The Kristian Harloff Show - MARVEL PHASE 4 RANKED Movies and TV I MCU | The Big Thing | Capes and Cowls

Episode Date: November 25, 2022

The Marvel MCU Phase 4 has officially wrapped up. There were a total of 18 films and tv show sin the phase and there were some highs and lows. What were the best? Where does Spiderman, MoonKnight, Loki, Wakanda Forever and more fit in? What was the best and what was the worst. In this special episode of Capes and Cowls, Kristian Harloff goes it alone and gives his ranking. We also welcome Boom Studios who give us the latest in their slate. Enjoy! #MCU #phase4 #ranking #marvel #wakandaforver THANK YOU TOO BOOM STUDIOS for sponsoring this episode. PATRON: http://www.patreon.com/thebigthingshow Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/ harloff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello, everybody. Welcome. Welcome back to the show. Welcome to the show for the first time. Hey, if you're brand new to the show and you've never been here before, before we even get started, subscribe. We've got a lot of stuff, long form, short form, all of it and more. I hope you guys had a great turkey day, great Thanksgiving. I hope we got the time to relax, spend some time with the family. If you don't celebrate it, I hope you just had a good day. I hope that's something that happened. So I thought Winston and Coy, they're off this week, obviously spending time with their family. and doing some stuff. So I was like, okay, what are we going to do?

I just finished the Guardian's holiday special. I was like, well, that's everything. That's everything in MCU phase four. I'm planning on doing it. I was going to do it earlier, but I hadn't seen that yet. So here we go. I got it. So I got everything that I've seen so far in phase four.

I put it all together in a big list and said, let's do that. That'll be today's episode of capes and cows and big thing. And yes, we'll be doing the boom comics as well. That'll be towards the end of the show. But I figure that'll be my, that'll be the show today. And you guys can yell and scream and tell me how much my list sucks. But we'll get to that in a second.

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there's a lot going on man I'm so excited to get into it let's rank these MCU movies or MC. Is it any movies? It's TV shows. It's the movies. It's all of it. It's the little specials. It's all phase four. It's capes and cows. It's me and you. And that's it's going to be our thing today. So let's get into it, everybody. Come on. Welcome back, everybody. It's going to be a good old conversation with me and you. And I want these comments section. I want it lit up. And I'm okay, by the way, if you guys are going to be disagreeing with the list. I don't necessarily think you can say something is wrong because it's my opinion. Not yours. But you can say you don't agree when I say a certain thing is not good or if I say a certain thing is great.

If I liked something, you can say, I didn't like it as much as you did, but I loved this movie and I think you're crazy that it's not ranked higher, but this is where I would put it. Love that. I think that's a great conversation. And you start, you know, yelling and screaming and this is, I'm just letting you know, if you found this video and you're looking to just kind of throw like hate comments and stuff too, you're barking up the wrong tree because you just wind up getting banned from the channel. And it's not, you know, what's the, what's the point? What's the point? I don't, you disagree all day long. Say everything sucks inside of the, inside of the, you hate everything about the, all of these shows and you thought it was all crap and here's the reason why and you, and you map it out.

Fair game. Have a blast. I'm all for it. But it's the holidays. It's Christmas, Theo. Not yet, but almost. So this is my list. It is going to be, I think there's like 16, I believe, total. It's like 16 inside of it. These are the Marvel Phase 4. All of them ranked. We're going to be all ranked. Phase 4. So these were all the things that punt. popped in a phase four, man. You got all of the TV shows and movies and all of it. So, what were the best? What were the best? What were the ones I liked?

Again, there are certain things that I just really enjoyed that I think, I remember even talking to people saying there's a certain movie that I liked way more than other people liked. There's a certain television show that I liked way more. And the best I can do is let you know exactly what resonated for me. And then I look forward to hearing. the conversation of whether you agree, disagree, and why you agree or disagree. So let's get into it.

Out of all the phase four stuff, coming in, dead last. At 18, I should say, not 16, 18. Thor, love, and thunder is number 18 for me. And it was back and forth. I was, this was almost 17. There was 17 and 18 fought for the stinkhole. They both fought for the stink hole. But Thor, love, and thunder for me was,

was the worst. I don't really want to go back and watch it. There's not much about it that I really enjoy. I think that I like it less and less the more. I think about it. I will go back and rewatch. I'm doing a rewatch on MCU right now anyway, so I will eventually get there. And who knows, maybe it goes into the 17 hole and hits some, an 18, an 18 goes to my 17. But either way, 18 is Thor, Love and Thunder because I just watched Ragnarok, and it is. And it is, even further cemented why this one goes down into the bottom because people are like, well, you don't like the comedy stuff?

Ragnarok is fantastic, and I watched it again. And it's a little jokey at times, absolutely, and it's a lot jokey at times, but it has a good balance to it and a good emotional core, and Thor still feels real. Thor feels like an absolute buffoon in this movie. He's not, he's like a Saturday Night Live character.

There's too much, by the time you hit the emotional stuff with Jane and the cancer stuff at the end, it's like a little, it's a little too late. Christian Bale is always awesome, and I just think that even his character, do you even see him kill any gods? And that's what he's supposed to be doing the entire time. And from the beginning of the opening scene

to what you're going to see in this movie of the gods that you get that are foppish and silly. And it's just Tycho Wattiti gun amok. And I love Tycho Wattiti, man. I do. I think that he's a great filmmaker. And I think he's really funny. And I think he's very creative.

I think he's one of the guys he stretched way too thin. And I think that he just wrote this movie with, like, laughing his ass off, whether he was stoned or not. I have no idea, but he didn't. This was not, this was a completely different movie. When you watch Ragnarok, very different. Ragnarok has a lot of strong, I just watched it last night. Strong emotional beats. And again, they try to do it, and it just comes too late with Thor Love and Thunder by the time you get to the end.

