The Kristian Harloff Show - Lucasfilm Announces Casting for Star Wars: Starfighter!

Episode Date: August 28, 2025

A brand-new Star Wars project is officially underway! "Star Wars: Starfighter" has begun filming and revealed its cast, and fans are buzzing with excitement about where this story will take the galaxy... far, far away. On today's episode of The Kristian Harloff Show, John Rocha hosts with Steph Sabraw co-hosting as they dive into what this new Star Wars film could mean for the franchise's future. But that's not all—we've got a packed slate of movie and TV news! The first reactions for The Conjuring: Last Rites are out and raising the question: is it a worthy send-off for the long-running horror series? Meanwhile, James Gunn addresses the rumors of possibly casting Chris Pratt as Batman in Peacemaker, Harry Potter director Chris Columbus explains why he was fired from the 2005 Fantastic Four movie, and reports claim X-Men director Bryan Singer has secretly directed a new film that's already stirring controversy. Topics include: "Star Wars: Starfighter" Begins Filming, Sets Cast THE CONJURING: LAST RITES Reactions Reveal Whether It's A Worthy Send-Off For The Long-Running Horror Series James Gunn On Possibly Casting Chris Pratt As BATMAN - Speculation Mounts Dark Knight Will Debut In PEACEMAKER HARRY POTTER Director Chris Columbus Reveals Why He Was FIRED From 2005's FANTASTIC FOUR Movie X-MEN Director Bryan Singer Has Secretly Helmed A New Movie That Could Result In A "Hotbed Of Controversy" Join Rocha and Steph as they break down all the biggest headlines from a galaxy far, far away to the world of horror, superheroes, and beyond. #StarWars #StarWarsStarfighter #TheConjuringLastRites #Batman #ChrisPratt #JamesGunn #FantasticFour #ChrisColumbus #XMen #BryanSinger #MovieNews #KristianHarloff #JohnRocha #StephSabraw SPONSORS:  CAR GURUS: Buy or sell your next car today with Car Gurus at http://www.cargurus.com RUGIET: Head to http://www.rugiet.com/KRISTIAN and use code KRISTIAN to get 15% off today.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 What's up, everybody. Welcome to the Christian Harloff show. I am not Christian Harlov. He is off at a water park with his lovely daughters, having a great time with his family, taking a much-needed break for today because, you know, he's been working so hard on all kinds of stuff happening on the channel.
Starting point is 00:00:16 I am here. At some point, with the great Steph Sabrata join me, have fun talking about some of the news stories that are popping up here in the world of entertainment. We're going to cover some Last Conjuring stuff, some DC stuff with Batman and Chris Pratt and other things down the line as well, like maybe some Brian Singer stuff, maybe some K-pop stuff, some Demon Hunter stuff, we'll see what pops up here as
Starting point is 00:00:42 we're doing the show. But I appreciate you clicking on the view to watch us live here on a Thursday. So let's not waste any time. Let's get into the show here. It's the Christian Harlem show, hosted by me, John Roka, with Steph Sabra. Here we go. Yo, what's up, everybody? welcome to a fun show here today on the Christian Harlov channel.
Starting point is 00:01:12 It is the Christian Harlov show. I am John Roker. The former outlaw John Roker here. As some of you know, my channel has changed over from the Outlaw Nation to the John Roker channel now fully officially. And of course, later on tonight at 4 p.m. PT, we'll be going live on the hot mic with me and Jeff Snyder. So if you've got, you've got to get a bit more of a tamer Roka in this particular forum, but certainly at 4 p.m. PT on my channel, John Roker says there, Jeff and I are going crazy.
Starting point is 00:01:39 But at some point, we will be having Steph Sabrae joining us. She's having a little bit of technical difficulties, but she will be in on the show today. So don't fret, don't worry. I know there's some of you out here are only you tune in to see Steph Sabra because you're not the biggest fan of me. And that's all right. That's as well,
Starting point is 00:01:55 it's a free country. You can like and not like anyone you like. But that's the situation there. So she'll be in just a second. But I'm going to have some fun talking about all kinds of stuff going on here. As I said earlier, We have stuff going on with conjuring the last rights. We're going to jump into some Brian Singer story as well, some DC James Gunn stuff. And what else have we got on the lineup today?
Starting point is 00:02:17 Harry Potter, Chris Columbus weighing in on Harry Potter and why he was fired from 2005's Fantastic Four. There's also rumors growing and getting stronger than Mike Coulter might be coming back as Luke Cage. Because we know that Jessica Ritter is back. Sorry, Kristen Ritter is back as Jessica Jones. And I'll be addressing me personally, I'll be addressing the madness that is going on around around the story that I talked about last Monday on this particular show with Christian Harlov. And maybe we should start there because I think the, I think we're waiting for Steph to show up. So I don't want to jump into too many of the topics until Jeff, Steph shows up.
Starting point is 00:02:58 So I'm going to go there. And by the way, we have, what do we have to beat? 74, 75. we have to beat Chris Carr's 79, I think, is what it was for Super Chat. So if you'd like to help us get to that goal and pass 79, we would very much appreciate it. Let's get to 80, 85 if we can today. And hopefully Steph will be on at some point here as we've got this going. But yeah, so let's address the first thing.
Starting point is 00:03:24 And that is I know a lot of people have been going crazy with this story over the Avengers Doomsday fight that happened on set. I talked about it last week. I want to make this really, really clear because this is a lot of, big enough forum with Christian Harlov's show and thank you to John Campi for backing me up and Christian Harleff for backing me up as well is that I really just said that last week
Starting point is 00:03:43 as a kind of underlying of what we've been hearing, underlining rather, of what we've been hearing about the drama and the controversy behind the scenes on the set of Avengers Doomsday. Jeff has been reporting on some of it. Also other scoopers have been reporting on some of it there as well. Daniel Rickman, my time to shine, hello. oh, there's very, you know, with there's smoke, there's fire most of the time,
Starting point is 00:04:06 especially when it comes to entertainment. And it seems pretty clear that the set behind the scenes, there's just a lot of drama going on. And, you know, you put that many actors on a set. You bring the Russo Brothers back. You put the pressure on that team to essentially save Marvel. And then you've got Thunderbolts underperforming, Captain America Four, eating the dirt a little bit. And then you have Fantastic Four underperforming.
Starting point is 00:04:32 So you're not ramping up to this incredible situation. Yes, maybe Spider-Man brand-new day will make over a billion dollars, and Marvel will feel like, hey, we've got ourselves a little bit of momentum. But you haven't done a great job to set up doomsday or to set up Secret Wars overall. I know there's some of you who are big, big, hardcore Marvel people, and you love all the movies that came before. And I totally respect that. I think that's absolutely great.
Starting point is 00:04:57 But we don't know for sure that they've done, well, I can say this. there are but it's pretty clear to a lot of people that they have not done a great job ramping up because of COVID because of maybe hiring the wrong creatives because of not having a strong direction post end game because of the stumbles maybe some of you feel the way they've catered to certain underserved groups in our fandom and how they've cast and the storylines they've told all of the combination and they ever all result because I think the number one thing is the results haven't been great the product has not been great as it was and not it was and not that the first three phases were,
Starting point is 00:05:34 or three, four phases were consistently amazing. It's more a matter of like the highs were so high that you could ride through the lows. Well, here there's, the highs are not as high. The lows are even lower. And I think there's a lot of mixed reactions to what we've gotten over the last two phases.
Starting point is 00:05:50 So leading into doomsday and Secret Wars, there's a lot of writing on this. And you factor in Robert Downey Jr.'s appearance at Comic-Con was like, half received great and half received not great. And so there was this drama that went on behind that as well. You would want more people to be excited to have Robert Downey Jr. back. But because it kind of felt to some people, to a lot of people, I would say,
Starting point is 00:06:17 a little bit of a desperate move bringing the Russo brothers back, a little bit of a desperate move, bringing one half of the writing team back that got you, Infinity War and game and other films felt like a little bit of a desperate move. So now it becomes a situation of, well, Marvel fans now, I think I can sense what my belief is that a lot of them have their arms folded, their eyebrows up, and they're not really sure how this is all going to go down. And so that's why we've been hearing so much drama, I think, coming out of that set.
Starting point is 00:06:48 And so I just want to clarify for people one more time because I see TikTok videos and social media videos still going on and on saying this stuff. But like the fight that I know of that happened on set and I've got more details on it, which I'll be revealing today at 4 p.m. PT on the hot mic is that it was not between Ryan Reynolds and Robert Down and Jr. I just want to make it very, very clear on as big of a forum as I can that it is not between Ryan Reynolds and RDJ. And it's sad that some people took that, ran with it so much that I think Robert Downey Jr's people had to issue or Marvel's people had to issue a statement saying they haven't even worked together. They haven't even met together on set, which I do think is true. So I just want to clarify that very strongly
Starting point is 00:07:28 for anybody who might be listening who runs a TikTok or runs a social media. This is a clarification. It is not RDJ and it's not Ryan Reynolds. It's neither one of those guys, nor is it both of those guys going at it as two other outspoken actors who got into it and I'll have more details on it tonight at 4PT.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Anyway, let's move on and welcome to the show. An incredible lady, one of my favorite people on the planet, who's had so many wonderful things happening to her lately. And I'm excited to be back on with her again on the Christian Harlow show. That is the great Steph Sabra. What's up, Steph? Hi.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Can I do this right? Wait, hold on. And then, there we go. Can you hear me? Yes. I like your, wait,
Starting point is 00:08:13 did you update some of your background? Yes, I changed some things around. I really like it. Thank you. Thank you. How are you? How are things?
Starting point is 00:08:22 Good. I'm excited to be. on with you you too you too what's going on in your world step what's what's the update with the step subrah what can you tell us that's happening not much i've been finally in the past i think it's been like a month and a half posting on youtube so the channel's going well we're on our way and it's been really exciting but i'm excited to hear the tea on your show today you know i love good drama This is kind of like blown out of proportion. I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:08:59 It was going to be this crazy. It really was a toss-off comment last week with Harloff. And the fact that it's become this massive thing where like People magazine is chiming in on it. And by the way, it's fascinating that almost none of these people are tagging me. So I haven't seen like an increase in numbers or anything like that. And people are like, oh, Roka did this for attention. Rogen did this to get subscribers. I did not.
Starting point is 00:09:21 It was literally just a comment. And I had no idea it was going to blow up the way it has. But, you know, I'm trying to clarify it wherever I can because people are running wild with their theories and their beliefs on all this kind of stuff. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I don't really think you do anything for subscribers. Like, you're very clearly just yourself. It's so true.
Starting point is 00:09:42 It's so true. You're like the opposite of a cloud chaser for real. Yeah, I try. I'm just not built to do it that way, you know? You're not. And neither am I. I hear you. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:09:54 Like you, I admire people that understand the game in the system and work the system in a way. And there's nothing wrong with it. Go get your bag. Go get your subscribers, whatever. But I'm not, it seems like a lot of effort. And for me, where I'm at right now, I'm in this place in my life where I'm just, I just want to do what I want to do. And then, you know, as it grows, it grows. Because it keeps growing every month.
