The Kristian Harloff Show - Marvel & DC in TROUBLE? What's Really Going On…

Episode Date: August 8, 2025

Superhero fatigue? Or just a temporary slump? On today's episode of The Kristian Harloff Show, Kristian is joined by Winston A. Marshall and Coy Jandreau to dive deep into the state of superhero movie...s and whether the genre is truly in trouble. With recent box office disappointments, shifting audience expectations, and increasing competition in entertainment, what can Marvel Studios and DC Studios do to adapt? We break down a new article exploring how Marvel and DC can address the new box office norm for superhero films: 🔗 What Can Marvel And DC Studios Do To Address The New Box Office Norm For Superhero Movies? Plus, we discuss: Ana de Armas possibly joining the MCU?! A major Marvel role may be on the horizon for the Ballerina star. 🔗 RUMOR: BALLERINA Star Ana de Armas Is Being Eyed For A "Big" Marvel Studios Role The Fantastic Four sequel already in motion?! Matt Shakman might return as director. 🔗 RUMOR: THE FANTASTIC FOUR Sequel Moving Forward With Matt Shakman "Likely" To Return As Director Josh Brolin talks Thanos, Avengers: Doomsday, and why he turned down Lanterns. 🔗 Josh Brolin Talks Possible Thanos Return In AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY And Why He Doesn't Regret Saying No To LANTERNS Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more deep dives, movie news, and pop culture talk — only on The Kristian Harloff Show! #MarvelStudios #DCStudios #SuperheroMovies #AnaDeArmas #FantasticFour #Thanos #MCU #comicbookmovies  SPONSORS:  TRADE COFFEE: Get 50% off 1 month of cold brew with Trade" at https://www.drinktrade.com/KRISTIAN FACTOR: Eat smart at https://www.FactorMeals.com/kristian5... and use code kristian50off to get 50 percent off plus FREE shipping on your first box.   Get delicious, ready-to-eat meals delivered—with Factor.

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Starting point is 00:00:26 Cummins is a registered trademark of Cummins, Inc. Graham and Hemmy are registered trademarks of FCAUS LLC. It looks like a lot of the studios, Marvel, DC, they're trying to look at their plans and see what they can do moving forward. And can they get back on track as far as the interest? Well, the general public, can Marvel and DC do anything new to get the box office moving a little bit more? Do they have to lower prices or lower budgets? Do they have to do other of that stuff?
Starting point is 00:00:55 Do they have to do different kinds of movies? Well, we're going to discuss that for sure. Apparently, Anna DeArmus is being eyed for a big Marvel Studios role. Fantastic Four Sequel is going to move forward with Matt Shackman likely to return as director. Josh Brolin talks about a possible return for Thanos, and I got a little props about the Sadie Sync thing. We'll talk about that with the boys too. So it is capes and cows here today, the Christian Arloff show. Let's get into it, everybody.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Check this out, Winston. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the show here today. It's Christian Arloff show, Capes and Cowles. We've got the whole crew back, everybody. I'm so excited. I'm excited that you guys are back here on this new time, 9 a.m. PST, with myself, Winston, a Marshall, Coy, John Drow.
Starting point is 00:02:09 The crew is back. Is there? I like the fact that, like I said, I reached out to everybody and wanted to make sure because, you know,
Starting point is 00:02:16 initially you guys were, and I give props to all the hosts on this channel to where they have been very kind to maneuver their schedules to my schedule, because I said a little, because we initially were at 1 o'clock Eastern, and I said, hey,
Starting point is 00:02:29 can you guys do two? Because of the new kind of health program that I'm going on, and everybody was great with it. And then now that I know the routines, it's a lot easier for me to go in the mornings. something I kind of always wanted to do. And that way we get a morning show out to the West Coast Peeps. We got a lunchtime show out to the East Coast Peeps.
Starting point is 00:02:47 It gives Winston and Coy a little bit more time to do stuff with their day. And we got ourselves a new time. So right now, Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday will be at 9 a.m. PST. Tuesday currently is at 2 p.m. We will be seeing if that's going to change. I will let you guys know. 2 p.m. PST? No, 2 p.m. E.st.
Starting point is 00:03:10 for for for Tuesday for Tuesday just checking because you just didn't even I was like that is a gap yeah yeah no no this is two hour two hour difference but we um but we'll be going here we have a lot to talk about today are you getting up and working out before six now or after not six for you six for you yeah yeah it's it's six for you for me it's closer to like 845 I um oh right the ahead okay because I got I had to get up at six to work out but I'm going to try to make that life. Well, I like it so much better. Honestly, the gym is less crowded.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I go in the morning and I just throw my headphones on, even though I stupid thing today for summer. I don't know why, but today I go and I go to get my headphones, and I thought I left them in my car. I'm like, oh, no, my headphones in my car. And I open up, I go, someone stole my headphones. I'm like, but no one stole my bag. I love my bag in here.
Starting point is 00:04:04 No one stole anything else. Like, you first thing you do, someone stole it. I'm like, someone stole it. And then I'm like, I asked the gym. I'm like, didn't we turn in these headphones? Like, no, sorry. And then I asked my daughter, you take my headphones out of the car.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I'm like, I'm going to guarantee that when I get back to the office, there is sitting, sitting on the table. Somebody stole them past me at the other. Boom, there it is. Yep. 100%. And I was like, I just didn't remember doing it. Because I went into the city last night and to the podcast agency that were with
Starting point is 00:04:34 they had like this mixer. And I went. and it was really nice. I went to Grand Central. It was like, oh, guys, the weather in the city yesterday was like, it was beautiful. It was just like a nice walk walking through.
Starting point is 00:04:51 And just, it was great. I had a couple, I had like two beers hung out on the rooftop, had a conversation with some really nice peeps. And, yeah, so I woke up this morning, went to the gym, feeling good. And then here we are with our show. So we're ready to rock. How are you guys doing?
Starting point is 00:05:08 Winston, what's going? on as just been a lot of a lot of family stuff right now man so i i've every waking hour is either trying to work or just trying to not think about the crap that we're dealing with so i'm yeah i'm here for i appreciate it uh you know and i appreciate everybody that you know that's been over on my channel and stuff with well wishes and stuff like that it's just it's it's just heavy because we're we're one of said situations is not good and now it's just a time game so you know just
Starting point is 00:05:42 taking a day by day well let's have some fun here today and today's show how about that let's do it all right and we'll do it by saying is the superhero should let's do that let's do that because there's a plan here what can Marvel and DC studios is a comic book
Starting point is 00:06:00 movie uh what is the plan what can they do DC and Marvel to address the new box office norm for these superhero movies Here's the article by Josh Wilding. Superhero movies are no longer the guaranteed $1 billion hit, but what can Marvel and DC do to make superhero fatigue or make sure that it doesn't bring an end to our favorite genre?
Starting point is 00:06:22 We have a few questions. Superheroes are struggling in theaters, and not a single one of their movies will come close to the $1 billion at the worldwide box office in 2025. It's impossible to deny that superhero fatigue is here, and it's now down to Marvel Studios and DC Studios to counter it. It's early days for the DCU while Marvel Studios president Kevin Feigy
Starting point is 00:06:40 has talked candidly about how he intends to address the MCU's recent struggles. Still talks cheap and it's the action that's taken in the coming years that's going to decide the genre's fate. So in this feature, we're sharing our take on what needs to be done by both studios in order to write a ship. Okay, so it's
Starting point is 00:06:56 time to make these movies for less. Guys, how long we've been saying this? Three years. Three, four years? If the majority of these movies are going to end their box office runs in the 400 to 600 million range, then it's vital that they be produced for less money. Whether that's cutting costs in terms of talent or VFX, it's not sustainable for these blockbusters to be costing upwards of 200 million before marketing every time moving forward.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Here, Josh, you're here. There has to be a way for Marvel in D.C. to figure this out, and the latter does appear to have the right idea by casting lesser-known stars. David Cornswett earned $750,000 for Superman while Nicholas Holtz scoring a $2 million payday due to be the bigger name. argue that he wasn't a huge enough star to sell tickets though and james guns 15 million dollar paycheck is questionable to say the least he's got 15 million for that movie that's nuts that's pretty crazy especially if you're already co-ceeo are right it into your damn salary that you
Starting point is 00:07:52 already getting bro we get extra points on the movie that's interesting um we'll pretend a coy's not in the show for this part no studio is looking to simply break even on a pricey movie so something's got to give for events sell everything else and not some If the past few years have taught us anything is that audiences now expect superhero movies to be events. Deadpool and Wolverine was one because it brought together two of Marvel's most iconic characters, whereas the Marvel's Captain America, Brave New World, Thunderbolts were streaming up, we're streaming follow-ups and regardless of that, never felt like game-changing impactful stories. Fantastic Four First Steps hasn't broken box office records,
Starting point is 00:08:30 but it's soared higher than those movies because the reintroduction of this team felt like a much bigger deal than other. recent releases. Once a pot of time, Marvel Studios took risk on the likes of Ant-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy. However, those movies were surrounding by safe bets like Captain America, Winter Soldier and Avengers Age of Ultron, relying in those marking names. It's a must moving forward. We wish DCs all the best for Supergirl Clayface. So, three, no more streaming. Well, this is going to be interesting because I don't know if I agree with cold turkey, but let's see. The COVID-19 pandemic had a long-lasting, hugely negative impact on the theatrical landscape. Don't believe us.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Endgame made shy of 630 million in China in 2019, where Superman and Fats in a Statistic 4 haven't even reached 20 million combined. That's pretty crazy. That's pretty crazy. Then they're streaming, whether it's the shortened theatrical window or Marvel Studios being forced into producing a seemingly waves of TV shows streaming platforms like Disney Plus of condition moviegoers to just wait to watch movies at home while those series devolved at the MCU to a point where it's devalued, sorry, the MCU to a point that they're simply no longer feels special. Wanda Vision, Falcon, and the Winter Soldier felt like must-t-TV must-see TV in 2021, but as time passed, these shows have lost their luster, and now come and go with little fanfare or impact. Marvel Studios is reducing its streaming output moving forward, where DC Studios runs the risk of repeating past mistakes with the likes of Peacemaker, Season 2 and Lanterns to undo the damage. The way to watch these movies at home needs to be significantly longer, and streaming shows, well, one a year might be too many. Better marketing, fewer leaks. Well, how are you going to be to be? beat the fewer leaks. That's impossible. Better marketing? Let's see what their fix is here. The leaks is impossible to hold. The importance of test screenings is debatable, but in recent years, they led to a surge in spoilers leaking online. We're not just talking about a couple of minor surprises either. It's become commonplace for full plot leaks to do rounds more ahead of a new movie release. If fans have read every plot beat that soon, then they're less inclined to go back for repeat viewings. Piracy is also an issue with full clips and cameras all over.
Starting point is 00:10:36 over social media, sometimes days before movies he released in the U.S. Early fan screenings are another problem because rather than creating buzz, they give people a chance to learn what to expect in weeks in advance. Honestly, marketing campaigns in general need an overhaul because how is hanging Superman above the shard in London or plastering James Guns face all over Love Island, UK, helping to sell tickets. The same could be said for the cringeworthy influencer interviews. Here, here.
Starting point is 00:11:02 That's seeing an actor like Pedro Vascal asked less about his process and more about the internet calling him daddy. Here, here, Josh Wilding, recent trailers have been lacking with the Marvel is a good example of that. I really am impressed with Josh Wilding's article here. 94% of it, I agree with. Less is more. A site called Comicbookmovie.com probably shouldn't be calling for fewer superhero movies and TV shows every year, but it would benefit the genre greatly in the long run. The day of Marvel and DC releasing three movies a year need to end, and neither studio should be balancing two or three streaming series on top of that is a good idea.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Deadpole Wolverine had a lot going for it. The fact it was the only 2024, only MCU's title that made it more highly anticipated and it gave it that feeling of a special one-off event. Why get excited for Captain America, Brave New World when there's Daredevil, Born Again, Thunderbolts, Iron Heart, Fantastic Four First Steps, Isle of Okina, it'll also look forward to in the following six months. It's too much. Fortunately, Marvel Studios, DC, both look to be taking a less is more approach in the coming year. years. Okay. First of all, excellent article by Josh Wilde. Excellent. I agree with a lot of it. The streaming part of it, we can, I think the majority of it I agree with. The only thing is I think that, and I've been saying this, this could be about Star Wars. This could be about Marvel. I think that what Netflix does well is they use their big budgets and they don't just, of course they make shows, but they also make movies. So if you're going to spend $200 million on a streaming show,
Starting point is 00:12:40 why don't you spend $120 and make a movie and make that movie and get the kind of happy Gilmore numbers or K-pop numbers, if you do like a big movie that is set just for Disney Plus or whatever it might be or for Max, you know, do a straight movie. But the series trying to catch everybody up because a movie tying into the overall lore,
Starting point is 00:13:01 okay, you got to watch that movie and watch it at home, it debuts today, okay. Great, maybe that gets me interested down the line. So I don't think streaming cold turkey is the answer, but I certainly think like trying to have, like watching all of these episodes and being locked into it, it's a lot. And they even said as much. So that's the first part of streaming.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Quay, I know that you're just not a streaming guy in general. You think that it kind of took out the whole experience. So first of what do you think of the article that was said and what do you think about the streaming and just what's like? If we're starting with streaming, I think streaming is the thing that gets us to the Wally world very quickly. I think we're rapidly approaching just being amorphous blobs floating in couches in our little pods. And I think that happens because of apathy. Like I can respect as someone without kids that I can't fathom trying to pay five movie tickets and all those things. But if there's
Starting point is 00:13:50 the option to wait 30 days and watch it at home, why would someone opt to do the stress of five tickets and all the popcorn and soda? Like that is how we're going to lose movie theaters. So I think streaming is detrimental overall. I think that what you just said is the is the opposite though, right? If there's things that are unique to streaming versus rushing theatrical to streaming, right? Like I think We're old by night as a special presentation on Disney Plus is a great opportunity for Disney Plus to have something that is unique to itself and worth that $7, $8, $9 a month at home. But if you're trying to release a $200 million movie that is going to be on streaming in 30 days, why would a family of five attend if they've already paid seven bucks for all five of them
Starting point is 00:14:33 to watch at home and not have to get in the car? So I think streaming is, I think theatrical windows are more of the thing that we need to look at than one or the other. Like, I don't think it's as binary. I also think there's an element of the comfort of home. Like people have these big TVs and surround sounds and all that stuff. Movie theaters need to be special again. We need to make it so people aren't talking in the theater. We need to make it so people aren't on their phones, which will help with the privacy element. We need to make it. So if, if, there's this giant employment problem, they aren't employing people to rip tickets anymore because tickets are digital. They aren't employing as many people to sell tickets because people
Starting point is 00:15:08 buy them online. If we want jobs at the movie theater, have those people walk through the movie theaters and stop people from talking. Like, we need to have ushers that are actually in the theater going like, hey, shut up. Like that is a way to pay someone and also solve a problem. And they do it at the press screenings. If you have your phone or anything, too, there's people that go up and down the 100% and that's a job. We need to create jobs. Now, I know that's also a cost for the theater.
