The Kristian Harloff Show - LEAKED! Secret UFO CIA program and why aren't the major news outlets covering Schumer's bill?!

Episode Date: December 5, 2023

Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow There is so much going on right now in the UAP/UFO disclosure conversation. Last week, a report from the daily mail alleged that the CIA has ...had a secret UAP program for the last 20 years and that over nine crashed ships have been recovered. This report has come out due to the fact that Chuck Schumer's disclosure bill that he submitted has been roadblocked by some Republicans. What is there motive? There is no clear answer as to why they are trying to block the bill. Chuck Schumer made an announcement today pleading with Congress to pass the bill. Kristian Harloff and Mark Reilly discussed this and more on UAP Tuesday.  #UAP #UFO #Disclosure #Alien #Aliens #Government  AG1: http://www.DrinkAg1.com/BigThing KAJABI: http://www.Kajabi.com/BIGTHING MANSCAPED: http://www.manscaped.com CODE: BIG THING DRAFTKINGS CASINO: Download the app CODE: BIG THING

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back, everybody. It is UAP Tuesday here on the big thing. I could pretend that I'm happy, but I'm not. Why? Because everything we've been talking about, the last two weeks, we said, they're going to block this thing, and it's dead. The Schumer thing's pretty much dead. And they fought hard, and they tried to,
Starting point is 00:00:21 and they were just people within their own party, from what we thought was a very bipartisan, subject has now turned into be not that. And it seems to be shady things going on to get this thing blocked. And now, you know, there's other people who are coming out and going, okay, you're going to get disclosure the hard way. And one of those things that happened, like right after we went off the air last week that happened is that the Daily Mail put a report out that there was a secret CIA program
Starting point is 00:00:53 that's been going on for the last two years and a lot of whistle, excuse me, 20 years, that a lot of whistleblowers had kind of come forward to anonymous ones, but talking about how this program exists and that there is a reverse engineering program and that there have been ships recovered, some intact, some destroyed technology is out there in general. And whether or not this stuff is real or not, a lot of people are reporting on it,
Starting point is 00:01:16 but whether or not it is real or not is the stuff that, if there is this type of disclosure of stuff that is indeed real, how dangerous is this? because on the disclosure plan that they had, there was kind of a layout of what can come out, doing it responsibly to where you're not giving up potential classified stuff that could hurt national security. If it's balls to the wall and people are just like,
Starting point is 00:01:44 we've got to get this stuff out now, this is the only way to do it, is there going to be stuff that comes out that maybe would never have come out? Yeah, there's going to be a lot that we're going to talk. about here. We're going to go over. Really the two things we're just going to talk about is a secret program and the bill, the ups and downs that the bill had. And it looks like if I'm Tim Burchett, I'm getting more and more disappointed every day because the people I thought were on my side, aren't even on my side anymore. And people are trying to get him thrown out of his position.
Starting point is 00:02:13 He's got to be really bummed right now. So we'll get into that. If you're brand new to the show, you've never been here before. Please, right there, you see that things swirl around. That's the subscribe button. Hit that. Help us get to We're trying to get right now 200,000 subscribers. Anytime we put the show up on Tuesday, a bunch of new people come in because they want to talk about this thing is important to talk about, continue to talk about there. This week, I did see a lot of outlets that normally don't cover.
Starting point is 00:02:40 We're covering it, but we want to make sure that more people are talking about it. So again, be part of this, hit that button, be with us every week. Help us get the word out even more so. So Patreon, patreon.com slash the big thing show, Apple Podcast, Spotify. all those things and more. Thanks for joining me. It's myself. It's Mark Riley.
Starting point is 00:02:59 It's UAP Tuesday. Let's do it. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the big thing. UAP Tuesday. It is myself, Christian Harloff, and Mark, Yodius Riley. Hey, you look like I do right now. Yeah, pissed.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Yeah, it's not, it's, give me a little buzz, a little in, a little out, hold on. There you go. Like that. Sounds good. Yeah. Yeah, it's not good, man. It's really not.
Starting point is 00:03:41 It's unfortunate to see, and you were mentioning up top of the bipartisiness, and it's really not there. A couple of Republicans apparently trying to block this thing. Which is crazy when you had the Republicans who were kind of running it. They were running it. And I'm not singling out Republicans saying, you're damn Republicans. No, there's a ton of Republicans, Bershett, who are trying to get this through. Luna. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:04:04 And then you have a couple that are. what are it torpedoing it it's it's crazy because like that that was the one these it's crazy it's not crazy as we mentioned last week on the show when you see that some of them are are funded by the people who want the who want you to be quiet and who are rumored to be publicly um funding this thing yeah yeah lucky yeah it's like the stud the the the the ones that apparently have things to possibly be transparent about and, you know, show off or at least be transparent. That's all I'm asking. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Yeah. So, yeah, for those people, and one of the things that I do see, like I said, in the beginning, why I am so grateful to everybody who's coming into the show that's new is that I see a lot of things and people going, hey, I found this show and, like, I'm not as caught up on everything. So can you guys give us kind of a breakdown of everything as opposed to, of me hearing this for the first time, and I think that's more than fair in the way that we'll do it. And for other people
Starting point is 00:05:12 who are tuning in for the first time, also understand this, because I don't want to say this every single show, because I do feel like it gets repetitive, but for newer people, because I see people come in sometime and they go, oh, these guys aren't like experts on it? No. We're not at all. We're trying to represent
Starting point is 00:05:29 is the audience or the population of people that should be learning about this topic more that should be covered on the news more and they should be hearing about it and discovering it like, you know, today, tomorrow, yesterday. Right. We're there every person. That's the goal of this.
Starting point is 00:05:50 And look, as we talk about it more and we become more informed, of course, it's very similar. So for people, again, who brand new to this channel or don't know me that well past this, I ran a channel that was, I mean, we still do movie reviews and things on this channel, but I ran a channel for a long time with a friend of mine, Mark Ellis, called Shmose. No, we started that channel as just average dudes reviewing movies, watching movies,
Starting point is 00:06:14 and eventually we became certified on Rotten Tomatoes and we did all these things. And yes, we became more, like we understood the business more and had more of the terminologies and things of that nature, but we always kept that feel of just guys are going to watch movies.
Starting point is 00:06:28 And it's the same thing with this. Yeah, yeah. And the more we get into this, the more we learn, and the more that we can grow with you, you and the audience and you know you can call us out and say hey you know it's actually this we will learn from that yes links people post links all the time absolutely sooner or later the aliens will hear about us they will take us they will educate us and they will drop me back in a
Starting point is 00:06:51 husk of my former self fair um i think they took me last week i might just been a good edible either either way look uh let's let's start let's start with the uh with the report that came out last week. Yeah, that's the big one. That's the big one. So this is from the Daily Mail, but this one comes through from Mint, but it's a report of the Daily Mail. Secret CIA team retrieved several UFOs from across the world. At least two have been
Starting point is 00:07:16 found intact. The United States of America has reportedly been undertaking covert missions to recover unidentified flying objects. At least nine non-human crafts have been collected thus far by a secret team of the CIA. The Office of Global Access is believed to
Starting point is 00:07:32 have found at least two UFOs in undamaged condition. According to a report by the Daily Mail, the U.S. intelligence agency has a system that can discern UFOs that are cloaked. Special military units are dispatched when such vehicles land on Earth. The publication quoted unnamed sources who were directly briefed by members of the retrieval team to underscore its assertion. The OGA reportedly comes under the CIA's Science and Technology Directorate and works in tandem with special operations forces such as seal teams to carry out the missions. The assertion comes mere months
Starting point is 00:08:06 after former Pentagon intelligence officer David Grush told Congress that the American government has been hiding evidence of crashed UAPs and alien biological specimens. I was informed in the course of my official duties of a multi-decade
Starting point is 00:08:20 UAP crash revival and reverse engineering program. I made the decision based on the data I collected to report this information to my superiors and multiple inspector generals and in effect becoming a whistleblower. Grush testified in July. Meanwhile, a recently released NASA report said it had found no evidence that UFOs were extraterrestrial. It is increasingly clear that the majority of UAP observations can be attributed to known phenomena or incurrences.
