The Kristian Harloff Show - Marvel's Kang Dynasty Script LEAKED?! Was SCRAPPING The Right Choice?
Episode Date: March 31, 2025The MCU is once again in the spotlight as major Avengers: The Kang Dynasty leaks have surfaced online—and we're diving into everything we've learned. On today's episode of The Kristian Harloff Show,... we break down the original plan for Avengers: The Kang Dynasty, its evolution into Avengers: Doomsday, and what it all means for Marvel Phase 5, Secret Wars, and the future of the Multiverse Saga. Marvel Studios seems to have scrapped Kang as the main villain in favor of Doctor Doom—and for good reason. After Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania flopped and Jonathan Majors' legal issues became a major concern, insiders say the studio lost faith in the Council of Kangs storyline. Now, with Stephen McFeely rewriting both Avengers 5 and Secret Wars, and the Russo Brothers returning to direct, the entire direction has shifted. We're breaking down the leaked Kang Dynasty script that includes wild reveals like a Moon Knight team-up, Miles Morales' MCU debut, a Deadpool 3 crossover, and even a Spider-Man: No Way Home reunion. Plus, what role was Doctor Doom supposed to play before becoming the central threat in Avengers: Doomsday? And how does this affect the lead-in to Avengers: Secret Wars? Other stories covered: Captain America: Brave New World nears $200M at the domestic box office. A Working Man dominates Snow White in a surprise upset. Warner Bros. shakeups and early talks of new leadership. First reactions for The Minecraft Movie are in—and they're surprisingly mixed but intriguing. AND — in a massive shift — Warner Bros. has completed the worldwide sale of Coyote vs. Acme to Ketchup Entertainment. Yes, the previously shelved, fan-beloved Looney Tunes film is back! The Wile E. Coyote movie—starring Will Forte, John Cena, and Lana Condor, directed by Dave Green and written by Samy Burch—was shelved for tax reasons despite strong test screenings. But now it's getting a theatrical release in 2026, with Ketchup shelling out close to $50 million for the rights. Produced by James Gunn, this film has become symbolic of Hollywood's internal battles between artistry and cost-cutting. Marvel. DC. Box office drama. Studio shakeups. Leaks. Come for the nerd news—stay for the chaos. 👇 Drop your thoughts in the comments: Did Marvel make the right call dropping Kang? Are you excited for Doom? And are you actually going to go see Coyote vs. Acme in theaters in 2026? #MCU #Marvel #MarvelPhase5 #Avengers #AvengersKangDynasty #SecretWars #AvengersSecretWars #TheKangDynasty #MarvelLeaks #MarvelStudios #Kang #KangTheConqueror #CouncilOfKangs #JonathanMajors #Deadpool3 #IronMan #SpiderMan4 #BlackPanther #BlackPanther2 #BlackPantherWakandaForever #MarvelEntertainment #Avengers5 #DoctorStrange3 #MCUXMen #FantasticFour #WorldWarHulk #JamesGunn #MarvelPhase4 #SecretWarsMarvel #KevinFeige #MarvelNews #MinecraftMovie #CoyoteVsAcme #JohnCena #WileECoyote #LooneyTunes #DavidZaslav OUR SPONSORS: ROBINHOOD GOLD: The new gold standard is here with Robinhood Gold. To receive your 3% boost on annual IRA contributions, sign up at https://www.robinhood.com/gold RULA Head on over to http://www.Rula.com/KRISTIAN to get started today. After you sign up they ask you where you heard about them. PLEASE support our show and tell them our show sent you. TRADE COFFEE: Trade is exclusively offering our listeners 40% off your first order at https://www.drinktrade.com/KRISTIAN
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all those chairs were leading up to doomsday.
But that wasn't the original plan.
The original plan was Kang,
Kang Dynasty.
Well,
there's a script that was leaked online
and it gets some good details on it.
And the question is,
after reading the details,
did Marvel make the right move from going away from it?
I sure they stuck with that story.
There's a lot of stories going on, man.
One of those stories is that Zazlov wants new leadership,
wants to get rid of those people that keep making the decisions
that he's not happy with.
and the rumors are that he's already meeting with people to get them out.
True, false.
We'll discuss that.
I saw Minecraft over the weekend.
I can't go a full review on it.
There's still embargo.
I can get my initial thoughts.
I can tell the story how I took my seven-year-old to go see it and give you her thoughts on it and the story of us going there.
So we'll discuss that.
And the box office, a working man defeats snow white.
So how does that work?
Yeah, in round two.
Bad news.
Snow White.
So that and more on the show today with myself and John Roker.
So let's get into it.
Apple podcast, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found.
We're going to take your questions, all that and more on the show today.
It's Christian Arloff Show.
Let's do it.
Welcome back, one and all to the show.
I appreciate it.
Joining me on Monday like he always does, it's John Roker.
What's up, John?
How you doing, brother?
What's up, everybody?
How you doing, Chris?
I'm good.
I'm good.
Good, good weekend.
Yes, a lot of NCAA tournament watching.
Good.
A lot of movie catching up on some stuff watching and, you know, hanging out with the lady outlaw.
So yeah, good weekend.
You finished severance last night.
Oh, good.
Congratulations.
Did you see it yet or not?
I've never watched one episode.
You should love it.
I love it.
I won't spoil anything, but I loved the finale.
There was only one thing I didn't like about it.
I'll talk about it with Roxy and people who have seen it.
Right.
will understand this reference
with a special. I'll just say marching band.
And there's a reason why.
It's a reason why I didn't like it. I'll discuss it with Roxy
on the show tomorrow when she returns triumphantly
to the show.
I feel like the Matrix.
Like, I dodge spoilers like John
what's his face, dodge those bullets in the major.
Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, it's like there's, that's a,
that's a good show to dodge bullets from because it's like
a lot of, it's a great show. I love season two.
And it's funny. One of the episodes that I was
kind of like lukewarm on that everybody was raving about i actually wind up liking so much more because
of the finale oh right on in retrospect because sometimes they do shows where they have like these
standalone episodes that have nothing to do with the shows like they throw these shows in there and
like oh they kind of relate to it but it's just kind of like this almost feels like filler yeah
this standalone episode that they did that i was like oh everyone's raving about this episode it
makes so much sense and it is crucial the entire um backbone of the
show so i wouldn't want to like a lot more do you mean a stanell an episode like a bank heist do you
make like a bank heist is that what you're like oh you like daredevil i like that episode you didn't like
it not that didn't like it's just like it it did nothing to forward the plot it was no it really
it didn't it didn't in the way that like um except to say hey miss marvel exists the new scene yeah
exactly yeah yeah i i i don't disagree with that uh i don't disagree with that but i i still i liked it
I like that show most than most more than most but I'll tell you what I'm so curious about
is my reactions as I was telling you John I took my seven-year-old to see Minecraft yesterday.
Yeah, yeah.
So my oldest wanted to go because she played Minecraft and thought the trailers looked
terrible and wanted to see how bad it was in to see if it was if that was the case.
But she got she was she was better now but she was getting ill and I didn't want to take her or
she was getting over being ill so i didn't want to take her into the city exhaust her and that kind of
so my little one was like well i'll go to eat popcorn i'm like okay because she didn't she didn't
really know much about it she's like maybe i'll like it so we're watching it and we're
watching it and we're watching it and we're watching it and she's like we're doing popcorn we took a
a trip we were on the train we went into city we're having like you know it's just a nice nice trip with the
with the two of us and taking her into this um we went to lincoln square so we went we went there we
took a cab to get there she's like looking at the window she's enjoying being in the city so we're
there we're watching it for a little bit and i go let me let me see what she thinks right because i'm
watching i'm like this is not for me and i just think it's pretty generic and it's exactly what i thought
was going to be. So I look at her and I go, well, maybe, you know, sometimes you watch these movies and
seven-year-olds, and I go, they like it. Yeah. I whisper, Macy, what do you think? She looks for me. She goes,
she goes, and that's their demographic, by the way. That's what they're trying to get.
You don't like it? She's like, can we leave? I go, no, we can't leave. She goes, she looks, she goes,
all right, right? So she finishes the food. She's like, she laughed a few times. She laughed a couple times. And then I said,
did you she told me some of the things that she liked and some things she didn't and then i go
i was like well glad you stayed she's like it was the best answer in the world i go you glad you
stayed she's like yeah i got free popcorn and you got to make us some money i did my out of the
theater reaction afterwards you know so she saw me recording the reaction so she knows the
she knows the out of the theater reactions and it and it did it did decent guys
It's just not a great
It's just not a great movie
I don't find any buzz for this at all
And it's coming out this week
Now there's I think from Minecraft players
You'll get rep I think there's references and stuff
Because when I got home and my daughter
My oldest wanted to know how it was
And she started asking me questions about it
And you know things
She's like oh because you know in the game this happens
Like well that kind of happens
And I was like and this happens
I think that I heard a bunch of people
Who played Minecraft that were in the audience
Were like kind of like when a reference popped up
I'm like, oh, that must be something that is important to the game.
So I think for Minecraft fans, they definitely, I think, were true to the essence of what the game was supposed to be.
You know who I love, who I didn't like in this?
Who?
MoMAW.
Yeah.
From the trailers, I could tell.
This was a completely miscast decision.
I don't like him in this call.
I know what he's trying to do.
Yeah.
But Jason's not, Jason has the, doesn't have the skills fully as an actor to play a role like this to make it believe.
especially in a probably not well-done film.
I think that's more so what it is.
He's got good comedic chops.
He's got certain things, yeah.
Yeah, certain things.
And maybe just wasn't, you know,
he's playing this kind of this role where it's,
he was this video game champ like an 89,
which I don't know if the age lines of it,
either way.
And he's just kind of like this loser,
but he's not like a lovable loser.
He's just a dick.
But he's a loser who still hit.
the gym and grows his hair out and looks fantastic right right right and like and that's the only thing
that he does do but everything else he's just kind of a he's he's he's kind of a loser but down in his
luck and but he's a dick and i never really liked him i really got into the i like the girl from wednesday
she wasn't really she was just had nothing to do the the the woman from uh i was a suicide squad
it's named daniel yeah daniel brooks yeah yeah love her underused it's like anyway the movie the movie's
forgettable. So, but either way, I'll get more kind of a non-spoiler review when I'm allowed to do it.
My people took care of me down here in San Diego. My publicists, they reached out to me and they
were like, listen, we have a screening, but it's going to be chock full of kids and full theater.
So we know you don't want to come. So we'll buy you Fandango codes. So you can go on your own.
It's like, thank you. Thank you. That's nice. Well, that's nice. Yeah. So that was, you know,
that was something. But it, yeah, I'm curious how it'll do in the box office. It's,
Project to be 55 for the weekend, but we'll see.
Do you know what it is going to do, though?
What is it going to do?
Is it going to end Snow White?
Is what it's going to do?
It's going to end it.
Snowy had a, snowy came in third.
In week two.
Terse out.
Brutle.
Boxoff with results.
Jason Statham's a working man, which I did see.
Did you see that movie?
I have not seen it.
I'm going this afternoon.
It's raining here, so it's perfect weather to go see a Jason,
Statham actually.
It really is.
It's exactly what it.
Whatever you expect this movie to be, it's a little.
Yeah. It is. It's like, it's what the Van Dam movies were in like the late 80s.
Yeah, I can't want to. I love this.
Jason Statham's working man overpowers Disney Snow White.
The Jason Statham action movie, a working man overpowered Disney Snow White at the domestic box office this past weekend.
Look, very different audiences too here.
But working men's directed by David Ayr opened up at 15.2 million in the United States.
That opening isn't far off from Aaron Statham's 2024 action movie.
the beekeeper, which made 16.5 during his premiere weekend.
And don't be, don't be fool.
The reason this movie did that well is because the beekeeper was a fun, guilty pleasure
movie for people.
Disney Snow White came in second place.
I thought it was third.
Maybe that we're all second.
Yeah, just below it.
Okay, okay.
I thought Chosen did.
Okay.
Disney Snowy came in second with 14.2, which is a 66% drop from its opening weekend.
Okay.
Okay.
I mean, 66, I was shaking 70 to 80.
But 66 is not 100% great, but not too bad.
It's too bad when you don't have a good opening weekend.
Well, fair. That's fair.
But, yeah, I thought it was going to dip much harder than that.
Sure.
If we're looking at, you know, we'll talk about a second.
Hold on.
Faith-based movie, The Chosen Last Supper, Part 1 beat out the rest of the newcomers as it beat
out Blumhouse as the woman in the yard and A-24's death of unicorn.
One of those, also, nights, meanwhile, failed to crack the top 10.
And the second wave was released with his domestic total now only a 5.5 million.
Maybe wish it was good.
Box office results here's the top 10.
Working man at number one.
Snow 8 at number two.
The Chosen at number three, woman in the yard at four, death of a unicorn at five.
That's a pretty good number for that movie with six.
Is that a re-release?
Yeah, Princess Monanokee re-released this weekend.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
Not too bad.
Yeah.
That's real good.
Captain America, Brave New World's still making money.
So it's, so 770.
Is that what it made so far?
770,000.
Oh, yeah.
Say, oh, shit, 7070.
Okay, total is 196.
Yeah.
Okay, so very, very different number.
Black Bag, Mickey 17, Novakene.
Wonder Brothers struggling.
Yeah.
One of the brother struggling.
Big time.
Yeah, right now.
But maybe, who knows?
maybe with um with uh this movie coming out the Minecraft will pick up a little bit um okay yeah so
going back to your earlier point if snow white would open with like 75 80 million and then dropped
you know in week two when there was new competition coming out but this is this this is a big
this is a big and considering the the the amount of money this movie costs this is this is a major
loss and and failure for oh yeah 100 percent and it's not going to it's not like elementary
where it's going to like all of a sudden find legs and the loss would be less and less.
It's very clear now with the 66% drop that the interest is almost, almost gone here.
And eventually, as you said, when Minecraft comes out, it will explode.
It'll still keep making its money to a degree, but it's a pretty much lost cause.
Whereas like Brave New World at least finally crossed 400 million worldwide.
But I don't think, I don't think, if this thing gets past what, 2.250 worldwide by the end of its run, I'll be
surprised. Which is a
disaster. Yeah, absolutely a disaster.
That's a disaster because the movie
itself costs, what, two something?
270 is what they're saying.
270? Oh, shit. Wow.
Yeah, major disaster.
Major disaster. Let's say 300
let's say you needed to make around, you need to make a real
at least 600, at least 600.
Yes, at least six. Be happy.
It's a 143 right now
worldwide. Yeah, that's a problem.