Starting point is 00:15:31 So that needs to be something that comes out of that percent is that the movie theater gets for these movies. That comes out of the concession. Like, we need to recalibrate what the dollar cost averaging is. I think the problem with the movie theater system is what they keep doing is adding commercials, adding cost,
Starting point is 00:15:47 adding. And that's not what's going to push people into the theater. It's what's pushing people out of the theater. So I think we need a new system like when AMC, A list started, that gave us, oh my God, three movies, now four, for a certain price point. We need to figure out what the equivalent of that is in these other systems. And I know that's work and effort and time, but I think that's what needs change first. The etiquette point is very, very well taken because I mentioned I went to that event last
Starting point is 00:16:15 night. And I was talking to one of another podcast where they run a very successful kind of true crime thing, but they also, like movies and the woman I was speaking to goes, we don't go to the movies as much and more because we got a really good system at home we they come the movies come out fast and we don't we just don't the people people in the theaters don't really behave and we're older now we don't we don't we don't want to deal with that and it is absolutely one of the men sarah i keep saying this it was like i took him to the garden of eden when i took him to a press screen because he was like he couldn't believe it he couldn't
Starting point is 00:16:48 believe he's like people aren't talking on their phones i mean they're not showing their phones they're not being loud, they're not putting their feet. People are behaved? What is this magical place? And that's the norm now. It's crazy. I miss them dearly. I miss them so much.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Since, you know, I only go to a couple nowadays. But to that point, I mean, Koi picked the, or maybe I guess you assigned it to them, the best of all the arguments, the streaming thing destroyed movie theaters. the idea that legitimately the Jurassic World is already on stream. That's insane. Wait, real quick with that one, and I want you to make your point, but real quick, the thing, Jurassic World is a hard one to make.
Starting point is 00:17:35 It's the only one that's going to cross like almost $800 million. No, I understand that. And they literally, but the way that it was going, they shot themselves in the foot because that movie probably could have cleared a billion the way it was rolling. So like, it still is a problem. in that you have literally trained people to say, I don't need to go to the movie theater.
Starting point is 00:17:58 That is the problem. The idea that you would ever make a window smaller than what used to be DVDs and stuff like that of waiting months. So it's like, look, you either have made this event or you're just going to have to legitimately watch it on the replay way later. By getting rid of that, you're not going to get people to go back. And I understand the pandemic was a, unique time, but the same way that you go out of whatever said protocols when there's an
Starting point is 00:18:27 emergency, where there's a fire, where there's any sort of thing, it's the same thing. They should have had a protocol to get back out of this, but I honestly think greed got in the way of them going, no, man, like, and then we're going to put all this stuff on there and we're going going to take all the cables, you know, money. We go eat their lunch. And then here we are. I think the second most important one does go back to the budgets. We've preached this time and time again.
Starting point is 00:18:48 look, I, James Gunn seems like an absolutely fantastic person. I don't blame him for taking his back end points. At the same time, I'm like, bro, you're going to get backhand points on every single DCU movie coming out. So like, I don't know, 15 mil. A really weird comment in there says that these movies make money outside of box office. Yeah, of course they do. I don't get the obsession with box office because people aren't going to the movies as much and the whole article was about potentially making
Starting point is 00:19:20 why they're not making a billion. One said that they were making huge losses. These things are just not back into that whole thing. How these movies made money. They didn't make the kind of... Anyway, so yes, the thing is they still, when you spend $200 million on a movie, you want it to make more than just a little bit more,
Starting point is 00:19:47 or even if the merchandise are those things, you want it to be able to hit that, You're trying to aim to that place that was the sweet spot. And you also get to a place where D.C. is happy because D.C. They have enough in the chamber to say, let's keep going forward. We have the strategy now, and now we can look at the numbers. And if we put the money, it made sense to put the money into Superman, because that's it.
Starting point is 00:20:14 It's the launching pad. And now you've got to try to look at these other movies that aren't performing as well as they used to and why is that and you put together an entire plan of why that is and that's what dc is going to be doing why comic book movie also said it's like you you thunderbolts it did not make money even outside with and i just watched it's a great movie fantastic four was a disappointment in regards to what they were looking at to accomplish and lead to and now they're scattered it has nothing as far as it's not an obsession it's a matter of looking when you look at the numbers You have to say it is telling you about the business as a whole.
Starting point is 00:20:54 So don't be, don't be silly fart. I just, the easiest example that most people tend to agree with is that the fast movies are, are certainly fun, but they're not good movie. They're just like, man,
Starting point is 00:21:07 that's crazy. Right. And so people keep asking, how do these movies keep getting made? Because they keep pushing a billion dollars pretty much every time they go out. The same thing with the Jurassic World films. We all. universally agreed that the one before rebirth was
Starting point is 00:21:22 due to water. And yet somehow we got another little baby reboot here with Scarlett Johansson because it makes money. So the question of why does box office matter? Because literally it's a business and they go that made money, shit, do it again. That made it do it again. That's why it matters. It's where we're at.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Yeah, Coy, I've gotten that though too. Why is he so focused on the box office? That's all the show is about now with box office. It's like, yes, because we're in a place right now. we're not in 2015. We're like, oh, we're so excited about all the stuff that's coming out and and this could be this. We talk about those things.
Starting point is 00:21:55 We'll talk about it with Spider-Man and other things, too. But the problem is where we are, we're not in that sweet spot in 2015. It didn't matter. He's like, oh, okay, numbers, they did real good. We're seeing more of these. Great, you don't focus in on it because it's not telling you anything. What it was telling you back in 2015 is everybody was going to see them. So they're making more and more and more and more.
Starting point is 00:22:11 It's like, that part of it. We don't need to talk about that. Let's talk about, hey, who do you think the villain's going to be? And why is that? It was more fun. it was more interesting to talk about those things because you were going to see it, and it all made sense, as opposed to getting excited. We don't even know if Thunderbolts was potentially going to have a sequel.
Starting point is 00:22:26 And we have a story. Shackman might return now for Fantastic Four. What would have been a guarantee if the box office would have been huge? It would have been like, he comes back for the sequel. I'd locked him up already for it. That's why. And so, oh, why does it still upset for the box office? I thought I talked about.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Could you know the box office show. Stick it up your assholes. I forgot early morning Christian is New Yorker Christian. I'm just, I'm just tired of it. You, you mellow out midday. He's on East Coast energy. It's a show. It's a show about, you know, the numbers about the business in general.
Starting point is 00:22:59 And you lock down as far as production. I'm tired of it. I remember the day used to just talk about, you know, what was happening in speculation and all that stuff. And guess what happened? You fucking bitch about the speculation. Why you're speculating. Just go along with it. Stick it off your asshole.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Go ahead, point. I was going to say. And I agree, because I get the same comments when I cover this stuff, is without us discussing it, there's no room to navigate how to fix it. There's no room to navigate the solutions. And then it will go the way of the Western. Like, if we don't get ahead of it and we just go, everything's fine. I think the big problem is until something's gone, people don't notice the problems. Like until the thing is missing and you're like, I miss that era. Like all of the current nostalgia wave for the 90s, there were lots of problems in the 90s. But we've got this thing of like, why did that go away? Because we didn't look at how.
Starting point is 00:23:47 how to fix the things we wanted to keep. So if we do a show called capes and cowls, we probably want to keep comic book stuff. Exactly. We're looking at the solution. 100 isn't a past. The only thing, the only thing that made me laugh even more about it
Starting point is 00:24:02 is not seeing this here, it's like seeing people in the audience, in the chat talking about why you're talking about box office. It's seeing like industry professionals tweeting out, why is everybody so obsessed about the box office? Now I'm like, are you dumb? What are we doing? Like literally.
Starting point is 00:24:23 It's the shape of the business as where, again, Josh Rodling brings up in that article, rightfully so, which is another part we should go into is that we've been saying it. The budgets are too high in these movies, because what it allows to do as far as the creative side of all of this, too, is what's great in the mention of getting a David Cornswet for $750,000,000. You're creating a star now,
Starting point is 00:24:43 and it allows us to not just keep, rehashing the same person and going, oh, you know what? Let's just put so-and-so in. Let's spend $15 million in the, they'll get it in there. And you don't build anybody and you're just spending that big $15 million. Now, eventually, David Cornswept will not be $750,000 because you, that's just how that's how the business goes. As I said with Nicholas Holt, he's two million because of his past experience. I think, and here we'll do this. James Gunn should not have $15 million for a salary.
Starting point is 00:25:12 I think it's ridiculous. I think it's absolutely ridiculous. But you give them points, whatever else may be, whatever his deal is. But if you're, if, well, I get a directing thing too, no. There's got to be a space where I, again, I love James Gunn. You don't go away still? I'm listening.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Okay. I love James Gunn. As South Park put it, you sometimes you got to get your nut. Like, I get it. But like just at the same time, if you know that because you're the head honcho, you're already going to get money from every different angle. That's just, in my opinion,
Starting point is 00:25:52 the smart business decision to be like, you know what, I'm going to take a baby bit less on this, both A, so it kind of boosts our box office numbers and then what that compares to for our budget, you know, just in general,
Starting point is 00:26:03 you're going to get your money, my guy. So, like, that's the only thing that I would say. Shifting. as far as budgets in general going down with Marvel and spending the $200 million,
Starting point is 00:26:17 you got to bring it down because I think it's what, let's shift away from comic book movies for a second. I've talked about this with, well, that's good Jurassic World or Terminator. How exciting would it be to see a, you know, the movie The Creator? Like, I'm, the one, yeah, the one that just came out and it was like 91.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Washington. Yeah, John David Washington. And it was. Yes, yes, yes. That movie looked like $200 million was made for 90, taking a movie like a Terminator or a Jurassic World and going back to basics and making it look like a $60 million, like 824 film or something and go with that premise. Pray. But pray was, pray was a streaming movie. But that's kind of what you were talking about with like, but now he's doing Badlands, which is theatrical. And it's going to be like, they're doing it sometimes alien earth looks so good right because it looks like samulus look at romulus right like that's like that kind of stuff and it's like i get it like they they've got it that's and that is why we talk about that because it brings it because like
Starting point is 00:27:22 for me i would much rather oh another movie so here's a perfect example of where we are with comic book movies in general so my buddy brett ernst who was the guy who he he was essentially my stand-up comedy big brother he was he was uncle louie and cobra guy um So he was the whole reason that I got a chance to showcase at the comedy store and become a regular. Which. Repenance. Oh, there's. Ha.
Starting point is 00:27:51 So he was the one he said, he called me. He said, look, I got a regulars have a recommendation. You want to showcase for Mitzie. I'll put your name and you got to, but you got to show up. And I was, of course, I'm going to show up. And I did. It was because without breederance, I would have gotten into the comedy story. I say it all the time.
Starting point is 00:28:06 And he took me, him and Sebastian went on the road and did shows together and casinos and stuff. And he was great. He was always really, he was always there for me to stand up comedy and other things. So he randomly called me last night. I haven't spoken to him a little bit, but he called me last night. And he goes, hey, out of these three movies, what should I see? Should I see Superman? Should I see Fantastic Four?
Starting point is 00:28:28 Or should I see weapons? I told him to go see weapons. out of the three of those movies, that is the best quality movie, in my opinion, the most engaged I was out of the three films, and it was probably significantly less to make. Significantly. And it was the most engaged out of the three.
Starting point is 00:28:47 And I liked all three movies, but that was the one I said, I got to tell you, you really want to be like locked into a film. It's that one. That's the movie to me that it doesn't seem like the same thing. And imagine if they made it. And I think they're going to try to do that with Clayface.
Starting point is 00:29:00 like that's what I love they're going to that I want to see a $30 million clay face horror movie sure why not that's smart so I hope that they kind of do that those are the three movies in general but I don't know coy I said a lot what do you say so I also think there's something to this article that we're not zooming back out enough like we're very focused on like the comic bookie stuff but I think movies are in a bad spot not this one but like I think if you look at the box office of this year four of the top 10 domestic are superhero films. Four of the top 11 worldwide are superhero films. So if we're saying superhero films are struggling, I think
Starting point is 00:29:38 we also need to be looking at the theatrical world struggling. Like, one movie has made a billion dollars this year. I don't think it's fair to keep thinking billion dollars is normal or average. It's not post-pendemic. Two. Two. Two. Oh, yeah. Well, you know.
Starting point is 00:29:53 If you just mean just like American movies? Yeah, sorry. I was speaking of yeah, domestically, we've had one. to worldwide. But either way, those are not a bounty. Those are not a many. It is not a 2015 where we've got billions being like, is the next one, is the next one. Minecraft got close. It was 50,000 shy, so it's flowers. But I don't think we should look at the numbers as compared to superhero movies to each other. We need to look at movies like by the year, like 2025 movies compared to 2025 movies or maybe 2024, but we need to stop doing this like, hey, back in 2017,
Starting point is 00:30:30 2018, 2019, the box office is different now. So the box office money needs to adjust in pre-production and production. Our expectations need to adjust. I had the same problem. I thought July was going to be a $3 billion month. I said it very publicly. I thought all three, Fantastic Four, Jurassic and Superman would clear a billion. I was thinking the same way. I think we need to readjust expectations until the theater industry comes back. Or we need to know. not see everything is a failure because we need to adjust the budget so everything isn't a failure if it doesn't clear 500 million. Yeah, I think the other thing we're not taking into consideration is the fact of like just the state of the world's economy. I think to I think back
Starting point is 00:31:07 out a little bit and realizing that everybody is holding onto their dollars a little bit more. And and on top of that, everything is going up in price. I think the other thing that we're not taking into consideration is that movies as well have continuously gotten more expensive. Because the dollars worth nothing and no one has any dollars. So that's, So that's why your friend calls. That's literally why your friend calls because you'll still have that, what, that fare to even get into the city on top of that. I don't know if he's in New York or whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:34 No, I think, I don't know where he is. He's in L.A., but I think that you, but nonetheless, yeah, he wants to find out out of those three. It's like I literally can spend $25 extra right now one time. What do I do? Yeah, I'm going to spend my money on something. What's worth it? And that I don't feel like, oh, why did I spend my money on that movie for sure?
