The Kristian Harloff Show - Loki Series Finale Spoiler Review, Time Travel and Kate Watched Rocky | The Big Thing

Episode Date: July 16, 2021

Loki series is over and Kristian watched the episode and gave his overall thoughts. Kate watched Rocky 1 and Terminator and Kristian talks about time line jumping again. Follow on Twitter Kristian Harloff https://bit.ly/31PePMD Kate Mulligan https://bit.ly/3owBneT Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That's the big thing. And then obviously every other day we've got movie trivia Shmodown up on the main YouTube channel. But on the podcast feed, it's the big thing. A big thing that we talk about. There'll be a lot of different stories and things I love that you guys are digging the stand-up stories and the relationship of advice apparently from me and step which has been fun at the very least but today i talk to my pal kate amulagan hello i pranks kate yeah christian just pranked me real good yeah so i'm both salty right now good good good good and uh my heart rates up i love it so

unfortunately unfortunately we can't talk about it because it's it was a fun it was a fun prank Was it though? I thought so. It's good. And let me ask you a question. Yeah. What do you think about this? Look at that guy.

He's coming to, this is, for those people, for the audio listeners, there's a picture of a little pug. And he's coming to the show. He's coming to the show on, well, we get him on August 15th. I don't know when he's going to be on the show. But I'm so excited. I just want to say, the bit that you hated you just did. For the audio listeners.

You said that. I hate that. I never said that I hate that. It's just it's it was it was when you did that's the bit. That's the bit of the year. That's the bit of the year. That's the that that's not loving the bit. It's so funny. But when I gave it to Alex because we talked and he's like because you were like, I think Alex is really upset. And I thought. I'm upset. Alex knows how to play it. Yeah. He competed very well at the FCL the other day. I didn't see. Did I? Good. I support him. I love him. I support. Are you watching Loki by the way? I'm not, but you know what I did watch yesterday? What's that? Rocky. The first one that we talked about. The first one that we talked about. The

First, and we talked about it. Here's what. I did start getting sleepy towards, like, it was going to be the big fight. And I was like, I got to pull it. So I did not see the, yeah, I didn't see the full fight. That movie. It's phenomenal, isn't it? It's an art movie.

Why did I think it was going to be a boxing movie? Well, because the first movie is, it is an absolute art movie because it, when you, especially, do you know any of the story? Like, not the actual story, but like how he got it. Like, they didn't want him. They didn't want Stallone? No, it was a nobody. I want to suck his. beautiful luscious lips off his face.

He's such a, he's such a babe. I wish you wouldn't have jacked his face up. Well, I mean, he got old, you know, but like. Well, but he also got work, didn't he? I don't. I think he didn't. Either way. So he, like, the movie, I think it costs like $200,000 to me because I'm

ridiculous. It costs, or maybe a million. I can't, something very, it was like a million dollars. It was something very, very little to make. And they had no budget, but they also, who was that? Who's that? Who's doing that? I want you to stop that.

I want you to stop that right now because it's unprofessional. It doesn't work. It's unprofessional. I don't like it. But, yeah, this is the movie itself, he wrote it. And they're like, oh, okay, great, we'll pay whatever it was, $60,000. They're $6,000. That's a lot of money.

And he didn't, but he didn't take it because he said, I want to play. And like, no one knows who you are. You were in Lords of Flatbush. You can't play this character. I think, like, I want to tell you was a Robert Redford was. somebody that was up for... Is this his first thing? It's his first, like, real big starring role, yeah. He fought for it. Holy shit. Yeah, you watch, like, the making of it, like, and everything of how it all came to be and, like, what he was going to do.

And, like, it's phenomenal. The movie gets nominated for an Oscar. He gets nominated for, you know, a best actor award. It wins, I think it wins, it wins best picture. Oh, my God. Because he, I'm telling you, I was also, like, Adrian, like, you would never see a movie about a boxer now with a woman. like Adrian, like just sort of like a nerdy, introverted. Well, it shows the difference of them completely, but will you stop it? You know what? Hey, we are trying to be professionals here. But the only thing we talked about this one, I think it was Dan.

I mean, it was Dan. The only thing that today in that movie, you got up until the fight itself. Right until the fight. So the only scene that I don't think that would play today is when he asked Adrian into the apartment. Oh, yeah, no, no, no, no, no. No, it's a little dicey. Where you going? Yeah.

You're over here. She's like, I'm going to go home. He's like, nah, come in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. His intent is pure. Yes. He's completely innocent. He's a good guy, but he does rape her.

That does not rape her, but it certainly doesn't, but it's, it's very pushy. Yes. And it was, that scene does not play today. But the difference between the two of them is tremendous. It's, I just feel like nowadays, like, I don't know, Like you look at something like Ted Lassel, like a big sports star has like a hot like piece of ass. You know what I mean? Like with a great person.

And I feel like that's what you see in like sports movies or sports TV. Well, South Paul. South Paul. Even with Jillyn Hall, his wife was Rachel McAdams. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

I mean, and who was it? Amy Adams was in the fighter? Oh, yeah. But she, she downed herself. But she was going to say she looked, she looked real. She looked real, but I mean, she also. But, I mean, she, yeah, but she's got, she's that type of actress. She has no fear.

She'll, she can look absolutely beautiful and stunning in the movie. And then the next thing, you need her to look like average or you just need to look like an old person walking around. Yep. She can't. But the 70s is also a very different time when you're making movies, right? Because that's, that's like the godfather era. Right. And you got, and you got Talia Shire in that movie.

And she's, you know, from the Coppola family and doing that. Oh, I didn't realize that. And then Bert, uh, Bert Young as Pauly. I was going to ask you about him. So good. That's like, it's a weird, like, Rocky's kind of a weird movie. Yeah, he's like an abusive brother. Yeah, like there's, like, I'm just saying there's like, it's not a classic trajectory

of a sport. It's like, I don't know. I just, it was completely, this is what I'm saying. You were right. Like, it's, it's fun to discover it for the first time. Because in my head, I was like, dun, da, da, nan, nan, nan, nan. I was like, just a lot of training montage. This is a pop culture.

Wait, so that's, that's number four. Yeah. Rocky for. Pop culture icon though and there's a reason why. Yeah. Right? And it's like yeah, but for you it's like oh yeah, Rocky Stallone. Look, it's the same thing when I talk about first blood, the rainbow. Everybody thinks of Rambo. Everybody thinks of Rambo. This guy running around shooting, people blowing him up and like no way could kill him. And the first, first blood, the novel itself is about a, about a Vietnam War Vett coming back PTSD, you know, and it's like, and it's 1972, the war still going on when the novel

happen. And in the novel, and I've talked about this a billion times over, for those people who are new to the show or are hearing it for the first time, David Morel wrote the book and you're inside of Rambo's head the entire time. And he, in the movie, which I just watched recently, he, I think, he kills a cop by accident because the cops are trying to kill him. So he throws a rock at the helicopter just to stop shooting at me, motherfucker, and the guy falls out. So that was like more self-defense, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He does kill the dogs in the movie because they're trying to come get him. He shoots a couple of the cops. It doesn't really kill anybody. And the book kills everybody. When he breaks out of the cop place, he guts a cop and runs out. Obviously, you can't have Stallone doing that in 1982 when he's coming off of Rocky 3. And it's like, okay.