So that's why it hits so low and it hits number 18 for me. I'll watch it again. And it could change. It could change into the 17 because I haven't rewatched 17 because it just watched 17. And that's Shee Hulk attorney at law. And the only reason, the only reason that Sheeulk ranks over Thor is because essentially it has about an hour and a half more goodness than Thor does. And it's not fair because it's a television show as compared to a movie.

still nonetheless, what did I enjoy? And the reason why the first two episodes of She-Hulk worked for me, I enjoyed it, I thought it was talking, are you going to hear this word a lot for me in this list and you've probably heard it for me throughout the entire time I've been talking about these movies, is the pure balance of it. She-Hulk had a good balance for me in the first two.

I liked the idea that they were going to this Allie McBeal route, but I thought they were going to balance it with the Marvel tone, and it seemed like it had that in that first episode with Hulk in the way they were going to play it, and the way they were going to say, this is what she's doing in her life, but she's got to balance that with being a superhero. She's going to talk to the audience sometimes,

and we're going to have a good time with it. And then they just kind of pull the curtain so far back in that finale that it just completely lost me. I know some people thought it was really creative, some people thought it was really good. I thought in the first few episodes, the joke of going after trolls and everything too was great, but they let it dominate the series.

And the entire thing just became of us versus them, and it was just like why, it's like when people tell me if I, if I, someone says something that I bring attention to it, why are you feeding the trolls? That's all this show did for the majority of it. And it was, the joke was funny, okay, we get it, we get it, we get it.

And it's just beating you over the head with it and it lost the balance of, well, what's the MCU story? And there was none. The stuff that worked, though, was those first two episodes and the initial, the Daredevil episode when they brought him in. I thought that was another, that was when it actually felt, okay, this is the show I thought this was going to be. There's some funny humor in it.

I thought the stuff with him walking away and the walk of shame stuff. I thought it was funny. I thought it worked. But there was just so much that it was just way. It was so lost on me. And I thought that they just were, it felt like the writers patting themselves on the back for much of the show.

So that's why it was, it was because it had a little bit more, it had a little bit more than Thor. That's why I can mix and match them. But if tomorrow I watch Thor low in Thunder, I said, ah, that's not a bad. I can switch them around.

I wouldn't be surprised. So they're both, they're both in a low, a low spot for me. but that's why Shee Hulk attorney at law hits at number 17. So then 16 is Dr. Strange in the multiverse of madness. This is the theatrical film that came out. Now, I think this is a good Sam Ramey movie.

I'm not a big Sam Ramey guy. I have not rewatched this movie. This is another one I haven't rewatched yet, waiting for the rewatch of it. It just, it was my biggest concern with Ramey coming on to direct was that, is this going to be more of a Ramey movie, the same way I was concerned, is this is this going to be just a Tika Watiti movie, or is this going to be a Marvel movie that Tika Watiti directs,

or is this going to be a Marvel movie that Ramey directs? This is a Ramey movie that takes place in the MCU, and it's just there's so much happening in it that I think of the Eye Monster, I think of these certain things that the imagery that is, if you're a Ramey guy, like I've talked to so many Ramey fans who love it. If you're a Ramey person,

I bet you it's one of your, high-ranking movies of phase four, and I understand that. I have just been missing, I was missing that Marvel tone and that Marvel feel that caught me in the first few phases, and this wasn't it. There are some creative choices that I think work great, the music scene, when he's firing the things at it, it's just a bit that goes on way too long, but looks awesome, right? There's this stuff at the end when he's super creepy and he's dead and it's like, it's such a rainy thing, and I understand what people love it.

that Bruce Campbell stuff for the evil dead references really understood it. God, I think they spoiled the hell out of that, the big reveal with, you know, Reed Richards and Professor X. They spoiled it in the trailers, and it was one of the bigger moments. And then the saying that you didn't have to watch Wanda Vision in order to really latch on to this and understand it, I don't agree with it. I think you'd be a little confused. I think most people would be confused.

They didn't watch it because they don't understand why the hell Wanda is acting in a particular way that she is. is. So there's just a lot that's a little messy. Again, I could go back and rewatch and it feel differently, but the fact that I haven't wanted to go back and check it out since it came out on Disney Plus, I think speaks a lot. So that's why it ranks fairly low at number 16 at the moment without a rewatch for sure. Now 15. Black Widow. Now Black Widow, I think, is a fairly decent, well-made movie. And I caught it late. And as there's a couple of movies here that I for a reason I caught late and there was all the drama and everything else that happened. I think Black Widow's biggest problem is when it takes place and when it came out.

The when it came out part is not necessarily their fault because it was during COVID and they didn't know where they were going to put it out and how they were going to put it out and it was supposed to come out in 2020 and obviously things got set back. The story itself is fine. The chemistry is good. It introduced us to Florence Pugh. The problem is, and again, I hope that everybody at this point has watched all these things.

Otherwise, you're going to be spoiled throughout it. And you probably already have been in some of my previous picks. But the problem is, you know what happens to Black Widow, right? And say, well, you know what happens to Andor? Yeah, true. But they make it more about everything else going around. Now, you can say the same to make it about the family. It's a pretty black widow-centric story, which is fine.

What you want to see with Scarlett Johansson, obviously, and then the passing to Florence Pugh. But it's less about just knowing what happens to Black Widow. And it's the time period that it's set in. It's set in like during the Civil War stuff. And that's when it should have come out. It should have come out after Civil War leading into everything else. I think it was the right time to do it back then.