That's a big problem. And I heard you and Stefan,
And you backtracked a little bit, my man.
On Rachel Zegler.
Yes, I've changed.
Yeah, my, my, my, my thoughts on this are evolving as more of this stuff goes along.
And, you know, we're allowed to evolve and like everyone else.
And, you know, no matter how much people want to give a shit that once we say something, that's it.
Uh, we, we evolve.
And so for me, my, as I've read more of this stuff and as I've seen other people's
articles and other people's points of views, I've kind of evolved on this whole thing.
And now I'm in a place where like, I think she knew exactly what she was doing.
She knew why she was doing it.
And the fact that she resisted,
because I think that report came out after you and I did our show.
So the fact that they tried to corral her,
they tried to get a social media guru,
they tried to,
and she resisted all of it.
That tells me that she has a very headstrong person
who believes what she believes.
And the fact that she has become now,
according to a number of articles over the last three or four days,
like a lot of people are on her side.
Like they look at her as an icon who speaks her mind
and steps forward and pushes back on these things.
Do I agree with what she did?
That's a separate conversation,
but I think it's interesting to see that she is,
she's not getting buried in the way that people thought.
And so I think that's an interesting way to look at her now, you know?
Yeah, she's very fine.
Yeah.
So, well, I think she'll be fine in certain aspects.
I don't disagree.
I'm willing I've ever disagreed that she didn't know what she was doing
and she was staying true to her beliefs.
Well, you were saying the media training.
And the thing is, I think she's in a place where she doesn't need,
she believes she doesn't need the media.
training she's going to do which right which is not in my opinion someone who is representing a as
we've talked about at length yeah it's correct right 270 million dollar movie right right right
it should be tweeting because you're trying to make money that because as you said do i believe
that to a certain amount of a lot of people yeah she has become a like yeah stick to your guns do
your thing yes of course but she is no longer a movie star she
is a political figure. She is a political figure now. I don't know. I don't know.
The back and forth, she, if you are a studio head right now and you, let me ask this question.
Okay. So extract what you think about, about whether you're like, go, Rachel, do your thing.
Get that out of the way for a second. Yeah. I'm not even in either camp. I'm just more like
I'm driving on the outside. Yeah, yeah. But if you're the studio head and it's on your ass,
I'm going to give you $250 million to make a movie.
Yes.
And on that cast list is Rachel Zegler right now.
You cast her in that movie?
I have a conversation.
I have a conversation with her.
But it all depends on what the role is, how big the role is,
how important she is to the overall story that I'm trying to tell.
But she's an incredibly talented actress.
The fact that she's only one.
I'm asking about it.
I'm talking to make money right now.
Yes.
Everyone else that's out there.
Yeah.
I think you're full of shit.
I think if I gave you $250 million and I said, you have to deliver on this movie.
Yeah.
I'm Brian Cranston in the studio.
Yeah.
Great show, by the way.
Great show.
And I'm saying you've got to make this.
Here's your list.
Yeah.
Rachel Ziegler is pitched as the number one.
Yeah.
I would put.
You don't put her in the movie right now.
You can't.
Number one.
You mean top of the call list?
Is that what you think?
Yes.
Number one with the number list.
Leading on her.
shoulders as you did with Snow White. What kind of movie am I doing? A $250 million movie.
That's what you do. It's a $250 million movie that's a commentary in our society and politically
oriented or movies like that. They don't make $250 million. They used to. Tom Cruise used to be in them.
Not 250. 250 million. You're making movies for everyone. So the answer you just answered,
no, you do not put her in the movie right now. It's all dependent on. I think it's ever right now.
But look, Christian, we wouldn't be having this conversation if Snow White was a good
effing movie, but it wasn't a good movie. Look, Wicked was made $400 plus million in both
Cinearrivo and Ariana Grande came out with pro-Palestine stances. So it really is about the fact
that it's got to be a good movie. Now, do you take a chance on her? I would have to say,
no, I don't take a chance at this point. But three years from now, maybe three to five,
I may be taking a chance. I'm talking right now. I would not take a chance on her right now on a big
studio production movie. Agree. I talked about it on my other channel today.
Yeah. There are things that everyone thinks is the most important thing happening today.
And in a month from now, no one cares, right?
Yes.
But here's the thing, though.
If we're talking three years, you're just like, okay, look, I just want, the question for Rachel Ziegler, is does Rachel Ziegler want to be a movie star?
Or does she want to be someone who's making statements?
And if you're making statements and you're doing it, you can find, as I've said many times over it, to find the audience, you can find your audience that's going to support your
And like you said, I'm doing a $20 million film, a $30 million.
I put her in every single Broadway play that I'm doing.
I'm putting her in.
Okay, let me ask you a question then as a counter.
Do you think Sylvester Stallone is still a movie star?
To lead a $250 million movie?
No.
No.
No.
$250 million now.
Hell no.
Do I think he's a, do I still think he's a star?
Yeah, I mean, look at Tulsa King.
The Tulsa King proves that he is still a star.
That's a TV show, right?
It's not theatrical.
I just said a start.
I just said a start, correct.
But he's still running a budget, and he's still holding a budget,
and he's still got to get raided.
He's outspoken politically.
He's out there showing up and doing things that he's doing.
I'm not going to $250 million on him.
That's a fair point.
I don't.
He's making a movie.
Guess what?
His movie,
he co-wrote a working.
Yes,
I know he did.
Yes,
I know.
And the second one is written for Stathom.
Yeah.
And,
and, you know,
it's also,
there's,
it's funny how it's kind of switched, too.
That outspoken in the side of the aisle that he's
on not too many people are going to say well I'm not watching because he's talking on that side of
the aisle because he's still saying it seems to like kind of shift a little bit it's the people
but those people aren't leading 250 million 100% 100% what I'm saying asloff gets his way maybe but like
there's so much that is um on the line when you're doing anything over 150 you got to play ball
you got to play ball and you kind of like you can be outspoken you can do whatever you want to
to do. No one's trying to quiet you down.
But if you are going to be representing our movie,
you got to represent everybody. You just have to.
So then you would say that you agree
with the Gina Carrano situation. You agree
because she was outspoken politically that
she should have been let go, right?
My thing is this.
It's consistency on, like, the
question is, are you asked
by the business you are working for
to not do this?
And both of them were.
And she was. Both of them were.
They were both asked.
And Ziegler did not get fired.
But they were both asked repeatedly,
hey, hey, can we tone this down?
And they both said, no, I'm doing this.
And you are allowed to do this.
You are.
You are, of course,
I'm not allowed to have consequences.
Yes, yes, 100%.
I don't disagree with you doing that.
And Rachel Zegler's consequences
are that she's becoming maybe very liked by one side.
She's becoming extremely disliked by a lot of people.
Yeah.
constant videos and Instagram.
My freaking Instagram is every time I see something.
Someone talking about the empty theater she's doing stuff from and this.
It's like enough.
I didn't want to even cover this today.
But it's relevant because, you know, it's the box office and there are things.
And it's like, and it just has become movies unfortunately have been caught in the crosshair of the political strife that this whole country is in.
We're all in that place.
You know, we used to say, please keep politics out of this or that.
brother, there's nothing. Everything, it is permeated into every section of our world,
whether it's video games, kids, TV shows, big studio films, everything is political nowadays.
And it's a shame you can't just enjoy stuff, but everything is political and how it's approached
or how it's how it's dissected or how it's interpreted. And a lot, there's a lot of bad faith
actors who install political stuff into their interpretations so they can keep making money and
that's unfortunate and I hear you about the racial videos but those people are doing that so they can
keep the hate going so they can make their money off of that hate some of it manufactured some of it
real but like I think she's I think she's a young 23 year old woman who's very clear about what
she's doing she's going to be outspoken and she's going to be a star of films may that be the
250 million films but she is trying to create a new movie star that is outspoken and is willing
and is talented enough to carry films.
May not be the 250,
but she is going to create and forge her own path.
And no matter what all these guys,
these pimply faced,
you know,
large dudes are crying about on the internet,
she's going to keep doing what she's doing
because she's so supremely talented
and undeniably so,
you know,
and I think that's going to piss those guys off even more
as she achieves more success.
And I guarantee you,
the cycle will come around,
where people start appreciating her all over again.
I don't disagree with you.
I don't disagree with you that there is that section of people that are just going to hate to hate.
But I also think there's also people who are just like annoyed by it.
And enough is enough.
And like, I'll tell you, I fall into that camp sometimes.
But I'm just like, when I hear her and I'm like, listen, I get it.
But this is not the time.
Like it's the same way with the Oscars for me.
It's I told you that.
It's like when someone does a speech, when they've won, you know, something at the,
I'm giving an example like the MTV Movie Awards and they win let's say they win a speech for
they went out of award for Best Kiss and they're given and then they go into a freaking political
thing. Yeah. What are you doing? It's what are you doing? It's like on your own spare time and
your own, I always tell people. If someone tweets about something, you're like, what do you do? I don't
follow you for that. They don't follow the motherfucker because that's what they're allowed to do that.
They're allowed to do it. Personal thing. Anyway, we'll run around in circles on this thing.
But I think it's good to have a healthy discourse about it and talk.
about it so and we've done so yeah yeah all right before we get moving on because we have some
the story about the avengers a king dynasty i want to get into um i want to talk to you guys as i said
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I don't know what it is.
They're going to look and get it.
What the hell was that?
I can't even hear a damn thing that was said.
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Let me tell my engineer right now.
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Hey, engineer, you stupid ass, what are you doing?
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I think you're talking to yourself.
I'm talking to myself.
You got to find this
Before I even do that, I've got to find this article now.
The Kang Dynasty one is so interesting.
Can't you find it while this is playing?
I mean.
Yeah, well, I am.
I'm doing both.
I got it with the problem is I have to upload.
Because look, I don't know why this happens.
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That's how you do it.
Yeah.
I realized I knew what I did wrong.
So I edited it together because you heard the music.
I edited it together this morning.
And my editing program, what it does is it does two things.
If you don't get it in time, it creates a highlight of the thing that you've just done.
So like it ups it up.
And so I uploaded the highlight really and upload the actual full thing.
So tomorrow that'll change.
All right.
Let's get into this next topic because this is the main thing.
This is the things we're talking about.
This is it.
Avengers, the Kang Dynasty's plot.
It has been revolved.
Dr. Doom was set to be the mutant sagas big bad.
That's right.
Marvel Studio scrapped Avengers.
You know what?
I just realized something.
What's going on, buddy?
Taking a break for a second.
Okay.
Can we talk about how the Yankees have grenades in their bats?
What is going on?
Nine home runs in one effing.
I don't want to hear anything about the bats.
I don't want to hear anything about the bats.
You know why?
Yeah.
Because the people who made those bats, you know who they work for?
The Marlins.
That's right.
You know work for the yanks?
The Florida Marlins.
That's right.
So Marlins have those two.
But they are hitting grenades.
And then, and meanwhile, Soto's sniff and farts in the Mets dugout.
So anyway.
Stoto's getting mad at the refra, mad at the umpires instead of, instead of hitting the ball.
So yeah.
All right.
Today, we're shooting our final reactions for Wanda Vision.
The last three episodes, me and Sam.
She's a diehard Matt fan.
I am going to find a way to make some Soto jokes on the way.
during it.
I'm going to throw on so many.
I want to get her own machine.
I'll stop.
So I'll do that.
Anyway, back to the order.
You tassel the hair of the Mets.
Oh, it's so cute.
I'm not going to lie to you.
I like going to the Mets games because it's a great stadium.
Shea Stadium's a nice thing.
She doesn't exist anymore, my friend.
Oh, what is it now?
City Field.
Yeah, City Field.
City Field is a great stadium.
I joined.
I went to Shea.
I liked it.
Shea was great.
But City Field is a really nice stadium.
It is so much easy.
I'm actually going to the Yankees versus Mets at Yankee Stadium in May.
But the stadium is so much easier for me to get to the city field.
And I go with my friends.
I have a couple of beers.
If they win, great, if they lose, who cares?
I don't get stressed because I have no real big investment.
And I'm just watching the game.
And I just go and I have a good time.
Last time I went, I went with two of my friends.
We had really good seats.
It just hung out.
That's what I like to do.
It's like a relaxing thing for me going to City Field because I don't have anything.
I'm just like going to the games.
But I'm going to really lock in when I go in May.
So anyway.
Yeah.
It's a big game of the Dodgers games.
Winston loves the Dodgers.
He's a big fan.
Oh yeah, big fan.
He's his number one team.
Marvel Studio scrapped the Avengers of Kang Dynasty instead of focus on Avengers
Doomstay and some new details about the original plans for the multiverse saga.
conclusion have finally been revealed okay at the san diego comic con in 2022 marvel studios announced
plans for avengers the kang dynasty and avengers secret wars even before jonathan made your
issues the studio was keeping kang as the multiverse saga big bad why well ant man and the was
Quadamavia was a critical and commercial disappointment.
Reliable insiders have claimed that Marvel Studios was taken aback by the response,
and it seems it shook them enough to wonder if Kang was the wrong villain to be focusing on.
Okay, so since then, a lot has changed, charting the chaotic productions.
Where is it?
Both movies is no easy task, but the Kang Dynasty's director, Destin Daniel Cretton,
is now helming Spider-Man 4, and neither Michael Waldron nor Jeff Loveness are attached to
write either movie. Instead, Avengers Doomsday and Secret Wars have both been rewritten by Stephen
McPhile and will be home by Avengers and game directors of Russo Brothers.
We've previously heard the plan for Avengers of King Dynasty was to pit Earth's Mightiest Heroes
against the Council of Kang's, but some additional details have been shared today by the Cosmic
Circuses Alex Perez. According to the scooper, separate Avengers teams set out to battle
and Mortis Centrion and Ramatut, the three Kang variants teased at the end of Quantummania.
However, the conqueror-verent was going to return from the beyond in the third act to take revenge against his doppelgangers and become he who remains.
It's unclear what would have happened from there heading into Avengers' Secret Wars, but with history repeating itself and the multiverse once again being destroyed,
we've heard surviving heroes from several different realities were set to Battle the Beyonder in the
Boyd said that Dr.
Boom was never part of Marvel Studios original plans for the two-part multiverse saga.
Instead, he and others were to be revealed as being among those removed from the timeline by Kang to ensure that they could thrive.
However, one of those variants had been, once those variants had been defeated, Doom was teased as the evil they were trying to keep at bay with their actions.
