The Kristian Harloff Show - Michael Debuts At 27% On Rotten Tomatoes! Is This A Bad Sign For The Box Office?!

Episode Date: April 21, 2026

Welcome back to The Kristian Harloff Show—your daily destination for the biggest movie news, Marvel updates, Star Wars reveals, and everything trending in Hollywood. Today's episode is stacked with ...major headlines and surprising developments across the industry: The Michael movie debuts with a 30% score—what went wrong and can it recover at the box office? New Spider-Man variant projects are reportedly on the way. What does this mean for the expanding Spider-Verse and Sony's Marvel universe? Spider-Noir reveals new posters and full episode runtimes—how will this darker take on Spider-Man fit into the multiverse? Steven Caple Jr. is officially set to direct I Am Legend 2. Can the sequel live up to the legacy of the original? Jon Favreau confirms The Mandalorian Season 4 was centered around Grand Admiral Thrawn and will set up Ahsoka Season 2—huge implications for the future of Star Wars. The first trailer for Super Troopers 3 is here—does the cult comedy franchise still have what it takes? Ryan Reynolds reveals that Deadpool will not go solo again—what does this mean for the future of the MCU? If you're into Marvel, DC, Star Wars, and breaking entertainment news, Kristian delivers expert analysis, strong opinions, and fan-focused discussion on all the biggest stories. Make sure to like, comment, and subscribe for daily movie news, trailer reactions, and in-depth breakdowns right here on the channel. #KristianHarloffShow #SpiderMan #Deadpool #StarWars #TheMandalorian #Ahsoka #IAmLegend2 #MovieNews #Marvel #Hollywood SPONSORS:  RUGIET: Head to https://www.Rugiet.com/KRISTIAN and get 15% off your ED treatment. HIMS: Ready to reach your goals? Visit https://www.hims.com/KRISTIAN to get a personalized, affordable plan that gets you. Weight Loss by Hims is not available in all 50 states. Wegovy® is the registered trademark of Novo Nordisk A.S. To get started and learn more, including important safety information, Wegovy® clinical study information, and restrictions, visit Hims dot com.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Michael. Oh my goodness. They put this thing out. And the show, or the movie, rather, I mean, I saw the movie. I'm going to give my live review today. And I was like, okay, we'll see what people think about the movie. It debuts at 28% of Rotten Tomatoes. A, is that crazy? How are critics reviewing this is the first thing I want to ask. Second thing I'm going to ask is, does the negative impact from critics mean anything about the box office because remember people were talking about this could movie could make a billion dollars potentially is that going to have any impact whatsoever uh we shall see what else are going to be talking about today shit man we got a lot of things to discuss roxy's got tv picks so we'll be getting into that what is this debate with roca and kalanowski really all about mike ways in. There's a new Spider-Man variant project. Mandalorian season four was going to be all about Thrawn and was going to set up Asoka season two. John Favre was talking about that. It's a lot of shit, man. It's a lot of stuff
Starting point is 00:01:10 to talk about. So it is myself, Roxy Stryor, Mike Kalinowski. Let's get into it. You ready? Me too. Did you shit in there? welcome back ladies and gentlemen to the show joining me on the show i got to get her shot ready hold on a second there we go roxy strier and there she is ladies and gentlemen the crew is here on this tuesday my goodness hello roxy how are you hi that good huh yeah man good good good good uh well it looks like have you been paying it so roxy on monday i'll just give you guys the number right away you're going to up against Roka. He's got Roka's at 111.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Okay. It's beatable. But yesterday. What's the beef? What's the beef? Have you, I didn't, I kind of knew about it over the weekend because, or maybe before during Cinema Con, Roka texted me and he goes, we got to get Mike on the show to talk about this. He's like, check this out me. Send me all these tweets. So Roka and Mike, and I'm going to call it how it is first. And then Mike, I'm going to let
Starting point is 00:02:32 let you retort. at first glance, I think Roka is in the right in regards to this particular thing. You guys are friends. There is no world where you should be calling him out on Twitter without reaching out to him. Wait, just tell me the facts. Give me the facts. So something along the lines of Roker tweeting about James Gunn not being at the Warner Brothers panel or something like that and going to. And Kalinowski responds to a public.
Starting point is 00:03:02 last that Roca is essentially a gun hater and as and always has been. And then it goes back and forth to where Roka got sick of it. So let's just debate this on this show. Mike never responded to that in typical Mike. What do you mean? He said that where? Mike never responded where? On Twitter. On Twitter. On Twitter, Roka's like, let's stop talking about it here. Let's talk about it at
Starting point is 00:03:24 the Christian Arloff show. And let's have a debate about this. And Mike didn't. So Mike, first things first. I want to respond here. here. Why did you publicly go after Roca? And two, why did you not respond to his request for a debate? One, because we both go after each other and not even go after each other. I also back his ass off all the time on Twitter. Okay. What was this actually about, Mike? What was that? Okay. So at Cinecon, he tweeted out that something about gun not being there, not showing Mata Tomorrow footage, bad look, you know, this and that. And I'd go, you know, they're filming Mena.
Starting point is 00:04:02 of tomorrow, they start filming, why is he going to be there? It's not four man up tomorrow. It's Supergirl and Clayface, which they showed. But then that wasn't so much. I go, well, it's interesting you say that. How come you didn't mention that Matt Reeves and the Batman weren't there? If he would have mentioned both,
Starting point is 00:04:19 I wouldn't have said a thing. But the fact that he only mentioned gun and didn't even bring up the Batman 2, which wasn't there at all either. And Man of 2 was a Man of Tomorrow was shown, they showed it like in a sizzle reel like, hey, it's coming soon. They didn't mention the Batman 2 at all. And he didn't say anything about that.
Starting point is 00:04:35 So in the past, he's been very critical of gun, constantly critical. I mean, that's all true. So what's wrong in me saying, hey, why don't you say, you didn't mention the Batman 2? Well, why didn't he? Couldn't you have texted him? But why was the reason to do it online? What was it because of this constant gun hating from him that? Right.
Starting point is 00:04:55 So you're holding him to the standards of anybody that would say that. Anybody. And if he would have said, hey, the Batman 2, where was that? I would have gone you're right man, that is kind of weird. Right. 100% I would have. Okay. But he's, but you won't say that.
Starting point is 00:05:10 So that's not to me of anything other than you're feeding. And again, I get on the other side because as Roxie, you know, any, like he's, okay, we're talking about calling out on air. He went on Collider Live with Clark Wolf and called me a DC
Starting point is 00:05:25 apologist for years. I Collider live. So it's been, it's not like this suddenly happened and like, oh, I'm calling him out. Okay. And what about the no response to the debate? Because, okay, here's what I realized. I was at the middle of rehearsal for a show at Universal that we're doing that this started.
Starting point is 00:05:47 All right. My night was just starting. And I'm like, if I keep going on this, I'm going to fucking go all night on this. So I did what you say. I put my phone down and I walked away. Okay. That's fair. Because it's like, I can't.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Okay. I think this is why I like to hear everybody's piece. I understand Mike's point of view. I get it. What do you actually think, Christian? I think that they're both stupid for being on tour. I think it's stupid that they both... Okay, but in this scenario...
Starting point is 00:06:14 In the... Here we go. In the pundit going to Cinemaconda cover it in an unbiased way, that's your job. Yeah, maybe, but yesterday he did bring it up. Maybe. Yeah, no, he should have. The Batman 2 was...
Starting point is 00:06:27 I was shocked at the Batman 2 wasn't... That's a huge... That is a huge, but on the other hand, I'm not because the man of tomorrow wasn't shown. Well, but they talked about Amanda Tomorrow. They didn't even talk about the Batman, too. I mean, okay. I mean, I don't know what to say to that. I mean, the whole Batman, too, of it all is a weird, you know, it's, but this is for 2026 and a 2027, you know, for finish up the rest of the year.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Next year at Seneca con, I'm sure they'll talk about both of those ad nauseum. Like, okay. That rocks. So I have several thoughts on this. Take me off. I think that number one, you and Roka have this kind of rapport and relationship. We have to guess that Mike's actually listening to this, but go ahead. He's not even going to see.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Now he is. Now he's coming back. I think he's listening from his kitchen. All right. He's listening. He's listening. I think if the situations were reversed and Mike tweeted something, Roka would also go after mic on Twitter and not send them a text.
Starting point is 00:07:32 That seems to be their dynamic. Because I see it all the time. Right. They use their phones as weapons. My dynamic with you, Christian, if you tweeted, there's never a time where we're tweeting back and forth at each other. That's just not like, even when we were both heavily on Twitter. Yeah, we don't know. If you tweeted something I thought was stupid, I'd screenshot it, text it to you and be like,
Starting point is 00:07:55 fucking idiot. Right. Like, just that's, why did you post this? Why'd you post this? Right. That's our way of going about things. So I think that this has been established through years and years of Twitter news. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:09 So I don't think that Mike or Roka can really be upset about this being a public. I'm not upset. No, I know. No, I know. I know. I know you're not. But Roka seemed to think that. Because I.
Starting point is 00:08:21 It shouldn't be in that place. What I will say, though, is that. And Roka's come on this show before with me. We've gone on this show about gun and I've been like, because I don't think that him or Snyder's gun stances make any sense. They make no sense to me. But at the same time, he has stood 10 toes down. And I do think gun not being somewhere and Matt Reeves not being somewhere very different considering their positions in D.C. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Thank you. I said the same thing about people where they were like, oh, gun didn't, I guess, Ellison. I just agreed with you, Mikey, because Gunn not being somewhere as the head of the studio is different than Reeves not being somewhere as the head of a project. But he's a director as well. And that's why, and people don't understand, Gunn and Safran split the job of two people. Like, and Ellison, when the Paramount guy held this meeting with all the people of Warner Brothers, Gunn wasn't there. And people like, what the fuck? Bob, he's like, no, but Safran was.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Yeah, but I showed up because Gunn was doing Man of Tomorrow work. Like he's in Atlanta. He's filming a movie. Their big tent pull, he doesn't have time to go to Cinecon that they're not going to talk about anything. Did he do, like a video presentation? I don't know. I don't think so. I think he,
Starting point is 00:09:40 I think Manit Tomorrow was in like this sizzle reel of what's coming up. Just if I'm being 100% transparent and fair as a DC fan and as somebody who loves Gunn and Gunn's movies don't really miss for me, I don't think it's that legit that he had zero presence at cinema con. I would think that he should have had some presence there. I agree. It wasn't a video. I thought he did really a video presentation or something, but either way. Here's the thing, guys.
Starting point is 00:10:11 He cannot win with a lot of people because if he was, people like, why? It's not about him this year. It's Supergirl. Oh, he's got to be all over it. Like, he did a thing for Supergirl. And people like, it's not your movie. Why are you talking about it? It's like, the guy can't win. Yeah. I agree with that. I agree with that. He's filming a movie. He didn't need to be there.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Brooks says gun sent in a video. Okay. Great. Then I think he did exactly. Well, then I think he did exactly. It is also. I think the Saffron's not,
Starting point is 00:10:36 I mean, minus the people who really follow it, like you guys and, and most, how exciting is Peter Saffron to be giving speeches? He doesn't have much pressure. He's really struggle with listening to it.
Starting point is 00:10:49 He's got to up his charisma game. But he's, but that's why he's in the position. He's a suit. That's why there's gone. He's the, but that's the point is that he's not there. Okay, so my follow-up question to you, Mike, is because this seems to be your relationship with Roka.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Right. And yet, you guys are very close friends. Yeah. Like, when you see each other after debates like this. Right. How does it go? Is it? What's it like?
Starting point is 00:11:15 No. You bring it up? You, Harlov, you're like this little mass when you think about it, you should be done this. Like, you for years, for years. Hey, man, hey man, go tweet out at him. Get him going. When it benefited in the shmota. When I bet it found in the shmowdown, it was okay.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Our true... Hold on. The reason that Roke and I were so great together in the Shmodon is because of who we are and our friendship for each other. Like, I will never... Anything that ever happens with Rokka Online, I'm never going to see him and go,
Starting point is 00:11:43 you fucking asshole, fuck you. Right, right, right. No, you guys know, I know too long for that. Anyway, I'm bored with this now. So listen, so it's... Fuck you. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:11:53 So this is something that's probably still ongoing. I don't think we've heard of it. or the last time that the two of them tweet each other. So where do you guys stand? Who do you say is in the right who's in the wrong? Put your thoughts in there, let me know. Okay, look, we're going to switch. And I'm going to do something real quick.
Starting point is 00:12:12 So Mike and Roxy, if you want to do Pee-P's, whatever you got to do, go ahead and do it. I'm going to do my review, my non-spoiler review of Michael. I said we're going to do it live today. So if you're brand new to the channel, you haven't been here before, click like, comment, subscribe do all that and more going to talk about the new
Starting point is 00:12:31 this is a non-spoiler review of Michael which is the biopic Antoine Fuqua is the director on this one you got Jafar Jackson playing Michael also Giuliano Valdi who plays young Michael Coleman Domingo playing Joseph Jackson
Starting point is 00:12:47 a lot of other big cameos in this I also thought Keelan Dirl Jones who played Bill Bray was a standout let's go with the acting first and I will tell you that people are curiously what is this going to be is this going to be just an impression of Michael Jackson's nephew doing him and the answer is no it is not an impression he really gets the cadence down of Michael Jackson and so does Giuliano Valde who plays young Michael Jackson you see the rise and that's what people have to realize about this movie in general and we'll discuss all this in the live show and everything more but in reviewing this movie in what they gave you not what I thought or whatever it could be, I'm just going to review the movie that they gave, right? Because you have to understand that the Jackson brothers were producing this. You're going to get a vanilla version of this, at least in part one.
Starting point is 00:13:43 That being said, they really do show the rise of Michael Jackson and the kind of the paint by numbers, if you will, biopic what they do, how they start. the fact that he comes from this family where his father is pushing them to be on it all of the time, to get them out of being poor and really driving them hard. And really not in a way that is healthy either. It's more so like not allowing them to be children. And it sympathizes with Michael throughout it. And I think that's going to be a thing where a lot of people might have an issue with.
Starting point is 00:14:25 But again, in this movie in general, they are showing Michael as he is growing, standing out, becoming who he is, becoming the pop star that we see. And they cover it. They go through all the music. They go from the 70s. This movie covers the span from the 70s into like 1989. They show a bunch of things that you would have known if you were growing up in that era or you're Michael Jackson fan in general. The music really pops.