I think that, honestly, I think that Fagie was pressured way late. why he never did this, and he should have done it away earlier. They should have had a Black Widow movie. Scarlett-Jansson and Black Widow were one of the, she was one of the best, the best characters, and she was, and she owns this role, and she's great in the movie itself. I just think, again, speaking,

it was too little too late. Too little too late when the movie came out. It's not, it's, it has, what I will say about it, and what I want to be fair to the movie, is that it, when I, there's another movie that I'll mention, I don't want to spoil it yet, but there's another movie that mentioned that when I saw it,

I was like, okay, finally, this is a feel of the Marvel that I think was starting to get lost, and now it's back, and I'm glad to have that back. This movie had that feel. This movie had the Marvel feel. It just was not as intriguing because of, I think, the time period, and I think some of the choices with the villains

and some of the story choices themselves, but the feel and the tone and how it was shot, I think works in that aspect. But it was kind of like a forgettable movie to me. I didn't, and I really wanted to love it because I love Scarlett Johansson, and I love the whole cast. The whole cast is great. And it was great to have Florence Pugh, but that's why it ranks so low on my list. All right, coming in at 14, I am Groot.

These little shorts that came out on Disney Plus. Now, these are great. They're just little. They're short. They're short. So, you know, I don't know how far I can. put them up the list, but I felt good watching them. And from when they pop into the actual timeline itself, they pop into the timeline,

I think throughout the entire, after Groot's son, I guess, is what James Gunn said, pops into the story, and there's just these little vignettes that pop in. And there's cute, there's some great music in it. You can turn it if you've been a, boom, boom, boom. gone so good at the at the music choices but there's just little things i think that the perfect they're the perfect time they don't necessarily further on the mcc you but they further on the your love for grute and there's just it's you get a couple laughs out of them it's not it's not something that everyone's talking about because it's so it because it enriches it there's one time

that rocket shows up that i thought it worked really well but i think it just enhances your your your appreciation for grute and what um and and and why he's such an important character in Guardians, but it ranks low because it doesn't have a lot of significance and they're shorter, but I enjoyed watching all of them. All right, 13's Hawkeye. This is Clint's story. Kate Bishop shows up, and it's a show that has that Shane Black kind of Christmas feel to it. There is a lot here that works. There is a lot that doesn't. This was, the reason why it's higher up on my list, because the stuff that works really works for me.

I think that there's a great dynamic between Kate and Clint, and the idea that he just wants to get past all this, he wants to get back to his family, and he gets sucked back into another mission. And then here's like this young protege that he's got to work with the whole way through. And obviously with Vera Famiga in there as the mom and the performances and this, again, the Marvel stuff that they play off of works.

What Marvel stuff does not work, and that I got excited for was when Kingpin was announced. Oh, they bring in Kingpin, or not, when he shows up, I was like, oh, they're bringing Donofrio back. It's confirmed. He's back. This is amazing. This is not the Donofrio that we saw,

or Kingpin that we saw in the Netflix series, and I get it. It's a Netflix series. It's a hard R as opposed to, like, the PG-13 Marvel universe, but the character choices they had, he was just a they did him dirty man they did him dirty but the stuff that did work was that night like late 90s lethal weapon type of feel that they were going for again the shame black stuff i thought that stuff played i thought some of the humor was was dopey and some of the

emcee humor stuff that that loses me was when i like when characters feel like they would say certain there's certain lines that hawkeye says in a situation or that kate says in the situation and I think the humor works brilliantly. Then there's the stuff with the, with the, with the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, it's, it's so comical and it's, and it's, and it's, and none of them seem real, and they're all able to fight, and they're all, it's like, it's, it's like, it's dumb. And that's when, that's when, that's one, absolutely. And you just say, well, you're being a screw, do it. I understand. I get it.

I get it. I get it, I get it that it's a fun serious, like, for the casual viewer, I think this is a, this is a show that the casual viewers loved. My wife loved it. Love this show, right? I bet you my daughter when we, we finally rewatch it. And it's a show that I won't mind rewatching, especially during Christmas time.

I think it's a great show to rewatch a Christmas time. I think it's got that feel. It's not one of those ones that I'm going, oof, like some of the humor in Sheehulk, oof, some of the humor in Thor, most of the humor in Thor, ugh, some of the stuff in Dr. Strange. But this stuff, the humor was, I get it.

I understand why it's there. It's like, I wish they would further the story a little bit, but I get it. So that's why I read it. ranks where it does for me, but it hits the 13 spot. So it's a lot of stuff in Phase 4, man. And then 12 is what if. Now, what if is for me, I think that had Dr. Strange actually incorporated some of the

what if stuff, it would have played a little bit more for me. It was the first time that I felt like Marvel's set stuff up. And then throughout, throughout it, like didn't really, like, most of the time when you, when you watch the Marvel stuff, you're like, yo, no, no, you're going to get rewarded for watching this and here's a reason why what if set up all this stuff and then didn't i thought it was going to you was going to play some of the stuff that happened with ultron into dr strange and it's it's and it's not what it's going to do it's going to play into what if season two it's not going to play into any of the movies it doesn't seem like anyway but the stuff that we did see in what if was

really fun man and the stuff that i loved i loved the dr strange stuff i did rewatch it right before dr strange you know it was kind of worthless to do so i thought the people Peggy stuff was great. The zombie stuff was great. The stuff that I loved the most, though, was the Ultron stuff at the end and the way that it played with the watcher. I liked it. I think that that's what I said in the beginning of the video. I liked what if more so than other people. I'm always, like when the parallel universes and the alternate timelines, I'm always a sucker for that stuff. I was for everything. I just finished watching dark, and I love it. It's so incredible. I love that series. You've been watching on Netflix.

but this is but that's why I enjoyed watching these little pieces of what if and the and bringing back the actors, most of the actors, and the way that they did it and the way that they played in, they even had like Black Widow show up at certain times and and and the way that they used Peggy Carter and I really enjoyed it. I thought it was a very creative way to do it and it was a little bit pretty heartwarming and heartbreaking to hear the late great Chavik Bowman and so doing the voice of Tchala again. So the Thanos stuff was incredible. to see what Thanos would have been like as an actual good guy was interesting as well. So that's why it ranks pretty high for me at number 12. Okay. So then coming in at 11, Shung Chi. Now, I know some people are going to go, whoa, that's pretty low-ranked. I really like Shengchi a lot. I really thought it was a very well-developed character story and an emotional story

and does have that feel of the Marvel stuff that we've been talking about. So why is it so low? I didn't love the ending. I didn't love the ending. When they brought in Ben Kingsley, fun, they bring him back his character from Iron Man 3. It just,

the tone seemed to shift so much into this, like, fantasy world that it just didn't feel like it was introduced well enough. I don't know. It was just, it got chaotic at the end. I loved all the stuff leading up. I love the performances. I think and I can acknowledge that the biggest problem for me was I saw it too late after all the hype. I did not see it in the theater.

