The Kristian Harloff Show - Marvel Studios "Discussing Options" regarding Jonathan Majors as Kang

Episode Date: April 15, 2023

Come see us live in person April 28th in Burbank http://www.thekristianharloff.com Jonathan Majors has been in the news regarding legal issues. Reports are still going around trying to find out what occurred. A new report from Jeff Sneider says that Marvel is discussing options of replacing Majors as more details come to light. Will it happen or not and what happens if it does? New pictures of Michael Keaton as Batman, new casting in Blade. Batman Brave and The Bold might have its director. Green Lantern has a TV show coming out and ComicBookMovie made a list on who they think could play Hal Jordon. We discuss that list and more. Join Kristian Harloff and Kristian Harloff on Big Thing Capes and Cowls. #Kang #Marvel MCU #DC #batman  MANSCAPED: http://www.manscaped.com/bigthing CODE: BIGTHING 20 percent off! ATHLETIC GREENS: http://www.athleticgreens.com/bigthing  @drinkAG1   CARBON HEALTH: http://www.carbonhealth.com OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-big-thing-kh-channel?ref_id=27393 FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1KPH42T0TP0PG?ref=cm_sw_em_r_un_un_djbxgIW5ZQMMg SCHMOEDOWN ARCHIVE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMovieTriviaSchmoedownArchives Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/harloff Become a Patreon of the Schmoedown: http://patreon.com/schmoedown OTHER GREAT CONTENT: REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT368qY7sfE0nKE4c04CqGvu TV REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT1LU-t2Z9AD5UJDiWW4pS_E STAR WARS SHOW https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT0XmfpbblkF9PY7uO2qhbN6 THE BIG THING PODCAST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT3KAwbzDsv6mdR-gwUiydQg

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There's a big story going on on comic book movie about Jonathan Majors. They have reports that he might be getting replaced as Kang. We're going to get into that. We're going to talk about, you know, we're going to kind of dive into the report itself. Do we think it's true? If so, how will Marvel handle it? All that and more. the boys had

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we'll put it up on Patreon and, or not Patreon, the website. And if you haven't checked out the website, the Christianharoff.com, we got tears and everything there too. And so you can buy the tickets. It's going good. We got a lot to talk about. Yeah, man. It's been a big week. It has. You know, the first thing we can talk about, I guess, is let's start off light. And let's talk about the Marvel's trailer. It releases, it's essentially the same trailer that we saw at D23.

And it's got all three of the ladies kind of shown what the story is about. It's a teaser, to be fair. And we had like a text thread, the three of us from talking about kind of what we thought about it. You liked it. Yeah. Winston loved it. Yeah. I thought it was...

For one, the middle one. I know. And I thought... I mean, I thought it was... Here's my thought with it. It's... To me, it's all... And I think we all agreed on this.

It is all reliant on the chemistry of these three actresses. Yeah. If they... And from what it looks like, it could be incredible. It's that, plus the writing,

like anything else, needs to be good. The directing needs to be significantly better than the Captain Marvel directing. Which I already thought was. That's what the first thing I noticed, like the first thing I said in the thread was she's got this really cool style of, like, playing with spirals and like pushes, and you feel that in the trailer, and it's only

two minutes. And if all of that delivers and end the other positive, they moved it to November, brilliant move. Yeah. If all of that happens, then it can be a really good move. You're going to have people that, the people you've been dealing with on Twitter, are just going to hate it to hate it. Right.

But there is that authentic concern that you and I have been. have seen from whether it's Dr. Strange 2, Thor. The comedy balance, man. It's hard. Yeah, Ant Man. It's like these, it's the balance plus the fact

is the structure and the format getting a little repetitive and tired. Right. And this movie could also suffer from that. And it's going to be a really hard movie to navigate talking about because not liking it doesn't make you a misogynist inherently, but misogynist are inherently not going to like it.

So it's going to be really hard to navigate the conversation around. Yeah, so it's going to be hard because like I don't love Captain Marvel one and I it's in my bottom three like I don't like it. I don't watch that one when I do my rewatches But I have to quantify why I don't like it in such a more delicate way because what it represents is important and what it represents is Necessary doesn't make it good So it's gonna be really hard with this sequel which is you know three women and a team of women and women of women and women of different types of lives Woman director and a very like I love this woman director but it doesn't give a free past. So what I was doing online was like, you know, trying to get ahead of that, but everyone interpreted, but the wrong people interpreted it as like, oh, I'm this because this, and it's

that we're going to have to deal with that whether we like it or not. So I'm already preemptively navigating what disgusting it is going to be like because if it's not good, I want to be able to say that. Right. But it's going to be a different language in saying that. But I think it will be good, but I don't want people to assume that we're thinking it's good because of when. Well, that's also why I made it clear of the two things that I just said up top here was that if it delivers on good writing, good directing, and it seems like a no-dove thing, but like and chemistry between the three women, then it could actually be a really good and fun movie like they're going for. The issue and concern I have has nothing to do with the fact that they're women. It's the concern that it could be three men. It could be anybody that the structure looks.

the same and that's what's been tired with Marvel over the last couple of movies. And they haven't had the time to restructure to buy this one. Like when they're doing all of these remanoverings, when they're doing, you know, they're setting up blade. They moved it. They're like after after the marvels, I think there's a gap until like summer. Their game plan can change. And they've, this is still part. This is still part of the game plan. So they were like, oh, comedy and all this stuff kind of is working. And it's not working as much. So that's not to say though that you can't edit something in a different tone. We're like, hey, we got a different, we have a different, we We have, you know, we had this and it played a little bit more comedic.

Pull this take. But we had a couple of tapes that actually could play this way. Like, I was watching, to no one's surprise, Pretty Woman when I was out with COVID. You know, that movie, and this is relevant to this conversation, that movie was originally, I don't know how much you know about it, but it was actually, it was a drama, a really serious drama. No, neither. At the very end of the movie, like, it was before it was bought from Disney, she was, he basically, leaves her on the street and it's like a drama and like yeah and it's like more about drugs and

everything too but their chemistry is so strongly changed it well no Disney picked it up and turned it into a romantic comedy right and then when they shot it they shot a lot of takes that were serious they shot a lot of and there was a lot of improv stuff Richard gear julia uh julia roberts and um Jason Alexander had no idea what movie they were shoot wow they shot different takes all the time and then they had all these takes to where like oh we think it's drama we think it's this we think it's that way to know. And then they went and saw the movie and it was this classic romantic comedy. And my point of all that is, if you take enough takes and you do enough stuff, they could look at it and go, okay, look, we just saw that the Shehulk stuff with the over comedy didn't play the way we hoped it would.

Thorlove and Thunder didn't play the way it would. Ant Man, not necessarily the humor, but it was more messy than anything else. What can we do the takes that we have? Can we make it a more personal story? Can we really lie in the drama because of the history between kind of Rambo and Carol Danvers? and do that. If they make a more tight story, then with the stuff in different takes that they have,

you can absolutely, maybe that's another reason why they push it to November. And you've got Amman Vali's charm on full display, and I think it's really smart to lean into that. Because you look at the Marvels, I think a lot of people assumed it was going to be Captain Marvel heavy, even though it was called the Marbles.

Right. And I think it was really smart to make it the three of them at the forefront of the teaser and make sure Amman Vali, even though she's not been in a movie yet, is an anchor point because she's so charming, you can use her takes, like almost guaranteed.

So I think it's a really smart teaser for that Because I think there was more Monvalonian in this than the D23 footage Now it was around the same Was it about same? I think it was pretty much the same trailer But it was either way There was more scrolls I was in secret invasion trailer There was more of the scope of space I feel like And that was because they didn't show the spectrum moment

With that wavelength thing in the D23 footage I remember again it was like six months ago A while ago but what I'm curious about is this because they remember that interview, which I think was a D-23, when they asked Brie Larson about, are you going to be back? And she kind of gave that really weird answer.