Starting point is 00:10:16 It's not like I don't pick up subscribers every month. It's just that I'm not desperately jumping out there to do stuff, you know. Yeah. Yeah, I love. Yeah, I think it will pay off. We'll see. We'll see. Either way, I'm able to pay my bills and save money and that's all that matters because the world is crazy out there. Right. Right. So is there anything you want to talk about, Steph, anything you want to get into before we jump into the news stories? Are you ready to go? I don't. Christian just told me that what did he say that it, not nothing, that it was like a water park day. That's what he told people.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Yeah, it's a water park day. Great. Great. I love it. I actually haven't been to a water park in so long. I hear, once I heard nightmare stories from people who work at water parks and I've never been back. That every morning they, when they get on site, there's like 100 dead animals in the, just in the water, just getting caught. Yes, yes, yes. And there's no like actual way to clean that properly. my god breaking news man breaking news at every water park hey and then maybe they cover them now this was like six years ago i heard this drama and i was like ew uh oh some people are giving us some breaking news hold on a second here uh okay this is oh here we go yes just just broke 10 minutes ago let's bring this up step and then talk about it let me see if i can remember how to share a screen in my old age here here we go Oh, okay. Let's see. Can we get both of us on the screen? Which is, which setting is there?
Starting point is 00:11:57 No, no, it's just you. Oh, there we go. Boom. Let's do it. The latest Star Wars movie, Star Wars Starfighter, began rolling cameras in the UK Thursday. Oh, okay, so they've gone into production today with Lucasville making occasion by unveiling the full cast. Okay, we've got the full cast for Star Wars Starfighter. Flynn Gray, Aaron Pierre, Simon Burr, Jamal Westman, Daniel Ings, and Amy Adams, are the new editions on the call sheet for the Lucas film, which is being directed by Sean Levy and stars Ryan Gosling. Sean Levy said a statement. I feel a profound sense of excitement and honors.
Starting point is 00:12:30 We begin production on Star Wars Starfighter from the day Kathy Kennedy called me up, invited me to develop an original adventure in this incredible Star Wars galaxy. This experience has been a dream come true, creative, and personally. Star Wars shaped my sense of what story can do, how characters and cinematic moments can live with us forever. To join this storytelling galaxy with such brilliant collaborators on screen and off is the thrill of a lifetime. Starfighters are a standalone film not connected.
Starting point is 00:12:51 previous Star Wars movies supposedly or characters from the so-called Skywalker saga, the films revolving her on Skywalker and Anakin. There's, of course, Star Wars timeline that must be followed to blob. Mia Goth and Matt Smith were already revealed to be in the cast. So, Steph, Amy Adams, in Star Wars Starfighter.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I imagine she's probably playing the mother of the young kid, I would imagine. What do you think about this? Yeah, that's awesome. I'm such a big Amy Adams. There's a few names on there that's Exciting. Obviously, Amy Adams is like, she's just probably the longest running. I have to, I was trying to look up and double check the list. Um, but Aaron Pierre also very exciting just like a newer actor who's just kind of like shot into this fame very quickly. But kind of cool because I loved Rebel Ridge and it's kind of great seeing how many people are like, saw him from that. I'm sure he's been acting before that. But are. But are.
Starting point is 00:13:51 invested in his career and are like let's just get him on screen let's do dc let's do star wars let's go amy adams that's exciting i love amy adams yeah i would assume i um because the the general storyline of starfighter obviously is about the pilot ryan gosling right yes and then but what is the the mother part i miss that with the young kid well i think it's just basically he's going to take that young kid and oh okay yeah yeah yeah And they're going to write off together. And speaking of the young kid, as you put this up real quick stuff, this is the shot that was posted along with the announcement. Right there, Ryan Gosling with the audience.
Starting point is 00:14:34 That's pretty awesome, right? What a great shot. That's so great. Look at that. I love that. So, yeah, it's like, I don't know if I get tired of a father figure saving or a mother figure saving a child. And I know Star Wars is just like, this is our thing, okay? And we're just going to keep doing it.
Starting point is 00:14:56 But the thing about a great story is if it's a great story, it doesn't really matter if you hit some of the same beats. And if they find unique character points that separate it from, you know, what we've seen in Mandalorian or the OB1 series, then I think we would, I'm like totally for it. But it is interesting because I thought they were going to kind of steer clear of that type of. of storyline, but I, I, that picture excites me. I love that they're shooting on location. Um, and this newest cast announcement. It feels like they have a great hold on what they're doing, which is kind of all I can ask for from Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I just, all I want with Star Wars movies is like, I just want you guys to have a plan that you feel so 10 toes down in, confident. And I'm, and I'm ready to get back to the theater. That's a good point. But I mean, this is a very strong cast. Matt Smith, Mia Zoff, Aaron Pierre, Amy Adams, Daniel Ings, Jamal Westman, Simon Bird, and the kid, Flynn Gray. This is a child actor here who has been working in stuff since 2022.
Starting point is 00:16:08 He was in The Santa Stories. He was in Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey, too. Oh, my gosh. He was in six episodes of a series called Borderline, which I'm not too familiar with. me and dad going Dutch one episode of Sherlock and Daughter which was a new series that dropped on CW earlier this year
Starting point is 00:16:27 and one episode of Wednesday the opening episode of the second season of Wednesday he was in there as Omar one of the Caliban boys so a young act of Wait let me look at this guy because I'm watching Wednesday Are you watching Wednesday? I have not caught up on the new season no I got to
Starting point is 00:16:43 It's in the queue there's like three or four shows I've got to get through this week and next week to catch up with everything It must have been a really small role or I was just not focused because I don't remember him, but this is like a kid's dream come true. And I think we're at a better place as a fan base where we're not going to bully a child. So I just want to say it from now when the movie comes out. And if you don't like this character, just keep it to yourself. Yeah, exactly. He's a child.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Let the kid be. But I hope he's awesome. I hope he's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, and just to clarify, some people are asking, is this official? Yes, this is official. According to Star Wars, it's on their official Star Wars account. It was also broken here on the Hollywood Reporter, or at least what I'm reading right here from Boris Kit, who is a noted scooper there and journalist at the Hollywood Reporter.
Starting point is 00:17:35 So this is confirmed. These are the cast members, Aaron, Pierre, Amy Adams, two of the notable cast members to be joining Matt Smith and Mia Gauth. Flynn Gray, as we mentioned, Simon Bird, Jamal Westman, Daniel Eng,'s reiterating that as well. To me, this is, and I even like the picture, Steph, the fact that they went with a black and white picture, it makes me feel that there is a little bit more of a serious approach to this film than, say, just honoring the Star Wars stuff. It feels like they're very much bringing in a strong crew of actors who are well-known, which Star Wars doesn't always do. I mean, it's really rare when Star Wars casts well-known actors. It's usually Star Wars that gets them to be well-known. Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill, Kerry Fisher were somewhat known. back in the night when they were cast.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Of course, Harrison Ford, I think had done American graffiti by that point and a really small part in apocalypse now, but wasn't really a household name necessarily. The Star Wars made all three of them household names. And then, of course, James Earl Jones had had some notoriety on stage and on screen as well, before he became the voice of Vader. And then you look at the prequel trilogy. Yes, Natalie was known, but Hayden Christensen wasn't that well known. And then you go, and Ewan was known as well.
Starting point is 00:18:46 And then you go into the sequel trilogy. We didn't know Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, Oscar Isaac that well, and that helped them catapult them and superstardom. So the fact that they're starting out in this way, I think, is a fascinating approach to it all. And you're having two really strong multifaceted actors in Ryan Gosling and Amy Adams. And then you throw in an up-and-comer like me at Goth and Aaron Pierre. And then Matt Smith, who's really been building his resume on screen,
Starting point is 00:19:13 both in House of the Dragon and in other projects as well. So, you know, I'm excited about this overall. Yeah, it's a very interesting mix. I think it's an awesome mix of like full on A listers, like you said with Ryan Gossling and Amy Adams. And then the like Matt Smith and in Mia Gauth are two people that I definitely just, I love every time they're on screen and I want to see more of them. So it's not like I have zero fatigue with them at all, but they're established. and I think get people excited. And then they have,
Starting point is 00:19:50 and within that list, obviously Aaron Pierre is getting a lot of notoriety. But I think it's just like a good mix of people who it's like, like I don't think that we're going to have like some of people were worried, especially with the first name being Ryan Gosling. They're like, oh,
Starting point is 00:20:08 is the rest of the cast going to be like all at that level? Like we want new people. And I think it's a nice mix. I do. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I think it is a nice mix as well. And it's what you want to see here. And I think it shows Sean Levy's confidence and that actors want to work with him in a project like this.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Because, you know, Star Wars right now, there's so much toxicity around the brand. There's so much, like if you go in there and you don't do a good job, there's a whole fandom waiting to jump on you with both feet. So the fact that these actors are willing to walk into this because of the trust and confidence they have with Sean Levy and to an extension, the Lucasfilm brand. I think speaks volumes and it makes me feel confident about this project as well. And I think what you said is very important. I hope this machine is ready to take care of Flynn Gray and make sure he doesn't get any kind of crap. And like Jake Lloyd did and is able to survive the experience. And hopefully if it's a great film, people start to get excited because Mandu and Grogu,
Starting point is 00:21:07 you know, we're going to get that for sure. And this is clear the next film in the pipeline. If they're already starting to shoot the film, so that means that this is the next film that's coming and then we'll see what happens after that. But if they come out the gate with these two films and these two films are well received, then I think people are going to be much more excited about Star Wars and the things that are coming possibly from Mangold.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And we'll see if we get that Ray movie and what form or iteration we'll get that as well. So yeah, I like this. Yeah, yeah, I think it's a good mix out the gate between Mandalorian Grogu and this because Mandalorian and Grogu is obviously an extension of Mandalorian. So it's just going to be kind of like, it'll be a movie, obviously, but it's from the TV show.
Starting point is 00:21:50 And it's very established characters. People now love Mandalorian and Grogu's separately and kind of the space that they've created. And then with Starfighter, it's kind of a more like rag tag type story that's smaller. And I think it's important to have both of those going because they don't quite know yet exactly. Like, you know, they don't have like a. full-on DCEU new vision. So I think it's, and there's like a beauty to that where they don't have to do all major stories that all connect to each other necessarily.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Yeah. Yeah. Do you think, do you see any pitfalls right now with, with looking at the situation? Or does the casting and everything like this make you feel now a little more confident that they've maybe found the right mix and the right formula? Yeah, I feel pretty confident. I think with the rest of the cast announced, I feel even more excited about it.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Something about Matt Smith, just being a villain probably is really exciting to me. Mia Goth is like the horror queen right now. And I just, I feel like there was something about, and even Ryan Gosling is pretty selective on the, the movies he works on. So it's not like,
Starting point is 00:23:06 with those three actors being like the first three named, I actually had a pretty good feeling about it. Because obviously, you know, there's the case to be made that anyone's going to be in a Star Wars movie no matter where they're in right now with the fan base. But I do think that those three, especially like a Matt Smith and Amia Gauth, don't just like take on anything. So I feel like that to me was a good sign of a good script that they had received and were like, oh yeah, I want to be a part of this. And then the rest of it is just exciting. I really hope it's a smash, honestly. Yeah, I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I hope it's a smash as well because usually, because clearly the Star Wars brand needs it. And I think it would be massive to have it happen. So we'll see. And of course, they're starting production. So I'm sure we're going to start to hear a little bit more about the story, a little more detail, stuff like that coming out of the set.