It's another reason that people said it was supposed it was a good theater watch. I watched it on Disney Plus. After it came out, I just remember being a little underwhelmed going, oh man, I think that this would put about probably been a movie that I should have caught in the theater because it's so grand, although I'm watching on a nice enough TV, but it's like, I don't know, I'm not as as locked in as I should be. I thought that there was stuff that worked, really worked. Like, really worked.

And like I said, I like this. I want to see so much more of the character. I thought the father-son dynamic was great. The sister and brother dynamic was great. I thought the stuff with Aquafina, I thought she was absolutely incredible in the movie. It's nothing really against performance. I think that for me, had the movie ended the way that the rest of the movie delivered on,

I think that this movie would have been way higher for me because I like it. It was still like a smaller scale martial arts film, which is the stuff that I thought was fantastic. And I was like, this is a great movie, man. And then by the time I got to the end, I was like, oh, they just kind of threw a whole bunch of stuff in there because they think people just want to see the big action budget Marvel pieces with the, oh, now there's a dragon,

now there's all that, now there's, oh, there's this, and people jumping and flying and kicking. And I get that, but it just took away from the small little martial arts film that was so intriguing. But really good movie. And do I want to see another one? Absolutely. I mean, 11 spot out of the 18.

I mean, that's a good spot. It's just not the top 10. So what's the top 10? I'm going to tell you. Top 10. Moon night. I know. I know this is going to rank,

this is going to rank way lower from most people, Moon Night. I've heard most people talking. Most people don't like the Moon Night. I'll say this, Moon Night is number 10 for me because the finale was not good. Not a good finale. I think there was, let's say there was seven episodes. I feel like there was more, but let's say there were seven. Six was fantastic and why it ranked so high for me.

It was a wonderful, wonderful tale of, I think, the character, but a representation of mental health and the idea of tragedy and how. And that's what this whole phase four has been all the way through. Every theme has, whether it's Shang-chi with the loss of his mom and even Dr. Shane's with the loss of his love. And it's lost throughout. It's lost throughout the entire thing. And the same is obviously the tale of Moon Night. And Moon Night, the balance to get to where we got to.

And the two understanding between the two characters of us, that Oscar Isaac plays. And Ethan Hawk, I thought, was a great villain, underrated villain. They don't talk about too much. A creepy, creepy villain. Walking on glass in the beginning of the thing. And I thought it opened up really strange, really eerie, really compelling.

And it lost its way a little bit, but I thought Conchie was fantastic. And F. Murray, Abraham, man. Come on. Come on. And I think that there was a lot of, it was a lot darker, scarier and I think that there were times that when they had to pull back and make sure it wasn't getting too dark, they threw in some of that, that humor and some of the silliness so it would balance it out a little bit. Sometimes the CGI wasn't great and I think that

that threw it off also, but it got me. And I think that the reason it really hooked me was that second, that pen ultimate episode. I mean, I thought that, I really thought that the last episode was really disappointing. And like I said, it would have been higher. up. But that last episode, I was so locked in on when he was discovering who he was, going into his mind. I thought that the hippo stuff was going to be absolutely ridiculous. It turned out to be incredible. It turned out to make a lot of sense. It looked good. And I thought Oscar Isaac's performance, even though it's a Marvel movie in the Academy or the awards people seem to turn their nose up at that or Star Wars. I think that Oscar Isaac should be looked at

at an Emmy for this because what he does and the two characters that he does play and the idea, the trauma that this character went through in order to create these two personalities and then ultimately taken by contrast, I thought the suit of Moon Night looked fantastic and I would like to see more of the character. So I think it ranks pretty high for me at number 10 obviously and I know there's going to be a lot of people who disagree, but such is life. All right, number nine, Ms. Marvel. It's another show.

Ms. Marvel was a show, and if you saw my lead up to Miss Marvel when I was looking at the trailers, I said right off the bat, I said, this seems like a show that I'm going to enjoy watching with my daughter. She's going to be 11 soon. And to me, it seems like a show that is geared towards her, and I don't know if it's going to resonate towards me. I see the Scott Pilgrim stuff, and that looks fun, but I don't know if this is going to be a show that is targeted towards me, and if I'm even going to really remember it too much. I was 100% wrong. It is a show that I didn't even wind up watching with my daughter.

She hasn't seen yet because she wanted to watch all the Marvel stuff. She's going to watch it later on. This is a show that just blew me away in a way that I wasn't expecting. And as I mentioned before and as I mentioned, I continue to mention, the stuff that I love is the balance, right? And the balance is all over this show. And it was the way that they played in and the way that they, so here's like the difference.

