot of different people have been covering it. And it was featured in the TMZ doc produced by both German Corbell and George Knapp, I believe. And we'll break that down because a lot of people are talking about it. A lot of people are confused about it. Some people think it's real. Some people think that it's still, there's, it's, most everybody thinks it's real, but the question is what is it?

And people have difference of opinion, especially on this panel. So we'll get into that. And there's more stuff too. Like there's, um, there's an actual Marine who talked about that UAP and that, that old potential UAP, the jellyfish and what it could be. And then Ross Colhart got sent something that not two days later that there was, was another jellyfish type siting, and TechPeter had sent me something that the jellyfish ones have been being seen since like the 50s. And there's a report in like 1954 or something.

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It's UAP Tuesday on The Big Thing. Trying to figure out what is going on in the world, in the sky, in the ocean. What is happening? I'm Christian Harlow, joined, as always, by my buddy, partner in crime, Mark Yodius Riley. What a show. What a day.

There's a lot going on. There is so much going on. I'm happy to be here as always, Christian. It's good to have you. And we've had some great special guests. One of our reoccurring special guests, he is someone, he's a friend of mine, and I talk to him about this stuff all the time. And now you do too, through our wonderful texting thread that we have.

And that is the one and only attack. Peter. What's up, Peter? How are you? Hey, how's it going, man? I'm so happy to be here. It's my favorite way to kind of like have my UAP therapy dump. All this stuff floats around in my head all day.

to talk to someone about it. It's so true that you say that. I have a lot of different things. It's like this pocket of people. It is growing, but we're still in a pocket, right? And our little crew, our little big thing crew is growing, right? We've got, I think it's me, you, Riley, Roxy, Pavel. I got to, I have my, I have my buddy, I can't, I don't know, I asked him if he could, if he could be on the show.

And he said he could, he just got to get clearance for us. So I don't want to say his name yet. but I have another person. Clarence? Yeah, for where his work, for his work. No, no, so I just wanted to make sure that we can, that we can do that. So, what, what I was going to say is we, it's the crew, the crew's kind of building, you know? Yeah.

And, but it's funny because I was talking to a friend of mine from Queens. And, I mean, he lives in a different part in New York now, but I was talking to him. And he was like, oh, yeah, I noticed you're really diving into that, the UFO stuff. And I was looking and he's like, I was wondering, this guy, he can't really be into this stuff. Right. And I was, and I said, and I said, let me ask you a question before you say that.

What, how much of it do you know about? Yeah, that's always. And that's my question to everyone. Yeah. And they all don't know jack shit. No. They don't know anything. They don't know.

And what I mean is, I shouldn't say, they're not aware is what I mean. Right. They're not aware. They don't know about, they kind of, I kind of heard about those hearings. I kind of heard about those hearings was one of the things that I got.

That's the one that always gets me and pisses me off the most. The one that the one that's me the most is that nobody knows about the fact that the Senate majority leader was in front of Congress saying we need more, we need more disclosure and it wasn't covered by no one. And when I tell people, they're like, really? That's the one that got my dad. Yeah. Like, really?

Absolutely. That's what you mentioned right at the top of the show is that no one's covering this stuff. And I think that's the effect of it. You know, like, you can, it can be all over the internet all day, but the reality is, as much as we think everybody watches YouTubers on the internet, they don't. No. And so it's never going to cross through to that main, mainstream generation until, I don't know what else could, it would require. You'd have to land on the lawn of the White House. That's where we keep saying, and hope happens, is that we get that shared experience of the big one, you know, the independent stay.

They can't hide. That they can't hide, absolutely. And it has to cover. Right. Yeah. That's one of them. You need like credible influencers to see something and say something. That's the thing.

Like you need people who like are you net? Like if Tom Hanks came out and said something. You know what I mean? But even them though, dude. Because like you look at, I mean, Kurt Russell talks about it. But speaking at which. So yeah. So I told Riley this yesterday.

And I haven't told Peter yet. So this will be, this is Tuesday. So on Sunday I went to the Critics Choice Awards. And when I went there, I was looking for one person in particular that I was going to talk to. And I said, and I, so I walked up to this gentleman and I said, I know that a lot of people are going to ask you about your movie today and your performance was wonderful. It was great.

It was great. But what do you think about that UFO jellyfish? And the man I'm talking about is, of course, Paul Giamani. My boy. Shut the fuck God, dude. And I was my guy right there. And I sat down with Paul Giamani for about three to five minutes and I talked to him about the UFO, the UIP Jelly And he was like, you know, at first I thought it was the, I thought it was something on the lens.

But it's not that. No. It's not that. And then he was like a lot of credible sources. And he asked me about the Miami Mall thing. We talked about that for a little bit. And then we talked about the senators going into the skiff. He has his own podcast.

Is that right? Yeah, he's got his own podcast. On UAP? It's everything. It's like he like talks about just a bunch of like different, like, you know, spiritual stuff. I think like, you know, I don't know if it's conspiracies. I don't want, I don't want to misquote. what it's about, but he talks about, like, these types of things, and he's really, because I said to him,

I said, I know that you're really into the UFO, so he's like, I'm really into it. I said, and I know, I know. And, and we talked for a bit. It was my favorite, and I said, I left going, I guarantee you, I am the only person that asked him about that. I'm sure. This guy, this Giamatti, not only in one of my favorite movies all time, obviously, was sideways. Private parts, obviously. Private parts, too. Yeah. It's up there, Peter. Did you see you when he gave a shout out to Stern? Yeah. Yeah. I thought, and I brought that up to him, Peter. I said, I said, thanks for mentioning Stern. That was a great thing.

And he goes, he goes, oh, it was true. It was true. It's why I said. He's a huge horror nerd. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was asked, he was on the red carpet at the Globes. And they're like, what, you know, what do you want to do? What, you know, what's a genre you want to do?

He's like, horror. He immediately had it ready. And they're like, what kind of, what movie? He's like, Texas Chainsaw Massacre. And I'm like, that's my boy right there. That is absolutely. And he's like, I can't be in Texas Chainsaw Massacre. But he's like I would do a horror movie.

No, dude, he was... That's what we need. That's the podcast crossover for sure. You've got to go on his show and talk about this. Or get him on here. Like I'll tell you, I was so excited to talk to him about it because I could tell he was excited because he was very excited to talk to other people about his movie, obviously, and everything too, but he did...

Best of the Year, man. That's my favorite. It's really good. But he did not expect me to bring that up. So when I did, and I told him, I hosted a show every Tuesday. He said, oh, really? So I was telling him about that. And, and it, but Peter, to your point, it's that you got to get more and more people on board where they're, you know, they're talking about it and listen to it because people still thinking, even if, and I told my friend last night that same story.

I tell you guys and you guys understand because you're, you're kind of deep into it. And my friend's like, oh, yeah. And no, no, no, it was a, it was another guy who was like, well, you should cover Sasquatch next. Like, kids. And I was, and I said, see, that's what I would have said to someone about seven months ago. Yeah. if I didn't know everything kind of going on. And people still, it's, even though they go, oh, yeah,

and they kind of listen to me when I'm telling them, but they're probably going, this guy's a nutbag, right? Oh, yeah. And it's probably what they're, but because they're not paying attention to the stories. Like, for me, it's a matter of the, when I watch those, that six minutes of that back-to-back

of all the senators coming out. And nobody, all those people I just talked about, that are these people who don't know what's going on, none of them know about the senators that were in this meeting with this gift. This was a bunch of senators, Those people who don't know, there was everybody who's been a very bipartisan group that was in this meeting, in a SCIF, which is a classified meeting where they were trying to find out exactly if they were going to find out any new information whatsoever. Now, last week on the show, we were very skeptical that anything was going to come out of this.