Perez adds, now you're going to get the aftermath of what have basically would have been the next saga,
but with Doom at the forefront instead of Kang mixed in with a couple of ideas.
from previous scripts. So had things played out differently, Doom was set to be the mutant
saga's big bad and likely had a lot more screen time before debuting. It's always interesting
to debuting. It's always interesting to think what might have been, but it's doubtful that
Loveness and Waldron were the right people to pull this ambitious story off. While Loki
did a great job of setting the stage for Kang, many regular movie viewers don't want to watch
the MCU TV shows, so relying on the Ant Man three quill to get people interested enough,
is seeing all these kang variants go to war, that was going to be a big ask.
Okay, so the huge, huge article here in general.
What do you make of all this?
I mean, I think it's an interesting idea.
I love a lot of the ideas that were put out here.
It sounds like this would have been a phenomenal movie if they had pulled it off.
Because it's, you're going real deep into the cuts here in Marvel lore, right?
Not for the comic fans, of course, because we've all read this stuff and know this stuff.
but like for the general public to be introducing all these different Kang variants,
which by the way,
we enjoyed,
right,
the Kang variant in Loki season two,
the Kang variant in Ant Man.
I thought he was the best part of that Quantumania movie.
So Jonathan Major's talent was really something.
They were,
they had a massive foundational pillar into the ground,
like an old oak tree.
They were going to use those branches that were really strong
because John the Majors is a phenomenal actor.
So they wanted to give him all the,
these different characters to play. He's like flow from the progressive insurance. Like there were
going to be multiple different versions of flow. Just like there are multiple different versions of
Kang going to be in this movie. So I like the idea and I like where they were going. The fact that
they were planning for Doom to be the mutant thing makes a lot. It makes a lot of sense why they
moved it in the way that they did to try to kind of make up for Kang or Jonathan Major's not being
able to come back. So for me, there's a lot here that is exciting to consider, exciting to look at. It would
have been fun to see, especially the Beyonder stuff, that is so surprising.
But I wonder if they would have been able to pull it off, considering some of Loveness's
scripts that I've read or watched right in his.
So I think it was a great ambitious idea.
I just don't know if they would have been able to pull it off with that team, you know?
It might have been too damaging.
Yes.
I destroyed the Marvel universe for the most part.
Yeah, because the problem was they're not, it's not like one of these things where like,
okay, we have such a great plan.
Like imagine if this would,
this whole Jonathan major situation would have happened,
you know,
during like the height of one,
phases one through three.
Right.
Then it's like,
oh,
they had this whole plan.
It was all set up and they had to go this way when they really wanted to do this.
It was like,
yeah,
they were going to do this,
but we don't know if it was going to work out because like,
they couldn't really get anybody to invest in this.
I do love the idea that that version of Kang that we saw in A Man,
Quantumania becomes He Who Remains.
I love that.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
Like, you know,
the way that time works sure um and then all of that and the idea that doom was going to be the x-men
big bad let me ask you this because they they say in here well you know it was he was going to have
more screen time the russos are still going to be doing the x-men everything else too yeah i don't
i don't think doom's going to die in secret wars i think he's going to go away that's been hinted at
already right that like there's a lot of speculation that he is he's not coming back to
just to do these two movies,
that he is coming back to be a bigger part of the phases going forward.
And if he's going to be the big baddie versus the mutants,
which makes a lot of sense if you know your Marvel comic books history,
that's an exciting thing to consider.
But he's all the same guys who did Electric State in a lot of these crappy movies.
So they also did it.
They did it, they did Civil War.
They did Endgame.
They did Infinity War.
Whatever.
It's like they know what you're doing when it comes to Marvel.
I don't find it.
The outlaw in 2019 ain't the outlaw in 2016.
Things change.
Things happen.
I'm just saying, you're not as strong as you were before.
You're not winning as many matches.
Maybe they're not directing as many great films.
I'm just saying.
It's something to be concerned about.
So I saw one of the super chats and someone actually asked about them.
So I'm going to save that.
And speaking of which, you're currently at 40 questions already.
It's pretty good.
40.
It's damn good.
So we're going to see if you can set the week.
I don't think anyone's ever going to touch what Winston and I did on that five and a
five and a half hour live stream for it shouldn't have that shouldn't of course it
of course it and we should get equal time five out five and a half hours every day you want to
stay here for five and a half hours no um no uh anyway so we also weren't on together for five and
half hours i know i know he did two up top then we then we finished the the stream together but
yeah um there's another story that is a lot of people are discussing what you think about it you haven't
said what you thought of it did you like
Do you like the idea? Do you like the cane variance?
You're like all that kind of stuff?
What do you think?
My thoughts are pretty much what I said there.
I just don't think they would have pulled it off.
I don't think that anybody would have cared as much because exactly what they said in the article,
to be honest, is that Bonamania didn't lock you in to Kang the way that you should have.
He should have been, he was more devastating and more intriguing and mysterious in Loki season one
than he was in any of that movie.
He wasn't scary at all.
He got beat up by ants at the end of the movie.
He carried off and then a bunch of bad CGI versions of him at the end.
You're going, you don't really care as much.
You know, so then to lead that into, you could have made him in the same way.
You can make him devastating and try to figure that out, but I don't know how they would have done it.
And I think it might have just gotten a little convoluted.
It's like I got a little lost and bored in that description of when I was,
when I was reading.
I was saying it's a lot.
A lot.
A lot.
That's what I do think,
I think that what I will say is from reading that about Doom.
Yeah.
And what they're going to do with,
what they were going to do with that,
that Doom essentially was the evil.
They were trying,
that these guys were all trying to keep at bay.
The fact that he was that scary,
that they were all trying to keep him at bay.
Yeah.
He's going to be the most devastating thing that we've ever seen.
He has to be.
He's got to kill a bunch of people.
And I said this to,
oh, let me ask you the same question I asked,
um,
boy and Winston.
Okay. What percentage do you think that we're how much are we going to see Robert Day and Jr.'s
face in Doomsday and how much of the mask are we going to see percentage wise?
I mean, it's called Doomsday, so you're going to see him.
You're going to see him?
Yeah.
Is he going to be in the mask?
I think the mask doesn't come into later in the movie.
So how much face do you think we're going to get?
You think you're going to be like, what, 75% face?
the rest of the mask?
How much of the percentage of the movie do you think he'll be in?
I don't know.
Let's say it's, I mean, it's called Tuesday, so he'll probably be in a good amount,
but from the amount of time that we see him.
I will say 70 to 30.
I think 70% will see his face, 70% of the time we'll see his face, 30%.
No, screw that, 80, 20, 80% of the time we'll see his face.
20% will see him in the mask.
So I have the same numbers.
Oh, okay.
But the opposite way.
Oh, you think 80% of the mask?
I think for the first movie, Doomsday, I think he's in the mask for 80% of the movie.
I think 20% is his face because it's called Doomsday.
You need to be terrified in the way that you were terrified.
The Russo's are big Star Wars guys.
Yep.
Bader was just terrified behind that mask.
You never saw his face.
Didn't need to see his face.
I don't care who's behind the mask.
Down he's not going to have that ego right now because you're paying them.
And you're paying him a lot.
You want me in the mask the whole time?
Sure, fine.
When you're on my face?
Not until the next movie, really?
Okay.
And Secret Wars, the comic books, one of the few comic books I remember,
mask comes off.
Yes, true.
So that's what I think.
So I'm going pretty, I'm going pretty high that I think that he's going to be in the
mask for the majority of it.
In order to,
because you also,
you also want people to not associate him with Tony Stark.
Right.
You want him in that mask.
See, I see your logic.
and I totally understand where you come.
I guess I'm coming from the reverse
where I'm like, you want to
convince the audience
by Robert Johnny Jr.'s acting
in his face and the changes
that he is this doom
so that when he puts the mask on,
that's what you're seeing when you see the mask.
And so when you go into secret wars,
you're already invested in what he's going to be.
But I think it'll go either way,
but either way, they've got to get it right.
Yeah, I agree.
They have to get right.
If he's if he's not intimidating, then it's irrelevant either way.
All right.
Another thing, I know you guys have been covering this for a while, and you might have, I mean,
I know you've been talking about it on the hot mic for sure.
This is a big story, man.
Warner Brothers completes the worldwide sale of coyote versus Acme.
This was a big story going around on a movie that everybody loved,
that worked on it, and people were talking about it.
And then he just had this Looney Tunes movie that came out.
People really enjoyed it for what they saw.
Warner Brothers has completed the same.
that deadline talked about a few weeks ago for their previous shelves,
Coyote versus Acme movie.
Catchup Entertainment today confirmed their completed deal for worldwide rights,
the live action animated hybrid film that brings Looney Tunes character,
Wiley Coyote to the big screen.
We had the deal pegged in the 50 million range,
and the film is expected to get a theatrical release in 2026.
Gareth West, CEO of Catchup Entertainment, said today that we're thrilled to have made
a deal with Warner Brothers pitcher to bring this film to audiences worldwide.
Coyote versus Acme is a perfect blend of nostalgia and
modern storytelling capturing the essence of the beloved Looney Tunes characters while introducing them to new generation.
We believe it will resonate with both longtime fans and newcomers alike.
Directed by David Green, written by May December Scrib Sammy Burch.
The film was produced by Christofaria and DC Studios co-boss James Gunn.
Film is based on the Looney Tunes characters in New York humor article Coyote v. Acme by Ian Frazier.
Bull Forte, John Cena, Lana Condor, and Ton Bell star in the movie, which follows Wiley Coyote, who after Acme,
products fail him one too many times in his Dodge pursuit of the Roadrunner. He decides to hire a billboard
lawyer to sue the Acme Corporation. The case pits while Lee and his lawyer against the latter's
intimidating former boss, but a growing friendship between man and cartoon stokes their determination to win.
Despite test screening well, the project became a high profile casualty of WB cost cutting two years
ago and had been sitting on the shelf for more than a year. The studio reportedly screened the
movie to a string of buyers in early 2024 with a price tag of around 70 million, which is how much
the film is said to have cost. Studio sources claim to us that they didn't get any offers at the time.
Shelving the movie put noses out of joint with talks of a potential tax write down.
Among those dismayed were Lego movie director Phil Lord, the film star Forte called the move F'n'Bulls.
The Coyote deal by catch-up marks a significant and record outlay for the company whose previous
releases have included Michael Keaton's star
Goodrich comic book reboot Hellboy
The Crooked Man, Ben Affleck Thriller,
Hypnotic, and Michael Frankos,
Jessica Chastain Drama Memory.
Catchup last year, rescued the same studios
the day the Earth blew up a Looney Tunes movie.
How'd that movie do?
It's okay. It's not doing that well.
It's not doing that well. Okay.
It's like catch up entertainment
to me is going to be the good guys
in a situation no matter what.
Sure. The question is,
So my daughter says to me yesterday, my 13-year-old,
they've been advertising Mufasa, right?
So my daughter says to me, she goes,
you know, I think people would have cared more about this movie
if it was in 2D like the original, or the original.
And I said to her, I was like, maybe,
but it wouldn't have made as much money.
And she's like, yeah, but she'd asked the question that, you know,
you hope all innocent people would ask.
And she's like, and she goes, yeah,
but isn't it more important to make a good movie?
then to try to make money and i'm like i'm like yes but you know and it's like that movie mufasa
ultimately went up to make a lot of money right it really really 20 million so it did the question is
is looney tune so far out of the public you know that needs to go to the movies right interest
that it's just going to be hard because 50 million dollars to to to buy this if it hits is a great
tag price they want it 70 you got to
for 50. And if you have the kind of money to do and you don't like look, if you can have the
conversation in your board room and say, hey, we're paying 50 for it. We're probably going to make like
30, but we'll own it. You know, we'll get the rights to any merch or anything else that we need
to do the rights when we put it on streaming and those things and we'll eventually make some
money back on this thing, whether it takes three to five years, but at least we're the good guys,
people will know us and now our name, who the hell had really heard of ketchup entertainment until
recently, you know? Yeah. So I would say that it's a good move on ketchup, even if they don't make
a profit. I think it's a good move by them. I don't think, I don't think it's going to be, especially
if you do it for $50 million. What about you? Yeah, you take a chance on this. I understand why,
I mean, a lot of people ask where the hell are they getting $50 million? Because as you ran through
those movies that you're talking about, none of those things were big box office successes. In fact,
some of them underperformed Goodrich. I know barely did anything. It's already on Max. So it's like this
this thing of like, where did they get the $50 million?
So that's where the question really comes where,
and I hope someone, one of these websites,
one of these entertainment sites with their journalists and reporters,
investigates where they got this $50 million to buy this film.
Are there people who are involved with the movie
who are maybe contributing to get to the $50 million so they could buy the situation?
Is it a public relations thing?
What is the logic here?
Because you were saying the Looney Tunes film only is at $10 million right now,
the box office and it was a $15 million movie.
So it's not great.
So and it's not probably not going to, it'll probably barely make 15 to 20 times.
So you look at the $15 million you're spending on this, this, the hype around this movie,
man, like if the movie comes out and there's like middling reactions, it's going to be
interesting because everyone who's talking about it are just creatives.
No critics really of notes have seen this movie in large amounts in order to give an honest
assessment about the film.
So I'm in a place of like, well, let's see.
The fact that they're pushing into 2026 is interesting as well.
Like, is the film not done?
I thought the film was done.
Is it post-production?
Or is there not a room in the schedule for this thing?
Because you just made a bunch of moves moving stuff further down and into 2026.
So although they're not going to be the main studio anymore, catch up, there's clearly
places to put this movie at.
So I'm just, there's a high bar that this thing has to clear.
And I don't know that people are.
clamoring for a $50 million
dollar Looney Tunes movie. I just don't.
But even that movie, the one that they just
did, even if they hit 10 plus 15, right,
that was kind of my earlier point.
Over the next,
you know, three or five years
with the amount of time it's on streaming
and other things and licensing it and doing that,
you'd probably make money back and then make a profit
out of it. With the Looney Tunes one?
Yeah. Yeah.
If you already hit 10, you'll
probably crap out at like 12
in the theater, 13 in the theater. You'll
eventually make some stuff because the marketing wasn't how much marketing
I barely said anything so I bet you they'll wind up making money on it and but 50 is not
15 that's a lot um but I'm telling I think that you go into this it's like you go into Vegas
you know you're going to lose you know you're going to lose you just but it's a matter of do you win
in the long run that's the question yeah and they don't have any big real real big stars other than
Sina to promote it is will Forte yes people know Will Forte but he's not a big theatrical
movie star you know it's seen
was going to do a lot of promotion for it.
Yeah, I totally agree.