Starting point is 00:08:45 NASA's 16-member expert panel wrote in its report. However, the panel also concluded that the ability to study UAPs is hampered by poor data collection and a lack of uniform standards, which must be remedied if research is to proceed on credible basis. The top takeaway of the study is that there's a lot more to learn. NASA administrator Bill Nelson said in a public remarks at the agency's headquarters in Washington. Okay. So that's kind of the brief overview of the report itself. The Daily Mail kind of went into depth on this a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:09:20 You and I spoke like, I don't know, maybe like 15 minutes after the Daily Mail dropped it. And it's, yeah, you kind of went back and forth on how you felt about it, right? Yeah, I was skeptical at first. And then I laughed at myself because I'm like, I don't know about the cloaking thing. And then I'm like, oh, yeah, UAPs that could possibly, and I'm talking about it myself saying interdimensional travel. And it's like, okay, yes.
Starting point is 00:09:47 And we even have the technology ourselves. So somewhat. I think sci-fi movie immediately. So why not? Of course it could be. my skepticism is is still there because it is hard when you say sourcing sourcing and you know it's it's the same kind of thing when you know grush goes in front of the senate and he says you know i know this from this person his sourcing um and people go well i need that person
Starting point is 00:10:16 to sit down and tell us face to face yeah or in front of congress or something and and i get that um this it's healthy skepticism but i always go back to whether smoke there's fire and there is a ton of effin smoke everywhere with this with um with grush with the whistleblowers with graves with everybody coming forward and that senate hearing so um i tend to believe this i tend to lean towards yeah something's going on i do too because of the fact that the reason why it came out um right around the time that we're hearing this thing might get killed in congress that's why because like all the i think the people are getting so frustrated on the side of, we just want the disclosure out there.
Starting point is 00:10:59 The, you know, the world needs to know about this stuff. And then clearly, and I always quote George Knapp, where he said this in that dog, where he said, the people who have been hiding this are better at their job than we are at ours. Yeah. Because they know how to do this. They know how to cover it up. They know where to spend the money to shut people up. And it seems like they're doing it again.
Starting point is 00:11:22 And they're able to do it again. Because this is the one thing I did see from a lot of skeptics last week in the comment section. repeat it for those who are joining. This bill, just to reiterate real quick, and we'll cover it more in depth in just a moment, there's a bill that Chuck Schumer and other people, bipartisan, wrote up to essentially get a plan of the UIP disclosure saying it's that they would be able to investigate and if there's reports that they could have subpoenas and they could go out and look for things and all that. And there were two people inside, three people, three Republicans inside, that have blocked this bill.
Starting point is 00:11:57 And basically, the question is, why? Why are you blocking the disclosure? There hasn't really been a real answer except the fact of like, well, it kind of goes against what the DOD does. And if that's the case, but it's not, because they don't have the power to do it, and then what we found out through Grush's interview
Starting point is 00:12:17 and other people is that one of the guys, his fund is one of his biggest donors is... Yeah, it's, God, why, Lockheed? Yes. And so they, so who is apparently, if you believe in all the rumors, have been funding a lot of these programs. That's where a lot of this money comes from, is they're not specifically from the government, but outside sources that have been doing this, private companies that have been funding this. You test a bunch of aerospace designs, airplanes, jets, things that can go into space. You might run into things.
Starting point is 00:12:51 So, yeah. And then there's also there's reports inside of this thing that there's potential. like satellites that people always say well how come the satellites aren't picking picking it up and is that this report is essentially that they there are satellites that pick them up all the time we just don't have access to them these companies do that makes the CIA does like so I mean how the hell do we know I don't know what the hell they have access to and what they don't have access to and but when you the reason again that I believe it is what I was saying before with the skeptics inside the channel what I will say is what I
Starting point is 00:13:22 saw a lot of people say and I brought this up last week If you come here and you go, I don't know, guys, I'm just not on board. We all are asking the same question. If they don't have anything to hide and they want to know the same answers and if they also think there's nothing out there, then why wouldn't you pass this bill? Why wouldn't you pass this thing? Right. It makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:13:43 And especially what they said, what Luna said, the biggest pushback, you know what's coming from, is the intelligence offices. That plays into this report from the Daily Mail, which I want to, I brought up the actual report from the Daily Mail, and some of the things, the Office of Global Access, a wing of the CIA, has played a central role in collecting alien spacecraft since 2003.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Sources tell the Daily Mail. At least nine non-human craft have been recovered. Secret CIA office has been coordinated the retrieval of crashed UFOs around the world for decades. A source told Daily Mail. One source said that nine apparent non-human craft that been recovered by the U.S. government, some wrecked from a crash, two intact.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Three sources believe. On those alleged top-secret operations, they told Daily Mail that the Office of Global Access, a wing of the Central Intelligence Agency Science and Technology Directorate, has played a central role since 2003 in orchestrating the collection of what could be alien spacecraft. The three sources who spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid reprisals have all been briefed by individuals involved in those alleged UFO retrieval missions. Though the shocking claim sounds like they come from a science fiction novel, they are part of a growing body of evidence suggesting the U.S. government could be hiding advanced vehicles that were not made by humans.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Former top intelligence David Gresh told Congress in the report the same month, Chuck Schumer sponsored an extraordinary bill to allow disclosure of recovered technologies of unknown origin and biological evidence of non-human intelligence which has now passed in the Senate. Sources who spoke to Dailymail.com shed light on how the CIA has allegedly coordinated the secret recovery and storage of these alleged crash or landed UFOs. They said there's at least nine vehicles. There were different circumstances for different ones. One source briefed by UFO program, insiders told Daily Mail.com,
Starting point is 00:15:35 it has to do with the physical condition they're in. If it crashes, there's a lot of damage done. Others, two of them are completely intact. The sources say that the CIA has a system in place that can discern UFOs while they're still cloaked. And if the non-human craft land crash or are brought down to Earth, special military units are sent to salvage the wreckage. Another source with knowledge of the OGA's role said that they specialize in allowing the U.S. military to secretly access areas around the world where they usually would be denied,
Starting point is 00:16:06 for examples behind enemy lines. They are basically a facilitator for people to get in and out of countries, the source said. They are very clever at being able to get anywhere in the world that they want to. Multiple sources briefed on the OGA's activities told Dailymail.com that most of its operations involve more conventional retrieval missions such as a stray nuclear weapons, down satellites, or adversaries technology, but they claim some missions coordinated by the OGA have involved retrieval of UFOs. The task at hand is simply to get it into custody and protect the secrecy of it, one source said, the actual physical retrieval by the military, but it's
Starting point is 00:16:42 not kept under military control because they have to keep too many records, so they start moving it out fairly quickly into private hands. Documents published, by the National Archives and Records Administration in December 2016 showed that the OGA was one of 56 offices in the CIA with its chief and deputy making up a total of 286 director-level officials in the spy agency. An unclassified organizational chart published by the CIA in October 2015 list OGA among nine offices in the science and technology wing of the agency. Late CIA expert Jeffrey Richelson wrote in a
Starting point is 00:17:20 2016 book on the agency that the OGA was established in 2003 and cited a CIA description that integrates analysis technology and tradecraft to attack the most difficult target and to provide worldwide collection capability. A 255 word biography of former OGA deputy Doug Wolfe published by an aerospace conference in 2017 says that he helps start the Office of Global Access. There's so much in this report. There's so much in this report that really goes. over the entire kind of breakdown of all of it. But as I was saying to you on the phone, and you kind of came around to it, is that the cloaking side of it,
Starting point is 00:17:59 yes, and they say it in the article, it comes up as a science section. But like when you look at what like a stealth bomber does, yeah, a stealth bomber, like I wouldn't be surprised that the stealth bomber had elements of things that they learned from, you know, could be. Who knows? But overall, when this program, like it does,
Starting point is 00:18:17 it all makes sense. It all kind of, like when you pay I mean, listening to that, have you been listening to that Rob Reiner podcast about JFK? Yeah, it's great, isn't it? It's really good. But when you listen into it, basically the idea of it, no matter what you think about, what happened, what didn't happen. That's a great example to bring up. He just brings up all of these different things over the course since 1963 of all of the things
Starting point is 00:18:40 that have been reported on and little things in the news and all the things that could potentially lead up to what could be the most probable answer. Right. If you look at it that way. And if you look at all of this stuff from Roswell and all these different things leading up to this. And in the fact of what is going to happen and what looks like it's going to happen inside of this, as it's already happened with this report, is that there's a lot of discouraged people who were very excited. You and I can be discouraged in this because we're following it.