Now, if you listen, did you get a chance to listen to any of these interviews? No, I didn't. Okay, so I'm going to play these interviews for you. Great. I'm going to play these interviews for you because, and then we'll talk about it on the other side because this is about six minutes. So I'm going to show everybody this. This is a, and I think it's a clip together from maybe the UFO secrecy channel or it could be from News Nation. I can't remember. But I'm going to play it and we'll find out soon. Either way, I want people to watch all six minutes or listen to all six minutes because it's, I feel very different points of view from everybody who came out with one, I think with one through line. So let's play this and then we'll talk about it afterwards.

So this is what I'll say. I'm going to reiterate we can't talk about specifics and what we got into, but what I can tell you is what Gresh showed with me in an unclassified setting that I firmly believe in. I believe that he's telling the truth. I think that he is a credible witness. And what I can also say is one thing in particular that really caused me to be concerned about this whole thing, is that Gresh had stated to myself Representative Burchett and another member on the phone that there were people that were hurt hiding this information

and keeping this information safe and or trying to come forward with this information. What I can tell you is I believe that claim after now leaving. It has become apparent that there is a movement, whether it's within the intelligence community or not, to prevent us from finding out more information on this. And so we are going to do what we need to do as investigators to continue to pull on whatever strings and see where they lead.

I think it's incredibly important to listen to the specific words that Gresh uses, you know, Gresh never said extraterrestrial or alien. He said interdimensional. I think that that's incredibly important because those are the types of things that when we go in there, you know, there's just certain things that I think that it's important that you guys listen to on that. I think that Grush, when I had talked to him on whether these were specifically extraterrestrials or alien in origin, he said intradimensional. He refused to use certain terms.

And I think that's incredibly important because I think that that's really the question we're all wanting to know, right? And so I'm actually going to have a sit down conversation with him and ask him to come back and talk to us directly because it seems that we are getting more information from the source than going into a skiff and then not being able to tell you guys what we're talking about. Is this stuff? So did you hear anything in there that moves the needle forward, that changes what you thought before? Are they stonewilling you? Walk us through. What do you know now that you didn't know when you walked in? I just think what most of the American people fear is truth is that the government, there's a concerted effort to conceal as much information as possible,

both from Congress and to the general public. So I asked very specific questions and was unable to get specific answers. And so that's a problem, and we're not going to stop until we get the truth. Did you hear anything? It's giving me a more clear perspective, a little bit more of a clear perspective before it's very blurry. Everything is extremely blurry. but I'm getting a little bit more clarity. Are you satisfied with the answers you got today? I'm not fully. I mean, not fully. But it does give us a direction to go next.

And that's the key thing. So where do you guys go from here? I can't say. No, heck no. This is just more the same, more frustration. You know, you put these guys and gals in a tough position. They're only, it's very compartmentalized, as we said. It's like looking down the barrel of a 22 rifle.

And all they know is just right in the same. that little circle and but no it didn't it didn't disqualify anything I've thought in the past we got some pretty definitive stuff that would that I'm sure you all get from somewhere else about what was discussed and and to me it was it moved it it made what I think more credible No, I'm, I think they're covering this thing up. That doesn't, you know, and this guys pretty much verified that. So what does the investigation look like going forward?

Is it more hearings? I think so, but it's got me focused on who we need to be bringing into the hearing. As I've stated, it's not about Little Green Man and Pline Saucers. The issue is tens of millions of dollars on an issue that we've been told does not exist since 1947, and yet they're spending that money on researching something. So who would you like prefer to bring in front of it? Well, last time I did that, our selection dwindled, so I'm going to keep that pretty close to the cuff

because they ended up getting told not to come. Do you feel as though they were more transparent this time? Did you get anything that you didn't know before? I'm more concerned than I was going into the SCIF, and I think that they have a lot of questions that remain unanswered. I mean, now, one of the things that Mr. Brush talked about in the open hearing, he said that there had been non-human biologics, is that some of the type of things that you guys have gotten into and that they have not been as forthcoming on, alien spacecraft or something that's not human? Look, everybody is wondering about the substance of those claims. Mr. Brush has made some claims and he's also, he needs to be treated with some respect, and we need to get him.

to the substance of his question. Was that after? Okay. We got to talk about this moment. Okay. So, I mean, does this go towards your conversation about trying to get this bipartisan bill? I mean, if there's something that touched on this? I mean, look, I think that the bipartisan bill came out of a discussion at a first hearing

to ensure that pilots have an ability to report UAPs. The right now is no system for pilots or aviation personnel to report UAPs, whatever UAPs may be. And so the bill would actually do that. Obviously, you can't talk about the details of the briefing, but I actually think there was some interesting information. And so I think that this is a topic that I think is a national security issue, and it's really important that there's disclosure and transparency. I think that's what the public wants.

I think it's also a very serious topic, and so we've got to just take it with seriousness. It is not a joke. I just think that it's more important to focus on that this is a serious topic, and it deserves serious attention. And I actually encourage also members of the media to continue covering this topic. I think that's really important. It is not a fringe topic.

It is a serious national security topic. Okay. Did you hear anything that you didn't know? Are you being frustrated by this, like some of your colleagues? Well, obviously, look, the process is extremely frustrating, but actually this is the first real briefing that we've had that we've now made, I would say, progress on some of the claims Mr. Grush has made in his complaint and some of the claims he provided to Congress.

This is the first time we kind of got a ruling on what the IG thinks of those claims. And so, you know, so this meeting, unlike the one we had previously when we did this briefing, this one actually moved the needle. Very good. So that'll lead to more public hearings. Oh, I think this one's going to lead to. to a lot of things. I mean, there's, there, there were, there's a lot of new questions and a lot of new areas to ask and poke in based on what we got in this, this meeting. All right. So there's,

like, everybody seemed to think inside of that, even Burchett, who was a bit, you know, like, uh, like that, that something's going to come of it. Berchette's biggest thing was they didn't discredit anything. They didn't make me think, oh, maybe we're chasing the wrong thing here, the exact opposite as we're like Mouskowitz is like, Oh, this was, this was, yeah, there's going to be more hearings. This is going to lead to a lot of different things. There's the one guy that's been skeptical the whole time, and he's like running up the stairs, and he's just like, he's like, ah, I just, you know, Luna seemed to be, to get the information.

Peter, what did you think about this? And maybe I'm reading into this. But I, every interview that I've heard with Grush, he has kind of suggested the interdimensional stuff, but never really confirmed it, right? He suggested it. Luna seems to say in this that when you talk to David Grush, he doesn't say, you know, from this world, he says interdimensional. Yeah. Like definitively, it seems like she was saying.

So I don't know if that's a slip. I don't know if that's something more that they can talk about, but it seemed like a slip, didn't it? I thought that was a total slip because later in the interviews, one of the reporters tries to get another one of the representatives to comment on it, you know, and they won't comment on that. So, yeah, that's what I think happened. I think he's been hinting at it for a while. So I have a lot of these guys and probably behind closed doors. He may have said something to the effect of it is, you know, this or that or the other. And she, you know, mentioned it.

I thought that was wild. It also makes me think that she's probably not as clued in to all the obfuscation going on in the media. You know, maybe she's unaware that's a controversial thing. Maybe, but yeah. What do you think, Ryan? Well, I think that, one, maybe that she misspoke. Maybe she misquoted. I don't know.