Starting point is 00:31:53 And it is a matter of, I don't know, I think that where comic book movies are, we should see, I think the other thing that really, what's special about these movies now, right? Like, what's really special about them? Like, what I said to him when I was telling him was, look, here's the things that I feel, I said, Superman does feel like it's like, it feels like a Saturday morning cartoon. It feels like it's ripped out of those kind of old school comics. and like it's the first Superman that really feels like that. Like there's aliens everywhere. There's things that he's fighting. There's monsters and things that he's fighting. It's if you are down for that and it's a fun movie, then you should see it. And that's how I think Superman is different. Is it radically different?
Starting point is 00:32:42 Like, oh, my God, you've got to see this. I don't feel that way. And the same thing about Fantastic War. I love Fantastic War. And I loved how it looked. The thing I felt that was different was visually. I thought there was some stuff that made it seem like it wasn't even in the comic book realm it felt like it was in like you know a science fiction movie more so and i love that but that
Starting point is 00:32:58 doesn't necessarily mean that's a selling point that's why i recommended weapons weapons is different it's it the characters where i was locked into and that's the kind of stuff i think that marvel and dc needs you got to yeah i mean especially because like even though we've talked about box office stuff a little bit but but if you look at the movies that got the most buzz or hype it feels like this year. F1, really people were very shocked by that and what that did, sinners and the run that went on, everybody talking about weapons. It's part genre, but it's also those stories are either F1, another idea of kind of
Starting point is 00:33:41 looking at the retro side of things and giving you another 80s movie type scenario. Sinners that's something completely new and then I can't speak to weapons. But CINERD and Weapons Coit, to me, do the same thing. They really focus in on the story, the characters, inside of the genre itself. It doesn't push the genre. I think that both Fantastic Four and Superman push the comic book genre first. And then, oh, yeah, look at the characters that we have inside of this. This is the big thing.
Starting point is 00:34:09 And when you're doing a big summer blockbuster movie, it's spectacle, spectacle, spectacle, and people want to lock in the characters. They really want to be involved in the story. And it's the same thing I would say about the Mandalorian, right? The Mandalorian was something that by season three, it was like, oh, this monster of the week, and it's 30-minute episodes, and you don't get a chance to learn any of the characters. You don't care.
Starting point is 00:34:30 It's just fluff. And that's why, I don't know, Corey, you were going to say before. We were going to say, yeah, I was just going to say, I think what they're adjusting to is more in this vein. I think, obviously we're not talking about the Spider-Man's and the Avengers of it all, but I think doing a Punisher special presentation, a werewolf special presentation, These are focusing on the characters in the genre, and those are, I think what we, I'm agreeing with you, I think this what we need to focus on because I think Vanessa Kirby of the Fantastic Four was the character that I felt got a character study. I felt I really, really understood who Superman was by the end of that film in a way that I hadn't felt theatrically before. And so there are elements of that, but if it's in a $200 million thing, you're trying to appeal to too much to get that true anchor in. But that's what you need to do with those kind of movies. That's a different type of movie than a weapons than a sinners. The beautiful thing about sinners is it felt like a blockbuster,
Starting point is 00:35:22 but it was also a character study. I think that has Clayface written all over it. I think that has the Batman 2 written all over it. I think if you are making a new studio or rebooting your studio post-seer-aure-aurs, you need to look at varying your budgets, varying your tones, varying, because we've gotten the audience used to the language of comic book movies now. Both Fantastic Four and Superman were able to start like they were in a graphic novel Ardian way. What we need to do now is hey, we've proven we can do this. We need more Logans. We need more of the crows.
Starting point is 00:35:51 We need more things that are movies that are in comic books, as well as big things like FF and that Superman. Logan was interesting. It was different, right? You know, someone brought up in the comments section is a great example. Godzilla won. Oh, God. I didn't care about that movie at all.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Like another Godzilla movie? Okay, Godzilla's sure it's going to be the same thing. Because I was so used to the same fluff that you get with Godzilla versus Kong, those types of things and they're fun to watch and you shove popcorn in your face and you forget about it. There's like a real story with characters and you're locked into it going, whoa, this movie's fantastic, but you care so much. It was the first time I'm usually, I don't show the humans.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Show me more of the humans. I'm actually invested. It makes sense. And they made it for $1.85. Right. It's crazy. Right. They had a little bit of different rules and stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:41 But yes, it's still what they were able to do with that budget and, general. Like that's the kind of stuff Marvel needs to do. I would argue what's tricky is, I would argue Thunderbolts, Fantastic for Superman are three of the best examples of what we're describing. And still, it wasn't the hits they needed to be. I think personally, the character studies in those three films were exceptional. But I think that the audiences will wait for streaming for a big movie now because they're like, it'll be out soon. I think Sinners was legs because everyone was like, oh, it's something new and different. I have to see it right away. I think weapons is a similar conversation of like, I don't want to get ruined for me. I don't think anyone was worried
Starting point is 00:37:21 about what the end of Fantastic Four was going to make. Right. Right. Yeah. All good points. Look, there's so much, so much there. We're probably talking about this for two hours total. So what said you guys? Put your thoughts in there. Where is the state of comic book movies right now? What do they need to do? Is it different topics? Is it making it, you know, the genre different. Is it getting new directors who can give you a different vision? Is it budgets? What is it? Or is it fine as it is.
Starting point is 00:37:49 One guy thinks they're making profit hand over fist still because it's not just about the box office. Apparently they got signs on the corners and people are just throwing money in the bank. And they made a lot of money besides just the box office. What do you guys think? Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. All right. Before we get to some other topics and we got more.
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Starting point is 00:38:39 It doesn't matter if it's summer travel, weddings, weekends. my routine, I've talked about it. It's all over the place. But my cold brew ritual, that is the only thing that I won't skip. Thanks to trade, they have the cold brew beans. They're smooth. They're easy to prep where they're brewing ahead for the week, filling my tumbler to take on the road. I can skip deliveries when I'm away. Trade is the number one coffee destination for the U.S., both hot and cold coffee drinkers. They've sourced the best beans from the top roasters around the U.S. And now they have a special cold brew collection. I mean, come on. Plus, they've teamed up with 15 roasters to create a special cold brew bean collection that ensures your cold brew at home tastes
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Starting point is 00:42:08 I think both factor and trade is. the bomb so i hope you guys check it out okay so you get over there uh so let's get to this one this is an interesting one let's see about sadie synx role in spider man brain a day has finally been revealed what hack is saying what here so much has been said about say he's stranger thing's rumored role in spider man's brand new day and one scooper who's this hack claims to have learned who she will play you can find out more details after the jump Sadie Sinks Mystery Spider-Man Brand New Day role continues to be a hotly debated topic online.
Starting point is 00:42:44 There were no closer to knowing for sure who she is when she makes her review. Gene Gray, Mayday Parker and Black Cat, a few of the names. But Christian Harlow is reporting that he had a pretty good guarantee. I think we'll play Gwen Stacy and Spider-Man Brand-new Day. Certainly good fit for Gwen.
Starting point is 00:43:03 And with Peter Parker likely heading to college, it makes sense to add a character in the mix who defined those years. for him in the common book. If Sink is playing Gwen, we can see her become Spidey's new interest or perhaps suit up as a superhero self. In related news, Daniel Rickman is reporting that there are more villains in Spider-Man brand new day than those previously reported. The greatest love of young Peter's life made her debut in 2007, Spider-Man 3, where she was
Starting point is 00:43:24 played by Bryce Dallas Howard, and her Stone took over in The Amazing Spider-Man, returned in The Amazing Spider-Man 2. In the sequel, Gwen was killed by Harry Osborne after he became the Green Goblin. The plan was for her to rise from the dead and Amazing Spider-Man 3, one of many weird creative decisions the three cool looked set to me head of Sinicature 6 another involved Norman Osborne's decapitated head and his own miraculous resurrection yada yada yada okay so this came about randomly for me I was if I would have I walked into this one particular room and I would have told you that Sadie Sink was playing either Gene Gray or somebody I for what the other character was that they'd rumored and I was like oh
Starting point is 00:44:07 that's probably playing and I was having a lot of it's probably playing and I was having a conversation with somebody who is, uh, is legit. Say that. And as a person, we're, I don't know how Sadie Singh came up and he's like, nah, she went Stacy. I was like, wait, what? Definitely. Yeah. Really? You're, you're sure? Pretty sure. And I'm like, oh, okay. Uh, I'm going to talk about that tomorrow. and look, if it turns out that she's not, then the person was wrong. And then I said it, but I just,
Starting point is 00:44:43 I wouldn't have said it if I didn't, in the way that this particular person said it, it was so matter of fact, like, yeah, I was like, oh, it's Gwen Stacy? Yeah. I'm like, really? You're pretty sure? Pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:44:56 And I'm like, oh. And so that, that to me is interesting. So if it is, I mean, and Coy, I don't know, are you guys hearing anything else? Have you heard anything that maybe debunks that or confirms that? Have you heard anything, Coy? You know, I haven't heard anything story-wise. I think these two rumors are strong for what I think the movie's going to be, right? Like, I think Gene Gray and Gwen Stacey are the two most narrative-based contenders
Starting point is 00:45:26 because if you've got brand new day being kind of a soft reboot of like Spider-Man being on his own and letting it be his own story and not being time to the MCU, you're going to need, you know, more of the OG characters like your Gwen Stacy or Harry Osborne and those elements coming in and that lore. So I could easily see that making sense for the narrative. And then on the other side, I think post-Secrette War's Marvel needs to aggressively focus on the X-Men. We've talked about how much that's a guarantee. We've talked about how important that is. And I think it'd be much smarter for the MCU to have some characters already in play
Starting point is 00:45:58 than try to introduce them all in their own movie. Like we got Captain America, Thor, all those things before Avengers. Likewise, it'd be great to see Gene Gray, Cyclops, Storm, and characters before X-Men. So I could see it be kind of a fun inversion, whereas usually Spider-Man is tethered to an MCU character. What if Hulk is only in a couple scenes? And instead, we get to launch an MCU character in a known hit like Spider-Man. So narratively, when Stacey works for the brand new day element for Spider-Man in college, narratively, Gene Gray works for the future of the MCU.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Interested to see either one. Sadie Sink is so talented. I'd love to see her for something for 10 years. Yeah, you know, it's funny. I think that I brought up because I think you guys had mentioned Firestar like a thousand times. Oh, that came up like a few months ago and I was like, what? Someone brought that up. And I even said it, because that's one I thought was going to push more and more and
Starting point is 00:46:44 I think I said to this person, I was like, I seek not Firestar and they went like this. Also, like it's not the 70s. I don't know what audience would be like, yeah, Sadie Singh, Firestar right now. I mean, I think that's probably just more pushing from the element. I mean, Sadie being a natural redhead and that's not that you can't change her hair color, Firestar just being also a redhead. I think that's where people were going. She's Volvo Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:47:11 She's got red hair. Well, we already kind of have a Mary Jane technically. So Firestar, yeah. Like that makes sense. Yeah. I mean, look, like I said, I'll be the first to like, If it turns out that she is Firestar or Gene Gray, I'm going to look in the camera and go, a person was wrong.
Starting point is 00:47:29 I don't go out looking for scoops. I'm sitting around going, you know, okay, do I, is it, was it credible enough for me to talk about it on the show or is it something? I think it was, I'm like, when this person said it, my ears went, what? Because this person is legit. What I love is that we've got Gwen Stacy in contention now. We've got Gene Gray in contention now. We've got Firestar.
Starting point is 00:47:48 We heard rumors of Mayday Parker. We heard rumors of another Mary Jane becoming jackpot. We've heard all sorts of, I love that Sony's tact for marketing is like, let's leak lots of fake stuff and show them a ton. Like, I think the age of being able to film all on a sound lot is going away. And I think that's probably good because we feel the art of this. We feel the volume.
Starting point is 00:48:11 We feel the lack of actual practical sets. And I think if you're going to film outside, instead of going like, no cameras, go, hey we're starting our marketing a year early spider man's going to shake some hands tom holland's going to be as spider man you're going to feel like spider man's real so how do you compensate for that so we don't know too much you go the other way and go here's a bunch of fake leaks like in the departed and we'll see what gets out well what do you think winson as far as the other rumor of the amount of villains again because that's it's been a problem in the past
Starting point is 00:48:39 with spider man movies way too many villains are they why do they keep falling into this trap it's hard it's hard to say if this ends up similar to what the fantastic four did at the start of the movie i would actually be okay with that but that's got to be it and i also don't want to potential the spider man has such spider man's villains are kind of on par with batman's as far as being iconic and interesting to watch and things like that and unfortunately we've already burned through a lot through bad movies um so I am hoping if they're doing this, they're not going to try and overstuff it because it also doesn't make sense to jump into a sinister six because we haven't really gotten into it. We sort of just did a sinister six by the way, obviously, but like we don't, we don't have the cloud. So I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:49:33 I hope that they are very aware of what they're doing and they're not potentially preemptively shooting themselves in the foot from just putting too much in there. But I think Coy's right at a certain point, if we can't get away from the scoopers, if we can't get away from the leaks, then throw everything. Overwhelmed them. So then it's not, it's not a, hey, we got the thing out that we were really excited about. It's people have no idea what's going on. And that ties into our first story, right? Like, if you can't defeat the leaks, because like, you know, when you read that,
Starting point is 00:50:06 you laughed. Like, I don't know if that's a possibility. Overleak, leak stuff. Like, I loved that Hulk was in the Infinity War trailer and wasn't in the movie, because that meant I got to be surprised by what the movie actually was. Mislead your audience and then let them be surprised in the theater. They're paying $20 to be surprised and have an experience. Give them that the other way if you have to.
Starting point is 00:50:26 I agree. So I asked the audience, this man, are you guys excited for the potential of Sadie Sink playing Gwen Stacey? Do you think it'll happen? Or is my person wrong? She's going to play somebody else? Put your thoughts in there. Let us know as far as the villains and everything else.