My last thing I want to discuss before we get into the questions here.
He'll see him.
We should discuss Warner,
WrestleMania before we move on.
But all right, so I mentioned this.
Speaking of Warner Brothers, Zazlov meets with potential Warner Brothers chiefs.
Warner Brothers Discovery CEO David Zazlov has reportedly started meeting with candidates.
Who could replace current Warner Brothers Pictures Studio.
Michael DiLuca and Pamela Abdi reports Bloomberg.
The trade says talks with these potential successors are very early and only at informal stage or the final decision on the future of Dulac and Abdi not yet made.
However, Robert Gibbs, the spokesperson for Warner Bros. Discovery said in a statement to the outlet,
the rumor of an imminent leadership change at the studio is not accurate, meaning we didn't want DeLuca and Abdi to see this.
because their contracts expire in 2026.
Zazov hired the pair to restore the standing of Warners in 2022,
but Warner Brothers pictures had struggled on the time since and more recently
has been several high-profile disappointments.
Zazov has been under pressure to shore up his company's share price
and so has reportedly been concerned over the movies due to spending on titles
with uncertain commercial prospects.
The next release for Warners is a Minecraft movie which opens
I mean, the Kool-A movie, I should say, which is on Friday,
and is projected to bring in more than 55 million domestically.
First reactions have started online today.
It's just the film was quirkier than expected with some surprise to enjoy it,
others seemingly loathing it, and all seemed to quite like Jennifer Kulage's romance.
See, I didn't like that.
And I'll tell you, one of those are set to showcase the 2025 films.
That Jennifer Kulage thing was so out of left field and is so unnecessary.
sorry and it's hilarious because we're sitting at dinner last night and my 13 year old says to my
little one is the best i wish i had been reporting she she says maisie what was the biggest
cringe moment from it and my she's eating her meatloaf she goes what's cringe and they're like
embarrassing like you don't really watch
she goes like like she knew
immediately she's like oh yeah she's like
the lady and the and the Minecraft character
like they love each other it's weird
back to eating I mean you love
I agree
totally agree
anyway back to this
I don't know why
I'm stupid big of
Zazlov
is I think two things here
one
frustrated
yes and you know
basically over losing money and also panicked and unsure and desperate.
Yes.
But I do think it's time for Duluca and Abdi to go.
Like they've made some really bad, really bad decisions.
Well, I think the most recent thing you saw with them, as I mentioned just a few minutes ago,
Warner Brothers pushing a lot of the Michael Deluca, Pamela Abdi content to later in 2025
or the bride moved to 2026.
because there was a report on,
from Kim Masters over there on Punk News,
breaking down all the problems
that were going on behind the scenes
with all of those movies
that were green lit with these high budgets
and that DeLuca apparently has trouble saying no
to these high budgets for these avant-garde artistic filmmakers.
Now, some people who exist in some fantasy man,
Candyland existence where, like, well, it's,
it's Paul Thomas Anderson, of course.
You'll give him $130 million.
It's nonsense.
You have to look at the reality of the business, the reality of their box office totals,
and adjust accordingly to what you give them to make a film because then you raise the expectations.
And you go, a Paul Thomas Anderson film that's $130 million with DiCaprio playing some kind of 80s revolutionary.
Really?
You know, so there's questions to be asked.
Do we need a musical about the bride of Frankenstein that's $100 million plus directed by Maggie Gillenhall,
who's directing her second film?
You know, it's just these questions come around on.
all of this stuff and you start to get concerned plus the batman part two stuff which they're in charge
of abdian deluca that's not jane dulauca that's not jane dulauca that is a lot of drama behind the
scenes going on here and i think zazlov wants to get people in there that he can control that want to
control the budgets uh and because he wants to streamline this thing to eventually sell it and so
that's the issues that are going on there it's creatives versus business which is always the battle
except Zazlob is very clearly a business guy coming out of TV,
and I think there's issues going on there with the battles behind the scenes.
And the James Gunn stuff is an X factor on all of this as well.
I'm so curious how this is going to pan out because it's like you've got to get those decisions of,
I mean, I'm telling everybody should watch that the studio show.
It really is so accurate how it works.
I remember certain conversations when I, I mean, 20 years ago, I worked at Warner Bros.
And it's like the type of things that are being said,
the way people make decisions, certain executives in a way that they make decisions, it's like laughable and it's
comedy. So I understand why you're doing what they're doing. And there are certain things that it's just
so relevant to what's happening today. But yeah, this whole thing, it's like, look, it's what we
talked about before with the Zegler situation. You're running a business. Yeah. It's a business. And you're
trying to make money. And it's like, and I saw a Snyder posted that thing, like what you can't do.
And this is the other thing that drives me nuts. There are a lot of times. Look, sexism,
racism is real like it's real sure it is real and it happens all the time but when you just casually
throw it out that that's the reason behind something it's damaging and what i mean by that is i think
abdice was talking about the maggie gillenhall thing and she said like oh it's it's funny that
there's other there's male directors that have had their first movie and then the second movie
they got a hundred million why doesn't she deserve it that's not what people are saying it's not
because she's a woman. It's because what did the first movie do? Like, here's an example for you,
you know, who got a big budget after her first movie or maybe everything made me after a second
movie was Greta Gerwig. Yeah. Earned. Yeah. It's nothing to do with being a man or a woman.
Got nothing to do with it. You can't say that stuff because you're challenged. Come up with a better thing.
That's not why. There's no one to say. You're 100% right, brother. I have to say I'm, you know,
I used to be one of these people that absolutely was like, yeah, it's this, yeah, it's that.
But like, as you spend more time over the last few years when more opportunities have been
available for women, for people of color, yes, it's not anywhere near where it was, where, you know,
people would like it to be.
But certainly there have been a lot.
We also have to remove this stigma of like anytime a woman fails or a person of color
fails or a black person fails, it's racism.
It's or gets criticized.
It's racism.
No, sometimes you got to, if you want to create a world where everybody is equal,
then the criticism must also be equal.
And if you're not criticizing because they're a woman
or you're not caking it in that, you know,
what we're talking about,
read between the lines, racism, sexism,
with those certain buzzwords,
then you've got to look at the criticism honestly.
And I think that is a valid thing to question
why the hell you're getting $130 or $100 million
for a musical about the bride of Frankenstein
that stars Jesse Buckley,
who I love as an actress,
but hardly anybody knows,
as in, you know, in terms of a big movie star.
So there's a lot of questions.
And this is not wrong.
But equality is being criticized equally.
Like, 100%.
But you just said it there, right?
It's like, there's like marketable things that you have to make as an executive.
If I'm Zazlov, I'm going, okay, wait a minute.
Why are we doing $100 million here?
And well, she did this.
She did that.
I was like, great.
But how are we going to make that money back?
That's like any business that you're going to do, whether it's movies or anything,
I'm giving you $100 million.
But how are we going to, A, make that money back?
and B, how are we going to make a profit on that?
So if I'm giving this to you, this is what I'm doing, how do I do that?
And you'll, well, they deserve it.
I don't give a sure what they deserve.
How are they going to make me money if I'm giving you the money?
Like, and we're not playing with just, well, it's the right thing to do here.
We're playing with, can we do the right thing and make money?
That's what you have to do if you're running a studio.
So to say, like, well, we're going to put so-and-so in the movie.
Like you and I have talked about many times, movie stars themselves don't necessarily.
necessarily buy the tickets, but if you have a premise and an idea or an IP or something along
the lines with a movie star in it, you're going to elevate your product.
So there's a great thing in the studio that this.
Have you seen?
How many episodes have you seen?
I finished the whole thing.
Okay.
So I've seen two.
And the one that I've seen is like, so essentially, Martin Scraise movie puts a particular
actor in there.
That's a great actor.
Yes.
But they want to go with a lot of money with this budget.
And they go, well, wait a minute.
And Catherine Hahn is the marketing person.
It's like, how in the world are we going to make money if it's that person?
We're not talking about how good of an actor the person is.
How are we going to sell it?
And if you're giving you $100 million, you've got to give me a way to make my money back.
And it has nothing to do with penis or vagina.
That's nothing to do with that.
I know.
That's the thing.
People, some fans and some people who are, you know, watching and reading all this stuff,
they live in this idea that movie studios are black box theaters that are taking a chance
on a one person show and they should give them all the money.
It's like, no, there's a reality here that you have to deal with.
And it's a case by case basis, by the way.
That's really important to remember as well.
There's no blanket statement on any of this.
It is who's involved, who's starring in it, what's the subject matter of the movie,
and how quickly can I get it done?
Are you going to be cost overruns?
And do I trust this director to do with it.
You don't see Greta Gerwood get in there.
Narnie, I think, is the biggest thing she's going to do budget-wise.
She made a billion dollars with the last movie.
She earned it.
And look, she built up and she had a pitch for Barbie, which Barbie were going to spend that kind of money anyway.
So we bring in, we bring in Greta Gerwig because they were going to do a separate Barbie movie with Amy Schumer.
They decided not to go that way.
It's a very smart idea.
Yeah, I agree.
And they decide to do it in a different way.
She comes in.
She pitches the idea that they want to do this.
Okay, we had a big budget for it.
It's like, well, I need this.
Okay, we hired you.
You're on.
You did your last movie did good.
We think you're a really good.
you got the gig and you have $120 million or whatever it is.
Earned.
Earned.
Right.
Anyway.
So there's a lot to be said.
And I think that that's the kind of an end.
And if I'm Zazloff, and I see that is the answer that you gave in the trades.
It's another reason for me to go, okay, let's find somebody else to do this because this,
this person is, she, her and Duluk, they're unraveling right now.
They're unraveling.
I think they're already playing for the next job they're going to have because Zazlov is a very well-known.
own right winger. And if you want to start playing the identity politics with him. Hold on. Let me just
say that Barbie, I didn't say that Barbie was going to make that money. Barbie was going to have that
budget regardless. Right. Right. Because of the towel and it's a big. Nobody said it was going to
nobody knew it was going to make that money. Nobody thought it was going to be they knew the budget they
were going to have. So maybe they were referring to someone else and not me. I don't know.
Yeah. Maggie Gyllenhaal, the lost daughter made $703,000. Okay. That's the, oh, sorry, the budget was
five million it made seven hundred three thousand dollars so it underperformed right it got a nomination for
but it underperformed the loss gone right right right so that's the thing so you're gonna hand her
a hundred million dollars and i think that's where zaslo in a way is like wait i these creatives
are getting a little out of control with the or these insects with handing the money to these creatives
we got to pull this back if i'm going to make any money because i can't keep operating at a loss
you know yeah a hundred percent so a lot of great topics here today
Yeah, make sure you, you're already making your thoughts to know.
We already have 55 questions we're going to get to.
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Let them start the week out. Good. Doug, the developer. With adolescents taking the world by storm,
what shows movies have made you most nervous about what's to come as a parent. Broker just pretend you're a dad.
Is I didn't see. I don't watch adolescents. I didn't see it. I didn't watch. Um, so, uh,
what's the euphoria? I don't watch those things because I like my mental health. So I'm not going to see those movies. How about that?
I'd recommend it.
Oh, yeah, that's that good?
It's so good.
It's the best show I've watched this year.
And who's the show?
Who's in that?
Stephen Graham.
Remember him?
He's the sidekick for Jason Statham in Snatch.
He's also the guy who plays one of the Italian mobsters going up against Pacino in the Irishman.
And he's a really good actor, man.
Fantastic actor from Liverpool.
And it's all British actors.
And it's every episode is shot as one shot.
It's only four episodes, and it's about a 13-year-old kid possibly killing a female classmate of his.
It's a commentary on masculinity and commentary on the systems that raise our children and people as parents raising their children, how difficult life is right now to do that.
It's a really good one.
Okay.
Speaking of the TV shows, did you start watching, is it mob land?
Is it the name of it?
The one last night?
Yes.
Hell yes.
It's great.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
It's so good.
Yeah, Tom Hardy, Helen Mirren, yet again in another Parable Plus show, and Pierce Broston,
all really good.
But then there's a bunch of British actors that I've seen in the number of things.
So like Patty Constantine, who's in House of the Dragon.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's so much good talent throughout this, and it is so well done.
I'm going to reach out to Paramount today and see if I can get the whole season as screeners.
Yeah, yeah.
This first episode was amazing.
So, yeah.
Okay, I want to see it.
Carlton Rudder.
What's up, Carlton, London, Colin?
Love Minecraft.
Seeing the movie?
Hell no.
It looks like a fart box.
John, did you buy AC Shadows?
It was Assassin Creed.
Yeah.
The indie game on PS5.
I'm waiting for it to drop down a little bit, but I will be buying it soon.
Because there's like three games.
I've got to get the Tiger Woods game,
the Assassin's Creed game, and then the WWE game, the new WWE game.
So my Twitch will probably be firing up very soon and blowing some dust off that.
Hank Pim.
I think Jimmy got more heat with.
one slap last week. Jimmy
Uso saved that entire
match
because no one
cared and then they made the botch
part of the story.
Thoughts on
two night and he said, I want to make my point to say.
Two night, PLEs,
I prefer Romania was one night.
I think if you want to get everybody on the roster
two nights is the way to go.
One night with everybody because you're trying to get
everybody on the roster is exhausting. If you're only
going to do what they used to do when you
me like look no you make it to the to the main event you make it to the show yeah if people
give a shit and you got one night and you make it you know like old school but there's too much money
involved in it two nights you can sell it out both nights you can make that kind of money both nights
two nights and then you get a lot and and that way you can keep the stars happy and you have two main
events my point and where's that guy been by the way where's the guy that was arguing about the
how how much j uso was a main event guy where's he been he was he was fighting me tooth and nail about how
of a main event and how over Jay Uso was.
So much over, they don't even make them the main event a night one.
They give it a punk's, uh, Rollins and Roman Raines,
which by the way is the right call.
Agreed. Agreed.
Diminishing the heavyweight title in, uh, in the, you know,
the whole, the whole thing. It's like, come on. It's so clear.
He'll get the crowd going like this. They'll go nuts. They'll go crazy. They'll go crazy.
And then the match will be okay. Maybe whatever happens. And then maybe he's,
going to win which i think is again a mistake hopefully they see this and go no can't put the belt on
but they will um and then he'll lose it in like two or three months when it doesn't have a good run
yeah yeah yeah so where's that guy been he was so loud and vocal about how how it was the right
he changed his handle like i'm with you i like the two pl a main events because a it gives us more
time to have with these other wrestlers and that they're not being shoved in into five-minute matches
they're getting a chance to show what they can do over two nights.