Starting point is 00:14:54 What Jafar Jackson does is you do get this essence of who Michael is or at least who they portrayed him to be. And that's what he does. He has this soft side about him, clearly troubled, all these other things that were going on in his life. But the way that they do, the relationship that really pops again, as I mentioned, is between Michael Jackson and Bill Bray, who is his driver and looks after him. and it was assigned by his father. Now, Coleman Domingo, again, with this presence about him, he's always a standout guy because he just has that energy about him, but playing Joseph Jackson and just seeing how he exploits his children
Starting point is 00:15:35 and these things that he's just been plagued with, that part of it they really dive into as well. Anton Foucaw is showing you, I mean, the music, the video, the stuff like when you're watching him do thriller, these other things, those things work. Now, the soft side of it and the vanilla side of it, is the thing where it's like, okay, well, clue they're not diving too deep into it. And as I said, it is a little bit more of a VH1 type movie than maybe it is a detailed, let's get into the nitty
Starting point is 00:16:06 gritty of it. And there is sometimes where the dialogue feels like, oh, we're getting to the next music video and we're going to show what a great performer he was. And then they're diving a little bit, not when they do go into the family moments, they have some things with the mom that really works. and then they kind of go away from it a little fast. So I think that the movie works. I think that what Anton Fukuad does, he was given a directive. And in this directive, as a film,
Starting point is 00:16:36 I'm going to say 3.4 out of five. The performance of Michael, I would give a four and a half to five because I thought Jafar Jackson was so good. And the same goes for Coleman Domingo and everybody else, the supporting cast in general. But what will they do in part two as this is clearly set up for that? What are they going to do for part two?
Starting point is 00:17:04 And will they dive deeper? And will they go into more of some of the darker stuff that is out there? And how will they portray it in what light? Again, with his brothers producing it, you can guess. So that being said, that's. my review of Michael. Make sure you click like, comment, subscribe. Thank you for being here. And we'll see you next time.
Starting point is 00:17:30 I did that for, we're going to cut that out. So just letting people know. Now I'm going to bring my co-host back in. I watched while I was in the kitchen. What do you think about the Rotten Tomato score? I think it's crazy. Okay, because you, you just gave the best review of anybody I've,
Starting point is 00:17:46 everybody seems to be slamming this. Yeah, because I think that they're reviewing it. I think that they're reviewing the movie that they wanted to see. I wanted to review the movie that I saw. It's not the movie that I wanted to see. Are you reviewing it as a film or as a biopic? Both, a biopic and a film. You know, like I think that, I think more so of a film
Starting point is 00:18:07 because the biopic in general, that would, I'd start to cross over into that line of, well, that's what I wanted to see. Because, yeah, look, it is, in the same way that any time a biopic is produced by anyone in the family, they're going to protect the legacy. I think that even, or even the state or whatever, I mean,
Starting point is 00:18:27 because even we talked about this Roxanne Clutter Live with the Queen movie, right? Bohemian Raptor, yeah. Yeah, there was more to it. There was more things there. And I think that this is the thing that people are going to have an issue with. And look, and I will,
Starting point is 00:18:43 this is going to be a very controversial movie in general because even when I did my out-of-the-the-the-the-tear reaction, every, it was, the Michael Jackson supporters or the people that were really against him doing having a movie in general and giving him guilt right and saying guilty right
Starting point is 00:19:04 that's it that's the two sides of it and I think that that transfers over to the critics as well and the critics are going to be like because it as a movie I don't see how you could go as far as how it's actually made as a film 20 what is it at now it's currently right now, it's at 28%. I'm going to refresh it and see if it's changed since
Starting point is 00:19:27 28, but it's 31. It's gone up 3. It's 31% right now. So I don't know. Did you do you see? Do you think it was entertaining? It was very entertaining. I don't think, I mean, it was very,
Starting point is 00:19:40 it wasn't boring. Never, never boring. That, that, I don't know how anybody, were people saying that it was boring? No, I'm just asking you. Oh, yeah, I didn't know if you saw. some reviews that may be said. No. No, I think that
Starting point is 00:19:55 you know, a lot of people have a relationship with Michael Jackson, a parissocial relationship or a relationship with speaking of Clyder Live. I remember that's when the documentary came out from the two guys about Michael Jackson or whatever. I don't mean or whatever like that, but you know what I'm talking about. Yeah. And whether or not people want
Starting point is 00:20:16 that in the movie, I don't know. Like, I do think it's fair that people let their opinions be colored. I think it colors every doc that we, every biopic that we see. Like the dirt that we cover too. Oh, right, right. You know,
Starting point is 00:20:32 who's doing it. I think it's people's right to say, I don't like this movie. I don't think that they shared enough about his life. It's too much fantasy. It's not enough reality. You don't think it's fair? I think that is fair.
Starting point is 00:20:45 I think that there is, I think that there is a lot of, I haven't seen it, though, and I want to see it. I'm excited about it still. But the question is also, I think with that, though, right? It's like, you can, you can, how do you know, though, what's really fantasy on the side of it? I mean, I think that one of the things that they probably, there's scenes of him like hanging out and playing with bubbles in his room and, you know, he's, and he's treating.
Starting point is 00:21:09 They portray him like he's Mr. Rogers, right? And that's probably going to piss some people off when you're looking at it. And like, oh, my God, he's with a CGI chimpanzee right now. and oh, and he's sitting, he's bedside, making sure that he's donating this and he's donating. They wanted to show how much he was doing and they portrayed this idea. So maybe a critic's like, they're just portraying him as like the perfect angel. So this is like, this is a fantasy side of it. And the answer to that is might be very well be true, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I wasn't there. Did they show him hanging out with so many underage boys? Because that's fact, right? Like I'm not saying what he did with them, but did they show his relationships, like anything to do? Again, this was. up until 89, not to say that wasn't happening. Right. But they focus and what they do shows, like,
Starting point is 00:21:55 he's the nothing to happen with him with the Pepsi commercial when he got burnt, like, extremely badly. Right. What they do at that point is while he's there, you see him kind of kneeling over and talking. There's another, there's a kid there who's a burn victim. And Michael is there talking to him. They show more so like what John Cena does.
Starting point is 00:22:15 When John Cena goes into hospitals and, and wants to, make a kid's day better and he goes by and he's talking to him. That's the way that they portrayed his relationships with kids. And they portrayed it also setting it up that he's always like a little kid. Like he wants to like, as they're older in their 20s, he brings like Twister to his brother's like, let's play Twister. And they're like, grown up now, Mike.
Starting point is 00:22:36 And they keep showing the fact that he, you know, how is his Peter Pan and Neverland and how and he never wanted to grow up and he always wanted to be a kid and they show like, they portray it as if he just was a big kid. And I think that's probably setting up for what's going to really piss people off in part two of like, no, no, no, this is the way people saw him, but he's actually like this. If this doesn't perform, is there definitely going to be a part two? Like, where are they in the process? I can't imagine that there to be underperforms. Now, that, Mike, I guess, is my question to you, right?
Starting point is 00:23:07 Right. Now, this is a movie where I don't think critical response is going to do jack shit. I think that the fans, which still are universal for Michael Jackson, are going to see this movie, especially, especially if they find out through reviews that they're not covering this stuff in the first part of it, and they're just focusing on his legacy. I still think it's going to perform. I don't know about the billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:23:37 I think that's far-fetched, but I do think that it's going to make a lot of money. What say you is this going to make an effect? Mike, what do you think? you're muted Mike Sorry, when does this come out? Not this weekend, but next. Am I the only one that doesn't feel like it's being promoted? I totally hear you on that.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Oh, no, you don't think it is? I completely agree with you, Mike. I don't have any friends No. That know that this is coming out. Nobody, and I have a lot of big Michael Jackson fan friends. Everybody does, obviously. I haven't seen this anywhere.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Like, I remember the hype when the first trailer dropped, and I was like, oh, this movie's going to kill. Now I think it might bomb. There's no talk of it. Like to general public. I'm like, I don't know. Bomb. Okay. So I don't know, man. What do you think you think that it's going to perform still? Or you think it's going to underperform? Where do you see this top it out? Because I'm assuming the movie costs around $150 million to make, if not more. Higher. The estimate of budget is between 155 and 170, including an additional 15 to 50 million for research.
Starting point is 00:24:46 shoots total production budget estimated around 170 to 200 okay not in current marketing so you need it needs to make at least 600 well i would say it needs to make at least 500 right well if it's 200 plus the you know 170 170 yeah so i would say let's let's let's compromise and say 5 50 okay um so does it do 550 yeah or what yeah i i think this does 550 but i definitely don't think it does a billion which is what people early on were predicting, like just a billion dollar box office movie because of what Mike's saying. The marketing and the reviews. This movie comes out in two days.
Starting point is 00:25:30 That's crazy. That's insane. Two days, huh? Wow. I think so. I think it's this Thursday. Yeah, okay. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Yeah. And that's wild. Oh, no, it says that for April 24th. Yeah, two days. Yeah. That's crazy. and I don't have tickets to see this. Are you going to see it?
Starting point is 00:25:49 I wasn't even invited to a screening of it, which is weird. Huh. I was planning on it, but the rotten tomato scores actually kind of impact my... I don't know if it should for you, because... I'm definitely going to see the movie. Yeah. I don't know that I'm going to see it opening weekend. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Because I, a lot of times, there's a lot of times when the Rotten Tomato score is very much on the opposite side of You really do look at, and this is a compliment, by the way. You look at the best things in movies when you see them. Even if certain things, maybe other people go this. Sure. You find good things from them. And I'm curious, will, if you're going to go into this, if knowing what you know about how they're covering it,
Starting point is 00:26:34 will that affect the way that you look at it? Because it seems to be doing that for a lot of people. Yeah, I think so. You think so. I have a really hard time understanding the truth about Michael Jackson. Right. And it does impact whether I believe all the stories or not, you know, at the time that that doc came out, it seemed so damning. And then there was so much evidence against those guys.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Whether I believe it or not, it's distracting to me when I watch things or listen to Michael. It's distracted because I wonder, was this man a predator? It was he a child predator, especially everything going on in society today. And it's connected with Epstein and everything too. You know, it's like, right. So, you know, I can't sit here and tell you. I know what happened for sure. I, who the fuck can do that unless we're there. Yeah. But it's distracting when I hear it's not one, two, five, ten.
Starting point is 00:27:26 It's been my entire life. I was born in 91 for the entire duration of my life. I've heard stories about this man being a child predator. Right. So I don't know whether that's. Yeah. And that's, and that's a thing that that's not completely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Because I grew up much. different period and I grew up with Michael Jackson the megastar. Like I saw him in concert in the 90s. By the 80s. I want you to finish your point but that that's the movie that they made what you just said. They made it for people who have that perception of him when you grew up. Go ahead. Yeah, like I saw him in concert in the 80s and it was it was him and the Jackson 5.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Like it was incredible. So I grew up. So by the time the 90s rolled around, I was out of Michael Jackson. It wasn't so I knew all the stories. and the Wonderland and all that, but it was never. And it's so interesting to see if, if Michael Jackson was, let's say he started his careers 20 years later, he would absolutely have been demolished by everything they came out. But by the time it came out, his career had already kind of peaked. He had his 80s run into the 90s.
Starting point is 00:28:33 It was kind of like people didn't want to tarnish that image. Social media wasn't about what it is now. So it's just interesting. Like even if you look at the chat right now, people in all caps. Michael Jackson was a predator, people in all caps. Michael Jackson was not a predator, people in all caps. That's crazy. That was my head of the theater reaction.
Starting point is 00:28:51 I mean, every comment was pretty much either one of those two things about going back. And that's what I mean by distracting. Yes, yes, it is. So when I go to see this movie, when I watch it, which I am going to watch it, we'll see if the movie is good enough that I'm never distracted by that. I think the point. The reason why I think that you will be is because I will say that even when I was watching it and saying to myself, because I had to tell myself, this is the movie that they're done. This is their, their version, like, as, you know what, this is probably way to put it.
Starting point is 00:29:25 As you just mentioned with the comment section, whichever comment section on any of the covering this is going to be, he did, he didn't. This movie was made by he didn't. Yeah, that's who this movie was made for. If you are a, he did. You're more so of the, I don't know what to believe. Yeah, back in the, when that doc came out, I was like, oh, he clearly did. And then it's just crazy because people can, unfortunately, people can lie. That means that people who accuse people can lie.
Starting point is 00:29:55 That means that people who are pop stars can lie. That means people. So, and I wasn't, I don't know. It's, it really is. And it's so much more of a debate because it's like, okay, at the one point, like, maybe it was just like a Mr. Rogers guy. Everybody thought Mr. Rogers was creepy. But he wasn't. Maybe he was. But then the other side of you're like, well, why did he pay a, you know, a settlement to somebody who was accusing him?
Starting point is 00:30:15 And it's like, well, then there's all this. And there's so many different questions. You're like, I don't know. Nobody's really had proof. So like it's, anyway, the movie itself we're going to see. Let me ask you guys. I'm going to put a number out there over under worldwide, $675 million for Michael. Rossi. I was going to say, I think if this makes $700. grid, they're really happy. So what do you say? 675, over under, where you stand right now. What's coming out next weekend? Against it? Or you're saying following? I think Devil Wears Prada is the next big release past this one.
Starting point is 00:30:53 That's what I was saying. I don't think that will really impact anything. Not really. Not to the fans itself. There's really, yeah, it's Devil Wears Prada, too, is May 1st. Mortal Kombat on the 8th and then the Mandalorian and Grugoo. Good timing for it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:11 So what would you... I'm going to say over. I think that this is going to hit 700. Okay. Mike? And they're going to be stoked. Over under. Under.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Under. Under. Okay. I'm going to go over. Under. I'm going to go over. So Mike's under. I don't think Mike's crazy, though, for...
Starting point is 00:31:27 I think Mike's crazy. I'm just going off of just pure, pure... What's out there? What's people talking about? How do I feel? What's it's in the air? You know what's the question? What's it?
Starting point is 00:31:38 tracking right now. Does anybody know what is tracking for? I think opening weekend was tracking pretty well. I think. Yeah. I don't know like I wonder now after the reviews and stuff too, but I wonder. Anyway, okay, listen, that's our thoughts. That's our thoughts on it. That's our thoughts on it. What do you say? Do you think it's going to do pretty well? Put your thoughts in there. Let us know.
Starting point is 00:31:56 We got more to talk about me and Roxie's got TV coming up. I want to talk about some of that just mentioned mandolin and Grogo. There's some other stuff about the scrap season, how that played. So we're going to get into all of that. But first, I want to tell you guys about Ruggiette. I want to tell you about Hymns.