Starting point is 00:23:58 So I think it is time to get excited. Maybe some of you feel cautiously excited about it, but it is time to get a little bit excited about this and see what the end result's going to be. All right. Well, let me go to the, let's go to a little bit of commercial. Steph will be back with some other stuff here in just a second. So thank you guys so much for watching the Christian Harlov show this far.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Steph's Abra on now joining me. But what do you guys think about this story? What do you think about the breaking news here of all these actors coming on, Amy Adams, Aaron Pierre, Flynn Gray, as the young kid, joining Ryan Gosling, Mia Gauth, and Matt Smith. Are you excited about this? Sean Levy is the director and all this. The first photo that was released in black and white on top of a speeder.
Starting point is 00:24:37 There's a kind of confidence to that kind of shot. What do you think about all of that? let us know down in the comments section below. And don't forget that all the stuff that's going on here to subscribe to Christian Harlov's YouTube channel and become part of the memberships. There's so much going on, so many benefits you get from the memberships as well. We'll be right back right after this. I know that you've heard of Viagra.
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Starting point is 00:27:12 Let's move on from the Star Wars stuff. And, of course, send in your super chats, everybody. I want to make a quick reminder on that. We only have four super chats and we're trying to beat Chris Carr, who has 79. You can't tell me that the combo of Steph Sabraa and Roka does not merit more than 79 super chats. Come on, people. Send them in.
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Starting point is 00:27:58 Let's move on to this other story here. Step, let's jump into some conjuring news here that's gone on here. And this is a fascinating. story as well. The Last Rights reactions they reveal whether it's a worthy send-off for the long-running
Starting point is 00:28:13 horror series. The Conjuring The Last Rites is the ninth and final entry in the two-plus billion-dollar conjuring franchise. And it will see director Michael Shaves, The Conjuring, The Devil May Me Do It, step behind the camera to helm the long-running series send-off. The movie promises
Starting point is 00:28:29 to deliver another thrilling chapter in the Conjuring cinematic universe based on supposedly real events. Vince. Viram Farmiga and Patrick Wilson reunite for one last case as renowned real-life paranormal investigators Ed Lorraine Warren and what's described by Newland as a quote, powerful and spine-chilling edition of the franchise.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Formiga and Wilson star alongside Mia Tomlinson and Ben Hardy who portray Ed and Lorraine's daughter, Judy Warren, and her boyfriend, Tony Spara, as well as Steve Colter returning his father, Gordon, Rebecca, called her Elliot Cohen, blah, blah, blah. As we first reporter on FearHQ.com, the first social media reactions just dropped. Here we go. They're mostly positive. It's being hailed
Starting point is 00:29:04 as the scariest installment yet. being called a perfect ending to Ed and Lorraine's stories. Others were a little more mixed on the movie describing it as, quote, not as scary and surprisingly dull at times and quote a lesser version of a tired template. James Wan, though, recently explained an interview. We don't want to be doing this 20 movies down the line where we've driven the franchise into the ground. We love the idea that we're going out with a big bang whilst everyone is still loving
Starting point is 00:29:27 the world. Yeah, they quote Courtney Howard here. He says they saved the scariest emotional chapter for the last with last rights. Andre San Alvin says it's a big. screen must see epic conclusion. Terrifying, emotional, thrilling, pure horror magic. Perry Nemarov says it's a solid conclusion to Patrick Wilson. I know what she means when she says solid and further proves it's some of the very best
Starting point is 00:29:48 casting of all time. Matthew Cote says, seems like the social media embargo has lifted for conjuring last right. It's not going to lie. I was not a big fan, but it might be Michael Chavez's best work. Jonathan Simms says it's a mediocre entry to a long-running horror franchise. Aaron Newworth says being one of the more unexpected cinematic universe, is to emerge. I was pretty satisfied
Starting point is 00:30:07 with how Last Rights wraps things up. And Tessa Smith, my lady over there at Mama's Geeky said, it's not just a worthy entry in the franchise. It feels like the perfect ending. So, Steph, your thoughts when you hear these first reactions to The Conjuring Last Rites here, this gets you more excited and see it, less excited to see it. Were you even going to see it? And have you seen
Starting point is 00:30:27 any of the movies in the franchise? I was literally looking up if I saw it because a part of me says I've seen one of them. I definitely, I love Vera Formiga. I've seen her in one horror film and I was like, wow, she's incredible. And I thought it was the conjuring, but I can't find it. So I don't know. You guys let me know if you know I saw it. This is the thing. You know, I don't like scary movies, but I remember growing up and the conjuring did such a good job of establishing itself as like the scariest movie. I heard that around the conjuring all the time. I, oh,
Starting point is 00:31:05 conjuring is actually the scariest movie it's like how can you i mean that's great that they've marketed themselves like that i think in the years to come there's been like really really scary movies that have come out and kind of give it a a little fight but i do think it's such a great franchise um in general just like as an outsider um and most people feel really happy with a lot of the movies in the franchise from what i'm aware of um the it seems like people are thinking the same thing, right? Like that it's the scariest movie of it. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:44 That makes, no, that doesn't make me want to see it. That makes me want to see it less. But I love that for the horror nerds out there because I know they're just like looking for something to make them feel something. So hopefully this is it. 100%. Yeah. I mean, I think the reactions are pretty strong for the most part and from people I trust when
Starting point is 00:32:04 comes to horror. So that's a good thing. I have seen, I think I've only seen a couple of films in the franchise of The Conjuring stuff. And like you, I'm not a big fan of scary movies because I got enough scary things in my life. I don't need to add that to the mix. But when they're done well, they're certainly worth it. And I was surprised to see that it's a $2 billion plus franchise. I had no idea. I mean, Patrick Wilson, our Vera Farminga should be eating well now off of this franchise if it really is a $2 billion plus franchise that's amazing for all the people involved in it so and it is kind of it's one of these franchises that clearly is strong financial franchise but it doesn't get the same it's not the same conversation as people bring up like
Starting point is 00:32:48 Halloween or Friday 13th or scream or all these kinds of things and it's fascinating because I would argue making $2 billion plus puts you in the conversation with these franchises so it's fascinating that people don't talk about it. the same way. Yeah, it's, I, I feel like it's, it might be to their benefit in some sense, because I do feel like, and I mean this with love, I, but I feel like the horror viewers don't love super commercialized. It's like once something comes commercialized, they're like, think it's feeding the masses and it's no longer cool, you know what I mean? And I think the conjuring's done a good job of being, I don't know, it's like I haven't heard that, that, um, the sigh
Starting point is 00:33:35 of another one of the conjuring. It's like done established itself as like, we're going to make a movie when we feel like it's a good story and it doesn't feel like people are exhausted of them yet. And I, I have read that the, the main cast really gets along. So that's awesome too. I love when you hear that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm looking right now. at what is it bloody disgusting.com. This is from January of 2024. One of the horror franchises to hit one billion.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Saw franchise is 1.1 billion. Resident Evil, this might surprise people, is in there at 1.2 billion. It is there at 1.1 billion as well. Alien is up there at 1.6 billion, but the conjuring is at 2.4 billion. That's crazy. I haven't even mentioned scream.
Starting point is 00:34:30 I haven't even mentioned Friday 13th. I haven't even mentioned a nightmare on Elm Street. Like the fact that it is beating its closest competition by a billion dollars, or a little bit under a billion dollars, that is surprising on so many levels. So maybe it's time people started talking about this franchise in a different way, in a different context. Yeah, it's massive.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I can't believe that it has done that well. I may have to catch up on this franchise. that's pretty I was that is a massive number that's pretty surprised I guess it's not that surprising because I do see it on max all the time or HBO now they have such identity issues but I I know really like I
Starting point is 00:35:16 have such a vendetta against them for changing in the first place like I haven't even talked about this yet I'm glad I actually have a space to talk about this I have beef with HBO because we We all liked HBO. We all liked HBO as it is. It was HBO,
Starting point is 00:35:36 the, you know, the old TV static, and then it left. And it's like, no one asked for you to change that. Then all of a sudden they go Max,
Starting point is 00:35:49 which is a name. It's a household name. I have many friends named Max. There's dogs named Max. There's people named Max. There's characters and movies named Max. It's, It's confusing.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Not only did they change it to Max, they made us download a new app. My old app wasn't working. And then I had to download a new app in this generation of I want it now and I don't want discomfort thanks to things like Amazon Prime. To download a new app was such a massive ask. But I did it. You know why? Because they've had bangers after bangers after bangers and I respect it.
Starting point is 00:36:26 then they go back to HBO and it's like I just don't know do you got are you guys going to actually stay like this because I need to be able to trust in something. Like I don't even know what I just got used to calling you max and now we're going back to HBO. They're lucky you didn't let me make me download a new app. That was the best decision you made because I don't know if I would have made it.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's an excellent point you bring up step. I think you should ever write to clip this out and make this, put this on your channel. That's a very strong statement. And you know, I agree with you. And it's so insane how Zadlov has been able to get away with this.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Show up, split up the brand and then go, my bad, y'all. I'm going to put you all back together again. And now I'm going to sell you off because this is what's going to be HBO Max and this is what's going to be something else. And now we're just going to put it out on the market. So who knows, there may be more changes coming. because they're trying to sell WB. And if they sell WB to someone who goes,
Starting point is 00:37:30 you know what? We're just going to change it all back to HBO. Then you're going to have even more of it. Like, what the hell is going on here? So yeah, it's madness. It is. Just know who you are. Just know who you are.
Starting point is 00:37:45 This is the problem with like hyper capitalism. It's like, can we just like have, can we just have something, you know, so you don't have to fire employees and then bring them back? It's like crazy. I want one app. I want one thing to call you.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I mean, you get the chance to change. You do. You got the one chance. You get to evolve. Right. You do. You do get to evolve if you get to let me know. But it doesn't feel like it's for real, real interests that I respect.
Starting point is 00:38:17 It's like, okay, guys, I need you to show. Anyways, to my point, I always see the conjuring on HP. B.O. Okay. So they've got that running. And, and so they're really popular. It's true. The two point billion makes a little bit more sense when you really think about it. It's like deck, it's over a decade now, right? Of them just. I, I remember as a kid growing up when it first came out and every, like, it was that in the ring that people were like, what the hell? This is like the new this is crazy and I remember people talking about it like you got it. It's like it's like real.
Starting point is 00:39:02 It's in the house. It was so crazy. People talked about it. Yeah. The first conjuring was 2013. So yes, over a decade that they've been doing these films. Yeah. Great point stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Yeah. All right. Well, that's that's our thoughts on the conjuring. What do you think about it? Let us know. Send in your super chats. We're up to 10 now. Come on, y'all.