Starting point is 00:50:43 two we want to know are we going to do one more story because the guys first of all you guys didn't even tell you what the goal is this week this week is 123 and it is uh kalanowski and roxy yet again who narrowly defeated john roka on on monday so you guys are in contention already with 36 pretty damn good so far so we're going to do yeah so we're going to do this story it'll be a DC story and then we're going to move into the questions. So let's start with, I guess half DC, half Marvel, but it's Josh Brolin and he was talking to Josh Horace. I don't know if it's the same thing, but Josh Boland talks possible Thanos return in Avengers Doomsday and why he doesn't regret saying no two lanterns. Josh Prolin confirms he would be open to reprising the role of
Starting point is 00:51:30 Thanos in Doomsday and confirms he doesn't regret turning down playing the DC use Howl Jordan. Josh Boland first played Thanos in 2014, Guardians of the Galaxy, and later took center stage in Avengers. Infinity War, the Mad Titan was the latter movie's lead in many ways, and while he was beheaded in the opening moments of Avengers, end game, the villain, spoiler, the villain later returned as a variance. Being snapped out of existence by Iron Man was their Thanos story ended, though what if showed us that he still has plenty of errands scattered throughout the multiverse,
Starting point is 00:52:02 will meet King Thanos as part of an upcoming Disneyland rhyme, What about Avengers Doomsday and Avengers Secret Wars? Talking to Josh Harowitz, Josh Burlin, reflected on playing Thanos and referred that he'd happily reprised a role of the Russo Brothers come calling. It's a level absurdity that I enjoy so much. I've said it a million times, but it goes back to Black Box Theater.
Starting point is 00:52:21 When you have no money or pretending that this thing is a gun, if you have enough conviction, people actually start to think it's a gun. That was a level of that in the Avengers. They were afraid it was going to get out so they would give us a phony scene and then give us a real scene. And when we get in there, which to me is hell, I can't prep.
Starting point is 00:52:33 I'm thinking about the lines and all this stuff, but it worked out. that was supposed to be a cameo. When it was first brought to me, I was doing the Everest movie in London, and they brought me this huge Bible, and it was just this little thing, and I'd be in it for like 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:52:45 They changed it, it turned to this whole thing. Deadpool 2, I was like, I was glad it was one experience. The Thanos thing, if they called me in London right now and said, let's do this, I'd be like, I'll be there tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:52:56 I talked to Downey probably four to six times a year. I talked to Russo's probably four to six times a week. I talk to Joe a lot. I love both of them. Sharing his take on what the Russo's, brothers were bringing to the table with Doomsday and Secret Wars, the actor said, of course, we're going to come up with something fun. Who knows? That was 10 years in the building kind of thing, and it was its own book-end deal. I don't know what they're going to do, but I'm sure it will be
Starting point is 00:53:16 interesting. I think they do that very, very well. You may recall that DC Studios wanted Brolin to play Hal Jordan the upcoming Landon's TV series, though he was among a handful of actors ultimately passed in the project before Kyle Chandler was cast. Asked what he regrets most, regrets turning down between that and working with James Cameron on Avatar. He later confirmed that he was up for Stephen Lang's role. Brolin replied, James Cameron. I heard Green Lantern, and I know it's Kyle Chandler and Paul Patton, who I did a pilot with. I'm sure, I'm sure excited to see it.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I can't wait to see it. I love Kyle Chandler. I think he's solid. He's fantastic. Paula Patton, either the actor has gotten confused or the Mission Impossible franchise star has secretly been cast as Carol Ferris. We'll have to wait and see on that front, scenes brolin is far more interested in making an mccu return than joining the DCU it's interesting
Starting point is 00:54:07 that he once again alluded to not enjoying his Deadpool to experience as that surely pours cold water on rumors that he will reunite with ryan reynolds as cable and the actors planned x-force movie um so yeah he was out there promoting weapons to which it was pretty it was pretty fun i we were the press screening we went to in new york him and julia garner showed up to and introduced the movie that was pretty that was awesome um i watched that interview that was really good he's very honest about these things in regards to thanos i think we all think he's going to show up and he should show up i think doom should rip his spine out kill him and do that and but as far as lanterns goes uh i maybe he just didn't like the script but do you the the more important thing winston did he just
Starting point is 00:54:48 let us know that paul patten's in this in this show i guess so i mean paula patten fine as hell so you're gonna put paula patten in or you just gave me another reason to watch i'll tell you that much I already wanted to see the hell out of it. So let's go. That's it. I don't know if there's anything else to say about that. Yeah, what are you think, Coy? I mean, I'd love Paul Pat was in it.
Starting point is 00:55:12 I personally, like Lanterns has, I mean, we've talked about it a lot, but that below the line team of Lindelof King and the Ozark show runner, Chris Mundy. To me, that's really exciting. So I'd be curious, what was the reason Brolin didn't want to do it? Like, is it a script he didn't identify with? Is it a long-term commitment? because he mentioned liking that cable was a one and done. Maybe he didn't want to sign on for five, ten years.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I don't know what they're going to do with Hal long term. So I would be curious to see what a Brolin, how Jordan would look like. I think Josh Brolin is sensational as an actor. I think he's amazing. But I really, I love that he's so transparent about his choices. Like that's my favorite thing about Brolin is he's never making sound bites. He's like, no, I didn't want to do it.
Starting point is 00:55:53 No, I didn't like that experience. Right. So whatever it was, I'm glad that he's like, not for me, not like, well, you know, diplomacy. Yeah, no, I saw him in an interview one time. We talked about how him and Denzel didn't get along on one of these things that he's like, and, and just open about how it happened, that particular thing, not that they don't get along in general, but just how that, it was the, oh, shoot, what was it? Winston just made a choice. No, no, I know. I just saw that it was out of focus. I'm trying to
Starting point is 00:56:19 fix it. I'm very aware. I am aware. I was like, there's no clean way to do this. He doesn't wait for a cut. Doesn't wait for me. You're going to do it. I literally couldn't see it. I couldn't see it. That's why, because I couldn't see it. I needed to be able to see myself. I am aware of what happened.
Starting point is 00:56:39 But look, as far as DC goes, maybe it's just not a thing that he wants to do. He's just like he's Josh Brolin. He's been in this game of 30 years. Like he can pick and choose what he wants to do. I got lucky enough to work with them on a thing. And we talked like monster, like Dukati monsters. We both drove Dukotis at the time. And we talked about motorcycles for six hours.
Starting point is 00:56:56 and that was a more fun, informative conversation about like something that I'm only initially aware of. Okay. What I imagine the dude's life is like, he writes poetry, he writes books, he like does all of his life stuff. I don't think dude wants to commit to something for 10 years if he's not like peak passionate and he's got a kid. So I see a hundred reasons why he might not have wanted to do it, but I love that he's
Starting point is 00:57:17 just telling Josh like, nah. He was so good in, in weapons. And there's like, there's one moment because the movie's not a, it's not a funny movie. But there's one moment in general. His character is doing something. You haven't seen yet, Corey, right? No yet. So there's something that his character is doing. And there's just a line that happens. And the whole theater burst out to laughing. And you're like, it, it is so, I feel like just like he, that was the moment that he had and he came up with. I would love, if I ever had a chance to interview him, that's a question I would ask. I feel like he came up
Starting point is 00:57:54 with that because he's like, that is how I would react. If that happened to me, that is how I would react. And honestly, it was like, if that just happened to me, that is how I would react. So we all felt it in the theater. It's really great. I guess once you guys see it, I'll bring it up.
Starting point is 00:58:11 I meant to ask you, if we're already on that question, you know how I am. How scary is weapons, bro? Like, give me, give me a comp. So what I've been saying, dude, is that this movie to me, and Zach Cretton is becoming like the R-rated Shama on, right?
Starting point is 00:58:29 It's more about like the premise overall that you're like locked into. There's some, there's like violence doesn't get you. It's not violence that gets you. No, I don't think you're going to be that scared, dude. There's some creepy moments and things that happen, but it's not like a terrifying movie. It's more about like a psychological thriller.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Okay. Barbarian is a scarier movie, I think, than this. Okay. This is a more like psychological thrill, like where the hell are these kids what's happening overall there's some like warped shit going on and it's bad shit crazy but it's more yeah it's more i think that's probably why i liked it so much because it was more it wasn't a it was more psychological thriller to me than it was uh you know horror okay i that because because i was
Starting point is 00:59:10 trying to give people like a list of like horror movies that like i've seen in like my temperance and i was like okay is it like jordan peel level of like get out us no skin Yeah, it's like it's it's it falls in that. Okay, then it'll be fine. You can absolutely handle it. Yeah, it's not, it's not like, you know, conjuring stuff. It's not like that's that's that's like that's. It's out today, right?
Starting point is 00:59:34 Yeah, it was this and Freaky Friday this week, I believe. Which I saw that. I love Freakier Friday, man. It was fun. But that's why. It's just, this is just a fun Disney movie and you're bringing, you know, yeah. And the Eminem documentary is out today. Oh, is it?
Starting point is 00:59:47 Okay, well, there you go. Oh, I didn't know that. All right, guys. So put your thoughts in there in general about what Josh Brolin said. should he have taken Hal Jordan or is it great that Kyle Chandler is doing it and will we see him in DC and will Thanos be back in the MCU what do you guys think put your thoughts on it? All right, it's question time. Before we get to question time, what's going on with your channels?
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Starting point is 01:01:09 Ask your doctor about Skyrizzi, the number one dermatologist prescribed biologic in psoriasis. Visit Skyrizzi.com or call 1866 Skyrizzi to learn more. I thought was hysterical. The OJ and Cosby moments, good Lord. Oh, good. And then Freak Your Friday, I just mentioned. I'm going to be streaming a little bit this weekend. We've got Blade dropping in Marvel Rivals,
Starting point is 01:01:36 so we're going to test that out and all that kind of stuff. So come check me out, Twitch.com, slash the swaggy blurt. YouTube.com slash the swaggy blurred. And then I've been doing my blurred breakdowns again on Mondays, So check that out. Yeah, that's pretty much it's going on right now. Right. Past 50k on my page. So excited about it. Going to figure out how I'm going to do that. Congrats, man.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Give away. I got to pick a random person out of the 50,000 people. So thank you for subscribing on the road to 100K. I remember when we were on the road to 100K on this channel. So now I'm on that journey. So thank you for following my page over on YouTube. I'm going to be covering Alien Earth this month, going to recovering peacemaker this month. Going to be covering all the major movies this month as well as all the comic stuff. So lots of my YouTube. I'm finally recovered from the craziest July ever and getting back. to it so help me down there you go check the guys out um so it's so actually right now we're at 42 there's one question that the stream yard did not capture but i haven't and that question
Starting point is 01:02:29 is from boom or bust who says i think the lesson this summer is not fatigue but a rising tide no longer lifts all ships if people are picky you need to distance from other movies it's a pretty good point yeah it is a pretty good point it used to be like oh if i'm so excited to see this dc movie i'll go see this Marvel movie because I love comic book movies in general. The people are more, and I said this yesterday too, because of those three movies, Corey, you know, I think that everybody has been in that 2015, 2016 mindset. Yeah. Oh, well, as you thought, $3 billion movies.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Well, maybe a lot of those people said, well, out of the three, what am I going to choose? A lot of people clearly chose Jurassic World. And I've got A-list. That's how I see everything. Like, I don't have infinite money. and I also don't get 100 of like free movies like everyone the internet thinks I do. I have to pay for things. But it is a matter of like a list means I do the 2015 thing.
Starting point is 01:03:23 And if you don't have that, I see how this happens. Like 20 bucks is a lot of money right now. Like it is a very financially dire time. I get it. All right. Ready to rock? Let's do it. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Tim got tickets to the live show. Is it at 7 EST? Yes, 7 EST tomorrow, Green Room 42. I hope if you haven't gotten tickets. come see us Sam's first of shoes nervous so he'll be nervous so you know what's we're just gonna be shooting the shit so we'll be there and then the live stream starts around that same time also um okay let's see next one after that uh and this is jason hey jason i see your question brother and i already we were i've been talking about it so i really
Starting point is 01:04:05 appreciate you putting in the money if you want to ask something you just want to throw it into the chat and i'll give you a a free one over there but don't worry we've talked about this all is good. Jason also said another one, following up on what I said yesterday about James Gunn, it's not me searching out his comments. It's just always seems to be in the news, whether right or wrong. I feel like he is overshadowing his creatives by always talking about their projects, especially the Batman too. Again, I'm not a gun hater. I love Superman. I want the DCO. I just want as studio, I wish as studio head, he was just more behind the scenes. So give you guys more context. Yesterday, we were talking more about James Gunn's like social media presence,
Starting point is 01:04:42 which has always been the thing that has been out there. And a lot of people like the fact that he's so open and interacts with the audience. And then some people also feel like, hey, you know, you're, and I guess I am one of these people too. I love James Gunn. I really do. I think he's one of these people out there that is so good for movies in general. But he's a studio head now. And I think that it's like, dude, focus in on being as creative as you are.
Starting point is 01:05:05 You're so creative. You're so good. Let other people answer questions. Let this guy break stories on the show and do this stuff too. like you don't need to do that anymore. And so what Jason brought up yesterday was that, you know, he noticed it on social media. And stuff was like, well, you don't have to follow him.
Starting point is 01:05:22 And I was like, I don't think it's a matter of following him because he, because Jason pays attention to movie news. And when he tweets, it's news now. Right. But Winston, are you on the same page? Yeah, I think especially, I think the best point you gave is giving someone like coy or anybody else in that sphere, like,
Starting point is 01:05:43 That is how, I mean, Josh Horowitz obviously is a fantastic interviewer. But that's how his name has gotten to where it is, is because he's the one being able to kind of pull that stuff out of people and things like that. I think giving that to Koi on the show they're doing that, A, builds the clout of said show. You know what I'm saying? If they're trying to build that show out, oh, my God, did you hear what dropped on? What's it called again? DC Studios.
Starting point is 01:06:07 What, Koy? Showcase. Exactly. Dude, did you see DC Studios? Stokeast. What's that? bro, it's the show that got on Max right now. It covers all the DC stuff.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Coy broke this crazy thing, man, where Bizarro's going to be around. Like, it's nuts. That would be something that you're both simultaneously building up the whole of said brand while getting the stuff out there that you want to get out there. And I think what's crazy about it is I think where it's coming from is Gunn really is a true fan of this stuff, like hardcore. And I think putting mixing that with the fact that like understandably some people like the spotlight and he seems to genuinely like it. I think that that's kind of the mix of what's going on a little bit. But yeah, I agree with you. I think let let let that go out to other people that that can help build them up personally.
Starting point is 01:06:57 The only thing I want to speak to it on is I think that it's it's transparency I think is necessary in some form, whether that's you guys being very kind about it. But like it, I think we need more of a clear lens as to what's happening so we can debunk stuff before it gets to become true. Like there's this thing that happens where it's like, oh my God, did you hear Blank was in the movie? And then you see the movie. They're like, they weren't in it. I hate it. And it's like no one ever officially said it. Like that the internet makes things.