Plus, I don't want to hear everybody complaining who love the five and a half hour
Marvel reveal of the cast of Doomsday that there's a two-night premium live event for a
WrestleMania because arguably WU's morning the weekend.
Was there anybody who loved that though?
What, the Marvel chairs?
Yes, there's a lot of people who love.
Loved it?
I was surprised by yes.
Really?
I was surprised by how many people liked.
It turned out to be a brilliant,
marketing thing, even though at first I thought it was a horrible marketing.
I think it still did it get better. It turned to be beautiful. It cost them nothing.
And we all sat around like, it gets watching it for six hours. So, you know, jokes on us.
Yeah, true. EWalk,
congrats to veteran character actor Tommy Flanagan for landing the key role of Lord Roderick,
Dustin, in season three House of the Dragon. I don't know enough about Roderick. I can tell you that
I love, I love that show. I love House of the Dragon. I love it. I love season two.
Everybody didn't love it.
I loved season two.
Can't wait for you.
Good on Tommy Flanagan.
You get a roll in there.
I don't know.
I probably know Tommy Flanagan when I see his face.
But he's the guy who has the scar on his cheek, who was the, in Braveheart.
He's the one.
Oh, I know.
He has sex.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I claim the rights over the Holsbogh.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
I know the movie well.
Yeah.
He's in mobland as well.
He's in mobland as well.
He's in everything.
He was also in Guardians.
He was in Guardian.
Was he one or two?
which is the one where yeah when he is too he's in two yeah because he dies and everything
uh Hank Pim predictions for the finish of Ray and I out today yeah I mean
Bianca gets involved somehow yeah that's yeah is it is for the title right yeah yeah yeah
so what I missed I missed what happened how did she get a title shot already it's a it's
it's the rematch situation and all of that and so yeah and then with Bianca but
Bianca's going to mess it up so that EO retains, so it's going to be a three.
That's predictable.
Hank, prediction for Punk's favor.
Heyman will manage him for one last time.
We'll be at the triple threat.
I have no idea what the finish will be.
Heyman's got to turn on Roman rats.
He's got it.
It's just too boring to have him continue to work with Roman again and again and again.
Let Roman go off and do his own thing.
He's earned that at this point.
And who doesn't want to see Punk and Heyman together again?
Right.
I mean,
Heyman is the one that told him if you watch the highlights like,
hey, you are main eventing
WrestleMania, your dream come true, and he kissed
him on the forehead all in front of
Roman Wade's in front of the tribal chief.
So that tells you right there that like
they're setting something up between the two guys
for sure.
Let's see, Reggie Brown.
We're all just waiting for the Haley,
Ryan, and Hugh announcement.
Oh, for Hallie Barry.
I guess that there's, I guess that there was one of the
stories we didn't cover, but one of the reasons
they said that they didn't announce more names
is because the contracts aren't all that done yet.
Yeah, Jeff said that on the hotline.
He said, like, the reason you know I hear in the names is because they haven't locked down everybody,
and they're going to be, they haven't locked down the script.
They're going to be switching lines around as soon as they lock people down.
Miguel Zane.
Hey, do you guys agree that the roosters are not great filmmakers,
but they're pretty good movie director, especially studio movies,
haven't liked any other movies outside Marvel.
Hope they don't do X-Men.
Well, you know what's funny about that, though, Miguel?
I guess in in 2019, if I told you, they were going to direct X-Men, you would have lost your mind.
It's because of the movies afterwards.
So, and I don't necessarily know if the, because I think the movie, the films, the movies that they've done outside of Marvel, I don't necessarily know if you call them film.
There's still big budget movies.
But the question is, are they pretty good Marvel movie makers is the question.
And I think that will be judged.
doomsday if doomsday is phenomenal everybody here john roca included is going to
shut their holes and they're going to say these guys okay they're marvel directors they know what
they're doing marvel and that's it bring on seagre wars and then if secret wars is awesome
everybody's going to be saying bring on x-men yes true right and saying make sure
faggy stays in control because right right right um sean macaabe got to meet
Sean McCabe during the yeah we had the live Q&A last week and Sean jumped in
asked a question part of the part of the member tier you can jump in and video question in
and Sean did just that hey guys had a lot of fun the other day great to join in when I finally could
I guess now I can emphasize with Kalanowski's internet issues your internet was better than is
like that Calaniskes's internet is the pits well it's because of where he lives that everyone's
sharing the same thing and it's the problem with Vogel all the time on geek
When you live in a complex where everybody is sharing your stuff,
it is really tough to have a very strong internet,
no matter how much you pay for it.
Renetta,
Hey, guys,
I hope your weekend was great.
Thank you,
Renetta.
I just watched Daredevil episodes 5 and 6 yesterday.
Oh my God,
the shit was fire.
Holy hell,
phenomenal.
The way he came out of the lights and that subway train damage.
It was great.
I'll tell you what,
the last episode.
Did you want,
have you seen,
have you seen 7 yet,
John?
I've seen them all.
Seven.
I'll just,
I don't want to give anything away.
Um, it just, I don't want to give anything away because we haven't seen it,
but there's something that happens with Daredevil and a villain in an apartment complex.
I'll just say that.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yes, yes.
We're making the turn.
Eight and nine are going to blow people's socks off.
Eight and nine are, I liked eight and nine a lot.
You didn't love seven, seven to me.
No, no.
I'm saying, yeah, seven leading into eight nine.
Better, better, better.
Yeah, I'm loving the show.
I'm loving.
Renad, I watched the studio yesterday to see what the hype is about.
I'm in watching the second episode tonight.
I don't know what it is about Catherine Hahn.
Because Catherine Hahn is so funny, great actress, beyond sexy.
I don't know how she does it.
She's so sexy.
Well, it's proof positive that she has always been this talented.
Oh, yeah.
It's just you had to find the right material, right?
Because like in Anchorman, she's very funny in the limited amount of time she has an
anchor man as Christina Applegate's Confidon.
But, you know, stuff in like when a date with Ted Hamilton, she was good in that movie.
So there are just some actors that are supremely talented and you just got to get him into the right material and they'll explode.
And sure enough, yeah.
Totally agree.
Okay, let's see.
So, oh, this is funny.
Melissa, before I mentioned the marching man with severance, it's not the band itself.
It's not the band itself.
It's something happens.
The band keeps playing.
That's all I said, the band keeps playing.
So why does the band keep playing?
She would be like, wait a minute.
I can't, I don't want to get into it.
The band keeps playing.
And I was like, that's so stupid.
Why is the band keep playing?
Jason Ashcroft,
just got finished reading the leak script.
My initial thoughts are,
I'm glad they're readjusting.
Certain elements like Kang becoming beyonder,
Kang is cool,
but I'm glad they're going a different way.
Yeah, I think we all feel the same way.
It's just having confidence that at that time
they could have pulled that off is like slim to none.
Yeah.
Slim to none.
It's a reason why they went back to get the Rousseau.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a reason that way they went back to get the Rousseau's,
because nobody could crack this shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jason Ashcroft again.
While reading it, though, they included Miles Morales,
was Spider-Man 4 supposed to come out before Kang Dynasty?
I wonder if that element remained for Spider-Man 4.
Thanks, guys.
I think, yeah, I think Miles is going to wind up showing up in the new Spider-Man movie.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think so.
I think they're going to try to keep, they should.
They really should keep that quiet, though.
I mean, Jeff will probably get a hold of it or something, too,
but they need to try to keep it quiet.
I mean, look, Jeff was sitting on that thing that blew up or up at Supervan over the weekend.
They didn't pay attention to it.
They announced like who Jorrell was, right?
I don't want to know.
I don't want to know.
Jeff knew that days ago.
We talked about it off, you know, off the mic, off record.
And but we weren't going to do it because Jeff said, I don't want to spoil things.
I'll, I'll discover things and I'll report things.
But if a film is already showing and screening for certain people, I'm not going to spoil stuff.
But clearly other people don't have that same kind of compass and revealed it, which is,
such a shame you know i how i how i avoided it i avoided it i avoided it i don't want
yeah i know probably by by june or july right by jane aschcroft reminded me a duel of faith
script interesting ideas and concept horrible dialogue overall i'm glad we're moving on from the script
yeah but the difference is duel of fates wasn't replaced by anything with any better dialogue
fair fair that's the difference hopefully this the dialogue is a lot better here somehow how patina's
fred.
Stephanie, March 30th was the 35th anniversary for the OG Teenage New
Turtles.
That's crazy.
Love that movie.
So did I.
Do you know that was Ethan Irwin's original entrance song in, uh,
would love to see a darker version like that again,
closer to the comics, as would I.
Although I like the last,
wasn't the last live,
no, they didn't do a live action.
What's the last live action?
What was the last live action?
I don't remember.
You think the OG,
Teenage Boot Ninja Turtles is dark.
It was darker.
Nowadays.
I mean nowadays, no, but for that time, it was.
It was a darker movie.
It was less, it was.
Corey Feldman's voice, but they did have,
but they did have some, like,
themes in there that was, it was more like a serious
movie than it was goofy.
Yeah.
What was it? I just heard. Did you know? I saw this on a,
on a podcast clip or something.
Okay. I didn't do this, that Corey Feldman
was cast as Gilbert Grape.
not good of Grave, not good for, but the kid in cover.
He was, I didn't know that.
Did you know that?
I did not know that, but I'm glad they didn't leave him in there and let Leo do his thing.
Apparently, much better actor than Corey.
Sure, but I mean, don't forget, though, that Corey Feldman was pretty damn good back then.
He was pretty good.
Yeah, nostalgia.
Really?
You don't think he was good and stand by me?
You don't think he was good than Corey Feldman.
And I thought Corey Feldman was good and stand by me, sure.
But, like, you know, all the kids were good in that movie.
also it's about stepping up to train come on you walk might marvel be hesitant on including
ryan reynolds and avengers giving recent events or is he basically immune because they
deadpool wolver he made a billion dollars well the last part of your statement yes um made a billion
dollars people like deadpool and by the time that movie comes out as i met in my earlier point before
that will not be the topic of the day anymore yeah i agree that'll be settled that's why they're
trying to get out of that lawsuit because they know they're sinking like stones right now but look you
You can't deny Ryan's power if Channing Tatum is showing up in secret, in Dube's day.
Right, right.
My choice.
Yeah.
I don't understand people's dislike of Morgan Wallen.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Hasn't you just done a bunch of dumb things when he's drunk?
Let me ask you a question, John.
Yeah, sure.
Who's Morgan Wallen?
So Morgan Wallen is a country news.
But he clipped this out, please.
Morgan Wallen.
He just on Saturday Live and he walked off the state.
That was okay.
He's a very well-known country music artist.
He's part of that new.
That's a well-known.
New country.
Yeah, fair point.
New country music, to me, it's New Country Musak, because this new country music is not great.
It's so, it's so bland and sounds the same.
But he's a big star of it.
And he had originally been asked to be a part of SNL, like 2019, 2020.
Then it was during COVID and he did some stupid stuff.
And they kicked him out.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It'll raise this comment, I think.
Yeah, yeah.
You got caught in a bar or something.
Yeah, yeah.
So they brought him back to do a performance.
He did two songs.
And at the end, he walks off the same.
stage. He doesn't hug any of the cast members, doesn't say thanks, doesn't say anything,
says I'm leaving Mikey Madison, then walks off like a whiny little bitch. And I hated seeing
that. And then he posted an Instagram story with his private jet saying, I'm going back to God
country. And it was so ridiculous. And now his people are coming out saying, oh, it wasn't any
kind of slight. He just had to get back. Bullshit. He was playing to his base, which is so,
again, like we said, everything is politics. It's so frustrating.
You took the check.
Just sit there on the stage.
Derek, where you been, buddy?
They're on support.
Thank you, Derek.
Appreciate that.
Derek's the best.
Felix, finally watching Black Bad guest train.
It's easy my favorite of the year.
So far, Kate Blanchett is great in it.
Did you see that one?
Haven't yet.
That one's coming up this week, too.
No, I haven't seen it.
Derek, coming back in,
hope you all, have you all read these John Boya comments about
black people existing in Star Wars?
I could completely feel,
and understand the frustration he felt in general.
What were some of the comments on? Can you paraphrase me?
Yeah, basically he was just saying that, you know,
Star Wars fans and Star Wars itself loves black characters to be the best friend,
but not be the lead, not Trailblaze, not be the star.
And every time someone says, well, what about Sam Jackson or what about Landau Calrissian?
He's like, you're trying to count the chocolate chips in a cookie, or cookie dough, is what he said.
And where, so he feels, and I think there's validity to what he's saying to a degree.
and he just basically said that it's a white-led type of franchise
which doesn't allow or create space for people of color to lead or be the stars.
And, you know, I think there's a lot of validity in what he said in certain ways.
Not 100%, but I think there is a lot of what he said that makes sense.
I think I can understand the frustration of it for sure.
And it also comes down to writing, casting, and how things,
and we've tried to hear about this at length.
You can put a character in that, you know, it's just doesn't matter if they're
white black tina chinese japanese who cares like if the character's good and that's that that is but
when it feels sometimes they're like well they just don't want to get yelled at yeah you know that to do
that and when you overdo it like it seemed to me yeah and maybe i'm wrong you can correct me from
wrong here but with like the acolyte yeah yeah yeah every white person was a moron or for the most part
every male was a more every male every white male was a moron or got or or
or was bad or got killed or something like that.
Carian Moss clearly not.
But it seemed like that.
It's like, okay, I understand.
I get it.
But it's like you can also do a balance of it.
Yes.
You know what I mean?
Like do a balance.
And like that to me,
like you know what's a perfect deal?
Look at like stranger things.
Right?
Stranger things to me.
It's like no one's saying like,
why they have a black friend?
What are they doing that?
And Lucas is great.
Lucas is one of the most important characters in the whole show.
Yeah.
And his character has grown.
as the seasons have gone on.
Yeah.
Chris A.
Just moved down for the first time.
Have any advice?
Be responsible.
Me and the dad right now.
Be careful.
You know, like just do your thing.
Set goals.
I tell myself,
as you know, set goals.
Know what you're going to do.
You know what you're going to do.
Like, you know, and enjoy your freedom.
Enjoy your freedom.
But like, still, but enjoy the responsibility is what I say.
You know, have fun.
Be young.
but enjoy your responsibility.
I say immediately find the mental health center in L.A.
that does...
He just said he moved out for the first time.
Oh, moved out for the first time.
I thought he said even got to L.A.
No, no.
For the first time, then, yeah, I would say,
make sure you watch your money.