I don't have a definitive voice of grush. But he seems to hint that a lot. He does hint it, absolutely, because there's a, we always talk about the stigma behind all of this. And the stigma of an alien or an extraterrestrial, like War of the Worlds or ET or close encounters, it conjures a certain thing in our society that they go, you know, and I always equated to, you know, Wizards and dragons. You know, it's a part of our pop culture to say aliens from another world come down war of the worlds are Martians. They come here. They're hell-bent on destroying us. Interdimensional is something that is almost science-based, you know, that we can start to discuss it in ways that there can be facts behind it. And that I like more. And so if behind closed doors, Gresh is saying

interdimensional and she's now using that as a way to break that stigma down, I'm all for it. But I'm the saying one way or the other. I don't I don't listen to her say interdimensional. I go, yep, that's right. No, no, no, I know. I just, I just don't, when the way that she said it, I'm just talking more so when she was saying definitively where she's like, when you talk to David Grush, he says, he says, he doesn't say extraterrestrial, he says interdimensional. He's never said straight out interdimensional. He's hinted on that. Right. He's never said it, so it just seems that. But that's, I feel her doing the stigma thing, like trying to get people to go, listen, we're not talking about little green men here. We're talking about bigger ideas. But you and I felt this. What did you think

about listening to all the people? I mean, that wasn't everybody, but that was a lot of people. What was your takeaway from everybody that was in there, too? Like, did you think, because we were kind of skeptical that nothing was going to come out. Did you, does it feel a little bit more hopeful? It felt hopeful. And I was, I was, I was actually hinting that I felt this could be a good thing and that this might have been a needle moving moment. I see it as such. Yeah. I see this as a very promising thing. I see that there are people coming out with kind of, you know, Bevel said it last week of this, you know, this idea of looking at the people's faces that they come out, you know, and there are some people that are like, ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but there are people who are like,

we've moved the needle, that was said. There's going to lead, it's going to lead to more things. That was said. That is so promising. This stuff is so promising because, again, every week, we started the show saying, we might just do this once a month and this, this, isn't that? It's like we can't keep up with this stuff right now. It's true. Peter, who, out of the ones that you had seen, out of those, and I mean, great job by UFO secrecy on both YouTube and Instagram of putting all those together. Did anything particularly, did anything stand out to you? And what did you think about the hearing side of it?

Because remember you and I spoke about, we didn't know if there was going to be a second hearing. We didn't know if a second hearing was going to be approved. It seems like not only is there going to be a second hearing, there could be various hearings, and there could be a lot of these whistleblowers that were supposed to come forward that are actually going to. So what say you and all that? I got the impression, honestly,

that something was said that was very tangible. And it doesn't necessarily mean, you know, that it was a specific craft or body or anything like that. I think something was said to the effect of like, this is the money that's being spent on that. And because a lot of the guys came out, a lot of the reps came out with this expression on their face. Like they don't have time for us.

They need to make a phone call right now to somebody. You know, there's like an urgency in their, in their energy overall versus what I've heard him speak before. It was a little bit more, well, let's see. I'm open-minded about it. Didn't you get that impression? I got the impression that they all came out of there with their, like, you know, with a fire under their ass to get something done.

So I got the impression that something was pointed to that was concrete, that was like, and someone says, I forgot who it was, it said something to the effect of like, now we know what the actual question to ask to certain. so-and-so was. Those kind of things make me think that a breadcrumb was dropped that, you know, motivated them all to go do something tangible,

like an actual call to action that they could act on at the moment. Yeah, and I also think the other thing that we should definitely talk about, and I know that, like, Ross Colhart and other people have talked about this. The other thing is that it seemed like this is, it's going to be very, very hard for skeptics

to try to discredit David Grush moving forward. he seems to be that what everybody seemed to say out of this even the it seems like his a lot of his reports have been validated now what which out of those reports out of the I because I don't know if there was a longer one or they mentioned but like there was a longer I've seen it there's a there is a I think a more detailed one also that I saw where someone was talking about like let's say hypothetically you know there's nine or ten options or questions out there that you want answered we had a lot of not all them but some of them so. So we don't know out of the claims of David Grush, which ones were validated inside of that skiff, but it seemed like a bunch were, and he's made some crazy claims. And most of them are crazy. And crazy, I mean, in a way, like, you know, you couldn't fathom it, but it all seems like those were validated. So, you know, it seems as if it's going to be harder and harder for the people who are trying to say, well, this guy, you can't take him serious. I don't think they're going to be able to try to go after him anymore unless he does something really crazy.

And they're like, oh, yeah, look what he did. So you can't take this guy serious or they did. I just don't think you're going to be able to do that to him. Am I wrong here, Riley? No, you're right. I believe that. I believe there's a groundswell of support around Grush. And especially when it's coming from members of Congress that are going in the skiff and validating what he said.

because he is one of the most credible people that has come forward, along with graves, you know, that was, you know, featured a lot in the, in the documentary on TMZ. You know, so these witnesses that sat up in front of the Senate hearings are the most credible to date, in my opinion. Right. And so it's going to be tough to say, ah, they're crazy, or nah, this, or they're that. You know, we have people now coming out of the skiff, they move the needle, you know, that's huge. Yes. That is big. Mousquet seems to be the one who is most excited.

Burchett seems to be the one the most and like, ah, these guys. He's my grandfather sitting on the porch having been through this shit. He's over, because he's the one. He's leading the charge. So he is already maybe well aware of some of these things. And so maybe he's a little bit more up to date on some of this information. I don't know. But he continues to be that guy that I just love.

of watching his reactions to this. Because he is. He's kind of, he's over it. Yeah. He's over it and he knows, he's said it before. He's like, I've kicked a hornet's nest with this stuff. So I'm going to hold things close to the chest. And I like that. Yeah, Peter, to me, it seems like Bertet's like, look, I get it. You guys are going to tell it.

We know, you're not going to, he knows. Basically, he's like, I know all this. If it makes everybody else around here happy and to hear that, oh, yeah, okay, this guy is not, uh, grush isn't aluni. I know that this is happening. I know that this is happening. And I love his answer. His answer is the one that everyone should be talking about.

And his answer is, what are they spending this money on? Like it's been, right. He's like, what are they spending the money on? He's like, it's not about the flying sausage. It's not about proving alien life. It's not about that. It's about what, where's this money going? They told us for years that there is no program.

Well, clearly there is. Where is it going? That's the question everyone should be asking because the other thing is that for those people I mentioned that aren't paying attention to this. Like, those people that aren't paying attention, of course, they're still doing and holding their mouth and laughing. However, the ones that are paying attention to it no longer look at people,

especially if you're in government, if someone's, if you hear, it's not like 10, 15 years ago, if there was a senator chasing UFO, you'd be like, that guy's out of his mind. Get him out of here. Now, they're like, oh, well, they're actually, they're actually onto something over there,

and it seems to be pretty real because they're doing all. So the people who are paying attention to it don't think it's cuckoo town anymore. Right. So but but what all of that stuff here. There was a lot to throw at you. No, yeah. I mean my my first response to to Burchett is that I felt like he knew that he needed to slowly drag these people, you know, and catch them up to speed. Yeah. You know, so that they could all be on the same page and the impression that I got was that he felt coming out of this meeting that he now has everybody caught up. right right and that's that's what it felt like but but i also was interesting to your point that

he suddenly started talking about the money because that seems uh like a a smart strategic move you know where it's like let everybody else keep talking about what it is and what it could be and all that and now he gets to take on this like uh um wise patriarchal role of like i'm just going hey guys whatever it is i'm just here to discuss the important stuff like where is the money our citizens are paying into the government going and getting where is it getting spent like that's inarguable like you can bring that up and no one's going to look at you cross-eyed so i thought that was a really smart uh positioning for himself like he can now be the guy who's worried about the responsible things you know yeah and so that's what i actually want to get to the next clip because it's it's

him being interviewed right outside the steps so you just came from the briefing were you satisfied at what you heard? I know you know my biggest thing all along it's you know obviously a lot of folks want to it's a little green man it's flying saucers right my concern is the tens of millions if not billions of dollars that we've invested in the research of this issue since 1947 that we know of and yet the federal government keeps telling Congress they don't exist and yet obviously there there's They're investigating something. So you think, and then when you have, when I have an admiral tell me they're real, when I have the top, some of the top pilots in the world say they're real. I don't see why American taxpayers can't get that information.

So you think there have been billions in potentially in government money that's been spent on developing something or? Well, that's, I'd like to know that. Are they developing something or have they recovered something that has allowed them to spend this much money? When you come out of that briefing, what questions do you have? I end up with more questions. Every time or just to... Yeah, yeah. Always because I always say it's like looking down the barrel of a 22 rifle.