And plus, and in the novel, Rambo dies. in the, they shot an ending where Rambo died. Oh. But the audience watched and said, did Sylvester Stallone just die? Yeah, he doesn't. I don't know if you know this. Sylvester Stallone doesn't die. He doesn't die.

Plus the, well, plus the fact that you, if you would have killed them, then you don't get the franchise that you wind up getting. So obviously, smart move. Right. There. But, yeah, bouncing back to Rocky, I go back and forth with Rocky 1, 2, and 3 are what are what my favorites are. Really?

Yeah, because one is definitely the, artsy movie for sure it's like it's real cinema it is rocky one is real is absolutely rocky two plays into that for sure and then there's just something about it that i always respond to i bounce back and forth that sometimes i put two as my number one movie um rocky three is definitely more of the more cinematic kind of boxing thing that you're that you're talking about but there's just at that point you're so invested in rocky and like these kind of new villains that are coming it's the first time you ever get introduced to mr t right ever oh Oh my God.

That's wild. I think there's even an introducing Mr. T credit that pops in there. But it's actually Rocky Balboa, which is the sixth movie that I think you and I were talking about. That movie is the closest to Rocky one, I think, out of all of them. Yeah. It feels that way. I still am not crazy about the ending fight. It's fine.

Yeah. But in Rocky 5, you can just kind of. I just bet. I just, I think if you took all of the minutes that took place in a gym or in training and Rocky won, and you did like, million dollar baby is a great film. Right. Yeah, it's great a movie. But you take the number of minutes or the percentage of the movie that's spent in a gym.

I just didn't think there were going to be so much in this, like, this dingy apartment or in this, like, meat locker. Like, there's all this, like, you feel the locations. Like, wherever that location manager was. It was, it was them just going around this town and finding, like, hey, yeah. Yeah, we've got to try to get this one. I mean, that scene with him and Mickey, when Mickey tries to go get him to get a manager, what you need is a manager.

Yes. And he's just like, Hey, come out, stinks in your stinks! And he goes, and then he realizes, and he runs after him, and they had that great moment. How great is the Bill Conti score, by the way? Oh, it's incredible.

By the way, can we shoot me and, like, one of my players next year doing me being like, what you need as a manager? I want to do the manager scene. You should wear Mickey's outfit. And he's like, and we, Hey, Thomas Harper, what you need is a manager. And if he has two turtles, you'd be like, what?

It'd make good pets. They make good soup. By the way, no one ever has mentioned that I have Tommy Johnson, my tortoise. No one's ever been like, oh, like Rocky. Like Rocky, right. I'm like, he still has those things, cuff and link. I mean, they live to like 100 years old, those fucking turtles. I know.

Ours is going to live to be that long. Yeah. And so in the, in their, they're really, he's one of them. I think they're both of them, but they're in Rocky, Robboa, the sixth one. And they're massive now. They're like, because in cuff and link, they're big. Like in the first movie, they're like this big. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And that's 30 years later or whatever it is. Oh my God. And they're massive. That's how ours is going to be too. We're going to have like a, I was like, this, this tortoise becomes Neil's problem in a couple of years. In a couple years. Cuff and Link. So, so.

It's such a weird. And like, also like what a weird, like, she works at a pet food store. Like, she works at a pet store. And he comes and he tells her the jokes, the bad jokes. And then that dog, butt kiss, that's his real dog. That was his real dog. That was everything. Like the movie was like low budge.

Like that super low butt. It makes it so magical though. 100% like I told you. And like the ice ring thing I told you about. Like there was all the extras. I was thinking about that. Yeah. It just plays so much better with just the two of them.

Oh my God. It makes the deal with the guy beforehand. Three minutes. Yeah. That's amazing. So good. And that whole scene where he's walking with a garage. Screw you.

Yeah. Okay. What's that girl's deal? Where is she gone to? Do you want to know? Yes. She pops back up in Rocky Balboa. Fuck off. Yeah. She pops back up. Does she look as busted as she does in that person? No, she, she, and he goes, I remember when I, when I saw you and you said, screw off creepo. No, I didn't. He said, yeah, you did. I remember, I remember a good insult. Yeah. But the funny thing was, it's amazing. I don't think a lot of people know this, but I, I was such a, like, Rocky and Star Wars were pretty much like my two things. Yeah.

When Rocky 5 came out, I even tried to convince myself that I enjoyed it more than I did. And I was, you know, I was 12, 13 at the time. I got a bootleg copy of it when I was out in theaters in like Manhattan. I got, you know, this is when somebody had like the big clunky thing. Yes. Like a, they opened up a trench coat. Yeah, and I don't know where else they got this. There's scenes, and I don't know if it was like a test screening or whatever they did

because there were scenes that certainly weren't in the theatrical cut because in the movie in this version I saw Little Marie is the is the girl's name Yes yeah She's on a street corner in Rocky in Rocky 5 And her life went the other way And she was like I was straight up like And it might have been the actual actress

Yeah The one in Rocky Boboa is not It's a new actress But but I guess Stallone changed his mind And didn't and took her out of the Took her out of the street and said No no no you know what maybe she actually turned herself around Right put her in Rocky Boboa instead and that's what he did

because they cut her out of that scene. There's a scene where Little Marie. I wonder if you can find that on YouTube. No, I've never looked. That's amazing. Yeah, it's like Little Marie and Rocky Five. You know, the other thing I watched in honor of you. What's that?

Terminator. First one? Never saw it. The best. It's really good, Christian. The first Terminator, I don't lie to you. The first Terminator, I actually enjoy them better than the second one. You do.

Have you seen the second one? No. You haven't seen either. No, no, I just watched the first one. One and two is all you really need to watch. I mean, you can. Because I remember you talking about Sarah Kaika, but like, this is a time. travel movie that I actually could follow.

That's very important for me. And you watch the whole thing? Yep. So my favorite, and that's one of those movies that I watch. I talk about my late friend, Brian Cashia, who passed away in 9-11. And he was the guy who introduced me to George Carlin. He introduced me to a lot of comic book stuff when I was younger, but he introduced me one of the first movies I ever saw.

And I always talk about how the rated R movie I saw in theaters was Barry Hill's Cop. I'm pretty sure the first rated-dard movie I maybe ever saw on tape was Terminator. He showed me. I remember watching it. Because his dad had a video store and he had like laser desk before anybody else. And he had this whole basement, this whole room like all to himself. And it was tech and everything in 1984 and 2005. Right.