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Starting point is 00:32:31 So let's move on. Let's get to some stuff. We got the Mandalorian. and Grogu coming out soon. And now there's a lot of coverage as it's getting closer. And one of those things is John Favro talking about what was going to happen, what was going to be season four. We know that it was a scrapped. This movie is basically a season that was turned into it, but the plans were different.
Starting point is 00:32:59 So let's talk about what Favro said. Okay. So give me a moment here as I bring up this one. and where in the world is it? Give me a moment. Sorry. I don't know what happened there. Always, always, always waiting. Right.
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Starting point is 00:36:58 So, Mandalorian and Grogu is coming out. Mandalorian season four was about Thrawn, and it was also going to set up Asoka season two, John Fabro says. The Mandalorian Grogo director, John Fabro, has revealed his scrap plans for the Mandalorian season four, which included putting the spotlight on Grand Admiral Thrawn ahead of Sok.
Starting point is 00:37:18 return. When Bob Eiger returned as Disney CEO, he prioritized box office revenue. I don't know. It's not really about it. Sorry. Um, okay. So when Bob Iger returned as Disney CEO, he prioritized box office revenue over boosting Disney plus subscription numbers by pulling the plug on his predecessors' seemingly endless streaming offerings. With that, a plan, Moana TV series became the theatrically released Moana 2. Much has also been said about the Mandalorian season four, evolving in to the Mandalorian and Grogu, a movie that arrives in theaters next month following a three-year absence for the show. While the series hadn't started shooting yet, the prevailing belief
Starting point is 00:37:59 among Star Wars fans seems to be that filmmaker John Fabra was tasked with taking his season for scripts and condensing it into a two-hour movie. Not so. While the entire season had been written, Favra went back to the drawing board to tell a vastly different story from the one he had planned for streaming. Okay. You can't just take those scripts and turn them into a movie. There are a lot of characters. It assumed you'd watch the whole show and it was teeing up what was happening moving into the second season of of Soka. It was about Grand Admiral Thrawn and following the larger storyline of this era of the Star Wars timeline. This is a completely different medium. So I had to start from scratch, essentially. There were certain things I wanted to pursue, like the idea of Grogu being the
Starting point is 00:38:35 Mandalorian's apprentice. As long as you understand the archetypes of this hardened warrior with this vulnerable young apprentice, you'll know these characters well, even if you've never seen the show. There's still a lot of Star Wars in there. You're going to see where things are going, but that doesn't diminish from the experience of watching it as a standalone film. It's not hard to wonder what might have been and the idea of Dean and the child dealing with a returning Grand Admiral Thrawn and his undead army of stormtroopers
Starting point is 00:38:58 assuming that's where things were heading is undeniably exciting. Now, the duo will be kept separate from whatever Dave Faloni has planned for Assoca season two, though the door may be open for them to make a cameo appearance in the Disney Plus series. Who wouldn't bank on it, though, because it seems
Starting point is 00:39:14 that Disney's hope is for the Mandalorian and Grogo to launch a new big screen franchise. I don't know. That's going to happen. In the Mandalorian and Grogo, the evil empire has fallen, and imperial warlords remain scattered throughout the galaxy, yada, yada, yada. I think that's a stretch to say
Starting point is 00:39:30 that you're going to, you know, start a new franchise here. I don't know. You guys know way better than me. I need to hear your guys thoughts on this. Yeah, I mean, look, what I will say is I think that the comments are the right comments to say.
Starting point is 00:39:46 I think that you don't, what you don't want to do is you don't want to tell audience, well, look, if you go back and you watch everything that's leading up, you know, see you watch season one through three and you watch Asoka season one, you can come and enjoy this movie. We got to watch those things so you know what's going on. You're going to lose people right away when you do that. Instead, it's not on that's a Star Wars adventure with these characters and we're essentially introducing them to the audience for the first time. I believe him. I believe that this is that it was probably, you know, I had this whole plan for a season And I can't do that as a movie.
Starting point is 00:40:19 I just can't do that. So I got to make my own standalone, like, movie of the week. They're going to give me $150 million to make a movie of the week for Disney Plus. But I have to put it in the theaters. And that's what I'm going to do. What I don't think is going to happen is them launching a new film franchise because of it. It was made a learning program. What I do think can happen is that if it's mildly successful, it could get people excited to see that season before.
Starting point is 00:40:44 so Mike you hear these comments you haven't been like me he's like we'll see what happens with this movie but what do you think about the comments? I think it's the fact that like we had said with what he says about this wasn't season four we had to redo it and this and that so I mean clearly of course they did they had you know how many ever episodes 13 or whatever episodes you know you can't you got to fit that into two our movies so you got to make changes um I think if a movie does incredibly well it will make another one. If it doesn't,
Starting point is 00:41:16 I don't know we see the Mandelorian again. Right. But again, it's like Michael Jackson. I don't feel this is, people are talking about this. It seems like to me, when people are thinking of summer movies, this one feels like an
Starting point is 00:41:31 afterthought. Yeah, I mean, look, it doesn't feel like whether you like D.C. or not, people are talking about Supergirl. Whether they think it's going to be terrible and it's going to bomb because of that you know whatever side you fall on on and whatnot but at least it's being talked about at least in the conversation every time it's in the conversation anytime a trailer drops or something drops and they say the thing about publicity no no bad publicity or no nothing
Starting point is 00:41:58 negative is bad yeah but mandolarian like after super bowl people were talking about it they said horrible commercial right we're talking yeah that was super bowl roxy that was two months ago right like right now getting in a summer season Yeah, the cinema con stuff was the most positive response I've seen on the conversation thus far, even for people that I am that weren't excited about it. So, look, the first 15, 20 minutes we saw was pretty good. I saw the trailer, and the trailer to me looks like a really good trailer for a Disney Plus TV movie. It's hard because we fell in love with these characters.
Starting point is 00:42:39 And I mean, God, do you remember it? It sucks. it's seven years ago now when that show debuted. But it was awesome. And it devolved over the course of three seasons. And by the end of it, we were all like, what are we watching here? So it's kind of hard. It's not like they ended three fantastic seasons.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Like, oh my God, we're getting a movie? Hell yeah. Now we're like. I agree with 100%. But do you see, though, how if this one does recapture that feeling of one and two that you might get people excited for season four? Are they going to do a season four? Like, is that like a definite?
Starting point is 00:43:14 There is a serious. I thought he said a franchise and like they'd go movies from now on. No, he had talked about wanting to do season four at one point. Maybe not in that interview, but I think that it would justify it. Because Roxy, you know, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on it because I was like talking to you about Star Wars because you're taking on that kind of casual perspective, right? So is this a movie that you're, I know that you want to see it, but are you excited to see this movie? Yeah. You are.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Okay. I really dug the most recent trailer. Okay. they're not going super plot heavy, but like, yeah, I love Sigourney Weaver and I love Mandalorian Grogo. So like watching it, it felt way more cinematic than the show did in this most recent trailer. But I haven't spoken to one person who feels the way that I do because all of my friends are such diehard fans. Yeah. It's you guys. It's DJ. It's Steph Sabra. You know, and so I'm on a little bit of an island here, but yeah, I'm stoked about this movie.
Starting point is 00:44:08 And I honestly think there's probably a lot of me. out there even though I'm not friends with them. Disney hopes so. Yeah. I don't know. I wonder the people who are going to see this movie. I really wonder how many people are going to see this movie who have never watched the show. I think that you might get kids in there to see Grogo.
Starting point is 00:44:28 You might because they're marketing with and smartly is Grogoy, right? They're marketing with him. So this is another one, though, that just needs to make, you know, between 400 and 500 and $150 million, right? Or whatever it needs to. I think it's going to do just around in the 400 range worldwide.
Starting point is 00:44:52 If it gets to $5.50, I think that's the ceiling. But if you get to that number of that 450 to 550, that will allow you to make a season four. I don't know if it allows you to make another movie. I think that would be stupid to make another movie.
Starting point is 00:45:07 You should just focus on what you got going on with Starfighter and everything else moving forward. But there are some people out there and I've been calling them out saying that this movie's going to make... Not they're not supposed to call people out on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Not by name. Not by name. I've seen people saying they're going to make a billion. This movie's going to make a billion. At one point... No world. Dude, some people are saying two billion. Are you out of your...
Starting point is 00:45:36 I didn't say that. Fucking minds. Yeah. And so they... Are those people what like walk of life are those people from? They're in this space. Fantasy land. They're in the space and they're Star Wars fans and they still are thinking that this movie's going to make a billion dollars. I said I will never go to Vegas for these people, ever.
Starting point is 00:45:54 I don't see a Star Wars movie making a billion dollars ever again. I don't agree with that. What's up? I said I don't agree with that. Well, let me say why. Let me say my point. Because the three people that you have involved with Star Wars that are Star Wars, what it is
Starting point is 00:46:11 two or you know one is no longer with us and the other two's characters have been killed so you're not bringing them back to get a Donnie Jr., Chris Evans type Marvel, hey we got to bring the fans back and you think without you think
Starting point is 00:46:29 you're saying without them there's no way to make a billion dollars I'm sorry if they were in I don't know well enough to know if you're talking about actors. Carrie Fisher and Harry Fisher's past but They knew one of them.
Starting point is 00:46:40 I guess Carrie Fisher was kind of in Rogue One. Kind of. We're not doing that. I'm not, we're not doing that. But Rogue One made a billion dollars without them. Yeah, but Rogue One was in the height of their movies out.
Starting point is 00:46:54 No, no, you're missing my point. Yeah. That's, that Rogue one came out. I'm saying now after that has been diluted. Yes,
Starting point is 00:47:02 yes. 100%. I don't, I don't, dude, let me finish. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Do you see that thing recently they did with Darwin? This is an official Star Wars product. They're releasing these jackets. Like they're coming out. And they're blind boxes so you don't know what you're getting. There's six of them. They're doing six Star Wars movies. Which three did they not include in these?
Starting point is 00:47:22 The sequel trilogy. Like they are, I read this fantastic article on everything that Disney since then because of Galaxy's Edge, they pinned it to the new trilogy. And Chapix kind of ad his mantra was, we're going to make people forget about
Starting point is 00:47:39 the original trilogy. We want people to forget about that. And this is Star Wars going forward. The way that that's hurt the brand of Star Wars so much so that I don't think it ever captures the magic of what it was. I don't think it ever does. Ever. Ever. Ever is a long time. Again, against my judgment, because to me, I love Star Wars without the Skywalker's in it. But it's so intrinsically tied to that. And it's the past seven years, you have to look back. Like, I don't think Marvel is what Star Wars, like as far as damaging a brand. I don't think Marvel did that. I think Marvel tried to do stuff differently because they wanted to because they could
Starting point is 00:48:16 and it just didn't work. Whereas Star Wars, because Marvel had enough hits. Star Wars didn't have enough hits. Sure. $17 million, $70 billion of hits. Roxy,
Starting point is 00:48:27 go ahead. But Star Wars. Let box you go. Go ahead. Star Wars doesn't have as big of a barrier to entry as Marvel does at this point. And I think that that will really help it with the younger audience. Because people can, kind of just start with Starfighter.
Starting point is 00:48:40 They can just kind of jump in. Marvel, they have a really hard time ever giving an entry point for people, for new fans. Yeah. I mean, look, here's what I think is going to happen, though. You don't agree with that? I don't think so. You think someone can just jump into Doomsday and be as invested as?
Starting point is 00:48:58 No, but that's because Marvel's not doing, Marvel hasn't needed, like they've never had a break. That's like saying it the original trilogy kept. going. But they stopped for, for, what, 15 years before they even did the sequels. And then it was however long until they did the new ones. It was like they had these big breaks. Marvel's still going. No, I know you're saying, but I think I think when they get to the X-Men, the new X-Men, then that's when you can jump in. That'll be a jumping on point. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:49:28 They just haven't had a jumping on point. In a bit. I think that's what Mike's saying to. They just haven't had to stop the chance to quit. So you're both saying the same thing in agreeing with it. But I will tell you that I think that I want to revisit this conversation, Mike, with a billion dollars thing, when Star, after Starfighter, because that to me is, because I've said this on record many times, Mandelaire and Grogo is not an indication right now if Star Wars is a, is a, is a, is a, is a, is a, is a, is a, is a really hurting, theatrical brand. It isn't yet because the reason why they went into this business venture for Mandolin and Grogo at 150, million dollars is because the business side of it is let's make at least 500 million on it
Starting point is 00:50:13 call it a day make a little money on it put some money into the show great that's a win now it's not a win in the overall brand of things you couldn't imagine star wars not making a billion dollars and people go oh my god it made less than solo when they're not understanding how math works um but it's starfighter if starfighter is out the gate in this tracking mic low at like same thing five now that movie's going to cost 200 million dollars plus if not more If that movie only makes $500 million, then I start to go, Mike might be right here, at least in the time being with the current regime, unless they get their shit straight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:51 I mean, look. Roxie Calvert's just about to say. Decades more past this regime. I just don't ever believe in ever. But I mean, I do this. Do you guys think that space balls, too, will make more than, Mandalorian and Grogu? No. No. No world.
Starting point is 00:51:11 No. I think, I think, Rox, I think Roxy, that is a specific movie for a specific generation of people. I don't think the 20, 18 year old kid. Yeah, naked can prove that. Like Harlov, you went nuts for that movie. I thought it was good. I feel the hype killed it, but Gen X or Gen Z or millennials, they didn't care. They didn't go see it. Like, this baseballs will laugh at it, but
Starting point is 00:51:36 the 18 year olds on TikTok aren't giving a shit about not blocking out to see it in the theater at least no no wouldn't that be unbelievable what if space balls two made a billion dollars that would be great I love that line I mean you think though of Harle of what space balls did with the original trilogy
Starting point is 00:51:52 it is ripe yeah totally for just destroying the past 15 years of Star Wars destroying it I'm worried and that could get everyone on board and go yeah you said everything we wanted to say I'm worried though that they're going to do all sci-fi movies and not just Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:52:07 They should just stick with Star Wars. Yeah, I mean, the original one deal. There was aliens to one bit, but like, it was a couple jokes here and there. A couple jokes, but it needs to stick to Star Wars. But on the other hand, Spaceballs is a great movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Even though it's a parody, it's still a great movie. Yeah. I don't know. But I don't see it ever making more than Mando, Rox. Nah. Well, just the way you guys are talking about Mando is like it's going to bomb. I don't think it's going to bomb.
Starting point is 00:52:34 No. But, Rox, when I say this, that. Even, even, even, Rise of Skywalker, which is reviled by everybody,
Starting point is 00:52:43 that made a billion. Because it was just in the, it was in it all still. You were still, the hype of it. It was still there. It was just, this to me,
Starting point is 00:52:51 this to me is a, is a, Captain America, Brave New World, Thunderbolts, Star Wars movie. It's coming off of, it's coming off of the downside.