Yes, you can splurge occasionally,
but be really clear with your money.
That's the most important thing
because you're going to be surprised
at how much the expenses pile up
in ways that you didn't anticipate.
And so you must always have a little bit of reserve to help you out in certain moments because you never know what can happen.
And crazy shit happens when you move out on your own.
It's so true.
Jim 1. Pedro, I assume he's Pascal, can say Rachel Ziegler's an icon all he wants, but would he be willing to put his salary on or reputation on or reputation on or line to get her apart in Mando?
I bet you he, I don't know about his salary because everyone always says that.
Put your salary on.
Isn't it that easy?
Just put your money out there.
But when it comes to his put his reputation on and to try to get her part in one of these things,
Marvel is I bet you he would put the word out for her because he he seems to fall in her side of the aisle
Yes so like yeah now the question is like you know if if he feels at someone the other side of that clearly
I mean he was he was friendly with Gina and I don't even think that they you know he tried to explain
the trans situation to Gina when she was making her comments and you know clearly she didn't fully
listen or want to or care and you know he's got a trans sister who was of course male is now
and and and and we know the rumors around pedro I think
we can be very clear about that and so this this we know where he falls but this idea that you
you think you think he would fight for zegler mando is a step down for zegler okay zegler is a star
leading films okay whether you like it or not she is going down to be in mando doesn't make any
sense at all to play an ensemble character but that's the other thing though too you can put her
in in movies that's just going back to our previous conversation yeah if we were gonna like
Look at something like the Hunger Games, right?
Like Hunger Games, she has a big role, but it doesn't rely on her.
It's a massive role.
It's a good, it's a well-made movie.
It's a very, yes.
And it also, but it's, it's, it's, it's snow's story, right?
Right.
Yes.
So, like, right now, I think that you're like, hey, look, we're putting, we want this.
We want to put, we want to, I mean, even though the movie was not great, but like Shazam, what she did in Shazam.
So she was great in that movie, she's good.
She's, I think he's really good.
She's damn.
I just.
I just wouldn't have right now.
I got to agree with Christian a little.
When it comes to employees doing political stances on my time and money,
heck no, however, she can do whatever she feels on her own time.
It's not violent against law.
Couldn't agree more.
Couldn't agree more.
But if I'm hiring you, it's just driving me nuts about Schmo down.
I mean, I didn't pay them.
Oh, yeah.
I didn't pay people a fraction of what she was getting paid to do.
But I'm like, what are you guys doing?
We're trying to sell a show.
We're trying to get everybody to like the characters.
You're going out there insulting people.
Why are they going to root for you?
They're going to want you to lose the match.
What are you doing?
It's like that.
Yeah.
So I had dealt with that shit all the time.
It was one of the most stressful things.
I hated doing it at the end.
Especially at that time during a pandemic,
everybody was going after each other.
And oh my God, you say, everyone after me,
someone says something,
why you let the person say that?
I'm like, well, maybe they should, maybe should suspend them.
Hey, Christian, it's HR.
We should fire him.
What the hell are you talking about?
I can, we're going to let him go.
Okay.
What'd you do that?
What'd you do them?
I'm going to do my own channel.
And that's what I did.
Chris Kossack, excited that my New York Jets have moved on from Rogers.
Yeah, for real.
What are your thoughts on the potential of the new era with Aaron Glenn and Justin Fields?
Thanks and keep up the great work.
Work.
Thank you.
John, go ahead.
It's been a while since we've seen Chris.
So nice to see him.
I like that avatar with the photo with the picture with the camera.
Here's what I say two things.
One, I think Aaron Glenn, you've got yourselves a great coach there.
It's going to take him, you know, a couple years, three years, I think, to really get the Jets where he wants them to be.
But there's a lot of talent on that side, regardless of their record last year.
Rogers was a clown and he's going to be a clown wherever he goes.
Justin Fields, though, man, I don't think he's your answer, but you're only committed to him for one year.
Yeah, you've guaranteed him 30 and he's got a $40 million contract, but you're really only committed to him for one year.
So if he shits the bed this year, you can move on from him.
They're probably going to draft a quarterback in the draft the Jets.
So I think the future looks bright with Aaron Glenn in charge of things.
And once Woody sells the owner sells the team, which he's planning on doing,
I think you're going to see a whole new thing happen with the Jets,
just like the commanders did when Snyder finally sold our team to people who actually gave a damn about our product.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Derek, I also want to add to my earlier comment as long as it isn't racist either, of course.
Right, yeah.
Of course.
All right, 70 questions so far, John.
pretty damn good day for you man it's good start or monday as we're already half an hour in uh lorne l i've heard christian say
sydney is essentially mid whereas i've heard roca said she can win an oscar please debate i actually
had someone comment on this saying that well christian can't say anything about uh this this and this
no he said no this what he said well you've only seen madam webb so you can't say that she's a mid
actress i never said that i said what i said was all i can do is judge off of what i've seen
I have never seen utopia.
I've never seen all these other things.
So I can't judge.
What I can tell you, what I was talking about more so is like,
do I think she's a very, you know, an attractive woman?
She is.
Is she my type?
No, not.
But I think she's attractive, but she says, not my time.
Do I think she's a great actress from what I've seen?
Not really, because I've only seen Madam Webb.
So I can't really say whether or not I think she can win an Oscar, can win this,
can win that.
I've not, I haven't seen enough.
But you've seen enough.
You think she, you think she's pretty good.
I think so.
I think that Christy Martin film is going to really show us what you can really do.
And I thought what she did in that HBO Max show,
I think reality is what it was called on.
She was fantastic.
You're playing Martin,
the boxer?
Yeah.
She is playing Christy Moore in the biopic.
Yeah.
You didn't see you.
You have heard this.
Yes.
Yes.
Chrissy Martin was a tough,
a tough woman.
Not that Sydney,
Sweden can't play tough,
but they're better to Charlie Taron,
Monster style.
Yeah, there are pictures out there, bro.
You've got to,
you've got to watch.
I'll check it out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, yeah, I love her.
Wait, are you telling me you would take Julie Roberts over Sydney Sweeney?
Is that you're still, are you making that?
If I was single and Julie Roberts, of course.
And Julie Roberts at 57 or whatever she is or Sydney Sweetie today, come on, what I'm going to?
Of course I'm taking Julia Roberts.
100%.
You're an insane person.
Maybe so.
All right.
Derek Johnson.
Hey.
Support.
Let up Derek.
Jared.
Thank you.
Dude.
Thank you so much for that.
Wow.
Can't put all these chunks in today.
busy financial market has literally gasping for air helpful to print off your social security
statements from online before they mysteriously are changed thank you sir oh okay thank you
thank you derrick look at derrick you're the absolute best matt that was nice there i think on both
on both the donation and for the tip matt did interview check out mowland on paramount i brought
it up through john i guess he did we'll need a new show on there when 1923 ends next week and
this might be it i missed last night's episode of 1923 i can't wait to watch that season two's been
Have you watched the 1923?
Two.
1923 is awesome.
So I have to watch 1883 to watch 1920?
I mean, the only, although I'll tell you, you would love 1883.
Okay.
1883 is so up your alley.
Holy shit, it's up your alley.
It's like a full on old school Western, but not only is Faith Hill and Tim McGrath.
They're so good in it.
I couldn't believe it.
They're great in the setup to the Dutton's and all that.
But Isabel May, the, the,
fact that she has to starve she i don't want to it there's like a small tie-in a small
tie-in but you're not lost if you haven't seen it but i would i would it's only one season i would
highly recommend i think i think you'd love it i really do i think you'd love it um but i do want to
watch i am going to watch mobland for sure yeah it's so good bro jim one the wicked cast didn't
bash the original like zegler that's true that's fair what original what original there's no
There wasn't an original film.
The play.
Right.
They didn't bash the original play.
Of course,
because they wanted to be a part.
They didn't bash Wizard of Oz.
Imagine it was where I was dated and they said it's crap.
I don't know.
I'm kind of,
dude.
I think,
I think going after the original was a major error.
I agree with you 100%.
I agree with you 100%.
I agree.
However.
But it's a good point.
Yeah,
they didn't go after the original.
Even though it really has nothing to do with the Wizard of Oz until the second part.
But yes, I hear what you're saying.
You hear what you're saying.
Like if they would have started crapping on it like,
like, well, the witch was this and this and this.
It's like, what are you doing?
What are you doing?
Derek Johnson, support. Thank you, Derek.
Mike Joyce. I watched Arthur in 1981.
I thought it was delightful. Definitely.
Why would they remake it with the most annoying person ever?
Is the Russell brand version good?
I am in the minority.
I like that.
I did.
I liked it.
I saw it with my buddy Aaron at the time.
And I liked it.
I liked it.
I was so mad.
I hated that remake because I love the original so much.
Yeah. And I, again, I'm very glad Greta Gerwig has founded careers as a director because I hated her as an actress. Most boring actress ever.
Who is? Greta Gerwig. Remember, she's the one. She sure is. She sure is. So, yeah, I thought it was not a good remake, but yeah. Fair enough.
E. Rock. Hey, Kristen, was the last time you thought about Harlov Minor. I'm surprised I didn't blown it up yet. Any new references in any Star Wars books, comics? I haven't. I haven't. I haven't. I haven't.
And I bailed on reading all those when I found out that it was essentially they were lying
everybody.
Like, I think if you're just reading those novels and those comics, you just want stories and
you just want to be entertained, you're like, I just want to, you know, I don't need
anything to tie in.
I just want to watch it.
I just want to read it.
I want to do those things.
By all means, they have some very talented writers over that they're doing just that.
Then when they took over in 2012, they gave you this promise that like everything that
was comics, video games, novels, it was all.
connected so you're going to get rewarded in canon wise to this will tie into this and you'll have
this and they'll make it part of the movies and tv and they don't care about that they don't they've said
well if it makes sense here it will but if not we're just negate that and doesn't right and
clearly doesn't go shit about the the books or the or the comics um so that's why it's kind of
i was very much into them because when i when i believed the uh the the false advertising at front
But as far as Harlef minor, my kid, the little one, she's reading like a champ now.
And she wanted to, and I showed her that.
She thought it was cool.
And I always thank Claudia, you're great for that.
El Wrenshaw, not surprised at Snow White Tanging.
Zegler's fault.
I don't think it's completely her fault.
But I think she's, I feel like she's got a lot.
I think she has a lot of fault.
I think I feel she has more fault than she feels.
Yeah, I think she's got a lot of fault.
Yeah.
I think the lot of fault is how crappy the movie is.
I think that has a lot to do with it.
I think you can argue that there's some fault with her,
but also their reviews destroying Gal Godot.
You know what's crazy?
No one's talking like that.
That could be the reason because she's so terrible in the movie.
You just answer,
but you just answered your own question.
You just,
because she did so much.
Right.
If it was,
if she didn't say a damn word about it and she was,
because she's good in the movie,
if she would have done what she did,
and the movie was as bad as it was or whatever.
Like,
I still,
I still think it was a fine remake of that she was,
okay and there's a lot of problems with it
whatever but
if she wasn't
everyone would just be talking about how bad
Galgado was nobody would be talking about this because
they'd be like well she was good the movie just wasn't
great and they'd be and what they would do
and look at a little mermaid right
a little mermaid which didn't make it
I think it just broke even or whatever it did
is it how I always get it wrong
it's a Hayley Hallie Bailey
Helly Bailey
She was
just thrown over the cold because she was black playing little mermaid right and she just so she and
she was able to just she just did her thing she's saying she now she would have gone out using her
example if that movie did what it did and then she started shitting on the original movie and she started
going after everything and saying political stances that movie would have done worse than it did don't you
disagree no i don't disagree that uh i think it would have had trouble for sure yeah but yeah yeah
yeah yeah uh germy darr hope all as well opinion on hulk
versus Superman. Those the ones that were made back in the day, those YouTube videos,
were great. Love those videos. That's what you're talking about. You ever see those,
John? Oh, they're awesome. I think that's what he's talking about. Nathan Drake,
only one more episode of 1923, and supposedly there's no season three. That really sucks.
I love this show so much. Is that true? There's no season three. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't follow 9-10-23. I wonder how the, I wonder how the ratings aren't if that will change.
It could just be that they can't lock down Harrison for more than, you know what I'm saying?
I'll tell you what.
He's not the star of the show.
Okay, fair.
Brandon Scler is the star of that show.
Right.
He's the star.
And in season one, they sold it on Harrison Ford.
Harrison Ford is a big role, obviously.
And so is Helen Mirren.
Brandon Scunar is the star of that show.
And they could cast the whole damn thing around him in the next season.
Just make it about him if they wanted to.
Yeah.
Harrison Ford's character craps out.
Yeah, and you probably lose some people.
But you'll keep a lot of people because he,
If that people who are watching, people are watching for him now.
Taylor Sheridan is why people are watching.
That's true.
Brandon Scler are spin off.
You can make it work.
There's been a hundred percent.
Yellowstone.
Yeah.
And where it's,
I don't even know where it leads into where,
because the funny thing is,
I didn't watch Yellowstone.
I've seen like two episodes of Yellowstone,
but I've watched all 1883 and I've watched on 1923.
I like those better.
Nathan Drake, Daredevilverse Muse was great,
but little too late for me.
Who thought it was a good idea to take five episodes for him to put the back of the suit?
I disagree because I think that I think the whole what let me ask you John can I ask you
sure what is the name of the show daredevil born again that's why that's why it was a good
idea because it's called born again the whole point is in the first episode what happens
leading up to where it goes and there's still about eight so five episodes left or whatever
it is yeah I just think there was a lot of conversation out in the social media world that it was like
well he didn't even wear his suit until the fourth episode so yeah there was a lot of people
were upset about that so you know they because there were already people worried that they were
going to screw it up because of how he was in she hulk so you know it's a lot of noise man it's a lot
of noise but i agree with the progression that makes sense i i love the way that they did it again
i mean i see them in the minority why so cidious in our podcast what's up favorite on-screen
comic villain ever. I mean, hard to not say
Heath Ledger's Joker. We're talking about all time.
We're talking about MCU, Thanos.
Although Kilmonger, if Kilmonger had stretched out into more than one movie.
Sure.
Tomliners was great. The Thanos was just, I remember
I remember that there were so many lackluster villains and then Kilmonger came along and
he was like, he's the best. And then within one movie, I was like, he's been to
throne.
Shea Markell.
man, I genuinely feel we won't get another series of solid MCU projects until the mutant
saga begins. It'll just be a series of mid until then. Well, there's really not that many left.