They are very specific in what they know and it is very compartmentalized. It's like Oak Ridge National Laboratory, which I don't represent, but over 6,000 folks at work there living in the second congressional district that I represent. And they, you know, during the Second World War, over 2,000 people were working on the bomb, and less than a half a dozen knew what they were working on because it was so compartmentalized. I mean, husbands and wives did not know. Brothers and sisters who worked at the lab did not know because of that compartmentalization. And that's carried over into this. So say it was a recovered craft in 1947 at Roswell, New Mexico, every person that was involved in that is dead now. And it's been passed on and passed on and passed on.

And now with these private contractors who you and the press and we as Congress cannot access because they're not under FOIA, Freedom of Information Act, because they have passed it on to a private contractor. And is that by design? I don't know. I still think we need to ask some questions and we need to know some answers. Dadgum, it's just going on too long and there's no excuse for not giving us other than arrogance. I hear you on asking questions and that's part of your job, obviously.

But I'm wondering beyond that, what comes next in your view? Well, that's a great question. And I'm going to be working with the chairman. and since I'm not chairman of the so-called subcommittee that were, it is a subcommittee, I'm going to be working with them to get us an excellent list of witnesses for this next hearing. And I'm not going to release them because the last time I did that, the folks were literally told not to come. By who? We were told by NASA, a quasi-branch of NASA, other groups.

They claimed they didn't do it, but the folks told me they did. And we'd asked over a dozen folks, that's 12. And we ended up with three excellent witnesses that put their love of this country over the love of themselves. Because obviously, Grush was ridiculed. He was outed as somebody had PTSD. And you know, in East Tennessee, we don't make fun of people because they served their country and suffered from it.

We celebrate those people, and we try to get them in support them. But in Washington, D.C., they destroy those people. And that just shows the ruthless nature. And that shows that we are over the target, that we have, as I was told, I have kicked a hornet's nest at the Pentagon. I know you've got a flight to catch. We'll leave it there. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Thank you, guys. It seems to me that Burchett's just over it. He's just over it. He's over the policy. I mean, he pisses on D.C. every chance he gets. Like, he can't. He can't stand it. He craps on the corruptness of the government.

He craps on the fact that all this money's been, you know, he can't, he's, he's, he's, all my thing that I got out of it that I'm excited about to be completely honest is the fact that he's like, he's like, yeah, we're going to just put together a list of credible witnesses, like a ton of them. And I think that for him, that's what he wanted to do in the first place. So he's just completely, yeah, okay, fine, you told me everything I know already. Can we go? Great, we can go.

I should, in the little bitterness in his voice where he's like, I should be the chairman of this thing. but he got screwed because I think at the time, what's his face? McCarthy took him out of that spot or someone took him out of that spot. Right. And so he has been part of that. So, Peter, I think he's thinking he's over it. Yeah, you know, it's funny.

Like, he probably has a lot of, you know, grief about how the government works in general that's like manifesting itself the same way it always does through this particular lens. And I think that's probably one of the reasons everybody's, pushing back so hard is it because if any of this comes out to be true you know miss you know directing funds or black projects or hiding technology or hiding you know the s the nature of reality it's going to as a side note you know prove how corrupt the and and and dysfunctional the the system of government actually has been for years you know and so i think he's just you know fighting two battles at the same time it seems like yeah it does and also

And then you look at what the rumor from what Grush said on Rogan and other people is that Mike Turner's trying. He's in the same party. He's trying and he's trying to get involved in that race with. And he's trying to get Burchett seat overtaken. Oh, why? Why? Why is somebody in the same party trying to get a guy who shut down the bill in the first place? People don't know.

Mike Turner is basically the guy who not shut it down, but water down the Schumer. and Roundsbill of what it could have been. And Turner was like the main guy. So yeah, to get in the getting the other mic and then getting what, Mitch McConnell to, you know, put the kibosh on some of these things that we wanted as a transparency. And that's, that seems to be Bershett, what he is constantly fighting for is just finding, well, what the hell you spend in this money on then? If you are telling us, there's nothing there. You know, that's just old school kind of, you know, getting in there and finding out the facts. The other thing that I love about this guy is what he said about Grush and supporting him.

You know, we celebrate these people that, you know, have PTSD by serving our country. We don't ridicule and we don't attack them, and that's what seems to be happening in Washington. Yes, and it really only happened with that one reporter who took a shot at it, and that reporter got, you know, manure thrown over his face when he's a lot of people that are doing that just outside of that kind of world sure sure sure and that's what you know for him to say that is just I think it's just admirable that's what I want to say couldn't agree more now I'm very curious with you guys what do you think that this is going to lead to you think that we are going to get more hearings will we get the whistleblowers that we thought what will it amassed to of anything I really want to get your comments in there

So make sure like what, and by the way, people who have popped into this that maybe we're skeptical, are you less skeptical, more skeptical? What do you think is going to happen with this? Were you aware of all these things that were happening? Put it in the comments, I want to know. All right, we're going to move on. We're going to go to the UAP, the jellyfish UAP, that it's going to be a big date. I don't know if there's going to be a debate, but it's going to be a big conversation here.

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All right. Let's move and let's talk about this thing. first let's just show it let's just show this thing uh this is the report of the the the jellyfish here it is all right here is the uh actual video itself it's the latest thing it's the raw footage of it's really loud it's like stealth from 2018 in iraq whatever it is the weirdest video it's so strange so i think it was like half asleep when you send it over to me and it woke me up and like And I watched it like nine times in a row. It's crazy.

It's like, and people like, it's a drone. It's a drone. I'm like, farther reports of what happened after this thing. I only have it's a drone. Plus, why didn't they shoot the drone down if they don't know what it is? So even if it's a drone, it's one of the, it's the first time I've ever seen anything like it, you know? It's a crazy drone. I'll tell you that.

It even remotely seems familiar is the pro droid from Empire. Right. Yeah, it does for sure. Let's see if I can. Like it's just, and I wonder how, like, actual, how fast it's going. Yeah. Because this thing's following. And this is like a machine that's following it.

Nobody in the boat, they don't see it. They don't see it. Someone, it might have been the Mick West video where he talks about it being about a thousand feet up in the air. Right. It's also at night. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. So they probably can't or. You don't even know this is there. It's not even giving them. Right. Pause. So, I mean, look at this thing. This thing, it's like, probably has sweet stealth tech, too.

And so, well, somebody also. said they were like, well, what if it is a jetpack person? They're like, he's not a jetpack person. I'm not going to go that far and also at night. Are we there with jetpack tech already? That would be big news. Well, so jetpack news, there are, but we are there, but we weren't there in 2018. Right.

That's the next channel. Jetpack News Thursday. That's it. That's it. Okay. So it's a crazy video. The funny thing is that video dropped because Riley, myself, and Pavel talked about what we thought was going to come out of that TMZ doc.

And there's a lot of stuff that has been covered in the past on that TMZ doc, but there's a lot of new stuff. And this was one of those things. And this was the big thing that everyone was talking about. And that came out literally like two hours after we stopped filming on that Monday. And it was everywhere. And it was starting to get covered everywhere. So, Riley, let me start with this before you get into your thoughts on the video itself. But you actually, out of the three of us, you've actually watched the majority of that TMZ doc.