Starting point is 00:19:11 We're talking about it every week. And we said, like, yeah, maybe we will in our lifetime get it. But people who have their boots to the ground, whether it's someone like, at the top level, like, inside of this community is like a David Grush and Gary Nolan and people along that lines. And then George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell, all those people who are really, Russ Colhart, all these people who are really in it. It's got to be super discouraging, but it's also got to be like, they put out these tweets.
Starting point is 00:19:40 And we talked about a couple weeks ago when Jeremy Krabel was like, there's going to be a ton of stuff coming now. Yeah. The question is, because you put out a report like this, right? you put out this CIA thing from the Daily Mail. And you and I go, whoa, did you see that? And like the news nation and the Hill report on it. And they had some kind of thing on MSNBC.
Starting point is 00:20:02 It was to meet the press, but it was like the side version of it. And they barely even mentioned David Grush. And they don't even really kind of dive deep into it. And it still, it's like it was on the internet as opposed to like on, maybe it was on TV. It was on TV. I actually rewatched it this morning on MSNBC. so at least it's out there. But they miss a lot of core elements, right?
Starting point is 00:20:21 It's like brush is really covered. I think it's because they were, I noticed that they really went, Graves was on there a lot, you know, and the reporting was, it was, it was spoon-fed. Is what my point is. And it's,
Starting point is 00:20:38 because they're doing it sort of with a wink and a smile. You know, you know, hey and UFOs, are they real kind of thing. Right. And I get it because you might get people who's like, turn it. They don't want that.
Starting point is 00:20:52 So they were kind of just spoon-feeding a kid's glove kind of report, you know, even asking the main interview, the main reporter like 15 minutes into the actual segment. It was like a half-hour segment. Do you believe now? Are you skeptic? And he goes, I went in. I went in skeptical.
Starting point is 00:21:11 I'm coming out going, there's something there. We need some more transparency, which is kind of the heart of it. Schumer even is saying, look, if you kill this, there's a lot of misinformation that can come out of all of this. So what we're trying to do is peel back the veil, get everybody on the same page, which is, it sounds impossible now because of what's going on here. Here's another question. I don't know. This is more conspiracy brain than anything else. But do you think, because when they asked Ross Colhart about why the Rep.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Republicans were doing this. They said it might be payback for when Bershett voted out. McCarthy. McCarthy. And there could be some payback there. Do you think that there's in any way that these particular Republicans don't want to pass this through because they do not want Biden to be the president that disclosure comes under and they're waiting to see if Trump gets in there, if Trump could be the disclosure president? I don't know. I think it's more much. It's all politics. It is all politics. I see it more logical that it is, in fact, against maybe McCarthy. I can see that.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Retribution, so to speak. You mean against Burchett? Sorry, Bershett, yes. And for what he voted against McCarthy to oust him. I believe that could be possible. I don't know. I don't think it's on their radar. I don't think they're thinking, like, we don't want to give credit to Biden.
Starting point is 00:22:45 That's why we're doing it. I don't know. Yeah. Politics. I don't trust because when it comes to politics, I don't put anything against, past anyone. No, they're going to politicize everything. Everything. And this is, I just think that this can really be one of those moments.
Starting point is 00:22:59 It's more along the lines of, no, we're, no, we're blocking this. We don't want to deal with that. You want to go a little bit more sinister? Yeah. There is something that I perked up in that Rogan interview with Grush, who said, listen, there are a couple mics in the Republican that, that their donors are a Boeing and a Lockheed, and they're trying to block this.
Starting point is 00:23:21 That I go, hmm. That makes the most sense to me too. That makes the most sense. Easily. And also the other thing that I think Rogan said on that show, which I agree with, when he said it, I was like, yes. One of the main reasons, when you look at, especially when it comes to these private companies
Starting point is 00:23:34 that have been doing this stuff illegally, there are gonna be tons of lawsuits and people are gonna go to jail. Like tons of people like that are gonna be, People who had, you know, very respectable records that are long gone now could be tainted because of the cover-up and all these things. So they're trying to keep it as quite. Like, you can understand that if you're part of this cover-up that's been going on for years, that you're going to want to keep it quiet. Hell, again, bringing up the Kennedy assassination.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Like Bert Chatt always brings it up. And he was like, well, he's been gone since 1963 and he's still trying to cover it up. Of course, they're still trying to cover it up. They're always going to try to cover that shit. It's the same kind of lineage, the same program, whether or not you think it's CIA or not that was involved with Kennedy, is that if it was, they're never going to go, oh, okay, it's been long enough. Yeah, we got them.
Starting point is 00:24:27 No, of course not. They're going to keep it as quiet as possible forever. Can you imagine if it came out in an official capacity that our own government was involved? Involved. Involved. Especially at that time, and they say as much in Rob Reiner's podcast. Rob Reiner's podcast is fantastic.
Starting point is 00:24:44 If you look at it, because he does, he does the facts. It's like Kennedy said, listen, he was the peace president. He goes against the CIA and goes past him and says, it goes to Russia and says, let's figure this out. Right. Let's figure this out. Let's take care of the Cuban Missile Crisis. Let's just get past that. He makes the speech. He says in the Oval Office, I'm going to disband the CIA, you know, brick by brick.
Starting point is 00:25:09 It's going to piss off a lot of people. Right. Right. And then Oswald don't. even get me started. But all, that's a different podcast. Yep. But the reason I bring it up is because he talks about at that time that there was a, um, it was right after like from the end of the mid 40s, from the end of the war leading up to like that point, everyone, no, you never distrusted the government. And it was the first time that people started questioning the government. And even like
Starting point is 00:25:39 when you go back to Roswell and you look at something crashed. Oh my God, there's you a They reported UFO crashed. And it was like, oh my God. And then the next day is a balloon. Okay, it's a balloon. And everybody just bought it because it's like the government does what they told you. And now we don't live in that kind of time anymore,
Starting point is 00:25:57 especially after the fact that you can see people get lied to left and right. But because there's all this kind of, it's just out there now and because of social media and because of these different things that are going out there, it's going to, it's a little scary though, because... It's very scary.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Because the thing for me is that I did like the idea of the disclosure plan of gradually doing it. And I understood. I always understood that there's certain things that we should know about. Yeah. And there's certain things to know because not necessarily for people getting scared, but because of what Grush said, other governments working on things. Right. You're going to get to a place that if you're not careful, people who just want...