it became this show and Shea Hulk. Shehawk basically goes, oh, look, there's a writer's room, and the Marvel, it's not real. So all this stuff you're watching, it's not real. So just to let you know, it's not real. I don't mean a little, well, Derey, a Deadpool does it too. A little bit. But Miss Marvel throws in all these things and the stuff that she loves about it

and the comic cons and playing like these little jokes within the community, but still within her world. that I thought really worked and I thought that the Imman Velani who plays Kamala she is so good and so charming

and I'll make the prediction right away she's going to be the star of the marvels she's going to be the one that stands out out of the marvels absolutely she's going to be she is a star and you could tell right away and what I loved about this show was not even like the stuff in how it was going to play in is always the question how is it going to

play into this theme that they set up and how they set this up since iron man one and how they can continually keep you interested and keep this through line it's always there but it wasn't the important stuff in this was it a factor and how she got her powers and how she was able to do this absolutely but it wasn't the star of the show the star of the show was family the star of the show was the dynamic of and culture like not knowing the Muslim culture as much and learning more about it and doing it in a way that maybe, you know, you have perceptions that they, they're inviting you in and letting you know and teaching about, about this family that is this American family that is teaching you their culture, but also just the dynamic of a normal

family and what they're doing and how they are dealing with their teenage daughter and other things that they're, it just, it just really worked. It was warm. And with, and I just think that performances all around the board. It was just a pleasure to watch. And I, and, and what the only, not the only but my biggest criticism with the show is as I mentioned with the Scott Pilgrim stuff they leaned into that with that style up top and I look this is going to be fun and then they kind of bailed on that for a little bit and say well what's what's the style and I like the style that they ultimately found with the more so again it's it's it's more just a like a kind of a family drama type thing uh dromedy I would say um but you know they

they stayed away from that Scott pilgrim stuff shows up for like two or three episodes and in it bells. But I liked what they did. I liked how they explained her powers. I like that they basically teased that she was a mutant inside of it, the little X-Men nod. So I really found myself enjoying Miss Marvel very much so, and that's why it's so high at number nine. All right, then we hit number eight. And that's the Eternals, man. I know. I know. This is low. This is low for a lot of you. This is low for a lot of you. I know it is. But there is something about me. I really like Chloe's out a lot. I like what she did with just directing in general.

But this was one of those things and it's a bit hypocritical. I understand. I thought that Taika Watiti had his own style. They made it a Taika movie. I thought that Ramey made it a Rami movie. Chloe's out obviously made it her movie. But I don't see, I don't even know if I would say that. People keep saying that to me and I think that I'm starting to regurgitate that.

I don't think I feel that way. I think that I feel like her style is definitely here, but it still felt like a different type of Marvel movie. It felt like it was definitely more serious. I understand that the ending was a bit sloppy, and I think that's fair, and it's long. It is, but there's so much to me that works, and I, I'm really looking forward to rewatching this one.

I'm really looking forward to rewatching it, and I think that the one, there were so many great performances, isn't it? But the one that stood out the most for me that I thought I was going to be the most critical of was Angelina Jolie. Because Angelina Jolie is like a massive movie star. She's just a massive star in general. It's hard to look at her and think of anything else. She blends into the background. She doesn't have to take over in this movie. And I loved her story overall. And I loved the twist of it. And I loved how they had to play it and you had to see what was going to happen,

how it was going to work, how they worked with Kit Harrington, how they made him kind of play into it. He wasn't supposed to be a big part of it. He shows up at the beginning and the middle of the end. but the way that they make it make it all work and it's gorgeous to look at and it and that was when I did see in the theater and I just it's a really beautiful beautiful film but I want to see more of the Lauren Barry Keegan I always say it wrong Kagan people tell me all the time you're going to tell me in the comment section how I pronounce this wrong I'll listen to it I'll say it out loud and then I'll forget it so have a blast but but either way I thought he was I thought he was really good one of the best parts in the movie but I like

I liked the Eternals, man. I really did. I think a lot of people have ranked this one low. It is one of the lowest rotten tomatoes score. Not for me. I thoroughly enjoyed it. And I thought that it played really well. So I don't know.

I know this is going to be the one that everybody doesn't agree with me on for sure. But that's okay. This is my number eight at Eternals. The Sprite was really good. I mean, the whole, all everybody, just that whole crew, it worked. All right, seven is one of the more recent ones, and that's Wakanda forever. Again, people are going to go, I mean, seven, there's 18 of them in a seven,

that's high. But people are going to say, why is it so low? I give you my criticisms if you watch my review, and the criticisms why it's lower. Seven's pretty high, but lower. And the reason why is for the length of the film, the Ironheart stuff doesn't work for me. I thought that was forced in there. I thought the stuff with what's his face was forced into. Martin Freeman, I thought you could have used him in a different capacity.

I thought Mbaku could have been used more. But the stuff that did work, it made me take a breath and go, okay, so this is the Marvel stuff. This feels like a phase three movie. This feels like that emotion and that balance and that pure kind of, it felt like a really, a really good story, a good way to introduce Namor, a great way to kind of pass the mantle. I thought that for what Shuri had done, I thought for what they were dealt with with the loss of Chadwick Boseman,

the emotional beats of this movie are just very powerful all the way through. The music is just, I mean, outstanding. And your move, Angela Bassett's performance, I think that she should be nominated, again, because it's a Marvel movie, maybe not, but I think she should absolutely be considered. I thought that people would,

What people don't realize is that this movie was turned around so fast in where they were supposed to release it, and Chadwick passed away or started to work on it. Chadwick passed had to rewrite the whole thing, figure out how to make it work, get it into production, shoot it, get it out. And they did it. And for the amount of time that they had, I think that they really pulled it off. And Ryan Coogler is an absolute master filmmaker.

He's awesome. He's really a great filmmaker. and I'm interested to see where they go with it. I think they set up a great post-credit scene. And again, if you're watching this enough, you've been spoiled. So the post-credit scene with Tachala's son and also in Akkoje and the stuff that she, her and her dynamic was story. I mentioned earlier the humor and the way humor plays out.

That's the type of humor that works for me. And that's the kind of balance, like the characters that worked where you have a Koye in these ridiculous outfits. She doesn't want to wear these suits. She doesn't want to do this stuff. And it's consistent all the way through. And I think that minus 15 minutes too long. And a lot of people don't feel that way. But minus 15 minutes is a really, really good movie. And I'm looking for it. And I say it, and I still say it. I'd like to see Ryan Kulgar do something else because I love Ryan Kulger. Just want to see his voice. But I want to see Black Panther go on. I want to see how they're going to continue this story. I want to see where

Namor goes. I want to see if that gets connected to doom at all. because of the comics connection between both Namor and Doom. But I thought it was a great setup. And I thought it was a great way to essentially end Phase 4, even though they said this is the last movie inside of Phase 4. It's not the last thing that came out in Phase 4, but it's the last thing inside of Phase 4 as far as a film goes. But I really enjoyed it.