What are your thoughts on it? I really am enjoying it. You know, the first two episodes especially were a lot about the Senate hearings, and, you know, the people like Ryan Graves was featured on it. And, you know, they kind of recapped all the, you know, the videos that we watched that really got us to perk up, you know, the TikTok, the gimbal and the Go Fast. You know, those are the three videos in there. It's just great and insightful stuff as usual. It's a documentary that you can. can watch as on the outside you're not aware of this stuff. This will really fill you in with a lot of the big names that are out there, you know, Grush especially. Graves really comes off as, is fantastic in this because, you know, it was like we said, you know, they cover the Mexican aliens, you know, and how that took away from the work that Graves was trying to do. Do they discredit it kind of? They discredit it completely. Really? Okay. Yeah. And that's why I really, enjoyed it a lot of it because what I'll say you know we kind of touched on it with the

Miami aliens you know it takes away from what they're trying to do and there was behind the scenes footage of graves being like do not put me in front of those aliens when you talk to me do not put me in front of that box yeah yeah they want to talk to him about you know what he's there to do because he he goes on record on this doc and and Corbell as well is saying this is you know this is bullshit yeah the the the the Mexican aliens because they the he gets there and you see his face sitting in the the hearings yeah you know when these when they bring out the box the boxes oh they show they show graves it's just like yeah oh god and you know and their scientists that came on that goes yeah

they they they dug up old you know peruvian children and um and uh altered their bodies is what they're saying and that was news to me okay and so then you see the the the person that is purported to have these aliens. I can't remember the name, but he's saying, you know, yeah, and he's talking to Graves, he's like, you want to bring this to somebody, you know, this is big, right? And Graves just being nice. And he's just, yeah, yeah, you know, he's not into it. And so that was really, really interesting to me to see, you know,

and then to have Graves reiterate, you know, I'm representing a number of pilots. Well, yeah, he's been made it, he's made it very clear that what he's, and recently this happened, too, is that they, um, they, now, and I think you guys sent this to me or whatever, the commercial pilots for a long time, weren't even able to have nowhere to report. Right. And now they're trying to pass, or they're getting close to passing, or they have passed, Peter. Do you know anything about this as far as, like, the commercial pilots can actually report on this stuff now?

Well, that I heard a while back. There was supposedly, like, official channels. And that's part of what Ryan Graves was setting up, like a safe way to report that you wouldn't be, like, I don't know. Yeah, marginalized or whatever. So, right, so go ahead. You were saying that, so the rest of the doctor. Yeah, that was a big part of that is, you know, his wanting to open up communication for pilots. And it's very, it kind of hits home to me because, you know, my cousin Dusty is a pilot.

Yeah. And, you know, it does this. And he's probably outranking graves right now. He's so up there in the military. And, you know, I just, next time I want to see him, when I see him at a family reunion, I'd be like, what have you seen? Yeah, for real. I absolutely want to. But, you know, that kind of stuff, it's like I just know the amount of work that they do to get to that level of not only, you know, security, you know, talent, you know, know how to do these things.

You know, they're up there, you know, putting their life in danger every single time. That's what really sticks with me when you see the Tic Tac, the Gimble, the Go Fast videos, is that these are all pilots that are seeing this stuff and are afraid to come. forward. Now we have video, and that's the evidence that has turned me around completely, you know, from that day. And now that I look at these things and go, that's the stuff we want to know. That's what I want to know. So, you know, we'll get into the jellyfish stuff.

So you get into this, I mean, so were they debuted on the first episode? Yeah. And they talk about it for a bit. And they said, so basically Corbel came across this through a military guy that did not give him the full video because the full video, or, or we don't think he gave him the full video because they don't show the full video. The full video from what they say in this video

is that this thing that we just showed you guys goes for a bit and then goes over like a lake or something to shoots into the water itself and then rockets out at like a crazy speed. Now they say they had this on the video, but this is not the video that they had. So people who have been trying to debunk it and everything have debunked this one that we just showed you

saying that it's, What are they saying? Balloons. I think that's the... I'm so tired of balloons. I'm so tired of balloons being everything. Balloons? Yeah.

Why don't they pop in the balloons? Yeah, well, I'm a little... I might be the most skeptical on this one, to be honest with you. I've reversed, you know, when I first saw it, I did the probe droid analysis where I went, hey, Empire Strikes Back. I did watch some videos that kind of broke it down a lot. it does seem to be that way. Balloons? Yeah. Oh, come on.

Yeah, the way that it's... You thought it was balloons. You thought it was the other one, the, the, the one with the airline, but it wasn't Air Force One. It was the, it was, it turned out to be refueling tanks, whatever it was, too. It wasn't Air Force One. No, no, yeah, that was, that was, that was refueling. Yeah, right, right, those planes. Right, those, but you thought, you thought it was... The force perspective of it, when you go right by it, when it's that high versus another

plane that's, like, way out there, I'm just, I'm tired of balloons. I know. I know. I am too, because when you compare, but when you compare that, the go fast,

the gimbal, the tic-tac, versus that, they move differently. Now, you show me the video of that thing launching out of the water. You change your tune.

Absolutely. I'm just being the devil's advocate here after it's sitting with me, watching the videos, watching both sides of people talk. I'm a little less into it going,

that is something that is out of this world. Right. And more, because the video, as I've learned, was shot at night, thousands of feet in the sky. An analysis showing that when it changes, you know, kind of temperature is consistent with the land that actually makes it change color in the lens of the camera, that that is the land and the whatever it is against it, changing with it. The wind, they focus on a particular point where

a flag is flying at the same. And now I can't get it out of my head that that thing is moving like a bunch of balloons. And I'm sorry. I just... But why they have balloons in the middle of Iraq in 2018? Somebody pulled an actual picture of some balloons that it could be in it like a bunch of party balloons put together. But why is there a bunch of party balloons flying over Iraq on a military base?

Correct. I am not saying that this thing is party balloons either. But I'm also not saying that it's a, you know, UAP. I don't either. Until I would love to see the footage of this thing launching off and moving the way that those go fast, tick-tacks, and gimbals move. Because right now it's hovering and I'm looking at this thing. Like it's something, I don't know. But then here's what I'll say.

Then there's other videos out there that are purporting this thing as the jellyfish, right? And then, Peter, you send that article. Right. And listen, I want to believe that that thing is something because I'm the one that's going to believe it. But until I see it, until I can get other sourcing. Riley, I think you're fair to be in that space. You know, I have to tell you one thing for me with this video is when I zoom in on it, it's brainbreaking. To me, when I'm watching it.

I'm just zooming it too, yeah. Yeah, when I watch on my phone or whatever it is, like I could be swayed either way. But when I zoom in on it, there's like there is shading on that structure that makes it feel like it has a definitive shape. I don't know, but that's what it feels like when I'm looking at it. And, you know, I also saw that Mick West video where he breaks it down. And yeah, don't get me wrong, that that does make me pump the brakes a little bit. However, there is that article that I sent that, you know, look, the article puts it into, you know, that muddy, you know, that muddy range for me where I go, all right, you know, because if, you know, we have, when was that article dated? Here it is.

54. 54. So, here it is. So you're telling me flying jellyfish tail the plane, and that's from 1954. And then we have this video. Like I said, I'm going, there is something there. Yeah. But right now, at looking at this video.

I have to, and hearing that debunking video, and they haven't debunked shit. Let's call it what it is. It's just they're trying to debunk it, which I know that's what people are trying to do. It's just giving you a little argument one way or the other. You know, devil's advocate. Right. It's fair because I'm going to exist in that space where you're going to have to show me more before I go. That's something that that's a flying jellyfish monster and we got to arm up.

No. I'm looking at it going, okay, all right, all right, but I need more. Yeah, look, my gut tells me that it's just as likely that it's a drone that we're not familiar, a type of drone that we don't know about, right? And that's possible. Like, it might be that they're testing something that's, you know, flying it over the base to see if any of their soldiers can detect it. You know, whatever.

It could be our tech. It could be, you know, experimental tech. whatever that is though it does to me it it doesn't I don't get the impression that's balloons looking at it I've seen the video you're talking about it I could see how someone would say that I just feel like it is it has a structural quality to it but at the same time I don't want to like you know hang my hat on that and I don't think anybody wants to or should be like 100% it's just that we are in this situation now this environment where we're picking and choosing who we think is credible yep and where that's

that's coloring a lot of our, you know, judgment at the moment. And that's tough because, you know, people are fallible. And, you know, here's the other thing. Like, it could be that Jeremy Corbell is telling the truth, got this from a reliable source, and that that source was fed something, you know, to embarrass Jeremy Corbel. But wait, but, you know, yeah. But, Peter, you bring that up, and you and I talked about this, too. And I think that this is the one.