Starting point is 01:07:25 It doesn't have to be him. It doesn't be him. He's the head of the studio now. I'm just speaking to the fact that. I agree with you. I agree with you. Boom or bust. listening to movie news you would think Superman hit a billion in what world is making less than man of steel and air's
Starting point is 01:07:42 suicide squad is a big success both of which people still call losers for DCs suicide squad came off a hated bvS and man of steel was also launching a universe don't move goalposts keep the same energy good yeah okay so um for all the people that hate talking about box office with us we kind of address this we're not in the same world. So it doesn't you, there's a certain level of you can't necessarily look at what movies sold after inflation and things like that because you, you still need to look at the era of what we're dealing with at the particular moment. Movies did not cost as much. So you had more people going to see said movies. We were also just in a heyday where that was something that people were doing. It's just not something that's happening right now. So it's not necessarily a moving of the
Starting point is 01:08:31 goalposts as in people are having a wake-up call that the world is different. And so that is part of the reason why those get compared all the time, because relative to what was going on at the time, Man of Steel and Suicide Squad, your Suicide Squad did not do as well as other things that were happening. So that is where a lot of this is coming as far as context goes. Jason, I was talking to a few of my college buddies and they said something I thought was interesting. They like movies, but are more casuals than anything. They like comic book movies, but all three have no interest in Superman or Fantastic Four and haven't seen them. When I brought up Avengers was coming next year, they all agreed.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Oh, yeah, I'll definitely see that. It made me wonder how other college-age people view superhero movies. They seem very excited for Avengers and Batman too, but no interest in Superman and any other Marvel DC movie coming out. And he follows it up by saying, thank you for all you guys do. Love Christian Coy and Winston, your guys hard work. Also graduating with Miami next year from the University of Utah. Thank you, Jason. and congratulations.
Starting point is 01:09:31 So to address those points, you know, like, I think he's right, though, too. Look, if you're Marvel, you're nervous going into the amount of money you're spending on the Avengers because of the box office that your last three movies have done. But you do have that same thing you had for Deadpool and Wolverine. You've got that name of the Avengers. You've got Downey. You have these things.
Starting point is 01:09:54 You have a big budget, huge. It's the Avengers. That's the event thing. So they have the best shot of hitting that number. Does it a guarantee? Like I was going back and forth, Luke's like, I don't know. It doesn't look like it's going to make a billion. I said, don't count out the Avengers.
Starting point is 01:10:10 I just don't, don't. That's, it's still pause. Just because those movies ate shit, it still has that name. Because if Deadpool and Wolverine was coming out next year after all these movies are just in what they did, nobody would think that Deadpool and Wolverine would hit a billion. And it still would. I think just by the nature of the. chair fiasco, that proves that the Avengers will still do game.
Starting point is 01:10:33 How many millions upon millions of views to watch chairs get revealed for the Avengers, it'll be fine. I also think what he's speaking to is like, he said casual, like his word, but casual fans, Spider-Man has a strong name, Avengers have a strong name. Superman didn't. So like Superman was fighting against a bit more than Avengers or Spider-Man will be. And I think Superman, even though it's the biggest comic character maybe of all time, that's going to be more in the category of your Fantastic Four and even not quite Thunderbolts,
Starting point is 01:11:06 but like it's a known thing, but it's not a guaranteed thing. So I personally think that it doing as well as it did and passing Jurassic domestically, that's a testament to the quality of the movie, but it also was an uphill battle that's different than Avengers will be. Miguel Zane, do you think that Guns Superfamily would just have Kara and Kelle? I hope they don't put John Kent. Maybe the Kandar story, Brainiac as villain, thoughts? Quo, why, why don't you take this one?
Starting point is 01:11:33 You know, Superfamily is really interesting because this is the last thing I would have expected. For everyone that thinks I am like deeply in D.C., this was an article, I was like, what? And I looked at sources because I was like, what? I didn't know this was coming. I didn't know this was happening. I love that I have no idea what this might be. I assume, obviously, we've got Kara and Clark and those elements. but like the super family is a more new concept like the super core in the comic books and all the things with like all of the the
Starting point is 01:12:01 kryptonians and stuff i don't know exactly what this would be i still thought this would be like a mr terrific superman team up more of a a team up movie but the word family changes the context so uh i excited i have no idea what this is all right uh sean mcade thanks for six months of awesome movie fandom thank you Sean who has been a member for six months all my love to the entire team see you tomorrow gage coming to the live show first rounds on me got to get back to saving the world do it all the best guys you're amazing so you Sean Sean's the best look forward to meeting you my friend um I wonder if Saul's gonna be there tomorrow I didn't even ask me that's a name I haven't heard in a long time he's in the chat a lot
Starting point is 01:12:38 I wonder I wonder if he's gonna be at this show tomorrow I don't know I don't even does he even live in New York anywhere I have no idea Tyler Bate hear any good things about Matt Fractions Batman I asked this. What the hell is that? Matt Fraction is an incredible writer. He's done a lot of Indies. He's done a decent amount of workup Marvel. DC, he's done some, but Batman is like the biggest flagship book. He's a writer. I love sex criminals, one of the books he did with Chip Zadarski.
Starting point is 01:13:04 I'm so excited to see what he does on Batman. Oh, Christian, he wrote the Hawkeye run. They based the Hawkeye show off of. Oh, okay. So like he's like that kind of like quirky, enigmatic, funny. His Batman, I'm intrigued by because he's, he's the equivalent of like a Stephen Soderberg movie or like, you know, not quite a Nolan, but like one of those big names that you're like, oh, them plus big property, what is it but for comics? Okay. Well, Tyler follows it up and says, I disagree with the term superhero fatigue. By that logic, I've been suffering from overall
Starting point is 01:13:33 movie fatigue in general. I think theater fatigue is real. Um, that's kind of what I was speaking to is the whole year, like the top 10 movies, four of them are superhero movies still. And that feels like most years, but all of the box office is a little lower. Yeah. I don't think. though. Yeah, but I will push, but I do think that there is overall superhero fatigue from the general audience. I do. So I'll agree with Tyler on that one. Disagree of Tyler on that one. Tom Hanks. Coy, are you still going to do that triple feature day? Superman Fantastic for Jurassic World. Also, what part of North Carolina are you from? I lived in Raleigh, Greensboro, and Boone. I am going to try to do that next Wednesday. I'm so excited to go Jurassic Super Fantastic.
Starting point is 01:14:14 I have not done it yet, but I am dying to because that sounds like the best day ever. And I was born in Danville, Virginia, right near Greensboro, North Carolina. And I'm actually finally going home in September. I'm going to go to Boston and to Virginia for my best friends, 40th and one of my best friends. And my grandpa's 80th. So I'm doing an East Coast. There you go. Peter Stone, that article is literally disingenuous about CBMs.
Starting point is 01:14:36 I don't know who was disingenuous. I think that one of the things that maybe in someone else pointed to this out that I didn't agree with that we didn't get to. I do think, though, you look at something like no way home. There was lots of, there was lots of things that leaked and got out. out there and people went in droves to see it. I think spoilers, depending on what it are, what they are, could actually get people in the theaters. I don't necessarily think that leaks and those types of things are a deterrent
Starting point is 01:14:59 for moving leaks have been happening forever, set leaks, all those things. And that didn't deter people. But I, but I think the difference is, is what kind of leaks are we talking about. Now, mind you, I think it still would have been better potentially, maybe not money wise, but I think for the moviegoing experience, if we didn't know that, you know, that Andrew and oh my god why can i not remember his name thank you if toby and rew were in the movie if we if we genuinely were surprised to know that i think it would have had a whole different kind of effect um but all that being said i i i think it's just the type
Starting point is 01:15:35 of leak that is the problem one way or the other it's the the complaint about too much of the plot is getting out i don't think that there's something wrong with saying that and i do think that that is a problem. And trailers, like, we've talked about Christian, like going into a movie and be like, well, I've seen this, I've seen the trailer. I think there's an element of that depending on the leak. And I think that like the Spider-Man method is great. Yeah. Tyler B.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Fewer leaks in movies should be possible just how tight-lipped the video game industry is. Yeah, but you also get, you remember, there's a lot of studio moles and like, not even moles. Like I said, a conversation that I had with somebody
Starting point is 01:16:12 who says, yeah, Sadie Sink is is going to be Gwen Stacy and you know, that kind of stuff happens all the time. So it's it's, who knows?
Starting point is 01:16:29 All I was going to say that it's funny, all the talk about the superhero fatigue stuff and people not going to the theaters. You mentioned this earlier. I don't know if you guys have seen how much more aggressive. We talked about at once. The commercials of are before the movie now they're like that that not that they're trailers they're putting straight
Starting point is 01:16:48 effing commercials and they keep they're putting more and more and more did you hear we have did you hear that yes that was one of the stories on yesterday he's cutting back finally cutting back on oh good but like that's what i was talking about with my rant about movies like they're adding more money they're adding more commercials they're not adding more value for the consumer and that's what they need to work on is the value and i i i because i totally agree i don't want to go to movie 30 minutes in waiting for it to start yeah and i think that that was we i mean the whole thing yesterday but like his were getting pissed off about it that's why Cole Kidman should be minute 10 right if Hulk appears in brand new day maybe that's where we see him revert back to rage form yeah it's he but he
Starting point is 01:17:26 already is going to be rage form that I guess that's another I mean that I thought has already been out there but if it's not I know that for a fact it's it's it's Punisher and and spider man trying to contain Hulk I've talked about this before leading Spider-Man Hulk to try to calm down it's exactly what it is if it could even highlight the struggle with anger between Hulk and Punisher and I don't know if a hot mic already reported on that already too but that's exactly i had heard this a long time ago a long time ago and then roca confirmed it too and then the knowledge reporter stole as soon as they announced hulk it was the thing that made sense especially how much people want professor hulk to turn into rage hulk and setting up doomsday and secret words with good hulk casual scroll i would love it
Starting point is 01:18:04 if gun offered zach snider to helm the mystic side of the dc u i think his style would fit characters like Constantine Zatana Ettrigen. Etrigan. I don't know if I agree with that. I've never really kind of correct me if I'm wrong here. I don't remember a Zach Snyder kind of mystical anything. I understand the idea of he does darker stuff well, but darker and mysticism isn't an automatic like one for one. So I don't know if I'd necessarily agree with that thought process, let alone as considering how already complicated Constantine and Etrigan are, I don't need Zach Snyder to add more
Starting point is 01:18:43 complication to those characters and in the wrong way personally, but that's just me. I do think that he should hire him though for something. I think he should. I don't have a problem with that. But that wouldn't be what I would hand over to him. Maybe not. Marcus M. Supergirl should move its date up to the early May slot left by Doomsday. It's currently sandwiched between
Starting point is 01:19:03 Toy Story 5 and the new minions movie. I agree with that. I think this year we learned that like someone else said, the rising tide element. I don't think people should keep shooting for crowded months. And they wrapped a year before the release. Like it's got a year of visual effects time. So if their movie's done, if. Maybe, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Go pal, it's worth differentiation streaming from PVOD. That's true. I completely agree. And that is something that's different. Like when a movie is a $7 a month service and you're splitting it amongst five people, that's like a dollar that goes to that movie. But if you're doing PVOD, then that is staying home and taking care of your family, but also supporting the movie.
Starting point is 01:19:39 And I agree. But it still cuts into your box office because, again, paying $30 and being like, not that everybody's like, hey, let's invite all the friends over to watch Superman on PVOD, but it is. I'm talking like 45 days versus, you know, I still think there's a theatrical window. That needs to be firmer. I agree. Andrew Carnes. Gun is lying.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Robert Pattinson is going to the DC. you, Robert, now in Batman 2. You really think they're going to do Bats and Robin in two universes in this climate? No way. Let Matt do Grounded Trilogy, then upgrade R-PAT to Justice League. Love you guys. I think that the point that was made the other day, which I thought was interesting,
Starting point is 01:20:16 is because of what is happening with the box office and those other things, that do you want to try to test the waters with having two Batman out at this point? Wouldn't it be safer to just have one? Because I know, Coy, you want it. I know, I mean, a lot of people want that, but I mean, in the big business. If I could have a Prince Street pepperoni pizza and a Prince Street cheese pizza, I'm going to eat both pizzas. You are. Yeah, you are.
Starting point is 01:20:43 But if they separate them by a year or two, then that's too bad man pizzas. Yeah, no, but most people are watching carbs. They ain't got time for one of each. I know. Like, we get one of my wife. I mean, I like pizza. I like pizza. I want me to put one slice.
Starting point is 01:20:59 I want two slices of pizza. Me too. You're not 15 anymore, Koi. I actually lost, I've lost four and a half pounds in the last seven days. You know why? Not because you're eating two pizzas, all right? Because you only had one, if not zero pizzas. I've had zero pizzas of late and I've had zero Batman.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Go pal. Jurassic World on PVOD is still making money. That's the point that I'm glad he made Winston. That's the difference there. So even if you're spending $30 to buy and watch many times you're 25 for rental, where Peacock is a flat free to be there. That's the thing. Is it so you can't, you have, you've got it.
Starting point is 01:21:30 you still got to pay for it and it's still making money that way. Which, which again, I still think is fair, but you are also able to cut that down in the fact that, like, again, do we,
Starting point is 01:21:39 what is the average movie ticket price around the country? Do we know? 16. Maybe less. Yeah, I've only been in the cities for less ticket. Call it 15. It's got enough,
Starting point is 01:21:49 let's just say it's 15. That means you're essentially getting two movie tickets. So if you're assuming that it's a date night and then fine. But, like, genuinely, if it's a scenario of, I love it for, families to be like, bro, I got two more, I got two kids.
Starting point is 01:22:04 It's way more expensive than that. Great for them. But technically for the box office, you have shot yourself in the foot. And that's why they should wait 45 days and streaming should be 90. Well, this is what, this is what Go-Pal also says. The concern is going to free streaming immediately. I think there's two levers of concerns. I think I'm with Winston here.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Like, there's tiering concerns. Free pancakes. Theaters also need more theater checks by staff. Yes. I agree. You know what I've been thinking of? You remember how that would be a thing. If a movie was bad,
Starting point is 01:22:33 HBO would get it super quickly. But if a movie was good, HBO would get it, but it'd be like a year later. It feels like they're treating everything like a bad movie that got to HBO quickly. That's a really good point, dude. Yeah, all right, let's see.