I liked it a lot. And I think that for what they did, they should, I mean, this is, they should be applauded for how they did it. the bonding together of both the cast celebrating the loss of their friend and colleague in Chadwick Bozeman and obviously in the characters celebrating the loss of their and honoring the loss of their king in Tachala. I thought it was a really, really well-made movie, and that's why it hits so high for me at number seven. So pushing into number six,

Weirwolf by night. In no world. In no world, if you were telling me that I was going to make this list, at the beginning of the year, like, Weirwolf by Night, which I had never even heard of. I didn't even know about it until I was D-23. D-23 shows up. I was sitting next to Coy Jandro,

and that trailer pops up, like, not for me. That's not for me. That is, I said, this is tailor-made for William Bibiani. This is not for me. This is old-school monster-making stuff that they're just going to try to capture it and are not going to be able to capture it because that stuff just doesn't work anymore.

It's a reason why it worked. Wrong. Absolutely wrong. Michael Jekino shows that he cannot only compose 7 billion different other things. He can direct and he can direct well and he can put together a really compelling story inside of the MCU that doesn't even necessarily have to be inside of the MCU. This is that what I was talking about before where this doesn't necessarily further, this is like a side story inside of the MCU. And who knows, maybe certain things pop up down the line, but it, it, it, it introduces more so, or continues on the supernatural element inside the MCU, but it gets a little graphic at times, it gets a little scary at times. It's a great Halloween watch, and it's really well made.

The black and white works perfectly for it. You're a frickin' mosquito. And I was so surprised how much I loved it. I really was. I was like, I was raving about it. And I was like, and I didn't want to stop watching it. I had to stop. I had to pause it for a second because I had some work to do.

and I was like, oh my God, I don't want to stop it. Oh, my God, I know I turned to John Travolta, but it was one of those things where I was just, I love being pleasantly surprised. And if you pleasantly surprised me with really good filmmaking, really good storytelling, really good music, you're going to pop high on my list. And that's why that did that at number six.

And speaking of popping high on my list by surprise to me, and number five is the Guardians of the Galaxy holiday special. Recency bias, maybe. but I wanted nothing to do with this. I wanted absolutely nothing to do with this. I was like, oh, come on. What are we doing? We're doing a Gardens of the Galaxy holiday specialist

is going to be just like Guardians of the Galaxy too, which, by the way, I went back and rewatched and have a totally different opinion on it. If you watch me long enough, you hear me kind of shit on that movie every five seconds that I can. My biggest problem was a lot of the criticisms that I have for Thor, Love and Thunder,

I think I wrongly put towards Guardians, but I will say this. Do I love Guardians of the Galaxy 2? No. Do I appreciate it a lot more than I did beforehand? Absolutely I do. Because I think that there's a lot of stuff that really works inside of that movie. The Yandu stuff, the emotional stuff with Quill and his dad, I like, even though I still think that everybody gets a joke sometimes,

and I think it's James Gunn to me, and I stick by what I always said. There's some really funny jokes. James Gunn's hilarious. But there's sometimes where he sacrifices the moment for the joke. I still feel that. I think that's the entire Thorloven Thunder. But I think that there's less of that in Guardians than I thought recently. There's some things that I think that feel a little kind of corny in it

with some of the aliens that are chasing them in the ships and they're playing like basically playing video games and fun enough. But it's nothing to do with the holiday special except the fact that I was like, okay. And I just watched Guardians 2 again. So I'm like, all right, I'm going to go. into this differently. When I saw the trailer for this, now I had not rewatched Guardians too. So I went into that going, all right, what are we going to do? Yeah, I love the suicide squad. I love peacemaker, but why are they making this? And I thought it was animated. I thought

it was an animated series. I didn't know anything about it. So I saw the trailer. And when I initially saw the trailer, I remember I was like, I was doing Campia show. And I saw the trailer. And I was like, okay, so we're just, this is a goofy thing. And inside of my head, I said, shut up. Shut up. This is not supposed to. This is not the same thing like Thor where it's Uber connected. It's supposed to be a fun Christmas special. Watch the trailer like that. So I went back and I watched the trailer again. I said, okay, I get what they're going for inside of this trailer. I wonder how the special is going to be. And then I watched this special. It's funny. It's warm. It's uplifting. It is, it's a great way to, to further the character,

of both Mantis and Drax. Basically, Quill has had, and they do blend animation, and it's a great kind of old school animation that they start with. It reminds me of being a kid of the kind of animation I saw as a kid. Starts off of why Quill had this bad Christmas with Yondu, and then it shoots into basically Mantis, and this is all in the trailer, Mantis, and Drax saying, okay, let's go kidnap Kevin Bacon.

The way that they incorporate Kevin Bacon, the way that they play it inside the MCU, the stuff. There's some really funny stuff. There's a line that, and I mentioned this in my review, that Nebula says at the end of this thing, and I laughed so hard at it, and it was because I was all so connected. It wasn't one of these things. I'm like, okay, just joke, joke, joke, joke,

okay, that was funny. I was like watching it. I felt like a little kid watching it. I had so much fun watching it. I was locked into the adventure that I were telling. I was locked into the story. I believe the story. I believe the characters. It was like 45 minutes. It's got that great camaraderie between the guardians, the way that they play stuff. They show Groot now that he's a little bit more grown. And it's sweet.