And it was incredible. So I remember we used to laugh all the time and we keep rewinding when the guy goes, hey, buddy, what he got a dead cat in there? He's scanning through. the option to fuck you asshole yeah fuck you awesome all right takes off it's like so and even in the beginning is there's a guy there's like a there's a guy in that is in both rocky three he might even mean rocky two but he's in rocky three he's black dude that was in Rocky three and he's definitely in Terminator and he's sitting in the he's sitting in the truck when the lightning when

the lightning comes it what the hell he ain't a bud when it takes off and then in rocky three he's out He's like in the street and Paulie is like, shut up, you Steino Bums, I'll squash you. And the guy goes, and Pauli goes, who needs this? I don't. And that guy is, but yeah, the Terminator man, that first movie, that's a horror film. It's a horror film for sure. Great horror film. Yeah, it's, I mean, and also like, Schwarzenegger, again, look good.

Shore's Seneca look good. But what happened to the guy, the other guy? Michael Bean? Yeah. Yeah, Reese. He's around. He is? He was in Mandalorian, season two.

Who was he in Mandalorian? In the, in Asoka. In the Asoka. Yes, the best, I think the best. I just loved that. He was the villains's like number one helper. Oh, wow. Yeah.

Wow. So he's gone through, I think he's had some, like some issues, you know, overall with addiction and stuff too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think he's, I think he's bounced back. Yeah. But he's had a, I mean, he was in the abyss. He was in aliens. Aliens.

He's, he's been in a lot of different. He was, was he in, I don't think he was in the rock. I forget. But he was, he might have been in the rock, but he's been in a lot of different movies. He's so good in that movie. He's so good in that movie. And I was like, in my head, again, didn't, had never seen The Terminator. I just assumed because Arnold Schwarzenegger became such a icon after it.

I assumed that he was a good guy. Oh, you didn't even know? Oh, God, I wish I would have watched that movie. A, either with you or B, as you. Because, like, what a fun way to watch that movie. Well, so then I was like, oh, wait, this is the protagonist. Where this guy end up in the world? I mean, I just think we could say, like, Michael Bean did not have the same trajectory

that Arnold Schwarzenegger did. No, and at the time, maybe they thought that he would. But the difference was that, so Arnold, Arnold's career, I don't know how much you knew about Arnold, but, like, he, was Mr. Olympia. Yeah, for Olympus, whatever it was for forever. And he became like a megastar because of it because of bodybuilding back in those days

and had a movie you should watch that you'll laugh your fucking ass off to is pumping iron, which is a documentary with Arnold. And you just see the kind of massive star he is and he gives, and he's kind of a dick. Like he's messing with Lou Farigno and getting in his head and it's kind of like what like Bateman does

to people in Snowdown. Like he does that shit to... So this is you saying Bateman's kind of a dick. People know that when it comes to inside of the Shmona, but this is, he does this, but and then he went on to do a movie called Herk, well, he actually might have done this first before Pumping Iron. He did a movie called Hercules Goes Bananas, and they dubbed his entire voice. And he was Hercules. But you can actually find a version now where it's, it's him. It's him. But they, but when it came out, it was, it was, it was so clear that it wasn't him. But then he got Conan the Barbarian. And he was a good guy in that. He was

Conan. That was 1982. And then I think that James Cameron approached him to play Reese in that. Interesting. And he's like, I wanted to play the villain. So I told James, I said, I do not want to do this. I want to play. I want to be the bad guy. And he's like, well, you can't be.

Then one's going to see Arnold as a bad guy. He's like, I can do it. And they had this whole thing. And then they, they, and he wanted to play the bad guy. And it's perfect because he doesn't talk that much. And sometimes when he does. talk, he's just, he's taking on other people's voices. Right.

And but when he does, it's terrifying. It is, yeah. But I'll be back. I did not, I didn't know, I knew the origin of it was Terminator. I didn't realize it was because he was about to murder all the fucking police. Murder all the cops. And then when he says the, I'll be back. Oh, she keeps showing up.

Oh my God. That was such an honor. I was Steph's a pro for a second. For a second. When he's like, how about Bill Paxton showing up in the beginning? You didn't see Bill Paxton? showing up when he kills all those punks in the beginning i knew i recognized one of those bill paxton he was he's not great in that and your glasses and he's just like he goes laundry day huh nothing clean right

nothing clean right yeah and then then he just fucking kills him all with the fuck you asshole yeah yeah yeah Cameron he's stored at paxton all the time get out true lives well also paxton is pexton is pexton titanic no Yeah, he is. He is. No, Paxson is the guy in the beginning. He's the one that's looking for the jewels. Yes, okay.

Yeah. Because it's very funny to me that Terminator, the guy that directed Terminator is the same guy that directed Titanic. It's amazing. I know. It just shows you. But it also shows with him why everyone's like, I don't want to give a shit about Avalhardt or two.

No one's going to watch that. Never doubt that dude. Never doubt that dude. Because, first of all, Terminator, low-budget movie that no one thought was going to be anything, and becomes one of the biggest sci-fi films of all time, right? Sci-fi horror. Then he does the second one,

and he just, people don't realize that he, like, that's where he did a collaboration with, like, ILM and Lucas's technology. Oh. You'll see the tech,

like for 1991 when that movie came out. That tech was, the special effects were like revolutionary. Wait, and Terminator 1. Oh, I was going to say Terminator 1, I even felt like, I was like, I could appreciate. I was like, oh, they did like a great,

like, you know, It holds up. It holds up. Like the, and the Terminators are scary looking. You know, there's some stuff still. It's like, okay, that's 1984. Sure. But whatever.

But for the movie holds up. Like, there's a lot of movies. You go back to the 80s. Like, that is dated. Yeah. But like even my, we'll talk about another one in a second. We watched a movie, family movie with, uh, with, we watched Beethoven. Oh.

The dog movie, right? Love it. Charles Groden. Super dated film. Like everything about a super dated film. But it's, but, you know, It's fun for what it is. But the Terminator had a lot of things that just still hold up.

But Terminator 2, yeah, he puts that movie out. It crushes. It becomes like the biggest movie ever. True Lies. Massive movie, Abyss, big movie. And then he puts Titanic out. Everyone's like, oh, this is going to be the biggest, no pun intended disaster that has ever, they've ever seen in film.

It's taken too long. The delays. It's super expensive. It's way too long. And it becomes the most profitable movie of all time. And then they're like this avatar movie. What the hell is? It's not based off an original property.

Nobody knows what the hell it is. Who's in this movie? Who the hell is Sam Worthington? Right. Who gives you shit becomes the most profitable movie of all time. And I think it just surpassed Avengers Endgame again recently. No way. Yeah.

And so when people look, ah, yeah, it's not a, no one's going to give a shit about the second one. Until that dude fails. Yeah. Then I'm, like, he's, he is, every time he's played for a championship, he's won the motherfucker. So, yeah. Dude, yeah, I'm telling you, I'm catching up on, I'm catching up on the Christian properties. I like it. I mean, they're all right there. Every one of them. I just had Steph watch Heat the other night. She watched Heat with Robert De Niro and Al Pacino. No, I was going to say that's the, I know you do, that that's your number one, isn't it? Your number one, Pacino?

It's probably, well, I mean, I got to, I'm. You really loved Irishmen. I know. I like an Irishman a lot. I mean, Carlito's Way, he, I mean, Godfather 1 and 2. I have Godfather 1 and 2. I have all 3 of them, but I got to go back and watch them again. I've seen them, obviously, but I don't know them the way everyone else does, especially now I'm doing this big rewatch on the Sopranos.