Oh, that red carpet interview? Yeah, where she was like, I don't know, does anybody want me back? Mm-hmm. Do you think that had at all to do with the fact that she was pretty much, I don't want to say pushed out, but definitely given more of a partnership

in the role as opposed to, this was your movie? It's not your movie. It's not your movie. It's not your movie. Yeah, it's like we liked what you did. And even though it made a billion dollars, we're going to bring in two other people to kind of take the forefront.

Do you think that... I feel like she got more heat than anyone else in that run of movies. Because she was in the enforcement position of being... financially it was great, but it is personally, she had to deal with being in between Infinity War and Endgame. Her movie made a billion dollars because of it, but she also had to be the one that was in between the two biggest movies of all time. So I think she only got stress.

And then to have that not rewarded with a Captain Marvel 2, Her movie had a billion dollars. Right. So I think she might have felt slighted in a way, but I don't think that was undeserveded, like, sass. Because she dealt with, I don't think anyone's dealt with more online than Brie Larson. I know, but sometimes with Brie Larson, and again, I'm a fan of her. I think that's what she did in Room and other performances that she's in.

I think she's a fantastic actress. I really do. I didn't think she was great in Captain Marvel either. Yeah. I don't necessarily know if that was her fault. I think that was more so the director. She didn't really have much to do. The writing the directing just didn't feel like either her or the character to me.

Yeah, there's a lot of face acting going on and all that. But I also think that, and this is what I said, I said this before about her, is that I think she fights the right fight, but I think she fights the right fight wrong. Where sometimes she's out there and she says, seems to you take shots of people who are like, whoa, I'm on your side. What are you taking shots at me for? And she's like, oh, I didn't do.

That's not what I was saying. It was what you were saying, but you just, but I get what you're saying. Yeah. But you punch someone in the head to go, aren't we right? Yeah, I'm right. I'm on your side. Why you punched me in the head?

I think she gets emotional and I think that we're not used to seeing that with public figures in a huge. human way. Like, I do that, but I'm not an actor. I'm like a person on the internet. So, like, sometimes I accidentally punched by the head and go, oh, I'm sorry. I just think we're not used to seeing that with people in billion-dollar movies. And she's also got a more massive of a platform. So when the word spreads out there. But I just think like that one of the things to where it's, and I think that she, like I said, I thought she's really good at Infinity War and end game. Same. I thought that, I think Captain Marvel plays. Just like Thor. I think Thor was great

in those opportunities because they had the Rousseau's. They had a script. Yeah, it's true. If you look at the performances we haven't liked in phase four, it's not the talent. Because if you look at them all like they were good in this, they were good in that. Like I've never said Paul Rudd was bad as Ant Man, didn't connect with them in Quantummania. Right. Well, either way, the movie can be, I mean, I will tell you, someone said, and this was fun, I saw one of the comments in the trailer, or maybe it was my trailer reaction. I can't remember. And I said, this movie looks like it's for 12-year-old girls.

I said, okay. Great. My 12-year-old girl will love it. I want 12-year-old girls to have movies for them. Like, I want them to have heroes, so great. But it is also okay to say, because this is what I said, and I was wrong about it, but for Ms. Marvel, right? It is also okay to say this movie looks like a show or a TV or a show or a movie aimed for 12-year-old girls, and that's great, but I don't know if it's going to land with me. Right.

That's okay to say. Totally. It's not okay to say like, well, it's me for 12 years old, so that's the wrong call because I need to watch this movie. Not everything's for you, whoever you are. But it's, and again, it's okay to say, I didn't, like, for example, that Ms. Marvel show, I'm like, look, I think this is going to be a show that I can watch with my daughter and she'll like it and I'll think it's fine. I didn't even watch with my daughter. I watched it by myself and loved it. And I loved it because of her. Sure. I loved it because of the directing. I loved it because of the family dynamic. That's what I love the most about that show. So it's also okay to say, hey, I thought this wasn't aimed at me, but hell, I really did. I would much rather be proven wrong about something I didn't think I'd enjoy. Yes. Yes. Because then I win twice. Because then I'm like, hey, this was a surprise. Oh, and I'm getting more out of it.

Yeah, it's just, it's like, it's the predictable hate where it's like, I would, to me, I would much rather be skeptical about something and going, look, I don't think that this is going to land with me. Yeah. And then as you say, you walk in and you go, hell, man, I loved that. That was great. And I mentioned this the other day, a conversation. Like, Dread was a movie. I didn't think I was going to like.

Yeah. Right. And I loved it. Yeah. I loved walking out doing that. But I think there's also that side of people that profit all. off of the fact that like, it doesn't matter. They could go and see the marvels and they could love it.

And they're not going to tell anybody they love it. Because if they did, their whole audience would leave them. I think it's a bigger victory to walk out happier than your expectation than walking out at your expectation. Like I expected B plus A minus out of air. It's a solid A for me. And I had high expectations. It exceeded them.

That's a bigger deal than me walking out of John Wick, which I thought B plus A minus and got to B plus A minus. That's right. And I think that and it's just a matter of, and like I said, and it's like someone today we talked about, in Sith Council, we talked about how much we loved the Mandalorian episode last night. But we critiqued a lot of the things

that we didn't like on the scene. So it was like, I can't watch the show anymore because you're too negative. And I wrote back, what episode were you watching? We talked about, it is okay to critique things as long as you're still talking about. Like, negativity to me is just bashing something and never giving any positives towards it at all.

But if you were saying, like, look, there are certain things here that could have worked, in my opinion, that didn't. I love that they did this, And I love that they did that. It's like, that to me is more healthy than just, I love everything. Yeah, I've evolved in my stance on that. I personally, like, I prefer to hype and I prefer to praise.

I prefer to say only good. But there needs to be a context to that. And so, like, I've worked on adding criticism that feels justified with intelligent backup in order to make the hype stronger because then that shows the differential between, like, oh, my God, pure praise. And I have some notes. And I think notes are important because if you accept mediocrity, you're only going to get mediocre films. That's right.

So I really think it's important. acknowledge that while praising things. That's right. And I think you did that with a lot of you did that with Ant Man recently. And speaking of Ant Man. Speaking of Ant Man. Oh, it's the story I was afraid of. But here's the thing, though.

I don't know. We don't know how real it is, but I'm going to tell you this comes from comic book movie. All right, here's a story. And this is from Mark Cassidy, who I like a lot. Ant Man 3 star Jonathan Majors may be out as Kang. Marvel said to be discussing options. We still don't know how Marvel intends to proceed following. some very troubling allegations against Ant Man in the Wasp Quantum Mania star Jonathan Majors,

but it sounds like he might be out as Kang. Ant Man in the Waspast star Jonathan Majors was recently taken into police custody after an alleged assault on a woman believed to be his girlfriend in a New York City apartment. The actor's lawyer claimed that her client was completely innocent and probably the victim promising to present evidence that would clear him of any criminal wrongdoing. Unfortunately for Majors said evidence only seemed to incriminate him even more as text seemingly revealed that his alleged wisdom asked for forgiveness for what occurred after trying to grab your phone. Majors has not been charged, but Marvel Studios may still decide to sever ties rather than allow him to stay on his

Kang and risk a significant amount of backlash. Studio reps have reportedly met with Majors' representatives, but have yet to come to a decision. Jeff Snyder has heard they are discussing options about the best way to proceed, but it certainly sounds like another actor stepping into the Phase 5 villain is a distinct, possibility. What do you guys make of the situation? If Majors walks, do you think he should stay on his king? All right. So Snyder is talking about, I mean, talking about the options. And Snyder's been breaking stories left and right. He's been crushing it lately. He reported on the Dave Faloni getting the movie the day beforehand. He's been, he's been, his reporting has been the best it's ever been right now. He's done, he's kicking ass. So I believe, I mean,

Snyder doesn't just report, he would not report something like this, but they're like this without doing research. So we're discussing options is real. Yeah. You should discuss options at this point. The question is, will it come to fruition? It's weird how quiet it's been. It's been quiet since the incident.