Starting point is 00:53:02 People, the negativity's there. Right. It might be good. It might be good. like Thunderbolts was a great movie, but people just didn't care anymore. Fantastic Four is great.
Starting point is 00:53:12 $500 million. This is why Starfighter is so important. It's so important because it's going to set it up like five or six years after the new trilogy and introduce new characters and really show if Mike is right or wrong. Because if Mike's right and you don't have these kind of characters in there and some of the new trilogy characters show up and nobody gives you shit,
Starting point is 00:53:32 then they've just got to, reboot. What do you think the odds are? And I hope to God it doesn't, but that someone like Mando, Grogu, Luke shows up in Starfighter. Luke?
Starting point is 00:53:47 I hope to God it's no one. Luke's dead in Star. You're saying you're saying it's a ghost? Like the forest ghost? Forest Ghost or like, like what? Yeah. I think Ray might have a cameo.
Starting point is 00:54:00 I think that Ray See, now they do that. I'd say this. If they attach a Ray thing to set up a Ray hurts the movie. Let it be a standalone. Just let it be Ryan Gosling being awesome in space fighting in a starship.
Starting point is 00:54:13 I'm curious. Don't tie it to anything. I'm like, there's part of me that agrees with that and it's part of me that disagrees it. It's a longer conversation. But anyway, what do you guys think about this? What do you think about the fact that, you know, they're going to be doing a...
Starting point is 00:54:29 Perfect. Thank you. Good. I'm stretching. channel. So what do you think about this in general? Mandalore and Grogu, put your thoughts in there, let us know. If you're not already subscribed to the clip channel, please do so. Trying to get to 20,000 on that one. We just reached 120,000 on 100,000. Nope, 220,000 on this channel. My writing partner has surpassed me an Instagram followers after three weeks on Instagram. There's over 65,000 followers, TMI, Tammy.
Starting point is 00:55:04 I'm trying to get to 100,000. But the audience got to show up for me. How does we need to get that to translate to her? Right, because it's the character, you're saying? Yeah. Well, I mean, the character does show up briefly in the show. No, I just mean, like, I wonder if she can start doing crossovers with her Instagram. I know.
Starting point is 00:55:26 I know. You just want people to recognize her. Right. We just got the wig and stuff on. That's true. But we have a lot going on. She's doing so great. She's doing amazing. So great.
Starting point is 00:55:35 And so we have a lot coming up with that with the show. So I'm going to let everybody know. Okay. But it's time to talk TV. We got TV and I want to see if it's on the list. Roxy, I didn't look at the full list. Is Rooster on the list? No, but I'm caught up.
Starting point is 00:55:51 So they just sent, I thought, because they had sent seven episodes. I thought it was only seven episodes, but they just sent episode eight this morning. Wow. And I saw the coming two. I really like that. I didn't watch. You haven't seen seven yet? Sunday.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Let's see which number. That was seven. I love the show though. It's really good. It's really, really good. Yeah, I haven't seen seven. I've only seen three six. It's just a show that like I need in my life because there's so many shows out there that
Starting point is 00:56:22 just dark. And I'm sure that the majority of my own is reality TV, the stuff you're going to talk about. I assume is dark. I don't know. It's also a day. Dad daughter show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, sure. But Sadie loves it too.
Starting point is 00:56:34 I just say Sadie likes. And we watch that together because it's just a feel good show. I really like it. I think Steve Carls do great work. He is. He's doing great work. Yeah. God, he's got the Paul Rudd effect.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Like, he just gets, like, better and hotter and cooler. He's really great in this. He's really good. But this is not covered on the TV. There's other stuff that is, and we're going to talk about it right now. It's Roxy's TV. Roxy, let's take it away with the first one here. Where is it?
Starting point is 00:57:03 Here it comes. Okay. Old picture, but beef dropped a new season with a different cast than this. Did you guys watch the first beef? No. You never watch, neither of you ever watch the first beef? No, ma'am. Oh, whoa.
Starting point is 00:57:22 The show's so great. The season is less direct beef, but more intricate beef? And I'm really into it. I'm really, really into it. We've got Carrie Mulligan and Oscar Isaac. And then Kaylee Spaney and Charles Spatham. Oh, that's a good cast. It's so much fun that they're dealing with like,
Starting point is 00:57:49 the show is about beef. Like the first season is about a car accident and like having beef with each other because that this one's about So these two aren't even on the show No Awesome No no they were season one It's an anthology it's an anthology of beef
Starting point is 00:58:10 Yes Okay Which is why I think you guys would love it Like and like the beef always starts Pettish next season is roken mic Beef The Outlaw and Killer Beef
Starting point is 00:58:22 And they show like how petty beef just continues to grow and take over it's fun as hell. I love this show. All right. Next one. I just watched it. I've got money trouble.
Starting point is 00:58:35 You just watch this? I watched the beginning of it. I bailed. Yeah, I wouldn't recommend this to you. Yeah, I bill. It's based on a book. Apple's putting a lot into this show. I think that this first episode,
Starting point is 00:58:50 I haven't watched episode two yet. The first episode was enough to keep me intrigued. The sex scenes were so unrealistic. It's so stupid. He was just like throwing her up against. They were like dancing on the wall. So stupid. Like you don't think you could carry her?
Starting point is 00:59:03 No, it wasn't that they didn't carry. But they didn't even look like they were fucking. It looked like they were like, he looked like he was just like slapping her against the wall. It did not look like they were having sex. That is so funny. Because I literally watched those scenes and was like,
Starting point is 00:59:18 I got to get tossed against a wall. Like it didn't cost against a wall. It didn't cost against a wall is fun. But that didn't look like they were actually having sex. It looked like he was like trying to wrestle her. You know who knows about sex? My barber. That's right.
Starting point is 00:59:31 I went in there for a haircut and then I came out with a limp. I'm glad you guys think you're so funny. I went for a haircut. Had to see the chiropractor. That's right. I've been I've been bedside for the last six months. Go ahead, Robin. I like the show.
Starting point is 00:59:56 I'm with you, Rox. I'm against. I'm for sex. against the walls. Me too. I didn't say that it wasn't. You didn't see the scene, Mike. It just not, it just didn't look like real sex. All right. Next. Your friends and neighbors, I think is maybe even better this season than last season. They added James Marsden to the cast. He's such a great addition. I love watching rich people struggle. That's what the show is. And I try to figure it out.
Starting point is 01:00:24 It's funny. It's well done. It's got a great cast. John Hamm at the helm of it is chef's kiss definitely worth of time james marsden me too man euphoria has completely changed the kind of show it is for this season you said it was like a complete crime drama yeah it's an absolute crime drama yeah um to the point where dj woldridge uh who friend of the show and uh friend of mine and christians he watched the first episode of the season three having not seen the show oh and was like i love this and i was like i love this and i was like Like, yeah, you wouldn't have. It was like high schooler drug sex show and now is like crime drama, like strip club adult.
Starting point is 01:01:15 I'm really into it. People are not liking it though. And I get why. If you love that, it wouldn't necessarily translate to this. Okay. Roxy. Face Lift. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Roxy, I don't watch Euphoria. But all I ever see is Sydney, Sweeney and like lingerie and weird. positions. Is that like, is she, what is her character in the show? She's doing an amazing job on the show. She decides in this season, she's with Jacob Allorty's character. They're getting married. And he refuses to pay for the flowers she wants. So she decides to join OnlyFams. That's what we talked about you and I. Right. Remember we were about the flowers? Yes. Okay. So gotcha. So she's all. Why she's doing all that. And that's an only fans like, I'll be honest. She's doing an amazing job as an actress. Like, she's,
Starting point is 01:02:01 so good in the show. I'm kind of surprised she was willing to do this. That's what I'm saying. Like the things I see her doing. She's actually like What is she doing? I know that she's People show screenshots of it and I'm just like oh my God. I just been crawling around on like
Starting point is 01:02:17 dog outfits and stuff. Yeah that but like I mean nudity like there was a scene she's like spread eagle with like bunny ears but she had lingerie and I'm just like maybe I should be watching this show. Yeah. Her character's really not hot. Like that it's,
Starting point is 01:02:33 she's like the running joke of the show is how not sexy she is. That's just fucking fantasy land. Yeah, if you watch it though, you'd be like, oh my God, she's the least attractive character ever. Would I know?
Starting point is 01:02:47 Yes. Yes. Would I, Roxy? I think Sydney's hot as hell. The character, Cassie, is like, so gross. Gotcha. Yeah, I'm just surprised
Starting point is 01:02:59 that she was willing to do this. I mean, I don't know. know that I would have been willing to take this role. Like, oh, really? Yeah. I mean, she's like doing only fans. Like she, yeah, it's a lot.
Starting point is 01:03:11 All right. All right. Next one after the two left. You guys are watching Dear Devil, right? Yeah. Yeah, caught up. I'm not. Oh, actually, I'm caught up.
Starting point is 01:03:20 I mean, I'm actually one ahead. I watched tonight's episode of the job. Dude, I cannot wait to watch what Kingpin does that post-Varasa. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so that's, well, I don't want Mike to No, but I mean, it's got spoiled online already for me. I saw a screenshot. It's good.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Roxy, what happens next? It's good. I'm so excited. I'm really liking the season and it was the best episode yet. It's getting better or better. All right. Last one for now. Man, the boys have me on the edge of my seat.
Starting point is 01:03:50 I'm so excited. I don't know what's going to happen. I really hope that we take him the F down, liking the season way better than last season. Good final season so far. All right. Well, there you go. There's Roxy's picks, everybody.
Starting point is 01:04:02 So make sure you, if you haven't already, uh, subscribe to the clips channel where we put a lot of the Roxy picks. Make sure you also throw in some suggestions for Roxy as she like to take them. Uh, thank you, Roxy for those as always. All right, guys, 34 going into the Roca battle. Mike, what a way to win one, even if you're not going to debate, but to go to 112 today. Can we do it? Let's see. Yeah, I feel like we got to step up our game right now.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Oh, my God. 34 is good to start with. Michael D. Great picture. Early support. Thank you. More support just for Mike and Rokon. Who's that? That's Michael D. Is that me? Yeah, it's you. Doing what? Making a ridiculous face is bond. Okay. That's cool. Nathan Drake, how can they ever make a movie about a controversial figure when that person's family, friends want to be involved in the production? Yeah, that's the biggest. That's the drop. That is the problem. You know, and that's why you're going to run into what a lot of people did with Michael because it's like, you know, if you're, if your brothers are making the film about you, they're like, hey, we want to put this in there,
Starting point is 01:05:05 but this kind of like, no, don't put that in there. We don't want to, we don't want to ruin his legacy, you know, so, and that happens with a lot of these things. Go Pal, I wasn't feeling well this weekend. I revisited the runarounds. I still need to finish the finale, but I think it's worth checking out, Roxy. Huh, okay. Which one's that? Um, go pal's been recommending that show for a minute. Let's see. Is that, is that about the band? Um, Are I making that up? I don't think so. It was canceled.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Oh, after one season. It's really hard to get me to start to watch a show that's canceled. Oh, Roxy, are we doing the One Piece thing here today? If you win, if you win the week, you watch... I'd watch two more episodes if I would. We did. Oh, you're saying you'll watch... I will.
Starting point is 01:05:52 We could put it on the table, yep. Okay. So Roxy will watch episodes one and two of One Piece if they beat Roker today. one if we beat roka i'll watch one if we win the week i'll watch two i wanted to fair enough okay all right so bobby coming in hot roxy i've seen you do a lot of reactions but i but i have never seen you as shook as you were for the ending of creep show i saw that as a kid and i couldn't eat rasonbrandt studio for years afterwards you watched creep show that's hilarious you know my biggest fear is cockroaches oh i didn't know that was your biggest
Starting point is 01:06:23 fear they didn't fucking tell me oh that's hilarious i got to watch but you want to know what it was I went back and rewatched it because I had to edit some stuff for it for social. And I didn't speak for 20 minutes. I wasn't screaming. I wasn't doing anything. I was disassociated. I just sat there like this. It's really good.
Starting point is 01:06:42 I was trying to survive. Luke, if you have, if you have time, just see if you can pull like 10 seconds of that. And we'll show Roxy freaking out. I literally, I have it on my thing. I'm editing it right now. He's got to send me the, are you going to share it? Are you going to share it?
Starting point is 01:07:04 All right, well, let's see first. Jalen Turner, reviews, schmooze. I don't give it. This is what I look like. I just sat there like that. Reviews, schmooze. I don't give a flying, flipping frick. I got tickets from me and my entire family
Starting point is 01:07:20 to go see Michael, which is super rare for my family to never go to the movies. That's going to be why I don't think Mike's correct about the, about it bomb. I've been wrong. before and I've been wrong and again. I see it. It's really so pissed off. I love it. Hold on. I'm going to watch it. My choice. Silo season three out July 3. It's a great show. By the way, just go back to, first of all, Jalen, thank you for the very generous super chat.
Starting point is 01:07:47 So when it comes to Jalen going to the movies with his family and everything too, I think there are going to be families that are going there. And Jail and I also asked you this question. I think I know the answer, but I would assume that you're in the camp of no, no, I think that he didn't do any wrong doing. And I think that there's enough of those people that are going to get this movie to very, very successful state. Not to mention, and we haven't said this at all, and I don't know the most classy way to say this,
Starting point is 01:08:13 but like the black audience is riding in droves for this. And that if you can get a diehard group of people to go to the theaters in 2026, usually your movie performance very well. Yeah. Mike Joyce said silent season 3,000 July. It's a great show. Yeah, Roxy Lowe's I once you talked about it.
Starting point is 01:08:36 I still got to see it. Battery. Christian, yes you say, Shalami lost his Oscar for his ballet comments. It's not the only reason he lost, but he's definitely lost because, not a bit silly, because you're wrong here. Voting takes place prior to those comments going viral.
Starting point is 01:08:48 I mean, people were very aware of it inside of the Oscar people who were voting. Yes, there were maybe, yeah, they didn't go viral. But those people vote. And it wasn't the only thing he said. And he's David Kardashian. It's a whole vibe around it.
Starting point is 01:09:04 I don't agree with it. I'm just saying. Yes. But it wasn't better. I wasn't saying that was the only reason. But it led it added to it. People were over him. He didn't lose because he didn't have a great performance.