That's like my, I watch Sopranos, and I watched Loki. Oh, yeah. That's sorry. That's what you wanted to talk about today. No, no, not necessarily. I mean, that's the beauty of this show is that we'll talk about movies and we'll talk about TV that we've watched and we've seen. And then the beauty of pre-taping is that afterwards,

I can title it, this is what we talk about, you know? And Loki, I watched this. Kate gets pranked by Christian. Yes, it was a job of the show. We'll tie. Let's tell what the prank was. Oh, too, even. So there was a, uh, Loki was, the season finale,

um, was great. And it was, and this is why I think for people, if you didn't watch the Loki finale, then you're going to get spoiled. Kate doesn't care. She either, A, forget it. about it or probably be five wait until you get to creed i feel like you're going to like creed one and two even more so than than the rocky movies i think so because you love michael b jordan don't you

yeah you're going to it's they're great movies they're great have you seen him he's i did a stare down with that dude i know i've seen it like he's he was a super good dude oh yeah i liked him a lot um but anyway um loki season finale what i like about these shows as and this is this could transfer into Star Wars, you transfer into any of these shows that they're doing, is that you don't have to do the traditional, oh my God, this is that we have the hit series on our hand, we got to do five of them and just keep pushing them out, even though we probably should have stopped it too. This is six episodes. It's done?

Done, because they've set up, they've set up the universe. So do you know the general idea? No. All right. So the general idea of it is that there's a, did you ever see Endgame? No. Oh, you didn't. All right.

Well, then this is, this is probably better. So the general idea of this is that for endgame, as you guys know, like they played with time a lot. And then the beginning of Loki shows that this version of Loki, because Loki ultimately dies in Infinity War, but in this version in Endgame, he escapes. So when Loki, the series starts, this version is in an alternate timeline.

Owen Wilson finds him who's been working for the TVA, which is like... Hey, Loki, good to see you. He's so good in this series. Does he sound like Owen Wilson? Wow. Wow. Remind me to call Jamie Costa after we get off. I'm going to try to talk to Owen Wilson.

I'm going to try to talk to Kurt Russell. And I'm going to try to then channel the great late Robin Williams. But we'll do that in a second. But anyway, so they find him. And then he starts working with Owen Wilson. It's like a buddy cop thing because there's this variant of someone else inside of a different timeline that is causing problems. It turns out to be a female Loki. Oh, wow.

Other versions of Loki, the multiverse. and all this stuff, but there's all the timelines that are, there's this one infinite timeline that the TVA is trying to keep consistent, right? That's their job. So the variant is female Loki and our Loki, Tom Hiddleston, start working together and she ultimately wants to find whoever this guy was or a person was that ruined their life. And I got to find out the actor that plays the one who's still alive or I mean,

you guys will correct me immediately. I know that's not it. It's the last man standing, whatever the hell it was called. but he who lives, whatever it might be. That was the guy's name. The actor that played this guy was phenomenal. Really, really good. And he's got a lot to do.

There's a key. He's got a lot to do. I'm going to ask Winston. I'm going to do this right now. Let me see. Hey, Siri, text Alex Marshall. Oh, I can't do that now. Let's give away Winston's real name on there.

I think. Does he ready to do that? I think he already did. All right. Well, too bad. bad. Sorry about that, Wilson. That's how I usually do it because he's listed in my phone. That's so funny because it updates based on what he has and his, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Whoops. Well, anyway, so there's this scene in the very end, basically what happens is the guy tells him, he goes, look, I've been here forever doing this. What happened was there's all these different versions of me throughout the, throughout the time that we're battling. There are good versions of me and there are a lot of evil versions of me, a lot of them. and they all were fighting against each other inside this multiverse war, right? And he said, so I created this one infinite timeline that worked and kept them all at bay, and it's just, that's it, it's good. TVA has kept that in line.

They didn't know that there are variants, whatever. You guys have figured it out. So it's basically like Willie Wonka almost, right? He's like, here's a deal. You can either kill me. Yes. And if you kill me, I'll pop back up and you're going to have to deal with a lot of versions of me, so be it.

Or you and male Loki can run it. Tell everybody that their variants, run it how you want to run it, and continue my work. It's up to you. So he's like, Tom Hiddleston's like, let's do this, let's run. And she's like, you just want to be in power. He's like, no. Because it's weird because he falls in love with, eventually how narcissistic falls in love with himself because it's a female version of him. But either way, they're having this big battle.

Sounds like my marriage. They're having this big battle and this big fight And he's like convincing her He's like, she's trying to kill him She's like, I'm gonna kill him And he's like, no, let's work together And there's this big emotional fight They wind up kissing, right?

But then they had this whole thing And he's like, let's do it And she's like, all right, you know what? You're right, you know, you convince me And she pushes him through this portal, shuts it And she's like, but I ain't you. And she kills the dude And all the timelines open up

And I think the way it leaves it is that he's in a different time Like his almost doesn't even recognize him So he popped back into the multiverse That pops into the Spider-Man movie And everything else that's popping in Because there's all these rumors that, you know, like That Toby McGuire's going to come back And Andrew Garfield from the...

And it's ultimately like the... What is it? The animated movie that came out that won the... It's Spider-verse. The Spider-verse. So it's like that. But all these different multiverses are going to open now because of what's happened in Loki,

and that's going to open up this whole new phase in MCU. And Loki's just a one-season deal. Six episodes I was at it. It just told the story. It just told the story. Because that's also, I did not realize Wanda Vision was limited also. I was like, I'll see another season of Wanda Vision.

There's no, I don't think that there's been a clear-cut decision, though, that's... Well, except for that it's up for the Emmy and limited series. Oh, is it? Yeah. Okay. So I was like... So maybe they made it official. Maybe they, I don't know.

Well, maybe they bring it back. I mean, look, limited series, limited series doesn't mean, it doesn't mean that you can't come back and do another one. They could do, they could come back and do a second limited series, you know, as long as it's, it's like, I think that Cassie and Andor, the show Andor that's coming out is set for a few seasons from what I heard. Oh. And it's not limited. Obi-One is limited. Which is limited. Which is what I wanted to be.

Yeah. Because you can get something like this, because this is why when you have six episodes at 45 to 55 minutes an episode, you know. know, okay, it's going to start here, going to end here. So how do we establish everybody? It's a six-hour film. And I thought it played very well. I thought it was one of the better ones because I think it delivers the most. I do think, and I don't know, maybe I'm wrong,

but I do think that if you're watching the overall MCU, you're going to want to watch this series because people are going to, if you're watching these other movies and they start open up different time and different people start jumping in, you're like, how did that happen? Well, in Loki, they did that. this. Right. You might not have to. They might figure out a way to do it where you don't have to. But I was really impressed by it. That's, I mean, I got to tell you, I feel like Disney Plus has done no wrong in terms of their original series so far. Right now. So far. So far. So got me out.