Starting point is 01:22:49 So next one after that is Clipchamp Razor. Fantastic 4 ended up with 170, million in media value for marketing through brand deals. So the total marketing costs may be much less than people are estimating. It's a good point. I love when people bring this up because action figures, marketing, and brand deals do help buoy. So it doesn't have to make less, but it still needs to make more than it.
Starting point is 01:23:12 They have been making. Yes. Armada has Koi and Winston who watched Ice Cube's War of the Worlds get away from that. One of the best lines of the year. No, it's like, I didn't get a chance to react to it yet. Winston, I was surprised that were you, did you react? Do you have you done the blazing saddles yet? I haven't done the blazing saddles yet.
Starting point is 01:23:29 The family stuff got me kind of screwed up. But it is definitely so that. And I guess I need to do War the World. Is it still at 0%? Oh, I don't know. I haven't had time for Naked Gun. I'm not making time for Ice Cube's War of the World. Let me see.
Starting point is 01:23:43 I'm going to see if it's still at more of the worlds. I also want to keep liking Ice Cube. It is at 4% now. It's gotten up to 4. All right. It was at zero for so long. 27 reviews. So you knew that there would be somebody who came out.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Who's positive? I want to see the positive. Please let it be Bibiani. Please. And 20% from audience members. Jesus. What are we at for number? I'll let you know in a second.
Starting point is 01:24:13 I'm trying to see who. Oh, after you rotten tomatoes. Jordan Hoffman from Entertainment Weekly. He's the only one. He said it's certainly stupid, but it's also a great deal of fun. Yeah, that doesn't give you a friend. That doesn't mean that fun means you get a three out of five. That's why it's a flawed.
Starting point is 01:24:27 Rotten Tomatoes is so flawed. All right. We are currently at 65. Armada, have you all heard, watch the movie 40 acres? People keep recommending this. I came out with Daniel Deadweiler.
Starting point is 01:24:39 It has 91% of Rotten Tomatoes. It's going to watch it soon. Someone the other day recommended 40 acres like 75 times. So no. Have you guys seen that one? No. Ever heard of it? No.
Starting point is 01:24:49 I just heard about it the other day. Now it's the second time I've heard of it. Israel Lopez finally saw Fantastic Four, but I liked but I liked soups more but liked more soups, no dinoes for me kind of
Starting point is 01:25:03 I think that you like Superman more but you didn't that's what I got out of that. Glad you liked the movies. Yes, I'm glad you liked it. Tim, great Tim Sim. Well, regardless of where the box office goes at least I'm happy we finally got a very good
Starting point is 01:25:18 fantastic board and a third official attend especially have fantastic four. Here, here, sir. At least we got that. I like that movie a lot. Jean-Filippe, Hey, everyone, hope we're having a good day. What would you like to see in the Batman, too?
Starting point is 01:25:29 I'd like to see either Mr. Freeze or hush is the villain. I think the hush thing is true. I think the hush thing is true. But what about you guys? What would you like to see? I think hush, court of owls might be a thing. I would prefer hush court of owls. I just, I, if we're bringing it into the UC, fine.
Starting point is 01:25:45 But I'd like this idea of bat. Just give me the ground of Batman. Don't get into any sort of like crazy sci-fi mysticism, whatever. Like, I think keep it where it's at. In the beside. There's only one missed the freeze. Gregory Dopp, should movies use less CGI effects? Our studios paying too much and using too many shots of them?
Starting point is 01:26:06 Are FX studios charging too much in their struggle? I say yes and yes, personally. I think that FX studios are being rushed too much. I think these artists would do better if they had a little more time and money. So I think less shots that need visual effects if you're going to rush them. Winston, what do you think? Yeah. I think we've got a little over dependent on that the same way we've got a little over dependent on shooting on sound stages.
Starting point is 01:26:31 I'm not saying that you shouldn't for certain things, but I think save the sound stage stuff for like TV shows. Yeah. You know, and then let's let's get out in the real world. Mariana Barbar, I'm off topic, but I'm glad that Disney and Gina Carrano settled. I wanted a trial and discovery, but their statement speaks volumes. The way she was fired and slander was beyond criminal. Very unprofessional of a company to do that. I had text from a few people yesterday because I had said when that lawsuit came in,
Starting point is 01:26:54 I said from the lawsuit and reading everything, I said, she's going to win this lawsuit. I really thought it was nuts. She was going to win because of what was said in general of how they went about it and they settled. Now whether or not she's going to work with them again, that could have just been for the statement itself because they just want to show it so she can get work again.
Starting point is 01:27:13 But I think that, you know, look, there's a lot of different things you could talk about for this one. But I just for the way that that whole thing was set up, It just wasn't, he was in a different time, too. So I don't know what you guys think. I hadn't involved in it. This is how I found out. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:32 Basically, they settled and, you, because I think that Disney, they were going to lose that loss and they settled with her. And then they made a statement that they were looking forward to working with her again. And I don't know if that's necessarily true or just a statement to say, like, hey, we've settled with her so other people can hire her now. You told me that she was an heiress. I've learned so much today. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:27:50 Yeah. Levi, here in Ukraine, supporting the effort. Just want to say, thank you, three, for all you to keep us updated and everything, comic news. Thank you, thank you. Thank you, thank you, sir. Stay safe. Yes, stay safe, please.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Jose Diaz. What's up, dude? What's up, guys? Hope you guys have a great weekend. I will always die on the hill that after end game, there should have been a two to four year break. Maybe. And I think that's the other thing, too, do you guys agree with this?
Starting point is 01:28:12 Because I don't think this will happen. But if, and I've been saying this last couple of days, if Doomsday and Secret Wars underperform in the way that these two movies did, should Marvel take a break and wait about two or three years before they bring X-Men back? It's tricky because if they start casting them now, they're going to age, and I think they can't really make that gamble without casting them now. And then I'm hedging, I think they're hedging their bets on Spider-Man and two Avengers films getting the brand back to a good spot.
Starting point is 01:28:42 But if they have them cast, they can't suddenly have like 17-year-olds turn 21. They can't stranger things these kids. Unless they film them all and then just go, we're just not going to release it for a few years because y'all clearly need a break. Dinner's ready, you don't have to heat it back up. Put things in the Disney vault, but in a new way. That's right.
Starting point is 01:29:01 Jose follows it up. Also, Disney Plus, I believe, will be a detriment to Disney. Unless they change their style. They're doing a lot of things with the Hulu app and changing things there too. But even, I mean, this WWE thing with ESPN was the stupidest decision they could ever make. It was really, really dumb.
Starting point is 01:29:17 They're going to lose a lot of money on basically so if you guys didn't know they they Peacock you if you if you subscribe to peacock it's like what eight nine bucks a month or whatever it is you get all the PLEs the pay per views for right no matter what it is now they're moving everything over to ESPN
Starting point is 01:29:32 and I thought okay well I have ESPN I have that bundle deal but that's not at work you got to pay like extra $25 or something for ESPN a month I'm like oh is it like UFC where it's like it doesn't get your UFC well I don't think it's the same element there because I think with the UFC you've got to pay for like the $49 or $59
Starting point is 01:29:47 dollars whatever it is plus you're not to do that far but you've got to you've got to pay for the subscription like which is an extra 25 month i'm like i don't watch it enough that i yeah so cable you're you were you were describing the same package BS of like all right you got your basic right but then you got your basic plus the tm t set then you got your basic plus the sports then you got your basic plus the HBO and if you want it all hit a grand at it that's yeah they showed a there was a instagram real i saw that's that showed the old Chappelle Cliff and they said why Disney decided
Starting point is 01:30:20 or why ESPN decided to do that with the WBE, why they decided to do with the fans and then Chappelle going, because F them! That's why. James Diesel, move heaven and earth to get Craigor on Brave and Bold. If he's interested. He wants to do a Joker
Starting point is 01:30:39 Harley Quinn movie I heard. Sign me up. He is one of my, he is quickly, this is someone how I didn't even know existed about you know, two weeks ago. Then I watched Barbarian and now weapons. And now I want to see everything he does. He's doing,
Starting point is 01:30:53 he's doing Resident Evil next. I had the weirdest experience where they, I didn't know Zach, but we have mutual friends. And I went into a screening, not knowing what it was. I was invited. And it was like 10 of us watching Barbarian way early.
Starting point is 01:31:06 And we were filmed with GoPro's for our reactions. And then Zach, like, use that for some of the edit. And like, I got to meet Zach and talk about his process. So I like, I'm so invested in this dude because he was so kind and so hands-on that he, like, filmed reactions. I was just going to tell you, I'm finally on the same page with you with Brendan Sclanar
Starting point is 01:31:22 as Batman. I saw drop. Oh, you just saw drop and that was it. Drop's not even though you do you watch something, you watch 1923 you'll be even more convinced. I just, but just from drop I was like, yo he do got that Bruce Wayne down a little bit. Right? Yeah, he's pretty great.
Starting point is 01:31:39 All right. After that one, travel chief, thank you for the super chap, but that one, we're not, we're not doing that today. So next one, Brandon Summers. Why do studios feel like they need these inflated budgets? Of course, things are rising during development that can cause cost to go on and expect to. But certainly, WB, Disney can't be happy right now. I think it's going to change Brandon. I think they're going to start to really realize that they're just maybe because I think Deadpool and
Starting point is 01:32:09 Wolverine also shifted people going, oh, we can hit it. We just got to do the right thing. And they just haven't done the right thing. And I think they realize that they're going to have to scale things. down. The only other thing I was going to say about budgets that I didn't even think about if we're going to give credence to hey, people aren't spending money to go to the movies because things are more expensive. I guess you could technically say the same thing about making said
Starting point is 01:32:28 movies. If everything in the world is more expensive, then maybe they are like hey, this would have normally been a 150 budget, but life sucks now, so it's almost 300. It's true. I am too fly cam. I refuse to give Marvel money until Zachala is back. Chadwick passing was tragic,
Starting point is 01:32:44 but that character is far bigger than any actor. But I think that's already from all the rumors, it looks like that's the plan anyway. Yeah, it just, the way it was handled, I agree, was just not correct. And I understand people's frustration because it went beyond the movies. All of a sudden, they were like, well, we're not even going to put Chachala in animated stuff or video games or anything. And it was just like, this has gone way too far. Yeah, I think they're going to change that now. Michael D. longtime viewer, first time chatter, go nolls. Hell yeah. Did the normal movie going audience even know the Fantastic Four to eventually linked to the 616 timeline? Seems like a missed
Starting point is 01:33:16 opportunity and plot. I mean, I was surprised that they didn't, I guess we're far enough away from it, but in the post credit scene that they didn't, I mean, they show something significant, but not something that necessarily links back. We don't know what that is. It should have been something a little bit more definitive.
Starting point is 01:33:35 It's kind of why I get it if you were a little bit later, you weren't paying attention. They were very clear to both A, hit you immediately on Earth 8 to 8, and then to put it again with Kirby's birthday, and to be like, why are there no other superheroes here? And they made it like, there are only heroes on this planet. Like they tried to do it enough in there.
Starting point is 01:33:55 It just depends on if people were watching or not. I also think it's going to collapse into the universe as a plot device for Doomsday. I think it's going to be a relevant, necessary thing. Right. Right. Michael says, Normie's had no motivation to prioritize seeing Fantastic Four. I probably have no clue that Robert Daniel Jr. is Doom. I really like Fantastic for it.
Starting point is 01:34:13 For me, that black hole silver surfer scene is one of if not the best, visually awesome scenes in Marley history. That was really cool. The second act of Fantastic Four, I think, is the best second act in the MCU. Really damn good. Really damn good. I am two fly cam. Matt Smith and Star Wars, Young Palps R-rated scene.
Starting point is 01:34:29 O-T-W-L-L-L-L. There was, they did, he's not young Palps in this. I think that's from a different, I'm not sure what you mean there. But as far as him being in Star Wars, yeah, we covered that the other day. And I think that he's, he elevates it. If he's going to be the villain, he's perfect for it. I'm so excited for Matt Smith and Star Wars.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Great. Go, pal. I wondered if assigned seats and online booking ended the rising tide. You don't get surprised by sold out shows and pick something else anymore. I don't think it ended the rising tide because, I mean, didn't sign seats have been around for like 10 years, if not more.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Oh, like longer than that. I feel like that also helped movies hit a billion because then you'd be like, all right, next one. I got to get the next, next, next next,
Starting point is 01:35:02 like I personally go, pal. I don't think that was a negative effect. Yeah, not for that one. Okay, let's say, Jason Ashcroft,
Starting point is 01:35:09 apologize for his first of which I wasn't trying to cause drama and nutrition, love the show and hope you know. I know you're not. I know you're not. uh brandon summer what everyone's level of hype for doomsday and secret wars don't get me wrong i'm looking forward to seeing both but i don't feel the way i did before infinity war and ingham of course because the buildup's not the same it's not it the first one felt like a television show with this with the season finale this doesn't this just feels like a new television show that
Starting point is 01:35:37 kind of links back to other television shows it's really weird for me personally uh doomsday is my third most anticipated comic book movie of a year that's crazy what comes out it's it's spider man supergirl you have supergirl over over the one month tomorrow comic is so good and drow tony junior as as a you know microwave iron man oh wow okay yeah yeah i what was the first one that you had spider man yeah i see i don't know yet i probably put spider man number one because of the punisher honestly and then how crazy is it that we're both like not number one eventually movie. But I would put Doomsday second. Supergirl for me is third. The funny thing is
Starting point is 01:36:17 I didn't even realize they were all coming out the same year in my brain. So like I didn't even process that. Yeah. It would probably be super Supergirl Spider-Man Doomsday. So Doomsday's third for you too. Now that you say it, but it's just because I don't even know what's good like Infinity War. There was
Starting point is 01:36:35 enough to know with Infinity War. I don't know with this. Well, that's the difference, right? Because Corey, you clearly know what to expect with Supergirl. And I love that thing. Right. Spider-Man, we have a pretty good idea of what we're getting there.
Starting point is 01:36:50 I mean, The Punisher. And the marketing of outdoor web swinging has done more than anything. I don't know what Doomsy's about. I don't know anything about it. So, yeah, I am two-fly cam. Flying Grayson's Batman, too. Can Reeves do it? Flying Grayson.
Starting point is 01:37:04 Did Grayson came from the circus? His family was the Flying Graces. Right. Okay. I mean, yeah, Pattinson said he wanted Robin in the next film, and that's the movie. And for a little tidbit for the Cordowals, Christian, they use essentially zombie-fied grace and descendants, like these families of acrobats to become these assassins.