Because I was hoping we'd hear quickly. I was hoping after it went down, we'd have a direction to feel about it. And instead it was like 48 hours of this, that, this, that, silence. And that was, what, two weeks ago? So I personally hope it's them, assembling proof of innocence, but like, I don't know how you prove innocence. Like, how do you, I hope for innocence and I hope that this something like didn't happen that caused someone harm,

but I don't know how you prove that. And I feel like with public perception being so important to the film industry right now and social media and how how these movies are weighed on the talent's lives, because it's not what it was 20 years ago. Movie stars aren't just a movie star. They're a piece of the fabric of society. Because, because, because, when YouTube came around, and now, especially with TikTok, everyone is way more invested in people's lives than the actual, like, movie star element. You don't go and see a movie because, you know, a name is above the title anymore, except for, like, Tom Cruise. Like, there's very few. And even him. Even him. It's, it's, when you think of Tom. It's not a guarantee.

No, you think of Tom Cruise, it's mission possible that's selling it. It's top. Top Cup two. There's franchise. Tom, Tom Cruise did movies that didn't do very well also, whether it's Jack Reacher or the Mummy or whatever. So it's changed what that is. So now the actors are as much about the person playing them as you don't get to be Brando. You got to be, you know, everywhere. So I think that Majors is in a really messy position whether or not it happened because I have no way of knowing. No one knows.

And it's really dangerous to be someone that has been perceived as doing something wrong right now, whether or not he did. And Marvel's in a really tricky position because they're having to restructure their entire plan. So it's also a really bad time for anything to happen. And at the end of the day, did a woman get hurt? Like that's really like. really the main question.

That's what matters at all. And was she silenced? Right. Right. So that's the, that's the, that is a big, big concern. And they have to do the research on it because there's also going to be those questions afterwards, too, where they're going to go, well, well, Warner Brothers didn't do anything about. Ezra. The timing of this is insane.

Because it's a studio restructuring while in other studios publicly restructuring, but they're releasing the crazy thing. And then we don't know what he actually did versus Ezra who's been charged with like 19 felonies or whatever. And especially, again, if they're going through the conversation and the person who is being asked is going, no, no, no, everything is. Yeah. And it's like, but is it? But I always want to believe innocence. So I'm in a tricky spot because, like, my bias is I like majors a lot. Right.

And I don't want that to cloud my like, a woman might have gotten hurt. So it's like, how do you make that tangibly true? I know. And that's, and past all that because you couldn't be more right. Then the business side of it is Marvel, Marvel look and going, what do we do? tenure plan like he's your guy and not only just your guy with the movies you got a tv show with the guy about to come out one of your only two this year right and that's coming out that's shot already yeah and he is the strongest part of the movie that came out that you acknowledge wasn't

what you wanted to make and that's coming out on digital already has or coming on on blu-ray he's like it's the timing is so bad and he like this is a guy that had a billboard across the street from his other billboard between two premieres like three months ago like i remember looking i like at the creed premier going like oh he's looking at himself across the street from the l cap and the chinese That is an impossible task right now to be that big of a star. I know. What a time. And I mean, at the height of his,

when he's really kind of taken off with all these different things with Creed and everything else happens. And some of the allegations online have been really strange because it's like one guy in Twitter says, everyone knew it was an open secret to Yale. And then like I didn't hear anyone else come out. So a lot of the stuff feels like a lot of people going like, I heard things, but no one heard things. That also happens no matter what the case is. That's what I'm saying. Right.

Any case. But it's not to say that that person might not be telling the truth. Sure. It's just saying that that usually always happens, that that's always the problem of like weeding out who's telling the truth, who's not, and the right amount of, you know, evidence, actual proof. Evidence, investigation and all that stuff. Because as you said, if something was done wrong to someone, then whoever it was that did it should pay the price. And statistically, women don't come forward because of the way they're treated. So the fact that she was.

And especially it's a major movie story. Right. And the fact that she was in a position and something happened, no matter what something happened, period. And then now there's an absence of dialogue. And that scares me because I don't want a woman to be silenced because of the size of the star, but I also don't want someone who's very talented if they didn't do something, be punished irreparable. That's the whole point of it too is the flip side of it too. And again, I'm on that side of everything you said.

I'm just saying the other side of it as well too is, well, what happened inside of it to because there are also times where people get into a fight, fight. There's an emotion thing. People say things that they didn't mean to say and like, well, maybe I shouldn't have said that. And that was portrayed the wrong way. and I really actually meant that. Anything can happen. That's why diligent reporting and investigating

and everything needs to be done before everyone's livelihood. Right. That's not hoping the silence is. It's diligence. I'm hoping the silence is them actually doing their jobs. Right. Because it's too big of a deal. The thing is that Marvel's got to make a move

sooner than later because what are you going to do next? Because I'm assuming this guy is going to pop up in the post-credit scene, the Marvel's. and, you know, and it's like the plan is, I mean, he is phase five. Right. Him and, him and doom, you would assume. But we don't even have a doom yet if we are going to. So therefore, like, he's 100% of the plan right now that we know of.

Is there, okay. So let's jump to the what if. Let's say they decide we can't, let's say they decide we can't be involved in the Jonathan Major's business anymore right now. Let's say they make them. I don't think they're going to make that move, but let's say they do make that move. Do they? recast or do they do the unthinkable even though it's called Kang dynasty do they shift and do they

focus on doom instead? I don't know if you can do. I don't know what the story is obviously, but I do feel like what they've set up involves timey, whimy, interdimensional stuff and making that doom would feel very like short-sighted because he's magic and science and I feel like if you add a time element that is just like this powerful guy. Right. So like I don't know if you can tell the story.

they've already set up for three, four years. We're so multiversal. And he's not multiversal. Doom is like involved, but he's not a guy that wields it. So you'd have to recast. You'd have to. And what you do is you cut that post-credit scene.

It doesn't exist on digital. It doesn't exist on like... Which one? The one from Ant Man? Yeah. You just make it not a thing. And then you make it so you meet a king that looks different in the next opportunity to do so.

You'd have to do AIDS. You'd have to get rid of that scene. You'd have to recast. And like that's such a mess because he's so talented. like the guy is so interesting and like he's so impassioned by it like again i have i have a personal thing where like i'm the most of two sides about this because i was raised by a teen mom who got hit and i like always believe women because i like i've lived that side of it via my mom sure and on the other side of it i we're living in a time where people are are reacting

to things so aggressively without necessarily proof and this guy is so passionate about this thing that if it isn't true, that is so detrimental to the fabric of movies. Like, he's a very talented actor if he did nothing. Yeah, and it's like, especially if he did nothing, because then if it turns out that, you know, they don't do the diligent kind of investigating, it turns out that he is innocent and he hasn't done anything and then they've gotten rid of him.

Right. That's a problem as well. Exactly. That's just looks like. That's a problem as well. And this is a guy who has, you know, endured a lot of, like, the way he was treated on Lovecraft Country by people, the way he's dealt with the racism of like so,

went to this country the way like that photo shoot he did in like pink people like like like i think he's navigated a lot of very bad situations well so i personally hope that this hasn't right you always you always cross your fingers and hope that you know like you said that that that that that everybody involved can kind of get you know cleared in some way or another emotionally yeah legally like everything too and that it turns out there was just just there's a bad situation it was you know people two people who just got into a bad situation and that's that's how do you prove that i know i'm just saying that's what you hope it is. I'm just saying that's what you hope it is. I'm not saying that's what it is.