There's really not many left. And I think that, what? No, sorry. Go ahead. Sorry,
question. I was going to say, look, look, if you've got, if you've got right now, Thunderbolts,
which I think is going to be pretty good. Yeah. I think it'll be good. Fantastic for we'll make
the most. We'll see if it's any good, hopefully. But those are still two, they got a lot of promise with
those two. Yeah. And after that, it's Avengers Doomsday, which
could be great.
Then you have Spider-Man.
People will be excited for that.
And then you've got Secret Wars,
and that's it.
Yeah.
And then you're into the Mutant saga.
So I don't know about Mid.
I think you got a chance,
you got a chance to get it all back together if you do it right.
I think it's actually going to surprise a lot of people how good Thunderbolts is and Fantastic Four is.
And I think those are the things that will lead very excitedly into Avengers doomsday.
And so I think people are going to be whistling a different tune by the time Doomsday comes out.
Yeah.
Excitement.
You can't.
Don't forget that Doomsday comes out next year.
No final script.
Well, we'll, we'll see on that.
I mean, I'm still, I'm not, I don't put any stock into like, well, you know,
they don't have a finished trip.
They have an idea what they want to do with the movies.
They'll, they'll get the script on with the pages.
There's lots of movies that they, I mean, there's tons of movies that were, they're writing on the
freaking day of and that have them.
done really well mark it's
Antonio Castillo we need a Henry
Cavill Beyonder MCU Secret Wars
you don't like Cavill huh
I love Cabell as Superman
but I don't think he brings that kind of thing
that you need for Beyonder
in in the MCU
and I just it would be surprising
if that's who they went with if they do even
have Beyonder in this a new
approach but we'll see
we'll see I just beyonders
I'm essentially because Beyonder is kind of a
observer be a bit aloof at times.
Yeah. And not a, because he's lived so long that to him, this stuff is like, not a big deal
that's going on. So he could play that aloofness, I guess. But you need someone who's a little
more dialed in who's capable of a bit more complexity. And I don't think Cavill necessarily
has that. Okay, listen. I haven't seen. The thing that you said with me, and we've always talked
about it. Yeah. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I say it. Right? Yeah.
I'm wrong.
Look at that.
Yeah.
Look at that.
That's pretty good.
I told you.
That's pretty good.
Yeah.
That's pretty good.
Look at those guns.
I like what she's doing there.
Okay.
Okay.
Luke just sent me that.
And I was like, all right.
All right.
So you know what's up.
Let's see.
Let's see.
I'm very,
very interesting because Christy Martin, I watched a lot of.
Shea Markkel, I don't want to behave.
I'm still showing up for 100% of the MCU projects as a fan,
but I'm discouraged by.
by member Barry's nostalgia casting.
Yeah, I get it, but guess what nostalgia has done for the MCU?
It's the only way they've made money so far is through nostalgia.
Deadpool Wolverine, Guardians 3.
In the oil.
That's why they're making their money right now.
Miguel Zane, respect to both of you.
Thank you, Miguel.
The great John Roke, can we get at least two X-Men tidbits that you haven't reported?
Maybe one rumor casting of something else, always tuning in here and on the hot mic.
Well, John and I were talking about John's first.
probably going to host for me on Wednesday, we said.
So John's going to try to see if Jeff is available to maybe get Jeff on.
We're going to try.
If he can't, then we'll get somebody else for him.
But like, I'm going to start taking, I think, one day off.
And John is going to host one of those days.
But we're going to get him somebody to host with.
But that would be good.
We didn't even know what's tonight at what he's hearing.
Mike Joyce, thoughts on the Rizzler.
I don't get my people like him.
Rizzler.
Who's the Rizzler?
I don't know what the Rizzler is.
Is he talking about the Riddler?
Mike, sometimes we aren't all in your camp here with these references,
so I don't know what the Rizler is.
You might be talking about the Riddler?
Is it the Rizler?
No, it's a call maybe, but the Z and the D and the keyboard are far enough away from each other.
I don't know.
Shea Markell, I've learned how not to get all upset about these movies.
Your friend Sam has actually taught me a little bit about being a chill fan and just enjoy the ride.
I love the way she's watching.
I love it.
Like I remember when everybody was watching Wanda Vision and the I Love Lucy thinking of it was like,
what the hell is going on?
What is this?
Sam just bought into it right away and just like watch it like it was a 1950s sitcom.
It was the best.
It was the best.
She is absolutely just wonderful.
Jim one.
Death of a unicorn had six people in my showing.
I wonder how studios will try to reassure theaters at CinemacomCon that their non-IP movies can still draw money.
The honest answer is most of them can't.
It's really the answer.
Yeah. No, streaming.
Look, it's a reason why,
John, there's no world 15 years ago.
That happy Gilmore 2 gets released on streaming.
Yeah, no.
It looks good.
Yeah.
It looks good and it looks like a good continuation in
they're playing into what it was.
But you put that movie in the theaters.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Maybe you have a decent opening weekend,
but you're going to do better streaming it.
Everyone's going to want that is going to do
That's going to crush with streaming them.
Yeah, 100%.
100%.
You know, look, we just have, we have a great film that's out, apparently, from a lot of reviews.
Steven Soderberg, BlackBag is apparently an amazing film.
No one's going to see this.
No one's see it, right?
It's got to put them on streaming now.
You get more eyes on streaming now than you do because of the, and look, even yesterday,
dude, right, I went to the movie theater with my daughter.
Large popcorn is $18.
It's insane.
and people you're going to you want me to go spend money to go see a movie I don't
really necessarily know because it's not getting good marketing and death and you're
oh man's in it I'll go see it and Wednesday's in it I'll go see it right and I see it and I
spend all this money on I'm like oh yeah that was good movie but I spend this and now I can't
spend the money to go see the big blockbuster thing that I wanted to see in the theater right
it's like and for the average person it goes it's it's a different business these days it's
different yeah yeah j jay Skywalker have you guys ever had an unexplainable experience
waiting to ghosts UFOs etc.
it goes no but weird ever since I was doing UFOs there were two situations that I had one
outside of my house and processor and one in the in the backyard when I was there and it was like
there was there was this I posted both of them one like this left right up left right up
shot off and then there was the other one this big red kind of thing the sphere was not a
balloon. People like, well, the balloon. Definitely wasn't. And then went,
I was like, okay, I don't know what it was. I have no idea what it was. But yourself?
Oh, no, don't forget to mention how Brett probed you once. That was a,
that's true. That's that guy on the plane that the woman saw. She said,
that mother figure, there's not real. That was Brett.
It was Brett. I think the only interaction I've ever had was when my father passed,
the morning he passed, a bright light came into my room in the corner of my
movement as I was waiting for my friend to take me to the airport. It was like four in the morning,
right in the corner, and I noticed it, and then the light went away. And it wasn't like, you know,
headlight or something like that. It was a light that appeared and then left. And I've always thought
that was my dad saying goodbye. So that's the only experience I ever had with something like that.
Ewok, RIP to Richard Chamberlain, it's right. Yeah, star of the original show again, as well as the
Three Musketeers, The Towering, Frano, and Peter Weir's Last Wave. Didn't he also play Jason Bourne?
I don't recall if you put it.
I thought he made Jason born in like the in the night in their early 90s.
Look that up and you have to say I'm sorry if I'm right.
You know, I know I'm Thornebirds and of course,
towering inferno and definitely showgun.
Yeah.
But also a guy who was, who was gay.
And if finally came out in 2003,
I was able to speak about it and talk about it.
It was such an incredible interviews with him talking about his experiences with all of
that but what an amazing actor to establish himself throughout the decades of Hollywood TV and on
screen and you know in the end having to you know kind of hide who he was so you know there's a lot
of respect and love for the fact that he was able to succeed as well as he was and then into and then
a career in Broadway for years you know so yeah 90 years old or life well lived for sure well
so any news on that porn thing you apologizing to me or what the porn thing what though the born
thing oh no uh no oh yes the born i
identity TV miniseries. Nice. Good call, bud.
If Spider-Man winds up in Doomsday,
and I predict they'll recreate the scene from Winter Soldier where Steve
knocks off Bucky's mask. And Spidey will say Tony,
Downing goes, who's Tony? I hope they don't do a beat for beat.
I hope they don't do a beat for beat. Yeah, I hope not.
And wouldn't they say, Mr. Stark? Spidey would say Mr. Dark.
Because I feel like Doom would know all of it.
Dune would be tuned in to all this
and understand that he could use this stuff if he wanted to
also. So,
Doom's not a typical villain. Doom is extremely
intelligent. They're going to make him
like devastating, dude.
Bob Skywalker, I've just finished Star Wars
Lost Stars. What a great book. One of the best ever.
They should have made this into a movie. They were planning on it
or mini-scarred or whatever.
And then it was too, it's like baseball.
No one will get it. Okay. There's so many
books that could be great movies. Yes.
100%. Uh, go pal.
On tape delay today.
Have you seen Mobland? It's excellent.
Well, John has, and you really enjoyed it.
I will be watching it because the trailer.
I watched a trailer last night.
It looks right up my alley.
I'll be mad at myself if I don't watch it.
Everybody's allowed to yell at me next week if I haven't watched episode one.
Ewak, for April Fool's Marvel should do another chair announcement,
holding on Daniel Day Lewis's name for five hours in the panic.
I would love if they did something like that.
But they should pan over, but Pauly Shore should really be there.
Yeah.
He should call you, hey buddies.
should absolutely be there.
In the company store.
Just sitting in the main room.
It would be the best.
Shea Markell,
I wonder if the MCU will bring back
highly debatable opposing values like caps.
We don't trade lives for Thanos
and his balanced universe.
I feel like that's kind of what Doom needs to be, right?
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah.
All right.
Unknown.
Hey, Christian, did you see that Roka's favorite artist,
Drake, his new music group
being shot with IMAX?
I'm curious that this has been done before.
Have they shot?
I don't know if videos ever been shot in IMAX.
I don't know.
I don't know if it's ever been shot with IMAX.
But yeah.
Okay, cool.
I mean, Drake's going to do whatever.
He's got to do what he can do, I guess.
I would say Ian Smart brings a point that I didn't know,
because I don't know the movie,
but he says that the bride with Maggie Jelenhall's movie
also has Christian Bail in it.
He does.
Christian Bail and Jake Jillenhall.
Well, wait a minute.
So, I mean, but wait a minute.
Those, I mean, those are, those are two big names.
Yeah, but still a musical about the bride of Frankenstein.
I don't get a hundred million into that.
I don't disagree, but to say it doesn't have any star power, though, it's got star power.
Well, I meant as the lead.
The bride is the name of the film.
So it's about the bride, which is Jesse Hawley.
And that's what I meant.
I know as well as I do, though.
Sometimes you can put an unknown in the lead role if you have big enough stars around them.
Sure, sure, sure.
Isn't it justifies why I'm giving you more money for it.
It doesn't just,
musicals are hard to sell in general,
but my points earlier would have been a little different
because Christian Bail and Jake,
and that's going to save you some money,
because Jake's probably not going to take a lot of them.
Tell me the last big hit Christian Bail had.
Tell me the last big hit Jake Jelenhall had.
And don't get me wrong.
Well, I'm not telling you I liked it.
You know how much I dislike it.
The last big hit that Christian Bail had was Thor Laugh Thunder.
Yeah, but that wasn't him.
That was Thor.
wait a minute he's in the movie that's already but that's like me giving credit to christopher
echoston for how thor dark world did that doesn't make sense and it's about four
people are longer conversation shame i believe those opposing views made some of the best
mccu stories like civil wars government overreach versus the freedom to do what's needed i i agree
it made you you didn't have a clear sign we had adults in the room christian that's the thing
Like the thing frustrating over the last few segments of Marvel films is that we've kind of lost this idea of having these debates and these conversations.
And it's frustrating because there have been issues brought up both in Brave New World and in Winter Soldier and, sorry, yeah, Falcon Winter Soldier and a couple other shows that like, okay, let's tackle global issues with terrorism and revolutions and messing with people in the rich, messing with people who don't have money.
Also, racism.
Also, what it's like to be a black superhero.
they present all this stuff,
but they don't ever get deeper than surface level on this stuff.
Whereas what he's talking about,
Shea Markell,
they dove into that over multiple movies
and had multiple viewpoints on it,
leading all the Civil War,
which I thought was fantastic.
Armada,
Christian,
did you see that 4 a.m. influencer video.
No, I don't know what that is.
You know what that is?
No, I don't know what that is.
Sorry, Armada.
Shea Markele, I just finished reading June Messiah last month.
I have no idea how they're going to pull that movie off.
If you guys have any non-spoiler thoughts on this, never read it, don't want to know anything about it.
All I hear is that the book's really weird.
The book is weird, but I will say this.
People said the exact same thing about Denisville and Uva adapting Dune.
I don't know how they're going to do it.
And he did it.
So the fact that he was able to do it in a way that was successful with both those films,
I have a feeling he's going to figure out what to do, what to put in, what to not put in the Dune Messiah.
So I have faith in that.
Armada, if the influencer guy can get a Saratoga water stock to go up, I see it.
then Christian can do it with trade coffee.
I don't need the stock to go up.
I just need at least today on this stream,
there's 1,300 people watching right now.
Nice.
If 100 people bought trade coffee right now,
they'd be like, what the hell is going on?
If a thousand people bought trade coffee,
we'd have trade coffee for the next five years.
But everybody going to,
everybody go into the description and buy yourself some trade coffee today,
and I want them to say, what the hell's going?
El Wrencia, likely we get fantastic for this Friday.
Four and four, it makes sense.
no because Superman's going to be stealing the spotlight this this week oh yeah yeah
Superman trailer is going to hit and they're not going to want to be in the way of that yeah
yeah superman and mission impossible I imagine mission impossible yeah
Shane Markell what sport would you like to see a movie about I'd like to see a movie about
skydiving or motorcycle stunt riding they could cast brian 636 I want I know we didn't
cover it today but I probably cover it tomorrow um Zach Snyder's doing that UFC movie but
I want to see more but I want to see more UFC movies but I want to see more like based
And not just because he's a good friend of mine now.
I want to see a movie about Matt Sarah.
I want to see a movie about Franklin.
I want to see a movie about Anderson Silva.
I want to see a movie about George St. Pierre.
I want to see movies about, like, ESPN's doing them.
I want to see movies about the fighters.
Like those, whether we've had movies about boxers, let's see movies about some UFC fighters.
Yeah.
I mean, the Gracie family, you could do a whole series on the Gracie,
which I guess Warrior was not Warrior.