Starting point is 01:09:15 He was the front runner and he was winning every other award. He lost because he talked. He was talking too much. People would not like him what he's saying. His public persona cost him. Her personal and things that he said cost him that Oscar. And I'll, and I'll dig my hands. he'll send to that.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Jake, Christian, you look like Johnny three tears from Hollywood undead? What I'm what that is? Who's Johnny three tears? Is that an insult? Let's see, let's see everyone. Probably. Probably.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Johnny three tears. I mean, I don't think it's an insult. I don't look anything like this person. Roxy, did I look anything like this person? I don't think so. Who? Johnny. Why don't you ask me if you look like him?
Starting point is 01:09:55 Are you going to put one? I don't respect your opinion. Go ahead, Roxy. See what you. Let me look. I like nothing like this person. Um, okay. Alexander Wilson,
Starting point is 01:10:04 the Michael movie originally had the trial in it with, with Mike Teller, the Miles Teller, Miles Teller. I'm confused. His guy is like, added. There was something like me.
Starting point is 01:10:17 That was nothing. This Michael movie originally had the trial in it with Miles Teller playing his lawyer. Ah. Oh, but the, Miles Teller is in the movie. There's also... He is a lawyer. He is a lawyer.
Starting point is 01:10:37 One of his attorneys who is representing him. Yes, he is. But the studio was sent to a legal letter that they couldn't portray it legal-wise and have to take that part out and reshoot the movie. He's playing a version of it. I mean, he's not playing, you know, he's not covering that aspect of it. But yeah, he is. Seattle CAO. Is there biopic fatigue? No.
Starting point is 01:10:58 You put a good... I mean, Bob Dylan movie already proved that that no. I think that that's almost impossible. It's an impossible. Yeah. Biopic is just. No. And we don't even know how this movie did yet before you can say any fatigue about it.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Yeah. Okay. Alexander Wilson. Antoine Fouca said they filmed the opening being the law enforcement's raid on Neverland Ranch. And they had to edit that out. That's interesting. That's a costly decision. But that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:11:30 saying though what i'm saying is that um they um you know the that the family was like no no no take it out that i mean you got to be handcuffed as a director at that point you know yeah amen mash too many people make too many people mistake biopics and documentaries i mean you know what's funny is bonnie summerville text meister she said like how did the rock not watch the not win for the smashing machine i guess she was watching yesterday and i said i never watched he's really good in it it rocks no he's he's he's really really good in it but the reason i said look first of all i didn't do very well that's a part one part two is that if you watch the documentary they pretty much just reshot the documentary as a feature film it's this it's the same movie
Starting point is 01:12:17 um so that case biopic documentaries smash your machine is kind of like the same exact thing uh 28 vasco i'm a huge michael jackson fan but not a delusional one. I don't shine away of the dark complexity of his life and career. That's fair. Curious to what you think when you see the movie. What would shine away be? I just, I think it's so, it's funny, and I used to do this after the doc came out, but I really try not to anymore. People who are like all capitals, this is what happened. Like, I don't know. I don't think any of us are shying away. It's just like, IDK.
Starting point is 01:13:01 Yeah, that's what it is. I don't know. Okay, let's see. Next one. So, so far as we are now at 41, we get to the next to 20 years. I'm having fun. Yep, I'm excited, but apprehensive about the movie.
Starting point is 01:13:18 It seems safe and sanitized. 1,000% it's safe and sanitized, which is disappointing. Then you'll be disappointed. It's safe and sanitized. It's a perfect way to put it. Would have preferred that it humanizes him. They try to do that.
Starting point is 01:13:30 They try to do that, but by, but by shying away from the darker stuff. Erigo, with Endgame getting re-released in theaters with new post-credit scene, how much do you think it will bring in? Can see that bringing in big numbers. What do you think the re-release of Endgame does? When is it? I didn't even know. Over. Worldwide.
Starting point is 01:13:51 What do you think it does? I have no idea. Mike. When do they release it? October. No. Because I just asked that. I know.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Sorry. He's all right. So, Roxy, what's the thing? So you said, you want to call, like,
Starting point is 01:14:13 a comment like that to me on air, but what I do with Roca isn't fair? Do we just answer the question, please? I don't know. And how about I don't care. I didn't care. I said it was totally fair.
Starting point is 01:14:26 You don't care? I think it's a cash grab. I think it's a cash grab. I think, hey, we're going to stick this new thing on there. Like, I look at this and I go, just make a damn good movie. Hey, we can't get IMAX theaters. So we're creating vision quest to watch this movie in. And come watch Endgame with this critic, this extra seed so you understand this movie.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Make a fucking good movie. Answer the question. How much money does it make? 250, if that. Worldwide? Yeah. We've all seen it. That would be so much money.
Starting point is 01:15:04 You think it's going to make $250 million? I was going to guess like, I was going to guess like 30. It'll be more than that. But $250 is a, is a big. I don't know. You know what I was going to say my number was big. And I was going to say $1.10. Oh.
Starting point is 01:15:22 I think it's going to do worldwide. And I doubled it. Wait, okay. I have no idea about re-releases how much they make. But I would like to stand my ground. Excuse me. Yes, they do pretty well. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Mike, I stood by what you did with Roca. Did you miss that part? No, you said you didn't see both, you saw both sides. No, I said I think it's completely legit that you tweeted at him because that's what you guys do. That's right. I would like it to be known. Bobby, right or right?
Starting point is 01:15:53 Sometimes the music will super steed the controversy. I thought for sure Kanye was done in the eyes of the public until his concert sold out. well yeah it's also okay but in all fairness but this i like don't stand for and bojacks i totally get your question but this isn't theoretical controversy this isn't we're not sure what he did in the very public eye you can feel how you want about it but conier did what he did nobody's wondering what conier did no but he's still a controversial figure is what he means totally i'm just saying I think that the reason with the Michael situation that people are not sure is because they don't know. They don't know for sure.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Kanye, you can make whatever decision you want, but you can't claim you don't know. Yeah, I think he's, I agree. I hear what you're saying, but I also think that he means more so with just the controversial figures in general that he said, the stuff that he said, he just thought it was damning and that was it. I thought he was done. I thought he was done. And I have public, but no. No, behold, my friends going to see him in Los Angeles, two nights in a row sold out shows. Do you give them shit?
Starting point is 01:16:59 I didn't because they know. Like, if that's what you decide to do. Roxy? Yeah. Let me ask you something. So dealing with that situation, I think I feel the same way, and I have no skin in the game like you do.
Starting point is 01:17:13 I mean, is it, but watching the people for Chris Brown, watching the throngs of people. Like, I watched this video of him, he was kind of like walking somewhere, and the throngs of women following him, knowing. it's not it's not an opinion the fact of what he does and how he treats women and it didn't stop is that's the
Starting point is 01:17:34 problem oh my god i know people who are like that was years ago and it's like but have you stayed up to date with everything he's done since it's continuous yeah it's crazy it's crazy look at all the people that support paul run it's good all right so next one after that you take my king's name out of your my choice sounds like the music movie to see this weekend is mother mary it looks incredible yeah i know i missed the freaking uh that they i had a ran a green problem it's a anne hathaway movie and she's supposed to be incredible in it yeah i want to see it i want to see it um all right next one after that red carpet talk i think there's three biopic types traditional selina and christie epic amadeus and subversa beautiful mind i tony these are my favorites of each type it's a great that's absolutely
Starting point is 01:18:22 where does where does springsteen that's true i would have liked to see in a a traditional um i guess it's somewhere between traditional and subversive because it kind of like just such a small chapter as opposed to slain and christie but true i would like to see the traditional for uh bruce uh rene reyes we don't always know the full truth must of what most of what we believe comes from what we see in here fair take everything with a grain of salt and form your own view i'm excited for Michael and it's going to do 800 million plus. You know, I wouldn't, you know what's funny is that I would be more surprised if it bombed than if it made 800 million. Yeah, me too, just because of the built-in audience. Right. But, you know, if this movie does make a billion dollars,
Starting point is 01:19:11 yeah, I think it will be very telling. Hmm. Interesting. I like the state of movies, you know, people continue to say like movie theaters are not too, but it's like, if you get people to theater and they care about something. They'll go. Yeah, it's a good point. Dancing Dog 60. I don't think John Favreau gets enough credit for shaping the early MCU. I think he and Joss really laid the ground like, do you agree?
Starting point is 01:19:35 Cheers. Roxy, fuck the world. I do 100 percent. I think he gets more credit than you think. But he's not mentioned as much as maybe he should be. Yes, Doug, for sure. I think that he definitely should. Look, if that movie doesn't work,
Starting point is 01:19:51 there is no MC. so he should get the credit because at end and he's the one that pushed for downy they were friends and he he pushed for him because they couldn't even sure downy the student didn't want downy so he he made that happen so he should get the flowers as the kids say as far as you and just we didn't set up the Avengers really well i actually don't mind Avengers too as much as everybody else does i actually really like it i've seen it a few times i like Avengers too better better than the first one it's it's two's good strings uh Alexander Wilson, don't sleep on the devil wears Prada too.
Starting point is 01:20:25 I've seen online tracking where it's going to debut with over a hundred million tracking. Oh, no one's sleeping. No, no. I just don't think it's going to be a hit to Michael. Yeah, it's a different audience. Yeah. I mean, I could not be more excited about the devil wears product too. Yeah. My ass will be in that seat. Yeah. It's, you know, I've never, I've seen like bits and pieces of the first one. I've got to react to that one before I see because I'm going to see the second one next month. It's so good. Yeah. I got to see it. I'm assuming Steph has seen that, right?
Starting point is 01:20:56 Yeah. Dancing Dog 60. I couldn't care less about Michael Jackson myself. Fair. And I think it's going to be a lot of people that feel the same way. Thank you, Motown, Mo. Bobby, if they are able to make the Mandalorian movies for less money and make profit, I can see them making it a safe movie franchise for them going,
Starting point is 01:21:12 instead of going back to Disney Plus for more seasons. I don't think you're wrong if the movie makes about $750 million. because it makes that much and it does 750 to 800 million, then that would justify making a second one for the amount of money that they have. But for 375, 550, so thanks. Plus they need more content for Disney Plus. Parker Haller, Michael reviews read the same as Bohemian Rhapsody 2018. Is that true?
Starting point is 01:21:44 The Bohemian Rhapsody 2018, the reviews not good? I don't remember them being that low. Generic by the numbers, biotech, and leaving out aspects that objectively are major legacy. Let me see what it is. Let's guess. I'm going to say that it was a, I would have guessed beforehand that it's 75, but I'll guess now. I'll say 56%. Mike, you want to guess? I'll say 63. Okay, fair. I can't guess because I looked too quickly.
Starting point is 01:22:15 What is it? It's 60. Okay, so right around, Mike and I were, we're, we're. pretty close. I said 56. I don't think then they could have possibly been at 30 when it first came out. He usually didn't want that. No, but he's not saying he's not necessarily saying that they had the same score, but he's saying that a lot of the reviews read the same, right? Generic by the numbers, biopic and leaving out aspects of directly a more. And I remember when we covered that, that a lot of that stuff that's what we said earlier, right? That a lot of people
Starting point is 01:22:41 said that because of who's producing it, they're going to be more, a little more protective. Aiden becomes a YouTube member, thank you. Sorry, Aiden Gent, 6916, thank you so much. Good time. We did a lot of behind unedited reactions. Sam and I are two episodes away from finishing Game of Thrones. We aired a whole thing, the whole champagne.
Starting point is 01:23:03 Yeah, we aired season eight episodes, four and five today. No, three and four today. Five and six are as Friday, that's the end of it. And then we get into House of the Dragon. Okay. Dancing Dog 60. Can Grogo live long enough to meet up with Ray? I mean, you can. You got to explain what the hell happens to that puppet. You got to explain what happens to him. What do you mean? Like, where is he during the new trilogy?
Starting point is 01:23:37 Is Grogo going to die? I mean, where does he go? Maybe he's in another universe or something, but you got to explain what happens to him. Why isn't he helping Ray in the new trilogy? where is he? Where is he? Where is Assoca? A lot of questions. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:55 Where's Assoca? Where's, where's Grogo? Where are they? But hey, it's a galaxy far, far away, and it's a huge galaxy. Look, they explain Thron and Ezra. You're talking to the wrong guy, pal. Oh, sorry, this is my choice. Mike Joyce, as the Residence Patriots fan,
Starting point is 01:24:13 do you care about the Deanna Rossini, Mike Grable, drama, Rokka. It's a massive scandal. Why does he think it's a massive scandal? I mean, a lot of people do. That's a reporter that was banging the coach? That's what you think. Oh, is that, that's not, that's not.
Starting point is 01:24:29 There was those images that were released of them. We don't know. Listen, it would be, I don't know. Okay. Yes, I care about it. Yeah. But listen, as a Patriot's diehard, I'm no stranger to controversy when it comes to my team.
Starting point is 01:24:49 So, but yeah, I don't know. Until we know, I've been trying not to talk about it. Dancing Dog 60, Starfighter ends with another death star blowing up. God help us all. Aiden, what's up, Aiden? Mando and Grogu is the first Star Wars film in my lifetime that I'm not going to be seeing in theaters. Zero interest. Speaking of zero interest, Supergirl, yawn, just make a Lobo Max series.
Starting point is 01:25:14 I haven't, you're going to get very different opinions up here. on Supergirl. I happen to be with you on this one. I haven't seen anything that has made me want to see this movie in the theater, minus the fact that we're going to go see the press screening, but I hope I'm wrong from everything that I hear about the story itself. But I know Roxy and Mike are very excited about it. But what do you think there's more excitement for overall?
Starting point is 01:25:38 What do you think is tracking better? Is it Supergirl or Amanda and Grogo? Mando and Grogo. You think so? Hmm. I'm so worried about Supergirl. Okay. I why?
Starting point is 01:25:52 Huh? Because I think that people really genuinely aren't going to go see it. People are not excited about it. We'll say that. I am not people, obviously. Right. It's my most anticipated movie, but I'm reading the tea leaves.
Starting point is 01:26:10 You read the tea leaves from our circle that's online vocal Twitter or the world in general? The world in general. World in general is not talking. the movie's four months out. Yeah. It's just my... You know what people are talking about right now? Mortal Kombat.
Starting point is 01:26:26 Because that comes out in two months and the trailer looks great. The people online, the producers that are on vocal about it out there's saying, hey, we heard the problems with the first one. We fixed them. And people are excited for it.
Starting point is 01:26:37 I'll be stoked to be wrong. Me too. But what do you guys think? What do you think, like, in what world... I don't know. Yeah. It makes $400 million.