Starting point is 01:37:26 So can you squeeze all of that into it? What's tricky for me is that hush is like a greatest hits comic. And Cord of Al's was more of like a slow burn methodical, which seems to fit Matt Reeves more. So what's that going to look like? Johnny Bravo. What's the joking naked gun you told your dad? Well, I don't want to,
Starting point is 01:37:41 Koya hasn't seen it yet. So I know I'm not going to square. Oh, Goddare. I really want to know. Hold on. I can meet you guys for a second. I'm not going to say, because I don't want to ruin for the audience and I'll say is this.
Starting point is 01:37:51 And Winston will know immediately what I'm talking about. It's when he first sees Pamela Anderson. Out of the office? Yeah. Aaron, Kyle Chandler was up for cable in Deadpool 2, but ultimately went to Roland. Interesting. Bruling up for Howells was going to Chandler.
Starting point is 01:38:07 That's interesting. I didn't know that. Connor Mollis. Corky and Wilson. Yippy, Skippy, Skippy, Skippy. there you go um brandon to warner rose give me tim drake is the main robin and a movie you coward how about how about give me a good dick grason stop this yeah no nipples dick grason for real mirjam due to my health issues is not always me to go to the movies but i'm glad i was able to
Starting point is 01:38:29 see superman and potastic four in the theater this j that's great i'm glad you got an opportunity to do that both good movies to see in the theater by the way i agree cj what do you think a member for a month. Thank you, CJ. What do you think about showing Sam the brand new day? What is it? Brand new day. At the live show tomorrow, just don't tell her. R.DJ.'s playing June. Well, I talked about it on it. She doesn't want to see it. She doesn't want to know who the villain is. And I'm going to tell people at the event tomorrow and not during Q&A. Don't reveal it. Don't tell her. Don't ruin it for her because you don't want to be that person that does that. The suit, she's not going to care about the suit. Whatever, she's not going to care about it. But we talked about it. So we did.
Starting point is 01:39:07 We just released our Brave New World reaction today. We shot Thunderbolts. That comes out on Tuesday. And I asked her at the end of it. I said, do you want to see the reveal for this thing? They announced something really big. I didn't tell her what it was. They announced something really big.
Starting point is 01:39:20 At Comic-Con, this is a big thing. People want to know if you want to. She's like, no, I don't want to do it. I want to just learn it because she can avoid it. She's been able to avoid it to all this other stuff. She didn't know tons of things about these movies that have been in the press and all that stuff. She had no clue. So I'm going to, I'm not going to show it to her.
Starting point is 01:39:36 No. Guy part one at a two in the 100 year of movies only 57 of them have made a billion 35 those movies came out between 2012 and 2019 well that's inflation but also like there was a different expectation of like that that was inflation plus that was the the thing to hit like it was more common like movies are not 2020 really shifted theatrical it absolutely did right guy I don't think I think today's superhero box office is less into the fatigue but more so how historic and unprecedented that error was. I think partially that's true.
Starting point is 01:40:08 I think partially, you know, but essentially what Corey just said, once 2020 hit it flipped it all on its head and it wasn't any more of like, oh, we're going to the movies this week. We're going to movies this week. More streaming, more opportunity, more things, generational thing. A lot of the generations don't go and see movies. The younger generations, don't see.
Starting point is 01:40:24 That's the thing. The older, older, our us is fine. Like the millennials, like elder millennials and like Gen X, but like older folks are not really going. and young folks are not really going. So you put both of those collectively together with everything else we've talked about. And there you go. Connor Mullis,
Starting point is 01:40:41 the next Barbenheimer is Freakier Weapons. I could have swore that Freakier Friday would have been one of those movies. Like, why isn't this on Disney Plus? But again, talking about a movie that was made for the right budget for what it was, it's going to get the right audience in there and knew who it was targeting, and it's going to wind up being a hit for them. It really was fun. I'm assuming that your daughters and your,
Starting point is 01:41:03 your wife are gonna go together or something like that they're gonna see it if if but they might wait for disney plus i don't know but they they they they well my oldest and my wife want to see it the little one doesn't want to watch her she's like i'm bored did she see the first one no she's don't get her to sit down and watch the first one she'll be ready to go running to the new one yeah but she but that's the thing is that she doesn't you got to really lock her into this sure yeah busy bc bb hey everyone happy friday going to see glad to see the trio again no question a just positive thoughts to winston this family busy b's the best appreciate that busy that do. Yeah. This is
Starting point is 01:41:35 a great conversation. Alex Ruelas, Christian, you're working on a pilot. How would you react if Jeff announced who's directing and starring in it before you you do? It's a good question. I would be like, what are you doing? I just similar that, the same way that they do. But if that's the news, if I have because there's someone, oh, and Coy, I got to tell you
Starting point is 01:41:54 off air of someone that is being floated to get approached with one of the roles, you're going to, I'm just going to text you. I'm going to text you during the show if I get your reaction because someone Live reaction, big book. Someone in our circle who is involved with the show can get this person. So we're going to send it.
Starting point is 01:42:17 I'm so curious. And actors are hungry right now, dude. I'm going to send it right now and I want to see both your reaction. Ready. No, dude. Oh, You're filming in LA, right? You're filming in LA.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Listen, I don't know if we're going to get that person. I'm just telling you. On set every day. I'm just telling you that this person can get that person in the script. That would be fantastic. Which role? Well, I'll tell you. I'll tell you off.
Starting point is 01:42:50 Okay. So anyway, to answer that question, like if that person was on and we didn't want to say anything. And then Jeff, I'd be like, what are you doing? And he'd be like, hey, man, it's a big story. I'd be like, that sucks. But I also know that's how it goes. But that, to be honest with you, that's part of why I'm not the biggest fan of the rise of that happening. Like it's not Jeff specific, but just as like a whole.
Starting point is 01:43:14 And it's Jeff's job. You know, no, no, I understand that. But that job, like, used to be specifically Perez Hilton saying some random crap, and now it's just become like a common gay thing. It's the new way of news. El Babiaga, I think Batterson World can still work in Gunn Universe, 8 Mile, Detroit, Vegas, Alabama, and Alabama and Miami, Florida all feel so different, but in USA, all could fit. You know, that's a fun way to parallel.
Starting point is 01:43:39 I like the concept of this message. I personally still don't want to see that myself, but I love what you're, I like this idea. Yeah. Tell the truth. Love that. I maybe see why it bothers some people, but gun being on social media is one of the things that makes him loved and different from Fagie.
Starting point is 01:43:55 It's cool to me. I think a lot of people feel that way. Just the question is just with more ways to get yourself in trouble. I also just think that there's, he can still be transparent and be on social media and also not, like, I don't know how, I don't know how to directly sum that stuff up. Because like, one of the things that I thought was brilliant is when he was defending Matt Reeves and when he straight up was like, yo, get off. Like, he, like, chill. I, when he get the movie, you go get the movie. I was like, that's the most black mama thing you could have said.
Starting point is 01:44:23 That was hilarious. Busy also supports for Corey. but, Coy, now that I've told you that potential person, now I'm putting everything I can't, I want to, I almost want to tell people in the Kickstarter. I'm like, I won't be able to tell them who. I'm like, do you. It is.
Starting point is 01:44:38 That is so funny. You can get that person, please. Let's fund this thing. Game change. Tim, Tim, thinking about the notion of how more people were choosing rebirth over Superman and Pathasic Four is their only movie in July and how I chose both comic-up films instead. It's due to me having YouTube reviewers to see more casuals not.
Starting point is 01:44:54 That's a great point, too, because you follow the space, Tim, right? you follow that you're in that conversation you're here all the time you're having it on different channels so that's i think that's an excellent point and we've also seen tim for years like i tims like an o g of us so like there's a there's a 10 year um connection to this material easily uh that little yankee props to you three for keeping step spirit visible thank you sorry i can't make tomorrow's live show christian maybe i'll see you at new york comic on i'm going to try to go definitely going to try to go try to yeah are you okay i have nothing yet but if i can i'm there good uh All right, let's see.
Starting point is 01:45:28 How many we're at? We're at 85. Edit the movies. Happy Friday, gents, wishing you and your family the best. Winston, I was sick this week and finally saw Jurassic Rebirth. I should have just slept. Brandon Summers says, Winston, log off and watch Blazing Settles now. I hope you and your family situation.
Starting point is 01:45:47 I appreciate it. So for those that are that as far as the Blazing Settles thing, I've fully recorded it too so that I can do the live watch along with people. and I'll do the edited of the reaction later. But yeah, it's just, it's just purely been, I've been ripping and running. GoPel was nice. They invited Rebecca Stabb to Fantastic Four premiere.
Starting point is 01:46:05 All the, uh, OG, like the original Corman Fantastic Four. They were there, right? Yeah, and Dun Jones was there. They were in the movie. They were in the movie for like, yeah, they had a cameo. Yeah. And Ian Gruffold was there. It was cool.
Starting point is 01:46:16 Oh, that's cool. Casual scroll. Coy! Is the absolute universe in DC characters stronger than the known DC characters? They seem to be, especially like Batman is physically stronger. I think of Wonder Woman as being stronger. I think they're a little elevated, but I don't know about one to oneing them. Superbad seems a little bit weaker because he's got the cape is like a sentient thing helping him.
Starting point is 01:46:35 I'd agree with you actually. Yeah, I think it's character by character because we haven't seen enough of a lantern yet to know either. But yeah, character to character would depend. This is BS, guys. Connor Mullis, forklift time was canceled. We shut down at work early. Sorry to disappoint. I was excited to.
Starting point is 01:46:48 Come on. Damn, dude. I'm so sorry. Yeah, come on. Busy B. Box office prediction for weapons. I say 40. say 40
Starting point is 01:46:56 damn you think you think even with freakier out there yeah totally different audiences no no I understand that I just I don't know I like you unfortunately a number like if we're thinking about it's probably what dudes are age and a little younger like I would say 40 to 43 for weapons
Starting point is 01:47:11 and like 35 for uh freakier see I would just flip it I would say 40 for freaky and 35 for weapons and not because weapons are you think Freaky's gonna beat can we bet on that There's no world that freak your Friday is going to feed. Well, I should say it. They were close in tracking.
Starting point is 01:47:29 I just think that because also, you're the first one to say you should bet on family movies before you do anything else. But I also think this is, I think the specific demographic, I think there's a different. I think this is targeted more towards women. I really do. Which is fair. And we've seen that that's an untapped demographic a lot of the time. For sure, for sure.
Starting point is 01:47:48 But I just let you five bucks. I won't, I won't bet on the exact. numbers but I bet you five bucks that Frinker has it better and and I'm I'm not as sure as possible as I was so but I will put five on it. That's fine. All right. I bet we all have fun. Yes. We'll have fun. I'll have fun. Five bucks. Peter Stone. If Robin is Batman is in Batman 2, then Batman and oh and Brave and the Bowl is less special. I think it depends which Batman, right? If you got if you got Dick Grayson finally and then you've got Damien Wayne then all the Robin fans finally get to eat. I think there's room.
Starting point is 01:48:23 I think there's room for a lot of Robbins. Let's see. Next one here. Come on. Come on. Good thing. There's a roster of them. A whole nest. D.C. U.C. U.S. Casual scroll. D.C. U.C.S. U.S. Arafirno for Harley and Bill Scarsguard as Joker. Dude. Dude, I want Scars Guard as Joker so bad. I think you'd be amazing.
Starting point is 01:48:44 It'd be great. Kevin LaGuardia. Great name. New comic reader jumping into all in recommend jumping BT series and reading issues and release order by ARCS. Koi, ever try reading manga? Thanks. I love that you're reading all in. It's a great jumping on point. I have tried reading manga.
Starting point is 01:49:02 It's not my sensibility. I love how popular it is. But just like with anime, there's a certain tone that doesn't suit what I enjoy. So I love that it's popular, not my thing. Okay. Busy B. Top three streaming services, in your opinion. I would say Apple, Max, and Netflix.
Starting point is 01:49:21 I'm going to go Apple Macs and Hulu. That's going to. Yeah. Hulu's got a lot of good originals right now. It's essentially Disney also at this point. True. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:31 I would go with Christian's version. Yeah. Jack Lewis. I personally want to see Henry Cavill play Zod in the DC. That would be so great. That'd be a fun, full circle moment. Also, it could be fun to lead to the received rivalry between Gunn and Snyder. I mean, instead of Zod, make him bizarreo.
Starting point is 01:49:46 I really make him ax for it. That would make him. Make him bizarrely one for enemy? Absolutely. But the Rick and Morty thing, I'd love to see more of that.
Starting point is 01:49:57 I love that they're doing stuff. Mirzum. I really want to see Supergirl. There you go. Next year, June. On Zoo, yo gang. If they do get Gosling for Ghost Rider,
Starting point is 01:50:06 he could be Danny Ketz, not blades, set in the mid, late 80s so we can get great music, like Iron Man 666. I hope that they do like what they do a fantastic for. Put it in a different place.
Starting point is 01:50:18 And I'd love an 80s tone. We've gotten 90s. We haven't really gotten a lot of 80s. I'd love that. Yes, me too. Armada, thoughts on Cameron saying he used all CGI to make the alien queen if he redid aliens. Now, I think it's crazy, but I use a hybrid of Prack. Who am I to say no, though?
Starting point is 01:50:32 It seems Cameron. I said whatever. I wanted to make a piece of a pretzel come alive and start dancing in the middle of Terminator. I'm like, fine, just do it. It's him. Hot take. I think the aliens holds up better than Avatar 1 does. Aliens?
Starting point is 01:50:47 the second. Yeah, like his alien movie. Pretty great. But I love the first avatar too, though. But, but Clipchamp Razor, I'm hoping for Mr. Fixit, Hulk and a gang war personally. We'll see. I think a gang war is likely. Yeah, it could be. It looks like it in the, in the streets. I don't know if that's from the Punisher
Starting point is 01:51:03 thing or from the new Spider-Man. Punisher's usually in the gang war storylines or a lot of the time. Connor Moll is. Serial. Captain Crunch's my shows. I was, magic mine was really good. I'm not magic mine. Magic spoon. It was really good. I don't eat cereal as much anymore. Christian will be fun or funny to see you play Marvel Rivals Live for all to start your inner gamer rate.
Starting point is 01:51:24 It would be funny. No time. Tyler B. When you guys see movies in big cities, is it in 4K? You should I mean, you should go to IMAX. IMAX or Dolby for me. And I assume there are at least 4,000 lines of resolution. Most one's going to be eight nowadays.