I've liked Winter Soldier. I liked Wonder Vision, even though I was the least excited about that one. And I really dug that one. A lot of I was creative. And that one got me hooked. Time travel and parallel universes, though you're always going to get me with that. Because that's like I'm fascinated with that shit. You should see The Terminator. Terminator, the time. It's one of my favorite movies, but the time travel is, it's some of the worst time travel explanation stuff.

That's why I think I understand. Yeah, but it's just, but it's like what they say in end game, Paul Rudd is talking about, they're giving him an explanation of how time works. And they're like, well, it doesn't, if I went back and I stopped us from meeting back in the day, right? It's like, well, then if we came back here, we would know each other. It's not true. It's a different timeline.

It's like time, if you believe in what a lot of real scientists are saying, it's infinite. And there's multiple universes. So it wouldn't affect this timeline. It would affect that timeline, which is how they play in like Loki. So if we went back and we went back in time and you decided to tell Mark and I not to do the Shmodown at that pizza place. We didn't go to that piece of way. And Shmodon never happened. You come back here.

Schmonds would still be here. Right. It just then doesn't happen. Right. And it branches off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That to me is why I was so fascinated by the way they did in an end game and why they, the way that you continue doing Loki, because if you believe in all that stuff,

and back to the future, it's like everything when he got back, it was changed. But the argument could be, well, maybe that's the, he just jumped back into that same timeline. Right. He wasn't able to jump into his timeline. I don't know. It was like that ripple effect, right? Yeah, the butterfly effect, right? It's like, I absolutely believe in the butterfly effect.

Yeah. My wife does not, but like it's one of those little things, like such a small thing of one thing I say to you today if I have a particular conversation that sparks a thought in your head and if I decided not to say that thing that you decide maybe I mentioned coffee and you're like oh I'm going to get a Starbucks

and then you go to Starbucks and when you're there someone drops $100 on the floor. Yes. You give it back to them and they go oh that was very nice you and gave you $1,000 because of it. Now if I never mentioned coffee you don't get that $1,000. Yes. You know what I mean? I'm with you 100% but my dark brain was like and I go to Starbucks and the place is shot up

No, I got $100. Okay. That's just like how dark I am. Yeah, but in the same thing. Like, it's like, you know, it's, it's those little things that like, yes. I just got before, before you got off the phone, before you came here, I got off the phone, I had a really good phone call. And the only reason I had that phone call is because of a thought that I had at one point that I said, oh, let me call so-and-so about this. And who knows?

Right. If I don't have that call, then other things happen. Right. maneuver and it's like it's like these little moments that are and it's you ever see sliding doors with gwend of palis she misses the subway or something or something hits her by a second and it changes everything yes 100% believe in that i do too it just to me it mathematically makes sense yes and i think like i think the thing that's tricky is to prove what would have happened if it went a different way but i do think that like i also think that's like again my dark brain but i'm also like well that's why car accidents

It's like you happen to be, the reason that you were on that freeway is because you left your house two minutes late because the babysitter was coming over. And this is a true story. And the babysitter, you wanted to get the clothes that you had folded the night before while you were watching Rocky. You know, it's like, and so then you happen to be on the freeway at that moment when that truck is on, you know, it's all of these things. It's, it actually goes back into the overall theme of like Terminator 2 is like what is it? Is it fate, right? how much of fate goes into it. And do you believe in fate?

Do you believe in, like, as far as certain choices that are made, like those types of things. Like, some people go, well, I wasn't going to do that. Right. And this is even in Loki. They say, so you know everything that's going to happen? And the guy even says, he says at the end, he goes, I did up until about 20 seconds ago. Now it's, and now I don't know what's going to happen. It's the first time ever.

I don't know what's going to happen. And it's like everything else was kind of put out because Loki's like, so you're saying like everything is just put out in front of it. of us and we know what it is and and a lot of people like do you feel like that's what it is do you think there are different versions of yourself out there as far as parallel universes and multiverses go right from the way that time works in general some people don't even fathom it right the same way you don't fathom like aliens and you have so UFOs and now there's so much conversation about UFOs now because people are actually seeing them that it's and still even those people like

well it's not it's not an alien it's it's some kind of a military spaceship they don't want to tell us about or somebody else or we don't know what it is. I don't know. I mean, some people think that it could be humans from like the year 4,000. Right. That have figured out how to get here and move on. The fuck do I know. I don't know.

I don't know shit. I know. But I also know not to. Yeah, but I also know not to say that I definitively know what it is. That's right. That's the thing is if you don't, I feel like if you don't know, this is like what, I was having this problem with people with the, with the vaccine. People are like, I feel like the,

Some people will say it came out too quick. I don't trust it. Fine. Okay. It came out too quick. We just don't know enough. But those are the same people that say, and it causes sterility. Okay.

You can't be both. Right. You don't know. You don't know that. Don't go on to things where you know. This is what it causes. It causes this. But you don't know that.

But someone has a blood clot. But how do you know that person didn't already have a blood clot? There's like eight people. And it's like, but you know, this is a bit. And there are different conversations all together that people have. I won't get into that today. No, no, no, no, no, no, it's not. But that's the problem.

That this particular thing, as far as the vaccines go, it has become politicized, and it shouldn't. Yes. It shouldn't. That's the problem, because that is politicized. And it's like, everything is now. And that's the, that is an overall problem in general. And again, I ain't going saying that if you're on the right, you're in the wrong,

if you're in the left, you're in the wrong. It has nothing to do what I'm talking. What I'm talking about is there nobody should argue. that it's like there is there is no one helping anybody if if if used if you think that oh well you know what republicans have a good point but i ain't saying that shit i ain't going to lose my job you know what democrats they're really making sense but fuck that i ain't losing my position in i'm not saying it's the red socks versus the yankees yes it's not and the red socks ain't going to help the yankees out and the yankees aren't going to help the red socks out um and that's that's that's

that's the way it is and there's no and and that's why we're in the position that we're in because people are not trying to help each other out. They're trying to say the people that I like the best are right. And even if you say something wrong, even if you say something right, I ain't saying it's right. No way. I can't. I can't show that. I can't show that because then I'll get yelled at.

Then I'll lose my job. And then the same thing with people on Twitter and Facebook. It's a disaster. It's, yeah. Dickie read this really interesting article that he told me about that I'm going to get wrong. but it was about how we are, that, like, 20 years ago, we were the most church-going democracy, and, like, that fell off,

and that people then replaced religion with politics. Yeah, with, but basically, that there's, if you don't belong to a cult, you belong to this cult. Like, that there's sort of been a lack of, like, belonging on anything, too. It's a belonging. And so people, where do they put that fervor? where do they put that energy?

Right. And so it's gone into politics now. I don't know if it's true, but it's an interesting. It certainly feels that way. Yeah. And there's no one, there's, well, I shouldn't say there is, but there are people who are saying, hey, we're all on the same side when you talk about the country. But the problem is that everyone goes, ah, you're just saying that because you want people on your side. No. You know, and it's like, and there are some people that do say that just to say, no, no, no, you know, we're all on the same side.