Starting point is 01:26:52 That's a huge success, I think, for them. It's super girl. It is super girl. Even with the budget, Mike. Then it loses money. But that I can't speak. I don't know what the budget is because the budget, they said it was $100 million. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:27:08 That was the most recent one. Yeah. I don't know. All right. Well, I don't know what the actual budget number is, whatever it might be. if it does actually come in at, let's say, 140, 150, I think my opinion is that it's going to break even. And that's not really not a win that you need for a summer movie,
Starting point is 01:27:28 but I think it's going to break you. I don't feel like people are rooting against Mandalorian and Grogu the way they are against Supergirl. And why do you think they're rooting against it? I think Gunn is kind of controversial for some people. I think he's got a lot of fans that, like, love them. But I think he's got a lot of people that are rooting for him to fail. I don't think that's inaccurate.
Starting point is 01:27:49 Is that what you're paying rocks? Yeah. Okay. Not just none, but. Yeah. That's a whole other culture that is a... Yeah, I'm with you, Mike. And again, it feeds to why I call out Roka Online because it doesn't need negativity
Starting point is 01:28:06 when there's not negativity there. So that's fair point. That's what I'm saying. I'm with you, Mike. I'm not trying to be negative. I'm... I reread them. I love Supergirl.
Starting point is 01:28:18 So let me have a... you guys this because what I've heard now I'm seeing a lot of negativity against Marvel and Doomsday but you guys probably think it's because they're saying the big thing is wow they had to go back to the two white guys that brought the
Starting point is 01:28:33 franchise out and they have to go I haven't seen any of that except the fact that people who's saying that when it was announced but after Cinemacon Yeah, yeah, who's no line for that trailer? People are saying that trailer was amazing. Yeah, even people that were skeptical about it. You're talking about the people
Starting point is 01:28:49 Yeah, like Coy. Coy, what? Coy liked it or didn't like it? Coy was super skeptical about Dooms Day. He was in front of bashing. And he saw the trailer and was like, I feel really good about this. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:29:00 Like that's, I haven't heard of single, since cinema kind of heard a single thing. There's still people that will write about, oh, this is going to be a cameo fest and I keep saying. No, it's not what I'm, okay. We just,
Starting point is 01:29:11 we see different things online. Okay. I just leave it at that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I really, really hope you're right. If Supergirl does well, I'll be so happy.
Starting point is 01:29:19 be I'm worried. All right. Let's say. All right. Next one. Armada, AYT. When will the edited Rambo 3
Starting point is 01:29:27 reaction come out? I've been putting them out on Mondays, so I'll probably put it out on Monday. Winston, but you know, the first one did okay. Second one eight shit.
Starting point is 01:29:35 So I'm going to try to, I might just finish the series. I got to figure something for both Winston and stuff to watch that people are going to watch. Parker Haller, Star Wars, Marvel.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Am I the only one who likes it when things just end? Take the business side out of it. Do you three ever want movies and franchises to have actual star arcs and endings and moving on to something else? Yes, however, if there are ways to tell the story, I'm always interested in learning more about it. I still think that there's somebody out there that can tell a good Terminator story. I still think there's that A24 version. I mention it every single time until I'm blue in the face.
Starting point is 01:30:13 So I guess like yes, if there's sometimes when, like Zoolander 2 could have just died after Zoolander 1 of them. and fine, but it was a shit movie that they made for the sequel. Maybe they could have done a better take of it, and it would have been worth it. So it's a case-by-case. All right. Samassius 5. Christian, what is your unbiased opinion on who is Roca's favorite Mike in his life?
Starting point is 01:30:35 Is it Kalinowski or Vogel? Have a great day. I think that Mike would even probably agree with me. It's got to be Vogel. Because Vogel brings, Vogel pretty much should have like unicorns and sunshine falling around everywhere. He's like, he's like,
Starting point is 01:30:50 he's this. like a happy he's this happy guy my wrong way no he's a happy he's a happy guy he really is it's like you ever see those instagram videos is just a half half happy doubt here's like he's just a great dude um mike joyce roxy thoughts on the scrubs revival i'm i love it i'm still loving it it is interesting though the crossover of how many people from one show or on another show i'm watching like rooster or with scrubs or shrinking with scrubs. But yeah,
Starting point is 01:31:28 I'm very intrigued by the storylines and I think that they're doing an excellent job with the revival. Okay. David F. Last scene of Starfighter, something being handed to a Paduan who says, Master Ray says, thank you
Starting point is 01:31:44 and made the force be with you. You never mentioned the mission is for her until that scene. Yeah, I think that's probably what going to do because i think that there's something that's um i think that that's what they're doing i think that they're setting up this adventure setting up this whole thing um to lead into the kenberg thing and you got to set up that she's around i think i think that he's i think that he's bringing the kid to ray i think so i don't know if mike's assessment of her not being in it works i think you might need you might need her in it she's the only one he's only july that would be really around right
Starting point is 01:32:20 I guess. All right. Matt Krugman. Mikey, did you catch Absolute Batman number 19 last week? Might have been one of my favorite issues so far. So much happening now and so much later. If that's the one where they introduced the Robbins,
Starting point is 01:32:34 I did read it. So yeah. That series is crushing it. Okay, let's see. The next one, sorry. I'm just going to set something up. Mr. Jay Anderson. Mike, most underrated Tom Cruise movie.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Personally, I think it's collateral or Last Samurai? I don't think I don't think collateral is underrated. So I would probably go more Last Samurai. Oblivion's really good too. Oblivion is really good. I did not like it when I saw it the first.
Starting point is 01:33:05 I only seen it once and I saw in the theater a long time ago. I haven't revisited it. So I got to see. We weren't asking you. That's fair. Buster Barnes ranked the box office predictions. Mando's Supergirl Masters of the Universe.
Starting point is 01:33:19 This is a great question. Hmm. So box office, what are the top three? Now again, in regards to overall numbers or when it comes to like, Oh, so tough. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:33:32 What's Master of the Universe budget? I think it's, I'm going to guess. I'm going to say, I'm going to say around 160. So they all have similar budgets. Do you want to know what I want to happen or do what I think will happen? I think what.
Starting point is 01:33:49 you want to happen is Supergirl does best, masters, does second best in Mandate is worst? No, I want Masters to do best. You want Masters to do better than Supergo? Because that's a, here's the thing. I guess people are new IP,
Starting point is 01:34:01 well, newer IP. No, no, it's not that. It's like, I don't care about Supergirl as a character. She's D.C.
Starting point is 01:34:08 But I don't, and I wish Supergirl was going to be more like Clayface, where it was like $50 million. Yeah. I, that's the only problem for me. Like, I love Clay,
Starting point is 01:34:17 I'm more excited for Clayface than I am Supergirl. You don't care about, about Supergirls as a character. I don't like the character. I just never got into the comics. I think a woman of Tomorrow is a great book. So for me, it's like, she's fine.
Starting point is 01:34:29 But I think that that's what's great about DC is there's so many characters that I don't have to be the target audience for this. Clayface. Not what you want, but what do you think? I think it's, I think it goes Supergirl, Masters of the Universe, Mando.
Starting point is 01:34:44 Roxy? When he goes, Mando, Masters of the Universe, Supergirl. I think it's Masters of the Universe. universe mando supergirl i think master university drives hit i think it's going to be a big hit uh hey mr cj mike what did you think about the bond game intro i think it looks great i think that the
Starting point is 01:35:04 they're going all in on this game man they really are uh samasius five how many super chasas is needed from mike and christ reveal a crazy story from their fraternity days six thousand beat roca this weekend i'll tell you one all right that's fair i got a fucking a plethora i'm sure you do Johnny B was blown away by a Japanese movie called exit 8 I haven't heard of it we did a trailer
Starting point is 01:35:27 reaction for rejects for it I haven't seen it but I heard that the trailer reaction was wild okay cool uh Thambone 2-27 I have a suggestion for Roxy cross season one and two also have any of you seen the documentary meal ticket have not seen the documentary and have you been recommend you've been recommended that before right bye Thambone oh okay perfect uh I doesn't I doesn't doesn't that night or love that I think he does. Nathan Drake, was the infamous 2006 Harlow,
Starting point is 01:35:55 the same guy as the Meathead, Frat House, Harlov? No, very different from what Mike. I don't know 2006 Harlov, so I can't say. That was just me. I went from being in a long-term, what is people fighting back now?
Starting point is 01:36:07 I went into a long-term relationship to deciding I was not going to do that, just to stand-up, and I dated a lot. I'll say that. Joey Pedrus, love the Wednesday show. Thank you, Joey. Nathan Drake, rank these.
Starting point is 01:36:20 Michael. What's the Wednesday show? well Wednesday show that's uh Kevin Smets comes in and we play games yeah
Starting point is 01:36:28 uh Nathan Drake rank these Michael Bohemian Rhapsody Rocket Man ooh well I've only one that's seen it um as far as quality goes
Starting point is 01:36:38 as far as movies what I like I'm gonna say Bohemian Rhapsody Rock and then Michael I never see yeah oh yeah no I'd have never seen all those I can't break him
Starting point is 01:36:50 okay Samassius Puck News is reporting that Joseph Kaczynski he will not return for Top Gun 3. What are your thoughts of true? That's a mistake. What?
Starting point is 01:36:58 That's a mistake. That's fucking ridiculous. How would you guys feel, though, if Tom Cruise directed it? He won't. He won't, but if he did, is the question. I'll say this. The only one I would say to direct it that I would go for it is McQuary. Oh.
Starting point is 01:37:14 Yeah. Because he's been a part of those, all of the Top Gun films with him and not the first one, but yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. It would be crazy if Ridley Scott did it. I don't think it would. I don't think it would work, but, you know, in honor of his brother. I would say, I'd say that's a problem.
Starting point is 01:37:31 But if Tom Cruise did it, Roxie, I'd be interested. That's insane to me that he's not coming back. Well, we don't know that. This is a rumor. Josh Joe, Joshua Gonzalez. I think he did it and I'll still see it. Okay, fair enough. Armada, A-Y-T.
Starting point is 01:37:45 Ted McGinley interview. Ted McGinley is shrinking. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, from married children. Oh, my God. My God, that's my favorite. You're like my mom. I've told this story a million times over. It's like, you know, when you get to L.A.,
Starting point is 01:38:01 you should really look up Sandra Bullock. You two would hit it off. Okay, Mom, I'll call her up. Ted McGinley. Ted McGilley, give me his number. I'll call him up. I'll see what he wants to do it. All the child allegations that was taken out due to legal constraints
Starting point is 01:38:17 related to prior settlement agreements. Someone at Universal discovered it after the fact costing the studio millions and reshoots. Pretty nuts. Yeah, pretty nuts. But yeah, that's, that's going to happen. Oh, God. What?
Starting point is 01:38:34 Nothing. Family stuff. Michael D. Ever done a reaction to Akira? No. 4K, but isn't it an anime? It is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:44 I'll never do. I tried to watch Akira. I can't get into it. Anime on this channel ever again. For what happened. 4K remasterably coming to IMAX next month for one weekend, a great film, and animation for it's time. I hear nothing great things. That's be great.
Starting point is 01:38:57 Jacob, Matthew, Casey. Mando Grogiel will significantly outperform Michael. You're crazy. You're crazy. I don't think that's true. That, you don't think that, right. You don't think Mando Gros will significantly outperforming. Roxy said something that I didn't even take into account
Starting point is 01:39:14 is the audience demographic that will go see this. Yeah, you just phrased it better than I did. No, you did. I thought I figured it terribly, but you phrased it much better. But I didn't, I did not think of that at all. I just, I just, I just, he just seems universal. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:34 Because as a kid, I had like, yeah. Objects was everything. But like you, Roxy saying that, I was like, oh, yeah, this movie's going to kill. I wish Jacob lived in, in New York because I would have had Jacob 12 steak dinners that there's no world with that happens. There's no world. There's no world. No world.
Starting point is 01:39:52 I mean, there's a, you know. Casey Grant. Anyone else still sneak food into the movies? Yes, every time. Yeah, it just depends. The food there is not great. I'm a popcorn guy, so I don't. 10 out of 10 times I take food into the movies.
Starting point is 01:40:07 I try to eat before. But, Roxy, what kind of food do you take in in? What do you got going in there? No. How do you take with you? And I get movie theater food, too, but I'll get, like, I'll grab a Clementine, I'll grab a bar, a little bag of nuts, like just a little snack. Just an orange, a little orange?
Starting point is 01:40:22 Yeah. Yeah, okay. Hey. Smallville freak. Spending my anniversary in New York. Awesome. What is your top recommendation for pizza in Manhattan? Do you also have a recommendation for Chinese?
Starting point is 01:40:33 Chinese, no. I need to find a good Chinese, but there's tons of them in Manhattan, and I need to find that out and spend an ongoing conversation. Lindystri in the village, Prince Street Pizza, also in the village. You can't really go wrong. There's a lot of really good pizza places in the village, but I would also recommend looking up some of the one-bite pizza reviews for the Manhattan's side of thing.
Starting point is 01:40:56 So there's tons. There's tons. You look at one by pizza. You ranked quite a few of them. But Lindustry, Prince Street are the two that I would definitely say. David Jardaya. Roxy, you never read my tea leaves. I'm so excited so excited for Supergirl. Me too. A lot of people are excited for it, for sure.
Starting point is 01:41:15 I'm just, no. My choice. Mike, the pit has the craziest fandom, right? Fucking insane. I don't even. They came out of the world. Woodwork in season two. Since you told me about it, I've been dating. I didn't put it on my list this week because I know it will be on there next week, but I love the pit. Oh, so good.
Starting point is 01:41:32 But just the people, the comments, I, I said, I did a tweet. I was like, I don't think there are certain people that should be able to watch adult television. They just, the grasping of it to me, like this, I'll say this one thing real quick. They were commenting on the fact in the last episode when they're all looking up at the sky watching the fireworks. Well, they shot that in Philadelphia, but all the Philadelphia stuff they shoot in the beginning of the season. So she said, so she took this comment that they just, the director said, like, we don't know how it's going to end here,
Starting point is 01:42:01 but you're just looking at the sky and you guys are all really sad. And then they were like, how they expect these actors to just imagine. And I was like, he's talking about the season not being finished written and they didn't deal with all the shit throughout the years. They don't know exact storylines. I go, what did you think there was going to be some CGI fire in the distance they're looking at and crying about? like the level of stupidity with some people.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Yeah. Unreal to me. Fair enough. Steve. Scuba. Hey, Rox. I'm not sure of this is for you, but the show,
Starting point is 01:42:32 the last samurai standing came out on Netflix, set during the issue registrations in 1800s, some of the best sword fighting ever seen. Great political intrigue, too. I think Roka was watching. I think so. Someone told me that they were, I can't remember.