It's a sweet little story for a 45-minute story. And it's absolutely, and it's got the benefit of being 45 minutes. So it's got a leg up on a lot of these other things. It's like, okay, it's 45 minutes and it delivered, so it's strong. So that's why it ranks so high. And that's why, again, for me, at number five, the Guardians of the Galaxy Hall. holiday special. I, again, would have never in a million years have told you that those two things were going to be in there. Yeah. So I just, I really, really, really love this and I hope you guys

got a chance to see it. Number four is Falcon and Winter Soldier. Now, this is about as marvel to me as, as it gets. And I think, and I know that I, and I was shocked when I saw, I did see a bunch of criticisms for it throughout the, well, throughout the run and then even after when people were ranking it, they don't have it that high. I've always liked the camaraderie and the chemistry between Falcon and Bucky. I think that the fact that the relationship, the way that it's built, the way that they've gotten stronger as friends, the way that the idea that Sam wants to earn and become Captain America as opposed to just Steve handing it to him.

I think that the way and he does throughout this entire show, the mission that they have to do, the brutality of the, and that idea of going back into, even going on a rewatch when you look at what the scientist says to Steve Richards and it's like not every soldier can, or whatever the words are. It's like you got to be pure at heart to be able to do this also. It just doesn't matter just if you're a good,

a good fighter, good soldier, because obviously John Walker. Is that his name? I think that's his name. That doesn't play. It doesn't play. And that formation of the introduction of Julie Louise Dreyfus and how she's going to play into this whole thing

and more of the enhanced. That was the biggest criticism of it. It was like, okay, more enhanced people. How many times we're going to do the enhanced thing? But the way that they played it and the exhausting thing I keep bringing up, of the balance of it, I think really worked. It fit, and it felt like it fit inside of Marvel, and it continued the story of these guys that I both have been following

since both Winter Soldier, you know, when they both were introduced inside of that, inside that second cat movie, and the way that they play, and the way they play into all of it, and the idea of really the first super soldier, when, when, who was a black man who was basically tossed to the side by the government because of the color of his skin and the idea of this conversation that that Anthony Mackey has with them. It's a very powerful scene and it's a very relevant scene and I thought it worked really, really well. And I was really surprised that the show itself didn't play more, that didn't get more word of mouth or more time.

I know it did well. But I think for a lot of people, when you hear about all the shows that have come out, people aren't talking about that one as much. but I loved it. And it really makes me look forward to Anthony Mackey's version of Captain America. And I thought they played the way that they kind of handed him at the end and what Bucky's going through all the stuff that he's done in his past that he can finally start to kind of move on. So that's why it ranks high for me.

I thought I had a lot of good emotional moments. All right. So here's the top three, man. Top three coming in at number three. Loki. Loki hits number three. now Loki was my number one show for a while

and it was high up there for me on the phase four and it still is and I probably once I do a rewatch it'll probably be even higher and it's the introduction really the first time we ever see Kang and I think it's going to be so relevant down the line with Jonathan Majors and I've gone back and rewatch that scene a few different times but as I mentioned earlier time travel

the changing time alternate universe is like you're always going to get me with that, introduce and bring back Tom Hiddleston in a way that it's not like just like a cheap like, oh man, they brought back Loki again. How they reason have been back so many different times. It's not the Loki. That Loki's dead. He died. This Loki, they got him in a different time period. And now he's got to figure this out that the, I thought the buddy cop stuff that they did in this rivaled what they did with Hawkeye. I thought both Owen Wilson and Tom Hiddleston work really well together. I thought that the female Loki, male Loki having their thing, and I thought that could have gotten a little hokey with all of the different Loki's at

one point. It didn't. It played really well. It could get confusing to the casual viewer. I'm not sure. I wound up really locking into it. I look forward to seeing it again so I can really pay attention to it, especially right before Loki season two. It's a great way to utilize Loki, but I also thought that was directed really well. I thought that it didn't look like a TV show. I thought at times it looked like a movie. And I think that it just, it was charming and it was clever and it was very sci-fi oriented. And that's why it's right up my alley. And that's why it ranks so high for me at, at number three. Number two, talk about things that I just didn't see coming. And that's Wanda Vision. Like, that's why I always

hope. I hope that if you know me well enough, and you've been with me well enough, that I can admit when I watch something, if I see a trailer, I'm not stubborn. I'm like, if I, I think a lot of people do that sometimes. And I always told myself I would not do that. If I see something, I see a trailer and I think this is going to stink. And I scream from the heavens, scream to the heavens. I can't scream from the heavens just yet. But I scream to the heavens saying how much it just looks like it stinks. I can't, I don't want to do any, I don't have anything to do with this thing. And then I just crossed my arms and I go, I'm going to hate it even if I, even if I, even if I like it. Well, I can't say that about this show because I loved this show.

Loved this show. And I was like, who, I remember talking to Winston, A. Marshall going, I don't want to, I don't want to watch this show. This show looks terrible. It looks like so gimmicky. It looks so cheesy. This whole thing's going to be like Lucy for the whole season. It wasn't. By the end of that, it's funny because I didn't like the first episode.

I love the first episode now, but I didn't love the first episode when I was watching. it. I'm like, this is what I was worried about. It's just hokey crap. They just want to go so different now and they want to just change the game so much. It is going to do it. Now it's going to be a sitcom thing, but it was relevant. It was relevant to what was going on. And it had this like kind of lost feel to it at the end. And it was a bit, it was eerie. And it showed, you know, as I mentioned with Moon Knight, this, this, this, this, this, this, the obstacle of loss and the obstacle of the loss with vision for Wanda and putting herself in this place where she just was trying to live this happy life

and creating these children, which ultimately leads into this Dr. Strange thing why I think it's absolutely bizarre that they say you don't have to watch Wanda Vision to watch it. You don't get the full feel of her tragedy of what she's trying to do by creating this town. And then the whole thing with playing with Agatha

and this show just builds, builds, builds. By the time you get to that season finale, it's like, yeah, this is, this to me is the perfect blueprint for a Marvel show. Here's our premise. Here's what we do. We're going to throw elements of this. We're going to make it feel like a sci-fi.