There was, they, they talked about this jellyfish one. I want to play this one, this clip, the Ross Colhart from the News Nation clip itself, because let's watch this interview and then we'll continue talking about this. Here it is. Yeah. About the latest UFO revelations is investigative journalist and News Nation special correspondent Ross Coldheart. Ross, it is good to see you again. Thanks for being here. Good evening, Natasha. Let's start with the jellyfish, a UFO video released by Jeremy Corbel, Corbel. This is over a U.S. base in a Iraq. What do you make of this video surprising so many people this week? Look, the problem, there's one issue I have with that video and it's an issue with a lot of imagery that we see of UAPs.

I don't doubt that it's come from sources who've told Jeremy and George Knapp that it is a UAPP. The issue with the video is that we're told that it descended into water and then it came out of the water after 17 minutes and was seen to hit off at speed at 45 degrees. which suggests some kind of intelligent control. The problem is the best part of the description of the account is not on video. So it doesn't bear out on video what we're being told happened in that incident in Iraq. And whilst I'm not saying it's not a UAP, I'm not the person that's been talking to the sources that have told George and Jeremy this, I do wonder though whether it's possible to get more of the video to be able to validate it further.

Yeah, I really appreciate you bringing this up because Jeremy, as you say, has claimed that the extended version of this video shows the UFO diving underwater, reemerging 17 minutes later at this high rate of speed, this angle you mentioned. To your knowledge, does any man-made tech have that sort of transmedium capability? There are some drones that are in development that are capable of going underwater and then coming out into the air. But I think what we're seeing here is an object that's not consistent with normal drone technology. It's something completely off the wall, frankly, in terms of what we would think of, is something that's capable of doing that kind of movement. But unfortunately, we haven't seen that entry and exit into and out of the water. So it's very, very hard to make a conclusion.

Ross, why wouldn't he release that extended part of the video? Look, I can't speak for Jeremy, but maybe. Maybe he doesn't have it. I mean, sources are often very difficult people, sometimes for very good reasons. They don't leak a full video. I've been in that experience myself. It's a very frustrating game, working as a journalist, dealing with sources on this UAP issue. There might be identifying marks on the video at that point which would allow the source to

be identified. I don't know. I mean, from what I understand, though, I understand Jeremy said that the object was under observation. and seemed to enter the water and then to exit the water after 17 minutes. So maybe the simple explanation is he didn't get a copy of the video showing the entry and the exit to and from the water, but his sources have told him that that was the case. It's frustrating, but frankly, we journalists are only ever as good as the sources that feeders. Agreed and understood.

Ross, this was a topic coming up that really piqued my interest tonight. You were approached with new video we hadn't seen from Sydney, Australia of a similar looking UFO. You have not been able to verify if this object is unidentified in nature. What are we seeing here? When was this taken? And how does it compare to the other jellyfish video from Iraq? I was approached by somebody from Sydney who I haven't been able to contact back to actually

ask to be able to name them. But they're happy for me to use and describe the video. And essentially, it does look like a jellyfish. in the actual audio of the video, the guy while he's filming it describes how it looks like a jellyfish. The problem I have, and journalistically, I can't reach any conclusion on this video. We just don't know enough about it. It could be a bunch of party balloons that have been stuck together and put up in the sky. But the gentleman that I engaged with online who told me that he'd recorded this video just in the last few weeks,

He said it didn't look like balloons, but the simple fact is, I personally think we can't reach conclusions about this kind of emigery. We have to look for default to prosaic possible explanations, mundane explanations, and I think, frankly, the most likely explanation is that it's a bunch of party balloons. Let's conclude that until we hear evidence otherwise. But I'm told there are anomalous objects seen like this jellyfish shape all over the world. I've been in touch also with somebody from Eastern Europe who's told me that they've been seen over there. The simple fact is we need sharper cameras and we need better quality vision overall to

make sure that we can actually make any conclusions about this kind of imagery. So look, a lot of people are using the balloon stuff. I think I just want to pop every freaking balloon that's been in there. It just drives me nuts with the balloon thing. But like I just the thing that throws me off about the balloon stuff, do I think that balloons have been mistaken for UFOs and UAPs? Yes, I do. Do I think this is the case for this one? I don't because I just don't think that when it comes.

And I don't not, and again, I'm not saying that it's necessarily, I would play, I would put more stock in a drone than I would balloons on this one. Because it also is weird. The article in 1954 has this thing. There's other ones, there's other spottings of this particular type. of model, whatever it might be, that it very well could be a drone technology from another country. So, so. That's from the 50s, though. That's, I know. But if it's the 50s and it's still the same, the same balloons have been floating around for this amount of years, it's like, come on. Yeah. No, it's, it's something, you know, and that, that interview you just played. I mean,

that's, it's just kind of where I land. You know, that's, that's kind of until there is, you know, that footage can be released fully. You know, that, the most mundane stuff. like balloons is usually where we kind of lean. I mean, we've talked many times on this show about, you know, 99.9% of the time, right? It's this or it's this or it's this or it's this. We're talking about that 1% or that 2% whatever it may be. So when that thing is moving the way it's moving, you know, I want that video that Corbell has or maybe he doesn't have of it moving.

Yeah. You know, because if that thing flies out of the ocean. It's going to convince you a bit more. Hell yeah, Will, because I have seen the Tic-Tac, I have seen the gimbal, and I've seen the go fast. Yeah. And then those are consistent in a lot of the pilot's descriptions, right? And they're consistent with a lot of the pilot's descriptions, a lot of the actual declassified things that you can now see online, you know, that we've watched many times on the show or, you know, you and I going on there and going, what the hell is that? They're moving, right?

They're moving. They're defying gravity. They're doing things that I don't even, not even a freaking physicist can. explain. That's moving in ways that, you know, if you say balloons, you start to see balloons. Right. So, you know, I want to, like I said, I have the poster up in my mind. I want to believe that this is a flying jellyfish monster, you know, harbinger of doom that is coming to tell us that, you know, you got to stop putting nuclear bombs in people's hands or whatever it may be. But then you see, that article of the pilot, balloons aren't going to follow around a plane.

Right. And I get that. So when you have the jellyfish description from a 50s pilot saying it's been following us around, that makes me go, okay, all right, I want to believe this thing. But for now, you know, I'm kind of, I'm pumping the brakes, as Peter said. Hey, the pressure's on the journalist, man, to get this out, figure out a way to make this more believable, more compelling. you know i imagine that you know when they put out that video that there was an expectation that everybody was just going to be like holy crap this is it and the fact that people have gotten to a point where they're more scrutinizing at the minimum i think that's good i think it's good that like we get to a point where we're like that like here's where i'm at i go that video looks wild to me

i told you uh when we were watching it i watched it like nine times on loop when you sent it to me like the middle of the night or something where I'm at. And so it definitely, you know, challenge my brain. But having said that, I do want to see the part where it goes into the water and comes out, especially if I'm being told that that video exists somewhere, hey, the pressure's on them to deliver it. And I think we'll all be better for it. Yeah, it's true.

Don't we have to do that in this space right now? We have to scrutinize this stuff. We have to be. A little bit. Right. I'm not going to. I don't want to believe everything as it comes. I want to believe the stuff that is like that people can't poke a hole in it.

Right. You know, because we're only going to make, we're going to make leaps and bounds when you get people in the scientific community to come and support these claims so that we can start to pull back that bail and get the transparency that we're looking for. Yeah, that's the other point is that I think that Peter, you say, both you guys, say the same, the same thing which I agree with is that we're at a place right now that this video itself, Like, if you would have seen this thing in 2018, 2017, you'd be, whoa, what's that? That's crazy.

But now it's like, look, we have so many of these types of videos, even though this one is a little bit more, and there's more stuff too. And it turns out that they do have that water side of it. It's going to be something that I think is going to really move the needle. But it's always the grainy footage. What is that exactly? There's never that real clear shot yet of the, and from what people say, those, that footage exists and that stuff is behind, you know, this, this wall that we can't see. Absolutely.