I'm just thinking like what do you do to prove innocence in that position. No, this is not an easy position for anybody involved. And, you know, obviously it's going to be a big story that people are going to be keeping up on. And it does not surprise me that they're discussing options. They should be discussing options. And I think they need to have a game plan. But like you said, how do you prove it? Who knows? I'm not envious of anyone involved at all. It really isn't. And I'll tell you what, man. I don't know. Sometimes I try to come up with some clever transition to get us to our sponsors, but I'm not just going to tell you about it.

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There's a really great run of Punisher happening right now that I don't feel like people are talking about enough where basically you're getting flashbacks to Punisher and you're telling an origin that we've not really seen. And then the present Punisher is so like overpowered because he's basically accepted that the best way to kill as many bad guys as you can is to team up with the hand. So he's become like an immortal God being. So he's literally about to bite the Avengers. So we've got Punisher at an Avengers level God-Diener. So it's really cool to see his past and why he's the mainie is.

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Tell Boom that you found them from us. All right, let's move on to some more stories. Here's one. Again, from comic book movie, the Brave and the Bold and the Authority's directors are possibly revealed. How about that? I'm going to make sense, timing wise. All right, let's see what you think about this, Corey. According to a new rumor, DC Studios has found the,

directors for the brave and the bold and the authority, and they are names we're sure that comic book movie fans will be familiar with. DC Studios, new DCU is quickly starting to take shape. Creature Commandos and Waller expected to hit Max. Bo. What a dumb one of that name. Boo. Changing HBO, most recognized brand of all time calling it Max. Dumbest decision by Warner Brothers ever. Also, Warner Brothers is the oldest studio. Like 100 years of, like how do you not use any of your name recognition. Oh, that is so, that's the dumbest, no, no wonder that, that, that Max has, has dropped the stock.

Dumb. What a stupid move that was. Anyway, expected to hit Max, known as HBO Max, before Superman legacy arrives in theaters in 2025. With only Joker, Folly Adieu set to be released next year, we are expecting a good 18 months or so of casting news as the DCU's successor becomes. Start to get and put it together. James Gunn will be behind the camera for Man of Tomorrow's return to the big screen,

but what about some of the other movies on the way? According to sources that have been verified, both the authority and Batman reboot, the Brave and the Bold, have locked in their filmmakers. While we're taking this with a pinch of salt for now, it is said that Matthew Vaughn. Oh, my goodness. Perfect.

Oh, my goodness. Correct answer. My goodness, I love Matthew Vaugh. It's going to bring the authority of the theaters. Oh, yes. Oh, my good. Dude, that's almost as exciting as Mangold Swamp. Oh, my God, I hope it's true.

James Gun, you genius. Oh, my God. That team seems like a perfect fit for the director, especially when the comic book series is one of the frequent collaborators, Mark Millar, once worked on. Now, The Brave and the Bold, meanwhile, is a movie unrelated to the Batman franchise that will focus on the DC's Bruce Wayne training his son, Damien Wayne, as a new Robin.

We expected Affleck to take the helm of the project, but the following recent comments from the studios, from the actor and director, it's clear he doesn't want to. Instead, it's said that Andy Muscietti. Dude, I said Superman or Batman. Has been tapped to take charge of this reboot. There it is. Plenty of good things have been said about the flash. All right, wait a minute.

Okay, that is perfect, dude. Now again, this is, this is... Big grain of self. They say it as well, too. Comic from a movie says it's just the leak that's coming out, that saying that these are the two, I have never wanted a leak to be more true than this. I'm hoping it's not a leak because people will assume it. Because they're so good, it almost feels like copy paste.

Like Matthew Vaughn working with Mark Miller That tracks Moushietti I said Batman or Superman When Superman got announced his gun What is the next biggest thing If James Gunn is out there saying That the Flash is one of the greatest movies He's ever seen

He's not gonna just say It was great but I don't know work with him Right He's gonna say call him immediately And Mushietti is so obsessed The superhero stuff Like when you talk to the guy Like his interviews

He loves he's obsessed So you give him Batman He's gonna say he's gonna James Gunn's gonna say to him Yeah What do you want to do? Right I'm doing super What's some of the do

The Flash is gonna Like the Flash is he's they're going to reset stuff and we're not going to really continue into it. What do you want to do? Because Mangold's name-dropping Bernie Wright's in a celebration. Like Mangold's out there literally referencing artists at Star Wars Celebration, so he's passionate. So Gunn is clearly not just

picking a director that's popular or he likes their style. He wants people that are in the system. Telling you, the next five years, we're going to look at it as stronger DC the Marvel. He's getting really good directors involved and he's putting these directors in there and I think he's going to get a longer leash than Matthew Vaughner. I love

Matthew Vaugh and the first Kingsman. I love Same. Get the hell out of that universe. Yeah. Get out of there. Like, it's, it's enough.

Yeah, I love the first one. Me too. And X-Men first class is one of my favorite. I think it's arguably, with hindsight, maybe my favorite X-Men. People don't give it enough credit

of what it did for the X-Men franchise. It brought it back from the dead dead. Nobody talks about that. Yeah. It was like, that was after Wolverine origins. It's the Logan of the X-Men, where it like saved a flailing thing.

Yes. And it re-established. I mean, everyone talks about how Fastbender and McAvoy, nobody talks about the fact that it was Vaughn that brought them all together. It's also the movie that's an X-Men movie, not a Brian Singer mutant movie. Right. If you look at all the X-Men, Brian Singer did, they're good movies, but they're mutant movies. They don't feel like X-Men to me from the comic.

Matthew Vaughn made an X-Men movie. He, he, it's, I love the movie and the score is incredible. And it's just, it's a, it's, I always bring this up. I've said it in a long time, but to me, the relationship between Magneto and Professor X in that movie is everything. It's what I wanted Annecine. and Obi-Wan to be in the prequels. Yeah. It's like that because it's like you felt for Magneto,

you saw him when he was good and you understood when he turned back. And you understood every one of their decisions. You understood how Xavier felt in retaliation to it. Shameless name drop at Megatcon talking to James McAvoy. He's X-Men 5 that he wanted to make was a love story not only between him and Wira, but mainly to focus on him and Magneto's relationship. He wanted to make that X-Men comic dynamic the source of 5.

The way they did in first class. So that's what he said he wanted to come back to. He's like, if we were going to do a 5, that's what I would want. And I was like, he gets in. Well, that's what I also loved about the tone in the first Kingsman. And, you know, Matthew Vaughn was rumored and I think was up for a Star Wars movie, whether it was Forcible, or episode seven, I guess would be for his. And he was involved in that.

And I've always wanted to see him do something in Star Wars. But I would love for him to do something like this. It's so British, too. The authority is like, that's a perfect comic for him. That's probably why he's going to do it. Because it's in-house. Like, it feels, I mean, not only to him and Mark Miller have a great shorthand, but also you've got a director who's going to be working within,

his, I don't know, as bolder, vulgar, more, more, more, more, more, brash. Yeah. Like, the authorities got some edge to it. I feel like Matthew Vaughn is even better suited for that than X-Men, because X-Men has to have a little, like, we're making this for everyone. Right.

Whereas the authority, he can throw, he can throw his Guy Ritchieisms in there. And James Gunn's not going to tell him, hey, pull back. That's going to be a hard arm. The authority's going to, and like, Guy Ritchie, I'm really excited is, you know, getting his big tent pulls out of the way because I want more snatch type stuff. That's why I'm so glad the gentleman did well enough to get a show. Right. Because, like, I want these guys to make their tent poles, the one for the studio, and then the weird for them.

Yeah, and they can do that. The authorities both. The authority is the weird with the studio. Well, that's why I'm so excited. I'll say, the machete thing just tracks. It tracks because he's got this relationship with Warner Brothers, obviously, from it. Yeah. And then now, if the Flash delivers the way that everybody's talking about, clearly this movie is going to be good.