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Starting point is 00:39:41 the Avengers Doomsday stuff I was talking about at the beginning of the show. All right, Seth, let's move on to this other stuff. We got some more drama to talk about here in the world of entertainment. James Goh. I don't know if people know this guy, but he has got some comments yet again because James has comments. And he was asked about the idea of Chris Pratt possibly being the Batman as speculation mounts that the Dark Night will debut in Peacemaker at the start of 2020. 23 DC studios announced plans for 10 DCU movies, blah, blah, blah, blah, creature commandos premiered late last year. Lanterns is right around the corner with Aaron Pierre, which I don't think we even mentioned when we were talking about him.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Waller boosted gold and Paradise lost are stuck in limbo, although he claims they're still being worked on. Peacemaker's season two, which wasn't announced as come to fruition and expected to include some big surprises. Earlier this summer, Gunn said that the second season of peacemakers, quote, very much connected to Superman, and it's very much connected to what comes after and promised fans, quote, one really, really big cameo near the end of the show talking to, yeah, I'm not even going to try to say that. Gun doubled down on that by saying, we have, quote, some really big, big stars for the DC universe that are going to be near the end of the season. Now, this might be true, well, this
Starting point is 00:40:54 was probably true because we were sent the first five episodes of Peacemaker, and there's some interesting cameos in those five episodes. So I wonder what more they've got lined up for later on in the season. But speculation is running wild with many fans theorizing that the filmmakers
Starting point is 00:41:09 planned to introduce the DCUs. Batman if gone to secretly cast the Cape Crusader ahead of next year's Clayface movie, that would be a huge surprise. We'll have to wait and see what happens, though. We're not banking on a Batman Camio, cord to thecombook movie.com. But the DC Studios co-CEO has confirmed that he has no intention of casting
Starting point is 00:41:25 Chris Pratt as the Dark Night. When he was asked about it, he said, quote, as Batman know as something else. Yes, he teased. While that may come as a relief to many of you, Bruce Way not being cast, means the brave and a bold is still no closer to becoming a reality over three
Starting point is 00:41:41 years. But there was another comment he made. I don't have, we don't have it up here on the screen, so I'm just going to read it. because i got it off a where is it off a here here we go um when he was asked about the dc u's batman also recently he clarified uh in his comments what is going on and this is according to screen rant you can see the video on youtube he said we'll have to see what we're doing with batman and figuring that out so obviously we know some basics about where it's going with batman but we're also
Starting point is 00:42:12 figuring out figuring some things out so everything is fluid so a lot of comments about bama because everyone wants to know about Batman. Are you exhausted by all of this, or do you appreciate the somewhat update here from James Gunn? Okay, so I just confirmed what I thought. I'm a James Gun fan, by the way, so I'll say this. But he's a Leo, guys. This makes so much sense.
Starting point is 00:42:39 He's a Leo, and he loves to be in the conversation. And that's why there's so many famous Leo's. Because they are just like ready to talk. They're ready to have the conversation. And it makes so much sense now. Like my guy James Gunn is Leo and he can't help it. He's just like, you know, he's like, you give him a little teaser of a conversation. And he's like, let's go.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Let's talk. But I'm glad. I am glad that Chris Pratt, that would make zero sense to me in any universe. and I I like to em as Star Lord Guardians of the Galaxy is like one of my favorite trilogies loved it
Starting point is 00:43:26 do not see that working at all. What I did see in my head was James Guns talked a lot about how he loves the character Batmite and I could see Chris Prap being actually a really funny bat might like a
Starting point is 00:43:43 quick little you know kind of like a spider ham and Spider-Pig and you just like have that funny character for like two scenes and that's it that could really work for me and actually could do a lot of good for his reputation. I'd love to see him come back into more of the funnier roles
Starting point is 00:44:01 a little bit. But yeah, that makes that makes sense. What I will say, it's like I do think that there is a lot of confusion with the Batman character as a whole because of the Reeves universe and not exactly knowing what's going to happen fully with Patinson.
Starting point is 00:44:19 What I would like to see, but I know it's kind of confusing just on the way the DCEU is set up and how he wants everything to connect is that they just let Matt Reeves have his own little pocket. And then they just, it's so different that I think as a viewer,
Starting point is 00:44:37 I don't know, I can't speak for others because I could totally see the argument going the other way. I think I'd be able to separate two Batman's living in different space and time. one in with the with you know this the corn swept superman and then we have a new batman and then one in like the like because the two different um like the visuals of the movies are so it just feels like they're in two different worlds at two different times so but i don't i don't know what are you fatigued about it well we talk about it a lot because he i know he won't stop talking if he stopped talking we wouldn't be coming covering him, but he just talks all the time. So we have to cover it and parse out what he's trying to say.
Starting point is 00:45:21 And I know there are a lot of James Gunn's fan, James Gunn fans who are just like, whatever he says is the Bible and I worship it. I respect it. But we have to be a counter to that on the hot mic for the most part and call out certain ways that James Gunn is talking about things and the things that he's saying. And I think you're right to point out the Leo thing. I'm not surprised by that now that you say it.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I never thought to look him up horoscope wise. But yeah, that makes a lot of sense. It's either Scorpio or Leo. They like to be in the middle of stuff. Totally. Good job. I'm proud of you for knowing that. Well, I'm on the Scorpio Libra cusp.
Starting point is 00:45:55 So I'm in a passionate search for balance. That's what I say. But this whole situation here, the Chris Pratt thing, I'd never thought that would be a possibility. But I don't understand why people might think that. Because the brave and the bold is a little bit more in line with like the Adam West. old school TV version of the Batman. It's a little more slightly camp, a little more accessible,
Starting point is 00:46:19 a little more fun. So I can understand going that route if they wanted to go there. It doesn't mean the serious stuff doesn't happen in Brave and the Bolt, but it has a little bit more of a camp or humor to it. So Chris Pratt would maybe make sense
Starting point is 00:46:32 in that situation. I think where Chris Pratt belongs is booster gold. That is the number one thing. I know they've talked about Kumana and Johnny and maybe that will happen. Lord knows he could use it after those recent interviews
Starting point is 00:46:42 talking about how much he was devastated by the loss of the eternal situation. But like, I think he is so fun to play booster gold. White blonde guy who is out of touch with how out of touch he really is coming from the future, thinks he's smarter than he actually is, gets himself in his situations. And if you find the right Ted cord to play the original Blue Beetle, because I think Jaime Reyes is coming back. It seems like what Gunn said,
Starting point is 00:47:07 then you've got, you're going to find really great chemistry that would be fun for the DC universe to have. So I think Pratt is much more of a booster gold than he is a Batman. But the Batmite thing, that is actually a real fun idea that I would be a thousand percent on board with. And certainly he has shown the ability to use people like Bradley Cooper as the voice of Rocket or diesel as the voice of Groot or even Stallone as the voice of King Shark and make it work. So I think that would be a lot of fun to see Chris Pratt coming in. But clearly he wants to work with him, James Gunn does. So at some point we will see him.
Starting point is 00:47:41 And I think all the guardians are going to end up in the DC universe at some point playing notable characters. We'll see how they do that. But yeah. Yeah, has, um, how am I forgetting her name, Gamora Zoe played been in the DC EU? Zoe's out. I don't think she, no, she not yet, not yet. Okay, because she, if she does that, she is literally Thanos. Like she has just collected every major franchise.
Starting point is 00:48:11 And I will be so pumped. I am, I love her. I love her. Yeah, that would be fun. Yeah, I wouldn't really,
Starting point is 00:48:19 it's like, it's hard. Chris Prats, the only one that I feel like, uh, some people feel fatigue because he just had such massive franchises for like seven years strong. Just being the lead guy.
Starting point is 00:48:33 So, but the other ones, I wouldn't feel that. But I do feel like James Gunn does a pretty good job of kind of what we were talking about with the start. Wars casting of doing a mix of really known actors and then kind of more up and coming, which I think is a nice balance to be had. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:50 I like the, and I think Dave Patiste is going to end up there eventually. Wouldn't be surprised Vin Dees. I mean, listen, that Fast and Furious franchise ain't feeding him anymore as like it did before. So I wouldn't be surprised if they find a place for Vin in there. Bradley Cooper is already in there now as, as Jorel, Superman's dad. So, you know, step by step.
Starting point is 00:49:11 and and palm clementiaf certainly could be in that universe and have some fun with as well and yeah yeah i don't want to spoil anything but yeah anyway um all right i almost spoiled something but yeah i'm gonna let it go uh anyway and so that could be a lot of fun but that's james guns comments on batman let us know what you think what are your thoughts on james gun's comments is he talking too much do you think it's a leo situation who do you want to see as batman what do you think chris pack could play in the dc universe if he was a part of of the DC universe let us know that send in your super chats here as we go along come on people 13 super chats we got almost 600 of you're watching let's get to 80 send in your super chat send in your
Starting point is 00:49:52 questions thoughts and comments for step and i here on the show all right let's move on to another story here step what else have we got in the mix of things oh yes this chris columbus story so let's get into that talking harry potter and um uh fantastic four from 2005 here he is Chris Columbus has helmed many enduring family blockbusters, including Home Alone, Mrs. Delfire, and the first two installments in the Harry Potter movie franchise. You can probably see why that would make him a good fit to helm a movie around Marvel's first family. The filmmaker was credited as an executive producer on Fantastic Four from 2005, but confirmed in a new interview quote that he had nothing to do with it.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Columbus intended to direct the Marvel Comics adaptation, but was fired after a meeting with studio execs. He said we were in a weird situation on the first fan. Fantastic Four. I had worked on a script. There were a lot of writers involved. They were about to make a movie and I was producing it. I met with the director and had some ideas. I basically said some of this conceptual arts should feel more like Jack Kirby, the creator the Fantastic Four, and should feel more like the silver age of Marvel. I left that meeting and on the way back from my house. I got a call from the head of 20th Century Fox saying I was fired and had too much of an opinion. What? Columbus apparently circled many superhero movies around that time, including Spider-Man and Daredevil. However, being fired from Fantastic. 4 quote probably soured me a little over the years people have done it so well that i personally lost interest in making a superhero movie it started a little bit with spider man's two when i saw what sam ramey did with what with that i thought it was a perfect superhero movie certainly mat rees of the batman with robert penson was a brilliant film too i realized i don't have a desire to make those movies anymore because people are doing them better than i ever could at this point in my career so uh what
Starting point is 00:51:34 do your thoughts on that stuff is talk about uh getting let go for fantastic four because he wanted to do it in the style that eventually would be the style that Matt Shackman did, which was the Jack Kirby 1950s style and the Sober H style. What do you thoughts on? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:51:49 it's always funny to hear the stories all these years later that you would just never think of. And it's so crazy. All the stories were probably going to continue to hear from these major universes like DC and Marvel. because there is that in Star Wars
Starting point is 00:52:10 when you're working with a company or you franchise like that, you have some say and but most of the time you are hired because you're able to kind of fit into what their overall vision is. Now, I don't know, like, I think some people are the exceptions
Starting point is 00:52:28 because I feel like Christopher Nolan was kind of given the keys to do his own thing and that really paid off. And it's like exists in its own, little place. But I think for the most part, it's really hard for these creators to, you know, they're hired because they have a distinctive vision and kind of style. And then they're very quickly kind of beat down. And we see these changes all the time and mid mid, mid filming or production or even post sometimes you hear about a fallout. So that makes sense. I also totally understand
Starting point is 00:53:04 what he's saying in terms of like, when you see something that you originally felt like you could do because no one was doing it. And then you see someone do it so well, you're like, okay, like I think that's good discretion. Like,
Starting point is 00:53:17 because really you should be making stories because you haven't seen that story told the way you want to tell it. But then once it is, it's like, well, now it's like almost impossible not to feel like I'm copying or whatever it may be. So I get that. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Right. Yeah, I think it's an interesting redcon now to say that because who's going to verify this with anyone, right? Chris, well, I had the same idea years ago, but they kicked me off the film for one. And I don't know if fired is the right term to use because it seems like they were still in negotiations about what he wanted to do with the movie. So maybe they just felt the idea of him having too much of an opinion. and he's painting the meeting as being just me exchanging some ideas, and they fired me for having an opinion. There was probably more heated back and forth going on behind the scenes,
Starting point is 00:54:10 and then the execs were like, yeah, this is not where we want to go. And he seems pretty determined to do it in a certain way. And we think our way, the way we want to do it, is the better way to go about it to capture what people want to see. Because who knows if you had done the 1950s Jack Kirby type of energy back in 2005, would people have really been here for it? I don't know. so maybe the executives felt a certain way about it.