That's what we need. When's that stuff going to start leaking out, right? Right. Like, this leaked video is something that is, was not supposed to get out there, obviously, and they're going to try to say, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's nothing, it's nothing until you have. He needed the end piece of it. It's like, it's a great conversation thing. And I'm, and I'm definitely, I, all respect to you, I think balloons is, is no.

think it's silly. I think balloons is silly. But I do think if someone says it's a drone and they don't have the water part of it and it's shooting out of the water, hard to argue, because I don't know, as you said, Peter, I don't know what kind of drone technology there is. So yeah. Dude, the other thing is like, I don't know how to trust my eyes anymore. Like I, there's a video I sent you guys in the chat a few days ago and I just put it back in the chat. But it's another jellyfish video. And to me, it's an even more impressive video. But like, I, I show it to Gabby, my wife, and she's like, that looks like bad CG. I'm like, dude, I don't feel like it looks like bad CG, but it could be really good,

you know, fake footage. And it's a, it shows a jellyfish type, you know, entity or drone or whatever it is. And it shows it hovering. And then, you know, it starts to, whoever made this clip, you know, stabilizes the footage that adjust the contrast, then slows it down by 50% because at the end of the video, it shoots off so fast. It looks like it blips out of existence. But when you put it at 50%, it starts to compress,

and then it has a little trail that it leaves. But before it takes off, these three orbs emanating around it, like join it, and then it takes off. It's wild, dude. And I'm looking at it, and I don't know what I'm looking at anymore. Which is a crazy place to be? We're actually playing it as you're talking. That's great.

It's wild, dude. Yeah, it's like, it is. You've got to wait until the end of it, because the end of it, to me, is what's really compelling. Yeah, because it's like... Oh, it looks like it's moving. And then it just kind of zips... It almost looked like it was lifting up the bottom of the tentacles into the spear. That, this is...

I'm sorry, but it's a little... This one gets me a little bit more than the one that Corbel. Look at that. Yeah, but is this one fake? You know, like, my wife looks at it and laughs at me. I'm like, bro, really? Yeah, but that's the whole point. You want to get down and dirty.

I went back and forth with Pavel today on this thing. And, you know, we're talking, and he's, and I, you know, listen, we were talking about the string theory, like last week, you know, and, you know, the dreaming and, like, you know, out of body's experiences and being connected to a silver, like a silver string that can, you know, keeps your, like, quote unquote, soul there attached to your body, you know, attached to your body, you know, he's talking about some, you know, some people. Oh, yeah, I see it at the end there. Yeah. It's zipped off. Dude, that's wild. But you can see. these things that sometimes

we are in a we're in a whole new world now right but the idea that you know we are conditioned as humans to look at certain things like this and that certain people might and this is Pavel and Pavel can chime in maybe in the chat or something or talk to us

at another time but what I gather from it is like a new kind of evolution happening with certain people it might be by design this is big big picture stuff but that you know a new form of evolution where some of us maybe can see it. Some of us might not be able to really process it because of X, Y, and Z,

but that, you know, this could be the next stage that, and if you want to go into some of these theories, you know, that aliens put us here or whatnot. Maybe that's part of it, you know. But, you know, there are people that will look at this video and go, nah, balloons. Right. You know, or nah, it's drone or whatever may be.

That's where I think that ontological shock is going to come from. know like I feel like if I found out tomorrow that all these videos are real just that just that like I would be like yeah okay I believe that's what I figured you know I had a feeling right but if you tell some of my friends or my wife all these videos are real she's gonna go fuck you know like she has to have a little bit more of a hurdle there and if you tell me like oh we were created in an ant farm for aliens to look at or whatever I'm gonna be like huh okay I like that's not exact I wasn't I don't know. That was the outcome, but okay, I can see it. I don't know if you're going to react that way. No, but what I'm saying is, you know, if you tell my friends or my family. I might go in shock. Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying.

And I think you're right. Like, you're the people that I was talking about in the beginning of the show that were like, if like tomorrow, like they're not paying attention to any of this. They just know, oh, my friends, the loony who talks about this on Tuesdays. Right. And if they tomorrow found out that, oh, by the way, you know, you were talking your friendless, everything that he's talking about on Tuesday, you should probably watch a show because a lot of the stuff he covers turned out to be actual facts now.

And when it comes to the stuff like at the hearings, like hopefully the major news media actually picks up the second hearing because they covered some of the first one. Maybe they'll cover the second one. We'll see. We'll see if the fat cats are still paying them to not do it. But I'm convinced that's what it is now, by the way. There's a clip of or an interview that George Knapp,

a conversation with George Knapp and Jeremy, whatever. And George Knapp was basically saying, and you can see Jeremy's face like drops and disappointments. He's like, you know, I used to say I want disclosure now. I want us to know what's going on. And the more I learn about this, the more I think I don't know if I want disclosure anymore. I don't think, you know, I want to live in the world

where people are read into this stuff. And, you know, going back to what we're saying, like there are days where I have a mental exercise. I don't know if you guys ever do this, but like, where I say, okay, we are in an Anfarm or we are some kind of like experiment. And I just really meditate on that for a minute. And it's heavy, dude. It's the whole premise of the movie, The Matrix.

Oh, yeah, I go into existential crisis almost every single night talking about this stuff. Because, I mean, you can start with UAP stuff. But then you can, you can, I mean, sometimes I just, I just think about this speck of dust that we're living on. floating in a million specks of dust. And I mean, that makes me go, but that also reinforces all this stuff for me. It makes me go, there's got to be more than that. I would just, of course there is.

And I would love, I mean, I would, and I don't know how I would react to it, but I would love the answer, whatever the answer is. I would love the answer. I mean, because to me, it's like, you know, everyone else, you just kind of, everybody, just live in the same life, right?

Yes, I would love to be in the same life. to be in the cycle part of it when we found out what it is. You know what I mean? It's like, it's like you, not that I'm going to mean a damn thing in the grand scheme of it, but it's like, yeah, but I was there. It's like, it's like the same guys. It was like, I saw Ali fight. Well, guess what?

This channel will pop off. Yeah. Right. But I was here when the aliens came in. Or I was here when the interdimensional beings finally showed up and said, hey, here we are. Yeah. So I don't know. There's a lot to it.

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So let's talk about real quick the, like, to the other thing, too, and I know that we all stand in the same thing, but I'll tell you, there were a lot of people in those comments last week because we had a, our episode, that was the, not only the biggest episode of UAP Tuesday that we've ever done, it's the biggest big thing that we've ever done, it's surpassed Katie Sackoff's episode. Wow. And there were a lot of comments. And it was not universal that everybody's on board with our take.

on the Miami Mall incident. Yeah, I get it. There's a lot of people who think that there's a lot of cover up going on, a lot think that that, you know, there's more footage out there than we actually saw that we didn't dive deep into it. And I will say this, I didn't dive deep enough into it to know all of the facts. I didn't have talked to a friend of mine who I mentioned who is going to come on the show soon once he gets the clearance to do so.