And you announce that at Flash. You know what I mean? Like, you make that part of the rollout. Like, I'm going to Batman next. Once you find out what the story is. Yeah. And you find it, especially after him spending so much time with two Batman. And Batman just said that he found himself on the flash set.

Like Ben Affleck just said, I figured out who Batman was working with Nushieti. So like, then that guy should make Batman. Yeah, I think that's going to happen. What a perfect thing, dude. I think this is a, I think this could be. These three announcements, mangled Swamp thing is literally, I would say up there with Favreau Iron Man as far as like, yes, that makes sense. This is deserved. He confirmed it.

He confirmed it to Frosty, yeah. And so that's, you got, you know, know, Ford Ferrari, you've got, you know, Logan and all those things. All that ties together into the perfect Swamp thing. And then we just discussed how Mushietti should do the next giant temple. And that, I would say, is like, that could be a Reeve Superman, man. That could be so special. It's as good as they say. I'm just, I guess this too, I'm just like, now that they announced that Mangold, you know, Star Wars movie, I would selfishly, I want that first. Yeah. I mean, Swamp Thing is fine and I'm sure he would crush it. Yeah. Like, if you're like, well,

what would you rather see? It's like, Star Wars movie. I just don't know how fast Star Wars can go versus Swamp Thing. I feel like Swamp Thing can get done in a year. 100%. And not only because, and they don't even need to do a year. It could be three years because the way that Star Wars is working right now, you're going to get that Daisy Ridley movie first.

That's 2025. And then reports are saying that the 2026 is going to be the Faloni movie. You're not going to want to put out more than one movie a year. Yeah. You're not looking at, you're looking at Mangled's movie in either 2027 or 2020. So you get Swamp Thing. Definitely. You're going to get swung thing.

Yeah. In that point. Because it should be small like we've talked about. Like we want that. Yeah. And then you let him have his like, you know, journey of existentialism on the way to Star Wars. It'll make,

I think for a better Star Wars movie if he gets to do this first. Yeah. But at what cost? Because you got away. All right. I told you Danofrio wants that, right? What's that? Did I tell you that Donofrio told me he wants to play Swamp thing for DC?

And I'm like there was, how was the press not picked that up? That's huge. Well, I mean, was it on video? Yeah. That's what I'm saying? That's on video? Right.

I'm like, where's the, where's, where's those videos? I mean, I was on the stage. Hey, no, but where, do you know where the videos are? No, but I'm telling you, like, on the record on stage, he said it. Oh, you're saying, because nobody reported in the, any. Yeah, like, so I'm reporting it here on Caves and Cells. Here you go. Perfect, yeah, if you're watching this, and Coy Chandro interviewed, uh, interviewed Vincent

and O'Hrio on stage and Donofrio said he wants to play Swamp. And he said it in a really, like, we literally, the question I asked, did I tell you this, how I got to that? I asked him about, uh, I basically said, I want, him to come back as Edgar because in 2002 Malibu Comics got bought by Marvel. So technically he's a Marvel character now. And he paused and was like, yeah, I'd come back. And then he like, wait a second. He's like, but what I really want is to play Swamp Thing at DC?

And you could tell that he was realizing that if he said this out loud, it'll become a new story. And I'm like, too old though? I mean, I don't know if you physically need a lot of. Does it really matter? Yeah, because you're going to probably have a body double for a lot of the crazy. Like Derek Mears is a huge dude. So is Vincent, but I don't know how much he's actually going to be in it. Because you just have that voice, that presence.

I wonder also how much, if someone's active in Marvel, I wonder if James' gun is going to stay away from that. Ooh, that's going to be interesting. That's good point. Not someone who's been there before, but someone who's active. So, you know, because he's going to be active in that show. So if he's doing whether Echo comes out or not, and he's doing Daredevil for 18 episodes.

Yeah, we have three years of him. And maybe more, right? into stuff. So if he's that recognizable as kingpin, does that a detriment to him? But how Swamp Thing looks is going to be... That's true also, but it's still... The name. But then again, you can bet your ass that Dave Batista's going to show up

in the DCU. You can bet your ass. James Marston was in Superman the same year X-Men 3 came out. Different, though, because it was different connected at that... Sure. But I know what you're saying. Like people have... Sure. I mean, look, I mean, you look at Ryan Reynolds has jumped back and forth. A lot of people have jumped back

Chris Evans is like five heroes. Still crossing my fingers about that Henry Cavill, Dr. Doom thing. Dude, what an insane thing that would be. All right, what do you guys think about these directors don't? Do you think that Mangel, well, mangle for Swap Thing, but do you think that Matthew Vaughn is the right choice for defenders? The authority. Authority, excuse me.

That's defenders. I got the Marvel. You're still in Kingpin Land. Yeah, still Kingpin Land. The authority, do you think he's right for the authority? And do you think that Andy Mushietti is the right call for Batman? Let me know what you think. Tell us in the comments.

And Mochetti's spooky stylings, too, man. I'm thinking of the cave. Like, how cool would a Mocietti back cave be? I'm excited for it. All right, here's the next one. All right, speaking of Andy Mochietti, the Flash teaser has given us a new look at Michael Keaton's Batman, Supergirl in action, and more.

Winter Brothers Discovery is currently dropping a lot of new teasers and announcements, and they have a new look at The Flash, thanks to a teaser promo that was shown during the studio's live stream. There was a new trailer for The Flash, expected to debut online ahead of the movies world premiere at CinemaCon on April 25th, And we might now have a little tease of what to expect, thanks to some footage that screened during Warner Brothers Discovery live stream.

The spot reuses some shots from the first trailer, but we also get a new look at the Scarlett Speedster, Ezra Miller, racing into action. Supergirl takes flight, and right at the end, Michael Keaton's Batman with that as a cowl. The trailer has been pulled. But either way, that's the shot. And great hair, great hair.

Great hair. It's like a blonde, grayish kind of just curl that just works. Only Michael Keaton can pull it off. Did you see the penguin trailer come out of all this? I didn't watch it yet. No, we didn't talk about that. Yeah, that's another thing. Was it an actual trailer?

It's like a two-minute thing that is mostly trailer, but there's a couple shots of like BTS. It's interesting because there's a shot of the crew working on the show, but it's shot in the same, like scope as the show. Oh, dude. It looks like a mafia show. It looks like sopranos with the penguin. Like Bob, that was supposed to.

Yeah, it looks like they learned a lesson. And it also looks like it's being taken. I mean, it's different companies. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. You learn from the other company. We're going to do this. Yeah, they're going to be, oh, that's what the people wanted. Like, I keep saying, Warner Brothers is going to sharpen the knife that Marvel made.

Like, it's just going to be learning lessons. And the penguin looks like the same tone as the Batman. It's going to take itself seriously. It's going to be a long-form tone. But it's Colin Farrell getting to play the mafia guy. He's always wanted to play. So great. Because he, like, loves the fact that he's, he and Brad Pitt are two aggressively handsome actors trapped in handsome facades,

but they're character actors. Right. Like, they're both guys that want to play, like, snatch and weird stuff. this is Colin Farrell getting to flex the crazy, like really good actor he is. He was unrecognized in that movie. Unrecognized in that movie. Eight hours of this? I can't wait.

And it looks great. And now that I've, I mean, it's already past. People are sending it to me like you got to do a trailer reaction for it. And I was, it was all day of Mandalorian yesterday when they sent or the other day when they sent it. So I didn't get a chance to watch it. And then I said to myself, well, I missed the mark already. And then, yeah, obviously could have talked about it on this show to watch it more. But I'm like, I don't know if I want to watch it.