Come on and join us. Right. And it's like, it's fucked, man. It's fucked bad. And I think my whole point was, though, like, somebody being like, I don't know what that is, but I know it's not this. No, you don't get to say it. You stop at, I don't know what that is. That's exactly right.

You stop at that part. I know what I, like, I had this whole conversation with Brett about, like, dreams. Yeah. What I want dreams to be. And what I want, like, what happens in death, right? Oh. Like, that's, that, this was like the beginning of episode one of, like, what happens when you die. What I want.

I'm sure Brad was in a great state leaving. No, we had a fun conversation. about it because the question is like it's like like what a lot of people believe is it you don't you you believe i don't know i think it's probably similar to my birth which i don't remember it i don't right the other thing is is it like what i hope it is and i by no means do i say i believe in it what i hope it's you go to you you're you go into another universe your consciousness place places into another version of yourself because if it is this this because people have said that they've felt like they've been in woken up in different universes and positions of their of their selves right and if if you're

able to and again this is just what I want not necessarily what I believe at all because I don't really necessarily believe it but I'm hoping yeah that you know it's like I there's I fought this kid when I was in the sixth grade and I was going to my grandfather's my grandfather was on his deathbed I was going to Florida like the next day and I don't remember why I fought this kid and I didn't it. And it was in front of people that I, that, you know, were the cool kids and all this stuff too. And I, and I,

I wasn't a fighter. Yeah. And I'm like, it taught me later on in life. What you need as a manager. I mean, it was a manager, but I wasn't. I was a fucking geeky little kid that was, telling jokes,

all the stuff. And this kid was kind of a douche and, and whatever it was. And, and it wasn't like, it wasn't, it was embarrassing. And that's how I went to go see my grandfather.

Oh. You know? And I remember. I remember that particular thing. And I remember being in the car. My dad was, I'm younger than me at this point, but like... Isn't that wild?

And I was going through all these emotions as a kid. I was in the sixth grade, whatever it was, and I was going through all these different emotions. My grandfather was ready to pass, and my dad knew it. And I remember this thing happening in the car to this day that was such a miscommunication that my dad didn't understand what I was saying.

And I was so shocked by this. My dad was going through, like he knew he was about to lose his death. Yeah. And he's sitting there and I started getting really emotional. My dad goes, yeah, I'm going to go see him first and go talk to him. And in my head, I start thinking, my grandfather's about to leave. I'm going to lose him. And I start crying.

Oh, it's not fair. This is not fair. My dad grabs me out and he goes. He's like, what do you mean this isn't fair? He's like, he's my dad. I'm going to go see him first. And I was so confused. I was so confused.

And my dad's not, and by the way, my dad is like the sweetest. Yes. Like my idol. Like my idol. Never, never like anything except like someone who has been encouraging me and everything. He was just his emotion. Like he thought I was being like. That's not fair.

I want to see him first. And it was the last thing. And I was so confused. I've talked to my dad about it too. He doesn't really remember it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But all of that. Because it was an event in your life.

It was a non-event in his. To him, it was saying goodbye to his father. Yeah. And so like all of that, like being able to. I go and then I pop up there, right, in that moment. The things that, first of all, I've been watching a lot of UFC, so I fucked that kid up. Yes.

Yes. Because they wouldn't know about MMA back in 1980. It was seven, whatever it was. They would know about it. You give him an arm bar. I would do some stuff. I would go for the takedown. Now everybody goes for takedowns because people watching UFC.

Back then they weren't, UFC wasn't even the thing. So all that stuff and all that, or I wouldn't even be there. Or I wouldn't even be there. But then I would handle that whole situation. going to Florida City. Like all of that. I thought about this a million times over. But at the same thing,

because of the butterfly thing that we were just talking about, what does that mean as far as that timeline goes, do I ever, right then and that, with those different choices, my kids aren't born. Yes.

With that choice alone. Yes. Because I don't go on the same path. Yes. You know, isn't it crazy? It's totally crazy. It's a lot of weed, Kate. But it gets you there.

It gets you there. Listen, I would love, well, this is the other question. If you don't want to answer this, you don't have to. But I have so many people that have lost very significant people in their lives, significant others or mothers or brothers or whatever. And like, I can't deny some of the stories of people coming through. I don't know if that person's, I can't deny. Like, they tell me a thing.

They're like, there was a quarter and the quarter. And I'm like, it's this thing that's quarter and the penny thing. My dad has said that there was something. As far as pennies, you noticed. There was just something, but like, so do you, does your brother ever come through to you? Not to me. Not to me. Not to my, but I mean.

The Brian? I don't, I'm waiting for him to come to me because my, my, my, my, my, my, I'm, everybody but I think right now. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I'm just not paying attention to it. Yeah. I don't know.

But maybe, I mean, I also think that's also the sort of thing too where it's, it's maybe that we, because we believe in a thing, like the people that believe in the mentally. You don't know. I mean, look, so I just mentioned my buddy Brian Cashew. Yes. Yeah. Like I found.

Was he. was he Cantor Fitzgerald? So this is so funny that this is coming up now because I don't know why, but I looked him up yesterday again for some reason and it was as if he was speaking to me because there was a picture of him and he's holding this pizza box

and I zoomed in on it and I go, you know what? It's from Brooklyn, this pizza. I'm going to the, we're going to go, next time we go to New York, I'm going to go to this pizza place that he was at, right? But I read this thing and my brother, my late brother actually wrote this song for him

for Brian Cashier. So it was that he had done after Brian had passed. But Brian Cashia was working at this one place. And when I was at the WWE, I had traded an email with him. And this was in August. He's like, I'm starting my new job. He had been there for a month. Right.

So what happened was, and he was. And I told you, he was head all the tech when he was a kid. He was like a massive computer guy, like back in the day. And he became like an IT guy. He was like the main like IT. tea guy for Canter Fritzgerald. So. Canter Fitzgerald lost everybody. So he was supposed to come in every morning at like 9.30 or 10 o'clock.

That morning, they called him in to get there at like 8.15, 8.30. And I think that's the time that the plane hit. I think also Canter Fitzgerald was, I think they, if I'm remembering correctly, they were having a company-wide thing at Windows on the World, which is the restaurant. Is that what it was? So they were all. So maybe that's why they needed a. one came back down once the plane said nobody Well that's why I said again going into a bit of a morbid thing

But I also actually get comfort out of this The way that that plane hit at that point No one like was like oh my God I'm I'm you don't have time to think you're incinerated Yes yes if you were on the in the level he was he was on the hundred and third Yeah yeah yeah it's like it's like it was I would say it's like that Tony Suprano moment of it just goes like yes it's like for him it was just yes wait what boom It's over yeah you didn't even you didn't even you didn't even have have time to suffer and all that too.

So that does give me, you know, not satisfaction, but it gives me like I'm, I'm relieved to know that, particularly because you see all the poor people that had to jump and all that stuff too is, you guys come up to 20 years? It's 20 year anniversary this September. That's crazy. Isn't it? Did I tell you who the phone call was from that I found out about the second?

Because also, how was your phone working? Like the phones were all out in New York. I was in New York. I was here. Okay. I had, I was working at the WWE, I just got, I just lost the gig. And I just came back. Like, I'd been back maybe a week.