We're going to make it feel like this or drama or a little bit of horror or thriller. But then what we're going to do is we're never going to let you forget. You're watching a Marvel show. And here's what you like about the Marvel stuff. You got it. And I think a lot of the other show, Shee Hulk in particular to me, when like, oh, no, we're just, we're pure comedy. Every episode, we're episodic. And watch this.

Watch this crazy thing. And it's like, but you lost the reason why you got an audience in the first place. and that's because they like the Marvel stuff that you were doing. Wanda Vision does not forget about that. Wanda Vision plays into that the entire time, and it introduces so much, and it's the first kind of recognition of phase five, excuse me in a phase five, of the snap,

the first recognition of the snap where Rambo's daughter comes in, she has this entire moment where she's in the hospital and it picks up. There's just so many great moments throughout it. This is one I cannot wait to rewatch because right now my daughter and I just finished by the time I'm recording this. We just finished Ragnarok. We just started Black Panther, so she's about to get her butt kicked with Infinity War and endgame pretty soon. But then we start into phase four really soon, right?

And that is what I'm interested in a rewatch. I've rewatched the other phases before, and I know what I've liked before, the stuff that I have and the stuff we're talking about right now. I'm curious on how it plays on a rewatch. But that's why, to me, Wanda Vision, and the stuff Paul Bettney does inside of it and the heartbreaking finale, this is a really great show. It really is a fantastic show.

It was a great telling and a great performance by Olson. I thought she was so, so good in this, and I loved it. But I think to no one's surprise, you're going to be able to guess what number one is, and that would be Spider-Man, No Way Home, coming in at the number one. one spot. Now this one I think was one of the ones that I was hyped about thought could be great. Thought would could, if it was good enough, could be the number one spot, one of my favorite Marvel

movies. And it was. I think it was not a massive surprise that they were, the way that they were going to do it with both Toby and Andrew Garfield. There's a lot of rumors around it, a lot of curious, a lot of wondering. But they did it and they made it work and it wasn't just a gimmick. And they made it relevant to how the story itself and the way that they played it in. I loved what they were able to do by essentially making every Spider-Man movie with both Toby McGuire, Andrew Garfield, and Tom Holland, essentially MCU canon. And the way that they were able to do that and play that together. And the heartbreaking, it's one of the biggest losses inside of the MCU is when we lose Aunt May.

I think the Marissa Tomey scene to this day is, it's one of the most powerful scenes. And I think that it's going to, it's going to devastate my daughter. I'll tell you that when she's watching it. But the stuff that Tom Holland does and the way that he reacts to in the conversation that the three of them have. And again, loss was, he's got to lose both MJ and Ned at the end in order to sacrifice. By bringing in Alfred Molina and Willam Defoe again. It's just one of those movies that just, it's like, it's one of those master. magical movies that doesn't happen often.

And it was the reason why it was as big of a movie as it was. People were hyped, obviously, for the particular return. But it was also the way it was executed. The music, the score was fantastic. I believe it was Chikino. I might be wrong, but I believe it was Chiquino. But it just is a very, very strong film. It's one of those movies that sets into motion the next evolution of Spider-Man

with all these rumors of Tom Holland, now coming back of signing a three. year deal and the idea of the kind of more of an adult Spider-Man now, all the loss that he's gone through, the stuff that they've played. I loved it. I love this movie. I watched it again, not too long ago, but this is another one. Can't wait to see again. So that's it. That's my rankings, man. Those are, that's, I'll go through it once again. We'll drop them down here in a second. We'll just start from, we'll start from the top here. Number 18 is Thor, Love and Thunder.

17 is Shee Hulk. 16 is Wanda Vision. 15. Black Widow. 14. I am Groot. 13. Hawkeye.

12. What if? 11. Shung Chi, Legend of the 10 rings. 10. Moon night. 9.

Ms. Marvel. 8. Eternals. 7. Wakanda. Black Panther. Wakanda forever. Six.

Werewolf by night. Five. Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special. Four. Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Three. Loki. Two.

Wanda Vision. And in the number one spot for Phase 4 Marvel movies, Spider-Man. No Way Home. That's my list. So I'm very curious what you guys think. How much of it did you agree with?

How much of it do you disagree with? I would love to see your list. This is what every time. we do a list on this channel, all people put together the list and they put everything that they rank in there. I love looking at them. I love commenting on them. I love to see what you guys are or what you thought about it. Please. And this is, I want to reiterate this. As I said in the beginning of my my video, please, please, please, if you disagree with anything that I have in there, I want to hear why. I want to hear why in a respectful way in a conversation. The same way

that if you and I were sitting together having a beer, having a cup of coffee, having some grub, having a slice of pizza, you know, any of that. I would love to hear your thoughts on it. Speaking of that, by the way, I'm going to play something for you guys. And this is for big thing, this is for big thing, listeners. So you guys have known, I've talked about my buddy Richard before on the show.

And I do, hey, you know, listen, I've got to be honest with you. You know, Mrs. Garrett was, was running around the chat not too long ago. So my buddy sent me video of Richard. I'm not going to play the video because I don't want to, you know, I haven't, I don't want to expose who he really is and everything to. I don't know. He's a family man. I don't necessarily know that he wants to be out there.

But what I do want to know is you're going to hear his voice. And I want you to let me know if you think that, you know, I'm a little, if it's at least in the same range. Here it is. Hold on a second. I knew I shouldn't have brought you, Lord. I knew it. How's everyone feeling?

That's me, listening. Yeah, this is me talking to him. Yeah, what are you throwing? Come here, Rachel, take your hand, though. He's going to a bar and a hamptons. Here we go. Hostella, my God. Yeah, right here.

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I hope you had a wonderful holiday. And let's get into it, man. Let's get back into the week next week. Brett's back. Roxy's back. Corey Winston. Everybody's back. So let's get it.

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