Starting point is 00:54:32 And they brought in Tim Story who had done, who had only done Barbershop before that movie. He'd also done Taxi, but that's a terrible Jimmy Fallon, Queen Latifah movie. But Barbershop had a lot of buzz behind it. So it was an interesting choice to bring in a black director to take on Fantastic Four.
Starting point is 00:54:52 And arguably, there are people who like those two movies and defend those two movies. I don't, but certainly there are a lot of people that did and made it. million. So who knows if Chris Columbus would have necessarily done a good job with those movies. Because I also think Chris has a bit of a mixed record. I think the first two installments of the Harry Potter franchise are arguably the weakest installments of the Harry Potter franchise. It doesn't really kick in until the third installment, Prisoner of Ascaband, which Alfonso
Starting point is 00:55:18 Quaron did. That was amazing. And so it got on from there. And David Yates, I think did an excellent job with that franchise as well down the road. So yeah, it's a great, it's an interesting comment. But speaking of the Harry Potter stuff, let's move on to that. He has comments about it because I said he graduated the first two. Oh, sorry, he directed the first two installments of the recent films. He was talking to Variety about the possibility of him being a part of the Harry Potter franchise. And he said, no, I've done it. You saw my version.
Starting point is 00:55:51 There's nothing left for me to do in the world of Harry Potter. Because right now he is promoting Thursday Murder Club that is on Netflix right now. but he said he saw the first pictures of this all, and he wasn't that impressed when he looked at the photos of what the first photos that were released. He said, I'm seeing these photographs, and Nick Frost is wearing the exact same costume that we designed for Hagrid.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Part of me was like, what's the point? I thought the costumes and everything was going to be different, but it's more of the same. It's all going to be the same. And he was saying that on the Restis Entertainment podcast, there in his comments. So what are your thoughts on that? That he is,
Starting point is 00:56:31 this is a guy who is connected to the Harry Potter franchise saying that the costumes and the pictures he's seeing that there's no new ground being broken here. Do you sense that he is like the first of many who are going to have this feeling about this series? It's coming out.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Yeah, for sure. I think it's bound to happen. And I think like we were just saying with the superhero, movies or any movie that you had an idea of and then later someone executed it really well. I love the Harry Potter franchise. I think that it is such a magical franchise and there's something for everyone. Depending like where you are in your life, there's a movie that really, really works.
Starting point is 00:57:16 I happen to like all of them for what they are, especially dealing with like little children at the beginning. They're in like fourth grade, right? So they're so young. But I it's like how are they not going to? It's already in their head. Like unless they got everyone on set who hadn't seen the movies at all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Then you have a fighting chance of coming up with something a little different. But because everyone seen the movies probably more than once. Like you know, ABC family is responsible for me seeing it about a hundred times. So I mean, as soon as November here. they're playing Harry Potter movies. And before streaming, like that, it's ingrained in my head. So you have an entire group population that couldn't get away from Harry Potter. So I don't even know, like, it's like if I was on set, it would be, I thought about this.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Like with different, how do you, you'd have to like, I'd have to go to like EMDR training to be like, get the visions of the previous costumes and the mannerisms out of my head. because I don't know how they would do it. I don't know how they're going to do it. Now, that's not really a make or break for me. Let's say it is kind of almost a copy and paste with a little differences here and there, of course, because I have a feeling it might be like Lord of the Rings extended version,
Starting point is 00:58:45 where because the movies missed a lot of parts that the books had, and that was the book reader's biggest complaints, you know, Ginny got, Jenny got the warm side of the pillow the entire franchise. Like she never got to sleep on the cold side of the pillow because they just kind of like forgot like didn't include they like showed one moment where she's badass but like really Ginny is like so awesome in the books.
Starting point is 00:59:11 And then there's like a few things characters like that, a few storylines like that. And so I'm sure we're going to get like extended versions of that which will be awesome because it's a series and that's the beauty of a series and what it can allow and kind of just grow on it. But in terms of like, I don't know, it does seem very, very, it's hard to get away from. What are you, did you read the books? Are you, are you like being? Yeah, I played the character at, you know, Universal Studios for two years of. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, the wand keeper. I was the guy in the show who, like, picks somebody out of the crowd and does the whole thing. And, you know, there's pictures of me doing it. You can see. So I was very proud to be part of
Starting point is 00:59:53 that for a very long time in terms of the time I was there because two years is a long time for me and sitting in there doing that and seeing the experience and how much people love Harry Potter, it really added even newer element to the fandom of Harry Potter that I already had. And I really saw how that franchise emotionally moves people. Like it's amazing. I had an experience one time with a young woman. I picked her out of the crowd because it's up to us to pick out people who we see as big Harry Potter fans. is 30 people in a room and then you're doing your whole spiel and then you go,
Starting point is 01:00:26 ah, I sense magic from you and you bring them forward. Well, this woman I had chosen, she was there with her three sisters. Their mother had just died of cancer and had paid for them to go to Universal Studios as a final gift to them before she passed on. And so they were just in tears the whole time as I was talking to them after, because the crowd eventually, the 30 people leave and then you stay with the person and their family there to talk to them for a little bit. before they go and you give them this whole spiel about how to handle the wand and be careful
Starting point is 01:00:57 with the wand and all of that in character and i just those are those moments you saw what people were so moved by this thing and so for me i really care about the franchise so the idea that they were going to do a reboot of this tv series wise i am excited in in two ways one i think francesicartner is a great choice because she was on succession so i think they're going to explore more of the darker edges of the Harry Potter franchise that Chris Columbus and did not necessarily explore in the first two movies. And then Alfonso Coron did to a degree in David Yates did as well. I'm excited to see what more they discover as they're going through the series that they
Starting point is 01:01:37 can bring out now and add a bit more maturity to it than people who have just seen the movies might expect from the Potter franchise. So that's what I'm hoping for. That being said, though, I think Chris is absolutely right. there's not much when you look at the newer versions and the older versions, there really isn't that much of a difference.
Starting point is 01:01:55 And look, you're not going to stray too far away from it costume-wise because you know people lose their damn minds as we see in our world of entertainment. But still, you want to have something that sparks a feeling that it's new,
Starting point is 01:02:07 but also adheres to the original stuff. And those pictures don't make it necessarily look like they stand out. So I get Chris, point, but we'll have to see when the first trailers drop, we'll have to see when the first footage drops if it feels distinctly unique. Because if it feels like a retread,
Starting point is 01:02:26 people are going to turn on this very, very strongly. And if you think you've seen the DC fandom and the Marvel fandom and the Star Wars fandom go insane, start fucking around with Harry Potter and see what happens. I mean, they already went after J.K. Rowling
Starting point is 01:02:42 for obviously her comments and what have you. So they'll have no problem going after this franchise with Both, you know, feet. You're talking about Dumbledore's Army. Yep. We're coming strong. Yep.
Starting point is 01:02:54 We're warriors. We're fighters. We've been trained for this to fight the darkness. But I do leave space for the new generation of kids that maybe haven't seen the movies. And this will be their movie version for them. And then also, you know, there's a good chance that a lot of these kids haven't seen the movies. and hopefully they haven't because that would be very like the choices that each of the actors made were so what I love about British actors like they just take characters and make them so charactery without
Starting point is 01:03:32 becoming like caricaturi like that makes sense like it's so grounded but out of this world and I would have a impossible time if I saw like a Hermione and then was like how do I make that different. Right. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, I think this is, and you were saying earlier, Steph, How you hope Star Wars protects Flynn Gray. I hope WB has things in place to protect these kids as well. Yes. Even though the three kids they've cast have done stuff before, so they've got experience in the business, you just have nothing that prepares you for the overnight fandom that will come with you with once these things get released. And so I hope they have things. in place to protect them because it's super important
Starting point is 01:04:19 to do that with these kids, right? Yeah, they have nothing to do with how the story's made. Nothing. Leave the kids alone. Oh, my God. Will no one think of the children? All right.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Let's move on to one more story and then we'll get into these situations here. What else have we got lined up on the thing? Harry Potter is, oh, X-Men director, Ryan Singer. All right, fine. We'll address this one thing. All right, let's get into that because it is on the rundown. Let's see, where is it? Here we go. So apparently X-Men director Brian Singer has secretly hemmed a new movie that could result in a hotbed of controversy. What a surprise.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Brian Singer's been out of the public eye for the past eight years, but a new report because of accusations of him doing inappropriate stuff with people under age. But a new report is claiming that the disgraced filmmakers in the process of planning a comeback. Back in 2020, we learned that Singer was, quote, quietly plotting a return ahead, pitching a slate of new film set in and around Israel, where he has been living for the past few years. Details were a few and far between at the time, but we now have quite a bit more to go on. According to the variety,
Starting point is 01:05:27 the singer has quietly directed a film starring Academy Award winner John Voight that is described as a, quote, period drama revolving around the relationship between a father and son in Greece in 2023. Israel filmmaker Yereve Horowitz is believed to be involved in the project. Here's an excerpt of the report, quote, a source that has been seen, has seen the film describes it as a really well-made film with award season potential but predicts that it's going to be a huge hotbed of controversy. Due to the subject matter, the source describes the story is set in the Middle East in the late
Starting point is 01:05:55 70s or early 80s at a time when Israel occupied Lebanon and makes Israel look really bad and could be polarizing the source adds. Another source familiar with the project says the story follows an architect looking for redemption. Singer has also said to be working on a self-financed documentary about himself in his quote unquote struggles and the allegations of sexual misdeeds and all of that so this is step if you want to opine on this feel free if you don't want to pine on this we can move on but it was on the rundown what are your thoughts on this i'm confused about i singer is the one who worked on x-man is that the one who worked on x-man yeah x-man okay didn't he have like a newer round of
Starting point is 01:06:35 tweets like a few days ago about all of them um i i yeah, I obviously have very strong opinions about this. So I don't know, it seems like the POV, I don't know what the POV is going to be. I was confused. I was getting clip flop because at one case, I was like, oh, it's going to be like politically charged in the opposite direction. And then one, it was like, no, it's bad, but he's living. I'm confused. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Like it seems like I don't, the idea that artists can't tell stories for fear of like backlash to me, I just think is ridiculous. And the idea that we can't tell certain stories for fear of offense. Like if it's based in actual truth, I don't believe in that. So if it's based in historical truth, I don't really care if it makes people look bad.