Starting point is 01:42:47 Someone said they were right. Interesting. Steve, Stu. Yeah, thank you, Steve. All right. Next one. 28 Vasco, it wasn't the family that stopped the allegations being in the movie. It was for legal reasons from the 90s settlement. They filmed it for the movie.
Starting point is 01:43:00 Oh, okay. All right, fair enough. That's not in the movie. Jared, I don't know where I've been. But Netflix is going to have a Man on Fire series with Yaya Abdul 19 and also a four-part Lord of the Flies miniseries. There's four-part miniseries. The Lord of the Flies already aired in, it was made for the BBC.
Starting point is 01:43:20 And my daughter's very excited about that. So I'm very aware of it. And I'm also very aware of the man on fire series. I didn't love the movie. I liked it. And I, you know, I should go back and revisit.
Starting point is 01:43:31 I just remember at the end. What? Well, you know what it was? I remember really liking the movie. And then the end pissed me off because she was alive. And it wasn't, I was happy she was alive.
Starting point is 01:43:41 But I'm like, oh, so he really just murdered everybody and killed everybody because he thought that they killed her. And he basically just murdered all these people. They didn't even doing it. They didn't be kidnapped her. They didn't kill her.
Starting point is 01:43:53 They didn't kill her. He's a man on fire. He's fucking hot. But, you know, it's probably, that's, that I can say. Oh, come on. That's one of his best movies. It's, it's absolutely 100% a take that I would probably change my mind if I watch. It's like me not loving Luffy because he skipped out on the bill.
Starting point is 01:44:11 100,000%. To me, problem. A hundred problem. Man of fire. I'm excited for the TV show. I love Yaya Abdul. Nancy Dogg's sexy. I think Mortal Kombat needs to be as deadly as the Shaw Brothers Venoms film.
Starting point is 01:44:23 And Street Fighter needs good Jackie Chan level thoughts. Yes, you got to have those fights. Mike, did you see the trailer for Street Fighter? Let me tell you something, dude. So the two camps, I'm a Mortal Kombat. What's this smirk for? No, I love that. I love the trailer for Street Fighter.
Starting point is 01:44:39 So for me, I'm in two camps. I'm a Mortal Kombat guy. I like this, Delormor Moore. I did play Street Fighter, but, street fighter, the Raul Julia and Gian Claude Van Dan movie is one of my favorite movies of all time. It's not like the game. So I don't have a lot
Starting point is 01:44:56 going into stake. That trailer was probably the most fun trailer I've seen all year. I think it's going to be a dumb movie. But one of the best times at the theater, probably. That trailer hit every fucking button that needed to hit. The music was great. I think
Starting point is 01:45:13 everything in that thing looks awesome. I agree. Um, yeah. That, that, what his assessment, moral combat needs to be that when street fighters should be a Jackie Chan. Yeah. Like physics are fucked and it's awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:26 King of the Wicker people. Are you guys excited for the Resident Evil movie? I love the game, specifically the remakes and it's a series that deserves a proper film adaptation. I am excited and this is why I think this movie is going to do well. I'm not excited for the same reason that you are King of the Wicker people, but I do think there's going to be tons of people like yourself who are excited for that reason. I'm excited because of the director.
Starting point is 01:45:46 And I think that, there's going to be a ton of people that are excited because of that. I think that what he's done with Barbarian, I think what he's done obviously with weapons, and this is his follow-up. This is going to be a very successful movie and probably one of the more successful Resident Evil movies. Are you guys excited for it at all?
Starting point is 01:46:02 Sure. I like Cregor. I'm not a Resident Evil fan, but I like the director. So this would be like you. I couldn't got, I mean, I saw, I think maybe half the Milojovich films, but I, yeah, yeah. If it wasn't for Craigor, I wouldn't be watching. I wouldn't care.
Starting point is 01:46:20 I wouldn't care. Brad Bastian, which death would be most impactful in Doomsday, Thor? And it would probably happen. I will say none because... You think Thor is going to die in Doomsday? Yeah. Mike, do you? Roxy, I think a lot of people...
Starting point is 01:46:41 I think a lot of people will die, Roxy. And I think as this film... I said maybe... Secret Wars and he doesn't die in Doomsdale die in sequel. And I think like this film is proving, death doesn't mean anything in the MCU. Now let me ask you guys this real quick. Because I've heard this and this is not confirmed, but I don't know if the people of Sinicom can confirm this. The Rousseau's have, I'm trying to find it. It said R.D.J. is back. He is Dr. Doom. He is not a variant. He is not pretend to be Tony Stark. There's no plot point that he's using Tony Stark's
Starting point is 01:47:13 face. Essentially, hey, he's the best actor we've ever worked with. He's the hot, he got him after the Oscar. We just said, let's go with this and put him in as a separate actor playing this other character. Have you guys heard this at all? What I heard was that they are not going to address it in the first movie. That's all I heard. I did not hear that the following year. I heard another person said they think the roosters are playing coy, but yeah. No, what I think that they said, you don't address that. you've got to address it. And you just let it be hazed. There's 50 million actors out there, but we wanted to work with him
Starting point is 01:47:49 again in this new role. How does Peter Parker see that and not go what in the world? How do you not do that? Well, there's a lot of theories also that he's not going to demask the entire first movie. That I've heard. My scoops thus far when it's come to Doomsday have been accurate. I talked about the three earths. Talked about these things.
Starting point is 01:48:07 I talked about all this other stuff, the Hulk stuff, these things. What I have heard is that he is you barely see his face in the first movie at all okay there would be nothing to explain right so let's say it's all scarred up like yeah it's why that I don't know my choice beat broke there you go Mike uh Paul Hitchcock we don't see any mandos in the Star Wars and Grogu is a mandorian appearance season three uh so he's likely off with the mandos during you don't see any mandos in the oh oh we don't see anything say where Grogo is you don't see any of the other
Starting point is 01:48:42 equal trilogy and grogou is a mandoloreans apprentice so he's likely off with the mandoloreans during the first order train that it's very it's very well possible but they have to explain it where's a soca soca's got to be dead right because she's because she's a force ghost when um when ray is in that throne room ray who shoot i don't i wish you would have just cute me up for that rob job do you guys think walk the line is one of the better biopics i feel like it gets forgotten a lot i do feel like it's pretty damn good really good Love that movie. Yeah, it's really good.
Starting point is 01:49:15 Do you guys, when it comes to your biopics, do you prefer a more hyper-realized, hey, we're going to twist the truth, but make a great movie? My example. Yeah. And one of my favorites is, do you ever see Dragon the Bruce Lee story?
Starting point is 01:49:32 All right. Yes, I have. Oh, my God. And again, very fictionalized accounts of what had happened, but such a good movie. Totally. I mean, I don't necessarily if you know it, biopic, but it's more historical drama that is very not accurate.
Starting point is 01:49:47 It's one of my favorite movies of all time is Braveheart. And that's definitely not. I love watching documentaries about people. So, like, this week I watched the Red Dot Chili Peppers documentary, and I also watched the Noa Khan documentary. That's where I go for, like, my real takes. So I don't mind when biopics do some entertaining. Yeah, me either.
Starting point is 01:50:12 Joey Pedro, sorry, I met the Tuesday show. This girl, all right, thank you, Joey. Thank you, Joey. I was wondering, like, kind of weird comments. Roxy, do you know what my ego's thought where that happened? It's like, yeah, we do kick ass. I was like, oh, wait, we don't do Wednesday. That was my thought was like, yeah, we do kick ass.
Starting point is 01:50:27 I was like, you said that. I was just like, oh, that's not us. It was like the most backhanded. Like, all right. And Joey's normally, Joey's not like that. Johnny Petitza, is Gunn's going to have the four Robbins in his DC? Would you want to see a full? bat family on the big screen me no i don't care about that i don't know how my feel about it no i'm of two
Starting point is 01:50:48 minds one because like you don't want to see the full bat family on the big screen roxy hold on hold on when they announced brave and the bold and it was going to be damien i was like that's a good entry point to have him because it tells stories that you can do it i would always love to see dick grason be the first robin but if we're starting at dick grason as the first robin it's going to be 20 years of films before you can do all of the Robbins. Yeah. So I thought Braving the Bowl was a great way to have him there as his son. And you could have Nightwing established as Dick Grayson. I don't know if you do Tim Drake and Jason Todd at this point.
Starting point is 01:51:26 I guess the question to my, Johnny, to your question is when? Yeah. Do I ever want to see the full bat family on the big screen? Yeah. That'd be set up well, right? I guess that's said. Yeah. Dr. Barnes.
Starting point is 01:51:36 I sometimes think we put too much stock in social media buzz. If it was the end all, B, all sonic three would have made. made one billion and Mufasa would have ate dirt. I, you're not, I understand what you're saying. So was there a lot of buzz for Sonic 3? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:52 Sonic 3 people were super high, and I remember, there was a lot of buzz for it. I had this whole debate with Luke. Luke thought it was going to surpass Mufasa. I said, stop. I said,
Starting point is 01:52:02 stop counting out the Lion King. It is, it is a bigger overall thing, and it destroyed it. But the better movie is Sonic 3 by, by massive. Um, okay, Scott B, 236. First live show I've been able to catch in a minute.
Starting point is 01:52:17 Christian, how's the little ones I doing? Support for Moxie. Her eye is much better. Yeah, she's good. She actually, she went, um, she went three for three in softball yesterday. She cracked her really good one. I'll send you the video, Rox. It was, uh, it was a good.
Starting point is 01:52:29 Yeah. Joy. Support for Moxie. Yep. Uh, I can see Clayface absolutely smashing at the box office around Halloween. Same. It's the trailer apparently comes out tomorrow. What other DC villains should get this treatment?
Starting point is 01:52:41 Mike? Swamping? I think this is a Playface should be a one out. Like I think the guy came in with the great pitch. They said, let's go with it. I think you got to focus on your heroes, but Clayface, but if you do
Starting point is 01:52:55 do them, keep doing these $40 million, man. Yes, yes. Oh, God, you're going to have a hit no matter what. I'm with you. Um, wait, Christian, go back. Why did you say that about tomorrow? I heard, where did I see it? I heard somewhere that there was a trailer.
Starting point is 01:53:11 trailer is dropping soon. I heard it's coming out tomorrow. You heard it's coming tomorrow. What I heard. I don't know. That's not true. Armada, A-Y-T, Clayface trailer tomorrow. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:53:24 Okay, he says maybe. Also, Ted McGinley. Great, call them up. Space Cowboy Chris, who's an artist you would like to see a biopic on? I would love to see one on the Canadian rock band Rush. Excited for the upcoming four-part Beatles biopic. Roxy, hope you're feeling better.
Starting point is 01:53:40 Love you guys. I'm not. Oh, no, you're not feeling better. It's just, it's going to be a month of this. Okay. Guys, on my, on my horse, please go over to my social and be supporting my, uh, egg freezing journey. It means a lot to me. Appreciate you guys.
Starting point is 01:54:01 Please. I'm sick as hell because of it. Um, Arrowsmith. My dad would be in it. Yeah. Great. Arrow Smith. although he's barely in the book
Starting point is 01:54:12 I would love to see I guess like Dave Grohl but kind of like Nirvana to food fighters like a yeah that's a good one not like necessarily just him but or like a biopic on grunge music
Starting point is 01:54:30 oh yeah when they were all coming out in 90s too would be pretty great um Harvest cake Christian the best Chinese food is supposed to be in Flushing Queens there's tons of them I just need the exact once just yelp the best dumpling noodle places. I need, when my wife works is that she got to get an actual recommendation
Starting point is 01:54:45 or she can go anywhere. Bobby, I'll say it more often than not. My people show up and show out for our celebrities. Despite their controversies, it's a deeper conversation as to why, but it tends to be the case. Totally. Fair. I mean, we saw, I think we're going to see with Michael
Starting point is 01:55:01 and we saw it with Kanye. Yeah, right. Dennis Hoffman. Did Amazon showcase Voltron? No interest, but weird. Oh, I don't know. I know they did. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 01:55:14 Was Amazon at Santa Con? Yeah. They had a big presentation with Bond and everything else that they did and He Man and tons of stuff. And they're having a hell of a year with Project Hill Mary. The Hamboan 27, the new Mall series is pretty good.
Starting point is 01:55:28 The new Mall series is... And we want you to know, T, Hambone. What I say, Fambone? That's what you and I always do with the handle. Mike, have you watched it yet, Mall? I'm not. You should. You like it.
Starting point is 01:55:42 It's your kind of show. That's people tell me. You don't like it. Big Bang, O-T-4. Is Michael going to get to a billion? I don't think so. Mike doesn't think so,
Starting point is 01:55:51 and I don't think so. Yeah. Yeah. Armada. But I did take your over. I do think it's going to get 100. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. Again,
Starting point is 01:55:59 I would be more surprised if it bombed than if it made a billion. Armada. So no one got haircuts at cinema contact after man showed up. Nope. Space Cowboys, Chris, how different do you think Michael and Bohemian Rhapsie would have been? Both singers were still alive at the time of their films being made.
Starting point is 01:56:18 Oh, I mean, significantly. Significially. Yeah. I think. That doesn't really happen too often. They wait until minus like Bruce and Bob Dylan, I guess. Can 6-721. Hello there.
Starting point is 01:56:29 Hello there to you. Big Bang with you, for should Star Wars recast the OG trilogy trio? I think so, if they're going to use them in other stories. You do? Wow. Were you going to do deep fake him? I don't know, but what did you think about Alden Aaron Reich? Oh, no, no, I think he means moving forward, like in the, and not, maybe not in the back.
Starting point is 01:56:54 No, but it wasn't, it wasn't that they recast Han Solo. I like Aldenarach as an actor. He was the wrong choice for Han Solo. He does not carry that kind of swagger that, yeah, that Han Solo has. He just doesn't. And I hate the stupid argument. of well he grew into that it wasn't it wasn't like him no
Starting point is 01:57:12 it was one year before we saw him in Star Wars no he hated that argument I was like oh he did he just no because everybody you have that swagger because Donald Glover did what the Han Solo he did what the Han Solo actor had to do
Starting point is 01:57:28 you had to do it's what it's what like Carl Urban had to do in Star Trek yes he embodied the character but didn't wasn't mimicking him. Yeah. You had to. 100%. So I think you can, I do think that you can, that you can recast. And I think you might have to, if you're going to be telling more stories, maybe you're not.
Starting point is 01:57:50 I don't know. Maddie Bay. Whoa, Maddie. Thank you. Look at that. That's huge. Big support. That's, that's massive support, Maddie. Any of you seen the Jackson's American Dream miniseries? Apparently that, I haven't, but apparently people are saying that from my review of it, It seems like I'm describing this. Amazing, fantastic cast. Jason Weaver is young Michael, Angela Bassett, Billy D. Williams, Holly Robinson, Pete, Vanessa Williams. I mean, that is a hell of a line.