Yeah. There's, like, I didn't watch the new Barbie trailer because I missed it by a day. Yeah. Then it's going to get half the views. And I know I'm going to see it. So I kind of want to enjoy the Barbie movie. That's what I'm saying. I want to, like, I know that, like, the Penguins were in most anticipated shows.

The moment it comes down and says the penguin in the Batman font, I was like, yeah. I got more chills from that than most trailers. And when they say they can't show Batman in the, in it, but they can show Bruce said you can't. No, I thought he said something else. He said, uh, that's not true to someone mentioning it. He didn't specify which wasn't true. No, he said it.

I think you can show Bruce Wayne. but you can't show. I can't remember what it is, what it was, but either way. Either way. Who cares? It's Penguin Show. Who cares? I can't wait to see it. I'm so excited. But I'm glad I did. The buzz I guess I heard was pretty good on the... It looks incredible. And it looks like it's the thing we wanted. Like you said, Boba Fed to be, it's a long-form crime show. What a great way to bridge two movies of the three of got. It's a good tone. Now, what do you think about this picture of Michael Keaton? I think we are going to have a very interesting marketing campaign around flash because of this picture.

I see this being called The Flash starring Michael Keaton's Batman. Yeah, I kind of believe that this whole movie's like kind of about me. I'm back in, I'm Batman. I'm back. I'm back. Asa Miller can be running around.

How many times is that graduation clip played where he just says I'm Batman? Like the marketing is going to be on Batman, the Flash movie. And then he's going to announce that he's directing Flash. Like, it's perfect. I mean, like, Mooshan is going to say he's directing Batman.

Do you think they're going to wait to see how it does opening weekend? I don't. You think they're going to announce it before you? I think they're going to announce it at the premiere. And then I think at this year's comic, They're going to have the craziest stage of Muscietti-Mingold, like Vaughn. What a stage of announcements and trailers? And then you're going to have, I think Marvel's going to be pressed to announce the X-Men finally in Fantastic Four, and it's going to be literally a wizard magazine from 1996 on stage.

Jumping into kind of a topic that I guess is relevant to that. It's not on the bill, but I brought this up the other day, and I think that we've talked about this. But I feel that, and, you know, the multiverse is, look, before Marvel and I even knew Marvel and DC kind of covered it, I know that they've been covering it for years, the multiverse and all the stuff. I've been fascinated with the multiverse, the idea, the multiverse, all of that, in scientific terms. Like paying attention to it. So when they did it, I was like, oh, I'm excited to hear how they're going to do. Yeah, we talked about a lot.

I think it's really hindered the MCU. I agree now. Yeah, I think that the way that they have done it has not been as effective as they were hoping it was going to be. I think it has turned it sloppy. I think it has turned it chaotic. I think it also has taken away a lot of the stakes. I think that now that you know that anybody can come back at any time, because you know Tony Stark's going to show up in secret invasion

or secret wars, whatever. And all these different things you're like, okay, it just takes the way. What I said, what they were able to, what mean? One, two, and three. The phase is so, to me, relevant and emotional was they set up movies of the single characters and then they had the big event. Yeah. Everything's kind of all over the place right now.

If they finish up Secret Wars, they close out the multiverse saga, they get rid of all that stuff, and then they just focus in on the X-Men. Because the X-Men is essentially the Avengers. It's the new Avengers team. And if you do, like, let's say one movie is Wolverine, one movie is Cyclone, one movie is Rogue, right?

And then the fifth movie, like they did, is the X-Men movie. I think they're going to do a combination of special events on TV, the special presentations of like, you know, give supporting characters those. And then your team movies are those big gatherings. And then it disperses into X factors as show.

Generation X is a show. I think the big team movies are going to be the X-Men, but then there's also the smaller teams that aren't as, like, well-known, are going to be long-form shows. Like, I want like, this Harry Potter announcement is very silly. But it does also make sense. Yeah. I think. Oh, I think it's, I think it's a ton of money. I think it makes a lot of sense. I just think they're

handling it poorly. How so? Because they're, the way they're announcing it is, they're front-loading all of the things that the diehard fans are complaining about. Like, instead of going like, guys, guess what? We're doing Harry Potter. They're going, look at the old castle. Look at the old score. Look at J.K. Rowling as executive producer.

Look at not at the original cast. I'm like, you guys are highlighting the cons. Instead of going like, imagine a world where you get a long form every year. Like, they're not saying the pros. They're saying the cons. So I'm saying the way Warner Brothers is doing it is so like, guys, you got gold. Why are you making it silver? Right.

You're not disagreeing with the choice. The idea. No, it's a financial. The way that they're handling it. It's just so funny that they're like, let's highlight the garbage in this house we're trying to rent. I understand what you said. So I think what they should do with the X-Men. And ignore the nice pool.

It's a great pool. It's beautiful. So the X-Men, they should do the other thing where it's like, the way I'd advertise a Hogwarts show is imagine getting to spend hours with this instead of two hours. Imagine meeting the students and living through this year. The X-Men should be long form on TV and then big events and movies. You can do a lot of different things. I mean, but we're both on the same page where it's like, focus on them.

Because you have this, because right now it seems like they don't have, they have like secondary characters, they have these things that people aren't really getting on board with. They don't, the older characters are kind of getting phased out. There's really,

there's not a lot of people, people are excited about where you have these characters in X-Men that people are excited about and they are your, they can serve as your new X-Men. And you can also do Fantastic Four stuff and all that stuff too.

You can lead to a world, I think the new world post-secreture wars is distrusting heroes. I've said it before where like, Miss Marvel's already started that up. There's going to be a thing where we don't have, have the heroes be these beacons anymore.

That's how you do an entirely new phase six and you have it be a more underdog, more Spider-Man level, more of these characters that we know and that keeps the budget lower. I think we need to leave the multiverse and the cosmic. 100%. And hopefully they take, and I don't know if James Gunn is going to do this, but like

I mean with Mangold on board, I don't think you will but like I always thought and I talked to you about this, I think Swamping should be a smaller budget film and I think there should be have some smaller kind of almost, it feels almost independent at times when it's not, but like, you know, bring those scales. Right.

One of the best things Marvel's done in years. Bringing that scale down and doing that, and hopefully that's what they start to do with some of these movies. And that's not just for Marvel and DC. I just think big movies in general could do this because you look at something like both more so Black Adam, right? If Black Adam cost $110 million to make, that movie makes a profit. Right.

If it costs $80 million or whatever else, you give the Rock points instead of a big salary and everything else too. and you scale it down and you make it a little more of a character story you do some stuff that movie makes a profit. I think we might get

a small swam thing because of Logan. Look how small Logan was. Well, that's a good point. That's a good point. Look at what he's doing. Ford Ferrari, small. Yeah.

I mean, you're not going to make that Star Wars movie. You're not going to make India's small. But he likes to go small with his character superhero. But the indie is not going to be small in definition of what blockbusters are, but it still felt less.

I mean, this CGI was de-aging and all that stuff. too. It's not what I mean, but there's, it didn't feel like a popcorn CGI movie. It felt like an Indiana Jones movie with the action kind of leading and pushing. Spielberg feels like a scope that was big in the 80s in a good way and he's mirroring that. He's mirroring he's not making a Marvel movie. He's mirroring Spielberg in 1989, not 2000 and I pressed a thing. Did I do that? Yeah, so. Sorry, it was impressive.

But he's, but yeah, he's doing he's doing Spielberg 1989, not Spielberg Ready Player 1. Well, 2008, whatever that Indiana Jones. Yeah, there's no alien skulls. There's no trying to make this a Cape Blanchett alien Nazi movie. And Harrison Ford right now, if you watch Shrinking. Dude, he's in the height of his powers right now.

1923, he is on another level. He's so locked in right now. Because of 1923, because of shrinking, I am so, it was already my most anticipated movie the year. Even more so now because he's locked in. I'm so impressed with him in shrinking because it seems like the guy that, You watch his interviews, and he's a guy that literally will decide in the first minute or two whether or not he's engaged.