Starting point is 00:26:40 I say, you know what? I'm just going to release this stuff. get this stuff out, and you're going to start seeing things that you weren't supposed to see, maybe ever. And, you know, it sounds cool when you hear really, oh, I'd love to see that. But it could be detrimental to a lot of different things. And, by the way, little housekeeping last week where you were talking about that video that was with James Fox and meant to say Logan Paul, said Aaron Paul, I'm breaking back. And it basically, not Aaron Paul.
Starting point is 00:27:13 He didn't have it. He didn't have it. He's like, you know, like Mr. White. I found some aliens. God, I wish it was Aaron Paul. It would have been great. It was Aaron Paul. But, you know, it was in Logan Paul. Yes, thank you, but all right, look.
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Starting point is 00:30:33 All right, Mark, let's cover what the hell's going on here with this bill. Yeah. Okay. From the Hill here, this is part of it. Look, there's so many different articles and so many different tweets and everything, too, they will cover as much of it as we can.
Starting point is 00:30:44 This is the biggest story that's going on right now. A bipartisan group of House lawmakers made a public appeal for transparency over reports of identified aerial phenomena Thursday after it was reported top leaders in both chambers were attempting to kill legislation related to the effort. Some members have stonewalled our efforts to get transparency, and this is unacceptable,
Starting point is 00:31:06 says Anna Polina Luna during a press conference that she convened. No one member. is above another and the American people deserve to know as much about the existence in this universe as possible. They certainly have a right to know about whether or not if their safety is threatened, she added. Interest in the UAP sightings has exploded since a July House hearing when three former Defense Department officials gave testimony on their experience with phenomena, warning that the sightings could pose national security risk. A bipartisan coalition
Starting point is 00:31:36 that includes Luna, Tim Burchett, Matt Gates, Jared Moskowitz, and Eric Burrell is a group that calls itself the UAP caucus, has pledged to bring more transparency to the topic. Included in that effort is a UAP-related amendment in the Senate's version of the annual National Defense Authorization Act, a provision introduced by Senate Majority, Chuck Schumer, and Senator Mike Rounds. The Disclosure Act would require the release of government records on UAP no more than 25 years after their creation unless they are found to be enough of a risk to national security that they require further classification. who would also create an official UAP records collection and establish a review board for the office.
Starting point is 00:32:17 A version of the act seemed assured to be included in the final NDA as the House has a similar provision included in its version of the massive defense policy bill. Both chambers passed their NDAAs in July and have been negotiating a final version of the legislation. But late last week, the reports that the House Armed Services, Mike Rogers, Mike Turner, were going to squash the act.
Starting point is 00:32:39 The two even appear to have the support of Mitch McConnell, and Mike Johnson in their effort. So Thursday, they did a press conference, and then at the time of this, on Monday, this was the thing that Chuck Schumer said. Finally, on UAE's, while it's not related to China, House Republicans are also attempting
Starting point is 00:32:58 to kill another common sense, bipartisan measure passed by the Senate, which I was proud to co-sponsor with Senator Rounds as the lead sponsor, to increase transparency around what the government does and does not know about. unidentified aerial phenomena. Unidentified aerial phenomena generate intense curiosity for many
Starting point is 00:33:18 Americans and the risk for confusion and misinformation is high if the government isn't willing to be transparent. The measure I championed with Senator Rounds would create a board just like we did with the JFK assassination records to work through the declassification of many government records on UAPs. This model's been a terrific success for decades. It should be used again with UAPs and but once again, House Republicans are ready to kill this bipartisan provision. Now we're going to get the NDA done this year, just like we have for more than six decades, but there's still some more work to do.
Starting point is 00:33:54 All right, so that's definitely disappointing, and you can hear the kind of frustration in Schumer's voice. Very much. Yeah, if you follow Joe Mergeo, who is, he chronicles all this stuff on UAPs. I think he was just unweaponized, I think, last week as well, too. He's a great follow on Twitter. He's at the UFO Joe. And he gives a great breakdown on all this stuff about the stuff that we need and the fact that what he's writing. One of the things that I did like what he wrote is that someone wrote,
Starting point is 00:34:25 after base of what Chuck Schumer said, someone said, Chuck thinks that JFK disclassification process has been a terrific success for decades, which basically tells us all we need to know. Real disclosure isn't going to come from this charade no matter what the language of the bill is. is just like the JFK files that we never got. To which Joe responded to, and he said, I think we've received 99% of the JFK files. If that happens with UFOs, I'd be pretty happy.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Schumer rounds isn't perfect, but it will help get the ball rolling in a big way. I agree with that. I agree with that as well. It's like it's not going to get everything done, but it's going to be better than we have now. This is the like the stone age of UFO transparency. Because up until six years ago,
Starting point is 00:35:09 go, people were like, well, they might, I don't know, they could be real, kind of shying to the side. Now it's like, when you really pay attention to, like, anybody, the people now that are saying, like, it's the naive people now are the ones going, well, there's nothing in the sky. Because people are telling you this stuff in the sky. People are telling you, there was an argument beforehand that there wasn't anything in the sky. Yeah, it's a weather balloon. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, whatever. Right. President Obama said, there are things that, we cannot identify in the scot. There are things that we don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Now, for people who go, well, it's foreign aircraft. You don't think that they're going to be on that, like, stink on shit. Right. To find out who's got what and how the hell we can get to that thing? You would hope so? Yeah, it's like, if they know, like, well, look, we think that if it was the Russians or if it was China or if it was anybody, they're like, they would say they have a type of technology that we're trying to pay attention to.
Starting point is 00:36:09 and we don't know what it is, and we need to have a meeting with the world leaders. So it's like something like that. And where you have all these people, because you can't catch it. And you don't know what it is. And if you did, if you had all these different programs and there's things that are out there, you want to keep it quiet.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And that's what's happening. They're keeping it quiet overall. But as I said, now it's more and more people like are asking questions. And I still do have, and I'm sure you do too, where people are like, oh, they don't exist. Well, yes, they do. We just don't know what they are. Yeah, we're not saying they're aliens.
Starting point is 00:36:42 I mean, that's, at this point I am. At this point I am. I'm fine with that. I am too. Because it's just, it becomes this, you know, you're relying on the Martians are coming. Right. That, that conceit is so right up there with Sasquatch, dragons, wizards, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I've said at every show.
Starting point is 00:37:04 What are they, though? I mean, we don't have to say it. They don't necessarily have to be aliens. If they are China or Russia. What's the disclosure of what just don't, that's what I said earlier to where I talked to the skeptics here of saying, okay, fine, it's not interdimensional, it's not aliens, but we just want to know what it is it.
Starting point is 00:37:26 What is it? Because if, that's it. Because what, the reason why they're not saying, okay, sure, because normally what they would do, like they did back with Project Blue Book and all those things, like, yeah, yeah, you know what we're going to do? know what we're going to do. We're going to put this committee together. We're going to give this committee together like they do with the AARO or whatever. We're going to put this committee
Starting point is 00:37:46 together. And what did you guys get? Remember what we told you didn't see? Oh, we got a balloon, a weather balloon in Roswell. We got this. Oh, there were no planes, but people saw some planes. Oh, there were planes, but it was a training exercise. What about the thing over at the O'Hare National Airport? Nothing. We didn't see anything, but people saw some. Oh, we saw something, but it was a, it was a it was a weather thing. So just tell them that kind of stuff. And now you can't do that with this committee that Schumer and then were trying to propose
Starting point is 00:38:15 because that's the whole point of the committee. It's to say, no, no, no, no, no, no. We want to do our investigation, not you guys. And they're like, no, no, block that immediately. You, we're going to pay more money for you. And by the way, the other thing we want you to do is make sure, no matter what, we need you to get Burchette out. So they're trying to, inside of his own?