I went to Vegas with my friend Jay, came back, sleeping in my, um, car. You know, but I was sleeping in my room and the phone rings and it's Brett Sheridan. And he goes, we're under attack. I was like, what? We're under attack. I turn on the television. And I turn on the television and I think that the second plane, I just, I didn't find out of my friend until like three days later. He had, there's another.

He had proposed to his girlfriend a week before. Christian. I know. Nobody's trying to be this sad on a Friday morning. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I know. This is this.

Hey, look, this is the conversation where it can go. I know. But I was working at CPK when it happened. And I was working at CPK. I was walking home in like this. I remember clearly where I was in the alley, walking back to my car. And I listened to a voicemail from my dad. Brian's fiance had called him and told him.

And I just. fell on the floor at this point. I go back in, I sit down, I'll never forget this. This is crazy. And as I'm walking in, I was, you know, I was upset. I was crying. Of course, of course. My friend was comforting me, and there was this kid.

He points to me, starts, like, laughing. Right? Laughing. And I'm looking, and I look, and I look up at it, there's this fit of anger that came in the start of like, like, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I noticed he was like, he was special needs. Okay. He wasn't laughing. He was pushing towards, like, he was going like this. And he could see that I needed love.

And it was like, it was... Did you let... Did he hug you or no? No, I didn't. I just... No, I knew COVID was coming. Yeah, 20 years later, but his, but his, whoever he was with at the time,

like, brought him with, but I, understood it. Didn't say anything to him. Within seconds, I'll never forget that feeling. It was like this fit of like, because I didn't understand, yes. First of all, the special needs

until I really took a look. And then it was this fit of, like anger like of like right before you're ready to like strangle somebody yes and then to this overall feeling of like comfort it was bizarre oh it was so bizarre and it's just like so that was yeah i i honestly what a window what a lot of weed yeah yeah that worked there that's a lot i can't believe it was brett that called you it was bret yeah i i'll remember clear as a day and then walking around just remembering how different the world was going to be after that and like just feeling like you know walking around because it was and that's my home

And I remember like a week, it was like a week or two weeks later. I flew back to New York because my buddy was getting married. Oh my God. My job? Not my job. You always say the other John. The Patty. It was that John.

It was before Paddy. But it was, yeah, and I remember flying over and looking. Everybody was just like, holy shit. It was just surreal. It's wild to me because I feel like we have a lot of those. I feel like we have a lot of landmarks in our lives. We've been, we've, like, we're a certain era that, like, I very, I was going off to college, uh, for my sophomore year and I was still home because Northwestern starts late. And, but like, I can tell you

where I was, you know, on September 11th, I can tell you when Barack Obama became president. I can tell you where COVID, like, there's just, it seems like, I don't know, I think about, like, like, our parents' lives. I'm like, yeah, I remember thinking, like, they had, like, they had, so many more things. They, like, they remember Martin Luther King being assassinated, JFK. Like, and they also have September 11th. And it's like wild to me. The longer you live, the more. There's more things that, for sure.

Who the fuck is going to forget about COVID? You know, it's like, truly. Well, I'm hoping that my three and a half year old forgets about it. That's kind of the hope. Yes. My nine year old will not. My nine year will remember it because it took,

it took away like a year of her school. Right. To where, you know, and a lot of children, obviously, and a lot more than just school. But like that, but she's going to remember that. So that will be, I know. I know something. Oh, yeah.

But also like, then there's the next pandemic. That's going to our kids are going to remember. Which one, the Delta? No, whatever one comes next. There's another. Yeah, well, I mean, hopefully we're long gone at that one. I'm telling you, I feel like there's a pace. But I want to go.

The pace is accelerating. Can I tell you about the line jumping thing that I came up with too? That, that, this is something that, this line jumping thing is going to keep coming back, guys. This thing that I, that if I was, if you were given one gift that you could do, flying, whenever you wanted to do, whatever it was, you know, what would you, what would you What would you take? Flying. You take flying.

I would line jump. And so. It's such a good answer. And what that is, is the ability to, if you believe in the multiverse and you believe in all these different timelines, time. Time is infinite. Time moves in different ways, different speeds. To be able to say, all right, Kate, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to walk outside.

And I go outside and I close my eyes. And I go and live an entire lifetime, right? Somewhere else, different timeline where I didn't fight that kid, didn't do this, so that. Live that entire life. Yes. About to die when I'm 85 years old, whatever it is. Close my eyes. Come right back.

You didn't even know when I come back. I'm going to do this show. Oh, I was thinking of line jumping of like. A lot of drugs. What are you got? Try this one. This one's from Columbia. All right.

This one, Brooklyn. Whoa. I'm such a basic bitch. I was like, oh, yeah. Don't wait in lines at Disneyland for sure. I was like. Your mom. I know.

I was like, yeah, we could just go, we could just, yes, we don't have to wait in any lines. Yes, you don't have that money. You still need to have money for it, but you can line jump. No, I'm talking about. You don't have to wait for the vaccine. No, I'm talking about time. Timeline jumping. That's me like.

Okay, I think time is an important part of that. Yeah. Well, I just call line jumping. Like, to me, it would be, imagine you just, you get into a fight with your significant other, whatever it is. Never happened. You're like, I'm going to take a dump. And you go in and you just go and you live somewhere else.

You go to, you know, you have. have to go on the blueprint of your life that was here, but you can make a different choice. Yeah. Like if you knew, like, you know what, I, I remember when I bombed that job interview. Oh. And I know that if I would have just said that, I would have gotten it. Yeah. Go back to that moment.

Say the other thing. See if it would have worked out. See what those choices would have made. That is fun. And then if it sucks and if it's like, oh, shit, this is worse than my other life. And then jump back to the moment that you did. Okay. So let me ask you this.

Would you want to do it if it always, if the only way you could line jump was that you were taking it down? Yeah, 100%. Yeah. cares but then you show up but then you show up taking a dump yeah but who's gonna be there watching i don't know but you're taking a dump someplace is all i'm saying okay yeah whatever i is i had a i had a i don't want to i don't want to give it away with i worked on a i worked on a script similar to this where the name of it was

not the guy taking a dump but it was guy doing something else okay and it was oh i guess if i put it on here it's it's documented that it's mine so you can't yes that's true um intellectual but the guy would jump into consciousness and different parts and be able to change it up and it wouldn't affect the line what I was just saying and he was a plumber and I called it pipe dreams. Oh. And it was and it was. But to everyone else, he'd come back and he had all this knowledge and everything too. And like, he'd just a dreamer.

He's like, but he'd be able to, but he knows that these certain things that happened in this one timeline. He means, it's very similar kind of what, in a groundhog day when he goes and he's able to meet all these different people and he knows all so much about him. And then when he talks to him, like, how the fuck do you know that about me? It's like this guy would live in different versions of himself. There's a version of himself where he didn't lose his dad. There's a version of himself where he became a baseball player because he made that he, you know, Mr. Destiny was a movie that came out. And like he struck out in the big game and it fucked up his whole life.