Starting point is 01:07:39 bad. Every, every nation or body of people has committed some, most have committed some sort of atrocity. So I don't really shy away from that stuff or get sensitive and soft in that area. But it is like, you have to ask the question, is it going to be propaganda-e? Or is it actually based in good truth that shares a story that's powerful? And then in that case, then it's like, you should have free reigns to tell whatever story you want. Yeah, I mean, creators should be allowed to create. And it's up to the public to decide if they want to patronize that creation. If they want to go see it, if they want to pay money to see it.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Because apparently a distribution for this film is eminence, and so it will happen. And certainly you're seeing a massive pushback in Hollywood and in our society against anyone who's been accused of anything. People are opening doors to bring them back in. I saw Jeremy Piven on the Tony Hinchcliff thing on Netflix the other day I was like oh geez so you're seeing this happen now more and more
Starting point is 01:08:44 everybody who's been accused of anything now is being is being walked back into Hollywood I would not be and it's it's sad that Brian Singer goes in that direction to work with John Void which is just an interesting situation within itself and then they're shooting and that they've shot a film
Starting point is 01:08:59 that is purposely to get some controversy by shooting it at least during that time this is all for attention. This is absolutely all for attention. Maybe singers are Leo as well. I don't know. And so you see it happening in that in that way. So, you know, this is this is what we're going to see. And I've said this a hundred times in the last few years. I don't know if people really believe it. But Hollywood was never as liberal or progressive as people always thought it was. There's always been people who are conservative point of views, people who are willing to take sides on issues that maybe a lot of liberals progress. progressives don't necessarily fall on. And so there's always been opportunity for people like that.
Starting point is 01:09:40 If you're good, you have to be good. And certainly Brian Singer has proven he's a damn good director. And John Void is proven he's a damn good actor in years past. So these are the things you see. So them coming together make a film, not surprised. Will the public respond to it? Will they go see it? I don't know. We're going to find out when it finally gets distribution or if it just goes to streaming, which is what I anticipate is going to happen after it runs for maybe a week or two in the theater. So, but yeah. Yeah, if it's like a good story that really tells history in a way that's accurate. And, and if they do have actual passion and it's not just for, you know, just getting attention,
Starting point is 01:10:22 then I think it's important. I do because a lot of like the mega governments we see today that have all the money are they don't deserve to be on a pedestal where they can't be criticized. That's not free speech and that's not how we progress as a world. So, but if it is like an attention seeking thing, then that's, that's a, that's gross to me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Agreed. Agreed. All right. Well, let's end on a high note. Then we'll get into the questions. Let's talk about this possibility here. I'm throwing this into the mix. Mike Colter is apparently set to return as Luke Cage. But will we see him in Daredebel Born again? these are rumors that are popping up here
Starting point is 01:11:05 that Mike Coulter and Finn Jones confirmed that they were in the Big Apple via their respective social media accounts when the second season of Daredeva Born Again was filming earlier this year leading the speculation that Heroes for Hire might be set to make their MCU debuts in the second season of Daredevil Worn again.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Now Scoopers Daniel Rickton, sorry, Daniel Rickman and My Time to Shine Hello are indicating that yes, Coulter will be in the MCU as Luke Cage will be returning, but we don't know for sure if he will show up in season two of Born Again. This is according tocombook movie.com.
Starting point is 01:11:37 We do know that Kristen Riddle will be back as Jessica Jones, so it only makes sense that the man without fear would enlist more of his fellow defenders for backup after Mayor Wilson Fiss declared martial law with the help of his anti-vigilante task force in the season one finale. Whoever seen that before? Mac Murdoch decided to fight back by assembling a team of his own. The lineup was lacking a bit of muscle with the trio of Jones, Caj and Rand would serve as quite the equalizer, while other characters will ultimately make up
Starting point is 01:12:01 Murdoch's quote-unquote army remains. to be seen, but based on what we've heard, there are going to be more super-powered heroes joining the fray. Here's what Mike Coulter had to say about his potential return as Power Man during interview with Collider early this year. I still have hopes for it. I don't think about it anymore. I think there's always time.
Starting point is 01:12:16 I don't think it's impossible. Anything can happen. So he did post an image of his character on his Instagram stories as well, Steph. So would you want to see Mike Colterback as Luke Cage and, you know, Danny Rand maybe a little less so what are your thoughts on this yeah i uh i don't know if i finished luke cage i remember i really liked him yeah so yeah i would like to see him especially it just also depends on yeah i guess if we're keeping the same uh charlie cox and it's the same age group and that makes sense it just depends like i was going to say like what age they're starting at to give them more range
Starting point is 01:13:00 but we're already in this world so i really did like him at as Luke Cage, I think that it would be cool to pull him in with a different writer or a different world. Because I remember that the show tonally felt so different from Jessica Jones and Daredevil to me that I was like, okay. Like it's not, it wasn't bad. It just, I was like, damn, I really like this actor, but the story wasn't really doing it for me in the same way that Jessica Jones pulled me in. because I think I went from Jessica Jones to Luke Cage. But I like the actor. So I would like to see him.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Did you watch Luke Cage? Yeah, I enjoyed Luke Cage. I thought it was good. I thought the first season when they made that surprise, a twist there, I think seven or eight episodes into the season, I don't think the show benefited from that. But I liked my culture as Luke Cage. Yeah, yeah. I'm a little less sold on Finn Jones as as a PowerFist.
Starting point is 01:14:07 I wasn't, how can I say this? I didn't hate it as much as other people did. And not that I didn't think you, not that I thought it was some fantastic actor. It is that this is comics accurate. It is a white guy. I know a lot of people want to go, let's get an Asian woman in there.
Starting point is 01:14:20 I totally respect that. Let's see if it's, was it Colleen Wu who might be playing it. Great. Get her in there. But like, you've got to be comics. You've got to be, sorry. You've got to be universe accurate.
Starting point is 01:14:29 maybe they bring in Finn for like a cameo and then he hands the mantle over. That's possible just to appease some of the fans. But maybe just maybe the guy has grown as an actor over the last few years. And if under some better writing, some better directing, he delivers a better performance, then there's a bit more excitement around it. So I'm 100% down for Mike Coulter. I'm a little less down for Finn, but we'll see if maybe when he comes back, it's a better reception.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Because also it's been so much time. It's been years since those series staff. And I think people, you know how it is. With time, people kind of lessen their criticism and they open the door. Look how Hayden Christensen's been welcomed back. And so there's just time for all this. So if they make it work with some good writing, some good directing and hopefully some good acting, then yeah, I got no problems with it all.
Starting point is 01:15:16 But Colter, hell yeah. I'm excited to see. Yeah, yeah. I never saw Iron Fist. The only time I saw Iron Fist as a character is I did watch the first season of the Defenders because has it played into, to, well, how am I forgetting this? Daredevil? Daredevil, yeah, to Daredevil.
Starting point is 01:15:36 So I watched it. And so I didn't get him in his own series. I understood some of the criticism, but he didn't bother me in the way that I feel like other people were bothered. Yeah, yeah, agreed. But it's hard to say, like, how I would feel about, yeah, it seems like if you keep, if you keep one, then you'd have to keep the other two. Yeah, yeah, just to make it all work and then you can move on from there.
Starting point is 01:16:03 So we'll see. All right, I think that's all the stories. So let's get into these questions, Steph. We have 20 right now. Hopefully we'll get to 80 before the show is over. We want to beat Chris Carr with 79. But we'll see as we go along here. And there's 650 of you watching us right now.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Thanks so much. But real quick, before we getting the question, Steph, let people know where they can subscribe to your channel and what you got going on here. YouTube.com slash Steph Sabra. I'm dropping videos Tuesday and Thursday. And then I'm going live on Sunday at 5 p.m. So come hang out.
Starting point is 01:16:35 And if like, what are we at? If 30 of you, right, or 50 of you, let's just get up there, drop a $1 question, then we're moving.
Starting point is 01:16:50 So just an idea. I like it. Yeah, exactly. We're moving. Exactly. There you go. just to let you guys know as for me you go as far you can go to my youtube channel youtube.com
Starting point is 01:17:01 slash john roka says we're so close to crossing 40,000 subscribers. We'll love for you all to come aboard and see all the great content for the John Roker channel that is happening. We'll have the hot mic later tonight live at 4 p.m.P.T. Definitely talking to Star Wars news and see if we've got more to talk about there and all the other stuff that's going on in the world DC Marvel and entertainment. All right, Go pal says early support but might be caught up with work. All right, go pal. We appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Thanks for coming on. Boomer Bus says, Would you rather be a one hit wonder Forever Known as your TV character Or do your dream project, for example, right or act right or direct, but it bombs. Go, Steph.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Oh my gosh. I would one hit wonder for my TV character. Because, right? If you do your dream project, is that it or can I do another one too? Because if it's just one thing and my whole legacy is that it bombed, like hell no.
Starting point is 01:17:55 No. It's a tricky question because do I want to be Urkel from Family Matters or do I want to be John McLean from Diehard, right? Or I guess a TV character. So do I want to be Tony Soprano? Do I want to be Tony Soprano? Do I want to be James Gandalfini as Tony Soprano? Clearly I would choose the Gandalfini route over the Urkel route. So but the idea of your dream project, I think if I be successful as one hit wonder for TV character, I would have enough money to make my dream project. So I would say the one hit wonder route is the route that I would go as well. I agree with Steph. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:32 I am two fly cams says Aaron Pierre in Star Wars. He's my favorite up and coming actor next to David Johnson. Much more excited for this movie than Mando. Too many member berries. I don't know what that means. Two manly. I'm so with you on the David Johnson. When I saw him in Alien Romulus, I was bled.
Starting point is 01:18:55 blown away. I was like, who the hell is this? This is, he is crazy. And then I hear that in the new Stephen King adapted movie, he's amazing in that too. So I, I, yeah, I'm so excited for him. I think he's awesome. And then, yeah, Aaron Pierre, that, I mean, Aaron Pierre has the face card that Hollywood love. So that felt like a direct path. Like once he, he like, you know, he looks like an action figure. So it just makes sense that you put him in all these action movies. David Johnson has like that more like indie look.
Starting point is 01:19:38 But I'm like, oh my God, put him in everything. Like I just think he's so amazing. Yeah. A lot of people talking about him possibly is the new Black Panther, David Johnson, which I think would be really interesting if he's playing the Chala's child or if he's playing another version of Black Panther, another universe, that they're going to bring into the main universe through what's going on with the secret wars.
Starting point is 01:20:00 We will see with that. Yeah. Ben Berkowitz says, hello, Stefan Roka. I'm seeing Oasis Sunday. Thanks for recommending Deadly, maybe on your show. John, looking forward to a Liam Noel murder mystery. Yeah, this is something I talked about on my show, The Truth over the weekend.