What's the Kingdom?
It was kind of a series.
UFC series, so yeah.
It was.
So that show, it's funny now,
you know, because I talked to now working with Matt,
I talk to all the, they hear them, have these
conversations, all these UFC guys and everything too.
Yeah. It's amazing how they all kind of feel the same way,
because I think that,
personally, I think they all look at Warrior,
they don't look at it as a movie with the dramatic beats.
It's one of my favorite movies at all time.
The movie gets better and better every time you see it.
I love that movie.
Dana White hates it.
Matt thinks it's fine.
There's other people who just think it's okay,
whatever to do the story behind it.
But they all love kingdom.
Because Ray Longo was in here with Sarah and every time.
They all say it's the most accurate MMA thing that's ever been is kingdom.
Because of the way that the training sessions, everything, they said it is about as accurate of MMA stuff that you can get.
Carver Tate.
You're fantastic, John.
Thank you for all you do.
Just you.
You need a stroke.
You need a stroke.
I get an occasional stroke.
That's right.
That's right.
E. Rock.
Not sure if my first one went through.
Christian, what was the last time you thought about a Harley?
I did. I brought it up.
You did.
I brought it up.
And he references and starts.
Iraq, go back.
I answered it before.
I talked about my daughter and everything too.
But thank you for the second one.
But I did.
I brought it up and I talked about like the canon and all that stuff too.
So it's in there.
Chey Markell.
Last of season two starts soon.
Christian, you play the game yet?
No, because you know what?
People told me not to.
Yeah.
Because they said it's different because I watched the first game.
I played the first game while I was watching.
and seriously, but they said because the way that they're cutting it up,
you're going to get spoiled on things quicker
if you do it that way. So I'll probably play
the game afterwards.
Yeah. Okay.
Shelf, by the way,
I'll talk to you about this off here, but you,
are you getting screeners for,
for that?
No, because I don't have a Warner Brothers connection.
Okay, I got to find out. Are you?
I'm going to look. I don't have it yet, but I'm going to look.
Shelf presence. Punks' favor is Paul
walking punk to the ring.
That's that. That's a favor?
My favorite.
He told him not to swear allegiance to the tribal chief.
If you watch that again, watch Paul Heyman, he goes,
Don't.
Yeah, he says, don't.
Yeah, he says, don't.
Coleman, John, hey, guys, long time fan.
Thank you, Colman.
I had my first music performance in seven years this past weekend.
That's amazing.
Thank you for both inspiring me, improving the value and betting on yourself.
Keep the great work.
That's the coolest thing I've ever heard.
I love that, Coleman.
You went back up there and kicked ass, and that's so much fun when people can do that.
Because you love it, right?
Clearly, that's why you did it.
so that's so good life is a journey man life is a journey armada silo is really good i i you do you watch
it john here it's good yeah it was so good i orm roca appreciate your nuanced opinions even though
they're wrong most of the time you guys have a favorite non-fiction book you know i do i read a
i read a it was a non-sanction what it was an autobiography of robin williams that i loved
I've always enjoyed the Bruce Lee, which I have up here, the Bruce Lee
biography.
Matthew Polly wrote.
It's really fantastic.
Also, just because you're not smart enough to get my nuanced tape,
doesn't mean I'm wrong, buddy.
You know, work harder on your brain.
Let's see, Trey Porter, I checked out number one.
I checked out number on, is it number on,
number on the call sheet on Apple TV, especially going to highly recommend it.
That's where the boy of a comic comes with that.
That's what John was talking about.
Yeah, I got to see.
I got to go check it out.
Sun Tzu, hey guys.
In my opinion, I don't think that,
uh,
Deadpool,
Deadpool.
Is that great?
Maybe.
And Wolverine?
Maybe.
Well,
is that great.
I enjoyed the film,
but I only seen it once,
whereas though I could watch Thor Ragnarok with my hair on fire,
top five MCU film of all time.
Ragnarok is a great move.
It's not my top five.
But it's a really good movie.
I like Ragnarok a lot.
But, yeah, I think that, you know, the comedy and it's a bit.
The Deadpool and Wolverine's a bit.
The emotional core comes from Wolverine.
Right.
Yeah, but the movie's a bit.
Yeah, I love Thor Ragnarach.
And I would absolutely watch that over Deadpool and Wolverine.
But Deadpool Wolverine works in a lot of ways.
So, you know, I got no complaints about that movie.
I'm trying to see a sad movie guy.
My time to shine a low is.
their Marvel's canceling blade.
Any thoughts?
Sorry if this was covered just tuning in.
We did not cover it yet.
And I will tell you that I think that probably the good move.
I don't, you know, my time to shine hello lately has been kind of hit or miss.
So I would say that I don't believe anything right now until I hear from Marvel or hear from more credible sources.
No offense to my time.
I'm not saying it's not credible.
I want to hear from other credible sources first before I buy into that.
But it would it would be depressing that they spent all.
this time went through all these creatives and they're essentially not going to do the movie and he's just
going to pop up randomly in other films it's way too important of a character to be introducing that way
into the marvel universe you know yeah i i think so i think that they it's just yeah they should do it
a different way i think it's yeah you got to wait you got to wait for that movie now it's just not it just
didn't work out uh jason ashcroft my girlfriend who i love is this is distancing herself for me anybody
of how I should handle this. I'm worried. I'm not enough for her and I don't know how to put my
worth. I get anxious in my looks or something. That's a tough one to answer, Jay's. I don't know
the situation. I don't know how long it was and everything too. I'm not sure. You know what I mean?
So I don't know how long you guys were together. It's hard. What I would say is if she wants
the distance, you want to take some time, breathe, take some time and do your thing. Because
the way that I always look at it is this. If it's meant to be, it's meant to be. So you take your
time, you go do your own thing. Give her the distance. She comes back, comes back. She doesn't.
And you move on. It's a harsh reality, but it's just kind of how you've got to look at it.
I've been on this, I've been on this, in this situation before multiple times.
It all depends on what is organically who you are.
Are you strong enough to say to her, it seems to me like you're distancing yourself,
do you need the space? I will give you your space. I'm here when you need me.
And then you just let her be. And she'll reach out when she's ready.
or are you the kind of person that wants to make them known all the time that you're there for them,
you've got to figure out what the balance is for that, because that will annoy her,
that'll make her feel like you just want a controller.
And so you've got to be chill.
I mean, the number one thing I've learned after all the battles and wars and doing therapy
is like you've got to have confidence of who you are as a person, and you've got to value yourself.
And if that person is distancing themselves because they don't see that value or they don't
100% feel like you're the right person for them, you've got to have the strength to be like,
well, let's put a stop to this now and let's both move on to better people for ourselves without
judgment of each other. It's not easy to do. That's true. Well, so Jay Mark,
Shane Markell, you guys seen this outrage of the AI studio Ghibli art, the Wolf of Wall Street
Danger Girl art had me cracking up any thoughts. I just saw something on them. I don't pay
attention to that stuff, man, to be honest. And there's always going to be outrage with this AI.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, in the end, it's, I get it. I get people's angers, but, but, you know,
people are going to keep doing it. It's an inevitable thing.
you know there's nothing you do about it hang pym remember last year when
alex garland said civil war was his last movie yeah well his new movie comes out in 10 days
listen i hate when directors say it's my last movie i hate it i hate it i don't say that
including tarentino yeah if clinnies wood says it okay right
right he's fine but if you're like you're tarantie stop it is not your last movie
shea markell roca i know you're not a fan of yellowstone you're right not to be same here
but trust christian 1883 is honestly one of the best shows in recent
Awesome.
Awesome.
The music's awesome, too.
Michael McKenzie, you should see anyone, but you should see anyone but you with the one.
Anyone but you is the, there's the Sydney-Sweeney film with Glenn Penn.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.
I don't know why.
My wife does not like Glenn Powell.
Wow.
She does not like Glenn Powell.
She's annoyed.
So annoyed.
I like him, but she doesn't, she won't watch stuff with him.
She does not like Brad Pitt.
I have that with the lady outlaw.
She does not like Brad Pitt at all.
I don't get.
What is?
My wife just would, she says, she says,
He's in everything.
I was like, he was in one movie last year,
one movie the year before that.
Nathan Drake,
Schmo's Choice,
Vacation 15 or Dumb and Dumber 2.
Ooh, brutal.
Maybe Dumb and Dumber 2,
just watch those guys together.
Vacation 15 is terrible.
Yeah, I agree.
Just to see those guys.
To see them together, but it's terrible.
They're both terrible.
Hank Pim, most annoying wrestling move.
I hate that walking the rope
by holding your opponent's hand.
The Taker did it a lot.
Such a phony-looking stupid move.
I did hate that.
It was funny thing is,
I have I don't know if there's anyone I respect more than the undertaker I was just never a fan
I was just never a fan I know I was just never a fan of his I I respect him more than anything I think
for what he did locker room how his sense of the business like I don't think there's anyone I
respect more than him but he's never weird he's like the Jim Duncan of the W W W00%
respect the championships you respect his ability but there was just something that isn't a
hundred you don't like you don't fan over him like you do stone cold
A lot of people that did, though, dude, there's a lot of people that, like, swore by the intertaker.
I just wasn't that guy.
This is a great question.
Dancing Dog 60 was, think Spawn will ever make it to the big screen again?
Yes, but if you talk to Todd McFarland, they'll tell you it's coming out tomorrow.
Yeah.
They keep trying.
You keep trying.
Does the CG get better and born again after episode six?
I think it does.
Yeah, I agree.
It does.
Mr. I crap and shit.
Thoughts on Brown's ownership finally admitting that the Watson train was a big swing and a miss.
Their words.
I love when people take ownership.
on their shit. Yeah. Yeah. They tried it out.
Yeah, they tried it out. Rusty Trombone is awful in the Arthur remake. I don't remember.
I don't know if they're, I know I understand what Rusty Trambone. I don't know if there was an actual
actor that called himself that too. Um, Dancing Dog 60. I found an old Netflix DVD that I forgot
to send back for 2010 while cleaning on something. Do you ever find the old envelope by keeping the DVD?
No, I have not in a long time. I haven't found one of those, but that's pretty great that you did. He follows it
up chamberlain was in those awful canon films indiana jones republics where he played allan
quarterman opposite of young charon stone real stinkers yeah i mean that's hey f you f you those are
those are guilty pleasure movies because of chamberlain's charm maybe you've got a problem with that
you got a problem with life son what's wrong with you jazzy says my favorite part of the kang dynasty
script is when the entire street level team is killed by ramatut moon night goes to a whole character arc with
country and nearly Solis Ramatut.
Does that happen? I don't know. I didn't read the script.
Did you read it?
No, I didn't know. Maybe.
Farver Tate, seen the Freaky Tales trailer at Pedro Pascall?
I haven't. Did you?
Yeah, a few weeks ago. Is there a new one?
There's a new one. I haven't seen it.
I haven't seen either one.
Nathan Stone, should there be a remake of 90s hero movies, the Phantom or the Shadow?
I mean, it's hard to surpass Billy Zane and I like Baldwin, but we can hope.
I feel like this. If there's a good script for whatever, if there's a good script and a good take,
it's not easy to do that.
But if there's a good script,
it's a good take, then yeah.
I mean, look at Dread.
Dread was awesome.
Dredd was awesome.
Great.
Awesome.
No one,
and it didn't do very well,
but no one said we need a Judge Dredd remake.
Yeah.
But they did it,
or another adaptation, I should say,
and they did it.
It's great.
I think both these can be redone.
Shadow definitely,
but the Phantom was terrible.
You can certainly get above Billy Zane and the Phantom,
but the Shadow has its defenders.
So I think you can remake that one for sure.
Dancy dog 60 the outlaw rocks let's go rogue unknown hey John when do you think we'll see
see him team with static shock I think he'll show up you'll show up yeah I think that
I think James when you realize show is a star I think it'll be a while but yeah yeah
Carver Tate your fantastic too see there you go there you go perfect yeah it's all I needed in my
life um okay a couple more than we got my friend Tina's coming over we were doing the final
destination.
Tina.
Key Dog Westmore, with Chosen being top five, will we see more TV in theaters?
Maybe.
I don't know.
It's more, I don't know.
That's more of a unique situation.
People have love in this thing.
Maybe.
Sean McCabe, Broca, my wife, Melanie loves your mic and the headset, giving off some
stormtroopers vibes.
Yeah, that's got a scumptuers.
That's true.
What is that?
What is that?
Oh, this is, these are Bose.
The mic is road.
Yeah, so I thought it's a good one.
Cooley High, great advice to the young man with big Roka and Christian.
Thank you, Cooley.
I love Coomada.
Can we get big balls in Sam versus AI?
I mean, maybe.
Well, Sam's not here right now, but yeah, eventually, maybe for sure.
Grim Bear, my favorite wrestler was Hogan and later Taker.
I think Hogan was a lot of people's favorites back in the day.
No doubt.
Yeah, true.
No doubt.
Leor M.
To be clear from my last super chat, you rock, Roka.
Thank you.
Paul Hitchcock, $50 million.
Man, who do you think you have?
Coyote Clinton. P.S. Momoa confirmed on Today Show. He's in June 3. Really? Wow. How?
I mean, yes, people, I guess there's a way that he comes back. Yeah, something. Dancing Dog 60,
funnier. Kentucky Fried movie or police academy? Police Academy. Police Academy. I have a question.
John, we did it. You closed it here at 96, man. That's pretty good.
Pretty damn good. 96. Good start to the day. Good start to the week. John, give him a, where can they find you? What's going?
Yeah. One more time at the Roka says on Twitter, Instagram and the blue sky,
please head over to the channel, y'all. I mean, at 37,000 would love to get to 40 to 50 by the end of the year.
You guys can help me do that. I would really appreciate it.
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So head on over there at YouTube.com slash John Roka says,
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Thank you, Christian. I appreciate it.
Great to see everybody.
Same here. You'll see John on Wednesday.
Also, we'll be on the show.
So thank you for being here.
Apple Podcast, Spotify, Anyway, Podcasts are found.
We got a lot of stuff coming up, man.
We got the Wander Vision reactions with myself and Sam tomorrow.
I got Daredevil coming out tomorrow.
More reactions.
I've got some reviews coming out.
So be a part of it.
Like I said, my friend Tina's downstairs right now.
I'm going to get her.
We're going to watch the Final Destination movies.
So we got a lot of shit coming up on here.
So thank you for being here.
I really appreciate you.
everybody who contributed to talk today, comments, all that and more.
Appreciate you.
I'm see you soon.
Bye.