Starting point is 00:38:37 Yeah. Party. The same dude, Mike, whatever's face is, is trying to get him, Burchett, out. And why do you think that is? They don't want to share their secrets. They don't want to share, they have something to hide. Yeah, no shit.
Starting point is 00:38:55 And that is what's going on. And I've, listen, I've seen enough of my own two eyes. I really have now. These videos that came out, the videos that, the ones that are put up on these websites by the government, covered it a few shows ago, you can go and look. They have been declassified, I guess you want to say.
Starting point is 00:39:15 They show something that absolutely bends all the laws of gravity I've ever seen. Right. You know, flying across it, I've seen, I've been on record many times saying I have my own experience, but the videos that I've seen
Starting point is 00:39:33 in conjunction with what I've seen, I have enough to go on that there is something up there. Aliens, I don't know. Martians, I don't know, interdimensional beings, Russia, China, I don't know. Right. Just let's talk about it. If you don't know, then say it. Then say it.
Starting point is 00:39:52 That's what we always say. So we just spoke about Gary Nolan before. Here's a tweet that Gary Nolan wrote about all this going down to. I've been advocating for greater transparency around UAP for over a decade. Now, Senator Chuck Schumer and Senator Ramp. in a bipartisan fashion are pushing through an unprecedented bill that will bring it all out into the light. House intel and armed services are trying to block it. The UAP amendment would create an oversight committee of public hard scientists, economists,
Starting point is 00:40:21 social scientists, religious leaders, and ethicists to look into this issue. This is what we said. If there's nothing to hide, why are the aerospace companies and the DOD trying to kill the bill? Shout out to representatives, Luna, Gates, Moskowitz, Prachet, and others in the House for their work on this. This is about the science and the right to understand. Anyone with an interest in good science should advocate for passing of this bill. Yes. Good science.
Starting point is 00:40:49 That's great. That's perfect. It was. That's exactly what I would love to follow the science on this. Right. Because the transparency is one story. Then you have to back it up with science, I believe. If you pull back the veil and you get some scientists and you get some minds in there and you go, what is this?
Starting point is 00:41:07 I don't know. I mean, that's what NASA did, essentially. And, you know, the mainstream media covers it. There's no aliens when NASA didn't say that exactly. So we don't really know what that is. We're ruling out extraterrestrial right now. But, but, but we don't know what that is. But the other question is this.
Starting point is 00:41:24 And this is another tweet from Tom DeLange, right, who says, why is this not front page news? The Chuck Schumer. This is Chuck Schumer. Senior Majority Leader Chuck Schumer. Yeah. Who's tweeting on this and talking. This isn't some lunatic who's, you know. I know.
Starting point is 00:41:40 And it's not covered anywhere. That's weird. It's because our arm, if there was a mention of Trump in there, that would be probably covered. No, it probably wouldn't because it had UAP in there. It's not being covered. It's weird, dude. It's the same thing in the way that like.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I just think people freaking want to believe it. No. It's not just that. There's something else there because there are other things that they cover that people don't believe or they think that's lunacy or they think that's crazy to not to report it in a way of saying like the Senate, the majority leader tweeted this out. If you're sitting, because look, as much as I did, there's two reporters on the hill and the woman is always the skeptical one and she kind of still does that thing when she's talking. She's like, I don't know. But she's covering it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:29 She's covering it. I don't like her take on it, but I respect her for covering it. She covers it all the time and talks about it all the time. If the majority leader tweets this out, how in the world are you, if you're like Lester Holt, are you not covering this? If you're like, you know, if you're on whatever it is, I'm not telling you to believe it. I'm telling you to cover it. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Because it's like, hey, did you see what the majority leader just tweeted out? There's some bill that's really important as far as this UAP stuff. I don't know what it is, but we should be covering it. because the other reason is the argument could be, well, no one would watch it. Bullshit, when you look at News Nation, they post little clips of the stuff going on in the world,
Starting point is 00:43:06 whether it's the election, they're doing the primaries right now, and it's not pulling dick. Every time they post a video on UAP, it's like seven times the views that they normally get. Imagine if one of the big outlets started covering it, they would have three, four, five times the amount of views. It's not that.
Starting point is 00:43:25 There's something else. nefarious going on with these networks there's something else nefarious there's no there's no other explanation it's it's ridiculous i don't know i don't think they believe people want to know these things maybe i i think there's a million reasons dude there's no way there's no way there's i mean you then you then they shouldn't have their job yeah they agree and i'm talking like you know respected reporters and everything too who like you can look at it and you can say look man there's like like i said if it was just a bunch of people and like nothing against Stephen Greer, but if Stephen Greer's out there doing,
Starting point is 00:43:58 as Stephen Greer had a conference and he said this, but he says that all the time, what books he's selling? I get it. Yes. Did you see the freaking tweet that Schumer just put out? Yes. What is it? It's about this thing, this bill, they want transparency. It's a story. That is, it's a story. It's the biggest story
Starting point is 00:44:14 in my lifetime, one of them. I mean, if you would have told me at 10 years old that our government is trying to pull back the veil on what's up there. I'd say you're crazy. I'd be scared too because I'm probably 10 years old.
Starting point is 00:44:31 So let's move to 15. Okay, 15 years old, do you tell me that? I would have said you're crazy. Yeah, I love what this guy did, though. This guy, Mary Mistenthrop, who I'm sure is not the only person that did this. And I think everybody should do this. Yeah, tagging all the... Why is this not front page news?
Starting point is 00:44:47 And he tagged Washington Post, New York Times, Chicago Tribune, L.A. Times, Miami Herald, Seattle Times, S.F. Chronicles. like what what are you do I mean this is this is nuts so it is part it is okay I'll put on my conspiracy hat it it goes down to probably some of these
Starting point is 00:45:06 major news organizations are owned by certain people that's exactly right right down to the you know you know don't do that don't do that we want to squelch us to fucking know I'm sorry pardon my French it's nefarious it is it feels nefarious whether it is or isn't it probably is
Starting point is 00:45:24 But it feels it because every time something, I mean, you keep saying it. Now I'm getting pissed. You have Schumer out there going, hey, and nobody's like, eh. Because here's the thing. Yeah, if it's a crazy person, then it's Schumer. Schumer's lost his mind. Schumer's crazy now. He's tweeting about UFOs trying to get U.S.
Starting point is 00:45:44 And so is Breschette. And so is, you know, all the different people that are in there doing this. And if he is. How is that not a story? I know. How is that not a story if like the freaking, the majority leader is, you? tweeting about this stuff. How do you not say, like they have little side stories. Oh, cheerleader broke her foot and then came back. And now the whole high school is,
Starting point is 00:46:03 is now, you know, has rallied behind her because she's still able to do a cheer on one foot. And they do that story. And they don't do this. It's like, cover it for five minutes and say, this is what's going on in the world, just to let everybody know. This is, it is weird. I'm not telling you this report it as if it's factual or real. I'm telling you to report it because that's going on in the freaking house. Right. Just the fact that Schumer is on Twitter saying this is news enough. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:32 I think there could be nefarious reasons. I also believe in conjunction with that, there are a ton of people out there. I always bring up my wife. They just, nah, they don't even, it doesn't even register to them. But why do you think that is also? Because the media doesn't control. They don't share it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Because for her, your wife, when she says, oh, me and Christian are covering this today, You nerds, right? Right. And she doesn't, and she doesn't follow for that. Doesn't look into it. And then when she sees it on, you watching it on like, you know, YouTube or something along those lines. But if you're watching, if you're watching the news with her and it was the leading story that they were trying. She'd be like, oh, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:47:09 This is probably getting a little more real now. Yes, exactly. It should be the lead story on. And again, not to have people saying, like, we clearly feel passionate about what's going on. But for you guys who are tuning in for the first time to try to figure out, What is all of this? And then going, hey, this is what's happening in the world right now. This is what's happening in the house right now.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Like, because, and I know some people are going to go, well, there's other things in the world that's happening. Yes. Oh, yeah. But when they are those, but if you watch the news programs, they cover the war that's going on right now. And then they cover a few other things. This should be one of those other things. It's so, it's crazy. Like, you can't look at this.