Starting point is 01:20:17 I went to a book, the first ever, the first ever K PBS, San Diego Book Fair, at the University of California in San Diego. It was such a great experience, walked around the quad, talking to authors. And one of the authors I spoke to was a guy who wrote a murder mystery where the Gallagher brothers solved the mystery during one of their concerts. Like they get involved in all of this stuff
Starting point is 01:20:38 and fascinating stuff. So hopefully- That's cool. Yeah, I thought that was a really fun thing to see those guys coming together. So hopefully you enjoy it, band. Let me know if you had fun with that book. I'll report back to the author who I'm talking to it.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Dane Smith, thank you. Dane appreciate it. Seattle K.O. says, let's go Roken, Steph. The trailer for Bagonia just released, but I think I found my next anticipated film for the fall next to Goodboy. What are your most anticipated movies for the fall? Yeah, Steph. Do you have any on hand right now that you can think of that you're looking forward to in the next four months that we have left of the year? If you can believe that, the next three. Well, people on my channel know that I am, I, like, fell in love with Dean. Slayer when it first came out.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Oh. And I got to the entertainment district arc and then I just like took a pause. And then I've been waiting to show Harry all of all of it. So now we're past the entertainment arc. We are catching up and I cannot wait for the Infinity Castle movie. That comes out. I don't know. That's not fall.
Starting point is 01:21:46 It's technically still summer in September. But I'm, I'm so jazzed about that. what is fall movies there's there was some i was i want to look up a list 20 25 yeah uh the long walk is one i'm looking forward to um the downton abbey film because i'm a hardcore downtown abbey person i hate to admit it to you all one battle after another the pta film looking forward to that one the smash yeah i'm yeah that one for sure yeah yeah did you see running man oh yeah running man's this year and November sometime I think okay that's yeah and then obviously wicked but I don't think that's fall so yeah wicked would be December we November 21st so I think
Starting point is 01:22:31 that still qualifies because Chris because Thanksgiving is around that time and that qualifies as fall so yeah wicked would yeah yeah then yeah definitely that yeah yeah good call um yeah so we'll see with those those films as well looking forward to it and predator badlands which comes out at the beginning of November. Very much looking forward to that one. And the Springsteen movie, which is around my birthday on October. Oh, yeah. Joyous Rovers says, hey, I'll have support for you guys.
Starting point is 01:22:59 May the Force be with you. And you, Joyce? You as well. Thank you. Thank you, Dane, for more support. Dane also says, shout out to Christian for his team building skills and all of his talented co-host, especially you guys.
Starting point is 01:23:11 You all work so well together and fun to watch to listen to much love. Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. Hey, Mr. C.J says off the HBO topic, Steph, tell them why you mad, tell them why you mad. Okay. Joyce also says, hey, hello, which do you think will be bigger at the box office? Starfighter or Mando and Grogoo?
Starting point is 01:23:36 What do you think, Steph? Mando or Grogo or Starfighter, which is going to be bigger? Oh, Mando. Probably. I don't know. That's a good question. I feel like Mando on the first week, but then Starfighter. could get really big over at by the end of it that's a great point yeah yeah like yeah like
Starting point is 01:23:56 mando has the big opening weekend but then the legs will go with starfighter um that's very possible i think the baby yota thing is the yeah right right i think people totally totally you're just going to go because it's at least the people who are casual fans are just like oh okay it's a star war's movie we know these characters let's do that yeah yeah uh hey mrs see Jay says, Steph, what franchise you had the most fun reacting to with Cinepals? Transformers Fast and Furious are Pirates of the Caribbean. Okay. Fast and Furious for sure.
Starting point is 01:24:31 I'm scarred from transport. There's a few reactions that I've made me never, ever, ever want to do reactions again. And I know I'm doing them on Christian channel. I think that you guys are like so much you provide more grace. I there's like I just found this is why I don't look on the internet I found there's entire Reddit thread about how I'm like way too critical and I take the fun out of movies and I was like I will literally head butt you and then throat punch you because I take great offense to anyone ever saying that I am not providing fun like seriously square up because I am fun I am the vibe so
Starting point is 01:25:15 religiously I am a good vibe. And for you to like, like pick a part of when I'm watching a movie, which I always have grace for, but like maybe one thing in the movie I didn't like. And then they put an entire Reddit thread about how like I ruin it because of one thing in the true lies. I've had James Cameron Stan.
Starting point is 01:25:41 True lies, there was a few parts I didn't love. But I actually ended loving the movie. But what can you focus on the two parts I didn't like? And it's like, then you make a thread harshing my image of being the good vibe queen. Honestly, like, knock if you buck on, it's on site. It's on site, you losers. But I'll do it for this channel because I do love you guys. I know.
Starting point is 01:26:03 I'll do it. Well, yeah. Yuck, I had four shots of espresso this morning, if you must know. I love it. I love it. Amazing. Casey Grants says, we need to step rant weekly.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Well, you just got one. So enjoy a second one today. Yep. Two for one, y'all. Hey, Mr. Cedges, didn't forget about you, Roka.
Starting point is 01:26:27 I had the privilege of meeting you at Comic Con last year. Oh, yeah, least favorite to favorite classic Star Trek movies live long and prosper. Thank you. Are you a Treki? Oh, massive.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Yeah, yeah, yeah, big time. Okay. Can you point me into the direction of what I should start with. I've never, I've never foregone this area of the galaxy, but I feel like it's awesome. It is.
Starting point is 01:26:55 It's tough to know where to start. Obviously, because the first thing I would tell you to do is to watch the original series, but it's so campy and it's 1960s, and there are good episodes and there are not so good episodes. So you'd have to decide for yourself.
Starting point is 01:27:08 And then I would say, you've got to do the movies, the original movie, Star Trek with the motion picture and then moving because the thing about motion picture is so great. If you've seen the original series, you have those relationships already built in. So the moments that they have on motion picture have some really great stuff.
Starting point is 01:27:25 But Star Trek 2, Rath of Khan, that's the best Star Trek movie ever made. So if you want to have an example of the greatest of this stuff, you can watch that movie. And then I would recommend the 2009 Star Trek that J.J. Abrams did. So you can see what it's like to have the modernized version of Star Trek compared to the original version of Star Trek. And then you can go through there.
Starting point is 01:27:46 So I would say start with Khan, move to 2009 Star Trek, and then see if that excites you energy-wise. And then you can decide for yourself if you want to jump into the original series and the next generation. But there's a lot. I mean, because you got Deep Space Nine Voyager. There's so much to watch from Star Trek Enterprise,
Starting point is 01:28:03 which was a Scott Bacula-led series. So there's a lot. But I would say Khan, then the 2009 Star Trek. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So at least favorite classic Star Trek movies, probably least favorite is Star Trek 5, then maybe Star Trek 3. Then we go four six, no, four, one, six and two. That's probably my run of those classic Star Trek movies.
Starting point is 01:28:31 That's my ranking there. Mike Joyce and Steph, can we get your best? Hello, Johnny Boy. You don't have to do this. That's all right. That's a Jeff Snyder thing. believe that. Oh, okay. I thought that that was the shining quote,
Starting point is 01:28:44 but I don't know what that is. No, but that's, hey, Johnny. Yeah, there you go. Okay. Stimavon says, Stefan Christian should do a reaction to weapons. Oh, yeah, weapons was excellent. Have you seen weapons yet? No, I haven't seen it yet.
Starting point is 01:28:56 I'm behind. I'm like, that's the one that I, I just haven't gotten to theater. But I'm excited about how excited people were about it. Yeah, yeah, it looks really good. Kate, her, uh, it was really good about the. Kate Ameris says HBO, we use the same look for the Harry Potter show because WV spent billions on theme parks that would be outdated
Starting point is 01:29:16 by new Hogwarts, new costumes. It's an excellent point. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, yeah. Excellent, excellent point, actually. So, yeah, so we'll see what they do with that. Yeah, that's really interesting. I wonder what they'll do.
Starting point is 01:29:30 Are they going to switch, you know, in the rides where they had the holographics or like the video playing? Are they going to switch to the new characters? It's a good point. Would they add new things to it also? Because the land's already bigger than what it was when I was first there. And I know the Orlando one has really expanded. Like you got Diagon Alley.
Starting point is 01:29:51 You've got all kinds of stuff. Right. Yeah, they'll probably wait and to see how it's received at least a few years. Right. Good point. Dawn H says, love Steph's HBO ranch. There you go. You feel me.
Starting point is 01:30:05 I do. You feel me, though. Right. That's okay. Yeah, the people feel me. It's like. Stop this. You don't get another chance.
Starting point is 01:30:16 Unknown. Says Roka. Thoughts on Man, United's lost at Grimsby Town and Liverpool start to the season. Love the start to the season. Question with the defense. And yeah, I watched the highlights of the Grimsky game yesterday. What a shock. What a huge shock.
Starting point is 01:30:28 And I don't think Ruben Emmerin is going to make it out of the international break as the manager of Manchester United. That's my thoughts. Don Hedge, support for all of Steph's rants today. Yeah, there you go. Thank you. Dingus McNally. Hey, Roker and Steph with only four months left of the year. Crazy. Which performance of any do you think are Oscar worthy for the 2026 Oscars?
Starting point is 01:30:49 Ooh. Oh, man, that is tough. Who do you have? Is there any professional? Oh, my gosh, I need you to go first, Roka. You're like way more, way more professional at this. Let me see. Early Oscars predictions.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Let me see what we got here. So it's jog my memory a little bit. Okay. Okay. go ahead go ahead well i just was remembering sinners and an actor that i just feel like i would love to see get love he has like i mean he has like literally decades on career but delroy lindo if he could get like a supporting actor i would be so pumped because he has probably my favorite scene in that movie and yeah i just thought that was really cool but you go and then i'll think of some others
Starting point is 01:31:41 I'm looking at Varieties list and these are movies that haven't even come out. Oh, I hate it. Yeah, Timothy Chalibay and Marty Supreme, Oscar Isaac and Frankenstein, Dwayne Johnson in the smashing machine. Jesus Christ, if the Rock gets nominated for an Oscar after the Black Adams debacle, it would be such a surprise. Wagner Mora for The Secret Agent, who I loved in Dope Thief, and Jesse Plamins for Bagonia, which hasn't even come out yet.
Starting point is 01:32:10 And then on the women's side, it's Jesse Buckley for Hamlet, Rose Byrne for If I Had Legs, I Kick You, Cynthia Reeva for Weak for Good. Renata Rencibe for Sentimental VIII. I have no idea what that is. And Julia Roberts for After the Hunt, which would make Christian Harlov happy. But those would be early predictions right now that people are making. And as I said, these things are not even out yet, these movies. Yeah, it's so tough right now. Oscar season, it's like, man, they really don't like start considering movies until November. It just feels like all movies don't count.