But in Michael Kane, I think it was who gives him a shot and he and he hits the home run and it changes his whole life completely. So like shit like that. But again, in that, it affects that one timeline. Yep. In my version of this, plus he, in general, it's different timelines that just affects that timeline. Yeah. Dude, I love that.

Do you know you're going to be coming here talking science today? I love it. I got to tell you, it's one of the things that I love about weed, for real. I know, but there is something about, like, I do think a part of our brain gets unlocked. Yeah. With drugs. But I haven't done any of like the real hallucinogen. Like I haven't done ayahuasca or acid.

I haven't done any of those? When I was in, I didn't tell you this story. Like, I definitely told it on Collier Live, like, years ago. I haven't done it's college, but I did it. college, my one, my favorites, there was this girl, Tara Oaks was her name. She's an actress and she was in, oh, CHS. And she was, she was at Florida State and she, very sweet girl. And she was like one of like the, was a BFA like major like theater stars, right?

And I took like this and she was given like acting classes, you know, for students. And perhaps you find her? Yeah, sure did. And um Oh she's your type so But she But there was nothing There was nothing between us all

Except she was the teacher and she And she actually I meant she's your type She's a woman So she So she anyway She was doing these Yeah

I'm sorry So she was But she was teaching this class And she was And I remember riding my bike And I was like Well you know what

The class is only like 40 minutes So it probably would makes sense to do a tap, an asset, right, as the class starts. That makes sense. Let's try to do that. So, I was like, it'll be over. It'll be over, and then it'll be fine. 20 years old, whatever the fuck I am.

And so, get there, do what she starts teaching me, and I shit you not. In the middle, right as she's teaching me, her face just goes up one side and down the other side. I was like, you're an alien. I'm just looking at her face and I'm like, yeah

well this is what's fucking acting is pretend nothing is wrong and I just I don't know how I did it she didn't know because I ran into her at she she started doing like stand-up in Acme comedy club years later and I ran into it and I told her the story

she said yeah I had no I had no idea I just thought you were weird so you were like true very true then I start riding my bike away and in Tallahassee it rains like Seattle right? It starts raining.

It was as if I was having sex. Oh. It was incredible. The rain is coming down or whatever it was. But, and actually, I don't even think, I want to tell you that it didn't actually start raining until I was riding my bike afterwards because I was, I rode my bike first to this dorm. This is exactly what happened. I rode my bike to this dorm. And I get to the dorm.

And for some reason, I feel like now is time. Yeah. To lay on the grass. Yes. I'm not home yet. It's the time. It's time to lay, like the way a dog does. Yes.

And so I'm laying on the rest, essentially doing a. And then it starts rain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I look up. It's a fire drill. And the entire dorm is outside watching me do an angel. Do I, A, at this point, go, oh, my God, I'm so embarrassed. Yeah.

And right away. B, look up and say, I'm sorry, and then walk away. Or C, I don't give a shit. I keep doing it. C. Charlie? 100%. And so I'm just laying there, and there's not one person on that balcony that didn't say he's on drugs.

Yes. And so I then go, leave, and then I'm laying on the hood of my car when I got back, looking at the tree, feeling the tree, understanding how the tree is feeling at that time. And going through all these different things. And I was just like, yeah, I mean, it's a hell of a thing, but it's like, it's not something that I would do again. Also, it's not a, it's not like it's not like it's going to always alter the way you see things. Listen, it might have fucked me up. I don't know. Maybe it fucking, maybe it did.

No, I just mean like, there's something about like, I like thinking or like thinking about things differently. Right. It opens up another door. That's what they, was Timothy Leary. And then it says it opens up different doors in your brain that you normally wouldn't access. But it's, I think it's good that we can close those doors again. Yeah. And I don't recommend it to anybody, by the way.

It's like, it's not one of those things where it's like, yeah, you should do it. It's like, no, I don't know what if. I don't know how. It fucked me up for what it did. But it definitely opened up doors. And I'm sure people who have, like, trauma, that shit comes out. And I'm sure that it's still, I don't even know. Does people still do acid anymore?

I don't even hear about people. Is it even acid anymore? It was like, it was like still like a held over. This is like the, you know, the late 90s. So it's like still held over from the 60s, 30 years prior. My best friend came to college, the guy that became my best friend in college, came to college and was like, that's all he did in high school was drop acid. And I was like, it's the year 2000.

Like what? People still. It was like, yeah. But it was a thing. And like that, he was also a guy that robo-tripped all the time. College, I think it was a thing, though, too. It's like, I remember, I remember someone, you know, the first time I ever did was I own a college. It's the first time I had done it with my buddy, this guy, Jonesy, we'll call him.

By Jonesy? Just kidding. No, but, but yeah, and that was, and then college was the last time that I did it. That might have been the last time because I think it was a good enough one that I was like, I never had, I got lucky. I never had a, I haven't been like I'm going to do it again. But I never had a bad trip. So it was like I had seen people who just cuckoo-c-c-c-choo chew. Oh, yeah.

And it's not quick-lived. No, no, no. You're tripping for like eight hours. Eight hours, right? No, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So you don't want to, if you're, you got to lock in. And it's like, because some people don't like, like, there are certain people I know that would never be able to handle it because you just can't, you got to give up control.

You got to understand that for the next eight hours of your life, you're going to be in a fucking weird thing. Probably not a great candidate for acid. No, no. I don't think anybody is, to be honest. Nobody should be doing it. But it's, it was, you know, again, college and being in that spot. That's a, and it probably, like you said, it just opened up a train of thought that I had never been in before. And it probably is the reason I'm thinking about line jumping.

It's like, I don't know if I would ever come out with line jumping if I had not tripped balls in front of Tara Oaks. Who knows? Tara Oaks. She's still acting at least. Is she? She was very talented. Also, Brittany Spears Freedom is at hand. That's what Google's telling me right now when I go to.

Tara Oaks. I don't know what that means. Well, anyway, look. American actress. She was in Selma. Yes, she was. Life as we know it. Yeah.

She's, she's very, she's, was she in the fall? Which one? Let's see. Which one year was that? Uh, don't know. Is that the one with, uh. That was one. Let me see.

Was the fall the one, 2000, don't tell me. Okay. 2007. Okay. Or 2008? 2007? Let's see. All right.

Let's go. If it's the movie I'm thinking, you know. Okay. Tarsham? It's, uh. And who directed it? Uh, and your winner is not Christian. The fall is, uh, it's 2006.

And who directed it? Um, sorry, it's pulling up. Tarcene Singh. Yeah, Tarcum Singh. So it came out in 2007 in the, um, in the States because Mark and I, I didn't remember she was in that movie. It's a, it's a, really. I don't know that she, I don't, maybe she was in the TV show the fall.

She said Tarcum. That was the guy who directed it. Yeah. 2006, 2007 was, it must, it must have been. been released in festivals in 2006 and then it came out because Ellis and I weren't reviewing things yet right 2006 no and we had seen that together was one and how funny I did a I did a Britney Spears for you remember that and I absolutely remember that that was that was when we were not we were on YouTube at that point um don't you love how the conversation now can just go anywhere

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