Starting point is 00:47:54 after Chuck Schumer posts this out and not say, why aren't they covering? Now, I hope I'm wrong. I hope we're not going tonight to watch the news that it's covered, but I'm pretty sure it won't be. Yeah, I go to ABC World News. I watch it every night. It's one of the main sources of my news.
Starting point is 00:48:14 And when the hearings happen, it was a 30, probably less 32nd mention at the end of the program. Why? I don't know. Right. Right. It just becomes this thing. Again, I think it's, it's, it's hard to convince people to take this seriously. Yeah. Well, look, here's all the way up, all the way up the totem pole, right to the top. Yes. And here's another. This is, again, this is speaking in News Nation who is covering it and they cover it off you. And that, and that could be because they found their bread and butter and good on them for making some money on it. Right. It's probably both. It's probably both. And the fact that they're the one of the only real outlets that are actually cut. covering it. They've seen results on it, but now when you really dive into it and you're finding out this information, you start to form an opinion on it, right? That's all I want is people to just get to make their own opinion on this, whether it's like the eye test.
Starting point is 00:49:07 But that's it, but listen. So as I just mentioned that reporter on the Hill, that she doesn't believe in it, you can tell she doesn't believe in it, but she reports on it, she has the conversation about it. And then you have the other guy who's starting to kind of come around to it and say, yeah, there's a lot of kind of crazy stuff. You don't think, All the employees at CNN, Fox, all these different outlets, there's not five to ten people that are going, I wonder what's going on out there. And they're not reporting on it because they're not allowed to. They're not allowed to report.
Starting point is 00:49:40 They're not allowed to talk about it. They're not allowed to talk about it. And here's, this is the report over at News Nation that I want to play. Okay. No mainstream media is covering. Just within the last couple of hours, Senate Majority Leader Chuck, Schumer has been pleading from the Senate floor that lawmakers do not kill his amendment, requiring the U.S. government to tell you what they really know about UFOs. You have to wonder,
Starting point is 00:50:05 why is there such a fight for lawmakers to kill this bill? And it's all developing right now. What do they not want you to know? Right now, we're really at the precipice. We'll know soon whether or not this bill survives or dies and whether the American people will get to learn the truth about all of this, joining us now live from the Capitol, who's been joining, following all of this is News Nation's Joe Khalil. Joe, tell us the latest. Yeah, Brian, so in some ways, this is not that surprising, given News Nation has actually been covering this since last week that the Schumer amendment to the big defense bill, which, by the way, if passed, would be an unprecedented level of disclosure about these UAP or UFO files that the government has been classifying for
Starting point is 00:50:54 years, that it was in trouble. We knew that. And we knew that the sort of push behind its opposition was a group of House Republicans, specifically those within the Intelligence Committee. That's what our sources had been saying. But what is surprising is that Leader Schumer brought this to the floor today and chose to make it one of the big subjects that he talked about addressing the entire country and the Senate. And I want to, before we go any further give everyone at home a chance to hear exactly what Senator Schumer had to say. So, Brian, there are every day hundreds of fights that go on behind the scenes here on Capitol Hill. The fact that Leader Schumer has now brought this to the forefront indicates that
Starting point is 00:51:39 this is no longer going to be something that is being handled behind closed doors, but rather we're going to see maybe a more public posture and people who are working on this issue come forward more in the spotlight to sort of hash out their differences here. Certainly very telling that he was talking about it today from the Senate floor. Kim is somewhat of a surprise, like you mentioned, with everything going on in the world, that he brought that up today. It shows how intense the fight is getting. What I can't figure out, Joe, is why is this group of lawmakers fighting this so hard?
Starting point is 00:52:10 I mean, it just makes you wonder if there really is something that they know about that they don't want the American people to see. So it's a really good question. It's one that we've tried to get answers to. Last week, we spoke with the chairman of the House Intellectual. committee, Mike Turner. He basically only gave us one response to one question and then sort of walked away, and that was the end of it. We've been trying to email and text because essentially what the amendment does, I mean, it's 64 pages or so, so it actually accomplishes a lot.
Starting point is 00:52:40 But in a nutshell, it uses language we've never seen before. It actually says in the text of the bill that would require disclosure for all records dealing with, quote, non-human intelligence. which is something that, you know, if you're just on its surface, it sort of blows you away that that language is in this kind of text. So if that, theoretically, is just bogus and there's absolutely nothing there and it's crazy and conspiracy and all of that, you would assume that passing that bill wouldn't really have any harmful effects. It would accomplish nothing, right? So it does beg the question as to why there is such strong opposition to it and why so many people who may be leading that opposition won't answer the question of why they're opposed to it. We heard Chairman Turner tell us that he felt like the language was poorly written and he didn't think it was going to pass ultimately but didn't elaborate as to what in the language was poorly written or specifics that he had issues with.
Starting point is 00:53:45 So that continues to be a question. And again, I go back to the fact that Schumer is now talking about this publicly. Maybe some of those disagreements will happen out in the open. And we can have a more transparent discussion about why people are opposing it, why they're not. Yeah. So, I mean, come on. And listen, so this is what I'm talking about. So that's a report from like News Nation.
Starting point is 00:54:07 They're talking about imagine that every news outlet was having that conversation, that exact conversation. That would do a lot to move this forward. you'd get more people that are watching this thing. Yeah. There would be more people that will possibly change their mind. Maybe there would be more people that would add to their skepticism. I don't know. But if you get people that are knocking on the door, calling your senator going, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:54:30 What is that? Wait a minute. What is this? Just pass it. Just pass it. Just pass it to say, like, as they said, if it was so silly, we're like, oh, yeah, they want to find non-human bodies. Okay, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Pass it. Yeah, nothing to hide. Fine. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Put your reputation on this thing.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Go ahead. Correct. Go ahead. And the fact that, and then it's telling. Mike Turner, what is it? Oh, it's the language. It's terribly written. So what is that language?
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Starting point is 00:58:34 the mainstream coverage of it all and even says no in the start of that report nobody's covering this yeah why and it's like it's so bizarre because if you had that conversation with all of the outlets where the outlets if you imagine if you just have two of the anchors and they're going again they're skeptical but i got to ask the questions like what are they trying to put it if like if ABC NBC Fox all these places we're covering this and putting it out there with that exact same conversation like that's going to get people going oh, it's going to get the word out there. It is.
Starting point is 00:59:07 How do you not think it's nefarious that they're not covering? It's free. I mean, look, every other day before today, I mean, the hearings, one. The hearings they covered like at the end of the show, and it's fine. Okay. If you're not covering, okay. But this is, again, a bill that they're trying to put together at the end of the hearing side of this military bill.
Starting point is 00:59:30 It's a United States story. And it is military too And it is These things If you believe them If you think there's something else up there If you look at some of the Senate hearings
Starting point is 00:59:48 And some of the accounts From like grave in his squadron Where he sits there And he looks at one of his buddies That he's been flying with for years And years and years and years And his buddy looks at him and goes One of those things almost hit us
Starting point is 01:00:01 That is National security issue. Right. That is putting our pilots at risk. At risk. Yeah. So why wouldn't you want to just go, okay, let's investigate this? If they almost hit a freaking flying drone controlled by a 13-year-old on the ground, tell us.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Exactly. Okay? Tell us. That's fine. Yeah. But it just, I don't know. And there is part never. I wouldn't put it past some of these people to just believe that it.