Starting point is 01:58:18 Yeah, no, I ever see that? No. I did not. But, Mandy, it was really, really generous. Thank you so much. Jared, LaBomba is one of my favorites. Cry like a baby at the end. That is a good one.
Starting point is 01:58:29 Richard. Richie. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that one, I remember I was coming back from some vacation with my dad in New York somewhere and we stopped with my with my brothers and he stopped and he said, let's go see LaBamba. I was, I was like, I was a great movie, but I was, but I was like, but I was like, really from probably 13 or 14, if that, no, younger than that. And super, super, super happy, you know, vacation coming and go, oh, the hell did I just watch. Big Bang, OTC4. From what
Starting point is 01:58:56 you've seen, you think critics being harsh, it's so hard to say. I think critics are reviewing the fact that it is glossy and safe. And, you know, it's, yeah, it's, this is a difficult one. Space,
Starting point is 01:59:14 Cowboys, Chris, underrated biopic, get on up with Chadwick Boseman is as James Brown. It's a good one. It does a great job at Balances music and personal life
Starting point is 01:59:22 without shying away from his dark side. I agree with you. Great example. Same. Great example. Wiley. I don't really want to support this Jackson movie. I have a problem with him since the Finding Neverland Doc.
Starting point is 01:59:33 But yet have I, but yet I have to see it because I'm in the music industry and everyone's going to talk about it. You know, Roxy, what was it that? Because I remember when a Collider Live, you know, it was a big controversial subject when we covered that whole documentary and everything too. And then there was like stuff that came out like you said afterwards that that I don't have been or those guys. I don't know. It was like the two of them had such like factually or like this time, this plate, stories. And then there was like things that came out about why they couldn't have been wearing. they were when they said they were like there was other receipts.
Starting point is 02:00:07 So I don't know. I don't want to call them. I don't know. Is it still accessible on HBO Max? Because that would be, that would say a lot. Finding Neverland? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:17 I don't know. It was an HBO doc. I wonder if it's still accessible. Yeah, you guys let us know. I wonder. But I also Wiley don't think that you need to see it because people are talking about it. No, he's in the music industry. So he wants to see it because he's in the music.
Starting point is 02:00:31 I get it. but if you really don't want it, then don't. Yeah, that's true, too. Ron H, a guilty pleasure of mine is Balls of Fury. That is, that movie, I remember that is another one with Dennis. It's Winona Ryder, isn't it? And Dennis Quaid? Bals of Fury?
Starting point is 02:00:49 Yeah, isn't that, isn't that Will Ferrell? It balls of fire, I'm thinking of. No, mine. Yeah. Every different movie. Very different movie. I'm thinking Christopher walking in like a food man chew playing ping pong and you're like Dennis Quay. I'm like Dennis Quaid.
Starting point is 02:01:09 It's true. There I said. I don't care. Yes, you're thinking of great balls of fire. That is Dennis Quaid. Very different. Luke said leaving Neverland with the music biopics. Luke said leaving Neverland 2019 doc is no longer available on HBO Max due to legal disputes regarding a non-disparagement cause.
Starting point is 02:01:26 That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Oof. Okay. Space Cowboys. Chris, love you guys. Keep up the great work. Thank you, Space Cablin. Aidan, loving the show today. Thank you, Eden. Pretty sure the entire multiverse will collapse, just like time runs out comic,
Starting point is 02:01:41 about seven to ten survivors of doom. I agree with you, a thousand percent. That's what Mike was saying before about it. It doesn't matter anymore because if they all die, they keep coming back. I think that they're going to solve that problem. I think that's the whole point of this. I think you're going to solve it. Until they don't solve it. And then they want people back. Casey Granite, you ever tried to buy chocolate? Shit is expensive, though. I haven't. No, people keep telling me about it. I want to try. I everyone tells me about it everyone and I'm such a chocolate guy but I don't know there's just something about like as a green paste isn't it like yeah something like that's really really good okay I don't know man Paul Hitchcock so we know roxy's freezing your eggs Mike are you freezing all your use Kleenex oh
Starting point is 02:02:18 Speaking of shooting, would you want to see DC's Hitman adapted? Yeah, I don't even know. There's no different. They did the hitman. I believe it was a vertigo offprint of DC, but I know people love that character, but it's not, again, just not for me.
Starting point is 02:02:38 T. Hambone, the new mall series is pretty good. Thank you, T. Hambone. He said that again. Big Bang, O2.4. Non-Genzy adults, just have low interest in films. I mean, they have more interest in scrolling and stuff. But what do you mean non-Genzy? I think he means Genzy adults have low interest. Oh. Right? I don't know. No, I mean, I don't know. Not sure. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:03:06 Johnny B. Clayface movie before Batman in New DCU feels weird. I don't know that. I don't know if it feels weird because if you set him up in this kind of horror film and then down the line, you introduce him, depending on what the tone I mean, what I like about this is the fact every time you get a Batman villain and a movie, the movie's got to be his origin. So half the movie is the villain's origin. So this, you got the origin out of the way.
Starting point is 02:03:28 Yeah. And then they show up and they're at it. Dancing Dog 60, ditch Twitter. It's time wasteer. So I don't disagree with you. I hate it. But I have been posting, like now that I'm posting, I post a lot of these different shorts and stuff on Instagram. I've been started posting them on Twitter now too. I used to love Twitter so much. such a bummer.
Starting point is 02:03:47 Yeah. I do too, but I found a way to pivot. I asked some questions about video games. Yeah. And all my algorithm is this Starfield video game, and everyone is awesome. Oh, that's cool. I'm getting like 10, 24 hours a day. And it's just, hey, everyone's showing off their spaceships.
Starting point is 02:04:03 I love it. Rodby, have you seen Mall episode six loving this show? Yeah, my reaction is coming out right after this show is over. Slugorama. Does Rotten Tomato Factor in that there are a few duplicate rotten reviews for Michael? Bibbs appears twice and a couple others that are negative. Oh, that's interesting. And the answer is probably, yeah, it would. Something that's got to be fixed.
Starting point is 02:04:22 All right. So we have one, two, three, four left, five left, but they're at 102. What's the, what do we got to get to? You got to get to 112 to be beating rocca, so 10 more. Come on now. Nathan's great. Rockie said last week that Machine Gun Kelly is clearly laying pipe in the bedroom. Mike responded by saying that bean pole, let's tell me. That's funny.
Starting point is 02:04:44 Samassius. Roxy, if you watched, what did you think of WrestleMania? Did you watch WrestleMania? No. No. Go Pell. Only Cali Parts. Yes. Winona Ryder as the 13-year-old cousin. Yeah, yes, she was. I thought so.
Starting point is 02:04:56 I thought so. Thank you, Go-Pel. Space Cowboys, Chris, not a biopic, but a great doc I'd recommend this. I am Heath Ledger. It's filled with interviews from friends and family of Ledger, while also filled with footage Ledger filmed himself in his life. That sounds really, and the other one that was really good was Val. It was a really good one, too. Oh, it's on my save watch list.
Starting point is 02:05:16 I want to watch that. Ron H. Is Beerfest 2006 a sports film? Go Canada. I've never seen it, but I would say probably yes. Yeah, I would say so. Yeah. Any update on the soap, Mike, Discord doing a poll.
Starting point is 02:05:30 Michael D. Yeah, you're supposed to do. You promise people stuff. Hold on. Let's stop this nonsense right now. I said once I'm like either on a vacation or somewhere where I'm at a nice hotel with a nice bathroom. My bathroom sucks.
Starting point is 02:05:42 It's boring. I don't think people care about your bathroom sucking. I do, Roxy, because this is something video that's going to be out there forever. So, yes, if I'm taking a bath, because look at this fucking guy's shower. Blah, blah, blah. No.
Starting point is 02:05:55 This is Jay Anderson. After they kill off everyone in Doomsday and Secret Wars, how long until they bring back those characters back from the dead? Mike's going to say, and you fucking got it, my friend. I got it. Ten years, and they'll be tried a couple different movies, and it didn't work.
Starting point is 02:06:10 So got to bring Chris Evansworth back. It's Thor. Here he is, but he's God Thor. Not the same Thor. Yeah. All right. Look at Logan. Look at for Hugh Jackman. PLD.
Starting point is 02:06:21 If we beat Roca, if we beat Roca, look at him. If we beat Roca, will Mike watch Darth Mall? Sure. All right. So next week, you got to give up. You got to watch episodes. What's Roca's number again? 11.
Starting point is 02:06:36 And we're almost there. So, Jared, have any of you watch something very bad is going to happen? It's a Netflix series. No, Rox? No, I've heard of it, though. Okay, no. It was number one for a minute. Is it worth my time, Jared?
Starting point is 02:06:51 I guess so. I guess so. Last one for now. Go, pal. I love beer fest. Okay, people do like that movie for people who've seen it. All right. It's a great movie.
Starting point is 02:07:00 Roxie, as we see if there's anything else that comes in, where can the good people? Right now, I'm on my Instagram and my TikTok. They're pulled up. Go there. Take my two most recent videos. Like them, save them, comment on them if you give a shit about me. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 02:07:20 It's free for you to do. And it helps my egg freezing journey. Right now, I'm being sponsored for one round. I'm hoping to have another round of sponsorship. Trust me, you are helping me more than you know. Go do it right now. Please thank you. Mike, Kalinowski.
Starting point is 02:07:36 Well, there's a lot going on in my life. You don't need to stall because you're close. Hold on. I'm just going to say that like, you find me. me at Twitter. I'm trying to get better. Like, as I hear you when you say about Twitter, and I know there's times I waste so much time arguing about stupid shit. I'm not, I like Twitter, like Roxy had said. I love it because it allows it. I feel it's more interactive and, you know, so I'm going to try and be less negative and just focus on like the cool things
Starting point is 02:08:02 like Starfield, which is awesome. Okay. Yeah. I love that Starfield. It's fucking great, man. All right. Well, you've beaten Rocha today. You're at 1113. So, Roxy, you got to watch an episode of One Piece. And maybe two, depending if we win the week. Right. Mike, you got to watch two episodes of mall. I can do that. So let's say, Christian, thank you for your health goals. Thank you, yes, boy.
Starting point is 02:08:24 It pushes me to make better health options. I love that. Roxy, thank you for your hard work. It pushes me to get up and be productive. Yo, Mike, any BBL in your spank bank? I love how you went such a right turn there. Not only did yes, I send this in, but if you guys saw them. Wow.
Starting point is 02:08:44 Easy, easy, kid, easy. You're all right? What the fuck happened there? You're okay? Drink some water. Start talking about BBL, and the next thing you know,
Starting point is 02:08:53 she's spitting up all with us. Choking. What the hell's going on? Uh-oh. Spit take. All right. You know, why don't you think about that? What are we doing?
Starting point is 02:09:02 Oh, what's the question? Ask me the question. What is that? You just said, oh, do you have any BBL in your Spang-Pank? I'll tell you this. What is BBL? Brazilian butt lift.
Starting point is 02:09:11 Come on now. Jesus Christ. Of course you knew that. That's not a. porn thing dickhead that's just a thing in life okay you know what i'm saying everybody knows that right go ahead rokey wrote this in in the comments a while i started dying laughing oh and then there you go and then sent this in i'm so grateful for you yes boy so hold on i hold on yeah you have i got to ask you to that i don't it's in the where i work and the amount of tourism that is there it is there all i'll be
Starting point is 02:09:42 I'll be sitting there trying to do a show with a dinosaur, and I'll see something off to the side. All right, next episode, remind me to tell the story of what happened when I saw a BBL that came up to watch the show when I was doing the show, and I'll tell what happened. I'm guessing you guys haven't seen the Temptations biopic from 94, classic movie for a certain demographic. Kanye is beyond trash my eyes.
Starting point is 02:10:01 All right, fair enough. PLD, no, any haven't seen temptations movie. POD beat Roka. They did. There are 120. Another question is, can they win the week? Aidan, they will cherry pick elements to read. boot post secret wars new cap iron
Starting point is 02:10:14 man hulk same spider man task before wolverine very much possibility we're gonna see how it's gonna work yes roxy it's worth your time check it out it's a panned off i don't know what was suggested but what was the suggestion i forgot forgot what it was are you guys broken lizard
Starting point is 02:10:30 fans go i am not i'm not you know that it's a super uh no you shouldn't say that as people i've met them and they're very nice people i don't even know if it is a band it's a comedic comedy group The new trailer that just came out Super Super Super Strait
Starting point is 02:10:45 Oh oh oh I never got I never got into beer fest And super troopers and I just never got into those movies But they're they're great guys But I just don't like the stuff My All Manor comic Hey Christian hey all Christian I love your death metal voice
Starting point is 02:10:58 Sounds awesome when I was in my car Listening to the show Oh do Oh do 907 The Coyote versus Acme trailer Released is tomorrow Looks great from the Tiesers
Starting point is 02:11:11 I'm so glad the movie was saved. I think that movie's going to do better. Do you do well, actually. Samacius, Roka Loss, time to reveal a frat story now. That wasn't what the deal. Mike said that. Yeah, he said 6,000. No, Mike said that.
Starting point is 02:11:25 He said he would give one or save it for next week. Well, I got three different things. I did mall. I did this. These don't all get together. New mall, you can do one next week. Robbie, Dubai, chocolate is mainly made out of pistachio cream.
Starting point is 02:11:37 It's really good. First, I'm hearing of this today. Really? Wow. Yeah. Bobby, has any? Anyone seen the Super Troopers trailer? No, Luke put it on the thing, and I said, if we get to it, we didn't.
Starting point is 02:11:46 Joey Pedger's, respect for Mike for the Starfield love. He loves it. You got it, buddy. Evil Dead Burn trailer reaction. Is that just come out, Armada? No, no. I'm not sure. And Michael D.
Starting point is 02:11:56 Support for BBLs everywhere. There you go, Michael D. So, yeah. All right. What's up? The picture. Oh, I saw it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:10 Michael D. Can you give me a favor for next? time can you put can you do one as my mike as uh modoc that would be great oh christ it'd be great all right guys thank you so much for being here um fun show today 2121 is now the number that everyone has a mike and roxy back in the leaderboard no matter what roga does just can't swat them off i got to i got do the show by myself let me do the show by myself i beat roxy but but not today so make sure you uh click like comment subscribe do all that and more i appreciate you and we'll see on the flip side.
Starting point is 02:12:42 Did you shit, man?

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