And he dove deeper into it. Giamati was the first thing he brought up to it. He doesn't seem convinced that it was. was what they say it was. Again, I don't want to speak for him, but I'm just saying the way that I read it when I was talking to it when I was talking to him. But I still am, I've kind of hold my stance in last week that I don't, I just feel like there might have been more footage from cameras on the ground. I understand that when we're talking about shooting things up in the sky, I think somebody would have leaked that. I think if there were all those cops,

that some of them would have, somebody would have leaked something. I could, be wrong. I could be wrong. The day is still young. Good, Peter. If only you knew someone from Miami, right? Like, yeah, spoiler, I live in Miami. And it was the number one thing I was being DMed all like we're like, yo, what's going on in Miami? The first thing I did was I messaged a good, good buddy of mine who's a high ranking member of the Miami Police Department. And I said, I just literally text them. I go, aliens, question mark. And he goes, no aliens,

bro. And I said, so why 500 cars, you know, outside the mall? And the truth is in Miami, that's not a one-off occurrence. I've seen that in my lifetime a few times for things that don't necessarily pan out to anything. But, you know, he reminded me like it's New Year's Day. There's nothing else going on. And someone called in an active shooter at the mall. And so this mall for anybody doesn't know is an outdoor mall. And it's got like a very echoy vibe in there. I've been to it my whole life. And it's like 20 minutes from my house. And so what apparently happened is kids brought in fireworks to the mall on New Year's Day,

started lighting them in the mall. Yeah. And it freaked people out. Everybody panicked, ran out. You saw the footage of people running. That's legit. And so when they showed up, it's minors, you know, like underage kids so they don't put them on camera. But there's a lot of footage from that night of kids brawling outside the mall of

and I've seen the footage on TikTok and all this of what people are claiming are the shadowy figures. I can tell you the stuff that I've seen that's popped off on the internet is statues that are in front of the mall that I've seen my whole life that are lit from behind. So it looks like a big shadowy entity. I've seen it my whole life, you know. And there are other videos and pictures being passed around that are not this mall. They're flat out, not this mall. And so I can tell you as someone who's been to that mall a hundred times, there's pictures where it's like an enclosed mall.

This is not an enclosed mall. So, you know, I really think it's nonsense. And I think the fact that it, it got carried by a certain, you know, like a bunch of young people. It's like a grift thing, you know, everyone's trying to be the next big YouTuber off of it. And none of the people that we usually watch about, you know, to cover this stuff, talked about it.

That was another tell for me. Yeah. You, and I'm, you know what? I'm glad that there's going to be. a lot of comments on this and saying you didn't dig deep enough. You didn't, you got to ask these questions. Right. You got to go in with the fervor in the

in Miami, everybody would have flipped 500 phones open, dude. Right. No way you're getting everybody's phone. That's kind of what Christian was saying, right? That rush out of there, they would have trampled the cops. Forget out of here. I know. I don't like the answer. I saw it in the comments and I saw it.

I was too scared to do it. There are people who will that have filmed tons of stuff that it scares them. Well, yeah, but not another being. It's like, as Peter just said, we're in an age now that if you know you can film something that you're going to say, well, look what I got. You're going to do it.

I don't care. Absolutely. Or not. Somebody. I'm not telling you that some people wouldn't have been scared because it definitely would have. But there's, with that many people and that many people running around, I don't know. And like I said, I will never definitively say, especially in a big thing like this, to, is it possible that there was a major cover up?

Of course it's possible. Yeah. Is it possible that the entire police force was like, don't say anything about this whatsoever? Sure. When you look at, when you look at hard. It's hard. Hard to do. It would leak. It would leak.

It would leak. Look at, look at James Fox's doc. Yeah. The, the, um, shoot, the one in, in, uh, oh my God. Yeah. Um, no. A moment of contact. Thank you.

Moment of contact. When you look at a moment of contact, there's a lot of police that were involved in that. And it leaked. And people talked about it. Tons of people talked about it. But not in this particular way. This is like that one to me, the moment of contact one is very interesting. Like that one still.

That one with all the fact, and the way that's put together in that one, that to me is one of the most convincing ones that I've seen. If anybody hasn't seen James Fox's moment of contact, I highly recommend watching that one. That one to me is very, very compelling. Yeah, absolutely for me as well. Yeah. And to that point, the leak, the amount of cameras that are out there, the amount of people that could maybe know about this, and then are, you know, in the corner saying, don't tell anybody. If this is correct and there were alien beings or whatever it may be that were there, the day as young, as I said earlier, it could and will come out. For now, what I am just passionate about is being sure of these things.

And that might be an impossible thing with all of this. But when we get people that are, you know, scientifically backed or that have the scientific minds to break this down, clear footage, you know, Corbell and the jellyfish, you know, show that video. For the Miami thing, let's see some more proof. Right. Right now, it's going to be a little difficult to say, well, I believe it because this dude over here said he saw aliens. Okay, if that guy believes it 100%. Okay, I'm going to listen to that guy. Absolutely, we'll listen to him.

But I'm not there. I need to see these things and have proof myself to feel beyond a reasonable doubt, I suppose. So until that happens, you know, right now, it looks and sounds like exactly what you were saying, Peter. You know, an active shooter in this world. That's what I said last week. Yeah. That's exactly where we're going. In a tourist mall, in the holidays.

You know, avoiding a tragedy of. of that epic proportions that we've seen happen in the United States. It happens almost every day. And what happens normally when that's over, they point fingers at the police department right away. And so it's like it's New Year's send everybody. Everybody. Everybody.

And you know it's a juicier conspiracy if you want to get wild about it, is maybe you're somebody who knows this jellyfish video is coming out and you're like, oh, look, this thing is going around the internet. internet as a as a cover up push that algorithm out make sure everybody's talking about shadow aliens in the miami mall right like it sounds like the inquire you know what i mean so like if you believe that like media is manipulated and controlled and like that's that's a really cool way to distract from one thing to show the other so when you google aliens the first couple weeks of january you're getting miami aliens not it's true it does show that there's more conversation that goes and even if people

are you know still thinking that's a cover up and all these things it means that there's people who are really believing more so that there is a cover up going on in general. So the fact that it even could be even an idea for people that this could possibly have means that there's more to it overall. That's a good thing. Yeah. That is because we are witnessing that with the Senate hearings and what Perchette is saying is like, okay, if you're saying this doesn't exist and this is bullshit, what do you spend

all that money on? That's right. You know, and that is what we are trying to get to the bottom of. And that's the transparency that we were looking to see. So it's not a big leap to go, okay, they're covering up aliens who are shopping at the gap on New Year's, you know? Okay. All right. Let's see it.

Yeah. That's my thing, man, is that, like, I'm with Burchett on this one, too, is that I just feel like they're, as they always say with everything, follow the money, right? Right. And right now, like, the thing that is the most intriguing to me is the amount of cover-up that's going on since the 40s, since Roswell, since all these things. And the reports from all the military that there are these separate programs and where are they? And the idea that the Mike Turner thing was one of the biggest like farts I've ever smelled. And it was like to me, that's that's the big, like the fact that this guy not only labeled like the most crooked politician back in like 2010. Right.

But Lockheed Martin is the one who's been, you know, one of his biggest backers and all that too. Like that just stinks. And you got to follow that stuff. That's the stuff to me. Yeah. That's fascinating. because that's the stuff that is eventually going to go, okay, fine, as we've said many times on this show, maybe it isn't interdimensional stuff, maybe it isn't aliens, but what the hell is it?

That's the way you find out. Because even it turns out, you know, all this stuff is these high-tech drones that this other country, whatever, whatever country had since the freaking 40s, they've had this, and this is how they built out certain things in their nation. They did this, and they've been spying us here, and this. that they did this, then it's like, whoa, we need to know about this stuff as citizens of this, of this, the world needs to know about this thing, whatever country would be, if that is indeed the case.

I don't feel that that's the case, but I think there's enough trail to find out what is the case, and that's what they're trying to do at the hearing. So I ask you guys, what do you think about all the stuff that we covered here today? We talked about the senators who heard all this stuff. Do you think that these hearings, when do you think they're going to happen? We didn't even really get into that, man. When are they going to happen? Who's going to be the next whistleblower to come out and talk about?

What do you think about that jellyfish video? You think it's really? I think it's balloons. And also, what do you think? Still, what's your thoughts on that Miami Mallinson? There's so much. So I'd like to thank my panel here today, starting with our guests, Attack Peter. Peter, where can they find you, man?

What do you got going on? I'm everywhere online at Attack Peter. I'm an artist and a creative director over at Mondo, so you can always find my new work, toys that I design or art that I'm overseeing over there. So check me out there. And so many people have reached out. out to say what's up online from this show. So nice meeting you guys and continue to do so. I love that. All right, Riley. Nice. At Riley around on the internet. At R-E-I-L-L-L-Y around. See you there.

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