Starting point is 01:00:33 It's this absolute horseshit that they believe they are at the center of the universe and that stuff doesn't exist. And don't even question it because they believe that we are the only things out there in the universe. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, I mean, I wouldn't put it past them. Look, it really can make you question your entire worldview, which some people aren't really interested in doing, I would say. But this should also show you more so how you are not in control. Mm-hmm. You're not in control.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Like, you're as much as the government. Well, the government's, it works for the people. No, they don't. Not really. At all. It's not not really. Our government now is, they are run by people that are just in it to win it. Now, dude, we were just talking about JET.
Starting point is 01:01:16 JFK, I know. Look at, there's a piece in there about the memo. Remember the memo in that thing where he threw it in its fireplace and then rode up another one? I want to read. I'm going to read all that stuff. But look, here's, so here is, this is Christopher Mell. and who's obviously very much respected in this community, responded to the Schumer tweet and said this.
Starting point is 01:01:40 If Rep Rogers opposes having a special UAP committee formed in the House, then all the more reason for him to support the Schumer UAP records, review provisions on behalf of accountability and transparency. And so this is why it just does not make sense, and there's something weird going on where it's like, You got to have an answer to why you're blocking it. You got to have an answer. It's written poorly?
Starting point is 01:02:10 You're talking about it? It's written poorly? And as you said, which parts? You don't answer it? Right. That's bizarre. That stinks. And that is another reason as I keep going over the same point.
Starting point is 01:02:23 If you're watching this show, then you're going to get that. Maybe it's the first time you're going, oh, I didn't know about this. This is interesting. And yeah, why aren't the answer in those questions? And if you're watching, if you don't watch this show and you don't ever know that this thing even happens, tons of people that we hang out with that we don't know about this bill at all. But they watch the news every day.
Starting point is 01:02:44 They watch the news and they talk and they follow the main stories, but this is not because if they don't, this is the main reason why, and you said it before, but the reason why to me it's nefarious. Because they know if they don't cover it in the main stories all the time, people will continue to not take it serious. And it's not that they don't take it. serious, it's that they
Starting point is 01:03:04 know they're wherever it's coming from. It's coming from somewhere. Do not report on this. Yeah. Oh, I buy that. They don't want, they, they, they don't want people asking questions. They don't want, they don't want it to spread. Too bad. It's spread, it's going.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Don't bring up that meet the press thing for me. It was like the side version of the meet the press show and it was like a little segment and as Riley said it wasn't it wasn't a full-on kind of report on it all. It wasn't even about this bill. It was dropping on a Sunday. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:37 You know what I mean? It's kind of like, I mean, that in itself for me is like they're not taking it seriously. You know, it did feel like. Let's get some clicks. Let's get some views.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Yeah, it felt like a wink and a nod. And I said, you know, and I said to, hey, at least they're shining a little bit of light on this right now on a Sunday. It puts it out there in general,
Starting point is 01:03:53 almost in the same way that like ancient aliens did. Yeah. You know what I mean? The ancient alien stuff for me just didn't. No, ring true for me. No, it wasn't, that wasn't the stuff. That wasn't their point.
Starting point is 01:04:02 That wasn't the thing that got me into wanting to ask more questions. It was the people like Ryan Graves and Fravor. That's where everything changed, yeah, changed for me. And it's like, and more so now, like, I would never imagine a million years that I would have, that, that Schumer would be up there with, with a, with a bill. This is the thing he's fighting for today. Right. Like, today?
Starting point is 01:04:23 Like, that's crazy. And, like, it shows the importance. Yes. And put it, put it also to, to some, people saying, well, there's other things going on in the world, right? Yeah, Schumer is at the forefront of that. If we're talking about what's going on in the Middle East right now in Israel, Schumer, a Jewish senator is really fighting for that right now,
Starting point is 01:04:44 but also made the time to go out there and say, we need disclosure, we need transparency. This is why I'm sponsoring this bill. It is getting a ton of support, and people are talking about it online. And Twitter obviously is ablaze with it for sure. But more people, like, retweet it. You know, go to Schumer's thing. When the time this comes out, it'll be Tuesday morning when this comes out.
Starting point is 01:05:10 So people will still be talking about it. But like, go find Schumer's thing. Retweet it. Find that tweet about the, and I've retweeted a few from the big thing podcast, Twitter feed. Find that. Retweet that. Ask people questions. Like, why is this being ignored?
Starting point is 01:05:26 Why is this being blocked? It's a good question. It doesn't make sense. It just doesn't make sense. And again, I'm being very clear here that our intent is not by saying, hey, guys, there's aliens out there, and you guys need to know that it's real. No. What you need to know is that your government right there, or if you're watching from another country, that a government from another country has potential information about particular craft or whatever it might be.
Starting point is 01:05:56 might be, or they don't, but people are saying that they do. And here's an amendment that says, we need to find out exactly what everybody knows and whatever we do, we'll tell the public. So if it's nothing to worry about, or if it's nothing at all, then we're going to let you know. They're not even letting them do that. Right. They're not even letting them do that. Why?
Starting point is 01:06:15 Why are they not letting them do that? Isn't that a question we should all be asking? We should be asking, why are you not letting them do that? And if you had a full answer to where I could say, look, They asked this dude, whatever his name was, Mike Face, and they say, hey, what is it? Why don't you want it? He said, well, the reason why is inside this bill, it's dangerous because of this, this, this, and this. We don't think that it's right to go at the moment because of this, this, this, this, and this.
Starting point is 01:06:45 But to say it's poorly written, and then when asked what's poorly written and you walk away, that's shady, man. Yeah. Shady. I don't know, Riley. I don't know where we're at here. It's disheartening to see that this could be shot down. When Schumer is just saying, I mean, I really stand by just as simple as this, there is a lot of misinformation out there. Especially when you put it on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Because in the same conversation of us talking about Schumer and the UAP bell and some transparency, the next tweet will be, I was just abducted by an alien and they stuck a probe up my ass. You know, it is all in the same. It's couched in the same kind of thing on Twitter. You can go down a rabbit hole. Right. You know, the grays versus the blues, and it's an intergalactic war that's raging for millennia. That's hard to, that's hard to swallow.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Yeah. But seeing something up there and wondering what the hell it is, is a little bit easier. It is. And here's the final thing. Again, this is another report that came through from the Daily Mail that is an exclusive, that, and I think it came out in that report itself. but what they say, again, the U.S. military is seeing UFOs in space, and this is an official report.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Again, this is a leak that came out through the Space Force. U.S. Space Force released a plan to identify and track anomalous UFO sightings. Space Force said the unknown objects disrupt its threat identification mission. The Pentagon branched tasked with protecting America from space-based threats, local and galactic, has detected thousands of UFOs in Earth's orbit. Dailymail.com can reveal. U.S. Space Force, America's newest military branch created under President Trump in 2019,
Starting point is 01:08:37 told the personnel this month that the sightings were so regular that they're hindering threat identification the branch's core mission. While many of the sightings will prove to be man-made space junk and natural debris like meteorites, U.S. foreign adversaries continue to launch spy satellites like North Korea's new Maligong One and the other covert orbital platforms. One new concern, Space Force noted,
Starting point is 01:09:00 the risk of threatening spacecraft hidden in the large unwashed area between Earth and the Moon dubbed Sinhaler orbit. In their new report published this month, Space Force leadership emphasized the importance of finding these grave threats among mere hazards like space junk. But the military branch also went into considerable detail on a weirder new category of potential hazards and threats understrand. scrutiny. Space Forces mandate to rapidly identify and respond to threats and hazards,
Starting point is 01:09:27 the strategy document noted also includes objects that exhibit abnormal, observables, and patterns of life and cannot be correlated to any owner or point of origin. Dailymail.com has reached out to Starcom Space Forces Space Training and Readiness Command, which published the new document for detailed clarification on its precise meaning by the terms abnormal, observables, and patterns of life. In recent years, Pentagon officials tasked with investigating UFO cases, the now famous 2004 Tic Tac have focused their attention on five observables saying they are unique features of serious unexplained phenomena. UAPs check off these observables appear to display either one of the following.