And I like that because that's like you deserve my attention or not. It's also why I want to see him in Thunderbolts. And that's why I think he signed on is because he something in that script said, this is worth my time. And I would have, you know, everybody's going to say like, oh, yeah, $20 million. Like people always think that paycheck, he doesn't need it. And also he could pick the other thing. He's 80 years old. What's he doing?

He could do whatever he wants to do. He can just sit on his couch and smoke pot. Yeah. He can keep crashing planes if he wants. He wants nothing to do except to work and get better. And 80. It's amazing. And he's only getting better because shrinking is some of his best work of his 60-year career.

Easily. Like, or 50-year career. He is brilliant in that show. Yeah. Brilliant. Like, I never thought we'd have Emmy Award winning Harrison Ford. We might next year. I think so.

And deservedly. He should. If it's, I mean, either 1923 or shrinking, shrinking to me is what he should win for because he's just, he'll win best supporting. Yeah. And I think that is a testament to his work right now, the scripts he's choosing why Thunderbolts is good. And I also think Marvel, that Thunderbolt movie has the weight of an Avengers movie on it.

It has the weight of turning around phase five on it. It has, think about it. That's their next team movie. I know. If you look at the weight of, and it's the first one they're shooting after this re. Right. The Thunderbolt's weight is huge. That's pretty better be good.

I'd love to have like a real conversation with Kevin Feigy. Like to really, like, you know what I mean? Yeah. Meaning like what is he really, you never ever going to hear. Like, what's he really feeling about all this right now? Like, what's his criticisms? Yeah. Because you know everybody has like, like those moments behind the doors where you're like,

well, this is going wrong. And this is going like, what's he thinks going wrong? Yeah. You'll never going to hear him say it on the, on the interview. You'll get a Diane Lane or Diane Sawyer-esque interview in 20 years. Maybe you will. Maybe you won't. But it's like, it's like you're just not, you're just not going to get the behind the scenes thing that you want to hear about.

What do you really think about face four? What worked? Yeah. So curious. I think it was expanding too rapidly. Like it, I think the internet problem happened to Marvel. Like every internet company, look at Uber, look at any entrepreneur tech company, look at these new companies. Exponential growth, infinite growth, I think is what they refer to it as, is the business model.

So the reason Uber prices went up the last two years is all of the subsidized money that was making it cheap enough went away because all the venture capitalists were like, this isn't growing infinitely anymore. You can't grow something infinitely forever. It's impossible. I think Marvel went, hey, we're expanding, we're expanding. and then did the multiverse, and they tried for infinite growth, and they tried all these characters, all these shows, all these special editions.

But the problem was simultaneously to that, COVID happened. Right. So they were basically blowing this balloon up really fast while it was being shot with a pandemic,

and now they've got to basically pick up all the piece of the balloon, try to patch them back together, and hope. And then they've got their lead having legal stuff. I know. There's going to be,

it's interesting. But let's jump to D.C. And then we'll call it a day. Because we, a couple of months ago, maybe. Speaking of Batman Brave and the Bowl, there was a list that came out about which actors could play Batman.

I think, I think Eccles is still a great choice, but we'll see how that pans out who they're going to get, especially now with potentially Andy Muscietti, directing which is a fantastic news of true. But they did one for Green Lantern. And this is comic book movie put together

this list, and I'm going to read it out, and we want to see what you guys think, and we'll talk about the ones that we like the best, and then we'll get your guys thoughts on it, but here's the list. All right, this is the list, and it's by comic book movie, and they said, here's seven actors that we think could play Green Lantern's, Hal Jordan, in the new DCU. DC Studios will finally reboot the Green Lantern franchise in the Max. God, I hate that so much. It's so bad to read. It's so stupid. Max, Lantern's TV. Why

isn't it just HBO Max? It changes. It's stupid. Oh, just HBO! But it's so stupid. We don't have channels anymore. We have platforms. Call it HBO. Why do we want to call this Max? That's my son's name. All right, Ralph. It means big and we want to be big again. Dumbies. And we're now, that's a Zoloft move, I'll tell you that.

And we're now sharing our top picks for who could be Hal Jordan. Here it is. All right, so small screen. Lanterns was originally going to revolve around Alan Scott and Guy Gardner, but DC studios, when it was formed, they shifted it to Hal Jordan and John Stewart. The news was welcomed by fans, especially as Hal has been absent since 2011. and John's live action debut is beyond long overdue. In the upcoming Max TV series,

the space-faring superheroes are going to embark on a true detective-type mystery that leads into an overall story. Okay, so who should pick up where Ryan Reynolds left off? We have some suggestions. Here we go. Hayden Christensen. I don't know if I love that choice. I love him.

I don't think he's Hal. Yeah, I don't think he's got the sense of humor that Hal has. Right? I like his darkness and how how gets dark, but if he starts dark, it doesn't. But how's the sense of humor doesn't? Right. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like he should have, he should devolve into the dark side.

And Hayden has that dark side energy. Yeah, I don't love that choice. I love him, but I don't, I don't love that choice. So I'm going to, I'm going to say a, I want him to be a Batman villain, though. I think Aden Kristen to be really cool in that universe. I hope he gets another shot. I really do hope he gets another shot. Not at that one, though.

Asher Angel. I think he's too fresh off of Shazam. Yeah, I like him. I also, I mean, that's one of the things we praised about Shazam was how much weight he brought to Billy. I also think Asher is a movie star in the making and unfortunately hasn't been able to be yet, but I don't see him as hell.

Yeah, I don't think he's there yet, but I'm not sure about that. Matt Lantner, Matt Lannner made a name for himself in 902 and O. He's Anakin, and then Coleman Wars and Starvillis. That's just a bad picture of him, the one that they just... It's dark and he's... Yeah, yeah, yeah. like Matt Latner. I don't know about For Green Lantern, I think this is an interesting

choice. I think comic book movies sees Hal Jordan different than me. Oh, no, I don't like this choice. Okay, he's also dark. Alden-Aren-Rike. He does, if you watch Cocaine Barre... Oh, no, he's incredible. He's got that sense of humor, but Alden-Aron-Rank, I don't know. We did a David Mamet play together. I've seen dude's work firsthand. He's a very good actor. He's a really good actor. He's got a dark... I see him as Batman more than how.

John Krasinski's the one that fits... It fits as just a little, I think he might be a little too old. Yeah, because if you don't tenure. I mean, unless you do the first season is him retiring and passing the mantle. Yeah, but Krasinski to me fits the idea of Hal. Of Hal for sure.

He's very Americana. Now, this is a name that gets thrown around there all the time. Taryn Eggerton, which is, again, he can play the humor. He can play everything else too. Taryn Engerton will eventually show up in one of these big roles. I like that choice because I just like Taryn Agerton. There it is. Glenn Powell.

Glenn Powell is the one that a lot of people have been talking about for sure. I think Glenn Powell's best choice on this list. And I think that he's got the best shot. Glenn Powell, of course, from Top Gun Maverick, who was... Let him fly. Incredible.

And he pretty much was... Maverick meets Iceman. Yeah. Which is, to me, Hal Jordan. I think he's the best choice on this list. I think Maverick is the bravado. Iceman is the insecurity. Like, that...

I love that Iceman is the villain of Top Gun, but he's right. Like, Iceman is, like, you've got to be in control. Yeah. And I think that's how. Because Hal is the guy that's going like, hey, we got to stay responsible. But then he breaks and becomes a villain because he's like too responsible. Which I think is Glenn. I think he's a great choice.

I'd like to see him do it for sure. And, you know, it's, I would say he's a great choice for it. And then you're, I loved your choice for booster gold. Do Billy Magneson, right? Love your choice for booster gold. I hope that gets pushed out into the world. It's so perfect. It's really perfect.