Starting point is 01:51:38 Yeah, like the laser projectors are crazy. Legend MM600. You guys look cool in black. Happy Friday. I think that's our new thing. You should do that. 91 right now. Connor Mullis.
Starting point is 01:51:49 I put a black shirt. Can I, no, 123 is what it is? 32 away. Yeah. I put a black shirt on to be cool like you guys. Thank you. Hey. Brooks. Hey guys, it's my birthday today. So in honor,
Starting point is 01:52:01 I'm a good day. I like to stir the pot. No, no, no. I'm not doing that. Armada. Happy birthday. Yeah, happy birthday. Anyway. Also, movies, Strange Harvest and Sketch with Tony Hill dropping theaters this week. Sketch looks a little bit like if from last year, both positive R2.
Starting point is 01:52:15 And thank you, Brooks, for the thing. We're just not, we're just not doing that. Also, movie, Stranger Harvest, sketch with Tony Hill drops in theater. Sketch looks a bit like I have from last year, both positive. I saw that Tony Hill thing this morning on, I was looking at when it was the gym, it was on the background. It looks interesting. Yeah, he did an interview on Daily Show, and I've heard great things about sketch.
Starting point is 01:52:39 Brandon Summer is sending in one more to make sure Rogue gets third place this week. It might happen. Let's say, Busy B. Are we at 100 yet? No, not yet. 92. 90-something. 92 at the moment. So, Connor, I think you missed my
Starting point is 01:52:53 Supertied about my bad kitty. I might have. I might have. I did. I'm sorry. What was it? Throw it in there and without the Super Bowl. I'll highlight it. Brett Sheridan. Look at this. I hate to get political, but is everyone subscribed to the Brett Sheridan? That was here for a week. Dude, I
Starting point is 01:53:12 I was so, I, I told Brett kind of be a text a little bit too. I was so heartbroken because I wanted, I just wanted to hang out with Brett in New York. Every time he's been here, he's just been like, you know, working on the studio. And I was like, okay, you know, he's going to come here. And I was like, this will be a little less for him to do. He's going to do stuff at my new place. I think I saw him for maybe a toll. He was here for six days.
Starting point is 01:53:33 I think I saw it total for like three hours. I didn't even see. He was supposed to come in the studio. I saw him. I was like, I'm like, now the, trying to even get him back here is going to be impossible. the fact he hasn't changed his number is crazy too Sun Tzu what gun does is fine if it works for Jerry Jones it does it work for Jerry Jones
Starting point is 01:53:50 Dick Smoker perfect what's more likely Superman 2 or Fantastic 5 Superman 2 yeah Joey Pedrus loving the new DC compact line of comics trying to stop myself from getting all them have you picked up any of them I have everyone there it's so it's like the like hush for example the whole run but in a slightly smaller like pocket size comics you can just
Starting point is 01:54:13 carry around. Yeah, done like manga yeah, they're exactly manga sized in eight bucks or something like that. Lucky my local theaters are always fuzzy. Oh, man. Oh, that's a bummer. Okay, let's see. Casual scroll, you guys hear my announcing, he's finally reacting to anime with Steph.
Starting point is 01:54:28 It's officially we got a voice. I mean, it was, we talked about it. I got to find out, you know, I got to find out what the legality is, apparently they're really tough on reactions for anime. So I got to look at that. You can still do it. You're just going to have to really stick to that seven second stuff hard.
Starting point is 01:54:44 You have a look. Mr. I crap and shits. Don't know about you guys, but I'm excited to see Alien Earth on Tuesday. A lot of reviews. I'm a huge Alien series fan. Even the bad ones.
Starting point is 01:54:52 Assembly cut of Alien 3 is good. It's my favorite show of the year by a lot. Alien Earth is so good. Okay, let's see. Hold on. Let me, I'm going to, Sam's here.
Starting point is 01:55:04 I'm trying to bust salmon. Hold on. Let me buzz it right. She's coming. We're doing. of the rings today but that was there's two more mr i crap and shits don't know about you guys i'm excited we did that already um you said and then Alex Ruelis what's your favorite superhero and super villain of all time superheroes probably Superman super villain's probably Joker
Starting point is 01:55:29 Hero hero Batman villain i'd have to think about it for a minute i think i think i think spider man and joker i think same villain i like joker a lot um okay let's say last one Brandon Summers says, what's the deal with canon? What's the deal with canon? Like in comics, in movies, in Nick's children? It's from Jurassic. I mean, I was from Jedi Council. Hold on, I'm going to put you guys, you guys,
Starting point is 01:55:59 I'm going to have an empty seat here for a second. Hold on. Yeah, yeah, no, all good. You know what? I think favorite supervillain, and this is just where my brain just got warped growing up, is specifically the Teen Titans animated series version of Slade, Oh, that's very specific.
Starting point is 01:56:16 It's very specific, but just because he was diabolical, bro. Absolutely diabolical. Sorry, the great Sam just showed up. So here, Sam cameo. Oh, Sam cameo. Samio. Samio. A Samio.
Starting point is 01:56:30 I'm going to do this. Hold on. Let me read. I'm going to transform this with the screen. And then I'll go here. Wait, on. Oh, Samio. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:56:45 Oh, my God. all of a sudden, all of a sudden, Christians feed just got beautiful. You guys are going to annihilate, you guys are going to annihilate them now and win the thing. So when we just,
Starting point is 01:56:58 yeah, we got an extra 10 minutes. What are you new to this? Yeah, for Sam. Sammyos are here. Uh-oh. So what happened?
Starting point is 01:57:09 I don't know. That's not a good luck. Yo, we got to get, we got to get blue tube back as a, as a sponsor. Yeah, yeah. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:57:18 Let me get back here. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Holy crap. Yo, D.S. I'm saying it's so big. A bunch of small ones. My guy were trying to win here. No, did you see Insiders huge Batman scoop today.
Starting point is 01:57:30 What was the bat? No, I did not see it. What was it? I think he said something about the Robin thing. I think he said Robbins and the Batman. Dick Smoker says that love is the answer. Do you agree to him? Is Dick the answer?
Starting point is 01:57:41 Or is the name of Dick? What's the most sinister super villain name? Big balls. Hey. Mr. Sinister. Yeah. Mr. Sinister. Yay, Sam.
Starting point is 01:58:00 Busy to be happy to have Sam here. Dick Smoker coming back in with love is the answer. The huge $50. Armada, I like that HBO Max is dropping the new movies on Friday. Christian's golden goose. Sam. 100%. We're watching Lord of the Rings today.
Starting point is 01:58:18 You fucking pumped or what? I bet I like this shit. That's all I'm saying. It is long. It is long. That's what she said. All right. So Julius White, is it time for Lord of the Rings?
Starting point is 01:58:29 Yes. We're watching that in just a second. All right, but we can't even. What up, Sam? What's up, guys? Damn. It was too late. If we had gotten her even like 15 minutes earlier,
Starting point is 01:58:40 we probably would have destroyed that record. I'm going to give you guys my number and I'll just tell me what to show. I appreciate that, Sam. I do see you. So happy to see you tomorrow, Sam. Yeah, Sean, I can't wait to meet you guys. Joey Pedra saying the answer is love. Gregory Deft saying, welcome, Sam, cheers.
Starting point is 01:58:56 Good humor raises all tied. It's right. Crapping shit, Sam, do you know how much Coy and Winston love you right now? No, seriously. I just. I know. I want you all to win. How many are we at?
Starting point is 01:59:11 Right now you're at 117. Oh, wait, wait, wait. We're so close. Yo. Let's go. Love is the answer. Keep telling everybody how much you love Sam. Love, Bob.
Starting point is 01:59:21 You guys rock. Love Sam. Forget that. So my boy some love. Come on. Oh, man. Mike and Roxy are going to be pissed. They were like,
Starting point is 01:59:29 they had you guys beat you guys beat. All right now, it's 116 and we're about to sign off. Oh. What we're getting these last two that are coming in? What's your favorite MCU experience so far? Not movie, but like experience watching it reacting. I think that watching the end game
Starting point is 01:59:47 was one of the most emotional. It was an emotional roller coaster for me. I didn't think that the MCU was going to make me so emotional at all. I thought I was just going to go and watch these movies and not be connected with anybody. Just watch a movie and whatever, whatever. And I am so connected to each one of those characters. Like I would go home and be like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:00:09 And like, it really took me for a whirl. I didn't expect it to for me to feel the way I felt about it. I feel like that makes me so happy. That makes me happy too. And the only thing that makes me laugh harder is Sam is so New York. Like the accent just pull it through. Oh, I can't hide it. I'm like, where you're from.
Starting point is 02:00:28 I'm like, bro, if you don't know where I'm from, we got problems. Well, they loved you before. And now they really love it because they've won at 1.30. 34. Yeah. Yeah. You, Sam, Sam, for so many reasons, you've become one of my favorite people on this planet, fam. Like, Christian show you my reaction to you.
Starting point is 02:00:51 Yes. Alex, support. Don Reinaldo. What's up, Sam? What's up? Joey Pedger, Sam, you ready for the live show? I'm ready and nervous. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 02:01:03 We got a crush. It's going to be great. Like crap and shits. Has Sam seen the aliens here? I think you've only seen, like, one alien, or you don't really remember? Like the look back in the day. You saw Romulus. Yes.
Starting point is 02:01:13 Yes. That was it. You don't remember it. Back in the day, like the long, long time ago one. You don't remember shit. I don't remember nothing. Connor Mullis, love is the answer. Yes, indeed.
Starting point is 02:01:21 Sam, Lord Monk. Gregory Dodd. I love this show. Thank you, Gregory. Mirjum. Support. Thank you. Tiptoe Cloud coming in.
Starting point is 02:01:29 Look at it. Alex Rollis on support. Sam is the answer. Casuals. Thank you, guys. Big balls tell Sam about Lord of the Rings. You know it, baby. I don't.
Starting point is 02:01:42 Tell about it. And she's going to love it. You little fucker. All right. So let's see. Sam is the answer. Big boss. What the holy hell?
Starting point is 02:01:54 It's Sam. The goat. It's Joe for show. Roger. What's up, Sam? Looking forward to those Lord of the Rings reactions. That's today. It's first one.
Starting point is 02:02:02 Today. I'm so excited. No sucius. None. No sucias, guys. You heard? Both of y'all. No sucias.
Starting point is 02:02:09 All right? She's even more lively than she is during. You got to do a live show this every day. I guess so. No shit. You've done something that no one in the world has ever done. You shut Koi up. All right.
Starting point is 02:02:25 Kelly, for support, let's go. Play it out. Agree with Koi. Hire more movie theater bounces. When was the last time that you went to the movie theater? I went to go see Stitch with my stepdaughter. And were people terrible in the movie theater, like behaving? The kids were actually crying.
Starting point is 02:02:42 crying. Okay. Aw. No, no, no, no, crying because of the movie. In a good way, in a good way. No one was acting up. I just think, you know, every 30 minutes, have someone walk through, and that way you'd like, you don't miss someone getting up to tell someone isn't going to happen.
Starting point is 02:02:55 But if you cycle through, it's a pot. Like, I think that's how we solved it. Someone thought you were Italian at first. No, Puerto Rican. Puerto Rican. Wait, you're Puerto Rican? 100%. Mom and dad.
Starting point is 02:03:05 Look at Listen. I'm a New Year Rican. I wasn't born there. I was born here. All right. I'm gonna figure out how to get to your 50th, Christian shit. I got to, I got. Tyler B. Sam, love, Eternals.
Starting point is 02:03:20 I knew I liked Sam. That's one of my, it is so slept on. She doesn't like that. Oh, I'm sorry. I still like saying. I don't like the complaint with Tyler, but I still like saying. That's what you most hated. What did you?
Starting point is 02:03:32 I hated She-Hulk. I hated Eternals. It was like three hours of my life. I never get back. Oh, my God. The Marvel. singing. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:42 We're on the same page there. I thought I was getting punked. Yeah. A fever dream in a bad way. Sam love the internals. Matt, will you and Sam see Spider-Man Foreign Theater? No, Sam and I talked about it.
Starting point is 02:03:52 Sam's going to see everything here. Oh, interesting. She avoids the, like, tell them what you told me the other day. When the commercials come on, like for the movies and stuff like that, I'll go, no, no, no, no, no, no. And I run away, and my kids are like, go, go, go, get out of here. Oh, they did. Sam for the win. Kingsport Cal finest frog legs.
Starting point is 02:04:14 There you go. She got to see Breaking Bad too. She says she just one episode. Yeah, that was it. One episode. Dick Smoker coming in with another. Brandon Semper says, I know. I'm in love too.
Starting point is 02:04:29 Look, you're breaking hearts here, Sam. Dick Smoker is coy. He too big? They're like crap and shit. Add Chris Carter this and you will not go off air. I'll tell you, Sam, when I'm running my freaking, you know, I got to do the Kickstarter for the pilot, which Sam's been very supportive of so far too. I'm going to, I'm going to have you on the show to help us because we got to, we got to raise money for the pilot. All right.
Starting point is 02:05:00 I was showing, don't say it out loud. I was showing them who we were potentially going to try to get. It looks like we have a good shot to get this person. Oh, I got to see your reaction to this. Look at this name right here. Oh, I'll say that. Oh, my dad. Oh, my dad.
Starting point is 02:05:32 But Sam's also not great with names too, which you see it. Terrible, terrible. Absolutely hilarious. All right. At Chris Carter, thank you. Winston's in trouble now, says Corn Emperor. Kenya King, my Puerto Rican booth thing, Sam. hilarious. All right. So,
Starting point is 02:05:50 damn, I'm sorry. It's okay. I don't think some people, some people didn't hear it. Everybody just get off. Okay, good. All right. I listen. The guys crushed 147. No, Sam crushed. All props to the Puerto Rican queen, man. Like, shit. No, stop doing that. Wait, what was that? No, every time he does that, I'm like, I'm a slapful, man. It's the best. All right, listen, we got to get the hell out of here.
Starting point is 02:06:18 Sam and I are going to watch a seven-hour movie. So it is, all right, thank you guys. Boy, Winston, Coy. Bye, guys. Enjoy your walk to Mordor. Find me on Instagram and YouTube at Coy Jondra. All right. Getting more Sam stuff as you guys are promoting.
Starting point is 02:06:31 Winston, go ahead. Add the swaggy blurred on all stuff. I'll be on tonight playing some rivals, y'all. I said screw it. All right, guys, thank you so much for being here. Thanks to Sam, thanks to Winston, thanks to Coy. You guys rule. We'll see you guys on the flip side.
Starting point is 02:06:45 See you. Have a great weekend. Fs. Bye.

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