Starting point is 01:10:07 One, gravity-defying behavior. Two, eerily low observability on radar or other sensors. Three, sudden or instantaneous accelerations. Four, hypersonic speeds without signatures like sonic booms. and five so-called transmedium travel between air, sea, and outer space. It's unclear from the Space Force StarCum document, however, whether these five establish UFO techno signatures overlap with their own abnormal observables. It is also unclear what patterns of life have been detected from orbital unknowns.
Starting point is 01:10:40 This is crazy. That's crazy. This is a crazy report, and there's way more inside of this report on Space Force. And again, I hate to be a broken record. How is this not everywhere? That this is a document by Space Force. I know. I know it sounds weird the Space Force,
Starting point is 01:10:58 but it is a legit government thing that was created in the Trump administration. And so again, And here we are. Using the same example I just used that 10 minutes ago. All right. I'm working over at,
Starting point is 01:11:10 give me an outlet, MSNBC. Yeah. All right. Yeah, the Space Force thing. Okay, I have a source over there. Let me find out of this thing. Hey, listen, we have this report that was leaked.
Starting point is 01:11:19 any truth to it whatsoever that this is a leaked document you say no it's not would you have somebody representative say what it actually really is and come on the show and do it so we can just get this over with and do the thing.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Nothing. Yeah. Nothing. This isn't, again, this isn't a few guys who just made up this program. This is an official program. Man.
Starting point is 01:11:39 This is insane. And we're not saying that's talking about this. And we're not saying all those thousands of things that they're saying. They're not saying they're all aliens. They're saying that, I mean,
Starting point is 01:11:48 and that's where it always gets a little muddy because we're talking about things that can be explained. Yeah. A lot of them are within like if you have a thousand sightings and even one of them they can't be explained, then what is it? Then show us. That's the whole point. And then the rest are weather balloons and sunspots and admire our balloons.
Starting point is 01:12:08 But what they're saying inside of this thing is that they have clearly said there are certain things that are zipping across the sky and that are moving in a way that shouldn't move and are going into the sea and coming out, stuff that we've seen. Just like I gave that example before, of the facts and the stories that you continuously have heard over 70 to 80 years. Right. They're all here, and this is all stuff. And there's a reason why they have this program, and they can see all of it.
Starting point is 01:12:32 They can see it. And they are locked into it. Also lending merit to the fact that they have these satellites that are locking these things down. Mm-hmm. I don't know, man. It's like more of these reports like this are going to get leaked. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Yeah. Yeah. And I always go back to the technology is getting greater. I do believe that we are going to possibly have a shared event. I mean, we already have a few in the bucket that people have talked about. I mean, on the MSNBC article, they talked about that siding with 300 people all seeing the same thing. Right. You know, but they kind of just, eh, it's just an alien or it's just a UFO.
Starting point is 01:13:11 It's just kind of whatever. Right. And I think that one of the things that the reason why these things are going to get leaked even more now, though, because a few years back, let's say seven years ago, if you worked on one of these programs or if you worked at one of these and you leaked it, you were worried that no one was really going to have your back. You were going to be looked upon as a kind of a loon.
Starting point is 01:13:34 You can join a side now when you do this. Yeah, yeah. And you couldn't do that. There's more out there. There's more people out there. You can join a side now. You can join a place. Yes, there are still going to be people.
Starting point is 01:13:45 You're still on the side. of the, there are people that could hurt you bad as far as maybe not, I'm not assuming physical, although possible, but more so career-wise. Grecious, but to be believed. Yeah, well, certain things that he said is that he's been threatened and some other things, but his career has certainly been threatened. That's still there, but you have more of a community now, people that you're not going to go, oh, that's the crazy guy.
Starting point is 01:14:12 That's not going to happen anymore, especially if you have the credentials. If you have the credentials, yeah. People are going to go, why is this person now coming forward? And that actually needs to happen more. And I think it's going to happen more. Talking about whistleblowers, right? Yeah, I think there will be. I think there's going to be more of this stuff that the Daily Mail is going to get more of these reports.
Starting point is 01:14:29 I think they're going to keep getting more of the reports. And because the thing with Daily Mail and News Nation and things like that, they're also lucking out that these people aren't covering it because they're the place to go, even though it should be everywhere. It should be everywhere. And it's unfortunate, too, no offense to News Nation or Daily Mail, but that's not where people are going. No. You know, they really aren't. And you hear those, you know, you can maybe classify him as the inquire, you know, with certain people. And that's unfortunate.
Starting point is 01:14:58 I think news nation is getting more legit or at least. Yeah, I think so. Because they also have people, you know, granted, I know that Chris Cuomo had his scandals and things that when he was from working with Canada. But he's, he's legitimate. He had a legitimate show for a long time. He's got a legitimate show over there, too. Ross Colhart was the one who broke the story. with grassy. I hate that when you say that because at Cuomo,
Starting point is 01:15:18 yeah, then you're going to get people who say, well, because Cuomo did X, Y, and Z, you're not going to be taken seriously. You can look at, I mean, they do. They get people who have, you know, been out in their luck, but they still have legit careers, right? And there's tons of people who have that stuff on the more legit networks, if you will.
Starting point is 01:15:37 But it doesn't take away from the fact that this is something that should be reported on. And I don't know. And I'm very curious what you guys think. We've talked about it for a bit here today. Please let me know. As I say, we're trying to build this community up. We want to get people in and this conversation.
Starting point is 01:15:53 We want you guys to be in on it every week in order to do so. You've got to hit that button. Get us to 200,000 faster than we got to 100 so we can sit here. We can talk to about it with you guys. Have the conversation each and every week. Get the word out. You know, look, we're not one of the big outlets, you know, but if we have to be the outlet for you guys to get the stories of what the hell's going on,
Starting point is 01:16:12 we are more than happy to do it. There are a lot of great people out there that are doing it. A lot of people who are actually, like, I'd always recommend, obviously, Jeremy Corbell and George Naps. So they've been in it, they were sitting behind David Gresh, for God's sakes,
Starting point is 01:16:25 at the hearing. So I would recommend their podcast to listen to. There's other shows that you can definitely get information for people who are really in the know on this stuff, to Ryan Graves, as we just mentioned, as a podcast. We're going to be here trying to represent
Starting point is 01:16:36 you guys and your voices of the people trying to figure it out in real time the same way you are. So from my buddy, Mark, Mark, where can they find you? On the internet at Riley Around, R-E-I-L-L-Y around. See you there. For me, Mark and I also do two shows a week on Patreon.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Sorry, two shows a month on Patreon, which is an extra bonus episode. We usually talk about the things that we're going to lead up to the next UAP. We take some questions from you guys. So if you head on over to patreon.com slash the big thing show, you can join over there. That's really it. Again, Apple Podcast, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found. Thanks for joining us here today. I appreciate you very much.
Starting point is 01:17:15 We'll see you next time. Bye-bye.

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