Starting point is 01:32:44 But yeah, I think Sinners is probably one of my biggest for what I think the Oscars will recognize. Because my other favorite movies are Superman and Fantastic Four, which we know they don't care about. K-pop demon hunters. I know because they had the theater run, if they can get that animated slot. Oh, yeah, that would be awesome. I would pick someone from warfare, but they're all so good in warfare. I can't pick one person out. And I think people have slept on Michael B. Jordan as well.
Starting point is 01:33:15 I mean, he played two different characters in sinners. Oh my God. Totally. I think he should, I was going to say that he should definitely be nominated right now from what I've seen. And he did such a great job of just instantly. I think they're two completely separate people. Like the entire time I was watching it, I forgot that it's one actor.
Starting point is 01:33:38 He just did such a great job at that. And Ryan Coogler should be nominated because for so many reasons, so many reasons, it was an exceptionally made film. But he got people to the theater on an original IP and it nailed it. It's like that really matters. Yeah. I think Amy Madigan right now is a shoe in to be nominated for weapons. for Best Supporting Actress. 100% I think she's a shoe in
Starting point is 01:34:09 for that. And she probably will win it. We'll see. For what movie? For weapons? Oh, yeah, yeah, got to see it. Buster Barnes is pretty sure the really big cameo is Lex Luthor.
Starting point is 01:34:22 Yeah, maybe Nicholas Holt popping in there at the end of Peacemaker. That could be possible. Yeah. Zeeby says support for Steph's epic rant. There you go. Thank you. Trackstar says support for Steph's fun vibes.
Starting point is 01:34:36 The audacity. That is the problem with the movie reaction space, though. Really, it's like, we all love movies, but if we have one problem or any criticism on a movie that someone loved, all of a sudden we're like soul-sucking losers who are so critical and hard. But then if I just love a movie, which is 99% of the time and I'm just rocking with it, I'm a chill. Yeah, okay. There's no winning. There's no winning. Even, listen, just peek behind. Kurt, even when I came on today, there were already five people commenting, oh, I'm not going to watch this. Rokas on this. He's going to crap on stuff. And so, you know, every day, it's every day you deal with this being in the space. If you're, if you have any opinions on anything, there is always these people ready to hate on you, ready to hate on what you're trying to do. And it's just so frustrating. It gets, it gets so exhausting after a while. And I can't imagine. People like, you know, Mr. Beast, these people with millions of followers. Right. Right. Right. They're going on social media. My favorite quote that I just tell myself all the times.
Starting point is 01:35:47 Yeah. It's probably my favorite comedy special, Kat Williams. And it goes something like if you have 16 haters by the start of summer, you better have 17 by the end or send your haters my way. Because it's like, then you're winning. You're winning. And I realize it's like we have so many great people. in the chat. So many,
Starting point is 01:36:07 but I, the normal people who are like more baseline and not like psycho, they just aren't as loud. And it's just like the name of the game. And I have to remind myself that with politics and everything. It's like sometimes you're like, is everyone like this? And then you're like,
Starting point is 01:36:23 no, it's just the people who feel the audacity to Twitter fingers into the screen. And that's just like they, they're just louder. Yeah, you know, because I try to be a voice that calls out this the nonsense. And by doing that, you're going to get crap. And you're right. And it's people who want to be heard.
Starting point is 01:36:45 And I think there is, as people have covered on numerous shows and studies, there is this epidemic where people feel really powerless right now in their lives. And especially young men are being twisted to believe these narratives about what's going on in society. And some people push these narratives in order to make money on. these narratives and don't want to take any responsibility for how the things they say are inciting young men and young women i've seen female fans too doing this stuff now more recently than ever uh to push toxic narratives or attack people personally or go after them or stalk them uh
Starting point is 01:37:21 or constantly try to berate them and so you see that going on and it's unfortunate and it's sad because it really corrupts society from the foundation up and it's unfortunate it's nothing wrong with having a different opinion i think step would agree with this difference of a opinion is totally fine. Healthy debate, I think is very important. Condescending, snarky, shitty, toxic, vitriolic stuff, you're doing that for attention.
Starting point is 01:37:45 And that's where it becomes a problem, for sure. All right, anyway, let's move on. Go, pal, who says, when you said Liam and No Gallagher murder mystery, I was expecting one bother to slay the other with or without the jawbone of an ass. Wow, yikes, wow, okay. No, that's not what happens.
Starting point is 01:38:02 Boomerba says every day I think about all the people sacrificed in Andor to beat the oppression, chilling especially with what's happening in our world every day. Yeah, I mean, we're not going to get into it because I'm like to get political on the show. So I have to honor that. I'm on his channel. But yes, I agree with you 100%. Totally. Totally.
Starting point is 01:38:21 And the Emmys can also get it for not nominating any of the lead cast. I am so not over that. Yeah. Oh, 100%. 100%. Yeah, yeah. Nonsense. As a fan of White Lotus,
Starting point is 01:38:36 big fan. And I think that they should have had a lot of nominations. But not all the nominations. Like, what? Yeah. Come on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:45 It's always a bias against any kind of nerd or geek properties. There's always a bias amongst these high, feluding bodies of critics. It's frustrating. Go pal. I remember the first time I tried to stream the last night. the internet said please God know and went out for the rest of the day. Transformers last.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Oh, sorry. I remember last time I tried to stream Transformers the last night. The internet said, the internet said, please God know and went out for the rest of the day. Oh my gosh. I was like you don't have to do this. I forget.
Starting point is 01:39:18 Is that the one with Mark Wahlberg? He's that, Walberg's in two of them. This is the one, last night's the one that has Anthony Hopkins, who is like giving the whole thing. And Stanley Tucci is Merlin at the beginning of the movie. Oh.
Starting point is 01:39:31 Yeah, that one was fun. It was fun. When I thought Stanley Tucci was another character in Transformers, right? Earlier in the series, yeah. Yeah, and then they reused him. And I was like Stanley Tucci is Merlin. It's like, like, I feel like if I was on the improv stage and they're like, that was like a topic. Like Stanley Tucci has Merlin.
Starting point is 01:39:54 But it was like real. Yeah. Go. Oh. But I love it was fun. That was a fun one. I agree. It was fun.
Starting point is 01:40:01 We waited, but it was fun. It was fun. Buster bars is really like Sally Hawkins' performance and bring her back. Oh, yeah, the horror film from earlier this year, but probably won't get a nomination. No, because it's horror. I think she's been overshadowed by Amy Ann Madigan, who is also great. Yeah. Yeah, you know, the weapons is much more of a mainstream accessible horror film, whereas bring her back is much more in the horror niche type thing.
Starting point is 01:40:26 And so I think that's why Amy gets much more consideration right now than Sally Hawkins, with you looking at it reality-wise. But I'm not surprised if Sally delivered a great performance. I haven't seen Bringer back yet. Did you see that one, stuff? No, I haven't,
Starting point is 01:40:39 but I've heard great things about it. Yeah, it's a bummer. I do wish that they would either make a category for horror or just find a way to recognize it in a way that felt fair because it doesn't, it's in the same way with like, I don't think all superhero and sci-fi type movies
Starting point is 01:40:56 should be nominated, but when they're really great, I do think it should be, I don't know. It's like, why do none of the critics align? It's bizarre. Good question.
Starting point is 01:41:08 Johnny Bravo, Steph's saying square up, made my day. Oh, yeah. Right. Yeah, I know. I need to get into kickboxing or something.
Starting point is 01:41:16 I do have a lot of pent-up aggression these days. You do. I do. I love it. I love an angry stuff. Mircham. Yes, sinner,
Starting point is 01:41:28 Superman, the fantastic four are three of my favorites until now yet i have to still watch thunderbolts and step you go girl thanks girl um yeah i need a you need yeah thunderbolts is solid i really liked thunderbolts it was a really good movie yeah it's streaming on disney plus now if people want to catch up on oh yeah highly recommend people watching thunderbolts uh it's so good uh and there's a lot of movies that have dropped streaming that people might have missed in the theaters that are out now so go check your streaming services There's some great stuff there for you all to watch for sure.
Starting point is 01:42:02 All right. Well, that's all the question, step. We should wrap it up there and be it ado unless we get a last. Oh, wait, we've got one more here. Go Pal says, I'm always surprised Wagner Mora doesn't get like his Pablo Escobar from Narcos. Oh, sorry. I'm most surprised Wagner Mora doesn't look like his Pablo Escobar from Narcos anymore. I didn't recognize him at all in Mr. and Mrs. Smith, the show there with Donald Glover.
Starting point is 01:42:24 Yeah. Wagner is the guy in Civil War. if you guys have seen that movie with Kirsten Dunst and Kaylee Spaney. And he's also in the most recent season of Dope Thief with Brian Tyree Henry, which I highly recommend on Apple TV Plus for people to watch. I need to watch that. Yeah. Yeah, he's great.
Starting point is 01:42:46 Yeah, Pablo Escobar, I mean, he had to be like, what, 50 pounds, 100 pounds look bigger. And he still wasn't as big as Pablo Escobar. So it makes that, yeah, he does look totally different. But I think that's like a sign of a great actor. Agreed. Agreed. All right. There we go.
Starting point is 01:43:07 That's the last one. Let's wrap it up there. Thank you all so much for hanging out with us. We appreciate it. Well over 700 of you joining us for most of this conversation. Steph one more time. Where can they people find you and what you got going on? YouTube.com slash Steph Sabra.
Starting point is 01:43:21 I'm on my way now to we're almost, I think, at 3,000. So I'm like, let's push. If everyone here went, then maybe we could get to 3K. So we're moving up. There you go. Get over there, everybody. All right, Steph, thanks so much. Take care.
Starting point is 01:43:37 So it's great to see you, girl. I'll talk to you soon. Yes, thanks, Roka. All right. There we go. That was Steph Sabra, joining me here for this episode, the Christian Harlov show. Very honored to work with Steph again.
Starting point is 01:43:49 It's been a while since me and her did it up. And of course, she didn't disappoint two fantastic Steph rants you all got today. And the square up thing was genius. I love stuff when she gets going on stuff and really appreciate her points of views on the HBO Max stuff. And in all the topics, let us know what you thought about all the topics and what we had to say about them as well down in the comment section. Remember to subscribe to the channel and sign up for the YouTube memberships. Christian has given out a lot of content for you all who become YouTube members. Get a lot of unedited reaction videos and things of that nature.
Starting point is 01:44:22 And I don't know what else he's got going on, but Christian's always thinking of new things to deliver to you all. content wise. So make sure you subscribe and enjoy that kind of stuff as well. As for me, as I said, 4 p.m. PT today on the John Roker channel, the hot mic comes back live. We got so much to talk about now with that Star Wars news that dropped DC News, Marvel News, movie news overall. And we're going to count down our top five summer movies of 2025. So you'll see that today as well on the show at 4 p.m. And I'm going to have lunch with Dan Merle today. So I will be having, I will post some pictures of Dan and I hanging out in San Diego and having some lunch
Starting point is 01:45:00 later on this afternoon. So it's a busy day jumping out of here, jumping into the shower, getting dressed, and then jumping out to go see Dan and then running back to host the show, the hot mic here on the John Roker channel. So thank you all so much. Take care of yourselves. Be well. And we'll talk to you next time with another brand new episode of the Christian Harlov show here on the Christian Harlov channel.

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