And also like, reading more about what booster gold is. His place in his career, that is the exact timing. Because so much of this job is like where are you at and what you need to boost you. And it would benefit both WB and Billy, which I like when a role can go like everyone won here. Yeah, that would be good. But as far as this goes, yeah, out of that entire list, I'll be honest, I like their Batman list

much better than this list. But I would say that out of the ones there, Taryn Agerton, obviously, because it's Tarynxing, you're not going to lose if you get him. But out of all the ones, I think Glenn Powell, yeah, Glenn Powell to me is the best true. I feel like they cast according to where

Hal Jordan ends, not where he begins, and that's a problem. Minus Glenn Powell. I think of that. Yeah. Well, and Glenn Powell can even play the darkness. Yeah.

But, but, like, I feel like they're casting for parallax. They're casting because, like, how Jordan turns evil. Oh,

he does. And then basically kills a lot of lanterns and then has to absolve themselves and becomes the specter. And he's like this ghostly entity. Okay. And it feels like they're casting for, like,

the 10-year plan. Okay. And they need to let the actor become that. Like, I feel like Alden's inherently got a brood to him. Yeah. And I think, like,

I, going back to what you were talking about before with, like, the directors kind of going into the smaller movies. There's certain actors that I think benefit better on smaller roles, independent movies, more character-driven pieces. I think Alden's one of those guys. He's the best part of Hale Caesar.

Yeah, he was good in Hale Caesar. And like that movie's not great, but he is. He's really good in that movie. And I like him as an actor. I just, and there was nothing, and like I said, if they would have done, if Solo wouldn't have been called Solo and it was a different character altogether, I thought he played that role. Sure.

Right. I just, for me, I didn't think that that was, Han Solo. And that's not his fault. No. That was the direction he had 75 different people telling him what to do, but I thought the role that he played was a good role as a different character. And that movie itself told a good story that I wanted to see more of. It's just not... If he changed it around and it wasn't

Han Solo and it was just this other kind of, you know, smuggler. And it just, you know, they had that type of thing. He was, he wasn't the problem at all. It just, he just wasn't on Sol in my opinion. Wedging till he's father. Whatever. But to a lot of other people they thought he was, but it just,

I just don't think he plays as much into these big budget movies. I like to see him in these smaller things. So him and Hal Jordan is not, his style of acting is very like focused and contained and like I want Hal Jordan to be able to be on lunchboxes. Like it's a different thing. Yeah, it is. All right. Last thing,

Mia Goth, Blade. Oh yeah, let's talk about that. Last story here too. Before we let us know, out of all the choices on that particular list, who'd you like the best, throw in some names that maybe we didn't think about it. Who else do you think could play Hal Jordan in the Max series for lanterns? Jens Snackles also would be a good, Howl Jordan. Yeah, he would as well.

All right, this is a story that just hit yesterday, and Justin Kroll, who's another one who is just in the prime of scooping right now. Him and Snyder are like the two best, in my opinion. After spending the past year, this is from Justin over at Deadline, After spending the past year, terrifying audiences and wowing critics, Pearl and X star Mia Gauth looks ready to take her talents to the Marvel Cinematic Universe as sources tell deadline that she is set to join Mahershala Ali in Marvel Studios' Blade.

Jan Damange is set to direct the picture with Michael Starbury on board to write the script and Marvel Studio President Kevin Feige is producing. Ali is starring in the role. Marvel could not be reached for comment. details are unknown at this time as well as goth who will be playing plans for a new incarnation of the blade character played by Wesley Snipes in a string of movies in the early 2000s was revealed during Marvel's scene-shattering presentation at Comic-Con in 2019 goth is coming off a stellar year that started with the a 24

horror pick X with the sequel Pearl premiering a few months later and goth stars in both but is front and center in Pearl where she gives such a stellar performance that award pundits began discussing a potential best actress candidate she also earned strong reviews in the Sundance Midnight infinity pool. Next up, she can be seen in the fifth installment, his final installment of the X series Maxxian, which bows later this year and is also in talks to star in Del Toros Frankenstein. Okay, look, I don't know any of these movies, minus I did see, what's the one, shoot, the infinity pool, but I, hey, she's, she's hot. This is street cred for cult golf. Like this is so

smart. This is the Billy Magnuson of this genre. This is someone at the middle, uh, between transitioning out of the indie and into the mainstream. This is someone picking their first franchise. This is someone that is this bias credibility into the type of movie Blade's going to be me. Yeah. Is this to me is like, hey, you just did three the biggest best horror movies independent of all time. And now you want to do this big like I, to me this is a faith in the team that like Blades the right move for her, which means the script, because this script's been rewritten. The script's lost its director, lost its writer. I've been worried about wait for a second. Yeah, this to me is like some solid graphics. Yeah, so maybe they

kind of, and it goes to, I can't believe it's in four years. Well, it goes back to what you're saying before also, right? Like it goes like it's there it's to be able to reteam and go all right, look, we really want to do blade. People are excited, but we got Marcia F and I'll lead to do blade. Let's figure this out. Yeah. What's our tone? Well, let's go let's go a little bit more in those early 2000s. Let's make it that kind of horror thing. Let's like, well, so who do we get? Who's on the horror scene? You think we can get me a got? Let's try to get me a goth. Hey, guess what, guys? We got me and God. Big swing. And it's like, we got her to do this. It's going to really play into the tone. The director's like, look, this is the approach I want to go. Yeah. So you could be right. This says a lot about what the movie is. You're hoping it does. Yeah. You're hoping it does. And it also is like she gets to be mainstream audiences. Then audience can rediscover her indie stuff. She just did. It's good for 824 because now they're going to have DVD sales. But this is what Marvel needs to do, though. If they are going this route. They got to get away from the same. everything seems to have like this sugar coating over it yeah I agree and it's like be a little be a little bit more risky yeah make make movies that are outside

the genre that feel like like feel like something else like I love that that winter soldier felt like a born movie the first phase and phase two and then the big events of phase three all felt different like different movies and like and it's like that's what you need every one of the phase four movies seem like the same when I picture the color palette it's all the same and it's like they got to change it up. And Star Wars feels like it too. For me, the Star Wars stuff feels like the same color palette sugar as Marvel. But there's no movies to really... I'm in Mando Babafet. Like, I feel like that all has that same. But the difference is I think with Mando,

because I don't love Boba Fett. And like, but because, uh, but Mando and at least Boba Fett, they're in the same universe, right? Sure. It's meant to be. But I'm saying like when I think of Disney, there's somebody who knows, it's all in the same universe. I'm talking about the, as far as the Philonian Favreau universe. But when I picture Disney TV. I hear what you're saying. It's one... Like when you go to Photoshop and you pick a palette,

it's all that to me. And I want Marvel to go back to what they were doing. Me too. Me too. And I think this could be a step in the right direction. And they think it right at our trust us. Like if this movie comes out in two years, if they're just casting now, that's what, 20, 25? I think that is one of the hindrance with Star Wars though as opposed to Warner Brothers. I mean, excuse me, Star Wars. Disney as opposed to

Warner Brothers is that Warner Brothers will take those rated R swings. They'll go with Joker. They'll let Gun do the Suicide Squad. They'll do this where Disney can't do that. 2008 was Marvel starting in this way and 2025 will mark how many years is that?

They need a division where they can start doing some rated R stuff. And Deadpool 3 is confirmed rated R and that comes out before Blade. I would say let Deadpool 3 be the gateway and let Disney logo on that movie. There can't be. I mean they had a Disney logo on Boston Strangler. Did they really?

Yeah. I think it's happening, man. Because if you look at 2008 to 2025, that is 17 years. That means people born the year Iron came up. Born can go see it. People that were born the year Ironman came out can go buy a rated at our ticket. It's time. Holy moly.

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